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Speaker 1: It's the reformed tonight, Donald Trump versus the Pope. How
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Speaker 1: come the Pope never criticized Iran? My nation's newest stalars
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Speaker 1: is the plot channeling is in a Tucker Carlson and
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Speaker 1: a huge court victory for Lesbians born as women. But first,
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Speaker 1: the Albanies he governs struggled today to deal with the
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Speaker 1: liberals new get tough policy on immigration, and some flavor's
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Speaker 1: reaction have to say was frankly dishonest, hysterical. Now you
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Speaker 1: saw yesterday Opposition leader Angus Taler say enough, you know
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Speaker 1: you wanted tougher tests now on immigrants to stop people
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Speaker 1: who don't share our values, and tougher laws to make
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Speaker 1: them leave if they don't. He cited cultural reasons, but
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Speaker 1: also economic ones.
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Speaker 2: Not everyone wanting to migrate to Australia will be a
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Speaker 2: net benefit to it Australia. Indeed, some will be in
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Speaker 2: their train.
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Speaker 1: Now that line got some on the left upset. The
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Speaker 1: City Morning Herald ran this headline, Angus Taylor claims too
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Speaker 1: many self serving migrants are draining the nation, calling it
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Speaker 1: inflammatory and labor head kicker. MP Jerome Laxeu even swore
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Speaker 1: at Taylor.
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Speaker 3: He said that too many self serving migrants are draining
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Speaker 3: our nation. Now, I can't tell you how unbelievably this
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Speaker 3: is from Angus Taylor. I represent one of the most
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Speaker 3: multicultural electorates in the country. Sixty six percent have one
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Speaker 3: or more parent born overseas. Fifty four percent of them
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Speaker 3: were born overseas as well? Is Angus Taylor saying that
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Speaker 3: people have been along our self serving and draining our nation?
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Speaker 1: No, he wasn't. Now three things about that labour ad one.
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Speaker 1: Here is a labor mp immediately making an impossible, ever
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Speaker 1: serious discussion about immigration, immediately playing race politics. How do
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Speaker 1: you offend these migrants? Two fifty four percent of the
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Speaker 1: people in Benelong of Sydney electorate were born overseas. Doesn't
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Speaker 1: that strike you as astonishing? How do we your cultural
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Speaker 1: unity when the Australian component is so diluted? But three
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Speaker 1: laxal is dishonest? Taylor, who actually, by the way, during
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Speaker 1: a speech, went out of his way to praise the
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Speaker 1: majority of migrants. Out of his way, he clearly intended
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Speaker 1: no such insults of those margarets of Benelong. And one
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Speaker 1: reason for that is this, here's the place of birth
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Speaker 1: of residence of Benlong forty eight percent were born in Australia,
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Speaker 1: then China fourteen percent, followed by India, South Korea and
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Speaker 1: Hong Kong in order. Does anyone, even Luxu seriously think
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Speaker 1: that Angus Taylor was referring to margarets from China, India,
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Speaker 1: South Korea and Hong Kong when he said some margaret
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Speaker 1: a drain on the economy. Ce Angus Taylor would know
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Speaker 1: as well as I that surveys confirmed that Chinese and
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Speaker 1: Indian immigrants and probably South Koreans, for all I know,
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Speaker 1: and I suspect that it's true, are on the whole
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Speaker 1: more at law abiding than Australians and successful. Oxard is
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Speaker 1: just trying to create race based resentments for labor to exploit. Again, now,
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Speaker 1: the fact is that Taylor is actually right about some
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Speaker 1: migrants though being a drain if you measure by money,
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Speaker 1: you know, if you take what they add and minus
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Speaker 1: what they take in welfare, health, education and services. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and you know who says that. The federal government, the
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Speaker 1: Treasury Department, published a report four and a half years
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Speaker 1: ago on the lifetime fiscal impact of the of Australian
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Speaker 1: Permanent migration program. I said, yes, skilled margrants especially well.
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Speaker 1: They did contribute a lot. Okay, but others cost us.
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Speaker 1: For instance, the average humanitarian migrant cost US four hundred
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars per person. Parent visa holders about the same
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Speaker 1: on average three hundred and ninety four thousand dollars for
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Speaker 1: primary parents that we let in for family reunions. Now,
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Speaker 1: what this study didn't do and probably didn't dare as
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Speaker 1: the measure the results for different ethnic groups. To compare now,
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Speaker 1: as I showed you last night, a Dutch study found
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Speaker 1: big differences there. I mean singled out the Middle East
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Speaker 1: and Africa. But that is not a debate the liberals
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Speaker 1: right now, dare or labor will allow. As I said
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Speaker 1: last night, oh you were, Taylor's stuffer talk was good
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Speaker 1: as a first step, but is yet to say what
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Speaker 1: practical steps will do to achieve it. Now. It's true
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Speaker 1: he did get a couple of suggestions from him to
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Speaker 1: get on with, but most of what he said sounded basically,
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Speaker 1: you know, more of the same what's being done now,
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Speaker 1: only done more seriously with more people or whatever. Hoffairs
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Speaker 1: Mister Tony Burke tried to make that point when he
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Speaker 1: came out swinging today attacked the liberals promise to kick
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Speaker 1: out sixty five thousand foreigners who'd outstayed their visas. Burke
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Speaker 1: said the Liberals had left with more than that number,
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Speaker 1: and he'd been kicking out.
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Speaker 4: More since we've been getting the numbers down. My simple
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Speaker 4: message to anyone who thinks, what do you do when
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Speaker 4: your visa runs out? You should leave?
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Speaker 1: Well, gee, that's going to work, isn't it? Politely asking
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Speaker 1: the overstays to leave pretty please? I don't think that
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Speaker 1: cuts it. Angus Tayley yesterday also promised to test again
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Speaker 1: the three thousand people from terrorists on Gaza who'd be
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Speaker 1: given tourism visas by this government to come here. Burke
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Speaker 1: today put on the outrage.
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Speaker 4: There has never been a cohort with more security checks
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Speaker 4: than this particular cohort.
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Speaker 1: Annie mentioned two women had got some of his vis Christians.
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Speaker 4: They happen to be two women, a mother and daughter,
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Speaker 4: who had been hiding in the church where they practice.
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Speaker 4: They had spent years prior to October seven living in
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Speaker 4: fear of hamas, and then post October seven living in
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Speaker 4: fear of bombs or sniper fire while they hid in
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Speaker 4: their church. For them to be wrapped up in some
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Speaker 4: sort of you are not trustworthy, you are part of
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Speaker 4: the exact regime that was terrorizing you. It's just really
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Speaker 4: ugly politics.
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Speaker 1: But that's just Those women are just two of the
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Speaker 1: three thousand Gazans Burke led in, and I would bet
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Speaker 1: my house that most weren't Christians. Certainly the ones i've
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Speaker 1: seen him welcome, they weren't. And let's not forget that
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Speaker 1: five Wison refugees we did let in, although not from Gaza,
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Speaker 1: have staged terrorists that tacks here, that killed five people.
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Speaker 1: So let me finish by making a suggestion that liberals
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Speaker 1: could take up to put meat on the bones of
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Speaker 1: their policy. Let's hope labor matches it. What's the bet?
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Speaker 1: You see? Germany has already toughened up its citizenship tests
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Speaker 1: two years ago. It added twelve questions to its test,
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Speaker 1: all asking immigrants about Jews, multiple choice questions like what
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Speaker 1: is the penalty for denying the Holocaust? What is an
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Speaker 1: example of anti Semitic behavior? What is Germany's special responsibility
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Speaker 1: to Jews? Ah? I think something similar here would probably
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Speaker 1: be pretty good, but whatever, At least we now have
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Speaker 1: the debate and immigration that has denied us for so long.
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Speaker 1: But let's hope it's a debate that Labour doesn't manage
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Speaker 1: this time to shout down. The Prime Minister is now
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Speaker 1: on his way to malays to do what he did
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Speaker 1: today in Brunei and last week in Singapore. He's begging
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Speaker 1: them for more fossil fuels for them to keep supplying
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Speaker 1: Australia with petrol and diesel, plus a bit of fertilizer
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Speaker 1: from Brunei as well, which is made from gas, another
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Speaker 1: fossil fuel. Now, this fuel crisis could actually end before
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Speaker 1: that long. And Donald Trump, for one, has been saying
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Speaker 1: today that the US could be back in Pakistan on
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Speaker 1: the weekend for another round of peace thoughts with Iran.
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Speaker 1: But if there is no peace, we are in huge strife,
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Speaker 1: The International Monetary Funds said the whole world this morning.
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Speaker 5: Overnight, the closing of the Strait of Hormus and serious
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Speaker 5: damage to critical energy facilities in the Middle East raised
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Speaker 5: the prospect of a major energy crisis should a durable
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Speaker 5: solution not be found soon. Now, the impact of the
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Speaker 5: war will be uneven. Low income energy importers are highly exposed,
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Speaker 5: especially those with pre existing vulnerabilities and limited buffer.
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Speaker 1: Now, the IMF says, if the worst happens, global inflation
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Speaker 1: is going to hit six percent, and it also warns
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Speaker 1: of Australia's growth will now be down to two percent
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Speaker 1: and inflation up to four percent. But Treasurer Jim Chalmers
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Speaker 1: claims incredibly we're prepared.
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Speaker 6: This is a really dangerous time for the global economy.
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Speaker 6: The International Monetary Fund is expecting slower growth and higher
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Speaker 6: inflation around the world than we are as well, so
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Speaker 6: the IMF is sounding the alarm on some pretty severe scenarios.
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Speaker 6: Now Australia is better placed and better prepared than a
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Speaker 6: number of other countries, but we won't be spared the
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Speaker 6: fallout from this very substantial economic shock.
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Speaker 1: Joining me is the political panel Camera Milner Form which
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Speaker 1: ire for stuff to labor, Leady Bill Shorten, now director
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Speaker 1: of GXO Strategies, and Michael Costa, former New South Wales
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Speaker 1: labor Treasurer. Okay, Michael, we're told we're better prepared. Jim
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Speaker 1: Thomas tells us that's the spite having him having spent
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Speaker 1: madly given us already rising inflation, shocking productivity, a decade
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Speaker 1: of debt to come. Here's the treasure at kidding us.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, he's kidding us. Look this bloke's becoming in the
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Speaker 7: ultimate blame thrower, you know. I mean Trump had the
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Speaker 7: art of the When this guy leaves, he should write
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Speaker 7: the art of blame throwing because he's good at it.
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Speaker 1: Town.
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Speaker 7: You know, everybody else is responsible other than he. I mean, yes,
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Speaker 7: we have got a short term problem in our energy markets,
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Speaker 7: and hopefully they will be resolved, but the problems we
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Speaker 7: face in Australia will result from a structural deficit in
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Speaker 7: the economy. You know, the inflation was there before all
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Speaker 7: of this happened. His kidness by trying to blame external factors.
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Speaker 7: And I noticed that when he talked about better prepared
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Speaker 7: than other countries, you didn't mention that he's probably talking
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Speaker 7: about developing countries in Africa or something, because we're certainly
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Speaker 7: not better prepared than.
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Speaker 8: All of those countries.
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Speaker 7: They did what the International Energy Agency wanted and had
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Speaker 7: their ninety day buffer.
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Speaker 8: I mean, that's the fundamental problem in the short term.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 7: Further than that, Andrew, I mean, you know, he's talking
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Speaker 7: about a budget which is supposed to make us better prepared,
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Speaker 7: but all I've heard is he wants to control the
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Speaker 7: rate of growth of certain things, not cut back on
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Speaker 7: it control the rate of growth. That means essentially putting
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Speaker 7: some bogus figures in the forward estimates to look good.
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Speaker 8: And in addition to that, he has done nothing in
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Speaker 8: terms of maintaining a stable revenues supply.
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Speaker 7: He's now looking at more taxes and we see all
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Speaker 7: the sort of balloons that have been floated on that.
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Speaker 8: So look, he's absolutely kidding us. More examples of blame throwing.
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Speaker 1: And I must say, Nora, are we as prepared as
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Speaker 1: America was America when drill baby drill and is now
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Speaker 1: self sufficient in fuel oil? Now, Cameron, have you got
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Speaker 1: anything to say against what we just heard? Well, no,
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Speaker 1: I have to agree with Michael.
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Speaker 9: I mean, this is a government that's badly underprepared, and
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Speaker 9: it's a government that's obviously inherited unprepared as for the
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Speaker 9: previous group as well. But yes, we've got oil, we've
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Speaker 9: got gas. I mean, you know, planes don't fly on
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Speaker 9: solar panels and Australia drives on diesel. And there's the realities,
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Speaker 9: and they're always the reality. But the fact is a
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Speaker 9: Michael's point that we didn't even have ninety days for
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Speaker 9: our national fuel security is an appalling, appalling circumstance, and
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Speaker 9: that's why the Prime Minister is running around cap in
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Speaker 9: hand to Asian countries hoping they have some fuel for us,
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Speaker 9: rather than relying on our own reserves. It's about time
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Speaker 9: we stop for ourselves and as Michael said.
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Speaker 1: Before, we should frack more, we should.
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Speaker 9: Do more and more gas and we should be more
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Speaker 9: self reliant as a nation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that of course requires junking the net zero
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Speaker 1: crusade or ghad Michael about that trip that Cameron mentioned
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Speaker 1: as Singapore, Brunei, Malaysia to USK for more fuel, I
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Speaker 1: think it's actually good. There's some criticism of of the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister for going there. I think it's good that
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Speaker 1: it's at least traying, even if it's mainly to get
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Speaker 1: camera shots of him trying. I'm not sure what hard
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Speaker 1: Promis is actually getting though. But what does all this
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Speaker 1: tell you?
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Speaker 8: Well, it tells you what I've always said about this bloke.
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Speaker 8: He's a clueless slogan peddler. I mean, you know this
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Speaker 8: is just for the camera.
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Speaker 7: I mean, if he really wants to do something, you
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Speaker 7: want to just go to the office next door and
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Speaker 7: talk to you know, that dim or dim what I
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Speaker 7: should call him. Now Chris Bowen, I mean, we had
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Speaker 7: him this week telling us that certainly EV's was the solution.
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Speaker 8: To some of our problems. And we know that even
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Speaker 8: on the current rates, you would.
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Speaker 7: Never have a full fluid of EVS for you know,
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Speaker 7: probably four or five decades.
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Speaker 8: In addition to that, this bloke claims we don't need
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Speaker 8: fossil fuels. I mean, you know, what are we doing
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Speaker 8: with a complete idiot here?
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Speaker 7: I mean, we need it for steel, we need it
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Speaker 7: for fertilizer, we need it for plastics, we needed for
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Speaker 7: some man's aviation fuel. Yet this fool is out there
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Speaker 7: telling us we don't need fossil fuels. So how do
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Speaker 7: we better off gone? Next off us and getting rid
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Speaker 7: of that bloke that's sitting in that job, because that's
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Speaker 7: the problem.
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Speaker 1: I have to say. You know, Chris Bone did, indeed
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Speaker 1: this week say we don't need more fossil fuels, just
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Speaker 1: with his bosses in Asia begging for them today. I
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Speaker 1: thought it was bizarre. Former US President Joe Biden, I mean,
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Speaker 1: this guy is on the left, of course, but especially
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Speaker 1: coordinated for energy security, said such claims that you know,
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Speaker 1: like bones making or they didn't reference bone are you know,
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Speaker 1: that we don't need fossil fuels. They are renewables, they
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Speaker 1: are effective. Way to go false false false. Let me
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Speaker 1: play it to you and Bone's reaction because when he
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Speaker 1: was asked about today he didn't back down.
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Speaker 10: Listen, renewables don't compete with oil, they compete with natural gas,
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Speaker 10: they compete with coll They don't provide solutions to aviation.
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Speaker 1: We fly alight, we need that fuel.
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Speaker 10: We have shipping we can arie on war shipping that
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Speaker 10: doesn't run on renewables. The inside of an electric vehicle
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Speaker 10: is all made a pla stick and other products that
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Speaker 10: are made from fuel from petroleum. Our hospitals are entirely
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Speaker 10: mean of petroleum, right, I mean our masks are syringers,
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Speaker 10: MRI machines, CT scouts all need helium gas that comes
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Speaker 10: from natural gas.
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Speaker 8: Well, I have a different perspective.
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Speaker 11: I see the electrification and renewables take up as being
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Speaker 11: an important part of the mix.
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Speaker 1: Chris Berne is a different perspective, Cameron, to one that
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Speaker 1: I think you've actually written about too. Wasn't just that
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Speaker 1: guy that we heard from You've written the same thing.
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Speaker 1: You can't do without this stuff.
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Speaker 9: No, as I said, Australia runs on fossil fuels. I mean,
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Speaker 9: our farmers, our miners, our trucks all need diesel. And
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Speaker 9: look at the price of diesel and it the bowser.
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Speaker 9: You know, petrol wmant to come down a bit, but
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Speaker 9: diesels going through the roof still why because we need
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Speaker 9: it to run our nation. And of course you're never
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Speaker 9: going to have a solar panel. Replace that on a plane.
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Speaker 9: Planes that run on batteries, and evs aren't in tractors.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the problem, and that.
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Speaker 9: Is that the unreality when you drive for one inner
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Speaker 9: city suburb to pick up your Lata larte, so from
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Speaker 9: the next inner city suburb you can use the EV
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Speaker 9: or maybe a bicycle, but you can't run a nation
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Speaker 9: without diesel.
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Speaker 1: Michael Costla, what did you make of that exchange? The
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Speaker 1: guy putting a very coach in case why you can't
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Speaker 1: do without fossil fuels, and Cristpondes saying that's not my perspective.
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Speaker 7: Well, that's why he shouldn't be in the job. Andrew,
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Speaker 7: he's got no idea. He's a dimwat as I called him.
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Speaker 7: You know, I mean even the EV's they're coal power
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Speaker 7: at evs.
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Speaker 8: Let's not kidd ourselves here. You know how electricity grid.
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Speaker 7: Still relies on coal power. Those evs are being charged
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Speaker 7: primarily by coal. It's an absolute nonsense. But you know
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Speaker 7: what really is frustrating is that he's so narrow. I
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Speaker 7: mean all of those points that he made, and Cameron
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Speaker 7: just made and I made a few moments ago about fertilizers,
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Speaker 7: I mean about plastics, about cement, aviation fuel and steel.
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Speaker 8: Well, why hasn't he addressed any of that? I mean,
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Speaker 8: he's a dimwatt and he should be out of the job.
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Speaker 1: Now, Cameron. Obviously the quickest way to solve this fuel
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Speaker 1: crisis would be to help clear the straight up umors
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Speaker 1: of Iranian mines and suicide drones and then let oil
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Speaker 1: takers through to use it. Again. I mean, America's starting
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Speaker 1: this work, but you know we're not doing anything obviousitional leadering.
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Speaker 1: The status suggests that that we do just that.
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Speaker 2: Here is Australia should be providing whatever support we reasonably
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Speaker 2: can to make sure we get the straight up humas
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Speaker 2: opened up.
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Speaker 1: Now we don't know what requests have been received.
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Speaker 2: There's all sorts of ambiguity about that from the government,
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Speaker 2: but we want the Strada humas opened up, and we
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Speaker 2: want it done as quickly as possible because that will
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Speaker 2: put down a pressure on the price at the bowser
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Speaker 2: for all Australians.
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Speaker 1: Why is the Albinizi government refusing to offer any practical
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Speaker 1: help to get the oil flowing again, you know? And
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Speaker 1: that's when Iran's blockade could destroy our economy. And all
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Speaker 1: he does is sign a letter saying, please, please, can
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Speaker 1: you let the oil through? I mean really well. Alba
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Speaker 1: wants us to be a nation of leaners, not lifters.
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Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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Speaker 9: He wants to lean on Singapore, lean on brune I,
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Speaker 9: lean on Leisia, little Nemos and MOUs. For goodness sake,
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Speaker 9: it's our our fuel supply going through the most. America
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Speaker 9: doesn't need it, certainly doesn't need it. We do, and
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Speaker 9: we should be putting naval ships there. We should be
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Speaker 9: putting our defense there along with countries like the France
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Speaker 9: and UK. Step out of the way, you know, get
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Speaker 9: your ships in place, look after our oil supply, look
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Speaker 9: after our fuel security, and step up as a nation
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Speaker 9: rather than leaning on our neighbors.
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Speaker 1: Michael Costa camer Milner, thank you very much to you both.
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Speaker 1: After the break, one nation goes too far today and
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Speaker 1: I am calling it out. Give you the latest on
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Speaker 1: the war in Iran. Saw some today One Nation, what
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Speaker 1: a disappointment here is mean while you see another war,
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Speaker 1: of course, and it's mutch deadly. Russia's full scale invasion
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Speaker 1: of you Ukraine horrific. It's somehow Ukraine has fought Russia
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Speaker 1: to a standstill, inflicted huge casualties. At least one point
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Speaker 1: two million Russian soldiers dead are injured. Now the hitler
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Speaker 1: in this horror is clearly the corrupt Russian president Vladimir Putin,
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Speaker 1: the war criminal. Yet in the crazy far right of
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Speaker 1: American fringe media, it's actually the Ukrainian president, a Jew,
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Speaker 1: a former comedian, who is the villain now Mad Tucker
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Speaker 1: Carlson Jew hating Candice owns they hate him. It's just
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Speaker 1: dreadful and how shocking today to hear Cory Bernardi, the
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Speaker 1: One Nation leader of South Australia, someone I've liked and
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Speaker 1: had time for today, spout the kind of lines that
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Speaker 1: sounds straight from Attacker Carlson's script. Zelenski's a giant BS artist.
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Speaker 1: He's been milking money from all over the world. He
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Speaker 1: wanted to actually a new Russia. If I recall, Selenski
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Speaker 1: is not milking the world, it's actually fighting for his
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Speaker 1: nation's survival. America doesn't give him weapons anymore. In his
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Speaker 1: latest deals as selling Ukrainian drone to the Middle East
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Speaker 1: in exchange for oils and loans. And it's never threatened
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Speaker 1: to Russia. How could he Ukraine gave up its nuclear
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Speaker 1: weapons to Russia in exchange for broken promises of peace.
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Speaker 1: It's actually Vladimir Putin has repeatedly threatened nuclear war, and
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Speaker 1: not just against Ukraine but against the West. Now, why
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Speaker 1: is Bernardi spouting such utter nonsense, pro Putin nonsense like
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Speaker 1: he did four years ago?
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Speaker 12: Okay, if you asked me, Putin, the Russian leader, is
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Speaker 12: being used as the boogeyman for everything that Western politicians
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Speaker 12: would rather not talk about or resolve.
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Speaker 1: O poor, misunderstood little Putin. I thought one nation was
20:54
Speaker 1: trying to become a serious party, not a hangout for
20:57
Speaker 1: conspiracy nutters and fringe dwellers and Putin lovers. By the way,
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Speaker 1: I last night told you about Ukraine's astonishing advances in
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Speaker 1: drone warfare. The stuff it's also selling to the Middle East,
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Speaker 1: you know, the ingenuity stuff that our own army must
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Speaker 1: learn from well.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 1: As soon as said that, President Zelenski announced another advance.
21:20
Speaker 1: I have to show you this a ground attack conducted
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Speaker 1: entirely by drones.
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Speaker 13: a three missage. Bishops did.
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Speaker 1: Incredible stuff and all done, invented, produced, manufactured in unbelievable
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Speaker 1: wartime conditions. But now to the war in Iran. We
22:10
Speaker 1: are halfway through a two weeks ceasefar which the US
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Speaker 1: has actually cleverly used to impose a blockade. As of Monday,
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Speaker 1: and all Iran sports and all tankers carrying Iranian oil,
22:21
Speaker 1: not one ship has gone through since, including a tanker
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Speaker 1: that was Chinese flagged, although twenty ships from other Gulf
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Speaker 1: nations they were allowed through by the Americans through the
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Speaker 1: straight up Ulmors in twenty four hours. Now, this blockade
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Speaker 1: of Iranian oil, it doesn't just deny around the money
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Speaker 1: that desperately needs with its economy shattered. If this goes
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Speaker 1: on for a week, Iran will run out of oil
22:50
Speaker 1: storage and have to cap its oil wells, and if
22:53
Speaker 1: it does that, they're going to take a long time
22:55
Speaker 1: to undo. So this puts massive pressure in Iran on
23:00
Speaker 1: its biggest back of China, because the oil of the
23:02
Speaker 1: Americans stopping includes a lot for China. And this may
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Speaker 1: explain why Donald Trump says Iran may be prepared now
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Speaker 1: for more peace talks on the weekend. We're not finished.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I think they want to make
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Speaker 1: it deal very badly. Joining me is Skyne New's defense
23:20
Speaker 1: analyst Peter Jennings, who's had senior roles in our defense
23:24
Speaker 1: department and headed the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. To the
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Speaker 1: rage of China, I must say, Peter, thank you for
23:31
Speaker 1: your time. Where is this more going? It seems to
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Speaker 1: me that Iran's regime is now under more pressure than
23:37
Speaker 1: many media reports would suggest.
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Speaker 11: Yes, it certainly is under pressure, but it can also
23:47
Speaker 11: handle a lot of pressure. I don't think that we're
23:51
Speaker 11: going to see successful peace talks resume this weekend. If
23:56
Speaker 11: the Iranian leadership has been able to withstand six weeks
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Speaker 11: of bombing, they'll be able to withstand six days or
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Speaker 11: more of a blockade, and therefore what I think is
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Speaker 11: going to happen. Much as Donald Trump would like to
24:09
Speaker 11: see some deal negotiated between the two countries, I think
24:14
Speaker 11: Around is going to continue to hold out. And that
24:17
Speaker 11: means to say Trump will have, in maybe a week
24:20
Speaker 11: or so's time, a pretty clear and difficult choice Andrew.
24:24
Speaker 11: He can bring US forces home and declear victory which
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Speaker 11: no one will believe, or he can continue to prosecute
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Speaker 11: a military effort against the Iranian leadership, and that's code
24:37
Speaker 11: for regime change.
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Speaker 1: You know.
24:39
Speaker 11: It's always been my view that the only way the
24:41
Speaker 11: Americans could get what they claimed they wanted on the
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Speaker 11: nuclear weapons and the missiles was to give effect to
24:47
Speaker 11: regime change in Tehran, because that's what will continue to
24:50
Speaker 11: drive that Iranian priority. So to be a pessimist, my
24:56
Speaker 11: prediction is the blockade is good, but it's not going
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Speaker 11: to turn the Iranian regime into peace next anytime soon,
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Speaker 11: and therefore the chances are that we're going to find
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Speaker 11: ourselves back into a bombing war in a relatively short
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Speaker 11: space of time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not so convinced that they wanted regime change,
25:17
Speaker 1: because that's so unpredictable and could lead if he reigned
25:20
Speaker 1: in history is any guide to a lot of bloodshed.
25:22
Speaker 1: I think they just wanted someone to emerge from the
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Speaker 1: existing regime who was a different face of promising a
25:28
Speaker 1: different direction as they got in Venezuela. But look, I
25:32
Speaker 1: suspect you may be right. There may be a quick
25:34
Speaker 1: spur to boeing and then with new targets, declear that
25:37
Speaker 1: was enough, that was the final blow, and then leave.
25:40
Speaker 1: But we'll see. The media, meanwhile, was obsessing about Donald
25:43
Speaker 1: Trump's war of words with the Pope, who said the
25:47
Speaker 1: war was unlawful and just in a failure. Thee then
25:49
Speaker 1: falsely claimed, oh no, I was just preaching the gospel
25:53
Speaker 1: and posted that God does not bless any conflict anyone
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Speaker 1: who's a discipled of Christ, the Prince of Peace, is
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Speaker 1: never on the side those who once wielded the sword,
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Speaker 1: which I have to say, Peter, will come as a
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Speaker 1: surprise the Bible readers who remember the story of David
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Speaker 1: killing the giant Goliath in battle to stop a wider war,
26:12
Speaker 1: then cutting off the glive's head with a sword, and
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Speaker 1: Christ called himself the son of David. Isn't the story
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Speaker 1: of David of fighting now to stop more people being
26:23
Speaker 1: killed later the story of Trump's war at least his
26:25
Speaker 1: motivation and Israels for getting into it.
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Speaker 11: Well, I'm not so sure I can help you on
26:33
Speaker 11: the Old Testament analogies, but what it will say is
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Speaker 11: the Catholic Church has had centuries shame on you for
26:39
Speaker 11: not reading your Bible developing.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, I've read the Bible.
26:44
Speaker 11: But let me take you to a new thought here,
26:47
Speaker 11: which is about just war theory. You know, the Catholic
26:50
Speaker 11: Church over centuries developed a concept of what it was
26:54
Speaker 11: to fight a just war, which was based on things
26:56
Speaker 11: like did a country have a sense that it was
26:58
Speaker 11: under genuine threat? Did they try to find a peaceful
27:01
Speaker 11: way out? Was the methods that they used proportionate to
27:05
Speaker 11: the aims that they wanted to achieve? Now, the Pope
27:09
Speaker 11: Leo seems to have forgotten that, but you could People
27:12
Speaker 11: would have different views, but you could actually construct a
27:16
Speaker 11: just war theory argument to say that what the Americans
27:19
Speaker 11: have been doing with Iran over the last six weeks
27:22
Speaker 11: is a just war. And I'm disappointed really that the
27:26
Speaker 11: Pope has gone down that path to be so critical.
27:29
Speaker 11: I think both he and the President would have been
27:31
Speaker 11: better if they'd stuck in their separate lanes. There's a
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Speaker 11: reason why church and state are separate in democracies, and
27:38
Speaker 11: if only they'd shown a bit more willingness to sort
27:41
Speaker 11: of plow their own furrows, I think it would have
27:44
Speaker 11: been better both for the Holy See and for the
27:46
Speaker 11: President of the United States.
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Speaker 1: Well said Peter Jennings. It required a Switzerland to adjudicate,
27:53
Speaker 1: and you were that man. Thank you so much indeed
27:56
Speaker 1: for your time. Really appreciated after the break. A big
27:59
Speaker 1: court win today over transgender activists by lesbians who are
28:03
Speaker 1: born female. But why does it take a court to
28:07
Speaker 1: step in? Well, well, well, isn't the tide turning? The
28:16
Speaker 1: Federal Court today upheld an appeal by a group called
28:20
Speaker 1: Lesbians Born Female, which is exactly what it says. This
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Speaker 1: is a group that had been banned by the austraining
28:26
Speaker 1: Human Rights Commission from holding events just for lesbians born
28:30
Speaker 1: as women, which would exclude people born as men self evidently,
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Speaker 1: but who now identified as women now. The Human Rights
28:39
Speaker 1: Commissioner refused to give the lesbians an exception from the
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Speaker 1: Sex Discrimination Actor whole events like dancers just for them
28:45
Speaker 1: and not for transgender women. Now the lesbians for now
28:49
Speaker 1: won that right on technical legal grounds to intricate to
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Speaker 1: explain here, but only up to a point, because the
28:54
Speaker 1: case now has to go back to the Administry of
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Speaker 1: Appeals Tribunal for a fresh hearing with different people to
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Speaker 1: finally decide whether these lesbians can associate with whomever they choose.
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Speaker 1: Joining me is Rowan Deina. It's from Chief of the
29:10
Speaker 1: Spectator Australia, hosts of Outside Is every Sunday at nine am,
29:14
Speaker 1: host of his own show and Friday's at seven pm.
29:16
Speaker 1: Author of a magnificent book, by the way, lightly disguised
29:19
Speaker 1: the autobiography. I highly recommend it. Rowan Dean Is had
29:24
Speaker 1: a good decision by the court.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's a long overdue decision. It's a fantastic decision, Andrew.
29:31
Speaker 14: But it's not this one group and not the only
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Speaker 14: lesbians or female groups who have suffered because of this
29:38
Speaker 14: idiotic law and the reason that it has been such
29:42
Speaker 14: a struggle. Pretty much anything in this country, if there's
29:45
Speaker 14: a problem with it, you can trace it back to
29:46
Speaker 14: a labor government decision, and this is no exception. Two
29:50
Speaker 14: decades ago, Julia Gillard was Prime Minister and she changed
29:54
Speaker 14: the Sex Discrimination Act. A lot of people at the
29:57
Speaker 14: times that don't do this, but of course, being labor,
29:59
Speaker 14: they just went ahead and did it, regardless of the
30:01
Speaker 14: negative consequences to so many people's lives, especially women's lives.
30:05
Speaker 14: This is the great misogyny hero by the way, she
30:08
Speaker 14: changed the Sex Discrimination Act deliberately to eradicate women and men.
30:14
Speaker 14: So instead of the sex discrimination laws being about men
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Speaker 14: being men and women being women and that was it,
30:20
Speaker 14: they changed it on no, no, no, anyone who wants
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Speaker 14: to be a man as a man, and anyone who
30:23
Speaker 14: wants to be a woman is a woman, which has
30:26
Speaker 14: led to endless problems, dreadful lives for many many people.
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Speaker 14: Just as a side note, Andrew, notice how it's always
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Speaker 14: the men trying to get into the women's groups.
30:37
Speaker 15: You never hear it the other way around.
30:38
Speaker 14: It's never all these strange women trying to get into
30:41
Speaker 14: the gay men's groups. But anyway, that's a different thing.
30:44
Speaker 14: Maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't noticed it. I five
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Speaker 14: or six years ago, I was doing a documentary for
30:50
Speaker 14: Sky up in Brisbane. There was another lesbian group up
30:52
Speaker 14: in Brisbane who'd been hounded out of the LGBTI mighty
30:58
Speaker 14: Gras parade. The woman I can't remember her name unfortunately,
31:01
Speaker 14: but she had established the lesbian group in Brisbane back
31:05
Speaker 14: in the seventies.
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Speaker 15: She was a hero of the lesbian movement.
31:09
Speaker 14: She'd been kicked out of that year's Mardi Gras and
31:12
Speaker 14: subsequent Mardi Gras because she and her friends did not
31:16
Speaker 14: want men males in their lesbian group. They'd been demonized,
31:20
Speaker 14: they'd been hounded. There's any number of lesbian girls who
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Speaker 14: have been called transphobic because some bloke has tried to
31:27
Speaker 14: crack onto them, telling them that they're a lesbian and
31:30
Speaker 14: they said, well, actually you look like a male to me.
31:32
Speaker 14: I'm not interested, and they get called transphobic and get
31:35
Speaker 14: all sorts of problems. This thing has been so destructive
31:38
Speaker 14: to so many people's lines. That's before that's just the
31:41
Speaker 14: lesbian community. Then get into just the broader female community.
31:45
Speaker 14: Sal Grover, who was at the same meeting with Catherine
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Speaker 14: Deeve's Holy Lawford Smith and others in Brisbane all those
31:51
Speaker 14: years ago, five or six years ago.
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Speaker 15: Saldrov has spent five or.
31:55
Speaker 14: Six years battling because she had a wonderful idea of
31:58
Speaker 14: setting up a women's only app that you can sign
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Speaker 14: on to and girls and women could discuss things on
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Speaker 14: the app. And that's been going in and out of
32:08
Speaker 14: the courts because a transgender woman, I biological male wanted
32:13
Speaker 14: to be part of that group, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 15: We know the case.
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Speaker 14: It's got the ridiculous name of Giggle versus Tickle Rot Tickle.
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Speaker 14: This ruling may have a big implication on that case,
32:24
Speaker 14: which is still ongoing.
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Speaker 1: It certainly does have a big implication. One would hope
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Speaker 1: that the mood of the Federal Court is now switched
32:32
Speaker 1: to being a little more pro your freedom to choose
32:37
Speaker 1: your own company. I find it ludicrous. It's what a
32:40
Speaker 1: patronizing society that you must go well, in this case,
32:45
Speaker 1: these listbits had to go through a tribunal hearing, a
32:48
Speaker 1: Human Rights Commission hearing, a Federal Court hearing. Then they've
32:52
Speaker 1: got to go back to a tribunal just for the
32:55
Speaker 1: right to choose with whom they associate. I mean, it
33:00
Speaker 1: is what kind of society is that. I mean, if
33:03
Speaker 1: there is a genuine discrimination, I would have thought the
33:06
Speaker 1: Court of Public Opinion had sought that out. We do
33:08
Speaker 1: not need a legal court and all the money and
33:12
Speaker 1: expense and worry and putting yourself in the hands of
33:16
Speaker 1: judicial activists potentially.
33:19
Speaker 14: I tell you what sort of a society is, Andrew.
33:21
Speaker 14: It's a communist or socialist society. It's certainly not a
33:23
Speaker 14: free democratic society. And that's what the left has done
33:26
Speaker 14: to this country. We had successive liberal governments that refused
33:29
Speaker 14: you were too cowardly to do anything about the Sex
33:31
Speaker 14: Discrimination Act. Turnbull was too busy prancing around with his
33:35
Speaker 14: same sex marriage things, and then we had Morrison who
33:38
Speaker 14: was too busy trying to appease the various court cases that.
33:42
Speaker 15: Were going on.
33:43
Speaker 14: But we need a government to come in with and
33:46
Speaker 14: change the Sex Discrimination Act back to how it was.
33:50
Speaker 14: That's the job of the next coalition or one nation government.
33:54
Speaker 14: Labor obviously too cowardly to do it. But so many
33:57
Speaker 14: lives and money and pain hasn't suffering has been caused
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Speaker 14: by this idiocy, all down to Julia Gillard.
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Speaker 1: It's just crazy rowan opposition lead during the Status Big
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Speaker 1: Speech and immigration yesterday. What did you think of it?
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Speaker 14: Thought it was terrific. I thought it was great. I've
34:14
Speaker 14: written about it in The Spectator Australia this week. Says
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Speaker 14: all the right things apart from two words that are
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Speaker 14: missing android.
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Speaker 15: I don't know if you noticed in all of that
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Speaker 15: the two words radical Islam are missing from.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing.
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Speaker 14: It's a great policy. It ticks all the boxes, It
34:31
Speaker 14: has all the right ideas, It sets out to do
34:33
Speaker 14: the right things. But if you're not prepared to identify
34:37
Speaker 14: what the problem is that you're trying to fix, and
34:40
Speaker 14: that problem is radical Islam, that problem that led to
34:43
Speaker 14: Bondai and has that other has had other ramifications that
34:47
Speaker 14: needs fixing, that has impacts on immigration that also need fixing.
34:52
Speaker 14: And the policy is great, but one nation aren't afraid
34:55
Speaker 14: to call it out for what it is. Barnaby Joyce said,
34:57
Speaker 14: why aren't they talking about radical Islam? Angus Taylor wants
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Speaker 14: to be taken seriously with this policy, which he deserves
35:03
Speaker 14: to be. It's a good, well thought through policy. It
35:05
Speaker 14: takes us back to the nineteen sixties nineteen seventies idea
35:09
Speaker 14: of assimilation and integration being the fundamental to a successful
35:15
Speaker 14: multi racial, multi ethnic society. Without assimilational integration.
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Speaker 15: You're going to have a failure. And that's what we've got.
35:22
Speaker 15: We've got to fix it.
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Speaker 14: He's right, all the prescriptions that he's come up with
35:26
Speaker 14: are correct, but you've got to be honest with the
35:28
Speaker 14: public and say there is an element of this which
35:30
Speaker 14: is designed to address radical Islam and the introduction the.
35:35
Speaker 1: Fear of saying radical iszime. So we didn't say it.
35:38
Speaker 1: He just said, you know, generally those who don't fit
35:40
Speaker 1: in allowed. Then that vacuum then allowed this Jerome Luxlei member,
35:45
Speaker 1: the labor member for Benelong to roam through a Chinese suburb,
35:49
Speaker 1: a Chinese you know a lot of Chinese immigrants there,
35:52
Speaker 1: saying that he means you, he means you. What nonsense? Next?
35:58
Speaker 1: What another labor in p going to I don't know,
36:01
Speaker 1: you know, Presbyterian Community Germany and know he means you.
36:08
Speaker 1: Got almighty? What a mess mate, when you don't dare
36:11
Speaker 1: say what you mean to say? Anyway, Uron Dean, great
36:15
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thank you so much for your
36:17
Speaker 1: time after the break. You know, the Pope attacked Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Why haven't I ever heard the Pope attack terrorist Iran?
36:33
Speaker 1: I just read news flash from Iran the state media there. Look,
36:40
Speaker 1: it's probably not significant, but interesting. The state media there
36:44
Speaker 1: is reporting the two improvised explosive devices have gone off
36:47
Speaker 1: in t I ran the capitol. Three people slightly injured,
36:51
Speaker 1: so it's not big in that sense, one of them
36:54
Speaker 1: being a bassiage militia person. That's the internal security thing,
36:59
Speaker 1: that's the force that's there to to suppress any protests
37:05
Speaker 1: and things like that. So the state media is blaming
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Speaker 1: this on apparently traitorous elements against the regime. So a
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Speaker 1: sign of violence against the regime in the capitol. So
37:22
Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on that kind of thing. Like
37:23
Speaker 1: I say, it's only two slight injuries, so probably nothing.
37:26
Speaker 1: One of the things that bothers me about the Pope's
37:29
Speaker 1: criticism of Donald Trump's war is that I have never
37:33
Speaker 1: heard Pope Leo criticized Iran might have done it behind
37:38
Speaker 1: his hands somewhere to fret up. I have not heard it.
37:42
Speaker 1: I haven't heard him criticize this terrorist regime for kimming
37:45
Speaker 1: up to thirty six thousand Iranian protests just last January.
37:49
Speaker 1: I've never heard him criticize Iran for funding terrorist armies
37:53
Speaker 1: like a mass which thought at twelve hundred Jews in
37:55
Speaker 1: the October seven attack. I've never heard him criticize Iran
37:58
Speaker 1: for calling for death for Israel, and never heard him
38:01
Speaker 1: criticize Iran for working now on nuclear weapons, enriching four
38:05
Speaker 1: hundred kilograms of uranium to weapons grade. And all, by
38:10
Speaker 1: the way, have I heard him suggest how i Ron
38:12
Speaker 1: should now be stopped from making those nuclear bombs before
38:14
Speaker 1: it's all too late. Donald Trump's White House is meanmile
38:18
Speaker 1: so full of Catholics that Sean Spicer tells me the
38:21
Speaker 1: whole regular Mass at the White House and the most
38:24
Speaker 1: senior Catholic there. Vice President Jady Vance yesterday criticized the
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Speaker 1: Pope's intervention.
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Speaker 16: I'm going to try to remember the exact quote, but
38:32
Speaker 16: he said that God is never on the side of
38:35
Speaker 16: those who willed the sword. God is never on the
38:38
Speaker 16: side of those who will the sword. I'm pretty sure
38:40
Speaker 16: that he said that exact statement. Now, on the one hand, again,
38:44
Speaker 16: I like that the Pope is an advocate for peace.
38:47
Speaker 16: I think that's certainly one of his roles. On the
38:50
Speaker 16: other hand, how can you say that God is never
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Speaker 16: on the side of those who willed the sword?
38:57
Speaker 1: Now, I'm probably risking a bit of a blaspemas because
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Speaker 1: joining me is a panel stacked with women of passionately
39:03
Speaker 1: Italian background, gem and Toon Nini Coulnis and Communications Cause Sultan.
39:07
Speaker 1: Caroline de Russo, commentator and president of the West Astrian
39:10
Speaker 1: Liberals Jemma, I've probably taken my life in my hands
39:14
Speaker 1: criticizing the pope just before you came on board. But
39:18
Speaker 1: I'm here to be surprised. Has the Pope got too political?
39:22
Speaker 3: Yes, and.
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Speaker 17: Let's just keep it simple. Yes, he has. And I
39:28
Speaker 17: very much adhere to what Vice President Vance just said.
39:31
Speaker 17: I think, you know, don't want to sit here and
39:33
Speaker 17: you know, trade scripture for scripture. That's not what this
39:36
Speaker 17: is about. But what it is about is a global
39:39
Speaker 17: figure head for the Catholic faith. And I was baptized
39:42
Speaker 17: to Catholic I no longer practice the Catholic faith. My
39:44
Speaker 17: faith expression is in a different church now. But the
39:47
Speaker 17: point of the matter is this. You're quite correct, Andrew.
39:51
Speaker 17: He has not, to the best of my knowledge, criticized
39:54
Speaker 17: Iran on a myriad of human rights abuses, particularly those
39:58
Speaker 17: around women. What about Afghanistan and the erasure of women,
40:02
Speaker 17: what about Sudan? All of these things. But more importantly
40:06
Speaker 17: than that, the minute that a figure, any figure of faith,
40:10
Speaker 17: be it my faith or somebody else, has becomes uncriticizable,
40:14
Speaker 17: you have a theocracy, which is of course what we
40:16
Speaker 17: have in Iran, and my own personal view is that
40:18
Speaker 17: every figure of faith on this earth. I'm not talking
40:21
Speaker 17: about Christ, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about
40:23
Speaker 17: a person who purports to be the head of their
40:25
Speaker 17: religion should be open to criticism. The minute that we
40:29
Speaker 17: say they're not, we run into all sorts of problems
40:32
Speaker 17: for democracy and for pluralistic countries like our own. I
40:35
Speaker 17: think the Pope is out of line, respectfully. I think
40:38
Speaker 17: his comments have not been balanced in the context of
40:41
Speaker 17: other conflicts and the severe oppression of the Iranian people,
40:46
Speaker 17: who are, by all reports and accounts in the diaspora
40:49
Speaker 17: and within Iran itself, crying out for the very freedom
40:52
Speaker 17: that the Pope himself gets to enjoy from within the
40:54
Speaker 17: Holy See.
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Speaker 1: Karl Russo, that's now three people on the show have
41:00
Speaker 1: criticized the Pope, when most of the media have heard
41:03
Speaker 1: for the rest of the day have been right for him.
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Speaker 1: I think he needs a defender. Are you that person?
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Speaker 18: Oh, I'm I'm a bit sorry to disappoint you, and
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Speaker 18: I think he probably thought I was going to.
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Speaker 8: I don't know.
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Speaker 18: Look, I personally don't like it. I just stick to
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Speaker 18: your knitting. The Catholic Church has got plenty of its
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Speaker 18: own problems to worry about, and there are plenty of
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Speaker 18: other more worthy things that I think can be spoken about.
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Speaker 18: But fun fact, you know, we talk about it in
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Speaker 18: the sense of, oh, you know, should the Pope be political? Well,
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Speaker 18: my preference is that he isn't. But also this is
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Speaker 18: not the first time. Fun Fact fifteen seventy and Pope
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Speaker 18: Pious the Fifth issues a papabull excommunicating Elizabeth First, where
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Speaker 18: he calls her a heretic, a servant of crime, and
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Speaker 18: says that she is the pretended Queen of England. So frankly,
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Speaker 18: I don't like what this poper said, but you know,
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Speaker 18: he's still he's still a bit of an amateur. He's
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Speaker 18: got one, but he's still a little bit of an
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Speaker 18: amateur compared to some of these predecessors and the really good,
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Speaker 18: solid go that they have had at various heads of state.
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Speaker 17: I'm with you, aren't the Carol.
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Speaker 15: I'm not going to keep it JP too.
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Speaker 17: I reckon, well, I'm not.
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Speaker 1: Clipping up that this clip now and putting on the web,
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Speaker 1: because Carolina, he hears that he make your ideas in
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Speaker 1: his head. You can't be floating dangerous andrew bit of
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Speaker 1: good anyone. Donald Trump stupidly posted an ai image of
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Speaker 1: himself as a Jesus like figure. And honestly, I had
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Speaker 1: no idea, Jemma, that the media was so pro Catholic.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hearing slim in the Catholic Church for years,
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Speaker 1: but suddenly, oh my goodness, you know, how dare Trump
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Speaker 1: do this and insult the pope and and brass theme
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Speaker 1: like this this image. Meanwhile, on the other side of
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Speaker 1: this war, isn't a st regime as you as you
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Speaker 1: noted that it's declared a fat wire by the way,
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Speaker 1: and author Salmon Rushi for criticizing Islam bands is a
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Speaker 1: distribution of the Bible, James Muslims who converts the Christianity
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Speaker 1: in Sisul, Iranians including Christians, submit to Islamic law and
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Speaker 1: Islamic rulers. I mean, this isn't some sensitivity of the media,
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Speaker 1: you know, to insults to Christianity rather selective.
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Speaker 17: Look, I'm not I'm not unhappy to see some media
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Speaker 17: wake up and go, look there's a line and it's
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Speaker 17: been crossed, I must say, But.
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Speaker 1: As if you believe it.
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Speaker 15: I mean, look, I.
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Speaker 17: Don't really I don't know that it's particularly genuine, and
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Speaker 17: I don't think it's out of the love of Christ
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Speaker 17: to his church. It's more of a hatred of Donald
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Speaker 17: Trump and everything he stands for in and believes in.
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Speaker 17: I mean, you could go further, Andrew and remind our
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Speaker 17: viewers and remind you know the medium more broadly. You know,
43:54
Speaker 17: this is a regime where if you're a woman, you
43:56
Speaker 17: don't get to decide if you work or not. You
43:58
Speaker 17: don't get to leave the country where they your husband's permission,
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Speaker 17: your legal testimony is worth half of a man's. You
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Speaker 17: don't get to divorce. You are a shuttle of a bloke.
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Speaker 17: If you uncover your hair, you'll have the be Jesus
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Speaker 17: beaten out of you, no pun intended, and very likely
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Speaker 17: end up in jail for crimes such as crimes against
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Speaker 17: chastity and against morality. This is prehistoric. This is a
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Speaker 17: regime that and I'll point this out again that Australia
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Speaker 17: this week, along with its great mates France and the
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Speaker 17: UK and other reprobates, did not stop the Iranian regime
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Speaker 17: from being elected to a United Nations committee that is
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Speaker 17: instrumental in forming policy. You can't make this up about
44:39
Speaker 17: human rights and the rights of women.
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Speaker 15: I don't know.
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Speaker 17: I don't know what to say anymore about this stuff.
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Speaker 1: Look, that was really shameful. Australia is part of this decision.
44:49
Speaker 1: Last week it said nothing America did, but Australia said nothing.
44:53
Speaker 1: When Iran was actually appointed to one of these committees
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Speaker 1: that would look at things like human.
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Speaker 17: And significant commiss we said nothing and we didn't. It
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Speaker 17: is and I think the government's line was, well, we
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Speaker 17: didn't actually vote, we just sort of let it go through.
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Speaker 17: And that's that is Howard's response.
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Speaker 1: What did they say? The standard you walk past is
45:15
Speaker 1: the standard you accept exactly exactly gem and the fuel
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Speaker 1: crisis that's really hit contus hard, Gemma, Caroline, sorry the
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Speaker 1: other let us share the other, gem Caroline. The cost
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Speaker 1: of aviation fuel has gone through the roof COUNUS now
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Speaker 1: has cut some local flights and even cuped services to
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Speaker 1: about Gambia. And you sat in South Australia and it
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Speaker 1: services from Busselton to Sydney, but they put on extra
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Speaker 1: flights to Europe. Now one nation's Manery Joyce. Here is
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Speaker 1: an impression or some communities have listened to this.
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Speaker 9: You've got your major capitals with major requirements for people
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Speaker 9: to go there.
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Speaker 1: And it's essential that at six o'clock were able to
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Speaker 1: jump on a plane in town Worth or six thirty
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Speaker 1: and get to Sydney. That's how that's how our economy works.
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Speaker 10: I don't really agree with looking out for the international
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Speaker 10: markets much.
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Speaker 1: You should be looking after the domestic market. There's a lot,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people do fe work.
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Speaker 15: Here to help someone else's economy out. They should be
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Speaker 15: prioritizing domestic travel and workers think us, you know, going
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Speaker 15: to Europe doesn't help our economy one bit, Karen.
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Speaker 1: And are they all right that the economy should be
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Speaker 1: prioritizing prioritizing local flights or really, you know, does it
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Speaker 1: have to chase the dollar it's a private company. I guess.
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Speaker 18: Well it's a bit of both. But if you're going
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Speaker 18: to be the spirit of Australia, maybe acting the spirit
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Speaker 18: of Australia and for these sorts of flights, and particularly
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Speaker 18: say something like Adelaide to Mount Gambia, which no doubt
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Speaker 18: Barker MP Tony Passon will have something to say about this,
46:53
Speaker 18: that there is a major access route for people who
46:58
Speaker 18: live in that part of South Australia. So if you
47:00
Speaker 18: live in a capital city, you can pick quantas, you
47:03
Speaker 18: can pick virgin, you can pick a car, you can
47:06
Speaker 18: pick right when you live out in the regions, you
47:08
Speaker 18: have very very limited access to this sort of transport
47:13
Speaker 18: infrastructure and flights, and those flights are often very limited
47:17
Speaker 18: at the best of times. When you cut those flights,
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Speaker 18: they have a proportionally much greater impact on those regional
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Speaker 18: communities than they do in or out of our major cities.
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Speaker 15: So this is something.
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Speaker 8: You know what I'm like, Andrew.
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Speaker 18: I don't like to mandate these sorts of things. It
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Speaker 18: is a private business. But if you think that you
47:38
Speaker 18: were going to have some kind of special position in
47:41
Speaker 18: Australian corporate world and be held in some kind of
47:45
Speaker 18: special regard, behave like it.
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Speaker 1: Jimma, I've got thirty seconds. What do you think of that?
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Speaker 17: I think somewhere in the middle of that is the truth.
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Speaker 17: I think Quantis is a private company. It has to
47:58
Speaker 17: make a buck in to be able to stick around
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Speaker 17: and do what it's doing. You know, the Dunsbrough, I
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Speaker 17: think Kara the duns were to Perth leg was one
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Speaker 17: of those ones canceled. I don't know that that sounds
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Speaker 17: we're in Sydney or bus bus to Sydney. Okay, well yeah,
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Speaker 17: probably without that. Intermeditently, I go back to Perth a lot.
48:14
Speaker 17: As you know, my flights are notably more expensive, and
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Speaker 17: that's a need for my company. I have a Perth
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Speaker 17: office and I have to go back. So you know,
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Speaker 17: we hope it passes soon because many many jobs and
48:27
Speaker 17: industries are depending on it passing soon.
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Speaker 1: Yep, Germatonini, Karen Russa. Always great to talk to you, ladies.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Let's sit from me coming up
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Speaker 1: next to Sherry, but host the boss Steve Price. Goodn't
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