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RÔMULO MENDONÇA _ BULGARELLI - Podpah _1039 · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Superbet, you feel when it's super. Bate na mão pra
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  Speaker 1: saber que cê tá aqui. Bate na mão pra saber
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  Speaker 1: que cê tá aqui. Alô, Podpah. Vamos falar muito de
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  Speaker 1: NBA no Podpah, não é isso, Ricardo? É, a minha
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  Speaker 1: animação é por conta da NBA. NBA, Podpah, finais exclusivos
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  Speaker 1: no Amazon Prime.
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  Speaker 2: Narração brasileira das finais da NBA a partir do dia
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  Speaker 2: 3 de junho, só no Amazon Prime.
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  Speaker 1: Então, Podpah, agora NBA. Vamos pro episódio. NBA. Bate na
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  Speaker 1: mão pra saber que cê tá aqui. Gringos? Nunca entenderão.
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  Speaker 1: Guaraná Antarctica. Sente de torcer? É coisa nossa. Good Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another Podpah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask for applause.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Start the right way with young people I ask for
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  Speaker 3: applause that this one that this one and Gão how
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  Speaker 3: liked it man it's beautiful as always be welcome to
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  Speaker 3: learn to dress better as the days go by, thank.
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  Speaker 1: God, right, bro, are you okay, I'm fine, you're on Thursday, right,
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit left of 80,000 young
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  Speaker 4: mythical subscribers my.
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  Speaker 3: Dear Jesus two months a month we.
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  Speaker 1: Can Dependendo aí, consegue até antes. Vamos ver.
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  Speaker 4: Antes de apresentar os nossos convidados maravilhosos, como o Mítico
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  Speaker 4: Jovem bem disse, hoje é quinta-feira, o último podcast da semana.
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  Speaker 4: E o que estreou hoje foi o quê, Mítico Jovem?
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  Speaker 1: Ah, o Sala, né?
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  Speaker 4: O Sala do Podipa Records, onde a gente recebeu no
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  Speaker 4: primeiro Sala, Rael. our monster, who released 18 songs live
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  Speaker 4: for us in the living room, which is already all
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  Speaker 4: available on digital platforms, on Spotify. But please check out
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  Speaker 4: this audiovisual there on the Podpah Records channel, because it's
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  Speaker 4: the most beautiful and finest thing in the world. And
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  Speaker 4: that gringo that came to Brazil is very close to ours, okay?
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  Speaker 4: I swear to God, ours is much more beautiful, much better,
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  Speaker 4: the quality, oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy, huh? Congratulations to the whole team.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations to the whole Potipa Records team that did this project.
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  Speaker 1: It's out of the paper, it was hard work. For
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  Speaker 1: the love of God.
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  Speaker 4: Mítico Jovem, talk about Prime Video. Amazon Prime is the
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  Speaker 4: mansion of the NBA in Brazil, broadcasting more than 200
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  Speaker 4: exclusive games throughout the season with Romulo and Bulgarelli, our
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  Speaker 4: guests today. And from June 3rd, the NBA Finals take place.
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  Speaker 4: And in Brazil, remembering, it's only on Prime. Se você
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  Speaker 4: não assina ainda, não vacila. No Amazon Prime, além de NBA,
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  Speaker 4: você acompanha a Copa do Brasil e também acompanha o Brasileirão.
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  Speaker 1: Assine já.
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  Speaker 4: Pelo amor de Deus, vocês não sabem o que é
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  Speaker 4: ver uma transmissão do Corinthians com o Romulo e o Neto.
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  Speaker 1: Coisa boa, hein?
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  Speaker 3: Pelo amor de Deus. Ô, posso mostrar aqui o mimo
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  Speaker 3: que eles mandaram aqui?
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  Speaker 4: O que que eles mandaram?
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  Speaker 1: Aqui, ó. I thought you were going to deliver it.
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  Speaker 1: They found us. They agreed that we would deliver it
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  Speaker 1: at the end. Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Did you find it down there?
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  Speaker 1: So I was already anxious. I already showed it right here.
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  Speaker 4: I found it down there.
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  Speaker 1: This is an Alexa, man. And with... It looks like
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  Speaker 1: especially today.
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  Speaker 4: Prime Video, thank you very much. You always treated us
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  Speaker 4: We received five athletes.
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  Speaker 1: One.
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  Speaker 1: Won in the World Cup. You know?
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  Speaker 4: The first one was in 58, the first one.
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  Speaker 4: This one that is in my hand is from 70.
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  Speaker 1: This one is from 1994. It's the best.
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  Speaker 4: Do you like this one?
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  Speaker 1: This one is from 1958. I'm not in doubt. I
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  Speaker 1: keep seeing these cans every day. I don't know which
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  Speaker 1: one is the best.
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  Speaker 4: The one from 1958 is the only blue one because
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  Speaker 4: By the way, on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: There was a call.
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  Speaker 4: Did you like it?
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  Speaker 1: I liked it, man. I really liked it.
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  Speaker 4: Did you miss someone?
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  Speaker 1: Hugo Sousa. Yeah, right?
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  Speaker 3: I took a long time to say it, but it's
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  Speaker 3: because I was thinking about another one, but it's Hugo Sousa.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted him. I also wanted Hugo Sousa. We wanted you,
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  Speaker 1: my brother.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just because he's from Corinthians. I really wanted
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  Speaker 3: Augusto Souza. I thought it would be cool.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Brazil will win the Marrocos in the debut?
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  Speaker 1: For sure, brother. Neymar's goal. I don't know if it's going.
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  Speaker 4: To be that easy. I don't know if it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be that easy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be that easy.
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  Speaker 4: I also bet that Brazil will win. Sorry, but I
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  Speaker 4: bet that Brazil will win. But if I were to
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  Speaker 4: bet on something, I would bet on scanties. Because we're
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  Speaker 4: going to attack more and there's going to be more scanties.
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  Speaker 4: I would bet on that. By the way, the thing is...
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• 7:01
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  Speaker 1: This is the main of the briefing. Really? Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations. Receive with a lot of affection, make a lot
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  Speaker 4: of noise, drop the studio for our guests today, Mítico Jovem.
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  Speaker 1: They're back. And they're cute.
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  Speaker 4: They're beautiful. When they came, we were still in our
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  Speaker 4: first studio. Look at everything that happened in our lives.
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  Speaker 4: In our lives, in all of ours. Make a lot
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  Speaker 4: of noise, drop everything for our guests today. Romulo Mendonça
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  Speaker 4: and Bugarelli!
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  Speaker 1: Good! Let's go! I like that, I want applause. That's it. Good!
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing, brother? Everything's great. Perfect.
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  Speaker 2: You looked like Caldeirão do Mion, this vibration here.
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  Speaker 1: Did I? I thought it was very intense. Caldeirão do Mion, man! Really?
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  Speaker 1: I like the lack of control. Caldeirola! Caldeirola! I remember
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: the lack of control. Do you remember the lack of control?
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  Speaker 1: It was on Blunt, when it came out on MTV.
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  Speaker 1: That was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But then it changed to under control, because society wasn't prepared, right?
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  Speaker 1: Com um tempinho só com esse nome. Cara, que legal
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  Speaker 1: que você sabe dessas doideiras aí. Eu também acompanho. É
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: esse que tinha o Corvo, não era? Que era o Vesco. Exatamente.
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  Speaker 1: Fez muita merda aí.
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  Speaker 4: Não teve um bagulho do vaso sanitário, quebraram tudo. Sei lá,
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  Speaker 4: uma loucura com o Henrique Cristo.
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  Speaker 2: Então, o Corvo ficava bicando as discípulas do Henrique Cristo.
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  Speaker 1: Aquelas mulheres de azul, claro. E você sabe que o
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  Speaker 1: Corvo era o repórter Vesco. Que loucura isso. Foi nesse
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  Speaker 1: programa que o Henrique Cristo fez chover pão.
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  Speaker 4: Peraí.
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  Speaker 1: I swear to God. It was a miracle. Mignon said that.
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  Speaker 2: And they wanted to crucify him. So let's crucify him too.
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  Speaker 2: To have the extreme experience. And he was canceled.
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  Speaker 1: Romulo, you know that we have the Jararacas Podcast. Our
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: podcast that talks exclusively about NBA. We're already starting to
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  Speaker 1: do our show. It's because his dream... When the season ends,
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: we do some interviews. And then we take advantage and
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  Speaker 1: invite you two. But his dream is to take Henry
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  Speaker 1: Cristo there. I said, you're crazy. Henrique Cristo and Sérgio Malandro. Historic.
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  Speaker 1: The two together or each one to enjoy each other?
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  Speaker 1: That would be my question. Rita Cadillac too. Anão Pistolinha.
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  Speaker 1: Anão Pistolinha. There's a list. Anão Pistolinha. How do you
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: know Anão Pistolinha? He's a big fan. Pistolinha. He goes
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  Speaker 1: to the same church. Carona do Tédio. But he's a
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: big fan of Anão Pistolinha. Do you know Anão Pistolinha, Mítico?
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  Speaker 1: I know. Conoco? I know. I've heard of it. I've
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen it. I haven't seen it personally.
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  Speaker 1: You know that we talked about it. The future channel, right? show.
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  Speaker 1: His girlfriend went to a show in Rio, in a
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  Speaker 1: story that was made from the show, from the cut.
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  Speaker 1: She went there and said, thank you for the affection
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  Speaker 1: you had for my husband, my boyfriend, who was Anão Pistolinha.
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  Speaker 1: Then someone said, did you see Anão Pistolinha? We don't
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: take Débora Seco there, but Anão Pistolinha... Who was on
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: your podcast? Antônio Fagundes, Raul Cortez and Anão Pistolinha. It's
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: a triad. Who else was on this podcast? Mauro César, Vampeta, Hortência.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: Did you ask Vampeta about basketball? No. But he loves it.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: He loves it.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know many names.
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  Speaker 1: I confused them. But he likes it. Who else do
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: you want to take there? No, I'm loving these names here.
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  Speaker 1: Sérgio Malandro. Fuck. Ah, no, Pistolinha. Yeah, we're in that level.
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  Speaker 1: Itacati Lack. Itacati Lack. Débora Seco. Deborah Seco. In the
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  Speaker 1: first show, he told... He had a dream once with
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  Speaker 1: Deborah Seco. And then this guy remembered in the middle
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: of the show. He said, man, what about Deborah Seco?
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: I said, what's up? He said, you dreamed of her.
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  Speaker 1: Then I had to tell. Detail the dream. It's a
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: very strange thing. And then they start marking Deborah Seco
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  Speaker 1: for her to look at. Obviously, she won't look at
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  Speaker 1: the jararacas, podcasts and basketball, obviously. She has more things
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  Speaker 1: to do. It's a dream that he's in a hotel
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: and only in his room there's water. She came to
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: knock on my door and said,'' Can I take a
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  Speaker 1: shower in your bathroom?'' I said,'' Of course.'' Damn, what
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  Speaker 1: a dream. It's a fucking dream. It's all right. It's
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: all right. In a dream, you can. We're going to
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: talk about NBA, right? Let's go. Let's go. We're going
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: to talk about NBA. Dude, we came with this one.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Nenê Hilário and Thiago Splitter. They're two jerseys that Amit
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  Speaker 1: and Ernesto are releasing in Brazil, from Brazilian players. Damn,
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome. Exactly. Thiago, the first Brazilian champion, was a
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  Speaker 1: Portland coach this season. First Brazilian coach in the history
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  Speaker 1: of NBA. Possibly Amit will send it to you. Wasn't
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  Speaker 1: he the one who was in Denver? Who played for
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  Speaker 1: Denver was Nenê. No, I know, but... No, in Portland.
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  Speaker 1: He was in Portland now. We didn't know him, man.
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  Speaker 4: He's a huge loiterer.
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  Speaker 1: He was in Houston. He was a technical assistant in Houston.
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  Speaker 1: He played for Brooklyn too.
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  Speaker 4: No, I know he played, but I remember when we
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: went to do NBA on the road, including in this
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  Speaker 4: game that we met.
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  Speaker 1: There, from Denver and Lakers, he was... Denver, man. He
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  Speaker 1: was in Denver, I don't know if it was him. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: It was another guy. Felipe Eichenberger. He's the Brazilian. He's
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  Speaker 1: the physical coach. It's Felipe and Carl. They're two Brazilians.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Thiago Splitter is currently a coach. He was the first
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  Speaker 1: coach in the NBA. He was in Brooklyn. I just remembered.
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  Speaker 2: He was the first Brazilian champion in the NBA with
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  Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs in 2014.
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  Speaker 1: How difficult must.
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  Speaker 3: It be to reach the level of being a coach
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  Speaker 3: in the NBA?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Because before being a coach in the NBA, he
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  Speaker 1: was a coach in Europe. A team from Paris.
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  Speaker 2: And he also has a very big career as a
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  Speaker 2: player in Europe before playing in the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: He's a spectacular figure.
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  Speaker 4: He's at Portland, right?
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  Speaker 1: He's at Portland, but... He's not there because the contract
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  Speaker 1: is over and Portland has a new owner with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money. And the guy offered him a reasonable salary.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't match the salary of a coach. They
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  Speaker 1: offered him $ 1. 5 million per year. And normally, the guys
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  Speaker 1: earn over $ 5 million. And then they offered something to
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  Speaker 1: a college coach, and the coach said, man, I won
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  Speaker 1: a triple here, why would I quit college basketball to
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  Speaker 1: be the head of a professional team? Responsibility and such.
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  Speaker 1: But the Chicago Bulls, who are without a coach, already
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  Speaker 1: pointed out that they want to talk to Thiago. Thiago
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  Speaker 1: could be on the final list of candidates for coach
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  Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bulls. Imagine Thiago, coach of the Chicago Bulls,
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  Speaker 1: who has one of the biggest fans in Brazil because
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  Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan.
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  Speaker 2: And because he had a great season with Portland. The
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  Speaker 2: playoffs came, the first round of playoffs came. It's a
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  Speaker 2: team that is in reconstruction. And he took it in
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  Speaker 2: a skirmish too, because it was the first week of
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  Speaker 2: the season. And suddenly the Portland coach was arrested. former
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  Speaker 2: Chelsea player, accused of being involved in illegal poker, illegal games.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. I saw that tape. Damn, man. He
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: put other athletes, other people to play that. He was
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: involved with some tables that were totally addicted. And there
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: was a hidden camera. You put the card like that
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: and there was an infrared, as if it were a
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: red infrared that looked at your card from below. All absurd.
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  Speaker 1: And there are more people involved. And then Splitter said,
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  Speaker 1: you have a technical assistant. And then I got to Espritão.
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  Speaker 1: Did I take over as the main coach? Okay. And
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  Speaker 1: it was now.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't it hurt when a team that's, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, the owner is now a cow's hand,
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  Speaker 4: the guy won't invest so much, but when you look there,
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  Speaker 4: there's a star like Lillard there, doesn't it hurt? You say, wow,
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  Speaker 4: this guy is going to die here.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't it hurt? He left, went to Milwaukee, came back
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  Speaker 1: from injury, now to Portland. Man, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Because that's sad, man. When the team isn't so good...
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  Speaker 4: Even more so when I'm on the court, man.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine... The happiness we had of having a Thiago... First Brazilian,
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  Speaker 1: a good guy. Thiago, you can bring him here. Thiago
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  Speaker 1: is an exceptional guy. Thiago is so fantastic. I have
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  Speaker 1: a friend called Fábia, who studied with me at Pasteur,
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  Speaker 1: and her son plays basketball. She was going to be
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: in Chicago. He was Houston Rockets' assistant coach. He was
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  Speaker 1: going to be in Chicago. And she said, there's a
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Chicago and Houston, my son is a fan of Curry,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: there's a Chicago and Golden State. The Chicago and Golden
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: State tickets were way more expensive. With just one ticket,
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  Speaker 1: she would pay her husband and two kids in the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: game against Houston. How much was the average? I don't
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: remember what the price was. The most expensive ticket today,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: if the Knicks went to the final, was $ 199, 000. One ticket.
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  Speaker 4: Game one.
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  Speaker 1: The first game in New York, which will be the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: third game of the series. Because if Clarone and San
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  Speaker 1: Antonio advance, they have a squad. So, 199 thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: will be the most expensive ticket if the final happens
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  Speaker 1: in New York.
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  Speaker 4: Which is already from Spike Lee, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's practically. It's on his side, on Michael J. Fox's side.
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  Speaker 1: And Ben Stiller. She said, I think I'll go with
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  Speaker 1: the whole family to the Houston game. I said, go
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  Speaker 1: to Houston. I'll send a message to Thiago.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: And Thiago goes there and receives your son. Who knows,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the guy can't take him to the locker room, or
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: get to know the facilities. Or even take a picture
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: with Thiago, because only Thiago was worth it. Thiago was
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the first Brazilian champion, he was a monster. I've seen
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: two games thanks to Thiago. Which one?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: At Brooklyn, he was a technical assistant. I got to
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: see a game with my wife on Friday night, and
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I was still in New York on Sunday morning, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: he sent me a message. You're still in New York?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: It's the last day of the season?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: And it was funny, because the first game I saw
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: on Friday, I was in a sector that is a
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: sector of relatives. It seems to me that his wife
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: could not be in the day, so the game ended,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: he prayed for the Flamengo sector. In my direction, I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: felt like, is he looking for his wife and saw me?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: It was a little strange feeling.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: All right. But you felt welcomed. I felt welcomed. Exactly.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Not a conjugal relationship, but something like that, nice, right?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: A nice thing. And on Sunday he sent me another one.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I was very sorry when he left Brooklyn. But you
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: see that he turned around and said, I said, Thiagão,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I'm with a friend there, man, a friend from high school, imagine,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and she's Corinthians for my sake, okay? Then I'll tell
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: you this story. And I turned to her and said...
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: After this program here or after? No, it can be
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: in a little while. Tomorrow? Tell me tomorrow. Then I turned,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the TDAH is awesome, it starts with one story and
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: ends with another. And then he said, Bulga, pass my
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: cell phone to her, tell her to call me, I'll
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: meet her at the gym. Man, that's awesome. Do you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: believe she didn't call because she was embarrassed? She said, man,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to bother the guy. I'm this guy.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I said, Fabio, it's been three days. I said, Fabio,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: what's up, man? The guy is in love, what's up?
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: He took a picture with Thiago in the box at
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the United Center. I said, Buga, I'm sorry, I was
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: embarrassed to call him. Then I called him and said, Thiago,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: this girl was embarrassed, I'm sorry. He said, what's this, Buga,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it's all right. The guy is spectacular. He's good people.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I hope a lot for him. Who do you hope for?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Galo for Galo. No, but NB. Galo has NB now. So,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: if there was a team with a mascot of Galo,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I could fool them.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I always say this, for me, cheering is synonymous with suffering.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: So, for me, cheering... That's why I chose Clippers.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Evidently, when I'm narrating... When I'm narrating, I don't cheer
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: for anyone, not even Galo. When I'm narrating, because many
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: athletes have already cursed me on the internet, because they
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: think I have to narrate and.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: As I.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Publicly assume that I cheer for Atlético, I have to...
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to be a representative.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: No, when I'm narrating, then I completely forget about it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It's work, right?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: But there's no basketball team that you like, that you
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: feel a different affection?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: The players, right?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: No, I have a preference for players. Now, I've never
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: had a team, because for me, as I said, cheering
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: is suffering.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: For me, cheering is... If you're.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Watching a football game, the opponent's team is hitting a
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: side on the defense field, you're already distressed, you're anxious.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: And I don't feel that watching a basketball game. Basketball,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: for me, has always been more entertainment. Playing NBA, for me,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: has always been fun. The most I've ever cheered for,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: as a kid, as a teenager, was that a team
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: would win because that would represent that there would be
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: another game in the series.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The most. I've never had that kind of cheering. But
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: for the Brazilian basketball team, the man cheered. I've cheered more.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's already irritated me a lot too. I don't cheer
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: much either. I'm the top 5. I'm the top 5.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: The guys are playing now with the Cienciano. Top 5 players, then, Dani,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: that you like? Currently? Yeah. I like Stephen Curry. Luka Doncic,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Wayne Baniyama, LeBron. They're players that are.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: So, but it doesn't seem like this... getting kind of
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: clear that the dynasty, the era, is changing?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Because there's no more Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Curry in
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: the finals.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yes. Now it's... It's another generation now. What do you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: think of that? It's part of life. Exactly.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: But is it something you like, or is it something that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: It's natural. It has to be. LeBron is 41 years old,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: so there's no eternity for LeBron. But you don't think.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to play the last season now, right?
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Or two more, maybe.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: He doesn't talk publicly. He doesn't even say where he's going.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Are you going to stay in LA? If you were
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: LeBron James, what would you do? Vocês montariam um super time.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Loucuras. Loucuras. Vocês montariam um... Eu não ia estar jogando
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: aos 41 anos, não. Também não. Não, né? Não, muito trabalho.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Muito esforço. Ia sair enchendo o cara de tequila, Los Lobos, né?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Que ele tem uma tequila. Uma jacuzzi. Pô. A Couture's,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: daí já era. Um terraço. That's right. Eating delicious things.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Eating delicious things. Live meat and dead meat. Anyway, but... No,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: but then there's the savannah. You have to be faithful
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to your wife. Yes, you have to respect that. Yes,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: without a doubt. It can't be like that, no. It
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: can't be. Promiscuous. No, but the question is very deep.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: If it were Lebron, how many things could he do? No,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it's because... If it were Lebron... I was going to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: build it. My thought is.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: You are LeBron James and you are going to the
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: last season of NBA.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You want to stay in the Lakers, go to Cleveland.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: To start, in my humble opinion, LeBron is the greatest
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: athlete in history.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Of any sport. Of any sport. He is the greatest athlete.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: The most intense longevity. He is the greatest athlete in history.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: There will be a lot of people. Now talk about
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I know you're talking about the history of all sports.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: The greatest athlete. Athlete. The guy from... of high-level time, longevity, resistance, intensity.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: More than Christian Ronaldo? More. Why? Because LeBron is playing
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: in the NBA.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: LeBron didn't play in a rich championship, but with less
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: technical quality.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: LeBron is in the NBA. He's losing, but he's playing
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in the NBA.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: But football is bigger, right?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yes. But the intensity of playing basketball is very different.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: In football, the guy rests in the game. Sometimes he
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: stays there for a while without receiving a ball. One
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: thing doesn't eliminate the other. When we make a choice,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you say, do you like LeBron or Jordan? LeBron. Buga
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: said Jordan was shit. That's a lie. You said you
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: gave me an option to choose. I'll go there and choose.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: In this case, it's the size of the athletic art,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the preparation, the understanding, the commitment. You have several names.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I see people always citing three. Phelps... Christian Ronaldo and LeBron. Yes,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and Carl Lewis, who was the champion of running, of jumping,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: he was a multi-olympic champion in several athletic events. You
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: had several. Nadal, Djokovic and Federer, they were super athletes.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Tiger Woods in the golf, he had a historic moment too.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: But you were saying that this cycle is updating.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Mohamed Ali.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: How is the media, the basketball fans, having this movement
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: that the legends are... They're stopping, they're not dominating anymore.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It's always melancholic. But how is the media?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Is basketball losing its grace?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: No, let me say something, but in the United States
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: there is a very big drama, because for a long
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: time there has been no North American, or American, as
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: they say a lot now, elected MVP of the season.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: The last one was James Harden in 2018.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Wow! Since then it's just, it's Greek, it's Serbian. I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: think the North American is the only one with a
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: lot of shit out of the box, right? But he
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: stopped with that, right? Yes, he learned, right? And he
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: also had a serious injury in the middle of the way, right?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: It ended up getting in the way a lot. Jamoran
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: is a kid that I would like to see in
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: another team, man. I think he's very, No, he's a monster.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He's a monster in the box.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: There are two I'd like to see. He and Zion Williamson,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: who's a player... Who's in Houston. No, who's in New Orleans.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Who's a player... Who's that heavy guy, who was the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Novo Leblon. The big guy. The guy who always was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the best. The number one, right? Yeah, exactly, from the draft.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Who's the size of Higão. He's the Higão that didn't
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: go forward, right? Because Higão is where he is. You see?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: You're there. You look like a priest with this shirt
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: closed here. You're so beautiful. Come here, man. Monster. Now
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Zion is getting bigger. He's been at NBA for how long?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: 5 years?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: More.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: 2019, right?
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: He joined with Jamoran. He was one of the drafts
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: of Jamoran 2.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Jamoran was a rookie of the year, not him. The
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: North Americans have to understand that currently, the NBA is
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: accompanying a basketball championship in their country.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: And in front of a basketball championship, the chance of foreigners,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: not Americans, winning a MVP and being in the stands
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: is very high.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It's a world championship over a calendar. They brought it,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they wanted to bring the best into the country to
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: strengthen the championship, but with this problem, man. Basketball is played...
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Only FIFA has more affiliated countries than FIBA. There are
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: more than 200 countries that play basketball. So, man, they
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: play basketball all over the world. I, for example, am
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: in love with basketball before I fell in love with NBA. So,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: if you want to bring the best, you take the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: risk of the best taking care of your country, man. And, like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: if the American team doesn't go with the elite in
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the Olympics, in the World Cup, they'll always screw up. So,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that's it. It's the price they pay.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's no use putting Trump, Ice, this guy is legalized,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: everything is cute, they'll stay there. In 1992, with the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Dream Team in Barcelona, it was a different story. That show,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the North American team, dreams.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: The guys looked at the guys like heroes. They took pictures.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: They took pictures in the middle of the game. They
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: took pictures, they filmed. Now they compete. But are new
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Lembrons being born? Lembrons? New... Lembrons. Lembrons. I don't think so, Mítico.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? Idols?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Not with his quality and everything, but I mean with idols.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Of his size in a new basketball. The face of
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the league is a phenomenon. For example, this Frenchman, Victor...
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I think I went too far.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Victor Uembanyama is a unique figure in the history of
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the sport.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: He's changing things. Yes. He's rolling too.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: It's an impact since he kept himself healthy for his career,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: because he's really a guy from that time. The big
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: challenge is for him to have longevity. Because usually very
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: tall players have a short career. If he stays healthy,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: in about 15 years, I have absolute conviction of this,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the discussion will be Jordan, LeBron and Mbanyama. Who has
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the biggest impact in NBA history.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But he has this mission. Stay healthy.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: The team also has to have this mission of knowing
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: how to manage the guy.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I thought that when Mbanyama.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Appeared, he would be more like Zion. Like, he's a giant,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: but he won't be strong. He won't be able to perform.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: He's more hype.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I thought he was more hype.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: He's more focused. He's more professional than Zion. He's very competitive.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Did you watch the Oklahoma Spurs game?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: He's a phenomenon. I was shocked.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He won a silver medal at the Olympic Games. We
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: broadcasted it on TV, after all. It was historic. United
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: States and France. His lamentation, his cry with that defeat.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: It's about someone with a unique level of competitiveness. There's
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: a big recent NBA discussion about how the All-Star Game
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: is boring. How the game is unbearable.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: The last one was boring. No, the last one was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: better than the previous ones. Okay.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: And it was a lot in function of the posture
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: of Wayne Bariama. That at the first moment of the game,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: he was competing. Way above, he pulled the others.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Ah, okay.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: The game itself was cool, but what I really liked
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: was the Dunk Contest.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Ah, okay. That's a fiasco. That's a fiasco.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: That's the coolest thing about the thing, man. They took
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: the guys from MyPika to compete.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That's it. Why did that happen? That became a mix
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of things.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I think the NBA should accept that the show of
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the buried at the moment, for this type of event,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: is not at the NBA. It's at the Street Basketball people.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yes. The acrobatics. That Shaq did this tournament for him.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And make a connection with them, you know? You didn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: see that Shaq did an... An independent. An independent. With
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the great guys from Street... It was like there was
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a crowd of people who do this kind of thing.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: We were at the All-Star, right? We were at the
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Clippers stadium. We were there, watching. It was really cool.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: The basketball tournament in 2018 was.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It was crazy.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: We were watching, and Dunk Contest was always the best.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Then we realized that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Something was going on out there more hyped than it
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: was going on there, which was other Dunk tournaments, so
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: much so that we found Hakim.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Who caused it there in Los Angeles. I remember Dwight Howard,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I remember everyone, remember? I said, what is this? What
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you did was cooler than what we were seeing inside
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the gym. But much more, but much more. So the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: way out for NBA is this, unless the stars of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the league took it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: LeBron never played in the NBA. The weight of the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: IOT that is participating. Man, this had to happen with
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the NBA, to catch the big stars. As it happened
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: with Curry in Indianapolis with Sabrina and UNESCO.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly. We were in this one too. This one I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: went to Indianapolis.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The great moment of that Saturday night, because this event
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: was at the American Stadium, at Lucas Oil Stadium. The
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: great event was this, Curry against UNESCO. So you have
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to be creative.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And she almost won. It was very balanced, but Curry
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is the most famous in history, right? That's really cool.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Either you connect it to where the show is, or
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the big stars start to compete.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Because the way it is with the alternative players, practically...
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: And the dunks are bad too.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Totally. It seems like they didn't follow the protocol. Did
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you see the dunk that took 9.9 there? Normal dunk.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: No criteria.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: No. I was very upset about that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: It was boring, it was boring. Every time the All-Star
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: is coming, we start to put....
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: All Star Game and Dunkin' Contest 2016, because I think
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: it was the last one that was really crazy.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: It was a show, right? It was. Aaron Gordon, man.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Zach LaVine, Aaron Gordon. There was also Airplane Mode, right?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Derrick Jones Jr.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Too. Yeah, Dwayne Wade gave a 9 to Aaron Gordon. Miami.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And Derrick Jones Jr. was a Miami player. Dwayne Wade
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: went there and kicked ass, right? It's like if we
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: were giving a score to Marcelinho Carioca to score a foul.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: There's no way. The guy would take the 3-10, if
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: he kicked the ball in the corner, we would give
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: him 3-10 and the goal would be 0. Exactly.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And the responsibility is very great, because it's history. You
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: put it on YouTube, in the 80s, Michael Jordan against
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Anthony de Terradas, against Dominick Wilkins.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Then Vince Carter. Vince Carter, also historical, in 2000. There
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: are great moments.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: What is that guy who goes up just for the cupcake.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Cedric.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Ceballos With his eyes closed, he crossed the whole square
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and managed to bury him.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Man... Yeah, he marked it. He took it, he stepped
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: on it, right? So he killed it. Gerald Green. Gerald Green.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Gerald Green has one finger less, right? You know he
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't have this finger here, right? Is it serious? He
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: held it, right? I didn't know. He blew it. He
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: blew it. Happy birthday. A classic too, I almost came
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: with a tennis without wanting to. They're also not letting
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Mc Lange participate anymore, he was winning all of them, right?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: He won, exactly. The last three, right? That's it, that's it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: He's a player in the development league, he doesn't even
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: play in the league. He doesn't have space in the league.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: He's on the Orlando development team, right?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, but he would certainly have won again now, this year.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And he made a video posting that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: He did 3, 4 dunks like that, which was better
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: than any of those he won. Easy, easy. Now, the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: story of McClung that is most impressive is that in
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: one of the years that he won, for him to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: compete in the tournament, he had to be connected to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: some team. And Philadelphia 76ers released Julian Champagne for him
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to sign and play the Dunk Contest. Champagne today is...
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: two seasons in a row, playing 82 games for San Antonio,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the absolute starter. He's a 40% guy in the triple ball.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: San Antonio's reference, who's dueling to come back to a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: NBA final because of a funeral tournament. So, Philadelphia is
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a sequence of shit, to tell the truth. You tried
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to put James Harden together with Joel Embiid. You opened
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler's hand and he kept Tobias. You brought Paul George.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: You kept Ben Simmons. Then you opened Ben Simmons' hand
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: for nothing.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Ben Simmons won the fishing tournament. This is the final
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: of the week.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: It's true. He's in a fishing team.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: When Philadelphia eliminated Boston, I swore they were going to have.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: A conference final. Embiid is... He can't. He's out of shape.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: He's out of rhythm.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I talked to Bulga at Jaracas the day before yesterday.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Embiid is a superstar who can't do what we expect
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: from a superstar, which is to be fundamental for a
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: team that competes for the title. He has all the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: contusions that you can imagine in the human body.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: He already had. From the uterus, I guess.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: He took the appendix just before the playoffs. He came
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: back in the middle of the series against Boston.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And he came back very well. Three games dominating. But
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that's his limit. In the first game against New York,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the team was already crushed.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: The second game he didn't play. Physical condition. He came back,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: he came back bad. Unfortunately, he doesn't have physical condition
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to be a protagonist player for the title. I think
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: it's one of the biggest dramas that a superstar can have.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: And he can't play.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like this will always be the biggest
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: challenge for NBA athletes?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Because they're gigantic. And... A lot of articulation the human
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: being has. He has chronic knee injuries. Yes. He was
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: drafted and it took him two years to play in
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the NBA. Because he already had injuries.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: He spent two years without playing and now he's selected.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like if Mbayama... That's the great thing
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: about Wimbledon.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Don't get hurt. If you don't get hurt, it's healthy.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Is there anything you can do to stop him?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Not at the moment. What do you think needs to
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: be done to stop the guy?
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Because when he's already got his hand here to throw,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: there's no way to take it out of his hand.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Tanner is using the Hatterstein, grabbing him the whole game.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Pulling the arm. But he's not making any progress. Minimisa, right? Minimisa.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: It's the game, it's the series.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: It's the series. Man, Wimbledon, the possibility of him being
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the biggest name in history, why? First of all, Michael
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Jordan dominated him because he was very good on both
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: sides of the court. On the defense and on the attack.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: On the attack, he was a clutch guy.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: On the defense, he was a monster. Was that the
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: big differential.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Of Jordan's time? There are several differentials.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I think his freedom in decision making is also unique.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: He was very clutch, right? Now, Wemba Neymar... Imagine that
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Wemba Neymar is 35 cm taller than Michael Jordan. Or almost.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Because the guy doesn't stop growing. The guy is 20,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: 21 years old. Nossa, ele pode crescer mais. É, cara.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: He's listed 2-24. But whoever sees him on a daily
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: basis knows that he has more. It's like Kevin Durant.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant says he has 2-6. And he actually has 2-13.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: He never said he had 2-13, because otherwise he puts
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: him on the pivot. He must be on the edge
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: of his 2-30. He's playing tennis. If the guy is
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: dominant in defense, the way that everyone has to change
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the throw to try to pass him, you realize that
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: when the guy tries, you change the throw. That's when
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the guy doesn't run away. The guy will go up.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: There's an embalmer, but the guy says, I'm going to
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: pass the ball to the midfielder, he's the one who turns.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: You know? Now, in the attack, a guy with this potential,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and the most important ball in that game, game one,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: was a three-ball, it was the most distant ball he's
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: ever hit in his career. Did you see that? With
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: two prologues? I screamed. Those are the most amazing games
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I've ever narrated in my life. You doubt? That was crazy.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: It was the farthest ball he threw in his career.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But he threw it as if it were Curry.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: And this is a set of Curry that is the same.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: It's a throw, everyone says there, this is a stupid throw,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: because if it's Curry, everything is fine. Now, you who
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: are not Curry, you can't throw like that. You're going
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to make a mistake. But the guy threw, losing by three,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: showed a... The confidence, the authority. The confidence, I said,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: from here I'm going to dominate this. Go, Ronen, this
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: goal is nonsense. It's nonsense. You can't touch it. If
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: you don't touch it, it's all right. You can't touch
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the genitals. Oh, man. So I can do it like this.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not touching it. I'm doing it with my finger,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: like you did. No, no. For me... No, you can't
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: do that. It's another gesture.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: For me, you could touch it and not touch it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You could touch it and not touch it. No, but
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: if it's directed, I don't think so.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, I got it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: No, no, not for you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to shake it here, but... I was
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: going to ask a very, very, very good question. There's
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: no limit in the NBA.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Because of the height? Because Marina will be in the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: next ones and it seems like... It's kind of... It's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: kind of... to Embayama, it seems that sometimes it's very
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: easy for him. There's no such thing as distancing the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: four-point line here, because they're going to increase the table.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Or increase the table, right? Because the cases are really growing, right?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Is this really a risk? No, it's not going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: increase the table, but the four-point ball, there are people
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: who dream about it. This is a shame.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I prefer that it increases the table than the four-point line.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Man, it's to think about. No, no. The four-point line,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: if it's created, everyone will kick it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Um cara pega a bola embaixo da sua cesta e
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: faz um lançamento e converte, acho que vale mais que três.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Tá, entendi.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Aquelas lá que é tipo, vai estourar o coração.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Exato, exato.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Mas não uma nova marca que mude muito o padrão
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: de ataque e de planejamento.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Eu acho que é... I don't know if it's stupid
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: to change everything now, but my fear is to start
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: to appear a lot of victories in Bahia, and the
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: average height is 2 and something, 2 and 30.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: But I think it's 25. He has a lot of
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: technique too.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: He's good as hell, and he's stronger.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: He has a free throw advantage, very good. So he's
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: a guy that, ah, we're going to miss in Bahia,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: because he's going to miss a lot.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: No, he has a great use of it. Is it
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Kestrel who's playing a lot in Spurs too?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: There are several, Kestrel has made a lot of turnovers,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: because he's being, he's fundamental in the attack as an
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: aggressive guy and also defends a lot the best player
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: in the opponent's team. Imagine the wear that this is.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: This is resulting in a lot of his waste, which.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I call turnover.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: There was a game of 11 turnovers, another of 9,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: that he's really... overloaded in this condition of attack and defense.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: But it's excellent, player.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: And do you feel that it's going to be this NBA?
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Because I feel that before they had, I don't know,
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: that Golden State star, the Cavaliers of LeBron, then Miami.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Four straight finals between them. There's no more of that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Today what I'm seeing is a team, I don't know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Spurs is a very good team that runs a lot. Man,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: New York for me was a surprise. Jalen Brunson is
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: doing great, but OKC is like that. They're strong teams.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's what Kancho said about Jaracos and Bulga. The
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: formula to be NBA champion... It's not a duo anymore, right? No,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: not at all.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: You have to have a protagonist. The guy who's the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: star of your team. The guy who, at the moment
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: of decision, the ball goes to him, he has the coolness,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: he has the enjoyment. Respect for the opponent. Yeah, but
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: that's not enough. The opponent has to be mine. It's Shea,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: it's Imanema.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: There are two of them. Exactly. But you have to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: have a team with depth, with options. Because Thunder was
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a champion because of that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Because of the energy, the intensity, the variation. They can
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: defend the same quality the bottle as the perimeter. It
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: has to be like that. It has to be a
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: very strong match. It's not the era of... Let's choose
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: three great names here. and the rest of us can
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: put the players at a low level that these three will,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: with their quality, win the title. That's not enough for
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the NBA anymore. The game is very fast. You have
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: to have rhythm and physical condition. And you only have
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: that with a large cast of players.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: This is the difference between Thunder and Spurs today. The
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: game yesterday was that. If you put together Mitko, Higão, Buga,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Romulo and Shaquille O'Neal, who came here... It's over, baby!
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: It's over! It's over! Same thing.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Last year's NBA final, Oklahoma and Indiana. Indiana was a
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: collective team last year. If you don't have a team,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you have to have a protagonist, but you don't have
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the strength, the depth of the cast, you don't have
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: the current formula for this NBA championship. In New York
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: there's no Big 3, but there are three guys that
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: have played together since Villanova.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: They were university champions. Josh Hart, Mikkel Brits and Jalen Brunson.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: They're brothers. So, things are made easier with this kind
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: of game. It's the same thing.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Here, man.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It's the wedding. It's the mythical wedding. You can have
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: some fights at some point, but... Man, that made things
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: go wrong. You understand? So, one ends up playing for
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: the other. At that moment, you have one protagonist, everyone
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: plays for the other... and especially the defensive aspect. This
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: phrase that the guys say, attack wins the game and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: defense wins the game, is one of the most true
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that I think.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: What came here recently said that I'm sure I'm not
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: the best, in my whole life I've never been the best,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: But he said, I'm more dedicated. And that's what makes
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: me play.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Gui Trabalhador. Gui Trabalhador. Wonderful.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Because he said, people say I have the Gui energy.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I change the game, I'm very energetic defending. I said,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: that's what makes the difference. The will surpasses the talent, man.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Do you think that's always the case?
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Not always, but it depends on the circumstances, man. But
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you have to have talent too. Talent, sometimes the guy
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: gets uncomfortable, he thinks he's going to win the game
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: whenever he wants. And sometimes the desire more. You realize
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: in some moments, in some games, that the game is
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: balanced and in detail. Who's going to give a little
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: car there? You're going to say, man, the other day
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: we played in a ball. I saw, a little fish.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: A little fish, and I said, man, and this guy,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: every time he falls, he puts his hand on his head.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I said, this guy is going to break. Because we
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: get worried. Yeah. Yeah.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Do you agree with me or not?
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at the face and everyone is like.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: He's cute, a guy who dresses very well, very tasty,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: since you're going to a new clothing store, he said
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that at the end of the week, he opened it
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and said like this, I'm going to the end of
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the week, I'm going to dress better, on Monday he
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: was wearing flip-flops and underwear here, possibly, right? It's coming
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: to the clothes, it's coming to the clothes. Che is
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: a guy who speaks well, He's a guy who values
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: his teammates. It's hard to do that with a superstar.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: We can see him valuing everyone. When the series against
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the Lakers is over, when Thunder beats the Lakers, he
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: comes and says... AJ Mitchell is a second year player,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: a Belgian, not even American. He says he was the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: best player in the series. And thanks to him, we
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: were able to have an easy job here.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: But I see he doesn't call this a protagonist for him.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's more of a low-profile guy. He's not
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a marketing guy like Tim Duncan from San Antonio. He
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: played a lot. But if he had charisma, he'd be
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: in the top 5 of the history. For me, he's
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the best player I've ever seen. But he's not a salesman.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: There was no tennis in his name. Shea already has
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: a line of tennis. And there's a controversy. Today there's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: a controversy. Which one? Because they say arbitration is very
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: favorable to Oklahoma City Thunder. And one of the referees,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: James Williams, he made one of the games with a
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: player edition of Shea on his foot. Player? Player edition.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: That is, it's a tennis made... For the player. For
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the player of Shea's line. But it can't, right? Man...
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: There was no Boston Lakers that proved that... Remember that
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: game that Patrick Beverly took the camera and gave it
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to the referee to score a foul on LeBron in
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the last move in the Tierney Garden? And then they
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: saw the account on Twitter of the referee. The referee
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: only had a photo with the Boston shirt, him, the family,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the children. The guy was banned from NBA. And what
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: happened to that? Nothing happened. That news came out today.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: James Williams. And what can it give? I don't know, man.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: It's a little lighter than the Boston and Lakers.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: It's controversial. You play, there's a possibility for you to
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: think anything. And then? It's because there's.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: A great controversy about arbitrage in relation to the Thunder game.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Throughout the season, there was the Sneaks' coach, Mike Brown,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: who came to say that, ironically, that Shea is a
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: player who knows how to few, with a lot of intelligence,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to deceive arbitration, to convince arbitration that the fault happened. So,
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: if there is a final between Thunder and Knicks, certainly
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: the New York coach will talk a lot about it.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: There is a very big controversy... There is a very
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: big controversy about this question of whether Thunder is a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: favored team or not. Mainly these contacts and.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Many faults and many goes to free throw. I honestly
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: think that lately, in this period of playoffs, April and May,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: arbitrage has changed a lot. in relation to this marking
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: posture against Shea.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: He let the game run more.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: He already had a lot of play in the playoffs,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: in which certainly in the regular season it would have
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: been marked a foul on Shea and it was not marked.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And it's funny to see that in many of them
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: he reacts like that, scared.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Like, they didn't score the foul.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: So already this, as they say, young people nowadays, this
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: narrative already has a big impact and influences arbitration in
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: the game. Traditionally, arbitration changes a lot. the style, comparing
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the regular season with the playoffs. With the playoffs, many times,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: the pitons play differently.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: But in this specific case... The defense guarantees that the
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: defense has more chances to contain the score.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: The attack, right? Even to try to maintain the competitiveness, right?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: So it already has this influence. You can already see that.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: And the big controversy is this.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: And now the San Antonio-Oklahoma series, which has already had
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: two games, the first was spectacular. It was.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: It's 1-1, right? It's 1-1. Tomorrow we'll broadcast Game 3.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: At 9.30 p.m. On Amazon Prime. Exactly.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: There's already a collection of images. Yesterday's game, Hatterstein... He
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: pulled Castle's hair. He pulled Castle's hair.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And nothing was marked.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: The sequence of shocks over Wemba Nyama. There's a scene
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: where Wemba Nyama completes an aerial bridge. I think it's
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Hatterstein himself who's pulling his other arm and completes the
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: aerial bridge with the other arm.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: So, it's a big controversy. There's a kick from Wimbledon
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: when he's waiting for the free throw, and Chet Holmgren
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: passes and kicks to prevent the guy from going forward.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I think that happens a lot.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: As Oklahoma is aiming, they're using it.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: But the hooks... The collection is too much, it's getting easier.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Hooks and pushes. Oklahoma is the villain of the league.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't need that, because it's a great team.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say, because we went
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: to Boston recently and we saw Oklahoma... and boston celtics
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: there right boston celtics and oklahoma they.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Smashed the guys it's a spectacular team but currently it's
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: generating a lot of media because it really kind of
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: embodied the villain role as much as in the arbitration issue,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: in the eventual promotion.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: That's the great NB's controversy at the moment. And what
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: do you feel? Does it really exist? I think they're
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: opting differently now.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: It was a proof that the big problem in general
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: is the NB arbitration, which is very bad. The NB
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: arbitration is very weak in general. And when it becomes
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: very evident that games like this, on the regular season,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: were a festival of fouls for Shea and games of
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: 25 free throws for him, and now in the playoffs,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: which naturally the game is more physical, simply this is
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: not marked, it's because it's another proof of how bad
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: the arbitration is at NB.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: There's a lack of criteria too. There's no criteria. None.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: This controversy about Oklahoma just revealed how bad the arbitration.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: At NB is. The NBA arbitration, each game is being
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: done in one way, in one way.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: It has changed.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: All the criticism, all the pressure, the technical and speech,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the social networks that ironize, put a meme with Shea
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: with a judge's shirt, all of that, it's all in
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: the box. And they started to do it in a
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: different way. I mean, there's no criteria. They're going to
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: obey the pleasure of what's being said, what's being pressured,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: There's a detail too, the NBA, for a few years...
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: But it's good to highlight this, Thunder is a great team. Yes,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: it's a great team. Maybe the best, right?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: The defense of Thunder is a historical defense.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Historical. For versatility.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: As he knows how to defend Garrafão with the big ones.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: As he knows how to defend on the perimeter Alex Caruso.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: That I affectionately call the head of Peru. The maconheiro too.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: His game was historical. Oklahoma has historical qualities. But there's
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: this controversy.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: He looks like Lek Trek. He looks like Lek Trek.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: He looks like Lek Trek. He looks like Lek Trek.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: You're talking about charisma, right?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Charisma, pressure. And the Knicks are able to go back
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to the final. You think that... It hasn't been since 1999. So...
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And they haven't won a title since 1973. You've been
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: to the Garden, have you watched the Knicks? My God, yeah. Wow,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: all of this? The Knicks are the Corinthians, man. The
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: fans are in love. The longer you stay in line,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: the more the thing gets in an absurd way. You
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: feel that if the Knicks go to a final... But
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the Knicks aren't owes as much as the Corinthians. Exactly,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: they don't owe anything. The Corinthians are owes more than
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the Knicks? Who's owes more than the Corinthians these days?
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, you're talking about titles.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: No, not titles. Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles! Titles!
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: It's changing. It's already changing. New York is more heated up. Pressure, news.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. Have you been to the Garden?
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: I have.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It's wonderful. The cool thing about.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Going to the Garden is to see who's on the
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: court side.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: The Garden, the first time... Chalamet? Chalamet. Ben Schiller, Michael J. Fox,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Spike Lee, Morgan, the comedian. The best are the historic players.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: It's one of the rare arenas where the players from
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the past are there. So you see behind the Knicks.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: So you see John Starks, Carmelo Anthony, Larry Johnson, Patrick Hill,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Matthew Sprewell, Stephen Marbury, everyone is there. And the guys
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: are cheering for the team they played for at some
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: point in their careers. Football is like that.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: In Itaquera, every time a Corinthians game, the image was cut,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: there was Neto.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Marcelinho, Basilio, you know? This is a very cool thing
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: that New York does, it's impressive. And it's unique. The
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: first time I went to the NBA, I told you
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: last time, was to watch the All-Star of 1998, which
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: was the last of Michael Jordan. And, man, New York
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: is not just... It ended up not being the last, right? Yeah,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: because then he returned to be a player for the
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Washington Wizards. But it was his last one, which is
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls jersey. And the first time I entered
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the Garden... I remember I went to see Frank Sinatra's
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: show in the Garden. There were some historical moments, not
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: only in the sport. You have the great fights, obviously.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali fought a lot there.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: The most iconic boxing nights were there.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Everything was there. Frank Sinatra's historic show, Elton John's 60th
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: year at the Garden. It's the mecca of entertainment, not
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: only in the sport. The guys have Corinthians, man! And
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: then the guy who is from Corinthians, there's no way!
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: And I always told the story of Márcio de Castro's wife,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: who was my friend from TV Bandeirantes, TV Record, Cazé TV. Márcio,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: his wife, Cat, didn't like basketball very much and he
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: took her to the Garden, man. She became more a
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: fan of the Knicks than of the Corinthians. My wife
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: is the same case. Fabiano is the same thing. Do
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you like the Knicks very much? Yeah, how was it then?
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I saw, in January of last year, I saw five
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: games of the Knicks in more than a week.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: It's direct, right? Yes. We were in a hotel nearby.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: It's a good place to go. It's a good place
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: to go. And you guys were playing well too.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: You had the opportunity to go to New York. First,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: New York is already an absurd experience.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: It's all there.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: You take the best ice cream in the world, you
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: eat the best cheesecake in the world, you see the
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: best show in the world, Michael Jackson is there, it's
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: all there.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Then you say, let's see a basketball game, and you
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: get impressed.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: An NBA game is already impressive in itself. But in
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: the Garden, it's different. It's not that they put the
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: music electronically, there's a guy there orchestrating, playing the piano,
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: in the organ. You say, what is this? It's all
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: happening now, it's all here. So it's entertainment happening there
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: at that moment, and we're in New York, in the Garden.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: It's the show, right? I'm rooting for the Knicks to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: go to the final just because of that. No, the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: NBA Finals with the Knicks is another story, right? I
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: wanted a Spurs and Knicks. It was already in 99.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: The last time New York went to the final was
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: in 99.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: And the NBA Cup was Spurs and Knicks this year
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, in December last year.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Do you believe it will happen?
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I still think it's going to
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: be Thundering.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: The Knicks were losing by 22 and they turned the
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: game against Cleveland.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: With Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson is playing a lot of things.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: He shut the mouth of the entire New York press.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of people, when he received the contract
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: of 100 million dollars... But when he came from Dallas,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the whole press was shocked. They were like, how are
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: we going to play $ 100 million on a guy who
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: is 1.85 meters tall to be the guy to command
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: this franchise that is in such need of a title?
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: And the guy shut everyone's mouth. The guy is playing
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: too much. Also because of this family scheme that I
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: told you about. Josh Hart, Mikkel Briggs. There's a legendary
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: video where Josh Hart played in Portland. And when he's
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: transferred to New York, Jalen Brunson is at college and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: his sister picks up his phone and shows it to him. Dude,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Josh Hart will come back to play with you. And
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: they have a podcast together there. He looks like... Hart
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: is the three there? Yeah, he looks like... Hart is
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the heart of New York. He's the guy who plays
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: for all the balls. Every basketball team, every sport team
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that has... There has to be a guy like that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Carrier of the piano. There has to be. This guy
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: is the guy. There's also Alvarado. There's Alvarado, who's crazy.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: He's from Puerto Rico. He plays for the Puerto Rican
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: national team. He's very Tican. He looks like New York.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: He fought to be there. He's from Brooklyn. He built that.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: He took his family now. He came from the Pelicans.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: When he's changed to come to New York, his entire
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: family to watch the first game in the Garden. You
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: can't get involved with that. It's a thing... A guy
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: who doesn't have a team, I even received a message,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I said this on Monday, and on Monday I said
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the following, if you don't have a team to root
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: for today, man, you have to root for San Antonio Spurs,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: because you have a generational guy, a guy who can
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: become the greatest player in history, And it's a team
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: that is very well managed, with these young people, Dylan Harper,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Stefan Kessel, Wayne Mariyama. You have Aaron Fox to be inserted,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: who is injured, he hasn't come to the series yet.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: And a franchise that is very well taken care of. Now,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: if you like this madness, as Romulo said, of you
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: cheering and suffering... Come with New York Knicks. Come with
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: New York Knicks, man. Come with New York Knicks. He
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: takes you up there and takes you down. But who
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: do you talk to? Do you talk to any team?
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: In these trips, stories? Clippers, right? Clippers. Ah, Clippers.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: We created a huge affection for Clippers because of the treatment.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: Look at the poor franchise, huh? But the treatment they
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: gave us, I can't... They're educated. It was the influence
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: of the DPC, too.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Education, education. It was the influence of the DPC, but
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: when we got there, it was very well treated.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: But I'm like you, I hope for the player.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: You asked who I think is going to win.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. For example, in the current situation of Thunders and Spurs.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: Who is going to the final, at least.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: So, Thunders and Spurs, yesterday, for example. Yesterday, they got hurt.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: J-Dub from Oklahoma, who is a fantastic player, who had
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: a very complicated season of injuries.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: And they also got hurt. Dylan Harper. Dylan Harper, who
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: is a rookie, who played too much in Game 1.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: 7 ball robberies.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: And Fox still didn't play in the series.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: And Thunders already had Mitchell's injury. In this condition... And
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: as NBA, besides everything we talked about, the depth of
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the cast, also.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Always wins who is healthier is a game after the.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Other, right?
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: The cast of Thunder is better than the cast of
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: San Antonio the cast of Thunder has more players that
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: you will see in the box and many times you
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: will not even feel much difference because the guys are
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: already there in rotation the whole season San Antonio, not anymore.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: San Antonio already has situations in which, with these guys injured,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: players come in and say, this guy is there!
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: You know? Jordan McLaughlin. Yeah, he's already in.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: This is a differential that is a very big and
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: significant advantage for Thunder.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: And Kevins, is he running away?
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Kevins, for me, is the pressure, mainly in relation to
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: James Harden, who was humiliated in Game 1, right? Defensively,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: he was crushed by Dylan Brunson. And Harden is a
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: veteran star. He was never NBA champion. So he's running
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: against the clock. He's running against time.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Do you think he lacks willpower? I think that.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: In the previous series against Detroit, he had good moments,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: incredibly defending. But he doesn't have the characteristics to defend Brunson.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: So for me, the big problem was the coach.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: What is the characteristic to defend Brunson? And the coach
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: didn't stop, man.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: He stayed with all the timeouts. But also Brunson, with
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: the movement, the work of his feet, not Harden. Harden
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: is a strong guy. Harden is a guy who will
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: never be a great defender. But if you want to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: use him to defend, you have to be against less
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: mobile players.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: And not Bronson. Bronson is an angle guy. He finds
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: angles in incredible ways.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: He has a fishing job that is one of the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: best in the league. And Harden and Atkinson, who is
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: the Cleveland's coach, apparently saw Harden doing well defending another
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: situation in the previous season and thought it was interesting,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: in the last quarter, to keep Harden on.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Top of Bronson.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: And he was humiliated. When Harden appeared in Houston, I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: swore that this guy would be top 5.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: But he was the assistant leader, the sixth in the league.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: He's going to be Hall of Fame, but he's not
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: going to have the championship ring like so many others.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: So many others, unfortunately. Besides being good, you have to
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: fit a team.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: Is New York stuck in the final?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: This first game is emblematic, man. Because you lost an advantage.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: There were seven minutes left and you won 21. And
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: you had a crushed Harden. Today, you play for the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: second time. If you go 2-0 to Cleveland, a hug.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: New York, the way it is, motivated, the sequence of victories.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I think New York will go to the final. But
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: I still think Thunder is the favorite to win the title.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I don't see a team winning four times. And for me,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: this issue of the cast, the Thunder.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Just to get hurt, right?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: And there's this thing in the NBA, and in the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: previous series of the Snicks, you have to remember, right, Bulga?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: The Philadelphia, you asked about Embiid, was humiliated. The crowd
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: was humiliated. Philadelphia is close to New York, right?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Very close.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: And a few years ago, there was a series between
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Knicks and Philadelphia, where the New York fans invaded the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia gym and it looked like they were playing at home.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Before this semifinal series started, which was broadcasted in New York,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Embiid publicly asked the fans not to sell their tickets,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: so we could have the Philadelphia fans at home to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: play against New York.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: It didn't work at all.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: O time foi varrido, foi humilhado em quadra e foi
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: humilhado nos ginásios também. E tem uma cena emblemática dos
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: torcedores de Philadelphia deixando a área da quadra and going
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: to a rolling staircase to get out of the gymnasium,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: the arena, and below there was a crowd of New
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: York fans, and the guys.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: From Philadelphia were scared to go down. One of the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: biggest humiliations in history. But how did it happen? Did
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: they release more tickets to New York? The guys sell
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: tickets too. They sell tickets. Like, we live in Philadelphia,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: we bought them, they.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Both are from New York, we sell them to them.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: They did it for them, and the ticket was 700 dollars.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: And they tried to hold it. This year they tried
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: to make a limitation that the sale was only for
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: those who were.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Residents in the Philadelphia area. Even so, it didn't help.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: But also, the Philadelphia fee to compete with Mallorca is difficult.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And it's close, by train, an hour and a half
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: to get to Philadelphia. No, by car, an hour and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: And little. We did it already, it's really close.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Damn, that's crazy, right? Because in Philadelphia, I was there recently,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: and the guys cheer.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: A lot there. Yes.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: For all sports.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, they're great. It's a sports complex, right? I've also
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: been there.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: There's basketball here, baseball here, American football on the side here.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: No, it's a traditional city. But.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: The Eagles there, for them, is a religion.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, a religion. But.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: There are the kids in baseball, there are Flyers in
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the NHL. But when you face New York, it's suffering.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: And look what they had won, won Boston. And Philadelphia
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: has a great franchise in Boston. The last time Philadelphia
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: won a Boston series was in 1982, the year I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: was born. So it was more than 40 years and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: they finally.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Won that 4x3. I want to go back to LeBron's question.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Because you were going to ask something too.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Another one, but I was going to talk about LeBron too,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: but about Luka Dondi, who went to the Lakers there.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: What did you think of that and how is he currently?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we had this conclusion now, because the month of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: March in Buga was historic. Wow. Historic. He did more
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: in March than Anthony Davis, who went to Dallas, did
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: in his visit to Dallas.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: When he went to the Lakers, did you say, wow,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: he's going crazy, or did you think it was cool
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: when he went?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: The part of who? The part of the Lakers, right? No,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: the part of Dallas. Dallas was crazy. Crazy, right? So
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: the guy was sent away afterwards. Who made the change.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: But why do you think he did that, man? For me,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: there's no reason.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Luka said he didn't want to.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: No, he cried. He just bought a house.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: He loves Dallas, right? He loved that one. But for me,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: it's like, you take the talent, I don't know, bringing
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: it to football, you take Yamal and change it for,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know, a guy who's stopping, who has a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: big name, but he's stopping.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: A guy with a history of injury that you say
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: he won't make it. He's hurt, Anthony Davis got hurt.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: He's always hurt. He came, played two or three games
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: and was already replaced. He's in Washington.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Do you believe there's a reason? Was it the guy's beer?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: It was Nico Harrison.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Why did he do that? Possibly. For me, it's the following.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Nico Harrison has a military history. Of discipline.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Physical discipline. And he's a radical in that sense. And
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Luka Doncic is great. He's a talent.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: He was chubby. He took care of himself.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: But his physical dedication was never even close to the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: requirement of a military concept. There's a classic scene when
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Dallas won the West Conference and went to the final
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: against Boston. But before, when they closed the West final series,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Luka Doncic was drinking a beer in the hallway and
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: a former player, Michael Finlay.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Who was... who was the manager of.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: who was working with Nick Harrison, he simply grabs the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: cup from Dante's hand. Dante makes a face like this. Like, man,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I just won the O.S. title that you didn't win.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: At that moment... Let me drink a beer. At that
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: moment it was a curious meme. But after all this happened,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: it made more sense, it gained another meaning, that. You
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: can see that it's beer, right? So I think that
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Nick Harrison.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: A guy radical in that sense, and exposed as a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: franchise that has no organization, as you give superpowers to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: a person while the other characters in the franchise are omitted.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: And everything comes together and this absurd happens, this chaos.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: It happened. There's a detail too, right? I don't know
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: if you already knew this, but Nico Harrison was the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: guy who made the presentation for Nike when Stephen Curry emerged.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: And he makes a bizarre presentation. A shitty presentation. So
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: much so that he used... Instead of putting... On the PowerPoint,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: let's say... Stephen Curry and stuff... And make a presentation...
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: He used one that was ready... That had Kevin Durant's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: name on it. And he loses. Under Armour... Ends up
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: with Curry... Because of... Theoretically, Nick Harrison's bad traits. That
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: he was... Nike's manager. So, besides losing Curry to Under Armour...
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: He lost to Dante. He gave Dante to Dallas.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: It's not that he lost. He did. Because what it
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: says is that he picked up the phone and said, man,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: we have an interest in Anthony Davis. Is that true? So, Dante. Okay,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: let's go. Because there's also this thing. Man, the most
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: valuable guy in the league. There's this aspect. Man, like...
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: And then the guy wanted to prove himself.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Then Dallas had the historic luck of having the first
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: draft pick to pick Cooper Flagg.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Who is a figure.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, you guys are asking about North Americans. The hope
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: is Cooper Flagg, who was the rookie of the year
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: and who is from Dallas.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: And Dallas had... What was the percentage of Dallas? 1.8%.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: To be the first to pick. And he won.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Imagine if after all this he hadn't had this madness
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: of Cooper Flagg.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg must be sad.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: That it was Dallas that won Pick 1.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: But this week Dallas announced that the coach was fired.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Jason Kidd is no longer Dallas' coach. They also hired
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: a new general manager, who was from Toronto. And they're
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: going to find a new path with Cooper.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Flagg as a reference.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: He had a season without condition due to Achilles. But
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: now they're looking for another moment. But for me it's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: a lot in that sense. Because I was also... um
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: tempo pensando o porquê, alguma coisa racional para justificar aquela
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: troca que foi uma loucura. Eu, ironicamente, eu estava em
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Nova York naquela noite, eu tinha visto Lakers e Knicks
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: um sábado à noite, estava dando uns 12 negativos, It
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: was crazy. Ironically, I was in New York that night.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I had seen Lakers and Knicks on a Saturday night.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I was giving a negative 12. It was in January.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: I got to the hotel. My wife went to sleep.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I was on the computer around 1 a.m. Suddenly I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: see on the screen Don't Shit Changed.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: You didn't believe it. I had to check on others.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep. I think I went to sleep at
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: 6 a.m. The media was crazy. It was crazy.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Then I went to the NBA store the next morning,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Sunday morning, and I saw the time that a guy
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: from the NBA store climbed the escalator with a lot
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: of Donchett's shirts, from Dallas, to already put the liquidation.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable exchange. It's unbelievable.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: It's you get a suitcase with millions and millions and
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars and say,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: it's yours.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: It was mine, but it's yours. You get a prospect
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: from Palmeiras, get Alan and give it to Corinthians. What
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: is this?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: And what Nico Harrison kept saying, and mainly defense, we
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: need defense, which was a way of criticizing what? The
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: lack of physical commitment of Luka Doncic. But he got
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: more and more lonely, so much so that there was
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: a collective that Jason Kidd didn't want to mix his speech,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: because it looked like Jason Kidd had accepted, no, I
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: didn't have any involvement, I'm a technician.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: He was completely isolated.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: He still survived the first pick, Cooper Flagg. But because
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: of the injury, Anthony Davis couldn't play, Curry.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: There was a moment when... There was no way he
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: could continue. Horrible, too bad. And possibly, this guy won't
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: get a job anywhere. He put in his resume, I
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: lost Curry to Under Armour, by Nike, and I gave
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Lucas Dotes to the Lakers as a gift. Wow, what
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: a shitty curriculum. Horrible. Horrible. Simple like that.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: I want to go back to Lebron's question.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Ask then, Engão.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: I'm going to ask now.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: But what did you ask at that time? It was Luca's.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: It was Luca's. We imagine that you are Lebron James. Again? Yes.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: You would do the last season. Go to Cavs, go
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: to Miami, stay at the Lakers and set up a
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: team and try to win with the Lakers, or disengage
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: from the title. I want to know what you would
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: do and what you think LeBron is imagining, because I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: think he wants to end his career being crowned.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: In some way.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: No, certainly the last season of LeBron will be a
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: tour season, farewell, farewell of LeBron.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Do you believe he'll go back to Cavs? I don't know,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: I'm speculating.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes. Playing with Curry. It's because he's in crypto too. Yes,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: but playing with Curry, the guys who were born in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the same maternity. That would be crazy. But I think
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen is this, in two years, Steve
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Carey just renewed for two years. They're going to own
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: the Las Vegas franchise. They have to stop playing. The
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: two of them together. They have to stop playing. They
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: will stop playing. In two years, the Las Vegas franchise
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: will come and they will take over the Las Vegas
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: franchise and get involved in basketball in this way. Curry
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: and LeBron? Curry and LeBron.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: Do you think they will be partners?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They will be owners of Las Vegas. Now,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: frame it. I liked this idea. Who wouldn't want to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: play for the two of them? And then you can
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: already build a city that Las Vegas already has. It
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: will be Seattle and Las Vegas. The NHL team was
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: champion in the second and third season of existence. The
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Raiders went to Las Vegas. You have the Oakland Athletics
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: of baseball going to Las Vegas. The UFC is always
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. The UFC is the home of the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: UFC in Las Vegas. You have the Las Vegas Aces,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: which is a great team. The best player in the
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: history of the WNBA. Man, there's going to be a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: basketball team being the owner. The Golden Knights. Can you
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: imagine LeBron and Kerry Doros from a Las Vegas team
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: in such a profitable market? It would be absurd. Who
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to play there? I liked the idea of
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: LeBron and Kerry together five years ago. Now I don't
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: like it anymore.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I think I don't like it because... Because it's not competitive.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: One is with 38, the other with 41. There are
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: already physical issues. For me, I would like Kerry... For
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: the brand, yes. For the brand, yes, but it would
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: last a little. Imagine them together in 2018.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, but not now.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: I would like Curry to have a company still in
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: this career path of a superstar with a slightly younger age.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: For example, Yannis. Yannis with Curry. I would really like that.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I think he's going somewhere. I still hope for Golden State,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: even though he says he's going to Leicester, anyway. But
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: LeBron and Carey, I think it's over. This story is over.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: To put them together.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: It can't be either Cavaliers or Golden State. Because I
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: think one.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Would betray the other a lot. But I can't imagine
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Carey outside of Golden State. He'll only run for Golden State.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Steve Carey announced two years ago. I can't imagine LeBron
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: in Golden State. No, before I imagined him with Carey.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: But not now. And leaving the Lakers. I think he'll
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: go to Cavs. I think he'll go back there. It's
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: very likely. But I would also like to have a team, bro. Cool.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Because we're going to Cavaliers. That sadness of the city.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: It's already at the end of the conference. No, the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: city really is not a paradise city. But it's where
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: he was born, right?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: I talk about it like this. People say that there
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: in Cleveland it's like.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: Old people on the street. There's nothing to do. It's
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: five in the afternoon, there's no more noise, there's nothing.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: I went there once just in the late 2018.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: It was the first time I talked crazy. And it
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: really is that. But there was LeBron, right? There was LeBron.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: There could be another one. I don't know.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: I'd just like him to stay for another two years.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Because I'm not ready yet.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: For the news. Like he did a prank. Before the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: season started. Last year he did a prank. What did
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: he do?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: He threw the.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: The old barrel. What was that prank?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: The prank that one day before he said that.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: There was a....
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: He was going to make a very important announcement. And
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: he said it in a way that looked like what
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: he did when he left Cleveland to go to Miami
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: in 2010. He made an announcement, the announcement, he said,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I'm taking my talents to South Beach. He did this,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: he was very criticized at the time, including. So he
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: played with it, more than a decade later, and created
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: a climate. And as, evidently, everyone already imagines that at
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: some point he will stop, For 24 hours, a lot
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: of people thought that. Then came a publicity.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Even you thought? I was a little scared. I said,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not prepared for this.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: So I'd like at least two years of him.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: And that there's a season... Damn, two years is a lot.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: But two years is a lot. He's not going to
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: play 82 games.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: And that it's, as it usually is, every great American star,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: who has a great longevity in his career, reserves the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: last year to announce before the season, here, look. This
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: is my last season. So every game he visits the city,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: he receives a gift.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: It's a final. He's honored. Several players like that. Wow,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: he's back in Cleveland now. It was crazy.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: It always is, right? So I hope he does that.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant was like that until his last game in 2016.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: In baseball, there are several cases like that. There's a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: great baseball ambassador, Mariano Rivera. In every stadium, every ballpark there,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: he received a gift. There was a It was supposed
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: to be a chair made out of broken sticks. Because
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: the great thing about a chute is to throw a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: kind of throw called currier, which, when well executed, the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: stick breaks in half.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: So he received presents in every stadium, every ballpark. I
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: imagine that Lebron would.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: Be like that too.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Ah, no, it has to be. I think it has
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: to be. By the size of it.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: It has to be like that.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Do you think Lebron will go until 2029, 2028? Two
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: years of administration.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: Just for you to prepare.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: That's it, please. Okay, fuck it. And apparently, LeBron and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Curry can have this farewell in the same season.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people watching this podcast that watch NBA,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: but have no idea what NBA is without LeBron. They
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: think it doesn't exist. LeBron will leave and it's over.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: He's been here since 2003. There's a lot of people
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: who don't know what it is.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: 25 years, 25 seasons, what is this, Mítico? And will
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: there be two more? How is his expectation? I think
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: there will be two more. He's 38.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: And Keir signed the coach for two more years. He
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: has a lot of knee problems. But when he comes back,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: he comes back playing too much. But then he comes
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: back with a knee pain and he's out for a week.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: But I think two more years. Wow, but I was
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: excited about what Bugarelli said about the Las Vegas team,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: if that's true.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: With the guys being... Donos? Donos. Very likely.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: My brothers, you who have been following basketball for a
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: long time, and not only NBA. We also talked about
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: it with Gui.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Who was Oskar Schmidt?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: For us to explain to the people who only follow NBA.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: What is the size of this guy? What is the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: size of this athlete? We were talking about athletes, as
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Romulo said, of LeBron. And I see that Oskar was
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: also this guy of dedication and such.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Yes. Talk about the legacy of Oscar Schmidt, please. Oscar,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: even the phrase that we've used in some other opportunities,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: in other cases, the guy is not the best, but
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: certainly he was the guy who dedicated himself the most.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: He said that, Tadeu Schmidt said that on the day
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: he passed away. I had the pleasure of working with Oscar,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: on TV Record. Oscar was hired for that Olympic cycle
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: that Record had taken from Globo. So he went with
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: us to Vancouver in 2010, Winter Olympics. He went to
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Guadalajara in 2011 at PAN and went to London in
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: 2012 as a commentator. And, like, cancer changed Oscar a
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: lot too, man. Oscar became a completely different person, a
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: guy who was always very focused, very quiet, very cow-like.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: But from the moment he had cancer, man, he became... Man,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: sometimes it happens something, unfortunately, this big with him, for him, sometimes, too,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: to fall a little into reality and say, like, man,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I'm an idol... I remember he said he regretted getting
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: involved in politics. He said if there's a regret in life,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: he said that. He was a candidate for the Senate. Yeah,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: he was a candidate for the Senate. He was kind
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: of manipulated. He entered like... Because Oscar was always a Brazilian, right, man?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: He always had this relationship with Brazil. I think he thought,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to save my country. I'm going to help
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: my country. But the business around him is so... He's
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: so rotten. He's so rotten that when he called, he said,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I fell in a... He just wanted to be president.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: There's an interview of him saying that. And then he
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: became a very accessible guy, very affectionate. I remember an
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: episode in Vancouver where he asked me and Márcio, my
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: wife Cat, how many people are there in Record? 78 people.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I asked if they could help me. He went to
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: a Tim Hortons, like a Starbucks in Canada. Only this
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Tim Hortons. He bought 78 muffins, coffees, and we came
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: to Vancouver in the cold, driving on the street. to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: take everyone to the table and say, guys, you need
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: to eat to perform well here, the cameraman, the cameraman,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: the TV director, you know, the president. So, like, he...
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: But I think it's the dedication, man. This passion he
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: had to want to be the best pitcher. And, like,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: as a basketball player, I used to fill his bag
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: a lot. I was like, damn, Oscar... You must have
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: given about 20 assists in your career. You didn't pass
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: the ball to anyone, you kicked all of them. He said,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: you kicked because I trained a thousand balls a day.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: That story is true. And I also had contact with
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: the crisis. I remember having been part of an interview,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: me with André Furin, at ESPN in 2002, in Indianapolis.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: We were there because of the World Cup. And the
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: gym that Brazil beat the United States in the Pan
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: 87 turned into a stone station. Romulo was there in
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis recently and also made material. I went there, I
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: went there. Prime Video. And he's walking around there, and
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: the respect they have for him. He wasn't a world champion,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: he wasn't an Olympic champion, but the fact that he
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: won in the United States, man, I think he's even
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: more valued abroad than here in Brazil. I saw there, I.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: Don't know what year it was, but it's a place
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: where he goes there to talk about the NBA, he's
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: from Boi Ninha, like that. And I saw everyone looking
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: at him like, man, it's Oscar who's there. Respect this guy, this.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Guy is really great. Wasn't it in the Hall of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Fame speech?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: I think it was, because he's got a.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: It's the same, it's the same.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: And then I was shocked that, not now that he
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: passed away, but when I started to hear about Oscar,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: people were like, no, he's the second biggest scorer in
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: the history of basketball.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Lebron passed now. Was it him? Who?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: It's Lebron who passed, combining points. No, he's the biggest
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: scorer in the history of the Olympic Games, it's Oscar.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: In general, and also in a single game. In a
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: single game, 55 points against Spain.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: In 88, in Seoul. And the game that Brazil lost, right?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: The game that Brazil lost. 88 was the year... Exactly,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: 88 was the year in which Brazil had a great
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: chance of winning the Olympic medal. He was Pan American
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: champion in 87, he was playing at that level.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: But this defeat against Spain in the first phase, on
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: the crossing, Brazil played against the Soviet Union, a very
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: balanced game, it's on YouTube, this game. And the Soviet
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Union ended up winning, but it was a very tight game.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: And the Soviet Union was the Olympic champion. Brazil almost
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: won the team that, two games later, won the gold.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: It was a great chance. But it was a question.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: The United States, the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia. And Brazil almost
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: entered this story.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Every day he talked about a play on the right
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: side against the Soviet Union, that he missed a throw.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even a three-pointer. It was a throw closer
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: between the dead zone and the basket. And he said,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: there's not a single day that I don't remember this throw.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Because if he had converted this throw, Brazil could have won.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: And then he would fight, he was already going to
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: the semifinal, he would fight for a medal. It was
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: the closest moment he felt to have. Of the Olympics.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: And of the Olympics.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: It's because before 1986, Brazil was in fourth. It was
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: also in the semifinal. Brazil was also in fourth in 1986.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Brazil at that time... It was, it was at the top.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's what makes me fall in love with basketball.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Because Brazil comes... of a world championship, 58, 63, which
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: I don't see, obviously, because I was born in 71,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: but in the 80s, Brazil was one of the four
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: potencies of basketball, man. Brazil is bronze in the Philippines,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: in the world championship in 78, and then the guy
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: gets lost. And then there was also an aspect that
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I think... And it's not Oscar's fault, right? But this
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: is my opinion, from those who watched and watched a
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: lot of games at the gym. I think we were
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: looking for a new Oscar. And there are some people,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: some stars, some idols, that are irreplaceable. You can't find
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: a new Hortência, a new Paula, on the streets. You know?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: It's not that easy. And we were looking for a
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: new Oscar, a guy who could score three goals. And
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: we had some cases We had talented players, but we
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: were orphans. Because when he stopped in 1996 at the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Olympic Games, we were three Olympic Games without going. Because
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: we lost that sense. We stopped playing in transition, from
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: being a collective basketball team and bringing that expo. Oscar
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: was a guy with 40 points per game, but I'm
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: going to say here that someone can say like this, damn,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Buga is talking about this now, that the guy died. No,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: I said that to him. I said like this, Oscar,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: but today basketball, we're seeing Oklahoma. Basketball is not just
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: about attacking, it's not just about putting the ball on
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: the basket. You can win if you don't put the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: ball on the basket so much. If you defend, you
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: don't need to put it so much. And Oscar was
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: a guy who had the freedom to score. But he
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: was never a great defender. So he never was a
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: top 10. He said that. I'm not one of the
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: 20 best players in history. More complete. But he was
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: a pitcher. To put the ball on the basket, my brother.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: He's a top 5 shot. And basketball is cruel too.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: Basketball is cruel because....
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: The Olympic spot in basketball is very complicated. There are
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: very few teams, only 12, and a very limited number
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: per continent. So, in each Olympic tournament, many traditional teams
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: are out. And in America, the American team already has
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: a guaranteed spot, always. Especially when the professionals are released. Then,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: in the 2000s, the historic generation of Argentina emerged, which
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: will go to the Olympic gold in 2004. So the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: challenge of conquering a spot, too, Compared to sports, I
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: have a conviction that it was bigger.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: And then you have, sometimes, the pre-Olympic, the pre-World Cup,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: which can have other continents. Then you have the separation
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: of the Soviet Union, which several.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Yugoslavia also, it became Croatia, Slovenia.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Each country of this, which were two powers, you had
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: in the 80s, Brazil, the United States, the Soviet Union
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: and Yugoslavia. With the wars, Yugoslavia became five and the
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Soviet Union became five. the Olympics in France with 10
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: players in Italy also disputed Germany is the current world
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: champion European Canada that is now full of Canada is.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: Getting more and more open several countries but we Brazil
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: is not coming right Well the last.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Olympic tournament Brazil arrived in the quarterfinals and achieved the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: World Pre-Olympic classification in Letonia a historic victory and arrived
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: in the quarterfinals but it really It's a cruel world
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: of men's basketball. It's a lot of teams. Especially the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: European East with this division. It's very balanced. It's a
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: very big battle. There's no way to guarantee anything before the.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Olympic tournament now for Los Angeles in 28. There's no way.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: Now we have a very good generation coming. Even because
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: of the NCAA too. It has changed a little bit
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: the aspect of... The guys are already starting to make
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: money there in college basketball. But I think there's a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: lack of exchange. I think the main stars, for example,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: the CT1... Jorginho is extremely dominant here at the NBB.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: He played very little in Europe. I think that the
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: great talents that appear here, they have to test themselves.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: To have these clashes against the high level, both in
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: Europe and at the NBB, at the University, wherever it is.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Oscar played for a long time in Italy. Exactly. Oscar,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: for example, when we participated once in Bola da Vez,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: in Hortência, And I told Hortência, you and Paula are
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: my biggest basketball heroes. Because Oscar was already in Italy
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: when Buga was 13 years old. Israel, Marcel... So I
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: saw Paula and Hortência here, and basketball in Brazil was
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: very strong. So many American players came here to play.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Janete's partner was a WNBA champion, Cynthia Cooper, and she
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: played in Brazil. So many players came to play here
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: in Brazil. And you had this rivalry between Paula and Hortensia,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: and both were exceptional players. They just weren't bigger because
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: WNBA didn't exist at the time. And look both of
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: them were invited to WNBA, especially Paula, because when Hortência
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: was silver in Atlanta, she was already a mother. So
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: much so that she took her son to Atlanta. After
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: she finished her career. Yeah, because she had already finished
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: her career and came back to play an Olympic Games.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: And it was a silver medal. She said she was
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: leaving Parque Olímpico to breastfeed. To breastfeed. To breastfeed, so....
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: To sum it up, Oscar was a historic name, with
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: a huge respect for NBA players. Every game he played
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: in Barcelona in 1992, you could see Larry Bird on
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: the court. Scottie Depp in Atlanta in 1996. It's a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: historic name. When he died, NBA and NBA TV made
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: videos quoting the main NBA coverage sites around the world.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: They quoted it. The Brazilian legend dies. It's a historic name.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: American journalists who covered the Pan de 87. Steve Kerr,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: who tells that story of being rescued by Oscar in
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: the World Cup of 86, that Kerr gets hurt, that
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Oscar helps him, carrying him.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: It's the basic photo of Oscar carrying Steve Kerr, then
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: a player in the World Cup of 86, that he
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: had broken the ligament of his knee.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: So, yes, monstrous.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: Oscar Schmidt, thank you very much for that. I have
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: questions for you to answer faster.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Impossible. It's impossible, he talks a lot. Let's see then.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: I want to know if you like it or not.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Look at this. Hunger in the world. There's no way
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: to like it. This is the problem with Raul Gil.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Come with us, trust me. I'm against violence. I'm against corruption.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: I'm already eating here. Romulo Mendoza. I have no doubt.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: Do you like Vitor's defense against Tijuana?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Fuck. I liked it too much! I was on the sofa,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: I fell on the floor watching this game. It was
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: in São Paulo. The game was in BH, right?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: I fell and I was stuck on the floor for
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: about 10 minutes.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: Bulgarelli, do you like Romarinho's cavadinha?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Ah, wonderful. Sensational. Romarinho! What is this, man?
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: Do you like Neymar being called?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Loro José. Even Broxo, you know? Neymar
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: being called, even Broxo. I also think he shouldn't be called.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Do you like or don't like Loro José?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Loro José?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Loro José already passed away, so it's disrespectful, because now
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: it's Loro Mané.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Mané? Do you like Zé Gotinha or not? Of course,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Zé Gotinha saves lives. Cruzeiro, 6x1 at Atlético? Tears that
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: come out.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: Dogão com purê?
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: No, I don't eat. I'm not from São Paulo, I'm
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: from Minas. How is the hot dog there in Minas?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: There's no purê, no.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: There's tropeiro beans, there's.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, not with the hot dog. But there's
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: no such mixture. I like a puree, a greek rice
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: and a fillet. Now, I don't like hot dog.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: You don't like it?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: No. What's that? I don't like it, man. I don't
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: like it. I'm fat, like other things. My thing is
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: ice cream, man.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: My thing is ice cream, too.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Ice cream, basketball and dog, man. Fuck! All together. No.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: All together. Woman, right? Yes. Also, all together. But mine
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: is here.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: Tell me an ice cream that you like, like, a
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: thing like that. What do you like?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Do you like flocos, with canudinhos or M & M' s? No,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: just the ice cream, man. A good taste. A good taste. Ah...
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: I like most of them. I'm an ice cream guy.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: I have some really good ice creams. That's what I
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: want to know. I love ice cream. I eat a
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: lot of ice cream. Sorry. Ice cream, basketball and dogs.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to be a veterinarian. I'm in love.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: I have two dogs. LeBron James, Block by James, and
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, who is Jordan. He has a beard, right? Black, little.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: And grisalho. Grisalho, old man. He's got a grisalho on
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: his chest, like that.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: He's a Scott Terrier, a little one.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: He really hits the ball.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: Mount the best team in NBA history.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: I came back last time here, from what I saw playing.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about what I saw playing, from the
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: current team, from the current and from the history, I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: want both. So from the history, it's from what I
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: saw playing, okay?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: From what I saw playing.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going from Magic Johnson at 1, Michael Jordan at 2,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: LeBron at 3, Tim Duncan at 4, Rakim Olajuwon at 5.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: I want to see if you're the team winning him.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: It's because I said the same thing. Is it the same?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Do you guys share the same thing? We practically share
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Larry Bird is in the place of
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: LeBron James, because LeBron hasn't retired yet. Because normally I
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: talk about the guys who retired. Then I put Larry
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Bird on the 3. Now, the guy who says that
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: Curry is the greatest armador in history, the guy doesn't
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: know anything about basketball. Because Curry is not an armador.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: Curry is a shooting guard. He is a ball killer.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? That he is a monster. Now,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: as an armador, he facilitates the ball. Curry is the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: most evolution of Gostkarschmidt.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: O maior armador da história é o Magic Johnson. De
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: armador é o Magic Johnson.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: E se você fala pra mim que o Magic Johnson
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: é o maior jogador da história da NBA, eu vou
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: respeitar a sua opinião. Porque ele é mais completo. O
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Curry é o maior arremessador.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: Mas também é um cara com uma questão física histórica também.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Porque ele é o maior arremessador também porque ele tem
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: um deslocamento de quadra incessante que enlouquece o adversário como
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: nunca se viu antes na história da NBA.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Perfeito.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: Tá, mas não dá pra colocar Curry e LeBron na
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: mesma prateleira pra competir. to discuss who are the two
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: are top 10 ok beauty two are top 10 history
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: but yes but maybe the lebron top 2 is.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: The lebron is more complete is more complete.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: But if it were to assemble the best of today
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: that are still in activity.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: The yoke is the best pivot that is the day
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: of the night I agree the yoke is the chouché
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: of course right of two mvps is the protagonist of
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: the team that I'm the champion and can be champion.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: Yannis A4, is it? Not just by statistics, it goes
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: in the heart.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: I want to see.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: No, because also Luka Doncic, for me, what he played
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: in March, for me, is historic. So Jokic, Doncic, Shea...
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Only foreigners.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Only foreigners. There's no American. It's hard. Yannis, yes, but
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: he has to be a little healthier, right?
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: Because he's always the object of desire, but he's also
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: hurting the team.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Kawhi, man.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: I like him too.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: I like Kawhi.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: He also has this issue of contusion. He played a
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: lot in the last season. He played a lot. And
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Kawhi is a versatile guy. He's a guy you can
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: fit in any position. If you want to put him
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: in the 4, playing a small, he'll play. Kawhi is
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: a monster. A monster. I'm going to close, then. Yannis, Jokic, Shea, Donchic. Donchic, Kawhi. Damn. But, quote.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: I didn't imagine Kawhi.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: Quote for Jalen Brunson. who has played, is impressive, decisive, crucial. Yeah,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: he's not in that pattern. Three players who are too tasty.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: Basketball?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: Yes. I was going to say Gabigol, right? Because I
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: met Gabigol at the NBA House. I said, Gabigol, I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: can hug you, I want to know if you're too tasty,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: as Romulo says. He's too tasty. I can only say.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: I can only say Lebron, I can't say three here,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: because I've only said in my life once.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: One more time, only for the only player, for Lebron,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: for Gabigol too, but for NB I just called Lebron
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: from Gostoso, I'm not promiscuous, right?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: So I can only say Lebron.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: Juninho Xereca or Milton Caraglia?
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Juninho Xereca because I had the experience of narrating, he
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: didn't score that many goals, but the games that I
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: narrated from the Brazil Cup and Brasileirão no Amazon Prime,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: he entered the field and it looked like something predestined,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: he entered the field and scored.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: What a name, man. It's in the final of the Mexican, man.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: In the first game I called Juninho Xereca, then he
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: answering my mother's request in the second game.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: I called him Juninho Xexé and Juninho Xis. But I said,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: but if he scores a goal, I'll say his last
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: name again. Months passed, and a game against Sport, he
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: scored the goal, and then I shouted Juninho Xereca, which
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: is his last name. It was journalism only. Very good
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: this last name.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: An absurd promise you would make for Hexa.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm against it. The teacher in the afternoon said, children,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: let's watch Brazil and Spain today. Everyone, that little television.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: There's even a similar one in the living room. Yes.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: We visited here, wonderful living room. Did you like it, brother?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: What an environment, man. And congratulations here, the whole group
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: can go. Wonderful.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: And then the teacher on a black and white TV
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: watching Brazil and Spain. Then you look for this image.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: The guy from Spain is going to score a header.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: The defender who takes the ball from Brazil on top
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: of the line is Amaral, Corinthians' fourth defender. I shouted
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: the goal, and the teacher said, Ricardo, it was the
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: goal from Spain. I said, I know, teacher, I'm cheering
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: against it. She said, please, stay until the end of
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: the game, looking at the wall in that corner. What
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: was that? It was oppressive. Since 1978, I've already cheered
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: against it. But why? Because of the nonsense that is done.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: With technicians, with calls. This call from Neymar can't be... Rubens.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: I'll give you another good name too. Which is for
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: my father, who is still alive, 88 years old. A
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: kiss for him. I lost my mother a little over
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: a week ago. And my father is being gigantic. My
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: father is very strong. Strong. Força, Rubão. And may God
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: give you life and health, Rubão. Amen. And Atilio turned
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: to me and said, Rubens, I lived to see my
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: grandson shouting a goal against Brazil from Argentina. He said, Dad,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: don't fool Ricardo, because Ricardo torces against since 1978. And
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: keep on supporting. Keep on supporting. So I still hope
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: for a historic result. You said Brazil. You started in
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: your opening. Brazil will win against Morocco. Brazil loses 2-1
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: to Morocco, wins against Haiti, ties with Scotland and falls out.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: God forbid. Do you know why? Because Brazil needs to
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: come back. People want to kill classes, kill work. Start
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: looking at the calendar. It's only the first phase. It's
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: only the first phase. It's Monday, the eighth final. So,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: everyone wants to run away. They won't even work on Monday. No,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: you're going to be fucked.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: Back in my days, I used to work at McDonald's
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: and they made me watch 7-1 at the counter.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: You're going to be fucked, man. I swear to God. Man,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: I have another story. 7-1 was at Record. And when
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Neymar got hurt against Colombo, there was a lot of
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: crying in Record's sports newsroom. I said, fuck, are you crazy?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: There's going to be Bernard, there's I don't know who
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: else at the bench. I'm already imagining, I started creating
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: a story. Imagine, the guy who is going to enter,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: the guy goes there, scores the goal, starts to celebrate,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: starts to celebrate, and then, I started to count, the
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: guys started to imagine, and I said, cut to the
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: electronic scoreboard, Germany 6, Brazil 1. I put 6x1 on
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: the ball and lost by one goal. When the seventh
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: goal of Germany came out, I was pissed off at
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: the report. You had to balsam him. I swear to God.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: You posted 6x1. I posted 6x1 to Germany, man. The
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: guys wanted to kill me at the report. Son of
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: a bitch. My mother is no longer here, man. You
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: can curse. It's all right. Kiss, mom. I love you. No,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: calm down. I'm sorry. I'm kidding. I think he's good.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: NBA player who deserves to get a belt? There are several, huh?
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: No, I'm against violence. No, there are several aggressors. Ah,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: there are some vagabonds there, right? There are some vagabonds. Oh,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of aggressive players. So I'm going to
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: talk about the one who's demitting now, Jason Kidd. Miles Bridges.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: Jason Kidd was hitting a woman since 1998. Son of
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: a bitch. Miles Bridges too. There are several, man. Jackson Reyes.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: There are several. I like that he's going crazy. The
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: NBA and NFL, they pass a lot of hands on
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: the heads of these aggressors, man. So we have there that...
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: There are many, man. There are many cases, more than
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: we can imagine, man.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 4: Do you think they're very protected by being athletes? Of
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: course they are. Sometimes we don't even know.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: I get very pissed, for example, that Jason Kidd.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: In the case of Miles Bridges, there's a video of
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: him attacking his wife with a child by his side.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the kid asks him to stop, and the woman
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: is disfigured. She goes to... That's stupid. Thank you for
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: the question. It's a very crazy thing, because.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, when Terry Stotts left the portal, asked Jason
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Kidd to be his coach. And then, on Twitter, I
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: went as a fan. And I said, anyone is better
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: than Terry Stotts. And I was thinking of Jason Kidd
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: as a coach. And I, as a commentator, have to
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: separate one thing from the other. I'm talking as a coach.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: And then, I got a lot of insults from some fans,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: for example, from the Lakers. They said, you want to
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: give a job to a guy who is violent with
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: a woman, right? I said, man, the guy was Lakers'
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: assistant coach until the other day and no one said anything.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: The guy can do it for your team. For mine,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: he can't do it. And I'm talking about the guy
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: as a player, Jason Kidd was brilliant. As a coach,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: he was a shit. For me, I think he was
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: a terrible coach. So much so that now he was
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: fired and Dallas is capable of taking off. Now, as
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: a man, this guy had to be arrested. The fault
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: is not mine that the guy is employed. The fault
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: is of NB, of passing the hand on the head
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: of these guys. That's what the person at home has
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: to understand. Got it? That's the thing. Good. Who else
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: can you punish? What? You didn't answer. Aggressors. I mentioned
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Miles Bridges. There are several. A sexual fantasy. Look at that.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: To get rid of this climate, right?
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Look at that. The anti-hex climate. The anti-hex climate or
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: the climate of abuse? No.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: Do you have any fantasy, Mítico Jovem? Not yet realized?
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Because I thought it was funny the question about Neymar
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: for two people who are not.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: In favor of Neymar's nomination. The guy with anger. The
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: guy with anger.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: Anger.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Man, I don't know, a.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: A costume? No, I'm shy. A styrofoam? Can I ask
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: you something else? A bubble wrap? What's that? Are you noticing, Fernandinha?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Are you noticing the bubble wrap? A edible bikini. A
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: edible bikini.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: Sushi.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Sushi on the body.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: No, in this case, as he says it's dog.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Ice cream, everything is together. Ice cream is good.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: No, not dog. Are you crazy? Ice cream. Not that
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: the dog will participate actively. I've already taken a snag
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: in the ass in the middle of the sexual act.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: Porque o cachorro, né? Começa um movimento diferenciado no quarto
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: e o filho da puta foi lá e me deu
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: uma narigada no rabo. Pra ficar bravo.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: Essa história já contei no Jararacas. Inclusive amanhã, duas da tarde,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Jararacas Podcast.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: Jararacas Podcast amanhã. É nesse nível pra baixo. É nesse nível.
• 1:43:38
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• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: Onde que vocês veiculam Jararaca Podcast?
• 1:43:44
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• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: Duas da tarde. Que dia que é? Toda... A gente voltou.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: Agora pra essa fase final de NBA por um mês aí.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: Duas vezes por semana. Teve terça-feira, vai ter amanhã sexta-feira.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Acho que terça e sexta deve ser. E quando tiver
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: as finais, um dia depois de cada jogo.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Como o Prime faz as finais esse ano, inclusive. No
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: dia não do jogo, vocês estão lá. No dia seguinte
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: do jogo, a gente tá lá e repercute. Duas da tarde,
• 1:44:13
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• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: nas finais, né? Eu também tô torcendo.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: Pra mim, toda... Final, conference, Wednesday... For me, there's always
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: something for Game 7.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:44:26
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• 1:44:50
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• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: I want ice cream.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: Giant. I'll send it to you. And let's all support Hexa.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: Hexa will come. I don't know when, but it will come.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: This year it won't come. I think in 2082, 84,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Really? I think so. I've seen two. How many world
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: titles have you seen? I've seen one. How many years
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: did you have? Yeah, but that's what I mean.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: Do I remember?
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: In 2002, I was six years old.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: But you remember, then. Six years, you remember, right?
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: I remember the flash, man. I remember the flash of
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: my father waking me up to watch Brasil Inglaterra. And
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 4: I remember the flash of us going to the square
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: to watch the final. And after the celebration. But I
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: remember the one from 2006 that I was going to
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: live for real.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. What a nightmare. Traumatic. They made me go crazy.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: So, this party that CBF had reminded me a lot
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: of the preparation for the 2006 Cup.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Remember? This party. The party. This kind of crazy thing.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: The bridesmaids invading, lying down with Ronaldinho.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Damn, I remember that. Exxon wins this year. In Switzerland.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: I won't bet anything, because it's a competition of a month.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: And a competition of a month, a lot of things
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: can happen.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: And the competition is.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: Getting bigger and bigger. When Brazil won the Penta, it
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't a favorite. So that's what makes me.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: Cling to it.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: It's a competition of a month.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: So there's no way to bet neither for good nor
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: for bad.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: And Neymar... Family anti-elote? Let's see.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: I think he's focused on the next one too. Nothing
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: more than 30.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Neymar? Well, Neymar in 30 will be flying. The Cup
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: in the United States will be Brazil, right? Neymar in
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: 2030 will be awesome. You have to get used to it.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: I get used to it.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: When you get bad in the Cup, in the United States,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: you win.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: And in the end of 1994, it was Knicks and
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: Houston in the end, right? Knicks got to the end
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: and lost in game 7. 7 games. You're going to lose.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: It's all written. It's serious.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: If Knicks goes to the end and loses in game 7,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Brazil will change. Then you can order the belt. You
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: can send the 235 employees of Podpaco. And New York
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: will succumb. To take it there.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: They've been trying to finish the program for half an hour.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: They're sending us to Jararacas. Exactly. We can't finish.
• 1:46:56
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• 1:47:00
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• 1:47:03
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• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: follow the NBA. NBA is awesome. NBA Finals.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: There on Prime Video. Inclusive... Go to the NBA House, okay?
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: It's very wonderful.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: They even brought us the trophy. Larry O'Brien is there.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: The most desired.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: It's heavy. It's heavy, brother. You have to put on
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: the glove to get the Larry O'Brien.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I put on the glove.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful. And there's Alexa from Prime, I'll introduce her
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: I didn't want them to take Larry O'Brien back.
• 1:47:38
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• 1:47:40
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• 1:47:58
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• 1:47:59
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• 1:48:00
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• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: With Romulo Ipuga, today, hit today, viu? Yes. Hit today.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: And Mitch is going to jump from parachute. Ah, that's it,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: I do, I do. Bye, people. Dignity already. Good end
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: of the season. It's over, baby! It's over! First, the
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: captain for the team. Me. Cafu comes back to play
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: the captain's role. In second, a good passer. Zinho. Now,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: the one with six goals. Túlio Maravilha. They say I
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: have this mania.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: And to close the magic.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: Square, Renato Gaúcho. I guarantee it. Come on, pass the ball.
• 1:48:47
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• 1:48:59
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• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: Nunca entenderão. Guaraná Antarctica. Sente de torcer é coisa nossa.