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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Haynes King's Potential Role · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio nine at two seven wfn Z Old Sports
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  Speaker 1: Enter Saxophone.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta congratulate. We have to congratulate our next guest man.
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  Speaker 2: We're playing the music for him. We are very excited
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  Speaker 2: for him. He is an amazing reporter and a great dude.
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  Speaker 2: And Mike k is the new NFL Nation reporter for
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  Speaker 2: ESPN covering the Carolina Panthers, so he doesn't have to move.
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  Speaker 2: He gets to stay in the great city of Charlotte.
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  Speaker 2: But now you can read his stuff and he already
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  Speaker 2: had a notes column up yesterday at ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 2: And we welcome Mike Ka on the show right now
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  Speaker 2: to talk to some Panthers. Mike, congratulations, man, I know
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  Speaker 2: everybody at FNZ and heck, I know everybody all over
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  Speaker 2: Charlotte's happy for you.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, I really appreciate you guys were among the Sorry
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  Speaker 4: I'm with the cold.
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  Speaker 5: So if I sound terrible, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Not a great ESPN debut, ESPN Radio debut, I guess
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  Speaker 4: you know, you guys really embraced me when I got here,
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  Speaker 4: and so I I don't lose sight of that. And
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  Speaker 4: you guys, I mean, this station has raised my profile
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  Speaker 4: to over the last four years, and so I'm really
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  Speaker 4: appreciative that we're talking now and I have this gig,
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  Speaker 4: and I promise you things aren't going to change. Like
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  Speaker 4: we're still going to do in depth stuff, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: on social media, video.
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  Speaker 5: Online.
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  Speaker 4: Like you said, we've got a notebook going on. It's
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  Speaker 4: like a running notebook, which I think is a pretty
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  Speaker 4: cool idea. And so you're still going to get the
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  Speaker 4: same content that you can expect from me, except maybe
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  Speaker 4: not as verbose.
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  Speaker 3: You would love that mine.
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  Speaker 1: I heard when you negotiated that they said, we need,
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  Speaker 1: we need the notebook. It's it's a package deal. It's
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  Speaker 1: you and the notebook. Is that true?
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  Speaker 4: I mean that was there weren't discussions. The notebook was
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  Speaker 4: brought up at one point and I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I can't there's this guy bone. I can't let him down.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's become, you know, part of his routine. Like
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  Speaker 4: if I don't do the training camp, like what are
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  Speaker 4: we gonna do? And you know, this is the house
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  Speaker 4: of the Mouse. You gotta you know, you gotta entertain.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this, uh, this scrap
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  Speaker 2: yesterday and practice, Mike, what were you able to see
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  Speaker 2: because it does seem like different reporters kind of have
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  Speaker 2: you know they're not. It seems like there's some uncertainty
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  Speaker 2: about who hit Jonathan Brooks. We do know that Bryce
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  Speaker 2: and Mike jack were yapping back and forth. We know
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  Speaker 2: that it was Nick Scott and Mike Jack and Bryce
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  Speaker 2: that got together afterwards. So what did you see? And
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  Speaker 2: then secondly, am I right or wrong to as a
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  Speaker 2: fan of the Panthers to kind of like so many
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  Speaker 2: angles of this, Like I like, so I like Bryce
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  Speaker 2: standing up, I like these defensive guys being like, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think about all of this?
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  Speaker 4: So I didn't see any hit on Brooks. I was
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  Speaker 4: on a team's chat while it was happening, admitted transparently.
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  Speaker 4: But what I did see when I looked up was
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  Speaker 4: Luke Fortner and Mike Jackson getting tangled and basically at
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  Speaker 4: belly to belly, suplex to the ground. Some other guys
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  Speaker 4: got in the fray and so forth.
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  Speaker 5: I fell down. But I want to like emphasize.
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  Speaker 4: This like kind of was done in the span of
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  Speaker 4: about twelve to fifteen seconds.
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  Speaker 5: This was not like an all out brawl.
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  Speaker 4: This was not Cam versus Josh Norman. This was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they brawled and they went back to their corners. Nobody
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  Speaker 4: was punished for it, at least immediately. I'm not trying
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  Speaker 4: to downplay it, but like I I think this is
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  Speaker 4: something similar that happened earlier on in camp, where we
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  Speaker 4: saw Mike Jackson and Bobby, we saw Cuba and Bobby
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  Speaker 4: Brown get into it. We've seen Luke Fortner get into
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  Speaker 4: it with guys like Luke Fortner is like Bruce Banner.
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  Speaker 4: He's an incredibly nice, kind of somewhat self proclaimed nerdy,
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  Speaker 4: and then when you see him on the field and
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  Speaker 4: somebody tries to.
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  Speaker 5: Get at one of his guys, he just goes off.
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  Speaker 4: And so look, I think fights can be good, and
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  Speaker 4: they can prompt elevation of camaraderie and of competitiveness. But
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't blow this one out of proportion.
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  Speaker 4: I think a conversation was needed because this has happened
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  Speaker 4: multiple times and they're about to get into joint practices
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  Speaker 4: next week. But for the most part, it seems like
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  Speaker 4: the internal leaders handle theirs, and I think that is
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  Speaker 4: if you're going to take anything away from this, that
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  Speaker 4: is probably the most important things.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Bruce Better's the Hulk, I believe Yeah, we forgot
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  Speaker 1: last segment to give Luke Fortner credit for being in
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  Speaker 1: the Bodyguard. Like Mike said, this is something he's done before.
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  Speaker 1: I like that too, Mike, your time here coincides with
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  Speaker 1: with Bryce's time here. I believe Bryce going into the
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  Speaker 1: year four when we see things like yesterday and the
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  Speaker 1: leadership from Bryce, how much more of a leader are
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  Speaker 1: we seeing Bryce become of this operation?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 4: I think he is extremely comfortable in that role now.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was tough when you had Andy Dalton
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  Speaker 4: as the backup quarterback because he was this veteran who
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Bryce was in like middle school when he started,
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  Speaker 4: So it was just it was a situation where I
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  Speaker 4: think they needed to let him be the voice of
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback room.
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  Speaker 5: Before he could be the true voice of the team.
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  Speaker 5: And he's become that. He has become a very good leader.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he's always been a leader, but he is
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  Speaker 4: really taking the ball by the horns as the leader.
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  Speaker 4: I think he is unafraid to speak up. I think
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  Speaker 4: he has the respect of his teammates. They see how
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  Speaker 4: hard he works, they see how engaged he is, and
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  Speaker 4: I think that's great. But again, I think his success
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  Speaker 4: as a leader is going to be partially determined by
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  Speaker 4: his success on the field, and if they can get
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  Speaker 4: off to a quick start, he will have everybody believing.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking with Mike k You can now read his
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  Speaker 2: stuff covering the Panthers, still covering the Cats, but doing
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  Speaker 2: it for ESPN at ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Mike. One other thing about Bryce.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the highlight clip a lot of y'all shared
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  Speaker 1: yesterday of that past the team ac pretty good coverage
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  Speaker 1: by Mike Jack, but Bryce just dropped it right in there.
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  Speaker 1: And there's been so many clips like this in practice.
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  Speaker 1: You've been there at every practice and we have not like,
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  Speaker 1: how good does he look to you? Is it noticeably
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  Speaker 1: better than past camps? And do you then should we
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  Speaker 1: make a leap and feel like that definitely transfers over
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  Speaker 1: to the regular season or should we chill with that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I think he has been as in control and as
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  Speaker 4: efficient as he's been during his NFL career. From a
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  Speaker 4: training camp perspective, He's hitting guys with multiple highlight plays
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  Speaker 4: every single day. His best practices are great, his bad
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  Speaker 4: practices or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I mean. There's no like nuclear.
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  Speaker 4: Practice session. And I think that's a step up. He
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  Speaker 4: tends to get the ball out. He's being aggressive, he's
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  Speaker 4: trying things.
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  Speaker 5: To me.
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  Speaker 4: An efficient practice for a quarterback in training camp is
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  Speaker 4: they're getting in a lot of plays and everybody is
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  Speaker 4: getting a piece of the pie in the receiving game,
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  Speaker 4: and he is spreading the ball around very well. Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Koker looks great, he Mac looks great. But he's also
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  Speaker 4: elevating guys like Mitchell Evans and Tommy Tremble and Xavier
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  Speaker 4: Leaguett and Jessim.
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  Speaker 5: Reid when he gets rolled, when he rolls with the.
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  Speaker 4: Ones like John Matchi there, he is doing a very
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  Speaker 4: good job of elevating his teammates in practice. Now, as
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  Speaker 4: far as the second part of your question, I've seen
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks struggle mightily in training camp and have great seasons.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen quarterbacks have great training camps and have terrible seasons.
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  Speaker 4: So I think you kind of have to take it
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  Speaker 4: with a grain of salt. I think it's very encouraging,
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  Speaker 4: but encouraging is what it is.
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  Speaker 5: Mike.
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  Speaker 1: I know you wrote about this as well. How troubling
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  Speaker 1: is the linebacker position outside of Devin Lloyd right now?
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  Speaker 1: Canali said yesterday We've now got Trevid Wallace competing with
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl Wist are they Are they gonna be okay or
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  Speaker 1: have to go outside and find another winebacker at some point.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm glad you brought this up because to me,
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  Speaker 4: this was the story of yesterday. They open up, but
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  Speaker 4: training can't battle with a two year established homegrown starter
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  Speaker 4: because not because of injury, right. I mean this is
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  Speaker 4: they are seeing something either cherylis is elevating the defense
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  Speaker 4: when he plays, or Trevin Wallace just simply isn't. And
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  Speaker 4: I think this is an opportunity over the next two
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  Speaker 4: weeks to see if they need to go outside and
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  Speaker 4: get somebody next to Devin Lloyd. You don't invest too
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  Speaker 4: invested in Devin Lloyd and Jalen Phillips just to have
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  Speaker 4: middling talent next to them, like they've invested a lot
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  Speaker 4: of money. You know, you need the warranty of somebody
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  Speaker 4: who can be very good because if Lloyd goes down,
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  Speaker 4: you need somebody who can step into that role and
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  Speaker 4: play well. Claude and Cheryliss has been a dark horse
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  Speaker 4: since he got here. The front office has loved him
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  Speaker 4: since he got here. He is a guy who can
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  Speaker 4: communicate well, he tackles well, he's good on special teams.
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  Speaker 4: Every time he gets playing time. E j or a
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  Speaker 4: jarro Ever essentially praises him for his communication yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: You could see how animated he was calling the defense.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think, if you're not gonna have Devin Lloyd
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  Speaker 4: where the green dot, that's where cherrylists can kind of
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  Speaker 4: find his footing.
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  Speaker 5: And I think it is a legit competition.
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  Speaker 4: It's why I asked Dave canal as, hey is this
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  Speaker 4: on the line basically, and he was like yep, without stuttering.
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  Speaker 4: But look, if either one of these guys falters in
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  Speaker 4: Buffalo or against the Jaguars and joint practice and preseason,
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  Speaker 4: then you have to kind of start to look for
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  Speaker 4: veterans outside of the norm. You have to really scour
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  Speaker 4: the waiver wire because again, Devin Lloyd was such an investment.
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  Speaker 4: Now the good news is if they don't go outside
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  Speaker 4: of that, they're going to play probably a lot of
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  Speaker 4: dime with Marrek essentially being that extra linebacker or in
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  Speaker 4: Nickel him being the nickel big nickel, So they have
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  Speaker 4: the talent in the secondary to make up for the
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  Speaker 4: shortcomings of the second linebacker position. It's where like injury
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  Speaker 4: could factor in that, I would be somewhat concerned.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is concerning. I would have thought. I would
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  Speaker 2: have hoped right when Trevin was drafted by this one.
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  Speaker 2: I know he's had injuries, but by this point, his
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  Speaker 2: third camp, he would be locked in, nailed down, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Mike King wrote about that in his notes column, which
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  Speaker 2: you could check out at ESPA ESPN dot com. Mike,
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  Speaker 2: We're happy for you man, Thanks so much, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: see you soon. Thanks for coming on, Thanks for having me,
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  Speaker 2: all right, vite there you go. That's Mike k now
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  Speaker 2: with ESPN. Alexettlow holds it down on the observer. I
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  Speaker 2: did see Alexetlo saying, hey, I'm sure we're still doing
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  Speaker 2: the podcast or whatever, processing Blue, but Mike's now with ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of things that struck me during that interview
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  Speaker 2: Bone and we were talking about one of them during
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  Speaker 2: the break here we're starting to sweat about this linebacker
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  Speaker 2: situation next to Lloyd. But the first thing is he
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  Speaker 2: talked about how Bryce is trying things. He's being more aggressive,
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  Speaker 2: he's trying to fit balls in downfield more in camp.
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  Speaker 2: That's something he needs to do during the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: Two when I asked Dave Canals and said, man, Bryce
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  Speaker 2: is so efficient throwing the d ball, but y'all don't
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  Speaker 2: do it at a high rate. Like I'm not just
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  Speaker 2: saying the coaching staff needs a call. I'm saying Bryce
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  Speaker 2: has to dare to throw those balls more than he does.
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  Speaker 2: But he had by far bone the most throwaways last
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  Speaker 2: year in the NFL. He's very safe with it, and
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  Speaker 2: he's got to start to sometimes even force it on
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  Speaker 2: a downfield throw. Hell, he threw away a fourth down
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  Speaker 2: pass last year. Do it away now as far as
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  Speaker 2: the linebacker thing goes, And this is what you were
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  Speaker 2: bringing up off the air, like this ain't good for
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  Speaker 2: Trevin Wallace. I mean it might not be good for
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  Speaker 2: the Panthers either rights, but not for this is bad
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  Speaker 2: for Trevin Wallace.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess it's more about Trevin Wallace not being
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  Speaker 1: what they want more so than Cheryl was. Just coming
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  Speaker 1: into taking the job. Cher was to me is he's
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  Speaker 1: not playing like you know he is what he is.
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  Speaker 1: He's a depth guy. So I think that they're forced
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  Speaker 1: now to have those guys compete. They thought it was
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  Speaker 1: Wallace and it's not. By the way, I do wonder
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  Speaker 1: if the taking more chances Bryce the deep down the
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  Speaker 1: field try and stuff, is that the Bevill factor to
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  Speaker 1: try to get more of the Russell Wilson like downfield
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  Speaker 1: passing out of Bryce Yong. What of the Bevill Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was great at bringing that. Not that Russell Wilson
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  Speaker 1: just didn't throw an amazing deep ball. I mean, listen
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  Speaker 1: the dor ca An noise, the crap out of me,
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  Speaker 1: But my god, he threw a deep ball. And you're right,
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  Speaker 1: Bevill was the OC during those years. So yeah, I'd
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  Speaker 1: love to see just a little bit more aggression and
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  Speaker 1: friskiness on those passes. We'll talk more this hour about
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  Speaker 1: the linebacker thing. We're gonna let you hear Canalis because
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  Speaker 1: he's right, like Mike's right. This is real interesting in that,
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  Speaker 1: like it seems like they opened the competition up, like
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  Speaker 1: it seems like at first Wallace was the starter and
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  Speaker 1: based on what's going on in camp and we both
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  Speaker 1: we all said it here on the show, Fitty, like
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  Speaker 1: we watched we watched Trevin Wallace in that preseason game
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  Speaker 1: and was like in a game no starters was playing
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  Speaker 1: and he was out there. You barely notice number thirty
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  Speaker 1: two man. Yeah, that ain't good.
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  Speaker 6: You gotta add his name, Mac, and I hate to
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  Speaker 6: give Bagel got credit, but add him to the list
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  Speaker 6: of names in that first Dan Morgan draft class who's
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  Speaker 6: now under the microscope entering twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: Was it Bagel Guy or Bebop that brought this up yesterday? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: or both of them. I call him Bagel Bob.
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  Speaker 6: Bagel Bob because you've got Excel, You've got Brooks, so
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  Speaker 6: you got Trevin Wallace, Sanders Wade, me and Com'm talking
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  Speaker 6: about the second the show yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's fair. So that's definitely fair.
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  Speaker 6: We believe in Dana with that first draft class.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, we'll peck fans coming out of the
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  Speaker 2: Woodwark right now to say so glad we took Wireless
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  Speaker 2: over Peyton Wilson. I actually thought about that yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I was it was a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: I was the schmuck that said I love Peyton Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think he'll stay healthy.
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  Speaker 1: So that, you know, what can I say? When we
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  Speaker 1: come back, We're gonna talk to Adam Gold. I know
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  Speaker 1: he was fired up about the Panthers the other day.
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  Speaker 1: Also one of college stuff, Mac the fifty year stuff,
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  Speaker 1: twenty team playoff, and we're gonna ask him Mac the
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  Speaker 1: question that's weep binging the show today UNC five wins
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  Speaker 1: or NC State plus ten Wins, Sports Radio ninety seven,
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Great Panther Talk Today.
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  Speaker 2: We're kind of biased, but we feel like it's been
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  Speaker 2: good Panther Talk, great feedback on the text line. As always,
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  Speaker 2: Panther fans are cranked up ready to see the starters
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  Speaker 2: in the preseason game on Saturday in Buffalo. If you've
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  Speaker 2: missed any of this show or what you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you just can't listen all four hours, we will forgive
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  Speaker 2: you if you go to the podcast wherever you get
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  Speaker 2: your podcast WFNZ dot Com, Appler, Spotify and listen to
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the parts you miss. We have talked a ton about
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  Speaker 2: yesterday's incident at practice, although Mike k Bone tells us
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  Speaker 2: the real story is the linebacker competition, which has a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of people stressed out right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Bone about that second linebacker, yeah, because look, Cheroist
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  Speaker 1: is what he is. He's a he's a solid hand
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  Speaker 1: as a backup. I don't really feel even that great
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  Speaker 1: about him as the the guy out. He should be
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  Speaker 1: a backup, good solid backup. But I'm starting Texter said
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  Speaker 1: he's a great linebacker. W what solid? What solid? Solid
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  Speaker 1: in a role? But not one of your main guys.
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to fear Trevin Wallace, who you used a
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  Speaker 2: second day draft pick on, might be backup quality as well.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the story there, but we'll talk more about it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll also talk about Adam Schefter and what he said
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  Speaker 2: about Haines King Bone very interesting comments on the ESPN yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, let's get some interesting comments from a
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  Speaker 2: man Bone that it seemed like hot panther preseason fever
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  Speaker 2: and Hannes King of seven million, one of seven million
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  Speaker 2: satisfied customers watching the Hall of Fame game last week.
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  Speaker 2: He is, Adam Gold, Goldie, what's going on, man? How
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  Speaker 2: you feeling?
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  Speaker 7: I'm doing all right? That was the best preseason game
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  Speaker 7: I think in history.
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  Speaker 3: Heck yeah, baby, gold, that's what we think. Gold.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the first time you texted me after
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  Speaker 1: a preseason game before.
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  Speaker 3: I was very exciting.
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  Speaker 7: I couldn't believe it. I literally I kept waiting to
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  Speaker 7: turn it off and I couldn't. I was too good.
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  Speaker 7: It was too much fun.
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  Speaker 2: I love that baby Haines King brings the eyeballs. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: now he's got this hammy injury. Like when you want
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  Speaker 2: and obviously you have, you have you know the background
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  Speaker 2: that we do too of like watching so much acc ball.
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  Speaker 2: So you watch Haines King and how good he was.
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  Speaker 2: You saw him play in the in an NFL game,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: albeit without starters, Like, what's your like, what's your gut
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: feeling on? Like what he can be for the Panthers
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: and what he can be in the NFL.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Well, I saw Adam Schefter's tweet last night and all
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: I could think of was that he must have been
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: driving through Raleigh at some point, because I talked about
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: that a week ago before the game, before we saw
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: Haines King. To me, that was the most interesting thing
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: that I was looking forward to. I didn't know Princely
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: Human Mealen was going to play. I thought he wasn't
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: going to play, right. The fact that he played was
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: interesting to me. But I was really looking forward to
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: watching Haines King because I know what kind of player
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: who was at Georgia Tech and I had been talking about. Look,
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: I don't want to compare him to Taysom Hill, who
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: had a, you know, a decade plus career in the NFL.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: And I don't know.
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: If Haines King can be that because I don't think
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: he's built like t Taysom Hill. But that's the name
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: I used, so I can only assume that schefter was listening.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: Maybe I don't know. Maybe he's a subscriber to the
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: Best of the Adam Gold Show podcast. Don't know, but
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: I did talk about that because I think Haines King
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: is interesting and I personally think he profiles as a
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: really good, fun career backup quarterback. I'm not in love
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: with Kenny Pickett. I think Kenny Pickett is just okay,
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: But I think Haynes King can be one of those
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: change of pace, dynamic players that can help you. Maybe
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: he doesn't. Maybe he is a utility kind of a
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: Swiss Army knife type player. But man, I loved watching
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: him and good for him.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Josh Norris and Mac. I don't know if you saw
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: this yourself.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Josh Norris of Yahoo was speculating yesterday, does Haynes solve
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that third and fourth short yardage situation where Bryce can't
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: do the quarterback sneak stuff? Does Haines king Adam have
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a role like Tebow was at Florida early on? Does
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: he become the short yardage guy for the Panthers?
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: I mean he could. Look. I I have a problem
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: taking your best players off the field, and Bryce Young
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: should be one of the Panthers' best players, if not
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: their best player. So I don't ever like taking those
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: guys off the field. But in certain situations, if you
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: are going to at least create the illusion of a
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: quarterback sneak, yeah, I could. I could see that, But
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: I'd rather have my best quarterback on the field all
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: the time.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: We're talking with Adam Gold listen to him. Weekdays Schefter
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: does Yeah, like Adam shefter Ster, big knees guy ninety
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: nine to nine in Raleigh. But of course here in
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Charlotte weeknights in WFNZ, here at seven o'clock. So Goaldie,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: what do you think I know? Dan Hurley went off
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: on this the other day the court order from the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Colorado court about you know, fifth year players from the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two class who have done four years and
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: four years and this would be the fifth year and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: fifth year making them eligible. And it's you know, led
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to basketball and football programs bringing back some of these
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: fifth year players. Dan Hurley went off on it and basically,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you know, chat at his fellow coaches for even signing
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: these players. So basically we should just you know, turn
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: away and not sign them for the betterment of the game.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about what he said there? But
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: also how do you feel about about this ruling? And heck,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: this is still going to go to an appeals court,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: so it's still it's still not over. What do you
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: what do you think?
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not.
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: It's not over, but it should it really should be.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: So there's a lot of things there. First we'll just
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: say that Dan Hurley had some good points in that,
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: but I'll promise you if they had a roster spot
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: and a need, he to sign somebody. So a little
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: bit of bs on Dan Hurley's part. So, and I
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: don't know what, there's like eighty some odd players that
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: fall into this category, I believe, and if there's a
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: spot for those guys to play, let them play. When
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: the NCAA changed their rule to five years to play
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: five active in five years, I said at the time,
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: this is great, first, good decision. The NCUBLEA has made
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: in decades, But why are they not grandfathering the current
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: class in If there's going to be a lawsuit, they're
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: going to lose the lawsuit, and then there's going to
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: be problems. It wasn't that hard to figure out that
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: this was going to happen. A lot of kids declare
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: for the draft, don't get drafted, and then they have
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: nowhere to go. If I'm college, I want as many
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: good players as possible. It's not that hard. But this
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: is the NCUBLEA. They never do anything that fails to
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: make you scratch your head. So everybody's getting what they deserve.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: I get Dan Hurley's point, little self serving, but let's
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: move on. Let the kids come back and play. And
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: look what I know, States trying to sign somebody, Carolina
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: tying a kid from I don't know. One of the Dakota's.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: There's the same we should have, but can we be
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: honest we should have one Dakota.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: That's one of my platforms.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I've always said that why do we need two dakote
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: You too could run on a ticket. As a matter
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of fact, Wyoming, Idaho all one state. Just make it
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: all one big stake like Texas sized.
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: State I don't disagree with that at all.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: We have rumors now out there, and I emphasize rumors
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that I think Fitty might be privy to. I'm not
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: really sure where it's coming from. That's linking Seth Trimble
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to Louisville for this season. Now, I don't know how
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that's possible because he's out of eligibility. He's signed an
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Exhibit ten contract with the NBA.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: But now we have.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Set Trimble rumors within the aca C, so we'll see
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: what happens there.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Look, the fun thing is that I use Seth Trimble
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: as my example as to why five You know, those
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: five year players like I hope they'll be eligible because
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: I knew it was coming. Yeah, but I look, Seth
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: was good in summer league, right, yeah, let me played
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: well in some I thought he was good. I thought
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: he was going to get himself a chance to make
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: a roster because of his athleticism and his defensive ability.
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: So I don't know what's gonna happen there. I hadn't
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: seen the rumors. But if Seth Trimble wants to play
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: college ball, I say, let him play college ball as
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: long as you as long as he's eligible. I mean,
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: I don't see why you'd be. I guess he didn't
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: sign a contract. I guess Summer League is not a contract.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But I did sign that Exhibit ten non guaranteed training
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: camp content Wizards.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I always gonna do is find a Louisville judge and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: so let me that's the thing, like, he just bet
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: his way in there, you know, find.
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: A good judge. But it didn't work for Bettioka.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Right, ultimately he did, and then ultimately he ended up losing.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a clusters.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Dodgy, James Dodgy is still playing, right, the former Hornet
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that went to Baylor. Yea, Now I think he's at
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: South is it South Florida? I forget where he is,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but it's still.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: High school.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It's a cluster. I think they spin the wheel of eligibility.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Is he eligible? No, No, he's not eligible. Yes, he's eligible,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: all right. Adam Gold is with us, So I guess, Bony,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: we should ask him to you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: You posed it to him. What was the question you
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: were going to pose to him about? What result is
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: more likely? Yeah? North Carolina State.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: If you had to put your money on it, Adam,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: we'll call it your gold coins your your your money.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: What would you think is more likely to happen? U
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: n C goes five wins or more or NC State
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: goes ten wins or more this season.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: Uh B n C State, Well, neither is very like
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: but like empty state schedule is conducive to a ten
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: win season and if they if and it would be
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: basically the first time non pandemic year where NC State
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: would basically max out their schedule. But I think there
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: is a greater chance that State wins ten. I would
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: even lower that to UH four for Carolina then Carolina
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: wins four. I look at Carolina schedule and I see
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: two and ten.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I mean it could be like if they beat East
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Tennessee and Syracuse only like what it can't that wouldn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: be shocked.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You got that schedule three. I don't think they're going
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to go below three, but I don't know.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: On the road at Yukon in November, first could win
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: there last year? Did many da schedule that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: You coach?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: They need Tennessee and another scrubbing man they only they're
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: non conference games, Like you mentioned, you kind of on
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the road, which ain't easy. TCU noted that, yeah, that's
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: brutal just awful.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: It's an awful, awful schedule for a program that desperately
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: needed a good, positive season.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: If if Bill Belichick wins five games, he's coach.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: Of the year.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, there you go.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Man, Hey, look at it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: But if you flip the home and road splits in
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: the ACC, it would be more conducive to having a
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: decent season. But those they're not. They they are what
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: they are. Uh. And I just I don't like the
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: matchups for Carolina. But I don't. I don't. I don't
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: love the skill position players. I don't. I'm not sure
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: about the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: It's just not conducive to having a good year. I
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: want them to have a good year. I mean, I
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: don't know what position they're gonna be in. Financially if
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: they decide that this experiment isn't working and they need
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's gonna cost them, I don't know, twenty
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: million dollars in in to pay off coaches to not coach,
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: or they or they want it back for a third
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: year because financially that's the only thing they could do.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: I just do not know how they're going to get
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: out from under this. That's why I'd love to see.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Him have a good year.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would too.
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: I don't see I don't see it at all.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: You can't bet on it. I'll tell you that, all right, Goldie,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: we appreciate you brother.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Keep up the good work.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Adam Schefter's favorite Triangle based radio show apparently the Adam
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Gold Show.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Goldie. We'll talk to you next week.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: We're gonna handle Pachuca tonight.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: They got you, but no Pep bil Man.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: That dang ref apparently got in his feelings when Pep
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Crinz sized them after the match got red card.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're going to see all. I like you,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: we and their Goldie. There you go, Goldie.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Ma.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Goldie's an FC support from the.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Baby.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I love it all right, all right, Goldie, we'll talk
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: to you man. All right, there you go.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: That is Adam Gold kmplainer and chief very upset as
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a tar Heel fan said, y'all are haters seven o
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: four number. Once Will Healy's Eastern Tennessee squad gets done
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: with the Heels in week two, it will assure an
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: oh to twelve season for the Hoodie AC says, uh,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: go lasers go Will Healey. Yeah, that is that's the matchup.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Will Healey squad.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: We too.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Syracuse is not a guarantee either. They got your guy.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Uh are you ready for this jelly back?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jelly's at quarterback as long as they Yeah.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Let's face it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: UNC beat Syracuse on the road last year, but their
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: QB situation was such a mess.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: They played that Lacross kid. He started out hot though
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that he got hurt. Yeah, the lacrosse kid had to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: play quarterbacks in that game. It seems they could scorts
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: some points. Speaking of scoring, we're gonna go to our man.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was gonna call Willy willye p because someone said
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Willy P Fitty on the sports update, my bat fit,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I was briefly distracted to mean to call you another
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: man's name, Fitty.
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  Speaker 3: No worries bone man.
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• 30:56
  Speaker 3: In training camp.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Yesterday it was Cowboys defensive lineman Quinn Williams. He got
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: his new contract mach a three year extension worth one
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: hundred and five point nine million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Cowboy fit with over one hundred.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: And one million gearing see cob boar isn't a thirty
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: one million dollars signing bonus. So a lot of movement
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: around the league with some big time players getting contract extensions.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Still waiting to see if our guy Mike Jack maybe
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: gets something done before the season gets underweight.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: By the way, y'all, more and more defensive tackles are
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: getting paid this offseason.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Derek Brown looks like more and more of a bargain, really,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: does you know?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Brown contract looks better and better and hopefully we'll get
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: back at practice to still on the sidebone with that
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Nie soreness.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's concerning, but not panicking. Get about it when
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: we come back. Adam Schefter, as we alluded to this,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Adam Schefter thinks Haines King could take on a Taysom
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Hill Roll and Trevin Wallace is fighting for his job?
• 31:54
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• 32:17
  Speaker 8: Haines King is somebody that I think is gonna have
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: a role there in Carolina decision. He's gonna make the
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: team and it wouldn't shock me if they wound up
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: using him like in a Taisom Hill role there in
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: that same division.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: There it is on the Pat McAfee show, Adam Schefter
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: saying he would not be shocked to see Haines King
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: in the Taysom Hill role. We've got to have this discussion.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Now what point this out?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Bone?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to spoil Goldie's role that he was
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: on talking about how he was talking about this last
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: week and Cheff he must have been listening to him.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: But this was one conversation the second Haines King signed
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: in Charlotte. Here on WFNZ matter of fact, we asked
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Haines King himself on this radio show Bone after he
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: signed with Carolina, could you be open to Taysom Hill
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: like role. So it's definitely been discussed since he put
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: he was, you know, signed on to war the process Blue.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: But now you've got a guy like Adam Schefter, who,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: like all of America Bone with the seven million viewers watching,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: was captivated by the entertainment value of Haines King, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: now he's starting to wonder what we've all been wondering.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: The first thing that needs to be said about this
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: when we try to figure out if Haines gets healthy,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: could he have a you know, a multi purpose kind
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: of role.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: It does need to be said.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: When Taysom Hill at his pro day, Taysom Hill weighed
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty pounds, he played around two twenty one.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Haines King at his pro day weighed to twelve. Yeah,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: that's the big difference. He can't do the pooh, I
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: don't think and hold up as well as Taysom Kenny.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: We might need to pay for sound effects going forward
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: so you don't have to wear yourself out doing your
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: own Were you on the football for are in the bathroom?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: When we say Taysom Hill roll, what what are we meaning?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Are we meaning the ability to short yardage run and throw?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Because Taysom Hill and a guy like Cordell Stewart, they
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: also caught the ball. That's why he was slash. Taysom
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Hill did everything, including catching the football, play tight end,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: play tight end? How do we know we've never seen
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Taysom Hill catch a ball? Mean Haines King. Excuse me,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: h Haines King. So we say Taysom Hill. I think
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: there can be some elements of that, but I have
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: no idea receiver wise. No one does anything about Haines
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: King in that in that world. Oh, he's a pretty
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: good athlete. I would probably.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: In space, But like, how's he gonna line up a
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: tight end to two twelve?
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I think that's my number one question. KB brought this
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: up to me too on the pregame show last week.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Taysom Hill is put together. He is solid, you know,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and he takes a pounding and keeps on going. I
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: would worry a little bit about Haines King weighing only
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: two twelve. Can they beef him up a little bit?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: If you're just talking, would you say, Josh Norris was
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: talking about, Hey, it's it's fourth and one, third and one.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: We know you're not sneaking Bryce. So you can put
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Haines King in there and he can run read option,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: he can sneak it, he can pass it. Yeah, I
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: think you might be able to do that. With him
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: bone like just in the short yardage situation, but in.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: New Orleans day to your thought, could be that guy
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: short yard and maybe he can.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I brought up Tremble Mitchell Evans actually did
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the stuff at Notre Dame where he got under the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: center and did the whole mitchellpalooza right where he like
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: it was the what do they call that damn thing?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Like the Toush push type plays under at Notre Dame. Well,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I couldn't think of Toushbush, but it's it's so yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that's an option too. I think we've been jonesing here
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: in Carolina, Like when you have a quarterback that you
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: admittedly say, we can't run a quarterback sneak with that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: takes a very effective play out of your arsenal in
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: short yard situation very much. It just feels like you've
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: handicapped yourself. So we have been looking here for a
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: minute to find somebody that can do that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 3: It does.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I think Josh Norris brings up a good question. Can
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: he do the full Taysom Hill That might not be
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: as easy, but like that role right there, I'm game
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: on that one man at.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Least gives you some options and stuff that other teams
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: have to prepare for. Right at least if you've run
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it a couple times, teams will have to spend time
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: with that. So can he mat just be a factor
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in some games? He may be effective, but maybe his
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: overall impact will be that teams have to at least
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: acknowledge his presence one of those deals, right, Yeah, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: mean there might be some games where he doesn't do
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a lot, but some games where the short yardage comes
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: up a lot and he's got to do it a while.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know, not being able to sneak.
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  Speaker 5: It.
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  Speaker 2: Just it feels ridiculous in the Year of Our Lord
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: shout out Willie p Twenty twenty six. It feels absurd
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that you have a quarterback that you can't run that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: play with. And meanwhile, how many quarterbacks have we seen
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: like Tom Brady? Again, I know what, but there's difference
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: between Bryce and tom Brady's speaker, But tom Brady was automatic,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Like you don't have to just be Jalen Hurts and
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: have someone grab a hold of them cheekers to go
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: get that to be good in short yardage. Plenty of
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: quarterback's been good at it, so I like, I think
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I would like that as an option.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: But he's got to get healthy first.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Man, I can't just get as lo as can be
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and just like gopher himself there between the legs, become
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: like a gopher.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Underneath the big bang.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe go underground if you have to pop back up
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like like pucks a tawny, pucks a tawny Your guy there.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Huns tony Field.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: What if Bryce went dig dug and went underground and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: pop down on the ground twelve yards later behind the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: entire defense have a feeling, They might say two knees
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: were down? What who are serious? Football dogs? Always break
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: down the nonsense. It started with you saying cheekers. Yeah,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: that's when we lost this. See fitty perk up when
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you say grab them cheek Where where are they?
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Man? Uh, You'll be thinking about Bryce all day underground
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and just pop it up behind behind the defense. Husky
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Pants says, how sneaky is it when you got to
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: sub the guy in order to run it? Yeah, you
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: know it's coming. But other teams have done that, right,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: who are some of the other teams? I'm I'm missing
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it right now in the end. I mean, you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it's coming with Jalen Hurts, but there are other who
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: puts tight ends. I know I've seen it. Steelers did
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it last year, right, I'm trying to remember Steelers did.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: There's plenty of teams that will Detroit. I feel like
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: there are plenty of teams that will put a guy
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: in there. That toush push is hard to stop if
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you can run it correctly. This texture says Taysom Hill
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: never turned it into wins.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Feels like the Saints beat the Panthers a hell of
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: a lot. Feels like games. I know. I know Drew
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Brees beat us eighteen times, and I know they beat
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: us three times in twenty seventeen, and Sean Payton brought
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: that broom out. So yeah, it feels like they had
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: success with Taysom Hill in that role.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Pittsburgh is used. I'm sorry, that's a different I'm sorry,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that's a different playing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: They're not sorry.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I was looking at who I was looking at who's
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: done the touch push in before.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh definitely used their tight ends, didn't they in that situation?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they used a tight end named Cotter Hayward. Okay,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: there you go. That would be why I couldn't come
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: up with his name. I was thinking it was Cam Hayward. First,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, what in the world, Oh, that would
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: be a hell of a lot of backage. We go,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Cam Hayward coming at Maybe Vinavea mag wants more carries
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: in Tampa.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Brian says, that's why he's upset.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Brian says, Taysom Hill's going on, I are it's the
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: old uh, fake injury and stash move. I mean, he
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: may end up on IR, but like if you were
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: fake injury and stashing. Bonnut talked about this yesterday, wouldn't
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: you get him as much playing time as you could
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and then stash him at the end if you don't
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: think he's ready for the active roster, but you want
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to make sure he's not touched on the practice squad.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like you'd still get him as reps. Oh
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: here's another text, seven oh four number. You can't do
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: this gimmicky stuff with Taysom Hill. You gotta keep your
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: starting quarterback safe. Is that be Bob's burner? It's gotta
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: be Matt. This is what happens on our show, Ada
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: from Harrisburg. It's going underground. All legal play I feel
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: like they might get him for both knees were down.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: But give it a shot, man, you may confuse the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: refs into a no call.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to get husky pants in or one of
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: our round tables.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Bout it.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: You think he's got some promise, don't you? Yeah, you're
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: coming around on husky pain.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Think he does? I believe in husky? What about husky
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: gee pants? Husky pants? He's husky and he wins the pants.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: You even got a song? What if husky pants? Oh
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: there's Monroelair. We got Monroe. Get Monroelera back on a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: round table. She's text in what about husky pants?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: And complainer in chief though shes out this week already, he.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Can't claim he's got work meetings, which I believes. I'll
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: fight out a lie. I love it.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Bone doesn't the hold back when he thinks when when
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: you annoy him on the text line and he thinks
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: you're unemployed, he doesn't hold back.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's an all time heinee pimple rock Hill, Ryan
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: says Tucker Craft pre injury rand to talk here you go.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why I couldn't come up
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: with a little bit, but it's definitely been done and
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: if you do it correctly, it's a very successful play.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Same as quarterback sneak. You knew when Brady was going
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to do it, but they couldn't stop it, and they
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: didn't even push.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: From behind on that. You know when we come back.
• 41:51
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