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Breaking News: The New Bachelorette is a Mormon Wife · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost Fens podcast. We're here tonight with a breaking episode.
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  Speaker 3: Is late.
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  Speaker 2: It's so late, it's like morning time on the East
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  Speaker 2: Coast and a little bit better in Mountain and Pacific time.
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  Speaker 2: People are dreaming right now, but we're not because you
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  Speaker 2: have some breaking news. Trista is here with me today
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  Speaker 2: to break down this news. It's crazy and maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: the name for the episode. This is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect title, Trista.
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  Speaker 2: You started this whole thing, so you're the blame at
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  Speaker 2: some level. We're gonna announcement. Let me just name it here.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul is named the Bachelorette for season twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: It's official. The next star the Bachelorette, Taylor Frankie Paul.
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  Speaker 2: You may know her as the star of Hulu's Secret
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  Speaker 2: Lives of Mormon Wives. She has a huge TikTok following.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I remember three years ago, I think laying
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  Speaker 2: in a bed with my wife as she showed me
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  Speaker 2: these tiktoks, trying to explain to me what in the
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  Speaker 2: world all the fuss was about. Remember then thinking, goodness, gracious,
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  Speaker 2: this is entertaining for no other reason than it's sometimes
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  Speaker 2: enjoyable to live vicariously through other humans who seem to
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  Speaker 2: love to mix life up in a way that I've
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  Speaker 2: never been familiar with. Now, goodness gracious joining the franchise
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  Speaker 2: Trista thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so let me just say that I don't watch,
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  Speaker 3: or I haven't watched Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I
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  Speaker 3: know that it is extremely popular. I know that she
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  Speaker 3: is extremely popular. She's a beautiful girl. I think she's
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  Speaker 3: thirty one years old, has three gorgeous children. She I
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  Speaker 3: was doing a little research with what Heather sent and
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  Speaker 3: it seems she's been divorced twice and was involved in
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  Speaker 3: what they're calling the soft swinging scandal.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know about that?
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  Speaker 2: I do, But I would love for you to explain
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  Speaker 2: she's been divorced once.
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  Speaker 4: Just let you know you want me. Okay, she's been
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  Speaker 4: divorced once.
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  Speaker 2: I would love for you to explain soft swinging to her.
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  Speaker 4: You so want me to explain, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So what I don't understand is why is it soft
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  Speaker 3: swinging compared to swinging? Just because they had an agreement
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  Speaker 3: that they weren't going to have sex with the people
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  Speaker 3: that they were swinging with. Is that what makes swinging? Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So if they don't have sex with their swinging partner,
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  Speaker 3: then that's called soft swinging.
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  Speaker 2: No penetration would be the official no penetration.
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like it will be very interesting to
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  Speaker 3: me to see what happens. She is very popular. Secret
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  Speaker 3: Lives is very popular. It's a Hulu show, so it
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  Speaker 3: makes sense that she is, you know, coming over to
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  Speaker 3: Bachelorette World. They've never had somebody who's famous right from
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  Speaker 3: ever as a lead, have they?
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  Speaker 2: I mean they used to do. They used to do
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  Speaker 2: like you know, back in your day. They're picking people
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  Speaker 2: kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Out of the firestone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a prince a prince, true, but she's like pop
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  Speaker 3: culture famous, you know, like ever had someone who's not
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  Speaker 3: already been on the show. So it's a change. Who
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  Speaker 3: is This is definitely a big change, And I will
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  Speaker 3: be very very interested to see if Bachelor Nation rallies
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  Speaker 3: around her or doesn't or actually doesn't watch because it's her,
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  Speaker 3: because she does. We just found out both of us,
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  Speaker 3: Ben and I don't watch the show. So this is all,
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  Speaker 3: you know, coming from people who don't watch her show.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know her per se. I've never met her.
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  Speaker 3: I don't follow her on TikTok, but I am going
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  Speaker 3: to now or Instagram. I am very curious to know
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  Speaker 3: whether people are going to be turned off by the
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  Speaker 3: fact that she was in jail.
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  Speaker 2: All the show is used to this. We've had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of we've had a couple of issues in the
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  Speaker 2: last few years when it comes to legal matters. So
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  Speaker 2: this show's cool with it.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine, okay, great, okay, great, great on legal matter
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  Speaker 3: and then the winning thing.
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  Speaker 4: Restraining right, Yeah, not a thing.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that she basically cheated on her husband even
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  Speaker 3: though they were in an open relationship, but she cheated
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  Speaker 3: on him because she.
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  Speaker 4: There was penetration.
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  Speaker 3: So I am really interested to just see how Bachelor
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  Speaker 3: Nation reacts to it being her. Because she is part
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  Speaker 3: of the ABC Hulu family and the show is really
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  Speaker 3: really popular. My guess is that the older generation, like
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  Speaker 3: my generation, may not watch, and then the younger generation,
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  Speaker 3: who actually you know, they're big followers of her, are
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  Speaker 3: going to watch because she's super famous in pop culture.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, A couple thoughts. First, is a question to you,
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  Speaker 2: when does she join the Bachelor at text chain.
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  Speaker 4: I'm literal.
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  Speaker 3: Ohie was thinking this earlier. I'm like, how do we
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  Speaker 3: get her number? I mean, I will just be texting
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  Speaker 3: Millsie and say hey, we.
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  Speaker 4: Need to add her to the chain. She will be
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  Speaker 4: added for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a part of She's a part of the group.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I have a couple thoughts. From the small amount of
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  Speaker 2: polls that I've taken. People are fans of her, so
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  Speaker 2: that's great. I don't know enough to make a judgment
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  Speaker 2: either way. It does seem to me trista people are
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  Speaker 2: fans of her because I don't know how else to
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  Speaker 2: say it. I'll say it and get in trouble for it.
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  Speaker 2: She's messy. She's messy. That's how people know her from
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  Speaker 2: her show and her current time is. People have followed
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  Speaker 2: along because of the storylines that have existed around her,
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  Speaker 2: right soft swinging, the arrest, the probation and the pause
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  Speaker 2: in filming, to the chaos that's caused with other people
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  Speaker 2: on her show. It's messy, I think, is the way
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it. Get mad at me for
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  Speaker 2: it if you don't feel that way. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: enough to make a strong statement on this. I have
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  Speaker 2: never known the Bachelorette to be cheered for and watched
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  Speaker 2: because of messiness. I think that changes the franchise drastically.
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  Speaker 2: The franchise has always been about a pursuit of love,
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  Speaker 2: even if people that are watching really don't believe you
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  Speaker 2: can fall in love with the amount of time that
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  Speaker 2: it takes to film The Bachelorette, it has always been
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  Speaker 2: at the core of it. People have tuned in as
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  Speaker 2: a family with their moms, as a sister group, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: because it's the romanticized idea that possibly something could work
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  Speaker 2: from this show. Messiness has never been the core driver.
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  Speaker 2: It might be this season. I'm not saying it's not
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  Speaker 2: going to pick up attention. It's one hundred percent going
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  Speaker 2: to pick up attention. Is that what we want? And
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  Speaker 2: so my question for the audience for Taylor, for whoever
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  Speaker 2: great Taylor, I'm welcoming you into this thing. I hope
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  Speaker 2: you find love from this thing, if that's what you're
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  Speaker 2: really after here. I don't want anybody to come on
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  Speaker 2: this show and their lives become worse for it. That
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  Speaker 2: is not the hope, that is not the dream. That
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  Speaker 2: is not why we've done what we've done on this
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  Speaker 2: show for the last ten years, So I'm getting behind you, kid,
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  Speaker 2: But where does the franchise go from here? If this
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  Speaker 2: is this launching pad for this new era of The
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor and Bachelorette to bring in a whole new audience
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  Speaker 2: of viewers that they need to do, I'm not mad
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  Speaker 2: at them for changing this up. They had to change
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  Speaker 2: it up. They have to try to hit a home
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  Speaker 2: run here, because if they don't, I don't think we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about The Bachelor in a year. I don't. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're already showing warning signs of that. But where
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  Speaker 2: does the franchise go from here? How do they top
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  Speaker 2: a Taylor Frankie Paul? How do they have a season
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  Speaker 2: that is going to be more polarizing than any season
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  Speaker 2: we've probably seen before. That's why people are gonna watch it,
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  Speaker 2: That's why people are going to tune in. How do
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  Speaker 2: you top it year over year over year? Right, Trista,
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  Speaker 2: the show failed? I would I think even when Chris
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  Speaker 2: Harrison was the host, because the tagline became this is
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  Speaker 2: the most dramatic season ever, and they always try to
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  Speaker 2: top the drama year over year over year, and they did.
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  Speaker 2: Goodness gracious, they did for ten years straight. They topped
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  Speaker 2: the drama. It might even been in the last episode
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  Speaker 2: of the season, but there was something the fence, jump,
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  Speaker 2: the podium, getting moved, cheating, scandals, whatever it may be.
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  Speaker 2: They topped it year every year year. And my stance,
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  Speaker 2: and I think many people's stances, the popular stance, was
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  Speaker 2: that trying to top drama year over year took away
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  Speaker 2: from the show. It took away from what the show
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  Speaker 2: was always about. It pushed away viewership. So now we're
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  Speaker 2: not fixing that. Instead, we're going a whole different different
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  Speaker 2: direction where we're saying, we're going polarizing. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: a character to lead the show that is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a shocking person for so many of your core audience,
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  Speaker 2: which is middle us. So my question is where do
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  Speaker 2: we go from here? This might be a great season.
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  Speaker 2: I actually think it will be. I think they're going
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  Speaker 2: to get a ton of viewers. I think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be captivating. I think my wife is going to
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  Speaker 2: watch because she's following this stuff on TikTok. Interested in
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  Speaker 2: it maybe is a word, But where do we go
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  Speaker 2: from here?
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  Speaker 3: You're so right, You're so right, but you know, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I feel like that's been a conversation for
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  Speaker 3: a really long time, and they've been able to sustain.
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  Speaker 3: They always figure something out, so I don't doubt that
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  Speaker 3: they can't.
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  Speaker 4: Figure out where to go from here.
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  Speaker 3: But I, like I was trying to say, if I
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  Speaker 3: didn't convey it clearly, is I just I feel like
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  Speaker 3: the people who are traditional Bachelor og like you know,
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  Speaker 3: and you don't have to have watched since the first season,
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  Speaker 3: but who believe and watch because they love love like
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  Speaker 3: I do. That's kind of like the you know, the
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  Speaker 3: traditional Bachelor fan who like appreciate Ryan and I and
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  Speaker 3: watch from the beginning and maybe not from the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: but still appreciate it because it's love. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we've lost a lot of that because of the drama
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  Speaker 3: I get. You know, I'm sure you do too, about
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  Speaker 3: dms about the show. I get dms all the time,
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  Speaker 3: or comments on any posts that I do related to
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  Speaker 3: The Bachelor that say, you know, I don't watch since
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  Speaker 3: whenever because there's just so much drama. It's just all
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  Speaker 3: about all about the drama, like you said, the most
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  Speaker 3: dramatic whatever, And so I feel like if they could
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  Speaker 3: get back to just having it be about love. But
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  Speaker 3: then there's like, well, is that going to be too boring?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, We'll have to find out. Like this season,
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: The new area of television is definitely not what it
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  Speaker 2: was when the love stories propelled the audience to watch.
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  Speaker 2: I get that right, And that's why I think the
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  Speaker 2: show probably is looking at this going we have to
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  Speaker 2: figure out something because we have a franchise that is
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  Speaker 2: super valuable and has a namesake and a brand that
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  Speaker 2: we want to last for the next twenty years. And
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  Speaker 2: what we've been doing isn't working right. The Zach Shawcross
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  Speaker 2: and Katie Bigger seasons that are love stories at its
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  Speaker 2: core didn't work right. Love them, They're great, but people
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  Speaker 2: didn't in They aren't following along. Those storylines are not
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  Speaker 2: compelling an audience to watch like we hoped and wanted.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe the switch up will be what the franchise
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  Speaker 2: needs and desires, but it's going to be hard to
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  Speaker 2: top it. It's going to bring in a whole new audience.
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  Speaker 2: It is going those those poor ladies from the nursing
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  Speaker 2: home that's so many of us from the Bachelor franchise
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  Speaker 2: would go and visit during the premiere dates and pass
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  Speaker 2: out roses to these people are gone, like where the
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  Speaker 2: franchise is saying goodbye to them. That makes me sad.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a night no matter what, this
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  Speaker 2: is an announcement that is pivoting the franchise in a
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  Speaker 2: new direction. Good or bad. We don't know yet. We
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not going to make that statement yet.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know. But it's pivoting to having our first
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  Speaker 2: celebrity announced as the leader a show, and not just
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  Speaker 2: so celebrity, somebody who is polarizing to this audience, the
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  Speaker 2: audience that has known the franchise.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is a switch up. It is, it's a change.
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  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of catch up. There's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of searches on Google of soft swinging
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  Speaker 2: and what does that mean? And these seventy five to
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  Speaker 2: eighty five year old people are going to be learning
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  Speaker 2: about what it means to watch your partner have sex
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  Speaker 2: with somebody, well with you, with somebody watching? Right? Is
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  Speaker 2: that what this is make an appen?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think. I don't think soft swinging is watching.
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  Speaker 4: It's just being with somebody else.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is watching Trista, It is watching yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's watching. See you're learning as we go.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know about soaking, but I don't know
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  Speaker 3: about soft swinging.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was just you were allowed.
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  Speaker 3: It was like an open relationship agreement where you could
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  Speaker 3: cheat on your partner, not cheat on your partner, but
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  Speaker 3: you both agreed that you could go have relations with
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  Speaker 3: somebody else. I thought it was like you just couldn't
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  Speaker 3: have sex was the soft swinging part. I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: that soft swinging meant you were watching.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody could watch. You're still with your partner. Okay, you're
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  Speaker 2: still with your partner, but somebody else can watch you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh lord, do you know or do you know what?
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what soakin is?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love you to try to explain that to the audience. Trista,
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  Speaker 2: this is wild, I'm changing, this is a pivot, this
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  Speaker 2: is a this is a whole new world.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah for us.
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  Speaker 2: To get behind. I'm telling you, though, there's a level
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  Speaker 2: to me when like, I think my wife is going
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  Speaker 2: to watch, I think millions are going to watch. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're going to view it, they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: entertained by it. I think they're ultimately my stance in
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  Speaker 2: the show doesn't change. I hope she finds everlasting love
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  Speaker 2: from this. Whatever agreement they have and whatever dance they
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  Speaker 2: have in their relationship is not mine to interfere with totally.
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  Speaker 2: I can be confused by it. I can be entertained
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  Speaker 2: by it. I can be intrigued by it. I can
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  Speaker 2: google as much as I want about what in the
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  Speaker 2: world these terms mean and why they they invest into them.
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  Speaker 2: But ultimately I can still root for Taylor Frankie Paul
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  Speaker 2: to find everlasting love from this show. Yes, and in
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  Speaker 2: the meantime, if it blows up on the way, so
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  Speaker 2: be it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering about the guys because like who is
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  Speaker 3: going to be cast as her crew of men, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and like are they gonna like swinging is gonna come
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  Speaker 3: up in the conversations that are had on the show,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's going to be a conversation.
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  Speaker 3: So are like there are going to be guys on
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  Speaker 3: there that like want to participate with other guys on
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  Speaker 3: the show, Like is that going to be a thing
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  Speaker 3: that happens, like, you know, against.
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  Speaker 2: It could be the starting point to interest into a
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  Speaker 2: whole new world. Yeah, The Bachelor I want to hear
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  Speaker 2: the conversations. I want to hear the agreements. One thing
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  Speaker 2: we know about the Bachelor franchise is they love to
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  Speaker 2: overdo a storyline, and so we know that this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be an overdone storyline throughout the season. There's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be jokes, there's gonna be her promo video is
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  Speaker 2: going to be outrageous.
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  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, right, Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be so overdone to the point that we
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  Speaker 2: as an audience become almost I'm in I don't know
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  Speaker 2: whatever in the month is that this area is. I'm
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  Speaker 2: wondering if I'll become desensitized to this Right now, it's
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  Speaker 2: shocking to me. It's late, yeah, but it's shocking in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of ways. I wonder in a few months
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  Speaker 2: after this season's done, if I'm going to become desensitized
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  Speaker 2: to the shock of these storylines, which will be very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Because we all will do it's because yeah, you're right,
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  Speaker 3: you're so right, And you know what, like this storyline,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, it's behind closed doors.
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  Speaker 4: It's what they decided as a couple. Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: That's their that's their relationship, that's their life, and I
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  Speaker 3: fully fully support her. I believe everyone deserves love, and
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  Speaker 3: you know I'm here for it. I'm here to support
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  Speaker 3: her as I do all of the Bachelorette leeds. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm just really interested to see how she'll be like
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  Speaker 3: not accepted, how she'll be portrayed, and how people will
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  Speaker 3: will think of her and.
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  Speaker 4: What goes down.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're all gonna be talking about her around
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  Speaker 3: the water cooler, that is for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully the show brings in millions of new viewers and
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  Speaker 2: we have another ten year run on the Almost Famous podcast,
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  Speaker 2: because goodness gracious, it keeps the lights on in my house,
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  Speaker 2: and I am thankful for that. No matter what's happening
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes, as long as this thing exists, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna have a boy. The Bachelorette is rumored right now.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a clear date, but it's rumored to
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  Speaker 2: be airing premiering early twenty twenty six. That's kind of
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  Speaker 2: our guesses, so let's just keep it easy. Somewhere in
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  Speaker 2: the first six months of twenty twenty six, The Bachelorette
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  Speaker 2: with Taylor Frankie Paul as the lead, will be premiering
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  Speaker 2: on ABC. Trista, thanks for jumping on so late. Tonight again,
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  Speaker 2: we have a big announcement from the Secret Lives of
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Mormon Wives. The lead, the mom talker, the one that
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: rings the headlines out, Taylor Frankie Paul is our next bachelorette.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to meet her, a lot to learn along
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the way, but I won't hold anything back and saying
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I am surprised, I am shocked. I am very curious
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: about not just this season, but where the franchise goes
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: from here. Is this the new thing, Trista, where celebrities
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: become our leads, influencers become our leads for this franchise
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: for the next how many years? I'm curious. It seems
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to be with the show's needing and wanting and desiring
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and again, as long as they get viewers, we still exist.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm here for that, Trista. Until next time. This
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: has been the Almost Famous podcast.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I've Been Ben, I've Been Trista.
• 20:55
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