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Huddle Up | Bucky on Jags Showing Fight, Previews Jets Matchup · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields
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  Speaker 1: Huttle Group. Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst
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  Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P.
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  Speaker 1: Shatdrick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks in his Wednesday
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  Speaker 3: of week fifteen, December eleventh, and we've got plenty to
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  Speaker 3: get to as the Jaguars prepared for the New York
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  Speaker 3: Jets this week at the Bank, we'll have our last
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  Speaker 3: look at the Jaguars win in Nashville last week in
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  Speaker 3: Week fourteen, ten to six, a win as a win,
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  Speaker 3: We'll take our first look at the Jets. They have
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  Speaker 3: the identical record of three and ten. We'll have a
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  Speaker 3: little discussion about winning now versus draft position. We know
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  Speaker 3: what a lot of the fans want, we know what
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  Speaker 3: the players and coaches in the building want.
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  Speaker 2: That's all coming up. Huddle Up with.
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  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks is brought to you by Fields Auto Group, Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 3: a Fields Auto dot Com JP Shadrick John Osier from
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  Speaker 3: the Hundai studios at the Miller of Electric Center, and
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  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks is out in Los Angeles and he is
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  Speaker 3: standing by the phone. I'm sure for a call from
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  Speaker 3: Chapel Hill, right, Bucky.
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  Speaker 4: I am.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sitting here waiting to see if Bill Belichick is
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  Speaker 5: going to take the Carolina job. According to the latest reports,
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  Speaker 5: the ball is in his court, so we're gonna see.
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  Speaker 6: If he's gone pass, dribble or shoot.
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  Speaker 2: See what he does with Bucky Brooks GM of the
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  Speaker 2: Tar Heels.
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  Speaker 6: I could see that, right, I mean, I know if
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  Speaker 6: I could go so far.
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  Speaker 5: Say that, but I think it would be a compelling
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  Speaker 5: storyline to see a university that moved on from a
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  Speaker 5: coach Mack Brown because they felt like he was too
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  Speaker 5: old to only hire.
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  Speaker 6: Someone who is only one year younger. And Bill Belich.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't they have this setup, John, I remember a few
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  Speaker 3: years in Arizona State had this set up. Herman Edwards
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  Speaker 3: had a GM out there and like they won some games,
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  Speaker 3: they never lost to Arizona, but then they recruited in
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  Speaker 3: a dead period after during COVID, and that got him
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  Speaker 3: in hot water with the NCAA and then they were out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Belichick's things is pretty fascinating. A
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  Speaker 4: lot of my media cohorts sort of laugh at it.
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  Speaker 4: I think it would work. I don't know why, I
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  Speaker 4: said a feeling.
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  Speaker 5: Well, okay, because like here's the thing, and JP knows
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  Speaker 5: as being a row tie guy, Like my thing is this, Like,
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  Speaker 5: so what you're banking on is like it's the blueprint
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  Speaker 5: that Alabama used and that George is using and that
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  Speaker 5: Oregon is using and everyone.
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  Speaker 6: Else is using it to have success. But can you
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  Speaker 6: do it and get the players?
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  Speaker 5: Like and what he's done and watching him on Pat McAfee,
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  Speaker 5: he talked about kind of pushing the envelope a little
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  Speaker 5: bit where you have a staff of all coaches that
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  Speaker 5: just coached the product on the field, and a staff
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  Speaker 5: of recruiters who spend most of their time recruiting and
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  Speaker 5: doing those things so the coaches don't have to recruit
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  Speaker 5: and that, and so it's just intriguing to see if
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  Speaker 5: someone who is known to push the envelope and known
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  Speaker 5: to think outside of the box, to see what he
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  Speaker 5: would do to kind of disrupt the college football landscape.
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  Speaker 5: And it brings a little more attention to my University.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be mad at it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it would work because you know, everybody
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  Speaker 4: considers Bill this like do players want to play for
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  Speaker 4: guy who's gonna yell him all the time. He's not
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  Speaker 4: that big of yeller. I mean, you know, he from
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  Speaker 4: what I've understood about him, from as far as that
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  Speaker 4: he relates to players really well. He likes players, meaning
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  Speaker 4: likes star players. Is a smart guy put in the
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  Speaker 4: right position, so he certainly has the name recognition. Players
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  Speaker 4: know who he is. And you're trying to get guys
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  Speaker 4: who think they're going to the NFL, and the perception
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  Speaker 4: would be he could get him there. So it's outside
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  Speaker 4: the box. But I don't think it's that ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And in theory, obviously you know this, buddy, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the UNC has has donation money to spend and would
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  Speaker 3: probably we have a whole lot more if they were
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  Speaker 3: this would be the case.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because look, people in leon'side say that those are
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  Speaker 5: the people that are driving it, the board of trustees
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  Speaker 5: are driving it.
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  Speaker 6: Those are the guys that typically have.
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  Speaker 5: The money or they know where the money is, and
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  Speaker 5: so if they are behind it, then yeah, they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: give him every opportunity to succeed. To me, what we
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  Speaker 5: can't deny is he's a really good coach. And people
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  Speaker 5: talk about, oh, he hasn't won with Tom Brady whatever,
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  Speaker 5: but there are a lot of coaches who every won
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  Speaker 5: with great quarterbacks and run to the level that he
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  Speaker 5: won when he had a great quarterback. For me, I
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  Speaker 5: would just like to see a better on field product
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  Speaker 5: in terms of the football and what I think about
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  Speaker 5: the New England Patriots and how well coached they've been
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  Speaker 5: and how they've had elite talent, how they've been.
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  Speaker 6: Able to win when they haven't had the lead talent.
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  Speaker 5: To me, I'm just more fascinated to see what he
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  Speaker 5: would do with a developmental program to see if he
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  Speaker 5: can maximize it with or without Nio being a major
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  Speaker 5: factor in his process.
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  Speaker 3: So that's happening in Chapel Hill. Bucky Brooks is standing by.
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  Speaker 3: We're putting the signal out there. Hey, Bucky would except
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  Speaker 3: the phone call. That's all I'm saying. He's not saying it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying it. It's a possibility. Jaguars over the Titans
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  Speaker 3: last week our final look at a ten to six victory.
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  Speaker 3: They needed it, man, They needed it in the worst
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  Speaker 3: way down in that locker room after losing five in
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  Speaker 3: a row.
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  Speaker 2: The defense held their own throughout.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got off the field on fourth downs in
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  Speaker 3: the red zone a couple of times. The offense was
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  Speaker 3: awful in the first half, Bucky, but when it mattered
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  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, they finally moved to football. They
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  Speaker 3: started throwing to Brian Thomas. That helped in the second
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  Speaker 3: half and ran the football better in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, win's a win. So you know what stands
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  Speaker 3: out the most about WHYAT got over the finish line
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  Speaker 3: last week.
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  Speaker 5: Let me say this because I was very candid during
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  Speaker 5: pregame where we talked about I was worried about the
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  Speaker 5: energy from the unit because they won't a lot of
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  Speaker 5: guys that had a lot of buzz and then pepping
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  Speaker 5: this step during pre game. But I'm gonna say this,
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  Speaker 5: once the game got going, you saw our pride fortea,
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  Speaker 5: and you saw a bunch of guys that really wanted
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  Speaker 5: to win. And the reaction that you saw from the
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  Speaker 5: team after the game, to me, says a lot about
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  Speaker 5: the team one. The football character to me was maybe
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  Speaker 5: better than people anticipated. They're not ready to pack it
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  Speaker 5: in they're not already making plans to go to Cancun. Two,
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  Speaker 5: Doug Peterson still has the ear and the pulse of
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  Speaker 5: the team, based on the interactions in the locker room.
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  Speaker 5: Whenever you lose, you lose a bit of confidence and
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  Speaker 5: maybe you lose a little belief. But for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 5: this team doesn't appear to have lost belief in their coach,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that's very telling. And then the final
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  Speaker 5: thing is as much as we can talk about and
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  Speaker 5: speculate draft position in which player or whatever, I think
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  Speaker 5: for everyone around the program, it is just something about
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  Speaker 5: winning that you're addicted to, and I think that part
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  Speaker 5: came back in I would anticipate a better effort from
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  Speaker 5: the team this week in practice, I would anticipate more
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  Speaker 5: energy from the team heading into the game. And to me,
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  Speaker 5: that is significant because with nothing to play for, with
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  Speaker 5: five games, the Jaguars show it up. And that's a
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  Speaker 5: testament to the job that Doug Peterson and but more
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  Speaker 5: importantly to the players.
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  Speaker 6: Showing up and being willing to play.
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  Speaker 4: Is the only place guys go in the off season.
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  Speaker 2: Cancuon apparently, I mean, yeah, well, I mean there's so
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  Speaker 2: many different flights.
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  Speaker 5: I mean like, there's so many different places you can
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  Speaker 5: go to apply deale carmon. You can go and hang
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  Speaker 5: out to some of these all inclusive resource and lay
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  Speaker 5: back and kick up and I know on these goes
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  Speaker 5: like you can go to the Caribbean. But hey, man,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know for the for the buck, more bang
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  Speaker 5: for the buck somewhere around can Coon is still a
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  Speaker 5: nice deal of their jail.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I usually just get up Ferdina.
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  Speaker 3: Yeahl Island, no airfare required.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I the Senate in me after that game thought, okay,
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  Speaker 4: they they gave effort. They did give effort. There was
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  Speaker 4: also an element of the Titans not being very good
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  Speaker 4: allowed them to sort of not play very well in
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  Speaker 4: the Jaguars for three quarters and then get back into it.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll say that for the purpose of just making
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  Speaker 4: sure that we keep the victory in perspective, it was
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  Speaker 4: over a struggling Tennessee team and saying that that was
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  Speaker 4: my feeling walking downstairs after the game, and then when
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  Speaker 4: I got into the locker room, I sort of corrected myself,
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  Speaker 4: meaning these guys have worked hard, they do care, they
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  Speaker 4: are still playing. Talking to Tank Bigsby afterward, he was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I've forgotten the feeling of what it was like to win,
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  Speaker 4: and it did sort of reset me of you know what,
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  Speaker 4: these guys are going to try to win, they want
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  Speaker 4: to win. Good for them for winning. And I do
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  Speaker 4: think there's something too what Bucky said. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: would like to see the last four or five games
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  Speaker 4: them playing young guys. If they win a couple JP
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  Speaker 4: and you feel like the core the future is contributing
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  Speaker 4: to that, then I think winning in these last four
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  Speaker 4: or five games matters very much. If you feel like
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  Speaker 4: they're playing a lot of guys who aren't gonna be here,
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  Speaker 4: then you sort of wonder of, okay, well blah, right.
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  Speaker 4: But if it's BTJ and Tank, Bigsby and jar and Jones,
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  Speaker 4: which was the other day to me, Bucky Jarion Jones
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  Speaker 4: having a huge fourth quarter and mattering making winning plays,
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  Speaker 4: I do think that sort of thing matters in week
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  Speaker 4: two next year. If he's done that now, how much
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  Speaker 4: can he grow from that? I think there's a huge
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  Speaker 4: element of that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, So let's also have a real conversation because I
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  Speaker 5: thought it was telling in a postgame, and I don't
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure JP heard this, but Doug Peterson talked about
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  Speaker 5: getting everyone to play because everyone's playing for their job.
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  Speaker 5: And he not only like he was very candid and
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  Speaker 5: talking about the players are playing for their jobs.
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  Speaker 6: But he said, hey, I'm coaching for my job. And
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  Speaker 6: to me one, I thought it's very real to.
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  Speaker 5: Have the head coach kind of show some fight, because
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  Speaker 5: for a while that you just didn't know where he
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  Speaker 5: felt with that right. He never came out forcefully and
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  Speaker 5: talked about I'm the guy for the job or any
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  Speaker 5: of those things. And so for him to have that
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  Speaker 5: awareness and put that out there, I thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 5: The other part of it is in postgame he talked
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  Speaker 5: to me about going to the coordinators and being like
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  Speaker 5: players over plays. Give the ball to the best players,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what sparked the offense.
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  Speaker 6: And when you look at the fourth quarter, who touched.
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  Speaker 5: The ball, primarily it was Tank Bigsby, it was Brian
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  Speaker 5: Thomas Junior, and it was Evan Ingram. And then on
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  Speaker 5: defense you saw the young playmaker Jerry and Jones. And
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  Speaker 5: so maybe a little light bulb went off like if
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  Speaker 5: I'm a dude this, I'm gonna do this with the
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  Speaker 5: young players, and I'm gonna play the young guys and
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  Speaker 5: give them an opportunity to change our fate and law
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  Speaker 5: and behold, they won a game. Now they got to
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  Speaker 5: figure out if they can do it again this week
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  Speaker 5: against the Jets. But it is interesting to see the
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  Speaker 5: more the ball went to the young guys.
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  Speaker 6: The better the offense played.
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  Speaker 5: And if it continues trended that way, then what does
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  Speaker 5: it mean at the end of the season when you're
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  Speaker 5: making these hard decisions that you may have to make.
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, let's come back and we'll get into
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  Speaker 3: the New York Jets this week. Aaron Rodgers, future Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Famer, standing by John Osier also has a football
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  Speaker 3: in hand. He's ready to wing it around the yard
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. Also today, it's every Wednesday.
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  Speaker 6: With this guy.
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  Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead.
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  Speaker 3: We heard you, loud and clear, Jags fans, and we're
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  Speaker 3: taking it back to the nineties again. The Prower throwback
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  Speaker 3: jerseys will return to the field this Sunday when the
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  Speaker 3: Jags take on the Jets. Lock in your seats Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: It's huddle up with Bucky Brothers.
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  Speaker 6: Still hair, I mean it could be it can be.
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  Speaker 7: Highly efficient, highly effective. Still can throw, you know, accurate footballs,
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  Speaker 7: quick release. You know, it probably doesn't move quite as
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  Speaker 7: well as he wants he once did, but listen, he's
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  Speaker 7: still an elite quarterback. And you know that's something you
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  Speaker 7: got to put there for, is Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 3: That's Peterson discussing Aaron Rodgers fucking back. Gets suddle up
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers has been to a few Pro Bowls in
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  Speaker 3: his career at twenty years now in the NFL. Bucky
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  Speaker 3: and obviously the things in New York have not gone
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  Speaker 3: as anyone there anticipated with the Achilles injury last season.
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  Speaker 3: This is the entire year this year, the head coaches fired,
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  Speaker 3: they haven't played well, They're three and ten. Where where
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  Speaker 3: are you with Aaron Rodgers now in year number two
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  Speaker 3: and beyond Buckie?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think it's coming to an end
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  Speaker 5: obviously is very disappointing for the New York Jets, given
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  Speaker 5: the high hopes and the big expectations they have when
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  Speaker 5: they signed Aaron Rodgers two years ago. He has a
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  Speaker 5: shortened season, but I think it was four plays and
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  Speaker 5: he's done, and.
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  Speaker 6: Then you have this year where he hasn't been very good.
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  Speaker 6: I think this is it.
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  Speaker 5: I can't imagine the New York justs bringing him back
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  Speaker 5: and wanting to continue to kind of ride this train
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  Speaker 5: when look, he's on the backside twilight of his career
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  Speaker 5: and I don't know what the future holds for him
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  Speaker 5: in New York.
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  Speaker 6: I think this has to be like the Swan Song.
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  Speaker 5: So we get a chance to see a Hall of
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  Speaker 5: Fame player playing probably one of the final few games
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  Speaker 5: of his career. But what you hope that the Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: can send him into retirement in terms of, like continue
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  Speaker 5: to show them they're not going to the postseason.
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  Speaker 6: He has a bad game, and maybe they move on
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  Speaker 6: from him. At the end of our game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's playing better the last couple of weeks, which
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  Speaker 4: sounds kind of funny. Sant avadon Rodgers, like he's making progress.
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  Speaker 2: Right there, but.
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  Speaker 4: He's playing well enough and they have enough talent that
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  Speaker 4: you know they're always dangers. This is not a team.
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  Speaker 4: There's some things like when Carolina came in here last year,
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  Speaker 4: he sort of knew that if you played defense a
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  Speaker 4: certain way, they weren't going to have enough to get you.
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  Speaker 4: The Jets have enough to get you, and they're good defensively,
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  Speaker 4: So pressuring Aaron Rodgers part of the deal. Earlier this season,
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  Speaker 4: he was getting pressured a lot. He was getting blitzed
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  Speaker 4: a lot. He's getting hit a lot, and they're how
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  Speaker 4: old and how great you are. It's always tougher to
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  Speaker 4: play quarterback when you're getting hit. So Trayvon and Josh r.
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  Speaker 3: Key awtome against the Vikings and the Vikings BUCkies. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's one of the highest blitz rate teams in the league.
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  Speaker 3: And he threw three picks in that game in London.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah he did.
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  Speaker 5: And you know the thing about it, He's had more
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  Speaker 5: turnovers and more interceptions than we're used to seeing from
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  Speaker 5: a guy that's a four time MVP.
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  Speaker 6: And John is right about the players that they had.
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  Speaker 5: Gary Wilson is legit, DeVante Adams Steele can hurt you,
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  Speaker 5: and they have some other in the backfield that you
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  Speaker 5: have to ca for and.
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  Speaker 6: Breeze Hall and Brayden Allen and those guys.
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  Speaker 5: So this is a good team from a personnel standpoint,
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  Speaker 5: they just haven't played very well. And so for the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 5: it's about making sure they don't get into an early rhythm,
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  Speaker 5: that the quarterback feels the pressure, that you heat them
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  Speaker 5: up a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: But you got to be selective in terms of how
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  Speaker 6: you do it. Very challenging game.
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  Speaker 5: Because the record will say, hey man, this is one
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  Speaker 5: of the Jaguars. You win, but you still got to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that you prepare and have the right plan
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  Speaker 5: to deal with what is a very talented offense.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're almost the same team in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they both had high expectations coming in. They
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  Speaker 4: both you know, I still sort of wonder they fired solid,
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  Speaker 4: like five games in, you know, they were two and
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  Speaker 4: three or two and four, not out of it at all.
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  Speaker 4: I want to say panicked, but you know, firing five
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  Speaker 4: six games in in a seventeen game season, any chance
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  Speaker 4: they had to sort of get right seemed like it's
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  Speaker 4: sort of it's hard to do that in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Fire a head coach and then get it going, and
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  Speaker 4: I know it happens.
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  Speaker 2: You might have like one or two games and then
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: in the long run it's tough.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: But they've had seven losses six points or less. Jacks
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: had seven losses five points or less. So both of
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: these teams believe that they've been close. The thing you
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: wonder is with the Jets, when you've got an interim
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: head coach who nine times at ten they don't get
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: the head job. Are they just sort of fragmented playing
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: for themselves at this point when the Jaguars looked like
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: they were sort of playing as one last week, maybe
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: that'll be an edge for the Jacks.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It would be nice to see.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: It would be nice, and you do wanted that, Like
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: for the Jets the loss to the Miami Dolphins.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: They jumped out on the Dolphins and allowed them to
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: come back.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: And what I was worried about when I was scoreboard
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: watching during the game the Titans game, I was like,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: oh man, the last thing you want is the just
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: coming to this thing, playing pretty well, coming off of
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: high of winning the game. Maybe they collapse at the end,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Maybe they kind of knocks the win out of the
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Sails and they don't come with the same vigor. That's
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: the wishful thinking. But certainly their teams dangerous to Jaguars.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: They're gonna have to score more than ten points to
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: win the game. So I mean, defensively, it's a tough challenge,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: but obviously they gotta find a way to score.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Well something you're supposed to say every week, you know.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of that's kind of how it works. And
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: you know what, we'll come back and dig into that
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: a little bit. You know who likes to see the
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Jets coming? Mac Jones. Mac Jones has a lot of
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: success against the New York Jets in his career.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that and much more ahead.
• 17:41
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• 17:51
  Speaker 8: Brooks, Williams, Javon Kinlaw, Sauce Gardner.
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, just the list goes on. I mean, this
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: is this is not a three and ten defense. I'll
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: tell you that this is a really good defense, and
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: you know, the pieces have been brought in to to.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: You know, do just that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: You know and look it's you know, they're in the
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: same situation we are. You know, I think they have
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: seven losses as well. They are one score games, you know,
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: and won this past weekend. So you know they're they're
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: they're doing and saying the same things we are and
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: looking to win a game.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, Coach Duck Peterson on the Jets defense earlier today,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: welcome back.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks and ladies.
• 18:47
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• 18:50
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• 18:53
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• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Can you tell? Come on, John, you try to say it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Who doesn't love a pastry?
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. Bucky does not probably eat many
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of those.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Not many, But I do like a patry, Like if
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: you if I had to fat to share something dirt
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: little sickret Your boy loves a donut, and uh, there
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: are a few different donuts spots that I might frequent
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: and do ball when I'm there. But yeah, I'm I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: a donut guy. So pastry donuts, pies, cakes, I'm four.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: The list is getting longer than I thought of it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: That donuts in the high end hotels that we put
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: it Bucky Brooks up in.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So that's right. Yeah, they may not have it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: They may not have it in the high end hotel,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: but you know, your boys sniff around the neighborhood a
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: little bit.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: That makes sure I find one.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: He'll order a donut and room service and doesn't mind
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: putting on the team.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Of course not.
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: I'm not a part of it. I'm not really a
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: rule service guy. I don't really like them. He's a
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: man going to get out about like I like to
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: get I like to get out in the bout seat.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: The people kind of hang out to see what the
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: vibe and the energy is, particularly because the college football
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Saturday kind of see what you know, people down there
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: in the SEC and thebais you know, kind of see
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: different level ball here. Some of the arguments and that
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: kind of stuff.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: You know, see that I'm.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Aware the Jets are a top five defense. You heard
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson there, They're not a three and ten defense. Here,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: the fourth ranked defense in the NFL. They're sixteenth against
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: the run, they're fourth against the pass. They give up
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: some points though unfortunately their offense hasn't done much to
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: help him out. And he lists a few of the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: names there. But you know what we were going into it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: You know who loves to see the Jets coming on
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the schedule, Mac Johns. Mac Jones is five and zero
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: in his NFL career against the New York Jets, all five,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: of course with the Patriots, but the opposing quarterback in
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: all five of those Zach Wilson.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: He's no longer there. Of course, we know what Mac
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: has done the rest.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Of the way, But when the Jets come to town,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: at least in his recent past, different story this year, Bucky,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: What's where's.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: This defense so dangerous? Like? What makes this group so good?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: The talent?
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: The talents were really making dangerous because from a schematic standpoint,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: they didn't do a lot. It's very similar to the
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: stuff that Gus Bradley used to do back in the
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: day when he was with the Jaguars. This is the
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: team that really wants to play seaball getball defense. They
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: want to make it simple, they want to play fast.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: They want to be a physical defense. But it's really
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: not a defense that turns it over. They just kind
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: of can clamp you and lock you down to get
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: you in bonnyard situations. And then they're talented enough with
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: their front line that they can get after whether it's
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Quinn Williams upfront or some of the other guys that
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: are hunting will McDonald can get after, Like they have
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: a very talented and disruptive front four.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: And then in the back end Sauce.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: Gardner DJ reed like they are really really good at
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: locking you down and kind of doing some of the
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: stuff that we were doing in terms.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Of playing kind of like this hybrid man to man
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: covered on the outside.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: The thing about it, though, there are some areas that
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: they will leave available to you because they don't believe
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: you have the patience or the discipline to continue to
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: take it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: So the test is own mac jones. Is he patient
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: and disciplined enough to take some of these unneath.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Throws until they kind of create a big play opportunity.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's that's what Mac will do. I mean,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: he clearly to me at the end of the day,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: he is a guy who absolutely will continue to take
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: that as long as he give it to him. I
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: think sometimes against some defenses to his detriment, because at
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: some point you have to le to throw downfield. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I do worry a little bit about over the over
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the last three or four games, Mac checking down and
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: throwing shorts so much. At some point you gotta go downfield.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: But against the Jets it for one game. That sort
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: of patience is is probably what he needs to do
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: with a couple of big ones to BTJ mixed in.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I mean another thing about Mac that I like that
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I think fits him with BTJ and Triva did this too.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: He doesn't mind throwing the ball up to a receiver
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: and having him go make the play. And I don't
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: know if it's because he had talented guys at Alabama,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: if he's used to have you know that being a
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: successful formula at Alabama, Yeah, it didn't hurt. So I
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: do think that will be something that as him and
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: BTJ get little more on the same page, you will
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: see more often with Mac is hey, I don't care
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: if you're doubled right here, it is go get a kid,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: and he can.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: He can certainly can't.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: One more thought on this Jets defense here, Bucky Quincy Williams,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: former Jaguars draft picker Forrris linebacker, third round pick in
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, was sent off and joined the Jets in
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. He was a first team All Pro
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: last year. Unbelievable development he's had.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Where does this come from?
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I would say this like sometimes one man's trash is
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: another man's treasure. And the thing about the National Football League,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: every scheme in every culture doesn't necessarily fit the player,
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: and he obviously jumped into a situation that was a
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: great fit for who he is and how he plays.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: And with the Jets, because I talked about seaball getball defense,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: they really allow him to cut it loose and he
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: is flourished in that now. It certainly helps that he's
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: also playing behind his brother, Quinn Williams, who is a
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: dominant space eater at the point of attack and can
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: create that can occupy a lot of blockers at a
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: point of attack. But no, Quincy Williams says, really become
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: one of the top linebackers and football. Then oh, by
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: the way, JP, I am sure he'll be a little
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: frothy when he comes back. It's always personal when these
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: guys get let go, So look for him to try
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: and make fifteen tackles and have a bunch of big
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: hits because it is something.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: That has a little extra meaning to him when he
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: comes back to do ball.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: And he was drafted what twenty twenty nineteen?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, wow, he played nineteen and twenty and then was
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: gone and one you know.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: It sort of got caught up Urban comes in new GM,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: new scheme, one year thing. Frankly college head coach, so
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: kind of got probably lost up in the mix more
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: than hey, the franchise doesn't like you, so just you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: but obviously he'll come in for them at like I said,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: but a nice kid.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I mean it was great.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I always enjoyed being around him, and I wish he
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: could have had this success here, But I don't know
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: that the schemes that this team has played, I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: know that he would have had that sort of success here.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Not necessarily his fault, if that makes any sense. Like,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I think he's fit what they do very well, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: good for him. Yeah, Yeah, it's.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Great for him.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so now you got to deal with him on Sunday, right,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: add that to the list of things.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: We'll take a look at the playoff races. A f
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: C NFC Our Final thoughts head of the Jaguars Jets
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: matchup coming up this Sunday at the Bank, and to
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: tuddle up with Bucky Brooks.
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: Because honestly, this season this year was just I you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: I just felt how eager these guys are to learn.
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: And this year I can just tell I could just
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: kind of tell they're they're honestly genuinely listening. And uh,
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: and really when I was hurt those those those four weeks, Uh,
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: there was many many instances I helped Rent with a
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: lot of things and gave him some tips and then
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: he'd go out and do it in the game and
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: work and just you know that that feeling is very
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: addicting as a as a veteran player helping young guys
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: be successful. So just kind of, you know, kept it
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: rolling from there. And and honestly, I'm learning from them
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: as well. I've been my running game, like I've been
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: really a lot better this year in the Run Game,
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: and it's because of brand, It's because of Luke. Just
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: you know the example they set in the detail they
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: set in the Run Game.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Devin Ingram Jaguars tight end on helping the younger players
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: around him started when he was on the on the
• 27:31
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• 27:34
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• 27:45
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• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, and we'll get to the playoff races
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: coming up with something we at the start of the show.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: There's all these fans out of here, Bucky, not all
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: of them, but some of them were like, oh, they
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: won the game and screwed up the draft order in
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the building. It's we talked about it. They're excited to
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: win the game, and they should be. They go to
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: play to win the games, coaches and players. So there's
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: that little push and pull going on between fans and
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: things inside the building this time of year.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Bucket, Yeah, but I think it's unrealistic to ask a
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: bunch of competitors to go and just not care about
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: winning games when ultimately you're judged by the scoreboard and
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: also for them they evaluated and how they performed these
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: last few games.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: As much as we want the best players in.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: The draft and all of that other stuff, players that
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: don't care about that, it's right.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: If I'm a player, I don't care about next year.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: I don't care about any of that stuff.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: My job is to put myself in a position to
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: extend my playing career in Jacksonville or otherwise.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: And ultimately, man, I want to win games because.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: If I win games and we do better, it gives
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: us a chance to stay around. Well, whatever player we're
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: supposed to get, and the draft is the player that
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: we're supposed to get. But I think you certainly want
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: to get used to the fielding. You never want to
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: just kind of concede anything and just throw your hands up.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: And say, yeah, let's just take another ill for the
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: sake of just getting through the season and having a
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: high draft.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's rare situations where in your you're in
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: your last game and there's a quarterback involved, where I
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: really really understand and think that it has the proper perspective,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: right we with five weeks remaining, the draft is such
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: a percentage game. The difference between the fourth and the
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: sixth pick. I'm not saying it's it's nothing, but it's,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: like Bucky said, when fans talk to me about it,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: and I get a questions like this every year, when
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: you know you're in a season like this, it's tough
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: to answer because it doesn't even really apply, right, Like
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: for the reasons that Bucky said, these coaches aren't thinking
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: about it, the players aren't thinking about They're not going
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: to think about it. So there's really the fans can
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: get as upset as they want, but it's not going
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: to change the outcome and players and coaches and know
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I sit there and say, hey, hey, what about picking
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: third and fourth? It's uh, And I know it's always
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: going to exist, But the question is almost not worth answering,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: right because it's they're not gonna change their approach anyway, No,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: is it better for the organization?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Well, and then, by the way, if they did change
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: their approach, the league would come down so hard on anybody.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: That did that on purpose, right, And you can't do that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: It's just, uh, it's tough because I do understand why
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: fans think about this. I think they think about it
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: more now that the draft is so analog, Like you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: it's all draft all the time. You know, these talking
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: heads like you know, the Life NFL network. What's his name,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Hey Brooks? Yeah, you know, Yeah, it's all they talk about.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: But but it's, uh, it's tough. But look, there's I
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: answer it this way. JP. There's nothing you can do
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: as a fan to control it. This part of it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: They're gonna go out and try to win. You may
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: as well enjoy it when they win.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: It's the season.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Because they're because they're not gonna not do it. So
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: but yeah, that's it. It's a tough one. Somebody said, well,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: what's better? Well, who knows? If they win five and
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: then aren't any good next year, well then you know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: maybe you should have kept losing. But how do you
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: do that?
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: You can't you see what happened with back to back
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: number one picks A yeah, you know, yeah, I'll.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Say this because so we can look ahead to the draft.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: Like the draft is just it's not like an all
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: time draft where people talk about.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: It like they talk about the positions of strength.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Uh handful of the pass rushers, tackles and stuff. You
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: can find quarterback classes up and down. Wide receiver class
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: is not what has been the last few years.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Really good with running backs though and those things.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: So it's a class that is it's fine, but it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: not one that is going to be held that all men.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: You got to get in the top ten because there
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: are all these gold jacket dyes that are available.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: That's why when you're the Jaguars, man just keep winning games.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: And whoever's there when we pick is whoever's there, and
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: we just kind of find a way to.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: Make it work.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: See and I'll go back to us earlier in the show,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: and it really resonated for me Sunday when I was
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: trying to I was getting a lot of questions like this,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: trying to figure out sort of Okay, where do I
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: come down on this. I keep going back to Jaron Jones,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: you know, and there's moments in seasons where guys sort
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: of start coming into their own and he's been good,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: but the other day, you know, he he got a
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: game ball. I mean, I really got a game ball.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he deserved one.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: And they made plays. There are plays and games, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: there are playing games that matter, and back to back
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  Speaker 4: he knocks down it, he defenses the pass, he gets
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  Speaker 4: a blitz, the kind of confidence that gives you this
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  Speaker 4: off season of UH. He's a confident kid. I him
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: on the ozone podcast and he said, Hey, I never
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  Speaker 4: liked for confidence. Then he kind of said, you know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: but a game like that sort of makes you feel
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: like you're right to feel good about yourself, right, So
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: I do think that sort of thing matters. And in
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: the last four games, if Mason Smith has three big
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: time games and they win a couple because of him,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: that's sort of like getting a draft pick, you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: in a way. So if the right guys are improving
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  Speaker 4: and you win, then I think winning matters a.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Lot that it doesn't matter a lot.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: And look, Jones's a smart kid because he picked a
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: good number, So I'm okay with him.
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  Speaker 6: One of my favorites.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Oh you allowed it? Did he call you first?
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: And I wish, I wish, I wish we had to
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: drop and retire that one thought. I wish I wish
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: they had to pay me a couple of bands, a
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: couple of stacks.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: For UH for the right to wear that. But maybe
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: maybe in another lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: There's only one.
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  Speaker 6: Banks And whoever likes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Warn a lot, it's a lot to do. It's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough.
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  Speaker 4: Credit for having the guts to live in that shadow.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta have confidence to do it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: He's got the he does have a confidence in the
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: game to do us.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Quick thoughts about the playoff races.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Let's start with the n f C and you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: this is Detroit and this is the NFC North.
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  Speaker 2: Really is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: These these three teams at the top of that division
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: are right there in the thick of it. Lyons, Eagles, Seahawks,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Bucks lead their divisions. Then the wild card with Minnesota,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Green Bay and Washington at the moment, Rams Falcons and
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: some others in the hunt. But with Bucky, that NFC North,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: it's a juggernaut. We saw that firsthand this year. Where
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: do you stand now with four weeks to go?
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  Speaker 2: Here?
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  Speaker 5: Look, I think the Lions are probably one of the
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: better teams. They're the most complete team, but they have
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: a lot of injuries. I love what the Minnesota Vikings
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: are doing, how they really elevated Sam Donald with the
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: personnel and the scheme. The Green Bay Packers are a
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: tough team. The team that is the best team is
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: the team that has some infighting, and that would be.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: The Philadelphia Eagles.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: When you look at the way that they play Sakuon Barkley,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: how they able to use that combination of Barkley and Hurts.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: But you got some whiny and mopi wide receivers that.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: Could derail what is a super Bowl caliber team. So
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: you just wonder if they can put it together.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: But right now, man, my money's on Dan Campbell in
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions because man, they get it done.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: They play a physical, stylid ball.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: That always works and even though he's a little risky
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: for my taste, it seems to work for them in Motown,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: particularly if they're able to get home for the vantage.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: For Yeah, it's weird. I feel like these injuries the
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Lions are getting you could start having a situation there.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Alo's not their fault. Where the Eagles they have experience,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: they got a Super Bowl a couple of years ago.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: This could be one of those years where the story
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: line is the Lions all season injuries catch up and
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the Eagles get them and all of a sudden, next year,
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: the Lions have to put up with how they can
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: never win the big one. I hope not, because I
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: kind of like, I mean, they're fun to watch. I
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: like the Lions. I like Dan Campbell marks up there,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: so you sort of feel like, if a team's gonna
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: win it, you'd like to see it. But it's shaping
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: up like that a little bit that it plays out
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: that way sometimes.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: And by the way, the Lions this week hosts the
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills, which brings us to the AFC Playoff Race,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: and what a game that should be down the stretch.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: And this AFC Playoff race, led of course by Kansas
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: City twelve and one. They keep finding ways to win.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: The Bills two games back. The Steelers aren't going going away.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: We'll see what Houston does. If they can finish it out,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: they can secure the division with a win and an
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: inding loss.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: This week Baltimore.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: LA Chargers, Denver Broncos the wildcard teams at the moment.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Is anybody catching Kansas City buck You?
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Uh, No, no one's catching them.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: So the road to the Zoop Bowl that is going
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: to go through Arrowhead Stadium and Taylors Whilt will probably
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: be in the Bigga Building. The thing about the Kansa
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: City Chiefs is they mastered the art of winning. They
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: understand how to win in a bunch of different ways.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: You don't win fifteen straight one score games without understanding
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: how to kind of get it done in the clutch.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: And as as long as they have number fifteen bat
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Mahomes who understands how to take the game over in
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, they're gonna be a tough out. And
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: this year when everyone is talking about lucky stuff and
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: all the different ways that they're winning and kind of taking,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I would say jabs of the Kansaity Chiefs. I'll say
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: this man who's gonna feel.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: Great about playing the boogeyman in arrow hit in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter? Win the game is tight? Nobody.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: So I'm saying to Canan see, the Chiefs are gonna
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: go back and they're gonna be in a position at
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: three feet Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I said it last week. They're they're like overlooked in
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: some weird way, like and discounted for a two time
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: champion that's twelve and one. We've seen it here all year, right,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: A team that can't win late they did last week.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: You know they haven't until last year.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: It's a storyline and doing this a long time, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: this year just hit me the realization of good teams
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: win games late and they and they have a couple
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: of guys who do it, and they know how to
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: do it, and in a league of one score games,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: the teams that do it are the great teams. And
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: can City's twelve and one. They've almost you know, after
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: everybody's saying all year they weren't that good as good
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: as before, They're gonna have home field in Arrowhead, I
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: think for all but what they've had it every year
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: since like nineteen thirteen.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Last year it was the first year they didn't have
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: it right, right, Yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: So uh, credit to them. They know how to do
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: it and knowing how to do it in it in
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: a league with a bunch of teams that don't know
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: how to do it matters.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: It certainly does. By the way.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: The Steelers at the Eagles this week, big ball game
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: there between the conferences. As we mentioned, the Bills and
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the Lions also, so some big games coming up. Jaguars
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Jets also coming up this week at the Bank.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: One o'clock winning streak.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happens when you win two or more.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: It's called a winning streak.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Bucky, good By, you got to win one before you
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: can win too. So we got one down, let's see
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: if we can get the second one. You're gonna call it,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: I mean they lock it for me to call it,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: they need to lock it in whatever like that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Look, I just want to show up and play well.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: If we shore up and play well and get number two,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: then maybe next week I consider calling.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's a lot to ask.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: I just want to see this play called in Vegas.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: That's the Bucky Brooks ball.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Next next week, wait for that preview.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Come on, we'll find out where your bread is buttered.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I guess next week, Bucky. Come on, man, we're all duball.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: You'll have one of those shirts.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: In the middle like the Kelsey Mother right on those.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: We'll get to that next week. Bucky, have a good one.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you on Sunday. Here at the bank, man,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks out of here, John Osier Our thanks to David, Joe,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunato.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks to you for watching. It is huddle up with
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Bucky Brookly