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Assault on Democracy: The Legal, Ethical & Spiritual Implications of America’s Democratic Crisis (Part 2) · Deep Transformation

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  Dear,
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  hi,
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  Dupuy.
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  could
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  you
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  please
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  help
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  us
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  by
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  that
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  really
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  us
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  get
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  out.
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  We
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  really
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  believe
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  in
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  what
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  we're
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  doing
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  and
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  we're
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  really
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  praying
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  and
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  hoping
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  this
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  is
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  helping
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  people
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  and
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  being
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  part
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  of
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  the
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  solution.
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  So
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  if
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  you
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  could
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  do
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  that,
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  it
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  would
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  be
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  greatly
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  appreciated
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  by
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  Roger,
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  myself
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  and
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  our
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  team.
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  God
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  bless.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  part
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  two
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  of
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  this
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  fascinating
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  conversation
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  with
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  our
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  friend
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  and
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  colleague
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  Mark
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  Fischer.
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  In
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  part
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  two,
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  we
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  continue
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  to
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  explore
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  what
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  it
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  is
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  that
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  is
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  threatening
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  our
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  institutions
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  and
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  democracy
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  itself
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  and
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  how
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  to
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  resist
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  tyranny
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  in
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  a
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  way
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  that
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  we
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  become
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  part
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  of
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  the
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  solution
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  and
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  not
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  add
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  to
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  the
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  crisis.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Deep
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  Transformation,
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  Self,
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  Society,
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  Spirit,
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  Life
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  Enhancing,
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  Paradigm
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  Rattling
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  Conversations
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  with
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  Cutting
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  ed
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  contemplatives
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  and
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  activists
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  Well,
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  I
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  just
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  want
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  to
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  say
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  that
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  this
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  attack
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  on
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  our
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  great
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  universities,
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  Columbia,
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  Harvard,
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  is
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  part
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  of
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  the
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  fascist
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  playbook.
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  It's
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  very
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  anti
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  intellectual
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  and
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  that
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  that
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  goes
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  for
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  Stalin
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  and
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  you
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  know,
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  allegedly
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  left
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  wing
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  types
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  of
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  totalitarianism.
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  But
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  they
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  don't
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  want,
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  and
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  I
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  know
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  professors,
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  I
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  have
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  quite
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  a
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  few
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  friends
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  who
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  are
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  actually
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  scared.
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  They
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  watch
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  what
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  they
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  say
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  because
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  if
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  they
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  step
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  over
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  the
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  line,
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  they
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  might
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  get
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  reported,
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  you
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  know,
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  by
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  the
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  students.
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  And
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  that's
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  attacking
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  Harvard.
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  Right.
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  That's
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  probably
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  the
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  most
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  famous
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  symbolic
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  symbol
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  of
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  higher
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  education
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  maybe
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  in
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  the
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  world.
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  And
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  to
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  directly
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  try
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  to
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  put
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  them
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  out
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  of
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  business.
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  Oh,
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  dei,
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  right.
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  Anti
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  Semitism
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  with
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  a,
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  with
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  the
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  excuses.
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  Yeah.
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  Thank
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  you
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  both
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  for
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  bringing
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  this
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  up
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  because
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  I
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  had
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  not
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  appreciated
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  until
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  now
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  that
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  there
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  was
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  a
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  deeper
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  animus
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  or
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  animosity
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  here
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  that
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  was
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  actually
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  in
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  part
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  at
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  least
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  based
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  on
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  a
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  perception
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  of
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  rigorous
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  intellectual
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  thinking
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  as
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  being
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  a
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  threat
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  to
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  the
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  values
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  of
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  what
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  is
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  essentially
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  a
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  mythic,
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  largely
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  a
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  mythic
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  or
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  mythocentric
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  worldview
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  and
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  value
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  system
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  based
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  on
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  fundamental
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  Christian
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  perspective.
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  Just
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  as
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  an
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  example,
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  Roger,
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  to
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  bring
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  home
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  your
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  point
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  that
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  you
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  just
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  said,
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  the
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  Smithsonian
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  has
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  had
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  exhibits
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  that
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  have
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  explained
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  how
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  that
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  race
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  is
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  just
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  a
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  social
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  construction
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  and
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  that,
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  you
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  know,
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  that
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  is
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  not
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  genetically
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  based
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  truth.
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  And
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  they
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  are
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  whitewashing
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  this
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  because
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  it
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  doesn't
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  fit
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  into
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  the
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  dogma
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  of
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  the
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  farm,
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  the
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  dogma
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  rhetoric,
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  that
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  there
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  are
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  inherent
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  characteristics
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  that
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  make
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  it
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  so
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  that
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  some
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  folks
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  are
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  more
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  successful
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  than
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  others,
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  that
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  there
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  are
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  inherent
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  characteristics
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  that
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  define
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  people's
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  capabilities.
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  And
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  so
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  instead
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  of
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  the
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  seeing,
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  you
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  know,
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  instead
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  of
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  transcending
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  that
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  there
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  is
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  only
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  one
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  race.
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  Right.
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  That
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  they're
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  actually
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  trying
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  to
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  create
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  a
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  hierarchy
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  of
• 3:33
  capabilities,
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  which
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  has
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  been
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  debunked
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  by
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  science.
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  Yeah.
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  Mark,
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  let
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  me
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  ask
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  you
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  about
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  this,
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  because
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  this
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  is
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  very.
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  I've
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  never
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  understood
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  this.
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  Race
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  is
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  purely
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  a
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  social
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  construction.
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  For
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  me,
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  it's
• 3:47
  up
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  there
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  with.
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  Sex
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  is
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  purely
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  a
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  social
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  construction.
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  It's
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  like
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  there
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  are
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  genetic
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  differences
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  between
• 3:54
  races.
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  There
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  are,
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  but
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  that
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  doesn't
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  mean.
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  Mean
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  there
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  are
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  different
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  capabilities.
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  Right.
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  Or
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  capacities.
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  Gender
• 4:01
  is
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  choice.
• 4:02
  It's
• 4:03
  not
• 4:03
  biological.
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  Well,
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  so,
• 4:05
  I
• 4:05
  mean,
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  to
• 4:05
  an
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  extent.
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  Right,
• 4:06
  Roger
• 4:07
  that.
• 4:07
  There
• 4:07
  are
• 4:08
  certainly
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  different
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  genetic
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  aspects
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  of
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  beings,
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  but
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  there's
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  one
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  human
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  race
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  that
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  we
• 4:17
  are
• 4:17
  and
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  there
• 4:18
  aren't
• 4:18
  these.
• 4:19
  You
• 4:20
  know,
• 4:20
  Gregory
• 4:20
  Thomas,
• 4:21
  we
• 4:21
  were
• 4:22
  at
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  conference
• 4:22
  together,
• 4:23
  the
• 4:23
  three
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  us,
• 4:24
  at,
• 4:25
  I
• 4:25
  believe,
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  same
• 4:25
  table
• 4:26
  where
• 4:27
  Gregory
• 4:27
  was
• 4:27
  kind
• 4:28
  of
• 4:28
  talking
• 4:28
  about
• 4:28
  how
• 4:29
  people
• 4:30
  would
• 4:30
  try
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  define
• 4:31
  African
• 4:31
  and,
• 4:32
  you
• 4:32
  know,
• 4:33
  African
• 4:33
  Americans
• 4:34
  in
• 4:34
  this
• 4:35
  way
• 4:35
  where
• 4:35
  their
• 4:36
  hair
• 4:36
  was
• 4:37
  different,
• 4:38
  their
• 4:39
  bodies
• 4:40
  were
• 4:40
  different,
• 4:41
  their
• 4:41
  brains
• 4:42
  were
• 4:42
  different.
• 4:42
  There
• 4:42
  were,
• 4:43
  you
• 4:43
  know,
• 4:44
  early
• 4:44
  scientists
• 4:45
  that
• 4:45
  were
• 4:45
  trying
• 4:45
  to
• 4:46
  show
• 4:46
  how
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  brain
• 4:48
  of
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  African
• 4:49
  American
• 4:49
  was
• 4:49
  more
• 4:50
  like
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  monkey
• 4:50
  than
• 4:51
  it
• 4:51
  was
• 4:52
  other
• 4:52
  human
• 4:52
  beings.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:53
  those
• 4:53
  things
• 4:54
  are
• 4:54
  just
• 4:54
  not
• 4:55
  the
• 4:55
  case.
• 4:55
  And
• 4:55
  so
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  rhetoric,
• 4:57
  I
• 4:57
  guess
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  want
• 4:58
  to
• 4:58
  clarify
• 4:59
  that
• 4:59
  yes,
• 4:59
  there
• 5:00
  are
• 5:00
  genetic
• 5:02
  differences,
• 5:03
  but
• 5:04
  they
• 5:04
  aren't
• 5:04
  the
• 5:05
  kind
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  define
• 5:06
  us
• 5:06
  in
• 5:06
  terms
• 5:06
  of
• 5:07
  our
• 5:07
  capabilities.
• 5:08
  They
• 5:08
  don't
• 5:09
  make
• 5:09
  us
• 5:09
  not
• 5:10
  one,
• 5:11
  you
• 5:11
  know,
• 5:11
  human
• 5:12
  race.
• 5:12
  They're
• 5:13
  not
• 5:13
  that
• 5:13
  kind
• 5:14
  of
• 5:14
  defining
• 5:15
  that
• 5:15
  they
• 5:16
  are
• 5:16
  trying
• 5:16
  to.
• 5:17
  To
• 5:17
  make
• 5:17
  it
• 5:17
  out
• 5:18
  to
• 5:18
  be,
• 5:18
  if
• 5:18
  that
• 5:18
  makes
• 5:19
  more
• 5:19
  sense.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:20
  inbreeding
• 5:21
  is
• 5:21
  not
• 5:21
  a
• 5:22
  good
• 5:22
  thing.
• 5:22
  I
• 5:23
  think
• 5:23
  one
• 5:23
  of
• 5:23
  the
• 5:23
  good
• 5:23
  things
• 5:23
  about
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  United
• 5:24
  States
• 5:24
  were
• 5:24
  a
• 5:25
  bunch
• 5:25
  of
• 5:25
  mutts.
• 5:26
  You
• 5:26
  know,
• 5:26
  when
• 5:26
  you
• 5:26
  get
• 5:26
  dogs,
• 5:27
  they're
• 5:27
  too
• 5:27
  pure
• 5:28
  bred.
• 5:28
  They
• 5:28
  just
• 5:29
  have
• 5:29
  all
• 5:29
  these
• 5:29
  issues
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  psychological
• 5:31
  and.
• 5:32
  And
• 5:32
  physical
• 5:32
  issues.
• 5:33
  And
• 5:34
  when
• 5:34
  the
• 5:35
  breeds
• 5:35
  are
• 5:35
  mixed,
• 5:36
  like
• 5:36
  with
• 5:36
  my
• 5:36
  dear
• 5:37
  dog,
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  know,
• 5:37
  she's
• 5:37
  a
• 5:38
  labra
• 5:38
  pit
• 5:39
  with
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  little
• 5:40
  bulldog,
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  think,
• 5:41
  thrown
• 5:41
  in
• 5:41
  there.
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  had
• 5:41
  her
• 5:42
  DNA
• 5:42
  test
• 5:42
  done
• 5:43
  and
• 5:43
  she's
• 5:43
  just
• 5:43
  a
• 5:43
  wonderful
• 5:44
  dog.
• 5:44
  And
• 5:45
  Americans,
• 5:45
  we're
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  nation
• 5:46
  of
• 5:46
  mutts,
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  know,
• 5:47
  and
• 5:48
  we
• 5:48
  do
• 5:49
  exchange
• 5:50
  and.
• 5:50
  And
• 5:50
  it's
• 5:51
  made
• 5:51
  us
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  great
• 5:51
  nation.
• 5:52
  We
• 5:52
  have
• 5:52
  obviously
• 5:53
  had
• 5:53
  some
• 5:53
  problems
• 5:54
  getting
• 5:54
  it
• 5:54
  together,
• 5:55
  but
• 5:56
  to
• 5:57
  be
• 5:57
  a
• 5:57
  mutt
• 5:57
  is
• 5:57
  not
• 5:57
  a
• 5:58
  bad
• 5:58
  thing.
• 5:58
  And
• 5:58
  if
• 5:59
  you
• 5:59
  just
• 5:59
  have
• 5:59
  like
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  Habsburgs
• 6:01
  in
• 6:01
  Austrian
• 6:02
  Empire,
• 6:02
  they
• 6:03
  only
• 6:03
  would
• 6:04
  breed
• 6:04
  with
• 6:04
  other
• 6:05
  people
• 6:05
  of
• 6:05
  their
• 6:06
  family
• 6:06
  and
• 6:07
  the
• 6:07
  royalty.
• 6:08
  You
• 6:08
  couldn't
• 6:08
  marry
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  common
• 6:09
  or
• 6:09
  anybody
• 6:10
  below
• 6:10
  your
• 6:10
  status.
• 6:10
  And
• 6:11
  you
• 6:11
  look
• 6:11
  at
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  later
• 6:12
  photographs
• 6:12
  of
• 6:12
  them,
• 6:12
  they
• 6:13
  were
• 6:13
  all
• 6:13
  distorted,
• 6:14
  their
• 6:14
  facial
• 6:15
  features
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  everything,
• 6:16
  because
• 6:16
  they
• 6:16
  just
• 6:16
  inbred
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  inbred
• 6:17
  and
• 6:18
  inbred.
• 6:19
  And
• 6:19
  the
• 6:19
  Native
• 6:19
  American
• 6:20
  tribes
• 6:20
  invited
• 6:21
  people
• 6:22
  from
• 6:22
  outside
• 6:22
  to
• 6:23
  become
• 6:23
  tribe
• 6:24
  members,
• 6:24
  like
• 6:24
  escaped
• 6:25
  slaves
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  white
• 6:26
  people
• 6:26
  that
• 6:26
  wanted
• 6:26
  to,
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  know,
• 6:27
  adopt
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  Native
• 6:28
  American
• 6:28
  style
• 6:29
  and
• 6:29
  that
• 6:29
  they
• 6:30
  knew
• 6:30
  intuitively
• 6:31
  that
• 6:31
  the
• 6:32
  tribe
• 6:32
  would
• 6:32
  be
• 6:32
  stronger
• 6:33
  if
• 6:34
  they
• 6:34
  were
• 6:35
  mixed.
• 6:35
  Which
• 6:35
  is
• 6:36
  like
• 6:36
  completely
• 6:37
  contrary
• 6:37
  to
• 6:38
  right
• 6:38
  wing,
• 6:39
  far
• 6:39
  right
• 6:39
  wing
• 6:40
  doctrine
• 6:41
  dogma,
• 6:42
  you
• 6:42
  know,
• 6:42
  Right.
• 6:43
  The
• 6:43
  chosen
• 6:44
  people
• 6:44
  that.
• 6:45
  Not
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  chosen
• 6:45
  people,
• 6:46
  but
• 6:46
  the,
• 6:46
  the
• 6:46
  superior
• 6:47
  race.
• 6:48
  Wonder
• 6:48
  if
• 6:49
  we
• 6:49
  don't
• 6:49
  have
• 6:49
  here
• 6:49
  an
• 6:50
  example
• 6:50
  of
• 6:50
  the
• 6:51
  excessive
• 6:53
  excess
• 6:54
  leading
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  reaction.
• 6:55
  And
• 6:56
  the
• 6:57
  attempt
• 6:57
  to
• 6:57
  deny
• 6:58
  racial
• 6:59
  differences
• 7:00
  made
• 7:00
  it
• 7:00
  very
• 7:00
  easy
• 7:01
  for
• 7:01
  an
• 7:02
  attack,
• 7:03
  a
• 7:03
  swing
• 7:03
  back
• 7:04
  in
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  other
• 7:04
  direction
• 7:05
  to
• 7:05
  emphasize
• 7:06
  differences.
• 7:07
  And
• 7:07
  maybe
• 7:08
  the
• 7:08
  reality
• 7:08
  is
• 7:09
  all
• 7:09
  of
• 7:09
  the
• 7:10
  above.
• 7:10
  Everything
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  you've
• 7:11
  both
• 7:11
  said
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  there
• 7:12
  are,
• 7:12
  yes,
• 7:13
  there's
• 7:13
  one
• 7:13
  human
• 7:13
  race,
• 7:14
  there
• 7:14
  are
• 7:15
  individual
• 7:16
  races
• 7:16
  within
• 7:17
  that.
• 7:17
  And
• 7:19
  in
• 7:20
  some
• 7:20
  ways
• 7:20
  it
• 7:20
  seems
• 7:20
  almost
• 7:21
  by
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  point,
• 7:22
  because
• 7:23
  surely
• 7:24
  our
• 7:24
  value
• 7:24
  should
• 7:25
  be
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  give
• 7:25
  everyone
• 7:26
  of
• 7:26
  any
• 7:28
  skin
• 7:28
  color
• 7:29
  or
• 7:29
  gender
• 7:29
  or
• 7:30
  whatever
• 7:31
  equal
• 7:31
  opportunity
• 7:32
  and
• 7:33
  equal
• 7:33
  chance
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  be
• 7:34
  as
• 7:35
  full
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  complete
• 7:36
  a
• 7:36
  human
• 7:36
  being
• 7:36
  as
• 7:37
  possible.
• 7:37
  That's
• 7:38
  absolutely
• 7:38
  the
• 7:39
  point.
• 7:39
  And
• 7:40
  I
• 7:40
  think
• 7:40
  that
• 7:40
  all
• 7:41
  education
• 7:42
  should
• 7:42
  be
• 7:42
  paid
• 7:43
  for.
• 7:43
  What
• 7:43
  a
• 7:44
  better
• 7:44
  investment
• 7:44
  in
• 7:45
  our
• 7:45
  country.
• 7:46
  And
• 7:46
  if
• 7:46
  you're
• 7:46
  hardworking
• 7:47
  and
• 7:47
  smart
• 7:47
  enough
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  go
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  Harvard
• 7:48
  or
• 7:49
  Columbia,
• 7:50
  boom,
• 7:51
  go.
• 7:51
  That's
• 7:52
  investment
• 7:52
  in
• 7:52
  our
• 7:53
  country
• 7:53
  and
• 7:53
  that's
• 7:53
  going
• 7:53
  to
• 7:53
  help
• 7:53
  our
• 7:54
  country
• 7:54
  be
• 7:54
  greater
• 7:55
  as
• 7:55
  far
• 7:55
  as
• 7:55
  you
• 7:55
  want
• 7:55
  to
• 7:55
  go.
• 7:56
  And
• 7:56
  if
• 7:56
  that's
• 7:56
  not
• 7:56
  your
• 7:56
  thing,
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  know,
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  can
• 7:58
  study
• 7:58
  to
• 7:58
  be
• 7:58
  a
• 7:59
  plumber
• 7:59
  or
• 7:59
  electrician
• 8:00
  or
• 8:00
  something
• 8:00
  else,
• 8:00
  or
• 8:01
  a
• 8:01
  farmer.
• 8:02
  But
• 8:02
  that,
• 8:03
  that
• 8:03
  access
• 8:04
  has
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  be
• 8:04
  open.
• 8:04
  The
• 8:05
  opportunity
• 8:06
  has
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  be
• 8:06
  open.
• 8:07
  And
• 8:08
  I
• 8:09
  don't
• 8:09
  think,
• 8:09
  I
• 8:10
  mean,
• 8:10
  speaking
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  black
• 8:11
  people,
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  mean,
• 8:11
  there's
• 8:11
  no,
• 8:12
  I
• 8:12
  mean,
• 8:13
  my
• 8:13
  heroes,
• 8:14
  right,
• 8:14
  and
• 8:14
  the
• 8:15
  music
• 8:15
  I
• 8:15
  play
• 8:16
  have,
• 8:16
  have
• 8:17
  often
• 8:17
  been
• 8:17
  black.
• 8:17
  And
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  don't
• 8:18
  want
• 8:19
  to
• 8:20
  make
• 8:21
  African
• 8:21
  Americanism
• 8:22
  or
• 8:22
  whatever
• 8:23
  that
• 8:23
  is
• 8:23
  go
• 8:24
  away.
• 8:24
  And
• 8:24
  I've
• 8:24
  heard
• 8:25
  certain
• 8:26
  speakers
• 8:26
  say
• 8:26
  that
• 8:27
  I,
• 8:27
  I
• 8:27
  value
• 8:27
  the
• 8:28
  culture,
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  value
• 8:28
  the.
• 8:29
  What
• 8:29
  it's
• 8:29
  given
• 8:30
  us
• 8:30
  in
• 8:31
  spiritually
• 8:32
  and
• 8:33
  politically
• 8:34
  and
• 8:34
  the
• 8:35
  sense
• 8:35
  of
• 8:35
  justice
• 8:36
  and
• 8:36
  the
• 8:37
  soulfulness
• 8:38
  that
• 8:38
  you
• 8:39
  find
• 8:39
  so
• 8:39
  much
• 8:39
  in,
• 8:40
  in
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  black
• 8:40
  churches
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  has
• 8:41
  spread
• 8:42
  out
• 8:42
  through
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  common
• 8:43
  culture.
• 8:43
  That's
• 8:44
  been
• 8:44
  incredibly
• 8:45
  rewarding.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  most
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  my,
• 8:47
  you
• 8:47
  know,
• 8:47
  I'd
• 8:47
  say
• 8:47
  about
• 8:48
  60,
• 8:49
  70%
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  my
• 8:50
  musical
• 8:51
  heroes
• 8:51
  and
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  am
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  musician
• 8:52
  and
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  play
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  lot
• 8:53
  of
• 8:54
  music.
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  play
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  blues,
• 8:56
  have
• 8:56
  all
• 8:56
  been,
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  know,
• 8:58
  African
• 8:59
  American
• 8:59
  and
• 8:59
  they
• 9:00
  bring
• 9:00
  a
• 9:00
  certain
• 9:00
  taste.
• 9:01
  Oh,
• 9:01
  and
• 9:02
  one
• 9:02
  time
• 9:02
  when
• 9:02
  we
• 9:02
  were
• 9:03
  at,
• 9:03
  we
• 9:03
  had
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  conference
• 9:04
  and
• 9:04
  we
• 9:04
  really
• 9:04
  connected
• 9:05
  for
• 9:06
  the
• 9:06
  first
• 9:06
  time.
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  mean,
• 9:06
  you've
• 9:07
  seen
• 9:07
  each
• 9:07
  other
• 9:07
  before.
• 9:07
  I
• 9:08
  think
• 9:08
  we're
• 9:08
  standing
• 9:08
  in
• 9:08
  line
• 9:09
  to
• 9:09
  eat
• 9:10
  or
• 9:10
  something
• 9:10
  and
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  told
• 9:11
  me
• 9:11
  this
• 9:11
  just
• 9:12
  thought
• 9:12
  about
• 9:12
  it
• 9:12
  today.
• 9:12
  And
• 9:13
  it
• 9:13
  really
• 9:13
  moved
• 9:13
  me.
• 9:13
  You
• 9:14
  said
• 9:14
  you
• 9:14
  like
• 9:15
  Jews.
• 9:16
  And
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  went,
• 9:17
  yeah,
• 9:18
  I
• 9:18
  do.
• 9:18
  You
• 9:19
  know,
• 9:19
  and
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  was
• 9:20
  like,
• 9:20
  I
• 9:21
  don't
• 9:21
  know
• 9:21
  why
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  said
• 9:21
  what
• 9:22
  made
• 9:22
  you
• 9:22
  say
• 9:22
  that,
• 9:23
  but
• 9:23
  it
• 9:23
  was
• 9:23
  like,
• 9:24
  it's
• 9:24
  very
• 9:24
  true.
• 9:25
  You
• 9:25
  know,
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  really
• 9:27
  do
• 9:27
  like
• 9:27
  Jews.
• 9:27
  And
• 9:28
  not
• 9:28
  all
• 9:28
  Jews
• 9:28
  are
• 9:28
  great.
• 9:28
  And
• 9:29
  I'm
• 9:29
  not
• 9:29
  saying
• 9:29
  they're
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  chosen
• 9:30
  people
• 9:30
  or
• 9:31
  they're
• 9:31
  not
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  devil
• 9:31
  spawn.
• 9:32
  They're
• 9:32
  just
• 9:32
  an
• 9:33
  amazing
• 9:33
  group
• 9:33
  of
• 9:34
  people
• 9:34
  who
• 9:35
  I've
• 9:35
  got
• 9:35
  so
• 9:36
  much
• 9:36
  for.
• 9:36
  And
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  just
• 9:37
  like
• 9:37
  what
• 9:39
  interacting
• 9:40
  with
• 9:41
  Jews
• 9:41
  has
• 9:41
  given
• 9:41
  me.
• 9:42
  And
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  just
• 9:42
  like
• 9:43
  them.
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  mean,
• 9:43
  I'm
• 9:43
  a
• 9:44
  pro
• 9:44
  Semite,
• 9:44
  if
• 9:45
  there's
• 9:45
  such
• 9:45
  a
• 9:45
  word,
• 9:45
  and
• 9:46
  you
• 9:46
  know,
• 9:47
  there
• 9:47
  it
• 9:47
  is.
• 9:48
  Well,
• 9:48
  you
• 9:48
  know,
• 9:48
  I
• 9:49
  think
• 9:49
  it's
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  kind
• 9:51
  of
• 9:51
  reshape
• 9:52
  this
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  little
• 9:52
  bit.
• 9:52
  I
• 9:53
  think
• 9:53
  it's
• 9:53
  almost
• 9:53
  safer
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  talk
• 9:54
  about
• 9:55
  things
• 9:56
  from
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  cultural
• 9:56
  perspective
• 9:57
  that,
• 9:58
  you
• 9:58
  know,
• 9:58
  just
• 9:58
  as
• 9:59
  example,
• 9:59
  if
• 9:59
  you
• 9:59
  want
• 9:59
  to
• 10:00
  talk
• 10:00
  about
• 10:00
  Jews,
• 10:00
  you
• 10:01
  know,
• 10:01
  I
• 10:01
  grew
• 10:01
  up
• 10:02
  Jewish
• 10:02
  heritage,
• 10:03
  but
• 10:04
  my,
• 10:04
  my,
• 10:04
  my
• 10:04
  dad
• 10:05
  is
• 10:05
  an
• 10:05
  Ashkenazi.
• 10:06
  My
• 10:06
  dad,
• 10:06
  who's
• 10:07
  asked,
• 10:07
  was
• 10:08
  an
• 10:08
  Ashkenazi
• 10:09
  side
• 10:09
  and
• 10:10
  my
• 10:10
  mother
• 10:10
  is
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  Sephardic,
• 10:11
  which
• 10:12
  means
• 10:12
  it
• 10:13
  was
• 10:13
  from
• 10:13
  Spain,
• 10:14
  Mediterranean,
• 10:15
  along
• 10:16
  those
• 10:16
  lines.
• 10:16
  And
• 10:16
  they're
• 10:17
  really
• 10:17
  different
• 10:17
  cultures,
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:19
  going
• 10:19
  to
• 10:20
  family
• 10:20
  gatherings
• 10:21
  and
• 10:22
  etc.
• 10:23
  And
• 10:23
  on
• 10:24
  both
• 10:24
  sides.
• 10:24
  How
• 10:25
  interesting.
• 10:26
  Extraordinary
• 10:27
  different
• 10:28
  experiences,
• 10:29
  really
• 10:29
  foreign
• 10:30
  from
• 10:30
  each
• 10:30
  other
• 10:31
  that
• 10:31
  it
• 10:32
  just
• 10:33
  night
• 10:33
  and
• 10:33
  day.
• 10:35
  And
• 10:35
  I
• 10:35
  think
• 10:35
  you're
• 10:35
  pointing
• 10:36
  to
• 10:36
  something
• 10:36
  important
• 10:36
  here,
• 10:37
  Mark,
• 10:37
  and
• 10:37
  that
• 10:37
  is,
• 10:37
  you
• 10:38
  know,
• 10:38
  this,
• 10:38
  when
• 10:38
  we
• 10:39
  talk
• 10:39
  broadly
• 10:40
  in
• 10:40
  stereotypic
• 10:41
  ways,
• 10:41
  we
• 10:41
  don't
• 10:42
  really
• 10:42
  do
• 10:42
  much
• 10:43
  service
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  anyone.
• 10:44
  Right?
• 10:45
  Yeah,
• 10:46
  yeah.
• 10:46
  And
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  think
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  goes
• 10:47
  back
• 10:47
  to
• 10:48
  this
• 10:49
  idea
• 10:49
  of
• 10:50
  inherent
• 10:50
  capabilities
• 10:52
  of
• 10:53
  a
• 10:53
  so
• 10:53
  called
• 10:53
  race,
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  certain
• 10:55
  race.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  you
• 10:56
  know,
• 10:56
  that's,
• 10:56
  that's
• 10:57
  kind
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  Hitler
• 10:57
  language
• 10:58
  that
• 10:59
  kind
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  separated.
• 11:00
  It's
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  very
• 11:02
  slippery
• 11:02
  slope
• 11:03
  for
• 11:03
  sure
• 11:03
  and
• 11:04
  has
• 11:04
  to
• 11:04
  be
• 11:04
  treated
• 11:05
  as
• 11:05
  with
• 11:05
  so
• 11:06
  many
• 11:06
  of
• 11:06
  these
• 11:06
  topics,
• 11:06
  they
• 11:07
  need
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  be
• 11:07
  treated
• 11:08
  with
• 11:08
  great
• 11:09
  care
• 11:09
  and
• 11:10
  compassion
• 11:10
  and
• 11:11
  discernment
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  respect.
• 11:13
  Respect.
• 11:13
  Yeah,
• 11:14
  respect.
• 11:14
  Yeah.
• 11:15
  If
• 11:16
  we
• 11:16
  could
• 11:16
  switch,
• 11:17
  switch
• 11:18
  topics
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  little
• 11:19
  here,
• 11:19
  and
• 11:19
  that
• 11:19
  is
• 11:20
  one
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  things
• 11:20
  that's
• 11:21
  been
• 11:21
  mentioned,
• 11:22
  but
• 11:22
  only
• 11:22
  in
• 11:22
  passing
• 11:23
  several
• 11:23
  times,
• 11:24
  is
• 11:24
  what's
• 11:25
  now
• 11:25
  being
• 11:25
  called
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  authoritarian
• 11:27
  slide.
• 11:29
  And
• 11:29
  Tamak,
• 11:30
  I
• 11:30
  wonder
• 11:30
  if
• 11:30
  you
• 11:30
  could
• 11:31
  speak
• 11:31
  to
• 11:31
  this
• 11:32
  maybe
• 11:32
  just
• 11:32
  by
• 11:32
  starting
• 11:33
  off
• 11:33
  by
• 11:34
  defining
• 11:34
  authoritarianism
• 11:36
  and
• 11:36
  then
• 11:37
  pointing
• 11:37
  to
• 11:38
  some
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  movements
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  you
• 11:39
  see
• 11:40
  that
• 11:40
  have
• 11:41
  happened
• 11:41
  in
• 11:41
  this
• 11:41
  administration,
• 11:42
  which
• 11:43
  really
• 11:44
  may
• 11:44
  be
• 11:45
  moving
• 11:45
  in
• 11:45
  that
• 11:45
  direction.
• 11:47
  Yeah,
• 11:48
  well,
• 11:48
  you
• 11:49
  know,
• 11:49
  authoritarianism
• 11:50
  is
• 11:51
  kind
• 11:51
  of
• 11:51
  the
• 11:52
  idea
• 11:52
  that
• 11:53
  there
• 11:53
  is
• 11:54
  one
• 11:54
  authority
• 11:55
  who
• 11:56
  gets
• 11:56
  to
• 11:56
  define
• 11:58
  what
• 11:58
  we
• 11:58
  do,
• 11:59
  why
• 11:59
  we
• 11:59
  do,
• 11:59
  who
• 12:00
  we
• 12:00
  are,
• 12:01
  who's
• 12:01
  right,
• 12:02
  who's
• 12:02
  wrong.
• 12:03
  So
• 12:03
  it's
• 12:03
  a
• 12:04
  serious,
• 12:05
  serious
• 12:06
  centralized
• 12:08
  process.
• 12:09
  Of
• 12:10
  and
• 12:10
  where
• 12:10
  are
• 12:11
  there
• 12:11
  are
• 12:12
  the
• 12:13
  people
• 12:13
  that
• 12:13
  are
• 12:13
  on
• 12:13
  the
• 12:13
  good
• 12:14
  side
• 12:14
  and
• 12:14
  then
• 12:14
  there
• 12:15
  are
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  enemies,
• 12:16
  and
• 12:17
  it's
• 12:17
  kind
• 12:18
  of
• 12:18
  they
• 12:19
  become
• 12:19
  outlaws.
• 12:20
  And
• 12:20
  then
• 12:20
  you
• 12:21
  can
• 12:21
  do
• 12:22
  what
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  want
• 12:23
  to
• 12:23
  those
• 12:24
  kinds
• 12:24
  of
• 12:24
  people.
• 12:24
  And
• 12:25
  so
• 12:26
  we
• 12:27
  are
• 12:28
  seeing
• 12:29
  some
• 12:29
  of
• 12:30
  those
• 12:30
  kinds
• 12:31
  of
• 12:31
  behaviors
• 12:33
  from
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  administration.
• 12:34
  So
• 12:35
  you
• 12:35
  can
• 12:37
  think
• 12:37
  back
• 12:38
  just
• 12:38
  on
• 12:38
  day
• 12:38
  one,
• 12:39
  when
• 12:39
  he
• 12:39
  pardoned
• 12:40
  all
• 12:40
  of
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  January
• 12:41
  6th
• 12:42
  folks
• 12:42
  and
• 12:43
  they
• 12:44
  kind
• 12:44
  of
• 12:44
  declared
• 12:44
  war
• 12:45
  on
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  people
• 12:45
  that
• 12:46
  prosecuted
• 12:47
  them.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:49
  then
• 12:50
  he
• 12:50
  went
• 12:50
  after
• 12:50
  the
• 12:51
  law
• 12:51
  firms
• 12:52
  where
• 12:53
  some
• 12:53
  of
• 12:53
  our
• 12:53
  most
• 12:54
  prestigious
• 12:54
  law
• 12:55
  firms,
• 12:55
  one
• 12:56
  who
• 12:57
  did
• 12:57
  pro
• 12:58
  bono
• 12:58
  work
• 12:59
  on
• 12:59
  behalf
• 13:00
  of
• 13:01
  special
• 13:01
  counsel
• 13:02
  Jack
• 13:02
  Smith,
• 13:03
  that
• 13:03
  was
• 13:04
  looking
• 13:04
  into
• 13:05
  Trump's
• 13:05
  actions,
• 13:06
  went
• 13:06
  after
• 13:06
  that
• 13:07
  law
• 13:07
  firm
• 13:08
  to
• 13:08
  bar
• 13:08
  them
• 13:09
  from
• 13:09
  federal
• 13:10
  contracts
• 13:11
  and
• 13:12
  demanded
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  they
• 13:13
  do
• 13:13
  work
• 13:14
  on
• 13:14
  behalf
• 13:15
  of
• 13:16
  what
• 13:16
  Trump
• 13:17
  considers
• 13:18
  appropriate
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  not
• 13:20
  work
• 13:20
  with
• 13:21
  those
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  he
• 13:21
  doesn't
• 13:22
  consider
• 13:22
  appropriate.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:24
  these
• 13:24
  are
• 13:25
  in
• 13:25
  direct
• 13:26
  contravention
• 13:27
  to
• 13:27
  the
• 13:27
  First
• 13:27
  Amendment,
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  United
• 13:28
  States,
• 13:29
  and
• 13:30
  which
• 13:30
  allows
• 13:31
  for
• 13:31
  viewpoint
• 13:32
  diversity.
• 13:34
  And
• 13:34
  also
• 13:35
  it's
• 13:36
  in
• 13:36
  contravention
• 13:37
  to
• 13:37
  our
• 13:37
  due
• 13:37
  process
• 13:38
  rights,
• 13:39
  our
• 13:40
  procedural
• 13:40
  due
• 13:40
  process
• 13:41
  rights,
• 13:41
  to
• 13:42
  not
• 13:42
  be
• 13:42
  punished
• 13:43
  for
• 13:44
  actions
• 13:45
  that
• 13:46
  without
• 13:46
  due
• 13:46
  process,
• 13:47
  which
• 13:47
  is
• 13:47
  what
• 13:48
  he
• 13:48
  did
• 13:48
  with
• 13:48
  his
• 13:48
  executive
• 13:49
  order.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:50
  it
• 13:50
  also
• 13:51
  is
• 13:51
  in
• 13:51
  contravention
• 13:52
  to
• 13:53
  substantive
• 13:53
  due
• 13:54
  process
• 13:54
  rights,
• 13:55
  which
• 13:56
  allows
• 13:56
  one
• 13:57
  to
• 13:57
  live
• 13:58
  the
• 13:58
  career
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  do
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  work
• 14:00
  that
• 14:00
  they
• 14:00
  want
• 14:00
  to
• 14:00
  do.
• 14:01
  We
• 14:01
  have
• 14:01
  that
• 14:02
  commitment
• 14:02
  in
• 14:02
  the
• 14:03
  Constitution
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  allow
• 14:04
  us
• 14:05
  to
• 14:05
  live
• 14:05
  the
• 14:06
  life
• 14:06
  that
• 14:06
  we
• 14:06
  want
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  live
• 14:07
  as
• 14:07
  long
• 14:08
  as
• 14:08
  it's
• 14:08
  within
• 14:08
  the
• 14:09
  rules
• 14:09
  of
• 14:09
  the
• 14:10
  United
• 14:10
  States.
• 14:10
  And
• 14:11
  so,
• 14:11
  you
• 14:11
  know,
• 14:12
  that
• 14:12
  was
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  kind
• 14:13
  of
• 14:13
  authoritarian
• 14:14
  attack
• 14:15
  on
• 14:16
  our
• 14:17
  law
• 14:17
  firms
• 14:18
  in
• 14:18
  our
• 14:19
  country,
• 14:19
  and
• 14:19
  some
• 14:19
  of
• 14:19
  them
• 14:20
  caved.
• 14:21
  And
• 14:21
  frankly,
• 14:21
  it's
• 14:22
  shameful
• 14:23
  because,
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  know,
• 14:24
  lawyers,
• 14:25
  whether
• 14:26
  we
• 14:26
  love
• 14:26
  them
• 14:26
  or
• 14:27
  not,
• 14:27
  are
• 14:28
  guardians,
• 14:30
  as
• 14:30
  one
• 14:30
  judge
• 14:31
  said,
• 14:31
  of
• 14:31
  the
• 14:31
  rule
• 14:32
  of
• 14:32
  law.
• 14:33
  And
• 14:33
  so
• 14:34
  when
• 14:34
  lawyers
• 14:35
  are
• 14:35
  afraid
• 14:36
  to
• 14:36
  stand
• 14:37
  up,
• 14:37
  and
• 14:38
  really
• 14:38
  that's
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  environment
• 14:39
  that's
• 14:39
  kind
• 14:39
  of
• 14:39
  being
• 14:40
  created,
• 14:41
  is
• 14:41
  that
• 14:42
  if
• 14:42
  you
• 14:42
  do
• 14:42
  stand
• 14:43
  up,
• 14:44
  we're
• 14:44
  going
• 14:44
  to
• 14:44
  sue
• 14:45
  you,
• 14:45
  we're
• 14:45
  going
• 14:46
  to
• 14:46
  bring
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  to
• 14:46
  court.
• 14:47
  And
• 14:47
  if
• 14:47
  you
• 14:48
  don't
• 14:48
  have
• 14:49
  a
• 14:49
  lot
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  money
• 14:50
  and
• 14:50
  you
• 14:50
  aren't
• 14:50
  a
• 14:51
  Harvard
• 14:51
  or
• 14:52
  a
• 14:52
  major
• 14:53
  law
• 14:53
  firm
• 14:54
  with
• 14:54
  a
• 14:55
  huge
• 14:55
  history
• 14:55
  in
• 14:55
  the
• 14:55
  United
• 14:56
  States,
• 14:57
  and
• 14:57
  even
• 14:57
  some
• 14:57
  of
• 14:57
  them
• 14:58
  caved,
• 14:59
  but
• 14:59
  a
• 14:59
  lot
• 14:59
  of
• 14:59
  them
• 15:00
  haven't.
• 15:00
  And
• 15:01
  so
• 15:01
  those
• 15:02
  are
• 15:03
  some
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  hallmarks
• 15:04
  of
• 15:05
  that.
• 15:05
  It's
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  idea
• 15:06
  that
• 15:06
  I
• 15:07
  can
• 15:07
  basically
• 15:08
  do
• 15:08
  what
• 15:08
  I
• 15:08
  want.
• 15:09
  So
• 15:09
  we
• 15:09
  saw
• 15:10
  that
• 15:10
  again,
• 15:11
  Judge
• 15:11
  Mercer,
• 15:12
  the
• 15:12
  one
• 15:12
  that
• 15:12
  was
• 15:12
  presided
• 15:13
  over
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  felony
• 15:14
  cases
• 15:15
  Donald
• 15:16
  Trump
• 15:16
  went
• 15:16
  through,
• 15:16
  where
• 15:16
  he
• 15:16
  was
• 15:17
  convicted
• 15:17
  by
• 15:18
  jury
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  his
• 15:19
  peers
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  34
• 15:20
  felonies,
• 15:20
  and
• 15:21
  he
• 15:21
  refused
• 15:21
  to
• 15:22
  sentence
• 15:22
  him.
• 15:23
  You
• 15:23
  know,
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  thought
• 15:24
  he
• 15:24
  was
• 15:24
  a
• 15:24
  pretty
• 15:25
  good
• 15:25
  guy.
• 15:25
  And
• 15:26
  he
• 15:26
  just,
• 15:27
  well,
• 15:27
  if
• 15:27
  you're
• 15:28
  really
• 15:28
  rich
• 15:28
  and
• 15:28
  powerful
• 15:29
  and
• 15:29
  you're
• 15:29
  going
• 15:29
  to
• 15:29
  be
• 15:29
  running
• 15:29
  for
• 15:30
  president.
• 15:30
  You're
• 15:31
  really
• 15:32
  above
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  law.
• 15:33
  And
• 15:33
  justice
• 15:34
  is
• 15:34
  not
• 15:34
  blind.
• 15:35
  It's
• 15:36
  if
• 15:36
  you've
• 15:36
  got
• 15:36
  connections
• 15:37
  and
• 15:37
  power.
• 15:40
  As
• 15:40
  he
• 15:40
  said,
• 15:40
  I
• 15:41
  could
• 15:41
  walk
• 15:41
  down
• 15:42
  Main
• 15:42
  Street,
• 15:42
  New
• 15:43
  York
• 15:43
  City
• 15:43
  and
• 15:43
  kill
• 15:43
  somebody
• 15:44
  and
• 15:44
  my
• 15:45
  followers
• 15:45
  wouldn't
• 15:46
  care.
• 15:47
  And
• 15:47
  he
• 15:47
  said
• 15:47
  that
• 15:48
  a
• 15:48
  long
• 15:48
  time
• 15:48
  ago,
• 15:48
  but
• 15:48
  that's
• 15:49
  just,
• 15:49
  it's
• 15:49
  just
• 15:49
  shameful.
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  mean,
• 15:51
  we
• 15:51
  have
• 15:51
  this
• 15:52
  guy
• 15:52
  running.
• 15:52
  One
• 15:53
  of
• 15:53
  his
• 15:53
  main
• 15:53
  objects
• 15:53
  is
• 15:54
  to
• 15:54
  become
• 15:54
  president
• 15:54
  so
• 15:54
  he
• 15:55
  wouldn't
• 15:55
  go
• 15:55
  to
• 15:55
  prison.
• 15:56
  That's
• 15:56
  kind
• 15:57
  of
• 15:57
  a
• 15:57
  new
• 15:57
  one,
• 15:57
  a
• 15:58
  new
• 15:58
  precedent
• 15:58
  in
• 15:59
  American
• 15:59
  history.
• 16:00
  So,
• 16:01
  yeah,
• 16:02
  people
• 16:02
  caving
• 16:03
  and,
• 16:04
  you
• 16:04
  know,
• 16:04
  it's
• 16:05
  easy
• 16:05
  to
• 16:06
  say,
• 16:06
  though
• 16:06
  they're
• 16:07
  cowards
• 16:07
  and
• 16:07
  everything,
• 16:07
  but
• 16:08
  when
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  feel
• 16:08
  that
• 16:09
  pressure
• 16:09
  on
• 16:09
  yourself,
• 16:10
  you
• 16:10
  know,
• 16:11
  your
• 16:11
  livelihood,
• 16:11
  your
• 16:12
  freedom
• 16:12
  and
• 16:12
  also
• 16:13
  are
• 16:14
  at
• 16:14
  risk,
• 16:15
  you
• 16:15
  know,
• 16:15
  how
• 16:15
  do
• 16:16
  you
• 16:16
  handle
• 16:16
  that?
• 16:17
  Do
• 16:17
  you.
• 16:17
  You
• 16:18
  put
• 16:19
  ethics
• 16:19
  and
• 16:20
  morality
• 16:20
  and
• 16:20
  the
• 16:21
  love
• 16:21
  of
• 16:21
  democracy
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  freedom
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  the
• 16:23
  people
• 16:23
  of
• 16:23
  our
• 16:23
  country
• 16:23
  first,
• 16:24
  or
• 16:24
  is
• 16:24
  it
• 16:24
  just
• 16:25
  I
• 16:26
  can't
• 16:26
  do
• 16:26
  that?
• 16:26
  That's
• 16:26
  a
• 16:27
  question
• 16:27
  each
• 16:27
  person
• 16:27
  has
• 16:28
  to
• 16:28
  answer
• 16:28
  for
• 16:29
  themselves,
• 16:29
  their
• 16:30
  own
• 16:30
  conscience.
• 16:30
  But,
• 16:32
  well,
• 16:32
  it's,
• 16:33
  you
• 16:33
  know,
• 16:33
  you're
• 16:34
  looking
• 16:34
  in
• 16:34
  your
• 16:35
  background,
• 16:36
  behind
• 16:36
  you,
• 16:36
  you
• 16:36
  have
• 16:37
  Dr.
• 16:37
  King
• 16:37
  and
• 16:38
  you
• 16:38
  have
• 16:38
  Needles
• 16:40
  who
• 16:40
  took
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  stand
• 16:41
  to
• 16:41
  not
• 16:41
  play,
• 16:42
  you
• 16:42
  know,
• 16:43
  in
• 16:43
  southern
• 16:43
  venues
• 16:44
  that
• 16:45
  it
• 16:45
  didn't.
• 16:45
  Allow
• 16:46
  blacks
• 16:46
  to
• 16:47
  be
• 16:47
  in
• 16:47
  there.
• 16:48
  And
• 16:48
  you
• 16:49
  see
• 16:49
  the
• 16:50
  moral
• 16:51
  authority
• 16:51
  of
• 16:51
  Dr.
• 16:52
  King,
• 16:52
  who,
• 16:53
  you
• 16:54
  know,
• 16:55
  spoke,
• 16:55
  as
• 16:55
  Roger
• 16:56
  said
• 16:56
  earlier,
• 16:57
  at
• 16:57
  a
• 16:57
  world
• 16:58
  centric
• 16:58
  level,
• 16:59
  certainly
• 16:59
  maybe
• 17:00
  even
• 17:00
  more
• 17:00
  of
• 17:00
  a
• 17:00
  cosmo
• 17:01
  centric
• 17:01
  level
• 17:02
  of
• 17:02
  understanding
• 17:04
  of
• 17:05
  our
• 17:05
  interconnection
• 17:06
  as
• 17:06
  beings.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:08
  literally
• 17:08
  on
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  last
• 17:09
  day
• 17:10
  that
• 17:10
  he
• 17:10
  lived,
• 17:11
  he
• 17:11
  foresaw
• 17:12
  his
• 17:12
  death
• 17:13
  soon
• 17:14
  and,
• 17:15
  and
• 17:15
  said
• 17:16
  it
• 17:16
  did.
• 17:16
  Doesn't
• 17:17
  matter.
• 17:18
  This
• 17:18
  is
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  right
• 17:18
  move,
• 17:19
  this
• 17:19
  is
• 17:19
  the
• 17:20
  right
• 17:20
  act.
• 17:20
  He
• 17:21
  was
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  dead
• 17:21
  man
• 17:21
  walking.
• 17:22
  This
• 17:22
  picture
• 17:23
  is
• 17:23
  a
• 17:23
  picture
• 17:23
  of
• 17:23
  him
• 17:24
  and
• 17:24
  arriving
• 17:24
  at
• 17:24
  Memphis
• 17:25
  airport
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  day
• 17:26
  before
• 17:26
  he
• 17:26
  was
• 17:26
  assassinated.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  there
• 17:28
  are
• 17:28
  three
• 17:28
  pictures,
• 17:29
  one
• 17:30
  of
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  pictures
• 17:30
  and
• 17:30
  there
• 17:31
  are
• 17:31
  two
• 17:31
  other
• 17:31
  ones
• 17:31
  that
• 17:31
  were
• 17:32
  taken
• 17:32
  there.
• 17:32
  But
• 17:32
  this
• 17:32
  was,
• 17:34
  like
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  said,
• 17:34
  he
• 17:34
  knew,
• 17:35
  he
• 17:35
  predicted
• 17:36
  he
• 17:36
  was
• 17:36
  going
• 17:36
  to
• 17:36
  be
• 17:36
  killed
• 17:37
  in
• 17:37
  his
• 17:37
  last
• 17:37
  sermon
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  he
• 17:39
  was
• 17:39
  assassinated
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  next
• 17:40
  day.
• 17:40
  So
• 17:40
  this
• 17:40
  is
• 17:40
  a
• 17:40
  very,
• 17:41
  very,
• 17:41
  very
• 17:42
  important
• 17:43
  picture.
• 17:43
  It's
• 17:44
  a
• 17:44
  really
• 17:44
  interesting
• 17:44
  story
• 17:45
  how
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  came
• 17:45
  to
• 17:46
  have
• 17:46
  it,
• 17:46
  but
• 17:46
  this
• 17:46
  is
• 17:46
  a
• 17:47
  one
• 17:47
  off.
• 17:47
  There's
• 17:47
  no
• 17:48
  other.
• 17:48
  This
• 17:48
  was
• 17:49
  done
• 17:49
  by
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  original
• 17:50
  photographer
• 17:50
  and
• 17:51
  it's
• 17:51
  signed.
• 17:51
  It's
• 17:51
  museum
• 17:53
  stuff.
• 17:53
  I
• 17:54
  lent
• 17:54
  it
• 17:54
  to
• 17:54
  the,
• 17:55
  the
• 17:55
  African
• 17:56
  American
• 17:56
  Museum
• 17:57
  where
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  live
• 17:57
  and
• 17:58
  they,
• 17:58
  you
• 17:58
  know,
• 17:58
  they
• 17:58
  use
• 17:58
  it.
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  just
• 17:59
  think
• 17:59
  it's
• 17:59
  a
• 18:00
  incredible
• 18:00
  photograph.
• 18:01
  And
• 18:01
  the
• 18:01
  guy
• 18:01
  in
• 18:01
  the
• 18:02
  background
• 18:03
  there,
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  can't
• 18:03
  see
• 18:03
  him
• 18:04
  interesting
• 18:05
  enough.
• 18:05
  He
• 18:05
  was
• 18:06
  working
• 18:06
  for
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  FBI.
• 18:08
  So
• 18:08
  you,
• 18:08
  you
• 18:08
  have
• 18:08
  a
• 18:09
  Judas
• 18:09
  figure,
• 18:10
  you
• 18:10
  know,
• 18:11
  right
• 18:11
  there
• 18:11
  in
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  background.
• 18:12
  And
• 18:13
  yeah,
• 18:13
  he
• 18:13
  was.
• 18:14
  And
• 18:15
  he'd
• 18:15
  already
• 18:15
  won
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  Nobel
• 18:16
  Peace
• 18:16
  Prize.
• 18:17
  He
• 18:17
  could
• 18:17
  have
• 18:17
  kicked
• 18:18
  back
• 18:18
  and
• 18:18
  written
• 18:18
  books
• 18:19
  and
• 18:19
  been
• 18:19
  a
• 18:19
  great,
• 18:20
  you
• 18:20
  know,
• 18:20
  whatever,
• 18:21
  but
• 18:21
  he
• 18:21
  led
• 18:21
  from
• 18:22
  the
• 18:22
  front
• 18:23
  because
• 18:24
  he
• 18:24
  could
• 18:24
  do
• 18:24
  no
• 18:24
  other.
• 18:26
  That
• 18:26
  was
• 18:26
  right.
• 18:27
  That
• 18:27
  level
• 18:27
  of
• 18:27
  moral
• 18:28
  conviction.
• 18:28
  And,
• 18:29
  you
• 18:29
  know,
• 18:29
  really,
• 18:29
  that's
• 18:30
  what.
• 18:30
  And
• 18:31
  you
• 18:31
  know,
• 18:31
  that
• 18:31
  last
• 18:32
  speech
• 18:32
  they
• 18:32
  call
• 18:32
  is
• 18:33
  I've
• 18:33
  Been
• 18:33
  to
• 18:33
  the
• 18:34
  Mountaintop.
• 18:34
  And
• 18:35
  those
• 18:35
  last
• 18:36
  three
• 18:36
  minutes
• 18:36
  are
• 18:37
  chilling
• 18:38
  for
• 18:38
  anyone
• 18:38
  that
• 18:39
  chooses
• 18:39
  to
• 18:39
  watch
• 18:40
  it
• 18:40
  because
• 18:41
  he
• 18:41
  does
• 18:41
  foresee
• 18:42
  that
• 18:42
  he's
• 18:43
  about
• 18:43
  to
• 18:43
  die.
• 18:44
  And
• 18:44
  we
• 18:44
  need
• 18:44
  Martin
• 18:45
  now
• 18:46
  more
• 18:46
  than
• 18:46
  ever.
• 18:47
  It's
• 18:47
  not
• 18:47
  like,
• 18:48
  oh,
• 18:48
  you
• 18:48
  know,
• 18:48
  we
• 18:49
  don't
• 18:49
  need
• 18:49
  that
• 18:49
  what
• 18:49
  he
• 18:50
  was
• 18:50
  talking
• 18:50
  about.
• 18:50
  We
• 18:51
  need
• 18:51
  it
• 18:51
  more
• 18:51
  than
• 18:52
  ever.
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  would
• 18:53
  say
• 18:53
  that
• 18:53
  we
• 18:53
  need
• 18:54
  Martin's
• 18:54
  level
• 18:54
  of
• 18:55
  moral
• 18:55
  awareness.
• 18:56
  Yeah.
• 18:56
  Need
• 18:57
  that
• 18:57
  level.
• 18:58
  Yeah.
• 18:58
  That's
• 18:58
  beautiful.
• 18:59
  Yeah.
• 19:00
  Just
• 19:00
  to
• 19:00
  emphasize
• 19:01
  what
• 19:01
  you're
• 19:01
  saying,
• 19:01
  that
• 19:02
  we
• 19:02
  can't
• 19:02
  rely
• 19:03
  on
• 19:03
  others
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  do
• 19:04
  this
• 19:04
  for
• 19:04
  us.
• 19:04
  It's
• 19:05
  going
• 19:05
  to
• 19:05
  require
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  lot
• 19:07
  of
• 19:07
  us,
• 19:07
  as
• 19:07
  you
• 19:08
  said,
• 19:08
  John,
• 19:08
  courage,
• 19:09
  a
• 19:09
  lot
• 19:10
  of
• 19:10
  us
• 19:10
  to.
• 19:11
  To
• 19:11
  be
• 19:11
  willing
• 19:12
  to
• 19:12
  stand
• 19:12
  up
• 19:13
  and.
• 19:14
  Probably
• 19:14
  not
• 19:14
  going
• 19:14
  to
• 19:14
  be
• 19:14
  easy.
• 19:15
  No.
• 19:15
  And
• 19:15
  it
• 19:16
  may
• 19:16
  be
• 19:16
  dangerous.
• 19:17
  It
• 19:18
  may.
• 19:19
  It
• 19:19
  may
• 19:19
  be
• 19:20
  that.
• 19:20
  But
• 19:21
  we've
• 19:21
  got
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  contemplate
• 19:22
  what's
• 19:22
  at
• 19:22
  stake
• 19:23
  because,
• 19:24
  you
• 19:24
  know,
• 19:24
  this
• 19:24
  is.
• 19:26
  The
• 19:26
  assault
• 19:28
  on
• 19:28
  democracy
• 19:30
  that
• 19:30
  we
• 19:31
  are
• 19:31
  experiencing
• 19:33
  is
• 19:33
  also
• 19:35
  kind
• 19:35
  of
• 19:35
  an
• 19:35
  assault
• 19:36
  on
• 19:37
  a
• 19:37
  spiritual
• 19:38
  understanding
• 19:39
  of
• 19:39
  the
• 19:40
  deeper
• 19:40
  nature
• 19:40
  of
• 19:41
  our
• 19:41
  existence
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  our
• 19:42
  responsibility,
• 19:44
  our
• 19:44
  work
• 19:45
  to
• 19:45
  repair
• 19:46
  the
• 19:46
  earth
• 19:47
  for
• 19:47
  all
• 19:47
  beings.
• 19:48
  Tikkun
• 19:48
  olam,
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  Bodhisattva
• 19:50
  vow,
• 19:51
  You
• 19:52
  know,
• 19:53
  Jesus's
• 19:54
  sermons
• 19:54
  of
• 19:55
  responsibility
• 19:57
  to
• 19:57
  your
• 19:57
  brother,
• 19:58
  to
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  whore,
• 19:59
  to,
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  know,
• 20:01
  all
• 20:01
  beings,
• 20:02
  these
• 20:02
  are
• 20:03
  foundational
• 20:05
  to
• 20:06
  living
• 20:06
  a
• 20:08
  meaningful
• 20:08
  life,
• 20:08
  a
• 20:09
  life
• 20:09
  that's
• 20:10
  well
• 20:10
  lived.
• 20:11
  And
• 20:11
  so
• 20:12
  this,
• 20:12
  to
• 20:12
  me,
• 20:13
  you
• 20:13
  know,
• 20:14
  the
• 20:14
  laws,
• 20:14
  the
• 20:15
  Declaration
• 20:16
  of
• 20:16
  Independence,
• 20:16
  those
• 20:17
  ideas
• 20:18
  are
• 20:19
  kind
• 20:19
  of
• 20:20
  woven
• 20:20
  within
• 20:21
  an
• 20:21
  idea
• 20:21
  of
• 20:22
  equality
• 20:23
  and
• 20:23
  dignity
• 20:24
  for
• 20:24
  all
• 20:25
  beings.
• 20:26
  But
• 20:26
  there's
• 20:26
  a
• 20:26
  deeper
• 20:27
  spiritual
• 20:27
  understanding
• 20:28
  of
• 20:28
  what
• 20:28
  that
• 20:28
  really
• 20:28
  means.
• 20:29
  And
• 20:30
  so
• 20:30
  there
• 20:30
  is
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  direct
• 20:31
  assault
• 20:32
  on
• 20:32
  that.
• 20:33
  There
• 20:33
  is
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  idea
• 20:34
  that
• 20:34
  there
• 20:35
  is
• 20:35
  an
• 20:35
  other.
• 20:36
  There
• 20:36
  is
• 20:36
  an
• 20:36
  idea
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  the
• 20:37
  others
• 20:37
  are.
• 20:37
  Its
• 20:38
  that
• 20:38
  they're
• 20:38
  scum,
• 20:39
  that
• 20:39
  they
• 20:40
  are
• 20:40
  less
• 20:40
  worthy.
• 20:41
  There's
• 20:42
  an
• 20:42
  idea
• 20:42
  that
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  must
• 20:43
  just
• 20:44
  benefit
• 20:44
  myself.
• 20:45
  The
• 20:45
  idea
• 20:45
  of
• 20:45
  just
• 20:46
  drill,
• 20:46
  baby,
• 20:46
  drill.
• 20:47
  At
• 20:47
  what
• 20:48
  cost?
• 20:48
  Without
• 20:49
  any
• 20:49
  context
• 20:50
  in
• 20:50
  terms
• 20:51
  of,
• 20:51
  Roger,
• 20:51
  what
• 20:52
  you
• 20:52
  said
• 20:52
  earlier
• 20:52
  about
• 20:53
  Medicare
• 20:54
  and
• 20:54
  Medicaid,
• 20:55
  serving
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  poor,
• 20:56
  serving
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  needy,
• 20:57
  serving
• 20:58
  those,
• 20:58
  you
• 20:59
  know,
• 20:59
  what
• 20:59
  is
• 20:59
  our
• 20:59
  obligation
• 21:00
  to
• 21:00
  each
• 21:00
  other
• 21:00
  as
• 21:01
  a
• 21:01
  people?
• 21:02
  And
• 21:02
  I
• 21:02
  think
• 21:02
  we,
• 21:03
  through
• 21:03
  our
• 21:04
  spiritual
• 21:04
  work
• 21:05
  and
• 21:05
  understanding,
• 21:06
  know
• 21:06
  what
• 21:06
  that
• 21:06
  is.
• 21:07
  It's
• 21:07
  essential
• 21:08
  to
• 21:09
  be
• 21:09
  there
• 21:09
  for
• 21:09
  others.
• 21:10
  It's
• 21:11
  essential
• 21:11
  because
• 21:12
  they
• 21:12
  are
• 21:13
  us
• 21:13
  and
• 21:13
  we
• 21:13
  are
• 21:14
  them.
• 21:14
  So
• 21:15
  much
• 21:15
  is
• 21:15
  on
• 21:16
  the
• 21:16
  line,
• 21:16
  beyond
• 21:18
  democracy.
• 21:19
  Yeah.
• 21:19
  The
• 21:19
  sacredness
• 21:20
  of
• 21:20
  every
• 21:20
  individual,
• 21:21
  you
• 21:22
  know,
• 21:22
  every
• 21:23
  individual,
• 21:23
  like
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  Hindus,
• 21:24
  a
• 21:24
  namaste.
• 21:25
  You
• 21:25
  know,
• 21:25
  I
• 21:25
  honor
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  divinity
• 21:26
  within
• 21:27
  you.
• 21:27
  And
• 21:28
  fascism
• 21:28
  doesn't
• 21:29
  go
• 21:29
  for
• 21:29
  that.
• 21:29
  You
• 21:29
  know,
• 21:31
  I
• 21:31
  really
• 21:32
  appreciate
• 21:32
  you
• 21:32
  bringing
• 21:33
  in,
• 21:33
  both
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  you
• 21:34
  bringing
• 21:34
  in
• 21:34
  this
• 21:35
  level
• 21:35
  of
• 21:36
  reflection
• 21:37
  on
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  fundamental
• 21:38
  values
• 21:39
  and
• 21:39
  aspirations
• 21:40
  that
• 21:40
  animate
• 21:41
  at
• 21:41
  its
• 21:42
  best,
• 21:42
  democracy
• 21:43
  and
• 21:44
  a
• 21:44
  care
• 21:45
  for
• 21:45
  people.
• 21:45
  And
• 21:46
  that,
• 21:47
  yes,
• 21:47
  democracy
• 21:48
  is
• 21:48
  under
• 21:49
  threat,
• 21:49
  but
• 21:49
  also
• 21:50
  deeper
• 21:50
  values.
• 21:51
  That's
• 21:51
  what
• 21:51
  you're
• 21:51
  both
• 21:52
  pointing
• 21:52
  to
• 21:52
  here,
• 21:52
  that
• 21:53
  there
• 21:53
  are
• 21:54
  really
• 21:54
  fundamental
• 21:55
  values
• 21:55
  about
• 21:55
  the
• 21:56
  worth
• 21:56
  each
• 21:56
  human
• 21:57
  being,
• 21:58
  our
• 21:58
  obligation
• 21:59
  and
• 21:59
  our
• 22:00
  call
• 22:00
  to
• 22:01
  treat
• 22:01
  each
• 22:02
  other
• 22:02
  with
• 22:03
  care
• 22:03
  and
• 22:03
  love
• 22:04
  and
• 22:04
  respect
• 22:04
  and
• 22:05
  dignity.
• 22:06
  And
• 22:06
  yes,
• 22:07
  justice
• 22:08
  needs
• 22:08
  to
• 22:08
  be
• 22:09
  done
• 22:09
  and
• 22:10
  justice
• 22:11
  and
• 22:12
  mercy
• 22:13
  in
• 22:13
  balance.
• 22:14
  Yes.
• 22:15
  No,
• 22:15
  it's
• 22:16
  beautifully
• 22:16
  said.
• 22:17
  And
• 22:18
  so,
• 22:18
  you
• 22:18
  know,
• 22:18
  we.
• 22:19
  There
• 22:19
  is
• 22:20
  much
• 22:20
  work
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  do
• 22:20
  and
• 22:21
  to
• 22:22
  go
• 22:22
  back
• 22:23
  to.
• 22:24
  There
• 22:24
  are
• 22:25
  always
• 22:25
  partial
• 22:25
  truths.
• 22:26
  From
• 22:26
  an
• 22:26
  integral
• 22:27
  perspective.
• 22:29
  President
• 22:29
  Trump
• 22:30
  has
• 22:31
  made
• 22:31
  some
• 22:32
  really
• 22:32
  important
• 22:32
  points
• 22:33
  that
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  Democratic
• 22:35
  Party
• 22:36
  has
• 22:37
  not
• 22:37
  related
• 22:39
  very
• 22:39
  well
• 22:39
  to
• 22:40
  the
• 22:40
  working
• 22:41
  class,
• 22:42
  has
• 22:42
  not
• 22:42
  been
• 22:43
  able
• 22:43
  to
• 22:43
  connect
• 22:44
  on
• 22:44
  a
• 22:45
  level
• 22:45
  with
• 22:46
  those
• 22:46
  that
• 22:47
  aren't
• 22:47
  in
• 22:48
  technology,
• 22:48
  aren't
• 22:49
  at
• 22:50
  the
• 22:50
  elite
• 22:51
  coasts
• 22:52
  of
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  United,
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  golden
• 22:53
  coasts
• 22:53
  and
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  east
• 22:54
  coast,
• 22:55
  and
• 22:55
  has
• 22:56
  just
• 22:56
  been
• 22:56
  lock,
• 22:57
  stock
• 22:57
  and
• 22:57
  barrel
• 22:58
  over,
• 22:59
  you
• 23:00
  know,
• 23:00
  Trump's
• 23:00
  commercial,
• 23:01
  won
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  election
• 23:03
  during
• 23:04
  football
• 23:04
  games
• 23:05
  there
• 23:05
  with
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  transgender
• 23:07
  stuff.
• 23:07
  And
• 23:07
  that's
• 23:08
  not
• 23:08
  anything
• 23:09
  against
• 23:09
  being
• 23:10
  transgender,
• 23:11
  but
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  lock
• 23:12
  stop
• 23:13
  nature
• 23:13
  of
• 23:14
  not
• 23:15
  even
• 23:15
  reflecting
• 23:16
  on
• 23:17
  whether
• 23:18
  it's
• 23:18
  fair,
• 23:19
  inherent
• 23:20
  notions
• 23:20
  of
• 23:20
  fairness.
• 23:21
  Couldn't
• 23:21
  even
• 23:21
  talk
• 23:21
  about
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  inherent
• 23:23
  notions
• 23:23
  of
• 23:23
  fairness
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  having
• 23:25
  transgender
• 23:26
  athletes
• 23:26
  that
• 23:27
  were
• 23:28
  male
• 23:28
  competing
• 23:29
  in
• 23:29
  female
• 23:29
  sports.
• 23:31
  Wouldn't
• 23:32
  talk
• 23:32
  about
• 23:32
  it.
• 23:33
  And
• 23:34
  it's
• 23:34
  so
• 23:34
  obvious.
• 23:35
  Right.
• 23:36
  And
• 23:36
  it
• 23:37
  was
• 23:37
  just
• 23:37
  easy,
• 23:38
  easy
• 23:39
  stuff
• 23:39
  for
• 23:39
  him
• 23:39
  to
• 23:40
  hit
• 23:40
  out
• 23:40
  of
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  ballpark
• 23:41
  and
• 23:41
  make
• 23:42
  fun
• 23:42
  of
• 23:42
  and
• 23:43
  show
• 23:43
  how,
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  know,
• 23:45
  we're
• 23:45
  not
• 23:45
  relating.
• 23:46
  Right.
• 23:46
  You
• 23:46
  know,
• 23:47
  otter
• 23:47
  for
• 23:48
  fascist
• 23:48
  takeover
• 23:49
  and
• 23:49
  the
• 23:49
  whole
• 23:50
  LGBTQ
• 23:51
  thing,
• 23:51
  I
• 23:51
  mean,
• 23:51
  the
• 23:52
  left
• 23:52
  is
• 23:52
  really
• 23:52
  aired
• 23:53
  in
• 23:53
  that
• 23:53
  you
• 23:54
  can't
• 23:54
  take
• 23:54
  ideas
• 23:55
  that
• 23:55
  are
• 23:55
  way
• 23:56
  developmentally
• 23:57
  beyond
• 23:58
  what
• 23:58
  people,
• 23:59
  normal
• 23:59
  people
• 23:59
  in
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  street
• 24:00
  and
• 24:00
  try
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  shove
• 24:00
  it
• 24:00
  down
• 24:01
  their
• 24:01
  throats
• 24:01
  because
• 24:02
  you
• 24:02
  so
• 24:02
  sure
• 24:03
  it's
• 24:03
  right,
• 24:04
  and
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  have
• 24:04
  no
• 24:04
  problem
• 24:04
  with
• 24:05
  that.
• 24:05
  But,
• 24:05
  you
• 24:05
  know,
• 24:07
  working
• 24:07
  class
• 24:08
  people,
• 24:08
  Christians,
• 24:09
  they're
• 24:10
  not
• 24:10
  ready
• 24:10
  for
• 24:10
  that.
• 24:10
  And
• 24:11
  so
• 24:11
  when
• 24:11
  you
• 24:11
  try
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  force
• 24:12
  this
• 24:12
  stuff
• 24:12
  down
• 24:12
  their
• 24:13
  throats
• 24:13
  and
• 24:13
  they're
• 24:13
  not
• 24:14
  ready
• 24:14
  for
• 24:14
  it,
• 24:14
  you
• 24:14
  push
• 24:15
  them
• 24:15
  toward
• 24:16
  this
• 24:17
  authoritarian
• 24:17
  thing.
• 24:18
  And.
• 24:19
  And
• 24:19
  if
• 24:19
  you
• 24:19
  want
• 24:20
  me
• 24:20
  to
• 24:20
  call
• 24:20
  you
• 24:20
  by
• 24:20
  a
• 24:20
  different
• 24:20
  pronoun
• 24:21
  and
• 24:21
  that,
• 24:22
  sure,
• 24:22
  brother,
• 24:22
  you
• 24:23
  know,
• 24:23
  sister,
• 24:23
  whatever,
• 24:24
  it's
• 24:24
  all
• 24:25
  good.
• 24:25
  But
• 24:25
  don't
• 24:26
  try
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  force
• 24:26
  it
• 24:27
  down
• 24:27
  people.
• 24:27
  And
• 24:28
  it
• 24:28
  just
• 24:28
  made
• 24:28
  it
• 24:28
  so
• 24:29
  easy
• 24:30
  for
• 24:30
  us
• 24:30
  to
• 24:31
  get
• 24:31
  to
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  point
• 24:31
  where
• 24:32
  we're
• 24:33
  about
• 24:33
  to
• 24:33
  lose
• 24:33
  Our
• 24:33
  democracy.
• 24:34
  You
• 24:35
  know,
• 24:35
  and,
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  know,
• 24:35
  this
• 24:36
  immigration
• 24:36
  stuff,
• 24:37
  it's
• 24:37
  there.
• 24:38
  You
• 24:39
  know,
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  have
• 24:40
  friends
• 24:40
  that
• 24:41
  live
• 24:41
  in
• 24:42
  la
• 24:42
  and,
• 24:43
  you
• 24:43
  know,
• 24:44
  there
• 24:44
  are.
• 24:45
  Jeff
• 24:45
  Salzman
• 24:46
  promoted
• 24:46
  a.
• 24:47
  A
• 24:47
  tweet
• 24:48
  on
• 24:48
  Twitter
• 24:49
  or
• 24:49
  X
• 24:49
  or
• 24:50
  whatever
• 24:50
  it's
• 24:50
  called
• 24:50
  now,
• 24:51
  that
• 24:51
  showed
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  complexity
• 24:52
  of
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  issue
• 24:53
  that
• 24:54
  the
• 24:55
  Democratic
• 24:55
  Party
• 24:55
  ignored
• 24:56
  for
• 24:56
  a
• 24:57
  while,
• 24:57
  that
• 24:57
  some
• 24:57
  of
• 24:57
  these
• 24:57
  communities,
• 24:58
  you
• 24:58
  know,
• 24:59
  there's
• 24:59
  beautiful
• 24:59
  things
• 24:59
  that
• 25:00
  are
• 25:00
  happening
• 25:00
  with
• 25:00
  some
• 25:00
  of
• 25:01
  our
• 25:01
  undocumented
• 25:02
  folks
• 25:03
  that
• 25:03
  are
• 25:03
  doing
• 25:03
  incredible
• 25:04
  work
• 25:05
  and
• 25:05
  not
• 25:05
  committing
• 25:06
  crimes.
• 25:07
  And
• 25:07
  there
• 25:08
  are
• 25:08
  also
• 25:08
  other
• 25:09
  communities
• 25:09
  that
• 25:09
  have
• 25:09
  been
• 25:10
  devastated
• 25:10
  and
• 25:11
  decimated
• 25:12
  in
• 25:12
  the
• 25:12
  process.
• 25:13
  And
• 25:14
  again,
• 25:14
  it
• 25:14
  just
• 25:15
  couldn't
• 25:15
  be
• 25:15
  talked
• 25:16
  about.
• 25:17
  And
• 25:17
  we
• 25:17
  haven't
• 25:18
  had
• 25:18
  that.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:18
  so,
• 25:19
  you
• 25:19
  know,
• 25:20
  what
• 25:20
  I
• 25:20
  see
• 25:21
  is
• 25:22
  that
• 25:22
  we're
• 25:23
  really
• 25:24
  some
• 25:24
  of
• 25:24
  the
• 25:24
  left,
• 25:25
  if
• 25:25
  we
• 25:25
  go
• 25:26
  back
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  spiral,
• 25:28
  reflects
• 25:28
  some
• 25:28
  of
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  kind
• 25:29
  of
• 25:29
  postmodern
• 25:30
  green
• 25:31
  values,
• 25:32
  and
• 25:32
  that
• 25:33
  there
• 25:33
  is
• 25:33
  an
• 25:33
  opportunity
• 25:34
  here
• 25:34
  with
• 25:35
  all
• 25:35
  that's
• 25:35
  at
• 25:36
  stake,
• 25:36
  to
• 25:37
  maybe
• 25:37
  catapult
• 25:38
  possibly
• 25:39
  that
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  leading
• 25:41
  edge,
• 25:41
  instead
• 25:41
  of
• 25:42
  being
• 25:43
  from
• 25:43
  that
• 25:44
  postmodern
• 25:44
  perspective,
• 25:45
  becomes
• 25:46
  from
• 25:47
  a
• 25:47
  metamodern
• 25:48
  or
• 25:49
  integral
• 25:50
  perspective
• 25:51
  that
• 25:51
  actually
• 25:51
  sees
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  partial
• 25:54
  perspectives
• 25:55
  and
• 25:55
  is
• 25:55
  able
• 25:56
  to
• 25:56
  make
• 25:56
  greater
• 25:56
  sense
• 25:57
  of
• 25:57
  them,
• 25:57
  able
• 25:58
  to
• 25:58
  speak
• 25:59
  to
• 25:59
  all
• 25:59
  spectrums
• 26:00
  of
• 26:00
  consciousness
• 26:01
  and
• 26:02
  relate
• 26:02
  with
• 26:03
  beings
• 26:04
  in
• 26:04
  ways
• 26:04
  that
• 26:05
  are
• 26:05
  authentic
• 26:06
  and
• 26:06
  not
• 26:06
  alienating.
• 26:07
  You
• 26:07
  know,
• 26:07
  if
• 26:07
  you
• 26:07
  can't.
• 26:08
  If
• 26:08
  it's
• 26:09
  said
• 26:09
  based
• 26:10
  on
• 26:10
  your
• 26:10
  handlers
• 26:11
  that
• 26:11
  you
• 26:11
  can
• 26:11
  only
• 26:12
  go
• 26:12
  on
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  View
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  you
• 26:13
  can't
• 26:14
  go
• 26:14
  on
• 26:14
  Joe
• 26:14
  Rogan,
• 26:15
  then
• 26:16
  we
• 26:16
  have
• 26:17
  a
• 26:17
  problem.
• 26:19
  And
• 26:19
  so
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  think
• 26:21
  there
• 26:21
  is
• 26:21
  this
• 26:21
  small
• 26:22
  window
• 26:23
  of
• 26:23
  possibility
• 26:25
  we
• 26:25
  could
• 26:25
  maybe
• 26:26
  move
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  a
• 26:28
  higher
• 26:28
  stage
• 26:28
  of
• 26:29
  understanding
• 26:29
  in
• 26:29
  terms
• 26:30
  of
• 26:30
  at
• 26:30
  least
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  leading
• 26:31
  edge
• 26:31
  being
• 26:32
  more
• 26:32
  populated
• 26:32
  with
• 26:33
  folks
• 26:33
  that
• 26:33
  see
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  partial
• 26:34
  truths,
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  see
• 26:35
  the
• 26:36
  depth,
• 26:36
  that
• 26:36
  see
• 26:37
  the
• 26:37
  spiritual
• 26:38
  issues
• 26:39
  in
• 26:39
  play.
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  know
• 26:41
  Rob
• 26:41
  Smith
• 26:41
  from
• 26:42
  Integral
• 26:42
  Life
• 26:43
  has
• 26:43
  talked
• 26:43
  about
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  Great
• 26:44
  Release
• 26:45
  and
• 26:45
  those
• 26:46
  kinds
• 26:46
  of
• 26:46
  possibilities,
• 26:48
  but
• 26:48
  it's
• 26:48
  scary.
• 26:49
  This
• 26:49
  is
• 26:49
  a
• 26:49
  very
• 26:50
  scary
• 26:50
  moment
• 26:51
  because
• 26:52
  all
• 26:52
  we've
• 26:52
  been
• 26:52
  describing
• 26:53
  in
• 26:53
  many
• 26:53
  ways
• 26:54
  are
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  possibility
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  true
• 26:57
  regression.
• 26:57
  And
• 26:57
  we're
• 26:58
  seeing
• 26:58
  some
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  that.
• 26:58
  Courts
• 27:00
  have
• 27:00
  held
• 27:00
  up
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  kind
• 27:02
  of
• 27:02
  smack
• 27:03
  down
• 27:03
  all
• 27:04
  these
• 27:04
  kind
• 27:04
  of
• 27:04
  executive
• 27:05
  orders
• 27:06
  that
• 27:06
  are
• 27:06
  illegal,
• 27:07
  because
• 27:08
  these
• 27:08
  acts
• 27:09
  really
• 27:09
  need
• 27:09
  to
• 27:09
  be
• 27:10
  coming
• 27:10
  from
• 27:10
  Congress
• 27:11
  or
• 27:11
  their
• 27:12
  First
• 27:12
  Amendment
• 27:13
  violations,
• 27:14
  et
• 27:14
  cetera,
• 27:15
  as
• 27:15
  I
• 27:15
  described.
• 27:16
  But
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  courts
• 27:18
  don't
• 27:19
  enforce
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  laws,
• 27:21
  so
• 27:22
  you
• 27:22
  need
• 27:22
  a
• 27:22
  cooperative
• 27:23
  executive
• 27:25
  to
• 27:26
  do
• 27:26
  that.
• 27:26
  And
• 27:28
  we
• 27:28
  saw
• 27:28
  in
• 27:28
  one
• 27:28
  of
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  immigration
• 27:29
  cases
• 27:30
  that
• 27:31
  they
• 27:31
  took
• 27:31
  a
• 27:31
  long
• 27:32
  time
• 27:32
  to
• 27:32
  cooperate
• 27:33
  before
• 27:34
  they
• 27:34
  brought
• 27:34
  that
• 27:34
  man
• 27:35
  back
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  United
• 27:36
  States.
• 27:37
  I
• 27:37
  think
• 27:37
  it
• 27:37
  was
• 27:37
  last
• 27:38
  Sunday
• 27:38
  that
• 27:39
  he
• 27:39
  was
• 27:39
  finally
• 27:39
  brought
• 27:40
  back
• 27:41
  after
• 27:41
  the
• 27:41
  Supreme
• 27:42
  Court
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  United
• 27:42
  States
• 27:43
  enrolled
• 27:43
  months
• 27:44
  ago
• 27:44
  that
• 27:45
  you.
• 27:46
  That
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  lower
• 27:47
  court
• 27:47
  did
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  right
• 27:47
  thing
• 27:48
  and
• 27:48
  you
• 27:48
  need
• 27:48
  to
• 27:48
  bring
• 27:48
  them.
• 27:49
  Back
• 27:49
  and
• 27:51
  they're
• 27:51
  trying
• 27:51
  to
• 27:52
  prosecute
• 27:52
  him
• 27:53
  now
• 27:53
  because
• 27:54
  he
• 27:54
  drove
• 27:55
  some
• 27:56
  undocumented
• 27:58
  immigrants
• 27:58
  from
• 27:59
  one
• 27:59
  workplace
• 27:59
  to
• 28:00
  another
• 28:00
  and
• 28:00
  they're
• 28:01
  trying
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  throw
• 28:01
  him
• 28:01
  in
• 28:01
  jail
• 28:01
  for
• 28:02
  that
• 28:02
  act.
• 28:03
  One
• 28:03
  thing
• 28:03
  I'd
• 28:03
  like
• 28:04
  to
• 28:04
  point,
• 28:04
  I'd
• 28:05
  like
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  get
• 28:05
  in.
• 28:05
  I
• 28:06
  think
• 28:06
  I've
• 28:07
  been
• 28:07
  using
• 28:07
  ChatGPT
• 28:08
  for
• 28:08
  a
• 28:08
  while
• 28:08
  and
• 28:08
  I,
• 28:09
  you
• 28:09
  know,
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  have
• 28:10
  just
• 28:10
  keep
• 28:11
  deepening
• 28:11
  conversation
• 28:12
  and
• 28:12
  yes,
• 28:12
  it's
• 28:13
  not
• 28:13
  perfect,
• 28:13
  but
• 28:14
  it's
• 28:14
  unlike
• 28:14
  any
• 28:15
  technology
• 28:15
  we
• 28:15
  ever
• 28:16
  have.
• 28:16
  So
• 28:16
  I'd
• 28:17
  recommend
• 28:17
  everyone
• 28:18
  to
• 28:19
  have
• 28:20
  AI
• 28:20
  to
• 28:21
  summarize
• 28:22
  the
• 28:23
  project
• 28:23
  2025
• 28:24
  to
• 28:25
  summarize
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  big
• 28:26
  beautiful
• 28:27
  bill.
• 28:27
  You
• 28:28
  know,
• 28:28
  what
• 28:28
  are
• 28:28
  the
• 28:28
  main
• 28:28
  points
• 28:29
  you're
• 28:29
  trying
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  get
• 28:29
  through
• 28:30
  here?
• 28:30
  What's
• 28:30
  included?
• 28:31
  And
• 28:31
  you
• 28:31
  can
• 28:31
  read
• 28:32
  that,
• 28:32
  you
• 28:32
  know,
• 28:32
  and
• 28:32
  get
• 28:32
  down
• 28:33
  to
• 28:33
  it
• 28:33
  and
• 28:33
  maybe
• 28:33
  you
• 28:33
  think,
• 28:33
  oh
• 28:34
  this
• 28:34
  is
• 28:34
  a
• 28:34
  great
• 28:34
  idea,
• 28:35
  you
• 28:35
  want
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  call
• 28:35
  your
• 28:36
  senator,
• 28:36
  please
• 28:36
  vote
• 28:36
  for
• 28:37
  this
• 28:37
  or
• 28:37
  you
• 28:37
  may
• 28:38
  not.
• 28:38
  And
• 28:39
  in
• 28:39
  that
• 28:39
  case
• 28:39
  you
• 28:39
  have
• 28:39
  to
• 28:40
  make
• 28:40
  your
• 28:40
  voice
• 28:40
  known.
• 28:41
  It's
• 28:41
  the
• 28:42
  big
• 28:42
  beautiful
• 28:43
  bill
• 28:43
  went,
• 28:43
  was
• 28:44
  voted
• 28:44
  on
• 28:44
  at
• 28:44
  night
• 28:45
  in
• 28:45
  the
• 28:45
  Congress
• 28:46
  one
• 28:46
  day
• 28:47
  nobody
• 28:47
  had
• 28:47
  a
• 28:47
  chance
• 28:47
  to
• 28:47
  read
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  thousand
• 28:48
  pages,
• 28:49
  just,
• 28:49
  you
• 28:49
  know,
• 28:50
  rubber
• 28:51
  stamp
• 28:52
  Congress.
• 28:52
  Trump
• 28:53
  said
• 28:53
  so.
• 28:53
  So
• 28:53
  they
• 28:53
  did.
• 28:54
  But
• 28:55
  now
• 28:55
  the
• 28:55
  Senate
• 28:55
  is
• 28:55
  starting
• 28:56
  to
• 28:56
  have
• 28:56
  problems
• 28:57
  because
• 28:57
  the
• 28:57
  content
• 28:58
  is
• 28:58
  actually
• 28:59
  starting
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  come
• 28:59
  out
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  we
• 29:01
  need
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  educate
• 29:02
  ourselves
• 29:02
  and,
• 29:02
  and
• 29:03
  fact
• 29:03
  check
• 29:03
  everything.
• 29:04
  And
• 29:04
  don't
• 29:04
  take
• 29:04
  my
• 29:04
  word
• 29:05
  for
• 29:05
  it,
• 29:05
  you
• 29:05
  know,
• 29:06
  if
• 29:06
  something
• 29:06
  I
• 29:07
  say
• 29:07
  doesn't
• 29:07
  feel
• 29:07
  real,
• 29:08
  you
• 29:08
  that
• 29:08
  we
• 29:08
  have
• 29:08
  the
• 29:08
  technology
• 29:09
  now
• 29:09
  where
• 29:09
  we
• 29:10
  can
• 29:10
  really
• 29:10
  look
• 29:10
  into
• 29:10
  these
• 29:11
  things
• 29:11
  and
• 29:11
  see,
• 29:12
  see
• 29:12
  what
• 29:13
  we
• 29:13
  need
• 29:13
  to
• 29:13
  know
• 29:13
  to
• 29:14
  be,
• 29:14
  to
• 29:14
  be
• 29:15
  citizens,
• 29:16
  to
• 29:16
  be
• 29:16
  human
• 29:16
  beings,
• 29:17
  to,
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  act
• 29:19
  in
• 29:19
  a
• 29:19
  way
• 29:19
  that's
• 29:20
  responsible,
• 29:20
  compassionate,
• 29:21
  wise
• 29:21
  and
• 29:23
  strong.
• 29:24
  So
• 29:25
  part
• 29:25
  of
• 29:25
  our
• 29:25
  response
• 29:26
  here
• 29:26
  and
• 29:26
  coming,
• 29:27
  I'm
• 29:27
  looking
• 29:28
  for
• 29:28
  what
• 29:28
  the
• 29:29
  responses
• 29:29
  that
• 29:29
  are
• 29:29
  called
• 29:30
  for.
• 29:31
  Promise
• 29:31
  all
• 29:32
  is
• 29:32
  what
• 29:33
  you're
• 29:33
  saying
• 29:33
  John
• 29:33
  is
• 29:34
  education.
• 29:34
  And
• 29:35
  you've
• 29:35
  also
• 29:35
  said,
• 29:36
  John,
• 29:37
  courage.
• 29:38
  Both
• 29:38
  of
• 29:38
  you
• 29:38
  talk
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  the
• 29:39
  necessity
• 29:40
  of
• 29:40
  courage
• 29:40
  at
• 29:40
  this
• 29:40
  time
• 29:42
  and
• 29:43
  involvement.
• 29:44
  And
• 29:44
  there's
• 29:45
  a
• 29:45
  lot
• 29:45
  talked
• 29:45
  about
• 29:46
  right
• 29:47
  now
• 29:47
  about
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  studies,
• 29:49
  comparative
• 29:49
  studies
• 29:50
  across
• 29:50
  societies
• 29:50
  on
• 29:51
  the
• 29:51
  percentage
• 29:52
  of
• 29:52
  a
• 29:52
  population
• 29:52
  which
• 29:52
  needs
• 29:53
  to
• 29:53
  be
• 29:53
  deeply
• 29:53
  involved
• 29:54
  in
• 29:54
  a
• 29:54
  social
• 29:54
  movement
• 29:55
  to
• 29:56
  have
• 29:56
  effect
• 29:57
  and
• 29:57
  the
• 29:57
  figure
• 29:58
  the
• 29:58
  research
• 29:58
  suggests
• 29:59
  around
• 29:59
  at
• 30:00
  least
• 30:00
  3
• 30:00
  or
• 30:01
  4%
• 30:01
  of
• 30:01
  the
• 30:01
  population
• 30:02
  has
• 30:02
  to
• 30:02
  be
• 30:02
  actively
• 30:03
  involved
• 30:03
  in
• 30:04
  a
• 30:04
  movement.
• 30:05
  So
• 30:06
  if
• 30:06
  we
• 30:06
  are
• 30:06
  to,
• 30:07
  it
• 30:08
  seems
• 30:08
  like
• 30:08
  we're
• 30:08
  called
• 30:09
  to
• 30:09
  work
• 30:10
  towards
• 30:10
  preserving
• 30:11
  our
• 30:12
  democracy,
• 30:13
  towards
• 30:13
  preserving
• 30:14
  the
• 30:15
  underlying
• 30:16
  values
• 30:16
  and
• 30:17
  I
• 30:17
  really
• 30:17
  thank
• 30:17
  you
• 30:17
  both
• 30:18
  for
• 30:18
  emphasizing
• 30:19
  those.
• 30:20
  It's
• 30:21
  going
• 30:21
  to
• 30:21
  take
• 30:21
  all
• 30:21
  of
• 30:22
  us
• 30:22
  and
• 30:23
  as
• 30:23
  we're
• 30:23
  coming
• 30:23
  towards
• 30:24
  the
• 30:24
  end
• 30:24
  of
• 30:24
  our
• 30:24
  time.
• 30:24
  But
• 30:25
  Mark,
• 30:25
  is
• 30:25
  there
• 30:26
  anything
• 30:26
  else
• 30:26
  you'd
• 30:26
  like
• 30:26
  to
• 30:27
  add?
• 30:29
  Well,
• 30:29
  to
• 30:29
  go
• 30:30
  back
• 30:30
  to
• 30:30
  John's
• 30:31
  point,
• 30:32
  Jefferson,
• 30:34
  if
• 30:34
  you
• 30:34
  ever
• 30:34
  go
• 30:34
  to
• 30:34
  Monticello,
• 30:36
  you
• 30:36
  can
• 30:36
  look
• 30:37
  down
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  you
• 30:37
  could
• 30:37
  see
• 30:37
  the
• 30:38
  University
• 30:38
  of
• 30:38
  Virginia.
• 30:39
  And
• 30:40
  he
• 30:40
  was
• 30:40
  also
• 30:42
  created
• 30:43
  West
• 30:43
  Point.
• 30:44
  And
• 30:45
  Jefferson
• 30:47
  read
• 30:48
  Plato
• 30:48
  and
• 30:48
  Socrates
• 30:50
  probably
• 30:51
  when
• 30:51
  he
• 30:51
  was
• 30:51
  15
• 30:52
  at
• 30:52
  William
• 30:53
  and
• 30:53
  Mary,
• 30:54
  read
• 30:54
  it
• 30:54
  in
• 30:54
  ancient
• 30:55
  Greek.
• 30:56
  But
• 30:56
  he
• 30:56
  saw
• 30:58
  their
• 30:59
  criticism
• 31:00
  of
• 31:00
  democracy.
• 31:02
  And
• 31:03
  I
• 31:03
  think
• 31:05
  his
• 31:06
  answer
• 31:07
  to
• 31:07
  them,
• 31:08
  because
• 31:08
  let's
• 31:09
  not
• 31:09
  forget
• 31:09
  a
• 31:09
  democracy
• 31:10
  killed
• 31:10
  Socrates.
• 31:11
  But
• 31:12
  his
• 31:12
  answer
• 31:13
  to
• 31:13
  that
• 31:14
  was
• 31:14
  that
• 31:14
  if
• 31:15
  we
• 31:15
  create
• 31:15
  an
• 31:15
  educated
• 31:16
  public,
• 31:18
  then
• 31:19
  an
• 31:20
  educated
• 31:20
  citizenry,
• 31:22
  then
• 31:24
  we'll
• 31:24
  have
• 31:24
  folks
• 31:25
  that
• 31:25
  are
• 31:26
  wise
• 31:26
  enough
• 31:27
  and
• 31:28
  to
• 31:28
  be
• 31:28
  critical
• 31:29
  thinkers
• 31:29
  enough
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  do
• 31:30
  the
• 31:30
  fact
• 31:31
  checking,
• 31:31
  to
• 31:31
  do
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  research,
• 31:33
  to
• 31:33
  contribute
• 31:34
  to
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  greater
• 31:35
  good
• 31:35
  of
• 31:35
  our
• 31:36
  society.
• 31:37
  And
• 31:37
  so
• 31:37
  I
• 31:38
  want
• 31:38
  to
• 31:39
  reemphasize
• 31:40
  the
• 31:40
  importance
• 31:41
  of
• 31:42
  fact
• 31:43
  checking,
• 31:44
  of
• 31:44
  being
• 31:44
  a
• 31:44
  critical
• 31:45
  thinker.
• 31:46
  And
• 31:46
  really,
• 31:47
  you
• 31:47
  don't
• 31:47
  have
• 31:47
  to
• 31:48
  go
• 31:48
  to
• 31:48
  school
• 31:48
  to
• 31:48
  do
• 31:48
  it.
• 31:49
  You
• 31:49
  know,
• 31:50
  one
• 31:50
  of
• 31:50
  my
• 31:51
  favorite
• 31:51
  books
• 31:51
  is
• 31:51
  a
• 31:52
  book
• 31:52
  by
• 31:52
  Ivan
• 31:52
  Ilik
• 31:53
  called
• 31:53
  Deschooling
• 31:55
  Society.
• 31:56
  And
• 31:56
  it's
• 31:57
  a
• 31:57
  great
• 31:57
  approach
• 31:58
  where,
• 31:59
  you
• 31:59
  know,
• 31:59
  we
• 31:59
  can
• 32:00
  do
• 32:00
  intergenerational
• 32:01
  learning
• 32:02
  outside
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  classroom
• 32:05
  that
• 32:05
  gives
• 32:05
  you
• 32:05
  grades,
• 32:06
  etc.
• 32:07
  So,
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  know,
• 32:08
  I
• 32:08
  think
• 32:08
  that's
• 32:09
  important.
• 32:09
  I
• 32:10
  think
• 32:10
  for
• 32:10
  those
• 32:11
  of
• 32:11
  us
• 32:12
  that
• 32:12
  want
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  take
• 32:14
  to
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  streets
• 32:15
  or
• 32:15
  want
• 32:16
  to
• 32:16
  protest
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  speak
• 32:18
  out,
• 32:19
  I
• 32:19
  think
• 32:19
  there's
• 32:20
  a
• 32:20
  way
• 32:20
  to
• 32:20
  do
• 32:20
  it.
• 32:22
  And
• 32:22
  we'll
• 32:23
  go
• 32:23
  back
• 32:23
  to
• 32:24
  John's
• 32:25
  hero
• 32:25
  and
• 32:25
  my
• 32:25
  hero,
• 32:26
  and
• 32:26
  I'm
• 32:26
  sure,
• 32:27
  Roger,
• 32:28
  he's
• 32:28
  one
• 32:28
  of
• 32:28
  yours
• 32:29
  too,
• 32:29
  but
• 32:29
  Dr.
• 32:29
  King.
• 32:30
  And
• 32:31
  in
• 32:31
  the
• 32:31
  letter
• 32:31
  from
• 32:31
  the
• 32:32
  Birmingham
• 32:32
  jail,
• 32:32
  Dr.
• 32:33
  King
• 32:33
  described
• 32:34
  when
• 32:34
  he
• 32:35
  was
• 32:35
  criticized
• 32:35
  by
• 32:36
  the
• 32:37
  clergyman
• 32:38
  of
• 32:39
  Birmingham,
• 32:39
  Alabama,
• 32:40
  he
• 32:40
  was
• 32:40
  criticized
• 32:41
  for
• 32:41
  creating
• 32:42
  violence
• 32:42
  in
• 32:43
  the
• 32:43
  city.
• 32:44
  And
• 32:44
  so
• 32:44
  he
• 32:45
  answered
• 32:45
  it.
• 32:45
  And
• 32:45
  part
• 32:45
  of
• 32:46
  the
• 32:46
  way
• 32:46
  he
• 32:46
  answered
• 32:46
  it
• 32:47
  was
• 32:47
  by
• 32:47
  explaining
• 32:48
  the
• 32:48
  four
• 32:48
  steps
• 32:49
  of
• 32:49
  nonviolence
• 32:50
  that
• 32:51
  his
• 32:52
  followers
• 32:53
  followed
• 32:54
  before
• 32:54
  they
• 32:54
  ever
• 32:54
  participated
• 32:56
  in
• 32:56
  a
• 32:56
  march
• 32:57
  or
• 32:57
  a
• 32:57
  sit
• 32:58
  in
• 32:58
  at
• 32:59
  a
• 32:59
  restaurant
• 32:59
  or
• 33:00
  hotel.
• 33:01
  And
• 33:01
  so
• 33:01
  those
• 33:02
  four
• 33:02
  steps
• 33:02
  include
• 33:04
  collecting
• 33:04
  the
• 33:04
  facts.
• 33:06
  And
• 33:06
  so
• 33:06
  you
• 33:07
  know,
• 33:07
  which
• 33:08
  is
• 33:08
  a
• 33:08
  part
• 33:09
  of
• 33:09
  critical
• 33:09
  thinking,
• 33:10
  you
• 33:11
  better
• 33:11
  know
• 33:12
  what's
• 33:12
  really
• 33:12
  going
• 33:13
  on.
• 33:13
  Better
• 33:14
  be
• 33:14
  open
• 33:14
  to
• 33:14
  the
• 33:15
  possibility
• 33:15
  that
• 33:15
  you
• 33:15
  could
• 33:16
  be
• 33:16
  wrong.
• 33:17
  You
• 33:17
  better
• 33:17
  not
• 33:17
  have
• 33:18
  an
• 33:18
  agenda
• 33:19
  without
• 33:19
  understanding
• 33:20
  what
• 33:20
  are
• 33:20
  the
• 33:21
  facts.
• 33:21
  And
• 33:21
  you
• 33:22
  know,
• 33:22
  as
• 33:22
  an
• 33:23
  attorney
• 33:24
  in
• 33:24
  the
• 33:24
  old
• 33:24
  days
• 33:25
  when
• 33:25
  I
• 33:25
  was
• 33:25
  a
• 33:25
  public
• 33:25
  defender,
• 33:26
  I
• 33:26
  remember
• 33:27
  one
• 33:27
  of
• 33:27
  my
• 33:27
  mentors
• 33:28
  said
• 33:28
  to
• 33:29
  me,
• 33:29
  you
• 33:29
  know,
• 33:29
  facts,
• 33:29
  when
• 33:30
  cases
• 33:30
  mark,
• 33:31
  you
• 33:31
  know,
• 33:31
  you
• 33:32
  better
• 33:32
  get
• 33:32
  your
• 33:32
  facts
• 33:33
  straight
• 33:33
  and
• 33:34
  be
• 33:34
  clear
• 33:34
  with
• 33:35
  that.
• 33:35
  So
• 33:36
  I
• 33:36
  emphasize
• 33:36
  that
• 33:37
  that's
• 33:37
  one,
• 33:38
  two,
• 33:39
  after
• 33:39
  you
• 33:39
  get
• 33:39
  your
• 33:39
  facts
• 33:40
  clear,
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  know,
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  can
• 33:41
  enter
• 33:42
  into
• 33:42
  negotiation
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  that's
• 33:44
  an
• 33:44
  open
• 33:45
  hearted
• 33:45
  way
• 33:46
  of
• 33:46
  speaking
• 33:47
  to
• 33:47
  those
• 33:48
  in
• 33:48
  power
• 33:49
  that
• 33:49
  you
• 33:50
  know,
• 33:50
  after
• 33:50
  you
• 33:50
  gather
• 33:50
  the
• 33:51
  facts,
• 33:51
  that
• 33:51
  you
• 33:51
  believe
• 33:52
  an
• 33:52
  injustice
• 33:53
  has
• 33:53
  been
• 33:54
  done,
• 33:54
  that
• 33:55
  you
• 33:55
  speak
• 33:55
  to
• 33:55
  them
• 33:56
  and
• 33:57
  you
• 33:57
  don't
• 33:57
  take
• 33:58
  things
• 33:58
  personally
• 33:58
  and
• 33:59
  you
• 33:59
  enter
• 33:59
  with
• 34:00
  curiosity
• 34:00
  and
• 34:00
  love
• 34:01
  and
• 34:02
  realization
• 34:03
  of
• 34:03
  their
• 34:03
  dignity
• 34:04
  and
• 34:04
  worth
• 34:04
  as
• 34:04
  beings.
• 34:05
  And
• 34:05
  if
• 34:06
  that
• 34:06
  doesn't
• 34:06
  go
• 34:07
  well,
• 34:07
  well,
• 34:08
  then
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  take
• 34:09
  the
• 34:09
  next
• 34:09
  step,
• 34:11
  which
• 34:12
  he
• 34:12
  describes
• 34:12
  basically
• 34:13
  as
• 34:14
  self
• 34:15
  purification.
• 34:16
  And
• 34:17
  what
• 34:17
  he
• 34:17
  means
• 34:17
  by
• 34:17
  self
• 34:18
  purification
• 34:19
  is
• 34:19
  that
• 34:19
  you
• 34:19
  enter
• 34:19
  into
• 34:20
  contemplation.
• 34:21
  You
• 34:22
  see,
• 34:23
  as
• 34:24
  Jesus
• 34:24
  saw
• 34:25
  on
• 34:25
  the
• 34:26
  cross,
• 34:26
  that
• 34:26
  you
• 34:27
  forgive
• 34:27
  them
• 34:27
  for
• 34:27
  they
• 34:27
  know
• 34:28
  not
• 34:28
  what
• 34:28
  they've
• 34:28
  done,
• 34:28
  that
• 34:29
  you
• 34:29
  don't
• 34:29
  take
• 34:29
  anything
• 34:30
  personal,
• 34:31
  that
• 34:31
  you
• 34:32
  realize
• 34:32
  that
• 34:33
  those
• 34:33
  actions
• 34:34
  of
• 34:34
  others
• 34:34
  are
• 34:35
  not
• 34:35
  about
• 34:35
  them.
• 34:36
  And
• 34:36
  you
• 34:37
  see
• 34:38
  the
• 34:38
  universality,
• 34:39
  you
• 34:39
  see
• 34:39
  the
• 34:40
  oneness
• 34:40
  of
• 34:40
  all
• 34:40
  beings,
• 34:41
  and
• 34:41
  you
• 34:41
  enter
• 34:41
  into
• 34:42
  that
• 34:42
  state
• 34:43
  of
• 34:43
  reality
• 34:44
  so
• 34:44
  that
• 34:45
  if
• 34:45
  you
• 34:45
  do
• 34:45
  have
• 34:46
  to
• 34:46
  withstand
• 34:46
  blows,
• 34:47
  that
• 34:48
  you
• 34:48
  understand
• 34:50
  that
• 34:50
  it's
• 34:50
  not
• 34:51
  personal
• 34:52
  and
• 34:52
  you
• 34:52
  understand
• 34:53
  the
• 34:54
  greater
• 34:54
  picture
• 34:54
  of
• 34:54
  the
• 34:55
  situation.
• 34:56
  And
• 34:56
  after
• 34:56
  that,
• 34:57
  you
• 34:57
  enter
• 34:57
  into
• 34:58
  direct
• 34:58
  action.
• 34:59
  After
• 34:59
  you
• 34:59
  self
• 35:00
  purified,
• 35:00
  you've
• 35:01
  entered
• 35:01
  that
• 35:02
  state
• 35:02
  of
• 35:02
  awareness,
• 35:03
  then
• 35:03
  you
• 35:03
  take
• 35:04
  direct
• 35:04
  action.
• 35:05
  And
• 35:05
  so
• 35:07
  for
• 35:07
  those
• 35:08
  of
• 35:08
  us
• 35:08
  that
• 35:08
  are
• 35:09
  outraged,
• 35:11
  I
• 35:11
  just
• 35:12
  ask
• 35:13
  that
• 35:14
  you
• 35:14
  take
• 35:15
  these
• 35:15
  four
• 35:15
  basic
• 35:16
  steps
• 35:17
  for
• 35:17
  nonviolent
• 35:18
  action.
• 35:19
  And
• 35:19
  we
• 35:19
  understand
• 35:20
  the
• 35:20
  situation,
• 35:21
  and
• 35:22
  we
• 35:22
  understand
• 35:22
  that,
• 35:23
  you
• 35:23
  know,
• 35:24
  for
• 35:24
  those
• 35:24
  of
• 35:25
  us
• 35:25
  that
• 35:25
  are
• 35:25
  feeling
• 35:26
  like
• 35:26
  our
• 35:26
  democracy
• 35:27
  is
• 35:27
  under
• 35:27
  threat
• 35:27
  by
• 35:28
  certain
• 35:29
  populations,
• 35:30
  that
• 35:30
  we
• 35:30
  see
• 35:30
  them
• 35:30
  as
• 35:31
  our
• 35:31
  brothers
• 35:31
  and
• 35:31
  sisters,
• 35:32
  that
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  love
• 35:33
  you
• 35:34
  just
• 35:34
  as
• 35:34
  much
• 35:35
  as
• 35:35
  I
• 35:35
  love
• 35:36
  any
• 35:36
  other
• 35:36
  being.
• 35:37
  And
• 35:39
  so
• 35:40
  if
• 35:40
  we
• 35:40
  can
• 35:40
  enter
• 35:41
  that
• 35:41
  understanding,
• 35:42
  that
• 35:43
  state
• 35:43
  of
• 35:43
  reality,
• 35:44
  then
• 35:45
  I
• 35:45
  believe
• 35:46
  that
• 35:47
  karmically
• 35:48
  we
• 35:48
  can
• 35:48
  contribute
• 35:49
  to
• 35:50
  a
• 35:50
  higher
• 35:50
  purpose
• 35:51
  and
• 35:52
  create
• 35:53
  the
• 35:53
  energy
• 35:53
  necessary
• 35:54
  to
• 35:54
  take
• 35:55
  us
• 35:55
  to
• 35:55
  the
• 35:56
  next
• 35:56
  steps
• 35:57
  of
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  spectrum
• 35:58
  of
• 35:58
  consciousness.
• 35:59
  And
• 35:59
  that's
• 35:59
  going
• 36:00
  to
• 36:00
  take
• 36:02
  all
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  your
• 36:03
  listeners
• 36:04
  to
• 36:05
  come
• 36:05
  together
• 36:05
  and
• 36:06
  beyond
• 36:07
  with
• 36:07
  that
• 36:07
  understanding
• 36:08
  to
• 36:09
  achieve
• 36:09
  what
• 36:09
  I'm
• 36:10
  talking
• 36:10
  about.
• 36:10
  And
• 36:11
  so
• 36:11
  that's.
• 36:13
  That
• 36:13
  was
• 36:13
  what
• 36:13
  was
• 36:14
  on
• 36:14
  my
• 36:14
  mind.
• 36:14
  Roger.
• 36:15
  Beautiful.
• 36:16
  Yeah.
• 36:17
  Two
• 36:17
  little
• 36:17
  practical
• 36:18
  things
• 36:18
  I
• 36:18
  want
• 36:18
  to
• 36:18
  throw
• 36:19
  in
• 36:19
  there,
• 36:19
  because
• 36:19
  I
• 36:19
  think
• 36:19
  we're
• 36:19
  moving
• 36:20
  into
• 36:20
  a
• 36:20
  time
• 36:20
  of
• 36:21
  great
• 36:22
  public
• 36:22
  protest
• 36:23
  and
• 36:25
  there
• 36:25
  will
• 36:25
  be
• 36:25
  people
• 36:25
  that
• 36:26
  will
• 36:26
  try
• 36:26
  to
• 36:27
  make
• 36:27
  it
• 36:27
  violent
• 36:28
  and
• 36:29
  exactly
• 36:29
  what
• 36:29
  Trump
• 36:30
  wants.
• 36:30
  So
• 36:30
  he
• 36:31
  can
• 36:31
  federalize
• 36:31
  the
• 36:31
  National
• 36:32
  Guard,
• 36:32
  send
• 36:32
  in
• 36:32
  the
• 36:33
  troops,
• 36:33
  and
• 36:33
  he's
• 36:33
  the
• 36:33
  strong
• 36:34
  man
• 36:34
  saving
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  country.
• 36:35
  So
• 36:35
  if
• 36:35
  you're
• 36:36
  at
• 36:36
  a
• 36:36
  demonstration,
• 36:37
  somebody's
• 36:37
  starting
• 36:38
  to
• 36:38
  do
• 36:38
  something
• 36:38
  violent,
• 36:39
  there's
• 36:39
  two
• 36:39
  things
• 36:40
  you
• 36:40
  can
• 36:40
  do.
• 36:40
  First,
• 36:40
  you
• 36:41
  could
• 36:41
  surround
• 36:41
  him
• 36:42
  or
• 36:42
  her
• 36:43
  so
• 36:43
  they
• 36:43
  can't
• 36:43
  do
• 36:43
  it,
• 36:44
  or
• 36:44
  you
• 36:44
  can
• 36:44
  all
• 36:44
  sit
• 36:45
  down.
• 36:45
  So
• 36:46
  the
• 36:46
  person
• 36:46
  that's
• 36:46
  trying
• 36:47
  to
• 36:47
  inspire
• 36:47
  the
• 36:47
  violence
• 36:48
  is,
• 36:49
  is
• 36:49
  seen.
• 36:50
  So
• 36:51
  that
• 36:51
  those
• 36:51
  are
• 36:51
  two
• 36:52
  practical
• 36:52
  ways
• 36:53
  of
• 36:53
  making
• 36:53
  sure
• 36:54
  that
• 36:54
  our
• 36:54
  protests
• 36:55
  are
• 36:56
  not
• 36:56
  manipulated.
• 36:57
  You
• 36:57
  know,
• 36:57
  these
• 36:58
  radical,
• 36:58
  crazy,
• 36:59
  it's
• 36:59
  violent.
• 36:59
  You
• 37:00
  know,
• 37:00
  he,
• 37:00
  Trump
• 37:00
  was
• 37:01
  saying
• 37:01
  that
• 37:02
  people
• 37:02
  were
• 37:02
  spitting
• 37:03
  on
• 37:03
  the
• 37:03
  police
• 37:03
  and
• 37:03
  the
• 37:04
  soldiers,
• 37:04
  you
• 37:04
  know,
• 37:05
  and
• 37:05
  if
• 37:05
  they
• 37:05
  spit,
• 37:05
  we're
• 37:06
  going
• 37:06
  to
• 37:06
  hit.
• 37:06
  Just
• 37:07
  trying
• 37:07
  to
• 37:07
  build
• 37:07
  this
• 37:08
  up.
• 37:08
  And
• 37:08
  there's
• 37:08
  no
• 37:08
  evidence
• 37:08
  that
• 37:09
  ever
• 37:09
  happened.
• 37:10
  So
• 37:10
  he
• 37:10
  wants
• 37:11
  this
• 37:11
  to
• 37:11
  happen.
• 37:11
  So
• 37:11
  we
• 37:12
  have
• 37:12
  to
• 37:12
  be
• 37:12
  really
• 37:13
  clear
• 37:14
  about
• 37:14
  our
• 37:14
  non
• 37:14
  violence
• 37:15
  and
• 37:15
  that
• 37:15
  violence
• 37:16
  will
• 37:16
  just
• 37:16
  hurt
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  cause
• 37:18
  and
• 37:18
  of
• 37:18
  democracy
• 37:19
  and
• 37:19
  freedom
• 37:19
  and
• 37:19
  justice
• 37:20
  that
• 37:20
  we
• 37:20
  want.
• 37:21
  So
• 37:21
  be
• 37:21
  wise,
• 37:22
  you
• 37:23
  know,
• 37:24
  wise
• 37:24
  as
• 37:24
  serpents,
• 37:25
  harmless
• 37:25
  as
• 37:25
  doves.
• 37:26
  Jesus
• 37:26
  said
• 37:27
  so.
• 37:27
  Don't
• 37:27
  get
• 37:28
  brought
• 37:28
  into
• 37:28
  the
• 37:28
  the
• 37:28
  violence
• 37:29
  of
• 37:29
  the
• 37:29
  street
• 37:29
  and
• 37:29
  destroying
• 37:30
  property
• 37:30
  or
• 37:31
  hurting
• 37:31
  human
• 37:31
  beings.
• 37:32
  Don't
• 37:33
  do
• 37:33
  it
• 37:33
  and
• 37:34
  have
• 37:34
  a
• 37:34
  plan
• 37:34
  how
• 37:35
  to
• 37:35
  stop
• 37:35
  it
• 37:35
  if
• 37:35
  it
• 37:36
  happens,
• 37:36
  because
• 37:36
  it
• 37:37
  will
• 37:37
  happen.
• 37:37
  There
• 37:38
  will
• 37:38
  be
• 37:38
  people
• 37:38
  that
• 37:39
  are
• 37:39
  there
• 37:40
  to
• 37:42
  stir
• 37:42
  things
• 37:43
  up,
• 37:43
  provocateurs,
• 37:44
  and
• 37:45
  we
• 37:45
  can't
• 37:45
  let
• 37:46
  them
• 37:46
  take
• 37:46
  over.
• 37:48
  And
• 37:48
  you
• 37:48
  said
• 37:49
  you
• 37:49
  had
• 37:49
  a
• 37:49
  second
• 37:49
  point,
• 37:49
  John.
• 37:50
  Yeah,
• 37:50
  just
• 37:51
  the
• 37:51
  two
• 37:51
  practical
• 37:52
  things.
• 37:52
  You
• 37:52
  can
• 37:52
  either
• 37:53
  sit
• 37:53
  down
• 37:54
  when
• 37:54
  it
• 37:54
  starts
• 37:54
  getting
• 37:55
  violent
• 37:55
  or
• 37:55
  you
• 37:56
  could
• 37:56
  surround
• 37:57
  the
• 37:57
  person
• 37:57
  that's
• 37:58
  doing
• 37:58
  it
• 37:58
  and
• 37:58
  just.
• 37:58
  No,
• 37:59
  this
• 37:59
  is
• 37:59
  not
• 37:59
  going
• 37:59
  to
• 38:00
  happen.
• 38:01
  Okay,
• 38:01
  good.
• 38:02
  Thank
• 38:02
  you.
• 38:02
  Yeah.
• 38:04
  Well,
• 38:04
  this
• 38:04
  has
• 38:05
  been
• 38:05
  an
• 38:05
  extraordinary,
• 38:06
  rich
• 38:06
  and
• 38:07
  important
• 38:08
  and
• 38:09
  sometimes
• 38:09
  painful
• 38:10
  conversation,
• 38:10
  but
• 38:11
  it
• 38:11
  feels
• 38:11
  like
• 38:11
  one
• 38:11
  of
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  conversations
• 38:12
  that
• 38:13
  needs
• 38:13
  to
• 38:13
  be
• 38:13
  had
• 38:13
  this
• 38:14
  time.
• 38:14
  Mark,
• 38:15
  I
• 38:15
  want
• 38:15
  to
• 38:15
  thank
• 38:15
  you
• 38:16
  so
• 38:16
  much
• 38:16
  for
• 38:17
  throwing
• 38:18
  out
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  key
• 38:18
  points
• 38:19
  from
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  Letter
• 38:19
  from
• 38:19
  a
• 38:20
  Birmingham
• 38:20
  Jail.
• 38:20
  I've
• 38:21
  never
• 38:21
  read
• 38:21
  that,
• 38:21
  but
• 38:21
  now
• 38:22
  I
• 38:22
  really
• 38:22
  want
• 38:22
  to.
• 38:23
  It
• 38:23
  sounds
• 38:23
  like
• 38:24
  a
• 38:24
  very,
• 38:24
  very
• 38:24
  important
• 38:25
  document
• 38:26
  and
• 38:26
  particularly
• 38:26
  appropriate
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  called
• 38:28
  for
• 38:28
  in
• 38:28
  our
• 38:28
  times.
• 38:29
  And
• 38:30
  thank
• 38:30
  you,
• 38:30
  Mark,
• 38:30
  for
• 38:32
  the
• 38:32
  perspective
• 38:32
  you
• 38:33
  bring.
• 38:33
  It's
• 38:33
  really
• 38:34
  beautiful
• 38:35
  to
• 38:35
  have
• 38:35
  someone
• 38:35
  who's
• 38:36
  so
• 38:37
  well
• 38:37
  informed
• 38:38
  about
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  legal
• 38:39
  issues
• 38:40
  of
• 38:40
  our
• 38:40
  time
• 38:41
  and
• 38:41
  yet
• 38:41
  who
• 38:42
  holds
• 38:42
  the
• 38:42
  whole
• 38:43
  thing
• 38:43
  and
• 38:44
  possible
• 38:44
  confrontations,
• 38:45
  etcetera,
• 38:46
  Within
• 38:46
  a
• 38:46
  heart
• 38:46
  of
• 38:47
  care
• 38:47
  and
• 38:47
  compassion.
• 38:48
  So
• 38:49
  thank
• 38:49
  you
• 38:49
  very
• 38:49
  much.
• 38:50
  And
• 38:50
  the
• 38:50
  ethical
• 38:51
  and
• 38:51
  psychological
• 38:52
  aspects
• 38:53
  of
• 38:53
  this
• 38:53
  whole
• 38:53
  thing.
• 38:54
  You
• 38:54
  do
• 38:54
  that
• 38:54
  so
• 38:54
  well
• 38:55
  and
• 38:56
  I'm
• 38:56
  deeply
• 38:56
  grateful.
• 38:57
  Well,
• 38:58
  I'm
• 38:58
  grateful
• 38:58
  to
• 38:59
  you
• 38:59
  both
• 38:59
  and
• 38:59
  it's
• 39:00
  truly
• 39:00
  an
• 39:00
  honor
• 39:01
  to
• 39:02
  be
• 39:02
  in
• 39:02
  your
• 39:02
  presence
• 39:03
  and
• 39:03
  to.
• 39:03
  To
• 39:04
  try
• 39:04
  to
• 39:05
  contribute
• 39:06
  a
• 39:06
  little
• 39:06
  bit
• 39:06
  to
• 39:07
  making
• 39:07
  this
• 39:07
  world
• 39:08
  a
• 39:08
  little
• 39:08
  bit
• 39:08
  more
• 39:08
  of
• 39:09
  the
• 39:09
  same
• 39:09
  place
• 39:09
  with
• 39:10
  a
• 39:10
  heartfelt
• 39:11
  awareness
• 39:12
  all
• 39:12
  around.
• 39:15
  Thank
• 39:15
  you,
• 39:15
  Mark.
• 39:16
  Yeah.
• 39:16
  And
• 39:16
  thank
• 39:16
  you
• 39:16
  everybody
• 39:17
  for
• 39:17
  being
• 39:17
  with
• 39:17
  us.
• 39:18
  We
• 39:18
  super
• 39:19
  appreciate
• 39:19
  you
• 39:19
  guys.
• 39:20
  And
• 39:21
  thank
• 39:21
  you
• 39:21
  to
• 39:22
  our
• 39:22
  manager,
• 39:22
  Heidi
• 39:23
  Mitchell
• 39:23
  and
• 39:24
  to
• 39:25
  TechWiz
• 39:25
  Vanessa
• 39:26
  Santos,
• 39:27
  the
• 39:27
  team
• 39:27
  that
• 39:27
  makes
• 39:28
  this
• 39:28
  possible.
• 39:29
  Thank
• 39:30
  you
• 39:30
  very
• 39:30
  much
• 39:30
  for
• 39:31
  being
• 39:31
  a
• 39:31
  part
• 39:31
  of
• 39:31
  this
• 39:32
  conversation.
• 39:32
  We
• 39:33
  hope
• 39:33
  that
• 39:33
  you
• 39:33
  were
• 39:34
  moved
• 39:34
  as
• 39:34
  we
• 39:35
  are
• 39:35
  moved,
• 39:35
  being
• 39:35
  part
• 39:36
  of
• 39:36
  it
• 39:36
  ourselves.
• 39:37
  We'd
• 39:37
  also
• 39:37
  like
• 39:38
  to
• 39:38
  say
• 39:38
  that
• 39:38
  this
• 39:38
  is
• 39:39
  being
• 39:39
  funded
• 39:39
  by
• 39:40
  Roger
• 39:40
  and
• 39:40
  myself.
• 39:41
  It
• 39:41
  comes
• 39:41
  out
• 39:41
  of
• 39:41
  our
• 39:41
  pockets.
• 39:42
  So
• 39:42
  if
• 39:42
  you
• 39:42
  would
• 39:42
  like
• 39:43
  to
• 39:43
  help
• 39:43
  us
• 39:43
  to
• 39:44
  mainly
• 39:44
  to
• 39:45
  get
• 39:45
  this
• 39:45
  podcast
• 39:45
  out
• 39:46
  to
• 39:46
  more
• 39:46
  people
• 39:46
  because
• 39:47
  the
• 39:47
  bigger
• 39:47
  audience
• 39:48
  have
• 39:48
  which
• 39:48
  is
• 39:48
  steadily
• 39:48
  growing,
• 39:49
  but
• 39:49
  the
• 39:49
  more
• 39:49
  people
• 39:50
  we
• 39:50
  can
• 39:50
  reach
• 39:50
  and
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  more
• 39:51
  marketing
• 39:51
  we
• 39:51
  can
• 39:51
  do,
• 39:52
  the
• 39:52
  more
• 39:52
  positive
• 39:53
  effect
• 39:53
  we
• 39:53
  can
• 39:54
  have
• 39:54
  on
• 39:54
  the
• 39:54
  world.
• 39:55
  So
• 39:55
  we've
• 39:55
  done
• 39:55
  a
• 39:55
  couple
• 39:55
  of
• 39:56
  ways,
• 39:56
  but
• 39:56
  we'd
• 39:56
  like
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  to
• 39:57
  buy
• 39:57
  us
• 39:57
  a
• 39:57
  cup
• 39:57
  of
• 39:58
  coffee.
• 39:58
  Very
• 39:58
  simple.
• 39:59
  And
• 39:59
  I
• 39:59
  do
• 39:59
  that
• 39:59
  with
• 40:00
  podcasts
• 40:00
  that
• 40:01
  I
• 40:01
  support,
• 40:02
  and
• 40:02
  I
• 40:02
  find
• 40:02
  it's
• 40:03
  very
• 40:03
  satisfying.
• 40:04
  So
• 40:04
  thank
• 40:04
  you
• 40:04
  for
• 40:04
  your
• 40:05
  help,
• 40:05
  thank
• 40:05
  you
• 40:05
  for
• 40:06
  your
• 40:06
  presence,
• 40:06
  and
• 40:06
  thank
• 40:07
  you
• 40:07
  for
• 40:07
  all
• 40:07
  you
• 40:07
  are
• 40:08
  and
• 40:08
  all
• 40:08
  you
• 40:08
  do.
• 40:09
  We
• 40:09
  love
• 40:09
  you.
• 40:20
  It.