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Patriots Unfiltered 10/19: NFL Week 7 Picks, Bills Preview, Thursday Practice Update · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: And we got a hurry, but it is don't want
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  Speaker 1: Thursday here at Jillette Stadium and our last show of
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  Speaker 1: the week before we get into the weeknd. It's a
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  Speaker 1: big weekend here to Let's dad him. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel being inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday as along with Dante Scarnekia as a contributor.
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  Speaker 1: So that will be at noon on Saturday. We'll have
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  Speaker 1: it live on Patriots dot Com in case you can't
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  Speaker 1: be here. I hope it doesn't. I think they're going
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  Speaker 1: inside though, but I'm not sure. I think it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like rain, so if it does go inside, it won't
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  Speaker 1: be open to the public, but you will be able
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  Speaker 1: to watch the entire ceremony on Patriots dot Com. So
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  Speaker 1: excited about that. To get them into the Hall. Then,
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  Speaker 1: of course the game on Sunday with a halftime ceremony
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  Speaker 1: with Mike Rabel again.
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  Speaker 4: Will be back in time.
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  Speaker 5: You can pass from the past part twelve with him.
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  Speaker 3: No, but we are going to do a couple of
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  Speaker 3: podcasts while we have the chance over the weekend. You're
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  Speaker 3: going to do a quick one with Mike because he's
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  Speaker 3: a little short on time, but we're also going.
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  Speaker 4: To do one with Romeo Cornell.
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  Speaker 1: What are you gonna'll be good? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: What are you going to tee up? For rapes? And
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  Speaker 5: you got a short time? What do you what do
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  Speaker 5: you jump into?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 5: Where do you go?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I think Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: He can't show you how the sage just made.
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  Speaker 1: You know, everybody that gets inducted into the Patriots Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame does a speech, and you know, not to
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  Speaker 1: be disrespectful, but usually they're boring. I gotta feeling Rabel
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  Speaker 1: will have a couple of zingers in there. That'll be good.
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  Speaker 7: I hope so I thought Vince's was good and the
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  Speaker 7: Rabel kind of feels like the same kind of Yeah
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  Speaker 7: is Dante is he doing this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll say something, yeah, was good to you had
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  Speaker 1: ties were good? Was good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: But you're talking about the induction speech or the halftimes.
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  Speaker 1: Speed either one?
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, either one.
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  Speaker 3: The inductions the halftime is too cool, Like that's just
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  Speaker 3: like thank you everybody, you know. But he's not looking
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  Speaker 3: for But you never know with him, he's kind of tighten.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of a loose cannon tight.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just turious.
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  Speaker 8: No, I bet that'd be Vrabel right, Like I mean,
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  Speaker 8: like they'll be like I feel like I need a
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  Speaker 8: little shot from him about something.
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  Speaker 7: You know, like I don't remember that game in nineteen.
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  Speaker 5: I know, And sorry for ending Tom Brady's career.
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  Speaker 9: Yea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So so it's a big weekend.
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  Speaker 7: We have some dot com stuff for for this weekend
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  Speaker 7: to Mike Rabel piece and my Dante Scarnekia piece from
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  Speaker 7: the Game Day magazine. We're going to publish that on
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  Speaker 7: on dot com tomorrow, which is like probably the you know,
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  Speaker 7: the thing that I love the most that I've ever written.
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  Speaker 5: So read it. What about the film breakdown? You did
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  Speaker 5: a Chicago Bears game last year?
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  Speaker 7: No, like like getting to talk to to Scar and
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  Speaker 7: like talk football with him. Is that was like the pinnacle?
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  Speaker 7: I was like, this is to read that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun. It was fun.
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  Speaker 7: Some Ivan fears, great Ivan Fears quotes in there too.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff. And then you're gonna talk put that on.
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  Speaker 5: Dot com maybe?
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 5: Before you k Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're still tweaking a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we still haven't never posted it. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 7: still here. I saw him walking into the building again
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  Speaker 7: yesterday and I was like, I haven't, like you can retire,
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  Speaker 7: Like it's okay.
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  Speaker 8: Because we have a piece written by Ericscalavino who's been
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  Speaker 8: gone two years.
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  Speaker 3: It was a retirement piece and it's really good. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean we just never really felt like it was
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  Speaker 3: the appropriate eternal time because he's never really officially stepped away.
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  Speaker 1: First all the time, Paul on your podcast with Rack,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think you're gonna ask him?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was just talking to Mad about that
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. And I do not have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of interaction with Romeo Cornell. I mean, I've obviously been
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  Speaker 3: involved in a lot of press conferences with him, as
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  Speaker 3: as I like to say with fifty of my closest friends.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, with guys like Rabel and Rodney and
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  Speaker 3: you know, Devin mccordy, you know, I felt like I
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  Speaker 3: had I'm not pretending that I was friends with them,
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  Speaker 3: because I wasn't, but I.
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  Speaker 4: Felt like they knew me.
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  Speaker 3: I knew who they are and we had some interaction.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really feel like that with with Rome Cornell.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to try, I think, to sort of
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  Speaker 3: step into just some of the stories behind the scenes
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  Speaker 3: that maybe we were of interest. But when he came
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  Speaker 3: here and you know, being part of those three you know,
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  Speaker 3: those first three titles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like i'd want to know, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like he came right away with Bill, Yeah, and so
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  Speaker 1: what was that like? Like what did Bill tell you
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  Speaker 1: were getting into and what was it like building this
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  Speaker 1: team because two thousand it wasn't a good roster, you know, like,
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  Speaker 1: did you have any idea that you were going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to do what you ended up doing? And
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  Speaker 1: what was that building process like? And without getting in
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  Speaker 1: without saying it, Paul, like, maybe there's some differences that
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  Speaker 1: will come out about how that was done compared to
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  Speaker 1: what's being done now, Like don't you know we don't
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  Speaker 1: need no no, but like without asking, like what do
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  Speaker 1: you think of what's happening now? Don't get into that.
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  Speaker 1: But like if he if he talks about like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the types of players that they wanted on defense, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because he was the defensive coordinator, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I'd be curious, like what when you came in like that?
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  Speaker 8: Obviously right out the bat, you knew like all right,
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  Speaker 8: this guy, this guy, no, like they're not for us,
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  Speaker 8: maybe not schematically whatever, But then you get into the season,
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  Speaker 8: then how do you figure out?
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  Speaker 1: Well, but but there were guy, you know, the guys
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  Speaker 1: they brought in, Bobby Hamilton and Roman Piffer they allowed
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  Speaker 1: to go home on the weekends and not come back
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  Speaker 1: until Wednesday because he was living in LA and that
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  Speaker 1: was his condition to come here, you know. But they
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  Speaker 1: they so wanted Roman Piffer because they knew he would
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  Speaker 1: be one of the circle the Wagon guys that they
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  Speaker 1: allowed him to do that, you know, Like so they
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  Speaker 1: they immediately brought in, particularly on defense, guys that they
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  Speaker 1: knew were going to carry the message.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, that's what Scar I asked.
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  Speaker 7: I talked to Scar about it a little bit, and
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  Speaker 7: this was before we knew this team was going to
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  Speaker 7: go one and five and everything like that, and you know,
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  Speaker 7: I was kind of like, When's when was like the
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  Speaker 7: turning because he was here for a long time, even
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  Speaker 7: before the dynasty and everything, and I was like, when
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  Speaker 7: was like the turning point? When did you start to
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  Speaker 7: feel it kind of swing the pendulum? And he said
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  Speaker 7: that when there when there was like a feeling in
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  Speaker 7: the locker room started policing itself, Like the locker room
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  Speaker 7: like started to just kind of they didn't need to
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  Speaker 7: tell people to you know, stay extra time or work harder,
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  Speaker 7: or you know, like the compete level on Sundays. They
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  Speaker 7: didn't have to worry about all of that, so the
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  Speaker 7: coaching staff could just worry all about game plan x's
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  Speaker 7: and o's, you know, teaching fundamentals things like that.
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  Speaker 5: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the next question for Bill should be does
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  Speaker 1: this locker room police itself? And he'll know exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about. He might give you an answer yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And obviously he's not going to say, oh no, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it requires But I think that'll put a light bulb,
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  Speaker 1: light up, a light bulb over his head, and you know, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting shining a light on Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 7: But like, but the contrast, like, yeah, you know, well
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  Speaker 7: with Frable going in, you know, he was one of
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  Speaker 7: the guys that was one of those types of guys
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  Speaker 7: like and no nonsense. I know Willie gets a lot
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  Speaker 7: of credit for that too. And when he came here, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: and those guys and obviously scar then said, well and
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  Speaker 7: then we got Tom Brady right like that, and that
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  Speaker 7: was when he.
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  Speaker 5: Really changed emple.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I think that Scarnekia felt that it even
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  Speaker 7: started to change, like even in the nineties a little
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  Speaker 7: bit where the compete level and the the sort of
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  Speaker 7: you know, just drive to be great and all that
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  Speaker 7: kind of stuff came into play. And then Bill comes in,
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  Speaker 7: then Brady comes in, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good look.
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  Speaker 3: Just to correct. Cornell came in in a one Okay,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't actually come with Bill in two thousand. He
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  Speaker 3: was still the defensive coordinator in Cleveland in two thousands, so.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so that's even more so like.
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  Speaker 4: He came in and it was like boom, super overnight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill must have said I need I need Romeo.
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  Speaker 5: Who was the two thousand defensive course.
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  Speaker 3: I think Bill did it themselves.
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  Speaker 1: So what was that conversation like when Bill said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: can you come here and be our D d C?
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  Speaker 1: You know, did he tell you what the situation was, like,
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  Speaker 1: what you were stepping into, what needed to be done,
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  Speaker 1: players that you wanted to get, you know, like what
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  Speaker 1: was that all about?
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  Speaker 8: I think the obvious question, which I'm sure Paul already
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  Speaker 8: has teed up, is just that stable of linebackers, Like
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  Speaker 8: you know, he brings it up all the time that
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  Speaker 8: what do you say yet six.
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  Speaker 3: For four was that they had three for two spots
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  Speaker 3: inside and outside. Yeah, you know like Ted Johnson, Teddy Bruski,
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  Speaker 3: you know, outside it was always six.
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  Speaker 4: It was McGuinness five for.
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  Speaker 3: Colvin you know when he was here, and Rabel, so
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  Speaker 3: they always It was amazing to me how they had
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  Speaker 3: three top notch players for two spots at both spots.
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  Speaker 4: At all at all times, like and they changed.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, it was you know McGinnis and Vrabel
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  Speaker 3: and then Colvin comes in and you know, Feiffer was
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  Speaker 3: there early and then he left and Ted Johnson was
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  Speaker 3: there early and then he left, but they always had
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  Speaker 3: that layer of depth, and now it's I mean it's
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  Speaker 3: a totally different scheme. Now they basically play with two linebackers.
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  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, they were they with true four.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's what I was just going to say.
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  Speaker 8: And this wouldn't be a question for this, but something
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  Speaker 8: I've always been curious about is when you go back
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  Speaker 8: and look at like six oh seven those defenses, it's
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  Speaker 8: basically the three four or a nickel you know, like
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  Speaker 8: you swap out the big linebacker and you put in
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  Speaker 8: a nickel back and you know, now it's it's all
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  Speaker 8: I mean, they play called dime now. You know, I'd
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  Speaker 8: just be curious Romeo Cornell's perspective on that evolution with
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  Speaker 8: the league, which happened after he left here. Really it
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  Speaker 8: was you know in the twenty tens that it really
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  Speaker 8: you know, people started saying Nichol is the new bass,
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  Speaker 8: Nichol is the new base, and.
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  Speaker 5: You know, just be interested how he feels.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, bas is coming back, Yeah, that's true toa is
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  Speaker 7: making it come, pecially with the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they've put a lot of basis.
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  Speaker 8: But I wonder you know, is it the running quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 8: Is it, you know, the lack of depth up front?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know either. But bass is making a comeback. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: not like Nickels still base in the NFL, but where
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  Speaker 7: the percentages are starting to get back into traditional base.
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  Speaker 8: It's weird anominally too about the Patriots, which I just
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  Speaker 8: am pulling up. I got the numbers right here that
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  Speaker 8: the Patriots are thirty second in Nickels, So like they
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  Speaker 8: go base to dime.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, they don't. They don't really mess around
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  Speaker 5: in the middle. Just interesting, a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit interesting, all right? So we moved back to present day,
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  Speaker 1: or move up to present day, and I think the
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  Speaker 1: big story this week at least what's better story, but
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  Speaker 1: it's getting worse is the injury report. The list of
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  Speaker 1: people on this report.
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  Speaker 5: How high can it go?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Before you unable to feel the team?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Truent Brown, I think is the interesting
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  Speaker 8: one today. If he is he going to be out there?
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  Speaker 3: Is that? You know?
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  Speaker 5: Do you get a day off? Last couple of days?
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  Speaker 7: It was absent Tuesday, right, Yeah, it was absent Tuesday.
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  Speaker 7: I saw him in the locker room yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: No Tuesday moving.
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  Speaker 7: I asked him, like, you know, how you doing? And
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  Speaker 7: he was just like, what do you mean? I was like,
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  Speaker 7: what do you what do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: What you said, how are you doing? And he said,
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  Speaker 3: what do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Trent?
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  Speaker 7: I probably should how are you doing? But yeah, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 7: I just you know, say.
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  Speaker 1: You know, in a holistic way, right, I mean how
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  Speaker 1: are you mentally? How is your life work balance?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Are you getting enough rest?
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  Speaker 5: Getting enough pto?
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  Speaker 1: Trent? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So practice today is when one one, so we'll get
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  Speaker 5: it in the move locker room up too.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that read the email.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah good, Paul.
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  Speaker 3: Heard that inside joke. But twenty guys on that injury
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  Speaker 3: report and it's I have some different thoughts and theories.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're necessarily appropriate for the radio,
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  Speaker 3: but just it's it's the Fred Paul thing, like when
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  Speaker 3: you start losing, that injury report tends to grow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that that hand that kind of hurt really hurts now, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 8: I mean there's a handful of guys Trump, Brown, Jonathan Jones.
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  Speaker 8: I just I'm not optimistic he's gonna play. I hope
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  Speaker 8: they could give me get Jack Jones back, just for
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  Speaker 8: some death because it's getting ridiculous. But I just I
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  Speaker 8: feel like j Jones probably needs a break. He probably
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  Speaker 8: needs to be, you know, shut down maybe for a
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  Speaker 8: little bit. And then Hunter Henry too, like you know,
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  Speaker 8: is that.
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  Speaker 1: He was hurt kind of twice in that last game.
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  Speaker 1: He looked a little like he pulled something when he
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  Speaker 1: was reaching for that interception pass. He stayed down on
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  Speaker 1: one knee. At first, I thought he was just so
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  Speaker 1: bewildered of the play that he just stayed on one knee.
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  Speaker 1: But somebody said that he they skied to ponder it
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  Speaker 1: for a sea.
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  Speaker 7: I did see him pull up a little bit, yeah, now,
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  Speaker 7: but I think it might have been a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit of both, Okay, Yeah, and then later on he
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  Speaker 1: was down on his back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he got he got rolled up on. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 5: then he came back. Yeah, it was funny getting rolled up.
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  Speaker 1: He listed with uh ankle.
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  Speaker 3: It looked like it could have been like a high angle.
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  Speaker 5: That's a rolled up on kind of injury.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's it's getting to be like a mass
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  Speaker 1: unit here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, hopefully Jack Jones could go, that would if
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  Speaker 8: Jonathan can't. But I mean you just kind of have
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  Speaker 8: to hold on against.
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  Speaker 7: Jack Jones, on ja Z Jackson Well, Trent Brown with
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  Speaker 7: the chest, Hunter Henry ankle, Jonathan Jones knee, Riley Reef knee,
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  Speaker 7: Josh Jay knee and ankle, and uh ke On White
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  Speaker 7: obviously with the concussion. Those are the guys that didn't
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  Speaker 7: probare at all.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, ke On White's a bummer. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I assume he's just in concussion protocol, but.
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  Speaker 7: Not that it makes it like that much better. But
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  Speaker 7: having the three guys on the reserve lists being included
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  Speaker 7: on the injury it's a little this evening. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 7: like it's not like that much better, but you know,
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  Speaker 7: guys like Cody Davis and Trey Flowers and Jack Jones
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  Speaker 7: are also on here.
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  Speaker 5: I going to Cody and they got next week.
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  Speaker 7: Right, I think October twenty sixth, I believe is the that's.
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  Speaker 4: Next week, right, yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, week from from two.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's the twenty one days.
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  Speaker 8: You think maybe with Keon White going out that it
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  Speaker 8: might be Trey Flowers time perhaps, I mean, just based
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  Speaker 8: on simply not having the bodies, like I know, Paul,
• 15:00
  Speaker 8: sorry Paul to bring it up.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: It's so mad about trade.
• 15:02
  Speaker 8: Flowers, but young people to be playing.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: You know, just to be completely clear, this has my
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: disdain has nothing at all to do with Trey Flowers,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: who is a rock solid football player. I like, nothing
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: bad to say about Trey Flowers, the person or the player.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: I just would like to see.
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: Sort of a more of a you know, pushful.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I would rather see Jeremiah Farms play on the defensive
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: line just because I don't, you know, I have a
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: feeling I know what he is. But like, if Keon
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: White can't play, then I just think plugging Tray Flowers in,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what you get out
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know what you don't have many
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: alternatives at this point.
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: If they if they plug a guy like Trey Flowers,
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: and it tells me that the coach is worried about
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: keeping his job, you know, Like it's not because if
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: a coach is not worried about job security, he's playing
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: Jeremiah Farms. He's playing some of the younger guys and
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: playing Kaishawan Booty, right.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Like Sam Roberts and Jeremiah Farms. Like to me, like,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I have no idea if those guys are any part
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: of the future or not. Whatever. But Trey Flowers won't
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: be on your team when you're good again.
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: I might not even be on the team next year.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Right, Oh no, no, you know, to Mike's point, if
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: he doesn't get activated, you might not be in the
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: team the rest of this year.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Right, What else have we got?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: What else we got?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: No bill today, Thursday? He'll go tomorrow.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow, Freddy, I was told that I beat you on
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: the roundtable.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: To the fred Oh god, I haven't even done it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, I haven't put a buffaloe?
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Did I know?
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: It was a blowout?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: What's the deadline on that tomorrow morning? Do you want
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: me to say it? You can transcribe it. I'll just
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: read it now.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: And he thoughts with Fred Kirsh.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: The question was.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: About Buffalo Wings, though, so I thought that would intrigue.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll nail that one.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I already got some some votes coming in for.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it's the best buffalo place in Buffalo.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: In local, local, local, think about it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Buffs Pub is up there.
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: I think has already got two votes. I mean, I said, Jim,
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: I've never been to Wendell's. People keep talking about we've
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: got to go there.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Where we go, it's Norton.
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: Everyone everybody keeps talking about that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I've ever heard of that.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: The lineman love it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I like to eat the places that the linemen like
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: to go.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe sometimes instead of keeping.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Place, have delivered and I thought was awful.
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: We'll get a big thing of buffalo wings right in
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: the middle and we'll just all dig in during the show.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: It'll be that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: Maybe maybe they'll send them in for free if we
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: give him and I shut out, like my haircut.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if my place my original thought. I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: don't even know if they're still open.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And back in the day, back in the day, the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: e commerce department used to be down here. It was
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: where the optim Club is now. That was like the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: whole warehouse for e commerce. And there were two guys
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that worked there that challenged each other to a buffalo
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: wing eating contests and they had it right. So I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: walk into the radio and there's a whole bunch of
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: people surrounding these two people with buffalo sauce all over
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: their face and they're just like plowing through buffalo wings.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: It was the funniest thing you ever saw.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: Somebody too much meat left on the bone, Like does
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: it like a certain amount of.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to contest, they do. Yeah, oh yeah,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: leave any any extra.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: You can't just like take a bite and say, oh, that's.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: One but gristle and fat. Let you.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: You never see the guys eat the flats and they
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: just just oh, I do that, right, you do?
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the flats better than the wing part,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I really do. I like.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I like them both, but I I can't do that.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know how.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: How are you gotta hold you gotta get away. You
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: gotta split, you gotta you know how it has two bones,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you gotta split it so that the meat comes off
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: both bones at the same time.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Whether you're like with your tongue, you gotta kind.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: I don't get people who are flats people.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Really you pep. The flats is white meat. The wing
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: part is dark.
• 19:00
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: But they're just weird to eat. Like it's just it's
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: just hard to eat.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's much more tasty.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, just like it's a little and I like the
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: wings union it's a little bit more fat on different
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: part of the bagel. Tasty at my top or bottom.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: There's the top of the bagel and there's the bottom.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I'm just kidding, it's not real. That's good top of.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: The flats and wings are real though, because she says
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: that the wing is like too meaty for her, like
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: she doesn't like she feels like a barbarian.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: I agree, Yeah, I'm with her. Yeah, I like the flats.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will gladly trade you your flats.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: For my I mean, this is this is how, this
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: is why wings are popular in our house.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: But there's there's a lot of good places, but you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Buffalo obviously is the capital of it. That's where they
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: were invented at the Anchor Bar. A little overrated, but
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you know you have to to see it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Do you guys still go there? You guys still go
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: there when you're in Buffalo. Yeah, there's.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: I like Duffs, Like I know that that's like also
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: like a tourist trap, but I yeah, we went right.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been to both, but pretty much in Buffalo,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: like everywhere everywhere is good. If you if you don't
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: know how to do wings in Buffalo, then get out.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Otherwise, I mean it's just so depressing. What else are
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: you gonna do it?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: It's like lobster roll, and if you have lobster roll
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: on your menu, it better be good, you know.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: But like, what really makes a great buffalo wing? Like
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: what sets one above? Like great?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Well, what's great to me? It's a little crispyer, you know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you don't want it soggy not. The wings can't be
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: too big. They have to be kind of in the middle.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: They're not too small, not too big. And then the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: sauce has to be covered. It has to be like
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the real sauce where you fry the wing first and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: then you put it in the bowl with the sauce
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and you it up. Some places like the sauce is
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: like embedded in it. It's almost like baked in. That's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: not good.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Dry rub. Yeah, it's a different kind of wing.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: But they they some people try to get away and
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: calling those buffalo. That's not buffalo buffalo. It's it's mixed
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: in after it's cooked. Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: So this place that we like, like Jess grew up
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: in Connecticut, they they bake them twice, so they bake
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: them once, put the wings sauce on, and then they
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: throw them back in and it's they call them dirt wings,
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: and that like gets it to be that like extra crispy,
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: and like, yeah, okay, that's that's how you make a wing.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I like extra crispy. Yeah, And then of course you
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: have to have blue cheese.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Some people have ranch. You know that's crazy. Brian Morey
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: has sour cream with his wings. He's like, don't knock
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it until you try it to embarrass.
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, to be honest, sour cream's good on everything. Like,
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, I've had to like we've had whole like
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: taco night where we just don't have sour cream, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I gotta go get so you gotta get
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: a gotta get a dollar.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: But you know it can't happen that when it can't
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: happen without all.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You gotta have fun.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but Mexican white white people.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have your tacos, then you go to the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: gap gap girls.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I don't really use either one. But
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Freddy gets really mad with the whole ranch blue cheese thing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like if you're not doing it right, it's like.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: A steak well done, then don't have a steak.
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I couldn't agree more with that one. We disagree
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: on flats versus wings.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: But with steak.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: That's nice that you guys could come together.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: When I go out to dinner with like my extended
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: family for like a big birthday or something like that,
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: my mom's side of the family, well done. I me
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: and my dad want to walk out like we're embarrassed
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: to be with.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: These people the same stuff.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and they're like, oh, it's yours is so raw,
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: like no, mine has flavor, like mine is cooked properly
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: right right.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: He's right.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I cannot get with them today.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Yeah, back to Football Wings.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: The one edition of Thursday PU Buffalo Wings.
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: I could do a quick, a quick aside quick. So
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: I was kind of bored last night watching baseball practice
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: and I watched my boy jt O Solomon did it
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: to just because the guy who called in yesterday kind
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: of ragging on two.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: And I was like, all right, I'm just sitting here
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: and watching too. It's a good one. But it just
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: was interesting to watch.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, it almost felt like this is like becoming
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: my Bob Ross, like just listening to him kind of
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: like talk about like NBC over there.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: He's the anticipation, you know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: But Too was like, I'm sorry, like you can't just
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: take the quarterback out of the equation.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: And be like, well, if any quarterback had good weapons,
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: they'd be really good.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: Like like, there's a certain amount of skill that goes
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: into quarterbacking, and I just think it just reinforced for
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: me that two is on another level that we've never
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: seen Mac Jones ever even get close to. So I
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: know he's got a couple of weapons and blah blah blah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: but and he's playing in like the height of offensive
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: football and for that team right now. But he's he's
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: an excellent, excellent player that has a unique skill set
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: and is ideal fit for what they're doing.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: So I just I don't buy these like cars.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I heard someone call in yesterday on my show Freda
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: and actually discredit to A because McDaniel runs an offense
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: that's completely catered to his skills.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Right, you know, most coaches don't do that, you know.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: And I said that, I said, so, you said, you're
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: saying that he has skills like right, But whatever the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: whole if you want to tell me that Mac could
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: do that, I can't argue that. I mean, I disagree,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: but I can't really argue it right with any empirical
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: facts because he's never been in that system. He's never
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: worked with those players at the pro level. You might
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: be right, maybe if Mac was the quarterback of Miami,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: they'd be four and two in scoring, you know, a
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: mill a five and one whatever they are, and scoring
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: a million points just like they are. I can't argue
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: with you. Yeah, I disagree with you. But what I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: what I can argue is that tour is at least
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: partly responsible for how good they are.
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean you've seen and you've seen it
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: with your own eyes, Like it's like, sure, Mac might
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: be Joe Montana for all we know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: He might be.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: But I also watched a five or six game stretch
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: last year when Teddy Bridgewater, who was not as stiff.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: He's like, maybe he's a little past his prime or
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to say.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: It didn't look anything like that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And when he played, and we were talking before the show,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Mac put up numbers at Alabama and he had great weapons.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Is see, he could do, but it's nothing like what
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Too is doing in terms of the speed of the game,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the pressure he has to avoid. You know, a lot
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of times Mack was thrown from a clean pocket to
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: guys that were wide open downfield. This it's different. It's different. Yes,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Mac did succeed it and he won a national championship
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: put up.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: He was great.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Mac was great, but it wasn't the same as what
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: two is doing.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: I think, you know with Max, you I don't know
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: ifs like Tua is I think the best anticipatory thrower
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: in the NFL right now. He makes throws like third window,
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: like the receiver still hasn't cleared like two defenders and
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: he's already throwing the ball now.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Granted, part of it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: Is because Tyreek is so fast that you know, he
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: can just tart through that, like he knows that he's
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: gonna get there in times, but like it's still the
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: he can see it like before it happens, right, And
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: like the anticipation that he throws the ball with is uncanny.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: Like there's some throws and I think that that's what
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: makes up for the fact that he doesn't have the
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: biggest arm is because he's so early to everything.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: That's why I com that was a good and and
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: you know the JT video, he's drawn like giant ace.
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: He's like anticipation, anticipation. However, you want to cut it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: Everything that Evan is saying was was exactly. But he
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: also said, and I thought that this was kind of interesting.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: He said, when you throw it that much anticipation, sometimes
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: there's gonna be throws that look awful.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Because he's a little off.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: You know, it's a little he's thrown to a spot
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: and it's like it just hits the dirt and you're like,
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: oh my god, what was that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: But you know, he just he missed someone. But that
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: happens when you have a player like that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: But it was just kind of and I'd recommend anybody go,
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: you know, go go check it out. We've just been
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: watching so much of the Patriots offense and how clunky
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: it's been, and you know, to really see just a
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: breakdown of an elite offense right now that is at
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: the pinnacle of production and execution, and to see how
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: on the same page the whole thing is and how
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: well they scheme it up to get defenses in a blender.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: It's it was just.
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: You know, cool to watch and a reminder that you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: there is very good football being played out there.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: And it was also a little scary thinking on it, like,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: oh boy, but I think we've gotten.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: We've gotten some people that have said, you know, we've
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: been too harsh on Mac, and you know, it's Baille's fault.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: And I think that could be true, I think, but
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: I think that there's two it's two separate arguments. Like
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: we all recognize that the setup that Mac Jones has
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: had the last two years has not been good enough
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: for him to succeed. We all can recognize that. But
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: compare him to Tua and like talking about you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: are they the same player if they're in different situations
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: in each other's situations, Like that's a different argument than
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: saying that Bill has failed Mac as a GM and
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: as you know, the head coach of the football team,
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: to put you know, a serviceable offensive line in front
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: of him, to add weapons to the offense that he
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: can throw to, to not mess with his offensive coordinator
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: every single year, Like it's legit to say that Mac
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: he's under his third offensive coordinator in three years. That's
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: that's the playbook of how to ruin a quarterback. Like
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: that's whether maybe you can you know it promote from
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: within like the Bills did, and maybe it's a little
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: bit more seamless, but the Patriots didn't even do that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: They just have completely gone all over the place with it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: So those are all fair criticisms, but it's separate from
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: the fact of not giving two a credit for for
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: how good he's playing right now and how he was
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: playing last year too, before he got hurt.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Before he got hurt, he was he was lighting it up.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: And that's where I sort of I looked at how
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: he was playing and I sort of wondered, But then
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I watched how Miami played in his absence, and that's
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: when I said, I think he deserves more credit for
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: what they're doing than he gets.
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: And I mean, and maybe this is unfair, but I
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: just feel like, no matter what the situation is, you
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: need to see something from a quarterback, even if he's
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: in the worst situation in the league, Like there has
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: to be something to like say yeah.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: But so like if you take two and you put
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: him in this situation with the Patriots, other than getting
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a concussion, if you could avoid that, that anticipation is
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: exactly what a quarterback of this situation needs. He needs
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: to throw guys open, he needs to see the field.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna look like Miami, but I think you
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: would have a little bit more production because that quarterback
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: is anticipating guys. You know, so, but I don't know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: maybe he could look just as bad. Like Paul said,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it's hard to argue either way because until you see it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you can't prove it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: And you can make a really compelling argument that, you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: the caller yesterday was right, because we make believe like
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: you're you're just you know, no one can actually definitively
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: say you're wrong. But I think with you know, with Tua,
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: his concussions have been an NFL problem for him, but
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: the real problem was his hip. Right, So he gets
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: hurt in college, he blows out his hip in college,
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: and I'd never thought that from that point on that
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: his arm strength was.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Ever the same.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: If you go watch pre hip injury to at Alabama,
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: he is throwing the ball like a rocket all over
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: the field, you know, like he's got amazing arm talent
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: early on and out like.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Chad pen Yeah, so the Chad had a good arm, yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: coming out of Marshall and yeah, all those shoulder problems.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I remember, you know, those like detailed things on
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: ESPN that they have that you know, coaches like Peyton
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: Manning does one does it a lot with quarterbacks, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: Nick Saban did one on Tua and he was like,
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: you know, breaking down like a double post concept and
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: he was like, you know, going through the reeds and
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: stuff like that, and he just said, like, we've never
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: had a quarterback until Tua that could make this this
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: deep post throw. Like this is this throw here he
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: comes off the left side and comes to the deep
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: post and rips a deep post like sixty yards down
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: the field. He's like, we you know, nobody else at
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: Alabama could do that, and that was pre hip injury.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: Then he gets his hip, you know, hip gets thrown
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: out and his arm talent wasn't the same. I think
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: that this year his arm talent is as close to
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: back as to what it was pre hip injury as
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: I've ever seen. And so I think that that's part
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: of the thing that's going on is that he has
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: really basically retrained himself to throw with a different throwing
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: motion to put less stress on his hips, and it's
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: enabled him to regain some of that arm strength.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: So well in his faith. When we're done with the show,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: why don't you package it up and send it down
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: to Miami. They might want to put this show on there.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Well, all right, well we're gonna keep it going.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: I got to just say this real quick, because just
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: as I went to look at Twitter, Mike McDaniel was
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: asked yesterday if he thought any QB could succeed in
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: this situation, and Mike McDaniel said, I'm about to push
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: this pot him over. My answer to that will be
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: who the f cares. I've coached a long time and
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: I haven't seen people do what our guys.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Do, so well to see I liked that answer.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I saw that earlier, and I just I liked it,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: you know, like the the correct answers who cares? Like
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I like the way my guy is operating in the system,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: and that's all I have to worry about right now.
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: There's also just this thing that continues to happen where
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: it's like I said, like, it's, well, if you just
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: put any quarterback in the world with the best offensive line,
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: the best weapons, and oh, he'll be amazing.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I think you're telling me that Tom
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Brady wasn't special.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but because I think I think there's some truth
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to if you're if you're an NFL, if you're enough
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to get drafted in the NFL. You're a good quarterback,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and I think if you have all the perfect stuff
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you'll look you'll look good, but you won't look good
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: as Tom Brady or Joe you know, but of course
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you'll look better if everything around you is perfect.
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: You know, I think the better comparison for Patriots fans
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: is more like brock Purdy, Like you know, like what
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: brock Purty is doing in San Francisco right now is
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: probably more reflective of what your argument is.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And this is with him.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that could be true too.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Alex and I have have used the
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: Niners as like the pinnacle before the Dolphins, because the
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: Dolphins really just started breaking out this year, and like
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: that's the team that is quarterback proof, Like you can
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: put pretty much Jimmy Garoppolo, brock Purty, whatever, and because
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: of their weapons and their scheme and their offensive line,
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: it is at least productive with whoever is back there.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: But if you're not a good quarterback, you know you're
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: gonna make mistakes and party up until just I think
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: he just threw his first interception. Maybe he wasn't making
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: mistakes either, but.
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: It's ridiculous that they're mentioning him as an MVP candidate
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: for those exact reasons.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: You just, yeah that I wouldn't go this far.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Tua is an MVP candidate.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I mean I if I had to vote now, I
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: know it's kind of a wasted vote, but I would
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: vote Tyreek Hill over to even right now. But that's
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: you know, like Cooper Kump had that year like with
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: winning a triple Crown and didn't really get serious consideration.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: So offensive Player of the Earth.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a wasted vote. But yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, Perdy's not at that level. But I am
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: curious to see how he continues to do this moving forward,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: because they do. I mean, I did the numbers on
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: the Jimmy comparison, like the I did the previous twenty
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: games for Jimmy Garoppolo, and they scored on average like
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: six and a half more points per game in the
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: games that Perdy played, even over Jimmy. That's not even
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: taken to consideration that Nick Mullens and CJ. Bether with
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: the same talent was Yeah, Stiff's you know, Jimmy is
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: a good NFL quarterback, so obviously to Evan's point, it's
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: quarterback proof as long as long as you have an
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: NFL quarterback, Like I'm not sure that C. J. Bether
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: and Nick Mullens were good.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Enough sideline Jimmy, Yeah, yeah.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Mitch and Auban. He says, I think if Mack wants
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to make big jump next season, he needs to follow
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: into his footsteps, go out in the off season, get
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a full arm sleeve tattoo. Mac for sure will play
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: better next year if he does that. Okay, okay, I
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: The hip thing with him real quick too. I'd never
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: really even thought about it in terms of his arm strength.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I think that's a really different way to analyze it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I always looked at because I thought he was another
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: one of these guys coming out, well, not coming out,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: but at Alabama, it's gonna be another one of these
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: guys that runs around and can make plays and throws
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: it all over the place. And he never would be
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the same without the mobility. He moves well in the pocket,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: but he doesn't run anymore. At Alabama he was. He
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: was kind of a dual threat guy, and I just
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: figured that the the hip problem plus his size, I
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: don't think you would have held up if tried.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: To Andrew in La. Wow, the Patriots is so bad.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: We're onto off season wing talk after the six game Yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: chatting Atlanta. I understand the criticisms of the last coaching
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: staff and how they broke Mac. But one thing that
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I observed that hasn't been safe since twenty twenty one,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: it's max pre snap adjustments, audibles. What happened in twenty one.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: It was amazing to watch Mac as a rookie make
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: checks and audibles that were successful. A lot of the time.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: It seems like, and I could be wrong, none of
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the checks I've seen him make as of late work
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: at all, and the play gets busted more often than not.
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: That's because the check said he like, it's different personnel,
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: right like he's made Last year, they didn't make any
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: checks because they didn't know how right like they just
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: that wasn't in the offense, right like, that just didn't exist.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: They just want they called the play, they walked up
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: to the line of scrimmage and they snapped the ball
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: like that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: That was pretty much it last.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Year what we do.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: But he does make a ton of checks now like that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: It's all on his plate now pre snap it just
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: hasn't worked.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: That's where I read it. But someone was actually criticizing it,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: like can they just get up and run the play?
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: Like I think that was jt o'sullivant, wasn't it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't because I don't I don't, Yeah, I don't.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I mean his stuff other than the fact that Mike
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: recites it to me, I do, I do? I do?
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: And I also saw brul Pepper's jt oh oh oh,
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: I got I got something on Peppers.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I saw the tweet of you staring long.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was good.
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: But I also should tease on tonight's PU Very Special,
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: the first edition of Dissault and Pepper's Coming.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I got to interview Jabiril for the show. Yes, Workshop.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Peppers, I like it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: That was well done, right there, Michael.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: To be honest, I tried.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: I tried to, but I was dared to use that
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: in like the opening and I check it out.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I didn't.
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: I didn't actually say it in front of you, Berril,
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: because I was a little bit you know, I don't
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: want to come off to.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to make this a series where
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the two of you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: We'll see but check it out on. It'll be on
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: pictures dot Com too. Everybody knows how much I loved Peppers,
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: so you know, it was it was funny.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: He's a good guy, he was.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Did you let him know how much you loved him?
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: I well, I was kind of trying to play it cool,
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: and I was like, I really enjoy watching.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: You play, but that's subtle enough.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I went, he went all John Candy.
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: I was like, remember remember the time when you've not
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: hit on? Because Adams, what's the question? Although Paul I
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: didn't have you know, usually we get don or a
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: producer holding out the one minute, two minutes, let you
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: know how you go, and I'm like, I'm hoping I
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: went long enough because it felt pretty quick, you know,
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: like you don't you lose track of time when you're
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: doing interviews.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: And I used to hate, you know, Andy and I
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: used to rotate all the time. And I think it
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: was four minutes?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Was that?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: What were they looking for?
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Two and a half? I still felt like, I'm like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: so we.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Used to do it and I'd be like and I'd have,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: you know, all the questions in my head beforehand, and
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: it's a little bit different when you do it like
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: that because you have to listen to what he says,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: and you're not necessarily preparing the next question, and then
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: you'd always inevitably forget something that you wanted to. And I
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, plus, you're trying to get them
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: in and out. You don't want to take up too
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: much time, and every time you're like, is that long enough?
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Long enough?
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: I texted Don and the producer and I just said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: I hope I got you enough. I think it went well,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: but we'll see. I'm sure, I'm sure Donald works the
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: man two and a half.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe just down a little bit.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: All right? Eight five five pass five hundred. Is the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: A Stick and Hotline? Anything before we get to the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: callers emailers? No, No, I think the picks today. Catch
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: twenty two follows that big day locker room. Yeah, okay, I.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: Guess you won't be in there today. We're going to
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: come for a little bit like you won't.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I guess you won't.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike in Connecticut on the A Stick
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and Hotline. What's up? Mike?
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: Hey, you guys doing I think I was talked about
• 39:34
  Speaker 12: earlier in the week, but just going off to that
• 39:36
  Speaker 12: last email, I think that was red. You know, I
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: think a simple question but hard to answer. What does
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: Adrian Clem.
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: Even do here?
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Coaches the offensive line?
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: But does he?
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, you asked what he did and I just
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: you know, I'm just being I'm being a I'm sorry,
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: but it just, uh, it's just crazy, you know. I've
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: I've written about this and talked about about Adrian Clem
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: and his job so far with this offensive line. I
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: definitely think the context of all the injuries and the
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: guys that have been in and out, you have to
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: throw that in there and give him that. But what
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: I am most disappointed about with Clem is that some
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: of the guys that have been playing pretty regularly, mainly
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: wan Antonio Maffi, like he's not getting any better. You know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: there's no there's really no development. And yeah, it's the
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: same mistakes on the stunts and things like that over
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: and over again, and eventually, you have you would like
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: to see some guys improve, Like I think a guy
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: like Mafi has some tools, like has some ability to
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: play guard in this league, and it's just been kind
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: of the same, especially in past protection and at some
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: point I would look at that, you know, Citisow is
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: another guy that I think, you know, you drafted him
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: in the fourth round, and he's got some tools, some
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: athletic ability. He was a good tester at the combine.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: You know, why why hasn't he been on a more
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: upward trajectory. So I look at some of the younger
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: guys and would say that, But in terms of like
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: the overall play of the offensive line, I do think
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: you need to give Adrian Climb a little bit of
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: a of a caveat with all the injuries and stuff.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, do you feel like we're gonna see it makes
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: my cold strange anytime soon. Like I just I'm still
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: like perplexed by that whole situation. And I know he's
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: just hurt and that's really and he tried to come
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: back and it wasn't happening and maybe got rehurt.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: But he's just one they feel like you gotta get
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: out there. This is year two. Like I just I
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: could use him.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: You know, from the day that he got hurt in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: training camp, you know, I thought, okay, you know, he's running,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: he's jogging right, and it's just turned into this lingering thing.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Seemed like no, I think I'm okay.
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: I think I'm okay, Like that was what was going
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: through my head when I'm watching him like kind of
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: do his little kicksteps afterwards and stuff like you know
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: if you just like torn your moniscus, like you wouldn't
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: immediately walk back out onto the field and start trying
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: to like, you know, kick step.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Because if you recall that day Paul I was giving
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: people blow by blow of what was going on with Cole.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: He's now in the training room, He's sitting on the table,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: He's got his pants on, his ankle.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Thrilling radio.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Oh I do remember that day.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Who what are they checking that out for?
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: I just yeah, I cold strange. I mean, we don't
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: have to keep beating the dead horse on that draft pick.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: But good job, Bill.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Well can I I just wonder if maybe, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: he's a little undersized in terms of you know, his
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: bulk and strength, and I just wonder, you know, if
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: he's one of those guys not being one hundred percent
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: is really exacerbates his limitations.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Todd and Garner or Gardner is a gardener
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. I know it's Todd. Oh, it's it's that
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: tot Hey Tod, Hey man, I don't.
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: Even want to talk about past, but I love one
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: thing right now and that's you guys. You guys keep
• 42:37
  Speaker 13: us going. You give us the tidbits. You're talking about
• 42:40
  Speaker 13: the whole NFL. We don't have much speak side about here,
• 42:42
  Speaker 13: but you guys give us to You give us buffalo.
• 42:45
  Speaker 13: You discuss stuff that's going on. And man, it's hard.
• 42:48
  Speaker 13: It's really hard to go through this and listen to
• 42:50
  Speaker 13: all this. And did you guys make it bearable?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure you make You're making me blussed, thank you.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you know, what do we have to
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: be mad about? You know, like you can be mad
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: because they're not winning, but at the end of the day,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like we still have a job to do.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: You know, in a lot of ways, our job doesn't
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: change now it obviously it's it can be challenging to
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: come up with different things to sort of accentuate and.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: It's not as fun.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: It's not as fun going to Super Bowls and that,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: but you still got to bring your a game.
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: I just like, I honestly kind of feel bad for
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: Evan just because I know how much you love studying
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: the film and you, I mean, that's just what you're
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: passionate about and you're not breaking down good film that.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: If he wants to go back and preview the twenty
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: eighteen AHC Championship game in Kansas City and break it down,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: you should.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: You should have been here in seven when we're in
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the midst of it and all of a sudden you realize, wow,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: this this team's a wagon and we're watching, you know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: because on the TVs you got ESPN on it, all
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: of a sudden on their crawl there's a section Patriots
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: or what I forget what they called it. It was
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like a permanent section on their feet and.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Watch or something.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. It's like, whoa, we know you
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: made it. When even ESPN is on the Perfection one
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Path to Perfection.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Well that was the shows that I used to do
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: on Comcast at the time, NBC Sports Boston, Like I
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: would go in and they had the regular night shows
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: that they have now even but they had a separate
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: one called Path to Perfection and they had like a
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: whole different group of guys. Like it was unreal.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Was that just one show or was that a weekly
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: kind of it was on all the time. It was
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: one every week because there.
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: Was also like a special they did Path to Perfection,
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: and I like bought a bootleg off of eBay because
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: I wanted.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: You could have.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You know, but it was I mean you would have
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you would have been going crazy with that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: It just you know, I think that there's a lot
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: of value in people that try to do what I
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: I do. Like, I try to do what I'm saying
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: because like, what is going wrong is some people do
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: want to know that sort of stuff. But when I think,
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: what makes it so challenging when you watch their film
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: right now is that there's so much going wrong. So
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: it's like what do you focus on? You know, when
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: you start to talk about the offense, it's like, you know,
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: you could point to pretty much, you know, ten guys
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: on some plays and be like you all were wrong
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: on this play, So like, how where do you even
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: begin to start? It gets a little bit overwhelming. When
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: things are going well, it's easy, like it's just you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: here's a touchdown pass and here's why it happened. But
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: when things are going poorly, that's just Yeah, That's what I.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: Was thinking when I watched because I watched the two one,
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: I also watched Josh Allenan and I was just you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: I was thinking of you being like, you know, because
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: Jjo's Albm's going crazy about how well this is executed
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: and drawn up and everything, and I'm like, you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: thinking like this is what Evan wants to be doing.
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: He wants to be watching offenses that are on the
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: cutting edge and doing these kind of crazy things.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, from top to bottom.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: SPIE's and Fresno.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Thanks for your sympathy at this time.
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: Hey touch on the wings thing first second question, Okay,
• 45:50
  Speaker 11: thank you. So I'm more I'm more of a drum
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: with person. But the other day some friends kind of
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: convinced me and I tried, Fred, try your approach with
• 46:00
  Speaker 11: a flat like sucking it off.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, I'm sorry what.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Faith cover your ears.
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: Technique problems though, So I think when you when you
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: put in your mouth, you like bite it like at
• 46:17
  Speaker 11: the very like which end in which side? How do
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: you flip it if you have the flat side under
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: your top road?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look, if you look at the flat
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: there's one side, one end that comes apart easier. That's
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the end that goes in first. You pinch, you pinch
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: at the other end. And Mike mentioned the tongue. Don't laugh,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: But the tongue is involved. You have to get the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: tongue in between to get it.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: We do it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Well, this is this is the technique, man, this is it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: You know, and you're finished with the squirrel.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I also have that's the move. I also have
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: a technique for steamers if you're interested. But you know
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: we're on wings, so you know.
• 46:56
  Speaker 11: But you know, you don't up what cardial is in
• 46:58
  Speaker 11: your mouth.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: If you do cardlis, you could. It depends on the quality,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: depends on the quality of the chicken.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: But you know, I might not want to put this
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: one up for a podcast.
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: Well I'll tell you what. The show is great regardless
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: of the chicken. But hey, I I wanted to ask
• 47:19
  Speaker 11: about with the trade deadline coming up, isn't it like halloweens?
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Not when it is correct?
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: Okay, So I I think a thing I'd like to
• 47:28
  Speaker 11: see would be, you know, you have some some guys
• 47:31
  Speaker 11: like Henry Mills, dougg Er, like it's just maybe born.
• 47:37
  Speaker 11: Maybe you'd like to see some of those guys, a
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: couple of them go for some draft picks, maybe mid
• 47:44
  Speaker 11: round draft picks. That'd be that'd be great. And I
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: just don't. I don't know. I'm just I think that
• 47:49
  Speaker 11: Bill would rather just lurch forward with things as they
• 47:52
  Speaker 11: are and kind of do nothing. And I'm wondering what
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: you realistically.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Expect him to do nothing? Realistically be surprised.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: I think there's a chance you might see a guy go,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: but I wouldn't can I wouldn't think like an overhaul
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: or I agree with him.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: So by the time drafted, like comes, what's the worst record?
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: The Patriots could have one and seven one?
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: So it's it's three after three games away or two
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: games Miami in Miami. So if you are one and seven,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: there's no hope, right, So I mean they could.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: I just don't know if I really like.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Ten and seven would still be in play.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: But it's true, that's true.
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: With the way that the team is going and the
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: way that impossible this is all going with Bill. I
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: just if if I'm craft like I'm saying to him,
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: like just do nothing, like don't like don't touch anything,
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: you know, because like you start you start trading guys,
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: and like do we know we know of Bill's history?
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: Would trade sometimes? Like is that really the best compensation
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: you could have gotten for josh U j or are
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: you just like trading him to one of your buddies
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: like he did with Jimmy Garoppolo right Like it just
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: I don't don't know if I really necessarily trust Bill
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: to get the best return on all of these guys
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: right now, and I would be wary of giving him
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: any sort of GM power to go out and move guys. Now,
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: if you're telling me that Macro is the personnel guy
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: after Bill, and you've given the power to mac Row
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: to go and shop those players, and like, maybe that's
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: a different story. But if Bill's the one that's pulling
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: the trigger on the trade and the return, I am
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: skeptical about that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 10: Ye.
• 49:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah, But news is that we can get you stuff
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: for the just game Week seventeen. That's gonna be a
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: big one.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Guy absolutely toilet bowl. All right, thanks to be excited.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I thought the Kendrick Borne comments yesterday were interesting. Yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: him talking about the trade deadline and it is on
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: his mind and so it's not just stuff that we
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: throw out there. Obviously the players are thinking about it too,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: more some of them.
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: Anyway, He's the one guy and maybe Ooch, but I
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: Kendrick Bourne's the one receivers always go for a ton
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: at the deadline for teams that are you know, real
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: teams that have Super Bowl aspirations that I think that
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: we're just one piece away on offense from having enough.
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: Like I feel like a team like Kansas City calling
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: the Patriots and offering something for Kendrick Bourne wouldn't be
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: crazy at all.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: Oh Miicole Hartman, right, they had to get him back.
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: It would just be funny to me though, if like
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: Kendrick Bourney had what like nine catches last week and
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: maybe like you know, has like nine catches this week
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: and you know, productive against Miami finally like and then
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: they just then that and then that's what he goes like,
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: he finally produces a little bit and then then he's gone.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, speed was online three sounded okay? Yeah?
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: Ok.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Chris with a T I A N says it was
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Pursuit of perfection on ESPN. Pat's chasing the seventy two dollars.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: That is path pursuit.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: No, but the path to perfection was the Comcast show.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, I told you I was on it. You
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: were buying bootleg I'm going to bring in my bootlegs.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: You were buying bootlegs to watch meleg which is very flattering,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: thank you very much. But it was the Christian path
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: to perfection, Pursuit of perfection. I was on like literally
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: on the scroll on the cross, and you know it
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: would be like MLB, NBA, NHL Pursuit of perfection.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: That was like one of the tabs that went around.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: So like, if you're not a Patriots fans, you're like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: what do I.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Care about this?
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: What are they doing? You know?
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: But we were loving it, like like halfway through the year.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: It was like eight, eight or nine, and oh.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: What game did you guys? Finally someone's paying attention to us?
• 51:25
  Speaker 8: What game that season did you guys? Just realize, like
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: this is like video game? This is ridiculous. Week two
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: is that of San Diego? After that we won well,
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: Week one bombs away to Moss against the Chest.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: That was that was one game when they did exactly
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: the same thing in Week two.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: The three of us after this could be different. This
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: they like, this offense is ridiculous.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Remember Gil, So we're so we get to the Super
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Bowl and it's in Arizona, right and we're doing Patriots
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: back then it was PFW in progress. But we're doing
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the live show and Gil Santos is kind of hanging
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: out and just watching us, and said, Gil, come on over,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: here goes Fellows. When I saw them in training camp
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: on the first day, I knew this team would never
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: lose a game.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: No, it was the third preseason game, third quarter. Yeah,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: the offense stayed out because back then the third preseason
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: game was the little dress so they have They had
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: the offense come back out after the half and they
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: just ran the ball and they ran it right down
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: the field. They had this great drive with almost all runs.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: I knew then this team could go undefeated.
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: Didn't even see We're like, okay, what do you say
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: after they Fred's rolling?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but and that's the thing, you know, like
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: some people said, oh when they got Moss, I knew.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Nobody knew. Nobody said it at that time. Nobody knew
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: they were going to be that great.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: He didn't even play in the preseason, right, nobody knew that.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: All these people that It's like the people all the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: people that were at Ted Williams last at bat, you know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: everybody was there and all these people I was saying it,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: you know, back in the stuff, they were gonna be good.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Nobody said that back then, nobody knew.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: I gotta give Andy credit. I think Andy was the
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: first of the three of us that said this team
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: can go undefeated. Yeah, and he said it pretty quick.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I remember being just excited, not betore of the season.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: No, this was like the San Diego.
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember just being excited when they signed Dante Stalwarth.
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: I think he might have been even maybe.
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: Finally, you know, like no idea what Welker and Moss
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: would even end up being.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Uh, let's go to Mike and Arizona.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: You know what's that my clips of Welker for me
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: that those don't those don't do it all?
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 53:45
  Speaker 14: At what point do you think Bill will finally make
• 53:47
  Speaker 14: the decision to Ben Mack and have dam Beat or
• 53:52
  Speaker 14: Cunningham take the rein the way the season is going,
• 53:55
  Speaker 14: I watched all the games.
• 53:57
  Speaker 11: Mac has struggled so much time.
• 53:59
  Speaker 15: Moving the ball.
• 54:00
  Speaker 13: At what point in time do you think that will happen?
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: I might be wrong. I don't think I don't think
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: it's gonna happen.
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: I just don't know what difference it makes. Yeah, Like
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: they're not gonna miraculously put Bailey Zappi in this in
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: the game and he's going to rattle off seven straight
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: wins and they're going to be in the playoffs.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: So like I just, I mean, it's end as long
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: as Mac is running the plays, and he's going to
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: stay in there.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think I think I think he
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: can make a change, Yeah, to Zappi or probably not
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: to cunning him, to Greer, to Will Greer. Yeah, at
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: some point, at some point if he thinks that Will
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Greer is sufficiently prepared.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I can't see it being cunning him because he just
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: hasn't played.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Any quarterback and I clearly don't think they have any
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: use for Zappy.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: So is it just because he's an unknown quantity?
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see what the kid do. Yeah, he's actually
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: he's older than Mac, isn't he will?
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Same, Yeah, he's older years older.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, class now nineteen draft.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: But you know, to to Paul's point or to Eva's point,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: to what end? Okay, so you bench Mack.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: That's not just gonna say, but it's not about like
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I think everybody looks at it that way, like, well,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: they're not gonna win get well, they're not winning games anyway,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: I know, So why not see if you have something
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: like this is my argument from twenty twenty, Like maybe
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Stidham could have been something.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe he was a stiff, but I
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: He played a couple of games for the Raiders last
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: year and looked alright, maybe if you got that in
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, I just by twenty two, you know, he
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: would he could have been a serviceable starting quarterback.
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: Why not if you're gonna switch quarterbacks, I just like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: why not have done it already? Like I guess maybe
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: the argument is that Will Greer wasn't ready, but like, yeah,
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: switching quarterbacks for a one in seven team like just
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: doesn't do anything for me. Like, if that's what you
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: want to do, then fine, But if you didn't bench
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: Mack after how he played in Dallas and then and
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: then compounded by how he played against New Orleans, like
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: at this point, it's just kind of like, all right,
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: you clearly don't think anything of the other guys on
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: the team.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: If that he clearly didn't feel like he had an option,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: then But I'm saying, like, you know, three weeks from now,
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: maybe he would feel like Greer is an option.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Maybe probably not. You guys are right, probably.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: But no, it's not that I don't think that Will
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: Greer could possibly be better. I just don't at that point,
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: I just don't really care like it just you know
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: What's I Will Greer is not the future quarterback of
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: the Patriots.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: Like he's not.
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: He's not going to be the quarterback in twenty twenty
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: four of the Patriots.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I know that.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: So what, Maybe Bill O'Brien says, I just want to
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: see how this offense would look with somebody else.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I think what Evan just said his probably has a
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: ninety nine point ninety nine percent chance of being accurate.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: But let's just say, you know me, I love to
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: be that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: At that point, Oh oh oh why I love to
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: be the turn the poser is the quarterback in twenty
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: twenty four.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: We're in trouble.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: No what if Will Greer, let's just say, for arguments,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: say plays the last eight games of the season and
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: plays exceptionally well in his brock Purty. Now I'm not
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: saying you go eight, No, maybe you go three and
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: five because I just don't think the team is all
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: that good.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: But he plays really well.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: The still no interest?
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: No why because I'm going I'm taking Drake May, like
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: I like just because no, like maybe like Will Greer,
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: if you want to convince me that he's going to
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: be here next year, as like you know, case Drake
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: May isn't ready and you need to start another guy
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: for three or four weeks, like I guess I could
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: convince my I think I you know, some people have said, well,
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: why can't Mac be that that bridge?
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: I don't want Mackett being that.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: But what if what if you know, what if Will
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Gret comes in and wins four or five games and
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: now you're out of the Drake May.
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: Running even even worse, like even worse like.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: What I agree with you, It will be a worse scenario,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: does it? What if he did win games?
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: But do you were three and five? But we don't
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: need Drake May, now I do?
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Look at the whole Will thing is the is the
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: it's the the epitome of that thing that we've never
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: seen and don't know.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: It's the mystery bot, correct, right, and everybody's convinced.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I mean it is his fourth team? Yeah, in three years, right,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: he went to Carolina, ended up in Dallas, went to Cincinnati.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Now he's on the Patriots.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Will get him. We'll get him.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: If Will Grear magic.
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: If Will Grear is starting for this team in week
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: one and next year, I am out, like big capital
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: letters out out. I would rather mac Jones start next
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: year week one, then will Greer in, assuming that they
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: actually do something on offense in the offseason.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: What do you think the chances are that mac Jones
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: is the week one starter in twenty four? Fifty to fifty?
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, who do you think ready?
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I'd say fifty to fifty because even if you get
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: a young guy, maybe he don't start him right away.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just think he's on the team. I mean,
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: I don't know it's the head coach unless you really.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: Like that's that's a good question. I think that's a debate.
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: If a new coach were to come in, would they say,
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: let's just get rid of him, we got to start over,
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: or would they say, we.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Have, you know, a former first round pick.
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: He's not terrible, and he's on a manageable contract, and
• 59:08
  Speaker 8: we need depth, and maybe he doesn't win and maybe
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: he ends up a backup, or you know, we cut
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: him in the summer, but let's at least keep him
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: around for training camp and see.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: No, I think he'd be a great backup. I don't
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: because of his personality. You wouldn't want to be a backup.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, he's an alpha dog.
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't call him an alpha dog, but I think.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: He's got You gotta refer to yourself as mac.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: I think he's wired.
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: I just got to be like a starter. And I
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: think that if you tried to make him the backup,
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: he would be miserable.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, could be. Let's go to Matt in Virginia Beach.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: What's up, Matty?
• 59:45
  Speaker 16: Can you hear me?
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Yep? Have you been to Pocahontas at Virginia Beach? No,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it's a little uh like kind of breakfast joint. They
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: have lunch too, but they're known for breakfast right on
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: the strip there.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: They have no Did they have flats?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I think they have flasks that you can It's good.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: It's a good place anyway.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 15: All right, all right, but yeah, first time a caller,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 15: long time listener.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 17: Nice.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 15: It might get loud because I work on a jet
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 15: base on a sailor station here.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for your service, Oh, thank you.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 15: But I was gonna tell you guys, ask you guys
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 15: this now, let's say we are a top five pick.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 15: Are we gonna get like Kirk Cousins in the pre
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 15: agency or somebody like him, and try to get like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 15: a left like a tackle or a wide receiver, or
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 15: do you guys think we're actually gonna get a quarterback?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 15: Would that be make more sense? Like that's where I'm torn.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I think if I think, if you love either may
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: or Williams and you can get them, then you get them.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: You know, you get the quarterback, right, I'm with you
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: on that, But I don't know what they how they
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: feel about these guys, this regime, and and again like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: is it gonna be this regime making the pick? There's
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: so much there's so much matt unknown about this offseason
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: I think where that's the trouble that I have is
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: like without knowing who's in charge next year, starting to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: answer all these i'd get people why people have the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: draft questions and we can talk about the players just
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: separate from what the Patriots might do, But we get
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: these types of questions a lot of like would you
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: take the tackle the receiver of the quarterback, Like what
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: would you do? And it's like, well, I don't know
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: who's gonna be in charge. So I can't really give
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: like a big opinion on it because if Bill's back,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: then I actually think that Mac will be the quarterback
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: next year.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 15: So yesterday, Evan, I was worried about them. If they
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 15: do pick a quarterback, it'd be deja vu.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: All over again.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who does he play for?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: Who?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Deja vu?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: French?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: Just kidding.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: No, I'm very worried about that as well.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: I just I wonder too, like what kind of dynamic
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: it sets up with Carolina potentially having you know, top
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: two picks throughout the right Chicago, you know, is that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: is something in play there? You're only going to draft
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: one quarterback? I mean, I guess maybe at that point,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: are you going to just blow it up and take Like.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: No, I think they would take a quarterback in Harrison,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: yeah if.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, if it holds, can't trade. But what if
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: you're like at fifth, you know, and you want to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: get right now?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: So like, could you, like I just guess what I'm
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: work shopping, Like, would it make it possible with them
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: having two picks in the top five more likely to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: get up and get one of the quarterbacks?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: I guess is that the first pick overall pick will
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: be Caleb Williams to Chicago. If they have the second
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: overall pick too, that pick will be traded with the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: third overall pick. The third overall pick will take a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: quarterback there, probably Drake May, and then Chicago will take
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: Marvin Harrison Junior at number three. Like you know, so
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: I think the Flora bidding war to do that. Yeah,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: I think they'll move off of number two to get
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: the assets for number two. But you have to take
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: the quarterback first, right, Like it's like what Houston did
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: last year. They took Stroud first and then they trade
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: up to draft will Anderson.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: And to Evan's point, you don't. You can't get too
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: cute because like, let's just say you did trade with
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: the Patriots at six. If that held, well, now you're
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: not guaranteed to get Marvin Harrison, right, you know, so
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: you can't even if the Patriots want to give you
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: a lot, you have to keep the guy in mind
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: that you want. So, Fred, you're just preparing me now
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: for we're going to have like eight months of this
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: talk and you're gonna tell me, well, that's like if
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: they like the guy, yeah, right, Like, because we're never
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: going to assume that they didn't like the guy they took.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Right, I know, Okay, no, but I'm just saying, like.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: If one of the guys they like is there, they
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: got to take him. I'm like, but do you think
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: they should take them?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm just talking particularly quarterback. Yeah, you know,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: if you have a chance to get the quarterback you like,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you go get him. Same thing as a head coach.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I know, but I'm not trying to get into the
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: head of Bill Belichick or whoever ends up making the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: pick to find out what he likes, to figure out, like,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I will not be able to know that.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: It's just crazy to me imagining that a team could
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: literally get Caleb Williams and an elite receiver. I mean,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: just two of the hardest pieces to find. Boom boom,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: right right there in the top of that draft. I mean,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: you talk about a team that should tank.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: And then Patriots, then you gotta pay them in four years.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: I'll enjoy the four years.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: I'll worry imagine that there's still people that do that. Yeah,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: and you're right, yeah, you'd hear that.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: Luck, good good luck paying them in four years from now,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: when there's even a league.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: As Fogs says, let me see a cocktail map out.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: How you do it?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Matthews in New Mexico? What's up, Matthew?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: You guys are I haven't any one of those questions.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: I know it's hard to answer, like Evan said, not
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: knowing who the regime is. But if we're in like
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: that late teams like seven, eight nine, and the quarterbacks
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: are gone, and like Morgan Harrison, would you trade assets
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: for Kyler Murray? Well, that's too much of the questions.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think, thanks Matthew, I wouldn't.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: I think about it?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: You would?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I wouldn't broke I wouldn't break the bank.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Let's do this, I wouldn't break the bank for it.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Let's say Chicago's going for a quarterback. Would you do
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: something to get Justin Fields?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: See that I might. I kind of like him more
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: than Kyler Murray. I know Murray's done more in the league,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: It would cost you a lot less to get Justin
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: fields than it would Murray.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: That's part Yeah, so.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: You know, but I'd be interested in both of those guys. Absolutely.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: Wow, it's crazy both fields and Mac might be gone
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: from their teams.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Just like that.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Lance's already has already gone.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah three years later. See, we got the best quarterback.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Said Jacksonville.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, said Jacksonville. And no one else because
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: the other four probably are not happy.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Adam and Roswell Georgia. These shows always helped the workday
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: go quicker. I'm already looking forward to next Tuesday's open
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: with clips of Fred describing his technique of eating flats.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: No question for me. I'm all in for Tank Nation.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Not sure that we'll get that that will get us,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: but at least we'll make the draft more exciting. I'll
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: be rooting for wins from the Panthers, Giants, Broncos, Cardinals,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: and Bears. The rest of the way Panthers, Giants, Broncos, Cardinals,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: and Bears teams that have wonerful zero losses. Y Aaron
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Harper writes in assuming we're picking in the top five,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I was hoping Caleb Williams would be our pick, but
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: with the nil contract thing, it's hard to see him
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: wanting to be here, especially at the Vikings. With Justin
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Jefferson is picking in the top five as well. Could
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: you see him pulling an Eli Manning. I say that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: to say this is, is there another QB or player
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: you'd look forward to picking in the top five of
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: the draft?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Drake May? But yes, I think that's a concern and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I can see him doing an Eli Manning.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to really concern myself too much about
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: Caleb Williams. I mean, I think that he's going to
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: be the first thing he's got to be. I don't
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: think the Patriots are going to have the first O
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: world pick, and I think they'll just you know, like Chicago,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: it'll probably be down. So I don't I'm not going
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: to spend too much time like thinking wondering about him.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, May is certainly.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in my concern with him is less about the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: nil because I think that's a little bit of bluster.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: He's going to make more money in the pros than
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: he would stay in like whatever. But I do think
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: there are the reason that he's doing all this stuff,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: and to a lesser extent, the stuff about an ownership
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: stake is he's trying to put it out there that
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not just going to go anywhere that drafts me. Yeah,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: like if I don't like it, I'm not going to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: go there, And he's trying to make it known that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: he's going to do something like that. So now when
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: push comes to shove, does he follow through with it?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: I think he's the worm is starting to turn a
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: little on him. I think he's starting to get some
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: criticism from people now about some of these things, you know,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: sort of in a sense of entitlement before he's really
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: done anything. But I do think that there's a chance
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: that he could do with Eli Manning or an L Way.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: I know that that's happened before. I mean you said
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: Eli Manning in lway, which covers you know, the generations.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: But you know, do you think that the NIL deals
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 8: and that is empowering players more or to say I'm good?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I just think even without the NIL, I think just
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: players are different. Now, guys are different.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Look, I say this all the time. These these guys
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: now grow up having attended two or three high schools,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: two or three colleges, and then they go to the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: pros and you're just going to say no, no, no, no,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: like they drafted you. That's where you have to go. Well, no,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: I mean I played for that AAU program one year,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: and then I played for this one the next and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: when I went to the transfer portal, and I could
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: do whatever I wanted, right.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm a million.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have to worry about money right now.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: My I already bought my parents a home with the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: nil money that I made, So why do I have
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: to go to the place that I don't want to go?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: You think you would have gotten an ideal NL dealing that.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely he would have, but they would have paid
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: him in sub food. Yeah's nothing wrong with that college.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: Steak and cheese.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Nyon Northeast Pennsylvania. As everyone becomes more critical of the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: coaching staff, the Patriots one in five record has me
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: looking at stats I normally wouldn't care about. I happened
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: to catch a couple snaps from a few Falcons games
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: over the past few weeks A few weeks, and John
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: hus Smith caught my eye. By no means is he
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: lighting the world on fire? But I looked it up
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: and confirmed that he has more yards and touchdowns after
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: six games this season than he had the whole last
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: season with the Patriots. I know Paul always admired Smith's athleticism.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Where do you guys think the disconnect is with the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: current coaching staff and their personal decisions schemes for certain players.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: This is a great question that I don't have an
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: answer to. But John HU Smith, who I never thought
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: when they signed him was a great player, but he
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: was the player that he is now in Tennessee, and
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: something happened in the two years in New England where
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: he didn't even approach that. And I would say same
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: to a lesser extent with Nelson Agalor yep, who I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: always thought was sort of just blah. He was fine
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: with the Eagles and with the and he came to
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: the Patriots and they were flashes. He was. I think
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Aglo was a better Patriot than John O. Smith was
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: in my mind, but it still didn't look like it
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: did when he was with his previous teams. And now
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: he's gone again and back to being that reasonably productive
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: guy again. The email will put it perfectly. They're not
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: setting the world on fire, But I think Jon O.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Smith would be the leading receiver for the Patriots right
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: based on numbers.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and it's it's I think you're so right.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: It is such a difficult question to tackle because he
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: never like even just watching him in the practice field,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 8: and maybe.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: That never looked right, never looked really athletic.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Always look you don't.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Remember some of those like shallow crosses that he practice.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Not in games.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Ye, well that one preseason game. You're like, wow, that's.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: Why they brought him right like three times. But no,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: you're right, you're right, especially during like.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: He never looked like that during the game ever.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Nope, I don't know. That's a good question.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Ben and Brooklyn, your coverage has been excellent lately. Thank you,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I wanted to add a slight wrinkle. Although
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I agree there been issues with the roster building philosophy,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Has effort execution been a factor as well? Not only
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: have they lost Monty Robinson and Casario, but I wonder
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: if Bill has pulled back in recent years. There was COVID,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: he turned seventy and maybe wants to relax a bit.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Is it possible he got used to scar making chicken
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: salad with wrestlers, et cetera, and thought to himself, we
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: can just send a couple of folks to the Senior
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and Shrine Bowls. Has the organization simply spent fewer man
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: hours on personnel? No?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's true. I do think that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: the brain drain part of that at the beginning of that,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: that's probably got some relevance.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: Like bigger effect you think on the overall personnel decisions
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: or game day preparation, like you know what I mean,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: those two.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Kind of no well personnel. He just rattled off three
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: guys that you know, we were part of it, you know,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: you know, the Zieglers and the Casarios and the austin
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Forts and the Robinson's. You know that that it maybe
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: one didn't really matter, but over the span of ten years,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: losing four or five guys takes a toll. And I
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: think now they're sort of rebuilding that a little bit
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: with Matt grow and Elliott Wolf and you know, Cam
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Williams and those guys. They're trying to get back to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: sort of that comfort level with one another. But they
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: haven't been together that long this group.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Did. Did Albert Breer have a report recently about Belichick
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: and Robert Craft or no?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: I thought just the one I don't know was he
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: was he the one that he's not afraid to fire
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: him was Jeff Howell?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: Oh sorry, No, I don't know this.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Writer Brandon from Hickory, North Carolina. I says, what did
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: you hear about? What do you oh? Did you hear
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: the report from Breer about moving on from Belichick saying
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: it could be a flat out firing. I didn't, did not.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: I didn't hear that.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: No, And I haven't really the stuff really it from
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: from Craft and Belichick everything. I've seen everything, and I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: didn't see that. I haven't seen really anything attributed to anybody,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: like I call it like that, Jeff how report to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: me was like a Seinfeld episode. It was like a
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: report about nothing.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Like YadA ya YadA.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I think if you think they won't do it, you
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: got another thing coming, Okay. I mean, I'm not telling
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: you what's gonna happen because I don't know. I'm not
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: making fun of anyone's report, because if I had a report,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I'd be putting something out there. I don't ya, that's
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: probably not truely probably wouldn't, but just saying, you know, but.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: You get the point.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: I don't. I have no idea what Robert Craft is
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: thinking in regards to the future of the head coach.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: I just struggle to see.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Connor and Rhode Island brings up a point that Paul,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: you and I were talking about, and it's critical to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. He says, I heard an interesting thought earlier.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: No one knows how many years are left on Bill's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: contract and how much money is guaranteed. What if he
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: has three years left with sixty million or more guarante,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: he can Craft really fire him if he's owed all
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: that money. It's a good point.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was our jumping off point on my
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: show yesterday.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody knows the contract status, so we don't know
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: how much or little leverage Bill has.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: Well, I would I would hope, I mean whenever, because
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: I mean it's you know, he's been gone five years.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 8: Like I would guess that some point within that range,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: like the contract was maybe redone or resigned or a
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: new contract was given. Like I would just I just
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 8: wonder if the Crafts had the foresight of we're giving
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 8: Bill a contract that's going to take him past Brady
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: and there's going to be major changes.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: That he's going to have to deal with.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 8: I would just I would hope that they protected themselves
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 8: and weren't just you know, I mean, it's got to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 8: be hard to do when you're negotiating contract with somebody
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 8: been paying for twenty years, and every time you get
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 8: a contract, it's more money. But I just I wonder
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: if they left themselves some wiggle rooms, some outs, those
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: kind of things. It seems like they're pretty smart with that.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: So I mean, just looking at it from a common
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: sense perspective, I can't imagine they looked at it and said,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: he's going to be in his early seventies, let's extend
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: him out, you know, five years beyond that. Yeah, four
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: years beyond that. Now I have no idea what the
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: term is, and I think that is the email or
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: nails it because you can talk about how easy it
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: is to move on from Bill Belichick, but that's a
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: different thing when you're talking about having to pay him
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: that kind of money. I think he is the highest
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: paid coach in sports, so if he has three or
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: four years left, that's a lot of money. It's easy
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: for us to say, well, you got to you know,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: you got to rip off the band aid.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: And that probably be wiggle room.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: And that's why I just I continue to think the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: most likely scenario, if this word to be it, is
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 8: at the end of the season, they work out a deal.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 8: You know if whatever the contract money is, hey, we'll
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: give you this, how about that, you know, and that
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: it'll just be all worked out. It'll all be friends,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: and you know, he'll go as way.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: I feel moving on.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's still going to be a hit to the pocketbook.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if he has years left.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: But let's just say it's like two years, twenty five million,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: and you know, maybe you sit down and say we'll
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: give you half or we'll give you thirty fifty or
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: something like that, you know, and you don't have to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: fire him. It's a mutual parting of the ways kind
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: of deal whatever. And then it's if he wants to
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: keep coaching, then that's offset too. You know, there's gotta
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: be some offset language. And then now it be ironic
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: if Bill ended up coaching like the Cowboys, and Cowboys
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: paid him like five million to coach as opposed to
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: the twenty five million or whatever.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: Is there any other profession that coaching when you're in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: your seventies and you're still just pulling in millions and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 8: millions of dollars, Because like, at a certain point, I'm
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: just like, how much more money do you need? Your
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: only area around for like twenty more years. You're already
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: millions and millions you need like, well, I need more
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: money like for what?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: Like what it would like to pass on to the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: you know, to the foundation, Like I don't know, did.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Food get here yet?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 9: Faith?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: No, because we got picks.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: Coming pizza time? Call him up.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a funny, uh funny comment on the.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Phone, Screener micah in Boise Parsons says, I used to
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: be afraid of letting Belichick go because I'd be scared
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: to see him coach against us. However, that fear is fading.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think he builds a highly talented team, and
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: now even his offensive game plans to flawed. My questions
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: are these, who would take him? And would you be
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: afraid to face Thanks for your great coverage, You were
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: by far the most honest outlet for Patriots News I
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: have ever found. Wow, now that that is probably the
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: biggest compliment we've ever received. Yeah, I mean, or among
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: the best. You're welcome, you know, it's you know, that's
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: something I.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't be overly afraid to face him.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun as hell.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well, I have fun with it.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Having fun now, Fred, I gotta be honest with you,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: and Fred probably feels different about this. I did not
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: enjoy the Tuna Bowls in any way.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: Shape or for Oh.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was a nervous wreck.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: I had a pit in my stomach the whole time,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: and you know I didn't like that.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: But at this stage, I don't really fear.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: My mind is much.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 8: My mind wouldn't go so much immediately to having to
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 8: face him or play him. It would just be I'm
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 8: excited to watch all the changes that have to occur
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: for that football team in terms of everything from top
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 8: to bottom, from what they're presenting on social media, and
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: you know, right on down the line of all the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 8: control that they've had here, how is that gonna How
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 8: would that translate to another team coming in right off
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 8: fresh and be like, thinks you're gonna a little bit
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 8: different around here now, you know, how does that go?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: And the other part of why wouldn't be overly fearful
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: is because like at the time in ninety seven, the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Patriots were at the top of the AFC, they were
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: the defending AFC champs. They had a really good team,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: and they're supposed to win.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, pressure.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't be like that if let's say Belichick went
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: to Dallas. You know, Dallas is a really good team,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: and Belichick would make them better because he'd button it
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: up and you know all that stuff. Dallas would supposed
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: to be beating the Patriots. It wouldn't give me that
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: ajita that I got back in the Tunabuls.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the almost that first game against Parcels here, I
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: went to overtime.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Patriots won it, but I felt like a loss.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: Well not for me, no, I know, but I mean
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: there was no reason for that game to be an older.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Time for me, like we make fun of other teams
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: or they beat the Patriots like their super Bowl. For me,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: that was like winning the super Bowl, you know, like
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: it was such a relief to have won that game.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: You know, well at that point that was close.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: She got so.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Evans going to get food. You don't have to play it.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, get the food, get the She's like.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: What's more important the food or the food?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: The jingle? The jingle?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: What's Evan's back going back.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 7: And the rest of the yow he's trained, he can
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: do it anyways.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: Patriots practice on Thursday. Better attendance on Thursday. I'm not surprised.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: Jonathan Jones, Trent Brown, Hunter, Henry All return to Patriots practice,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: Josh j Riley Reef and Kean White still missing. I mean,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: is not gonna play on Sunday. H j and Riley
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: Reef also not there. But you get three three starters back,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 7: so that's good. And Jones, Trent Brown, and Hunter Henry Okay, good.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: All right, Mood. I didn't mean to yeh, whoa, whoa.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: Don't step on you know, and I just yeah, look,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: Alex extracted from a charity event.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: I would just say that.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 7: With Trent Brown, it is just not at all surprising
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 7: that he was at practice. I knew he was going
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: to be a practice by you yesterday. Yeah, he's not missing. No,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: I knew he was going to be there by Friday.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 7: But you know, he seems to be on one of
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 7: those like veteran like I'm just gonna show up when
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: I need to show up type of schedules and.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: Like you're our only tackle. Do what you want.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, basically we'll still give you to an extra with
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: U is rain.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Expected for Sunday A little bit.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: I'm a little bit an eye on it. Yeah, it
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: seems more rare. No, the move was not affected.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: There were some really bad sandwich takes though that I
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 7: do not approve of. So that was some slander for
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 7: the boys down the street at Jersey.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Barthday names barth Day, Yeah, and from Alex because I'm
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: a little you know, I'm a huge fan, maybe an
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Evan type fan of Jersey Mikes.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: But I do think this, I think really what happened?
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: I think I think you think they've expanded too fast,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: because finding good help these days is not.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: Your Fred You're right, Oh, we don't even I'm just
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: gonna say you guys are like any.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 10: Fast food establishment restaurant.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Is just they're having trouble because of help, right, finding.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: Good now no anyways, good job, don't try, don't anything.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: Good job, Alex, but yeah, Alex, and and and one other.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: In turn, Mike thinks that the Angelo's is better than
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 7: Jersey Mike's, which is probably the worst take I've ever heard.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, that is utterly ridiculous.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: It's a horrible take. I like the Angela's Turkey. I'm
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: not gonna you also like Subway too, thank you?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Well, listen the end the day that the the' angelo's
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: number nine pocket was to die for, but they've gone downhill.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: It is a brutal opinion to say that d'angelo's is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: better than Jersey Mike's.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: If you want to like a bread sub, I mean.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Can I have extra bread?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 7: Were speaking the same language.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: The role is like this, yeah, sorry, go to camerass
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: my one.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: I need one give and it's there's not a lot
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: of not a lot of substance. Now Jersey Mike's. The
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: sub is not the biggest sub that I've ever had,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: but it is loaded.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: It's loaded.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: You said it though, fred I, And that's the theory
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: I've been working on that that COVID broke.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: I would say seventy five percent of restaurants. Restaurants are
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: still going.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: I broke back to I broke mac Mountain.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: It's so hard.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: Actually his best year was during the COVID.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: So hard to.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 10: My favorite restaurants did not make it out.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: Which ones they're just like.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: Oh that doesn't count.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean those are those, but well, my one
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: of my favorites didn't make it. Arthur Is and Hopboken.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: It hasn't opened yet.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 8: No Wedge Salad, but even the one that are still going,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: especially like I would say, like the Applebee's of the world,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 8: those kind of places, Like it's just the service. They're over,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: they're understaffed, they're stressed out, your food is usually wrong,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 8: and just like you're like, I can't believe I'm.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: Right, but that's what I mean. Like they're still open,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: but they're just not good.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 8: Pizzas are here, So you got to go to like
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: fancy places and they have real waiters and real like
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 8: food and everything.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 7: If you're going to go to that level, then Chili's
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 7: number one.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: Chili's has definitely dropped.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: We could go on forever, but we will after the break, Paul,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: can I have a slice?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have your pizzas in here. I already said that.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna have to hurry because
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: we've got the pick.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 18: So right after this, as I think back over the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 18: past few seasons, I wanted to thank my most trusted
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 18: game day teammate, Toastedos. As I recall the last minute
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 18: grocery runs in late night dishwashing, the salty and spicy victories,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 18: I realize it was all thanks to my teammate, Tostitos.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 18: It was always you Tostitos team up with Toastitos, the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 18: official Chip and Dip of the New England Patriots. As
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 18: I think back over the past few seasons, I wanted
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 18: to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Tostitos. As
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 18: I recall the last minute grocery runs and late night dishwashing,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 18: the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize it was
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 18: all thanks to my teammate, Tostitos. It was always you. Tostitos.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 18: Team up with Toastitos, the official Chip and Dip of
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 18: the New England Patriots, and we.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 19: Are back with another edition of the PU Halftime Show.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: I am joined by Faith or All, who I think is.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 19: Now time starts on the PU Halftime Show.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: She was here from when it was show within the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: show to the PU.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 19: Halftime Show and Faith, as always, we're gonna get started
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 19: with some trivia for a Patriots Unfiltered T shirt. Al Right, However,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 19: one of the questions is going to be a bonus
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 19: game pay poster. Yep, guys, As I said last show,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 19: even though the team's not doing great, all these posters
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 19: are awesome local artists, so let's show them some love.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 19: You can get them on Patriots dot Com. But let's
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 19: get into trivia. We're back to some Patriots content here.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 19: I've cooled off a little. Question one, how many touchdown
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 19: passes did Tom Brady throw to a player wearing the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 19: number eighty eight? All right, okay, And here's the bonus
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 19: question that gets you a poster?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Can you name the players?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 16: All right?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Question two?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 19: How many Super Bowl catches, yards and touchdowns does Dion
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 19: Branch have?
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: All right? And question three?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 19: Who was the first NFL player to catch an NFL
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 19: pass from Tom Brady? All right, not touchdown pass, just
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 19: as first first completion. Okay, okay, and faith, we are
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 19: going to get into it. It is Thursday and that
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 19: means nice. And we have this week the Jacksonville Jaguars
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 19: up against the New Orleans Saints, and this is one
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 19: of those interesting matchups.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 17: Do you think I do?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 9: I feel like on paper, I instantly am gonna go
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 9: with Jacksonville just because of the season that they're having.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 9: I mean, they're a top the AFC South right now.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 9: I just feel like they have a lot of pieces
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 9: working for him. But Trevor Lawrence, you know, had got
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 9: an injury in the last game. So I feel like
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: his status and his health. I mean, we've seen with
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 9: Joe Burrow and the Bengals he can come in because
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 9: he's fine, but you know, not playing as well.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 16: Obviously the Bengals figured it out now, But I don't know.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 9: I feel like this is one of those matchups that
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: if Trevor Lawrence is banged up or not fully there,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 9: I don't know Saints have a chance. I mean, the
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 9: Saints are coming off a loss off the Texans, but
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 9: I don't think that necessarily there's no need to sound
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 9: the alarms.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 16: I feel like they're they're getting things.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 19: So the Jags just beat the Colts thirty seven to twenty,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 19: and that scores a lot closer than it was. I
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 19: mean it was kind of a beat down. I mean
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 19: the Colts scored fourteen points in the fourth quarter.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: Don't even know what time red zone was.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Off by then.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 19: No, So I'm with you. I think the Jags are
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 19: gonna take this one. But I just there's one of
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 19: the Jags. They kind of remind me the Commanders. Okay,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 19: the Commanders, I think it was they played the Eagles
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 19: very close, and then they're playing the Bears on Thursday
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 19: at football and you're like, this is a win and
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 19: then they kind of just crap the bed.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this just has that rich It could go either.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 19: I don't even want to say a trap game, because
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 19: the Saints like they're fine, they're not great. They beat us,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 19: but like that's not impressive. So I just think if
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 19: Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Is happy, I'm sorry to happy. Don't be happy, happy
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: to a wonderful day healthy if he's healthy.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 19: I mean, the super Dome gets loud, but I mean,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 19: the Jaguars should win this game.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 16: They should.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 9: But I think that's the thing about this season so
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 9: far as like teams that should don't necessarily mean they're
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 9: going to win. I mean, we saw this past week
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 9: with the Eagles and the forty nine ers falling to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 9: teams they probably shouldn't have, you know, I mean, anything
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 9: can really happen. And I mean Derek Carr is playing good.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 9: He had his highest total yardage in his first six
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 9: contests with the New Orleans Saints, and I just feel
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 9: like he's he's doing good. Like he completed thirty two
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 9: to fifty pass attempts for three hundred and fifty three
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 9: yards in a touchdown last game and I feel like
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 9: if he if he's happy, if he's having a good
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 9: maybe he can pull it off for the Saints. But
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, home crowd is always a good thing.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 9: And I mean Jacksonville they've got a lot to lose
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 9: considering that, you know, now they're top of the AFC South,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 9: Like they're not gonna want to fall to four and three.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 16: But I don't know, it could be a toss up.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 19: And I know it's like not really a matchup. They're
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 19: not playing each other, but they're running back matchup. Yeah,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 19: Alvin Kamara, who was doing this thing, is always solid back.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 19: And then you got Travis Etn, who is pretty much
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 19: like what the only good thing urban Meyer did was
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 19: drafted him. If he's been bawling out this year, I mean,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 19: you got a good I mean, it's could be there's
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 19: a chance this could be a shootout.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 9: Honestly, Yeah, I see this being more of a high
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 9: scoring game. You know, I can't speak too much for
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 9: either of the defenses, I feel like, but I just
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 9: like you said, with the running backs being who they are,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 9: and I mean even Travis Etn some games where he's
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 9: kind of shut down for the first three quarters, like
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 9: he just goes off in the final quarter and just
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 9: wins it for the Jags.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 16: So I don't know.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 9: I feel like between them, if they can have two
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 9: healthy quarterbacks, like, I see this being a high scoring.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 19: Game as as somebody with no dog in the fight.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 19: And at this point, I just want to watch good football.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 19: I just hope it's a good game. I mean out
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 19: Michaels now calls it Thursday Night games. It's been a
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 19: year and a half and has he called one interesting
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 19: game yet.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 16: They've been.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 9: I don't know who picked the Thursday night matchups, but
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 9: it's it's been tough.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: It's just like you never know.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 19: You never know because you don't want to put the
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 19: craziest games there and stuff. But yeah, I I just
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 19: something interesting about this game. It could be you know,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 19: the Jags are at least are like a fun team
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 19: to watch. Yeah, yeah, so I think this could be
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 19: a shootout. I'm going to take the Jags winning thirty
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 19: four to thirty one.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 16: Mm I like that.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the last second field goal kind of thing. I
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 9: even know, just something make it interesting, make it interesting.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna say Jacksonville I'm gonna go a little bit less,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 9: but I'm gonna say twenty seven.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 16: To twenty four.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: So here's some some questions before we run out of time.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 17: Here.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 19: Did you see the clip of Jamis kind of pleading
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 19: his case to Kamara? Is that was that after Car
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 19: threw a pick? I just like, you know, Car got
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 19: banged up a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 16: He did.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 9: I mean a lot of quarterbacks have him getting banged up, yeah,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: like two weeks.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: And also what's what's interesting.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 19: Is I mean both these teams, like the divisions are
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 19: way closer than it seems like the Saints kind of
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 19: got a win, like there's one of your few years
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 19: to do it. Yeah, if Falcons don't look great, No,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 19: the Bucks are the Bucks, and the Panthers are currently
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 19: owed six so.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, no, the Panthers aren't competing with anybody, so no
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: need to worry about that, No need to worry about.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Them peeting with us for a top pick.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 9: So oh gosh, yeah, too soon, too soon, too soon,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 9: too soon. I think it should be a good game though, hopefully.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 9: I mean, I love it's funny about al Michaels.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 16: I love him.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 9: I feel like he's a great announcer, so hopefully he
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 9: has something exciting to talk about on Thursday.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 19: So, so you have you have the Jags winning. Yes,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 19: who is your MVP of the game.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 9: Oh, I hate saying ETN because I've picked him as
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 9: a playmaker before in other games.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 16: But I don't know. I feel like I gotta go
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 16: et go.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: I think Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 16: I think he can if he grinds through it.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 19: I think he can be very happy and grind it
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 19: out and take his check.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 16: If you're listening, we hope you're so happy he's.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 19: Gonna take his Jags to a win to bump him
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 19: up to five and two.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: I believe that would be it.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 19: But guys, faith, thank you for joining the People halftime show.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 19: You're always welcome. And guys, send in those answers to
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 19: web radio Patriots dot com.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: And remember, if you got the bonus answer.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: On the first thing, you get an awesome poster.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: And you know what, those posters are probably still.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 19: Available on Patriots dot com, so check them out and
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 19: let's get back to Patriots.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: I'll filter and now Great Moments History.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: I know he's a friend of the show, but the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: pre and postgame shows have become largely about soothing or
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: feeding Hardy's ego, and he offers little actual information about
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: the team or the game. It's so frustrating.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 17: Wow, oh we should bring this. That's entirely inaccurate Hardy.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Hardy has I think, if anything
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: in this room, I think, if anything, he's got inferior complex.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 17: Yes, already I would agree.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's a very busy guy. He's got
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: ninety eight point five. Then he does series. He's got
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: the music show, you know, so he's got golf, the
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: golf show that he does. But he gets free stuff
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: for that, so I'm a little jealous.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 17: He gets clubs, he took care of custom P HG clubs.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 17: He gave you clubs. He got those he got free,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 17: and I got his leftovers.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Oh did you?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 17: He said, he gave me a set of irons nice?
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: What kind?
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 17: I don't know.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Don't look at him, you don't even look at him.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 17: No, it was just the other night when we were leaving.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: He put him in my trunk, so you're not even
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: curious to what they are.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 17: No, I'll look at him when I get a chance.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 17: I would want to know what kind of clubs I
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 17: got some new clubs.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Are you excited?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: I've been working on the set.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: Of Irons, just rolling around in the back of his car.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 17: Right in a bag. I want to know, like the Calloway,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 17: I expect that from him, not you.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: I expect you know, like I'd be excited to get
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: a new set of irons.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 16: Mike, how's your putting?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: That's another great moment from.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: That was like an Eric moment, like I latched onto something.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: Do you have an update?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: The Callaways always crushing it with Uh, I had I
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: had some good success the first time I used him.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: That's not.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 7: We had a company outing to top golf in Las Vegas.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how was that?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: It was a lot of time.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: It was really fun.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: Twelve of us.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 7: I think when you know the kids and the kids
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 7: and Choke and uh and David Silverman joined us as well.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: Now did David just walk out and get his ball
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: after every time? David didn't?
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: I yeah, he would shape. He didn't like he'd puppy.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 7: Take any swings because of his back. He said that
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 7: his back was hurting him a shoke did though, because
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 7: he Max so Junior is like ridiculously good at golf.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: So he golfs all the time.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: He looks like a good athlete. Yeah in shape.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that? And I was gonna say, what does
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: that means?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: In shape?
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 7: And so he was really good, and of course Yanick
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 7: was good, which like European like not surprising, but.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: He's on the European tour. Yeah.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: We're leaving the Raiders Stadium and it's a long walk
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: to the buses and we're the last one, so you know,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: all this come on. We gotta hurry, we gotta hurry.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: And Matt and I are trying to help Juni with equipment.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: So Max got a tripod and Junior he's got this
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: sixty pounds Pelican bag. Junior system that give me that
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: takes the tripod just starts sprinting. Matt and I are
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: like with nothing, and we're like limping behind.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's not like the biggest guy, but I feel
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 10: like he has like a really wiry.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: Athletic Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 7: He Friday night and we come back and then we
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 7: see you here the next morning. He went up for
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 7: like a run in Vegas like in the morning before
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: like before everybody else.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Was for two hours in the morning.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: I know, I was just like what because it.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I went running and like I saw this
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 7: thing over there. I was just like, you went, what, Like,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: what's a run?
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: I saw it on Instagram and I was just looking
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: at he puts someone golf. I'm like, this guy can golf.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 10: You could just tell note one of those just opened
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 10: up in Rhode Island.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: One of them just down the street.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Can't really quickly. CJ's been holding on. I want to
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: get him in before we do picks. What's up, CJ?
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 14: Hey, what was up? Guys?
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: It was uh.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 14: I wanted to call in about the topic that you
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 14: guys brought up about Belichick and the uncertainty around his contract.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 14: Do you think there's a scenario in which he could,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 14: like he wouldn't want to do this anymore, like be
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 14: on a one and you know, five team with the
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 14: projection of maybe winning three or four more games for
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 14: multiple years. Do you think there's a scenario in which
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 14: they would just come to an arrangement that he and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 14: crap and just be like, yeah, you don't have to
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 14: pay me the sixty million guaranteed or whatever, because I
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 14: don't want to do this.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have to pay him something.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the pay part I would say hard. No, is
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 7: there a possibility that he says at the end of
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 7: the year, I don't got it anymore, it's not working
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 7: or something like I maybe, but.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: Everybody just wants to go to the answer.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah again, depending on the contract, it's gonna if there's
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: time left on it, there's gonna be something. You know,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't walk away. You kidding me? All right? Anyway,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: thanks CJ. All right, Uh, it's that time of the show.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: We got a really hurry today.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: We'll get through.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: We got some buy so I don't.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Know if faith knows.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only uh, there's only thirteen games this week.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Usually Matt plays the Monday Night Football theme at this point.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's that, Paul. What happened last week?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: There's been some moving and shaking.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: The disturbance in the forest.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: There is some would say that, you.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Know, market correction, because I don't. Regression to the mean
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: is taking place with the leader. Uh so we have
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: a new Alex. Look at that.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, now I know why she came in such a fud.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Fraud terrible.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: The last I'm rushing in, did I miss?
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm good, I'm gonna go.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: Now twelve and three.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: Wow, you knew twelve and three?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 10: These away games, I get to sit home.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: You knew so?
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: Paul eleven and four, typical, Mike and Evan ten and
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: five and toughly eight in seven.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 7: I'll take ten and five d Absolutely, I'll take it
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 7: for you guys. We need some good for you guys.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: Posting guy with the bread Alex also took the top
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: spot nine to five and one's Mike and Paul eight
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: six and one, Evans seven seven and one, and Fred
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: five knowine.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: Fred's been up.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: And down like the Bills this year.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, here's the thing, and this is where
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: I have to defend my buddy Freddy. If he actually
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: did it to try to win, I think his record
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: would be better. But he has so many grievances and biases.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: Mike picks are complicated.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: His picks are complicated, perfectly put. So there's a new
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna come back the.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: Top Alex and Paul fifty nine and thirty four, followed
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: by Fred at fifty eight and thirty five, Mike fifty
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: seven and thirty.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: Six, and Evan oh No. Fifty five and thirty eight.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: We're all punched in there.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: We are all close with the spread. This is the
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: market correction. Paul forty nine, forty one in three. There
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: was another tie last week. Uh, Fred forty eight forty
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: two and three, Alex forty seven, forty three and three,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: Mike forty six, forty four and three, and heaven, oh no,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: forty three forty seven and three.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 5: I'll take it.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: How's your all twenty two film? Now?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 7: For some reason, Well, that's not too hard to do,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 7: because all I do is watch the Patriots, so.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Like you know a lot, that's where we stand kind
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: of right in go ahead robing.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I know she's pitching, right, I don't know.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: I know nothing about if you are the Patriots or
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 7: you played the Patriots.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: Like that's that's it.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: Right, You're such a frog. Like Alice was running in
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: with her laptop like, oh nice, Alex is joining us now,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: I know, unbelievable.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: Did I miss the start?
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: I really didn't think I did.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: Oh oh okay, I just I said my picks on slack.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to go after you say that, right, all right,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: we really have to hurry.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: We do have an abbreviated slate, so only thirteen games
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  Speaker 3: for a.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Minute Prime video. Tonight eight fifteen, the four to two
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are at the three and three Saints.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence is playings by two to New Orleans at home.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 8: I still think Trevor Lawrence probably a little bit banged up,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 8: So I'm gonna take the Saints at home.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: I will lay the points.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 10: I'm actually gonna take Jacksonville, and I don't really know why.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna pick the upset though I can't.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: Believe I'm losing on this girl.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 7: I am also taking the Jaguars. I just don't trust
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: the Saints. I don't trust the Jaguars a whole lot either,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 7: but I think they're a little bit better than the Saints.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: I don't really know about either one of these teams,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: but I think Jacksonville is better and I'm gonna go
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: with the Jags.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Olright my gut here said Saint because of their defense,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: and even though Lawrence is playing, I don't think he's
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So I think Saints at home with
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: their d pulls it off. Okay, Sunday at one, the
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: five and one Lions are at the four and two Ravens.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: This could be a good game, good good, good matchup.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: Baltimore by three.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: Baltimore by three, Yeah, I still. I mean, I like Detroit.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: I'm a fan.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 8: I think that in favorable situations, they're a very good team.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: I just I think Baltimore is a great test for them.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 8: It's just, you know, a tough, gretty team at home.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 8: That's a tough quarterback. So I'm gonna go with Baltimore
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 8: in this one. But I think it's a good game,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 8: and I think it'll be telling about the Lions.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna pick Ravens, and I'm going to also kind
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 10: of reluctantly give the Ravens the points too. But the
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 10: lines are fun.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: I'm believing.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 7: I'm taking the Lions in the upset. I just like
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 7: what they're doing on really both sides of the ball.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 7: But that offense. Ben Johnson, we all know that, we
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 7: talk about him on this program. He's gonna get a
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 7: head coaching job next next season, for sure.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: Not in my school district.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: I am going to take the Lions as well. I
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: don't think the Ravens have looked great even though they're
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: four and two, they're finding a way to win.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: I think Detroit keeps it going.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Paul. I think the Lions win this game.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Ravens kind of looked like the Patriots a couple of
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: years ago, when you know they weren't playing. They were
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: pulling out some wins, but you could tell there was
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: something not there. So I'm looking for the Lions here
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: one o'clock three and three, Raiders at the one in
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: five Bears.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: Raiders by three.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: I'm either going to do really well this week or
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: really bad.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: No, justin fields, not justin fields. Yeah, I think Chicago,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: if they're smart, lose every game you can.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Its a backup quarterback.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: Tyson Bagent Badgeant, Badgeant. He's like a D three kid
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: that played at the Singer Bowl.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: Oh that I might have to pick where all those
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: other studs went. Anyway, Okay, Jimmy.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 7: That was good.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna take the Raiders.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: Did you make a pick? Don't the Raiders?
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: It is Raiders cover two.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: What's up with Jimmy?
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: He's okay?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: So he went to the hospital and he could play.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, precautioner.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 7: I'm going to go with the Raiders as well, gonna
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 7: go with them to cover. I don't really think that
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 7: they're a great team either, but the Bears are just
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 7: that's a bad team.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I'm going to take the Raiders too,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: but it's more of an indictment on Chicago.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, Raiders. I think it feels was playing.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: I go with the Bears.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: I felt like Chicago had a chance to be a
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: surprise team. That was a bad pick by me preseason.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: One o'clock three and two Browns are at the three
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: and three.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: Colts Cleveland by two and a half.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I think this game comes down to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 8: Gardner Minshew versus Clevelan On's defense, and I like Cleveland's
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 8: defense in that matchup.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Clevelan didn't drop the points.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 7: What Mike said, I'll go the same. I don't feel
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 7: good about it, though, I have no idea those two teams.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am worried about Cleveland's preparation after beating San
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: Francisco last week. I'm going to take the Colts for
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: an upset. I think Minshew bounces back a little bit.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's as bad as he played last round.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 7: But don't disrespect p J. Walker all right, Oh I
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 7: will PJ Walker.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 5: He's the Browns quarterback here When they played. Was that
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: did he get he.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: Played against the the Panthers.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 7: Is he on somebody that play the Patriots? He was
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 7: on Carolina? Yeah, but I think that they started Sam
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 7: Darnold ultimately in the game against the Patriots.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: That was guy. He likes Pjah Yeah.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: J Walker is a baller.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Browns' whatevery opposite of
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: a ball what he is.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: He's very impressed with the Browns defense.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, the Browns defense is legit.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they at once. That's my three and three
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Commanders are at the one in five Giants.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: Commanders by two and a half.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 8: Giants, coming off a tough one. I am tempted in
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 8: this divisional game to take the Giants at home. However,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 8: I'm going to take the Commanders on the road. I'll
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 8: lay the points as will.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 10: I love the Commanders.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 7: I'm going to take the Commanders as well. I think
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 7: they win by three, so a slight cover.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: I suppose it's good.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 7: If you want to feel better as a Patriots fan
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 7: about the Patriots offense, watch the Giants offense because it
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 7: is as much of a train wreck as yours, if
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 7: not worse. And they have Brian Dable, who's everybody's favorite
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 7: offensive mine in football, and they are. Their film on
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 7: offense is disgusting and.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 5: A cautionary tale of just having to pay the guy,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, maybe just don't pay the guy.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about Daniel Jones.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I'm gonna take the Giants.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm gonna take the Commanders. So there, one o'clock
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: three and three Falcons are at the three and two Buccaneers.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: Uh, Bucks by two and a half dead on my
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: sheet today. Uh, this is a tough one.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: I don't have a great feel for either of these
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 8: teams right now. I'm gonna go with the home team,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 8: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and lay the points.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, coin flip for me too.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: I will also give it to the Bucks.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Falcons in this game. I
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 7: think the Falcons have a lot of talent on that roster.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it's gonna come together quick enough
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 7: this season, but I like their offense.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: And I don't love.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 7: Ridder, but I love their pieces on that side of
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 7: the ball besides Ridder.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Buccaneers home home team.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: You just skipped right over you yeap?
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Paul, Yeah.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: No one cares what the guy in first place. Thanks,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take the Bucks. But I agree with
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: what everybody said. It's a coin flip. I have no idea.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: All right, now, we we skip over Patriots at one o'clock. Yes,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: I got that.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: We got that.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 9: I did.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: Four o'clock. The three and two Steelers are at the
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: three and three Rams, Rams by three.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: Rams by three Rams at home? Can he pick it?
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: George?
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Rams at home. I don't really
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: know why.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 10: I will also take Los Angeles at home and lay
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 10: the points.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the Rams big in this game. I
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 7: really like what I've seen out of Matthew Stafford. Stafford
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: looks like he's back a little bit, and I think
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 7: I like the Rams here like that speaking.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: My language, bro, Yeah, I will take the lar as well.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: I do think Cooper Cup has now put them back
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: into that dangerous offense category. I think they moved the
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: ball and put up some points even against Pittsburgh.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all on the Rams four oh five. The
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: one in five Cardinals are at the three and two Seahawks.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: Seahawks by seven and a half the Seahawks own the Cardinals. Oh,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: thank you, right, I'm pretty sure.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 7: Don't quote me on that because there I know that there.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 7: The Seahawks own somebody in that division, and I know
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 7: it's not the think, but.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna get a little wacky, little weird. I'm gonna
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: take Seattle, but I'm gonna take those points for Arizona
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 8: and just they've got something in that divisional game, keep
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 8: it close.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 10: I'm just going to take Seattle outright and also lay
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 10: the points.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 7: I'm going to take the Cardinals or excuse me, the Seahawks,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 7: but I'm going to take the Cardinals. That's a big
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 7: spread in a division game. I'm going to take the
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 7: Cardinals to.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 10: They own the Cardinals.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure about that. That
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 7: was like a lukewarm Okay.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take Seattle too. I'm gonna do it
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 5: both ways.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: I am. I don't like the hook. That the hook.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: You took the hook. You guys took the.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: Took the hook. Alex and I are. We're not going
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: to worry about the hook.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: We're just taking straight up.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: Yep, straight up Seattle. Uh four to twenty five, the
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: two and three Packers are at the one in five
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Broncos who are playing where Paul.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: Of course in Denver, that's right, and the Packers are
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: a one point favorite.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: This is a this is a It's not a great game.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 8: Denver's defense is Terry Blay and green Bay's got a
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 8: little bit of talent. So I'm gonna take green Bay
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 8: and I will lay the point.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna take green Bay as well, playing the one
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 10: single point.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: What's the number again, Paul, green Bay by no, Yes,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: green Bay by one.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: I feel like Deuce.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 7: I feel like we might be biased because we saw
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 7: the Packers enjoying practices in person, and I keep taking
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 7: the Packers thinking that they're better than they actually are.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 7: Maybe we should have known that. I'm gonna take the Packers,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 7: though I'm sticking with it. I can't help it.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: Short makes some throws and then he doesn't make something.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: I think both of these stink on ice. But I'm
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: gonna take green Bay because I don't think green Bay
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: has done the things to lose that Denver is consistently done.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: So this is more of another one of those picks.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: I'm picking against the team green Bay.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: We need the Broncos to lose a game. So I'm
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: going to go with the Broncos to win. I mean,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: we need the Broncos to win a game. Oh okay, yeah,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: Now we're rooting for the tank. Is what we're rooting for.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: Freddy's embraced it.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 8: It's a quiet Hey, you just went no matter what,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 8: they're going to have a draft pick, and if people
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 8: who are worse than them lose games, it's a better
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 8: draft pick regardless of where it is.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 5: So that's evergreen before you've embraced the tank.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Four twenty five, the two and three Chargers are at
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: the five and one Chiefs.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: Chiefs by five and a half.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the magic of the swift man. Let's
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: go Kansas City. Lay those points.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: Shoot.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 8: I was just going to try to work in a
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 8: Taylor Swift quote, which is going to be on the board.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: For paying off is a blank space.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: You gotta get an one. It's the only song, you know.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 8: I know a lot of the songs, but I got
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 8: bad Blood in the division here I was, I was there.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: I was challenged. I was challenged with working a reference
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: in like spur of the moment, work a Taylor swift
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: reference into something, and Mike started talking about the offense like, oh,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: I mean you look at the opense just like a
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: plank space.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: And Sam gave me twenty one.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: I left.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 10: I I'm gonna go with the Chiefs. No, I was
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 10: gonna give the Chargers the points, but I'm not gonna
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 10: do that. I'm gonna give it all to the Chiefs.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 8: Get it all to the Chiefs, give it away, give
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 8: it away.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Chiefs, but I'm gonna I
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 7: am gonna give the Chargers the points because I feel
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 7: like that's so Chargers.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: That's what they do. They play tight.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 7: Games, but they always find a way to lose tight
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 7: games against good teams like they were in that game
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 7: against Dallas last week.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: Lose. I don't get it at folks.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: I'm taking the upset here.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the lack.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Wow out right. Yes, I'm not gonna go quite that far,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: but I'll take the points. You know, as the Sharps say,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: this is one of those division games.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to say that in the same division play, it's
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: one of those division games, right, the Sharps know. That's
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: why you have to listen to the shops.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: They know when they see a division game, they know
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: it eight twenty very sure. Uh, the five and one
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: Dolphins are at the five and one Eagles. Something's gonna get.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: Game of the week to a tingle almost.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: Eagles, Eagles by two and a half.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: Two and a half.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: All right, So this is this is a theory and
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 8: take development and we gloat about the Dolphins as well.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: And I think you're it was only thirteen games. You
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: got plenty of time, a right, right, Well, this is
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: I think you're on the same line too.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 8: And I don't know if this is right, but I'm
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 8: gonna go with and it's not that cold yet, but
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Dilly the home team. I think
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 8: the Dolphins, Paul said earlier this week at the Dolphins
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 8: get home field advantage, very hard to beat fast field.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 8: I don't know what the weather's gonna be like, but
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 8: this is my testing out of the theory. So I'm
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 8: gonna go with Philadelphia to win as Miami just falls close.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 8: But weather doesn't man not weather.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: But you know, saying, if.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go by every other weekend in the Northeast,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: like for the entirety of the football season. It'll be
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: rain and right.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 10: Except for that one game we've played the Saints in
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 10: perfect weather.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: That's correct. I don't remember that Philly, Philly.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: I blocked it up, Philly, Philly.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the Eagles both ways as well. I
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 7: think the one kryptonite for the Dolphins is the line
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 7: of scrimmage. They don't have a good offensive line. I
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 7: hate that matchup for the Dolphins, and I think that,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 7: you know, against these more physical teams, they I don't
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 7: know if they're going to hold up with that finesse offense.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 7: So I'm going I'm going Philly.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree in Philly. Also, coming off a bad,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: bad loss, I think they get a little bit refocused
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: that will take the Eagles.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: It should be a good game. Though.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts looked like he was in shock after that game.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: But loved, loved his post game.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Smith.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Dolphins. I think they
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: get up for this. It's a big test for them,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: and I think they pulled through.
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  Speaker 7: They did fail their last big test against Buffalo badly,
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  Speaker 7: so maybe they do.
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  Speaker 1: Monday night, eight fifteen on ABC, ESPN, he has been
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  Speaker 5: He's direct TV two TV Ola.
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  Speaker 1: The fives are at the two and four Vikings.
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  Speaker 3: No winers by six and a half of sixty and
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: a half.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, it seems like everybody's aoka after some injury
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 8: scares last week with the oblique injury, those comething.
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  Speaker 5: Mcaffreyk oblique, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'll go San Francisco a.
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  Speaker 10: Lamb Niners and give them the points, especially that Christian McCaffrey.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: What I know about that.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Niners both ways as well.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 5: They're just a lot better. Yeah.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: If Justin Jefferson were were involved in this game, maybe
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: I would take the points, but he's not, so I'm
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: gonna lay the points San Francisco both ways.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: I think we're all going forty nine is both ways. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Now we go back to one o'clock and it's the
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: four and two Bills.
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  Speaker 8: Don't hit the mic, alse you just make it at
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 8: the one in five Patriots.
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  Speaker 7: That's because we like trees.
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  Speaker 4: I'll use my laptop Buffalo by Knowine.
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  Speaker 8: Oh boy, Uh yeah, I'm gonna go with Buffalo on
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 8: this one. I'll lay the points. You know, it's just
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 8: hard to predict this Patriots team, as banged up as
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 8: they are, as many, you know, as sloppy as they played,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 8: as many wrong things they've done, to make a case
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 8: that this is the team that breaks this four game,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 8: you know, losing streak against Josh Allen, He's had their number.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 8: Him and Digs are just on another level, and I
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 8: think the banged up secondary is going to kill the Patriots.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Buffalo somewhere in the neighborhood of like
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 8: thirty one seventeen.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I hate to say it. I'm scared
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 10: for what things will look like after this, but I'm
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 10: taking the Bills, obviously giving them the points thirty four.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 7: So I said the other day that it is I
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 7: feel like this is gonna be like a take care
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 7: of business game for Buffalo.
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  Speaker 5: I still feel that way.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 7: I think the one difference is that if that Bill's
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 7: pass rush starts getting after Mac Jones, you can see
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 7: quite a few turnovers and that could make this score
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 7: look ugly. But I'm still thinking that that. You know,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 7: I think the Bills have some things that they still
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: need to work on. Offensively, They're not all the way there.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: Yet.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 7: And I was talking to people in Buffalo last night
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 7: on a podcast, and like they want to like fire
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 7: the offensive coordinator like Ken Dorsey is under all sorts
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 7: of fire because of how inconsistent the offense has been
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 7: and all this type of stuff. So I don't think
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 7: that they're firing yet at all cylinders to like win
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 7: this game by like the Cowboys score or something like that.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go Bill's twenty four Patriots thirteen Buffalo cruises.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: But it's not like a lopsided blowout.
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  Speaker 10: Allen's a little banged.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: Up, yeah, shoulder, yeah, yeah.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: I look at the game similar I think Buffalo has
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: too much offense to get shut down to the point
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: where an upset could happen barring multiple turnovers by Buffalo.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: So they're banged up, and I think that the defense
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: in particular for Buffalo is banged up in the middle.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: So if the Patriots can get off to a good
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 3: start and run the ball and shorten the game, then
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: maybe the game is closer than that, but I think
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: they'll have a hard time doing that. Twenty seven I'll
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: say twenty seven to sixteen Buffalo, so they cover yeah.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, No, everybody hasn't, I mean everything. Why didn't
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 3: you make fun of them? You're saying that Buffalo is
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: gonna cover.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 7: I think because it's you.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: Right, No, because you actually the same spread you did
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 3: eleven point, but you you.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: Went through the list of why Buffalo's not and yet
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: and then they say, and then but they're going to cover.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well because because they're better.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: You know what, I don't think the teams are close
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: for all of you, all of them.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 5: He's back.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots cover this game. So Buffalo, when you're taking the point, Yeah,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: twenty four to seventeen.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 7: That's an upset picking the Patriots.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: Well, however, I'll be thrilled.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 5: All that tails is like they get the last score
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: in Fred's.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: The winner, twenty four to seventeen, Patriots, Buffalo. I know, listen,
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: I was picked Buffalo. The weird weird things happened. I
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: was tempted to take the Patriots this game, you know
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. But but no, but like we're really close
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: to it with the Patriots, and you know, we're kind
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: of all in shock about how bad the season is going.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: But not every week, but a lot of weeks, there's
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: that one team that holy crap, they beat SO and so?
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: Why not us? Why can't we be that team now?
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 7: Spirit?
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: I mean the Giants, right.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: They should have won last week.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: They had the ball in their hand on the one
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 5: yard they did have that. I will agree with you there,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 5: that's I think.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: They should think they should have won the game.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so things, crazy things can happen. Why not? But
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: you know, with all the entries we have, you know,
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: it's but we'll cover. We'll cover, We'll make it a game.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: We'll make it again.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 3: Break. Thanks, good job right over?
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: All right, So coming up next Catch twenty two with
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: Evan and Alex, I'll talk more about chicken wings I'm sure. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and then the pregame show ten.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 5: Forty five, Yeah, ten forty five, all.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: Right, then the game, then the postgame show. We'll see
• 2:00:21
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