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9-25-26 Hour 1 Football Friday · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: It's a Bud Light Football Friday. Bud Light, the official
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  Speaker 1: beer sponsor of the Denver Broncos. Remember to enjoy responsibly. So,
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  Speaker 1: big game coming up this weekend, Sunday night football, big
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  Speaker 1: games in college football. I'd like to start with last night, though,
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  Speaker 1: because I just, I don't know what is happening.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know what you don't know, right?
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  Speaker 1: So, the Packers suck, huh? Like, they're really, really bad.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons, who did not run a play in
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  Speaker 1: the red zone the first two weeks of the season,
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  Speaker 1: looked like they could do whatever they wanted against the
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. They had a 200-yard rusher and a
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  Speaker 1: 200-yard receiver in the same game. The Packers had nothing
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  Speaker 1: on offense. If you think run-pass splits for the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: was bad in week one, well, go take a look
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  Speaker 1: at what happened with the Packers' offense in that game.
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  Speaker 1: They threw the ball 53 times. to only eight rushing attempts.
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  Speaker 1: Eight rushing attempts to 53 passing attempts in a game
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  Speaker 1: that was close for most of it.
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  Speaker 3: The previous week was the same tally. They threw the
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  Speaker 3: ball a ridiculous amount of times. And regarding Atlanta, my
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  Speaker 3: last words to you, Brett, nah, Pennix won't make a difference.
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  Speaker 3: That's just a bad team.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like Pennix was great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was okay.
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  Speaker 3: He made a difference.
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  Speaker 1: He did make a difference.
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  Speaker 3: He made a difference. B.
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  Speaker 1: John Robinson and Brian Robinson Jr. running all over the
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  Speaker 1: place also made a huge difference. I just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: LeFleur after the game goes, right now I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what we're doing well offensively. And I'm like, you don't say.
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  Speaker 1: Because that is miserable. Jordan Love could have had five
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  Speaker 1: interceptions last night. He was missing wide open receivers. They
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  Speaker 1: couldn't pass protect. They got nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we saw these signs before. Remember, week one, they
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  Speaker 1: gave up that massive comeback to the Vikings. Lost that
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  Speaker 1: game because they gave up, what, 23 in the fourth
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  Speaker 1: quarter or something like that. The following week, last week,
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  Speaker 1: they played against the Jets. Should have lost to the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow find a way to win in overtime. And then
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  Speaker 1: you get this. It's like, okay, well, the Packers are
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  Speaker 1: just bad. They're now in the Chargers category of, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you have to worry about that team anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Just weird.
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  Speaker 3: I found out what it was about Matt LaFleur. Afterwards,
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  Speaker 3: his facial hair is too sharply shaven.
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  Speaker 1: No, everything about him is too manicured.
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  Speaker 3: But it's too sharply shaven. It's like every angle, every turn,
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  Speaker 3: it's sharp. It's almost like, whoa, that's sharp.
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  Speaker 1: Well, his hair is always perfectly faded. It's like he
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  Speaker 1: goes to the barber every day. And he's always been
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  Speaker 1: a pretty boy like that. Now, Moshe, you've done nothing
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  Speaker 1: but laugh here in talking about the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much, yeah. It's amazing, before the season begins, you
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  Speaker 2: have all these preconceived ideas in your head about what
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  Speaker 2: a team should be and what they should look like
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  Speaker 2: and how they should go and so on. And then
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  Speaker 2: you play the games and everything changes. And the Falcons,
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  Speaker 2: my goodness, I had no idea. We did do a
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  Speaker 2: true or false, I think, the other day, and you asked, well...
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  Speaker 2: will the Falcons be different with– the Falcons will be
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  Speaker 2: much improved, blah, blah, blah, blah, with Michael Penix and quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, true.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that they would be a better football. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't think they'd be this better, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But here's what I'm trying to figure out. Is that
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  Speaker 1: the Falcons being much better with Michael Penix, or is
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  Speaker 1: that the Packers being terrible?
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  Speaker 2: Probably a little bit of both, to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit of both.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how many times Jordan Love was hit
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  Speaker 1: last night?
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  Speaker 2: Twelve. Twelve.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was only sacked one time. He was
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  Speaker 1: hit 12 times. They couldn't protect. And they didn't attempt
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  Speaker 1: to run the football. And when they did throw it,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing accurately. It was a mess.
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  Speaker 3: I kept double-taking, is this game in Atlanta? Or is
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  Speaker 3: it at Lambeau?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because I couldn't tell. It was wild. The tradition of Lambeau.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait, where is this game being played?
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  Speaker 1: Here's what's funny. There was a clip after the game.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a clip after the Broncos game, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to play these side by side. So, Jesse, if
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  Speaker 1: you could, could you cue up Tucker Kraft for me?
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  Speaker 1: Because they're talking to him after the game. Tucker Kraft
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  Speaker 1: just got a big contract extension before the season started.
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  Speaker 1: He's their number one tight end. He's asked about the
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  Speaker 1: fans are booing them. And look, I hate Green Bay. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was adoring watching that game last night.
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  Speaker 1: That fan base has every right to boo whatever the
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  Speaker 1: hell was on the field last night. Like, every right.
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  Speaker 1: But Tucker Craft said this and about being booed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty tough.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like everyone pictures Lambeau Field and the, not boos.
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  Speaker 3: I don't picture boos.
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  Speaker 4: I picture my home stadium.
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  Speaker 1: That's tough.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty disappointing. Especially for a home opener.
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  Speaker 2: Especially for a home opener.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty disappointing. It's not going to help us win. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: People think that's going to rally us.
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  Speaker 3: Or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, we're growing, man. We're mentally strong enough,
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  Speaker 4: capable enough to get back on the field and play ball.
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  Speaker 4: But it would be much easier with the 70,000 people
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  Speaker 4: behind us rather than opposing us.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a periodic reminder.
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  Speaker 2: You know what that sounds like? I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: insulting he's going to make this a better show. That's
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  Speaker 2: kind of what it sounds like. It's a periodic reminder
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  Speaker 2: to players, though.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: It is not the fans' responsibility to make sure you
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  Speaker 1: play well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: They're not cheerleaders. They've paid money. They've paid for parking.
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  Speaker 1: They've spent a hundred and some dollars on concession stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They've been doing this all day. They might have traveled
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  Speaker 1: to the game.
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  Speaker 3: They're there to.
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  Speaker 1: Watch a show.
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  Speaker 3: And they have expectations.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, and you're supposed to be good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, man. If I go to Broadway...
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  Speaker 1: and I pay for a ticket to go to some
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  Speaker 1: Broadway show, and I'm going to see Rent, and the
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  Speaker 1: lead actor in the Broadway show is drunk, slurring their words,
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  Speaker 1: singing off key, I think I have every right to
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  Speaker 1: be like, boo! I paid for a ticket. This is
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  Speaker 1: a terrible product.
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  Speaker 3: If your stockbroker loses you money, immense amount of money,
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  Speaker 3: in the stock market, you're not going to cheer him
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  Speaker 3: on Yeah. Good job. Keep going harder. Keep being better.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the way it works.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's funny is that, um, so in standup comedy,
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  Speaker 1: if you get to this really high level where everybody
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  Speaker 1: knows your name, if you're like a Chappelle or a,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Louis CK or somebody like that, they
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  Speaker 1: don't bomb very often because those people are so excited
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  Speaker 1: to see the show that all they have to do
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  Speaker 1: is tell a mildly good joke and they will how laughing.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I feel about home crowds, especially one
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  Speaker 1: like green Bay. If you just play decent, you're never
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  Speaker 1: going to get that reaction. That only happens when you
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  Speaker 1: play so god-awful. And I'm sure everybody went into that
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  Speaker 1: game saying, hey, man, rough first couple of weeks, but
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  Speaker 1: at least we got Atlanta this weekend. And to get
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  Speaker 1: kicked like that, they have.
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  Speaker 2: Every right to do it. Because they should have lost
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  Speaker 2: to the Jets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They should have.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just Green Bay. Again, in Denver last week,
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  Speaker 3: after series number two and series number three, where the
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  Speaker 3: offense did nothing. Guess what? The crowd booed.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to hear how the Broncos' tight end
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  Speaker 1: reacted to the same question? Here's Evan Ingram.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they expect a lot of us to, so
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  Speaker 3: we got to be better. We will be better, and
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  Speaker 3: hopefully we'll continue it so they can keep cheering us
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  Speaker 3: and hear less boos for sure.
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  Speaker 1: That's the right answer. We got to be better. That's
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  Speaker 1: all you got to say. There's one simple way to.
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  Speaker 3: Not be booed.
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  Speaker 2: Be better. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody boo their football team when they're
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  Speaker 1: up 30 points. Never seen it in my life.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, man, I preach to the choir here. I have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of friends who played pro sports, still play
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  Speaker 3: pro sports. I have no remorse when it comes to that.
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  Speaker 3: That's part of the job. When you sign up and
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  Speaker 3: you get paid big dollars, that's part of the job.
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  Speaker 3: You better have some thick skin.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the odd thing, though, going into this weekend for
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos. You aren't going to have a game that
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  Speaker 1: feels like that for a while. And here's what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: The Broncos are not going to be huge favorites against
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  Speaker 1: anybody for weeks. You're going to have games in which
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a grind, right? How do you
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  Speaker 1: deal with that every single week? For example, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to make a promise here. And here's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: If the Broncos end up losing this weekend to the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a scenario outside of complete
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  Speaker 1: embarrassment in which I jump on the air and be like,
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  Speaker 1: what a disaster that game was, right? Because you're playing
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  Speaker 1: against a good opponent. You're playing against a good football team.
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  Speaker 3: Unless the result is like the last time they played
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  Speaker 3: the Rams, which led to a coaching change.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, unless complete embarrassment, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's reasonable to for the Broncos to lose this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: It's also very reasonable for them to come out with
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  Speaker 1: a win, but here's what I'm getting at. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think in a loss, I'll be freaking out too much
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  Speaker 1: on Monday, but I do think with a win, it
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  Speaker 1: could be a, huge morale boost. Does that make sense? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you have a lot to lose this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: No? That's a very field day approach.
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  Speaker 1: There's some, look, some weeks you play Atlanta. And some
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  Speaker 1: weeks you play the favorites to win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And there are different expectations for what those games look like.
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  Speaker 3: So if they lose 21-20, people will be upset?
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  Speaker 1: Look, you'll still be disappointed, but I think that'll be
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  Speaker 1: more of like a, you know what? Rams are good.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's going to have that feel to it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. If it was the other way around, if the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos beat the Rams 21-20... I think the Rams are going, eh,
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  Speaker 2: Broncos are good.
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  Speaker 3: One and two were good.
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  Speaker 2: No, listen, Brett, I just think with the start of
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  Speaker 2: the season, with the schedule the way it is, you
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  Speaker 2: can ill afford to screw around and get popped. And
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  Speaker 2: on the home field, you should be able to take
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  Speaker 2: care of business.
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  Speaker 3: You know what Brett is right now, Moshe? Brett is Dale.
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  Speaker 3: Dale's a loser.
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  Speaker 2: You got to say it. Dale's a loser.
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  Speaker 1: Dale's a loser.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What event are they participating in in which Dale became
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  Speaker 3: a loser? Was it the softball team?
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  Speaker 1: Something like that, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The company softball team. Everybody just have a good time.
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  Speaker 3: It's not about winning.
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  Speaker 1: See.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here to win. Dale's a loser.
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  Speaker 1: Look, the reaction that we had after the Chiefs loss,
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  Speaker 1: if you lose 21 to 10 to the Rams, will
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  Speaker 1: not be the same. It won't feel that way.
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  Speaker 3: There was, there was, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Me, personally, I was freaking after the Chiefs game. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what the hell did I just witness?
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  Speaker 3: Brett, it was 31-10. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: You said 21-10. I said, if the Broncos lose 21-20, like.
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  Speaker 1: Vic said, to the Rams... It won't feel like the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs game is what I'm saying. Yeah, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: you're putting together a safety net.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like you're building your own.
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  Speaker 3: Mental safety net.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. Because the next week you've got
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  Speaker 2: to go to San Francisco. And the odds are they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be 3-0 and ready to kick your butt.
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  Speaker 3: We know how vulnerable you can be. And we know
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  Speaker 3: that it's tough for you. So you're building in the
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  Speaker 3: back of your mind. You're crocheting this blanket.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And the blanket's going to be ready to catch you.
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  Speaker 1: Would, before the season, Vic Lombardi saying this team needs to,
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  Speaker 1: if they went three and three through the first six
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  Speaker 1: weeks that you would take it immediately, is that field day?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, every game you expect to win,
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  Speaker 3: you're walking into this game saying, it's okay if they lose.
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  Speaker 3: I just, I think that's amateur.
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  Speaker 2: Brett, here's, can I tell you my fear? Here's my fear.
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  Speaker 1: I've said this since Monday. I just, I think, I
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  Speaker 1: think the Rams are better. I think they're the best
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  Speaker 1: team in the league. And that's not an insult to
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos. So if I think they're the best team
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  Speaker 1: in the league.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't bother San Francisco. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the best team in the league doesn't win
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  Speaker 1: every single game, but they win most of their games.
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  Speaker 1: That's what makes them the best.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my fear.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just being honest here. This isn't field day.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: But if you go one and two, you're likely probably
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  Speaker 2: going to be one and three.
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  Speaker 1: Well, why is that?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're going on the road to San Francisco and
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  Speaker 2: they're really good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Brett, you've played enough golf now. If you go
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  Speaker 3: into a golf round and you say, oh, I will
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  Speaker 3: never shoot in the 70s, then I got no chance.
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  Speaker 3: What are your chances of shooting in the 70s?
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  Speaker 1: I thought that yesterday and I shot six over. I
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  Speaker 1: thought I was going to be terrible yesterday on the
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  Speaker 1: first tee box.
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  Speaker 3: And you played well?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I shot a 78.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's the way your mind works then. Maybe you're
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  Speaker 3: different than most.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got a couple problems today that I need
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  Speaker 2: to confess before we get to our first break. Number one,
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  Speaker 2: my right ear is plugged. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 3: What'd you put in there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's post-nasal drip. Who knows, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because I also golfed yesterday. And for some reason, plants
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  Speaker 2: are having a late summer. And they're, like, throwing their
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  Speaker 2: stuff all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: You've been complaining about plants for four straight months.
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  Speaker 2: No, only for about two. Because that's when we finally
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  Speaker 2: got some rain. That being said, I lost money to Vic.
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  Speaker 2: And he was supposed to be in studio today so
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  Speaker 2: that I could pay him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do it. I'm not accepting your money.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need your charity. No, it's not about charity.
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  Speaker 3: I've been there where your swing is so messed up
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  Speaker 3: that no matter what you try, and this is not
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  Speaker 3: charity for me. It's an understanding. It's a brotherly understanding.
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  Speaker 3: I have been there. It wasn't even fun because you
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  Speaker 3: couldn't figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: I told Beds there was a time when Vic and
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  Speaker 2: I were playing at Ravenna, right? And there's this long
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  Speaker 2: par three, and he's got a five iron in his hand.
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  Speaker 2: And Brett, and there's a big goalie and ditch on
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  Speaker 2: the right. He literally hit three straight shots directly right
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  Speaker 2: into the ditch. And then you couldn't get a word
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  Speaker 2: out of him from that point on. He wouldn't talk. Yeah. Simply,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was mute. He wouldn't talk.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it does to you.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not even sure that you played the next
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  Speaker 2: four holes. I mean, it crushes you as a human being.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. Yesterday, I was crushed as a human.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't swing the club. Brett, every 56 degree, I
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  Speaker 2: schooled like Brett Cain over the green off a tree.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean like Brett Cain? I shot six
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  Speaker 1: over yesterday. Who are you talking to?
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  Speaker 3: It would be less than human for me. To go
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: into your pocket.
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  Speaker 2: I deserve. No, I want to pay. I deserve it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not taking it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Let's find him.
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  Speaker 2: I'll pay you.
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  Speaker 1: Have him pay me. I'll take his money. Let's do that. 303-504-0925.
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  Speaker 1: JB Long is going to join us at 820. Stick around.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Bud Light football Friday. Broncos and Rams Sunday
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  Speaker 1: night football. Can we expand on something?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, it really is an odd feeling when
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  Speaker 2: you have a plugged ear. It feels like somebody threw
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  Speaker 2: you in the dryer and turned it on.
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  Speaker 1: Letting you know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I hope you.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I'll work it out.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: You get through that. Here's my question. And maybe you're right.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Is it field day when I think the Broncos are
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: going to lose?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Because I do. No, I never said that. I never
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: said that.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Again, for me this weekend.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Listen, don't get that confused because there are people online
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: or on the text line that said, well, Vic, didn't
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: you feel the Broncos were going to lose game one?
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: But I didn't say what Brett said. What Brett said was, well,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: isn't it just sort of a can't lose situation for
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: the Broncos? It's OK if you lose.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: No, it's never OK. Ever.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: All right. Let me clarify. If I expect a team
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: is going to lose going into the game, and it's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: not because I feel like that team is bad, the
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Broncos certainly could win this weekend, too. It's just if
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I had to guess, I just think the Rams are
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the best team in the league, and they'll lose. But
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, I would be a lot more emphatic,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I suppose, about a win than a loss because it's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: what I expected if they lose. If they win, it'll
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: make me feel great. Like, it'll give me a jolt
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of confidence in this team.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: And I think the only way they can do that
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: is by getting a good offensive performance, and it's something
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: that I'm just not expecting. It's part of the reason
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: going into it why I don't feel great about it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I can see how the Broncos can win this game.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I can see it. It's in my brain right now.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: It's in the back of my brain. It's making its
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: way to my eyes. It's in my eyes and now
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: to my mouth. I can see the onslaught. I can
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: see an early lead. Finally, an opening drive that results
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: in a touchdown. Finally. All right, so get in the
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: end zone. And then I could see an early turnover
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: by the Rams where they have to play catch up
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: and they start throwing the ball a lot. And then
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: an onslaught at Matt Stafford. Just an onslaught. And they're
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: coming from everywhere. The Broncos pass rush, which is extraordinary
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: when it gets going. Dial it up and get going.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: That's how they can win this game. I see it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: But you got to score early.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: You can't do what you did against Jacksonville. You can't play.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: three and out three times. You can't do that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. They got to do it. They got
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to do something. I haven't seen them do yet. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: haven't seen them do for most of last year too,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: which is play well, offensively early in the football game.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And I think it's a necessity. And that's what I
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: just have a, I guess I have a problem getting
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: my mind wrapped around. Somebody says, Sharman has a new
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: tier of toilet paper coming out called ultra bread.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I liked it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I like it, but I don't think it's being soft.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I think you're going to lose.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I think the Rams are better.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: There's plenty of times that I think that a team
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: is better than another team. And you can still be
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a top team in the league.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Hey, go ahead. I didn't think Kansas City was better.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: When I said that the Broncos were in trouble, I
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: still don't think Kansas City is better. I just think
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: the situation was one that, look out, it's Arrowhead, it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: the opener. That's, like, if you played that game again,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: the Broncos aren't missing those teams.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Well, Vic, why can't you have a situation that on
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: your home field, Why can't you have the situation that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Kansas City had in week one? Why can't you say
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: we're on our home field just like last week? Jacksonville's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a good football team. Who do they got this week,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: by the way? Do you know who Jacksonville has this week?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Not off the top of my head.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing they're going to bounce back and put on
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: a good performance. That's my guess. Let's see if I
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: can find it here. Does it matter? Yeah, well, they're
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: home against the Pats. I bet they beat the Patriots
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: at home this week. They're going to bounce back. Well,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: why can't the Broncos beat? that team that you protect
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: your home field even against the other best teams in
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the national football?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: They were really good at it last year. They had
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: one home loss last season.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: No, the Broncos can very much win this football game.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I think what Vic is saying, that's the way it's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: got to happen.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Well, you've got to get to Stafford. Again, If he
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: has time to throw the football, he will kill you.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: See, but I'm not, again, Moshe, I'm not focused on
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the Broncos' defense versus the Rams' offense. I just feel
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: like what's going to happen is the Rams are going
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to score.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So the Broncos' offense against the Rams' defense?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: They're going to score in the 20s. It's all about,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to me, what the Broncos' offense is going to do.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: If they operate like they did the first two weeks,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: which is they gave you nothing in the first half,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you're going to lose.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: If they don't, if they change things around, if they
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: get a couple of touchdowns in the first half, then
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you're in business.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Hell, I think they've got to be better than they
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: were against Jacksonville. That ain't going to do it either.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: You've got to score 24, 28 points to win this game.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get stuff from the one-yard line three times
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: in a row. You throw an interception in the red zone.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: That's going to be a loss against this team.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: That's it. We'll find out. I mean, Sunday night, the
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: other thing we're discounting is just the home field advantage
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: for the Broncos is real.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It's real. And it's more real than it is for
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: other teams. Always has been and always will be.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I think so. And look, man, they have such a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: good opportunity in front of them, which is you are
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: on a national stage in a big game. This is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: one that, look, man, if you win and you go
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to 2-1-1, you want to talk about keeping your head
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: above water for this beginning part of the schedule, the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: really difficult part? God, this would go a long way
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to do it. This would give you a ton of
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: margin for error.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's... Yeah, absolutely it would. When we're talking about,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: we'll take the three and three through these first six. Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: This would be huge. No doubt. Really, really big. But again,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: my fear is that if you don't and you got
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: to go to San Fran against a very good team,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: you know, things can get away from you quickly. For sure.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: That's my fear.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Get back to this in a bit. Did you guys
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: happen to see So ESPN did the same thing that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the NFL does before the season starts. They kick off
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a top 100 list of 100 best players.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: In the league.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Does it surprise you they still have Jokic at number
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: one instead of like a Wimby or a Shea?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Who has Joker at number one?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: ESPN, their top 100 list.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: They still have Joker at number one. Does that surprise you?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I guess it does because I still think that people
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: don't believe he's the best player in the league, even
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: if I do.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: It surprised.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I would have him at number one. It surprised me
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that they did because I thought they would have been
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: all over Wemenyama.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I thought, like... Well, rightfully so. I mean, he's an
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: absolute stud.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And they said in their write-up that the margin between
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Jokic and Wemenyama and Shea is all razor thin. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: he's still seen, as far as ESPN's concerned, the number
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: one player in the league. And here's what's funny. Why
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't a guy... who averaged 28, 13, and 11, be
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: considered the top player in the league.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Again, we're in that. We take it for granted.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: We just take it for granted, the numbers and what
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: they are. And I just want you to close your
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: eyes if you're a Nuggets fan. Close your eyes and
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: imagine life without Nicola Yoki. No, no, no, no.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: It's a black void. It's just, it's, it's shoot me
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: into space.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: You know, pardon me.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And call it a day.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Can I make a confession? I want to savor every
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: hour that he's with us in Denver, every hour that
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: he plays. But I'm also the kind of guy, too,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: it's exciting to know that you have to still go.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: You have to build the team after he's done. I mean,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: it's not like the franchise doesn't just go away. There's
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: a new rendition to the franchise that you have to
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: figure out. And it's a fine line. When do you
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: start working on that while you have him here? Or
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: do you just disassemble and say, screw it, we're going
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: to be really bad for five years? He's still a
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: young human being.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: He's not old. Even with his game in the NBA,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: he's not old.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He's 31.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, he can play until he's 40 if he'd
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like to.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: He won't.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a chance of God's green earth
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that he plays until he's in his late 30s. He'll
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: run off into the sunset with his horses. But he
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: could because his game is tailored to a style that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: allows him to just go, go, go like a machine.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So when do you start doing that? Well, I think
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you're always trying to get better. You're always trying to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: draft and develop, and hopefully one of these kids ends
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: up being a player and so on and so forth. But,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to think about life without
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Joker right this second unless you have some sort of
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: idea that he's going to ride off into the sunset
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: sometime soon. I mean, he's going to get another Supermax,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and then that probably will be it for him, I'm guessing.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Somebody said to me, because Nuggets Media Day is Monday,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and they get going, training camp in Boulder, by the way.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: They're going to camp out in Boulder. They got their
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: first preseason game in Boulder next Sunday. And someone said,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: so when does Joker get here? He's probably here already.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I said, Joker gets here maybe a few minutes before
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: media day starts, man. He takes his time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he takes like a red eye.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes his time.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think he takes a red eye. I think
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: he's got his own jet. He's got a jet. Dude,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: he ain't sitting like Moj in the last row.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Actually, good question.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: On American Airlines.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Can a small jet make it from Belgrade to Denver?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: You have to stop. Yeah, you're going to have to stop.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: You can. You're going to have to go like. To
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: somewhere on the west coast of Europe, refuel, come over
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to like over the top to like Nova Scotia, refuel
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: So a double refuel.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Probably for a little jet like that. Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I just never.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but you're probably right. I never considered Joker's...
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he has his own jet, but
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: he probably takes a PJ.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Well, my guess is he can afford a big PJ. Now,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: some of... I got to Google this now. You got
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: me curious. Go ahead. Keep going.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I don't really have anything else on the subject.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget the PJ escapade for Joker when he
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: went to the All-Star Game in Cleveland.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: And... Oh, dude. The Gulfstream, the G800, G5, the more
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: frequent flyer miles. Funny stuff. Dude, it's got a nautical
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: range of 8,200 nautical miles.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: That's far.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Dude, one refuel someplace, and he's good to go, man.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Come up over the top. That's what you do. You
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: don't go sideways. You go over the top.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know what over the top means and sideways.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so if you're flying.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Colby versus what?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Brett, the earth, right? You got the earth.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: It's flat.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: If you're going to Europe, you don't fly around the
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: fat part. You go north over, it's a shorter distance
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: over the top.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Cut the corner.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: It's a frigging sphere. Do you understand what I'm saying
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: It's flat.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: God, you're so dumb.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: But it's flat.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Hold on, I'll show you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: You don't need to show me. I don't need a globe.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I don't need this. Nope, nope. I regret even expanding
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: farther on this.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I know he's going too far on this. It's just
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: not essential information.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: If there's one thing that our boy Moj loves, he
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: loves to feel like he's teaching you something. And I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: hate being a student. I hated it when I was
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: in school.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Tell Mojo I was teaching him something on the golf
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: course yesterday.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Vic said he was teaching you something on the golf
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: course yesterday if you need to be taught.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't need any lessons.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Why are you lighting a fire to this? This is U.S.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: This is Europe, okay?
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Like right here. Okay.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: What you do is you don't fly around the fat meat.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: You go up over the top.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: It's a shorter distance around the sphere.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, got it. Thank you.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yep. Thank you. Do you understand now? Visually, do you understand?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now do it on a piece of paper because
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: that's what the earth looks like. It's like this.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Tell that to Kyrie Irving.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So he responds. Jesse, you've been to Europe like 800
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: billion times for various reasons. Do you understand what I'm
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you're flying, you can watch it on
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: the map where you're going.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: But yes, I understand what you're saying.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You should have seen Jesse get loose in Stockholm, Sweden.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. I have exhausted... My interest in this topic.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, because you're talking, I mean, maybe he flies
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: like first class on United or something or, you know, Emirates.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm guessing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. But you brought it up.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It's your fault.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question, Vic. Given where the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Nuggets are at right now, and somebody says mouth fart corner,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that was close. Okay. You were close. Given where the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Nuggets are at now, it does feel like you're making
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: one last hurrah. with this team. Is this the last year,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: if the Nuggets do not, if they have a similar
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: exit the last year, first round disappointing, is this the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: last year of Jokic and Murray together, you think?
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: No, because I think the contractual situation for other players
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: will allow them to add some elements. And I said
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: this last February after the trade deadline. What did I
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: say on this show regarding this season, this season coming up?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: What did I say, Moshe?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: You said you might have to take a step back
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: to go forward.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Because of the financial situation, it's dire.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: So, look at who comes off the books here in
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: the next year. Cam Johnson, and I believe Cam Johnson's
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: contract is still up for grabs even at the trade deadline.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson's contract comes off the books. you have one
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: season left in Najee's contract you have some opportunity some
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: flexibility some maneuverability to make some moves I think you
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: survived this season and there's no there's no rule that
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: they can't be good this season surprise they're still a
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: good team they still have a starting five that's elite
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: But you survive the financial ramifications of this season, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: flexibility is around the corner, at least more flexibility. Will
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: they get to the point where they have to unload
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: one of their top-notch guys? Maybe. Easier said than done.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I've said this before. How do you know they didn't
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: try already?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm more looking at it, like, not so much
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: from a financial perspective, but will the belief in the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: duo of Murray and Jokic, if they don't win something
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of substance this year, will they say it's run its course?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: That's more of my thought process. Like that whole two
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: man game between these two, will you make the decision? Like, um,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: You know, the Bucs did before everything fell apart, but
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we're going to break up this
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, Giannis. Who else was in that?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: True holiday.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Because the Bucs did it and it backfired.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Well, of course.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Backwards in a hurry. So I know where you're coming from.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: You know, Golden State, Golden State has added some pieces,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: lots of pieces. They've kept most of the, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: most of the time they've kept their core intact.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Easier to do that with seven finals appearances that you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: have with that roster.
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  Speaker 3: I know. I don't see them doing anything crazy like
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: that unless they fall flat on their face this season. Now,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: if that happens, it's, again, easier said than done. When
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: people say, hey, just trade Jamal or just trade Aaron
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: or just trade, well, people want, you got to have
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: someone that wants them for that money.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I still, and I don't know the story. I would
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: have to imagine, Vic, even with what is Jamal making?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: What's his contract, like $ 50.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Million a year? $ 52 million.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: He's like a top 20 player in the league. That
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: should be movable if you wanted to. I mean, ESPN,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about their list. They have Jamal
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: as the 21st best player in the NBA.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Four years, $ 208 million.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, so $ 50, yeah, $ 52 a year.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: $ 52 million a year for a top 20 player doesn't
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: seem like unreasonable, does it?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I also believe that moving contracts necessitates draft picks to
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: move with them. If you look at all the deals
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: that have been made recently, there's no deal out there
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: that doesn't come equipped with a draft pick on top
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: of a movement. And I don't know why that's the case.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Teams want, you know, I'm going to need a pick.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: If you want to get off that contract, and I
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: know you want to get off that contract, you have
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: to add a pick to it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: But in this scenario, though, Vic, you aren't salary dumping Jamal.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: You're just saying, well, we're going to move in a
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: different direction. You know, when Kawhi got traded from the Clippers,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: they didn't have to attach draft picks to it. They
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: got draft picks in return.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I think that would more be the case if you're
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: trading Jamal. Now, if you want to talk about anybody
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: else in the roster, I think that, yeah, you're probably right.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: If you wanted to get rid of, I don't know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Zeke's contract or CB's or whoever, that's probably where you
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: get attached stuff to it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: No, I think Jamal's a valuable enough guy. You don't really, he's.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his value is that he's a top 20 player
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: in the league.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: If you're an all-NBA player, like, you shouldn't be attaching
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: picks to anybody.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: No, you're not, yeah, you're not saying, hey, take him
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: off our hands and take this, too. I mean, teams
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: just want him for him.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So do you think, I'm going to ask this.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's not even 30 years old yet, Vic.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: He's got plenty, he's got plenty of time.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask, do you think there are teams
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: knocking on the Nuggets' door to take on his contract?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: They want to move him.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Everybody's tradable. Everybody knocks on doors.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but what if they don't want to move him
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I'm asking you the question, not about what they want
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: to do. I'm asking you, are there teams, and who
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: would those teams be to be knocking on the door?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious what you think it is. Well, I'd
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: have to really study it, but I know he's valuable.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: He holds a lot of value in this league.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I think teams would want an all-NBA point guard.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I think they would.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Now, get back to this in a bit. It is
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a Bud Light Football Friday back after this. To Bud
• 34:10
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• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Remember to enjoy responsibly.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: J.B.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Long is going to join us at 820. Get a
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: little preview.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Well, tell everybody who he is.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: The play-by-play man of the Rams.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That's correct. I kind of just want to find out
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: which Rams team is the team. You know, look, they
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: beat up those nerds, the Giants, last weekend, but Are
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: they back for real? Because they were a shell of
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: themselves down under.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I think, you know, Sean McVay hinted at it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: And I hate to totally dismiss it this way. You know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: part of the problem is, if there's one team they've
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: had struggles with, it's always been San Francisco. It's always
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: been Kyle Shanahan. And it doesn't really matter what version
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of the Niners you get. Brock Purdy, Mac Jones... Kittle hurt,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Kittle not, Werner hurt, Werner not. The Niners always just
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: find a way to make life difficult on the Rams.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: But I think you know exactly what the Rams are.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: They're a very, very talented team that if you aren't
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: on your P's and Q's, they can kick you in
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: a hurry and put you in a hole that's really
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: difficult to overcome.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: We've talked about this before. This is Sunday night football.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: When did it become the Broncos have already played a
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Monday night game? But in my book, in my estimation,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Sunday night football has moved past Monday night football for
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: the marquee event. When did that happen? It is for me.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys. First of all, your
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: comment on that. For me, a Sunday night game is
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: more front and center than a Monday night game.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy that. I prefer Sunday
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: night to Monday night games. I prefer it. I'd rather
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: have it the same day as all the other games,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and then you get the marquee matchup that night. I'd
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: rather have it that way. But I still think Monday is,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, think about everything that goes into it. It's
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a two-hour pregame show about essentially a single game on
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: a Monday. It's multiple broadcasts of the game, whether it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: that or the Manning cast or whatever. I still think it's,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: when you say bigger, I think Monday Night Football is
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: still probably bigger.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: It's, Vic, in my head from my youth.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Well, the ratings for Sunday night, Trump Monday night, just
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: so you know. Sunday night ratings.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because it just bleeds all the way through
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: all day and then into the night. But Monday night
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: football is still near and dear to my heart. I
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: guess I'm an old, if you want to call me
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: an old. I remember in college, I'd get out of class,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you know, late class, and I'd be in the student union,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the Burger King, watching Monday night football, doing some work.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: On your old black and white?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Old black and white. Rabbit ears, the tinfoil.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Vic's right, though. I mean, Sunday Night Football gets 21
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to 23 million viewers, while Monday Night gets 14 to 15.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: That's not even close.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I was unaware of that.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football's where it's at, and I think this
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Sunday night, the scene is going to be electric. It's
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: going to be awesome.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a great game. Doesn't Monday night, they have
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: only a certain amount of flexibility? You know when they
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: have those games that are flexed into bigger windows, primetime windows?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Isn't Sunday night a lot more flexible because it's the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: same day? They don't have to worry about travel days
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: or rest days.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: ESPN has been given some love, though, over the years.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: They have.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: What they can do on Mondays. Because remember, there was
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: a couple years there where the Monday night schedule was heinous.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: It was awful. So they addressed that. All right, so
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: if you had to put them in order, Thursday night,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Sunday night, Monday night.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Thursday's last.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. You know what, Vic?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You've changed my mind. I go Sunday one, Monday two. Wow.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I was able to change your mind that quickly?
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: But it's... Are you asking my personal preference?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is an opinion show.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: No, I love Sunday night.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to give me Mosher's preference.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I love Sunday night. I hate Thursday. Thursday's just bad football.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Like what we watched last night. That's bad football, man.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And that happens all the time on Thursdays. Even going
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: back to What was the week? Oh, it was Bill's
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Lions the week before. No defense in that game. It's
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: either you get a nasty nothing offensive game or a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: nasty nothing defensive game.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think players mind playing on Sunday night or
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Monday night. I don't think they like playing on Thursday, though.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, the whole short week thing, you know, your
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: time frame gets all messed up. Creatures of habit become
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: ornery and irritable.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: So I want to announce something. I'm not sure I've
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: even told you guys this yet. But it's alumni weekend
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: for the Broncos, so they're going to have a bunch
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: of alum come in for a game like this. It's
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: going to be big. I am working on a project,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: and I am so pumped about this. I'm working with
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: a few different people, and it's going to be big.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: We are doing a documentary on the Orange Crush 1977
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: football team. And this weekend, I'm going to sit down
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: with a bunch of those guys who are in town.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: And among the interviews I'll be doing, I'm going to.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: sit with Steve Foley and Louie Wright, the two corners
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: on that team, together. And among other players that are
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: coming through. And I need to share this because it's
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: important for people who don't understand that 1977 team, albeit
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: they lost in the Super Bowl, may go down as
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: the most important team team in Denver history. It opened
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: the floodgates for Denver. It changed the course of history.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It really did. It changed the city. And those guys
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: will be here. And I don't know how much, how
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: much longer those guys are going to be around. You
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: know that we just lost Craig Morton a couple months ago.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Members of that team. Can't wait to share that project
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: with you. Working on it as we speak.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: It sounds awesome. And look, forgive my ignorance. I wasn't
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: alive during this.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I don't expect you to know a damn thing about
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: it because it's 1977.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: But I heard stories of Foley and Louie Wright in
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: that secondary. How does that stack up to like what
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: the Broncos have now? With obviously Sertan, who's generational, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Riley Moss, pretty damn good player in his own right.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say something that's going to cause debate,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: and it's healthy debate. Listen to me. Listen very closely.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: There is no Bronco defense as dominant as 1977's Broncos defense.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Not even Super Bowl 50's defense. It doesn't exist. The
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: 1977 Denver Broncos defense surrendered 10.7 points a game. I'm
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: going to say that again. 10 points a game is
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: what they allowed.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: And, Brett, it's more than just how– Now, I wasn't
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: saying the defense overall. I was saying just the corners.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: You said you were going to sit down with Foley
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and Louie Wright.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, I got you.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: What does that compare?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Louie Wright should be in the Hall of Fame.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He really should be. But the point is, too, Vic's
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: trying to make here, for all the young'uns out there
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: like yourself, is that not only were they a dominant defense,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: but they changed the course– that defense and that team
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: changed the course of history– For the franchise and this city.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: It was, I mean, it was sort of like a,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: it's a defining moment in the history of Denver sports
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: is what it is.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Moshe, you're a romantic kind of guy.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Do you guys all remember your first love?
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: No.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: You know, go back and think about your first love.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: That you saw that beautiful woman. That was your first love.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Never forget the first time I laid eyes on Terry.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So 1977, for those who were around back then,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: that team, the history of that team, that was Denver's
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: first love. That's what made Denver a legitimate– and I'm
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: not taking this too far. We're going to talk to
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of people who were civic leaders back then too,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: not just football players. It changed the course of Denver history.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: That team did. Very rarely does something like that happen.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: So I can't wait. So this weekend for me, I'm
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: doubly excited. The game and the fact that I get
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: to sit down with all these folks.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Is there like an estimated date that this is going
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to happen?
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Well, it's going to take a long time. These documentaries
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: take forever. I mean, this is our first foray into
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: these interviews. So we're just getting started. You know, we
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: got the thumbs up. You got to get a lot
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: of thumbs up from a lot of different people. Partnering
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: with a person here in town, Brett Goldberg, who did–
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: do you remember the– The ABA documentary that just came out.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Remember that one? He did that one. So got some
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: good people on this side of things to work on it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Can't wait. That's cool.
• 43:15
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• 43:17
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• 43:18
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• 43:21
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• 43:23
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• 43:26
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• 43:28
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• 43:28
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• 43:29
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• 43:32
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• 43:34
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• 43:38
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• 43:42
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• 43:45
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• 43:46
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