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10-29-26 Hour 1- Double Diparoo? Double WINaroo!/The Chiefs are Fool's Gold/Can the Rockies copy the Brewers? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi, and Kane On Demand.
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  Speaker 2: Listen live every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on
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  Speaker 3: Hey, this is Nikola Jokic. Tonight, we got Double D Peru.
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  Speaker 2: Murray, jump pass to the corner. Christian, three for the
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  Speaker 2: game winner.
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  Speaker 1: Yes!
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  Speaker 2: Nuggets lead it by 15 points with 108 left to
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  Speaker 2: go in the game. And this thing is over. A
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  Speaker 2: triple-double for Nikola Jokic, his second one of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Final tonight for the Big Easy, Denver 104, Pelicans 91.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, this is Gabe Landeskog of the Avalanche. Tonight, we've
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  Speaker 2: got a double dip.
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  Speaker 1: Down low for Landeskog. Back out there. Landeskog. Caves. Lines up.
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  Speaker 1: Swart back door. Landeskog scores! Oh, captain!
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  Speaker 2: My captain!
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  Speaker 1: Three seconds. Two seconds. One second. Sound the horn. The
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey winning streak started with the avalanche.
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  Speaker 2: It ends with the avalanche.
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  Speaker 1: With a 5-2 win on home ice. Guys. Do it
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  Speaker 1: with me.
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  Speaker 5: In through our nose, please. In through the nose.
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  Speaker 1: In through the nose. Out through the mouth.
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  Speaker 5: Does that feel better?
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  Speaker 2: Do we all feel better now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. A little bit better.
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  Speaker 2: We all feel better.
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  Speaker 5: A nice little couple of games from the Avs and
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  Speaker 5: the Nuggets last night. Just sort of woosah the beginning
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  Speaker 5: of this season a little bit. Just calm down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm watching the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 1: Got a head rush doing that.
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  Speaker 5: You want to do it again?
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  Speaker 1: Do another one? No, that's not my head.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Vic, you want to get high?
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  Speaker 1: Want to get high?
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  Speaker 2: Want to get high? Hey, I was watching the Nuggets
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  Speaker 2: before our game began. I had plenty of time on
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  Speaker 2: my hands in the pregame show.
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  Speaker 5: Sounds like you're working hard.
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  Speaker 2: Hardly working. So they build up this big lead. And
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  Speaker 2: then I just have to watch it dwindle. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be honest with you, Vic. Watching it dwindle
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  Speaker 2: down to what? Eventually five points during the course of
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  Speaker 2: my game. I had a little pit in my stomach moment.
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  Speaker 2: And then Jamal hits a three. Then Jamal finger rolls.
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  Speaker 5: And then Christian Brown started knocking down shots.
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  Speaker 2: And then CB does his thing. And then Mark, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're okay.
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  Speaker 5: But, Vic, we all know.
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  Speaker 1: I arrived at an observation last night, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: And do not let me forget to bring up that observation.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I will.
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  Speaker 1: At which I arrived.
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  Speaker 5: But, Vic, although I understand what you're saying, Moj. I
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  Speaker 5: think I just kind of understand in basketball that's going
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  Speaker 5: to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Big leads.
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  Speaker 5: There's going to be a run and they come back.
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  Speaker 5: Getting it down to five was a little too uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 5: but I just kind of understood it. I just think
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  Speaker 5: overall for both teams, I guess we can start with
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  Speaker 5: the Nuggets here. It just looked like for both, that's
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  Speaker 5: the style of game that you want to see from them.
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  Speaker 5: And I have an observation too, Vic, but you go
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  Speaker 5: ahead and you give me yours first.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, they don't win that game without Jamal Murray rescuing
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  Speaker 1: them on many offensive possessions. I know that Nicola got
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  Speaker 1: a triple-double 16th against New Orleans, 200th of his career.
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  Speaker 1: Interviewed him after the game. He was clearly happy. Defensively,
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  Speaker 1: they played marvelously. The last time they played New Orleans,
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  Speaker 1: they gave up 135. So, yeah, the defensive effort was there.
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  Speaker 1: But nobody wins that game from the Nugget side unless
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  Speaker 1: Jamal Murray carries, at times, the second unit. He was
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  Speaker 1: in there with four guys that he's never played with before.
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  Speaker 1: And the observation I have is pretty simple. They need
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  Speaker 1: another guard who can create his own shots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have that on the roster. They need a
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  Speaker 1: guard who, when the clock is ticking, when the shot
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  Speaker 1: clock is about to expire, can get to the hole,
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  Speaker 1: can do stuff. They need one of those. They need
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  Speaker 1: one of those. They need another one of those.
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  Speaker 5: Is that an eventually, when he gets healthy, Julian Strothern?
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  Speaker 1: Could be. Could be. Need consistency from that position. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that is the biggest need right now for
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  Speaker 1: the Nuggets moving forward. I was watching closely, and I
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  Speaker 1: can't tell you. Listen, Jamal Murray catches a lot of heat.
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  Speaker 1: He does, right?
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  Speaker 2: He's a good player.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. But does he not catch a lot
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  Speaker 1: of heat?
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  Speaker 5: Of course, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Defensively, there's a lot of heat. But I can't tell
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  Speaker 1: you how many times I'm watching the shot clock go down.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, geez. Oh, geez. And then Jamal just
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  Speaker 1: finds a way to score.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Jamal Murray made a shot. It's almost like a hot potato,
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  Speaker 1: hot potato, hot potato. Oh, here, you take it. And
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  Speaker 1: then he finds a way to score. They need somebody
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  Speaker 1: else who can create their own offense from the guard position.
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  Speaker 1: They need one more player like that.
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  Speaker 5: Christian's not a creator. He's just not. If he's, look,
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  Speaker 5: if Christian's knocking down his threes.
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  Speaker 1: Christian knocked down threes last night and made some shots. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was, they don't win that game unless Christian makes
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  Speaker 1: some of those shots last night.
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  Speaker 5: Those were the daggers. Those were the daggers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Can I give you my observation? Because this to me
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  Speaker 5: has been more and more obvious over, I would say
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  Speaker 5: like the last year and a half.
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  Speaker 1: But do you agree with my observation or not?
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: If I say that to you, And it was very apparent, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I sit there in silence like a zombie.
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  Speaker 1: And it just, I'm watching this and I'm like, God,
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  Speaker 1: who else can they turn to to do that right now?
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  Speaker 1: And there's really no one else there that can do that.
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  Speaker 2: That is correct. But I'm hoping that when Julian Strother
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  Speaker 2: gets healthy, and hopefully it's sooner rather than later.
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  Speaker 1: You're pinning a lot of hope on a guy who
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  Speaker 1: hasn't done it consistently.
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  Speaker 5: What's our other options here, Vic?
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  Speaker 2: Let me put it this way then, Vic. Okay. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I am. And let's just say for your sake and
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  Speaker 2: your argument, I am. The hell else you going to do?
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  Speaker 5: He's my Jonah Coleman.
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  Speaker 2: You ain't going to make a deal, Holmes.
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  Speaker 5: They can't make a deal.
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  Speaker 1: They can't make a deal. In the second apron.
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  Speaker 2: You got nobody else. You can go to the G,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, and try to find somebody to come and gun. But, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: the reality smacked me in the face. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: your face today looks like 10 pounds of meat. You
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  Speaker 2: look like you had New Orleans meat.
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  Speaker 1: I feel great. That's weird. I feel really good today.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I will say there's something in my shower.
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  Speaker 5: Enough with your shower. Don't do it.
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  Speaker 2: There's something in my shower that makes my eyes burn.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody cares. I do care about this, though, the usage
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  Speaker 1: rate of Jamal Murray, too, the amount of time he's
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  Speaker 1: putting on the court right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was out there a lot last night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So, again, I've got to get that clarified here.
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  Speaker 1: Great game from the Nuggets. It's funny how these teams
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  Speaker 1: reflect each other, isn't it? I'm watching the Nuggets. I'm like, okay, nice.
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  Speaker 1: Defense needed that. And then I look at the abs score.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, nice, needed that. So I was watching
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  Speaker 1: a little bit when they were down 1-0, and then
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  Speaker 1: I had to focus on my game. What happened after that?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so hang on a second. With the Avs, I'll
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  Speaker 5: save my Nuggets observation for later.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine.
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  Speaker 5: I want to start here, Moj, because I think that
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  Speaker 5: the Avs, they played a game that fit their style
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  Speaker 5: a lot better, too. It was back to the normal,
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  Speaker 5: we outshoot the opponent by a lot stuff, and... When
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  Speaker 5: they put pucks on net, it might take a minute
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  Speaker 5: for you to get there, but you will eventually break
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  Speaker 5: through because you're too good not to. Frustrating thing is,
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  Speaker 5: you get a goal on the power play from Landy
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  Speaker 5: to open up your scoring. Nice little tap in from him.
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  Speaker 5: Nathan McKinnon's willingness to get pissed and just throw the
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  Speaker 5: puck into traffic on a power play is killing me.
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  Speaker 5: It's killing me. I don't care if.
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  Speaker 2: He gets frustrated.
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  Speaker 5: You can't get frustrated to where you just fire it
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  Speaker 5: at four different guys in the wrong uniform hoping it
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  Speaker 5: makes it through all those sticks. Far be it for
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  Speaker 5: me to question a former Hart Trophy winner and one
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  Speaker 5: of the best players on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know where that puck was going last night
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  Speaker 2: because it wasn't like Marty Natchez was lining up for
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  Speaker 2: a one-timer on a seam pass, you know, across the ice.
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  Speaker 2: That being said... Vic, what they did last night is
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  Speaker 2: they had a good first period. They were down 1-0
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  Speaker 2: because the pass was picked off by Connor Brown. And
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  Speaker 2: it was a bad luck play because the pass went
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  Speaker 2: off the skate blade of McCarr and through the 5-hole
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  Speaker 2: of Mackenzie Blackwood. Unlucky. That's an unlucky bad break play. However,
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  Speaker 2: you also gave up a 2-on-1 shorthanded. Okay, so you
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  Speaker 2: put yourself in a position for the puck to do
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  Speaker 2: stupid things.
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  Speaker 5: Well, here's my thought, though, Moe. People are probably looking
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  Speaker 5: for McKinnon to put the puck on net, and so
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  Speaker 5: they're bearing forward, and when you throw it across the middle,
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  Speaker 5: would you throw your baby across the slot with him? Whatever.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: It's that thing. What was the baby thing? The puck
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  Speaker 2: is your baby. How long ago was.
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  Speaker 1: That, Nelly?
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  Speaker 2: A couple years ago?
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  Speaker 5: When people have their momentum going forward and you throw
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  Speaker 5: it into traffic and traffic goes the other way, it's
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  Speaker 5: really hard to.
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  Speaker 2: Stop and get back. Yeah, because the penalty killers are
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  Speaker 2: fleeing the zone anyway, right? They're already high in the zone,
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  Speaker 2: putting pressure on the power play. When it's picked off
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  Speaker 2: like that, they're jumping out of the zone immediately and
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  Speaker 2: they're off and on their way.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Vic, would you throw your baby across the
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  Speaker 5: top of your own crease to a guy on the
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  Speaker 5: other side with a guy charging down the slot? Would
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  Speaker 5: you do that?
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  Speaker 1: I've done it several times. Two of my three babies have.
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  Speaker 1: faced that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. But after that, it was continuing to pepper Jake Allen,
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  Speaker 5: get pucks on net. You got rebounds. Like, I thought,
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  Speaker 5: there's nobody better on this team, Moj. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: care what people think about Brent Burns. We know he's
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  Speaker 5: a little long in the tooth. He's maybe not as
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  Speaker 5: good as he was a decade ago. Here's one thing
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  Speaker 5: that Brent Burns is going to do. That puck's on
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  Speaker 5: his stick. You know where it's going?
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  Speaker 2: It's going to fire him.
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  Speaker 5: It's going at the net.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 5: And that's how you got the Kadri goal.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly right. And so what they did is they just
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  Speaker 2: stayed with it last night, Vic. Look, Landis Skog scores
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  Speaker 2: a power play goal. The Avalanche, honestly, their first period
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  Speaker 2: was a good period. But from the start of the
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  Speaker 2: second on, they dominated this game. I mean, absolutely dominated.
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  Speaker 2: They got the equalizer, and Jake Allen, despite giving up five,
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  Speaker 2: played well. Then you get the Cattery goal from Walgreens
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  Speaker 2: to have him back in the lineup. Parker Kelly's goal
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  Speaker 2: was bitching. Excuse me. I mean, that's in a positive way.
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  Speaker 1: That's like.
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  Speaker 5: Hell of a stretch pass from Burns again.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely it was. A home run, a home run head
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  Speaker 2: man pass to Parker Kelly who comes in, wades into
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  Speaker 2: the top of the circle, looking to dish to a trailer,
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  Speaker 2: and then just rips it short side. Caught Allen completely
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  Speaker 2: by surprise. It was totally awesome. Then Nate does what
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  Speaker 2: Nate does. I mean, I don't know how.
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  Speaker 2: Johnny Lyle's made the point last night. Look, Natchez, or
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  Speaker 2: not Natchez, Pesci and Luke Hughes are two pretty damn
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  Speaker 2: good skating defensemen. He blew their doors off. Yep. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how this guy in two strides is at top speed,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how he does it. But either way, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: they dominated from that point on. It was a terrific performance.
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  Speaker 2: First time this season the Devils had been outshot. First time.
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  Speaker 2: And the Avs doubled them up 44-22. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it shows you, you do what you need to do
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  Speaker 2: against a team playing in the back-to-back. You skate them
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  Speaker 2: out of the barn. And that's what happened.
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  Speaker 5: I think for both teams, it was a game that
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  Speaker 5: resembled the teams that we hope to see.
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  Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, and what you expect to see. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I don't expect the Nuggets to hold every opponent to
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  Speaker 1: under 100 points. I don't expect that. I do expect
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  Speaker 1: intensity and energy on that side. And you saw it
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  Speaker 1: from the get-go last night. They were just much more
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  Speaker 1: active on the defensive side. Nikola said it after the game.
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  Speaker 1: He got really into it, by the way. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you have that interview I did with him
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  Speaker 1: after the game, Nelly. But he was like really... For him,
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  Speaker 1: even his own self-evaluation of defense... He's turned his cause
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  Speaker 1: now to becoming a better defender or at least attempting that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And that applies to his whole team.
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  Speaker 5: Was Trevin Brazil picking? I was trying to watch both
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  Speaker 5: games at once. Was he picking guys up full court sometimes?
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  Speaker 1: Man, that dude got energy, man. Yeah. Energy. Was he
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  Speaker 1: picking guys up full court? On occasion.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, on occasion.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they would have him, the two rookies who,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like are Energizer rabbits.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They play defense like madmen.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: They're just right in you.
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  Speaker 5: That's exactly what they should be doing.
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  Speaker 1: Right up in you. Bryce Hopkins was just right up
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  Speaker 1: in guys.
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  Speaker 5: Can you imagine, by the way, if you're taking a
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  Speaker 5: ball after a made bucket and you're trying to go
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  Speaker 5: down the court and you have 6'10 Trevin Brazil, who's
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  Speaker 5: also super athletic, standing in front of you? It's going
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  Speaker 5: to be a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the other nightmare is having to defend Zion when
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  Speaker 1: he starts pounding away. He did that a couple times.
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  Speaker 1: a couple times last night, guys. But he got mad
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  Speaker 1: and he did that pound and ground and pound. That's
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  Speaker 1: what he was doing. Ground and pound. Pound. Good luck.
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  Speaker 5: Let's quickly go to at least some of this chat
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  Speaker 5: that you had with Nikola after the game.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Nikola, last time you played this team, you gave up
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  Speaker 6: 135 points. The defense was the difference tonight. How'd you
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  Speaker 6: play such great deep?
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  Speaker 3: I think mostly that I think that's number one in
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  Speaker 3: the pain points. So we kind of readjusted a little
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  Speaker 3: bit and they were still getting to the paint, but
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  Speaker 3: I think we did a good job opening the game
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  Speaker 3: and putting our rhythm and our pace. And I think
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  Speaker 3: we controlled the game the whole time, even in that
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  Speaker 3: little stretch when they trailed, I think, five. But I
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  Speaker 3: think we controlled the game the most of the game.
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  Speaker 6: You started another rookie tonight. How are these rookies coming along?
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, personally, I believe in them and I
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  Speaker 3: think they have a lot to offer. They're in a
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  Speaker 3: new role, new position, everything is new, so we need
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  Speaker 3: to give them a little bit of time. But I
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  Speaker 3: think the energy is there, the focus is there. they
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  Speaker 3: want to do the right thing. I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: most important thing.
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  Speaker 6: Congratulations tonight on your 200th triple-double, 16 against New Orleans.
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  Speaker 6: You debuted in the NBA 11 years ago tonight. Do
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  Speaker 6: you remember how many points you scored in that game?
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  Speaker 7: Two.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember where it came?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right hook.
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  Speaker 1: Very nicely done, man. It's been a while, and you've
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  Speaker 1: come a long way.
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  Speaker 5: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: So he referenced the rookies, and I'm telling you, having
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  Speaker 1: a jumping Jack lined up next to him defensively. So
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  Speaker 1: they did it with Trevin Brazil to start. And then
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  Speaker 1: when they made their rotations, they brought in Bagley Jr. So.
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  Speaker 1: Bagley looks all right. I like him. So they played
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  Speaker 1: two bigs next to Joker for parts of that game.
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  Speaker 5: Really smart.
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  Speaker 1: That alone, that alone, I think shores up a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the defensive issues because there are shot blockers behind him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 1: Having Marvin Bagley stagger with him and then having Trevin
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  Speaker 1: Brazil next to him. So that's the observation I made.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get back to this in a moment. It is
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  Speaker 5: an Avs ticket Thursday. So stay tuned. Keywords on the
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  Speaker 5: 20s every single hour. I'm going to be at number
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: 38 in Rhino tonight. starting at six for green Bay
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: versus Carolina. You can enjoy Breckenridge brewery beer, plus a
• 16:02
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• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: Ready?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Don't settle for tricks. Come get some treats with me
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: at number 38.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm a bit of an NFC North expert myself. Uh,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: So anyway, come to number 38 tonight.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: 6 o'clock.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: I'll be there. Let's party. First keyword of the 7
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: o'clock hour comes next.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Batman!
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: This is like Adam West Batman. It's an Avs Ticket Thursday.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Your chance to win tickets to Saturday night's Avs and
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: Flames game at Ball Arena. Your keyword for this hour
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: is Batman.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Why? Because it's Halloween.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: So text Batman in your first and last name to 303-504-0925.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Wear your Halloween costume or your favorite Av sweater and
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: enjoy the game because guess what? Trick-or-treating is going to
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: be happening at Ball Arena. Free candy courtesy of King Soopers.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: So get yourself out there. Halloween night. Avs and flames,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: but the key word is Batman.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I don't have a costume yet. Everybody's going to be something.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I don't have a costume and I don't know what
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Don't, don't, hey. Let me advise you on this one.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Let me be your personal advisor. Don't bend, don't fold
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: to that peer pressure. If you don't want to dress up,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: don't dress up.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I don't mind dressing up. I just don't have anything.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I haven't put the time and the effort into.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Well, then don't do it.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I got an idea.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than having to play dress up because
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: everybody else wants to play dress up.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: Why don't you go as a decrepit old man withering
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: away Who's hanging on by a final thread.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: What was the line I used? What was the line
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I used to describe him?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Help me out. Brittle haired.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Brittle haired.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Brittle haired.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Why don't you go as a brittle haired pansy?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A brittle haired. It's funny.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: I thought I saw one of those in the ass
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: broadcast last night.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: It was Kiefer, by the way.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Mosher, why don't you dress up as Matt Damon from
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Good Will Hunting? You already look like him anyway. Yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm going to figure something out. Probably today. Figure
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: something out.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: He actually says go as Joe Dirt. That'd be really funny.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Do the mullet with the handlebar.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: But the odds of finding a Joe Dirt thing now are.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: There's literally a Spirit Halloween that is a Yeah. A
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: door across. They share the wall with us.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Just like a piece of crap to you.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll offer a discount since we're neighbors.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they will.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: I got a good name for this car.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Rusty.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: That was Kid Rock, right?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that line was, but yeah. Mojo,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: why don't you dress up as the guy who hit
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: your car?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: You fix it. Jeez.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: So we'll get back to the Nuggets and Avs in
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: a moment. It was funny. I was talking about this
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Broncos and Chiefs game during the appetizer. And you know
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: what I found out? I'm just redoing the show from
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: the week leading into the opening game of the season.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: And I know the results of that first week were
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: not in your favor.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: It's because you didn't tackle, not because you're bad.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. You played. Can we all agree
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: on this? Defensively, the opening week of the season against
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: the Chiefs was the worst defensive performance the Broncos have
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: had since they gave up 70 to the Dolphins.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It just looked awkward. Yeah, it did. It was something
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that we hadn't seen.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were at the point of attack. They just
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: didn't bring anybody to the ground.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: But here's my takeaway. And I don't care how this sounds.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: And you might think, oh, Brett, you sound crazy.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs only putting up 31 points in that game,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: despite you not being able to do the basic fundamental
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: football thing of tackling, is an indictment on the Chiefs.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: They should have put up 70, like the Miami Dolphins did.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: And I've been saying it forever. I think the Chiefs
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: are a good, not great team, despite their 5-1 record.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: And here's why. Look at who the Chiefs have played
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: this year. Let's do the old college football analysis of
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: a professional football team.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: What? Who beat whom?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Who beat whom? Who beat whom?
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: So they beat the Broncos 31-10 in that opening week,
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: but we all know that was just a bizarre game.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: The following week, they play the Colts. The Colts are
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: not any good and haven't been all year. They beat
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: them 33-30. The next week, they beat the Dolphins 24-10.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Then the Raiders 30-27. Then the Then the Chargers, 22-6.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Then they played the Seahawks, who are a good football team,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: but they were reeling. They were a 500 team, 3-3
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: going into that game.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: They couldn't move the ball.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I truly think that's going to be the case this week.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: It's amazing how confident I feel in the game this weekend.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: And a lot of it has to do with the
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Broncos being at home because they're really good at home.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: But if you're able to shut down Kenneth Walker, and
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: in the Broncos' case, that means tackle him.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Just tackle him.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: I don't think the Chiefs have requisite offensive pieces to
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: score enough to beat you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. I guess my only fear
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: is this, is that Kenneth Walker was completely shut down
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: by Seattle, his former team. Completely shut down. Now, can
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you shut him down two weeks in a row? Because
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: he's obviously had a very good start to the season.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I think the answer is yes, because the Broncos' defense
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: is just that good. But if he's going to have a, quote,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: special kind of year, then the Chiefs are going to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: find a way to uncork him this week as opposed
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: to what happened to him last week. So we'll see.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: We'll see. But, again, are you going to keep him to, what,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: 36 yards against Seattle, something crappy like that?
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, 14 carries.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if that's the case, I mean, are you
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: going to keep him under 80 yards? I think the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: answer is yeah. I really do think the answer is yes.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Tackle him. Just make a tackle. That's it. I mean,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the amount of yards he got after contact in that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: game was downright historic. I can't remember the numbers we read.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: We were like, what? Do you remember that? Do you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: remember the yards after contact?
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: I think the number was 28 missed tackles in a
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: single football game, which feels impossible if you're not playing
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: in Pop Warner. Now, this is Nick Benito talking about that,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: saying Vance Joseph, uh, Clockwork oranged us and pried our
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: eyes open and made us watch all of the tape
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: from that first week.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: I mean, BJ was like the main one. I mean,
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: he's still like, damn, he wants to throw up every
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: time he has to look back at that week one film.
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: So it's because he knows that's not our type of
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: football that, you know, he's used to seeing it. He
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: wants us to be as prepared as possible, whether it's
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: tackling this week and being able to get our bodies
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: on guys in practice. And I think he'll have us
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: ready to play for sure.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: What was that debrief like after week one with DJ?
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: It wasn't good, I'll tell you that much. I mean,
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: it's like X's and O's, he gets it. But when
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: it comes to just physicality and putting your body on somebody,
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: he's not letting that go. And I don't think he
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: will be until we're able to show that against his
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: team this week.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: That's the thing that we talked about, though, after that
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: first week.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You guys remember?
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: For all the rushing yards and all the missed tackles,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: the first contact on Kenneth Walker in that game averaged
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: behind the line of scrimmage.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Like, they were there. They just couldn't tackle.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: He runs so well laterally. I am a little worried, though,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: on the availability of Zach Allen, who has been limited.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He didn't participate in practice yesterday. I don't know what
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: what the prognosis is. He says it wasn't a big deal.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It's his hamstring. And we all know by now in sports,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: hamstrings are always a bigger deal than people think.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Always.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I guess the good news is, is that Sertan was back.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. At practice. But I'm talking about the interior of
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that defense where it all starts. Right. It all starts there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And he's, Vic, you're right. He's a wrecking ball. He,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: in addition to.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I think he's the most underrated player on the team.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Very well could be. In addition to. And that's why
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: he got paid, by the way. Because the Broncos also
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: recognize what this guy does on the interior to take
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: pressure off everybody else. In addition to being a guy
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that is a good player in the middle and can
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: make plays and get sacks from a nose tackle position
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and so on, or whatever you want to call him,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: he alleviates a lot of stuff for other guys for
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: them to do their job even more effectively. So, yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I would concur with you.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: The guys not at practice yesterday are some big names.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Three players. Three dudes didn't practice. It was Zach Allen,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: it was Hufanga, and it was Jalen Waddle. Those three.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: And I think we got the news yesterday that Jalen
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Waddle is probably going to be questionable heading into this game.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: That's going to be his game designation. The guys who
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: are limited, Bowles was limited with a hip, and Mims
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: was limited with an ankle. Everybody else was a full practice.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Mims, when are we talking to our boy
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald again?
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Today at 9.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: What was that exchange he had with Sean Payton about Mims?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I heard he had a funny exchange.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Well, Sean Payton did the thing of, we've got to
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: find a way to get Marvin Mims of football more,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: and Legge did the follow-up of, you've.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Said that a lot. That's what he did. Do we
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: have that cut?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I heard it was pretty funny, and I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: love the fact that Legge threw that back at him
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: just to hear what he would have to say, because
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: he's exactly right. We have heard that for the last
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: four years. We've heard it from everybody. Gotta give Mims
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: more touches. Because when he touches, he does damage with it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Does great things with it. So touch it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Well, with Waddle, here's the thing, man. I'm telling you,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: if Waddle can't go, obviously that hurts. He's your best
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: wide out. But if he can't, mark my words, if
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: you do the prop bet thing in the NFL, you
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: bet Marvin Mims over on receiving yards and put your
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: house on it. Because when multiple guys at wide receiver
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: get hurt and Mims is forced to step into a
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: bigger role, Mims gets you 115 yards.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I've seen this a thousand times. It's this. Gotta give
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Marvin more football. You got to give me the football more.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: More touches from Marvin Mims. Hey, Lil Jordan. How you doing?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: How you been? Haven't seen you in a while. Anyway,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: get in there and you're going to get 10 targets.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: No, Moj.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, Brady, that's the way it works.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: No, Moj.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Go back to the Bills playoff game. They started that
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: game with Troy Franklin and Pat Bryan in. Bryan gets
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: a concussion. Troy Franklin has something else happen.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: That was a one-off.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: And then Marvin Mims enters the game and he has
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: nine catches for 100 yards.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Immediately.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Immediately.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Because when he's forced to play, he plays well. This
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: is the kind of thing where Lil Jordan, you don't
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: see him for weeks, and all of a sudden he
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: jumps in and he's all over the field.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: What's the most likely scenario for this weekend as far
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: as what the Chiefs offense will do? Like if you
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: give me a range of points that they're going to score,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: what do you think that range is?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I would say the range is anywhere from 18 to 25.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I think that's high.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Do you really?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I think it's like 14 to 21.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't think, I.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Mean, I can see, I can see it, but again,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You're, you're not valuing Zach Allen's role on this team.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: True.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Zach can't go. That's a big deal. It's a much
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: bigger deal than people will anticipate. I, I really believe
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that's a difference maker like no other because we've all acknowledged,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: as good as they are in the secondary, and they're great,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they're deep, it starts up front, and that dude eats.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: You're right, Vic. That is subject to change if Zach
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Allen cannot go. Now, this is the back and forth
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: that you were talking about between Legge and Sean Payton.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: You know, he continues to have those touches and then
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: where you want to even get him more touches. That's
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: sometimes a challenge, but certainly he's deserving.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: You say that a lot, Sean.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: What?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: To get Marvin more touches.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: What's the barrier?
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Well, sometimes it's coverage, right? And then, you know, it's
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: trying to find those personnel groupings where, you know, we've
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: got a number of guys that are starting to, that
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: are healthy and playing well. So hopefully we can find
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: those opportunities.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I know what it is. He just can't say it publicly.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: He knows what it is too.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: You know what it is.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: He doesn't block?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: No.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Oh. This quarterback's got to throw the ball to him. Well,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that applies to every wide receiver. He wanted to say that.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: He wanted to say that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Look, he can say that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: He wanted to say that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: But in the case of Mims.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I don't think that it's totally on Bo Nix not
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: throwing the football. Talking this year specifically, maybe that's the case.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Really? How many targets does he have?
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: But that's every wide out this year.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I understand, but I mean, you've got to get the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: ball in your hands.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying, though, is Marvin Mims has been here
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: for Four seasons. Like, it's... He's had plenty of time
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: over the last, what's 365 days times four? Whatever that number.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Is.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: 1,500, 1,600 days. Whatever the number is. He's had a
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: lot of time to try and get targets.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Well, it's either.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I listen to that exchange.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: You say that a lot, Sean.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I do.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: It's... Either you can or you won't.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: You know what, Moshe? I got to cut down on
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: these pouches that I throw in my mouth all the time.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You say that a lot.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I know. I know. I really do. I know.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I have to. Yeah, I say that a lot. But
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: I do have to. I'm just saying I have to
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Either you can't or you won't. It's one of those two.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Because when everybody's healthy, I'm sure Sean Payton looks at it. Man,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I've got a lot better options than Marvin. Okay? But
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: when everybody's not healthy... My options dwindle, and then Marvin
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: can get more touches.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I'll die on this hill.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: I'll die on this hill, Moshe. If Marvin Mims was 6'2,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: he would get the football.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: He would. Marvin Mims is also going to be someplace
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: else next year, I think.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Guys, you've got to throw.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Him the ball, man. For Marvin Mims, and we love
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims on this show, do we not?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: He's been on the program. We like him.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I know. I'll read for you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that for his future, he's
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: got to be able to make some money for him.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And somebody's going to look at him and go, I
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: got just the plan for you, brother. And they're going
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: to put him in. They're going to throw him the ball.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Targets. Targets on the Denver Broncos pass-catching core. Jalen Waddell
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: has the most. R.J. Harvey second. Corlin Sutton third. Evan
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Engram fourth. Pat Bryan fifth. And then Marvin Mims, number
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: six on that list.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Now, you guys, you guys want to put this all
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: on the coach. You know, I know Marvin Mims has
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: run more than 11 routes. I know that to be
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a fact.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: You can look at his snaps, though. He's not on
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: the field very often, Vic.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Don't start counting.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: He's not, and he hasn't been his entire career here.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: You were asking about the Kansas City offense. You realize
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that they're currently sixth in the National Football League in
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: yards per game at over 380? They average on the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: ground 142.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Not even doing it through the air. It's where the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: points come in that there's a little bit of a disconnect.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: They average about 24 per game. And I feel fine.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I do, too.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: We'll get back to this in a bit.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Vic, why do I feel so fine about Sunday? I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: feel fine.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but you don't look fine. Why are you...
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Cheeks are red.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm telling you, there's something in
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: my shower that makes my eyes burn.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Have you been fake baking?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Have I been fake baking? That's the dumbest thing I've
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: ever heard.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Of course he has. I once saw you bleach your
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: teeth with a cell phone.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that worked too. I'm going to throw some laundry
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: in the washing machine. I'm going to go to bed.
• 33:17
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• 33:25
  Speaker 2: What is it in my shower that makes my eyes burn?
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: I don't care. Last night.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I use crappy suave shampoo.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, when I said I don't care, I meant it.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I really meant it. Yeah, but other people may care.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Just because you're you doesn't mean that other people don't care.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I've never meant anything more in my life than I
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: don't care about your shower eyeballs. I really don't.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: It's like cool breeze suave or something.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I really don't give a f * * *.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Last night, as I have the abs and nuggets on,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I had the World Series on my phone. And Kreckman
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: spit out a number that I think is really, really
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: interesting relating to the Milwaukee Brewers winning the World Series
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: and what's happening here in Colorado.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: We'll get to it next.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: 2-1 pitch. Palacios.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Grounds won softly. Unshakable.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Unstoppable. And champions at last, the Milwaukee Brewers. What happened
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to this style of music?
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: This sounds like an.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Old commercial jingle that you would love to hear whenever
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: it's on TV.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Every franchise that's old or older has something like this.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Every one.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I think we should bring him back.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: There's an old budget song.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: You know what my favorite is?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Ramit. Ramit's great, but so is the Chargers song. The
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: San Diego Superchargers. That's my favorite.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on a second.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: This is old man. This is old man remembrance time.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Nelly. How about Houston Oilers? Houston Oilers. Houston Oilers,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: number one. That was a great frigging tune, bro. If
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: it had an Eddie Van Halen lick in it, I'd
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: put that on repeat 24-7.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Even though that World Series got done in five games,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: it was a good World Series between two really good
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: baseball teams. Brewers were just better. I mean, they're able
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: to throw Miz out there, and he got touched up
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: a little bit. In the postseason, but still, when you're
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: pumping 100, 300, four-mile-an-hour fastballs, just to watch him throw
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: a fastball and see a batter basically guessing before the
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: pitch is thrown whether he's going to swing at it
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: or not, because that's what your reaction time has to be.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Not the most personable dude. Whenever they interview him, he's like, uh...
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Bit of a weirdo.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Bit of a weirdo.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: But between him.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Who's the biggest weirdo in the last 20 years on
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the Hill?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Zach Granke.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Zach Granke.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Zach Granke is a frigzoid. But it was like they
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: had him. I don't know if you guys saw Aaron
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Ashby is somebody who he was like untouchable in the postseason.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Bullpen was untouchable. Historically good bullpen this season.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: They were so good. You know, the number that is
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: amazing to me about the Brewers. So in the postseason,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: they went 11 and two. They only lost two games
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: in the postseason. Yeah. Nine of those games, nine of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: those 11 wins, they were trailing.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing about the Brewers. Krekman threw out
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: this last night after they won the World Series. And
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: I do think that this is interesting. A lot of people,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: whatever they feel about the Monforts, I've heard a common
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: thing that I push back on because it's just not true.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: That the Monforts don't care... and they won't spend money.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: They spend money. The Montforts spend money on the Rockies.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: They do it poorly, but they spend money.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: We need a full season of KB.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Crackman said
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: in the last four years, the Milwaukee Brewers have spent
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: $ 527 million combined in payroll. They went to the playoffs
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: every year, and now they've won a World Series. In
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: that same time frame, the Rockies have spent.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: $ 571.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Million.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: $ 44 million more combined in the last four years than
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: the Brewers, but the Rockies have resulted in four consecutive
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: 100-loss seasons. It's about where you're spending it, and you
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: can look at the examples. Chris Bryant is something that
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: didn't make sense the day they signed him.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: We're hoping that the veteran slugger's Bryant.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I remember we were on the show. I don't know
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: if it was like when the news broke or the
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: next day, and we were like, this makes no sense.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: It's an older player whose body is breaking down on
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: a team that's not going to win very much here.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: What had happened just before that?
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: The Arnotto trade.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: So what they were trying to do.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: And Trevor Story.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: And Trevor Story as well. But what they were trying
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: to do, this is my guess. This is only an
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: educated guess. It's like, okay, well, we've got to kind
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: of keep the fan base happy. Who's left? But that
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't make anybody happy. I get that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: That part of it doesn't even make sense.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I understand, but I'm not saying their brains are working properly.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that that's what it felt like. Oh, okay, well,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: we have a former All-Star out there who, you know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: we can throw a bunch of money at and make
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: it look like we're still trying.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: But it's decisions like that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: That's what it felt like.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: It's decisions to, as much as we love Kyle Freeland,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Freeland was okay at best beyond 2018. All right, so.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Stop right there. Stop right there. What makes the Brewers
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: so impressive to me, this is a franchise, mind you,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that has been to the playoffs, let's see, eight of
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the last nine seasons they've been to the playoffs. I've
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: got this number in front of me. They've averaged over
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the last nine seasons, they've averaged 94 wins a season, okay?
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: So they've been good for a decade. Very good for
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a decade. They've been knocking on the door for a decade, right?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: They have the ability to reinvent themselves. I mean, look
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: at their roster. You walked closer than we did. They
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of 22, 23, and 24-year-olds out there.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Where did they draft Mizroski?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: This isn't a core group, Brett. This isn't a bunch
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of 30, 32-year-olds who've been together for 10 years. No,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: they reinvent themselves. And they're that good.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: But this is, here's how they do it, okay? I
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: know analytics is like a dirty word now in sports
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: because of, like, football and going forward on fourth down
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: or not taking field goals or, you know, whatever the
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: case is. It's like, oh, analytics is ruining X, Y,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: and Z. Or in basketball, it's all about the three-pointer.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Analytics have ruined this. You look at the teams that
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: were at the final stages this year. The Milwaukee Brewers,
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: the Tampa Bay Rays, the Cleveland Guardians. The Rays don't
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: spend money. I think they're 29th in payroll this year.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: The only team that didn't spend less was the Miami Marlins.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: The Guardians were 28th. They were in the ALCS. The
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: White Sox were 27th. They rank among the league's highest
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: in spending operationally The Milwaukee Brewers have roughly 250 personnel
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: people in the scouting and analytics departments.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: That's a lot.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: 250.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: That's a heck of a lot of peeps.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: The Tampa Bay Rays have over 100 in those departments
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: because they know this is where we win. We win
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: in the margins here, not with payroll. We win in
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: this aspect of it. And the Rockies have been habitually
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: on the lower end of that. And it's like, if
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: you aren't willing to spend the money, to a top
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: 10 level in this league, top five level in the league,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: you need to be able to identify what you need.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: And here's the good news. I think you've seen in
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: at least a small glimpse, Deep Podesta, pretty good at
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: identifying that talent. When somebody makes a trade for TJ Rumfield,
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: I don't even think the MLB network talked about the trade.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: They're like, whatever.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Turns out the guy's a player. God, you're... But this
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: is where... You're frying my bacon right now, though. You
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: understand that, right? Why? You're frying my bacon.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: For what reason?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Because they lost 104 games.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: But that's not what I'm talking about here.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: They were the worst team in baseball again.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? DePodesta found a needle in the haystack,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and he sucked. You're right, Moj.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: DePodesta didn't turn a team that's lost three consecutive 100 games, seasons.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: It's four now.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: He didn't turn them around to a playoff team in
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: one year.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: He's very guilty of that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Let me take that back.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: He's been there for a year.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: You know that, right?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me take that back, because that's my frustration
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: showing through. Vic, I'm sorry. I apologize. But you're like, well,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: they found T.J. Rumfield.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Bro, they still down the stretch bagged it and lost 104, bro.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: You aren't going to turn that around in a season
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: with a new guy.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: So then what are you trying to say?
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: Well, if you're listening, they need to expand that department
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: in the ways that the Rays and the Brewers do.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure I care anymore.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: I can't talk baseball with you because you just say
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: I don't care and then you shut down.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I do shut down.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Let the adults handle this. Thank you.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Brett.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: There are 20-something other teams that would love to model
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that approach, that consistency, whatever they're doing. I just think
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the model changes when you come to altitude. I've had
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: this conversation with you before, and I don't think you
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: acknowledge the altitude effect. That same model in Milwaukee, it's great.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Analytics be damned, it's great. I have all the damn
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: scouts and analysts you want, all that. You just have
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to bend it differently here at altitude. I've always believed that,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and I will believe that until I go to the grave.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: I understand that. Now, DePedestra has said he wants to
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: do things differently, especially in the pitching department, and that's why.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: No, you don't want— you have to do things differently. You
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: have to.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what— yes, that's what he's saying. But the reason
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: why— it' s not that I don't acknowledge what you say or
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: even— I don't disagree. I agree with you in this.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: My problem is the way you discuss it is, what's
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the point? It's never going to work. That's how it
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: sounds to me. And that I don't buy.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I don't buy that. And you're right, because it has worked.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've gotten to the postseason. Hell, they got
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: to a World Series. So clearly they've put it together
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: enough at times to get to the postseason occasionally over
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the years and then get to a World Series. It's
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: just the long-term... prognosis. What does that look like? Because
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I think Vic is correct. Eventually, for whatever reason, and
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: it's the altitude, but I'm not a geneticist and I'm
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: not a, you know, a body composition person. The arms
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: give out and give up eventually.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: You know what's crazy is Sensatella spent so much time here.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: He's traded mid-season. He goes to the Brewers. And I
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: just What is it like, do you think, going from
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: a team that's lost 100 games four consecutive seasons to
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: a team that won a World Series and you join them?
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what it's like. His role is
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: much smaller there than it was here. That's what it's like. Well,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: he's a reliever. I don't know. But it's not the same.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have the same. He's just one of many great. Oh, sure.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: But I've always wondered, like, if you're on a really
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: bad team and you get traded to a really good
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: team midseason, that team wins. How responsible do you feel
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: for like being part of that?
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, if you want to go
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: back to 2022 with the abs, I mean, look at
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the acquisitions they made.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: True.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, this.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Is my response. This is my response to Mark on
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the text line. Mark writes in, Vic, once again, complaining
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: about the altitude. Agree with Kaner on this one. We
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: have to do something. Am I complaining about the altitude?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Is that me complaining?
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: No, you're just dealing with reality.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: The reality is simple, Mark. I don't know where you live,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: but if you live here and you've been here, you
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: understand that pitching and hitting at altitude are a different
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: beast than doing so at sea level. They are. That's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: a fact. Science.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Do you recall Jeff Cirillo?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Science. So because of that fact, because it's different, you
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: have to scout differently. You have to Sometimes pitch differently.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: You have to recover differently. It's the truth. If it
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: weren't the truth, there would be a line of free
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: agent pitchers waiting to sign with the Colorado Rockies. Moshe,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: has it been easy for the Rockies to go get
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: free agent pitchers that are successful at all in this league?
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Do they run from the opportunity to come here? Yep.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Why do they do that, Moshe?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Because they know that their numbers are going to be
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: completely inflated and they're not going to get paid.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: So, Mark. When I say the altitude is a factor,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: just watch the games.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: We can get back to this later.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Always a factor.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Chad Brown is going to join us in just a
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: couple of minutes.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Stick around.