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VAR ROBBERY ❌ | Bournemouth 2-2 Man Utd Review | Penalty Drama & Cunha Masterclass · The Fellow Reds Podcast - Manchester United

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How is it not a penalty? It was worse than the one that
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McGuire gave away. OK, it's just a bottle job.
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I'm having a little run. I saw like Arsenal fans leaving
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after 85 minutes and that makes no sense.
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I'm planning to hopefully win this.
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I'm going to stay in the stadium for the celebration.
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I'm going to have some bad afterwards.
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How are we, fellow Reds? And welcome to this latest match
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review of the game against Bournemouth on Friday with
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myself, Span and Chaz. As always, if you subscribed,
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Jazz. We've waited a few days since
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since the game for different reasons.
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I think we're a little bit disappointed about the result,
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but now we've kind of seen the weekend.
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Not too bad is my overriding feeling.
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How about you? Yeah.
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So obviously we'll get into the game itself, but very frustrated
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after that game on on Friday, missed opportunity.
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And I was worried that, yeah, our rivals are going to close in
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on us, but they're sitting here now, like, pretty positive.
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Like we gain points on most of our rivals.
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So yeah, like, it's definitely changed my perspective on the
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result and how I'm feeling going to this gigantic break.
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I don't feel quite as depressed as I would have done if we'd got
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the draw and everyone else in one.
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And they did all close the gap. So yeah, I'm feeling better
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about it. I'll get into why I'm still
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frustrated because, again, I thought we did pretty well.
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So yeah, I think you'll probably agree as well.
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Big time, big time. I think we're recording this on
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on the Monday, but if we'd have recorded this on the Friday
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straight after the game, I think, yeah, from our messages
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to each other, we were both a little bit like, you know,
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missed opportunity and a shame. But then, yeah, obviously
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fantastically Liverpool lose 2 on at Brighton and Chelsea.
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Yeah, Danny Welbeck. Well, let me just touch on that
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as well. So I did some fantasy football
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sabotage, which you should be grateful for, Chaz, because I
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basically chucked 3 Liverpool players in.
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I chucked in Virgil Frimpong and Swazilai.
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I did the same. Did you?
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Yeah, I had Virgil. I can never say his name.
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Slobber's Lie. And I can't say his name either.
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I got him in and they all did a rubbish so ideal.
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Yeah, yeah. And guess who I took out of my
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team? Danny Welbeck.
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I did. Yes, I did.
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Yes, I did. So absolute sabotage for me for
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fantasy Premier League but very happy.
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United fans appreciate your efforts.
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Thank you. Thank you very much, fellow
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Reds. You are welcome.
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You're welcome. And then Chelsea got a funk.
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Three nil. Everton.
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Yeah. That's like I thought that,
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well, I think we said on the last pod that's that's a tricky
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game for Chelsea, especially after whatever's going to happen
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in the midweek when they got absolutely batted.
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Yeah. And you thought they'd have a
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response. But like teams like Everton can
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be a top team, top team. And but normally it's like a
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scrape, like a one nil or A-21 or like they did against this,
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that one nil. But like they battered them like
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3 nil. Like David, Brent is probably
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going to be in trouble soon, isn't he?
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I think, yeah, you nailed. I think the pressure is really
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going to pile on him now, particularly after, you know,
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the Champions League stuff against PSG and you know how
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much they got thumped there. I think they're going to be in a
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little bit of bother. So good to see that.
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And then I hope this doesn't come.
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Yeah, I hope this doesn't come back to bite me.
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But obviously Villa did win 2 nil at home to West Ham, which
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is a bit of a shame, but again, going to tentatively say it is.
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But I just feel a little bit less worried about then than the
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likes of Liverpool and maybe even Chelsea.
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Is that fair? Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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Like you kind of expect them to beat West Ham at home.
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And I just think, I think obviously we said it last week,
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I think we'd happy for them to finish 5th or 4th and kick one
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of the other ones out. Yeah, But I'm not too worried
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about them going past us. I think, I think if they get
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kind of Champions League football, I think they'll just
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nip in. I don't think they'll be kind of
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coming third. I think we'll keep seeing like
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the drop off and that we have been seeing.
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So I just don't think they're quite as good of us.
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But I guess we said it the other day like they got McGinn back
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starting. He obviously scored, so he does
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make an impact. So maybe when they get more
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players back from injury they can put a run together and
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hopefully they will kind of come for for 5th and we keep that
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third spot. Yeah, no, I agree.
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I agree. You know, as long as Ollie
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Watkins doesn't just decide to start scoring again like she did
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against West Ham. I was, if I, if you had to ask
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me, you know, before the weekend to pick some team to lose and
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one of them had to win, I probably would have done it this
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way around. Yeah, exactly.
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I. Think fingers crossed, it looks
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like a decent decent point in the end.
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Doesn't keep some, keeps some distance.
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But diving, diving into the match, I'm not, I'm not sure
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how. We didn't really, really win it
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to be honest. Then I'm trying.
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Not to go I'm. Going to.
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Be that I am going to be that guy I am blaming.
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I know you want to be like, oh, I don't want to blame referees
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of AI and IA 100% want to blame the AI referees because like
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that was a joke, absolute joke. Like I'm fine with the Maguire
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being a penalty if the Ahmad one's a penalty.
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If anything, the Ahmad one was worse because there was two.
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He pulled him, then he pushed him with two hands.
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Like it doesn't matter that they've obviously done it
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because they've already given United a penalty.
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So just bottled it's complete bottle job from the referee in
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VAR. And it's all more so that they
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didn't want to cancel out Bournemouth skull.
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So even more reason why they didn't look at it and give it
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penalty to overturn a goal and give a penalty, it's just a
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pretty bottle job. But you can't look at the rules
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of football like that. The rules of football should be
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this is the rule. Nothing should infer to
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interfere with that. OK, that's the rule.
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It's a foul or it's a penalty or it's a card.
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It's not. But yeah, I'm still getting
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rowed by it because I thought we actually played pretty well for
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most of that kind of point before, before the red card and
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we played some nice football and we weren't amazing, but we were
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we were pretty decent. I thought we desert, we created
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the better chances. I think they had all their shots
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pretty much after the red cards where we kind of when we were
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holding on. And so, yeah, in my head, it's
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the AR to United to I. Love it just straight in
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straight in. No, to be fair, yeah, I I
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thought we played really well as well.
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Obviously we're getting to the moments in a in a little bit,
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but I've seen like, I mean, you cannot see this guy.
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Can you go Goldbridge as well? Just like slamming how we
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performed. I think Gary Neville had some
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questionable comments earlier on as well.
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I literally was watching like some of that first half and and
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into the second-half as well, thinking we'll play some great
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stuff here, like how we were. Moving the ball, We're going to
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score here, yeah. Yeah, we were on the front for
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like passing between us. It was some of the best I've
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seen us play. So, so many people say in the
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opposite. I was like, what am I just
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roasting? Yeah, I think they just.
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Like there was so, so many kind of near misses.
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Like there was that one ball where Ahmad was basically
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through, but he had an awful first touch and then there was
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some good stays from the keeper, some really good blocks.
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I don't because they didn't get become like shots from Tigers
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and I don't know if they're people getting kind of dissuaded
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by the stats wasn't like that, but we were playing good
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football and and looked like good attacking football.
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I didn't think they were really creating much either and they
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had the odd spell here and there, but lemons made some
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decent saves but nothing like there was not like a barrage of
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one on ones and crazy world class sages happened to make.
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So yeah, I don't really get where the negativity was coming
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from in terms of our performance.
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I didn't see it like that. Right.
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Yeah. I thought we I think I think we
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would have won the game even if they had say it was 22 and
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McGuire stayed on. But I don't disagree that that
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was a red card because it was last man.
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But if that did happen, I think we still would have gone on to
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win. So I think we were playing the
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better football, but I think we just got kind of, yeah,
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completely shafted by the refs essentially because it just,
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it's basically a three goal swing right from the Amazon
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where we should have scored and then we should have been tuned a
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lot and that one got cancelled out.
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It's yeah. Yeah, I was having a little
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think about over the weekend as well, trying to digest our
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result and then when I saw Liverpool's come through in
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Chelsea as well, I was thinking Premier League's hard, isn't it?
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Is I think part of it because obviously we've been United fans
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for a while as well and we remember a time when we just win
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every week, you know what I mean?
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And obviously not, we've not been that team for a long time.
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But even if you look at the top of the table now as well with
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like Arsenal and City battling it out, it's it's a point away
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at Bournemouth who are not getting beat like actually a
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decent point when you look around the Premier League.
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I think sometimes now we've just got to change our thinking
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around A, the Premier League is totally different to what it
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used to be. So there were some teams that
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were just there for the taking. Weren't in most weeks.
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Yeah, yeah. And then B, we just win all the
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time. And so I still go into games now
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with that mentality thinking when Man United, anything other
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than a win is bad. And don't you still want to keep
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that And you want to keep that focus on wins and look at the
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record that Carrick's had. No, since he started it's been
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very good. But Premier League's tough and I
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think we're finding it and you all get into the moment.
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So we'll definitely like pick out some of this VAR stuff
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because I'm with you, Jazz. But just an overriding feeling
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around this weekend a little bit, just a bit of a the Premier
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League stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, look at but that's I think born for unbeaten and I don't
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know if that was 10 or 11 now, but it shows.
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And then what I think that pretty much bang on the middle
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mid table. So like there's so many good
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players in the league now. It's only like the Burnley's and
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then the Wolves and even they've had a bit of research.
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They're the teams you kind of get beaten every week, but
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everyone else can kind of you're full of Mr. Brentford's everyone
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Everton, like Forest can turn up.
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There's there's no real easy games within the odd like the
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Burnley's. And even then they they kind of
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battled. So yeah, I agree completely.
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Like, yeah, reframing it particularly retrospectively,
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like, yeah, a decent point, especially with the way things
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have panned out over the weekend.
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With the context, yeah, yeah, but not our predictions of our
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our bets went just so the first time this this round we made
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some predictions and we also put just a couple of quid behind it
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just for a bit of fun. So you said to one win Cesco
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Cunha, Evan Nielsen, obviously you're nearly right and you have
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an Easel Nielsen thing as he as he went through on goal and I
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said two nil Sesko and I suggested a Harry McGuire
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moment. And now I feel bad because he
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definitely has a moment, just not the moment I hoped for.
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Well, I think, I think most people on TV, when I was
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watching on TV in the stadium, I think thought Harry did get the
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goal because he celebrated like he scored but obviously didn't
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touch it. So fair play to me.
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And then, yeah, you jinxed them into a red card.
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So nice one. I did jinx him.
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Yeah. We had a little moment, then we
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went when I thought it's God, there's a lot of.
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I get it. And I was like, no way.
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I'm like that. What was it, that World Cup
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octopus? So you can just, like, predict
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stuff. What was.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So was it? Was it Paul?
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Then I thought I might be dreaming.
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Put in the comments, Put it in the comments.
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If you remember, the octopus was even an octopus.
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I can't even remember anymore. How was an octopus was that?
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I thought I was that guy and turns out I was the absolute
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grim Reaper instead. And it's not not getting the
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goal and a red card. So my sabotage worked on
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Liverpool and slightly sabotaged the Guire.
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So this is a public apology from from me, which is a shame, which
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is a shame. And then yeah, we'll get into
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the lineup. So I feel like I'm holding you
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back like an aggressive dog itch as like getting you into the AR.
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But we'll get to it, I promise. But thoughts on thoughts on the
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lineup so Unchained from United? Any surprises?
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Yeah, I just, I just don't think in Brema has been playing well
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enough to keep getting the stats, especially when Cesco has
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been scoring. So that was the one again, I
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think Cesco should have started. I think he should have come on
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sooner as well. So yeah, I just think, I think
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Steven Harrison, he mentioned it, if there's like he keeps
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producing his analogies, he keeps producing the same
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homework for the say for different tests and you need to
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change like for English tests you need to do different to a
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maths test. Now I feel like I kind of agree.
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It's like obviously you can't make a lot of changes because we
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don't have the squad depth, but you've got to.
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I just think, I just don't think I'm form wise.
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Cesco has been playing great and Boma hasn't.
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So make change and I don't see really why this game required.
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It's not like Cesco's a lump and can't run and doesn't make runs
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in behind. It's not like he complete
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changes the way we play. He makes us slightly more
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direct, but I think again, we're putting crosses into no one.
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So yeah, that's that was my main frustration with it.
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Everything else kind of as expected.
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But I think I think Cesco should have started.
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I think he should start against Leeds as well.
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In 2029, when we play our next game off, that's how it.
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Yeah, yeah, if he's, if he's still alive.
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But I, I totally agree with you, actually.
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The thing with Cesco is you can do it all.
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So it's not, it's like you say, it's not like you've got some
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big, you know, slow forward up that you have to kind of use
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sparingly as well. So yeah, it's let's get into
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that a little bit. But I also felt the same.
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And again, it's that Harry Hindsight come in to come in to
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play. But yeah, it's an interesting
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one. And now I will unleash the Hound
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of Chaz and let you get in some of the moments.
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I think one of the first ones that kind of stood out for me
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was Hamas. Love again, lovely, better play
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goal bridge again, some nice football.
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I don't know if you saw it, but and then Kunia put Ahmad
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basically through on goal. Why is he taking it on his left
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foot? Such a bad touch.
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And yeah, I don't know, he didn't need to either.
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He had quite a lot of space and to take it on to his right and
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still have a good angle to take the shot.
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And yeah, it's really frustrating because that was a
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really good play as well. It wasn't just like a there's
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quite a bit of good interplay before that in the counter.
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So yeah, really, really annoying.
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But I think I'm at again, as the game overall showed a lot more
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than Brian did. He's just not quite getting the
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finish at the moment. He's just maybe it's just one
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goal or one assistant will unleash him for the rest of the
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season. But I think his application and
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his kind of wing play has been much better.
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So yeah, frustrating that he didn't obviously convert and it
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was a bad touch, but I think overall he played pretty well.
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I'd. Agree yeah, he's close
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controlled as well as amazing. So when you just get control
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like that, you just think, wow, that's complete wrong foot you
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choosing. But always a lovely, lovely bit
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of play. And then there was there was
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some more actually not long after and there was that
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interchange. Then he sent download down the
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line. He did a nice cross back, yeah
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Bruno with obviously a great controlled finish and to be fair
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keeper, which he doesn't you and saves your feet on the line.
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Yeah, yeah. Charlie's fish.
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Yeah. Did you respect that one?
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Always respect to save a defeat, which is why I love the hair.
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The hair so much. Yeah, like a chance.
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OK. You can't really expect Bruno to
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do much different. There it was.
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It was a good save. Like, I guess more power or some
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more that maybe would have scored.
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But it can't really argue with Bruno's finish.
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Agreed and to bring the fellow Reds up to speed.
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Charles and I used to play in a 5A side team in Manchester and
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Charles Rosau our number one, and he just refused to use his
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hands basically the whole time. You can't.
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Use your hands when you got 2 feet.
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And it didn't start too well, but then it actually got really
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good and he just was saving all sorts with his feet.
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Yeah, for the record, I wasn't a goalkeeper to begin with.
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I just did it because I wasn't one of the better players, but
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the other person who is worse than me would be even worse than
17:09
what? Is it going to be even worse
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than reading gold? So.
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But there was an evolution. I got much better.
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Yeah, but on this? Podcast Chaz will be the
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goalkeeping expert, so just get ready for that.
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Get ready for that. And then yeah, I think most of
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the the bigger moments came in the second-half.
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But like we said, just generally I felt that United were the
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better team. You know, Bournemouth definitely
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had a spell and in the last 10 particularly, but I thought it
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was all right. I actually quite enjoyed enjoyed
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the first half and I think. I messaged you saying we
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started. I think I'm actually saying that
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we started with pace and energy and we're playing good football.
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And I think even, I mean, I think I mentioned even Kobe was
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we saw some of those turns again in tight spaces that created
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space and I think you maybe even stabilized counter attacks.
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So I was like really happy with that as well.
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So I, yeah, I don't really get where all the negativity was
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coming from. And so I thought we'd started
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better than we had done in most of the other recent games.
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So. Totally agree, totally agree.
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I really like him watching junior juice bits as well and
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then second-half he's better magic that jazz.
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That is wonderful. I literally yeah, down the left
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and that little cutting into the box and you know, the defenders
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just absolutely been done and as no, she's just literally
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dragging him back by sure. He's so I think Junior was
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probably our best player and probably has been, other than
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Bruno, our best player of the last few games as well.
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Like when since Brian's kind of dropped off, Kunis really kind
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of stepped in and said, OK, I'll take pick up the mantle.
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And yeah. And yeah, he was doing that all
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game. I think maybe I don't know if
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he's that slight tweak from Carrick, but it's like he's
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starting wider then he comes in and before I think he was
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starting too narrow and getting kind of caught in the mid, but
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now he's kind of out on the wing.
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And then they still find it's creating because obviously he's
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creating scoring goals and winning penalties.
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But I think maybe that's a slight tactical tweak that he's
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getting used to and it's working now.
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And I think, yeah, he didn't, he was great again yesterday.
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He did quite a lot of runs. He was actually terrorizing that
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human has like, I think he was just like, Oh my God, just leave
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me alone. Because there was one that
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obviously got the one for the the penalty and then there was
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another one maybe like 5 minutes after that.
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I think he was another one where he basically terrorized him and
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us again. So yeah, I think he's been
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really good and he'd probably deserve to get the win on on
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Friday. Yeah, he had him on toast in he
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and I just think, I think we've mentioned it on a previous pod,
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but just feels like Bruno has found a kindred spirit in Kunya
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and did it. There was 1 moment they did down
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a lot down the line together kind of a little interchange
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just went past and I thought that is so good to watch.
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So just to. Great players who just full of
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confidence and full of ability. Just going at it.
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I just love to see it, love to see it and then we take it for
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granted, mate. But Bruno slighted the penalty,
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as per Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's missed.
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Has he missed 2 this season? Something like that.
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I think yeah. But yeah, like who's wise?
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That was Step 3 ones and they're kind of the one step which
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always scares me a little bit, those penalties.
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But obviously I'm not a world class footballer.
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So I could I could have been a world class footballer if I was
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really good at football, but I wasn't.
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So that's the only reason I'm not professional footballer.
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Yeah. Like I never really doubt him
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when it comes to pens, especially at the moment in the
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confidence, in the form he's in. So yeah, I'm very confident of
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him sticking up. I agree.
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Yeah, I was happy to get the goal, but right, go at it, Jazz.
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Then 67 minutes, Ahmad brought down in the box.
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You've mentioned it briefly, but.
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Yeah, like how? Genuinely, how is it not a
21:05
penalty? Like he was worse than the one
21:09
that McGuire gave away? OK, she does a bottle job from
21:13
the ref slash the the referee was right in front of it as
21:16
well. She had a great view of it and
21:18
then I don't know how they are didn't give it.
21:20
I think it literally is because of the penalty he gave just
21:24
before. But it is a penalty.
21:25
Like, oh, it's not a penalty, fine, it's not a penalty.
21:29
And then the Maguire ones not a penalty.
21:30
If we see the way you do, it doesn't matter which way, If
21:34
there's consistency within that game, then it's either a penalty
21:38
for Ahmed and McGuire or for almost one or McGuire or is a no
21:44
penalty griever. Either way, there's no
21:46
consistency there. So they've just interpreted the
21:48
interpreted the rules differently when like a 10
21:52
minute difference. Yeah.
21:55
So it's just, and also I guess from if we want to be critical
22:00
of United, then we obviously were pissed off that we weren't
22:04
given the penalty. And I think we didn't kind of, I
22:07
don't know what it was like 4 seconds later or 14 seconds
22:09
later they scored and we probably weren't defending well
22:14
enough and gave Christie too much space on on the edge of the
22:18
box. And I think that's probably
22:19
because they were still because as soon as the goal went in,
22:21
they weren't like annoyed at each other for the goal gain.
22:24
They were basically like looking at the ref, like where's the
22:25
pen? Yeah, BAR.
22:27
And now obviously actually frustrating thing.
22:29
It's obviously cliche play to the whistle but it should have
22:34
been a penalty, like oh it shouldn't have been a penalty
22:37
and they want to either way, no consistency and it's an
22:39
absolute. I think we've only made an
22:40
official complaint but you know what PGMOL will say they'll just
22:45
be like Oh no, it's it's fair and they're never going to admit
22:48
they're wrong or sometimes they have done in the season but I
22:50
don't think they will for our case.
22:53
So yeah, it's just OK. I don't think it's like a bias
22:56
against United or just a bottle job because they don't want to
23:00
give a team away from home 2 penalties in. 10 minutes, Yeah,
23:05
Carrick was livid as well, which is which is rare.
23:07
And I think you touched them. There's a few things that go
23:10
into it and I think they all have an impact.
23:11
So it's we'd already had a penalty and for some reason it
23:15
feels like refs don't like to give multiple penalties, which
23:18
is nonsense because if it's a penalty, it's a penalty and I
23:22
just don't understand that. Yeah, as you say, extending the
23:25
commentary, it went from that penalty through straight to
23:28
Bournemouth scoring. So then VAR, I've got to
23:31
probably look at it and think, oh, so we're kind of overturning
23:34
a goal and given a penalty. Have we got the cojones to to do
23:39
that? And they didn't.
23:41
No, then they didn't and they didn't.
23:42
So it's it's it's a mad one. It's a mad one to think it's but
23:45
it's just I still trying to get my head around this consistency
23:50
with foul outside the area and inside the area as well.
23:53
It's like it shouldn't be this this big thing is and I falls
23:57
like she backwards onto the ball like it's some dive.
24:01
If he's diving, to be fair, yeah, he's he's passed him.
24:04
He's literally passed him to shoot.
24:06
Yeah, I think I got challenged by a mate who is not a
24:09
Manchester United fan, I might add, to say was it a clear and
24:13
obvious error from the referee? So is it the referee's fault or
24:17
is it their as fault that they should have basically said it's
24:19
a clear and obvious error, you've missed it again.
24:22
I might have my tinted glasses on, but I do, I think it isn't.
24:25
He's missed it. It's a It's a pen.
24:26
Yeah, yeah, it's it's a pen or it's not all again, alright or I
24:31
will go or he's not a pen and then the hammer guy.
24:33
So whatever way around it is, the preferring is is horrendous
24:38
in it. And it's, I think in my head is
24:42
a pen. And then Harry Goyer wants a pen
24:44
as well. And that's kind of what I'd be
24:47
happy with. But to not give it it's yeah,
24:50
it's a joke. And yeah, the goal they scored
24:53
was it was a good goal, like really good finish, a good
24:55
counter attack. But yeah, I was fuming with with
25:01
with that. And obviously I've calmed down
25:03
possibly now. Sounds like it.
25:07
But to be fair, before we even really get to them right, we
25:10
didn't really know the McGuire red card and pen was coming.
25:13
But we obviously then score, which I thought was my my Harry
25:18
Maguire goal. But obviously it was an own
25:21
goal, Hill Hill header and I was, I was so happy.
25:24
I thought, I thought we'd respond.
25:26
We've got a bit I was going to mention it later, but I'll
25:27
mention it now. We were.
25:28
We've got a nice habit of kind of responding to adversity with
25:32
a goal at the minute, which instead of.
25:34
Conceding 2 more. Yeah, instead of crumbling.
25:38
So, you know, I was gutted by that, that goal and obviously
25:41
felt a grieved like you did to not get a penalty.
25:43
But then for us to score and get a goal upon.
25:45
Great. OK.
25:46
And then I thought we were going to go to go on to go on to, I
25:49
mean, in between as well, there was that strike from Scott,
25:52
which was a great on to the bar. But we kind of we avoided that
25:56
and we a little bit of luck there, to be fair.
25:58
The fact that he comes off the bar on to Lammons and then yeah,
26:04
Al for a corner. But I was feeling one thing.
26:07
I must. Say about the, the the own goal
26:11
is technically that's an assist for Bruno because it was Bruno's
26:15
cross. So they didn't get the assist,
26:18
which I think he should still get the assist because it's the
26:20
other team who score it. He's still passed it.
26:22
Yeah, but he doesn't get the assist, annoyingly, because that
26:25
would have been #17 I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a killer,
26:29
isn't it? Because he still, he still made
26:30
it. He still made it, yeah.
26:32
He's still, yeah, he's still the last connection before it went
26:34
in the net. But yeah, I checked.
26:38
He didn't get it. But yeah, all right, let's focus
26:41
on the actual the red card then, because we've mentioned it and,
26:44
you know, in conjunction with the Ahmad one.
26:46
But yeah, so a better flight from Bournemouth and then a.
26:50
Nice, nice bit of football repair.
26:53
Yeah, Creepy puts Evan Nielsen through and he's kind of passed
26:56
McGuire and there's an arm out from McGuire.
26:58
And as you said, we're not, we're not saying it's not a
27:01
penalty and not a red card. It's just very tough when we
27:05
just had one not given. Yeah, this spell of similar
27:08
amount of contact. My noise for it is that the
27:12
other, the, the Bournemouth one had two hands on Ahmad and
27:15
that's not a penalty. And then that McGuire has one
27:18
hand on him and he's obviously gone down very easily.
27:21
About Evan Nielsen's like a bit of a lump and like there's no,
27:25
he goes down very easily. And like, I guess maybe I'm I
27:28
did as well. But yeah, there was like, I'm
27:31
kind of happy. Like I'm fine.
27:32
It's a penalty. Like if I was in isolation, fine
27:36
penalty. Annoyingly, yeah.
27:38
Red characters last man. But yeah, because you didn't get
27:41
the other one. It's horseshit, Yeah.
27:47
Andy Cole made a good play on Sky though, so in hindsight now
27:51
obviously Evan Neilson's gone down, they've got a penalty,
27:54
they've scored it, so it's fine. But why is Evan Neilson going
27:57
down? He's literally passed McGuire
27:58
like, and there's no way that that cut, there's no way that
28:01
contacts bringing him down are enough to bring him down.
28:04
So just go past him and score the goal yourself.
28:07
Yeah, yeah, I think that's that's obviously an old school
28:12
striker talking, right? That's yeah.
28:14
Like he wants to score proper goals, especially if you're a
28:16
goal scorer who didn't take penalties, which is like Andy
28:18
Cole. He's like, well, isn't my chance
28:21
to score. But obviously I don't think most
28:23
strikers have that mentality these days.
28:26
Again, I saw, I don't know if you saw the Harry Kane worldy
28:29
from the week, kind of he could have gone down about three
28:32
times, but he's one of the strikers.
28:34
He wants to score score goals himself.
28:37
But I think that's why he's a world class striker.
28:40
And Evan Nielsen plays for former.
28:43
And, you know, Andy Cole said it.
28:44
He said he wouldn't even probably thought about it
28:46
because you'd be so focused on I'm through, you know, so bang,
28:50
because there's there's no way that McGuire has done enough
28:54
there to actually bring him down.
28:56
Like, say it's a penalty in today's game.
28:58
And then, yeah, the red card just has to follow.
29:00
Super annoying after kind of what happened and then creepy
29:05
with a good pen. To be fair, he looks super
29:07
nervous like I thought I would thought hello.
29:10
And I keep saying it's been a couple of pens now and I've said
29:14
I'd love to see lemons. Add this to his game where he
29:17
becomes a bit of a panel. He's saving beast.
29:19
We've not really. He's big in the goal, right?
29:21
I thought he looked when I saw it and I saw Creepy looking a
29:24
bit nervous. And then yeah, lemons like I
29:26
was. Oh, he looks big.
29:27
And then I'll see Spanks in. So yeah, I'm sure the saves
29:32
will. The saves will come for lemons.
29:34
Yeah, hope so. Hope so.
29:36
And yeah, like you mentioned it before, but Cesco was brought on
29:39
and on the 70 minute mark a little bit late and then we had
29:42
to make some changes obviously because the red card.
29:43
So Agate came on with Heaven as well and I did the 9 minutes
29:49
divided time and Mount came on for Ahmad.
29:51
But it was kind of at that point he just felt like.
29:55
Yeah, yeah, I think you did. Like one of our friends message
30:00
this Denise saying like, why aren't we doing what Newcastle
30:03
didn't going to try and win the game with with Tim.
30:06
But I think it's a bit different because the momentum has shifted
30:09
so much and we didn't really have the players on the bench, I
30:16
guess to to try and do that. I think there's also probably
30:20
the issue and like, I don't think I think there was at one
30:23
point where there was a potential counter attack from
30:26
us, but the ball fallen to ugate.
30:28
It was like maybe just inside that half and there's a cap,
30:32
he's a ball, easy ball through to Cesco.
30:34
Maybe we just didn't play it. And I think maybe if you'd
30:38
brought someone on who could make that pass and maybe we
30:40
could have nicked it or if that was Bruno's in possession at a
30:43
time. But it was just that's the kind
30:45
of this, this squad depth issue is like you bring him on and he
30:48
again, didn't. I keep saying he didn't make any
30:50
mistakes, didn't do anything terribly wrong, but he just
30:52
doesn't have the skills needed to potentially turn that drawer
30:56
into a 10 man victory. But I think there was like this
31:00
one chance where he could have played the ball free, but he
31:02
did. He even tried it and he got
31:04
intercepted or he just passed it same way which way around it
31:07
was. But I think that just shows the
31:09
squad depth, particularly in midfield.
31:11
As soon as Casimiro goes off, you just like, I think he goes
31:17
off and you're like, OK, well, we're playing for a draw,
31:20
basically, yeah. Yeah, I agree.
31:22
I agree. Yeah, I'm dude bang on on Agate.
31:25
I think he's just not that, you know, good player.
31:27
He'll have a good career at some of the club.
31:29
I think we just not that level that we needed.
31:31
He's to challenge him for the title in terms of squad depth or
31:35
impact when he kind of comes on. So yeah, so 22, like I said, you
31:41
know, at the time it was more annoying in the wider context.
31:46
You know, actually that point looks decent and like we say,
31:49
Premier League's tough, Premier League's tough.
31:51
So we'll take it in terms of individuals and player ratings
31:55
who kind of stood out to each other.
31:58
Kunya was probably my man of the match.
32:02
I thought he played really well, look really dangerous.
32:04
And so I don't think anyone really like massively Sean.
32:08
Like no, there's no like 9 or 10s out of 10 or anything like
32:11
that. Everyone, Well, I think Kobe
32:13
showed some more flashes of what we were wanting from him and
32:16
particularly on the well before all that kind of nonsense.
32:21
I opened his body up, putting some passes in, kind of going
32:24
past some players. I think he was looking good.
32:27
So they're probably my 2 main kind of standouts from the game.
32:32
Everyone else is probably like a bit like the other week,
32:35
probably 6 sevens. Gosh, I don't think anyone had a
32:38
howler. Even McGuire didn't have
32:39
obviously the penalty. Super soft.
32:41
I don't think anyone was awful. So that's probably my yeah, key
32:45
key take out. Yeah, I agree.
32:48
Yeah, I'd agree with that. Yeah.
32:49
I loved, I loved watching Kunia. I thought it was really good,
32:53
too far. I really enjoyed watching Scott
32:54
as well, even though he's on the opposition side.
32:56
I think he's a player, obviously I.
32:58
Think have we been linked to him?
32:59
I think we have. Yeah, a few times.
33:01
A few times, yeah. And more recently as well.
33:03
I just liked his attitude as well because obviously he just
33:06
missed out on the England squad and there's a lot of chat about
33:09
him getting in it and it was just a good sponsoring.
33:11
So he's AI like I like that mentality and I liked him as a
33:15
as a player. I think on the flip side you
33:18
mentioned, I wouldn't say how, but I thought Castamero was a
33:21
little bit quieter than he usually usually is.
33:25
I think that's because of the yellow quite early on.
33:28
I think as soon as he gets a yellow early in the I think he
33:30
got it is in the first half we got that yellow.
33:31
I think from then on he just, he loses that by an aggression
33:36
because he probably knows he'll get that off.
33:37
So I think maybe that if he gets the yellow card early, I think
33:42
he always kind of goes into a shell a bit because he's just
33:44
too scared to to to ruin it. And again, I think if we had a
33:49
deeper squad, you'd probably just take him off because yeah,
33:53
he does. He can't affect the game as
33:54
much. And he and he, he's a red
33:56
cardress. But then you've got you got it
33:59
coming on. He's you're still better having
34:01
a timid Casimiro versus a Ugati, I'd say.
34:06
That's fair, that's fair, and you wish I want to give is just
34:09
lamons. I just don't want to take this
34:12
guy for granted and just the bits and pieces that he does.
34:15
I really like the punch. He did as well during the game.
34:17
Just really came out and took the player out and then just his
34:21
feet. I swear that guy could play in
34:23
midfield, but he was he had a couple of rogue long passes sent
34:27
his way during the game and he just deals with it so well.
34:30
So I thought he to me was a bit of a weird and a Tutu, but it
34:35
was a contender for me as one of our best players.
34:38
But again, in a great way. We are taking it for granted a
34:41
little bit because he's just doing that job and how he is
34:45
only 23, I have no idea. I think we've got an absolute
34:49
gem there. I think I'm so excited for his
34:53
future and he's just, it's brilliant.
34:55
We've got a 23 year old angle, biggest club in the world, just
34:59
doing it, looking composed with his feet, with everything.
35:01
Of course you can add things and I hope you will in time, but
35:04
loving, loving. But yeah, he was claiming.
35:08
Again, I still kind of take note when he catches a cross or a
35:12
corner because I'm just like, and that should be the standard.
35:15
But he's. So he did that multiple times,
35:17
particularly when it was towards the end where they were
35:20
pressuring, pressuring and injury time.
35:24
He caught a few crosses then as well.
35:26
And he just like, yeah, I just think back and think Anan is
35:29
flapping that or Bind is kind of flipping into the goal or
35:33
something like that. And they just I just don't feel
35:34
like that's ever going to. I'm sure he's going to make
35:36
mistakes at some point. He will cost us a goal.
35:37
But he is he's building. He's building it so much kind of
35:40
good grace because he's just been so solid.
35:42
And does that save in the first half coming?
35:44
It's from like down to his near post really good save got
35:49
downloads is near post and again, I just thought that's
35:53
going in against an honor or binder.
35:56
So yeah, really. Yeah, yes, like you said, solid.
35:59
Yeah, but I'm agreed with you on one of the match.
36:02
I thought you had a great game. You just like loads of moments,
36:05
loads of creativity. Obviously that bit of magic to
36:09
to win the penalty as well. So absolutely agree with you
36:12
that on Cunyure is man of the match for this one.
36:17
Quick thoughts on Bournemouth just generally.
36:20
I think they're like a decent team really.
36:24
Like I don't think they'll have very early next year because
36:29
then you'll move to a bigger club probably.
36:31
Spurs is my guest if they stay in the Premier League, which is
36:34
probably going to go to. So yeah, I think they're a
36:38
decent club. They play nice football.
36:41
It's always quite fast plays like that.
36:43
I guess that character shows it and they're quite direct and
36:45
it's quite, quite a nice team to watch.
36:48
I guess it's always just how can they hang on to their their
36:52
better players like that creepy. He only joined the season.
36:57
He's 19, but he's scored a decent amount of goals.
36:59
And like we mentioned, Alex Scott like kind of held on to
37:03
these people, but they're bit like Bermford.
37:05
They seem to just always manage to replace anyone decent.
37:09
They save sales, sorry. So yeah, I think a decent club
37:14
and then everyone you worry about relegation, they're always
37:17
1. You think, could they push for
37:19
Europa League qualification or Commerce League?
37:23
Yeah, agreed, agreed. Well, yeah, we don't normally do
37:26
trivia in the review, you normally use the preview, but
37:29
I've got one for you. And as famously as rubbish
37:33
music. But I'm going to call
37:34
Bournemouth the hard FI of the Premier League.
37:38
Why would that? Be the hard 5 because they had
37:40
to bait. And the music one from you, very
37:47
impressive, yeah, solid team mentioned a couple of players
37:50
and just they premium with a record that you just had to beat
37:53
them. And yeah, I think you've got to
37:55
look at that point and just yeah, be a bit gutted and
37:57
definitely robbed by VAR as you mentioned, but take it and move
38:01
on. And I saw the sound sky from
38:04
creepy. There's a teenager.
38:05
So I've had nine goals and the next nearest teenager to him
38:08
would was was 2 so much about yeah, I'm not heard a lot from
38:13
him, but obviously take that penalty and that team as well.
38:17
Maybe, maybe one to watch. Yeah, yeah.
38:22
Positive for me. I mentioned one.
38:24
I think it's a good point. It's probably what I'll say now.
38:27
As we've mentioned, I really like this responding to, you
38:31
know, conceding the goal thing. So I hope we can keep that, keep
38:34
that going. How about you?
38:36
Any other kind of positives that stood out for you?
38:39
Yeah, I'd probably agree with the ones you said.
38:44
And I think Kunia, basically what I'm hoping for is that you
38:50
can get Brian and Cuna both playing well at the same time
38:53
because so far they've and women's played really well and
38:56
then Kun has been quiet and now Kuna's playing really well.
38:59
We're very quiet like. But yeah, if those two can start
39:03
playing well together, then attack gets even more kind of
39:07
scary and effective. So yeah, CUNY was probably my
39:10
main kind of positive from that game and he's kind of continued
39:13
that ever less 3-4 games now. Yeah.
39:19
On the flip side, in terms of improvements are negatives.
39:23
It's we mentioned this, I think I mentioned this in the last
39:26
part part around is our recruitment becoming a bit more
39:30
obvious that it was kind of three, you know, that 352 system
39:33
and the Brian thing not really working.
39:35
It's just something that's given me a bit of a headache.
39:38
I had a fault that crept in the other day, which I didn't like,
39:41
and it was a little bit like, would I have preferred Semenyo
39:44
over and Bueno? And that's not me discounting
39:47
anything he's done for so far. And I hope this comes to buyers
39:49
on the ass a little bit, But I just want to see how this works,
39:54
like where Brian places in the team, because obviously we think
39:57
Ahmad is a is a good player, right, and very good player.
39:59
He's had some great moments united and he seems to offer a
40:02
bit more down that right. And so just that's one thing
40:06
that's concerning me around this.
40:07
You know, where does emblem already fit?
40:09
And you know, can he can he step up because Kunis stepped up, I
40:12
think, because I had some over him, didn't I?
40:14
So hopefully Brian answers my call and shoots me up.
40:19
Yeah, yeah, same. Like he's my only real I I've
40:24
been able to pick out massively negatively in the last kind of
40:28
consistency over the last few games.
40:31
So yeah, just one more of the Brian that was there before the
40:35
African Cup of Nations basically where he was kind of banging in
40:37
goals and they said it's a different system.
40:40
And yeah, hindsight maybe a proper kind of right winger or
40:47
left winger in would have been a better choice.
40:50
So I just think, obviously I'm a massive Cesco fan, so I just
40:54
want him to be starting. So I think he deserves it, and I
40:57
don't currently think Brian deserves to be starring in front
41:01
of him. Yeah.
41:02
So that's why I'm really hoping that Kirk maybe starts mixing it
41:07
up a little bit more. We sort of play one or two games
41:10
and yeah, I think we need to see it more often.
41:13
Yeah, agreed, Agreed. So hopefully it proves us wrong.
41:16
And yeah, I really liked him as a guy, as a character from what
41:19
I've seen. And he's obviously got loads of
41:21
ability and he's not really doing anything wrong.
41:23
He just hasn't been doing enough.
41:26
Yeah, exactly in the position that he's been playing.
41:29
And I guess the other negative is McGuire missed his that one
41:32
game against Leeds in 2029, wherever it is.
41:35
Yeah. But I think Martinez, I think he
41:39
might be back for that is what I'm hoping.
41:41
Hopefully. It just sounds like he was.
41:43
I think he's back training again.
41:45
So in kind of two years time, he should be there for the.
41:50
Game hopefully there's enough time to enough time to recover
41:54
in the in between but yeah he's obviously he'll miss a game
41:58
unless some madness comes through this appeal or whatever
42:01
or this complaint I. Don't think so.
42:03
I can't see, I can't see, I can't see it.
42:07
Well, yeah, that was us. That was I think let's look at
42:10
the some other fixtures. There's only really one to talk
42:13
about before we talk about League Cup final and Spurs lost
42:16
three nil at home to Forest. After you see all the stuff of
42:19
them coming out around the bus and cheering about to win the
42:23
lead stuff. Yes.
42:25
I didn't want to listen to it, listen to it on the radio.
42:30
And by our first half they were like battering them basically
42:37
forests were like on the back foot that premised the whole
42:39
first half. And then they just couldn't
42:41
convert their their opportunities.
42:43
And then forest did. And then beside one of these
42:45
things where they got that goal right before half time, which is
42:47
a nightmare. And then you just their heads
42:51
was just gone. Like, yeah, it's they're so, so
42:55
fragile, aren't they? So that was massive to lose at
42:58
home. I don't know if I've not looked
42:59
at the if he's been sacked yet, but surely he's on his way out?
43:07
I haven't seen, I haven't seen. Yeah, it's a horrendous result
43:10
for Spurs, a really good result for Forest and three nil at
43:14
home. You know, after all that as well
43:16
and knowing what's on the Lion is that, you know, there's an
43:20
optic wasn't as well because they've had some decent results
43:22
of weight and Liverpool and then athletic calls that he ended up
43:25
winning that game in isolation and so things were looking up.
43:28
Well, that just really sets them back, doesn't it?
43:31
Yeah, I feel like generally a suicide crazy, but I genuinely
43:35
think they should get like Harry Redknapp in like just he would
43:39
like, but he'd like he's obviously like a tactician, mass
43:42
technician, but he'll get everyone buzzing.
43:44
The crowd would be buzzing because they weren't they.
43:47
I just imagine the atmosphere next home game if Harry
43:49
Redknapp's back in charge or it's what's why we're having
43:54
games last night 7 or something like that.
43:56
Like he probably just got the aura that could help, the kind
44:00
of spares aura that could help turn it around and keep them up.
44:03
But like, I'm pretty sure they've got some pretty tough
44:07
pictures still. And even the teams that are in
44:11
around them are kind of on more of an upturn than they are.
44:14
So we called it whether it was now a month, 5 weeks ago that
44:17
they might go down and it's looking, yeah, it's looking
44:20
pretty, pretty likely now. Think Harry Kane and fancy an
44:24
emergency loan to come back and just score a lot of goals to try
44:27
and keep him up. I know he's he's on for
44:31
Lewandowski's record if he scores.
44:34
Yeah, he's on 50. Would he get 55?
44:36
I think I'm guess we did. He's already on like 49 and done
44:39
it in that 10 less games. So yeah, I think he's probably
44:42
pretty happy drinking steins in Munich.
44:46
Yeah, yeah, beautiful beer, beautiful beer.
44:49
But already in times for Spurs and then the League Cup final
44:52
yesterday, did you? Did you watch yet?
44:55
I didn't again, I had it on the radio because I was doing stuff.
44:58
So I listened to the game. The first half it felt like
45:03
Arsenal were kind of more on top, not weren't creating much
45:08
because it was kind of pretty even.
45:10
But then second-half like, as you guess, just shows the was it
45:15
like the master versus The Apprentice with Pep and Arteta?
45:19
And he kind of basically shows I'm still the boss here.
45:21
And he they just did him in the second-half, helped obviously by
45:28
Arteta's stupidity and put in Keppa and Sederea.
45:32
And he just kind of fumble with that goal.
45:35
I saw that, saw the highlight to that goal.
45:38
I mean, yeah, it's I only caught the second-half, but it was not
45:43
a good look for Arsenal that second-half at risk and getting
45:45
trolled by more hassle funds. Again, it's I understand.
45:50
I understand this thing of like trying to give goalkeepers, you
45:54
know, that an opportunity that the second place goalkeeper, the
45:57
opportunity in the final if he's played through the tournament,
45:59
but also like they haven't won anything.
46:02
And so like and Ray is obviously a very, very good goalkeeper.
46:06
And so sometimes you have to what is it to make an omelette?
46:10
Some difficult decisions as a manager and obviously, you know,
46:13
hindsight again. So Trafford playing looks all
46:16
right, because city have won, but city have won a lot recently
46:19
and you can take more of them Gamble's, but it just looks mad
46:22
now. And what I saw a Kepler was
46:24
awful. Yeah, on that goal that he's
46:25
obviously spilled, but just generally as well, just anti
46:28
football, just rolling the ball and his foot in the box, just
46:32
like literally inviting city on. They just look like they were
46:34
just I'm scared of City basically trying to trying to
46:38
lose. And you know, obviously I don't
46:39
want to see to win anything. I don't want Arsenal to win
46:42
anything either. But it was just you couldn't
46:45
help but just almost back City a little bit and just think, well,
46:48
at least they're going, you know what I mean?
46:49
Because it was horrible to watch from an ass.
46:51
I'll be honest, I I wanted to, I can, I never want to see to win.
46:56
And I said to you, obviously both teams could lose.
46:58
That'd be great. But I just think the Arsenal
47:01
fans just again are going to troll me again.
47:03
But like always chat about quadruples and I all this stuff.
47:08
Best team ever. I've seen some of these videos
47:10
are like comparing play like I saw mom saying would Pele get
47:15
into this current Arsenal team? And they said no.
47:17
I'm like, it's buddy Pele won three World Cups.
47:21
He scored like 1000 goals. And they're like, Nah, he's
47:24
Gabrielle Martinelli's. I know it's click Bay and I fall
47:26
for it but. It's like.
47:30
But I feel like they believe that kind of stuff as well.
47:32
That's the thing. So I was kind of, but yeah,
47:34
obviously did not want to back City.
47:36
But I just find myself wanting to back City in that situation
47:41
because I was. They weren't so many League Cups
47:43
anyway. What's another one?
47:44
Where's Arsenal winning it? It's just interesting to see how
47:48
they react basically to this. I think it's big.
47:54
I think it's big. Like like you said, I don't want
47:56
to say to win anything and they're going to get them all
47:58
taken off on at some point anyway.
47:59
So let's just let's just wait for that.
48:03
We don't want to ask the fans winning and they didn't deserve
48:05
to win yesterday at all. That's their false consecutive
48:09
final that they've lost as well. But apparently which is
48:12
excellent, which is brilliant, and I'm having a little run,
48:16
right. I understand people, you know,
48:19
going to games is a big thing and getting tickets to finals is
48:22
a big thing. But I saw like Arsenal fans
48:24
leaving after 85 minutes. And that makes no sense because,
48:27
all right, sometimes people have got far to travel.
48:30
But surely when you, you know, when you go to finals, when
48:33
we've been to finals, you're planning the day and you're
48:35
thinking, right, I'm planning to hopefully win this.
48:37
I'm going to stay in the stadium for the celebration.
48:39
Yeah, I'm going to have some bad afterwards.
48:41
And it was only two nil. It wasn't like they'd been
48:43
absolutely. Yeah, one goal.
48:45
Right as well, yeah. One goal, I just made a note to
48:50
have a run with you because I was like, you can't believe in a
48:52
final. But you know, and it's not the
48:54
Arsenal of I said they're not not used to winning.
48:57
So it did round me up that on 85,000,000.
49:02
I don't care where you're going, where you're traveling to.
49:04
You must have planned for them to win it.
49:06
So stick around. Yeah.
49:09
Yeah, I agree. Got off my chest in this therapy
49:11
call. Thanks, Jess.
49:12
Thanks. But yeah, so City win the League
49:15
Cup and I do think it sets up an interesting time now because
49:20
what's going to happen that game for them to just become even
49:23
bigger because what is it? There's nine points, but City
49:26
I've got a game in and which takes it to six if it be.
49:30
City win every 3 is. Three points I still.
49:33
Think I still think Arsenal are going to win the league like
49:37
because I just don't think City have been good enough and that's
49:39
this performance that's that's a new battle.
49:43
The second-half performance sets a new bar.
49:46
But actually it has been like drop points to West Ham and
49:50
Forest recently. So yeah, can they get it?
49:53
They can get it going to the Arsenal work and they have to
49:56
get it going for. I'm not sure actually, I don't
49:59
know what their their respective fixtures look like other than
50:02
than playing each other. But I would love to see it be
50:06
more tight kind of going into if we go to the last game or
50:09
something like that where I still probably again, it's a
50:13
thing because the Arsenal fans like almost makes me not want
50:17
them to win it. And then City win.
50:18
It was like, now I don't obviously don't want City to win
50:20
it. But if Arsenal just win the
50:24
league and then go out the Champions League soon and pick
50:29
up and yeah, I'll take that. It's literally math like that.
50:34
We're literally almost want our city rivals to win it more than
50:39
them. Just shows how annoying.
50:41
But there's no chance that they would ever want Spurs to win it
50:44
over us to win it. You know what I mean?
50:45
But that's what exactly That's what that's all your fault,
50:52
Arsenal. It's all your fault.
50:54
And then, yeah, a few other things to wrap up.
50:56
So England squad was announced as we know that you're Scottish,
51:00
but I know you also follow the Premier League and United and
51:03
you've got a little eye on it. We may even do I think we will
51:06
do some kind of World Cup content.
51:07
So keep it, make sure you're subscribed for that.
51:10
But the notes that I got out of this were McGuire and Menu in No
51:16
loop. Shaw were the first.
51:18
What do you think? Yeah, I think I kind of see why.
51:24
Also, you can see why the guy I'm hearing Luke Shaw, he's
51:29
played well and you kind of think, oh, for his experience,
51:34
at least check him in this gigantic squad you created just
51:37
to see. But yeah, I think maybe it's
51:39
just he didn't offer enough going forward for too cool is
51:42
probably why he's not getting it, is my thought.
51:45
And you can't just bring a load of people who are good for their
51:48
squad for the sake of that where you could actually have people
51:51
who can make a proper impact. Like bringing Luxure on at 70
51:56
minutes, probably not going to change the game anymore where
51:59
you can't make those overlapping runs like he used to be able to.
52:02
So I think that's probably why he's not not made it.
52:06
There there and then one. Even though he's an ex Liverpool
52:09
player and a Scouser, I couldn't help but feel a bit sorry for
52:12
Trent missing out and Jed Spence in a relegation Spurs team is is
52:18
in a little bit that's a bit mad.
52:20
Yeah, that's surprising. Yeah, I didn't really get that,
52:25
Especially when you know what Frank could do from an attacking
52:28
perspective. I think he's pants defensively,
52:30
but going forward where which when you think of most games and
52:35
you'll probably have the majority of the ball, at least
52:39
in those early games. So you think there's a yeah,
52:41
basically I think he's better than Spence.
52:42
So Spencer was good last season. He's been kind of because he's
52:48
all those means of him having defenders in his pocket and that
52:51
kind of stuff, but he's not had anyone his pocket for a long
52:53
time so. No, Spurs have been having the
52:57
pockets pinced every week. Yeah.
52:58
And then, yeah, this weirdness about 11 players arriving later
53:02
as well. Kind of.
53:04
They just know that in the in the squad, right.
53:07
So I guess it's like how many Pammy spots are actually up for
53:11
grabs or not? I don't know.
53:13
Yeah, I saw like who didn't make it, who I thought should made it
53:19
give us white. He's not in the squad and you
53:24
get people like Henderson's in it, right?
53:28
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah. Like why?
53:33
It's ridiculous. Like, yeah, it's absolutely mad
53:36
that he's in the squad because what?
53:39
Because he's a good lab tower around and he's he doesn't even
53:42
start for Bret, He doesn't start for Brentford, but he's getting
53:44
an England squad. Yeah, yeah, I think I'm pretty
53:47
sure he was in this one. Yeah, but he's been in years of
53:49
the camp. Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
53:53
Weird. But yeah, obviously looking
53:55
forward to the World Cup. It's crazy how quickly it's
53:57
coming, coming around as well. So watch this space for a bit of
54:00
World Cup content. I'm sure you're excited Jazz, as
54:03
a Scotsman as well. It's annoying what time the
54:06
games are. I think our first games are like
54:07
2:00 AM. Yeah, what's going to say open?
54:12
Yeah, yeah. So.
54:14
Brilliant, brilliant. And then just back to United
54:17
quickly as well. So couple of couple of transfer
54:19
rumours that the Bruno gamer Ash gamer Ash one is picking up
54:24
Paige randomly and Eddie Howe is not happy about the links, but
54:29
another Bruno to United. What do you think?
54:32
I think, yeah, I think he's ideal kind of replacement.
54:37
Like, obviously I don't mind signing a 28 year old, it's just
54:43
not what any OSHA told us they're going to do anymore.
54:46
But as far as a player, you can like he's probably got what, 4/4
54:53
at least four years in him kind of yeah, that's just taking 232
54:56
and lots of years can play beyond that night.
54:59
So you think, yeah, I think it'd be a great signing, like ideal
55:03
replacement for Casimiros. And I think from I think it was
55:07
it Reuters who broke it and it was like some guy who originally
55:11
broke his transfer before. So he has some sort of
55:14
connection to him. So apparently it sounds like
55:16
it's it's not just like some football random site from Malta.
55:21
It's like a proper journalist. So sounds like it might actually
55:26
be true. But also I have heard that real
55:29
might be sniffing about. And these days we can't compete
55:32
too well with them. Obviously we did be Euro, but we
55:36
have to see. Yeah, and if it's probably this,
55:41
hopefully a friend, Champions League, well, this is the most
55:44
strength we've had in the transfer window for a long time.
55:46
And if it's the report, the report is 60 million.
55:49
I'd take that because that's finally would be a decent price.
55:53
But I think the Geordies would be devastated because they love
55:56
him don't as well. Yeah.
55:59
A big loss for them, but we'll see.
56:01
And then obviously there's still chats around Anderson as well.
56:05
We both rate and. Again, I think it's really city
56:09
I had but. Yeah, I keep saying that, but I
56:12
do feel that this is a time where surely you look at us and
56:15
think I'll come in there, slide into that midfield and do bits,
56:19
obviously. I saw according to the athletic
56:21
there, right that we obviously aren't going to be breaking our
56:26
wage structure. It's a crazy amounts.
56:28
I think Simeno, yeah, he's on 300 or 350 as well a week and
56:34
then we just don't won't pay those wages anymore.
56:35
So I think maybe like he might, we would join us, but then he's
56:41
like, well, I could still join city and potentially win
56:43
trophies and I get paid next to 150 grand type thing.
56:45
I think that's where we might actually, which is why maybe we
56:49
need to start doing our business in those.
56:51
Yeah. Well, it's not like second tier
56:53
players, but like maybe one it's got more potential is less fully
56:57
developed yet unless you can do it for like 60 million when it's
57:00
like Bruno or something like that.
57:02
But I think I'm guessing he's going to be like 100 million is
57:06
my guess. I don't know.
57:08
That's you as a good World Cup, yeah.
57:11
That's right, it probably has to be done the business done before
57:13
the world for that reason. Doesn't know.
57:15
I keep saying though, you know, obviously he's a very good
57:18
player and would like to see me united, but let's try and steal
57:21
the the Brighton copy of Football Manager and trying to
57:24
get that level and find the next one.
57:26
I know because, yeah, I don't. You know, this should be experts
57:30
at the club who just have the finger on the pulse of all these
57:32
top players. And I don't want me and you
57:34
picking the players. And it just still is still
57:37
Bruno, Gamerash and Anderson and all these players that we know
57:39
in the league that we know and. This whole world out there of
57:43
players Spanish like DM, like Rhodri the next Rhodri, he's out
57:50
there somewhere in Spain thinking about it.
57:53
Why aren't we finding game law? The next I like French version
57:58
or so I saw there's always I know if you've seen the
58:00
Kamadhinga rumors as well from from reality, that's only like
58:05
40 million. I think it is, which is pretty
58:07
good. But then you also go, well, why
58:10
are you all good selling him and selling him 40 million?
58:13
So I know apparently he's been injured quite a lot.
58:15
So maybe that's why they're trying to get rid of him.
58:18
But again, he was one we we definitely wanted why we was 3-4
58:21
years ago when he was like 19 because he looks clash.
58:25
I think he'd be a good player if there isn't some underlying
58:30
injury by always wary of rounded selling players, right?
58:34
Same, same. If he's that good, then yeah,
58:39
yeah. But yeah, some transfer content
58:42
coming from us at some point as well, no doubt as we get that
58:45
close to that time. But Jasmine, sad to say it, but
58:49
that's kind of it for us and a 23 day break, which I'm not
58:53
looking forward to. Obviously it's nice to have some
58:55
internationals, but I always miss United.
58:59
But we didn't end on the high that we hoped.
59:01
But as we said in the context, everything a decent point.
59:05
We're still in that third position.
59:07
Champions League is looking good.
59:08
I think I read today that we just need 10 more points from
59:12
our remaining fixtures. So that's really focus, focus on
59:16
them to try and get that Champions, Champions League
59:18
spot. But what do you guys think?
59:21
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59:23
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59:25
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59:28
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