Latest / Andy Stanley Sermons / Andy Stanley - Leading Effectively in Times of Disruption
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- 0:10Hey, everybody. Andy Stanley here and I'm so grateful to have been included
- 0:14once again as part of the Leader cast lineup. Now, as you've already
- 0:18heard, this year's theme was chosen months before anybody knew about this year's disruption,
- 0:23which means, of course that this year's theme is well, it's more
- 0:26relevant and it's more important than ever. But what's going on in our world
- 0:30right now actually highlights what I call the dirty little secret about leadership. It's
- 0:35a secret that actually looms large during times of disruption. And the secret is
- 0:39this, right, we don't always know what to do. Got that we
- 0:43don't always know what to do. We don't always have all the answers,
- 0:48and this is big and we are making this up as we go along.
- 0:52So feel better now, I hope. So actually having the discipline and the
- 0:57humility to admit those three things makes you an even better, better leader.
- 1:00It makes you a leader worth following. Besides, you know this uncertainty.
- 1:04Uncertainty has always been part of the leadership equation. In fact, it's a
- 1:08permanent part of the leadership equation. Truth is, uncertainty and disruption are why
- 1:15the world needs leaders. It's why the folks in your company, your department,
- 1:19your division, or perhaps even your neighborhood. Need you why, Well,
- 1:23we've talked about this before, because the unique role of the leader is
- 1:26to take people on journeys to places they have never been before. And we
- 1:32have certainly never been here before, have we? And when I say we,
- 1:36I mean you and me. I mean that's what makes this season so
- 1:38challenging. But it's also what makes this season so well. In some ways,
- 1:44it makes it kind of exciting. I mean, it's filled with opportunity.
- 1:47We're all learning new things, we're all trying new things, and we
- 1:51have all become zoom ninjas, haven't we. I'm confident that we're all going
- 1:55to be better when this is over. That's my goal anyway. But in
- 1:57the meantime, it is challenging, to be sure, and to be honest,
- 2:00I'll tell you this, My heart really goes out to those of you
- 2:04who were forced to homeschool your kids to the end of the semester. I
- 2:07mean, homeschooling is not for the faint of heart. Sandra and I actually
- 2:12chose to homeschool for ten years, and it was not a casual endeavor.
- 2:15Even though we chose to do it. The thought of having that forced on
- 2:19us in the middle of a semester can't imagine. Ben couldn't imagine it either.
- 2:24In fact, during a particularly challenging day, Ben wrote this note to
- 2:29whomever it concerned. Here's what he wrote. He writes, he puts his
- 2:34name at the top. Ben, He's being homed school. He says this.
- 2:38It is not going good. My mom is getting stressed out. My
- 2:44mom is really getting confused. We took a break so my mom can figure
- 2:49this stuff out. And I'm telling you it is not going good. Now.
- 2:54Even if you weren't recruited against your will into the underworld of homeschooling,
- 2:59you can feel Ben's pain and you can feel his mother's pain as well.
- 3:02But like a lot of us in this season, Ben and his mom,
- 3:05well, they rose to the occasion. That's what leaders do. But that's
- 3:09not what everybody does. In fact, the folks who have leadership titles but
- 3:14who lack leadership intuition, they're actually failing miserably right now, aren't they.
- 3:19They're failing miserably quickly, and unfortunately some of them are failing publicly now.
- 3:24When the people at leader Cast reached out to me about this new and necessary
- 3:29format. I actually went to work creating new content in light of what's happening.
- 3:32And so while I'm sorry that we're not together, I am very excited
- 3:36about what I have to share because while there are no maps or instructions for
- 3:42what we're currently navigating, there are some key principles to keep in mind,
- 3:46and today I just want to share three with you. But before we go
- 3:50there, I have to go here. As most of you know, I'm
- 3:53a pastor by profession. That's my day job and it has been for gosh,
- 3:57over thirty years. And I'm the son of a pastor, and my
- 4:00dad's grandfather was a pastor, and my oldest son is a stand up comedian,
- 4:05which is close. Anyway, my point in bringing this up, and
- 4:10please don't tune me out until you hear me out. If you're a leader,
- 4:14if you lead a team, a division, a department, or a
- 4:16franchise, or if you own a company, if you coach a little league
- 4:20team, or maybe if you coached a little league team, if you're a
- 4:24teacher, a professor, maybe a superintendent, if you lead in any capacity,
- 4:29you are, and don't tune me out. You are actually a pastor.
- 4:33And here's why I say that, while for most of us the term
- 4:36pastor carries religious connotation, it is not a religious term. In fact,
- 4:41it comes from a Latin term for shepherd. In fact, the term pastor
- 4:46that appears in our English New Testaments, our English Bibles, it also comes
- 4:49from a Greek term for shepherd. So a pastor is a shepherd. But
- 4:56to be clear, that does not mean your employees and your direct reports are
- 5:00sheep. As we're going to discover together, most of them are pastors or
- 5:03shepherds in their own capacity. Now, in spite of my heritage, and
- 5:08this is going to be very difficult for some of you to believe, pastoring
- 5:12does not come naturally to me, I had to learn. In fact,
- 5:15the people around me would tell you that I'm still learning. I'm a much
- 5:19better public speaker, and I'm a much better decision maker than i am a
- 5:23shepherd or pastor, and I'm not proud of that. In fact, the
- 5:26only reason I share that with you is so for those of you who are
- 5:29already playing with your phone because you're thinking, there's no way I'm going to
- 5:31do this right. You're not the touchy feely type, and this is sounding
- 5:35a way way too soft for you. I get that, and this may
- 5:41not be the way that you're wired. But here's the thing, it's still
- 5:44part of your responsibility as a leader, and that's what I hope to convince
- 5:47you of over the next few minutes. Maybe this will set your mind at
- 5:51ease. Years ago, one of the gentlemen on our board was rushed to
- 5:56the hospital for emergency surgery. And when I found out, I drove over
- 6:00to the hospital to check on him, and I didn't And honestly, I
- 6:03still don't do a lot of hospital visitation two reasons. Number one, I'm
- 6:09terrible at it, and number two, I'm uncomfortable with it. And then
- 6:12I make people uncomfortable, which is the last thing you want to do when
- 6:15people are already uncomfortable. But at times, of course, it's what I
- 6:19need to do, so I do it anyway. So I walk into Ray's
- 6:23hospital room and his eyes got big, and before he could stop himself,
- 6:27he blurts out, Andy, what are you doing here? And I said,
- 6:30well, Ray, I just came by to check on you, and
- 6:33he said, and I quote and Ray and I have laughed about this ever
- 6:38since. He said, oh, when I saw you, I thought it
- 6:42must be worse than they told me because I'm such a comforting present. So
- 6:47for some of you, when I'm about to suggest, will not come natural,
- 6:51and I can appreciate that. In fact, my tendency is to shy
- 6:55away from this role and to shy. In fact, my tendency is to
- 6:58shy away from this role in such a way that I've had to give my
- 7:00wife, my administrative assistant, and others permission to push me back into this
- 7:05role. And I know that sounds so strange to you because I'm a pastor.
- 7:10Now. The point is you may have to allow the people around you
- 7:14to push you into this role as well, and that's okay. It doesn't
- 7:17mean that you don't care about people. You do. You just care differently.
- 7:21But in times of disruptions, we have to disrupt our own patterns of
- 7:28leadership and resist, in some cases our personalities and even our temperaments. And
- 7:32I'm confident you can do this. I'm confident that you can step into the
- 7:35role of pastor or shepherd because you're a leader. You're a great leader,
- 7:41and great leaders don't hide behind what's comfortable. Right, We don't play it
- 7:46safe. We don't barricade ourselves behind our staff and our titles and you know,
- 7:51and our org charts. We know the danger of refusing to step outside
- 7:56of our comfort zones, right, We know this. Great leaders do what
- 8:00needs to be done. And in times of disruption, In times of disruption,
- 8:05people need shepherding, they need pastoring, they need reassuring. It's part
- 8:11of our job, and now more than ever, whether it is comfortable or
- 8:16not, whether it fits our temperament or our personalities or not, we have
- 8:20to turn it up in the mix. And here's the thing. In fact,
- 8:24I'll make you a promise. If you do this, even if you
- 8:28do it poorly or awkwardly, people whose lives and salaries and security you're responsible
- 8:35for, they're going to be grateful. And if this is not your normal
- 8:37leadership style, they will recognize that and they will be especially grateful. They're
- 8:43going to recognize that you're actually stepping outside of what's comfortable for you for their
- 8:46sake, that you're putting them first. And that's what great leaders do.
- 8:52So I want to suggest three things, and then at the end, I'm
- 8:56going to tell you a story about a leader who chose to step way out
- 9:00side of his just give me the facts approach to leadership that a lot of
- 9:03us embrace. A leader who's circumstances, Well, these circumstances are so extreme,
- 9:09and you're going to remember this story, but after today you may remember
- 9:13this story in a different light. But first, three essentials for leading through
- 9:16disruption. Number one, During times of disruption, your voice is more important
- 9:22than your words. Your voice is more important than your words. People need
- 9:26to hear your voice. It's not enough for them to read your words.
- 9:31I mean, email and text are for normal times. During times of disruption,
- 9:35people need to hear your voice. They need to hear our voice.
- 9:37Now, I know you're just like me, you are so tired of online
- 9:41meetings. But they are essential. And they're not just essential because of the
- 9:45agenda agenda. They're essential because people need to hear your voice. They need
- 9:50reassuring. You may not need it, but they do. So here's a
- 9:54tip. Use your zoom calls to shepherd people as well as cover agenda items.
- 10:00And you can do this when there are a handful of folks on the
- 10:03call. Just begin by asking everybody, how are you doing? Just just
- 10:05go right around the circle, how are you doing? And take notes,
- 10:09so that next time you're together you could ask specific questions. Second time around,
- 10:13you say, Molly, hey, last time you mentioned your mom,
- 10:16how's your mom? Hey, Gary, you know, how's your wife handling
- 10:20being furloughed? Last time you mentioned she'd been furloughed? How's homeschooling? Everybody
- 10:24knows the answer to that right anyway, But allowing people to hear your voice
- 10:28it actually goes beyond zoom calls and online staff gatherings. In some instances,
- 10:33you're going to need to pick up your phone and call people. Call somebody,
- 10:37even if you can't call everybody. This is symbolic leadership. In other
- 10:41words, and we've talked about this before. Every once in a while,
- 10:45in leadership, you have to do for one what you wish you could do
- 10:48for everyone. Do for one what you wish you could do for everyone.
- 10:52Your team may be too large for you to call everyone, but call someone,
- 10:56especially if you've heard that someone is having a particularly difficult time. People
- 11:01talk the story of your well timed, short, maybe even awkward, phone
- 11:07call. It's going to circulate, and that's not why you're doing it.
- 11:09You're doing it because you care, right, So ignore that little voice in
- 11:13your head that we all hear. Just ignore that little voice that says,
- 11:16since I can't do it for everyone, I shouldn't do it for anyone.
- 11:22That is nonsense. Don't be fair, be engaged, especially in times like
- 11:26these. It was probably, I don't know, about three weeks ago a
- 11:31staff member and her husband had a big disruption related to the COVID nineteen pandemic,
- 11:37and I was talking. I was at home. I was talking to
- 11:39Sandra about it, and she said, well, have you called her?
- 11:41And I said no, but I was planning to text her later. And
- 11:43she just looked at me like she does sometimes, and she said, you
- 11:46should call her. She needs to hear your voice, she needs to hear
- 11:50from you. And then she reached over on the kitchen counter and she handed
- 11:54me my phone and said, I think you should call her right now,
- 11:58right, And so I did. That was the right thing to do,
- 12:01And of course I didn't know exactly what to say. At times, there's
- 12:05not a right thing to say, and that's why we don't call, isn't
- 12:09it. But that's a mistake. So call people, Call somebody, even
- 12:13if you can't call everybody. So maybe a week later, Sandra and I
- 12:18were having dinner alone at home, and I was telling her about another family
- 12:22that was going through a difficult time, and I said, I thought I
- 12:24was going to get credit for this, and said, hey, I just
- 12:26got his wife's sell And she said, well, have you called And I
- 12:28said no, I'm going to call tomorrow. She said, let's call right
- 12:31now. So again she hands me my phone and we called. Awkward.
- 12:37Yes, appreciated, Yes, the right thing to do, of course,
- 12:41So you might remember this. This will help you a little bit. You
- 12:45remember this scene. I think we all do you remember this scene? Remember
- 12:48this picture. President Bush is standing there with Bob beckwith he's with the New
- 12:54York Fire Department, and they're standing there. If you remember the broader scene,
- 12:58they're surveying the dam image at the nine to eleven site, and the
- 13:03crowd seized President Bush there and the crowd begins to chant Usa, Usa,
- 13:07Usa, and President Bush. This is so interesting. President Bush could have
- 13:09simply waved, but somehow intuitively he knew, he knew they needed to hear
- 13:16his voice, so you'll remember this. So he borrows Bob's bullhorn. He's
- 13:20unprepared, unscripted, unrehearsed, but he knew they needed to hear his voice,
- 13:26and in that moment, America needed to hear his voice right, and
- 13:30this became an iconic moment. He began talking through the bullhorn, and after
- 13:35a minute you'll remember this, somebody from the back of the crowd yells out,
- 13:39I can't hear you, and President Bush shouts back through the bullhorn,
- 13:45I can hear you. And the rest of the world here's you and the
- 13:54people, the people who knock down these buildings, they're going to hear from
- 13:58all of us soon. And then you'll remember the workers started chanting again,
- 14:01Usa, Usa, Usa, And then he said this. He said,
- 14:05the nation sends its love and compassion, unscripted, unrehearsed, but so memorable.
- 14:13It was what we needed at the time. And during times of disruption,
- 14:18the people in your organization need to hear your voice again. Our voices
- 14:24are more important than our words. Our voices are more important than our words.
- 14:28And that leads me to the second essential during times of disruption, During
- 14:33times of disruption, your presence or my presence, our presence. Your presence
- 14:37is more important than your presentation. Your presence just being there is more important
- 14:43than your presentation. Now, one reason that I don't communicate more in times
- 14:48like this is I don't feel like I should communicate until I have something to
- 14:52say or something new, something helpful, something insightful, and something specific to
- 14:58say, until I have answer to give and solutions to offer. And that's
- 15:03a mistake because during times of disruption, we must communicate before we have answers
- 15:07and before we have solutions. And that's difficult for some of us, isn't
- 15:11it, because our presence is more important than our presentation. Now again,
- 15:16this is difficult for anybody who has any kind of leadership role. And here's
- 15:20why I get this because we are solution oriented, we are strategy oriented,
- 15:24and we are progress oriented. That's why we're leaders. So this is how
- 15:28we think. We think, well, why pull people together if we don't
- 15:33have solutions and we don't have answers and we don't have a plan. And
- 15:35the answer is this, because in times of disruption, there's something more important
- 15:41than solutions, answers and plans, namely reassurance. People need to know.
- 15:48People need to know that we are feeling what they are feeling, and that
- 15:52we are thinking about them, that we're concerned for them. And that's what
- 15:56a pastor Shepherd leader does Now again, I struggle with this. I am
- 16:03very scripted. I am a very scripted In fact, I'm a preparation addict.
- 16:07I don't show up unprepared. And in normal times, that's a win,
- 16:11right, and that's to my advantage. I mean, it demonstrates discipline.
- 16:15Preparation, you know, demonstrates a respect for people's time. Under normal
- 16:19circumstances, you know this, to show up unprepared is actually disrespectful. But
- 16:23in times of disruption, in times of disruption, preparation has to take a
- 16:29back seat to our presence. Showing up and showing up more than is expected,
- 16:34more than we need to, that's the win. It sends well,
- 16:38it really sends an intangible message that I don't know that it could be communicated
- 16:41any other way. Besides, you know this, the folks in your organization
- 16:45are smart. They know there are no answers right now. They know there
- 16:49is no solution right now. I mean, we're in the middle of a
- 16:52crisis. But what they need to know is that we know that we're working
- 16:56on it for their sake, that we have them in mind. Maybe another
- 17:03hospital illustration will bring this into focus, and I'll be honest, This one
- 17:07may be a little close to home, depending on what you're going through right
- 17:11now. Have you ever sat in a waiting room waiting for information from a
- 17:15doctor or a surgeon. Either you're there with someone you love, or perhaps
- 17:19you're getting the results of a surgery you've just had, or there's a you're
- 17:23just waiting. You're sitting in the waiting room, you're waiting for a doctor
- 17:26or a surgeon. Can you get too much information in that situation? I
- 17:30mean, can they over communicate? Can they show up too often? Can
- 17:34they show up too soon? No? In fact, when the doctor or
- 17:38the surgeon walks in, what do we do? We just lean in?
- 17:41Right? We crave information, we crave reassurance, and we crave their presence.
- 17:48We don't want a text, we don't want a phone call. We
- 17:51want a person. And in a hospital waiting room, isn't this true?
- 17:55In a hospital waiting room, we could care less about the quality of the
- 17:57doctor's presence. I mean, we don't roll our eyes if his grammar isn't
- 18:03perfect, and we don't get upset if she mispronounces a name. In fact,
- 18:07I have a dear friend in the hospital right now who tested positive for
- 18:11COVID nineteen and he is literally no exaggeration, he is fighting for his life
- 18:15right now. So the other night, I'm Sandra and I called his wife
- 18:19at home. And the reason she's at home, of course, is because
- 18:22in this current environment, they send everybody home. It's just so frustrating,
- 18:26it's so terrible. And his wife did not have my phone number in her
- 18:30cell phone, but she answered immediately, and when she found out it was
- 18:34me, I could hear the disappointment in her voice. Why, well,
- 18:41before she could help herself catch herself, she told me she said this,
- 18:45She said, oh, I'm sorry, Andy, I thought you were the
- 18:48ICU doctor. And then she started apologizing and I'm like, no, no,
- 18:52you don't have to apologize. I understand right why because she's waiting by
- 18:56the phone hoping to hear from the doctor. Now, our situations aren't that
- 19:00extreme for most of us. But here's the thing. When people's jobs,
- 19:06when people's salaries, when people's hours, when people's security is in jeopardy,
- 19:11it's equally top of mind and it is equally top of emotion. They cannot
- 19:17get too much information. We cannot over communicate and let people know when they
- 19:22can expect to hear from you again. Say it once, say it twice,
- 19:26and say hey, I'm going to be back next week. We're going
- 19:27to meet again, even if I'm just going to repeat what you already know.
- 19:32I want to be present because hearing my voice is more important than my
- 19:34words, and my presence is more important than my preparation. Now, one
- 19:41more thing on this point, And this may not be practical for you,
- 19:45but just give it some thought. Whenever it's possible, give people an opportunity
- 19:49to voice their concern and ask questions. Like most of you, we are
- 19:55limited to online staff and department gatherings right now, and it's all a clunky
- 20:00and you know when you have dozens or maybe even hundreds of people gathered in
- 20:04that format, folks, well they're going to be reluctant to ask questions in
- 20:07public, most folks, anyway. So create a way or maybe create ways
- 20:12for people to ask questions offline or even online. Use the chat feature,
- 20:18or set up an email account specifically for that purpose so people can ask their
- 20:22questions in private. Give them your cell number, but somehow invite feedback,
- 20:27because this is a tangible way of saying we have nothing to hide, We're
- 20:33telling you everything we know and if we've missed something, ask us. We
- 20:37want to know what you want to know. Recently, in fact, just
- 20:41two weeks ago, I had an opportunity to interview Patrick Lincioni on my Leadership
- 20:47podcast about his brand new book, The Motive, and by the way,
- 20:48it is a great book. But before the interview, he was in California
- 20:53and I was here in Georgia and we were skyping. I said, hey,
- 20:56hey, Pat, before we jump in, what are you saying to
- 21:00leaders right now? Because he talks to leaders around the country and around the
- 21:03world all the time, and I'm thinking with the global pandemic, I said,
- 21:07you know, Patrick, what are you saying to leaders right now?
- 21:08And here's here's what he said. He said, I'm telling leaders to be
- 21:14human. That amazing. I'm telling leaders to be human, to check in
- 21:18often. No one has ever this is such a powerful statement. No one
- 21:22has ever left a company because the leader over communicated or communicated to often.
- 21:29And he's right, isn't he He's right. That's why I say your voice
- 21:33is more important than your words, and your presence. Your presence is more
- 21:37important than your presentation. Last thing number three in times of disruption. In
- 21:44times of disruption, clarity is the next best thing to certainty. Clarity is
- 21:49the next best thing to certainty. Now, this is human nature. People
- 21:55crave certainty, we all do. It's human nature. People crave certainty.
- 21:59The problem is, no matter how good you are as a leader, you
- 22:03cannot provide certainty. Certainty is beyond your control. It's beyond all of our
- 22:08control. Why because certainty is in the realm that we have no control over,
- 22:12namely the future. You can promise certainty, but you can't provide it.
- 22:18And if you promise it and don't provide it, you lose the third
- 22:22See, you lose credibility. Right when politicians we know this, when politicians
- 22:27are running for office, there's some speeches are always filled with certainty. You
- 22:30know, elect me, and I promise, I promise, I promise,
- 22:33I promise. Unfortunately, you have to over promise to get elected anything in
- 22:37our country. But fortunately for you, you're not running for anything. So
- 22:42don't give into that temptation. You'll just disappoint people. But while we can't
- 22:47provide certainty, and this is so important, while we can't provide certainty,
- 22:49which we can't, we can provide the next best thing and the next best
- 22:53thing to certainty is clarity and in times of disruption, will suffice. When
- 23:02a state governor recently was asked why he didn't address the people in his state
- 23:06about you know, the coronavirus earlier, you know why he didn't try to
- 23:08get out ahead of it and you know, talk to his state. Here's
- 23:11what he said. He said, I didn't want to create panic. But
- 23:18here's why that was a bad decision. Information doesn't usually create panic. Information
- 23:25doesn't usually create panic. Withholding information is what often creates panic withholding information.
- 23:30Here's what happened withholding information, even little bits of information. It forces people
- 23:37to seek out information from unreliable sources. Then there's misinformation, conflicting information,
- 23:44and that's what causes people to panic. But information from someone with authority,
- 23:48someone who has access to more information, even partial information, that provides clarity.
- 23:56It doesn't remove the uncertainty, because well, you can't remove uncertainty,
- 23:59but it addresses it. When leadership is quiet for too long and appears to
- 24:03be inaccessible, what happens people begin to seek answers from unofficial sources, which
- 24:08fuels rumors and later actually undermines the credibility of the people who are in charge.
- 24:15In the case of the coronavirus, we've all seen this. It's actually
- 24:18made it more difficult to persuade the public to take the necessary steps to spread
- 24:22to stop the spread of the virus. Why because in some cases leaders didn't
- 24:26get out ahead of the information, and they didn't show up enough times for
- 24:30people to understand what was really going on, and they left people wondering and
- 24:34wandering and looking for information and unreliable sources. So the point is simply this,
- 24:40it's impossible. I just think it's impossible to overstate the importance of consistent,
- 24:45transparent communication and times of disruption. People want to make informed decisions and
- 24:52they need information to do that. They don't need answers. They're smart,
- 24:55they don't need solutions. Sometimes there are no solutions, but they do need
- 24:59information. So take every opportunity to provide clarity. And while we're on this,
- 25:04let me just say one more thing. When it comes to clarity,
- 25:07let's be honest, right, be honest, don't pretend, and please don't
- 25:15exaggerate. You can be hopeful and you can be reassuring, but dishonest or
- 25:19even less than transparent that's always a mistake. This will always come back to
- 25:23haunt you. It will actually erode your credibility. But worse, I think
- 25:29worse, it sets people up for despair. Now back to our personalities for
- 25:33a moment. Some of us are better than others at delivering not so good
- 25:38news. Right for the naturally optimistic leaders out there, this is going to
- 25:42run so counter to your wiring. But this is so important, and as
- 25:47I mentioned earlier, in times of disruption, we all have to step up
- 25:51and step outside of our comfort zone. And while being both honest and hopeful
- 25:56seem a little bit counterintuitive, especially when honest seems to undermine hopeful, it
- 26:00isn't. In fact, there's a way to do both, and as a
- 26:03leader, you must do both. And here's why. You may be familiar
- 26:07with the name Admiral Jim Stockdale. Admiral Jim Stockdale he ran for vice president
- 26:12back in the nineties. He was a Navy vice admiral, but he's best
- 26:17known for the fact that he was This is amazing. He was the highest
- 26:21ranking US military officer to be imprisoned in the Hanoy Hilton prisoner of War camp
- 26:26during the Vietnam War. He was there for eight years. Let that sink
- 26:32in. He was there for eight years. He was tortured over twenty times,
- 26:34primarily because he refused to cooperate with the Vietnamese, a North Vietnamese propaganda
- 26:40machine. He actually disfigured his own face with a razor so they wouldn't put
- 26:45him on camera. Now years ago, author Jim Collins had an opportunity to
- 26:48interview Stockdale for his book Good to Great and he asked him the question that
- 26:53well, we would all want to ask him, and he said, Admiral
- 26:56Stockdale, how in the world did you survive? And here's what he said.
- 27:00He said, I never lost faith in the end of the story.
- 27:06That is such a powerful, powerful statement. But he continued, he said
- 27:10this, He said, I never doubted not only that I would get out,
- 27:15but also that I would prevail in the end, and I would turn
- 27:18this experience into the defining event of my life, which in retrospect I would
- 27:25not trade. And then Jim Collins asked this question. He said, well,
- 27:30then, who didn't make it out, to which he replied, oh,
- 27:33that's easy. The optimist, he continued, The optimist. They were
- 27:40the ones who said we're going to be out by Christmas, and Christmas would
- 27:42come, and Christmas would go, and then they would say we're going to
- 27:47be out by Easter, and Easter would come, and Easter would go,
- 27:51and then Thanksgiving and then it would be Christmas again. And then he made
- 27:56this statement, he said, the optimist, the optimist die of a broken
- 28:02heart. And then he turns to Jim. This was like a dramatic moment.
- 28:04He turns to Jim Collins and he says, Jim, this is a
- 28:07very very very important lesson. And then he made what became a pretty famous
- 28:11statement. He said this. He said, you must never confuse faith.
- 28:18You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end, which you
- 28:22can never afford to lose, with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts
- 28:27of your current reality, whatever whatever they may be. Now, this is
- 28:33sometimes referred to as the Stockdale paradox, and a paradox, as you know,
- 28:37as a seemingly self contradictory statement that actually proved to be true. And
- 28:41the paradox here is simply this, and this is the leadership lesson for all
- 28:45of us. Never give up hope, Never give up hope, but never
- 28:51deceive yourself about current reality, never give up hope, and never deceive yourself
- 28:56about current reality. In other words, face the brutal facts. Again,
- 29:02there is such an important leadership lesson here for all of us, especially right
- 29:04now. And here's what it is. Part of our role as leaders shepherds
- 29:10is to inspire our team members not to give up hope, not to despair,
- 29:15while at the same time refusing, refusing to pull any punches as it
- 29:19relates well to the brutal facts of our current situation. And that's difficult for
- 29:25some of us, right. I mean, if you're an all sunshine and
- 29:26roses and you know, dance around the brutal facts kind of leader, you
- 29:30accidentally set your people up for despair. But if you bury people under the
- 29:36facts and the stats and the forecast, you leave them with no other option
- 29:41but despair. But if you're willing, and if we're willing to stand in
- 29:45the middle, if you're willing to kind of rain in that part of your
- 29:48temperament and personality that sort of leans one way to the exclusion of the other,
- 29:52and you offer hope rooted in reality, then you've done your job as
- 29:57a leader. Then you've done your people at great service. You have led
- 30:03well, You've provided clarity in the midst of uncertainty. So be honest,
- 30:08don't pretend tell it like it is, tell it like it really is,
- 30:12and then point toward a preferred future, a realistic, but preferred and possible
- 30:18future. You say things like this, You say, look, I don't
- 30:22have all the answers right now, but we will figure this out together.
- 30:26So you give people something to hope for, and when you can give them
- 30:30something to work for, say things like this, I don't know when.
- 30:33I don't know when we will open our doors again, but in the meantime,
- 30:37here are three things I want you to focus on. Again. You
- 30:41can't provide certainty, but you can provide clarity, and in times of disruption,
- 30:45clarity is enough. It's the next best thing to certainty. So be
- 30:51clear, even if you're not certain. Just this past week, I actually
- 30:55send a short video out to our entire staff announcing that our plan is to
- 30:59re open our churches or our doors of our organization on August the ninth,
- 31:03when school starts, and then we all went to work creating a plan to
- 31:07be ready for August the ninth. Now am I certain that we're going to
- 31:11be back in business by August. No, and I told him that.
- 31:15But I said this, look until you hear otherwise, this is the plan.
- 31:18And if something changes, I will let you know immediately. Certainty,
- 31:22no clarity. Yes, So in review. Here's our three big ideas in
- 31:29review. In times of disruption, remember your voice is more important than your
- 31:33words. In times of disruption, your presence is more important than your presentation.
- 31:38And in times of disruption, clarity is the next best thing, the
- 31:42next best thing to certainty. Now, before we go, I want to
- 31:47close with one more story. If you've ever visited with a friend or a
- 31:52family member, or maybe a parishioner who has lost a child, you know
- 31:57it is one of the most difficult environs in the world to step into,
- 32:00especially if it was a sudden or unexpected loss. There are no words,
- 32:07there are no solutions. But imagine this. Imagine having to walk into that
- 32:12environment twenty times to comfort twenty families on the same afternoon. This was the
- 32:21situation that President Obama found himself walking into by choice, right after the Sandy
- 32:27Hook Elementary School shootings back in twenty twelve in Newtown, Connecticut. You may
- 32:32remember, on December the fourteenth, a twenty year old broke into the school
- 32:37just after the doors had been locked and shot and killed twenty six people,
- 32:43including twenty children, before taking his own life. The oldest child was seven
- 32:51years old. Michelle Obama says it's the only time in eight years that President
- 32:55Obama actually requested her presence in the middle of the day, and in her
- 33:00memoir she said it was the darkest day in the White House for the two
- 33:04of them. She wrote this, She said, when I walked into the
- 33:07Oval office, Barack and I embraced silently that there was nothing to say.
- 33:13There were no words. And then she said this she says, as a
- 33:16fact guy, in that most of us. As a fact guy, she
- 33:20said her husband demanded to be fully briefed. He wanted all the details.
- 33:24Joshua Dubois was the spiritual adviser to the president at the time, and in
- 33:29his book The President's Devotional, he describes the Saturday morning he got word that
- 33:34the President ready for this, wanted to meet with each of the families of
- 33:37the victims, and afterwards to participate in an inner faith memorial service that would
- 33:43be televised. And then he said he wanted Joshua to go with him.
- 33:46Joshua describes what happened when they arrived at the school. This is what he
- 33:51wrote. He said, we prepared seven or eight classrooms for the families of
- 33:55the slain children, and teachers two or three families to a classroom. The
- 34:02President took a deep breath and stealed himself and went into the first classroom.
- 34:07And what happened next, I will never forget. Person after person received an
- 34:15engulfing hug from our commander in chief. He'd say, tell me about your
- 34:20son, tell me about your daughter, and then hold pictures of the loss
- 34:24beloved as their parents describe their favorite foods, their favorite television shows, and
- 34:30the sound of their laughter. Then for the younger siblings of those who had
- 34:36passed away, many of them two or three or four years old, too
- 34:38young to understand, the President would grab them, toss them, laughing up
- 34:45into the air, and then hand each of them a box of White House
- 34:49eminems. Then he said this in each room. I saw his eyes water,
- 34:57but he didn't break. And then he writes, And then the entire
- 35:01scene would repeat for hours, over and over and over again. Threw well
- 35:07over a hundred relatives of the fallen, each one equally broken and wrecked by
- 35:14the loss. Joshua went on to say that he and the President drove to
- 35:19Air Force One in silence, they flew home in silence, and that the
- 35:22President never spoke of those sacred meetings and those sacred pup moments in public.
- 35:30Now here's why I tell you that. First of all, it takes away
- 35:37all of our excuses, doesn't it. That day President Obama was the pastor
- 35:42in chief, he was the shepherd in chief. He showed his humanity,
- 35:47He took off the mantle of authority. He set it aside. Why because
- 35:52that's what the moment called for. Now, think about it. He could
- 35:55have gotten away with a handwritten note to each family or a call, or
- 36:00he could have met with all the families at one time and expressed his condolences.
- 36:04But he didn't. He waded in because that's what the moment called for.
- 36:08That's what leaders do. Now it goes without saying, but I'm gonna
- 36:15say it anyway, Regardless of what we will be called upon to do in
- 36:19the next few months, it will pale in comparison. Right, and as
- 36:24important and as busy as you are. Again, his decision and his courage
- 36:30that day removed. All our excuses. Come on. We're leaders, right,
- 36:37like President Obama or President Bush or Cheryl Samberg or Tim Cook or Cheryl
- 36:42Batchelder or Larry Murlow or Tony Dungee. I could go on and on and
- 36:45on. We're fact people, right, We're progress people, We're strategy people,
- 36:49we're answered people. But in times of disruption, none of that matters.
- 36:54It's not what people need most. They need our humanity. They need
- 36:59to know that we care in times of disruption. That is our job description.
- 37:05We won't do it the same, We certainly won't do it perfectly,
- 37:07but do it we must for such a time as this. You are the
- 37:13leader at home, at work, in the community. You're not always going
- 37:17to know what to say. You're not always going to know what to do.
- 37:21You are not always going to have the answers. You can't predict or
- 37:24control the future, all of which is okay. But what you can do
- 37:29is show up, speak up. Disruption really isn't our enemy. Disruption is
- 37:34our opportunities that don't miss it. Now, more than ever, people need
- 37:37clarity because there's so little certainty. Now, more than ever, your voice
- 37:43is more important than your words, and Now more than ever, your presence
- 37:46is more important than your presentation. Now, more than ever, the world
- 37:51needs leaders. The world needs you. Thank you,