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Saints’ 34-0 Loss to Rams: What We Learned From New Orleans’ Preseason Blowout · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 2: Obviously, we're gonna to watch the film really closely because
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  Speaker 2: you know, your gut reaction is obviously we want to
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  Speaker 2: accomplish more, you know, as a as an offense, and
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  Speaker 2: we have the unfortunate interception in the first half, we
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  Speaker 2: have one in the red zone the second half or
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  Speaker 2: we're driving and so yeah, we're gonning to watch this
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  Speaker 2: film get better. I thought those guys had some really
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  Speaker 2: good work throughout this entire week and obviously as a
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  Speaker 2: team collectively, you know, we didn't take advantage of this
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  Speaker 2: opportunity today.
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  Speaker 1: That was Kellen Moore after the Saints lost to the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: talking about his backup quarterbacks, so Zach Wilson and Spencer Ratler.
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  Speaker 1: A day to forget for both. John Stinchcom was on
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  Speaker 1: the call. Is good enough on us for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of minutes. So great to have you, Batman. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for the time. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm great, Matt. Appreciate you having me man.
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  Speaker 1: It's our pleasure, and we appreciate you squeezing us in.
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  Speaker 1: We can start there with the quarterbacks. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: both maybe hoping to see a little more. You take
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  Speaker 1: any positives away from Saturday with those guys, not.
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  Speaker 4: From the game.
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  Speaker 3: The reports from the week of the battles that they
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  Speaker 3: had with the Cowboys and the Rams and the joint practices,
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  Speaker 3: those were very positive. Sound like they got great work.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know if there was very many redeeming
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  Speaker 3: qualities from that game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever have one like that one? Do you
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  Speaker 1: ever ever have one like that? John, a preseason game
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  Speaker 1: that you just went like that?
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  Speaker 3: I just don't remember, I not that I can think of. Yeh,
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  Speaker 3: we set off the air. Joel and I were looking
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  Speaker 3: at each other, and we've called Saints preseason games for
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  Speaker 3: thirteen or fourteen years now, and that one might have
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  Speaker 3: been one of the least impressive games that we've witnessed,
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  Speaker 3: and I think there's a number of factors there, and
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to point to excuses, but you also
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  Speaker 3: want to be realistic of how the valuation of preseason
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  Speaker 3: games has changed over the years. Would you mind elaborating
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  Speaker 3: a little Yeah, Well, they used to have four preseason games,
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  Speaker 3: and preseason game number one, the starters played for about
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  Speaker 3: a quarter. Preseason two, you played about a half. Preseason
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  Speaker 3: game number three, you've played into that third quarter and
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  Speaker 3: you didn't really take your starters out or rest until
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  Speaker 3: the fourth game. And that was across the board. And
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  Speaker 3: now you start these games with a list of players
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  Speaker 3: from both sides that you've blacked out half the roster
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  Speaker 3: of starters and some second stringers that don't even dress.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of that has to do with the
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  Speaker 3: work that they get in more controlled environments of those
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  Speaker 3: joint practices. But that's just how it's evolved and how
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  Speaker 3: teams use preseason games. It used to be a part
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  Speaker 3: of that ramp up process.
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  Speaker 4: And it inevitably and undeniably.
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  Speaker 3: It's changed how the teams across the board have used that.
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  Speaker 3: There's not very many starters unless there's a position battle
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  Speaker 3: or a new coach that are getting a ton of
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  Speaker 3: quarters in time in these preseason games, John.
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  Speaker 1: Was there a player or maybe a position group where
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  Speaker 1: you thought guys had a great opportunity that missed the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know you're looking at the wide receiver position
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  Speaker 3: and backup running back position, especially with Tamara down, that
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  Speaker 3: you're hoping that somebody just grabs.
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  Speaker 4: The reins on those.
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  Speaker 3: I think we all think that Kendra Miller has the
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  Speaker 3: talent to be a major contributor during the season. His
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  Speaker 3: biggest stumbling block has always been health for him. But
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  Speaker 3: got to see him a little bit, and and then
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  Speaker 3: there were others that are competing and Devin Neil comes.
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  Speaker 4: Back from a hamstring only to leave the game with
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  Speaker 4: a hamstring.
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  Speaker 3: Uh Ty Chandler impressed in Week one and then bumbles
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  Speaker 3: near the goal line on Saturday, and uh C J.
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  Speaker 3: Donaldson is brings something to the table that the others
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  Speaker 3: don't in that big frame and physicality, and you know
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  Speaker 3: you're hoping that those kind of battles start to trickle
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  Speaker 3: out and you've got some clear answers. I think the
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  Speaker 3: same thing holds true at the wide receiver position. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: with the injuries of Jordan and Tyson, there's more opportunity there.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know whether it was, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: just wasn't a great performance around them across the board.
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  Speaker 3: But Bob Means and Austin Jr. Or guys that are
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  Speaker 3: they're competing to make this roster, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to evaluate who brings more value when when
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  Speaker 3: the overall.
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  Speaker 4: Performance was as let's call it disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: As it was, Super Bowl champion. Former Saint John Stinchcomb
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  Speaker 1: is with us on the call for the Saints preseason games.
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  Speaker 1: As you mentioned with Joel Myers up, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Saints this preseason John without talking about injuries.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has them. It feels feels like this
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  Speaker 1: has been an excessive amount. But first of all, just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: is this an excessive amount or does this feel par
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  Speaker 1: for the course for you? Having gone through on what
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  Speaker 1: double digit.
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  Speaker 3: I think there are more And with the exception of
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  Speaker 3: Brazil right out of the gates with his ac L,
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  Speaker 3: I think the good news on that front is they
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  Speaker 3: seem short term at least most of them are.
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  Speaker 4: You're coming back.
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  Speaker 3: In a few weeks. Is the timeline with the exception
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  Speaker 3: of Jordan Tyson, who appears to be a couple of
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  Speaker 3: months and that his timeline is a little bit longer.
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  Speaker 3: With that said, it's hit every position group and I
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  Speaker 3: think you saw it from defensive tackle to the wide receivers.
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  Speaker 4: The running backs, it's across the.
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  Speaker 3: Board, Quincy Riley, cornerback. It's a lot of injuries that
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  Speaker 3: are spread out, and I'm sure they're trying to they
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  Speaker 3: being the brass on the second floor over at fifty
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  Speaker 3: eight hundred airline or trying to figure out is that
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  Speaker 3: something that we're doing, is that something that we need
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  Speaker 3: to adjust. But again, thankfully, they seem to be more
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  Speaker 3: short term injury, soft tissue things ankles and whatnot that
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  Speaker 3: you can recover from. And with that one week off
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  Speaker 3: between preseason and game number one, the hopes are that
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  Speaker 3: your roster is a little bit healthier when you roll
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  Speaker 3: into the season.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a player or position group that you think
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  Speaker 1: is most significant we talk about these injuries going to
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  Speaker 1: the final preseason.
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  Speaker 3: Game, well d lines certainly stick out to me and
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  Speaker 3: that you know, Kristin Miller had flashed briefly when when
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  Speaker 3: he was available in that preseason game number one, but
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  Speaker 3: he was stunted because of the injuries during OTAs and
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  Speaker 3: the same thing for training camp, and then wasn't available
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  Speaker 3: very much during the joint practices following preseason game number one.
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  Speaker 3: God Show has been down. I mean that se line,
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  Speaker 3: even after you get past the Brazee injury, they've they've
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  Speaker 3: faced a lot of uphill and that's a position group
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  Speaker 3: that you know, I think they need time on test together.
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  Speaker 3: That one sticks out to me the most, probably John.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a thing where I mean, you know the
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  Speaker 1: old adage in the NFL, like you're never staying the same,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting better, you're getting worse. Are they going into
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  Speaker 1: this week, this final week of the preseason looking to
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  Speaker 1: add to the to the roster or or get the
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  Speaker 1: guys that you have better?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's picked up Daniel Carlson and Zamir
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  Speaker 3: White and a trade and a fine, so they're obviously
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  Speaker 3: trying to improve the roster. I think this, if I'm
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  Speaker 3: being honest, Matt, if you look at their roster and
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  Speaker 3: they're much further along than they were a year ago,
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  Speaker 3: and health needs to needs to come together as it
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  Speaker 3: has in years past. But for the teams that are
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  Speaker 3: able to make these runs and the seasons are long
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  Speaker 3: and brutal. You try to stay healthy A and B.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have the depth and in spots to
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  Speaker 3: where you can weather the storm when those injuries do happen.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's something that the Saints are continuing
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  Speaker 3: to build. They've got an upgraded starting lineup from where
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  Speaker 3: they were at least last year, maybe even the year
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  Speaker 3: before that, and going back a couple of years. But
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to get that depth where you can be
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  Speaker 3: competitive for seventeen regular season games and be in position
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  Speaker 3: to make an impact after that in the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: John, last thing for you. I had a buddy who
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  Speaker 1: let's call him a well known New Orleans restauranteur, who
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  Speaker 1: texted me on Saturday after the game, just distraught. Hey man,
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  Speaker 1: if six one on the field, I ain't even sweating.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess let's punctuate this with a positive because
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  Speaker 1: it sounded like the joint practice has actually went really well.
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  Speaker 1: That's two weeks in a row now with the joint
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  Speaker 1: practice is going really well for the Saints. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you got to watch the joint practice, John Off.
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  Speaker 1: You're just there for the game, but if you were
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  Speaker 1: there or just talking to people around the organization. What
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  Speaker 1: are the positives they took from last week with the
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  Speaker 1: joint practices independent of the game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the reports that I got from people that
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  Speaker 3: were there and know have a clue, including Karn Armstead,
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  Speaker 3: who was.
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  Speaker 1: All of them tons of credibility there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So so let's start with somebody that's credible that
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 3: I value as a source. You know, he felt like
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  Speaker 3: we got the better into the stick against Jacksonville and
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  Speaker 3: Dallas and Ram and Rams and all the joint practices.
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  Speaker 4: That's a huge statement.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, when you're coming off a game where
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  Speaker 3: you get pumped thirty four to nothing, I think we
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  Speaker 3: need that that grain of salt to realize that there
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  Speaker 3: is no Chase Young, there's no Tyler Shuck, there's no
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  Speaker 3: a chan There's all the all the players that we
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  Speaker 3: expect to see and make a huge impact. They weren't
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  Speaker 3: available in these preseason games. But yet when they have
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  Speaker 3: been available, and when it's good on good versus versus
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  Speaker 3: some of the very best this NFL has to offer.
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  Speaker 3: Dallas's offense was number one offense in the country last year,
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  Speaker 3: and the Rams roster might be the most loaded of
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  Speaker 3: any team heading into this. So you're competing against really
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  Speaker 3: good teams that expect to make deep runs, a playoff
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  Speaker 3: team against Jacksonville included, and for our best against their
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  Speaker 3: best to come out and you say.
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  Speaker 4: We did more than just hold our own.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is the positive signs that any team
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  Speaker 3: is hoping for. You want that to be reflected in
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  Speaker 3: the preseason games. It's a different Those are different players,
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  Speaker 3: and anytime you go out there and you've.
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  Speaker 4: Got a Florida lee on.
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  Speaker 3: Your helmet and you represent the Black and Gold, you
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  Speaker 3: need to understand the weight of that and you want
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  Speaker 3: it to be honored. But for the for the guys
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  Speaker 3: that we're not available, the ones, if you will, the
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  Speaker 3: the guys that are going to be playing for the Saints,
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  Speaker 3: they seem to have have won their matchups more often
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  Speaker 3: than not in those joint practices, and I think that's
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  Speaker 3: a really positive sign for what this season can hold
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  Speaker 3: for the Saints.
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  Speaker 1: Well said, uh, one more crack at it Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: against Dallas. They're at and T Stadium. John Stinchcomb will
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  Speaker 1: be on the call. Hey man, we always appreciate the time.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for jumping aboard and giving us a
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  Speaker 1: few minutes.
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  Speaker 3: You got it, my man. Thank you, thanks