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The Ron Verb Show - Full Broadcast from Thursday, 10/01/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: And from NewsRadio 570 WKBN, Ron Verb, 305 here on
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  Speaker 2: a Tuesday. No, it isn't, Ron. It's Thursday. All right, Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: the first day of October, October 1st, Thursday. It's 82 degrees.
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  Speaker 2: Going to get rainy tomorrow, as you heard. Temperature's going
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  Speaker 2: to go down. All right, I'm going to be off
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  Speaker 2: Friday and Monday. So I'm going to take off Friday
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  Speaker 2: and Monday. of the broadcast, and we'll return on Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: on NewsRadio 570. So there you have it. Monday, the
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  Speaker 2: Guardians play at 5 o'clock. All right, so they've got
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  Speaker 2: a 5 o'clock playoff game for you, and that will
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  Speaker 2: be covering the program on Monday, but I'll be off
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  Speaker 2: on tomorrow, as a matter of fact. So there you go,
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  Speaker 2: just a little programming note there for you. This is
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  Speaker 2: just something I was reading just prior to going on
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  Speaker 2: the air that I just thought, okay, I'll get to
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  Speaker 2: phone calls, but I wanted you to hear this. About
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  Speaker 2: one in eight new cancer cases worldwide in 2024, 2.3
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  Speaker 2: million cases have been linked to infections, according to new
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  Speaker 2: analysis from the International Agency for Research on Cancer. So
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  Speaker 2: one in eight new cancer cases worldwide in 2024 have
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  Speaker 2: been linked to infections. So what they're saying, this infection
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  Speaker 2: is brought on cancer. The researchers identified 12 specific infections
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  Speaker 2: worldwide that were linked to human cancer cases. 12 specific
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  Speaker 2: ones linked to human, basically what? Saying if you get these,
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  Speaker 2: researchers identified 12 specific infections that were linked to human
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  Speaker 2: cancer cases. All right, including H. pylori. That's how people
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  Speaker 2: say H.
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  Speaker 3: Pylori.
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  Speaker 2: The full name is Helicobacter pylori. All right, so you
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  Speaker 2: would know if you've had this, right? You would know
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  Speaker 2: if this has affected you or not, or you fell
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  Speaker 2: into this. So H. pylori. Human papillomavirus, HPV. Hepatitis B virus.
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  Speaker 2: Hepatitis C virus. Epstein-Barr virus. So as I go through these,
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  Speaker 2: keep in mind, so they're saying about one in eight
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  Speaker 2: new cancer cases worldwide in 2024 have been linked to infections.
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  Speaker 2: So these are the ones that they say they've been
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  Speaker 2: linked to, these infections. H. pylori, HPV, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, Epstein-Barr, Kaposi,
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  Speaker 2: Kaposi sarcoma, that's associated herpes virus. All right, so there's
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  Speaker 2: some herpes virus called Kaposi sarcoma. And schistosoma. Boy, this
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  Speaker 2: one is tough.
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  Speaker 4: Schistosoma.
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  Speaker 2: Hematobin, HTLV-1. Boy, they just get more difficult as they
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  Speaker 2: go on here. All right, as I read this, Merkel
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  Speaker 2: cell polyvirus and HIV. The following five infections contributed to
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  Speaker 2: nearly all the global cases. So they narrowed it down
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  Speaker 2: to even five. H. pylori, HPV, HBV, EBV, and HCV.
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  Speaker 2: The findings underscore the major role that infection control can
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  Speaker 2: play in reducing the global cancer burden. Despite progress in
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  Speaker 2: vaccinations and screenings, infection-related cancers remain a major global challenge.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go. The researchers say many of these
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  Speaker 2: cancers could have been prevented through vaccinations, treatment, or screenings.
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  Speaker 2: How about that? So I thought that was interesting. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: it was just me that found it interesting. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: just letting you know. Just letting you know. You're on
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  Speaker 2: the air. Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, Ron. I'm glad to speak to you again. It's Victor.
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  Speaker 2: Victor the Russian.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I went back home but had to come back up
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  Speaker 5: here for grandbaby.
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  Speaker 7: Grandbaby.
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  Speaker 5: My granddaughter had a new baby. And I was listening
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  Speaker 5: to you speaking about the cancer situation and the new findings.
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  Speaker 5: My son-in-law is a vascular surgeon, and I would have
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  Speaker 5: to ask him about pronouncing those names of the types
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  Speaker 5: of cancer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, very difficult. But anybody out there listening knows what
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  Speaker 2: those initials are and what it's all about. They would
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  Speaker 2: know whether they had it or not, I would assume,
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  Speaker 2: my thoughts.
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  Speaker 7: I can imagine.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, I wanted to express my interest in the
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  Speaker 5: people of the, I believe, the Mahoning Valley voting for
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  Speaker 5: the Communist Party that wants to take over these Democrat Socialists.
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  Speaker 5: who want to take over the United States. And it
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  Speaker 5: is a worldwide, elaborate plan. They are not fooling around,
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  Speaker 5: and they are absolutely bent on destroying the Constitution, eliminating
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  Speaker 5: the Senate. And I want the people there to know that,
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  Speaker 5: for example, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher She said that socialism
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  Speaker 5: works until you run out of other people's money.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 5: What that means is the people have received tax breaks.
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  Speaker 5: My friend's daughter worked as a waitress, and now there
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  Speaker 5: is no tax on the tips that she gets. And anyway,
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  Speaker 5: that's one of the greatest things that could happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Trump is giving taxes to ordinary people. And if you
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  Speaker 5: vote Sherrod Brown, I believe the reason that he wants
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  Speaker 5: to get in again is to be on the government bill,
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  Speaker 5: to start, like, to.
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  Speaker 3: Sponge off the government.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's not possible for the guy to go
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  Speaker 5: out and get a decent job somewhere. He's got to
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  Speaker 5: get back into politics so he can, you know, get
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  Speaker 5: his payload. And then the governor says she's going to
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  Speaker 5: create discount prices, is going to bring prices down and
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  Speaker 5: cut taxes. Yeah, because your phone's breaking up a little
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  Speaker 5: bit on me. Are you on a cell phone? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's breaking up a little bit. So get to your point,
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  Speaker 5: because I can't go on here with this lousy audio.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, what is your point?
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  Speaker 5: For example, Obama said he promised to lower taxes. So
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  Speaker 5: what he did was he lowered the Social Security taxes
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  Speaker 5: for people. And what that did was lower the taxes
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  Speaker 5: that went into your fund for Social Security.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't worry too much about it. That
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  Speaker 2: was then, this is now. I would talk to you longer,
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  Speaker 2: but your audio quality is terrible. It's not even, I
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  Speaker 2: can't even understand it because I'm losing a lot of
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  Speaker 2: chop on it. All right, I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: I apologize.
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  Speaker 2: All right, it's not working out for me today. But
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  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Listen, I'm the first guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this again. I'll say it over and over
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  Speaker 2: and over to each and every one of you. As
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  Speaker 2: much as I bellyache about maybe Trump as far as
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  Speaker 2: the Kennedy Center or bellyache about Trump as far as
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  Speaker 2: the war in Iran is concerned, in general, he's done
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good things for the country. In general,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff, if he wasn't elected, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that he's done wouldn't have been accomplished.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I say this time and time again.
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  Speaker 2: Under no circumstances will I vote for Sherrod Brown or
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  Speaker 2: Amy Acton. Under absolutely zero circumstances. I am somewhat shocked
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  Speaker 2: and somewhat disappointed in the number of signs I see
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  Speaker 2: in this community of people for Amy Acton and Sherrod Brown.
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  Speaker 2: And is it just because, well, I'm a Democrat? Because
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Democrat, this is... are the people I'm supporting?
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I bring it to your attention. Amy
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  Speaker 2: Acton left during COVID because she couldn't take the heat,
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  Speaker 2: so she got out of the kitchen. So now she
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  Speaker 2: thinks she wants to be the governor? I mean, does
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  Speaker 2: that make a lick of sense to any of you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, in most cases, you don't know a thing
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  Speaker 2: that she stands for. I go back to say Amy
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  Speaker 2: Acton won't debate Ramaswamy. She will not debate him. So
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  Speaker 2: you want to be the governor, but we can't get
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  Speaker 2: a debate between you and Ramaswamy. And let's be realistic.
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  Speaker 2: It's still pretty close. Yes, Amy Acton, you have the lead.
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  Speaker 2: but not a huge lead. But don't you think the
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  Speaker 2: citizens of Ohio deserve there to be a debate between
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  Speaker 2: you two? Don't you think that's something you should do
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  Speaker 2: in a gubernatorial race in the state of Ohio? But
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  Speaker 2: you refuse to do it. She refuses to do it.
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  Speaker 8: Well, why?
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  Speaker 2: What are you afraid of? I don't care for that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't support it. I don't appreciate it. I certainly
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  Speaker 2: won't vote for it. So those two things right off
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  Speaker 2: the bat, you left during COVID because you couldn't take
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  Speaker 2: the heat. You got out of the kitchen. You quit.
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  Speaker 2: And now you say you want to be governor. And
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot more heat in the kitchen being governor
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  Speaker 2: than there ever was you being the state's doctor. And
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  Speaker 2: you won't debate Ramaswamy. That's enough for me to say,
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  Speaker 2: then you don't get my vote. Under no circumstances can
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  Speaker 2: I vote for you. Sherrod Brown is running advertising like
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  Speaker 2: he's never been around for 30 years. All I need
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  Speaker 2: to know about Sherrod Brown, which I tell you guys
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  Speaker 2: on a regular basis, is he supported all the lunatic
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  Speaker 2: things that Joe Biden believed in. Now, I can't help it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of unions, they seem to endorse Democrats. Their
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  Speaker 2: rank and file usually doesn't vote for them, but they
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  Speaker 2: seem to support them. It's beyond me. It seems the
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  Speaker 2: Republican Party is really the party of America and a
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  Speaker 2: working person more than the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party
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  Speaker 2: has become the party of the oddballs. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: I get into this so much, is to remind people
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  Speaker 2: when they're in charge, what do they do? Well, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to rename stuff and we can't call it Fort
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  Speaker 2: Hood anymore. We're going to rip down statues of American history.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get rid of these statues, whitewash American history,
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  Speaker 2: rename Fort Hood and all these other places. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to tell you there's nothing odd out there anymore. Everything's acceptable.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't accept everything, then you're some type
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  Speaker 2: of a racist. If you don't accept a man wearing
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  Speaker 2: a dress, then there's something wrong with you, not the
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  Speaker 2: guy wearing a dress. We're going to sit there and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to tell you we're the Democrats. We can't
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  Speaker 2: define what a woman is. We're going to act like
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to call them women or mothers. They're
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  Speaker 2: a birthing person. I mean, don't you remember? All of
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  Speaker 2: you remember the lunacy? And now you're looking at a
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  Speaker 2: Democrat party that's even further left. A Democrat party that
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  Speaker 2: insulted you if you were a white person. Somehow, if
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  Speaker 2: you were white, the only way you accomplished anything was
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  Speaker 2: because of white privilege. Somehow, if you were white, it
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  Speaker 2: made you a racist. And the interesting thing was, it
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  Speaker 2: was coming from white people who were saying this kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. They had sold out their common sense to
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  Speaker 2: try to appeal to people to get votes. So they
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  Speaker 2: insulted you as a voter, certainly if you were white.
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  Speaker 2: They insulted you if you thought, gee, you know what, biologically,
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  Speaker 2: how do we reproduce? It takes a man and a woman.
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  Speaker 2: That's how we make children. That's what is normal. That
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  Speaker 2: is normal. Male and female. Everything else isn't normal. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you had a Supreme Court justice, this
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  Speaker 2: is the Democrats sitting there as a woman who feared
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  Speaker 2: her own tongue. She couldn't define what a woman is.
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  Speaker 2: And many of these other people in these hearings couldn't
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  Speaker 2: say what a woman is. They couldn't sit there and biologically.
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  Speaker 2: The people that told you believe in the science during
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  Speaker 2: COVID were not willing to believe in the science when
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  Speaker 2: it came to defining what a woman is. Well, we
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  Speaker 2: couldn't define that. We can't say that it's a woman
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  Speaker 2: that gives birth or a mother. We can't say boys
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  Speaker 2: and girls, ladies and gentlemen at Disney. We've got to
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  Speaker 2: change that. That's somehow insulting. We're going to put tampons
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  Speaker 2: in the men's restroom. We're going to imply that a
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  Speaker 2: guy can wish himself to be a woman. And we're
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  Speaker 2: going to preach this transgender stuff. Don't you remember all
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  Speaker 2: of this craziness of the Democrat Party? It's still there.
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  Speaker 2: It hasn't gone anywhere. They haven't changed anything. They still
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  Speaker 2: believe in every bit of it. And Sherrod Brown went
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  Speaker 2: right along with this nonsense. And it's just craziness on
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  Speaker 2: their social agenda. You need to accept everything. And if
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  Speaker 2: you don't accept gay marriage, and if you don't accept transgenderism,
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  Speaker 2: and if you don't accept renaming everything and ripping down
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  Speaker 2: statues and all the insults, then there's something wrong with you,
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  Speaker 2: or we'll just start insulting you. You're a bigot. You're
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  Speaker 2: a racist. This is the Democrat Party. We don't believe
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  Speaker 2: in borders. We'll let all these people in illegally. And
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  Speaker 2: then we don't support... ICE trying to get the people
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  Speaker 2: out of your country that came here illegally. Because we
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  Speaker 2: really don't believe in borders. And they got better attention
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  Speaker 2: than American citizens. I mean, this is the party that
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  Speaker 2: you want to vote for again? I'll be right back
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  Speaker 2: with more and more calls straight ahead. I heart radio.
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  Speaker 2: By now you should know not all CBS weather and
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  Speaker 2: talk station 570 WKBN. We're back at it. News Radio
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  Speaker 2: 570 WKBN. We're on verb 325 in the afternoon. It's
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  Speaker 2: 83 degrees. Nice day out there. But you get the
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  Speaker 2: gist of what I'm saying. All of that craziness that
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  Speaker 2: we lived through during Biden, it all comes right back.
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  Speaker 2: And Sherrod Brown's right along with all of this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Millions of people coming into your country we know nothing
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  Speaker 2: about and we're concerned about now more than ever with
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  Speaker 2: who came in that has terrorist motives. The sexual stuff.
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  Speaker 2: If you're white, you're a bigot and white privilege and
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  Speaker 2: all this nonsense that went on. We're not going to
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  Speaker 2: hire based on merit. We're going to make sure if
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  Speaker 2: you're gay, you get this or whatever the situation might be.
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  Speaker 2: It's not based on competence. Well, is that what you
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  Speaker 2: want as a surgeon? Is that what you want on
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  Speaker 2: an air traffic controller or a pilot? I mean, is
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  Speaker 2: that what you want to go back to? I certainly don't.
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  Speaker 2: This idea of, okay, well, you know, the economy and
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  Speaker 2: socialism and it just isn't fair. Well, I go back
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  Speaker 2: to say this. That's America and it's always been America.
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  Speaker 2: Socialism doesn't work. This idea everything's supposed to be fair.
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  Speaker 2: As my father would say, all men are created equal
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  Speaker 2: until the first school bell rings. Then the race is on.
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  Speaker 2: That's the reality. You were born in a country where
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  Speaker 2: you can achieve anything if you put the effort forth.
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  Speaker 2: There was nothing stopping you from being a doctor. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing stopping you from being a nurse. There's nothing stopping
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  Speaker 2: you from being an engineer. There's nothing stopping you from
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  Speaker 2: opening a business. There's nothing. I mean, opportunities are there
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  Speaker 2: if you choose to put the effort and the work
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  Speaker 2: forth and the work that's necessary to achieve it in
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  Speaker 2: the hours it's necessary to do it. But somehow, if
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  Speaker 2: that person does and you don't, we should take from
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  Speaker 2: them and give to you because somehow you're owed it
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  Speaker 2: or you deserve it. This is a socialism mentality? Well,
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  Speaker 2: who's to pay for all of this stuff? Medicare for all?
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  Speaker 2: I don't go along with that. Medicare for the elderly.
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  Speaker 2: You paid into it, and that's what we have when
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  Speaker 2: you turn 65, and that's the program. Before then, you
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  Speaker 2: want to reform health care, and it's so expensive and
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  Speaker 2: it costs? Then let's deal with what the costs are. Trump,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, had a great idea. Transparency. It's the only
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  Speaker 2: thing you go and get done, you have no idea
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  Speaker 2: what it costs. Zero. You go see your doctor, you
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  Speaker 2: have no idea what this costs. What's the price? You
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  Speaker 2: go get a blood test, you have no idea what
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  Speaker 2: it costs. It's the only thing that when you go somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know what it costs. Trump's argument was there
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  Speaker 2: should be transparency. You should know. What does it cost
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  Speaker 2: to get an MRI here versus over here? What does
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  Speaker 2: this procedure cost here versus here? Where's the competition? Where's
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  Speaker 2: the knowledge? Inform me as a consumer. That, I thought,
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  Speaker 2: was the best idea ever when it would come to
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  Speaker 2: dealing with the cost of health care. To try to
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  Speaker 2: get the cost down. Competition. Competition. I've said it before.
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest drawbacks that ever happened
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  Speaker 2: to this community was the closing of Northside Hospital. I
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  Speaker 2: think we're worse off because of that. Because I think
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  Speaker 2: you have one hospital system that to me seems overwhelmed
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  Speaker 2: at times. People getting an emergency backed up, people in
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  Speaker 2: the hallway and all this kind of stuff. So I'll
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  Speaker 2: be the first to say, is there a problem in
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  Speaker 2: health care? You're damn right there's a problem in health care,
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  Speaker 2: a serious one, the cost of everything. But empower the
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  Speaker 2: person to know what it costs. What does this cost?
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  Speaker 2: What does it cost when you go to your dentist?
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  Speaker 2: What does it cost if you get a, do you
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  Speaker 2: want x-rays? Well, what does that cost?
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  Speaker 3: No one knows.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. Insurance covers it. Well, what does
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  Speaker 2: it cost? Do I need to have this done? And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where health care is going to be
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  Speaker 2: five years from now or where the costs are going.
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  Speaker 2: It's out of control now. But the answer certainly isn't saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's just turn it all over the government and somebody
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  Speaker 2: else to pay. Well, who? So there's the whole socialism thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm from a different school, maybe a different time. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I think there's people who just need a good kick
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  Speaker 2: in the ass. Get off your lazy ass and do
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  Speaker 2: something with your life.
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  Speaker 7: Go to work.
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  Speaker 2: Put a little effort forth. I'll be right back and
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  Speaker 2: take calls in a minute. News Radio 570 WKVN.
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  Speaker 6: Portage County jurors have convicted a Kent man on charges
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  Speaker 6: of rape. Investigators say that Giles Jones assaulted a woman
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  Speaker 6: inside a Ravenna store in February of 2023. Jones has
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  Speaker 6: been found guilty on charges including rape and kidnapping and
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  Speaker 6: will be sentenced at a later date. Cincinnati police are
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: searching for a missing Evanston man with autism. 18-year-old Donnell
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  Speaker 6: Adams was last seen outside his mother's Gilbert Avenue home
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  Speaker 6: Tuesday evening. He was wearing a black Nike hat, black
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  Speaker 6: hoodie with a Nike sign, black jeans, and dark colored shoes.
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  Speaker 6: Anyone with information on his whereabouts is asked to call police.
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  Speaker 6: The Bexley community is getting a new mayor. Bexley native
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  Speaker 6: Michael Price has been serving as the city's Recreation and
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  Speaker 6: Parks Department Director and has now been appointed mayor by
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  Speaker 6: the City Council after Mayor Ben Kessler stepped down.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andy Betts.
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  Speaker 10: All right, you're on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, my feelings.
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  Speaker 12: Go out, number one, to the rank and file, the lieutenants,
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  Speaker 12: the captains of the Youngstown Police Department for having a
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  Speaker 12: woke mayor. I mean, he put a sergeant, woman sergeant,
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  Speaker 12: as a chief of police, disregarding all the norms.
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  Speaker 6: I mean.
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  Speaker 12: Why would you put a sergeant in a chief position
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  Speaker 12: other than it's a woke position, a woke meeting? It
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: doesn't make any sense, and it demoralized the whole department.
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  Speaker 12: These captains and lieutenants, they go to school all their
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  Speaker 12: lives trying to come up with— they' re very talented— I don't
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  Speaker 12: know about this sergeant, but I don't think she hit
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  Speaker 12: the streets of Youngstown. I don't think she's ever been
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  Speaker 12: on the streets.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't know. You don't think, but you don't know.
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  Speaker 13: I know.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 13: I know.
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  Speaker 12: She's been in internal affairs most of her life. You're
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  Speaker 12: telling me she's above a captain? She has more knowledge
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  Speaker 12: than a captain?
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  Speaker 2: What I'm telling you is when you're mayor, you can
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  Speaker 2: put whoever you want in that position is what I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 12: But you're talking about it.
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  Speaker 11: You can do what you want.
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  Speaker 12: But it's a woke decision, ain't it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 12: You can do what you want.
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  Speaker 14: What other reason?
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  Speaker 7: I mean.
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  Speaker 12: Why would you put it?
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  Speaker 13: Why would you pick it?
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  Speaker 12: You're in the military.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, he thought she was the best choice. Wouldn't you think? Obviously,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: he must have thought she was the best choice. I'm
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: only assuming.
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  Speaker 13: Well, what about the merit?
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  Speaker 12: You know, the guys, like I said, have a lot
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  Speaker 12: of knowledge. They've been to school for 20-some more years
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  Speaker 12: than her. They're very intelligent.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: How to run a force.
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  Speaker 12: It takes a lot.
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  Speaker 5: And you're telling me.
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  Speaker 11: I'm telling you, he's never in the military.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he got elected mayor. He thought she
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  Speaker 2: was a good choice. He chose her.
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  Speaker 7: Well, maybe it's.
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  Speaker 5: Wrong, though.
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  Speaker 11: You talk about everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus. And he has the right to make that choice.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't hear a lot of people bellyaching about
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  Speaker 2: the choice at all. Contrary to what you what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 7: Could be a woke choice. Could be, right? We don't know.
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  Speaker 2: His speculation there, but he's the mayor. That's who he
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  Speaker 2: thought was the right choice. That's who he put in there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see anybody really complaining about it on the
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  Speaker 2: police department. They seem to be okay with it.
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  Speaker 7: And just like everything else, get everybody out to vote
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  Speaker 7: and change things.
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  Speaker 15: Right.
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  Speaker 7: You have a new mayor. You have a new police chief. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So that's people. People did not reelect Tito Brown. They
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: didn't like what he did. They elected this guy. And
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  Speaker 2: he's made some changes that people seem to like. And
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody other than that last caller bellyache
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  Speaker 2: like with his speculation about stuff that he probably knows
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  Speaker 2: nothing about.
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  Speaker 7: Let's do the important thing. And I called when you said.
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  Speaker 7: You were going to lay around on your lazy butt
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  Speaker 7: for four days this weekend. So let's get to the
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: important stuff. You and the caller, I don't know if
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: you're familiar with him. I don't remember hearing him before.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: 35-year-old male playing video games, and he looks at his
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: friends of the same age who have kids, and it
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  Speaker 7: really cuts into your time of playing video games. And
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: then the broads, they're at the gym dressed scantily clad,
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: and they are. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: It's absurd. However— Well, I don't think there's anything wrong
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  Speaker 2: with that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: Yes, perverts would not. It's disconcerting, at least. It's really
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  Speaker 7: changed over the years. You're basically wearing a bikini in
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  Speaker 7: the gym. What are you doing? It's not the place
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  Speaker 7: for that. You want to go to the bar afterwards,
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: do something else. So the young man, 35 years old,
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: you gave him great advice. You find the female, the
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: girl of your dreams, and then you have kids because
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: those two things are the most important decisions you ever
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  Speaker 7: make in your life.
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  Speaker 2: It is life. I mean, it's a large part of
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  Speaker 2: what life is all about. I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: This is what you consider to be normal, right? This
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: is what is normal. And I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: some of these people... I don't know what they're looking
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  Speaker 2: for out of life, but that's one of the best
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  Speaker 2: parts of life. Like I said then, like I'll say
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  Speaker 2: it again, find the right match. Listen, no one's perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's going to get on your nerves. Everybody's going to
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  Speaker 2: have their shortcomings and all this kind of stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: you overlook that. You find a person that you think
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  Speaker 2: you're most compatible with that makes your knees knock and
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And you ask her to
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  Speaker 2: marry you. And if she says yes, that's the biggest
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  Speaker 2: compliment you'll ever receive as a man. Period. Right? And
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you put her on a pedestal and treat her nice.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And she should put you on one and treat you nice.
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  Speaker 2: And then you bring kids into the world. And it's
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful experience.
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  Speaker 7: You have the same thoughts, the same goals. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 16: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it's a partner for life, hopefully,
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  Speaker 2: and it all works out. I mean, that's really what
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  Speaker 2: it's all about. And people would say, oh, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want that. Well, how the heck did most of you
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  Speaker 2: get here? Didn't you get here from, you know how
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  Speaker 2: I got here? My mother was in love with my
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  Speaker 2: father up until the day he passed away. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was a beautiful relationship to watch as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: My mother never cheated on my father. My father never
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  Speaker 2: cheated on my mother. They were simply in love and
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  Speaker 2: nice to each other. And they brought children into the world.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what was important to them? Well, going
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  Speaker 2: to work and putting a roof over their kids' heads
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  Speaker 2: and raising their children. And that's what they thought was
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  Speaker 2: the most important thing in life. And guess what? It was.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 7: And if you ever stop by the local retirement home,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: think of Bobby from Austintown in the Shady Pines Rest
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  Speaker 7: Home there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: All the people in there will tell you the same thing.
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  Speaker 7: Have children. Oh, my gosh. I used to take the
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  Speaker 7: kids to visit grandparents often. Oh, my Lord. People were
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  Speaker 7: running out of the old ladies were running out of
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  Speaker 7: their rooms with handfuls of candy. Oh, my God. Oh, my.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: Because they know what I'm trying to say to this
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  Speaker 7: young man is they're 75. They're 85 like Ron. They've
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  Speaker 7: been 35 before. Right. Like you. You haven't been 75
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  Speaker 7: or 85 like Ron.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't even been 57 like Jake.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Knock it off at the 75 and 85, because
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Ron hasn't been there yet either.
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  Speaker 7: But you have the right idea. Whether it's history or
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  Speaker 7: whatever it is, we can look back, and it was
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  Speaker 7: just better. I don't want to call the young man
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  Speaker 7: selfish or anything, but it is kind of selfish, if
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  Speaker 7: you can, to not have the kids. And you don't
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  Speaker 7: know what you're missing.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: That's probably the biggest part of it. And here's two
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  Speaker 7: seasoned fathers and males telling you, go find a girl
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  Speaker 7: and have kids. And then do your best to, once
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  Speaker 7: you have children, it's more than just about you two.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's about your family. I mean, treat each other
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  Speaker 2: with respect.
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  Speaker 7: Teach your children to respect people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty simple, don't you think? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty simple. And I know it makes you sound
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  Speaker 2: 102 years old, but I'll say it anyway. When I
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  Speaker 2: was growing up and going to school, I can't think
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  Speaker 2: of too many divorced kids. Most kids came from an
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  Speaker 2: intact family. I mean, they had a mother and father.
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  Speaker 2: They had the same name as their parents and that
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And somewhere along the line, no, there
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  Speaker 2: wasn't any of that.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: And people stuck together. And there was just a different mentality. And, boy,
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  Speaker 2: you were blessed to have that mentality. I mean, I
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: never had to grow up and spend half the time
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  Speaker 2: over here. Your parents got divorced and the other half
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  Speaker 2: over here. My dad always made sure there was a
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  Speaker 2: roof over our head, food in our belly, and his
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  Speaker 2: kids were taken care of.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: My mother always made sure that... She took care of
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  Speaker 2: the family. I mean, what more could you possibly want?
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  Speaker 2: What a great childhood that most people had. I mean,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: what a great time it happened to be. And then
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to grow up and to have the same thing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to sit and watch your kids grow up and see
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  Speaker 2: how they turn out. And as my mother used to say,
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  Speaker 2: the only thing she wished for is that she could
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  Speaker 2: be around long enough to watch her children grow up
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  Speaker 2: and to see what happens. And now as I get older,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the same scenario. It's the only thing I
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  Speaker 2: wish for. Stick around as long as I can to
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  Speaker 2: watch them.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, because it's a beautiful thing. Yes. And I just told,
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  Speaker 7: it was funny that this happened because last weekend I
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: was with my nephew, and I told him he's getting
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  Speaker 7: married at the end of the month, October, and I
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: told him, dude, You did the one thing that matters.
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  Speaker 7: Now the next thing that matters is get married and
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  Speaker 7: have a bunch of kids. Because, you know, it's more fun.
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  Speaker 17: I don't know.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: It's better for the kids when there's a bunch of them, right,
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  Speaker 7: and they're all together. And you grow up your whole lives,
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: your siblings that you grew up with, and there's a
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: bunch of them, right?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And don't move all over the country. Sometimes it's good
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  Speaker 2: to have grandma and grandpa around so that they can
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: be there or visit your kids on a regular basis.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: It's part of the family unit. I just think we're
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: losing so much anymore these days. And you get it.
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  Speaker 2: You see it. It's really what it's all about.
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  Speaker 7: And we can make it better, and we've got to
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  Speaker 7: get the people to realize, you know, how to do it.
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  Speaker 7: And this is part of it, is having the kids
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  Speaker 7: and being willing to, you know, do you not know
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: any happy people with kids? Maybe they're not doing it right.
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  Speaker 2: I think most of them are pretty ebulous and kind
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: of get frustrated. Kids take a lot of attention. But
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: guess what? When I was one, I took a lot
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: of attention, too. I mean, my mother had to shut
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the television off. She had to sit at the table,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: make sure we did our homework, help us when we
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: got stumped and all this kind of stuff. But that's
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: being a parent. It wasn't as though, oh, man, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: don't want to have to put that effort forth. Well,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: that's absolutely ridiculous to me. It's a sacrifice that you make,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: but it's the outcome that comes from it that is
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: so rewarding.
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  Speaker 7: It's the hardest job you'll ever love.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I look at my kids. They're smarter than I am.
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  Speaker 2: They do things better than I do.
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: Okay, that's not fair, Ron.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: But I look and I say, hey, that's how it's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: supposed to be. And, you know, that's a good thing.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: That's what you're... That's what you're supposed to do. I
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: That's how we got here in society is being better
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: on top of better on top of better, right? Your
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: parents taught you stuff. You taught your kids stuff. Well,
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: guess what? It just adds up. It just keeps adding up.
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: We get better and better and better.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: And then some moron writes a 1619 project book. And
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: idiots are saying different things and saying a boy can
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: be a girl.
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: No, they can't.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: It's not possible.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Or this whole idea. I mean, when Disney said, oh,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: we can't say ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Now,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I think they went back to that because of these
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: goofball Democrats that thought somehow that's insulting. Well, they did.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: They want to do away with the terms mother and father.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: This is what you want to vote for again because
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: of whatever Trump's doing? I will never vote for that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: This is your mother. This is your father. Oh, birthing parents.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: What the hell are these people? These people are lunatics.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: And then, pile on top of it, Iran writes a
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: letter to the American people and says, vote for the Democrats. Oh, okay.
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: Why don't you fly a plane with a bunch of
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: people into the ground and murder more people?
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: That seems like a good bunch of people to gravitate towards.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, the craziness of it. Just think about that guy.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, the guy stabbed the pilot. He's the co-pilot,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: and basically he's going to crash the plane, killing himself
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and killing everybody on board. What mentality, what could you
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: possibly be thinking when you've got a plane full of
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: people that want to live and children and families that
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: are on there? What is wrong with you? I mean,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: there's something. I don't give a damn what your religion
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: is or what your culture is. You're messed up. You
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: are absolutely messed up. And at the same time, as
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: you see this story, and Netanyahu, here's the guy that's there.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: He's a plumber, and he goes up and he grabs
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the guy. Think of how heroic the pilot was to
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: get the door, unlock the door so the guy could
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: get in. And the guy sitting there whose family was
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: on board, the plumber gets up, drags this guy's ass
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: out of there. And and then was smart enough to,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you know, hit the controls to get the plane to
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: go up instead of down because he saw it on television.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: And just like I've when you fly, a lot of
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: times there are pilots that are going back to different
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: locations and there were other pilots on the plane. It
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: could go up. Thank God. And take the controls of
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the plane, fly it and land it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: The best of people. You saw the worst in people
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: with that one guy, but you saw the best in
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: people as well.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: Well, it was a mini 9-11 because you saw the
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: worst of people, and then you saw the firefighters and
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: police running up the stairs to save people.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 38:27
  Speaker 15: Yep.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: I mean— You hate to see it ever happen, but— Well.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: That's another thing. You want to vote for the Democrats
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that seem to think the cops are the cops are terrible. Really?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: They side with the criminals. They glorify criminals. They vilify
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the police. I'm not going to vote for that. Are
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: you out of your mind?
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: In the Pittsburgh area, I don't know, last week, this week, something,
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: a doctor at 3 o'clock in the morning sleeping in
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: bed with his wife got stabbed to death. His wife
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: got stabbed with the guy who was in the loony
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: bin in Florida, and they're piling everything on top. Oh, well,
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: the magistrate couldn't hold him for the burglary.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Well, what about the rape?
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: What about he's in an insane asylum in Florida for
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: 32 days against his own will? What about the fighting
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: with police? No, you can't take any of that into consideration.
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: And no cash bail. We just let them out. You
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: can't—that's not how society works. We made this system like
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: this so bad people stay there until we can get
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: them adjudicated.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: We didn't just let them out. Right. Because this— and it's
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: not the first time. But— and it's not the first time
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: that it's Democrat upon Democrat upon Democrat. And they weren't
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: like this before. Democrats weren't the Democrat politicians. I think,
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: you know what, I don't think, what's his name, Fifth Avenue,
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: I don't think he wanted that doctor in Florida on
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: Facebook saying, come to me from other countries and your
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: kid will be born here and then you can go
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: back and then 18 years later your kid can come
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: here and get all the benefits of being an American citizen.
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: I don't think he wants that. I don't think he
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: wants the border wide open and everything in fentanyl, everything
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: going on. But that's what the leaders of the Democrat
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Party have done. Why they changed, I've got no idea.
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: It used to be we'd fight about– me and you
• 40:31
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• 40:34
  Speaker 7: much out of here. And you're saying, ah, he's making
• 40:36
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• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: But we weren't fighting about.
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• 40:51
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• 40:54
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• 40:57
  Speaker 2: being president? That's Obama. How do two hillbillies from Arkansas
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: become so filthy, stinking rich when they were done with
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: working as public servants? Ask yourself that question because that'll
• 41:08
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  Speaker 8: Hello?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Hello? Hello? Yes.
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's me. I'm on. Okay.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:38
  Speaker 18: So my friends and I went out to Geneva for
• 41:40
  Speaker 18: that great jamboree last weekend. And we got a lot
• 41:43
  Speaker 18: of signatures from 16 different counties. And Brian Massey showed
• 41:48
  Speaker 18: up on Saturday, so we got a lot of circulators, too,
• 41:51
  Speaker 18: while we were there. And tomorrow there's going to be
• 41:53
  Speaker 18: a signing in Austintown at a tattoo parlor called Twisted
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  Speaker 18: Metal Custom Body Art. I think it's on the corner
• 41:59
  Speaker 18: of South Raccoon Road and New Road. So from 12
• 42:03
  Speaker 18: to 3, Patty will be collecting signatures there. And if anybody,
• 42:07
  Speaker 18: you know, wants a packet to do this themselves, they
• 42:09
  Speaker 18: can just stop by. She'll have some packets. That would
• 42:12
  Speaker 18: be great. That's what we need going forward is more
• 42:14
  Speaker 18: people just getting involved, you know, just for people they know. So, yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 18: So that's my update on that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good update.
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 18: So I hope listeners, you know, go to the website,
• 42:28
  Speaker 18: maybe download the petition and get us signatures from people
• 42:31
  Speaker 18: they know. Stop by CPATI. She can do the same,
• 42:35
  Speaker 18: give it to you. And really that's what we need
• 42:38
  Speaker 18: going forward in the next eight months. We just need
• 42:39
  Speaker 18: more people getting involved. And then, of course, with this
• 42:43
  Speaker 18: election coming up, if it's a higher voter turnout than
• 42:46
  Speaker 18: last time, our threshold goes up. So like right now
• 42:50
  Speaker 18: we have to clear 413,488 valid signatures. Well, if a
• 42:56
  Speaker 18: lot more people vote, that threshold.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: Is going to go up.
• 43:00
  Speaker 18: Then again, if it's a low voter turnout, that actually
• 43:02
  Speaker 18: helps us and it's going to go down.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So there you have it. Yeah. Well, thanks for explaining
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: it to me.
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 43:12
  Speaker 18: Talk soon.
• 43:12
  Speaker 14: Bye.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You're on air.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: Ronald.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. Is this call coming in from Greece?
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: No, it is not. It is coming in from the
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: United States of America. How about that?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: It's Ted the Conservative back. How long were you in Greece?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I've been gone for 24 days.
• 43:32
  Speaker 15: I believe.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And you went back to see your roots, right?
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, I went home. I actually found my, I actually
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: obtained my grandfather's birth certificate on this trip.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Was it the first time you ever went there? Was
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: it the first time you ever went there, Reese?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, first time I ever went there. And I went
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: to find my grandfather's, a true conservative birth certificate, and
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I achieved that goal.
• 44:00
  Speaker 19: How about that?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: It's a hell of a goal.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what was really shocking was waking
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: up yesterday morning in London, I think, to the news
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: of this plane situation over wherever it happened. That was
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: an interesting moment to be traveling when you see something
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: like that. So now I'm home trying to get caught
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: up on everything. I'm starting to listen to some of
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the podcasts and I have some disagreements with you on
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: some issues, but that's for another day.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Just so people know, I mean, people have told me
• 44:37
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• 44:42
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• 44:45
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• 44:49
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  Speaker 2: now let me catch up here a little bit with
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  Speaker 2: ted the conservative so he decides he's going to take
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: a trip to greece to catch up on his family
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  Speaker 2: heritage right go back to the motherland.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: If you will yeah that's that's You could say that, yes.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: All right. So was it a direct flight? I mean,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: where did you go from one airport?
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I flew out of Toronto to London to Athens, where
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: I had to get a boat to get to an island.
• 49:56
  Speaker 13: Really?
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Yes. So all this flying in one day?
• 50:00
  Speaker 13: No, two days.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: So where do you go first? Where do you fly
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  Speaker 2: out of? Cleveland? Pittsburgh first?
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I flew out of Toronto because at the time I
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: bought my tickets, which was right before Trump's little excursion.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Remember that? It was going to be about four weeks.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: That little excursion, I bought my tickets way back when,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: and to be honest with you, it was a couple
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: thousand bucks cheaper to fly out of Toronto for where
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I wanted to sit on an airplane and the kind
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: of plane I wanted to takeover so that took me
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: to london and then on the way there i think
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: we had a couple hour layover in london and then
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: we flew into athens where i had to spend the
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: night before i could get up the next day to
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: fly to another island to get on a boat to
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: get to where i was going but on the way
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: home it was a little more difficult i had to
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: leave that i had to get to athens fly out
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: of athens um then i got to london had to
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: spend the night in london and i'll tell you what
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: that was an eye opener. I don't mean, I don't
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: mean this in a, in a derogatory way, but it
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: is what it is. It's just what I saw and
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: what I witnessed. So London Heathrow airport is huge. And
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: to my, to my surprise, my wife and I, we
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: got in our room and I just couldn't get over
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: the size of the airport. So I, I got on
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: the Google machine to find out it's the second most
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: traveled international airport in the world. And I, The subway
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: system for the city of London, if you call it that,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: travels through the airport. So I had to get on
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: the subway system. And Ron, I was in shock. All
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I saw were Muslims. I think London has been taken
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: over by the Muslim community, and I don't mean that
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: in a derogatory way. Like I said, I'm not.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: No, but your statement is true. It's a huge problem
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: that upsets many people in those areas.
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: Ron, I was on a subway.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: My wife and I had no idea, obviously, of the areas,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: if they were good or bad. We were just going
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: from one terminal to another, but there were other passages
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: on that subway. And when I looked into people's eyes
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: on those subways, I could see fear. And I don't
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: know what it was. Obviously, my biggest thing to my
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: wife is safety and security when we're traveling, but That
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: was the most shocking thing of my whole trip was
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: being in London for a little bit of time and
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: to see the Muslim. It's a Muslim country. That's what
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I saw. Now, obviously, maybe when you get out into
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: some more different parts of the country, it's not that way.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: But from what I saw, I was shocked. I just
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: couldn't believe it. I was just blown away. That was
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: like the biggest shock of the whole trip.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a big problem like we talked with
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: G2 about in Ireland right now where the Irish people
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: are fighting to take their country back physically because they said,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: we didn't go along with this invasion and losing losing
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: our heritage i mean it's it's if you look at what's.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Going on in ireland be the best way to describe
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: it as an invasion yeah because london is not if
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: you go to london and see what i saw it's
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: not the london you and i grew.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Up exactly well yeah where are the what you would
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: can where are the irish in ireland where where are
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: the english in london Yeah, yeah.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I couldn't wait to get out of there, to be
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: honest with you. Because after we spent the night there,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: the next morning I had to get up early and
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: do the same track that I made the night before.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: And never did I feel in harm's way or anything
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: like that. It was just a place that if I
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: never go back, I'm okay with it. You know what
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah. It was just shocking. I don't know
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: how else to say it. There's not much in life
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: that surprises me because I've been through a lot, seen
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: a lot, but that was a shocker. That was an irony.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: It is interesting, like, you know, with the well-traveled G2
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that we have on, and he talks about this kind
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: of stuff.
• 54:00
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: And what's going on in Germany? What's going on in Ireland?
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: What's going on that you saw in London? And quite frankly,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: what's going on in the United States? We talk so
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: much about if you go to Dearborn and remember in Dearborn,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: they wanted to put the Arabic lettering on the police patch.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: It was leaked early and they said, oh, no, no, no,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. But they didn't do
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: that because it was leaked out early. I mean, when
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: some guy was saying the roadsides are in a different language,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: the call, the prayer, and all this kind of stuff,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: are you in the United States?
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned that. You mentioned G2 specifically in
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: the stories that he shared, and that was a reminder.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: You know, he has.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Talked about this stuff, but maybe we as an American
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: live such a sheltered life. We can't understand what G2
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: has been telling us until.
• 54:50
  Speaker 17: We see it.
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: And I saw it.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: And you saw it firsthand.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Everything he said was 100% spot on. Everything.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: And it's in Germany. It's in London, where you are.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: And it is a boiling pot in Ireland. It is
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: an absolute... And where the.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Citizens of Ireland are rebelling against it, and they are
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: considered to be the enemy by their own government. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: they're saying, what the hell is going on here?
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: And that is what Democrats want for our country. You know,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. I enjoyed my time. To be honest,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have stayed much longer in Greece.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, now talk a little bit about that experience.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Much different world than Europe. The Europeans live a different
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: lifestyle than we do. Much different. And again, I only
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: saw what I saw, so there's a lot that I
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: can't speak of. But I just enjoyed the time where
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I was at. I spent a lot of time on
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: an island that is somewhat secluded. But then when I
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: went to Athens, you know, I got to see the
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Acropolis and all those ancient sites, ruined sites. And one
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: of the most Amazing experience was going to the Olympic
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Stadium and seeing that firsthand. But I would have been
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: happy staying in Athens another week or two, to be
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: honest with you. But if Mrs. Conservative didn't have to
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: get back to work, we would have stayed a little
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: bit longer, maybe. But, you know, there's not much I miss, maybe,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: other than my bed and my shower.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: All right, but explain this. You say it's a different
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: lifestyle in Greece. What I witnessed was, in America, how
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: do I best say this?
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: People live to work. Whereas what I witnessed was people
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: work to live. They do what they have to to live.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Life and enjoy life. I hear that so often from
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: people that travel to some of these places. It's a
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: totally different mentality that life is precious. I mean, it
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't go on forever. Death is inevitable. And they work
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: to live, not live to work. And we are a
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: hardworking society here in the United States of America. But
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: you're not the first person that has made that observation.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be my observation in itself. If you
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: ask me what's the difference between where I was at
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: just now and where I'm at now, home again. As
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: soon as you get back to America, you can just
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: sense the lifestyle change. Everyone's in a hurry to get somewhere.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to wake up and do it all
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: over again the next day.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: But it was... So that was an eye-opening. The weather
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: was good.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Honestly, Ron, there's no clouds in the sky over there.
• 57:37
  Speaker 15: Never.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: And what was it like finding your ancestry?
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: That was really interesting. My grandfather and my grandmother, you know,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: there was an old town I was in that's a
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: couple hundred years old. Knowing that when I walked those streets,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: you know, that was the other big shocker was driving
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: a vehicle in Europe. And some of these old, you know,
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: some of these old countries were, you have these little
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: communities that are thousands of years old. You have to
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: remember there were no vehicles back then. And I'm telling you,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: you turn down the wrong side street, you're in big trouble.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Because you might be able to get down it, but
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you're not turning around, you're not getting out. So it
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: was interesting. Driving was interesting. It was just enjoyable. It
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: was enjoyable to not be in the rat race, if
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: you call it that, and enjoying life every day as
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: they do. Just appreciating the little things in life that
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: we take for granted here. especially just time with people,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: time with your loved ones. You know, everyone's at home,
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: but everyone's in a grind. Everyone's going 100 miles an hour.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: No one really stops to appreciate the little things in
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: life until you lose them. So I just had a
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: great time. Like I said, if I could have stayed,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: I would have stayed. The tourism that I witnessed in
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Greece was surprising to me. Athens is a pretty big
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: city as it is, but there's just millions and millions
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: of tourists going through that place, so it's a little congested,
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: but it's okay. I had a good time. I visited
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of church I think the oldest church I
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: was in was 1,600 years old. How about that? That
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: was something my wife enjoyed the most, she said, was
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: seeing the different churches we saw. So we had a
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: good time. We had a really good time. And And
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I'm reading the news from America, just shaking my head
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: and thinking that so many people forgot how we got
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: to where we are today. And I'm afraid some are
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: going to make the same mistake they made that got
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: us here. I think this election is going to be
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: critical for so many reasons at the local level, state level,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: national level. You know, when Obama talked about changing America,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: he did it. And we saw that it didn't happen immediately.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: It took 10, 12 years for all those things to
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: be put in place. Now we've got a guy, you
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: need more than two terms to change things. So we
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: saw what Trump did in his first term. Biden put
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: the brakes and took us right back. So if Trump
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: is unable to have a Congress that works with him,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: really these four years will be for naught other than
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: just putting the brakes on Democrats.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: And there's the key. I mean, I hate to quote G2,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: but remember G2 said that the American agenda could be
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: shot here because if you lose one of these houses,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: then it's right back to just– Things being stagnant for
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: two years and nothing getting done. And the counter to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: all this in Trump's defense is, despite the high prices
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: of things, the economy still seems to be strong.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: The economy is soaring. The American economy is strong. I
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: think the average American is very unintelligent. They are unable
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: to look past the nose on their face. All they
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: do is they drive by the gas station and they
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: see the prices at the gas pump or they go
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: to grocery shopping and they think this is all Trump's fault. Well,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: fuel prices, Trump's got to own that because he started
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: a war. And I'm OK with that. I'm OK paying
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: an extra buck or two, whatever. But that means the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: world's a better place. Grocery prices, they're never going to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: come back down. You know, I know how that works.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Inflation doesn't. untangle itself. There's no mulligans, so to speak,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: on inflation. You know, it's compounded. We don't have to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: spend time talking about that. So we've got a guy
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: in the office now who's doing things to make America better.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: But most of the people just hate him so much that,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: you know, we've said it before, he can cure cancer,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: they'd still hate him and they'd be against it. You
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Just like some things I saw
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Congress voted on. You know, they tried to put some
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: standards in. At least maybe the bar was low, but
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: as far as congressional trading and that stuff, Democrats are
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: just against anything that has Trump's name on it. So
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: this election is critical. I think the next month now
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: is huge. And I think everyone, in fairness, had their
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: right to voice their disagreements with Trump over the summer months.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: And I hated to hear that because what I felt
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: it did was just fuel discord. the dumb guy sitting
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: on the sidelines saying, you know, there are many times
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: I got upset with you. We're not upset with you,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: but we strongly disagree. And the point I was trying
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: to make is we're going to lose the guy sitting
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: on the sidelines who doesn't know which direction to fall.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: And I think we've lost some people because of the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: beating that Trump's taken from the right over the last
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: couple months. And now we've got to remind them why
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: it's so important to vote Republican and don't fall back
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: and say, well, It can't get any worse. Let me
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: vote for the Democrats. Well, guess what, dummy? It will
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: get worse. It will get a lot worse. And you'll
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: be reminded of the days of your border being overrun.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: We can go back and talk about supply and demand,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: basic economics 101, why housing prices soared, why groceries got expensive.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: When you put 20 million additional people into a country,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: it has an effect on it. And But there's so much,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: you know, we don't have enough time to get into
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: all of it. But in the next couple of weeks,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: as the election comes near, we're going to have to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: start talking about these things. And, you know, people that
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: that don't remember how they got where we got or
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: people with short term memory are just dumb people. We've
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: got to remind them and tell them why this election
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: is important. Why not throw it all away and vote
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: for a Democrat because you don't like Donald Trump? Well,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: guess what? Donald Trump's not on the ballot. He'll be
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: gone in two years. So are you willing to go back?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: in time and punish yourself. Because don't forget, Joe Biden
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: gave us five and a quarter gas without a war.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: He gave you 9% inflation without a war because of policies,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: liberal policies. Your energy prices, the average guy is too
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: dumb to know that the reason electricity is so expensive
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: is because of the many times you talked about power
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: plants being shut down. Not only shut down, you tell
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: us they did what to them. They knocked them to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: the ground.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Because they didn't want you to be able.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: To turn it back on. Yeah. You know, so we've
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: got to really beat the drum and make the point
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: and remind people of all these things. Because it's our
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: duty to make sure that they're informed. Because, unfortunately, some
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: of them are just not smart enough to remember all
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: this stuff.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Yep, you are correct.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I look forward to jumping back into the arena with
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: you and having some good conversations.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I got news for you. Tomorrow I'm taking the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: day off, and Monday the Guardians play their first playoff game.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I'll be off on Monday. So you're not going to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: have me to kick around Friday and Monday.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Good, because you know what? What did I tell you? Family...
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Enjoy life. Don't let life control you.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: That's right. I'll be back on Tuesday, just so you know.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: All right, buddy. All right.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: There he is, Ted, the conservative back in town. I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: hear that a lot, though, from people that say they
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: all live a little differently over there than we do here.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Back in a minute, Ron Verp from the kingdom of Mahoning,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: NewsRadio 570 WKBN. about that i feel as though i
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: went on a trip but to greece with ted the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: conservative after that you're on the air.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 11: They are not that you get a fantastic job of uh...
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 11: talking about.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 24: Why people need to vote republican yet again especially pointing
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 24: out shared brown i'm gonna i'm gonna build.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: On that a little bit shared.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 24: Brown if you like it if we elect shared brown
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 24: what we did is we just gave our votes to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 24: the people in new york because he's gonna do whatever
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 24: chuck schumer tells him to do. And therefore, we just
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 24: gave our vote in the state.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 11: Of New York, gave all of our power and all
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 11: of our.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 24: Authority to Chuck Schumer because Sherrod Brown has not done
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 24: anything for the state of Ohio. Sherrod Brown is going
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 24: to do whatever it takes to keep Sherrod Brown in office.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 24: And that's what he's done all his career. And it's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 24: not hard to go back and validate what I'm saying.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 24: So If you're an Ohio one and you want your
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 24: vote to count to further the progress.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 11: In the state of Ohio, then you sure don't want to.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 24: Give it to somebody who's going to be a party
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 24: apparatchik and do whatever Chuck Schumer tells them to do. Secondly,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 24: you know, I thought you did a nice job of
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 24: talking to people about how do you get ahead, and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 24: I think your point was if.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 11: You're leaning left.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 24: and you feel like you're a victim and big money's
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 24: against you and big business is against you and there's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 24: no way for you to succeed, I will tell you that.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 11: There's never been, I don't think, a.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 24: Better time to become a business owner and be very
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 24: wealthy than right now. Because I think that you could
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 24: do it if you learn how to paint, weld, HVAC, plumbing, electrician,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 24: And it won't cost you anything to pick up those skills.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 24: As a matter of fact, you'll get paid to do it.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 24: We have been trying to get somebody to do some
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 24: painting inside of our house, and they are backed up
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 24: for months. I have a client.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 11: I have my own business, and I.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 24: Recommend young people and anybody of any age, think about
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 24: getting your own business.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: You don't have to work.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 11: For somebody else.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 24: You can work for yourself. I have a client. who's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 24: in the AI industry, that went to the local electrical
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 24: contractor and said, how many people do you have? He said,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 24: I have a crew of about 20 people.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 11: And they said, I need them all.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 24: When can they start on my shop floor? And it
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 24: is unbelievable what's going on out there right now, not
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 24: just with the data centers, but certainly within that industry.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 24: It's on fire, as we all know. But I would
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 24: tell anybody, I started my own business. I'm 55. I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 24: started it about seven years ago.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 11: I never realized how easy it was to get up
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 11: and running and to.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 24: Start being successful, working hard, working for yourself. And then
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 24: as you start growing and you have customers that like
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 24: what you do, now you start.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 11: Bringing other people in and you start creating jobs.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 24: And what you're doing is creating freedom. And I think
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 24: we've lost... the ability to tell people and to tell
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 24: our neighbors, friends and neighbors, you too can do it.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 24: I forever had myself in a corporate cage where I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 24: didn't think I could, and I had to go to work.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 11: For somebody else.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 24: And I'm not complaining.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: Those were my decisions.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 24: But I should have done this 20 years sooner.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 11: And my son is in his early 20s and a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 11: friend of his, and they both have their LLC.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 24: And I pulled them into it. my business and I'm
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 24: developing them and.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 11: So I couldn't be prouder that immediately they're.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 24: Off and running and of course yes I'm helping him
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 24: get started but I would tell anybody if you're leaning
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 24: left because of union and management and I hate big
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 24: business and big finances Get your own thing going. This
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 24: is the freest time, best country in the world. You
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 24: don't have to work for somebody else.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: Get a skill.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 24: Get busy. Enjoy the adventure. There's nothing better than whenever
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 24: you're working for yourself, and it feels like it's from
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 24: here to the moon. It is closer than you think.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 11: An LLC will cost you $ 500 to $ 1, 000 with an attorney,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 11: and you are up and running.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 18: Get a CPA.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 24: They cost a little bit of money. Get yourself an attorney.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 24: They cost a little bit of money. You don't have
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 24: to use them all the time. But then get yourself
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 24: some clients and enjoy the adventure. Grow your own business.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 24: And then all of a sudden you're going to find
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 24: out that you're going to be a starch conservative when
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 24: you see the government try to take all that money
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 24: that you made. When you start paying taxes and it's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 24: not coming out of your paycheck, but you actually have
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 24: to stroke the check, now you're going to get an
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 24: eye-opener of, the waste and abuse and the fraud and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 24: everything else that's in the government when they start taking that.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 24: And it's not just a line item that says FICA
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 24: on a pay stub. So I would encourage everybody, and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 24: we're going to need Northeast Ohio if we're going to
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 24: beat Sherrod Brown. You guys did it before. That's how
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 24: we got Bernie Marino in. But we're going to need,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 24: especially Mahoning County, we're going to need that whole valley
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 24: needs to show up and vote Republican.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that. Stand by for me. I want
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: to ask you a few more questions. Just hang on.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting guy. I want to talk to him
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: some more. Fascinating man. Back with more after this. News
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  Speaker 25: Governor DeWine is saying the gas tax holiday goes into
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 25: effect this coming Sunday. Suspension of that tax for 90
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 25: days means a reduction of 38 cents per gallon on
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 25: gasoline and 47 cents per gallon on diesel. A one-time
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 25: prosecutor in Cuyahoga County finds himself on the other side
• 1:11:16
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  Speaker 26: 43-year-old attorney Carl Sullivan is charged in Cuyahoga County with
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 26: two counts of obstruction of justice. He entered not guilty
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 26: pleas to those charges Thursday in Cuyahoga County Common Police Corp.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 26: Saw his bond set at $ 10, 000. Sullivan has been practicing
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 26: as a defense attorney. No word on the specifics of
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 26: his alleged crimes. He once worked as an assistant Cuyahoga
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 26: County prosecutor before leaving that office in December 2021. Sullivan
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 26: has been in private practice the past two years. He'll
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 26: be back in court. Next Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: you're on the air.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still here. All right, good. So you had a
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: regular job. You were in the corporate world, you said?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 24: That's correct.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: And why did you decide to part company with it?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Did they get rid of you or did you get
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: rid of them when you decided to open your own business?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 11: I got rid of them and it was because I
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 11: knew that I kind.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 24: Of thought about my employer as a stock portfolio. And
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 24: if you're working for one employer, you're invested all in
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 24: one stock.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 11: And over the years, I know I had.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 24: Acquired talents doing different jobs for different businesses, moved around
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 24: a lot. And it was always my dream, and the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 24: thought always in the back of my mind is, when
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 24: you work for one employer, and all you need to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 24: do is have your boss change, and someone else comes
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 24: in and And regime change, and maybe you're still a
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 24: good fit, maybe you're not, and everybody hangs on by
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 24: their fingernails. And then there's the quarter where you miss
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 24: your numbers and you hang on by your fingernails. And
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 24: it's always just a ton of stress. There was a
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 24: ton of bureaucracy. For me, it just kind of got
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 24: to be boring and Groundhog Day. And I just kind
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 24: of had this experiment in my mind of, because we
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 24: were using consultants, and that's what I'm doing. I'm a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 24: business consultant.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: And I thought.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 11: Why couldn't I do that?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 24: Why couldn't I become a business consultant and use all
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 24: those years of experience and then have multiple clients? And
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 24: then I'll bet I don't have to work full-time because
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 24: if there's nobody between me and the customer and I can.
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  Speaker 11: Pay what I'm worth and I'm going to take care
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  Speaker 11: of my own benefits, I'll bet my theory.
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  Speaker 24: Was that I could work.
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  Speaker 11: Two weeks out of the month. maybe three and have one.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 24: Week a month off. So I tested those waters, made
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 24: the leap, and by the grace of God, we'll give
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 24: him credit for it. The business was.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 11: Successful, and that's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 27: I could have one week.
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  Speaker 24: Off a month, which I was never, ever going to
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 24: get in the corporate world, and I was doing better
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 24: than being a full-time business executive at a big business
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 24: after having done this for decades and, you know, moving
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 24: every four years, you know, which is tough on a family.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 11: And so for me, as soon.
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  Speaker 24: As I did it, I started telling everybody that I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 24: knew it's right there. You can start your own business,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 24: figure out what you want to do. I couldn't believe
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 24: that I made the jump, and it's kind of like
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 24: telling everybody, come on over, the water's fine, you too
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 24: can do it.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 24: but what i find it there's no hesitancy with with
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 24: people in a few other what about insurance and i
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 24: tell him i've got that take care of matter of
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 24: fact i like the insurance i have now better than
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 24: when i was with the big business yeah but what
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 24: about this what about that and it's that fear of
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 24: change the kind of grasp people and i think it's
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 24: that fear that people makes people lean to the left
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 24: and that's the only thing that the democrats have to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 24: sell his fear that that they are protecting us from uh.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 24: From big business, they're protecting us from the Republicans, they're
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 24: protecting us from the global warming. They're really no different
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 24: than your local union at any shop that is trying
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 24: to sell fear of management. That is just false. But
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 24: if the Democrats and the union can't sell fear, then
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 24: there's no reason for me to pay union dues or
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 24: vote Democrat. So there always has to be.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 11: A boogeyman on the left.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 24: And what I'm suggesting to people is, Go with the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 24: party that's going to give you more freedom.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 11: I am by no means a big fan of.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 24: The Republican Party. Mike DeWine is a disaster. And I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 24: think the Republicans have degraded their brand as bad as
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 24: Colin Kaepernick has degraded Nike's brand.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 11: And, you know, we've got our problems, too.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 24: But what I would say is that you've got to
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 24: go with where the most amount of freedom is, and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 24: that's still with the Republican Party.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Now let me go to this. As a business consultant, though,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: when you're consulting, over the period of time that you've
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: been doing it, what do you think is one of
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: the most in common, biggest problems you see business have
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: that a lot of your clients seem to have?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 24: Getting good people, especially with skills. And, you know, I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 24: heard today that we are at the lowest unemployment rate
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 24: in Ohio in history. But that's not exactly true.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 24: when you could because it's the metric we never talk
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 24: about is that labor participation rate back and if you
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 24: back up twenty years ago i think the labor participation
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 24: rate in ohio with somewhere around let's call it seventy
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 24: percent at which means thirty percent of the people decided
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 24: i'm not even going to look for a job and
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 24: we're not talking about not stay-at-home moms and people who
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 24: have to stay home and take care of somebody with
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 24: a disability they've already been removed from those numbers These
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 24: are people that just want to stay at home and
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 24: sit on their ass and let the rest of us
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 24: take care of them. So that was 30%. 30% decided
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 24: not to look for work 20 years ago, and 70%
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 24: of us in Ohio were working. Now our labor participation
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 24: rate is about 62%, 63%. Whatever our unemployment rate is,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 24: we need to add about 8% onto that number over
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 24: the past 20 years. But neither Democrat nor Republican want
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 24: to talk about that And when you think about nationwide, 40%
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 24: of the people, our labor participation rate nationally is around 60%.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 24: Which means we're all paying 40% of the people to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 24: sit at home and let the rest of us take
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 24: care of them. And you can bet that they're all
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 24: Democrat voters because, as Rush Limbaugh said, the Democrats need
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 24: a permanent underclass. It's kind of people that took the
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 24: deal that you'll get back on the government plantation. The
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 24: Democrats will give you a little bit of that taxpayer money,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 24: just enough to keep you moving forward and not be
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 24: ever successful. And the deal is the payback is you
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 24: vote Democrat and we'll continue this permanent underclass. So we're
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 24: now up to 40% of the nation, and 50% of
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 24: the nation doesn't pay any taxes. Those numbers are closely correlated,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 24: and I think there's the root cause. So it isn't
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 24: that we don't have enough people, but you can't have
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 24: a 60% labor participation rate, nobody talking about it. But
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 24: that is the biggest challenge right now, is finding people
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 24: with skills that will show up every day and have
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 24: a talent and apply themselves. I think that's number one
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 24: and it has been for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Is it rewarding for you when you consult these businesses
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: and they listen to your review and they follow it
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: and they, I would assume, do better?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: It really is.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 11: There's nothing better.
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  Speaker 24: And at the same time, and what I tell people,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 24: it's business engineering. Businesses are just like a system, just
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 24: like a car, just like a human body. And when
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 24: you're underperforming, the problem is everybody tends to stare at
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 24: the financials like staring at the output is going to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 24: fix the input. So we go in and we take
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 24: a look at the whole system of the business, work
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 24: with the teams, because, you know, humbly, we don't know
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 24: the business as well as we do. So we work
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 24: with their teams to figure out where the problems are,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 24: and there's usually two or three things within the business.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 11: That's really holding it back.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 24: And then we roll up our sleeves with their people.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: And we fix it.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 24: Now, when you see a business performance really take off,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 24: that's what keeps the phone ringing. Now they want you
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 24: back because of the return on their consulting investment. And
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 24: our goal is we want to be the highest return
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 24: on investment of anything that they could invest in that year. Now,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 24: on the flip side, I just had a conversation with
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 24: a client and told them, look, I've been coming here.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 24: one week a month. None of the work is changing.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 24: None of the improvements are being done. I don't know
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 24: why you're bringing me here. I think we need to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 24: have a go-no-go meeting because if I'm you guys, I'm.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Going to fire me in a couple.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 24: More months because this isn't working. And so let me
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 24: be the first one to put it on the table
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 24: and say that we need to have a huddle. You
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 24: guys either want to do this or you don't want
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 24: to do this. And right now it looks like you
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 24: don't want to do it, which is okay. Now, That
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 24: takes some courage because you know that you might be
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 24: walking away from some revenue, but at the same time,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 24: I've decided because it's my business, I don't have to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 24: go through seven levels of bureaucracy to have that conversation.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 24: It's the right thing to.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 11: Do, so I have the conversation. And that client came
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 11: back around and said, you know what, you're absolutely right.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 24: We haven't committed to this. We apologize to you. We
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 24: would like to do a reset and roll into 2027
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 24: with you. And this time we're going to commit, and
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 24: I think we need to get a bigger engagement, meaning
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 24: we need to bring more people in. So it's the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 24: only thing you can experience when you have your own
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 24: business is when you do the right thing, your business grows.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 24: When you treat your people right, your business grows. When
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 24: you want to spend money and take your client out
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 24: to dinner and you want to buy a few drinks,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 24: I don't have to clear that with HR. I can
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 24: make those decisions all on my own like I'm a
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 24: big boy. So I would tell anybody out there that
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 24: feels like they're, again, I'll repeat it, anybody that feels
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 24: like they're a victim, that feels like they have no future,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 24: now is the time. Go get some skills. Let somebody
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 24: pay you to teach you those skills. Go become an
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 24: electrician for a few years and then start your own
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 24: electrical contracting business.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 11: Hire a guy and buy a van. then hire two
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 11: more guys and buy three more vans and.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 24: Before you know it you're a millionaire or HVAC.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 11: Or welding or painting I had a guy come the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 11: other day tried to had to search like crazy to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 11: get a guy to show up to take.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 24: A look at some grout in our bathroom shower that
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 24: needed some attention and the same guy could do the
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 24: reseal the.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 11: Granite countertops in the kitchen this guy also walked out.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 24: Of corporate america He, I believe, bought this franchise, and
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 24: he is busy as busy can be, and he said
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 24: he just can't keep up.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 7: With all the work that he's.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 11: Getting on bathroom, shower tile, and granite.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 24: In people's kitchens. It's like pick something, start your business,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 24: get good at it, and then start hiring people when
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 24: you have more customers and you have time. And you'll
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 24: be a millionaire. I guarantee you you.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 7: Can do it.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 24: But you've got to get started, and you've got to
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 24: stop being a victim.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Some of those people probably would have the same problem, though,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: that you talked about with other businesses. They might have
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: a hard time finding people that they could hire and
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: train and have confidence in, too.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 24: Oh, you absolutely do. But part of the fun of
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 24: it is.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 11: Taking a chance on people. Because you always– you can
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 11: come across– like this young.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 24: Man that's my– he's a friend of my son. Sometimes
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 24: you just see people that just need– you can tell
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 24: that they're good people and that they can be developed.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 11: So you take a chance on them, just like somebody
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 11: took a chance on us.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 24: You've mentioned that before on previous broadcasts, and we've.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 11: All had somebody take a chance on us.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 24: Again, when it's your deal and you meet somebody that
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 24: seems like they're a good person, have that conversation. And
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 24: I pulled guys out of corporate America– By saying, hey,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 24: I know you're good.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 7: We've worked together.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 11: Here's what I can offer you.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 24: I'd like you to join our consulting business. And how
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 24: does two weeks on a month, two weeks off, and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 24: I'll pay you what corporate America is paying you. And
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 24: so you've got to go find your talent and get
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 24: creative so you can do it. You can go find
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 24: good people. But if you're just going to use like
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 24: a temp agency to, you know, throw warm bodies in there,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 24: I think that's what I'm saying with big business. They're
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 24: not creative at all.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 11: Plus, everybody's got their salary caps, you know, HR policies
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 11: that we can't pay more than X.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: But it is with challenges.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 24: I'm not saying it's easy, and you're absolutely right, Ron.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 24: You run into the same challenges everybody else does, but
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 24: now you can get creative. Test your own creativity. Run
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 24: your own experiments and see.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: If you win.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting when you talk about that. I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: knew a guy, well, no guy, I didn't know him.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: I know a guy that was in the banking business,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: and he could not stand it. I mean, that's what
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: he was doing, but he hated it. Hated the cubicle,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: hated everything about it. Left it and became a painter
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: and doesn't regret anything. This is for many, many years.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: And that's what he does. And not, you know, painting
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: interior of homes and that kind of stuff. Not a
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: painter like, you know, making artwork or anything like that.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: And is perfectly happy.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 24: Yeah, the guy I finally found, talked to the other day,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 24: he's got eight painters. His story was very familiar. He
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 24: started painting houses, hired people, got eight painters. He said
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 24: he started hiring work out to subcontractors. He said he
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 24: was making a ton of money, but the quality started
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 24: to go bad. So he cut back and just has
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 24: his own eight guys. But if you're a painter and
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 24: you have a painting business, and the guy, he's got
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 24: backlog for months. You can't get them in. You've got
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 24: eight people working for you, and you're making margin on
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 24: every one of those people. So, for instance, you're paying
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 24: each one of them, let's say, $ 30 an hour, and
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 24: you're marking it up to.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 11: $ 45 an hour, and you are backed up, and.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 24: You've got eight people making that kind of margin every
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 24: day along with what you're doing, you're going to be
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 24: doing really well really quick, putting.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 11: Paint on walls.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 24: Now, there is a trick to everything. You can do
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 24: it bad or you can do it good, but... But
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 24: learning how to put paint on the walls and doing
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 24: it well takes a little time. It sure isn't like
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 24: getting an engineering degree or all the other stuff that,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 24: you know, our generation had to go through or thought
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 24: we had to go through. Maybe we never had to
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 24: go through, but right now it's.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: All in the trade.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 11: So anybody feeling trapped, I don't care how old you are, you're.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 24: 18 or 48 or 58, leave. The keys to your
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 24: prison are in your hands. And right now we've got
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 24: a country that doesn't have enough skilled people. And if
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 24: you've got a business and you can get into somebody's
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 24: house or you can be a plumber, electrician, whatever, you
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 24: can learn those skills quick and you can put it
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 24: to work. So don't hesitate. Get into the capitalism game
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 24: and then you'll figure out. Real clear what the difference
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 24: between liberalism, which.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 11: Is all your money, and conservatism.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 24: Where it's government, get out of the way and let
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 24: me do my thing.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Here's the rub. And here's what's wrong in America. We
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: should have guys like you be talking in our high schools.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, we should have guys like you
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: talking and inspiring people in our high schools because because
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: the answer isn't always go to college. It is if
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: you want to be in certain professions, but that isn't
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: always the answer. And it isn't always what makes people
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: satisfied in what they do. So you cannot have that
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: debt and you can go into the trades and you
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: can make good money and always be in demand. Or
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: you can do so many different things that you in
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: life might find rewarding, whether you're working for somebody or
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: working for yourself, but without having that debt hang over
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: your head. But we lost a lot in America because
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: we don't have apprenticeship programs anymore anymore. And I think
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: in Germany and a lot of these places, they have
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: apprenticeship programs where you're in school, but you can apprentice
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: to see if you like this job or they think
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: you'd be good for this job. Apprenticeship programs, having guys
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: like you speak, instead of worrying about transgenderism and all that.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: this sexual stuff they want to teach. We need guys
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: like you to speak to inspire students to say there's
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: a world of opportunity out there. You can learn this
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: at vocational school. As you were talking when you and
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: I were young, if you went to vocational school when
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: I was young, you were considered a dummy. Many of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: those kids that went through vocational school ended up opening
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: their car repair shops or ended up opening their businesses
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: and became some of the most successful people in my class.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: So that's why I say we need to change guidance
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: counselors and we need to change schools with people like you,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: would be what I would say, outside of just consulting businesses.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 24: Well, I appreciate the compliment, Ron, and there's nothing special
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 24: about me. I wasn't a straight-A student, and that's why
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 24: I tell people that if I could.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 11: Do it, nobody bet on me other than.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 24: Me, but there were people that gave me chances later
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 24: on after I got through it all. But if I
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 24: can do it, anybody can do it. And I really
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 24: mean that.
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  Speaker 7: But, yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 24: But I don't think the teachers union want guys like
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 24: me or the administration. They're on the opposite side of
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  Speaker 24: the ledger. Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: We'll be back.
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  Speaker 2: Your one stop for advertising? Call 844-844-IHEART. Hey, Ron, I'm
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: going to go check in with Mike Leonard. He's out
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  Speaker 2: at Bernard Daniels. They're right there at 250 Railroad Streets.
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  Speaker 2: In Canfield, it's where you go for lumber. It's where
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  Speaker 2: you go for decking. It's where you go for Anderson
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  Speaker 2: windows with the Great Window Warehouse. It's where you go
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  Speaker 2: for Silver Creek Kitchen cabinets. Hey, I'm telling you, it's
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  Speaker 2: all full of terrific products and great savings. It's a
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  Speaker 2: stop you got to make. Let's talk a little bit, Mike,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: about decking these days. What do you have for me?
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  Speaker 15: Well, if you're working on a decking project, we have
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 15: treated lumber. We have 4x4s. We have treated decking. We
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 15: have composite decking. We have Trex, some colors in stock,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 15: and we have a few big piles of closeout decking.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 15: A lot of colors to choose from. It's worth a visit.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Folks, I can tell you personally, I bought some
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: of that closedout decking, and it's terrific. Saved a bundle
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  Speaker 2: on so much at Bernard Daniels, 250 Railroad Streets in Canfield.
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  Speaker 2: What are the hours, Mike?
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  Speaker 15: We're here Monday through Friday, 730 to 5, Saturday, 8
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  Speaker 15: to noon.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Dr. Cheryl Figliano with the Centers for Hearing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, there we go. Interesting guy. Guys like that,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: you need people like that to talk at your schools.
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  Speaker 2: You're on the air. Hello.
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  Speaker 3: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead. Go ahead. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 17: Hello, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Good, sir. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 7: Good.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 17: I just want to comment on the last caller you had.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: For yourself.
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  Speaker 17: This is John Harris here. I spoke to you a
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 17: couple of months ago. I came to America in the 80s.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 17: I'm from London. And opened up four businesses in New
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 17: York City. I hired about 30 American people. And for
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 17: the first few years, I.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: Was actually a legal.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 17: I was on a holiday visa. But the man is
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 17: correct in the way that I was always saying to them, like,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 17: why are you working for me? Why are you not
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 17: doing what you're doing for me by yourself? And they
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 17: just couldn't figure it out in.
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  Speaker 7: A way, right?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 17: And I've been in Ohio now for four years. And
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 17: when I moved from New York City to here, because
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 17: of all the business in New York City, I was
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 17: working from the day I got here. First week I
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 17: was in Ohio, still working, four or five years later,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 17: and I am back up until next year doing kitchen
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 17: remodeling and all that sort of good stuff.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 17: So there is opportunity for everybody to deal with that.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: If you're physically doing it, you've got to know what
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: you're doing, and you've got to be good at it, correct?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: Exactly, yes.
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  Speaker 17: But you know what's happening? It's like the structure here
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 17: is like go to college, work for the corporate industry, right?
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 7: That's what they say.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 17: They want to see that you can pay attention for
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 17: four years, five years, get you in debt right there
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 17: for the college fees. You know what I mean? So
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 17: you have to pay them back for 40 years.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 17: So you have to work for the corporate system. You
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 17: know what I mean? So from an early age of, say, 21,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 17: you're in debt. So you're not going to step out
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 17: and try and do your own business, let's say.
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  Speaker 2: Did you do kitchen remodeling in New York?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: No, sir.
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  Speaker 17: I had three bars and a cafe.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay, but then you got good at doing that. Well,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: I got a break for the legal show coming up,
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  Speaker 2: but I want you to do me something. I'll be
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  Speaker 2: back on Tuesday. I'll be back on Tuesday. I want
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: you to call me on Tuesday or Wednesday next week,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: all right? Whatever day you can. Will you do that?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I'd love to talk to you again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 24: All right.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you longer. I've got to
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: pause here for the headlines. Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 8: Very good.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: 100 years ago in 1920.
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  Speaker 20: A midterm marathon. Elisa Brady, Fox News.
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  Speaker 21: President Trump kicking off travel around the country ahead of
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 21: the November elections.
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  Speaker 10: This week, President Trump will rally supporters in Oklahoma, Alabama,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 10: and Ohio, all states he easily carried in his three
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 10: runs for office.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want all of them by a lot. I'm
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: going there just to make sure.
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  Speaker 10: Presidents as his return to reliably red states is also
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 10: about giving thanks to republican voters and i.
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  Speaker 13: Haven't been there in a while and i wanted to
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 13: thank them but we also have a governor's race that
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  Speaker 13: i don't i think it's over but we have to
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 13: make sure people get out and vote even in.
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  Speaker 10: Oklahoma President Trump says the country is doing really well,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 10: but Republicans have not been able to get that message
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  Speaker 10: across to voters.
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  Speaker 20: Fox's Jared Halpern at the White House.
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  Speaker 21: Voters keep telling pollsters they're not happy with the economy
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 21: or the president's handling of it as Democrats run against
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  Speaker 21: what they call a failing agenda. About 10,000 more U.S.
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  Speaker 21: sailors and Marines are heading to the Middle East.
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  Speaker 13: U.S.
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  Speaker 20: Officials confirming to Fox News.
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  Speaker 21: A third aircraft carrier is being sent to the region,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 21: along with a marine expeditionary unit. President Trump telling reporters
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 21: today Iran may have a link to yesterday's attack on
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 21: a fly-to-buy flight to Israel, which remains under investigation. Israel's
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 21: prime minister says the co-pilot accused of stabbing the captain
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 21: and trying to crash the plane.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 20: Is Omani.
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  Speaker 28: The country Israel doesn't have diplomatic ties with and therefore
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 28: wouldn't be allowed to land in Israel.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: The prime minister is working to figure out exactly how
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: that was allowed.
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  Speaker 20: Fox's Jeff Paul in Tel Aviv.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 21: Saudi officials say they've given the suspect to the UAE,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 21: which is leading a multi-nation investigation. The judge in the
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 21: Lindsay Clancy murder case refuses to declare her not guilty,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 21: rejecting a defense motion that argued prosecutors didn't prove she
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 21: was responsible for killing her three children in the recent trial.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 21: that ended with a hung jury. Prosecutors have not said
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 21: if they plan a retrial. America is listening to Fox News.
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  Speaker 2: From the NASCO Roofing and Construction News Center, NASCO, the
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  Speaker 2: Valley's trusted and passionate roofer, here's what's trending across Ohio.
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  Speaker 19: Ohio Governor Mike DeWine has signed a bill suspending Ohio's
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 19: gas tax for 90 days after lawmakers approved the measure
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 19: with bipartisan support. The tax break eliminates the state's 38.5
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 19: cent per gallon tax on gas and 47 tax on diesel,
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  Speaker 19: with leaders estimating the average driver could save more than $ 80.
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  Speaker 19: The state will use $ 725 million from its general revenue
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 19: fund to make up for the lost tax revenue. and
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 19: the break is set to take effect within three days.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 19: In the meantime, a one-time prosecutor in Cuyahoga County finds
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 19: himself on the other side of the law. Carmen Angelo
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 19: gives us the details.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 26: 43-year-old attorney Carl Sullivan is charged in Cuyahoga County with
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 26: two counts of obstruction of justice. He entered not guilty
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 26: pleas to those charges Thursday in Cuyahoga County Common Police Corp.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 26: Saw his bond set at $ 10, 000. Sullivan has been practicing
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 26: as a defense attorney. No word on the specifics of
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 26: his alleged crimes. He once worked as an assistant Cuyahoga
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 26: County prosecutor before leaving that office in December 2021. Sullivan
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  Speaker 26: has been in private practice the past two years. He'll
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 26: be back in court. Next Thursday, I'm Carmen Angelo.
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  Speaker 19: And finally, a Cuyahoga County Juvenile Court judge is expected
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 19: to rule tomorrow on the case of an 11-year-old girl
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 19: who was charged in the Savage beating and rape of
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 19: a 5-year-old girl. It happened just about a year ago
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 19: in a field near East 148th Street in St.
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  Speaker 13: Clair.
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  Speaker 19: Closing arguments were held at the trial yesterday, and the
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 19: young suspect is accused of directing other kids to take
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 19: part in the brutal attack.
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  Speaker 12: MH was the ringleader of what happened in that field.
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  Speaker 25: She is the one who caused the damage and directed
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 25: damage to be done to this victim.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 19: Assistant Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Melissa Riley, a nine-year-old co-defendant, pleaded
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 19: guilty Monday to his role in the attack. He testified
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 19: against the girl and will learn his sentence next month.
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  Speaker 19: I'm Brady Hopkins.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's go to law firm. We always, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Mr. Dependable anymore is attorney James Melfi. He's the
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: one who always seems to be at the, at the microphone.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: So we make our first call attorney Melfi. Are you
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: with us tonight?
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  Speaker 8: That's Ron. I'm with you here tonight and we'll just
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 8: cut to the chase. I'm on a solo mission today.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: And you know what? It's like a dream come true
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: for me when you got attorney Melfi sitting there ready
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: to take on all comers, right?
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 8: That's right. That's right. See, we won't have a lot
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: of banter. I mean, You know, David's son's in town.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 8: Frank has a jury out, so I don't blame him
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 8: for not coming back. Tally has baseball. I'm manning the
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 8: table tonight.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: You know what? That's why I say, who is Mr.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Dependable to me? Who always comes through in the clutch?
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, who says, you know what? Radio listeners,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: you're my number one priority. It's Attorney Melfi. And can
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: I say this? Can you talk just a little bit?
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to get to my phone calls momentarily.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you, what, grew up in Girard? Did you
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: go to high school?
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 15: I did.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: Went to Girard High School.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: And then when you graduated?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 8: Left Girard for, you know, I went to Miami of Ohio,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 8: then moved to Columbus, went to Capital, and came back.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 8: So I had about seven years on the road.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: Well, tell me, so you went to Miami out of
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: high school? I did.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 8: Went to Miami out of high school, and then went
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 8: to law school in Columbus.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: And, okay, what was your bachelor degree in?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 8: Political science.
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  Speaker 15: All right.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: Gee, I wonder where that comes from.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: I wonder where that came from. I can't understand that. Also,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 8: when you know you're going to go to law school,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 8: and let's just face it, college is a good time,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 8: easy major, go right to law school, and you enjoy yourself.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 8: Like I always tell people, I'd cut my pinky off
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 8: to do another semester at Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Right, but forget that. So then you went to law school,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: and then obviously you found your calling because it's something
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: that you're just damn good at.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely. You're too kind, Ron. That's why they call it
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 8: the practice of law. You practice it every day.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: Every day.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: And we have a good crew here.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: We have a very good crew here.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's the best he's ever had, quite frankly.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we have a lot of fun. Frank and I
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 8: are in the mix in a lot of cases, so
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 8: it's a very active place.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Now, are mom and dad proud of you?
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: They should be.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 8: They should be. I think so. I mean, when they call,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: the first thing is they ask about my kids anymore.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: Right, right. They don't care about you.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just keep on pushing through.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: Really? Well, that's terrific. Now I'm going to ask you,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to throw you a curveball. Are you ready? Okay,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: go ahead. You ever help out at the pizza shop?
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  Speaker 8: Since I was about eight years old. My dad would
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 8: get me back. I'd tell people, you know, I'd come
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 8: in on the holidays, and, you know, on the big days,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 8: they had to call up the big guns. Haven't worked
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 8: in a while, but my son, you know, it's a
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 8: funny thing. It's the only pizza that he eats, and.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: He goes nuts. Now, is it an accurate description? Incidentally,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: I've never had it, but I wish I would have.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't live in... I don't live in Girard.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: I live in Austintown. But I want to try it.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: I definitely want to try it. I hear nothing but
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: good things. Can I tell you that? Nothing but good things.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 8: You know, Austintown's not that far from Girard. I mean,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: but I should be the one talking. I mean, I
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 8: tell people I don't go past Western Reserve Road. It's
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 8: the end of the world.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: Right. Now, I was told now it's– have you ever
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: had Cornersburg pizza?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 8: I have had Cornersburg pizza.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Is the shop, the Girard shop, similar to that?
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 8: Similar but different.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, that's going to be one of my
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: next adventures. I mean, I'm going to try that, and
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: I'll report in to you.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, report in. Let me know when you're coming. I'll
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 8: grant you permission to come into the city of Girard.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 8: Just make sure you check in with Yes. On your way.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: I always do. You know what I mean?
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 8: And we'll have a good time. We'll have a good time.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: There you go. All right. Welcome, Attorney Melfi. You ready
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: for some calls?
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, let's take some calls.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: All right. You're on the air on The Legal Show. Hello.
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  Speaker 29: Hello.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 13: Yes, I went to Trumbull County Court for a CPO
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 13: hearing on December 23, 2025. And the respondent at the
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 13: hearing had.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 7: Stated that me and another individual made four recordings that
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 7: we were harassing him. While we listened to these recordings,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 7: those recordings were not our voices.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 13: This individual did an AI recording, and basically he committed
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 13: perjury because I had phone records off of my phone
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 13: that proved we never called him. Plus, I just got
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 13: my phone records from Verizon Wireless, and I looked at
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 13: every number on there.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 7: We never called this kid.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: Let me just ask you a question before I turn
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: you over to... to attorney Melfi. I just want to
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: be straightforward with you.
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  Speaker 15: Okay.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Caller. So you can answer your question. Are you saying that,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: that you did not use any other phone or anybody
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: else's phone to do this? Yes or no?
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 7: No, I did not.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Okay. Just bear with me. And are you positive of that?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Because I would not want you to be lying to,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: to the people involved in committing any type of, of
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: act in that sense. I'm only asking, I want to
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: make sure you're perfectly honest with me. that you're saying
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: you did not do this, it's AI-generated, and you're confident
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: of that because of the consequences if you're lying, okay?
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: All right, how's that, Melfi?
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: Ron just puts you under oath. What Ron's basically telling
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 8: you is he'll shoot you if you lie.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: He'll get in deep trouble if he's lying.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 8: That's what I'm telling you. So let me ask you
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 8: a couple questions, but I will talk about AI generally.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 8: I mean, AI anymore is a scary place, and if
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 8: you use it incorrectly, there's a lot of ramifications with that.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 8: I mean, we've seen lawyers, pro se lawyers, meaning they're
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 8: representing themselves, create an AI-generated app. advocate, essentially, to play
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 8: a video in court, and a lot of courts around
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 8: the country do not take too kindly to that. Now,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 8: in regard to this audio recording, so it was simply
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 8: an audio recording, right?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Is that correct, caller?
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 7: He says that we were calling him.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, just to answer the question, it was an audio recording.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 8: Did they offer it into evidence, or did they use
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 8: it to impeach you?
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 7: Oh, no, they offer it into evidence.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 8: Okay, so when you say offered into evidence, was it
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 8: marked and did it go back into, you know, when
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 8: the judge, he or she made the decision on the CPO?
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 13: That right there I don't understand, but I can tell
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 13: you this.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 8: So let me tell you this first. Let me tell
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 8: you this first.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: Caller, caller, caller, caller, hang on. Do me two things, caller.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: Turn your radio down because it's echoing in the background
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: for me. All right, go do that. It's driving me crazy.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 8: If they didn't offer it, if they were offering it
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 8: for evidentiary purposes, they have to lay a foundation as
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 8: to authenticity. It sounds like they just use it for
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: impeachment purposes, which you don't have to do that. Now,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 8: did they say you called from that phone number to
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 8: harass them?
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 12: They didn't even say that.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 13: His attorney said that I called the attorney's office, and
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 13: the respondent was there with him, and they heard me,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 13: my voice. This is what his attorney said, that it
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 13: was my voice, and I told him, you're a liar.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: It wasn't me.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 8: Okay, so the argument's going to be is they're going
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 8: to say, well, he could have used somebody else's phone
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 8: number to call the office. What you could potentially do
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 8: is this. I assume they've already rendered a decision, right?
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 8: So potentially what you could do is, you know, file
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 8: a motion, newly discovered evidence or any other type of
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 8: issue and sign a declaration or an affidavit attaching your
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 8: call log saying, you know, on the dates and times
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 8: they said I called, here's my phone number, it's the
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 8: only phone that I own, I never made the call. and,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 8: you know, they can't lay the foundation for using that recording. Now, understand,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 8: you're going to sign any affidavit or declaration under the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: penalty of perjury, so you need to make sure that
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 8: you are truthful in that affidavit. But just out of curiosity,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 8: do you know if it's an AI-generated voice recording or
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 8: that's what your assumption is.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 13: If you heard this sat down and listened to these
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 13: four recordings it's like the individual first recorded what he
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 13: said was my voice and another person's voice and when
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 13: the voice on the recording was talking he was answering
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 13: he was saying like okay sure you know you're harassing
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 13: me and then the voice on the recording would talk
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 13: and he would go back to saying something.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 8: Else Okay, so you're assuming it's AI-generated. You don't know
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 8: for sure.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 13: I would say 99.9% it's AI-generated because this individual, he
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 13: doesn't have one phone number. He uses those applications to
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 13: change voices, to change his phone number.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 7: He'll put a different phone number in, and.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 13: He'll call somebody's number, and you won't know whose number
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 13: it is.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 8: Did you have the phone? Were you represented during the CPO?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 8: And I don't want to know if you were who,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 8: but I'm just asking generally.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 13: No, I represented myself because I thought with the evidence
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 13: that I had, I got a stack of evidence, man.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 7: It's unbelievable.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going to say this, and I mean this
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 8: with no disrespect. Ron, what did they say about representing yourself?
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: I think you might be a fool.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to go that far, but they say
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 8: lawyers shouldn't represent themselves. But that's potentially what I would
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 8: do is, you know, I've obtained my call logs, my
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 8: phone records. They're certified from Verizon, AT & T, T-Mobile.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 8: I've never made a call. I know this office phone
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 8: number is this, his phone number, the other, you know,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 8: the petitioner, his phone number is this, attached are the records.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 8: I've never made a call. to any of these phone numbers.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 8: I own one phone, and I didn't use any other
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 8: devices to do so. That's your best shot.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 13: Well, I want to see him produce his phone records
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 13: and his attorney produce his phone records.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 8: All right, but now understand this. That's only if you're
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 8: allowed to reopen the case because you get that in discovery.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 8: But the case is closed. You have to make an
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 8: application by motion.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they told me that the other day. Well, that's
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 7: down in Trumbull County.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: All right, but did you hear something, Attorney Melfi, that
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: I think was vital that he just said? The other
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: guy has an attorney, if you noticed in his conversation.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: This guy does not, and he probably should have one
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: as well because he can be outgunned.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you, my friend. Good luck to you. Kia,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: call us back and let us know what the outcome is, okay?
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 7: Will do, Ron. Hey, how's... Bubba Gadoosh.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: He's doing well. Thank you. All right. Appreciate it. All right.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: With attorney James Melfi on NewsRadio 570. You're on the air. Hello, caller.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: Hello there.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 7: Hey, hi. This is Tom from Idaho.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 29: I hope I have an interesting question for you.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: I am a web developer.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 29: I develop websites for small businesses, particularly auto repair shops.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 29: And I've been doing it for 20 years. And three
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 29: of the things that I've had to deal with over
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 29: the years regarding legality is the use of images or
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 29: content that's not licensed or copyrighted, okay, or that's not licensed.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 29: The other thing is privacy laws, okay, adhering to privacy
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 29: laws for, you know, collecting data, that.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 7: Kind of stuff.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 29: And then a letter, a client of mine in L.A.,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 29: Los Angeles, got a letter the other day, or a
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 29: few weeks ago, from a law firm. And it said
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 29: that they represent somebody that is legally blind. And he
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 29: was trying to use the website. It's an auto repair website.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 29: He was trying to use the website, and he wasn't
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 29: able to navigate the website correctly with a keyboard. You know,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 29: when you go to a website, you should be able
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 29: to use just the keyboard and voice assistant. So in
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 29: the letter, they said, hey, if you don't respond by,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 29: you know, whatever, we're going to file suit.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 7: We're going to take you to court. Okay?
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 29: So a couple questions I have for you. One, you know,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 29: they're going after my client. And my client, you know,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 29: he hires me to do a website for him. I
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 29: own the website, and he leases it from me.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 29: So I'm assuming that he's on the hook legally. And
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 29: if there's any type of a settlement, you know, he
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 29: would then have to come after me after the fact.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Hang on one second. Are you getting this, Jim? Jim,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: so he's asking.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 8: Some good questions. These are some good legal concepts that
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 8: we're going to unpack here. But keep on going, caller.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 29: So they asked for a response. They said, you've got
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 29: to reply by the 10th. And maybe I'm a fool.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 29: This client of mine, he's been a client for 20 years.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 13: He and I are.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: Very dear friends. And we didn't want.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 29: To go out and retain an attorney. And these law firms,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 29: what we suspect is that these law firms have software.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 29: They create software that easily go out and identify websites
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 29: that aren't conforming to the American Disabilities Act.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 29: And when the software flags a website that's not compliant,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 29: which is 90%, 90% of the websites are not compliant.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 29: When you go to a website, you should be able
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 29: to hit the tab key. And what you should see
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 29: is a button that says skip to main content.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 7: And I didn't have that. I didn't have that button.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 29: When you hit tab, pull up any website and just
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 29: hit tab.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: And tell me if you.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 29: See a button that says skip to main content. Because
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 29: people that are blind.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 29: They need to be able to just skip all the
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 29: navigation at the top and get right to the content.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 29: So anyway, my client and I.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: Well, hang on a second. Hang on a second.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: If they go to main content and they're blind, how
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: would they see the main content?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 29: Well, Ron, okay, so if somebody's blind, they still need.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: To be able to use the Internet, right?
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a... I'm just asking.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 7: They use voice assist.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: On their computer?
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: Not on the website. Or they have a voice.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 29: If you're on a Windows computer and you hit the
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 29: Windows key and the control key and enter at the
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 29: same time, Windows control enter, it will open up the
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 29: Windows voice assist.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 29: And then the voice assist will narrate everything on that website.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: It'll narrate everything, okay?
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 7: And the website has.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: To be coded correctly. Hang on, caller.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 7: Hang on.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jim.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 8: So, yes, there is potential liability if you are an
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 8: online store or if the website, you know, you have
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 8: an online store through this auto body website. there's a
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 8: certain ADA requirements that must be adhered to. And I mean,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 8: there's a rise in this type of litigation. Um, and
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 8: I'll tell you, it's kind of, it's, there's a few categories,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 8: this ADA compliance from what I've seen, there's been thousands
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 8: of these lawsuits filed in the last two years. A
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 8: lot of these law firms pick up these, I mean, they're,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 8: easy cases because the fact is a lot of these
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 8: websites aren't ADA compliant and I've also seen it in
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 8: federal courts and Ron you'll love this in the dirty
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 8: movie business where they'll start suing people's IP addresses and
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 8: essentially they hold you hostage until you settle with them
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 8: or they're going to release your name on the public
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 8: docket but I'm seeing this trend also in this ADA
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 8: space so Yes, there is potential liability for these types
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 8: of claims, and usually they're brought in federal court. So, yes,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 8: you do have potential liability. And I think your second
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 8: question is you're asking if you have potential liability because
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 8: you designed the website.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: And he leases it to the client. He owns it.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you have potential liability. If you own it, you
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 8: created it, yes, you do have potential liability.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 7: And there's no contract. We have no contract.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so if you're asking about strict agency laws, there's
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 8: a lot of issues in the law, whether somebody's an
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 8: independent contractor, an employee, and whether or not the employee
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 8: or independent contractor acts can bind the company or make
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 8: the company liable. Usually that falls on control whether or
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 8: not you have the ability to control content, control the employee. But, yes,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 8: if you own it, I would safely say you have
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 8: some liability in that. So I would– I've got a break.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. A to Z dependable services, plumbing, septic, heating, cooling,
• 1:58:32
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  Speaker 2: Beatrice Kopp. So basically, that guy's got some liability, right,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: Attorney Melfi?
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 8: That guy has liability. What I would tell him to
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 8: do is, in all future contracts, because you can't contract
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 8: away liability for an ADA violation, what I would do is,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 8: if he's building these websites, owning them and leasing them,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 8: put in an indemnification clause in the event that you're
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 8: going to be sued and the the company leasing the
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 8: website from you that they indemnify you and hold you
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 8: harmless for any liability, including attorney's fees. That's a way
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 8: to protect yourself. So essentially, whoever's leasing the website from
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 8: him will be ultimately responsible to pay for any liability.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 8: But under that ADA law, they're jointly responsible, jointly liable,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 8: and he can't contract that away. But he can put
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 8: in an indemnification clause. That would be my suggestion to him.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I bet you there's a ton of websites out
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: there like he was saying that will fall into that category.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 8: This is a cottage industry of these widespread lawsuits. Like
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 8: I said, there's been one around for a while in
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 8: the dirty movie business when people are downloading things and
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 8: they sue your IP address and they say pay X
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 8: amount or whatever. We know it's you. We know it's you.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 8: We're going to substitute your name into this federal complaint.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 8: Kind of the same scenario. This is an industry of lawsuits.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's just what gives lawyers a bad image.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. You know, who knows if they actually have
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 8: a blind client. I hate to say that. But, yeah,
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 8: some of that stuff gives us a bad rap.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Onward we go. You're on the air on The
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: Legal Show.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 7: Hello.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 13: Hey, it's me.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 4: Okay. So just to make it real simple, I just
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 4: need to know if I need an attorney or if
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 4: there's a simple answer, okay? Yes. I've been working the
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 4: job for 12 plus years. Recently, over the past year,
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 4: it's been reduced to a part-time one day a week,
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 4: one day only. And as a result of that, I also...
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 4: that the company changed hands. So they've got new rules.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: And one of those rules is that any day other
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 4: than the day I work, I am not now permitted
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 4: to access any work-related material. I'm not allowed to discuss
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 4: anything with any other people that I work with. Monday
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 4: is the only day. And as a result, there have
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 4: been many times that I've missed out on information that
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 4: was discussed at meetings. So it's put me to bind
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 4: in many ways to just get up to speed with
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 4: some changes in the industry, and I just thought I'd
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 4: throw that out and see what you said.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 8: Okay, so the first and the most bizarre thing is
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 8: you can't talk to your coworkers?
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 4: Theoretically and technically, but I still do because I have to.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 4: And that's part of my question, is whether or not
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 4: they have grounds to terminate me because I'm not following
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: this Machiavellian rule.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 8: Ohio is an at-will state. They can fire you for
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 8: a good reason or no reason at all. I would
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 8: suggest it sounds like a horrible place to work if
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 8: you're reduced to one day a week and You basically
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 8: are not allowed to talk to your coworkers. But, yeah,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 8: I mean, they could set any rules they want as
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 8: long as they don't violate any, you know, what I
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 8: would say, ADA rules or, you know, any type of
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 8: workplace hostility or harassment. But, you know, they can set
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 8: those rules.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 8: I don't know what the employee handbook says or your
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 8: contract says, but it just sounds bizarre to me. Why
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 8: won't you be able to talk to your coworkers?
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I've been doing it very carefully
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 4: just because I have no choice.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 8: What kind of industry is it? What industry are you in?
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 22: I don't know.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 4: People might even recognize my wife already.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I would start looking for new employment.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 4: The crazy thing is, the reason I'm down to one
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 4: day is basically I've worked myself out of a job
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 4: getting a trainee, and they're already up to speed and
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 4: doing most of the work, and I've been semi-retired at
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: this point, so... I'd like to hang on until the
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 4: end of the year. I'm just wondering if they fire
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: me for some ridiculous reason related to this, if I
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 4: can even file for unemployment.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 8: I would absolutely file for unemployment if it's for a
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 8: reason such as talking to your coworkers. I don't know
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 8: if that's going to stand up.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 4: Well, technically, it's doing anything work-related on any other day
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 4: but the day I'm assigned work. You know, for that
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 4: one day.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: So you went from full-time to working one day a week?
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: Did I hear them right?
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 8: Do you have a non-compete that you can't work anywhere
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 8: else the other six days a week?
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: There used to be something like that around. I don't
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 4: know if it's still enforceable.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question, Jim, from another standpoint. Yeah,
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: go ahead. How old are you, caller?
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 4: Seventy-one.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: Now, I asked Attorney Melfi about this. I'm beginning to
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: wonder if this is an age discrimination situation.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it very well could be. They're going to give
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 8: reasons such as what you just said, younger, cheaper, talent.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 8: They can start phasing out.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: More savvy, tech savvy. Yeah.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 4: Well, they've got every reason to get rid of me.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 4: I'm almost surprised that I'm still there. for many of
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 4: those reasons.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: But anyway.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just asking from a legal standpoint. I mean, is
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: it a possibility? You were making a good point, Attorney Melfi,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: when you said it's an employee at Will State, but
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: there are still some rules about sex discrimination and age discrimination.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 8: Yes, you still have some protections, but we are now
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 8: Will State. They can get rid of you for any reason.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 8: But if there's a pattern of discrimination because you're older,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 8: that's when you can start getting into the discrimination realm.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: At that point, the only pattern is my desire, effort, and, well,
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 4: expression to them that I think that rule is the
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 4: stupidest rule they've ever come up with because I need
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 4: to know what's going on even if I'm not... there
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 4: on a particular.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 8: Day does that just apply to you or does it
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 8: apply to everybody.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 4: Else it just applies to me if I'm the only
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: one that's part time.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 8: Well then we start creating a pattern and some issues
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 8: with their singling you out you may want to see
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 8: an employment lawyer if you call our office tomorrow I
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 8: can get you to somebody that does that type.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: Of work perhaps you should Thank you for your call.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 4: What's the number?
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 11: 330-746-8484.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: No problem. I mean, it sounds to me like it's
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: a discrimination. Well, they're singling them out.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 8: That's why I asked him, is this an enterprise-wide policy,
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 8: or is it a policy of one?
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 8: So he answered that question.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: And his age, I think, is a factor in it.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: That's got to be good for a pizza, I'm telling
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: you right now.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 8: So you're telling me the one part-time employee just happens
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 8: to be 71, these rules only apply to him?
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, okay.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: Sounds a little suspicious to me.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, the way you frame it that way, okay,
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 8: it starts to make sense.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: I tell you what, we'll get that award-winning guy, Frank Casise,
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: on it, and he'll slam him.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought the guy was talking about Frank and
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 8: David there for a second. You know, the younger guy
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 8: coming in, trained him, pushing him out.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: You're talking about what you do to David.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, that's Frank to David, yeah. Yeah, we both
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 8: do it to David.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: He's a senior citizen, yeah.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we've, yeah.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: All right, let's travel on. You're on the air tonight
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: with Attorney James Melfi, legal show courtesy of Beatrice Kopp.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: You're on the air with Attorney James Melfi. Hello there. Yes,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: how are you? Good, go ahead.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 7: So I'm currently in.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 28: A lawsuit that I filed last month, and I'm just
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 28: going to get straight to the point. They posted me
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 28: on a public website on Facebook, on an everything certain
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 28: website in this area, accusing me of being a sexual predator,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 28: a stalker, having drug problems, filming children. And obviously all
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 28: this stuff is false. They hardened my reputation. and now
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 28: the lawsuit is probably going to go pending in discovery.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 28: I'm also a small business owner, so I'm also protecting
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 28: my profession, and reputation really matters to me. I obviously
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 28: haven't hired a lawyer because I'm constantly busy, but I'm
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 28: going to get to the finding one. So, I mean,
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 28: is that everything? I mean, what should I do next?
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 8: Okay, so you filed a lawsuit against somebody.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 7: Two people, two individuals.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: And they accused you of being a sexual predator?
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 28: A sexual predator, a stalker, having drug problems, filming children.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: All right, and I just want to clarify something. Are
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: you saying to us that you are saying to me
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: that you are none of those? Is that accurate?
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 17: None of those.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 28: Never in my life did I ever do that.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 8: Okay, so I assume you filed a slander, defamation, libel suit?
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. No, I thought he said he didn't see an
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: attorney yet.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 28: I haven't seen an attorney yet, but I filed it
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 28: on my own because I started looking up how to
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 28: do certain things, and I just got the knowledge of
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 28: how to do it. So I already filed it in September,
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 28: but I'm going to be looking for an attorney very shortly.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 8: Okay, so you have, I assume you filed libel and
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 8: defamation per se claims because there are certain acts such
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 8: as making those allegations that are libel and slanderous per se,
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 8: meaning defamation. they are what they are and they're slanderous.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 8: And do you have any proof of actual harm or
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 8: financial loss?
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 28: Yeah, I could show that with, uh, regarding with, uh,
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 28: cause I love with working less people and just people
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 28: walking up to me. Like, it's just embarrassing. I don't
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 28: even go anywhere anymore.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 8: Okay. So, uh, yeah. So that's, have you served these
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 8: people the lawsuit yet?
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 28: Yeah, they got served last week. Um, and just going
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 28: to say it's Mahoney County.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 8: Um, and I assume they haven't entered an appearance or
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 8: a lawyer hasn't entered an appearance because they have 28
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 8: days to answer that complaint.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 28: Their lawyer is the same lawyer that I've already beat
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 28: five times, and I represent him myself.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 8: So just out of curiosity.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 28: No, I don't agree, but I would like to be represented,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 28: but now I've just got to get this ball rolling.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, if you beat him five times already, why
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 8: not go for a sixth?
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question, caller. When you
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: say you beat them five times, did you receive any compensation?
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 28: No, I did not.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: Well, how did you beat them then?
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 28: Because, of course, the judge dismissed it because there was
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 28: no evidence of anything that they are saying.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 8: Wait, wait, dismissed your lawsuit?
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 28: No, not my lawsuit. This individual filed five CPOs on
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 28: me with the same lawyer.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 8: So you got summary judgment. So basically, there was no
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 8: question of material fact, and you were entitled to judgment
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 8: as a matter of law. Is that what you're telling me? Yes.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 8: And what Ron is getting at is this. Have you
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 8: ever gotten any money from these people? No, I have not.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: Because.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 28: No, I have not. This is why I filed this lawsuit,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 28: because they posted on this everything group, and it's bothering
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 28: me too much.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: It's driving me crazy.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 8: So just be aware that most individuals, there's no insurance
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 8: for this type of action. You know, you can get
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 8: a piece of paper for $ 100, 000, and you may never
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 8: see a dime.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 8: Just so you understand that. That's why I tell people
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 8: all the time, you know... Don't throw good money after bad.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 8: You can spend $ 10, 000, $ 15, 000 on a lawyer. You get
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 8: a piece of paper, and guess what? You have some
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 8: personal satisfaction, but you're out $ 15, 000.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Attorney Melfi. First of all,
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: he's saying that this appeared on a website.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, somebody posted it.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: Right, Slander. Slander is speech.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 8: Speech, libel is in writing.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: Is in writing, okay. So if they've harmed his image,
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: if what he's telling us is accurate, that he's guilty
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: of none of this, and they publicly put that on
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: a website that they have, and they accuse him of
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: this stuff, and he's telling us none of this is accurate,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: then wouldn't he have a libel suit against them for
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 2: harming his reputation and his business? But shouldn't he get
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: a lawyer and sue him for financial compensation?
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 8: Well, that's what part of the damages would be. If
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 8: you're going to sue somebody for libel or defamation, part
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 8: of the complaint to get it in the common pleas
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 8: is compensatory damages in excess of $ 25, 000. So there's certain
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 8: thresholds to get in each court. So I'm going to assume,
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 8: since he kind of knows what he's doing, he put
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 8: that in his complaint.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 7: I'm suing them.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 28: Both for $ 25, 000 apiece.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you're doing the right thing, doesn't it?
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it sounds like you're doing everything right.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: Now you've just got to prove your case.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 8: Now you've got to make your case.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 28: Would you advise me getting a lawyer? I mean, I
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 28: have no problem spending money. I just didn't know what
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 28: I should do, like I should do what, because I
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 28: want to look better.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 8: If you're going to be in the courts, it's always
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 8: better to be represented. Okay.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. Why would somebody say something like that about you?
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 28: Because this has been going an ongoing issue for the
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 28: last five to six years, and now it's just getting
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 28: to the point of now it's posting on everything groups
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 28: because I have a big reputation for my company-wise, where
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 28: I work with, and they're trying to demolish me. And
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 28: it's getting to the point it's, like, bothering me too much.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, somebody called me those things on the Internet.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't be too happy about it.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: There is legalities involved. All right, good luck to you.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: Let us know the outcome. Keep us in the loop.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: All right, with Attorney James Melfi, you're on the air.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: The Legal Show brought to you by Beatrice Kopp.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 12: Yes, curious about the ADA thing and lawsuits filed like that, gentlemen.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 12: If you're a disabled person and a restaurant owner doesn't
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 12: have the proper toilet service or that, are you telling
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 12: me for one instance you could.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 7: File a lawsuit?
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 12: And exactly what kind of award and punitive damages or
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 12: what would you ask for for the award? Where do
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 12: you come up with that?
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 8: You would, there's no, there's no science to it. Calculating damages.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 8: I say it's an art. Um, I mean, what really,
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 8: what are your damages? If you go into a restaurant
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 8: and it's not ADA compliant, I, you know, a lot
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 8: of cases, sometimes you heard the other caller, they wanted
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 8: what Ron for grand or something.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 8: You know, they, they, a lot of these firms that
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 8: do these, do this type of work handed on a
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 8: mass basis. So if they have, 1,500 lawsuits at $ 5, 000
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 8: a pop, you know, they make it worthwhile for themselves.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 12: That makes it sound like a disabled person just walk around,
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 12: find all these bathrooms and.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 7: File a lot of lawsuits.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, if they want to take the time to do so. But,
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 8: I mean, most places, most restaurants, you know, everything's really
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 8: ADA compliant anymore. But, you know, they find these little,
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 8: some of these firms that do this type of work
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 8: find some sort of loophole and then they start sending
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 8: demand letters to small businesses.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your call. I mean, it's really something.
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's what kind of tarnishes the profession. Would
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: you not agree?
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, a lot of those things, you know, a
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 8: lot of the federal courts in these types of cases, they're,
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 8: you know, they have to follow the law, but they're
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 8: very skeptical of those types of cases because they know
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 8: it's happening on a mass basis.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: And there's so much involved in that because you could say,
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: in that particular guy's case, since he said he owned
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: the website.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 8: Under the statute, he's jointly liable. He can't contract away
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 8: liability for that. He can get indemnification from who's ever
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 8: leasing it from him, but he can't contract away of
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 8: ADA violation. He can't go into court and say, oh,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 8: I have a contract that says I'm not responsible if
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 8: there's any ADA violations. compliance problems. He's jointly responsible with
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 8: the lessee, so he has to write an indemnification.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you think, though, that the client could say, listen,
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 2: I hired this guy to take care of the website,
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: and he should have known all of that, and that's
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: what I paid him for?
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, that would be my defense. You're jointly liable
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 8: under the statute. That would be what a lot of
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  Speaker 8: people would say. And here's the thing. That's why you
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  Speaker 8: have to have a pretty good contract for these things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That would probably make a lot of people close their
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  Speaker 2: website down.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, close their website or a lot of these web
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  Speaker 8: developers to start rethinking their contracts when people reach out
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  Speaker 8: for them to build these websites.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Because in reality, you're relying upon a, you know, if
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 8: you're an auto parts store in that case, you're going
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  Speaker 8: to rely on a web developer to build your website.
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  Speaker 8: You know, a guy knows how to fix cars, not
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  Speaker 8: build a website.
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  Speaker 2: And host it. You've got to have somebody that hosts
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  Speaker 2: it and somebody that designs it. That's right. Based on
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  Speaker 2: what he said. I bet you 99% of them, like
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  Speaker 2: he said, don't do any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 8: I guarantee that if you looked at a lot of
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  Speaker 8: those contracts, there's going to be nothing in there about
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  Speaker 8: ADA compliance. And probably with the rise of this type
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 8: of lawsuit, a lot of these companies are going to start,
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  Speaker 8: you know, I'm not saying the major web developers, but
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 8: if you're a midsize or a small business, everybody's going
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 8: to start looking at their contract again.
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  Speaker 2: I never heard of any such things until his call
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  Speaker 2: came around.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I've heard of a lot of these types
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  Speaker 8: of cases, but this ADA website is the first time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, on a website. I mean, getting in and out
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: of a place or an elevator, I get that. But
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: you're on the air. Attorney Melfi's here.
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  Speaker 7: Hello.
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  Speaker 13: Hey, you're coming out.
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  Speaker 2: You're on the air. Hello.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 7: Not me.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on the air. It's you.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 7: No, I already have a question.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're on the air. Hello. Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, too.
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  Speaker 14: I have a quick question. I have a neighbor that
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 14: damaged my property back in November. How much time do
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 14: I have to try to get any recourse of damage
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 14: and stuff for her to pay this?
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  Speaker 8: Just out of curiosity, are you trying to sell your house?
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 13: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, I remember your call.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 14: I'm still having troubles.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 8: Did the criminal case get resolved?
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 14: Yeah. The criminal case was resolved. The prosecutor and her
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 14: lawyer went in the other room, and they said there
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 14: was no videotape by the policeman of her being arrested.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 14: and that she was on.
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  Speaker 20: An alleyway, which is true.
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  Speaker 14: We lost that sale of that house.
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  Speaker 8: Okay. Did they violate her on probation? Is she in jail,
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 8: or is she still your neighbor?
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 14: They just extended probation another year, and she's never gone
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 14: to it because the probation officer was on sick leave,
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 14: and now they have somebody. So just this past Friday
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  Speaker 14: when I was in court, She has never gone to that.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 14: And the judge reprimanded me that she's innocent until proven
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 14: guilty that I was there.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, we're good. It is a constitutional right. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, do you have the CPO? Do you have
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 8: the protective order against her? She can't be within 500 feet?
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 14: Yeah, well, wait a second.
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  Speaker 2: I'm running out of time.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 14: I have to be at the... I have to be
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 14: at the house and stuff there, and I don't live there.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 14: And the realtors don't want to call me when they
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 14: show it.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I'm running out of time. You want to
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: go on, but I don't have the time. Yeah.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 8: I mean, I would continue to follow up. The criminal
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 8: case is resolved. If you have the CPO, continue on
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 8: with it. But, Ron, David's going to be on the
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 8: news tomorrow talking about the executions. in the death penalty.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Jim. Appreciate it.
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