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Inside Coperni's Skin Care-Infused Clothing with Elizabeth Brasher & Lonice Stoker · The Aesthetic Report

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Aesthetic Report, a podcast for skincare professionals who want to grow in their careers by hearing directly from the individuals who have been there, done that, and are paving the future of their industry.
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  SPEAKER_01: The aesthetic report starts now.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to the Aesthetic Report.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am Elizabeth Brazier.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I am Lani Stoker.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we are here with some interesting updates from Paris Fashion Week of all the places to get skincare news.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure that this was quite on my radar.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have been following some of the updates because I do like of like a secret hobby, love fashion and love design.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_02: I love following brands, just seeing what they're doing.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_02: Runways are always really interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: People also kind of take them as like a medium of what's really going on in the world as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's that kickback of like, you know, what is this telling us?
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  SPEAKER_02: Where are we going in the world?
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  SPEAKER_02: What are these designers doing?
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: New innovations, which is kind of where we are today with this.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_02: So if you saw Copurney, which is famously known for Bella Hadid's 2022 spray on dress, so I'm sure we remember that because I feel like it was everywhere on the internet, like you couldn't escape it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like she walked down the runway, they sprayed it on, it was beautiful, you know, brand new textile technology.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure that it's something that would like hone over into like the everyday person's closet necessarily, but it got them virality, you know, it got people talking about their brand house.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we have to take that into the grain of rice type of thing, right?
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: When they launched this new skincare health fashion line, I'm not even sure what you could call it because there really isn't like a category for this.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_02: So, what was your takeaway, Lanise?
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we'll get into like the actual like details of what it is, but like what's your takeaway on this?
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: What does this really mean for fashion and skincare?
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_03: So I have I too have a fashion background.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I used to be a fashion buyer in corporate retail for the past 12 years before I embarked my esthetician journey.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_03: So I strongly believe there is a seamless conjunction with skin and fashion.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: However, not that literal like Caperni is doing right now.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_03: My initial thought is what?
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_03: But then researching it a little bit, I mean for a company to think outside the box, because that is what you have to do to stay present, relevant, and all of those things, as we do as estheticians every day.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, what can we do to be more innovative?
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  SPEAKER_03: What are we doing to stand out from the next esthetician down the street?
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_03: What are we doing?
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  SPEAKER_03: But this, I don't know, as we talk deeper into it, it's definitely a new era, I guess.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_03: Very unique, one of a kind, but I don't know.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: What I don't understand is about how when you get to washing it and how is it still adding value to the city?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think there's there's some potential limitations going on, definitely.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: I do think they want to be the innovative like driver on this.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, some some brands can come in and maybe copycat off of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I do feel like it's a little bit of a cash grab, too.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: Now, like you said, with buyers and things like that, we have to think, okay, what's gonna bring people in that maybe gives us like a cash leg up right now and to stay relevant on people's minds?
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like Caperna's not a line that you really think of as like a big name house.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's where they started to pull in some of these like tech-inspired, aesthetic, you know, textile type things, which is very cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just like you, fashion background.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was in fashion school for all of like 2.5 seconds, and textiles was actually one of my favorite classes that I took.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: If I could have forayed into anything, it would have probably been textile development.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: That was like the early days of the dry fit technology when that started to become now, it's in everything, right?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: We see that dry fit on all kinds of things, scrubs, even right?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so textiles ranges from a lot of things.
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  SPEAKER_02: Think your cars, think your seatbelts, clothing, all of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: That is textiles, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And they have to be worn a certain way to utilize them and to make them work the way that they need to.
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  SPEAKER_02: So manufacturers have to put that into thought process, right?
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: So, what is this line ultimately?
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  SPEAKER_02: They're calling it C plus, which when I heard that, I was like revisions whole like C plus correcting script and things.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, so I'm like, it's vitamin C.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's that's all my mind went to.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, it's a vitamin C.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_03: Same.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_03: I thought it was something to do with vitamin C.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not really sure what the what the C plus has to do with anything, but that's neither here nor there.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is from what they say, a new era of clothing designed to nurture your skin from daily life to sport.
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  SPEAKER_02: The regenerating garments deliver active skincare benefits throughout the day, boosting radiance and enhancing your natural glow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, great.
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  SPEAKER_02: That sounds wonderful, right?
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: But we love marketers, they can make everything sound amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So basically, these clothes are infused with probiotics and prebiotics meant to be absorbed through the skin, but they have nearly a$200 price tag in USD.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: I think Euros, it's like$150 to$180.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's a lot.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a lot for a piece of per garment.
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  SPEAKER_02: Per garment, per garment.
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  SPEAKER_02: And there's only four of them from what I saw online.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was like two bodysuits and two leggings.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's all you got to choose from.
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  SPEAKER_02: My thinking is, are you supposed to wear these daily?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so you need like multiple of them, you know, because you obviously you gotta wash them.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_02: I can't imagine you're gonna be like, well, I'm gonna go work out in this and then like not wash it.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, don't we need the like I'm just saying, I I pretty much take a probiotic every day, like you're saying to your point.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like, do you do you replace that by wearing this?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: Or is this just like, oh, I need an extra boost?
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I wear this today.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: My guess is that it's from a skin, skin healing, like a microbiome restructuring.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like it doesn't say necessarily that these are pre and probiotics for they they claim like collagen boosting and things.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: Now the problem was I wasn't seeing any clinicals on their website as far as like we've tested these, we've taken you know, skin biopsies and actually done studies like long-term and blah blah blah.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's basically just saying, like, as you move, the garments are gonna give off these microbiotic like spheres onto your skin.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_02: The only thing is, is it only lined on the inside?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's really all that's touching your skin.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: What's what's happening with the outside?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_02: And like, is that just a waste of money?
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_02: And the actual compound of the fabric is polymede, which is like one of the cheapest, like plasticky athleisure wear, you know, textiles.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's been one of the biggest like arguments in fashion lately.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm coming from a holistic standpoint, right?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: I've been trying to limit microplastics in my world.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: Whether you're for or against that, I do feel like we have too much plastic in our lifetime and like the fact that we're seeing it like build up inside the body and it's causing a lot of issues, things like that.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_02: I've just tried to pull plastic out where I can from my daily life.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like it's it's kind of impossible to do everything, especially when you have young kids.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: But like I switched a lot of my cooking wear.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: I took away like plastic, like Tupperware containers and lids and things like that.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, forks, knives, tune.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even drink through straws that are plastic.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: My my tea container that's like reusable is glass.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm doing everything on that front that I can.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: Why would I want to wear something that's polymede all day and giving off microplastics onto me, shedding, and things like that?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: Also, it's just plastic's not great for our skin in the whole set, especially a bodysuit, like wearing, like that's like wearing polymede underwear on your lady bits.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a there's a lot of issues that I have with that.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: I don't feel like the micro bacteria strain can really give up.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I just wear cotton, you know, if that was the case, because then your microflora works the way it's supposed to.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's breathable, it's absorbent, you know, the way that it's supposed to be.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: I do have a company, and this goes more again for the Lady Bits things, because I think that's an important place if you're gonna spend the money on fabric material technology.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: I I have a brand that I bought underwear from called Hoo-Ha, H-U-H-A.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: Theirs is fully cotton, and then the gusset panel in the middle is zinc-infused, so it helps with inflammation and um balancing and things like that.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen silver-infused threads for like antimicrobial.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think I've had towels that had that in there before.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm not against infused or incorporated things into textiles.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: I think there is a case for it.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: This, though, however, like you were talking about, the wash-off.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: Now, did you see how many uses you get out of it?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: I did.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_03: And so that with the price point, I don't know if that's enough for me.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Tell the listeners how many washes you get out of the ware.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: You get 40 washes.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: 40 washes.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that's and that's a potential maximum.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: So they're not even saying that that's like all of them are gonna be that way.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's like that's potentially how many washes you get out of a lifespan of so what what good is the garment after you wash away the technology?
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: Are they gonna sell like a spray to like reinvigorate it or something?
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, I probably just gave them an idea.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: I just I'm just but you know what I mean.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a bit speechless when it comes to it because I'm a creative naturally too.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_03: So I get wanting to be different.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: And the skin-infused clothing is catchy enough for somebody that is highly into their skin, like even me.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_03: But then I read about it and then you tell me I pay$200 for only$40.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's not worth it to me.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let me see.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: What is it?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't even know today.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_03: What if and I don't know if it if there's no clinical studies to show that I'm actually even getting the benefits of the probiotics and prebiotics too.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_03: How can I trust that this is doing what it says it's gonna do?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: With no reason, like I said, I'm like putting plastic in my skin to your point.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't completely converted, but I'm getting there as far as like we use a lot, everything glass bowls here.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_03: Now to go when I'm packing certain things to go, I do still sometimes in a crunch use a ziploc bag, but I'm definitely more conscious of the things uh when it comes to, like you said, straws.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_03: We have metal straws at home and stuff too.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_03: And so I just I I strongly believe in that part and me, then the estetician part comes to me like I'm about to have to start doing a lot of body treatments if these people are buying this and what's gonna happen to their skin, especially once it gets heated up.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: That's what also kind of scares me.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like if this is a plastic type material and then you're running and heating this up, and the bacteria is released onto the skin.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, I'm I don't know.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm like.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_02: I really I need to see like clinical data from because they claim it's from a Swiss textile biotech pioneer haiku, H-E-I capital Q, that they have the patent on this.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_02: Now, again, Copernic has very beautiful marketing and it's all like, what is your lifestyle and a blah blah blah blah?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_02: And you're gonna be so French in this, whatever, yada yada.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um but there's again, there's no clinical breakdown.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess if you could find the actual patent for this, if somebody could sluice for that, because I just I do not have the brain capacity to do it right now.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: I've been businessy, blah blah blah, like all all this morning, and so I'm like I'm I'm hitting max capacity on my brain.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: But that's literally five dollars a wear.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's that's somebody who it's like coffee order every day, and then again, then you're left with this plastic textile, which I'll be honest, they're not even cute enough that it's something that I would wear every day.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_03: I was just gonna say that too.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like, even from the fashion perspective, because like seeing the video, right?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: If you watch the campaign video, guys, your first impression is like the person is pretty much naked, right?
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like, or it's an illusion.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh like I get I get the leggings, right?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because at least that covers like your bottom half.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: But the body suits, I'm like, and the one that's like a tank top, I'm like, okay, so that's covering your nipples, your some boob, and then like your tummy back, but it's like a thong, so it's not even covering like the butt area.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: Or someone might want if it if it does do regenerative whatever, I don't even feel like you're hitting like you're not hitting chest area, you're not hitting like the main points of aging, you know.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, like a bra infused with some things, potentially.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if it could help firm, like yeah, I'm sure somebody's gonna come up with it.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um they're working on it right now.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_02: They are, they are, yeah.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: But again, I think this this comes back around to like that whole of what are we seeing these fashion houses doing and what is it saying to us about where we're moving economically?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and thing, and I think this this line from the company itself was very, very telling.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: They said its latest innovation prioritizes sales rather than brand awareness alone, right?
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: Which is a fancy way of saying this is a cash scrap.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is for the money at the end of the day.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: This is for the money.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: That was out of their mouths directly.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, yeah, uh I don't know.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yes, like beauty fashion, that's always gone hand in hand together.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: But you're talking about again, like very superficial things, right?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, skincare and fashion, I feel like it's tried to merge, you know, when it comes to like the aesthetic of bottles or how things look and stuff like that.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: But the actual like skincare ingredients, like I said, there's there's somewhere that like the the silver threads like for for towels, I bought that so that microbes wouldn't build up on it.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm not someone who's gonna wash my my body towel every single day.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's a lot of laundry, you know?
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: Or hand hand towel, you know.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: But I I think there's somewhere to go, but I don't think this is it.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think this is simply like, hey, we we need to stay relevant and make money.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, so this is what we're gonna do.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's clearly what they said, and they go for the viral moment.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm sure people are sharing this all over like, did y'all see this?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh, what are they doing?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_03: And this is what they want.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: They want to go viral, they want to be a disruptor in the market.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, I think this is one way to gain people's attention to catch capture their attention.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: And I thought it was quite interesting that they also included in the comparison of the Kim Kardashian face wrap, which we already talked, which we already talked about before.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't even think that is that is not even real.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I don't believe in that, you know.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: So these are these are strictly our opinions, guys.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, the C from Capernay, I don't think it's worth your coin to spend on.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Trendy, yes.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: If you're that person like, I want to try the trendy things, go for it.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, at the end of the day, it may not necessarily hurt you in the time span.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know if it's going to, I mean, you could spend that on a really, really nice body care set, like something that actually has ingredients, and that's gonna last you like a few months of use.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I think you'd see more doing that.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: Right, because I'm when I think of this and like again the heat activation of it, and all that I'm like I'm seeing rashes on people's skin.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, I don't know.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, and they they do claim it's it's dermatologist tested, but my thing is is like you can have a dermatologist on a testing stat.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: And again, I want to see this test because companies can pay for tests to kind of look however they want, but you can have a dermatologist that you pay for on your staff and say, Yep, good, green light.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's how you put dermatologist tested on there.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's not really like something that is strictly watched when companies say that.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: So we really have to start asking ourselves like, why is a company wanting to do this?
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: You know, what what is in it for them?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: Caperna's never done anything skincare related.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: Why now?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I I don't know.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like they need to go back to making spray on dresses for like the average consumer, and then maybe they'll make some money.
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• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I see they're they're taking art taking orders.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: I even read that they're like shipping out starting November.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_03: So they're really preparing this for a holiday release, you know, and they know that that's the time that people will buy crazy things.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like people will just be, oh, okay, cool.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: I I need something unique for to buy a gift for, and why not buy some skin-infused clothing?
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: Skin care-infused clothing.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_03: This is what I'm getting for my significant other this year, you know, and I just think that's what they're banking on, not the facts or even if this really is a real thing.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: Because if they have a patent on this, I would think they wouldn't mention that they are only doing this for money.
• 20:15
  unknown: Yeah.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: I just that doesn't go hand in hand to me.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's like it's the Swiss biotech company that has the patent, and then Copernic just uses the ingredients.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: The ingredients on the I don't know if the patents for the actual technology being applied to the fabric or if it's the fabric itself that has the patent.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: So again, I'm like, there's so much nuance here that it's like it's missing context everywhere.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: And um, it's just something the average consumer doesn't know the right questions to ask.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: So, like I said, that flowery marketing sounds fabulous.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: Why wouldn't we want skincare in our clothing?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like, add it on, you know.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, when you really look at it, there's just it's so limited if it does work, which we're still not even sure if it does, and what for, you know?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, it's like that whole thing of like, will we start seeing it in spa linens and you know, aesthetic uniforms and things like that.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know, potentially we're we're such a niche market sometimes.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think bigger companies really go after that because again, the the market's pretty, pretty slow.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know that as a buyer, right?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you're trying most are trying to launch to the broad consumer because that's where most of the money's gonna be made.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: Now, if you're someone that can like retail things, like wholesale it to your clients, they potentially would look into that.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, you already have people that are interested in skincare, so we're gonna allow you to wholesale these to your clientele.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, sheets would be interesting because you're sleeping in them, but you're also like a lot of times wearing pajamas and things like that.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: But again, after you're you wash it so many times, it's gone.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: And then what?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: You throw out the sheets, and like can it even be put on things like cotton or natural fabrics?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, that's the thing, it's like a lot of my closet, I've tried to get rid of anything like polyester, at least to as much as I can, holymede or stuff like that.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: Even like the dress I was wearing to our headshots, like that was fully linen, so it's like cotton, like head to toe.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: When the only thing is like my scrubs at work are I cannot, for the life of me, find anything natural fabric because it does wrinkle and stuff like that.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: So, and it gets dirty easily, and so you know, like scrubs, everything just washes off of it.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: And so, my me personally, if I could like spend my time making like a natural scrub line, I probably would, but I wouldn't even know where to start with that.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: When you just said that, it just made me think about I did see a scrub line that is for nursing moms, though.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I know that you have uh your baby.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_03: And she she's actually one of my clients.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: She came in for a mole removal and told me that she had a scrub line for moms that are nursing.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna share it with you because I thought that was really now that's innovative, right?
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like to where you don't have to live up your whole scrub topic.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard because I always looked for something that was zipper in the front because now I could put my pumps my pumps in.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: And so I had to buy like whole new tops whenever I was pumping or feeding my kids because you know the the tops, yeah, they're like tight up there or they don't fit across the the chest with you know your cups or whatever in there.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's it's hard to find those things.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I'm like, if if I could and I had the money to spend on like making a uniform line that was like natural fabrics, I would because even me and like the spot on that we were trying to because we're very like holistically based.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, man, I should just probably wear like linen loungewear sets to work at this point because I can't find anything.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like polyester, especially since I got pregnant last year, makes me sweat so bad.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like I feel like I'm in a hot box and I am just like sweating hot everything, and I'm just like, I want this off of me immediately.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like I it's just it's like a visceral reaction.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: So if anybody decides to come up with that before I do, great, I'll buy it.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: But but for now, I'm like, it's on it's on the board uh along with many, many, many of the other things that I've got working right now.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I don't know if skincare will make it into our spa lines.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: As much as we would love it.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think obviously, right, to make my life easy, I would probably try it, but it's not worth the price point without enough resources.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: My thing is, I'm like, do I not wear lotion underneath?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: Do I I don't I don't know.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know who this is for.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: I I know because it doesn't and it says like you can go, but then you can work out in it, and then you're gonna be sweating in it, and so it's like, is it gonna even be able to transfer through all of that?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, there's so many questions, anything, and then without answers, that means more risk.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: And so uh yeah, I'm good.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like if it wasn't$200, I mean, say but that for 40 uses, that's a lot.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: And this I'm like this economy, you know, I can't I can't get behind it.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: But I can't so for us here on the aesthetic report, it's a flop, probably.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but yeah, I'd say that's our takeaway.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: I probably wouldn't spend the money on it.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_02: If you have an extra$200 lying around and you want to try it out and let us know how it goes, go for it.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: But I'd say for for the majority, it's probably not not a go forth.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: But what are your final thoughts, Lenice?
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_03: Skin infused clothing is not in my future.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: I do believe the branding, the marketing, and all of that is a great idea.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_03: We just need a bit more research in order for us to make an educated decision, especially when purchasing something that you can only use about 40 times for$200.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: It just needs a little bit more research for us.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: And so for me, um, I'm gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna pass.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll wait to hear about the reviews.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'll wait.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: I'll wait to hear about it.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'm I'm interested to see if we are even gonna see any kind of drive on the social media marketing side because you know they love to do like influencer-based marketing.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll see what comes out of that.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: Although a lot of times I can't trust what they're saying since a lot of times they're paid to say nice things.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but maybe some of the dermatologists and stuff will come forth and and meet us in what we're we're saying.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: But I guess that gets us to our next segment.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: All right, so product reviews.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_03: I had the pleasure of reviewing and receiving skin script's pumpkin enzyme, which is officially now they transitioned it to a pumpkin peel enzyme.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's their most powerful enzyme, 15% lactic acid.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: I I actually love lactic acid so much because you get the hydration plus the brightening all at the same time.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: Pumpkin is powerful.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: People don't really realize pumpkin is a very powerful ingredient.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_03: So I know it's really big around the holiday season, but this can definitely be used year-round.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: It is a nice tingle factor, too, uh, with it.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: So but if you are looking for an enzyme to dissolve the dead skin and infuse your client's skin with some antioxidants to leave you with a nice healthy glow, I actually did the pumpkin enzyme on me too, like, and it smells amazing, by the way.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_03: But yes, this is uh I really I really love it.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's cliche, especially again around October, November time with pumpkin spice lattes and pumpkin facials everywhere.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: But I can say I believe like in my 10 years, skin script was the first pumpkin experience that I had as far as the enzymes.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: So I I would say they've been pioneers in this.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: And not to mention this enzyme for them is an award winner.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: So yay, skin script.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've used that like way back in the day, and I used to love doing chest treatments, like when somebody had a lot of sun damage on it and like the difference that it would make almost instantly.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_02: Fantastic, you know.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: And then let's see, and I know we had one that we tried together, but mine was the Rhonda Allison acne cleansers.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: So there was actually several, like five of them.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which is a lot of cleanser to try.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um but they are really, really nice.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: So there's something for everyone in this, and Rhonda Allison's really been like a pro staple, especially in like the acne space for several years.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: So these were really, really nice, very gentle on the skin, even the ones with you know, some actives in them.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't use like active cleansers all the time.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of have to be very picky on where I put my actives in my routine.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: But uh they were really, really nice.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I I think clients would really enjoy putting them into their routine.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: A good cleanser goes a long, long way in a routine.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: I think cleansers are the unspoken heroes most of the time because if the skin isn't cleansed properly, it's not going to receive anything else.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: So, what was your thought about the rapid lash perfect bead niacinamide spray?
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: This was very surprising.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure what I was expecting.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: So rapid lash perfect bead niacinamide spray.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: So what were your first thoughts on this?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um, first of all, the bottle is very large.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's big.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm like, this is uh, I mean, very generous.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_03: I think for a consumer standpoint, I mean, I feel like you get a lot for your book.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: And I love that it's no scent and it can pretty much spray it pretty good.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_03: I think I I'm I love neosanamide.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: If y'all have been listening to me for the past couple years, neosanamide is one of my favorite ingredients because it's so calming yet powerful, brightens, hydrates, soothe the skin.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I was impressed that Rapid Lash is expanding, I guess, to skincare.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so that was surprising, but yeah, okay.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: I get it.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a large bottle because I feel like it's meant to be used on like body areas and things like that for blemishes and maybe oiliness as well.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: Now I have to be a little careful with niacinamide.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_02: For some reason, my skin just has, y'all probably heard me talk about this, it does, it just doesn't have a great response to it.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: So, about after a couple days of trying it, my skin got really, really dry.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I already knew I'm probably not the person for this.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I handed it over to my husband.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, you can you start trying it out because it's not that it's a bad product.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_02: I know that my skin and niacinamide just don't get along, but but this is gonna be good for a majority of people, just not someone who has a sensitivity to niacinamide, and that's that's with that.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: But uh let's wrap up and move on to our game.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yay! Game time.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_02: So this one is called Rocket or Knocket, and so this is gonna go back to what we've been chatting about earlier in the episode.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: So this is all about future fashion skincare ideas, so just fake things that could potentially be things, and we're gonna answer rocket or knock it based on the prompts here.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, are you ready to tap in with your answer?
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yes.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: So retinol pajamas that release anti-aging benefits overnight, rocket or knock it, knock it for sure.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: So that would be a no-go for you.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's a no, yeah.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds cool, but no, yeah, and also it's like retin, I mean, depending on how much is in there, too.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's it's not enough information for me.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: I can't yeah.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so the next one, LED lit face mask hoodie to stimulate collagen and reduce inflammation, rocket or knock it.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna say I might rock it.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm like LEDs infused into clothing.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe would it be heavy potentially?
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's not something you can just wear out of the house.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel like with the new like foam face mask type, like they're making it more accessible to people to not have to just like sit under a device or sit under a lamp or something like that.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like you can just be watching TV, you get up, go do something, you know, cook dinner, whatever.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um and you could have your hoodie on, it could be for hair stimulation.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: So next one, your favorite niacinamide socks that release through friction and warmth to hydrate the feet.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so though I love neosinamide a lot, I I may have to knock it because I know things can penetrate into my body through the feet.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm really funny about stuff like that.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna, but for since I don't know, I'm gonna say knock it.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, I I I wouldn't be able to wear them.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: If you probably have a horrible reaction, um, but I, you know, there are those like socks that are infused with like aloe and different things.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like a lot of them have like a silicone cover, so that's where most of the moisturizing comes from.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: But right, but there are socks that are like we have seen stuff like this, right?
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: That there are like pedicure socks that are infused with conditioning agents for the feet.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: And since feet and like hands, because I think you have gloves that are like that as well, that you can like wear to bed and stuff.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: Right now, antioxidant infused bathing suit to neutralize free radicals.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm gonna say knock it.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: Post pill probiotic robe to support barrier repair.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, is this for a body pill?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, it might be for a body pill.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_03: So I would say maybe I'll I'll say rocket because anything to help support the healing of a chemical pill.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: And it's a robe, it should be comfy.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: I think we may be okay.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_03: But I think it's also a money grab.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: It's not enough information.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, if it helps with like the recovery on like a laser, like a body laser treatment or something like that, when the skin's really heated, irritated.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_02: I also tell people like, you know, if like we're doing a stomach tightening and tell them, you know, you want to wear loose clothing or like post-late, like laser hair removal, yeah, they'll be able to wear loose, breathable clothing.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like we don't want bands or things like touching the skin and holding in that heat.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: So if there's like I have run into issues with IPL on the body and people wearing the wrong garment post procedure, and they ended up getting heat burns because of that.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: So if there was a special garment that, you know, again, you'd have to work that into the price point, and maybe it wouldn't be feasible for them, but that they could wear post procedure, that would be really nice.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: Anti-aging peptide jumpsuit that improves elasticity and reduces fine lines.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_03: So, see, I may say yes to that, just because it's telling me it's gonna reduce elastic, I mean, improve my elasticity.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking like full body jumpsuit, like the the goes up the like all the way down.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I would probably rock that.
• 37:15
  unknown: Yeah.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: If I can make it look cute, maybe, but uh, I'm like, are we talking about working out in that?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because I might die of heat exhaustion.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then finally, our last one aloe infused sunglasses to soothe the eye area while offering UV protection.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yes.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: You would?
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: I would do it.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's probably crazy, but I love to, I feel like the eyes keep you looking young and youthful.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't think aloe vera will hurt my eyes at all.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: And of course, UV protection is great.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, sign me up for the aloe and peace sunglasses.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: I might see one if like somebody's wearing like an eye mask to bed, you know, for something like that.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm like the sunglasses, I'm like, how would they touch this the skin?
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know, yeah.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: Unless they're like sitting right on top of it.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, uh, I think there might be some caveats to that, but yeah, um, you know, someone could work on it somewhere.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_03: Right, for sure.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: All right, well, that wraps up our episode on skincare and technology fashion from our very limited idea series.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_03: This was a fun one though.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, definitely unique.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_03: We uh I mean, I feel like these type of topics are interesting because we we don't never really have like different unique niche things, like niche like niche things like this.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_03: So I think this is great.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: And obviously they're trying to grab the money somewhere.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: So we gotta stay ahead of them and we gotta stay knowledgeable.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: All right, we'll see you in the next one.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_03: Bye.
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