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X-Men '97: Woke As F**K · For All Nerds Show

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to be on. I'll tell you about it after these messages. The first
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message is X men ninety seven, that trailer drop that was exciting today,
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at least for me particularly. I know it was for you too, but
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especially for me. That was the reason why for me because that was my
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entry way into not necessarily comic books, but comics and learning about Marvel and
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these characters, like because I still didn't read a comic book until many years
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later, but this was my entry point. Fox kids, Yeah, and
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go ahead, go ahead, keep going. Okay as a child, where
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in hindsight, I was probably too young to be watching this shit, and
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you mentioned it today in Twitter. I realized how dramatical the dramatics were so
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high, like I've always known, like, realized that storm was dramatic.
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The winds of the east and the storms of the south come bless me.
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You know all that shit, right, Yes, but everything about it is
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a giant soap opera. And yes it's all derived from the comic book.
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But again, a young child that has nothing, has no idea about the
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comics or how these things work. You're just watching this like this is my
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soap. These are my stories as a kid, Those are my story.
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You know, you go in to grandma's room when she's watching stories, those
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are my stories. And it was listen that that low triangle that that's probably
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one of the most that's the first and most classical love triangle I've ever learned.
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Jean Gray, Scott Summers and bub himself for me. Yeah, yeah,
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there you go. I was a little older obviously when it dropped,
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and I remember, like I remember like you remember, well, not like
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you remember it, more like where it was, like I remember all that
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other stuff, like the Storm. I remember Wolverine the first time he showed
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up, like there was I don't think it's in the Pride of the X
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Men one, but there's like this pilot for it where he has an Australian
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accent instead of a Canadian accent. Yeah, it's hilarious out here. Yeah.
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Yeah. They fixed it later obviously, and you know, it's the
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classic one that you know in love and I remember all that stuff. But
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then I was like, yo, I gotta rewatch this because whenever I look
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at it on Disney Plus, I always look at some of the titles somebody.
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They did a lot of storylines. I'm like, yo, let me
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storyline. Yeah, and a lot of characters I don't remember introducing and stuff.
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So I was like, let me rewatch this. So I started on
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season one and one. They jumped so heavy. The X Men timeline from
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the comics is just all convoluted on here, Like they have saber Tooth at
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the mansion in like the first episode, Ben, it's worse in the in
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the cartoon at least when watch Kids times, it was worse. It was
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what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's even worse.
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But what I'm saying is like when you watch it in order, it's it's
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telling a cohesive story throughout it. But they don't go from like X Men
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one to x Men two hundred. It's like they might have a storyline from
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x Men two oh five when X Men one thirty seven is happening, because
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like the Dark Phoenix stuff, is x Men one thirty seven that happens in
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the season one? I think he's season two something like that, Like season
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two they get through mad Ship. They like Janosha is introduced in the first
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four episodes. I think, yeah, it's people. Yeah, and I
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didn't know that because you know Janosha in the comics. Trump's way after the
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Phoenix saga, well did yeah, well did by did? But you know,
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like I said, I have no contest as a child, so like
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I learned about Like that's how that's literally like when from my beginnings of learning
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about everything Marvel and next Me and all this other stuff, this is where
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my knowledge stemmed from, right, So, like you said, learning about
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Janosha, learning about the different philosophies between Magneto and Professor X. Again,
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the love triangle I mentioned, Cable Bishop, like all those sagas, the
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fucking as you said, the Dark Phoenix saga, like all of that stuff
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is sinister flamboyant in it? Huh is sinister flamboyant in it? I want
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to say, hold on, hold on, because all right, this is
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like Kieran Gillen really wrote sinister, and I think other people did, but
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he really wrote sinister now and he's turned him into the super flamboyant. I
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always worried about his clothes, his extra he was, Yes, he was,
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And that comes a little later, you know, in the with the
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comics. And that's why when I'm watching this cartoon, it's so interesting to
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me how much X mend lore is like kind of because of this cartoon.
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Right, Like in the comics, the whole love triangle between Wolverine Cyclops and
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Jean was kind of hinted that and Claremont later developed it, but it still
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wasn't like this big thing in this new man in the first episode. It's
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the thing it was arguing about constantly, constantly that like, like I was
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tweeting you today when that nig when Jane was like, Cyclops is waiting for
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me. Go see a movie and we'll bring it it sliced up by a
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saber toothing, so she was checking on him. She's like, Cyclopes is
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waiting for me. I am due, Jane. It was not for real.
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I mean, I learned very early on what a sip was. So
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hate on my man slim. Honestly, that's where my hate of Scott Summers
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stems from. And I'm at the keep watching and how much the sucker they
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make him, because so far he's been kind of gangster. He's been gagster
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in the field, but a sucker and he's a leader right in the field
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he's a leader, but everywhere else he's a simp. I never I know,
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but I never liked the man, and even to this day, I
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think that has biased my world view of him. It doesn't matter what version
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of him. I'm like, I don't like that nigga every time I see
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him because I just like he's a simp. And it's also just like when
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I especially as a kid, I was like, I rather Geen be with
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with Wolverine. But ye see, because I was a simp, you know,
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I wanted her to be with Stott, but Scott was soft. But
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but as a grown man, I liked Scott with Emma and I like Jean.
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I like what they're like. I like what they were doing in Coole
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where it was Jean Scott and movie is kind of just an open couple,
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a throuple. I kind of like that. That was interesting, you know,
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but I liked I like Stott Emma. That was that was an interesting
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relationship for me as a kid, it was Scott and Jean. Of course
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I was in love, you know, I was in love with Jean,
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So it was like, no, no, my man's logan. He was
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always the man from Jump, Yeah, and never the biggest Wolverene fan.
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He was my he was man some Jump. And then also that me watching
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that that also led to me watching things like the Iron Man cartoon and that's
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you know, that's what you said, like you said like he was like
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third stringer at the time, but like, you know, that was the
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one I knew. I knew who I am. It was I knew who
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Tony Tony was, and I knew about his alcoholism and all this other stuff.
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Cause what I'm saying, it's like shit from the nineties. They didn't
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care that you were like eight, Like they were just like, oh nah,
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They was like, you're gonna learn about alcoholism, You're gonn learn about
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people's problems, grow up with that. Next probably well, I don't know,
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I'm going he was down bad, Tony was down band in that cartoon,
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My nigga, you need to like it. And I told you,
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I likened it to watching such like gargoyls, dramatics. Everything was just us
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ever anything stories. You know, these are the kids again, you seven,
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eight, nine years old watching your stories and these are and to me,
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they're also like it's I'm saying the jokes about it being so serious,
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but also to me it was actually really good because it you can claim that
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they just assume that you would get it, you would learn, like you
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know how sometimes they infantilize children. And what I mean it like trying to
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say like even at eight years old, oh you don't understand what love,
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the concept of love, or the concept of hard concepts that yes they're adult
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concepts because you may not get the full breadth of it, but just to
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say that you understand the basics. A lot of times nowadays they dumb it
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down so much that they was like, oh, this kid is not going
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to understand it. And I feel like it's not necessarily fair. Kids are
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smarter than you think, and kids grasp and latch onto concepts much more than
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people know. So I kind of also like when you have this type of
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entertainment that just let you want to assume that you understood and if not,
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you're you just kind of learned about it. And they didn't say, oh,
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you too young for this. You just they just roll with it.
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And you can argue whether or not that was a good idea. But I
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learned a lot. I learned a lot of my relationships and random things.
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And and me, I would ask the questions too, to parents and stuff
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like that and older you know, siblings. Yeah. Well see, it's
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interesting because I had the same I mean same but different, right, because
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I remember I was exposed to the cartoon that fucked my head up as a
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kid with Robotech because we would have Robotech on. It would always be on
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on the weirdest hours everything, but you would catch it and you know,
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my man, Rick Hunter and what's my man's name, Roy Foker gets murdered,
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you know what I mean, gets murdered and he's an interracial relationship.
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His girl's black, and he dies and he's like the hero, you know
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man as a kid early early, so I had the same and then of
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course you know the options prime. Catching that hot one was another one for
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me where you know, my whole heart dropped my chest. Fam robots die
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every day? No, oh, Fam, no they don't. That was
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see, that was all right. That was the wild That was a wild
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difference because like that's men. You know, second episode More catches a hot
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one dunned off, so you're used to it. Transformers was like three seasons
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straight no one catches anything, No one, every damn day as no one
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catches anything. The movie comes out, nigga and ten niggas that you loved
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catch it in the first twenty minutes. The first time I seen the movie,
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I was late and I missed half of the niggas got murdered. I
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sat through the thing and watched it again, not knowing that these niggas were
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all dying, you know, in the beginning, and that's why I hadn't
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seen him in the movie. And then when I watched it again, I
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was like, you know what, ben, I mean that response is why
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Michael Bay kill Jazz because of you, of how you felt, let's kill
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somebody you like pop? It was it was way I mean, that was
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that was cool, but it was way man, It was nothing, my
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man. I think it's iron hide. He catches a shot to the chest
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and smoke comes out of his mouth. Nick, that's kind of harsh to
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see. The nigga's eyes turned red and smoke boars out the nigga's mouth,
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and he's like, nigga, sit down, and that's it. And this
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nigga's like, you know, the little art like this, you know,
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he said, or is Braun I think of broad and smoke comes out of
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his mouth or then the other niggas like crawling to Megatron's feet and trying to
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you know something, and he says something about like what a futile jester and
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then shoots the nigga in the face. See, I like Megatron, So
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all of the cartage. Megatron is start. Actually, when I was like
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I said, I started with Beast Wars, and when I was watching that,
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Starscream was my favorite. So like all the treacheroushit that was happening,
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I was like, yeah, like, have you seen the Transformers movie?
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No, okay, you need to watch it. At some point from when
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the animation holds up, the voice acted is incredible and the Nigga Straws Stream
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gets turned the dust. Huh yes, no, I screamed, Oh he
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does, but out and you're very scarred by all of this. No,
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I was so happy for that one that was. I screamed, of joy,
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Oh, this is hilarious. The nigga Starstream is getting coronated as the
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new king of the Decepticons, and Megatron, who's been turned to Galvtron,
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rolls up, you know, to the ceremony, flies up, transforms,
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lands in front of him and says, well, what it is this coronation?
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Spare me, spare me this mockery of a coronation or this mockery of
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something, and Starstreams, just like Megatron, is that you? Nigga says,
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here's a hint, turns into the gun and turns this nigga. Oh,
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he turns he galvtran you know is a cannon. Yeah, he transforms
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into a cannon. So he's like, here's a hint, transforms into the
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big can yeah, and shoots his Nigga starstream and startream turns to dust.
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Nigga, can you imagine like in the theater, you know what I mean?
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Andrea dies every I don't know, but see if this ar I used
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to none of that ship and it's is it Leonard Nimoy who's doing the voice
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at Galvatron? Yeah, like you know, it's amazing. Yeah, fucking
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what's his name? Orson Wells is Galvatron. It's like his last role.
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I mean, not Galvatron, a Unicron the big planet, Okay, but
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yeah, Leonard Nimoy is Galvatron and he's destroying it. Like here's a hint.
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It's fucking hilarious, nigga, Like you watch that on YouTube after after
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the you know, when we go to break baby, it's just common that
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here's a hint. Is like one of the funniest lines ever. Like Magga
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said, Magatron is that you here's a hint. Like, no, I
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don't think it's gonna hit, but it's not gonna hit the same way.
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I mean, I'm gonna laugh at everything. But I laughed Nigga. I
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cried, there's the funny ship. Ever, Nigga said, here's a hint
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and blows this nigga the dust and then stands up and it's like anyone else
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out anything to say, and they're like, what's his name again? Listen.
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That's why I say, you can question the the the strength, not
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even a straight you can question if it's right to I have children watch stuff
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like this, but it's also just like certain concepts I like, I just
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appreciate it. And maybe because I was also reading at a very high level
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of ways I was reading. I was reading Tava Butler and stuff like that.
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So watching stuff like that, I was just like, you know,
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it was it was just it was good for me. It was good for
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me, like ten, you know, twelve, it was all bad for
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me. But I'm saying that's really bad, but it was amazing, you
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know, come on all that to say we are excited. I know they
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a lot of the there's a lot of returning voice actors right from the original
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y Wolverine sounded different, though Side clapped something they got a new cat because
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everybody was hyped over here to me my X Men, But yeah, that
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he sounds a little different but close enough to original voice where I didn't really
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I didn't really detect anything wrong. I detected something off with Wolverine, And
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when I say off, I just mean off from my memory of what he
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sounded like. I've been watching it again, but I once because by the
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time this comes up, my watch the whole thing, so I'll have a
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different view of it. The animation difference for the immediately throwing me off,
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especially because I've just been watching an old one and it's a marked difference of
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improvement. And I have to get used to the new style because I'm used
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to the old style, and I like the old style, but I also
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like I like the new too, So we'll see. How do you feel
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about it being more mohawk Come baby, come on? This is like you
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want to talk about your childhood and you like, I was in love with
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Jean Gray, but when I saw mohawks Storm, it was like, oh
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see, my childhood is long hairstorm God, mohart storm is life. I'm
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used to flowing tresses. No, I'm used to silk pressed storms, Mohart
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Storm showing up and Kitty being all mad like a little bitch. Oh my
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god, Yeah, it's hilarious. Mohart Storm shows up and Kitty is all
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like, how could you do it? You know, like how could you
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cut your hand? I wonder if Jubilee is gonna be just as one and
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too, she's gonna be just as annoying because she was wild annoying to me.
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You know, she becomes a vampire in the comics at one point.
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Damn, that's fucked up. I want to know are they going to do
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crow up? Could they? Why is one of the few Asian X men
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turn into a vampire? No? No, I mean the main ones that
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I would see on a regular daily basis on the show. How they they
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turn her to a vampire? Well, she also has a child who eventually
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becomes a dragon. You know, if you want to there is you know,
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all right, life like life be life in the edge men turn into
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a vampire is pretty you know, low on the list. You can't be
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like, oh my god, they did the Asian handle wrong. They just
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take L's in the min family has died like several times now, equal opportunity.
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LS understand you know, I feel a little better. I guess her
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child was a dragon at one point. A pressure for everyone. They're mutants.
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It's a hard not life, you know. Play the song the base
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Richards. We have Pedro Pascal, our boy uh the Mandalorian. We also
23:21
have Vanessa Kirby who will be sus Storm. Vanessa Kirby, she plays one
23:26
of my favorite characters, Alana in Mission Impossible. I just like how she
23:30
moves in that. We also have we also have Joseph Quinn from Stranger Things.
23:33
He's gonna be Johnny Storm, Human Toyage young Robert Downey Jr. Yeah,
23:38
and this I love this cast thing. I was like, holy shit,
23:41
this makes so much sense. Evan or Evon Moss Backrock he is going
23:47
to be Ben Grimm, the Thing, cousin from Cousin from the Bear.
23:51
Like that does that not make the most fucking sense in the world. It's
23:55
funny because that's the thing, like whenever people say who would you cast,
23:57
I'm never the one to be like, oh, this person, that person.
24:00
But Marvel has great casting, and this is I'm like ninety percent all
24:04
the way with it. And yeah, I mean I love that nigga.
24:07
Like the Foks episode of The Bear is one of my favorite episodes of television
24:11
of all time. He's one of my favorite characters of all time. His
24:15
growth, Like I'm about tier just talking about him, like his growth and
24:18
his acting. He's also has a quick arc on the first season and and
24:23
Or, so that's I know, I've seen him in something else before all
24:26
this, but that's why I first started watching him. And his arc on
24:30
and Or is that of a bastard. So it took me a second to
24:33
even start liking him on Bear because he's so good as a bastard. Yeah
24:37
on Bear, But then he became like on BEARR he's one of my favorite
24:40
people ever. Yeah, exactly exactly. But I agree with you, they
24:44
just did extremely well. I mean, I'm happy about all the casting.
24:47
I think it works, but I'm really particularly happy about the thing. And
24:52
you know, I actually you know, back in the with the earlier two
24:55
thousands, like I like Michael Chickliss as the thing. I actually really I
25:00
like most of that cast. So did you like at the time before he
25:03
was Captain America you liked? Yes, I thought he was hilarious. He's
25:10
like the fire, It's like this but all over. Chris Evans was so
25:17
good. Yeah, Jordan, Oh, Chris Evans, No, no question,
25:19
And not that I don't like Michael Jordan. Chris He's like, it's
25:22
like this but all over. That line always lives in my head when he
25:26
did that ship, that ship is so good. Like you like Jessica Alba.
25:30
I didn't mind her, honestly, you know what I mean, Like
25:33
I didn't mind the movies in general. She wasn't the mass you know,
25:37
it's just an album. But you know, the blue eyes were throwing me
25:41
off. You know. I liked her about as much as I like Ian
25:45
Gruffled as mister Fantastic. And I'm looking I'm looking at the cast now and
25:48
then this is crazy for my people, my nigga from Nip Tuck, remember,
25:52
yeah, Julian, Yeah, yeah, I like him as doctor Dude.
25:57
Now, the one with Michael B. Jordan gets hated on so much.
26:02
But I actually thought that movie was really dope up until they get their
26:07
powers and then it's a hot mess. But like the way they showed them
26:11
is like this, they were younger, but they were still a family at
26:12
school and like how Doctor Doom was integrated with that crew at school was really
26:18
dope to me. And then they get their powers, it's a hot mess.
26:21
After that. That was Miles Teller's read. K assued Michael Bias Johnny
26:26
and then Jamie Bell as Bengram but what's his name? As ben Gram punk
26:30
kits Doctor Doom into the portal at the end of it. End. I
26:33
don't even remember this nigga. This nigga dropped kits this nigga Doctor Doom like
26:38
grabs him and like like punk him, like he him through. No but
26:42
dead ass, do not remember that film? I remember Chris Chris eppins one,
26:48
Michael chickles in them and nigga pumps him. Donk They did remember they
26:53
did two in a fit of one with Michael Chicklin's that's why you remember that?
26:56
Oh yeah, because they had the second with Lawrence fish Burn is Silver
27:00
Surfer. Oh funny fun fact, another old school fan brose fact. We
27:04
actually interviewed Michael Chickliss I missed that one too, We fucking did. Yeah,
27:11
I damn sure, are you When I'm doing these cool ass interviews,
27:14
you always did myself back there. So okay, but but yeah, so
27:18
so they released again, they released the cast. We're happy with it.
27:22
What what's going on with the phase now? Is everything going to be driving
27:26
towards this? I mean, we're also doing this whole thing with Deadpool.
27:30
The super Bowl spot came out, like yeah, okay, we can talk
27:34
about all that. There's a lot of interesting rumors, right. One of
27:37
the dead Pole trailer has which is leads into one of the rumors at the
27:41
end of the Deadpool trailer when wolver Ring walks up on him and it's about
27:45
and he's like, give me a hand, and he pops on him.
27:48
There is there's an issue. There's a comic book issue lying on the ground
27:52
next to Deadpool, and of course the Internet is already figured out what it
27:53
is. It's Secret Wars number five and that is from the most recent Secret
28:00
War series. All right, now, very quick and short, as short
28:03
as I can make this. There are two main Secret Wars comics series,
28:07
right, okay. The first one comes out sometime in the eighties and it's
28:11
the one of the first big crossovers ever from a comba book company and from
28:15
Marvel, it's definitely one of their first. So it's a twelve issue series
28:19
of where all these heroes and all these villains in issue one get transported from
28:26
Earth to this planet battle World, which is comprised of all these other different
28:30
planets, and this being the Beyonder who says, I come from Beyond.
28:36
If you kill all your enemies, I'll grant you any wish. And you
28:41
know, he just he shows that he has the power to do this by
28:42
creating this world bringing them all here. Boom. So they're all there,
28:47
Galatus is there, all these villains, all these heroes, Doom, the
28:51
X Men, Magneto, Captain America, some of the Avengers, all Fantastic
28:55
Four, Iron Man, all these cats. And it's basically a twelve issue
28:57
fight. You know, they fight for twelve ish shoes, a lot of
29:00
dope. Yeah, go ahead, what up? Continue. I was just
29:04
gonna say, how's this fight happening when you have like Galactus level of people,
29:10
because the Lattics is like, funk all that I know exactly how I'll
29:12
get rid of these niggas, I'll eat the planet. So he just so
29:15
he just goes to eating the planet. So he's like building the machines to
29:18
eat the planet. While these niggas building machine it's not an instant thing for
29:23
Galactus. It's never That's why I was like, how does that happen?
29:29
But yeah, but then it's it's a it's a it's a great series,
29:32
Like you know, it's you should anyone picking up you should pick it up.
29:34
It's a great series because all kinds of wild should happens, like Doom
29:38
steals the Lattis's power when he's trying to eat the planet and then gets goes
29:45
to fight the Beyonder and then eventually steals the Beyonders power, destroys all the
29:51
It's but it's dope, so that is probably not Yeah, but that's probably
29:55
not exactly what they're the one they're going to. So not the eighties one.
30:00
Yeah, I think they might integrate some of it, but are now
30:06
longer and shorter story. And there's a more recent one from the two thousands,
30:10
mainly written by Jonathan Hitman, you know, one of our faves over
30:12
here, and he did this long run where he was doing Fantastic Forward,
30:15
then he did Avengers and all this shit led up to his version of Secret
30:19
Wars. And his version of Secret Wars, different realities are crashing into each
30:25
other what they call incursions. They mentioned this in the Doctor Strange movie,
30:29
yes they did, yep. And so it's like these different realities of the
30:32
multiverse start crashing into each other instead of existing in their own space. And
30:37
so because of that, when one when they two crash into each other,
30:40
only one exists. So the Illuminati, who are like this secret organization of
30:45
people like Professor That's yeah, who we also saw in that same movie,
30:51
they get together and try and stop these incursions, for they're the first to
30:53
know about it. Eventually, you know, everyone finds out and it becomes
30:56
this war to save reality based with Doing them on one side, and the
31:03
Fantastic and read Richards. That's the whole battle. Like the whole thing amounts
31:07
to a philosophical debate between Red and Doing, which is why I think they'll
31:11
incorporate both of them, because this one gets more mind and philosophical, like
31:15
Reid says everything lives and Doom says everything dies. Like that's how it starts.
31:21
It starts with Doom saying everything dies, but that's not what it's.
31:25
You know, Reid says everything lives. You know, first, yes,
31:27
everything dies, but everything Yeah, And so that's the whole debate. That's
31:33
I don't know how they can put that on screen. They do some philosophicals,
31:37
I mean, they could do that in those series words itself is some
31:41
ship. Yeah. I think they'll. I think they'll have those lines.
31:44
But so anyway, with Deadpool and this cover from that series, which that
31:48
issue actually evolves the Molecule Man and doctor Doom, like that's one of the
31:52
and the Molecule Man is another big player in this whole thing. I'm not
31:56
even taking his playing time, that's playing him or any of that shit.
31:59
Just know the name. So Doom is on that cover, and so because
32:01
of that, people are saying the Doom might show up in Deadpool, there
32:05
might be some more hints to him or something, which leads to the other
32:07
rumor. Because of the whole reshuffling with Majors being out and it no longer
32:13
being the Kane Dynasty, people are the one rumor is that it might be
32:15
Avenger versus x Men, which would be a way to bring in the X
32:20
Men and have the X Men coming from another reality, which is happening in
32:24
the Marvels where they're fighting to save their reality. And then we might see
32:29
some of this in Deadpool because Deadpool is going through the Fox Universe and all
32:32
these other multiverses. So that might be why the TV is even recruiting him
32:37
to start the shit off that will eventually see come to Form and Secret Wars,
32:40
and then after Secret Wars, the whole thing is rebooted into one reality.
32:45
And the X Men have always been part of the MCU. Boom boom
32:47
boom, boom boom. So that's one rumor that's out there right now which
32:52
I think would be dope. Like if they announce Avenger versus X Men,
32:54
it's you know, the niggas is slipping tables, you know, the roof
32:59
is doing you know, you thought this Deadpool announcement was saving the MCU,
33:02
Like you said, I'm MCU Jesus like Avengers versus f mind, that's like
33:07
Marvels just come in and you know, oh my god, you know coming
33:09
with the steel chair, you know that's what like, yes, yeah,
33:14
that's a big dog move. Well, you know, I'm also thinking about
33:17
this whole thing because they still have not yet cast Doctor Doom. And interestingly,
33:23
yeah, Ben Metals Mendelson, who played t Tayloson, you know,
33:29
you know Tailos, the kun he got, he got unalive uh in Secret
33:34
Invasion. He says, quote he would almost give his eyes and teeth to
33:37
play that villain to be recast as doctor Doom. I don't see it happening.
33:43
I mean, you would be great, but you also you know,
33:49
yeah, and then it said John Carlo Esposito. He also said he hasn't
33:52
interested in playing that role. That would be insane. But but that's another
33:58
pusson. That's another one. I'm supposed the Eastern European and people are just
34:01
you know people. I mean, he doesn't have to be Eastern US,
34:04
but he doesn't. He could literally be anything else. Well, I mean
34:08
that's you know, part of him is running the country of Latin Area,
34:12
which is also a made up country. Yeah, he can be black in
34:15
Eastern Europe of a country like it doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying.
34:20
It's not like like is there some is there some like German ship that
34:22
he's doing all the time that he needs to be known as Germans. So
34:25
that's what I'm saying, like no, you know, like no, it's
34:30
some Austrian shit he's doing all the time, like that casting that old and
34:32
that you might have vuggled with you know, what's his name, Ben Mendelsohn.
34:36
But they're not going to redo it because he's already known as Kalos and
34:39
yeh, I don't yeah, I don't know. They're gonna go, as
34:42
you said, that old, but they aren't necessarily going to go young either,
34:45
like cast are Fantastic four, they're grown ass men and women. So
34:49
and that's the thing I was really hoping for my man from who's now in
34:53
Saltburn, my man from Euphoria, Oh, the old yeah, the one
34:58
that plays U guys, the one who yeah, the one who just hosted
35:01
s n L E Lordy Jacob e lord Yeah. I was really hoping for
35:07
him. But he's too young to be a you know, why is the
35:10
Lordy too young to be doing he'll be he'd be insane. But but he's
35:15
too young to be reads homie. You know, That's the thing. Read
35:19
and him were exposed to growing up together pretty much. They went to college
35:21
together, et cetera. Like that's you know, they're they've known each other
35:24
forever. That's the whole beata. Let me see this picture this but the
35:30
nigga that plays that's uh Joseph Quinn looks kind of don't look that look old
35:35
bro. What do you mean. No, no, not Johnny Storms,
35:37
Homie Read, Oh yeah, Pedro Pascal. Yeah they switch that maybe well
35:45
no, they no, that's their beef. Yeah, the beef is the
35:49
beef is always doomed thinking he's smarter than Read and Read just being reading.
35:53
Yeah, I'm the man, and you're an asshole. You know, that's
35:57
what it really is. You know, Reader is trying to asshole himself.
35:59
Well, then then it could be somebody. It just it has to be
36:01
someone in between. Yeah, someone who looks a little older. Yeah,
36:07
that's all. You know. When they were casting, I've been saying Jacob
36:09
for the longest, and I was hoping they were going to go a little
36:12
younger with the fant of the forecast. Yeah, well they figured all these
36:15
years they did younger cast. They said, fuck that, we're going in
36:16
the opposite direction. Like I mean, they've been doing older cast. So
36:20
Robert Downard Junior ancient you know, No, I'm talking about for Fantastic four,
36:22
all of our previous ones, generally speaking with the chickless and stuff,
36:27
like they were younger. I think, just a little older. That man
36:30
might have been thirty five. Facts. I love him, but he just
36:35
you know what I mean, certainly, you know he got more than Freeman
36:37
Fast, you know, like look, you know certain cats got it,
36:43
James almost you know a lot of cats, you know, you know over
36:46
in face since you're like twenty eight, all right, we gotta we gotta
36:50
figure that out. But okay, that's interesting too. About the rumors,
36:53
Yeah, they're definitely path They have several pathways. I guess the general point
36:58
is they have several pathways make this work. And they've already opened up so
37:00
many doors. Like yeah, and with fantastic story. I mean, Avengers
37:06
could be you know, I don't, I don't, I don't know Avengers
37:07
at this that's not really a story, but that you know, and then
37:10
you have Secret Wars. I mean, so Avengers versus X Men would be
37:15
a dope way to get you the Avengers, you know at Secret Wars Like
37:21
that would be you know, because that would start off the whole multiversal battle,
37:23
and then you have the big you know, then the X Men and
37:27
the Avengers come together for secret wars to battle whatever you know, do them
37:31
or whoever, and you know you got something there. I think that,
37:35
you know, I think that's only it just means that you have to cast
37:37
all these X men very soon, and I think push up the but they
37:42
seem to already be pushing up everything with fantastic forward, like well that's that
37:45
was already coming, but it's like now it's like coming, nigga, you
37:50
know. Okay. So yeah, on the other spectrum of Marvel Films or
37:55
really, Sony, we have your girl, Madam Webb, And unsurprisingly it
38:04
got some well not always scathing, but interesting reviews. I'll just read this
38:09
first one that says Madam Webb is one of the worst superhero movie in years
38:13
and enjoyable so had you in the first half type but they said the most
38:19
enjoyable and then interesting love Interestingly enough, shout out to Charles Pulliamore. He
38:27
wrote on The Verge. He wrote that it's like purposefully camp like he said,
38:32
like it's bad, and he just said it's bad, but it's also
38:35
personally camp like it hearkens back to. Because the film takes place in two
38:38
thousand and three, so harkens back to that time. And when you think
38:40
about it, the superhero films that came out in that time, they're known
38:44
as classics now, but in hindsight, when you compare it to the type
38:46
of storytelling you have now, they were not that good. But they're considered
38:51
cult classics, right. And they said that Madam Webb is the whole thing
38:55
tracks like it's trying to be a cult classic. Yeah, I think I'll
39:00
be honest show. I feel like there's been a lot of covering for the
39:05
Coda Johnson in the press for some reason, and it bugs me out because
39:09
I don't get it. And I've also read a lot of I've read whole
39:13
reviews where they basically this ain't it, you know, So I knew that.
39:17
Yeah, And I think you can't call things camp, you know,
39:21
they had to become camp, and you can't try and make things a cult
39:23
classic. They had to become a cult classic. Agree. And a lot
39:27
of those films from the two thousands just aren't good, Like Daredevil Electra there's
39:30
a lot of trash. It's not good, but because it has nostalgias factor,
39:35
people like oh those were the days, like and they meaning kind of
39:38
in a tongue of cheek ways, but they're also kind of serious. And
39:40
that's the only at least at least from a from a review standpoint, that's
39:45
the only saving grace this movie has had. But it has a fourteen percent
39:50
rating, a fourteen percent reviewer rating on gorotten to Mails, and like fifty
39:54
six percent audience, So I already knew. I mean, honestly, I
40:00
don't know how anyone saw the trailer and thought seriously and like like, it's
40:05
a very un serious trailer trailers, and for me, it just immediately gave
40:12
I am going to be a terrible movie for me. I don't know what
40:15
the rest of y'all saw, who thought, oh this could be good,
40:19
because it was giving me Morbius light and I don't want anything to be related
40:24
to morevious, So that little bit of relation alone was enough to put me
40:28
off. Like, I don't know about this one. What I have given
40:30
a chance, sure, but it's kind of like I told you, so,
40:35
I don't know. Yeah, No, I wouldn't have given this a
40:37
chance. No, I'm good, like I said, I've been. I've
40:42
been feeling this whole da Coda Johnson cover up for a minute, I'm not
40:45
getting it. She's gonna have to do better this. And I really don't
40:49
like when people do things like they do a movie and then afterwards they come
40:52
out to talk about how the script was changed so much from what they started
40:55
with, Like you knew this shit wasn't good. I don't do that and
40:59
don't and don't know the other creatives under the bus, you know, hold
41:02
that out. You saw this just didn't work out right? Your mortgage money,
41:07
Like yeah, don't don't do that. Don't do that. And that's
41:09
why that's why I've turned a really funny like whatever to this and these reviews
41:14
that are trying to be like no, it's you know, no, no,
41:16
no, call what it is. Fam y'all want, you know,
41:19
because people want as us and that's the other side of it, you know,
41:21
And I'm like, nah, man, y'all missed you. I would
41:24
like to venture see because like I talked about last week, I do love
41:28
I mean, I've never seen more of it's more than once than I dit
41:30
I will. But I did enjoy the venom joints, you know what I
41:32
mean? That was my isn't it I that's like as as good bad as
41:37
venom was like, I actually would mess with it, like if you gotta
41:39
watch this again, I'm like, all right, Like I wouldn't feel bad
41:42
about it. If someone said you gotta watch more vis again, I'd be
41:45
like, nigga, why so that's how I feel. But what I mean,
41:51
I watched. If I could see it for free, I watch it.
41:53
I'm not paying for it, hm hm him moving on to something that
42:02
I would pay for is a Dune two. Yeah, I wanted you to
42:06
hear you because it premiered and I went, I mean, you told me
42:09
over and over again, I gotta watch the first Dune is incredible, this
42:13
that and the third. Now Doom Tone Doom Toune Doom too is out.
42:19
And first of all, what part of the book or books is this based
42:22
on or is this some other shit? Like, give me some more understanding
42:25
of what done Tune is supposed to be about. I can't do, honestly,
42:29
because I'm not that big a book fan. I can tell you that
42:30
this is there are From what I do understand, I think the first two
42:36
or three books are written by the original author and then his son did the
42:39
one after that, so he gets a little off brand after that. But
42:43
what the story they are telling is the story of a trade's is Paul the
42:45
trades the and like I've talked about on the other episodes, he's a Messiah
42:51
type figure. But what I found very interesting in why I like the first
42:54
done so much, is it definitely hinted at the idea is that he is
42:59
a plant to Messiah and that his whole religion and everything that he's part of
43:04
is false. And so I want to see how they explore that more in
43:07
this one. And I just thought the first one was beautifully shot, you
43:10
know, the production, everything, all the acting, it gets, and
43:15
this is, like, dude, is a really great story that a lot
43:16
of other sci fi is based off or has taken stuff from. It's also
43:22
as people like LEXI talked about all our show, Alexi, Alexander, and
43:27
as you know, Diaz spoke about it also literally you know literally takes you
43:30
know, indigenous cultures and uses them. So that's why you know, it
43:35
got a lot of flavor as well. So I really did enjoy the first
43:38
one a lot more than I thought I would, Like, I'm about to
43:42
rewatch it before this well, before I can see the second one. Is
43:45
it like three hours? Yeah, it's solid, but it's one of them.
43:47
You know, it's an epic film. You know it deserves it's time,
43:51
like it's not time wasted and ship the shit is dope, not so
43:54
three hours not wasted. No, I loved it, like I'll watch it
43:58
again. I can't wait to see it, and I can't wait to see
43:59
this same when I like, I was not that hype about it, like
44:01
I was. I've never watched it. I've tried to watch the original doing
44:06
and you know, usually just fell asleep on it or whatever. It just
44:07
never held me. And knowing some of the bad story behind this, like
44:12
how they did shoot in certain countries but didn't hire people there, and so
44:15
I was kind of like, eh, fuck these dudes. But then you
44:19
know this on HBO Max, and I'm like, let me peep this because
44:21
everyone's talking about it. Chico Leo raves about it. A lot of people
44:24
rave about how great this film is. So I had to peep it in.
44:28
I was like, it's pretty solid, Damn. I enjoyed that.
44:31
Joe, Yeah, especially when his mom starts throwing him a fake massign and
44:37
all that shit. That shit was great. Always his own mom's well,
44:40
his mom is part of She doesn't call him that, but she's part of
44:45
the religion that's planted on this planet. And you know, she knows this,
44:52
the Geneveseret, and so she's you know, like, yeah, she's
44:54
complicit. It's a it's a very interesting story. Wow. Yeah, it's
45:00
a very intan story. That's crazy. Yeah, your own moms like,
45:05
yeah, roughly, it's a rough life, that's what I mean. Like
45:08
and it's that's what I say. It's very like. And I wasn't the
45:12
biggest Timothy Chalamette fan, but he's great in it. You know, he's
45:15
incredible. My girl doesn't get as much burned in the first one, but
45:20
I know she's all over the second one, and she's great and the little
45:22
time she does having it. His mom is fan fucking tastic. Oh my
45:27
god, that woman playing his mom is so good. And you know,
45:30
so many people in it. What's his name is really good in it.
45:34
Uh, Jason Momoa is really good in it. Than O's your man.
45:37
Thanos Brolin's up in there. You know, he's great. It's you know,
45:40
it's a the I mean, the set design, the production is incredible,
45:45
just beautiful ship costume, it looks amazing. I will say, but
45:52
the story and the add thing, everything else is right there with it,
45:54
and I can't wait to see the second one. So I love and she
46:00
build in that vintage muglair tonight so yesterday, so yeah, okay another,
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us as always, and you know, before we get out here, we
48:09
still got a little bit more to talk about. I really do want to
48:13
talk about this Invincible season two trailer. Yeah about that or season two second
48:22
half trailer, which I feel like they're gonna piss me off, all right,
48:28
they off? I feel it. As an avid comic reader of Invincible,
48:30
it's one of my favorite comments. Were talking about this all the time,
48:34
and I've even said this before I felt like that there is a logical
48:37
endpoint to the season with as much as we've seen so far, that while
48:42
I thought was logical and also a huge cliffinger, I think it'll piss people
48:45
off. And this trailer really hints at that moment. There at the very
48:52
end of the trailer, you hear in Invincible saying I'm sorry. And that's
48:58
a line from this s in the comic that I've referred to before. It
49:01
I'm not gonna spoil right now, but it's a line that he says,
49:05
is straight out of his mouth, I'm sorry. And there's another line that
49:07
follows that, and that is it's a huge cliffhanger. And even in the
49:14
comic it was devastating and you only had to wait a month to see what
49:15
happened to him. So if they do that at the end of the season
49:19
and we got to wear like six seven months, I hope they don't.
49:22
I'm hoping somehow. Do you think it's gonna be like years wait, like
49:25
we waited two and a half years. Yeah, no, I don't think
49:28
so. I don't think they'll do that. And one they're like, they
49:30
bought a studio in Japan, so they can crank out, stripe out.
49:34
Yeah, they're invincible, is you know, high priority now. So I
49:37
think the next season will be out by the end of this year the latest.
49:42
But I think that's still a long time to wait. Man, if
49:45
they do, but I think they're going to do, especially when there's I
49:49
like, I just hope they do that scene and then do the follow up
49:52
scene before the end, you know, like, don't do that, Like
49:55
yeah, I mean like Engstrom, Levy or Levy he who's coming back.
50:00
Yep, he's a big part of that. But I'm talking about Oh my
50:05
god, I already feel it, Like I just he was a big part
50:07
of that and that and like I said, him coming back and then that
50:10
I'm sorry line made me like yeah, so the secrets are back as well.
50:15
And in that quick scene you see them all over Adam, Eve and
50:17
another person and they say that lines we told you we were too powerful,
50:22
right, So that's a whole other thing. And I was like these niggas
50:25
again, like, well then we never really got rid of them in the
50:29
first place. I remember, because that was that one that's been here this
50:31
whole time. And that's the problem with there's one of them, Like when
50:35
you said, who is that talking? That's all of them talking talking,
50:37
unified mind, right, And that's the thing. If one of them,
50:40
if they get connected while they're with the Martians, they can't connect. But
50:45
once humans did next to them, they can connect. And once they can
50:47
connect, that's when they become a problem. Yeah, we saw what we
50:51
saw how like how where they came from, where they took over before.
50:53
Yeah, so there were a slave race before that. I mean they were,
50:57
they were powerful, and then Martians made them a slave race. But
50:59
they couldn't connect to them. And the Martians can transform. But when humans
51:02
they connect, and that's a rap and there it is, and so that
51:07
there, you know, And that's another one that's storrow. You know.
51:09
That's just like that's all he does is repurposed concepts, like that's you know,
51:14
the second the Sorrow. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
51:19
It's just I love this show so so so much, and it's just like
51:22
it's I already know, like I feel I'm already aggravated, like because I
51:27
just know, like like you said, they're gonna bring it to a point
51:30
where it's just like and we're gonna keep you holding you here for several months
51:35
on end, and you're just gonna have to deal with it. Yeah,
51:37
And in the age of like getting shit immediately, it's just like, ah,
51:42
yeah. I just hope next season is longer than this because it's a
51:47
lot to get through and I want them to get through this show. I
51:51
don't want them to rush through it. This is supposed to be the second
51:54
season. I think there's four more, like there were before. I think
51:57
it's eight total, right, I mean, because this is so this season
52:00
two. This is gonna debut March fourteenth, which is my brother's birthday.
52:05
But yeah, but how many episodes? Oh, I think that's my nephew's
52:09
birthday, Is it really yep? So what are you saying this that's coming
52:14
out? It's only four episodes. It's tramp in eight episodes, right,
52:17
Yeah, I think so, because it was four before. I think it's
52:20
eight. I would assume total. You mean, yes, God, so
52:24
we got four more. That's what I mean. With the amount of time,
52:28
like we were talking about, with the amount of real estate they have
52:30
left. The logical endpoint is this cliffhanger that they did in the book that
52:34
was the end of an issue, that was the end of a very big
52:37
moment and because of that, I feel like that would be the logical endpoint
52:39
right here. You know, that was one of his best cliffhangers. That's
52:45
like one of them cliffhangers, and the way they alluded to it in the
52:47
trailer just really makes me like, oh, they're doing that. You know
52:52
that. I'm sorry at the end of the trailer makes me like, that's
52:53
how you end the season? Yeah, and yes, there will be eight
52:58
episodes total. Sod you say, we saw that's only me it's only four
53:00
left. Yeah, right now is gonna lead to that point? You're there's
53:05
a lot that's gonna happen, Like you said, the sequids, there's a
53:07
lot of stuff with uh, his dad and the Phils, he's on trial
53:15
and all that ship. We get to see. There's a quick shot of
53:17
this dude on this bike shooting this ray gun. I can't remember his name,
53:22
but he's basically this space rider. You you're probably I think you're gonna
53:25
see the issue where Mark. I mean, that's not the issue, but
53:29
the episode where Mark reads his father's books, and because of that, you
53:32
get to see all these different alien characters and stuff that will show up later
53:36
on Space Racer. I think his name is. He's got a gun that
53:38
when he shoots it, the beam just teams going like it does you know,
53:43
it'll go through anything for beam shit yees on some straight Omega beam ship
53:47
like forever. Yeah. So he's an ill character who plays a big part
53:52
later. There's these monsters that show up that I think we'll get to see.
53:55
There's a lot that you're gonna yet to see. But then there's gonna
53:59
be a big But that's the thing Invincible is built. I mean, Kurtman.
54:02
One of his great strengths as a writer is his cliffhangers. So no
54:07
matter how the end the season, it's going to end on some what the
54:09
fuck I need in that season because he does that so many times. Like
54:14
there are so many issues of Invincible where I was like, damn near clutching
54:19
the issue in my hand after I finished it because I was so mad that
54:22
I didn't have a net that you have you go, Kirk mad, yo
54:24
know there not this one. There is something later on where I wanted to
54:30
kill I was so tight at the end of the year. I mean it's
54:34
it's it's like season three or four, you know, but I was disgusted
54:39
And then he fixed it into that's issue. So I was, you know,
54:42
good, but I was, oh my god, it was such a
54:45
so he does it, you know, And there's several other ones I can
54:47
point through where are like, ooh that was a great ending. Ooh ooh,
54:51
that could be an end of the season right there. You know.
54:52
So there's so many moments. Yeah, but I feel like I know where
54:58
they're headed to for this one, and it's going to break people's heart.
55:00
It's not. It should be one of the ones like Godden to be King,
55:05
it's to be like that. Yeah, there's definitely gonna be that.
55:08
God man. Yeah, it's definitely gonna be that. Motherfucker is gonna be
55:13
tight waiting for this hell boy. Okay, well, you know what,
55:17
it's a good series and I'm gonna be mad, but whatever, I'm gonna
55:20
keep watching. It is what it is. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm
55:22
all over. It doesn't matter what they Yeah. Its like with the book,
55:24
I was all over. I said I wouldn't. It's like with like
55:27
Kirtman is that good of a writer? When I was reading Walking There,
55:30
when I was reading Invincible, there were several times in both of those books
55:34
for I'm never reading another issue, Fuck this, dude, And then I
55:37
read them all to the end, walking there. I've I stemmed through like
55:40
the last ten or so issues. But you know, because it's too intriguing.
55:45
You can't just stop. Who cares about how you mad? You mad?
55:49
Who cares? Let's keep reading, let's keep watching, like, let's
55:52
get to where we need to get. Like, I mean, this is
55:54
no longer spoiler because we're way pasting in the show and in the but but
55:59
in the comics are walking dead? Uh, what's his name? What's Carl's
56:04
mom's name? I can't remember her name. She gets killed and it's horrible,
56:08
and she gets killed with the baby, like the baby gets killed.
56:14
Yeah, and so it's yeah, and she's not some evil woman like she
56:19
was in the show. They really played her character in the show, you
56:21
know, you really get to know her and understand why she was with Shane
56:24
and all that and all this ship. And so it's a devastating moment in
56:28
the comics, and I was like, oh, fuck this book, like
56:30
you just kill the baby, Like, fuck this book, you know what
56:32
I mean? But I kept reading, kept reading, and then when they
56:37
murdered Glenn in the book, I was like fuck this book. That was
56:39
pretty much it for me, though, I can't lie, and I was
56:42
just tired of the grossness and everything. And yeah, he got the thickest
56:46
plot armor you can ever imagine for a character in the show. And then
56:50
he and then he got murket still and that's when I was done with the
56:54
show again. Like I was like, all right, y'all, you know,
56:57
I was kind of done with the way he did not die, as
57:00
like Nick ain't no way, but that's notither here nor there, okay.
57:04
Yeah, and then also finally the Vince Staples show that dropped today, right,
57:09
yep, that dropped today. First of all, Vince Staples wins.
57:15
He can do no fucking wrong. The man is incredibly talented. He's fucking
57:19
hilarious so far, I mean so far. You know, hey, you're
57:22
right, so far as it stands, you know, February twenty twenty four,
57:30
he's he's he's good in my book. So you know, I fuck
57:34
with him. I fuck with his creative creations and things like that. And
57:37
you know, a lot of people have been starting to watch the show.
57:38
I know you started expectedly. People are like liking in it to like Atlanta
57:45
and Dave and things like that, and it does have that vibe. I
57:49
mean that's kind of obvious in their approach because it's like a lot of random
57:52
shit just happening. It's not like one, well maybe it's different here versus
57:57
one continuous story, but it seems like a lot of random things happening so
58:00
far as pretty random. There's I'm not even sure if there's an overall story
58:05
so far. Yeah, like is there, and that's fine, there is.
58:07
I just saying like that seems to be that vibe. Yeah. I've
58:09
only watched two episodes so far. They're both highly entertaining. Like you,
58:13
I'm a big Vince Staples fan. I think he's a great musician. I
58:15
think he's a great artist. Yeah, his music is great. I think
58:19
he's hilarious, you know, just in interviews everything he does, and I
58:23
loved him on Insecure. I think the show so far is great and I'm
58:30
obviously land on to me is one of the greatest shows of all time.
58:31
I'm not gonna put it on that level yet, but it's got potential.
58:36
It's great. After two episodes, I'm like Dave, I really enjoy Dave,
58:39
and Dave's another one where I'm like eh, Dave. You know,
58:43
Dave annoys me a little. Dickie annoys me more, you know, but
58:45
I still enjoy his show and I can't front on it. And in fact,
58:49
I want to make a point about this. There was a whole thing
58:52
last week where I saw about Power and I was like, I wouldn't want
58:54
to write on it because it's not something that really contributes to society. And
58:57
that's I want to make things clear. Like I would write on Power,
59:00
I wouldn't want to write on Power for other reasons, and that's mainly because
59:04
I enjoy it so much, but I would like to be in the writer's
59:07
room just to see how they do it, because I see Power is so
59:09
amazing how they just don't care. You know, No, it's all.
59:15
That's what I'm saying. I just wanted to make that clear. I didn't
59:17
when I was rewatching that video this week, I didn't like that or like
59:22
like I was dogging Power and that was like, and I'm the first,
59:25
Like me and Jenisha from h T with Queen and j we're talking about it
59:29
this week, like she was questioning something. I was like, don't question
59:31
the greatest show on television, Like this is the greatest show on television.
59:34
Do not quite like you mean both know you tuning in every week and it's
59:37
the fucking most entertaining thing you can ever see, especially Power raising Kanaan.
59:40
That is my joint. Like, I love that show. I think it's
59:45
utterly ridiculous, but I think it's utterly ridiculous in the way that that type
59:49
of show needs to be in the soap opera and you know, dramatical way
59:52
it goes without limit. So that's how I just wanted to make that clear
59:55
because I really felt like last week, you know, when I was rewatching
59:59
that video, I was like, I don't really this. I really did
1:00:00
not like how it came were off on that. Yeah, it made it
1:00:02
sound like where it's like, oh, I'm better than that type of thing.
1:00:06
No, say, it didn't sound like that. Yeah, And I
1:00:08
would never say that because one, I don't think anyone you know, I
1:00:10
think writing is I think writing is difficult, no matter what the type of
1:00:14
writing it is. I think it's all fucking it's insanely hard. And I
1:00:19
love Power And that's like that's when I was walking the video, I like,
1:00:22
I'm gonna have to take that down because I just really did not like
1:00:23
it. It was like, this is not what I you know, I
1:00:25
felt like no, because I fucking loved that show. You know. I
1:00:29
think Power the one with Tommy is annoying because it's it's the worst of them
1:00:31
all, and I'm mad at that. Like, but that's because I love
1:00:35
Tommy the character, and I'm like, y'all can do better, Like y'all
1:00:37
y' al should do better by this character. I really wanted to make that
1:00:40
clear. Okay, Well, I just appreciate it, and like you said,
1:00:45
you like what you saw when it came to the Vince Stable Show.
1:00:46
And and interestingly, like in an interview, they say, what were your
1:00:51
inspirations for your vision for the show, and he says, as a kid,
1:00:54
I remember watching the Annie Griffith Show and it had that absurd normality.
1:00:59
Then Twilight Zone, Kidding, Barry Cohen Brothers films, and David Lynch,
1:01:02
so all of that, all these he's he's distilled into his show. Apparently
1:01:08
I'm looking forward to watching cause, like I said, it just looked cool
1:01:12
and I'm a fan of his you know, I appreciate his work and the
1:01:15
things his output, so I definitely want to I definitely want to watch this,
1:01:19
that's wild. I never knew that about the Andy Grifforth Show, Like
1:01:22
Danie Grifforth Show used to be honest a kid, and it was so old
1:01:23
to me that I was like, I ain't watching this bullshit, you know.
1:01:25
So I never I've never known it had that hyper reality because the first
1:01:30
type of thing that I knew like that was it's an old show too,
1:01:34
was The Wild Wild West, the one that Will Smith remade. This movie
1:01:39
like that ship was way before my time, but they would have re runs
1:01:42
on when I was a kid, and you I'll never forget this. Yeah,
1:01:46
it's an old show. And it was a like just like how the
1:01:50
movie was in the West, but had like science fiction steampunk type is.
1:01:52
Yeah, the show had all that too, So but I didn't know that,
1:01:57
you know. So it's like one day I'm watching this show and it's
1:01:58
like I'm watching this Western, I think. And then these dudes smoked these
1:02:02
on like they literally rolled up like woolly blunts. Like they rolled up.
1:02:07
It looked like cocaine, you know, and they had and they had the
1:02:10
tobacco leaves hanging and they rolled them joints up smoked it. And these niggas
1:02:15
shrank or some ship. It was like some went on and so I'm a
1:02:21
kid watching this and I'm like, what the fun you know what it's this?
1:02:23
You know, I couldn't comprehend the Western where nigga suddenly started shrinking and
1:02:28
stuff, and you know, and I might have been sick home from scrool,
1:02:31
so I'm sick laying a bed watching this stuff, like what you know,
1:02:36
your mind's all addled on robotuta and ship and I'm like, oh,
1:02:38
it is going on. So that was like I didn't know that the Andy
1:02:43
Griffith did that, but I definitely know that obviously, Twilight Zone, the
1:02:46
Cohen Brothers, the other uh, David Lynch, you know all those Like
1:02:52
that's big inspirations for me as well. That's all do you shopady? Oh
1:02:57
yeah, but that's Atlanta, that's the thing. That's what It's funny.
1:03:00
What what did he first? Uh? I want to say that he called
1:03:05
it X Files with Rappers is what it was. Either ed Father rappers or
1:03:10
Twilight Zone of Rappers or something like that. That's what he described it as.
1:03:14
So all, yeah, all these things are inspiring the same type of
1:03:17
people, and it was just you don't get to see black people do this
1:03:21
type of stuff. This type of stuff has been with Yes, and I
1:03:24
love this and and you know what, I'm also really glad to hear that
1:03:28
after only two episodes, you're just like immediate, yes, you know,
1:03:31
usually it takes a while again and we don't have the time, so nouse,
1:03:37
especially on Netflix. Like I like that joint, the one with watching
1:03:42
him from everything everywhere all at once. Michelle Yeah, Michelle yo, and
1:03:46
it's her two sons. Yeah, And and I like that. I heard
1:03:50
his ends not well, but it was like you said, it ain't a
1:03:52
lot of time in this world. And I watched a few episodes and I
1:03:54
was like, eh, I might go back to that one day, but
1:03:58
I died it. There's just too much theah, there's just too much stuff
1:04:00
out there. If y'all like it, y'all like it. Shout out to
1:04:02
Toby Wan. He finished it and he said, it's you know cool,
1:04:05
My man Joe finished it. He liked it. He said it got better
1:04:08
actually, but it didn't hold me where like no Vince Stables. I'm definitely
1:04:12
going back and finishing the season. There's no like. Yeah, I watched
1:04:14
the first two and I'm like, oh, yeah, you know how many
1:04:15
episodes in? Then? No, I don't even know. I didn't even
1:04:17
check because I didn't want to be, you know, mad when it was
1:04:19
over. Don't tell you. Yeah, because I'm enjoying it, Like I'm
1:04:24
really enjoying it so far. Like Rick Cross showed up in the first episode.
1:04:27
Alsold oh that's the second. He showed up in the second. Thanks,
1:04:30
thanks, man, Come on, man, you've seen that in the
1:04:32
trailer. He's in the trailer. Maybe I didn't remember. Maybe I wanted
1:04:36
to be a surprised well Rick Cross boss