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Weekend Recap PBC/Amazon, DAZN & ProBox! Preview Rematches Mayer/Ryan & Zepeda/Farmer! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll start with recap. John will be
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  Speaker 1: joining us here shortly. We'll start with recap from the
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  Speaker 1: PBC card, the Deown card, and the Pro Box card.
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  Speaker 1: Fandora kind of had a walk in the park, although
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  Speaker 1: I did like the way he used his jab Jesus ramos,
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  Speaker 1: look pretty good, look pretty good. It did fight back,
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: so it made it entertaining even though it was fairly
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: one sided. And then Terrell Goshier should have got the
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: decision over Elijah Garcia. Good fight, fun fight to watch,
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  Speaker 1: It was competitive, but he just got hit too many
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  Speaker 1: times with flush shots. There'd be times where at maybe
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the round he would uh block shots
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  Speaker 1: with his with his gloves or move his head offline.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it didn't last long. So I thought
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: he lost that fight Tierra Brown, which I said last
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  Speaker 1: week that I did put a little money on it,
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  Speaker 1: just odds wise, because I thought the odds were a
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: little high. I didn't I thought Sky was gonna win,
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  Speaker 1: though I do have to admit, but Tira Brown did
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: her thing. She roughed up Sky on the inside, and
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  Speaker 1: Nicholson really had no answers for it, and then Pro
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: Box Leicester Martinez took care of business and that Hernandez
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  Speaker 1: Lucero fight was. It was a very fun fight, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll go over that. Of course, this weekend we got
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  Speaker 1: we got some rematches, uh MICHAELA. Mayer and Sandy Ryan
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  Speaker 1: on ESPN and ESPN Plus. On the Zone we have
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  Speaker 1: Zepeida and Farmer too, which I'm looking forward to that one.
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  Speaker 1: We'll catch up with John. As far as the t
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  Speaker 1: k O Dana White Turkey stuff, I do have some
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  Speaker 1: questions for him. We haven't talked to him in a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and the w BO made quick work
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  Speaker 1: of ordering Demando. I like Xander Zaiez and Fundora Sebasti
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  Speaker 1: the door. I think it's a good fight. It is funny,
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  Speaker 1: you know what gets like, you know, called quickly and
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  Speaker 1: not alast find that kind of interesting. But I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a good fight. And I guess the only thing
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  Speaker 1: that could come in between would be uh a unification,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm assuming they'd make that fight, but we'll see
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  Speaker 1: either way. Let's start with the PBC card. Elijah Garcia
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  Speaker 1: to rug Gashier for years, well me not years, but
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Goucher was how people used to say it, like right
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: when they started getting on TV. Gachier. Anyway, Gashier put
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  Speaker 1: his ass down with you know, a big shot which
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: kind of played out very similar to the Tim Zoo
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  Speaker 1: fight uh early. Anyway, it was a clean right hand,
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  Speaker 1: a nice little one two. Actually he goes down and
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  Speaker 1: and he went down pretty hard. Elijah did, and he
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  Speaker 1: started taking shots after that. Garcia did you know, start
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  Speaker 1: to get get something back. He started going to the body,
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  Speaker 1: these little two punch combos. Late kind of finished stronger,
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  Speaker 1: but the damage is done. As far as winning the round,
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  Speaker 1: Elijah I thought bounced back in the second round though,
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  Speaker 1: good pressure by him, good body and headwork, straight right hands.
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  Speaker 1: But Gashier had his own looping and straight right hand
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  Speaker 1: as well. So but yeah, I thought. I thought the
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  Speaker 1: straight right hands, the right upper cut in the looping
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  Speaker 1: right hands were enough to give Elijah that round. The
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  Speaker 1: third round, Elijah was busier, but he wasn't as accurate.
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  Speaker 1: It was a two way round. I'd give it to Gushier.
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  Speaker 1: I gave Elijah because of his jab and the body work.
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  Speaker 1: The fourth. The fifth I had to go to Goushat.
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  Speaker 1: Great back and forth round though. That's the thing about
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  Speaker 1: this fight. It was a really fun fight, really fun.
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  Speaker 1: It just you know, well, I'll talk about what they
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  Speaker 1: got to do with Elijah after this fight. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just thought Gouchet with the counter rights, either lead
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  Speaker 1: or counter. He actually started landing uppercuts too. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that gave him the round. As the sixth as well,
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: Guchet started really let his hands go, landing flush shot
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: and it's like I said, it's not like Elijah wasn't
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: having success, it's just he was getting clipped way too
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: many times. I gave him the sixth as well. Oh wait,
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  Speaker 1: that was what I just said. The seventh. I gave
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: him the seventh as well. Jab more right hands, just
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: the more effectively fighting fighter, if that makes sense. He
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  Speaker 1: was just But I did think Elijah in a close round,
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  Speaker 1: got the eighth. He did apply some pretty good pressure,
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  Speaker 1: but that you have having you know Therell was countering
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  Speaker 1: pretty well. It was a close round. These were, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, competitive in close rounds, but just overall, Terrell
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  Speaker 1: was landing the better shots. I gave him the ninth.
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  Speaker 1: In the tenth, so yeah, Elijah got the eighth, but
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: Buschet came right back with the better shots. The tenth
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  Speaker 1: was close though, a great, great round early combinations and
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  Speaker 1: then a late a late push by Terrell. Did he
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: steal the round? You know, I gave it to him,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, you know, like six', FOUR i
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  Speaker 1: was pretty good with ninety five ninety four both, ways
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  Speaker 1: and then ninety six ninety Three Elijah, garcia and LIKE i,
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  Speaker 1: SAID i JUST i did not see him win in that.
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  Speaker 1: Fight and as far As elijah, GOES i know they
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: were talking, about you, KNOW i think it was his family,
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: said you, know if you don't have like a was
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: it like a, title like a belt OR i can't
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: remember what they, said but if you don't have a
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  Speaker 1: belt by age twenty one or, something you need to
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: get a full time. Job that's kind of. INTERESTING i,
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: MEAN i don't, know LIKE i would Keep Elijah. Garcia
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: first of, ALL i would match him up stylistically with
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: someone that's not going to counter him as, much AND
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: i WOULD i would fight right around this, level but
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  Speaker 1: just different. Style AND i would do it for whether
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: it takes, one, two, THREE i don't even know how many,
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  Speaker 1: fights two or three, fights and see if there's some
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  Speaker 1: improvement in. There the guy has the potential that he
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  Speaker 1: showed kind of early in his, career and sometimes that
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: can be a jinx when you're that. Young even Like
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: David benavidez when he was very, young you, know he
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: he had a, setback, Right but then you look at
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: Like Bam, rodriguez you, know he was really, young and
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: he hasn't had. Setbacks, man he's looked pretty damn. Good.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's had some you, know maybe B b performances
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  Speaker 1: or something like, that but it's not like he went
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: out and just you, know he showed out. Good he is,
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  Speaker 1: basically And i'm not trying to put those two, together
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  Speaker 1: but he's still young enough to WHERE i would keep
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  Speaker 1: him at this level for a little. Bit he's obviously
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  Speaker 1: a fun fighter to. Watch you can get him paid,
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  Speaker 1: more you, know just undercard fighter right now and see
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  Speaker 1: where it. Goes but LIKE i, said there's times where
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: there's times where he does block. Shots there's times where
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  Speaker 1: he moves his, head but a lot of times is
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the round and then it's just it's.
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  Speaker 1: Gone so clearly he's not able to do, that and
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  Speaker 1: he stands in front of his guy too, much especially
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  Speaker 1: a counterpuncher like you Know, buchet and you could, tell
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  Speaker 1: like we're starting to See garcia and clearly has some,
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: pop but his power wasn't what many of us thought
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Because guchet was letting his fucking hands go and he's
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: known to not do that against certain level of. Guys
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: and you, KNOW i definitely think there should be a,
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: Rematch and it.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of seemed like it kind of seemed like they
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: were talking about that in the, ring BUT i couldn't
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: read lips AND i didn't you, know there was no.
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  Speaker 2: Mic but it needs to be a. Rematch and, honestly
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  Speaker 2: LIKE i don't, KNOW i don't know IF i do that.
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  Speaker 1: Rematch IF i was as you, guys you to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with, you AND i think that, sometimes LIKE i,
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  Speaker 1: said it can kind of be a minor jinx when
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: you do really good early and you beat some, guy
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you're beating someone that is maybe like maybe
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: over the, hill but we just don't know it, yet
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: and then we see him in another fight and you're, like, oh,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: yeah that dude was he was just, washed that's, all you. Know,
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  Speaker 1: MEANWHILE i don't, know it's just LIKE i, said he is.
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  Speaker 1: Young you, know he's only twenty one but, YEAH i really,
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  Speaker 1: think like you, know how he fought Against rassinda's you,
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  Speaker 1: KNOW i thought. THAT i don't, know LIKE i just
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  Speaker 1: there's certain fights that he just looked very good. AT
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: i thought he looked good Against, selgato you. Know so,
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  Speaker 1: yeah you, know they moved him pretty, fast you, know
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  Speaker 1: to an extent, Anyway but if you look at the
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  Speaker 1: last two fighters he's, fought you, know they've put him
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  Speaker 1: in his place, basically so young enough to keep. Improving,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: yes where is you? Know how far and how far
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: could he go with that? Improvement that's what you're and
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: have to find. Out but, yeah as an undercard, fighter
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  Speaker 1: style matched, Up i'm not saying take a big step
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  Speaker 1: back and just let him knock out a bunch of
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: people LIKE i. Said that's Why i'm, saying stay around this,
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  Speaker 1: level just different. Style but, obviously LIKE i, Said gushe Or,
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  Speaker 1: goshier he deserves a rematch, though SO i hope he
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: gets it because you can right or. Wrong but then,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: again you, know maybe he'll move on to something. Else
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: that's exactly What i'm gonna do right. Now So Jesus Ramos,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: junior LIKE i, Said Shram Scram Shram shram just a tough.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Fighter LIKE i, said you can't you can't really give,
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  Speaker 1: him you, know a bunch of or even, rounds really much,
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  Speaker 1: rounds many. Rounds but he he fought really hard and
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: so stylistically it was fun to. WATCH i, mean the
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: last little bit of the first, round some really good,
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  Speaker 1: exchanges you, know the jab hooks to the body and.
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  Speaker 1: Head it looked like in the second round early body
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  Speaker 1: SHOT i think it was a left hand Bothered. Shram
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: and you know in the third, round definitely back and
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: forth and all, that but the cleaner shot was ramost you,
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  Speaker 1: know overall you could see by the fourth and fifth,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: round you, know he started picking up the pace and
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: going for the stoppage and To, shrams you, know like
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: to his, credit he definitely would, fight was firing back
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: and all. That you. Know so coming to the seventh,
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  Speaker 1: round a left HOOK i think right around the midway
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  Speaker 1: point and some follow, up you, Know shram was. Hurt
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: did they need to stop? It probably. Not was it
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: in the the referees head That shram was a late,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: replacement and maybe he was, like you, know we're. GOOD
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: i could see that playing playing a. Part you, know
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  Speaker 1: it's ONLY i think he's was his last two now
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: last two because he went Against Vladimir. Hernandez we will
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: talk about him a little. Bit his last two were,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: stoppages so maybe that played into. It he wasn't gonna
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: win the fight, obviously SO i wasn't like bent out
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: of shape from. It BUT i thought they could. HAVE
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: i thought they could have kept. Going and so Ramos,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: MAN i, mean there's plenty of talent for him at fifty,
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  Speaker 1: four he's what twenty, three twenty four at east twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Four you, know he's got good hand, speed he keeps
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  Speaker 1: his guard fairly, high he uses his, jab he digs
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: to the. Body we are finding out like. That he
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: he wants to be a little more responsible, NOW i
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: will say.
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  Speaker 3: That and so maybe we thought that it would be
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a lot like he'd be even more fun fighter to
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: watch per, se like just action pack.
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  Speaker 1: Guy BUT i think it also has to do with
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: his opponent and that type of. Thing so you, know
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  Speaker 1: like That Santa, maria that was a you, know that
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  Speaker 1: was a fight that went the, distance and it started
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: to show some like, huh you, know but he's faced you,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: know some all guys obviously the Ericson lubin. Fight Uh
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  Speaker 1: Hernandez Mendoza zario, obviously you, know not. There but you,
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  Speaker 1: know there's just so much talent at twenty and he's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: only twenty. Four at fifty, FOUR i still like him a.
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  Speaker 1: LOT i think he's got enough power and he's got,
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  Speaker 1: fundamentals AND i think that you, know he's good at.
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  Speaker 1: Range when it's time to step, up he steps. UP i. Think, stylistically,
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  Speaker 1: though LIKE i, said he's just he's not necessarily. Looking
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: he's looking to be a little bit more. RESPONSIBLE i
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: think in the end it will do him. Good but
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: you know That luban, fight it was a competitive, fight
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  Speaker 1: and if you Had lubin, Winning i'm not gonna sit
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: there and you, know have a big debate about. IT
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: i REALLY i thought it was just a close, fight
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  Speaker 1: AND i do want to see it, again you. KNOW
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  Speaker 1: i think it's definitely worthy to see it. Again so we'll.
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  Speaker 1: See maybe that's the one they'll go to. NEXT i don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know obviously he's got a little work to. DO i
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: think he will come through that fight a little Bit
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: i'm speaking, Of but, YEAH i liked WHAT i. Saw
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: i've noticed some people are kind of down on him and,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Lately i'm Not i'm Not. Fandora LIKE i, said fairly
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: easy night at the. OFFICE i did like his. Jab of,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: course he brought the pressure he generally, does BUT i
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: like the. JAB i thought he was bringing efficient jabs
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to start out. With then he started jabbing with the right.
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  Speaker 1: Hook he come third, round he hurt MAYBE i don't,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: know two minutes into the round something like. That he
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: heard him buzz, them or at least buzz. Them you,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: know his His booker's eye was swelling, up those. Bleeding
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: there was a left upper, cut and you, Know booker
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  Speaker 1: actually landed a couple of decent left kind of left,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: overhands and even in that fourth, round he definitely landed
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: like a Good early in that fourth, round he landed
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: a good, shot but you, know a left upper cut
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and a few clean, shots and then you, know they
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: stopped the. Fight and you, KNOW i did think that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: they could have let that. GO i thought it got
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: stopped too. Early i't fully admit that it does seem
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: like we're you, know it wasn't an equally matched, fight
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and sure the size can play a, part of, course
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  Speaker 1: BUT i don't, know LIKE i just thought it was
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  Speaker 1: an early. STOPPAGE i. DON'T i don't know what else to.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Say you, KNOW i really. DID i thought it was
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: an early. STOPPAGE i wasn't a big big fan of the.
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  Speaker 1: Stoppage that, Said LIKE i, said it didn't look Like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: booker had much for. Him he did land some of
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: those overhand, left So i'll give him. Credit but, YEAH
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  Speaker 1: i thought THEY i thought it was a little just
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: a little, early that's. All so, yeah pretty one sided fight,
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  Speaker 1: Obviously but the card, itself like it, was it was
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: just had good, action you, know those three the two
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: fights before. It even though LIKE i, said The ramos
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: fight was pretty one sided on the, cards it still was.
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  Speaker 1: Entertaining so, OVERALL i thought it was A i thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a really good. CARD I i liked. IT
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  Speaker 1: i thought it was. Good and it's good to see
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  Speaker 1: that they got, another uh you, know just straight up
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  Speaker 1: on An amazon card coming up in two. Weeks and
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  Speaker 1: then it does sound like they have one coming up
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  Speaker 1: In may as well that we'll talk about a little.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Bit let's see. Here oh, yeah So Sky, nicholson, Uh Tierra,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: brown actually hold, on, SORRY i got this message HERE
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: i have to respond to really, quick all, right the
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  Speaker 1: Hell So Tierra. Brown LIKE i, SAID i did think
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: she shouldn't have been as much of an underdog as
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: as people had. Her SO i did put some plus
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: money on it BECAUSE i thought it should be you,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: know like below what it. Was BUT i wasn't sold
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  Speaker 1: like her inside, game AND i knew obviously that's what
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: she was going to try to go to, clearly but
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: having seen some of her, fights like SOMETIMES i was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: wondering about her left, hook AND i was wondering about
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: her right, hand but especially her, Hooks LIKE i knew
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: she'd go to the. Body AND i also didn't know
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  Speaker 1: how much they'd Let tierra work on the, inside AND i,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: thought like the hands free, stuff you, know one hand.
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  Speaker 1: Free she did a great job And sky had no.
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  Speaker 1: ANSWER i did Give sky in a slow round based
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  Speaker 1: off like some, jabs like a decent land or too.
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  Speaker 1: LATE i did give her that round and Then tierra
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: kind of close the, distance you, know landing to the,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: body a few rights to the, head and you, Know
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: nicholson was either like moving too much but then not,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: countering and she didn't use her jab as well she normally.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Does obviously that has something to do With, Brown BUT
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: i will say this LIKE i really liked as she
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: was trying to escape the left hook that would kind
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of put her back in her. Place That Tierra brown was.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Landing so she was very, effective and some of it
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: was just shoe shining worked to the, body but she had,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: her you, know right where she wanted. Her there was
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a late left hand and some jabs and, whatnot BUT
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: i thought she was moving without jabbing and landing enough
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to give her that. Round SO i definitely Gave tierra that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: ROUND i gave her the third round early in, there
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: landing the, body nice left hooks in two right. HANDS
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: i think one was straight and one was. Upper she,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: was you, know kind of mixing it up that. Way
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a few decent lands For, sky but not. Much the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: fourth round really, close and you, know Obviously brown still
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: bring that pressure like she did the whole fight, basically
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: but there were times where it was not as effective
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and she wasn't landing that. Clean but then, again Like
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: sky was holding a lot, Too so that one was
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in between the fifth, round early left hook and little
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: short punches to the. Body couple landed to the head.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: TOO i thought that was enough the. Holding there was
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: more clinching going, on but some nice counter left hands
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and straight left hands either counter or straight late By,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: sky but still not doing a whole, lot you, know
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: in that one hand FREE i thought the sixth round
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: was a good example of. That the fight was just
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: on the, inside a lot more clinching and just kind
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: of grinded it, out you. Know and so the seventh
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and eighth were really, slower sloppy, ROUNDS i will say.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: That SO i think it was one in one. THERE
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: i gave one, one you, know the seventh To. BROWN
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: i THINK i gave the eighth The, sky and THEN
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: i Gave brown the ninth and the. Tenth it was
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: a close. Round the ninth, round, THOUGH i will say
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: THAT i just thought she she landed, better especially when
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it was on the. Inside and overall in the tenth
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: was a two way. Round once again the cleaner. SHOTS
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: i Thought sky was missing a lot of. Shots but once,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: again her inside game definitely needs, help like it really.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Does she she was lost on the. Inside and you,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Know Eddie hearn obviously is a, promoter right AND i
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: See john in the room now saw pop beyond here
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in a second. Round he's a, promoter Right and promoters
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: are gonna say a whole, lot and they're gonna put
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: their fighters in sentences with you, know better fighters right
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: In hall Of fame and greats and all, that just
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in the same. Sentence that's what that's what they. Do
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: but you, know recent comments About eddie trying to say
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: skill wise when it came To Sky, nicholas if you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just look at, skill if you don't look at male or,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: female you just look at. Skill you, know he was
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: trying to say like top, three top, five AND i
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: always thought that was obviously. Ridiculous But, sky there was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: People that was Saying tierra was duck in, her and
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: then she always was saying That, Serrano Amanda serrano was
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: duck in, her and that ALWAYS i never tried to
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: really make a segment out.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Of, it you, know because it was like, whatever Just twitter.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Stuff but when you see a fight like, this go
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: how it, did and then you think Of Amanda, serrano work,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: great more accurate on the? Inside come, on, dude like it's.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Not they're not even on the same. Wavelength so back
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to the drawing. BOARD i do think she can get
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: better on the, inside but, HONESTLY i don't. Know we'll,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: see we'll see how that. Goes but, YEAH i had
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it six to, four seven to, three pretty. CLEAN i
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: didn't have a scorecard WHERE i thought she. Won she
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: did get one of, them ninety six ninety. Four the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: other one went To brown ninety six ninety four and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: ninety seven ninety, three SO i was cool with. That
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: i'm gonna go ahead and bring In john to the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: fold IF i can. There go, Alrighty john should be
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: popping in here in just a. Second get a little
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: sip of. Water let me turn my camera on, too it'll. Help,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: yeah you, Doing? John where?
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Else how's it going? Today not?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Bad not, bad not bad at. All it's been a
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: little while since we've been able to talk. Shop how
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you've been just in?
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: General, Oh i've been very, busy that's where it's been
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: a couple of. Weeks but been very busy with the
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: law side of. Things there's always something going, on but
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: it's it's extremely, busy and it's going to be looking
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: as of today like it's going to get a lot
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: more like that over the next month and a. Half
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: So i'm just just buckling in and glad to be.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Here CAN I, well it's for a worthy, cause, Right
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: it definitely.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Is it definitely. Is the bad guys filed a bunch
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: of emotion in one of my cases today at about.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Four, okay, interesting.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Gotta gotta buck buckle the chin strap and get that
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: responding and going the rest of the. Way get a bite,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: downright bite.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Downtime, well first and, foremost, obviously we'll talk about the.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Weekend we'll talk about what's coming up this. Weekend we
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: got two rematches and main. Events we do have a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: little bit more clarification in detail about the t K
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: O turkey Slash dana White. Stuff but let's start with
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: AN R I p To Big George foreman and And
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: i'd love to hear you, know have you share some
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: words about, uh you, know like a such a mainstream
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: guy for so many, reasons you know WHAT i. Mean
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: as he got, older people knew, him not even knowing.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Boxing he was just a Personal it seemed like so
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: many people just loved. Him he's a lovable guy type. Guy,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: yeah you know in the, ring you, know especially when he's,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: younger he had a different persona of, course but as
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the aged he could have ran for governor For christ's,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: sakes you.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: Know, yeah NO i think it was, that but it
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: also it was That foreman being of course very very
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: special and one of a, kind but also going back
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: to a different time of. Boxing one THING i could
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: say on the positive, end which really you led up,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: to WAS i was just because you don't get it
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: with boxing much. ANYMORE i was pleasantly surprised at how
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: MUCH i mean the mainstream media jumped over, it jumped
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: all over it. IMMEDIATELY i mean you had all, OUTLETS
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: i mean all the major networks on traditional LINEAR tv
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: and cable of, course all over social media. Platforms but
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: then you, know all over the online, newspapers you, Know
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: New York, Times Washington, post you, know you saw stuff
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: from THE, uk a lot of. Stuff so we we
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: we we just don't get that with boxing. Anymore it's
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: something we used to. Get and to see that that
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: was nice for, boxing and you, know showed you how
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: singular of a Person George foreman. WAS i mean in the,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: ring you, know his his comeback. STORY i think it's
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: just it's the it's the best sports comeback of all.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: TIME i MEAN i don't even think it's. ARGUABLE i, mean,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: right it's the most ball or something or hit the,
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: ball you know, Exactly you're putting your life on the
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: line literally at an older, age and especially at you,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: know at heavyweight with how hard those guys bang and
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: uh to you, know read gained the real. Title, again
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: we're not talking about. Alphabet that's WHY i hate when
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: they even get that into, it because we're not talking.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Alphabet he had the title in nineteen seventy, four and
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: he regained the title in nineteen ninety four after being
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: out of the ring for ten. Years they'll never be
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: as sports comeback like, that and it was almost surprising
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: because there ended up being so much to talk about with.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Them you. Know he originally came on the scene as
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: the nineteen sixty Eight olympic gold medalists in the heavyweight,
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: division and you, know that's that's where he became famous,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Initially so before he even fought around as a, pro
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: he was famous in nineteen sixty eight and that's where
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: that's where it all. Started then the fearsome you, know
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: young heavyweight who you, know Annihilated Joe, frasier who was
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: coming off Beating, alien was, undefeated and you know that
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: was a shocking performance at the. Time that's one of
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: my earliest boxing. MEMORIES i, MEAN i do remember that
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: at the, time but it was it was. Replay it
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: was replayed that the next. Day my recollection was ON
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: abc Wide world Of. Sports see that's, funny like The
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: cosell was there doing the call, live but you saw that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Afterward that was a somewhat rare. Occasion then where that
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Wasn't that wasn't thet you, know that WASN'T. Abc wasn't
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: the live. Broadcast just going, back but you, know of
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: course knocking Out fraser and then you, know getting upset
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: By ali when people thought That ali might die in the.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Ring so it was a huge, upset you, know The,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: rumbleman the. Jungle but then what gets a bit. Underrated you,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: know he had the, exhibitions The Five men in one.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Night but his first fight then back officially was against Ron,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: lyle which you could make an argue human that that
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: was the greatest heavyweight fight of all. TIME i, mean you,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: know it wasn't a title fight when you're talking about
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: one title people cared, about you, know but you know
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: with that and it was just a total. Brawl but
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: but it's exciting of a fight that you'll ever see
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: in any division. Heavyweights and then now that was live
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: ON Abc Wide world Of. SPORTS i, remember you, know
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: as a kid watching, that and you know that was
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: that was. Unreal and of course you get to see
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: that stuff on social media now out there on. YouTube
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: then you, know.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: REMEMBER Espn classics used to play a lot of old
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: fights like.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: That, YEAH i mean it's great getting to see, that you,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: know when when when those are out, there those are
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: worthy of anybody. Seeing, yeah you, KNOW i know my
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: son's thirty, one and he was watching all the Old foreman.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Fights. YEAH i even dug into one that just randomly,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: too just you, know the.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Moment but then you, know he and then when he came,
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: back he Had Gil clancy training. Him you, know he
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: had Had Archie moore and And Dick sadler early early.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: On and then when after The ali loss he went
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: To Gil. Clancy we weren't talking about that, much you,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: know not so of course a boxing. Thing but and
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: then you got upset By Jimmy young and then he
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: said he had the religious awakening and when it went,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: out went away and preached for ten. Years but you,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: KNOW i have Read George foreman had two. BOOKS i read,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: those SO i was, biopic and of COURSE i consider
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: myself a boxing. Historian but you, know he does acknowledge
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: he blames it on financial. Advisors but but my gut
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: feeling is probably it's it's hard to manage that kind of. Money,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: sure people don't want to think. It they want to,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: think oh IF i had that, one but it just.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Is and you, know he had the youth, center but
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: the money got. SPENT i mean he does say in his,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: story but he says it in his. BOOKS i, mean
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: he says he had no, money and they do project
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: that in the biopic kind of more than he wants
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: TO u center to. Run he would talk about, that
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: but the guy was the guy was dead. BROKE i,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: mean that's the that's the reality of. It so you,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: know And i'd heard him talk about that a lot of,
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: times which it's amazing when we think of these sticks in,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: life but you think of what was against about that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Time he hadn't fought for ten, years and, yeah he, decided,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: basically what CAN i do for? Money you, know there's
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: really only one, way right and now there's only really
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: one way for me to have a shot to get,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: money and that's to go back to. Box and everybody
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: laughed at us comeback at, first you, know he was
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: way overweight from where he had been and when he
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Thought zeuski in the first fight back in eighty. SEVEN
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: i remember that at the, TIME i, mean, everybody you,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: know pretty much everybody was just, saying, oh this is a.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Joke pack it in. There there was no. Love there
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: was no love there for the.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Comeback and he had a bunch of fights. Too it
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't like you just got to fight like. Mcneily and
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: then he went jumped into a big fights like. Now
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: he fought a lot of, fights.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Right nobody was asking for it then or. ANYTHING i,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: mean it wasn't this, lovable Popular george. Thing but you
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: know he talked about, that and he kind of did
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: fall through on, that SO i tend to believe. It
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: he just then kind of was patient of, Like i'm
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: going to kind of reintroduce myself to the ring and
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: just fight guys that aren't aren't that, formidable and and you,
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: know pick the STYLES i feel are good for, me
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: and built his way up until, then you, Know aarm
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: got interested in the, comeback got with. Him but AND
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: i REMEMBER i remember this specifically. Too aarm was about
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: to drop him very early, on because this is. True
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: and if you look at old boxing articles this. Happened george,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: had you, know was still, winning and Then aaron had,
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: him And aaron wanted him to fight Unders, eklund A swedish,
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: guy And george said he his style was too dangerous for.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Him he was like a boxer type, guy you, know
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: like he, said he did like the style batch, up
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: and he wouldn't fight, him and, uh you, Know arab was,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: LIKE i can't, You, george we can't go on like.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: This you don't want to fight, anything you want to fight.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Anybody and you know then, he, uh looking, back he
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: fought you, know he Fought, cooper he Fought, cowie you,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: know of course those. Guys he felt like the style matched.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Up and then you, know you had The cooney, thing
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: which you know that that wasn't that wasn't like kind
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: of like like it's kind of look at that now
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: like a. Joke that wasn't a joke at the. Time
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Like cooney had been, off but nobody was sold on
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: What foreman had and you know the odds of that
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: fight we're calling off the top of my, HEAD i
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: think they were, close so you, know that was kind
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: of a risk, actually and then the way he Knocked cooney,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: out you were, like, whoa you, know maybe maybe there
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: is something. Here and then he did. It THEN hbo
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: decided to take a look at, him and you, know
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: he did it To Addelson, rodriguez who was like a
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: fringe top ten guy at the time with that big left,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: hook and you were, like, whoa you, know look what
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: he did To cooney And. Rodriguez you still want to
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: say that he was going to go all the way or,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: something but you were, like, well, well maybe this isn't
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: a total.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe this is, hey wait a. Second, yeah you're, like
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: wait a. Second and then also the way he fought
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: too all of a, sudden the, jab you, know like
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: it was it was. He it was, like, wow, okay
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: this is a little different version of.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: Him, yeah The jab was, well The jab was looking.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Formidable and then you, know he had the then the
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: big pay per view fight With Holy, field which which
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: everybody was into it at that. Point that's where he
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: had built the momentum and and a lot of that
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: was fighting on LIKE. Usa you, know he and you,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: know then The Holy field he showed he was for
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: real and people were thinking he could retire, then but
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: he stayed at, it.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: And and people were thinking Holy field was going to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: light him up.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Too, yeah yeah they, did they. Did They it was
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: SURPRISED i.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: DID i was one of those THAT I i literally
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: came late to like a fight, party wasn't really thinking
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: much of the, fight just hanging out watching some, fights
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and all of a, sudden you, know all hell Broke. Loues,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: YEAH i was, like holy, shit this is a good ass. Fight.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: YEAH i. THOUGHT i was, LIKE i should have known
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Holy fields in the ring, too so of course it's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good. Fight Holy, field right.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Exactly that was the Holy field then he was in his,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: prime but he always ended up, brawling so you, know
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: you're you're always and that was a very entertaining.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Fight.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: YEAH i was just totally into the former thing at that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Time was psyched up for. It but, yeah it wasn't
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: expecting him to be able, to you, know necessarily do anything.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Either and he went the. Distance and you, know sometimes
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: get talked about much. EITHER i, mean you, know never
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: down in the, comeback never got knocked down in the coming,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: heavyweight you, know never went down and you, know ended
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: up you know a. Lady the only time he got
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: stopped but never never even went down in the. Comeback
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: so the chin was obviously my more formidable than everybody.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Realized and then you know he stayed at. It you,
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: know he lost that decision To, morrison but then he you,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: know he got famously at the time Talked Seth abraham
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: AT hbo into letting him get the crack at more
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: and you, know they figured they'd get some ratings on.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: It and, uh you know, what seeing that fight live,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: too and having watched just about every fight you could
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: have the form and, COMEBACK i do want to throw
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: my boxing opinion on. THAT i do think that fight
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: gets miscategorized a little. Bit you, Know george he was
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: down on the, cards no doubt it was down on
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: him to, Me but if you watched all the fights
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: in his comeback and like where he had trouble with With,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: morrison and then you, know even to some, degree like you,
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Know holyfield would always, brawl but he but he had
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: some skills, Too like it was, like you, know it
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: was like When george wasn't you, know he couldn't touch.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: It he wasn't touching you as, much you, know so
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: he wasn't wearing you down or breaking you, down and
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: and he just wasn't touching like like he like from
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: that opening bell With, more he was touching him the whole,
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: fight like you, know it wasn't like he wasn't. Landing
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: and you, know now it looked like he was, fading it,
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: did but you, know but he was, landing you. Know
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: SO i was always, like you, know he's in this.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: Thing you, know he's. Landing it's not one of these
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: fights where he can't get to him at all in the.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Rounds and THEN i think Something Larry merchant said during the.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: FIGHT i always remembered, it And i've watched that a
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: million times because it's such an inspirational fight when he
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: knocked Out. More but you Know, merchant who who to,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: me was always like kind of down On george's. Comeback
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: and you, Know larry's not afraid to say anything like you,
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: know he outs with. Him he has no filter or
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: fear like, that and he was kind of down on
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: it the whole. Time and because that morror fight. Started
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: but then LIKE i, remember all of a, sudden this
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: was befre for THE ko, obviously BUT i Remember Larry
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: merchant then just saying like, man like you, know the
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: will on this. Guy like you could Tell Larry merchant
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: really meant it, too and he'd seen everything at That
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: he was, like you, know the willpower this guy is
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: something that like you just don't you just don't see
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: and Like larry got that part, right like the. Guy you,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: KNOW i get emotional kind of thinking about what that
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: fight him and got five years. Old it's the toughest.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Sport like we, said you're getting hit in the. Head you,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: know you're you're literally putting your health and life at,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: risk and and the guys still giving it. All he's
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: got coming at more and and ended up getting to,
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: him which nobody thought was going to. Happen Like Gil,
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: clancy who's who's a real was one of the great
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: boxing experts of all time, too was, SAYING i remember
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: during that fight he, said you, Know george isn't the
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: one punch kind of. Puncher And i'm not like Knocking.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Gill i'm, saying like you got to remember, too that's
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: what everybody felt, like you, know he he was like,
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: clubbing like clubbing people all over and it was late
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: in the, fight so you, know. Goill clancy was just,
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: saying and he had trained, him like you, know he's
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: giving it everything he's, got but you know he's just
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: not would punch. Puncher but you, know you watch that,
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: reclay you could see that he did find like that
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: jab right, hand that jab short right, hand like he
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: threw that right before the one that knocked him, Out
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: so like you could See forman's mind, working, like, yeah
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: he already had something there and and and he got.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: It and you, know then he went on AND i
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: thought he got robbed Against Shannon, briggs even his last.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: FIGHT i thought that was one of the worst Robberies
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: i've ever. Seen and then you, know he got the
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: grill thing really going that. Time they were talking like
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: it was after, career but it was really like during.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Career you, know he was kind of getting that stuff,
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: going becoming a pitchman and, everything.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And he ended Up it is true.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: My understanding, though that he did end up making much
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: more money from the grill than he ever made it
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: in all his fights in the. Ring so he just
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: persevered with. Everything AND i got to meet him at
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: The Golatta grant fight In Atlantic city in ninety nine
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: AND i put that picture. Up, Yeah, YEAH i got
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: to Meet ali and get photographed with him And, foreman you,
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: know two of my biggest heroes of all. TIME i
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: always feel really fortunate about. That now they're both, gone,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Right but you know one THING i feel really fortunate,
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: too is because there are. Humans anybody could have a
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: bad day or thing like like WHEN i got to
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: meet both those, guys they were really nice to. Me
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: they weren't a, disappointment, right you, KNOW i feel lucky,
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Too like you can get disappointed when you meet somebody
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: like that and like, yeah.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: You're, like, oh this guy's an. Anshole, yeah you.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Know and the picture, thing it's different than the forming
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: PICTURE i got ninety nine and The ali was in ninety.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: ONE i mean there was no cell, phone there was no,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: celphone pick, camp like.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Even see the little orange mark it was at the
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: end of that. Erar but that's what that. Is, yeah exactly.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: Right you, Know like What i'm saying is it wasn't
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: as easy. Too had to say like, Hey, george you know, yeah.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's. Yeah it's like talking to a. Girl there's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: no there's no chat, room there's no apps to actually do.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: It, yeah actually do.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: It.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah that's a good, way and it's not Necessarily,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're. Right it's not as easy as the selfie
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: or you could just stop real, Quick hey you do?
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: It you, Know, yeah you're, right it's more. Personal it
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: was more. Personal so that's Why i'm taking his. Hand
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: that's that's that's what's good about the old the old.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Way so we got. That but so, Yeah george definitely
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: one of my. Heroes but if they're, positive it is
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: just all That George foreman did being a totally unique
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: character in life in The United, states and then from
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: the boxing, perspective it really was the most attention boxing
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: he's gone for a long. TIME i, mean it's most
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: important Because George forman is doing. It but WHAT i
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: want to say about that, too that's kind of underestimated
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: is those guys that got that, exposure as you, know
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: from The olympics the way they used to be and
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: then ON tv in. Seventies look at all the guys
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: it's ON tv, right trying to get this through to younger,
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: people because it's not older people just saying, oh everything
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: was great back. THEN i don't believe in doing that,
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: either but this was. Different Like Ali olympic gold medalist
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: at light heavyweight nineteen Sixty Joe, Frasier olympic gold medalist
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: at heavyweight nineteen sixty, Four George Foreman olympic Gold medals
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: heavyweight nineteen sixty, Eight Sugar Ray Leonard olympic Gold medalists
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: nineteen seventy six light, welterweight like and then these guys
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: all were ON tv in the seventies all the, Time
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Like Larry holmes lost in the trials To, bobbick and
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: that's in that. Era that's what set him, Back like
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: he have a much longer as cent because of. That
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: but then he got, there like.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: When he said he fought On Sugarray leonard's open like
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: debut and he was barely making any.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Money WHY i had to take the long. Road he
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: did well IN aaau and, stuff but he he didn't make,
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: it you, know he wasn't on The olympic. Team didn't
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: he didn't win a medal in The. Olympics but saying
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: like when those when, FORM i Mean foreman And homes
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: had a legit like popularity revival in the nineties fighting
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: ON usa And leonard tried to make you, know a
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: short lived. COMEBACK i remember, THAT i remember that ON.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Usa, yeah but he.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Had been fighting up until ninety, one you, know when
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: he lost To. Norris but like just, saying like those
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: guys got that, exposure Like foreman And, homes you, know
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: they got popular again in the nineteen, nineties but the
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: door was open for him with that people who knew
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: who they. Were, ye and then they were on LIKE
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: usa fighting all the. Time and because they had that,
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: base they got. Ratings like it's what you AND i
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: talk about WITH pbc or any of the promotions which
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: they're having so much trouble, Now like a guy who
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: gets ratings at one point in their career has a.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Value these were like the ultimate guys of.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: That but like it's it's that exact way, too.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Right they were at the highest.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Scale you, know no, doubt but it did it Did
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: it did.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: Work exactly that, way you, know, Right and those guys
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: were at the pinnacle of, that like when you got
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: exposure what that. Meant that's WHY i like using that
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: as an. Example they they were the, Ultimate but it
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: shows how long and look at all the Attention George foreman,
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: got you, know because he had that exposure at one
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: point and he had all the out of the ring
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: stuff then later, On but but he had that initial,
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: exposure you, know like Like Ali, forman you, Know Sugar Ray,
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Leonard Joe frasier and and the you know their legends
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: you know still today they were, great but but it
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: was also they got exposure while they were, great and
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: then it made people.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Here. YEAH i, actually, uh speaking Of Sugary. LEONARD I
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: i at the at The Mayweather mosley. FIGHT i was
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: there And i'm taking a piss AND i look over
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Its Sugary.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: Leonard, yeah it's always in. That it's always in the.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Right and everybody's racing to go wash their hands so
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: they can shake his, head you know WHAT i. MEAN
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: i was, like right when you had that little time
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: right before the fight's gonna, start it's, like, hey go
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to the, bathroom, now get it out of the, way you.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Know BUT i remember that his last fight ON, usa
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: AND i was at my girlfriend's house And i'd watch
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of rounds and turn the, channel go back to,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it turn, it just, like, OH i don't want to see.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: THIS i can't watch, this you. KNOW i kept watching,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: it but, YEAH i would be, like just please turn the,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: channel and then of, course you, know go back to
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it and see. It but, yeah that was my, first
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: uh my, first you, know number one FIGHTER i always will.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Be BUT i do, remember you, know my me and
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: my grandfather watched a lot of fights. Together and you,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: know it wasn't, like, uh you could google stuff or.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Whatever you, know a lot of time you'd have to
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: go library and. Stuff and SO i didn't know he taught,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: me but he'd he'd hold off on like telling me
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: who the winner is in a lot of these. Fights
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: so we're watching the you, know he's thrown in these,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: VCRs and So i'm watching him basically live to, me
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, Mean it's A sunday. Afternoon i'm
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: over at his house and we're just you, Know and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: SO i got a lot of that live feeling off of.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: That even the uh The Duran. LEONARD i didn't see
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: that live, live but to me it was. LIVE i.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: DID i did kind of know the first fight just
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: because you, know it was, hard hard to keep you
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't just stay, offline you know WHAT i. Mean it was.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Everywhere SO i didn't know that, part but, yeah a
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: lot of it was through that and AND i definitely
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: did that with With George, foreman and so it was
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: cool when he did come. Back it's, like, HEY i
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: know this, guy you, know LIKE i know his career
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and so, yeah, yeah it was, just, uh you're. Right
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of a lot of great things
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: written about him and said about, him and, yeah so it, was,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: uh you, KNOW i just wanted to lead with, that
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: that's for. SURE i didn't like the picture Looking.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: I'm proud of. That i'm proud of that, one of.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: Course But ali And, foreman two of my. Heroes getting
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: to meet him and not being disappointed and having those,
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: photos you, know that's Something i'll cherish for the rest
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: of my. Life And george deserves all the accolades for you,
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: know what an amazing life he led and all these unbelievable.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Accomplishments but to, me there's always a bit of mystery about,
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: him Which i've said this. BEFORE i, MEAN i would
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: think there's some people that know, this but it's not
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: something you even, now you don't really hear, It like you,
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: know there's something else there with, him something that drove
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: those that will power and the competitive, instincts and even
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: even with what he accomplished and added the, ring and
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: he talks about sticking with things and stuff and it
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: is helpful and. Inspirational BUT i just Gotta i've always
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: had the feeling that there's that there's a lot of him.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Force that made him that, way because.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: Exactly, YEAH i don't think he, EVER i don't think
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: for whatever reason he ever really wanted to let that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: ON i, mean he talks about religion and, stuff And
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: i'm not discounting any of, that but there's still it
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: was always there with. Them that's one thread really that
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: was always there from The Olympical metal in the first,
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: career even though he was being jovial to that second.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: Career And i've told this story, before BUT i forget
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: who did it to. Him somebody had seen. It you
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: AND i were talking about a few years, ago AND
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: i had read, it but it was kind of along these.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: Lines this was during the Jovial george. Era somebody said
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: that they were With george and it was out In
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: vegas or something like, that in the fight weekend or
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: and somebody somebody went up up to him and touched
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: his touched his, belly And george said something, like incomplete,
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: seriousness my motherfucking. Belly, YEAH i think that's. It that's
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: that's where it's, LIKE i don't know what that, was
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: but that's like WHAT i kind of got, By like there's,
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: something there's something. There he's got some kind of internal
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: drive and.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Codd, yeah some sort of life experience or someone in
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: his life or. Something, yeah that's a good. Point there
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: hadn't been. Something well EVEN.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: I looked at that rated, too there's yeah with those
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: underrated things with, Him LIKE i think a big underrated
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: moment was, like you, know then it's after The Holy
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: feeld loss and he's working his way, back try staying,
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: relevant and you, know he's Fighting Alex stewart and he
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: has him down a couple times. Early then the fight
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: starts getting away from him and he's got the whole
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: left side of his face swelled up.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: THERE i remember he couldn't put his glasses on after
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the fight right in the. INTERVIEW i remember. That but
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: here's the.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: Thing you watched the last round of that fight when
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: he needed that, Round, yes and he he out Hustles
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: Alex stewart and takes that. Round, Yeah and you, know
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: this is a guy in his forties with his face
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: half swelled up like a pump can and he's win
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: in the final round of a fight like there's something.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Else there's something else in. This there was something else
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: in this.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Guy you. Know it Was Alex schultz WHO i was thinking,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: ABOUT i think because his eye got messed up in
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that one that was like ON. Espn, YEAH i know
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you're talking ABOUT i got him mixed up WHEN i
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: heard The alex. Start, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah mat.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: Fact now he mentioned him that That's schultz. Fight might
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: have even been ON. ABC i know it was.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: On either watching it on. Vacation me and my brother
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: watched that fight in the hotel a.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Rarity BUT i think it was ON abc BECAUSE i
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: can Picture Alex waller doing the, fight and you know
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: that wasn't. THAT a lot of people, said, Oh schultz got.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: UP i actually Thought george edged it. Out it was
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: one of those THAT i, thought, like, yeah he didn't
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: look good or, anything but, yeah, YEAH i thought he
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: did enough to edge it. Out but, yeah that was
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: a tough one for. Him But Alex, stewart you, know
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: he had him down a couple of times EARLY i
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: was ON, hbo and then he was letting it get
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: away from, him but he rallied in the last round
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: when his face was just swelled, up like you, know
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: like a. Pumpkin and there was that inner drive and
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: willpower and the guy that for all the things he
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: got done in. Life one thing in that biopic they
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: said THAT i didn't know that made sense just from boxing.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: SENSE i believed. IT i tended to believe, it like
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: they had him when he went and he first started
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: training and you, know and he ended up making The
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: olympic team in sixty eight that his amateur trainers were, saying,
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: like because he didn't HAVE i guess he really didn't
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: have that many amateur fights at that. Point and his
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: and his amateur trainers were, Like georgia are doing, Real,
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: well let's go for seventy. Two you, know you're you're
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: you're probably not ready. Yet and he, was you, know
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: in his, account he was, like, No we're going for.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: It you know this. Time it's you, know and think
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: what these guys. Did they were fighting. PROS i, mean, like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: Yes soviet block guys were. Pro that's not us saying.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: That that's.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Real, YEAH i mean these guys.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: Are that's how great they.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Were like it was in a lot of, sports, yeah
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: and a lot of like the basketball back, Then remember
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: we'd send the college kids and they'd have these grown adults, playing,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: right they're.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Playing adults in, basketball so you had forming a teenager
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: knocking out these these pros from the eastern. Blocks, Anyway but,
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: yeah it was it was, sad sad Losing george because you,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: know he's a he was a true he was a true.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: Legend but it's it's good to be able to talk about.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Him, yeah, yeah that that kind of reminds me of
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: even though with THE covid year and then like and
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: just getting a lot of people staying in you, know college,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: longer which is ultimately pretty, good but for, years college
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: hockey was that way where guys would go playing the
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: junior shir a couple of years and they'd have elgi you,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: know their. Fulgibility they'd be like twenty four to twenty,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: five you, know and just, experienced you. Know AND i
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: remember My gophers would always get beat by those guys
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: because we'd had all these young guys that are about
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: to go one and done or be there for two
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: years ago pro and we. Couldn't we. Couldn't we just
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: couldn't match him that the physical strength they played together
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: for so. Long but, yeah you're right, That, yeah it's Just,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: uh it's good to good to think back to those, times,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: man that's for. Sure so let's get into the ring.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Here LIKE i, said we got a variety of stuff
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: to talk. About we'll lead with the THE pbc. Card,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Obviously fandora had a pretty easy. NIGHT i did like his, job,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Though i'll say that because sometimes he comes forward and
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: it's just a little too out of control where he
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: gets not that he didn't get hit with some overhand,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: left BUT i did like his. Job and there was
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: that that timeframe where he was kind of where it
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: was kind of like what fight was? That was that
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: The garcia fight that he was? BOXING i think it
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: was The garcia, Fight, Yeah, Garcia and it was, like,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: well that's not gonna work eat that was that.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: WAS i didn't like that fight for, Him, yeah BUT
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: i do.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Like him at least using fundamentals more when he comes,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: forward because that's ultimately what he wants to, do you
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i. Mean so it, was you, know pretty easy.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Night we'll talk about The Xander daias potential fight that
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: seems like it's gonna happen unless the unification pops. In
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: but what'd you think of the other two? Fights you,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: know The ramos fight was, uh it was, entertaining but one.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Sided and then you Know Elijah garcia was getting clocked
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: left and right in that. Fight what did you think
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: of the those two underguard?
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: Fights, well With, GARCIA i gotta SAY i missed a couple,
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: Arounds SO i don't want to give my own opinion
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: on the. Scoring AND i usually don't go on, this
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: but you have to say it on this, one and you,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: know saw the knockdown and. EVERYTHING i didn't see anybody
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: that scored the fight For. Garcia, YEAH i mean, EITHER
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: i mean you don't usually get, that like whether there's just.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: NOBODY i mean this, one this, one there was. Nobody,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: yeah there was nobody out there Saying garcia. Won AND
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: i HAD i admittedly had Liked garcia a. LOT i
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: THINK i knew what they were trying to do here
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: was you, know he he had that that upset loss
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: to you know a, boxer you, Know, davis and THEY
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: i think they, thought, well you, know we'll have them
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: try to learn and remedy some of that Against garchet
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: and That i'll make an. Opponent it was like a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: minus six hundred favorite though, STILL i, mean everybody on
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: the card was a huge, favorite Including. GARCIA i FIGURED
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: pbc was just hoping one of those fights was surprised,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: competitive and they got it with The garcia. Garceety they
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: weren't expecting, it probably hoping that for it to be that,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: competitive but you, know, major you, Know garcia is still very,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: young but for how highly he was, regarded and then
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: to have another fight with a boxer where he had
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: that kind of trouble and even Though gauchet Knocked zoo
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: down and he Hurt, lubin he's not a. Puncher he's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: still not a puncher and he doesn't get the KOs.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: And he was letting his hands, go which kind of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: tells you what's coming back at.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Him, yeah very troubling For, garcia and wasn't it near
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: as bad of course For, Ramos but you, know he
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: was in with light, opposition a, substitute AND i think
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: for him even letting that guy hang around that. Long
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: we've been talking about, it and it's it's something you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: kind of just find yourself talking about with him more
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: that he doesn't seem to be as good of a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: puncher as we might have thought when he was first
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: coming up and. Starting that seems like it's going to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: start being a bit of a problem for him because you,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: know we've said it a few, times but he couldn't
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: Get lubin out of, there who doesn't have the greatest
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: chin lost on the, cards even THOUGH i thought it
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: was a bad, decision but you, know then these lesser,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: opponents he's not blowing them right out of. There i'm
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: kind of, disappointed, frankly as you can, Tell, like AND
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: i was thinking ABOUT i think it was you AND
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: i saying, It, chris hard to believe because these years
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: are flying, by but this is actually something. Disappointing like
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: that looked good for a, while and it fits with
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: two of the guys we Saw Saturday. Night you, know
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: a couple of years, ago you, KNOW pbc picked Up
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: Andy ruiz and they had Like Andy ruiz at, heavyweight
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: and then you Had Hesus ramos coming, up and you
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: Got Elijah garcia and you're, like, hey you know this Has,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: American Mexican american. Sensibilities you, KNOW, pbc you, know focusing
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: on THE us, Market american sensibilities that they might be
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: able to do something here with these three. Guys then
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: you got you, Know Andy ruiz just doesn't fight you,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: KNOW i mean like, FREQUENTLY i mean like not when
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: he's in, there but so you, know he's just not,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: active not.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Disciplined and, yeah, right and then you know it goes with.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: Him Elijah garcia was looking good and now he's had some,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: troubles And Haycus ramos is still, there he's legit top,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: ten but he's maybe not looking as good as we.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Thought and then outside of the in the ring, part
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: we have the add of the ring part where now
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: they've fallen into that not getting. Exposure you, know you're
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: ON Pbc undercards or the the YouTube pre limb and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: it's just not it's just not consistent exposure where you
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: could build these guys and you, know you're the other
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: promotions you're having you, know similar. Problems BUT i was
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: thinking of you AND i talking a few years, back
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: and that looked like it might have some promise and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: now a few years later it's not really playing out
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: like you you would have hoped that was that was
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: one AVENUE pbc had that looked like they could have
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: they could have built something up.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: There, yeah do you think that they should have Let
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Elijah garcie a? Fight maybe at a similar, level but just,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: stylistically not that for like a fight or two and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: see if he made some, improvements or do you, think,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: hey let's get him in, there like you, KNOW i don't,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: know because he, looked like you, said it's almost like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: they moved. Him this happens with some young fighters at
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: times where you have these you, know you're nineteen and you're,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: twenty and you look damn, good right and you're, like
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: that guy just went the distance with that guy and
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: he took him, out you, know and so it seemed
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: like not that they moved him crazy because they. Didn't
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: they didn't step them up to the highest. Point but
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: do you think that maybe just a couple more fights
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: at this level but stylistically not that type of fighter
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: would have helped or do you, think, WELL i, mean
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: what's the, Point, like if you can't beat this, guy
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna probably be an undercard fighter fighting stylistic,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: fights just you, know for.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Entertainment, well maybe what the thing to do would have
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: been looking, back because you, Know garchet has been a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: lot of boring fights. Too now this didn't turn out that,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: way but he has. Been maybe maybe the thing to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: do would have, been especially because you were on Regular.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Amazon actually thinking out, loud it probably was the thing to,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: do you. Know you, know maybe if you wanted to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: have him test himself against the grouchet because of the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: style and see if he can overcome. That maybe in
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: a lesser, spot but here you're on the free the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: Free amazon.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Exposure.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Opportunities why not put him in a real, brawl you,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: know find find somebody that that is gonna is gonna
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: brawl with, him even though he's a, puncher.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Because that's probably what they're gonna do with him. Now,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: yeah they'll probably do it.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: Now but that's the problem when you have the misstep
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: is you lose momentum and people aren't as interested a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: lot of. Times and, this let's face, it this was
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: not the greatest. Card so you, can in hindsight say
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: maybe that wasn't a good, Move like maybe this should
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: have Been Elijah garcia in a. Brawl, yeah somebody's gonna
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: punch it out with, him you, know ramost that they
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: were kind of trying to do, That i'm sure With
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: salgado Because salgado is real. Sturdy, yeah not gonna, win
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: but he's very sturdy and he does come. Forward so
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: you're gonna get at least usually a pretty entertaining fight with.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: HIM i think they had that in mind, there but
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: still you had to get a substitute and Then. Fondora you, Know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: booker he just didn't really look like he should have
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: been in. There WHAT i liked About fondora is you,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: know when when he really gets leverage on that upper
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: cut because of his height at that, weight it's it's
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: a it's a devastating, punch that's very, unique and he
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: and he, did he did get him started going out
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: of there with. That SO i like seeing. That but
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: what was kind of the letdown is you did feel
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: like after, watching even THOUGH i Liked fondora a, lot
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: you were kind of like AND i saw a lot
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: of fans to be taken out the same. Way you,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: know it just wasn't a good enough opponent to get
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: you excited about. Anything so it wasn't for a Free amazon.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: Opportunity this reminded, me and Again i'll criticize all the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: promotions on different, things but it was kind of LIKE
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: pbc missing opportunities like they missed On. Fox you, know
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: you're on Regular Amazon, prime not the pay per view
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: like you know you gotta you gotta come, Up you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: gotta come up with, something you, know and i've you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: see him try to explain, it and other promotions will
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: apply it to, like, well you know when we're on
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: REGULAR tv that that's got to be our low level
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: because of the, costs you, know we can't afford. Much
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: but it's like the whole idea is the opposite of
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: what it should, be like your your best fight should
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: be when the most people are going to see. Them
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: like that's where boxing. Model boxing model is completely, Broken
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: like like what entertainment model is? That like this is
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: our best so we want to make. Nobody we want
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: to have as few people as possible see, it, right
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: but this is our opportunity to get a lot of.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: Eyeballs we're going to put our worst product out here.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: NOW i mean, no you wouldn't run any other kind
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: of business like, that.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Especially the main. EVENT i did think the like from
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: an entertainment look at. IT i did think the two
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: fights were, entertaining one, sided that, one but especially the main,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: event that is the main, event you, know like you,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Said AND i do think now that you see it
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: in the, ring especially going into, it you weren't thinking much,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Anyway but, yeah you could see he didn't really belong
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: with him beyond a couple overhand lefts. It really he
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: wasn't really doing. Much and then that also creates a
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: problem for THE a side because it's, like, well this
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: guy's just in, here like NOW i got to try
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: and take him out and Maybe i'll look back doing.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: It you, know that didn't, happen but it could.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: Of you, know it could, have right at Least fundora
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: got him out of. There AND i, LIKE i Like
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: fundora a. Lot he's an entertaining character and he's so
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: unique with what he brings to the ring with that,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: height you, know had one hundred and fifty four. Pounds
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: SO i like him AND i GET i get the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: idea of you, Know fondora is a guy we want to.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: Feature i'm totally good with, that but you, KNOW i
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: just don't, like like that's to me where the and you,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: KNOW i talked about it as it, happened and it
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: turned out to be, True like they just missed too
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: many opportunities On, fox you know when they had. THAT i,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: mean and you, know it's too. Bad one of the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: cards at the end was a great card with you,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: know surprisingly, so but it was like when you had
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: Like charlo fight and Cor abev and A jagba And
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: calagie and, Yeah baldarris you, know who was a top
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: prospect at the, time got knocked out on. THERE i
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: mean like that was that was like the best card
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: of the year On. Fox but he didn't have enough of.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: That you had too many ones that were. Terrible, uh
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: and like this is another, one like you, know just you, know,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: hey this was Your amazon prime. SHOT i would HAVE
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: i would have liked to see a better effort because
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: you know they have they haven't been running them on
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: uh they're Free.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Amazon, yeah just just a better. Opponent like you, Said
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: i'll say this With, Fox i'd say POST covid it
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: fell apart prior to that first year and. Changed they
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: were for the most part doing. It BUT i do
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: think you could see the budget fall apart POST covid, too,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: right you. Could you could clearly see. It it, was you,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: know and then the whole thing fell.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: Apart, YEAH i mean you, heard you had heard and
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: you Know Jay rock on there that was as good
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: a fight as you'll.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: See, well And charlo had like three or four fights
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: on there, too they had Both harrison Fights, harrison they
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of good. Fights, yeah but, yeah it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: the but clearly there was an issue AFTER covid with
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: the budget because it. Fell it fell on its, face
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: no doubt about.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: It, yeah there still seems to be something going on like.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: THAT i, mean THERE'S i don't know if it's. CREDIBLE
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: i have no. IDEA i haven't Heard. Espinosa you AND
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: i both like listen to him kind of commit either
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: way on. That you, know there's some rumors that they're
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: actually like on a time by on These Amazon prime
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: when when it's not on pay per. VIEW i don't
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: know if that's true or. Not i'm not saying it's,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: true but there's a it's a, rumor AND i haven't
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: heard it completely. DENIED i haven't heard it completely denied.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: Either so it's a, thought like you, know if it
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: is a time by the, budget that's that's that's a rough.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: Budget you, know you're if you're buying time to be
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: on there and you got to pay the.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Fighters is it you think that's coming from a credible, source, Though,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: NO i haven't heard.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: It Like i'll always, say if it's, INCREDIBLE i haven't
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: seen it from credible. Source i've seen it thrown around out,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: there So i'm not saying it's, true BUT i haven't
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: seen it like denied straight out.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Either So i'm keeping it BECAUSE i can. Understand like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: The fandora. Thing you, know he fought last, year he got,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: hurt so he had to be out for a little.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Bit then The terrence conference stuff was getting a little mixed.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Up then The spence fight looked like it was gonna,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: happen and so that's. Cool you come back against an okay, fighter,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: fine but it just. Wasn't, yeah it wasn't because because
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: he has multiple fights here that are right there for him.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Now SO i, understand, Like, okay he's been out for ten,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: months get him. Back but you, know it is the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: like we talk about at least be, solid because you
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: know these guys aren't fighting. Enough at least be solid
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: and not not a guy who you, know it didn't
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: look good before and then when he see him in the,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: ring it just just didn't look. Good BUT i will
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: say this About Hazus, RAMOS i still think that there's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: enough there because he does like he he's a little more,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: responsible he keeps a nice, guard he does have a good,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: job he does know when to go to, body does
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: have good hand, Speed but it does seem like for
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: quite some time, now the game plan has been a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: little bit more. Contained, yeah and in some, ways, yeah that's.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Good it can be good in certain, fights that's for.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Sure but it's it's like they used the first handful
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: of rounds to slowly break a guy, down but it.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Doesn't it doesn't seem like he's letting as many combos
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: go until later in the. Fight So i'm still Not
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: i'm not as down on him as, you but clearly
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: there was a game plan thing that they're working, on
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: AND i Don't it's almost like you have to have
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: the right opponent for it to look all good, together
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: but you can't really rely on. That but BUT i
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: STILL i still think he has enough pop in, there you,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: know especially if someone's gonna come at. Him.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah you do see it more with him when somebody
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: comes at.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Him.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah So i'm not totally down on him or. Anything you,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Know i've liked him a lot in the, past BUT
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: i just in recent, Fights i'd like to see more power.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Out, yeah and that's whether he just doesn't have it
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: as much as we thought or it's a combination of
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: the game plan where he's being more, responsible because you
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: could clearly see. That but, YEAH i don't, know we'll.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: SEE i, mean he's in the right, division he's what
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: twenty four, NOW i, think.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: Well like you, said when he when he Thought spencer
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: And spencer decided to come at, him he caught him
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: with a real big shot. EARLY i mean that was
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: that was a real good. Shot so you, know there
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: was an example when somebody came at, him and you,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: know there have been some fights where guys were boxing
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: them And ramos was clearly winning. It but, yeah you
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: didn't see you didn't see the, power the power quite
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: quite As.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't step on the gas as much, either but.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: Like he didn't Even grosario was in there with him.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Late you, know was a perfect example fight of.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: It, Yeah I'm i'm not rolling them. Out i'm not
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: even Counting garcia Because i've liked both of them in the.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: Past but you, Know garcia struggled, Again ramos isn't. Struggling
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: But i'd just like to see a little little more.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: Power BUT i did like fund or you, know get people.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Out of there with the.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Uppercuts, yeah but you know it's not JUST pbc like top.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: Rank you, know they're losing a deal. Anyway but they're
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: talking like Today de Los santo's Fighting Key Sean. Davis you,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: know really you got to even do better than.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: That you just you just.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: Do it's it's not they're not it's just not. Good
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: it's just not good enough, stuff you. Know and and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: when when these guys are have the opportunities with.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: The exposure, stylistically that could that could be kind of
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: weird on The Davis so the W bo did you?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Know of course it's funny who when when they go
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: right To amando like the second of fight's, done and
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: then other times it's, like oh The, Mando oh, yeah
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: we'll get.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: To, it you.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Know but either, way they did call it and It's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Xander zaiaz and you, know looking at the fine, print
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: the only way you get out of it is if it's,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: uh you, know a. UNIFICATION i, mean they they're talking late.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Summer if they could come back late Summer Xanders, aias
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: what would you think about that? Fight it would be
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it would be.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: Interesting and this is no criticism OF pbc to, me
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: because you, KNOW i don't think the alphabet seriously like you,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: SAID i mean that they're they're they're mandating this Because
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: ziaz fights for top. RANK i, mean you, know, yes
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: that's all that's, about not only, Right So i'm not
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: like gonna be critical at, all like some fans OF
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: pbc In Front. Dora it's just gonna be simply a
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: plain old do they feel like Fighting zai is or?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: Not if they don't feel Like zaia, is they're not
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: going to worry about the wbu bo. Alphabet AND i
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: AND i would. Myself everybody's making, like, oh this is
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: gonna be an. AUTOMATIC i would, think you.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Know he's got two belts so he can drop one her.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: If I'M pbc Or Front, door and, Yeah i'm just
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: gonna drop you, Know i'm just going to drop that
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: IF i don't feel it doesn't mean he can't beat.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: Him it's just, again it's a top rank, thing like
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: do you feel like right, Exactly so like if PBC's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: got something better, planned you're gonna do. THAT i, mean
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: The zoo rematch is still out. There apparently THEY'RE i.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: SAW i think this was a Credible australian THING i,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: saw and it makes sense because he just bought over.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: THERE i guess they're talking that If zoo wins Against,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: spencer he's gonna Fight. Thurman, Yeah july. Sixth, okay they a,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: date literally a.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Date. YEAH i would think that will, happen just because
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: they were gonna you, know, yeah SO.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: I they don't want to go right To fundora for whatever,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: reason maybe because style, Matchup BUT i would FIGURE pbc
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: is gonna AND i don't blame him one. Bit they're
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: gonna they're gonna do With fundora or whatever they were gonna.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: Do and if it's Not, ZIONS i don't think they're
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: gonna detour To zias like everybody was saying the last
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: couple of, days like oh he'll be Fighting Zaias Now i'm, thinking.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Like no, out hang.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: On you, know the the top rank can have THE
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: wbo do whatever they want THE. Wbo and you know
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 7: the fact that this was such a quick, fight you,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: know to go In august or Late july and then
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: still be able to maybe get.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Something late or. Early you, know maybe they will think
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: about it that. WAY i don't, know BUT i just hope. That.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Uh the THING i like most about that fight is
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: it's a top ten. Fight it's good or, whatever BUT
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: i would like him the fact that he come back
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: In august or something that is like that actually does
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: it for me, too where you're, like, okay solid fight
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: and he's coming. Back, okay you know that that actually is.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Appealing so but like you, said we'll see if they
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: if he can get, more if he can get double
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: or triple the money and fight a better. Opponent you,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Know i'm not gonna, complain you, know that's for. Sure but,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: yeah fifty. Four they you, know they have Access they
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: either have a bunch of fighters or they have access to.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Fighters and, obviously you, Know lubin has a fight coming,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: up and so you never, know maybe he'll uh maybe
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: that would be. IT i don't, know we'll. See So
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: cambosas looks like he was just kind of trying to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: stay busy or tune back up to be able to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Fight Richardson. Hitchins that's what this fight.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: Was that's another fight nobody nobody.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Wants, yeah and it goes to. That people love to
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: talk about THE iba like it's, great but it's, like
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: how the hell why is he ranked? There what would
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: he be doing ranked?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: There you, Know cambosas has had six rounds against you,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: know ta Female, lopez and that's been, it, right we
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: can't say it now he did have those, rounds but
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: that has been.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: It so it was like twenty four and oh against
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: hany you, know like how many rounds that he? WINNING
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: i don't. REMEMBER i don't think.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: Many you, know it got stopped by Low, machenko who's you,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: know obviously all older at this. Point hasn't even it's just,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: nobody you, know nobody wants to See hitchins Fight. Campo
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: so this is the kind of crap that they just
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: seem like to, me they're they're lining up a lot
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: of this, crap and it's like for all the Things
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: i've been, saying it's just you, know the sports and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: sports and bad shape with.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: It it just it just is. Well and the funny
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: thing is is like they tried to have some guy
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: just you, know it was a late, filling but this
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: guy actually fought him pretty damn. Tough, actually oh, yeah
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: rounds Where i'm, like oh a, second you know it
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: was actually a good scrap, randomly but that it wasn't
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a good, scrap you.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: KNOW i, MEAN i would have liked to see, him
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: you know with top rank, connection like you, know Let
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: cambosos be food for abdollamation or something like.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: THAT i, mean and he probably wouldn't want to do,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: that you, know, RIGHT i.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: Mean i'll watch that ON, espn you, know but.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: You, know you you could say that'd be a good
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: name for, him, Right but is it really a name For?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Hitchens like what what does that really does that? Bring?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: Enough not really right because because updollamation is going to
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: get you out at her and which hit With, Hitchens
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: that's not something that's always going to happen. Either so,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: yeah fight fight where you don't see him, losing but
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: it might not be. Entertaining, yeah, yeah he. May he
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: may just dominate it and out box him for twelve
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: and it might be a dull.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Fight, yeah did you what other fights did you? See
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: did you See Lester martinez or that Her Nandez luciro
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Or Sky Sky nicholson And Tierra brown just.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: A, nicolson just A. NICHOLSON i mean it's nothing like
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: personal against, her but her style you, know has been top.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Three skill, wise Like eddie was, saying she's just.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: Not entertaining and she doesn't put any any pop on. Anybody. Whatsoever,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: yeah and you, know now she's got an alphabet bell and,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: like for that, REASON i was happy to see her
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: take THE. L i MEAN i just, Was i'm, like
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: AND i don't Want, sky you, KNOW i, mean she's she's,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: personable you, know she's got a good, story but but
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: in the, ring she's just she's just a dull. FIGHTER i,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: mean she just. IS i, mean you, know come, on
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: she's just no. Pop she doesn't try to use any.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: Pop and and you, know, yeah when she took THE,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: L i was just, like, good can we not see
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: her in the main any main events or be built
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: up because because of it's her. Style that's just What i'm.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: Saying like her styles just for, me you, know JUST
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: i MEAN i just watching her come, UP i just you,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: know couldn't you, know just just the style was just
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: just it's just. TERRIBLE i just don't look forward to
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: watching her fight for that. Reason and so when she
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: picked up the split decision, LOSS i was, Like, okay
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: maybe we can bump her down a. Level let's not
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: this is WHERE i hate immediate. Rematches i'm, like let's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: not have an immediate.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Rematch you, know that is, uh that's a great. Point
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: that's a really great point because we don't need, it
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: that's for. Sure you, KNOW i gotta, admit like a
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: promoter is gonna promote. It it is what it. Is you,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: know she's not anywhere near a top ten skill you,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: know in the, world like he was, saying but it's
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: not even that it was. Her she always kept Pressing,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: serrano and to, ME i was, like come, on, dude
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: he would eat you. Up like it's just it's just,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: facts you, Know and when you, like you, Know tierra
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: was able to, do and then you add what a man,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: does like come on the, punch, rate the. Volume and
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: because she has, shop, YEAH i mean she has.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: Pop she's one of the only women that with the
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: disadvantage of the two minute rounds can put put her
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: put some herd on. YOU i thought the same, thing
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: like they're they're opposite fighters like, that you know in
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: the women's. GAME i, Mean serrano has pop that can
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: hurt you in a two minute, round and and And
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: Sky nicholson has like the least pop in the women's.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Women's, game, RIGHT i MEAN i always thought of The
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Raging bowl movie where he said he ain't pretty no.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: More you, know he always you're not gonna be pretty.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Anymore i'll tell you. That you don't want to mess With. Serrano.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no that was not a good direction for her to,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: look and it's backed up by the. Fact doesn't mean
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: we know what's going to, happened BUT i do see
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: she's a slight favorite Over tailor for the third, fight
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: so you, know that shows the kind of respect she
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: gets like, that ALTHOUGH i did think she won the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: first two.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Fights, yeah that's the. Thing They're they're gonna give her this.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: One then they'll do a. Fourth. Yeah, yeah there's the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: one That.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: Tailor there's will be the one like you know, boxing
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: Like tailor actually somehow Hustles or they give it.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: To you and Then taylor and be, like well, sono
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: you know that is. Boxing and then they'll do one In, december, Right.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: YEAH i do love that that's On. Netflix. THOUGH i love.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: THAT i, mean and that is that was one of
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: the the only good boxing Decisions i've seen in recent. Years,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: like if you're gonna a third, fight you make sure
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: it gets. Exposed they did.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: It it's on that they already got the. Exposure now
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: they can lean right into, it you, know and come
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: right back on the same. Platform and there is a
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: fairly strong rumor now it's just a, rumor, okay that
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: cry for And canelo potentially On.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: Netflix, yeah that's coming out of credible, sources, right coming
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: out of credible AND i.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Last WEEK i, said, hey you, know we we talked
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: about this, before about The Jake paul thing and. Fight
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Jake paul didn't go To. Crawford but so if you
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: didn't do, THAT i think it, missed took a. Misstep,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: however if you turn right around and In september you
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: give Us, netflix, yes, okay Then i'll Then i'll shut.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Up you shut me. Up you, know, NO i Agree
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: canelo Fights crawford On.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: Netflix i'm Gonna i'm gonna look at it differently exactly
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: then then Canelos, then to, Me canelo is conscious of
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: that us sensibilities That i've sometimes, SAID i don't know
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: if he doesn't get it or doesn't.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Care doesn't. CARE i think he doesn't.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: CARE i always lean towards that he doesn't.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Care but.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: Because you know HE i think he's a pretty smart
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: guy like. That, yeah, yeah just to care like, That
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: i'm leaning towards that he didn't.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Care but, yeah and, honestly he's been paid so handsomely
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: for so, Long like upfront money too that you know
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: ten years ago wasn't available upfront unless Your mayweather pacyat
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: or something that's. It so you, KNOW i guess that
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: plays into it, too where he's, like you know, what either,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Way i'm going to be making my.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: Money so you Fight crawford On. Netflix that'll take care
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: of THE us sensibility and then.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Some, yeah that would especially now that they got their
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: stuff together and it's not gonna be all choppy and
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: stuff like, That like the fact that they got THE
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: nfl on there now it was, like, okay we're this
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: was good to. Go we're. Good i'll trust it, Now
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: so that would be. Phenomenal that would be. Great, well
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: did you see Uh Lester martinez on pro box.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: That he was thinking of watching, it BUT i did
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: not watching a pro box card too much going on
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: on the. Weekend, yeah what do you what do you?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Think have you seen much of? Him what do you
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: think of? Him he looked good in the, Fight, YEAH i.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: HAVE i haven't seen him that. MUCH i haven't seen
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: him that much, yet BUT i DIDN'T i didn't see
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: the Pro box Card.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Saturday but, Yeah james gave him something to think about
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: early a little. Bit but then you, know he got messed.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Up his legs were, gone and That, Hernandez i'll tell
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: you That Hernandez lucero Or, lucio that's actually worth a.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Watch that was a good. Fight that was a good.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Fight if you're bored or. Whatever at some, POINT i
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: know you, said you're really.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: Busy so, yeah that was part of, it because you,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: KNOW i had mixed. EMOTIONS i wasn't necessarily. DOWN i
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: like the idea of pro box during the, week but
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: THEN i could see where they were figuring, out what
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: if we have a spot on A saturday for a
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: card that works for, Us we're gonna do.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: IT i can do a lot of THE us stuff
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: went To, saudi so they're, like, hey why, not, right
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be at, night they'll be at, day you know.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: EXACTLY i agree though that that that, midweek Even thursday,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: NIGHT i loved. It uh you, KNOW i thought that was.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Prime and then it separated itself, too you, know from the,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: pack and it will be you, KNOW i didn't hear
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: many people talking about it that, night you, know, Unfortunately so,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: yeah it does get in. Obviously right, now college basketball
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: is what it's all about right. Now so, yeah that
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: that's so this weekend we have Ze pada And farmer
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: and Uh mayor And Sandy, ryan both of them. Rematches
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: mikayla was in a bunch of tight fights prior and
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: she was on the short end and then you, know
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: she GOT i thought she got this win, anyway but
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: it was a competitive, fight, yes and Then farmer outperformed Against.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Zapata for, ME i was like, wow BECAUSE i remember
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: saying the fight before. IT i remember, saying, Wow, okay
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: maybe he has more THAN i thought, left BUT i
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: still under undervalued him going into The beta fight and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: maybe as the paid that had you, Know shakhor on
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: his mind or. Something but, uh but he got caught
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: up in a fight and it was he was getting
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: countered and in all. That so BUT i do thinks
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: They pata will tighten up in this. REMATCH i think
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: it'll be, competitive BUT i think second half MAYBE i
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: think he'll just land the bigger. Shots but you, know
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: The Sandy Ryan, MAYER i just Think mayor's just more, experienced,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: uh with more, fights because Because Sandy ryan's you, know
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: in many fights but she has spot for all the.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Opponents what do you what are your thoughts on these?
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Rematches was?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: SHOT i was shocked At farmer Gave zapata a tough
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: fight in the first. FIGHT i haven't been quite as
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: high on The pata as a lot of. PEOPLE i,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: MEAN i think he's, good But i'm not quite as
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: high on him as a lot of. People BUT i
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: wasn't expecting far to give him a tough. FIGHT i
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: Thought farmers long long past his. Day that shocked. Me
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: Now i'm looking at the REMATCH i. SAW i THINK
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: i saw as a pod of like a minus six
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: hundred favorite or something like. That. Check so you, know
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: the odds makers aren't thinking that that's gonna happen. Again
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: and you, know even Though farmers a boxer And zapeidas
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: a come forward kind of. Guy you, know The painda
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: has some level of skill and his volume is real.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: Good so like it doesn't really look to me even
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: even Though farmer is a, boxer but he has no
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: pop like. That it it should have been a tough
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: fight the first time. Around it, was but LIKE i
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: don't even though you Know farmers a, BOXER i don't
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: was the paid of. Style he hadn't had problems in the. Past,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: really LIKE i don't another As i'm, SAYING i. DON'T
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: i don't see why it should be for him that
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: hard of a. Style So i'm with. YOU i would
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: think he gets together this time and doesn't have any.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Trouble that's When i'm. Anticipating i'd be surprised if he.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: Does But i'm gonna look at. It don't want a discredit.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: Farmer i'd give him credit for coming to fight and
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: when nobody expecting, it coming up with that kind of.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: Effort that's what his. Stands we love to. SEE i
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: give him all the credit in the world for. That
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: that was a, Shocker BUT i don't see it happening
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: again this. Time SO i gotta go with the odds
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: makers and just, think you, know maybe maybe he's A
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: paddy even gets a late stoppage in this one or.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: Something that's What i'm. Thinking like A tko fan duel
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: has him plus four sixty DraftKings plus four twenty. FIVE
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: i see a plus four. Fifty so, yeah you're. Right
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: they don't, uh they don't think. It they think it's
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: A, lot a lot.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Lighter whereas The, mayor, Saydy, ryan that's. Tight guy is
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: minus one ten apiece miyas one fifteen minus one.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: Twelve they got that like true even. Money and that
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: first fight was. ENTERTAINING i liked it a, lot SO
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: i like this one a lot in terms of entertainment.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: Value the first fight was real. GOOD i did Think
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: mayor did enough to win the first. Fight she had
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: lost those couple of close ones and in big fights
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: and WHERE i thought she could have gotten the nod
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: AND i thought She this was, tight BUT i thought
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: she deserved. IT i thought it was a fair, decision
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: real good. FIGHT i kind of like her. AGAIN i
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: thought she'd pulled the upset the first time and it was,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: tight BUT i thought she won. IT i would see
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: it probably playing out pretty. Similarly BUT i think that's
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: good money for he then, really, YEAH i Think mayor's good.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: Enough i'm, wondering like you know a lot of. It
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: i'm More i'm wondering a little bit out of the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: ring part, Too like you know a lot of top
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: rank like you And i'll say we you know THERE espn.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: Thing it's been hard to see the plan they have
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: Had mayor get some good, exposure but then she was
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: over there fighting on you, know match, room his own,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: cards like they were letting her do. It but like
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: and then she's, back and so you had that stop
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: and start like this is a good even money. Fight
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: it was real. Entertaining But i'm like curious out of the,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: Ring like even though we're nearing the end of the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: top ranked, deal, like Did mayor ever take? Hold like
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: in terms of, ratings you know WHAT i? Mean, like you,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: know she's got some. Exposure there's a lot of these
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: people top ranks used haven't really now they still have
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: built up more eyeballs than other, fighters they have more
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: value like, that but they haven't become like the stars.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: From the right right there it, was you, know taking
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: that next step right a real ticket seller or being
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: a GREAT b side.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: Exactly that just keeps not. Happening So i'm kind of,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: curious like what will the ratings, be you, know like
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: we're nearing the end of the steal And Mikaela mayer's
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: got some, exposure so, like you, know what what can
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: she draw from a rating in a good fight.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: And The elite eight will be going? On well maybe
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: not by that time at. NIGHT i don't.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: Know i'm not sure if it actually. Right that does hurt. It,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: Man i'll tell you that you reminded me that was years.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: Back but because the fight was so, Good lipponetts Thought
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: peterson as counter programming and it was a great, fight
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: and it was.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Right it was right.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: Up, YEAH i think it WAS fs. One it was
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: right up against THE NCAAs and it got a really
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: bad rating and the fight was, great AND i thought,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: that you, KNOW i knew why they did, it SO
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: i didn't blame him for doing.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: It but it just, that.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: Man THE ncaa tournament in THE us is second only
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: to The Super bowl in sports event drawing, Eyeball so
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: you can get wiped out by AN.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Ncaa, yeah and the first weekend is the biggest rating
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: Three see there you. Go that's interesting BECAUSE i like
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: repeating this stack because it surprised me WHEN i first.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: Read it's a team the Stat but it's it's true
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: like you always think with THE ncaa, tournament, like, well
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: it's it's about like when the The cinderella sleeper the. Underdog,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: well if you look at the all time, ratings it's
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: when the heavy when the heavyweights, collide that is what
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: the ratings go through the, Roof like what if and.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: They still haven't touched that That Larry bird Metch johnson
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: touch that, right like that's all about itself, chilling.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: Like it's it's not we feel, like you, know it's
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: like When kentucky When kentucky blue, bloods it's the Blue
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: bloods When kentuck Like, duke the ratings are.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Through the, roof like so, Yeah i'm hearing all this.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: Stuff if this it. Discontinues first of, all two years,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: ago we had, uh we had Uh Florida atlantic in
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: the final, four, right, okay calm. Down we Had San
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Diego state in the Final just calm down a little bit.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: For what Two.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: You, Know it's kind of like THE. Nba you, know
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: people say they don't they don't like repeats and all.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: That oh, yeah that's bullshit they do because look at the.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Ratings when when a, team even like The, celtics if
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: they make it this year and they have a chance
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: to repeat and that team is stopping, them that creates
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: something exactly, yep. Exactly and then if they win it
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: and Then denver gets back in there and they beat,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: them and all of a sudden you got a, river you,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: know and that's it's just so. Funny but, yeah it's
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: they have a bunch of blue bloods.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: Left well that's WHAT i was kind of, thinking is,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: like like you, said people they don't do what they
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: say they. Do so with all the blue bloods and
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: these big schools, left the most big schools ever left
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: in the sweet, Sixteen, yeah the ratings could be extremely.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: High that's kind of what we're getting, at is like
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: you could really get destroyed as counter programming with all
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: these you, know well known basketball schools still.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Left, yeah AND i did my basketball show last night
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people were blaming this and blaming.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: That but, honestly this was conference realignment Because arizona Was pack,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Twelve houston was AC r, right and THEN byu was two.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Different they were in The Mountain, west in The West,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: coast so you'd have your normal seven proferences in. It
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: normally that that's how it would have played. Out, well
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: that's not it's because they want to blame. Transferport they
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: want to blame and allow on. This it's, like, well
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: those things. Existed the, transferport for, one existed much earlier
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: in college basketball because if a coach. Left they most
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: of them could transfer and play right, away you. Know
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: now THE ncaa would block some guys, randomly you. KNOW
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: i remember The minnesota had a guy that was ready to,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: go and they blocked him, randomly you. Know but, overall
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: you could actually transfer and play a lot more in
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: basketball before it became an official rule to be able
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: to do. It but, yeah it came down, to, actually
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: this one is conference alignment because there would normally be
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: seven different conferences in the sweet, sixteen six or seven at,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: least and that that's actually what's blocking how it would
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: look because those three teams would normally be outside the top,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: four top, five back. Twelve so but, yeah so yeah it.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Is it's gonna be you. KNOW i, mean, yeah it's
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be. Interesting it's gonna be. Interesting but so, okay
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: so so you got you Got. MARY i just Think
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: mayor's uh just more. Versatile she can fight on the,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: inside she could, box you can kind of do what
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: you need to do to win the. Fight AND i
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: think that's what it's gonna come down.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: To, Yeah AND i always felt, like again for the women's,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: game your you're handicapped with the shorter rounds so she
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: doesn't get the. KOs BUT i thought her pops, decent you,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: know like the. Activity, yeah with the you, know she's
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: got pretty good leverage on her punches and she, throws
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: so you know she can. Sting she can sting. You
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: now you're going to feel, it you, know when she hits.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: You SO i give her a slight, edge but that
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: should be a good.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Fight, yeah all. Right so we did get a little
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: bit of information about the t K O Turkey league
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: and stuff like, that or you, know they say it's a,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: league but then it's not a, League, john but they
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: said it's a, league you, know so it's kind of
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: kind of you, know we still got to figure out
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: what it's going to. Be but there was a there
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: was information coming out about the the, ratings the, rankings
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: i should, say and the pay, scale and there wasn't
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: a bunch of pushback from. It SO i think it's
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: probably in the. Realm and then also if you look
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: at t K oh YOU, us you, KNOW, ufc like
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: this would be more in the realm with what they'd
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: want to. Do, now, well it sounds like they're paying
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: him ten min they're paying them ten. Million turkey's paying
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: them ten million a year as a feat just be, like,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: HEY i want you to operate it, now and there's
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: not a big risk for. Them it doesn't seem now
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: marketing and all, that of, course and you know a
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: lot of the talk is they're just gonna take that
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: top ranked, deal, Right but the way they structured, it
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: it was kind of, like, so you, know Is turkey
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: gonna buy up continue to buy up more talent and
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: then let This Prospect contender series go on and then
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: bunch them. Together because when you Hear Dana, white he's,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: LIKE i don't plan on working with other, people and
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a. Belt so of course that goes
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: to who's the? Rankings and they're not gonna use The ring.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: Magazine supposedly they're not going to use The Ring, ratings
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: which makes sense because they wouldn't have enough of the
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: people in. It SO i don't, know it's like they had,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: like you, know if you're ranked from you, know, seven
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: five to, ten your pay is. This if you're ranked
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: three to, four your pay is. This AND i do
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: want to know who's gonna do the? Rankings one. Two
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Dana white even said, that you, know they need a
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: lot of scouts and they got to figure this stuff out.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: There they're not that quickly gonna start doing this. Stuff
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: they may be the promoter for That Canelo, crawford but
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: that's just a big, Event.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: SO i don't.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: Know it's it's kind of, like so are they gonna
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: because THE ufc rankings tend to go off. ENTERTAINMENT i,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: mean that's What i've noticed that they go off entertainment
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: because guys that are very, skilled it'll take them seventeen
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: fights and you're, like this guy has lost is you?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Know but, anyway what are your thoughts just off some
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: of the stuff that's come out. Lately we talked about
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit, before but now it is, official it's
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: it's you, know it's coming, In it's it's.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: Here, Basically i'm kind of with what you were alluding.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: TO i feel like there's more informations getting getting out.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: There it's it's becoming more confused and jumbled as to
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: what exactly they're trying to do. HERE i, mean you,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: know the most disappointing THING i heard BECAUSE i want
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 5: something to go on differently with the. Sport if you,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: know we're gonna be open minded about The Turkey ala
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: chic and Whatever Dana white's gonna. Do but but THEN
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: i See turkey alask he couldn't even last as long
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: as LIKE pbc did and LIKE hbo, did ignoring the.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: Alphabets like he got a little tiny pushback from THE
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: wbc and he, said, well we're going to recognize all
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: four of the, belts And i'm.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah was putting out fires out of, nowhere.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: What are you talking?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: About he Knocked canelo on THE wbc belt and then
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: he got a little criticism and he feelings hurt or.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Something and then now he's, like, Well i'm still going
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: to be around for a year or two working with those.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: Guys but then he's saying he's going to put him
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: In alcatras and keep. IT i was, like which one is? It?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Dude at least day to. Come he was completely.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: Disappointed and, then like you, said he's got the, ring
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 5: which would have gave him an opportunity to properly utilize
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 5: the ring rankings and, belt it doesn't seem to have
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: any clue about how to do. That and THEN i
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: think they got everybody. Confused like you, know he starts
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: talking about The Dana WHITE tko thing and he's, involved
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: so as fans and commentators on the sport were immediately
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: making the assumption, like, well this is going to Be
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: Turkey alashk using his cash With Dana ye it is
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: like the front man and buying everybody. Up but, instead
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: like we're getting some indications from Like white that they
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 5: might be like kind of starting from scratch and believe
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: it or, not if somebody was willing to stay with.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: THAT i always thought that was another long term way
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: to reform the. Sport like, SURE i got a Feeling
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: white maybe thinking about, that but but that's a totally
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: different ballgame for. Me that's gonna take years and. Years
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: and WHAT i think it would be like, this like
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 5: when he's talking about like a.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: Development the, best they're gonna fight the, best but they're
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be in my, rink so your best are gonna
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: fight your.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: Best like what Like i'm starting to get, well this
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 5: would be to ME i always saw and some people
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: were saying like a ring city or. SOMETHING i, Thought,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: NO i don't think. THAT i think one thing they
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 5: might have in, mind but this is really long term.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: PROJECT i think those might even be those numbers you're talking,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: About LIKE i always thought there was an opening to
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: do this if somebody was really, patient like AND i
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: think this might be kind of whites talking, about like you,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 5: know like let's TAKE mma you get you, know of
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: course some of these guys have had a FEW mma,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: fights but in terms of their main fighting experience where
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: you're getting them, from like The americans, here these are
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: guys who Are division one wrestlers and things like. That,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 5: okay so the point is, like then they learn THE,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: mma then they're not taking the head shots when they're
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: in college wrestling or high. School so you're preserving yourself
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 5: in that.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Way an the other stuff, too you, know jiu jitsu
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: and all. That you're not taking. Money you may take
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: kicks to the leg.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: Or, whatever but you, know then they learn it and
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 5: then they're they're fighting each, other you, know working their way.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: Up you, know if they're good, enough they get to THE.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: Ufc but LIKE i did think in, boxing there would
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 5: be like if you're patient, enough like here's WHAT i
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: have in, Mind like like let's just pretend they had
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: to deal with THE, espn, Right and this seems real.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: UNCONVENTIONAL i, mean you have to be patient with, it
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: BUT i think it could work like Maybe i'm going
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: to make up something because these guys haven't been that.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 5: Good but let's say we.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Got to twenty. Thirty you, know the big things are gonna,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: happen so you do got some.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: Time so even though not that these guys have been good,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: fighting you, know all the boxers we've, had but let's
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: say they're gonna be patient with. It so let's Say
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: white takes a couple of Former division one football players
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: or something like, that and they go to the. Gym but,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: then here's WHAT i always thought where it was almost
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: like a reality, show, right like where you're gonna they're
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 5: gonna fight each other. TENDER i think ultimately fans only
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: care most of. Them they're not nuanced enough or care,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 5: enough like if the fight's, good like if the guys
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: are if the guys oh and, oh and they're fighting
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: each other and it's and it's an entertaining, brawl that's, Even,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: yeah they're gonna rather watch this than some boring guy
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: in a mismatch in the kind of fights we're used
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: to seeing in regular, boxing so to. Speak like so
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 5: if they do, that and then you get to know
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: these guys and they're all under that umbrella and then
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: they get to where they've got ten twenty fights but
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: they're always fighting each, other but the fights are. Good,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: yeah you have to be real patient with. That BUT
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: i actually do think that could.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Work but it's kind of like A contender series a little. Bit,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: yeah their CONTENT ufc, series.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: But like what you're but like WHAT i think they
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: would be doing that would be better is like what
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: what the contender type series or like what maybe like
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: A Ring city was trying to. Do even though some
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: of those fights were, good you, know if you get
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: the old like we've seen this too much in, boxing
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: where it doesn't, work the fifteen and five guy who's
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: not that great fighting the thirteen and four guy who's
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: not that. GREAT a lot of times those fights are aren't.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: That, good and like you, know you unless you have
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: like really good match, makers you, know like it like
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: small small room, places those fights would be, good but
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: you gotta be damn good at your job to get
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: that fight to.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 6: Back you got to make like if they were, right
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: it's not that they if they really made those matches,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: good but they. Don't so you're thinking like if like THIS,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 6: tko if they would have their own guys and then
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 6: they would be keeping making the best and money fights they,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 6: could and then.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 5: The fan gets conditioned to, like, Oh i'm going to
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: put this. On it's going to be entertaining AND i
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 5: know this. Guy but that's like a long term, project
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 5: like so are you are you doing that or are
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: you just buying everybody?
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Up like.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: Like we're hearing two different, things, like you, know SO
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 5: i don't.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Mind these three deals are going to start running out on,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: you you, know so like and then you with that
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: same money then you, know.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: SO i don't know like where they're, going, like and
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: then they're talking about ring, branding so, like is ring
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: branding going to be with like the fighters were used
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: to now and buying these guys all, up or is
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: it going to be with like being patient with THE,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: tko like developing their own guys over time and just
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 5: trying to have even matchups and keeping it in. HOUSE
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: i think it could be done if you're patient, enough
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 5: and it might be something that would help the. Sport
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: but that's a long term project to.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah the other project would be Just turkey throwing his money,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: around you, know buying scoop it all. Up, yes just
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: buy scoop it all up buying. Everybody it almost looks
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: like in the courtrooms, later right, right, yeah, Exactly and
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: he's got advantage with, that you, Know Saudi, arabia they
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: don't have to file file you, know following A us
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: federal law or anything like. That And i'm not saying
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 5: that's all, good but you, know they can get around
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 5: that that.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Way so, YEAH i don't.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: KNOW i don't know if he's going to do that.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: NOW i don't know exactly what the overall plan is.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: Now so these are the numbers on that boxing scene.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Report and to your, point we've talked about it. Too
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: how the low the lower, level which there's a thousands
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: of those fighters aren't making good money at, all and
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: that is the. Difference you can definitely point TO ufc
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: overall and they short change their. Fighters but as far
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: as the, base you, know it is. Legit so this
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: is for for twenty thousand dollars for a ten round unranked,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: fighter fifty thousand wins ranked by the, company which you,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: know but that's five through ten when ranked three and,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: four one hundred and twenty five, thousand when challenging for
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: the company, championship three hundred and seventy five thousand and
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: when you have the belt and you defend, it it's
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars now just off the.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Rip they could get guys that are champions right now
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: for sure and get in there as long as they're
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: going to be ranked high, enough you. Know but so
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: they definitely, could and there'll be people that go into this,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: thing but it is it is the approach on, that
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: and you, know could they kind of fine tune this
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: as a, development you, know League and at the same,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: time LIKE i was, saying buy up a bunch of,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: stuff so you kind of, overpay over, pay over paying through.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Time you've even seen this with certain. Fighters after the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: time buys went away FOR, pbc they did start to
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: skit have different scales, again you, know because they didn't
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: have as much money to throw. Around SO i don't
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: know if that's the plan and then they joint together
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: in two three, YEARS i don't know It just he's
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: gonna sell, it you, know he, says you, know maybe
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: they'll get that that top ranked, deal because that's what
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are. Saying but, yeah like, okay
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: you get the, deal, well you you, know what are
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: you gonna do with, it, Right That's that's What i'm.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: Wondering and if he thinks that it's just him and
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: he's gonna do some interviews and people are gonna watch,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: it he will Have there'll definitely be A ufc crowd
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: that will support it at the. START i do believe.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: That but you just, wonder and then it goes back
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: to who's doing the freaking rankings? Then and is a
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: GUY i know gonna be ranked seven that can for
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: sure beat the number one guy because he's more? Skillful
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: is that gonna Be is he gonna be stymied from
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: five to ten for two? Years you know WHAT i?
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: Mean that's the only thing that you. Know there's a
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: lot of questions still and it you, know it seems
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: like you, said it's more confusing than. Anything, yeah and confusing.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: Enough box's confusing as it, is, though you, know BUT
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: i kind of THOUGHT i kind of THOUGHT i knew
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 5: what he was gonna, do that he was going to
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 5: just try to buy everybody up and then have to
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: in a white run. It but Now I'm i'm, like,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: no it looks LIKE i always thought there might be
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: an opening for a developmental type, thing but and that
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: seems to be What white's talking. About but that that
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: takes you be the lead.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Promoter FOR pbc, then, Right it just they got still
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of, Talent go get AN espn deal and
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: already have some. Guys then you do your Dem there's something.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: Right it's JUST i don't, know, YEAH i mean the
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: other way would be just buying everybody up and making
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: making them fight each other and making the fights have
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: to be, good and then making a. League, yeah and
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: then you, know it's kind of kind of like a.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 5: League BUT i thought that's originally the WAY i thought
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 5: they'd be doing, it But i'm not sure, Now like you,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: said must they try to have the two tracks one
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: that while they're doing.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: This that's the only WAY i could think it make it,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: work you, know because the other one was that we
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: heard but they Even turkey said and said that was.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: Bullshit but about the top, fifteen so you have top
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: fifteen in every, division well that kind of screws the
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: next thousand, fighters you, Know but if the next thousand
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: fighters go towards, that and then you, KNOW i don't,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: know it's kind of kind of. Weird it's it's it's just, boxing.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: Man this this shit plays out like, This but, YEAH
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: i wish they'd just buy everybody, up to be.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: Honest with, you that's WHAT i was, Thinking, like that's
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: WHAT i was hopeful for the, money we'd get. Something
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: but if he's gonna because we've seen this not, work
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: let's face, it and all the promoters are guilty of. This,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: yeah if you're gonna go to this alphabet syste and
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: the way it's been, going everything just keeps. FADE i,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: mean you, know it's just gonna keep getting worse and.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: Worse so it's not gonna. Work you, know something has
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: to be done.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Differently and then now it you, know it definitely appears
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: more and more that like the dude's got some seriously
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: like not tough skin at, All like come, on, man
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: like this is, boxing, dude you're gonna get a little
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: crisis or jokes or something like right for him to
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: go in and do his own space to a fifteen
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: minute space because he you, know why even tackle all
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: that ship then if you're just gonna back run right.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Back it was just.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: Weird although that may BE i like that AND i
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 5: stand by. It that made me lose. INTEREST i mean
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: it was for, me it was that. EXTREME i lost
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: interest in what he was doing. There So I'm i've
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: temporarily lost. Interest i'll come back to it IF i see.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: Something but if he's just gonna do this four belt
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: arrest and keep going on with all these weight classes
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: and the crummy matchups and, stuff you, Know i'm not.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: INTERESTED i, Mean i'm not interested in going on like.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: That, yeah because and you can see the difference in
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: A saudi card, now in a ring, card you, know
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: but if you look At cano's actually that's In. Sadi
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: what AM i? Saying you, know two good, fights but
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: the main events, sucks? Right and then they got prospects
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: on the bottom of, It, Right it's, like, wow where'd we?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Go we just had the best pay per view you,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: know in how many years In february twenty, second, right
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: and now you know we're not In april, yet and
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: it just dropped.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: Off that's exactly the Way i'm looking at, it. Right
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: i'm just, like you, know, look we've had.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: This you, KNOW i thought this is run of the
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: mill stuff to keep, saying, RIGHT i, Mean i'll.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: Stand by, it you, know LIKE i still say it even,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 5: Now like WHEN pbc made that run starting in twenty,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 5: FIFTEEN i mean that that rekindled my. INTEREST i MEAN
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 5: i thought they you, know they did the best they
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 5: could in this this, environment.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: Right really at least they got ratings for.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 5: It, yeah and you know they had their moments and
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 5: it's ten years, later and they certainly got some guys
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: known compared to the rest of the. Sport BUT i
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: mean that got me back re engaged just seeing somebody try.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 5: That So, okay they got.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Top rank ON espn as, well because even the person
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: buying it was, like, hey that got my mind, thinking
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: AND i went ahead and got. THAT i think it definitely,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: right the top rank ON.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: Espn that wouldn't happened.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: Otherwise so and then the app came along and they
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: wanted content for, that and we know top rank has
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: that for you, know speaking To George, foreman you.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 5: Know so so that was a good, run like from
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: compared to where we were pre twenty, fifteen with the
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 5: outside of Like, Mayweather paccia and Maybe, canelo the sport
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: was really fading. Bad so you, know there was a
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 5: bit of a revival in that sense for the reason they're,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 5: saying but like now that has faded to, Me, like you,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: know top ranks going off PBC's having some struggle to,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: me you, know his own stuff doesn't have anything basically
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 5: to do with us sensibilities the WAY i see.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: It you, know even though you Have that's what's so
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Funny Dana white, saying, oh we, gotta we gotta do it,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: here you, know because everybody's, saying you, know we're gonna
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: grow it around the. World it's, like, okay, man but you,
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: know to ditch your biggest. Markets you, know who would
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: ever do? That you? Know, yeah that's What they still
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: play golf, here, Correct like The masters is here, right
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: still all these you, know.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's starting to. Happen there's not not not enough
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: being done for us. Sensibilities.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so and they bought the whole Damn Golf league
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: and uh and they still have their big tournaments here
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: though they didn't move. Them you, know they're not all In,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: sadi Right so, yeah, YEAH i don't. Know we'll, See
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: we'll see how it. Goes. Man it was kind of
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: a bummer to see him back right. Down if you
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: look at this guy's track, record allegedly or, not you
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: think you'd have some tough. Skin that's WHAT i thought.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: Too i'm shaking for what he's accused of to.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: Be that w B c pushback wasn't even any good
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 5: BECAUSE i would have just shot back, like, well you
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 5: don't care about the fighters much when you're taking the sanctioning. Fees,
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 5: yeah you, know when they don't get they don't get
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 5: hit enough for, that you, Know, like, yeah so that's
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: not helping the fighters make more money, either, right.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah and their rankings. Suck but now you got
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: your right who's doing the? Rankings then you, LIKE i don't,
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: know it's just, yeah it's like it's more. Complicated AND
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: i really thought, that you, know been saying this for.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: Years you, know you just got to buy it all.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: Up there's just no way. Around you could still have
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: people operating their, business you. Know but, YEAH i don't.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: Know back to the drawing, BOARD i.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 5: Guess, yeah but it might be. BAD i, mean there
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 5: was rumors this week That hern wanted to. Sell, yeah,
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 5: YEAH i heard there is to. It but what if it's.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: TRUE i, mean it'd be a good time for him
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  Speaker 1: to get out because you, know you, know financially that's
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: been great for, him Right, YEAH i don't, know we'll,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: see we will. See but, yeah if if the most
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: of it ends up on the.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 5: Zone it's, like that's not gonna work. EXACTLY i, Mean
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: i'll Just i'll stick with. That it's not picking on,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 5: him it's just a fact of us. Sensibilities that's not
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: gonna do.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: IT i, mean if we're up complaining about the main
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: event on that Free amazon, thing you, know, right like
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: we're we're complaining about, that you, know the least we
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: could do is be honest about his own.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 5: Too, right, yeah. EXACTLY i mean people could see The
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 5: Amazon prime non pay per, view nobody's seeing his own
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 5: and you.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: Know, what we're not going to see either, numbers so
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, mean, Right we'll never see the
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: free numbers out of either. One SO i mean maybe not,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: never but you, know more than likely we.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 5: Won't it's it's sad too because it's unlike the old
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 5: days on, streaming they literally know exactly how many, people, yes, right.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yep like, exactly, yeah there's no based off two hundred
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: thousand homes Because neil is just really projecting some, stuff you,
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: know and sometimes it could be way, more sometimes it
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: can be, less you, know but at least they got
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: it in the bars and. Airports you. Know that helps a,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: little but, YEAH i don't. Know we'll, see all, Right,
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: john all.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 5: Right got talking with you as. Always let's hope we
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: hear some good boxing news by next.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: Week we'll see.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: All have a good.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: One take, Care, yeah, Definitely, ALRIGHTY i don't have a
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: whole lot. More by the, Way Brandon Norman junior And Derrek,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: Qualls i've always been kind of wondering about this, fight
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: And i'm ALWAYS i was kind of in between on,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: it like this is probably a little bit better than
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: people are given it, credit but it might be just
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: recent biased from, me you. Know by the, way, Uh Bruce, Carrington, Delante, Jones,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: vargas some other folks on that on that card as,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: well of course talking about THE espn one and Then
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: hernandez And. Colaso actually the The Asparza vaya that is
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: actually let me double check on the. Odds that's gotta
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: be just razor. Close. Yeah, oh you know what another
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: fight is The jerusalem And. Geo what is? It it's
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: a shig shig kio or don't let me. CHECK i
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: know that's close. Too, Yeah jerusalem is like a plus
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: one sixty three plus. One that's a tight. Fight that's
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: a very tight. Fight, okay so that where the hell is?
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: It where did it? Go, okay Maybe i'm. Tripping oh,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: yeah So asparsa is a plus one seventy six on
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: the fan. DUEL i think that By As sparza is
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good. FIGHT i do think Your costa
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: is gonna, win BUT i might Ah Man Melvin. Jerusale,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: yeah that there's Some there is some fights that the main,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: event excuse, me main event might go a certain, way
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: but then the undercard might pop. Off SO i don't.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: Know we'll see on that. One we'll. See but, YEAH
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: i REALLY i don't. Know but we'll See about THIS tko.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: Stuff i'm just in between on. It to be honest with,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: YOU i really don't like. One they, just you, know
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: just just buy everything, up. Dude and LIKE i, said
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: everybody can still operate their. Business it's not like you're
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: you're putting them out of, business per. Se it's just
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: like a. Merger you. Know, now, obviously you know people
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: go away in, mergers but you, know like many of
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: the people stay at the company and they just are
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: all of a. Sudden it's kind of like you, know
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: back in the day when you just look at your
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: phone and be, like, oh, well looks like that company
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: merged wow or other. Stuff that it just it just
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: happens all of a. Sudden it's called a different THING
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: tcf up In. Minnesota that that's just that merged not
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: too long ago with hunting. It so all of a, Sudden,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: hey by the, way it's going to be hunting. It but,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: YEAH i do like you'll cost A vaya to win that,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: fight but that should be a good. Fight other than,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: that let me go through some news items and then
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: we'll get out of. Here, OH i did want to you,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: KNOW i didn't talk about The, HERNANDEZ i didn't talk
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: about the pro box, card SO i WANT i want
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about. That That hernandez and Uh.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: Lucero that was a good, fight, Man. LUSORRO i think
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: that's what it. WAS i Had hernandez went in the
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: first first, round both of them landed some good shots.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: Late you, Know lucero was probably more accurate in that,
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: round BUT i kind of, LIKE i Thought hernanez landed
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: the better. Shot it was a little bit more cleaner
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: work From, lucero but but he did score a knockdown
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: a counter right. HAND i think it was a counter,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: uppercut IF i remember correctly Dropped hernandez and he got
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: a cut on his eye from. That he came back,
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: though winging, hooks getting the better of the. Exchanges that last.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: Minute he closed, stronger that's for. Sure that. Was that
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: was damn good second. Round tight third, round very tight third.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: ROUND i gave it To. HERNANDEZ i thought what he
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: did early and late was enough to give it to.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: Him But lucero, had you, know plenty of success in that.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 5: In that.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: Round THEN i Gave hernandez in a two way. ROUND
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: i thought he just his, pressure just landing overall better Shots.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: LUCERO i gave the fifth though a left, hand the
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: left hooks in straight right hands that. Round that fifth,
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: realm they, said the punch that was twenty four to twenty,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: four so hooks to the body and had a nice
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: right upper cut to the head as well From. Hernandez
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: BUT i gave that To lucero and Then hernandez in
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: a two way, round two way at. Times, ANYWAY i
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: just thought the combinations he just out hustled, him out worked.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: Him in that. One they kept popping that punch stat
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: up and that was thirty to. Sixteen seventh round was very.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: Close the jab Which hernandez was landed pretty well throughout
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: throughout the. Fight didn't throw it enough. Though neither of
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: him threw a lot of, jabs but the jabs and
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: COMBINATIONS i thought like a late left hook and then
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: two right hands stole around For lucero and the, seventh the,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: eighth the, eighth and ninth and TENTH i actually gave To.
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: HERNANDEZ i just thought he was laying in flusher in the,
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: eighth but definitely two way outworked him in better shots
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: in the. Ninth and Then i'm telling, you if you
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: haven't watched this pro Box co, feature it was a
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: good ass fight because that tenth round just bombs away
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: early and then late they were bombs away exchanging as.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: Well it was a, good good scrap, man very good.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: Fight SO i had it ninety five ninety four with
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: the knockdown two eight to one. Ninety as far as
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: the punch, rate he outworked in the body a little,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: bit but they neither of them jabbed or went to
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: the body enough twenty one to, nine so it's really
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: not a, big big. Difference and then, Yeah, LESTER i
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: Gave Joshawn. James the first, AROUND i liked what he was.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: Doing he's busier with his jab he was pressing few
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: counters By martinez that kind of you, know went his
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: way as the fight went, ON i thought the SECOND
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: i gave it To, martiaz but it was. Close the
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: left hooks and right hands midway through By martinez may
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: have snuck it, out But joshawan was. Jabbing he landed
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: left hooks both to the head and body in a
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: late right, hand so that could have win either. Way
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: but the third, round off the ropes pretty late in
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: the round of overhand right and a left hook dropped
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: him And james looked. Hurt he got his, legs looked
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: hurt and probably about give or to. Take forty or
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: fifty seconds into that fourth, round big right hand in
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: an upper cut with a right, hand and it's kind
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: of weird Because joshun is pretty, tall but he it
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: looked like his knee, touched but the ref wasn't doing
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: anything knee or or glove or. Something it looked like
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: it touched and he you, know So martinez, like all,
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: Right i'm just gonna start, going and he landed a
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: left hook knocked him, down legs were, gone SO i
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: was okay with. THAT Tkl Lester martinez moves to NINETEEN
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: oho with sixteen, Knockouts SO i liked WHAT i. Saw
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: that was a good another pro box. Card, man they're
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: they're you, know we've we've given them credit from the.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: Start definitely good, stuff that's for. SURE a little Boxing
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: twitter slash news and notes and. Stuff saw this on Brunch.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: Boxing shouts out to Brunch boxing and the whole crew over.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: There he Updated Jamel herring arrest. Violation he violated protective
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: order and. Probation he was arrested, allegedly you, know violating
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: it In Warrant. County the protective order issue In january
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  Speaker 1: Prohibits hearing from having any contact with his, Wife Jen,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: herring so he's currently being Held Warren so this was
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: his next schedule court date Was march, twentieth so this
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: is a little while, ago and he did that day
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: are around that he. Tweeted someone is definitely playing games
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: at this. Point some people want some people want, closure
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: others want war. ME i just want to move forward
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: in peace because fighting won't changed the past and bitterness
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: won't build the. Future So i'm just saying what he,
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: did BUT i don't know exactly how that went down
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: though he violated. SOMETHING i don't know IF i don't
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: know the, details but clearly he, definitely you, know violated.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: It so did want to mention, that you, know This Timothy,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: Bradley i'm very hit or miss when it comes to
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: him as a, broadcaster But i've always loved him as a,
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: fighter and many people kind of, have they kind of
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: rewrite their history on him once he Beat, marquez like
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: later in his, career but before he used to get
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: dogged hard because he was swinging for the. Fences he
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of, power but he he would
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: just come to you like he was ready to. Brawl
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: and it's just funny because so many people like take
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: a personality or you, know judge somebody off something you disagree.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: With you, know it could be the like pro, vaccine anti, vaccine,
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: right no matter where you stand with, That i'm not
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: going to like judge you differently as what you're bringing
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: in the, ring you, Know AND i think a lot
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: of people do. That so this this one, dude Unbiased box.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: Two can anyone explain to me who the fuck let
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: this man in The Boxing hall Of. Fame all, wait
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: talking About, bradley and it's, like come, on, Dude, like,
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: yeah The pacquiao thing helped him. Obviously AND i don't
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: think he won that, fight, right you, know goes down
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: as a. WIN i don't think he. Did but he
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: Beat marquez. Two first of, all he beat other fighters
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  Speaker 1: at one and you know somebody's oh had to go
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: With Devin alexander like it. Was he fought solid, dudes
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: and then he went up and fought back, yell and
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: LIKE i, said goes down as a. VICTORY i don't
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: think he beat, him but he you, know that's what it.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: Says and but The marquez performance provoked the cop that
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: WAS i, mean, dude this dude laid it out on the.
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  Speaker 1: Line in, FACT i JUST i didn't watch the, video
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  Speaker 1: BUT i saw in the. TITLE i think it was
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: on Fight. Hype he, SAID i should have fought more Like,
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: shakur you, know and by the, way he couldn't, have
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean, like that's the one Thing
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: i'll say About shakur or other. People you may not
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: like their, style but you're also not gonna be able
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: to fight like. Them But Jay row, said people only
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: Remember bradley as a. Commentator there's no way you can
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: have this take if you Remember bradley as a fighter
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: exactly like you, Know vic, added they're one they weren't
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: around to See bradley Beat devin and And Kendall. Holt
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: oh my, god almost that Against Rouselen peterson and completely
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: stamped his career like he tweets by Beating marquez after
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: he Put manny just After marquez to, sleep or after
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: he Put manny to. Sleep you, know So marques was.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: Hot BASICALLY i did hear from rest the Sources Wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: Informer it sounds like they're they're at some point this
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  Speaker 1: year or next The Mega card is expected to take
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  Speaker 1: place In Saudi, arabia WITH Ufc boxing and W we
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  Speaker 1: all in the same. EVENT i don't, Know i'm not
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: really sure about that. One, okay source of. Boxing this
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: is some boxing twit or. Stuff Alexander usik Or Muhammad
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: ali at heavyweight who wins? Dog that's a bad style
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: For usik, Anyway it's just, like, dude what are we doing?
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: Here and Actually john just mentioned. This this is off
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: Of matt from Brunch boxing rumor report hearing That Eddie
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: hearn sent out feelers to gauge interest out, there you,
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: know for someone to buy matchroum potentially what else we got,
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: OH i mentioned, that you know From dora And xenner zaiez.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: Uh you know that got Called here's, like here's an interesting.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: Tweet you want to bring back boxing or bring boxing.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: Back let's. Promote let's promote club shows and talk about
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: up and coming boxers fighting on these, shows talk about,
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: opponents more personal interest, stories local talent convinced public that
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: a fight is fifty to fifty and be able to
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: promote a fight and fight her to the, public And
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: Peltz boxing responded that Was Joe. Lean by the, way
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: the problem is that most of today's boxing writers only
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: care about so called big time, cards so we have
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: to read the same stories at nauseum on every single boxing.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: Website there's no. Creativity there's some rare exemptions. EXCEPTIONS i
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  Speaker 1: did get a little pushback in the in THE dm
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: about the undercard for You Bank junior In bed and they're,
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: saying you, know the biggest fight is a, mismatch and
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: they called the biggest fight you know on the Undercard Yard,
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: arthur which, yeah you, KNOW i wouldn't call it a complete.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: Mismatch but but plus four seventy five or whatever Is Lyndon.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: Arthur BUT i don't. LISTEN i didn't say there was
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: just like that it, fight, like oh, dude the co
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: features better than the the than the main. Event but
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: my point, was go look at the. Odds, McKenny Liams
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: smith plus one ten plus one, fifteen, McKenny, Clark riley
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: plus one fifteen plus one twenty, Eight Clark glatton plus
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: one seventy. Five you know those three fights, are and
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: then the main. Event i'm not you, Know i'm not
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: crazy about, it But i'm gonna watch. It Connor ben's
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  Speaker 1: like plus one forty plus one twenty. Eight like those four,
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  Speaker 1: fights no one's a plus two hundred and everyone's a
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  Speaker 1: plus two hundred. Down SO i didn't say there was
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  Speaker 1: some kind of crazy awesome fight on. It i'm just,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: saying bang for your buck as far as, competitiveness you,
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: KNOW i think that's pretty damn. GOOD i saw this
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: this kind of cool thing With zap saying me And
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: mayweather were really good. Friends he was talking To Keishaw
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: davis and he's, saying you, know like it was great
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: that we, fought and he says people still stop me
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: on the street and talk about that fight and how
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: we were good, friends but we we both made, money
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: and LIKE i, said it was worth, it And Keishawn
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: davis was even talking, about hey, man was it worth?
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: It and you know you could see him kind of
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: come around on. It but then AND i remember seeing
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: this before and And keishan's, like, cool break us off
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: with two hundred. Million it's, like, dude come, on you're
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: but boxing facts and. Opinions, says y'all never pushed this
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  Speaker 1: hard for spenc And broner Or Tanker, broner tank And.
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  Speaker 1: Broner first of, All Spencer broner was never a, thing,
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  Speaker 1: Dude like that was not thing That it just wasn't a.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: Thing Spence, Charlow, yeah that that's a little bit. Different.
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  Speaker 1: Now spence always Said i'll fight these mother, efforts but
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  Speaker 1: they just had the same, trainer but they They spence
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  Speaker 1: said he'd do. It so, yeah the whole you, KNOW
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  Speaker 1: i don't, know like The Spence browner to go right to,
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  Speaker 1: THAT i just you lost me on that because it's,
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  Speaker 1: like really dud by the way tank And, roach according
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  Speaker 1: To Dan, rafael did did at least two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixty thousand, buys so the whole thing. GENERATED i, mean
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  Speaker 1: if it did two hundred and sixty that's like twenty
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  Speaker 1: million right, there if you if you paid eighty bucks
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  Speaker 1: because most of it after the tax at eighty, bucks
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  Speaker 1: and then the gate was big. Too so and you,
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  Speaker 1: know some people were talking, about you know that That
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  Speaker 1: february twenty second card was going to do. Better even
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: though it was a great. Card it was LIKE i,
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  Speaker 1: said good luck trying to to match that. Card but
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  Speaker 1: even if it did one hundred thousand at twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: pop it'd be two point five. Mils So i'm not saying.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: Anything i'm just, saying, like you, know it is what it.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: Is let's see. Here. Oh benavitez is on The Jake
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  Speaker 1: paul podcast and he, said you, know if you if
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: they can't work with, you then they don't then they
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  Speaker 1: do everything to close you. Out that's according to The Biffel.
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  Speaker 1: Benavidez in THE, Wbo Matt brown had an exclusive interview
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  Speaker 1: with THE wbo president and in the presiden SAID i
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't object To David benavitez And Kellery. Smith that would
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  Speaker 1: be a good fight hopefully that. HAPPENS i wouldn't doubt
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: If yard gets it before, him but that'd be. Great
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: but also stand on this if in, fact like making
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: the trilogy is, fine, Right BUT i do like How
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: samson and him are standing their guns and, saying you
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: guys can make that. Trilogy it just won't be with
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: all the belts and then force the strip because we
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: already know who the lineal is, anyway so that's fine with. Me,
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah and if he doesn't want to make, it he
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to make it right, now he wants to
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: make the, trilogy that's. Fair it's just the one Thing i'll.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: Say When samson said this a couple different, times him
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: saying that he won't fight bevol let's say he remains
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: lineal In, SADI i disagree with. That if you have
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 1: a chance at a lineal title and you're gonna make
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: as much money as you make. Here although you know
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: you could do the paper at this time like they're
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 1: doing With, canelo BUT i understand it would do bigger.
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 1: Here obviously at the gate it would do much, bigger
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: and then The pavier he is going to do, bigger
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: but because it would get more attention, here but if
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: it's for, lineal and you know He samson at the
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 1: same time, says you know they were willing to Fight
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: canelo for five million and it was more about. Legacy,
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: well if you have a chance to fight for, lineal
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: guess what you take that. Chance i'm not saying you
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: gotta sign a five year deal and maybe they make
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: him sign a three year deal or, whatever and you
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: can negotiate and be, LIKE i want my other fights
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: home or. WHAT i don't know if that would, work,
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't know, That But i'm just, saying if
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: you have a, chance if you, do let's say next,
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: year that fight's done, now right With bivol And baturviev
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: And bivil came out of, it you GOTTA i would do.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: It Here's matt Promotional gang bang in boxing has gotten
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: so bad that you have fans arguing against met Your
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: bivol Fighting benavita's. Next he's, like y'all brains are. Cooked
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: If bivl wants a trilogy, next, Fine but IF i
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: hear one more goddamn boxing fan Mentioned Michael, Effert he's,
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: like what are we? Doing and it's so, True like
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: oh the ibf, no the ibs, First, okay what's a
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: better Fight Beville benavidez or this fucking? Guy you? Know
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 1: speaking of this fucking guy shouts out To Jake paul
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: in some form in fashion promotional all that. Stuff but
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: this is, ridiculous and this is him. Promoting but he
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: said About Anthony, Joshua i'll Fuck i'll fucking Beat Anthony joshua's.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: Ass he doesn't have a, chin he has no, skill
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: and he's a. Stiff AND i, guarantee even if it
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: was a few years from, NOW i guarantee H aj
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: would knock thish shit out Of Jake. Paul and that's
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: not saying. Much Jermal charlo Or Jamel charlo's due back late.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: Summer according To Tom, brown possible opponents Back Rahum fundora
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: Or Ramos. Junior. Possible he signed me up for any
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 1: of those sign me up for any of those fights that'll.
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: Work there was a rumor going up. Well Mauricio soliman
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: said on The Boxing voice that uh That bivel was
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: offered eight mil to Fight benavitez for, undisputed and it
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: sounds like the W bo speaking of, that they've Confirmed
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  Speaker 1: Terrence crawford Will know will not return to one fifty,
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: four so he'll relingus his IB o or his INTERIM.
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  Speaker 1: Wbo so that's where it kicked in u you, know
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  Speaker 1: with the mandatory challenger With xander Zyaz. So and LIKE i,
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  Speaker 1: said if they're gonna do that, late that's fine with,
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: me you know WHAT i, Mean that'll work for. Me
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  Speaker 1: Here's meyern medcalf a Local minneapolis writer For The Star TRIP.
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  Speaker 1: Espn all the, Way he's done a lot of good
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: stuff there talking About George. Foreman George foreman didn't stop
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: fighter or stopped fighting after his lost To ali seventy.
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  Speaker 1: Four he Beat fraser, again beat Ron, lyle but then
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: twenty eight years, old after Lost Jimmy, young he was.
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  Speaker 1: Finished he didn't box her ten years before he returned
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  Speaker 1: to the most brutal sport in the world when he
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 1: was thirty eighty, five twenty four times over the next
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 1: four years before he got a shot at Toly field
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  Speaker 1: the belt when he was forty seven years, old lost that,
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: fight kept fighting more than three years after at forty,
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: five that's when, he you, know Beat more in nineteen ninety,
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: four orchestrated the greatest comeback in the history of, sports
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't given any quick pass to a title
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 1: when he returned to, boxing quite the. Opposite so he
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: goes on to you, know talk about it. More but
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: that was that was well, said and LIKE i, said
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: rip To George. Foreman, man it's that. Sucks that really.
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  Speaker 1: Sucks and then here's some fun because you, know some
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: people were Saying Sky sky was that. Talented don't be
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: surprised If Sky nicholson Stops Tierra. Brown, okay by the,
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  Speaker 1: way according To Carlos, Lenares hitchins And Camp Boss june twenty,
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  Speaker 1: First New york OR. La so we'll see if that's.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: True from WHAT i saw, Yesterday sky wins the fight
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: comfortably In. Australia and someone asked or said, it, said
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: she'll win every, round very easy. Fight i've got lots
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  Speaker 1: of tweets Bookmarked.
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  Speaker 5: Sky.
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  Speaker 1: Stevenson that was thrown out there a couple of, Times Sky,
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  Speaker 1: Stevenson she'll win every. Round oh, Yeah brown's way too.
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  Speaker 1: Slow it might Be sky's easiest. Fight. Yeah brown is
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: lethal on the, inside But sky don't sit in the
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: pocket and moves all. Night sky ud is the? Pick
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: are you? Sure oh? Yeah and then before it was
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 1: Like sky Scared tierra. Off oh is this really? Happening
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: they were making it sound like Like Sky. Nicholson this
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: Is january. Twentieth we'll announce the fight When tierra finds
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: her pen Is tierra ducking you, now don't lie to,
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 1: me you, know making a big deal about. It by the,
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: WAY i Think ston bramble also passed. Away rip Ron katz,
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  Speaker 1: said damn NOW i Read Livingston brando passed.
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  Speaker 5: Away.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: ALSO i did a bunch of his fights in the
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 1: late eighties and early. Nineties he was so much fun
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: to be. Around this one hits home a little the second. Time.
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: Today i'm Saying Rip, CHAMPION rp Bramble man and Then
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: Keishan davis and Dal SANTO'S i don't mind that fight at. All,
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 1: Actually john was against. IT i didn't mind that at.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: All to be honest with, you that was that was
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: fine with. ME i wouldn't Have, okay did someone send
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: me this? Before AND i read it a couple of weeks. Ago,
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: anyway the boxing man says Du, bois this is it's
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: been six months since Du bois knocked out Aj, right
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: and he basically said that you, know he beats him
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: in the. Rematch what, oh and Then matt pointed this
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  Speaker 1: out from Brunch. Boxing he still can't Believe boxing scene
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  Speaker 1: posts did a picture Of Osha jones instead Of Tira, Brown,
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: like that's fucked, up, dude that's messed. Up that is messed.
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  Speaker 1: UP i THINK i think that's about. It it was
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: Until april twelfth to reach an agreement or avoid the
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: purse bid when it comes to. That. Uh From doora's
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: ayas fight Um, Terrace crowfer says he will be top
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: three all time pound for pound when he Beats. Canelo
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 1: i'm doing Some Henry armstrong struck. Stuff now you are
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: Doing Henry armstrong, stuff but you just haven't done enough
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: of it to be top. Three. Okay and here's So
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: Ring magazine said who's the best in the division when
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: it came to the welterweight and they you, know named
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: the champions and said Writing yogi, said or yoga Yo
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  Speaker 1: Yogi boots needs to unify it said p, said we
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: don't get this goofy question. Anymore, well, ASAP i mean
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: he's got a fight With, stantonius so we're gonna find.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: Out that is the Lineal i'd say in my opinion. Anyway, oh,
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: Okay i'm Gonna i'm stopping on this. One so someone Said.
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: Canel someone said this to. Me it's From dan The Boxing,
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: man but someone screenshot it and said and Said canela
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: over is next four fights? Possible possible Beyond, Skull so
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: Obviously Skull, crawford but Then february twenty twenty, SIX u
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: bank and Then sharra's In october twenty twenty. Six if
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: those are the fights you Bank junior In, sharaz Keep
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: canelo And, sadi then that's fine with. Me that's fine with.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 1: Me if that's the fights you're gonna give, Anyway i'm
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: gonna get out here enjoy the fights