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Justin Bieber at Coachella… What Really Happened? · Talking Shed

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We post the JB Coachella performance.
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One of the greats of all time. Ohh to some people, we'll get
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into that. Hey, well, I'll be, I'll be
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quite frank with you. I I thought it was actually a
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really good performance. So me too me.
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Too. And and that's kind of from
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someone that isn't really a Justin Bieber fan, but right.
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He, I mean, I've been a fan of his for a little while now.
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Yeah, back in his old days, bro, his heyday, you know, when he
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was a kid. Oh, bro, I used to hate his
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guts. I used to hate his guts.
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Should we jump into the performer straight away?
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He just off the bad seat? Yeah, yeah, sure.
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See. See what?
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See what? Let's just let's just show
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people how, what, what, what we're going to talk if they
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haven't seen if they haven't seen the performance.
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So I reckon he's done it. He did his whole catalog
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basically of swag. And then he threw in a few
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different songs from the past where he famously went on
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YouTube and searched on YouTube with the crowd which songs he's
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going to play. This is my favorite song from
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the performance at Stay with Kid Leroy.
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And I just reckon it's because him and Kid Leroy have such a
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mean chemistry. I think it's because they're
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friends and he's kind of help mentor Kid Leroy also.
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We're talking about it. Side note, interesting is this
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is like the third most streamed song of all time.
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Yeah, I was. I was pretty shocked by fifth, I
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think. Yeah.
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Behind, like blinding light. Blinding lights.
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Someone love someone who love me or Louis Louis Capaldi.
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And then who is the other one? Can't remember.
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Anyway, it mustn't be that good. This is stay Justin Bieber, they
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go. A shout out to the Aussie.
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Aussie. He made.
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Yeah, so that was that. That was like one of the most
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hype songs as well because he was pretty much standing on the
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stage, like not doing much all time, but like this one was
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actually where he turned up also.
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So yeah, that pretty much just brings us into, I guess this is
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the talk about what you reckon about the the performance
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because he's got heaps of scrutiny.
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He was the highest ever paid Coachella performer.
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He's $10 million, which topped Ariana Grande previously, and I
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think a few others that had been paid 9 million.
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And so I posted on my personal story about how much he actually
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would have made because all he had was a laptop.
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Yeah, yeah. YouTube Premium and and Wi-Fi
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there and Wi-Fi and like and then so like what, what did you
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reckon about that? Did you reckon?
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Yeah, what? What was your take on the whole
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performance? Like my my genuine opinion on it
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was that I thought it was actually a really cool
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performance. I thought it was unique in
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itself. And, and I don't know if many of
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these types of performances happened in the past, but I'll
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just say like, I just thought it was unique.
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It was, it was personable. That's what I really liked about
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it. And, and, and, and it was a
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throwback to obviously, you know, what basically created
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him, you know, I think we were talking about it before as well.
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And that was like, you know, it showed his YouTube days and how
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he got famous in that. And so that's what obviously I
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felt like he was leaning on a lot.
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So I actually really enjoyed the performance overall, Man, I
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thought it was really just it was it was easy to connect to.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously, yeah.
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Maybe the cheaper and I'd. I love seeing live music in
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terms of like live bands and stuff, but he sang to songs that
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obviously everyone knew, you know, and so that's what I
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really rated about it. The one thing I will say though
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is supposedly he did it this way so that he could perform those
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old songs because he doesn't have the the right to anymore.
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Yeah, I've heard that, but I don't I don't think that's
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correct. Right.
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I heard that as well. I don't know.
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I I don't think that's correct. It just means that he may be.
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Yeah, I I don't think that's correct.
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That would be a hack though. That sounds me.
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Well, that's. Why?
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I was like, because supposedly, right, he went into financial
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debt. Yeah.
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And he? Sold.
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Sold his whole catalog. The whole.
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Catalog. Yeah.
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So supposedly, like, I don't know how I don't.
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Believe that either. How's Justin Bieber going in
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debt? No way.
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What I like? Isn't it?
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Do you reckon there's no way bro like.
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What's happened to artists? A lot of.
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But like, how would he go and did bro, he literally for
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performance will go into some of the things he's done.
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Like he gets millions of dollars just for one performance.
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Well, yeah, true. And like, unless he's like bad
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gambler or something. Like but I just.
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Literally the only thing I can think.
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Well, that's the thing that like artists have to go on tours to,
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to continuously make money, because it's not just them
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making money from their own music.
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It's the it's. But they do JB he would make.
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Heaps or he would, Yeah, he would.
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But then like my my prime example there is definitely
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Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson was in bad debt.
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Was he real bad? Right, because he, because I
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think it was Sony, right? They, they took him basically to
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well, they yeah, they tore him to shreds pretty much.
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How can you be in debt? If you're the person that is
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creating the money maker, hey that's far that's bad like.
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Look, I don't know how true is like, we'll have to do some.
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Yeah, background check on that. Yeah, Yeah, supposedly.
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I mean, that's what I saw saw as well.
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So he was in bad financial debt. He sold his catalog, like he
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said, that was the only way these apparently legal
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loopholes. And that's why an example there
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as well is Taylor Swift. So Taylor Swift, she not from
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she she wasn't in debt, but she had to sell, sell her whole
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catalog. And so she created her own and
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that's why she so she's got the same music.
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Yeah, but apparently the legal loophole is that if you add in a
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few songs and obviously these other things as well.
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Frank Ocean did that. He released the whole album just
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like a blank album pretty much that got him out of his.
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Right. So it dropped pink.
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We'll see. It had all her it had all her
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original songs on there, but she had to obviously add a few
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things or maybe yeah, tweak a few things and now she obviously
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makes bank. But yeah, so I don't know.
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I don't know. But I do think it is possible
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though that he could have been a debt.
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I don't, I just don't know, but I.
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Don't reckon he could have been a debt.
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Gee, that's JB, but OK. Do you want me to just quickly
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run off? So yeah, I agree with what you
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said 100%. And we talked about the YouTube
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thing and how bro, what I liked about the YouTube thing is like
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for JB, just one of us, he's doom scrolling like me, bro, I'm
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on, I'm on YouTube just going through the things and not not
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even know what I'm looking at. He's pulling up memes, bro.
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He's like doom scrolling on stage, bro.
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That's like a reposition of like me.
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Like thank you, JB. But like honestly, I can see why
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people are saying it was a terrible performance.
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I get that because he's sitting down.
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There's no like when you're performing in front of 10s of
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thousand. I don't know how many people
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might even be. I'd say it'd be close to
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100,000. There I looked at like a lot of
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people, I wouldn't be. Surprised.
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So if you're performing in front of that many people and you're
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sitting on the stage, it's hard to keep a big crowd entertained.
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If you're in a small venue and stuff, it's easier.
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But like, I feel like imagine if you're like 100 meters back and
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you're looking and he's not moving it, it would be a better.
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But I get I get that. And especially if you're not the
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biggest fan to start with. Yeah, yeah, I get how that would
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be annoying and. Then just just do that.
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I feel like that's the that's the viewer or, you know, person
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that's listening to its fault. Like if you I feel like you just
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it's a different type of appreciation for music.
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Yeah, not everyone will vibe with it.
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I mean, like, you look at artists who who still perform,
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like, bro, I'm not a big fan of Kendrick Lamar.
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When he performed live, like his Super Bowl performance, I was
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off there. Like I didn't really enjoy it.
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Yeah. Like, I just think it's it's and
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that's on me, you know what I mean?
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It's not so much on them. No, no, no, you like what you
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like kind of thing, but 100%. But so like I feel like for
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those people that aren't 100% a fan and that and that at the
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concert, a little theatric sometimes helps the whole whole
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whole performance. So I get that for me, but I
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don't need it because I love JB, but and I've loved him since he
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was like, well, since he's not like, yeah, a little boy and
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yeah, literally by me and JVG. But like what I also liked about
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the performance, I think it's getting they they're going into
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it a bit too much, saying that he was sitting down and stuff
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because he still bought Wizkid teams.
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Kid Leroy. He played his whole new album
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pretty much dancing and stuff. He just sat down and scrolled
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and did the whole like throwing it back and it was cool.
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We did Neo So Sick and Chris Brown with you like 2 of the
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GOAT songs of all time. But yeah, so I I was a fan of
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it, as you said, I think the theatrics would have helped some
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of the maybe fans. And then I think, yeah, if
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you're a fan, you're a fan, that kind of thing, like.
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They're kind of. Taylor Swift did something
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massive. I wouldn't like it.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm the same. Yeah, I'm the same.
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But you like what you like. So that's what I was kind of
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alluding to was that he had to sit down and stuff and just sing
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along. So they're obviously like, did
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you see that part? Like so obviously he, so from
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what I've seen, and this is talking about the whole debt
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thing that he was in and stuff, whether it's true or not,
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because I, I, I almost don't believe it either.
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But he had to, he couldn't perform the song like he would
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10-15 years ago. Supposedly he had to sit down
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and just do it as a sing along. So, okay.
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I don't know, maybe something, but I got no idea.
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But like I said, that's the tick tock algorithm saying this is
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basically why he did it the way he did it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that pretty much like
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sums up their performance. But like, I just want to go into
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a bit more why, why I like JB and like, so to start with, we
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have the whole generation, but our generation.
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Do you remember when you were like in just starting high
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school or I was just starting high school?
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I'm pretty sure it was year 9 when JB, like, released like one
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time and baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And at the time it was seen like as gay, if you like that, kind
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of like you got a Justin Bieber haircut, you're gay or stuff
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like that. People didn't like it.
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And then so we went through that.
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I'm pretty much the exact same age as JB.
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Yeah. True.
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So I grew up with him. Bro what?
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Would he be like he's? One, he's like 10 months older
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than me. Oh.
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So he's. 33, yeah, he's pretty much the same age as me.
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Yeah, he's less than a year older than me.
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So he'll be 32. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So like, I grew up and that's pretty cool, bro, to think like
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I've grown. We've grown up the same age as
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one of the greatest music stars of all time.
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We've seen him become a cringe, Yeah, a cringe boy who, like,
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broke all the girls love JB. Yeah, but he was, like, the
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hottest thing of all time. Yeah.
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Then you moved into, like, his bad boy area where he had like,
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no, sorry. His teenage heart throb every.
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We had like, boyfriend. He was like dating Selena Gomez
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and then he he kind of started falling out a bit, but he was
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still like, yeah, heartthrob, all the girls love them, that
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kind of thing. Then you moved into like when he
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started like being a bit of a bad boy.
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And that's when I was like not being a bad boy, but like I was
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18 and, you know, you started to go out and you were starting to
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rebel a little bit. And that was the same with him.
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And this is when people started actually jumping on him, which
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people only started liking American after purpose, like
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after sorry and love yourself and what do you mean and that
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kind of thing. Bro, that's me.
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Yeah, that was kind of that's when I reckon people jumped onto
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him. That's.
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And, and, and as as now, you know, as I've obviously taken a
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liking to him a bit more, I respect the music he first
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bought out like baby and all that, because now I can see the,
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it's the evolution. Yeah.
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And that's what I like about it. That's that's that's I'll say
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that. But like, love yourself all of
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that stuff. I really enjoyed that because it
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was like I saw like this maturity kind of come about.
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And that's like Ed Sheeran is a good example of that.
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I mean, that's who wrote that song, by the way.
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Which one? The love yourself one, I'm
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pretty sure. Yeah.
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So like, you know, like it was it was kind of like this
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evolution where he went and sang all these, you know, kids songs,
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whatever, whatever, as expected. And then obviously now he's
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singing these types of songs that are just more amateur.
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Yeah, yeah, Yep, Yep. But I, I love his old stuff,
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straight up. I love, I love the men, love it
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now. And then he kind of went into
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now when he's releasing like Justice and swag and that kind
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of thing where it's like more stripped back.
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And that's a little bit like to his performance as well.
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He's just stripping it all back and just just being him kind of
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thing, which I like. So like, I guess that sums up
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why I love JB, why we our generation has kind of grown up
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with him and he's so cool. But like, I just wanted to pose
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the question to you is we're talking.
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You obviously have your wedding coming up.
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Yeah. And he actually performed at a
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wedding. And I'll play, I actually have
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it here. I'll play it for you.
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So he, I heard about this. So he apparently there's this
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Indian couple called Anat Ambani and Radhika.
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Yeah, something. Sorry.
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And then he performed at their wedding, bro.
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And supposedly he got $10 million from the performance.
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That's the supposed figure. So no wonder he did it.
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But like, yeah, that's crazy. This is the performance here.
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I'll play it in India. He's that.
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He's that famous. They're like all singing along
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like he's famous everywhere, bro.
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He. Is yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's that's why one more thing on the performance is what I
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kind of talked to you about. I think you disagreed but like I
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don't reckon anyone would be able to do that except for JB is
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sit down and scroll through YouTube and play his bangers.
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I did. I did disagree with it, yeah.
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And I do think like for me, because when I look at artists,
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I'm just like, if you're an artist, then that's your
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profession. Like I yeah, I do think a lot of
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artists would be able to do what he did, but.
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Who? Who do you think would be able
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to? Do it bro.
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I just, I just, well, because like the way I look at it is I
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compared that to obviously tiny disk and tiny disk is a bit of a
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intimate performance, kind of taking away all the theatrics.
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And so when I so when I see that bro, I think a lot of people on
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the tiny disk would be able to do what he did.
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But in same. Age a big, big crowd.
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That's what I don't agree with. I don't think they'll be able to
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engage like keep a crowd or like just from your aura of being on
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the stage because like we said, this dude is the biggest
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heartthrob of all time. Like no one's even come close to
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how much girls and yeah, so boys, everyone how he's captured
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the hearts of the whole world. Like India, bro.
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It'd be Germany, it'd be Russia, it'd be everybody.
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You know who's captured the hearts?
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Who? Michael Jackson.
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Nah, he wouldn't. Do, I'm telling you, Michael
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Jackson is there. She could.
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He did. That's my point though.
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He's did, I did. Nobody would be able to do it
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though. Who else alive would be able to?
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Do it. But honestly, I, I do think
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there will be a lot of artists. I think you're like we're
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undercutting maybe. Well, I feel like we're, we're
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undercutting like female artists as well.
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I do think there are some. So like for me it would be, I
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think like honestly, I want to put Usher there like he.
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Could probably do something bro. Usher's definitely up there,
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bro. Like he, he could definitely do
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something like that. I feel like I want to think of a
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female artist, bro. Honestly, Alicia Keys might be
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able to do something like that. I want to say bro, Rihanna, bro,
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they'll they'll be able to do. It But I'm a huge Rihanna fan.
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She couldn't do that. Bro, you know, the difference
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though, is that he has the YouTube part to them.
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Those artists don't have that that because, you know, think of
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their generation, by the way, but their generation went on
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YouTube. His generation was.
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So if if we're going on that sense, yeah, sure.
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Like, yeah, he's going to be able to do that.
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But I do feel like an intimate performance the way he did it.
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Bro. There's a lot of artists that
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would be able to do it. And those are just three that
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I've named that just a few, you know?
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Yeah, I don't, I don't recognize he's, he's built this like aura
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about him where he's he all he needs to do is just show up.
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Where like, I feel like Chris Brown, Taylor Swift, all these
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people, whenever they perform, all their songs are built around
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like a performance in my opinion.
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So like, yeah, but Chris Brown's Chris Brown's songs are all like
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ever, ever, ever, ever, ever like kind of stuff.
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Taylor Swift's like doing the same type of thing.
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It's. But that's that's exactly why I
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didn't say them. Oh OK, Usher is is the same as
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well. Yeah, but you gotta think of his
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like his. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But that's that's more than yours.
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OK, So what song would it be then?
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Bro be all the sort of like burn bro burn is a good one that he
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could all do Bro like he you know the.
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But he doesn't have the same like appeal to the whole world,
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I don't reckon Usher. But definitely not to the whole
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world. Absolutely.
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I agree with that. Like, obviously you're right in
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saying bro, JB could go anywhere and he's not.
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Yeah, I should definitely. I don't think Usher could do
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that, you know? Yeah, he'd be.
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To some extent he would, yeah. Yeah, but but like let's let's
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be real, you know, like in not to that extent.
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Yeah, yeah. Not to JB.
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Honestly, the one that would be closest to to JB is Chris Brown.
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Chris Brown is definitely worldwide.
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Worldwide 9. I feel like, yeah, his music,
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because he's got that genre, that that that pop genre, the
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party genre. Yeah, I feel like Chris Brown
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would be more worldwide known. Yeah.
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Now, whether or not that's true, I don't.
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Know wait, Chris Brown would be or Chris Brown?
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Dean, JB. No.
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No, no. Worldwide.
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Nolan Yeah. Wait, Dean, JB?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. OK.
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That's exactly why it seats you. Yeah.
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That's why not to this level. Yeah.
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But again, I do want to say, like, I feel like that's because
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we grew up in a those guys grew up in an era without the YouTube
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side of things. Chris Brown wasn't too far
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behind YouTube, by the way. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, YouTube was probably around, but it just wasn't as
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big as what it was when he obviously came.
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Out well, JB released all his like early when he was a kid on
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YouTube. Yeah.
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So yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is who do you OK put it
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this way, if JB came out to Coachella yeah, and just said
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hey guys, thought I'd just troll you.
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I'm not even performing catch you later.
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So OK, and then name every single person on the list,
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right? I reckon people would would
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actually fuck with JP doing that.
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Like that's how much he is like the man and he's not.
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Performing then, yeah. But like, he wouldn't get as
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much hate for that if Chris Brown said like, hey, got you
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guys, I'm not actually performing later or sorry.
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I reckon. I reckon he'll get the worst
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hate. I don't reckon G people would be
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like, you're fire for doing that.
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No way I would, Jay. I'd be like, no way that takes
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so much hold on. No, no, like that.
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Because you've bought the ticket to go see him.
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Yeah, yeah. Bro and if he comes on stage and
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goes gotcha ass just got all your money later he would.
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I reckon he would have. To play that meme got him.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just on the You Tuesdays.
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Gotcha. Yeah, no.
20:54
That's for aura. And Justin Bieber has, in my
20:57
opinion, OK, He actually, that's what I mean.
20:59
Like, he could just go on stage and like, everyone's like, Oh my
21:03
God, it's Justin Bieber, like kind of thing.
21:06
I feel like like, bro, he is in like, in my head.
21:12
This superstar stratosphere above.
21:15
He is. So that's superstar.
21:16
I agree with you. Yeah, I, I, I, I'm bro.
21:18
I'm not saying he isn't. I just.
21:20
Yeah. But anyway.
21:21
We're kind of side joke. We we're like, I can't I, I get
21:24
what I get what you mean. Like there is if you have
21:26
bangers, then you can. I just feel you can have a mean
21:28
performance. Your job is to perform.
21:31
Yeah. And so if, if, if you're getting
21:33
paid these millions of dollars, yeah, it's like a sports
21:35
athlete, bro. If you don't turn up and you
21:37
don't perform, why are you getting paid that much?
21:39
Yeah, yeah. So in my head, I'm just
21:40
thinking, OK, when I look at it from that point of view, bro,
21:44
I'm sure there are people out there that would be able to.
21:46
And that's why I just said tiny disc.
21:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tiny disc.
21:48
It is like he was kind of like a tiny disc performance.
21:51
Yeah, yeah, actually, has he done a tiny disc by the?
21:53
Way I don't. Think so.
21:53
I want to see that. Because actually I would, bro.
21:56
That would go off. Yeah, he'd be good.
21:58
That would go off. Especially because he I like
22:00
he'd play guitar and everything like that.
22:01
And oh, that's what I wanted to say, yeah, that's why I really
22:05
respect them, Yeah, as I've learnt more about him and his
22:08
background. He can play every instrument.
22:10
Bro. And that's like, it's so rare.
22:12
Like that's why I don't, I don't really mess with a lot of
22:14
rappers and stuff. Yeah, they're good.
22:16
Yeah. Like they can cut both, but they
22:17
don't, you don't see it. Like that's why I like J.
22:19
Cole. J.
22:19
Cole, you see him decipher or, you know, really breakdown.
22:22
As he may use it, he makes. Beat He makes it, bro.
22:24
You know, like these kind. Yeah, but there's not many
22:27
artists like that, Kendrick. I don't know.
22:29
He doesn't make beats. You know, so that's why I
22:32
respect people like him. That's why I respect people like
22:33
Ed Sheeran. I'm not a big fan of Ed Sheeran,
22:35
by the way, but I just put him in that boat because.
22:37
He's one of the. He's for sure.
22:39
Yeah. Right.
22:39
And he writes everyone's songs. Yeah, he's written.
22:41
Yeah. True.
22:42
True. True, but see, and that's why
22:43
Mary, and I hate to say this, I hate to say this Taylor Swift,
22:47
she is up there because she performs very.
22:50
She can actually play instruments.
22:52
Yeah. And she she I respect.
22:54
Taylor, the same amount as I respect Michael Jackson, right,
22:57
Because I don't love them. They don't like them at all.
22:59
Yeah, yeah, I, I don't like them, but like, it's like, but I
23:04
get people love, right, Right, Right.
23:05
You know what I mean? Yeah, that might be a good way
23:07
of how I look at Michael Jackson.
23:08
Yeah. It's like Taylor Swift.
23:10
Oh, right. Yeah.
23:11
Does that make sense? Yeah.
23:13
Like, I know people love her and, like, she's great.
23:16
I see 100%. You can't deny it.
23:17
She's a billionaire. Yeah, but like it's just like
23:20
Bow like I'm not no, not even that Michael Jackson's least
23:23
actually. Wow, I try to give it now bro I.
23:27
Stand up business MJ is like the greatest.
23:30
Bro no one listens to Michael Jackson G.
23:32
Everyone does. He's, you know, he's 2620
23:33
seventh on Spotify. OK, wait, let's.
23:35
I actually just pulled this up because I wanted to talk about
23:37
it. I was going to ask you about the
23:39
wedding, but fuck it, let's talk about this.
23:43
This is good. So.
23:44
Yeah, so I just went like, OK, breakdown a comparison table
23:48
with Justin Bieber, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown and Usher,
23:50
because I know we all love like. OK, well, the last two are out.
23:52
I love Chris Brown and Usher, but they're good.
23:53
Like Little. Yeah, yeah.
23:55
Segways, Yeah. And for to show Yeah.
23:59
What's the word I'm looking for? The levels, yeah.
24:02
Like these levels? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:06
So I've got career earnings, Instagram followers, Spotify
24:09
monthly listeners, and total streams from top songs.
24:13
So Bro JB career innings 500 to 700 million, Michael Jackson 2
24:19
billion. Yeah, that's next level here.
24:21
Yeah, but I just, I don't even know if I believe that, to be
24:23
honest, but I believe it. Chris Brown and Usher apparently
24:26
both 300 to 400 million. So JB beats them both.
24:30
Yeah, Instagram followers 290 million.
24:33
Yeah, yeah. That's.
24:34
Obviously, Michael Jackson wouldn't even count that one
24:36
because he's not alive and he. Probably.
24:39
He probably still got a million followers.
24:41
Yeah, in his coffin he's got 30 million, but I had true.
24:43
He didn't even have Instagram or whatever.
24:46
Yeah, OK, Chris Brown is 145,000,000 bro.
24:51
Usher has I mean JB has more than double the followers as
24:54
Chris Brown. That's.
24:55
Crazy. Yeah, that is, yeah.
24:56
And Usher, 50 mil. You're pretty much gone at this
24:58
point. Yeah.
25:00
Spotify Monthly listeners, JB, 80 to 100 million.
25:04
Michael Jackson, 50 to 40 to 50. Bro that's insane so.
25:07
He's double Michael Jackson. Yeah, but he's dead.
25:10
No. Are you, are you rating that Bo
25:13
That's are you serious? Are you saying if he would be
25:14
alive he'd have more He wouldn't be like?
25:16
Missing you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
25:18
But I'm saying like Bo oh. Right now you're saying like his
25:21
peak was here and he's like coming here and James.
25:24
Think about it Bo, honestly think about that for a second.
25:27
So you just said he had about 50.
25:28
Did you say 50 mil? 40 to 50 mil, yeah.
25:31
Bo He died in 2009. That's 16 years.
25:34
That's 20. Sorry, 16 years ago.
25:37
I get what you mean. I get what you mean.
25:38
I'm just thinking about thinking about the graphic because his
25:41
graph, he peaked. Of course he's coming down now.
25:43
He's coming down. JB is still here.
25:45
What is he coming down? He's coming down.
25:47
J No. One likes Jake.
25:48
Michael Jackson. I honestly swear to God, by the
25:51
way, I would stand on it. I've never heard one of my
25:53
friends play Michael Jackson's song and they're me.
25:56
Oh yeah, you. Jam you, but like at a party and
25:58
stuff like even you, you don't play it that much.
26:02
I play it. I play it a lot, bro.
26:03
I'll be, I'll be, I'd be dead. Not outside.
26:05
In the kitchen? Well, because, you know, I hate
26:08
it. No, it's not because it's
26:09
actually it doesn't suit the vibe by the way, it doesn't suit
26:12
the vibe. It doesn't suit the vibe.
26:13
I'm a vibe person. So like and you are too, because
26:16
I feel like that's where we definitely on the same terms of
26:20
that. But yeah, don't stop teaching.
26:24
But the burger? I can't have my go doing that,
26:30
yeah. But see, it's a Barbie thing.
26:32
Yeah, like if it doesn't his, well, his music would suit a BBQ
26:36
Barbie. That is, That is very good.
26:37
To be honest, I've actually thought about it a bit more. 40
26:39
to 50 million and you're dead. And he haven't reached a song
26:42
for 30 years. Yeah, but it's pretty.
26:43
Good. And the other thing though,
26:45
because of that movie coming out, I reckon his streams are
26:47
going up. OK, Yeah, yeah.
26:48
And then total streams of all time, JB 40 billion.
26:53
Wow, 40 Bill. Michael Jackson, 25 billion.
26:57
Wow, that's insane. So that's total.
26:59
That's a bit better to compare because it's just total.
27:02
It's still hard because Michael Jackson missed the streaming
27:05
error. Exactly.
27:05
Yeah. So, but still no.
27:08
Chris Brown 30 bill. Usher 10 bill.
27:11
So you combine Chris Brown and Usher's whole.
27:13
Capital doesn't even get. And it's like about JB's.
27:15
Yeah. So like crazy, bro.
27:18
That's what I mean. Like JB is I think we sometimes
27:23
forget because he had a big break of how actual popular bro
27:27
my missus I didn't even know he had.
27:29
I bought my missus a JB hoodie Jean.
27:30
She almost cried. I was like, bro what the hell
27:34
bro she loves JB. Yeah, yeah, I do.
27:36
Know like bro, I was like crying part bro yeah, she's like, did
27:40
you actually? I was like, yeah, but like, bro,
27:44
that's that energy of girls like Shania's age.
27:48
Yeah bro, like. Diehard's a diehard diehards
27:52
like. When when I say something about
27:54
JB, she will like get defensive and be like, yeah, yeah, don't
27:56
talk about my or. We should, we should start,
27:59
don't win, things like that, Harden JB was.
28:01
Bad. Yeah.
28:02
No, I'll be like, even like Haley, I'll be like.
28:05
Yeah, do you reckon? She's like wasn't because of the
28:08
money or. Something.
28:08
Yeah, Yeah. And then she would like she was
28:10
like, don't say that you don't know him, you don't know them.
28:13
But why would you even say that? I'm like whoa bro, I'm just.
28:15
Yeah, I. Just just seems like it.
28:18
Right. That's true.
28:19
I actually want to talk about. Yeah, yeah, shortly, shortly.
28:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that, no, I'm pretty
28:23
much just roll into it. I'm pretty much done.
28:24
Yeah, well, I but see, I, and I'm gonna be honest here, like
28:27
JB is, I respect it. Like he, you know, he is a
28:30
really good artist. He performs well.
28:32
I love his voice too, bro. Like he doesn't have like the
28:36
best. Voice.
28:37
No, he doesn't, but he knows how to use it.
28:39
He knows how to and knows what songs to to.
28:41
OK, but you know his new album Swag?
28:43
Yeah. This is what I like about it,
28:44
bro. He's got music and I can tell
28:48
bro. It's he's got songs in there
28:50
that have that kind of pay homage or it's like the he's
28:54
he's made it more swaggy. Yeah.
28:55
Prince and Michael Jackson. Yeah, he does.
28:57
He does, bro. Because and you know what they
28:59
were all good at, but they sang on top of the song.
29:03
Like I don't know how to like, you know when.
29:05
So you're like, you're not singing on the beat.
29:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean?
29:08
Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.
29:09
So he he sings kind of with it, but then on top, yeah.
29:12
I don't know if I'm describing that too well.
29:14
Like the beat is it's own beat. And then and then when you sing
29:18
on top of it, it's it's a, it's working like as a as with the
29:24
big instead of, instead of just on top of it.
29:26
Like, yeah, that's what, yeah. I feel like that's what these
29:29
guys do very differently to a lot of just mainstream.
29:33
I reckon that's because he hears music so good because of like
29:35
his instruments and shit. Yeah, yeah, it seems like that.
29:37
He just knows how to like, yeah, what notes to be, where to be in
29:41
the song. That's why I like, do you
29:43
remember seeing that, that clip of Pharrell and yeah, is it
29:46
Kanye? And they and they like.
29:47
That a model show or something? Yeah, catwalk.
29:49
Yeah, catwalk. And they were listening to it.
29:51
Yeah. Yeah.
29:52
And they would just bump in. They're like, yeah.
29:54
And I was just like, bro, that's they're artists, you know, they
29:58
just know how to decipher things.
29:59
But going into this whole story with Cuz I've been seeing trends
30:04
at the moment. I was talking about it with
30:05
Hanalei and kind of going on this whole hey, Bieber thing.
30:09
It's the stalking allegations and I, I kind of want to get
30:13
your take on this and, and, and basically see whether or not you
30:17
think it's a bit creepy, but basically I'll give you the
30:19
breakdown of it, OK. And it is that people think that
30:23
Hailey Bieber basically built her life prior to them being
30:27
married and being together in a way where she could basically
30:32
follow him. So stalk him.
30:34
And I want to play this clip for you.
30:35
So I want to play this clip for you.
30:37
And I think it's a bit crazy because it's she's obviously
30:41
heard, by the way, the haters, all right?
30:43
And she's heard basically the allegations that, oh, she's a
30:45
stalker radar. OK, so I want to play this clip
30:47
for you and I want to kind of get your take on it.
30:50
Jokes about using them for stalking iPhone.
30:54
Very straightforward. Obviously these are a couple
30:58
more that I keep on me and those are like 10.
31:01
I really just use them for a lot of the simple stuff like surfing
31:05
anonymously, commenting, stalking, viewing girls pages,
31:10
making multiple accounts, you know, that kind of thing.
31:16
She also is that a thing crazy. That was like $20,000 worth of
31:21
funds. I find that crazy.
31:23
Hey, So what was the? So the allegations are that she
31:27
built her basically lifestyle around Justin Bieber and
31:30
basically his day-to-day life. Now, she supposedly was in the
31:32
same circles as JB regardless, right now, her dad and her dad's
31:37
brother famous already, Stephen Baldwin or whatever.
31:39
Yeah. And actor I think.
31:42
Yeah, actor or something. Now, I don't really know him at
31:44
all. So he was obviously in the
31:46
circles anyway, so he introduced Haley to Justin at some stage.
31:50
I've seen that video clip. Yeah, she was a bit, I think she
31:52
was honestly just nervous. Like I I get nervous when I see
31:57
someone who I I really look up to.
31:58
Because you're talking she kind of looked like she didn't or
32:01
acted like she didn't care during the interaction.
32:03
Yeah, but that's just nerves, bro.
32:04
Yeah, I reckon it is nerves. So I'll defend her in that
32:07
sense. But where it gets a little bit
32:08
creepy, and this is where I kind of, I'm a bit wary of the
32:12
situation, Was that when JB and Selena broke up back whenever it
32:17
was? Yeah, bro, they got together
32:19
within months and then got married within a month or two of
32:22
being. I think, I think, I think
32:24
because we were watching the documentary, bro, My Mrs. loves
32:27
it. So we were watching the
32:29
documentary a couple of nights ago.
32:31
They yeah, they they were together for like a year or
32:35
something after they had a quick break, and then they got married
32:39
after like a couple of months after they got back together.
32:41
OK, Well, that's what a documentary said.
32:43
Yeah. Now I seem pretty crazy.
32:45
I need your. Perspective on this now.
32:46
Did they get married? Because he was, Obviously he's
32:49
Canadian. He's Canadian, yeah.
32:51
He had a felony. The rumor is is that they got
32:54
married really quick. To stay in the country because.
32:56
He didn't have the green card. Oh, bro, I believe it.
33:01
That's crazy, bro. I believe it.
33:03
Gee. I got.
33:05
I'm not, surely. American leads JB stay, but
33:07
yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's that's kind of
33:09
crazy because in the documentary she goes apparently when they JB
33:15
asked her to marry him. He, she went to, she told the
33:19
documentary, I went to my family and said, am I gonna, can you,
33:22
if there's a time I'm gonna make a mistake and you need to let me
33:25
know it's right now. I was thinking that's a pretty
33:28
interesting conversation to have with your family at that point,
33:32
cuz I'd assume most people would be like, yeah, they're gonna get
33:35
married. They love each other.
33:36
It'd already be at that point by the time you're gonna get
33:38
married, usually. Yeah, usually, but maybe
33:42
because. He needed a green card.
33:44
Wow. You know, but I thought that was
33:47
I thought that was weird. And I told my that's probably
33:49
one of the many times she told me off cuz I was like right.
33:52
Is that weird? No, she's saying to a appearance
33:55
like, should I marry him? I'm not too sure.
33:57
I was like, bro, that's weird. And she's like shut up.
33:59
You don't even know what it does, bro.
34:03
I almost got kicked out of the theater bro.
34:05
Of the lounge you're sleeping on the air, The bed.
34:09
Yeah, they're in the spare bed tonight.
34:12
Yeah, so I reckon, bro, that actually kind of sounds a bit.
34:15
Yeah, look, I don't know. True.
34:17
I've heard things I've seen now. You got me.
34:19
You got me, You got me. I'm just putting it out there.
34:22
It's a bit weird that you've, you know, low key.
34:25
Like she's openly admitted that, you know, she stalked her, her
34:28
now husband. Yeah, which you know what?
34:30
And this is my take on it. Low key.
34:32
I take my hat off too, because she she shot her shot and she's
34:35
both, she's living the life now. I stalk my Mrs. but OK, so see,
34:41
that's a good example. Exactly.
34:44
What's the difference between what she did?
34:47
Yeah, only because she's a famous.
34:48
And all these people liking all these kills Instagram stories
34:51
like nothing. Exactly.
34:52
If you're a guy, yeah, I guarantee you open up your
34:55
phone. I want to see your followers who
34:57
you follow. Yeah, and all the girls you
34:58
don't you've never talked to in your life.
35:00
Yeah. And you're still trying to
35:01
message them creeps. Right.
35:03
So see what's the difference between that and what we would
35:05
do on a day-to-day basis before we date?
35:07
Yeah, a girl. And it's actually, I was on the
35:10
side of Haley's a creep. But then as we've talked about
35:12
that, it's probably just the same.
35:14
It really is. Yeah.
35:15
And Loki, she's, she's probably just.
35:17
She shot her shot. She shot her shot right, and
35:19
that's my take. And when All all, all all, What
35:23
am I trying to say? All net, Yeah.
35:25
Swish, baby, swish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:27
Life into the bank. Because like, really JB, he
35:30
would have had every single girl throw himself at her so he had a
35:32
plentiful option to like who I want to choose.
35:34
Something about Haley made made sense so he would have unless
35:38
she blackmailed him somehow. Yeah true.
35:42
Then yeah Diddy good job cuz she got the one of the good you got
35:46
one of the greatest artists of all time Diddy.
35:52
How Diddy times all this is the question.
35:55
Duh. Celebrity circles.
35:57
Yeah, Nah, I can't. I have to stop thinking about
36:00
that because I can't let JB. He's going to taint my my.
36:04
I love JB too much from to be Diddy bro.
36:06
Yeah, so, well, I mean, I just, that was my that was my take.
36:10
So yeah, I think she shot her shot.
36:12
And yeah, so. We started somewhere and we
36:14
actually came around. Yeah.
36:15
Full circle. Full circle.
36:17
Yeah. OK, so the last one I just want
36:19
to touch on is the wedding theme.
36:21
Oh, yeah. You know, Yeah.
36:21
Yeah. So if we're if we're having a
36:22
wedding, if I have a wedding one day, then who would be your
36:26
dream? I'll just put it to that to you
36:29
to start with. Bro straight up.
36:31
Like, shall I play him? Oh yeah.
36:34
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:36
OK. So sorry if I'm sorry to cut you
36:38
off. If I was going like a person
36:41
that was actually going to sing right for me right now, who's
36:44
hot in the game? Burner Boy.
36:46
Burner. Boy is my guy, man.
36:48
Like I he I really respect and he doesn't get the accolades
36:52
that, you know, a lot of people should probably give him.
36:54
Yeah, he's obviously not on JB's level, but he knows music bro
36:58
and his performance, like I've seen him live when he came to
37:01
Brisbane in in bro no Word of life is one of the best
37:04
performance I've. Seen bro, I reckon.
37:05
I reckon you like Bena Boy more than Michael Jackson.
37:08
As of right now, yeah bro, you, yeah, you know.
37:10
As of right now, he's fire, bro. He's fire.
37:13
Yeah, yeah, he's fire. And he's got his own swag as
37:15
well with a. 100% like, and to be in all fairness, like I
37:19
didn't see MJ live. Like I only loved Michael
37:22
because my parents loved him. And so they would always play
37:25
him when I was a kid. Yeah, bro.
37:27
So I grew up, you know, 15 years of hearing MJ in the background
37:30
and I'll just like, bro, yell mean car rides mean, you know,
37:32
like that's how I fell in love with him And then.
37:34
What happened when he stepped in the same bit as the bull?
37:37
Oh. You know.
37:37
It's in the car rides. I'll defend him.
37:42
Actually bro, I don't believe any of that.
37:44
I don't believe. Any of that bro, you know, But
37:49
I'll say like right now. Bena boy, Bena boy, he would be
37:53
fired at the wedding. Well, what song coming down?
37:56
Oh. Coming down bro.
38:00
What? What?
38:01
Oh God, I I don't know. The Indian part got me.
38:10
I just, I don't know what I just did.
38:12
Bro what song what I do right now?
38:15
When they come down in the what's that one, you know?
38:19
I'd go tested, approved. Oh yeah, yeah, tested, approved
38:22
that. That'll be my song.
38:23
I really rate it because it's just because the way he
38:25
performed it live. That's why I remember that.
38:28
The side one for my one as well I've shown you and I think we
38:31
have agreed on you rate it as well.
38:32
This is what I was thinking. I even showed how to like this.
38:34
Yeah, I want this at our wedding.
38:36
Bro coming down the aisle. Bro this would be so mean it.
39:33
Right. And you know, what's really cool
39:35
about that is, like, you know, people are vibing with it
39:37
because they're all looking at him like, yeah, who was this?
39:39
Yeah. Yeah.
39:40
Do you reckon for a wedding performance you don't want it to
39:42
be too much of a vibe? All right, so, yeah.
39:44
What do you reckon? Flat chats.
39:46
Yeah. And our flat chat of the week
39:48
was what artist would you want performing at your wedding?
39:52
Wedding. But keeping in mind that whoever
39:56
this artist is, you don't want them to take the day away from
39:59
you. That's what we said, yeah.
40:00
Because you're like, because JB did this performance for.
40:03
These Indian couple and got millions of dollars, but like,
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bro, Loki is a Justin, Justin Bieber performance at this point
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and not your wedding Like everyone's gonna like.
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And then you're gonna be like, yo, should we all take a photo
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of that? Yeah, yeah, Hold on.
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Wait. We just gotta see Justin Bieber.
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You're like, guys, I'm like Ring.
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Ring's on Garmin, I do or no? Yeah, exactly there.
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So for me, I would have to choose an artist as like low
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key, Yeah. So I think who I see was
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Gimmeon. Is it Gimmeon Giveon?
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Giveon. Giveon.
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Yeah. So I would go to someone like
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Giveon, who I think is he doesn't have, like, poppy music.
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Yeah. Like it's that type of music
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where, like, you would expect a solo artist in a suit just to
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kind of sing. I don't know, like, yeah, yeah,
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yeah. That's where I'm getting that
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with him. So I'll treat someone like him.
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Yeah. Who?
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Pretty handsome black dude though he might be much that's
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true. Check the show over.
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Oh well, you got 2 heads on those they.
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Check a box on your head cuz he morphsuit.
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You can sing in the back. Yeah.
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You can't be seen brother. You can't be seen.
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That's who I would go. Yeah, that's who I would go.
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Who would you go? So it has to be an artist.
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It has to be an artist. Yeah, yeah.
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But I'd probably keep it Kiwi. Yeah, I'd probably.
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I'd probably. Oh, Stan Walker, I reckon be
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mean. Yeah, I write it.
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Yeah, I'd go Stan Walker. Dan Stan Walker, if you listen
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to it. We're much just like we need you
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there. Yeah, true, true.
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So I would definitely there. So I do feel like you need to
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make sure that you just don't have someone that's yeah, it
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takes takes a lot. He can't be too famous.
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But you see it's. And Drake.
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Do you come into your performance?
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Oh, it just takes half the girls back to his back to his
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apartment. You're like bro, come on.
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Yeah, hard actually. That's who I think might be able
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to do a performance. Drake.
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Drake. Jake could do anything.
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Drake. Yeah.
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Yeah, I reckon he with all his throwbacks, yeah, he'd be able
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to do something similar to what? What?
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What's his name? And he's got Aura as well, yeah.
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Aura, bro, yeah. So that's what, that's why I'm
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getting that with that. So yeah, yeah.
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So if you got someone that, yeah, you want to pull me when
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you make sure it's just not anyone that's good looking.
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Yeah. And anyone that doesn't have
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massive songs. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
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Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, well, that's us for
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another point. Bro that was another one for us.
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