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Thank you. Now here are the host of the
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United We Scan podcast. Welcome back, everybody.
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Episode 38. Wow, we're moving up in the
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world, aren't we? I wanted to start off this
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episode with a post that was made in our Facebook group.
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It really hit me in the fields. This is kind of what we're all
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about, people. So this post, if you're not in
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our Facebook group, was made earlier today and it says.
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Like many others, I got caught up in the payroll issue.
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Unfortunately I just got back from Workers Workman's Comp and
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this pay was supposed to be the last of my COP and a week's
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worth from a CA-7. I've got nothing so far.
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No pay advance, no check. I've spoken to my PMADR
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district, workers Comp, payroll, and even the director for
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Workman's Comp to no avail. I've been ready to walk out the
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last three days. Somehow I keep coming back to
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the podcast and find myself willing to go another day.
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Thank you guys for doing this podcast that hit me in the
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fields, it really did. And thank you.
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This is one of the main reasons why why we do this job.
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So moving on, she is the they are the exact reason every
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single one of us is here every week doing this.
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Show the exact. I'm here for the money.
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Well I guess you're on the wrong line cuz none of us are getting
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paid. I'm still waiting.
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Don't worry, we'll double your pay next week.
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OK, can you put that in writing and round date it for me?
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Certainly, I'll even sign it too.
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I'll even sign it too. It's in the mail.
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Oh, that I don't believe. Josh, how was your week this
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week? My week is pretty good had.
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Lots of mail left over from when I was off last week and then was
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off Thursday and they barely took some of my bar codes and
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got to the argument with the 204 B over whether or not the error
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should be counted or not because she says she's not double paying
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me. I'm getting 1.7 times for it.
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We'll see how that goes, but. She did agree to give me the
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miscellaneous time that I get riding the elevator from my one
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business for Thursday at a slightly lower amount than I've
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been averaging each day, so. That's a plus.
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James, how was your weight? Oh, pretty normal.
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I pissed off a carrier in my office because I complained to
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the postmaster that they were working off the clock and so
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they want absolutely nothing to do with me anymore.
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But we were told by our director of Labor Labor Relations that we
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needed to grieve when carriers are working off the clock and
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get that taken care of before our next contract negotiations.
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So he's mad at me for something I was told to do by one of our
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union leaders, and that's fine. They can treat me like crap all
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they want as long as they follow the rules that we're supposed to
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be following and follow the contract.
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But other than that mail volumes were normal overall packages and
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and DPS was normal in my 4 trays every single day and getting
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done around the normal time every day so it wasn't too
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difficult. I was surprised at how little
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DPS errors I was having, which sounds about right for account
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for mini mail survey time frame, but other than that it was
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pretty much in normal week for me.
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Bill, how was your week there? Well, let me tell you, it was
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fabulous. Everybody worked together.
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We were cohesive, Workforce management was stupendous.
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And then I woke up and went to work.
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I was going to ask you what you were smoking and why you're not
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sharing. I'll tell you what I I sit there
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and laugh because, you know, I saw the comment about the 19%
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and I'm like, OK, how's that account for?
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532 pieces that I got for for one publication, 468 I got for
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another publication. How we got the two routes that
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got the same publication, it was categorized as WSS and the other
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16 routes got it as WSH and you know like I said I had a run in
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with the clerk over you know bringing flats over late and you
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know after we've have everything sorted up and the parcels and
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and all are done and. You know, he comes over and
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just, you know, drops his at 9:40 in the morning.
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It's like, you know, folks, you know, we're ready to either case
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the DPS and and or take it to the street.
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And this guy's wandering over his own leisure.
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So you know, it's one of those things.
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It's probably a communication error.
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It's probably that he doesn't understand my sense of humor or
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he just doesn't like me either. Or it's like James, you know, I
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don't sweat it at all. It's water off the off the
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duck's ass. But you know.
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Here we are in the mini Mail survey.
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People aren't getting paid and that's the biggest issue on the
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table right now is the pay. And folks, when we get into
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that, I'll give you my thoughts. But you know, the week per se
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was good, Good to average. Yeah, my week.
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People listening. My week wasn't too bad, actually
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had just my ox route for two days.
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How weird is that? But I'll take it Saturday,
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having to run a double and when Amazon didn't show up till 1/2
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hour after cutoff time, So deals to say that's going to get
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delivered tomorrow. So it's actually running a
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double Saturday. I was done by NO3330, so it
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wasn't that. All that of a week and the start
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of the new week. Oh, now it's been pretty much
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business as usual for me. Our carrier did retire Thursday.
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My countdown has begun. James, I'm glad that you haven't
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been having much for Dpsrs 2 two days this week.
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I had at least one tray where it looks like they after they
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loaded the tray they just picked some of the mail up and let it
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drop where it landed in the tray upside down backwards the one
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day I had. Which was last Monday.
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That was when I had 360 random letter, 60 some random letters.
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The one trade Thursday was a little over 100 errors, so it
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was fine. Speaking of you Josh, I heard
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through the I heard through the rumor.
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Mel, you have an update for us on the decertify movement and
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would you like to discuss that with the group?
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He in detail, went through. Our own opinions of
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decertification last week and you, you guys correct me if I'm
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wrong. We all are.
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One reason or another that it's bad idea.
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I did reach out to Johnny Chandler to ask him if he wanted
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to join us to tell his side of the story.
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But you know, give our listeners a chance to hear what he has to
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say and why he's pursuing and what's going on in regards to
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that I was. You know the person that I that
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knows him, that I'm friends with, so that he declined.
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So if he changes his mind, the invitation is out there.
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He just has to let me know. And we will ring to for him to
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come on and tell his side and we will not.
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We will stay negative in regards to the actual.
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We are not going to attack him. You mean neutral?
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We. I'm sorry, neutral.
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Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, neutral.
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We we will not. We will just go with the flow of
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the conversation. We are not going to berate him
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or anything. We just want to give him the
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opportunity to tell his side and why he is pursuing us, why he
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feels this is a good idea. For the craft as a whole, and as
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we say, we try to be as transparent as possible here for
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you guys. And you guys can be informed on
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both sides and understand where everything is coming from.
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Because we believe a well informed craft is the most
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important part of being part of this Union, because a well
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informed carrier is the bane of management.
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And the bane of the National Board.
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So thank you for the update, Josh on that.
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Really appreciate that. Now the next next topic I had
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put up for everybody was we did talk about the mini mail survey
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several times in the last few episodes, but there is still a
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lot of confusion out there on what to do with WSH flat.
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Bill, you want to start it out on what carriers are supposed to
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be doing with WSH plants. Oh.
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Are you talking about today or last week or the week before all
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around? All the What's supposed to be
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happening? Yeah, what's supposed to be
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happening? What the Union has said and what
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the carrier should be doing. What the union has said is that
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the WSA should be counted. What the Post Office is saying
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is the WSH is not to be counted, they don't agree to it, and
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they're supposedly at a step four in regards to resolving
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this. Unfortunately, the step fours
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have not gone our way lately. What I've told my entire office
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is that you count everything that you get.
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If it's a bundle flat, you count it.
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If there's WSH in there, count it a second time.
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If you're getting Nonlinear mail, count it.
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If you're getting Clerk mail, count it.
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If it's WSH, you're not to enter it into the scanner, but keep
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track of it for your mini mail survey disputes.
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We have the 19% added in there per the engineers in regards to
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flats, but I don't see how 538 pieces out of my 629 house route
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equals 19% Okay. Neither does the 432 pieces I
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got the next day. So, ladies and gentlemen, track
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your WSH. Track your bundles.
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If the WSH is in the bundles, segregate them again and count
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them separately. Okay.
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Because you may get credit form at the end of the, you know the
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Mini Mail survey disputes. That's not to say that the Mini
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Mail Survey disputes from the last Mini Mail Survey have been
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resolved as they have not been in my area.
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But if you don't document it, you can't get credit for it.
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As of now, WSH is not being credited by the Postal Post
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Office. Keep track of it for your own
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records. I think he said it the best.
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I can't add anything to that. Yeah, me neither.
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I'm good there. All right.
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The next one part of the mini mail survey in 52 weeks beyond
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scan parcel, still a lot of fights going on over that on on
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the social web. So anybody want to take that
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one? Ooh ooh ooh.
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Ooh, ooh me, me, me. How far it is?
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Anybody. Go ahead, Bill, go ahead.
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Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, if you
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can't stick it into the case, if it doesn't go into the the
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partition for your mail slot without you manipulating it,
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guess what? That's an unscanned parcel.
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Carrier Discretion, of course. I don't manipulate my flats.
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I don't manipulate my letters when I put them in the case.
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Ergo, henceforth, hitherto, it's an unscanned parcel.
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If I get a what, what are the catalogs?
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The Granger catalogs or one of the office supply catalogs?
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And I have one inch separations from my address and I have mail
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in there and the catalog does not go into the separation with
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the mail and the flats that are already in there.
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It's an unscanned parcel carrier discretion.
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They can argue all they want. But if it doesn't fit in the
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case, like OJ Simpson says, if it doesn't fit, you can't
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convict. So if you can't get it into the
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case without manipulating it, I think it was.
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If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
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No, I thought it was. You can't convict.
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Same thing. Either way he got, he got away
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with it. So ergo, you can get away with
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it. Now I'm going to, I'm gonna back
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up what Bill said, because it's a rigid article.
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Most likely that you're going to have an unscanned parcel on
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that's not going to fit in the case.
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It says do not bend, things like that.
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But they're also arguing that, well, it's it's a flat because
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you guys don't actually have a standard for what a what a
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parcel is anymore. Yes, you do get the clerk card.
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The clerks have a card that tells them whether it should be
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charged flat rate, a flat rate postage, or whether it's a
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parcel postage. Use that card against management
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because if they're it's designed to fit in a parcel slot, it
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doesn't fit through those slots on that card.
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Then it's got to be charged parcel rate, at least according
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to the clerks, for normal people, not for those
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advertisers that send you the what are those the dream
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catchers or things like that? But use that card because if
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they are supposed to charge posted parcel rate for it, there
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should be an unscanned parcel with no barcode on it.
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Do you know how many of those somebody sends a gift card,
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something that's non machinable, that's heavy, And I have postage
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dues for parcel weight of a gift card you're going to charge on
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post or parcel weight? Yeah, that just became an
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unscannable parcel in my book. Another tricky one is the square
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letters that have an item in there which makes non
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machinable. And they're charging them a
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parcel rate because they have to be hand canceled.
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That should also be considered an unscannable parcel.
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They're charging them parcel weight.
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That's a parcel. Yep, show me the money carrier
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discretion. Carrier discretion, yes.
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Well, I I had these Oceana cruise boat binders, whatever
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they were, and they they just wouldn't fit into the case, OK?
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I mean. You know, I could bend it at the
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top and you can hear the the cardboard binding in there pop
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and crack. So guess what folks, to me that
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became a parcel, unscanable parcel.
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And you know, I know I'm going to get rung up for it because I
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had fourteen of them and they have a a threshold of five to
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six per day and not that I know that by heart, but you know
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that's their threshold is five to six a day per route.
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And guess what? When when they question me, I'm
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going to say. Exactly.
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It didn't fit in the case. I couldn't bend it without
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breaking it, you know, destroying the item.
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And you know the same way with the diplomas or pitchers, I
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mean, you get those pictures that are coming presorted
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standard. And it says do not fold in
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somebody's baseball pitcher or their, you know, their case
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school pitchers and stuff like that.
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I mean, who's got the heart to bend them up and put them in,
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you know, in the mailbox? Even I don't.
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All right, since we're still on this touch right here a little
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bit. I just had a question come
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through on the page Direct messaging.
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This is good. I was actually going to do the
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same thing. I'll read it and let you guys
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answer it. Good afternoon.
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Please address this if possible. End of shift duties are markups
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counted in the AM or end of shift.
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I think they're supposed to be counted after the route in the
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end of shift duties time. 2nd WSH, which I believe we just
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covered. I had a set come in this past
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week, 160 WHS flats. I was told that they were not to
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be counted because they were counted in the radar numbers.
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I do have a copy of the WHS flat.
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Do I need to dispute each of these items?
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Thanks. So I'll address the WSH first
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because we just talked about it. I'll take the markups in this
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shift. Yeah, that'll work.
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The WSH, if management is not counting them, write it on your
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4240 and make sure that you notate it WSH and the number of
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it. That way when you go to dispute
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it, it'll be on your 4240 and you can submit your 4240 as the
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evidence in your dispute. And plus, it's an easy way to
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keep track of it as well. Management does not want to
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count WSH because they're being told by higher level that it's
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counted in the radar report when the shipper puts them into the
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system. But that could take a week, two
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weeks, or to be in there. And they may not actually put in
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the correct number that they actually sent the people either.
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There's a lot of chances for errors to occur in this system
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and I've I've personally found that the radar report is off by
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2530% of what I'm actually getting overall.
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So it's best that you notate that on your 4240 and then
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dispute it at the end of the mini mail survey when they allow
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dispute forms to be submitted again.
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Go ahead, Josh. What's the other part?
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Okay. Well with the rec system not
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doing the survey you get. It's a timed event during end of
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shift to separate your markups, which means you don't.
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Yeah, the different during the survey.
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You're not getting a Bund 1 bundle for UBV, M1 bundle for
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forward, one bundle for this or that, a NKUGF.
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You get the piece count for all your DPS errors.
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Most a lot of carriers take their D PS:.
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To the street, so they wouldn't have that.
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So they get back to count anyway, which falls under your
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end of trip if you case your D PS:.
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You could do it either way. Personally I would rubber band
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it, take it for a ride, and when you come back, count out the
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pieces during end of show. I have to agree.
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I take my DPS to the street, so when I get back I as I separate
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and everything and then I just count it all together and then I
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just I separate into my piles as I'm counting it all together
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that way once I am. Give them my count numbers, I
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can then just take care of it accordingly.
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And I take my DPS to the street most often and so I submit my
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upside down backwards mail number and then do my DPS errors
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as part of my end of shift. So, Yep, yeah.
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And it was commented that you could do markups morning and at
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end of shift. I mean, if stuff comes in my raw
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mail or my flats that's a markup, then yeah, you know,
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stuff that's already counted for the day, then yeah, I'll do
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those in the morning before I leave.
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And then stuff I pull out of my DPS throughout the day.
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I do when I get back, but again, I take DPS to the street.
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So if I was casing it, I'd probably rubber band it and like
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James said, take it for, excuse me, Josh said take it for a ride
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and bring it back and go. Then get the end of shift time
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with it. And and if you don't think they
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they have thresholds already manufactured in regards to your
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errors, your upside downs, everything else that they they
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want to challenge us and and basically berate us about.
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We had a carrier who had two entire trays of D PS:.
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Upside down. They didn't want to give him
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credit for it. They actually accused him of
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flipping the D PS:. This is how this is how
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ridiculous management is they? They actually accused him of
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flipping the DPS upside down into another tray when he when
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he and since I'm the decertified steward in the office he called
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me over he goes, Bill explain to him explain to him and I turned
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around and I I spun the the tray around and I says well hold it
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here's the tag I pulled it out As for his route, As for today,
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I said so where's the tray? He flipped it upside down
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because how many times are you going to flip it upside down and
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have it in the tray correctly? And they're like, you know,
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they're like what? And I said you think he switched
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the tags, you know, and and I wouldn't put anything past some
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of the carriers and you know that.
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I know. But you know this guy just
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walked from the DPS area over to his case and and called the
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supervisor over. So you know, of course they're
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going to argue about it. You know, is it suspicious?
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Does it happen? Yes.
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Yeah. I Tuesday I couple of us routes
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had quite a few of our ubums brought back because well, those
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that have Spectrum know how that goes when you know you're
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bringing back 150 to 175 because those addresses don't exist or
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they don't have mailboxes, yeah, yeah.
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And one of the tricks I've I've learned to do is because of
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management challenging you in regards to counting the WSHS or
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your bundles and stuff like that.
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I count it as I throw it so that they they don't actually see me
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physically counting the stuff without working the mail and and
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you know it's it saves me a little bit of time but you know
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that's a little trick you can use just to get get them off
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their back because. They've come over and questioned
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people, you know, where are you putting down your count time?
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And one carrier says, well, I'm putting it down as my break
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time. After the supervisor left, I
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went over to smack them and say what the Hell's wrong with you,
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you know, really, you know? But then again you know this is
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the same carrier says well how do we endorse certifieds we
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didn't deliver Okay. I'm, I'm done.
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I I had an ank the other day for a certified, you know, it was in
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my DPS. Put the the picture and the and
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a quick video clip of me rippling through the one tray
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that I had the other day that supervisor give me a hard time
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about in the chat. See, I I actually went to the
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sporting goods store and bought myself a pitch counter.
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And I just sit there and as I'm throwing stuff, I'm actually
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clicking it on the pitch counter, so it's in my hand.
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It's kind of hidden in my hand if anybody's looking at me from
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behind and I'm just clicking in case.
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And as I go alone to count. Yeah, I said I don't you know, I
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take my DPS to the street. So for my inverteds I I have a.
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Actually I have two different tap counters on my phone, so you
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know, flipping through my DPS and if I have two 3-4 pieces I
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when I toss it in the box I tap that you know for however many
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inverted I have. That way I've got the total at
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the end of the day and if it's like yesterday where I'm running
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2 routes, then when I switch over to the other route I switch
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over to the other counter so I have both of them available when
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I get back to the office. I did download one of those apps
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last time and tried it out. I know a few people that use
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that. I just couldn't get to the
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groove, so I just do like we did in the old.
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Now I had A tag sitting there and every time I have it
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inverted, I just put a tack and you know, I keep track.
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It's a bundle in my hand and then just put the tat, you know,
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the hats, marks, you know. And then when I get to the fifth
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one, cross it out and just keep going and tally them up and I'm
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done. Yeah, we've got, we've got some
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that do the Taily marks too. I tried that once, but then the
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song Wipeout came out with a drum.
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Yeah, so. And I end up with 11104
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inverted. You know, I think my most this
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week was 80. So 20 as a raw count, Yeah, I
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think that was the most I had this week for one one route.
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I only had 41 yesterday and I might get four or five sometimes
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up to 8 on my OX route maybe. So my numbers on my ox route you
26:18
know like fill you know for the the raw mail is usually always
26:21
one or two miss sequenced or whatever And then my inverted
26:26
you know sometimes it's zero sometimes I have zeros across
26:29
the board. Cuz that route so small, when
26:31
you only have a handful of DPS, you're not getting much.
26:34
Well, I'm I'm averaging about 2400 a day for DPS.
26:39
Got a high of 3500 on Monday? And a low of 18 on Saturday.
26:46
So yeah it when it comes inverted I'm averaging you know
26:52
100 plus pieces a day you know and then my my miss sorts miss
26:58
sense and everything else. But you know, I I I'm over 100
27:03
every day too And it's like you know it's ridiculous.
27:06
Of course when you got your A and K on A certified, you did
27:09
you did scan it right. Oh yeah.
27:12
I scanned it as I went to attempt to deliver it and he's
27:15
like, yeah, no, nobody by that name lives here, OK, That's all
27:19
I need to know. He's like, if it's not my name
27:22
on it, I'm not signing anything. Not a problem.
27:25
And we'll send it back. And you got the scan credit?
27:28
Yes, absolutely. What do you got next, James?
27:31
Now come on, get to the juicy one.
27:33
Get to the juicy one. We'll get there.
27:35
We'll get there. I got a couple more topics
27:37
before that, but we'll get there.
27:39
I know everybody's, everybody's biting their nails to see what
27:43
happens. But First off, I wanted to talk
27:46
about natural disasters. You know, we had the wildfires
27:51
in Hawaii and then we had the hurricane come up through
27:55
California and then the one come up through Florida into the
27:59
Southeast states. So the biggest question people
28:03
have is why isn't management shutting the office?
28:08
When the states are shutting the roads and and blocking people
28:11
from actually getting to work or going to their homes and then if
28:15
you go into work and you get stranded because trees have
28:18
fallen on the way out from the post office, why isn't
28:21
management calling off these carrier?
28:23
Somebody has to answer that without profanity, which
28:26
eliminates me. Yeah, I can't.
28:28
I can't even fathom or try and guess why they wouldn't make
28:35
that doesn't. Fall.
28:36
I will make it. I'll make it.
28:39
I'm gonna jump in here real quick with a prime example.
28:43
This was sent to me via via private message to my personal
28:50
page. So I am going to bring this up
28:54
here real quick, make sure I got the right one.
28:56
All right. Yeah, I'll talk while I find
28:58
this. Bring that up and then I'll talk
29:01
about why I believe they did not call him off.
29:06
And one of the biggest things that I've heard at anytime
29:09
dealing with natural disasters or weather related issues is
29:15
they want to see if one carrier can make it in.
29:18
Then they don't have to pay any of the carriers that say I I
29:22
can't come in because of the weather.
29:24
So they turn around and they say, well, we're still open,
29:27
We're still throwing mail. We're still doing this.
29:29
We're still doing that to see if carriers will risk their safety.
29:34
To go into the post office to do their job.
29:37
It's a way to save on payroll. Because if they actually call
29:39
the people off, they have to pay the people, they have to pay the
29:42
regular carriers, they have to pay the clerks, they have to pay
29:47
everybody. But if one person makes it into
29:50
that office and everybody else says no, it's too dangerous.
29:54
The people that said no, it's too dangerous won't get paid.
29:57
The carrier that showed up will. So it's a carrier.
29:59
Discretion. Your safety is the most
30:02
important thing, remember, like Bill says.
30:04
You're the most important delivery of the day.
30:06
Make sure you get home to your family safely.
30:08
But there are some postmasters that will call up their district
30:13
manager and say, hey, we have a hurricane coming through and
30:18
they're closing all the roads around here and the district
30:20
manager will say no, they still have to work and they have to
30:24
default to their supervisor or else they could get reprimanded
30:28
or fired. So there's a lot of lot of
30:31
intricacies to it. So go ahead, Kristen.
30:34
All right, so this is what came to me, says Christian.
30:37
So this is a carrier out of Florida, survived the hurricane
30:42
but had to go into the office against my better judgment, just
30:46
to be turned around by officers because main road wasn't
30:50
passable. We had to scan all packages out
30:53
on the street as delayed due to weather return to office, cased
30:58
up today's mail, then ended tour, pulled rejects, holds,
31:01
etcetera out of DPS. Got account.
31:04
Now what happens? This is such a mess.
31:06
Not real sure we'll be able to deliver 100% tomorrow.
31:09
Lots of trees and power lines down.
31:11
Turned real bad real fast. Has to be one of the dumbest
31:14
decisions in my 28 years a post office has ever done.
31:18
Please advise. I'll let you guys take that and
31:21
I'll be right back. Unless you've had a chance to
31:23
think about what you wanted to say.
31:25
And you do it, Bill. This is one of them situations
31:30
where you know, if management told me to take the parcels out
31:34
in the street to scan them and bring them back, I I'd get in
31:38
trouble real fast and explain to them that you know I'm not
31:42
falsifying the information, period.
31:45
If they want me to do that then I'll I'll have them put it in
31:47
writing sign it round day. But I'm not going out on the
31:51
street, you know, outside the geofensive of the post office.
31:55
To scan parcels because of a natural disaster or weather
31:59
related event. As far as the rest of the mail
32:02
is concerned, I would turn around and have the lesser of
32:06
the DPS the following day that you can work counted as raw mail
32:11
and credited. If they don't want to give it to
32:14
you, you keep a record of it and use that year mini mail survey
32:18
dispute. You should be getting credit for
32:20
that because you're not getting paid for the hours.
32:24
You know, do a double set. Other than that, I I can't help
32:28
but wonder why anybody would want to be a postmaster
32:32
supervisor 204 B, and work under the district management that
32:36
threatens them with their livelihood, to follow rules and
32:40
regulations. That puts carriers or clerks or
32:43
custodians or anybody else you know at risk for their job.
32:49
We're not paid for an at risk job.
32:52
We're not firefighters, we're not policemen.
32:55
We're not EM T's or paramedics. We shouldn't be putting our
32:59
asses out on the line. This is just a job and if you
33:04
die the next day, they'll have somebody, in that case the
33:07
following day. So don't risk your health, your
33:11
life for the job if they do have a situation where they're going
33:16
to tell you to. Take it outside the geofence.
33:19
Like I said, put it in writing, sign it round stamp it, then put
33:23
it with the mini mail, survey dispute or grievance.
33:27
And then also fill out a 1767 safety hazard form because they
33:32
want you to go out and hurricane force winds and scan these
33:35
parcels as weather delay and you're sitting in a postal truck
33:39
in the weather trying to scan all these parcels.
33:42
You shouldn't do that. That's just dumb on management
33:46
to make you do that. Now you know, notice that that
33:50
the the basics of our service, the mail is not a concern to
33:53
them, just the parcels. Well, yeah, because they can
33:56
track the parcels with the barcodes.
33:58
Yep. That's why if they had barcodes
34:01
on all the mail, we'd have to scan every single envelope.
34:03
Imagine how long your day would be with that.
34:05
Well, if I was going out in the hurricane, I'd take my DPS,
34:08
throw it out the window, and see if you'd qualify for airmail.
34:14
Just. Just one.
34:16
Just once it probably would deliver itself, but so one of
34:25
our listeners just posted a question on Wednesday.
34:29
We had no mail except newspapers due to the hurricane.
34:33
We went home at 10:00 AM. It was common said that the mail
34:36
would balance out the rest of the week.
34:39
The mail Thursday and Friday was just usual average mail.
34:42
Can anything be done well? We don't know what the plants
34:46
are doing. Yeah, they're one of those
34:48
mystical little beings that we know nothing about.
34:53
Even management doesn't know what the plant does.
34:55
But hopefully it will eventually, eventually all flow
35:00
through. But I'm sure there were delays
35:02
and things like that, and they're probably holding trucks
35:04
and stuff like that. So we don't know exactly what's
35:06
going on in the plants, but hopefully eventually that mail
35:08
will get through. And then another person asked,
35:11
does management get paid regardless if they show up or
35:14
not during a national disaster? Yep, they get paid.
35:17
They could be at home, yeah, their salary.
35:20
They could be at home. Get paid for it, somebody said.
35:24
So the response to the Wednesday one It'll come in after mail
35:27
count. I'll bet my $0.00 check on it.
35:31
I'll put my $0.00 check up on it.
35:34
There we go. All right.
35:35
Now before we get into that. We're going to talk.
35:39
What you were saying about with that mythical place hasn't the
35:44
black hole? Yes, yes, that's it.
35:46
Hasn't anyone taught you the plant can do no raw?
35:50
Oh yeah, I know. Sorry, I'm off myself.
35:53
Box now. So before we get into those
35:58
$0.00 paychecks, there's one last topic I had listed.
36:04
There are a couple more topics I had listed, but first one is.
36:08
UPS&UAW and what that means to us.
36:12
So the first thing I'm going to do before we get into talking
36:15
about this is talk about 39 United States Code, subsection
36:23
101, specifically section C As an employer, the Postal Service
36:30
shall achieve and maintain compensation for its officers
36:35
and employees comparable. So the rates and types of
36:38
compensation paid in the private sector of the economy of the
36:42
United States, it showplace this particular emphasis on
36:47
opportunities for career advancements of all officers and
36:50
employees and the achievement of worthwhile and satisfying
36:53
careers in the service of the United States.
36:56
So UAW and Ford had a contract put in front of them.
37:03
Ford presented a contract to them.
37:06
We posted it. On the group and on our page and
37:10
UAW turned around and placed it in the circular filing bin next
37:15
to their desk because it wasn't good and many of our listeners
37:19
have commented that it wasn't good and we agree with them.
37:22
But what this means is the UPS, UAW and others that are having
37:28
their contract negotiations right now.
37:30
Can benefit us in contract negotiations as long as our
37:34
union stands up and fights for what's right for us.
37:38
So we need to keep monitoring these contract negotiations
37:42
amongst these other private companies to see if we can
37:46
benefit our contract starting February.
37:50
Your thoughts, Josh? As much as I agree with you,
37:54
unfortunately we got to look a little closer to home.
37:58
And see what they offered me. Any else agreed.
38:02
Because I'll guarantee we won't get much more than that.
38:09
That's just my personal thought. I'll bet you your $0.00 check on
38:13
that too, and given the issues that NALC has been having with
38:20
their upper echelon, I don't think they're gonna get much.
38:24
You can follow along at From 8 Arbitration Podcast.
38:28
Hear what's going on over there, Bill, your thoughts?
38:32
My my deepest concern is that being a government agency that
38:39
even though you know you quoted a very logical section in
38:44
regards to paying us compensory with, you know private industry,
38:49
that the argument is that you know, we're not private
38:52
industry. I I would then argue, well, how
38:55
do these people go in? As senators and come out 20
38:58
years later as multimillionaires, you know,
39:00
they go in broken, come out multimillionaires.
39:04
My personal thought is that we are operating from a very weak
39:09
position as a union to negotiate.
39:13
I believe our board is not capable of representing us in a
39:20
fashion that we would seem equitable to our efforts.
39:25
Everybody's forgotten about the two years of COVID that, you
39:27
know, we suffered through and everybody you knows basically
39:32
sweated through, you know, putting their lives and their
39:34
family's lives in jeopardy, taking care of the country.
39:37
But I digress. I don't, I don't have any faith
39:41
in our national board. So therefore I don't expect much
39:45
regardless of what the NLAC does to me.
39:48
It it's a situation where we're going to go 111, you know and
39:53
you know. To get get our cola, keep our
39:55
cola and everybody should be happy about that.
39:58
I just think everybody that's involved in our podcast needs to
40:02
get their their case neighbors involved, get their friends
40:07
involved, that they are union friends with nonunion friends,
40:11
get them involved. We need everybody that's in this
40:14
union, in this craft to step up and make a choice when they
40:19
bring this contract down to us because.
40:23
That is your money they're messing with in this contract
40:27
and you need to be involved. Just like I said the other
40:30
podcast, I'm challenging everybody to get involved
40:33
because that's our only way of making sure that we get what we
40:37
need in this next contract. It's the only way to ensure that
40:41
we get what we need out of our national board and out of this
40:45
union as a whole, is participation.
40:49
But. Weren't the past five years all
40:51
just easy money for us? Yeah, they didn't have to spend
40:54
any money on national conventions.
40:57
But, but wasn't that in a statement put out by our none
41:01
other president of the union when he was talking about the
41:06
how easy we had at the last five years since the last mail count
41:11
before Rex went into effect? And the rapid decline in volume
41:17
and. On average across the country it
41:21
was only 2.8 hours lost. But, but we had it so easy, but
41:27
was it COVID right in the middle of that And I'm sorry, the level
41:31
of packages that we still have today on a daily basis, it was
41:36
Christmas levels prior to COVID. So don't even tell me about how
41:41
easy we've had it. Kristen, are you criticizing our
41:47
national award? Who got to stay home for two
41:49
years and not go through elections, not to go through
41:53
national conventions, not have to travel around the country and
41:57
leave their families while making six figure salaries is?
42:00
Are you suggesting they had it easy?
42:03
Absolutely. Oh, OK.
42:05
They may have had it easy, but every damn carrier in the office
42:09
with their boots on the ground did not have it easy.
42:12
Well, maybe they were confused. Well, they didn't want to drive
42:15
the 320 miles to deliver their route.
42:19
Oh, this is N California Sonoma. Yeah, oops, they left it on.
42:25
They left it on the Subs 2 Subs a day to run their route.
42:29
There is 4 vacant routes from that office and there's only
42:32
four Rca's. Now we get into the elephant
42:38
slash Mastodon, since we only have one this time of A room.
42:45
Now his name's Mastin Mastson. Are we digging the rabbit hole?
42:53
Let's talk about the pay shortage that just occurred.
42:57
Now, I've gotten it through multiple sources that the reason
43:02
why this pay shortage happened was because when they were
43:07
trying to upload Rmss to tax, which is apparently their
43:12
payroll system, they took tax offline.
43:17
The computer system was getting an update when the royal
43:20
paychecks were going into them. Now, I don't know what IT
43:24
department you have running up in the national office, but I'm
43:28
going to tell you that when you're messing with payroll, you
43:31
should probably do it on a week. When payroll's not being pulled,
43:35
you should do it the week prior or the week after, not the week
43:38
that it's happening. Not the day it's happening.
43:42
Not the exact day that everything's being pulled into
43:45
that system and needs to be pulled into that system so
43:48
carriers can get paid. You made a dumb mistake.
43:51
You made a rookie mistake. And I mean, considering you're
43:54
using a system that was probably built in the 80s to run this
43:57
stuff, you should know better. All right?
44:01
This has been around long enough.
44:02
You should know better. I'm going to ask amongst the
44:05
four of us who all was affected by this?
44:09
I was. I was.
44:11
I wasn't. I was.
44:12
I was not. All right.
44:14
So we're 5050 right here, 2 for two.
44:17
I was affected as an RCA. I received a partial check.
44:21
I received. Now that first week of that
44:23
check we all know was National Convention.
44:25
I had put annual. I had work that's that first
44:28
Saturday I had ran my primary and my ox route and I had put
44:32
annual leave in for the rest of the week.
44:34
And then when I got back I ran five and then Monday I ran four
44:39
And then I'm just trying to remember what I was doing.
44:43
But I had and then I worked my primary again on Wednesday.
44:47
I got paid and I ran my ox route on Friday, just my ox route.
44:52
So I ran my OX route three times in those two weeks.
44:55
I did not get paid for my ox route one bit.
44:58
Well that's right, I had Oji on Monday and Tuesday and I did
45:02
mapping facilitator Tuesday afternoon.
45:04
So none of my green car time, which was about 20 hours worth
45:07
for two days. None of my Ox route, none of my
45:10
overtime. And my annual leave for some
45:13
reason got switched from an A to an N.
45:15
So I had a lovely $432.00 paycheck Friday, which after my
45:20
bills that were coming out Friday hit.
45:21
I have $4.00 left to my name. I did decline the money order,
45:25
but that's my own personal making.
45:28
But yeah, I was affected. No green card time.
45:31
The other two Rca's in my office.
45:33
Again, no green card time or overtime.
45:36
And the one borrowed RCA only was paid for the route in his
45:41
Home Office that he ran none of his time in our office.
45:45
I have friends at my old office that have reached out to me and
45:48
nobody in that office got paid as well as the office just north
45:53
of that and one not too far West of there as well received zero
45:56
paycheck. Now all the regulars in my
45:58
office were properly paid. So Kristen, just out of
46:01
curiosity, I know you said you declined the advance.
46:05
How close the amount they were going to advance you of
46:08
estimating? How close would that have been
46:11
to your actual net if it wasn't screwed up?
46:14
Include if. He added that to 400.
46:16
It would have been. It was fairly close, It was 500
46:20
and something, but I think that was without my annual leave as
46:23
well. But I only had.
46:24
I think I was only taking about 16 hours worth of annual leave
46:27
throughout the week. So OK, I know at my station I
46:31
don't think anybody got paid. The girl in the case next to me
46:34
talks, has friends and other stations and I know she said the
46:40
one person that she talked to, they got their regular check but
46:44
their code fives working, their kday didn't show up.
46:47
It's just really, I did take the advance because the fact that,
46:52
well, my account was already defeated because my wife works
46:56
for the school district, so. What she does work over the
47:00
summer is at a lower pay rate at bus out so she get school.
47:05
Just started back up so next Friday is her first full day.
47:09
So I needed it so I could cover my bills and unfortunately I
47:13
didn't get the money orders until after the bank.
47:16
Was Friday. My wife dropped it off Saturday
47:19
because like, they put a hold on money orders until they actually
47:23
know the funds are good. I probably went to that money in
47:27
my account until Tuesday morning.
47:29
And I've that's been a big issue with a lot of people with the
47:31
money orders too, as the banks holding on to him.
47:34
I saw where I saw a post earlier today where someone was asking
47:39
for their sub if you if anybody knew where you could go to catch
47:43
them, Yeah, because cheating. The RCA didn't get her mind
47:48
orders until Saturday. At some point after it was too
47:52
late to get to the bank before they closed and because of the
47:55
amount she couldn't get them back and no one would cash
47:58
because it was too high of a number.
48:00
Party stores will. Some party stores that have
48:02
check cashing will actually cash.
48:04
I know she in the post it said something about she went to a
48:08
couple grocery stores and a couple other places that do
48:11
check cashing and they wouldn't. You know, because it was that
48:14
$1000 Max on the money order. It would.
48:16
They wouldn't. Have well, my personal My
48:19
personal bank won't cash a USPS money order for three days.
48:25
My personal bank, even though I've got the money, you know,
48:29
they cover it and all. They won't cash them at all
48:31
because there's so much fraud involved with the USPS money
48:35
orders, but all all our regulars were paid.
48:39
Except for the ones who assisted on other routes that those hours
48:42
they never got paid for. So there was some some type of
48:45
trigger in there that you know, got the arts, the Ptf's, the
48:51
Rca's and any additional green card time was basically, you
48:56
know, milch through the system. The ad hoc time, yeah.
49:00
Yeah, what what really gets me is that several years ago, the
49:04
union pointed out. The age of the Postal Service
49:08
servers in relation to all the money they make and every all
49:12
the investments they're making, as the Joy says, into growing
49:16
into the future. And we have outdated servers
49:19
that we're using for payroll as well as, you know, recording all
49:22
our data in the in the Rex program.
49:25
Yep, and that's why it takes them so long to calculate
49:27
everything out. That's why it.
49:28
Takes so long for our back pay for anything, you know.
49:32
And yeah, this is yeah, I chose not to take the money order.
49:35
That still means my cell phone payment's going to be late.
49:38
Even if I did take it, my car payment would have been late.
49:42
My car insurance is going to be late.
49:44
Just going to pay it when I get my next full check.
49:48
Not much I can do outside of that.
49:51
And how convenience was it at the beginning of the month too?
49:55
And Labor Day weekend. Yeah.
49:59
I've seen, I've seen that that, yeah, I've seen that meme going
50:02
around about, you know, great to have a three day weekend on the
50:06
the brokest weekend there is. Yeah, I I have to agree.
50:12
Oh yeah, it's going around. I'll find it.
50:14
Now, there was discussions and a lot of Facebook groups of people
50:19
calling in saying I'm out of gas, I can't come to work or I'm
50:23
calling off until I get paid, things like that.
50:25
Now if you go and listen to From 8 Arbitration, Corey actually
50:30
talks about city carriers who got fired for calling off to
50:34
protest because their cars were getting broken into in front of
50:38
the believe it was the Memphis post office and they were
50:41
protesting it and so they called in sick and they did a sick out.
50:45
And it was in their parking lot. Yeah, it was their parking lot
50:49
that their cars were getting broken into.
50:51
Yeah. And stolen.
50:52
And they were getting stuff stolen.
50:53
Their cars were getting stolen, everything.
50:55
And so they actually planned a sick out.
50:59
And through the investigations of the Inspection Service and
51:03
the postmasters and interviewing all the people involved in this,
51:07
they actually fired all of them. And there are two important laws
51:11
that we have to remember when discussing these things, even
51:15
online, even joking about it. And that is 5.
51:18
United States Code, subsection 7311 and that authorizes the
51:24
Office of Personnel Management to blacklist any federal
51:28
employee, and that includes Postal Service from any federal
51:32
service for discussing, striking or any other form of calling off
51:37
or slow down and stuff like that.
51:39
And then there is 18 USC subsection 1918, which makes it
51:45
a felony punishable by up to $1000 fine and one year and one
51:51
day in a federal prison, which also would blacklist you from
51:55
federal employment because you now have a felony on your right.
51:57
So talking about it on social media, discussing it with other
52:01
people and trying to get people to go along with it could get
52:05
you fire. And trust me, if the Inspection
52:07
Service gets involved in it, they will do the paperwork right
52:10
and your union won't be able to do anything about.
52:13
Corey said that specifically on his podcast they the NALC could
52:17
not do anything to protect those carriers jobs.
52:20
Well, all the four he talked about four of the cases where
52:23
they all they went to arbitration.
52:25
All four of them were different arbitrators and all four
52:29
arbitrators denied groups. Leaving them under, you know,
52:33
leaving them terminated, Yeah. And they did the process the
52:36
right way. They went all the way up to
52:37
arbitration. And it's not going to save you
52:41
because the inspection service is a police agency and they are
52:46
well known for their documentation.
52:48
They're not like a postmaster who can screw up documentation.
52:51
They they cross their T's and dot their I's on every paperwork
52:54
that they do because that's their only job.
52:56
Their job is to make reports and investigate.
52:59
That's it. I'm gonna add in why this is at
53:03
the top of my head at the moment.
53:04
It took for something like this to happen for the national board
53:08
to realize that there was nothing in black and white about
53:11
the EMA being paid out when something like this happens.
53:15
Yeah, well how could they not know about it?
53:30
That's why they. It's been going on for 30 plus
53:18
years. Oh, that's right.
53:21
They have all the experience. Remember, that's what they tell
53:24
all their experience on the national board at their state
53:27
levels. That their, their.
53:31
Didn't know about. It so you what?
53:32
Not that I like to use it, but I'm glad I have a credit card
53:35
because otherwise even simple things like yes, in the car,
53:39
food on the table would not have happened.
53:41
Yeah, you know, and I just, I read, actually read a report
53:45
about people who are living paycheck to paycheck.
53:48
And the interesting thing about it is that in our pay bracket,
53:54
you know those earning less than 50,000 annually are 78% of the
53:59
population And those that are earning 50 to 100,000, which is
54:04
where a lot of your world carriers, regular world carriers
54:08
are 65% are living paycheck to paycheck across the nation.
54:13
Now when you jump up to more than $100,000 annually, it's
54:18
43%. So even people who are living at
54:21
$100,000 annually are still living paycheck to paycheck
54:24
under half. But it's still a lot of people.
54:26
And that's what a lot of people don't understand why people are
54:29
so upset about this. Because most of the people are
54:32
living paycheck to paycheck, especially in the Postal
54:35
Service, Because we definitely don't make enough money.
54:37
Then you got to think about, you know, where you know everybody
54:40
makes the same across the board, with a couple of exceptions.
54:45
If you're a 40K in West Virginia, you're making the same
54:50
amount. Is that 40K?
54:52
In California or in New York, cost of living, cost of living
54:58
is completely different in all three places.
55:01
And so, yeah, there is going to be spot, even table wines, upper
55:05
steps on table, one of people that may be living paycheck to
55:08
paycheck because of the cost of living in their area and they
55:12
don't understand. Yeah, yeah, it does.
55:14
I mean, you got, I've heard 45,000, I've heard 54,000.
55:18
So I'm going to round it down the middle to 50, you know, in
55:21
the middle to 50,000 people that were affected roughly.
55:24
That's nearly half the craft. I think it was 50 or 45,000
55:29
carriers affected with a total of $54,000,000 in and payroll.
55:36
But you guys still think about that's still just under half of
55:40
the entire craft whose pay was messed up in one way or another.
55:44
All right, but hold on. So let's use those numbers real
55:47
quick. 45,000 carriers with $54,000,000 in revenue.
55:52
And then the corporate communication yesterday morning
55:54
was what for the quarter, the post office had $18.6 billion in
55:59
revenue. Yeah, that was another slap in
56:02
the damn face. Yep, leave their time around.
56:05
That was just not quite right. Yeah, that was also for June.
56:09
So it also shows you how slow their computers are that they
56:12
didn't get that out until now and that was from June.
56:15
The second quarter, yeah, yeah, whatever quarter it was, it
56:19
would have been the fourth quarter, but yeah.
56:21
I meant we slowed the roll on the electric vehicles and put
56:24
some money into the system. You know, get some new servers,
56:28
you know, get get into maybe like the 20th century, if not
56:31
the 21st. OK, why don't we do that, folks?
56:35
Why don't we get the scanners, you know, corrected so that our,
56:39
you know, data and our bread crumbs are recorded correctly?
56:42
Regardless of whether there's cell towers in the area or not,
56:45
how about mapping the damn routes before you start your
56:48
second mini mail survey? How about that, folks?
56:52
You're asking too much, Bill. They want to put them all in the
56:54
PD&C's first, then they'll do the the vehicles and then
56:58
they'll do the fixing of the. How about how about taking care
57:01
of the people who've been carrying your ass for the last
57:03
five years, huh? How about that, folks?
57:05
Yeah. It's directed to you.
57:09
It says Microsoft 95 still works great.
57:12
Oh I I gotta get that update. I'm still on 3.1.
57:16
What the heck? Actually, 95 was probably one of
57:20
the most stable windows there was, but.
57:23
Yeah. It's the.
57:26
West Desktop I had was running off of me so well you know that
57:30
the Postal Service is running off of Vista.
57:33
The worst platform ever from Microsoft is Vista.
57:36
Yeah, yeah. Oh God, yes.
57:38
Yeah, I think my wife just had her computer at work replaced
57:42
and it was working off of seven. The one they took away because,
57:47
and the only reason they replaced that one from the one
57:50
she had before that was because it no longer would take updates.
57:54
So yeah, when you're running off of in both as servers and
58:00
software and people's schedule upgrades updates when payroll is
58:05
supposed to be submitted, yeah. That's I'm going to keep my
58:09
mouth shut at the moment. You having a bill moment?
58:15
I'm, you know, Crown goes really well with cran apple juice.
58:20
I'm going to put it that way. Crown apple.
58:22
Yeah, I'm enjoying it. I want royalties from Crown, OK?
58:27
I'm telling you, man, can they sponsor us way too much?
58:33
Yeah. But no, we just do this.
58:35
We do this out of our own volition to help the road craft
58:38
and bringing topics that are important to the room carriers
58:42
out there. And that's why we spend our time
58:45
looking at what people are talking about on social media
58:47
and what the interesting things are that's going on in the
58:50
world. Craft everyone of our listeners
58:51
out There is an integral part of this podcast because you guys
58:55
are the ones that bring us the information that we talk about
58:58
every week. We don't know what's going on in
59:00
every corner of this country, and nobody anywhere can know
59:05
everything that's going on in all parts of this country, but
59:08
we can get that information from the people that are in those
59:11
parts of the country. The thing about it is, is we are
59:14
here for our podcast fans, we're here for our non podcast fans.
59:20
We're here for the people who don't like the podcast and send
59:24
us fan mail. Hey, and any time that any one
59:26
of them wants to step up and come on, they're more than
59:29
welcome to reach out and say, hey, we have something to say.
59:32
You know what, go right ahead. We'll let you have the
59:34
microphone and it'll be all you. But yeah.
59:36
Whoa, whoa. You know, it's we'll be neutral
59:40
with you as well, just like we would be with the Decertify guy,
59:43
because we want transparency in the craft.
59:46
So if you want to come up and bring transparency to the craft
59:49
on our podcast, you're more than welcome to join us.
59:52
We welcome any of the Naughty 9 to this podcast.
59:56
You know who you are. That's the one.
59:58
They picked the brokest weekend to give us a three day weekend.
1:00:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will concur on that.
1:00:04
But I did sell my POV so. That was the highlight of my
1:00:08
weekend. It's gone.
1:00:09
Didn't get much for it, but it's gone.
1:00:11
Somebody just commented it's time for Ronnie to come on.
1:00:14
Since he is retired, he can talk and not get decertified.
1:00:20
Well, welcome Ronnie on. He's more than welcome to come
1:00:23
on and talk about his time through the system and what has
1:00:26
changed over the time that he's done it and anything he wants to
1:00:30
talk about. We have absolutely no problem
1:00:32
with that. Any one of them can come on at
1:00:34
any time. Not a problem.
1:00:36
You know, we like to be interactive.
1:00:38
That's we. That's why we started doing the
1:00:40
live listenins on the stage because we like to be
1:00:43
interactive. We don't necessarily have the
1:00:45
time allowed us to actually do a live broadcast.
1:00:48
But you know, we try to be as interactive as we can, Even if
1:00:51
that means, you know, going through emails and answering
1:00:54
those questions or questions that may pop up on our comments
1:00:58
sections on our podcasts or, you know, special private messages
1:01:04
that get sent to us. We try to.
1:01:06
Be audio, audio comments, audio comments.
1:01:09
We get we've. Had a few.
1:01:11
Yes, we have. We have.
1:01:14
Like to Or even certified mail? Yes.
1:01:16
Had a couple of those too, haven't we?
1:01:18
Yeah. Well, some of us have.
1:01:21
Yeah. It's yeah, I just this has been
1:01:28
you know, that's why I entitled this what a week it's been
1:01:30
because it's just you know, we're in the middle of a count
1:01:33
or at a holiday weekend and oops, almost half of us didn't
1:01:37
get paid or paid correctly. So on that note we are going to
1:01:41
start winding it down for the night.
1:01:43
I do have to work for two hours tomorrow since Amazon didn't
1:01:47
show up before cutoff time yesterday.
1:01:49
I guess we are getting tasked with delivering that after I
1:01:52
brought up the point of we can't case all the flats because you
1:01:56
have to count them, the hand slurted stuff.
1:01:58
So how are we supposed to do that if there's nobody here to
1:02:01
count them? And then I got the oh, I guess
1:02:03
you guys can deliver the Amazon that didn't go out today.
1:02:07
OK, I'll do that because Tuesday is going to be rough anyways.
1:02:10
So I have a specific question for my office.
1:02:13
OK, And I want you guys to give me your feedback.
1:02:17
We have a convicted, twice convicted killer on the loose
1:02:21
that's affecting four of our routes, three of which couldn't
1:02:23
deliver some of their route. Over the last three days,
1:02:27
including parcels. So come Tuesday, if they still
1:02:29
don't have this guy caught, how the hell they going to pay them
1:02:33
for three days of backed up mail in the sections they couldn't
1:02:36
deliver? Because nobody in our office has
1:02:39
a clue and I'm sitting there going everything less than the
1:02:43
DPS that you have that day. Is going to be raw mail credit.
1:02:47
I would say yes, and that's you. I would have to agree.
1:02:50
I mean that was, you know, I had a couple weeks ago where they
1:02:53
had the fugitive for Florida loose on my route.
1:02:57
I had no clue other than seeing the two State Cup cars and
1:03:00
inconspicuously parked off on one of the side roads and
1:03:03
noticed that they were wearing camo.
1:03:05
And I'm like, oh, they must be looking for somebody.
1:03:07
And everything went down after I was done with the route, but
1:03:11
they literally apprehended the guy on a foot chase in the
1:03:14
backyard of one of my customers when he was one of the most
1:03:17
wanted guys out of Florida. Yeah, the the most discerning
1:03:20
aspect of this whole situation. The guy actually was gone for
1:03:25
four hours before they noticed him missing.
1:03:27
Then they put out alerts to everybody.
1:03:29
How many MDD scanner text messages do you think management
1:03:33
sensitive the city and rural craft that were in that area?
1:03:37
None. Damn.
1:03:38
You're good, James, that no. And that would be one day
1:03:41
acceptable. That would have been an
1:03:43
acceptable message. Emergency message?
1:03:46
Exactly. Yeah, absolutely.
1:03:48
Emergency safety message, yes. Not the one that says there's a
1:03:51
parcel on your case when you get back, you know.
1:03:53
Yeah, but an escaped double murderer.
1:03:56
This guy is wanted for murder in Brazil, his home country, as
1:04:00
well as up in Phoenixville, PA. And they sent no alerts out
1:04:05
whatsoever. The Imagine Imagine getting the
1:04:07
phone call from a carrier saying there's seven guys walking
1:04:09
around with full body armor, AR fifteens and side arms looking
1:04:13
for this guy and nobody at the post office had a clue.
1:04:16
Yeah, we had that too. But like I said, it was after I
1:04:19
went through there. But still, you know, some sort
1:04:22
of notification would have been nice if I'd seen the guy running
1:04:25
through somebody's cornfield that could alerted the two state
1:04:28
troopers that were sitting there looking for him, waiting for
1:04:30
him. You know, I'm out there.
1:04:32
I, you know, I'm out in farmland and I see people out in their
1:04:36
fields from time to time. So to me that doesn't look
1:04:38
anything different. But yeah, you know, I could have
1:04:42
had a guy out. But still, you know, I was kind
1:04:43
of like, huh, I must be looking for somebody.
1:04:45
And then I found out what had happened afterwards.
1:04:48
Well, and on the other side of that, they could have sent the
1:04:50
an alert for the. Emergency alert system on cell
1:04:54
phones for the area if they really wanted to.
1:04:57
The emergency managers in that region actually have access to
1:05:01
that system, so they could have actually sent that out over the
1:05:04
cell phone if they wanted to. But you do have to make sure
1:05:07
your emergency alerts, the system is set up for receiving
1:05:10
those county notifications like that.
1:05:12
So I guess they had a door lock order for everybody in that
1:05:14
area. But I like I said, it was a
1:05:16
couple hours after I finished the route when I had heard
1:05:18
anything about it. Yeah, I mean, I totally get it,
1:05:24
you know? And it happened to be on local
1:05:27
Facebook groups that I saw it on.
1:05:28
I'm like, oh, that explains the cop sitting there.
1:05:31
OK. But yeah, no, I was clueless
1:05:33
too, that I had an armed guy running around my, literally the
1:05:36
neck of the woods by the National Forest.
1:05:39
And yeah. Yeah, I was a little upset
1:05:41
because they're offering a $10,000 reward leading up to,
1:05:45
you know, information leading up to his arrest or capture.
1:05:48
And I'm like, well, hold it. He's 5 foot and 120 pounds.
1:05:53
Can't you just put dead or alive?
1:05:57
All right, we should start winding down now.
1:05:59
We're getting hour and a half going on here.
1:06:03
Go ahead, Josh, your last words for this evening.
1:06:06
My last words for this evening, Hopefully everyone.
1:06:10
You only have to make it now till Friday with counting.
1:06:14
Don't get overwhelmed, you do. Take a step back, take a deep
1:06:16
breath that back him and flue smooth area.
1:06:20
It's supposed to jump back into the 90s again.
1:06:23
That's your next week games. Go for it.
1:06:26
Reiterate what Josh is said. Yeah, it's going to be hot one
1:06:29
out for a lot of places. Make sure you're hydrating at
1:06:33
night before you go to bed, and then throughout the day as
1:06:35
you're working, you start feeling overwhelmed and warm.
1:06:39
You need to sip cool water, not ice cold water.
1:06:42
Cool water because if you try to to jug it down you could
1:06:46
actually cause more damage to your body.
1:06:47
So make sure you're taking care of yourself out there and
1:06:51
remember the most important person.
1:06:54
To keep your safety as yourself, we talked about natural
1:06:57
disasters and now talk about possible situations occurring in
1:07:01
your area. And if you feel it's unsafe, you
1:07:04
need to make make it aware to management that it's unsafe.
1:07:07
And if it's bad enough, management's trying to force you
1:07:10
file a 1767 safety hazard form because you're the only one
1:07:15
responsible for your safety. Management's not the carrier
1:07:17
next to you is not only you are. So take care of yourself out
1:07:21
there. So you can go home at the end of
1:07:23
the day. See you guys next week.
1:07:26
Oh, let me Piggy Bank off of James 1767, because you're the
1:07:31
only one that can make the determination of whether or not
1:07:34
your health is in jeopardy. It's it's not up for discussion
1:07:38
with management, OK? So take care of yourself.
1:07:42
You make the decision to make sure that you get home to your
1:07:44
loved ones every day. Be vigilant with the WSH.
1:07:48
Your bundle flats, everything come from the nonlinear mail
1:07:52
clerk, mail clerk, flats, whatever.
1:07:55
Count everything you know. Dispute everything that you
1:07:58
don't. Don't feels correct.
1:07:59
Challenge them. It's your paycheck, folks.
1:08:01
Protected. OK, we are having a heat wave
1:08:04
here in the Philadelphia metropolitan area.
1:08:06
Nothing like Texas, but still substantial enough.
1:08:09
You know hydrate. You know, the night before the
1:08:11
morning of throughout the day. If anybody questions you about
1:08:15
you being stationary for prolonged periods, you explain
1:08:18
to them it's heat related. If you're driving one of the
1:08:21
postal ice cream trucks, God knows you can have the fan
1:08:25
blowing the door open and the heat coming off that engine just
1:08:28
grips right through that firewall and cooks your toes and
1:08:31
legs. So take care of yourselves.
1:08:34
As I always say, you're the most important delivery today.
1:08:37
Get home to your loved ones and be safe, folks, OK?
1:08:41
Nobody else cares about you as much as we do.
1:08:43
Thank you guys again. Yes, I know.
1:08:47
Even in my neck of the woods. It's been a cool last couple
1:08:50
weeks. Supposed to be warmed up again
1:08:53
today, tomorrow, and into this next week.
1:08:55
Make sure you stay hydrated. Dress accordingly.
1:08:58
Enjoy your Labor Day tomorrow. Don't think anything too stupid.
1:09:03
And those of us that are broke probably won't be drinking as
1:09:07
much. But everybody stay safe.
1:09:11
Have a safe Tuesday back after the holiday.
1:09:14
We all know it's going to suck, but that's normal and we will be
1:09:17
back next week. Take care, everyone.