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The Kenny Report | 22 January · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Live from Washington, DC. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me again live, coming to you live
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  Speaker 2: from a bitterly cold American capital here in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: This the first day, the first full day of Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump's second term. Did the sky fall in? Of course
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  Speaker 2: it didn't. But the lefties are still losing it. And
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  Speaker 2: of course the American President did get up to some
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  Speaker 2: of his Trumpian ways. He held another press conference today.
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  Speaker 2: It was only an hour and twenty minutes or so late.
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  Speaker 2: He called it to announce billions of dollars of investment
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  Speaker 2: by private companies in artificial intelligence data centers that of
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  Speaker 2: course require so much electricity they're need going to need
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  Speaker 2: to quickly build additional generating capital capacity. This is something
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  Speaker 2: that's very important for Australia. This is a lesson that's
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  Speaker 2: crucial to the Australian energy debate. Donald Trump knows that
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  Speaker 2: the increase prices of electricity are fueling inflation, and he
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  Speaker 2: also knows that affordable, reliable energy is absolutely fundamental to
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  Speaker 2: underpin economic development, prosperity, innovation into the future.
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  Speaker 1: So this is something we need to learn here.
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  Speaker 2: But as usual, a Trump presser can go anywhere, and
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  Speaker 2: this one today did. And the President was asked about TikTok,
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  Speaker 2: the social media platform that has now been given the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity of a new lease of life under his presidency.
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  Speaker 3: Are you a buying TikTok?
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  Speaker 4: I would be if he wanted to buy it.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like Lari to buy it too.
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  Speaker 3: I have the right to make a deal.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say, I do not like this bromance
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  Speaker 2: between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
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  Speaker 1: The most powerful man in the country shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Be constantly sharing the stage and an agenda with the
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  Speaker 2: richest businessman in the country. I do have a feeling
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  Speaker 2: that this could all end in tears. But has the nation?
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  Speaker 2: Has America changed today? Has anything happened? Well, yes, quite dramatically.
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  Speaker 2: There have been desperate changes on the Mexican border and
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  Speaker 2: reports of a steep decline in.
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  Speaker 1: The inflow of illegal immigrants.
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  Speaker 2: Also, illegal immigrants in the country have been denied access
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  Speaker 2: to certain processes, and the border boss says there are
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  Speaker 2: moves of foot already on the streets to deport criminal illegals.
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  Speaker 2: That's begun with officers searching for them around the nation.
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  Speaker 6: Here he is, who are the people that you're targeting,
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  Speaker 6: at least in this initial fans right, are the gays.
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  Speaker 3: Public safety threats of those who are in a country
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  Speaker 3: legaly that's been convicted arrested for a serious crime. But
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  Speaker 3: let me be clear, there's not only public safety threats
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  Speaker 3: that will be arrested. Because of sanctuary cities. We're not
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  Speaker 3: allowed to get that public safety threat into jail, which
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  Speaker 3: means we go to the neighborhood and find him, and
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  Speaker 3: when we find him, he may be with others. And
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  Speaker 3: unlike the lastministration, we're not going to tell ourse officers
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  Speaker 3: not to arrest in new legalantans, so if they find others,
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  Speaker 3: they'll be arrested.
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  Speaker 2: This is another issue we understand all too well in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, secure borders are fundamental to national sovereignty.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot protect your citizens, protect your country. You can't
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  Speaker 2: be a sovereign nation without secure borders. I thought we'd
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  Speaker 2: had this argument, the practical arguments around this. It's one
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  Speaker 2: of practicalities. It is one of security and sovereign rights,
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  Speaker 2: not one of morality. But someone forgot to tell the
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  Speaker 2: pastor speaking at the first service for the newly inaugurated
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  Speaker 2: President at the National Cathedral today.
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  Speaker 4: In the name of our God, I ask you to
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  Speaker 4: have mercy upon the people in our country. We're scared now.
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  Speaker 4: There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican
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  Speaker 4: and independent families, some who fear for their lives. And
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  Speaker 4: the people the people who pick our crops and clean
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  Speaker 4: our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants,
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  Speaker 4: who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants, and
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  Speaker 4: work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be
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  Speaker 4: citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority
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  Speaker 4: of immigrants are not criminals.
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  Speaker 2: Just extraordinary virtue signaling, wasn't it to agree? I kind
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  Speaker 2: of admire her courage saying this stuff directly to return
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  Speaker 2: to President's face.
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  Speaker 1: But the idiocy of it.
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  Speaker 2: The lack of comprehension, and the sanctimony, was just breathtaking.
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  Speaker 2: The left just don't seem to be getting it in
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  Speaker 2: this country. They haven't learned any lessons. It's all about
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  Speaker 2: denying what's going on and demonizing Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look at this excerpt.
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  Speaker 2: Here are some media commentators who are absolutely in denial.
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  Speaker 7: So yesterday does something happen. If something happens, Yes, it
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  Speaker 7: was Martin Luther King Day.
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: Well, in addition to Martin Luther King Day, a certain person,
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  Speaker 7: Donald Trump, was sworn back into the White House as
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  Speaker 7: the forty seventh president.
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  Speaker 2: They have got four more years of this and they
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  Speaker 2: are losing it.
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  Speaker 1: The hatred is palpable. Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 9: He has decided to make good on his promise to
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  Speaker 9: be a dictator.
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  Speaker 5: In day one, they'll be a lawsuit over birthright citizenship.
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  Speaker 5: They'll be a lawsuit over suspending asylum.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if it's not broke, don't fix it. There
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of big lies there in president for
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  Speaker 1: a grand total of eleven hours, and he wasted no
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  Speaker 1: time imposing his will on American government. I was prepared
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  Speaker 1: for shark and awe. This is just shock and awful.
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  Speaker 8: The executive orders on dei we in prisons, migrant shelters,
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  Speaker 8: as well as in spaces like rape shelters that could
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  Speaker 8: mean that people that are transgender could be moved out
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  Speaker 8: of those spaces.
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  Speaker 2: Look, this stuff, as you know, is just pathetic, but
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  Speaker 2: it's also self defeating.
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  Speaker 1: We all know, we've seen this for a decade.
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  Speaker 2: It really is just wind beneath Donald Trump's wings. What
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  Speaker 2: the left, of course need to do is examine their
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  Speaker 2: own failings, their policies, their.
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  Speaker 1: Personnel and all the rest of it. But will leave
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  Speaker 1: them to all of that.
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  Speaker 2: Now tonight, I want to let you know about something
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  Speaker 2: else I'll be bringing you because I'm going to speak
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  Speaker 2: to the man who was the longest serving national security
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  Speaker 2: advisor to President Trump in his first term, and I
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  Speaker 2: spoke to him about how Trump is going to be
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  Speaker 2: different and why in this second term.
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  Speaker 5: The first administration we had people who came in the
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  Speaker 5: administration who didn't agree with President Trump, who I think
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  Speaker 5: it had to be the grails of the adults in
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  Speaker 5: the room. We've now got a president who's served as
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  Speaker 5: commandery for four years, he knows what he wants and
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  Speaker 5: he's got a great team with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that full interview with rodbro Brian will be coming
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  Speaker 2: up later on. Now, let's go back to issues in
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  Speaker 2: Australia and just recap again the ongoing debate about anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 2: domestic terrorism, the wave of it that's erupted across our
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  Speaker 2: country over the past fifteen months.
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  Speaker 1: And you know my view about the culpability.
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  Speaker 2: Of the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi and his government. So
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  Speaker 2: let me share with you a view that was shared
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  Speaker 2: on Australian television this morning from a former Australian Federal
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  Speaker 2: Police officer.
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  Speaker 10: So, just briefly, are you saying this federal government has
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  Speaker 10: allowed this sort of hate speech to fester.
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  Speaker 11: I'm saying that I've done a six different prime ministers
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  Speaker 11: in the Australian Federal Police, a lot of my time
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  Speaker 11: in Cana terrorism, and I've never seen such a jelly
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  Speaker 11: George Spider's response to hatred and UnAustralian behavior by a
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  Speaker 11: prime minister.
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  Speaker 1: That assessment is obviously spot on.
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  Speaker 2: This is something that all of us can clearly see
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  Speaker 2: right around the country. It's so obvious that people looking
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  Speaker 2: on from overseas can see what's going on here, can
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  Speaker 2: see what the weakness of the federal government has led
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  Speaker 2: to is Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister.
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  Speaker 12: Obviously the attitude of the current Australian government towards Israel
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  Speaker 12: is inflaming a lot of these emotions and giving I guess,
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  Speaker 12: some acceptance when you do not fight it. I mean,
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  Speaker 12: what are they waiting for for someone to die, for
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  Speaker 12: someone to be murdered?
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  Speaker 2: Look It might hurt Anthony Alberizi and his ministers to
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  Speaker 2: hear this, but this assessment is absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: This is what all of us has seen transpiring.
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  Speaker 2: It can be seen from overseas, and it's tragic for
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  Speaker 2: our country. The security of the nation, the well being
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  Speaker 2: of the Australian Jewish community is actually being torn down
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  Speaker 2: along with social cohesion before our very eyes. This is
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  Speaker 2: a tragic failing for Australia and it's a failing that
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  Speaker 2: should be enough to rid the country of the Albaneze
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  Speaker 2: Labor government if there is any such thing as political justice.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have more on this issue later in.
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  Speaker 2: The program with Liberal Senative for Victoria Sarah Henderson. But
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  Speaker 2: let's now I'll get back to the transformation in America
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  Speaker 2: and around the world on account of the return of
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump to the White House, and in this case
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  Speaker 2: especially let's look at the economic transformation. I managed to
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  Speaker 2: catch up earlier today with Adam Crichton.
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  Speaker 1: He's a former.
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  Speaker 2: Economist with the Reserve Bank of Australia and of course
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  Speaker 2: he's the departing Washington correspondent for the Australian newspaper.
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  Speaker 1: Adam Crichton, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that Donald Trump's going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to unleash the animal spirits of the American economy.
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  Speaker 9: Well, certainly that is the expectation. And we've already seen
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  Speaker 9: the stock market's gone up a little bit since he's
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  Speaker 9: come into office.
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  Speaker 1: But look, I mean the stock.
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  Speaker 9: Market is very expensive at the moment, most expensive that
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  Speaker 9: it's ever been, and so there is a possibility that
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  Speaker 9: he has been handed this hot potato with the economy.
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  Speaker 9: The fiscal situation is also very bad. He doesn't like
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  Speaker 9: to talk about that because he's a big spender. He
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  Speaker 9: was a big spender in his first term. I mean,
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  Speaker 9: as you know, the US government has more debt than
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  Speaker 9: it did in World War Two.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I was going to ask you about that.
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  Speaker 1: There's incredible levels of debt. Can he do anything about that?
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  Speaker 1: Will he do anything about that? No, he won't.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think he will at all. I mean, of course,
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  Speaker 9: they have this DOGE, you know, the Department of Government Efficiency,
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  Speaker 9: which is a source of much amusement. But look, I
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  Speaker 9: just look back at the history of Western governments and
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  Speaker 9: they find it very hard to cut spending, extremely hard politically.
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  Speaker 9: And I mean Trump has said, for instance that he's
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  Speaker 9: not going to slash medicare. He's not going to slash
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  Speaker 9: oscal security. These are two of the three biggest line
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  Speaker 9: items in plus, of course the military. That's the other
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  Speaker 9: big one, the third one, and he's not going to
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  Speaker 9: touch that either.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, so what's he going to cut?
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  Speaker 9: There's not much left.
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  Speaker 2: It's about growth, then, isn't it somehow instigating more economic growth,
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  Speaker 2: keeping taxes low and hoping debt reduces as a percentage?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I would say that's wishful thinking. That's called
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  Speaker 9: the Laugher curve. He came up with that idea. I
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  Speaker 9: think most US taxes are already pretty lower. I mean,
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  Speaker 9: certainly they're lower than ours in Australia. And in fact
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  Speaker 9: that's a problem for Australia, I think, because we're going
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  Speaker 9: to become more and more uncompetitive compared to the US,
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  Speaker 9: and our economy is already struggling, as you know, quite
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  Speaker 9: snific what we had seven quarters of negative growth. I
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  Speaker 9: think I've read that per session, and so we've got,
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  Speaker 9: you know, we've got a top marginal tax rate of
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  Speaker 9: forty seven cents. That cuts in at least in US
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  Speaker 9: dollar terms, at one hundred and ten thousand dollars, which
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  Speaker 9: is very low. You know, why would a smart American
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  Speaker 9: want to move to Australia under those circumstances, or indeed
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  Speaker 9: anyone from any so anyway, So I think Trump will
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  Speaker 9: put pressure on whoever is in power in Australia to
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  Speaker 9: run a more competitive economy.
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  Speaker 2: So much happened, yes, so many decisions and now it's
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  Speaker 2: one that really stood out for me was the energy
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  Speaker 2: emergency halting some wind investments or at least approvals, promising
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  Speaker 2: to ramp up oil and gas production. This has huge
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  Speaker 2: ramifications for Australia because we face the same problem.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, it certainly does. And look, it's great for the US,
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  Speaker 9: but of course the US and Australia are competitors with
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  Speaker 9: energy exports, so it's not necessarily a great thing for Australia.
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  Speaker 9: If the US is going to flood the market with
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  Speaker 9: more supply, prices could go down. That could affect our currency,
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  Speaker 9: which actually has already been falling, as you know, So
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  Speaker 9: not necessarily great for Australia.
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  Speaker 1: But you know we should do the same. We could
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  Speaker 1: do the same.
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  Speaker 13: You know.
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  Speaker 2: The lesson, isn't it We need to understand we've created
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  Speaker 2: our own energy crist I.
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  Speaker 9: Mean, for me, I think Trump's decisions on fossil fuels
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  Speaker 9: are just more extremely important politically because I think they
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  Speaker 9: signal the end or the high water mark of this
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  Speaker 9: obsession with green energy, et cetera and net zero blah
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  Speaker 9: blah blah. I mean, if the most powerful country in
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  Speaker 9: the world, still by far the most important economy, is
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  Speaker 9: not going to pursue that, then how silly does everyone
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  Speaker 9: else look?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Australia energy rich country like Australia. It's basically Australia.
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  Speaker 9: So I mean, I don't think that we can sustain
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  Speaker 9: our net zero policy in Australia politically.
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  Speaker 1: If you've got the US got so I'd say, even
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  Speaker 1: after this announcement that I'm going.
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  Speaker 9: To the coalition is going to have to dump it.
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  Speaker 9: I think, yeah, that's my advice political discussion.
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  Speaker 2: Should dump and zero it's increasing and poplar yeah, it's increasing.
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  Speaker 2: Just finally, then let me get your thoughts on this.
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  Speaker 2: It's outside really politics and economics. Oh, it's politics, all right,
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  Speaker 2: But the media in this country. It's extraordinary to see
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  Speaker 2: the polarization. Watching over the last couple of days on
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  Speaker 2: certain channels, most of them, I suppose this is terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Trump's he's going to start a war with China over Panama,
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  Speaker 2: He's letting criminals out of jails. They just think it's
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  Speaker 2: terrible a Fox News and elsewhere, and certainly more akin
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  Speaker 2: to the way I see it, there's a new optimism,
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  Speaker 2: there are new opportunities. This is a chance for Australia,
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  Speaker 2: for America to strike out a new Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Look, well, I mean, certainly, you know, for eighty percent
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  Speaker 9: of the mainstream press here extremely anti Trump, but also
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  Speaker 9: their audiences are getting smaller and smaller and smaller. I
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  Speaker 9: think people are getting angry and angry with the sort
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  Speaker 9: of polarization in the media. It's going to be very
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  Speaker 9: interesting to see whether that changes now.
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  Speaker 1: Although you know, all of.
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  Speaker 9: The ridiculous nonsense about the Elon Musk salute, the so
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  Speaker 9: called Manzi salute, it does suggest to me that they
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  Speaker 9: haven't really learned any lessons and they've got to go along.
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  Speaker 9: But it actually helps, it actually helps Trump. He's secretly happy,
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  Speaker 9: We're actually secretly happy about their nonsense. So yeah, look,
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  Speaker 9: I agree, it's you know, two universes. But I think
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  Speaker 9: you know, the you know, the Fox version of events
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  Speaker 9: I think is far more realistic. And reflects what most
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  Speaker 9: Americans are currently thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the polls show that exactly. Approval for Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 9: Somewat ironically.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. Adam Crichton.
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  Speaker 2: There, he's had a fascinating four years here in Washington.
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  Speaker 1: He's heading back to Australia in a few days. It
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  Speaker 1: was great to catch up with him.
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  Speaker 2: Let me bring in again our US analyst, Christen Tate
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  Speaker 2: joining us late nights. Value you setting up late for
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  Speaker 2: US Christian only five o'clock in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: You'll appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: Now it is day two of the Trump second presidency.
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  Speaker 2: The left seem to understand it. Some of them are
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  Speaker 2: in denial. Many still remain in open hostility.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, the left is in complete meltdown mode. I know
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  Speaker 14: a lot of liberals. I live in Boston. I have
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  Speaker 14: many of these people in my family, and this is
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  Speaker 14: much more devastating to them than twenty sixteen was. In
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  Speaker 14: twenty sixteen they kind of said, well, this was a fluke,
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  Speaker 14: you know, But this time a message has been clearly
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  Speaker 14: sent from the American people that they unequivocally deny and
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  Speaker 14: reject the radical left ideas the Democrats put forward and
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  Speaker 14: I kind of feel for these liberals. It's bad being
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  Speaker 14: in that position. I was a conservative in Joe Biden's America,
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  Speaker 14: and it's even worse for them now because mainstream brands
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  Speaker 14: and celebrities are even kind of warming the Trump. We
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  Speaker 14: saw Snoop Dogg and Carrie Underwood, two huge US stars
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  Speaker 14: performing at inauguration events. We saw Oscar della Rena designing
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  Speaker 14: these gowns for people like Avonka Trump. So the question
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  Speaker 14: is what are they going to do now? And the
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  Speaker 14: smart ones will sit down and recalibrate and figure out
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  Speaker 14: how to make their message palatable going forward.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to fashion with you in
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  Speaker 2: a moment if we get some time, but I want
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  Speaker 2: to stay on this them.
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  Speaker 1: And you would have seen the.
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  Speaker 2: Comments from the past or I showed earlier in the
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  Speaker 2: National Cathedral today, extraordinary virtue signaling extraordinary sank demonia over
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  Speaker 2: such a crucial issue. I got to shout everybody a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit more of this.
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  Speaker 2: The name is Bishop Marion Edgar Bud and is a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more of that speech directly to the President
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  Speaker 2: in the National Cathedral.
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  Speaker 4: I ask you to have mercy, mister President, on those
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  Speaker 4: in our communities whose children fear that their parents will
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  Speaker 4: be taken away, and that you help those who are
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  Speaker 4: fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands to
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  Speaker 4: find compassion and welcome here. Our God teaches us that
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  Speaker 4: we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we
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  Speaker 4: will all want strangers in this land.
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  Speaker 1: Christian left me almost speechless.
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  Speaker 14: You'll view well the comments of this ridiculous women are
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  Speaker 14: completely out of line with the vast majority of Christians
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  Speaker 14: in this country. I'm a proud Catholic. The first thing
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  Speaker 14: I did when I got to Washington, d C. As
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  Speaker 14: I woke up Sunday morning, and I went to the
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  Speaker 14: basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. It's
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  Speaker 14: the biggest Catholic church in the country, and the energy
• 17:21
  Speaker 14: in that beautiful church was absolutely electric. Catholics and other
• 17:25
  Speaker 14: Christians in this country, certainly Protestants, are overwhelmingly thrilled to
• 17:29
  Speaker 14: have a leader in this country who wants to protect
• 17:32
  Speaker 14: life and also rejects these ideas like boys can become
• 17:36
  Speaker 14: girls that destroy people's lives. So this woman is just
• 17:40
  Speaker 14: completely out of step with most Christians, not all, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 14: most Christians in this.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Country it is worth repeating that some Pauls have Donald
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Trump's approval writing now on day one at fifty six percent.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Which is extraordinary.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So that's not only with a huge mandate, but with
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: ongoing goodwill from the great majority of Americans. I want
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: to go to another good development for him today.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: This is Marco R. Rubio going into State Secretary.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: He was confirmed by the Senate unanimously, a strong choice
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: at a really good start when it comes to these
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: getting this cabinet in shape.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:12
  Speaker 14: Look, I got to be honest, Chris. When I first
• 18:14
  Speaker 14: heard about Marco Rubio being Trumps selection, I wasn't too
• 18:17
  Speaker 14: thrilled about it. I remember in twenty thirteen, Marco Rubio
• 18:20
  Speaker 14: was part of the Gang of Eight. It was a
• 18:22
  Speaker 14: bipartisan group of senators that wanted to give essentially blanket
• 18:25
  Speaker 14: amnisky to illegal immigrants in this country. But in the
• 18:28
  Speaker 14: last couple of years we've seen Marco Rubio two point
• 18:31
  Speaker 14: zero and I love what he's been saying since he's
• 18:33
  Speaker 14: been nominated and now confirmed. He wants to put America first.
• 18:36
  Speaker 14: He understands that when we put America first and project
• 18:40
  Speaker 14: that strength on the world stage, it not only makes
• 18:42
  Speaker 14: a stronger America, but a stronger world. So I'm loving
• 18:45
  Speaker 14: what I've seen from Rubio.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: There's a nice little touch when he was confirmed today,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I want to share it with our view.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Was just to give the background to this.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: As most of you probably know, he's from Floria, he
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: has a Cuban background, He's Spanish speaking in Flora.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: There's so many historis. I think you get plenty of
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: ads on TV like this.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Geico, maybe Facilico with that little set up here is
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio who's about to be Secretary of State.
• 19:19
  Speaker 15: If I may take the liberty for just fifteen seconds
• 19:21
  Speaker 15: to say something in Spanish, because I know a lot
• 19:23
  Speaker 15: of people back home will be very proud, and I
• 19:25
  Speaker 15: want to make sure I acknowledge that Andletoria money that
• 19:31
  Speaker 15: president to Trump Bordeto, I just said, I saved a
• 19:35
  Speaker 15: much of money by switching to Geico. That's what I said.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm more enthusiastic about Marco Rubia than you. You're
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: on board now, but I think you'll be good. And
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: we need to say he's got some monumental challenges which
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: we'll speak about in a moment. With that with Robert O'Brien,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: but still on the confirmation front, more allegations thrown at
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Pete Headseth today nominated as Defense Secretary. He's worn a
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: lot of at text. He did very well in these
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: confirmation hearings. Is there any doubt about his place in
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the cabinet.
• 20:09
  Speaker 14: I don't think so at this point. I mean, I've
• 20:11
  Speaker 14: read the allegations. Heg Seth said that this is a
• 20:14
  Speaker 14: former in law of his who has an axe to
• 20:17
  Speaker 14: grind against the heg Seth family. Apparently she's a committed Democrat.
• 20:21
  Speaker 14: And look, the fact is, Chris, at this point, we
• 20:24
  Speaker 14: know heg Seth is not a perfect human being. He's
• 20:26
  Speaker 14: absolutely made mistakes in the past, but on policy he
• 20:29
  Speaker 14: is a perfect selection. And the Liberals, they already had
• 20:33
  Speaker 14: one scalp with Matt Gates. Trump cannot cave and let
• 20:36
  Speaker 14: this happen again. It would be very, very weak. So
• 20:39
  Speaker 14: do I think this will sink the nomination? Absolutely not.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Well, right, let's move back on to the media. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: showed some examples at the top of the program. Media
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: commentat is another openly hostile to Trump or in denial.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Let's have a look at the issue of January the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: sixth and the patterns Jim Acosta on CNN.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: You have the President of the United States. It's referring
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: to these people, many of them when they went to
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: jail and so on, as hostages. He has attempted time
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: and again to rewrite the history of January six Many
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: of his allies and supporters have attempted to rewrite the
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: history of January sixth. But you and I, we can
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: look at this video that we're showing our viewers right
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: now with our own eyes. We can listen to the
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: violent assault that occurred. We can look at the injuries
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: to people like Michael Fanone.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: We understand what the truth is.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: And yet the President of the United States continues to lie.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: And I use the word lie because it is a
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: lie by calling these people hostages.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That just bledd it about this Christian. They're the official
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: opposition to Donald Trump. Now there's very nu asdin couplic
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: kind of discussions to have around all these genue the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: six pads on both sides, because of course this christ
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Liz Chinyan, now there's got patterns as well, but they
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: just flat out they've got Trump as a serial liar
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: on day one.
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: The liberal meltdown on the media has been so delicious.
• 22:04
  Speaker 14: And I have to tell you I don't usually watch
• 22:06
  Speaker 14: CNN and MSNBC, but over the last few days those
• 22:09
  Speaker 14: have been my favorite channels. I've been watching them whenever
• 22:12
  Speaker 14: I'm able to because the meltdowns are just fantastic. Trump
• 22:18
  Speaker 14: triggers these people like no other.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the point, though, if they actually want
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to progress the progressive cause, if you like, if they
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: want the left to recover, they should understand that all
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this thing is, all this stuff is counterproductive.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: It is wing win beneath his wings, He's fueled by
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: this criticism.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who argue that after the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: last election loss, that Trump was heading off to the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: horizon until all of the league election against him made him.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: A hero again.
• 22:47
  Speaker 14: These people in the media, a lot of them just
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: don't get it. And this goes back to my point earlier.
• 22:51
  Speaker 14: The ones who are smart are going to figure out
• 22:54
  Speaker 14: what went wrong and how to message in an effective way.
• 22:59
  Speaker 14: But right now, what's how And as the left wing
• 23:01
  Speaker 14: media has whittled down their bast only those really committed
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: liberals who just wan't like Trump no matter what he does,
• 23:06
  Speaker 14: and they're playing to that very small base. They are
• 23:08
  Speaker 14: not increasing their tent on the left at all. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 14: for conservatives, it's pretty fun to watch.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: It, sure is. I bet you're having a bull now.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I said, I wanted to get back to fashion.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I wanted to have a look at Millennia Trump's hat
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: from the inauguration ceremony.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a spectacular hat.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And one of the amusing things about it, of course,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: was that prevented her husband, the President, from being able
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: to kiss her as he came in to the inauguration
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: in the Roadtunda. We just missed it there that he
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: went to kiss her, but the brim of that hat
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: actually kicked him away from making contact. But have a
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: look at this on social media today. I think this
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: is hilarious. This shows Millennia Trump's perspective on the events
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: from that hat.
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: I gotta be honest, I wasn't a fan of the hat. However,
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: I loved the majority of the outfits we saw and
• 23:57
  Speaker 14: the elegance and the grace. We are not only making
• 23:59
  Speaker 14: America great again, Chris, We're making America hot again. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 14: and it's just really great to see the fashion and
• 24:07
  Speaker 14: the outfits and the elegance. And Millennia Trump always looks
• 24:11
  Speaker 14: great wasn't a fan of the hat, but.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: She always looks great.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: What I'd love to see last night at the Bulls
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: was so many people said Milania's stern and the and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the two of them done it. You know, there's a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: there's a skis in between them. Had a look at
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: them dancing and a lot of it. There was the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: formal dances and then they were dancing to YMC. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: lots of smiles on the face of Millennia Trump. The
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: two of them were having a ball, wouldn't they.
• 24:33
  Speaker 14: They absolutely have a connection. I mean, we're all talking
• 24:35
  Speaker 14: about a marriage like the Clinton's, where you know, they
• 24:38
  Speaker 14: haven't been in the same location in years. I think,
• 24:41
  Speaker 14: you know, they clearly have a unique marriage given the
• 24:45
  Speaker 14: life of Donald Trump, but there's clearly love between them,
• 24:48
  Speaker 14: and it's it's really nice to see these moments.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Kristin, thanks for joining us again. We'll catch you again
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Thank you, Chris, Kristin tight they shall.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Be back with us tomorrow and not We're going to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: take it right now. On the other side of it,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I'll show you the full interview with Donald Trump's former
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: national security advisor, Robert O'Brien. We'll talk about all the
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: issues confronting the US right around the globe.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Chris Kenny coming to you live from Washington, d C.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I'll have that interview with Robert O'Brien, Donald Trump's national
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: security advisor from his first term coming up in a
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: short while. But first I want to return to Australia
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and the issue that's been dominating political debate for many
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: days now, and that is the rising wave of anti
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Semitism around the country. There has been some good news
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: today with police announcing one arrest, with more arrests on
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Here's Sky News' own Caroline Marcus.
• 25:41
  Speaker 16: Adam Edward Mole will spend the night behind bars over
• 25:45
  Speaker 16: the alleged attempted torching of a Newtown synagogue in Sydney's
• 25:49
  Speaker 16: Inner West. The thirty three year old is accused of
• 25:52
  Speaker 16: trying to set fire to the building. CCTV captured two
• 25:57
  Speaker 16: hooded man pouring clear liquid onto the bill and painting
• 26:01
  Speaker 16: swastikas on the synagogue's fans. Mister Mole was arrested overnight
• 26:06
  Speaker 16: and charged with destroying property and company using fire, destroying
• 26:10
  Speaker 16: or damaging property in company, having suspected stolen goods in
• 26:15
  Speaker 16: his personal custody and cultivating a prohibited plant.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Let's go now live to the Shadow Education Minister, Sarah Henderson.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Sarah, I wonder whether you can first just share your
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: thoughts on the latest developments, the fact that Anthony Albanezi
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: has had something of a national Cabinet meeting on these
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: issues and the fact that police have made in the rest.
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: Well, Chris, good afternoon. It is certainly positive that police
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: have arrested this person, so some progress on that shocking
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: attack on the synagogue. But let's not forget, Chris. This
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: is a national crisis that requires national leadership. We have
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: seen the Prime Minister missing in action. It has taken
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: him months and months to call a national Cabinet meeting
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: just to bring the relevant ministers around the table from
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: the states and territories, and that's appalling. He's made no
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: response at all to our package of tougher criminal laws
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: that we have announced, and of course Peter Dutton has
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: absolutely led the charge in saying there must be a
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: zero tolerance approach of anti Semitism. And as we've talked
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: about many times, Chris, so ground zero is our universities
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: where we saw for many, many months the Education Minister
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: Jason Clair and the Prime Minister taking no action on
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: the horrific protests, the encampments, the threats to Jewish students
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: and staff, and of course when you embolden these people,
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: this is what happens. It is absolutely shocking and as
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: I say, this is a national crisis and we have
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: seen no leadership at all from the Prime Minister.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: What about these reports that there is intelligence suggesting that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: overseas interests could be involved behind these attacks.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: What more do we know about that? What more should
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we know?
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: Well, of course this join and federal police have a
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: brief National Cabinet about this, and it is of course
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: a very serious situation and further evidence that this is
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: not just a matter of community safety and a matter
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: of safety for the Jewish community, but also national security.
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: It's deeply concerning, Chris. But as I say, their lack
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: of action from this government on this growing anti Semitism
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: crisis is ricocheting around the world, and we now have
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister, Sharen Haschool saying does someone have
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: to die? What needs to happen before we can see
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: the appropriate amount of action from this hopeless and incompetent government.
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: So at the very least the Prime Minister needs to
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: match the package of reforms that we have announced led
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: by Peter Dutton, including of course mandatory minimum sentences for
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: terrorism of six years. This is domestic terrorism, Chris. It
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: is extremely frightening, It is extremely serious and it is
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: about time this Prime Minister started treating this issue with
• 29:28
  Speaker 10: the seriousness it deserves.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: The straordinary thing, of course, is that the coalition of
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the opposition, as you say, as well as community leaders
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and media commentators, so many people have been calling for
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: TAFA retoric and Taugher action and Taugher law enforcement since
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: October twenty twenty.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Three, more than fifteen months ago.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yet we have heard this from the Prime Minister now
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: our claiming that he's actually been taking.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Action to Peter Dutton.
• 29:57
  Speaker 17: For someone who is responsible some national security issues as
• 30:02
  Speaker 17: Minister for Home Affairs, it should know better.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: We have acted.
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: We have established the first envoy on anti Semitism that
• 30:12
  Speaker 17: could have been done by the former government. We've outlawned
• 30:15
  Speaker 17: Nazi and hate symbols that could have been done by
• 30:18
  Speaker 17: the former governor, with outlawed dosing that could have been
• 30:22
  Speaker 17: done by the former governor where provided increased security funding
• 30:27
  Speaker 17: for synagogue's places of worshiped schools, etc.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: That could have.
• 30:31
  Speaker 17: Been done by the former government as well.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I've got to say, Sarah Henderson, he seems all at sea.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: He just doesn't understand this. They've been lacking in tough
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: rhetoric and action right from the start. And also I
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: think what plays into this very strongly, and I think
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister has picked up on this
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: point as well that over the past year Anthony Albanisi
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and Penny Wong and the alban EASi Labor government have
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: spent more time criticizing Israel then they have criticizing Hamas
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and the other Islamus terrorist organizations.
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: Look absolutely and of course we've seen the horrific statements
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: of some Greens members. They are an anti Semitic party.
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: And just imagine if the Greens were in partnership with
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: Labor in a minority government after the next election. Just
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: imagine what would happen to this country. Chris I cannot
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: bear to think about it, and what rubbish from the
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: Prime Minister. The Hamas terrorist attack on the seventh of
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: October happened under his government and we have seen weak
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: and insipid and incompetent leadership. When the hits but to
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: hear extremist members were out on university grounds, the Prime
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: Minister said nothing. The Education Minister did.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Not object to this.
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: We called for the police to be called in to
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: get rid of the encampments which were fueling so much
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: hate and incitement. And again the government did nothing from
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: the very beginning, whether it's in our schools, our universities
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: and of course the horrific attack on the childcare center
• 32:08
  Speaker 10: in Sydney, it has all been just bits and pieces,
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: too little, too late from this incompetent, hopeless Prime minister.
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: He should be announcing today that he will match Peter
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: Dutton's package of reforms to ensure that this anti Semitism
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: crisis is stamped out in this country. It is really,
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: really heritical, not just to Jewish Australian's Chris. It is
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: horrific for all Australia, for all of Australia, because this
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: is the thin edge of where the tragedy. If this
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: can happen to the Jewish community, it can happen to
• 32:42
  Speaker 10: any community.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: To right, Sarah Henderson I could not agree more it's
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a very very tragic situation for our country and as
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I say, on this issue alone, this mob do not
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: deserve to be leading such a great country because it
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: is doing so much damage to our.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Social cohesion and our national security.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, Sarah, Sarah Henderson there,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the Liberal Senator for Victoria and shadow Education Minister.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Got to get to a break.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I'll have Robert O'Brien and don't forget a great panel
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: coming up with Justin Smith and Joe Hilbrownd they go away,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Chris Kenny to Chris Kenny, coming to your life from Washington, DC.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: As you know, there are all sorts of global strategic
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: challenges confronting the new Donald Trump administration. As you also know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: during his first term there were all sorts of staff
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: changes and dramatic controversy, a little bit of a revolving
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: door through the White House when it came to his
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: advisors and his cabinet. But Rod O'Brien was someone who
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: came in as his national security advisor and provided some
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: stability and remained there for the second two years of
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: that first term.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And I caught up with him here today.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Robert O'Brien, Thanks for joining us. There was a lot
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: of chaos in the first Trump administration, especially in the
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: early years.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: What are the.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Signs that he's better prepared the second time around.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Well, I think oy the end of the first term,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: we had a great team in place with the cabinet.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: They were all on board with President Trump. They were
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: America first and peace to strength, and so with the
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: new cabinet, these are all people that support President Trump.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: In the first administration, we had people who came in
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: the administration who didn't agree with President Trump or who
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: felt they had to be the guardrails or the adults
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: in the room. We've now got a president who served
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: as commander chief for four years. He knows what he
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: wants and he's got a great team with him.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that team to some degree. At
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: lace Pete to Haigesth in defense. Obviously, he's known as
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: a media personnatally, primarily he had a military career earlier.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: How do you think he'll go getting hold of the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: vast military bureaucracy.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Well, Pete Haiks has served in the Armed Forces. He
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: was deployed to Iraq, so he's seen as a young officer.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: You know, the military from the bottom up, and he's
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: going to be I think a soldier secretary. I think
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: that the men and women of the Armed Services are
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: gonna really respond to his leadership and the strength of
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: he projects. And he's on board one hundred percent with
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump. So he'll be confirmed, and I think he'll
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: do a great job lading the department.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And what about Marco Rubia, one time presidential Esperanza, now
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: as Secretary of Study, he's got a mammoth task ahead
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: of him in such a fragile global environment.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Well, look, it's a different world than that Donald Trump's
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: inherited the first time around. It's a world of a flame.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: We left the office and in the world was at peace.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: We had the Abraham Accords, we had peace in Europe,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: peace in Asia. Now you've got to war in Ukraine,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: you've got to war in the Middle East with Iran.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: And so Marcos gonna have his handsful. But look, he
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: chaired the Senate Intelligence Committee, he was the ranking member
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: on that committee. He's been in the center for thirteen years.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: He knows what's going on, and he, you know, he's
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: got the statue or having run for president and having
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: been a world you know, a national figure and even
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: a world figure in the past. I think he's going
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: to take on this this challenge with robustness.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about a couple of those big strategic challenges, because,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: as you say, Donald Trump quite rightly is returning the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: focus to peace through strength.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Look at the Middle East.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt that the ceasefire that's in place now
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: would not have occurred without Donald Trump's election and the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: threats he was making. But it's still very fragile, isn't it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You're dealing with a terrorist organization in Hummas. What do
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you think Donald Trump will do to eradicate or eliminate
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the influence of Hummas and perhaps more importantly, push back
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: against Iran and the way it used all sorts of
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: actors in the region to destabilize it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: You've hit it on the Headcress. These Erranium prixis are
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: you know, bad actors are the Malayian influencers in the
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: whole Middle East. So you've got the Hooties, You've got
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: the Katip Haswell in Iraq, You've got Haswell in Lebanon,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: which Israelis have done a good time Touranian and you've
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: got Hamas and that's just the sort of it. And
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: so you know, we're pushing back on Iran and expect
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: more pushback in Iran, and Iran should be very nervous.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: But these other organizations like come os that are holding
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: American hostages, holding Israeli hostages, they got to take a
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: look at what President Trump did with ISIS in the
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: first term, i ISIS was shut down, We eliminated the
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: entire caliphate, and then we went and got Bagdaddy. And
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: what I've said is for these ISIS terrorists too are
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: holding American hostages and holding Israeli hostages. You know, Bagdaddy's
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: life ended in a tunnel under a compound being chased
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: by a Belgian malwail military working dog. That's that's gonna
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: be their fate if they don't let these American hostages
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: go and let them go quickly.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Eastern Europe and Ukraine. Of course
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: President Trump is said he can end that war.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Will he be.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Looking at doing a deal with Putin trading land territory
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: full peace? And if so, how on earth would let
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: me be Zolenski ever agree to that?
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Well, look, at the end of the day, it's the
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Ukrainians that have to settle the war with Russia, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: they've got to decide what they want to do with
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: their territory and if they want to see some territory
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: for peace. But they're going to need really strong security guarantees,
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: you know, if not NATO membership thing. They need you know,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: allied countries to put troops on the ground in Ukraine.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: It can't just be a piece of paper, because we
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: can't let Putin just have five years to rebuild, rearm
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: and attack Ukraine again like he's done twice in the past.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: So we have to have serious security guarantees for the Ukrainians.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: But ultimately they have to decide what they want to
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: give up for peace. Right now, the sad thing in
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Ukrainate it's not a matter of money, it's a matter
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: of men and Chris, the Ukrainians are losing thousands and
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: thousands of men and they're a small country up against
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: a very big country with Russia. So they've got to
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: they got to decide what they want to do. But
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the real question is, you know, Ukrainian manpower, and now
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: with the Russians bringing the North Koreans into fight for them,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: it's it's a real hard road to hoe for the Ukrainians.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: We've got to be there to support them, We've got
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: to vit them and put into the table. Probably further
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: economic sanctions against the Russians, either threatened or imposed, well,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: will help bring putin to the table.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: So many challenges, so much happening, so much action yesterday.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: That must be the most action in terms of policy
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: decisions executive rul is ever seen in America on one day,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: especially the fifth day, half a day really of a
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: sitting president.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But let's pick at least one of those.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: President Trump says he's going to retake the Panama Canal.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: What on earth does that mean?
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: And what are we going to see happen?
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that was the biggest news from the
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: inaugural speech, is the issue with Panama, and so the
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: canal is critical to America. That's how we move our ships,
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: our warships from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean,
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: where a two ocean country, we have to be able
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: to move our fleet back and forth. But we also
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: have seventy percent of the shipping that goes to the
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: canal goes to American ports. So the canal is the
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: lifeblood for the American economy. We gave the canal. We
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: built the canal at great cost of men and material
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: and expense. We help Panamo get its independence with the canal,
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: and we ran the cow for many many years. Now
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: that we were in a terrific act of generosity, we
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: gave the canal back to the Panamanians, which they should
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: have appreciated. Hopefully they do. But the Panamanians then gave
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: the operation of the canal by by putting the port
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: on the east and the west of the canal. They
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: gave the ports to the Chinese. We didn't give the canal,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: as a president said yesterday, we didn't give the canal
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: back to the Chinese, which is our leadingship political foe.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: We get it to the Panamanians. So if the Panamanians
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: can't run it, we'll run it for him.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: How will that happen in practical.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Tembs, Well, look, in practical terms, if the Panamanians should
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: kick the kick the Chinese out of Panama immediately, that's
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: that's the first thing they should do and get back
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: in compliance with the treaty. And they should stop putting
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: putting huge charges on American shipping, which which is a
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: drain on our economy and go back to fair pricing
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: for the canal and kick the Chinese out, and that'd
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: be a start. Otherwise they're going to lose the canal.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Now, a question is so important for Australia. Is orcustier
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: under President Trump? Two point zero.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Aucus is very safe and the president President Trump had
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: a great relationship with the SCOMO, with the Scott Morrison.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: He brought Scott Morrison here for a ski visit that
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I was at the dinner. It was amazing. And the
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: relationship between the President of Australia is strying it to
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: be strong even under a different party in the current
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Prime minister. So the American Australian relationship is rock solid
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: and ARCIS is gonna be rock solid as well.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Robert o' brian, thanks so much for talking to us.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Chris. It's great to be with you and
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: see how all the first back in Australia for.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Me fascinating staff. The world has changed. It is changing
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: under Donald Trump. Let's hope it's all for the good.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: After the break, we'll talk about one of those big changes.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Of course, Donald Trump has already issued the executive order
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: to take the US out of the Paris Climate Agreement
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: should Australia follow it, I'll be back with the panel
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: after this. At this time on a Wednesday, we usually
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: have a Wednesday wrangle between Justin Smith and Liz Stoora.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Justin joins us tonight.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: But Liz is away, so we've got Joe Hildebrand filling
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: in again. Great to have you, Joe, but there's not
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: going to be any wrangling you too.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with each other. I'm going to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: have to wrangle with both of you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 18: I think we've actually broken the space time continuing Chris,
• 42:06
  Speaker 18: because usually I fill in for Justson and now suddenly
• 42:10
  Speaker 18: we've been seen on the same screen together. People are
• 42:13
  Speaker 18: scratching their heads, going, oh my god, these are two
• 42:15
  Speaker 18: different people.
• 42:16
  Speaker 13: A couple of scruffy guys with glasses. Yeah, that's right,
• 42:20
  Speaker 13: scruffy guys.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Well, here's here's one I want to wrangle with you both.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: The biggest economy in the world now is pulling out
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: of the Paris Agreement. It's not going to impoverish itself
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: in pursuit of net zero by twenty fifty. Surely Australia
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: should do the same. Why should we impoverish ourselves when
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: we can't really do anything on a global scale. America
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: is now getting out, China is the biggest polluter in
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the world and continues to increase its emissions.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: What on earth are we doing to ourselves?
• 42:54
  Speaker 18: Well, we shouldn't be impoverishing ourselves. And part of the
• 42:57
  Speaker 18: reason why the net zero target was embraced by Scott
• 43:02
  Speaker 18: Morrison and obviously had long been held by the Labor
• 43:04
  Speaker 18: Party as well, is because it actually presents economic opportunities
• 43:08
  Speaker 18: for Australia. It opens up trading our networks with countries
• 43:12
  Speaker 18: that have also signed on to it. But how we
• 43:15
  Speaker 18: do it is, of course the bility is the question.
• 43:16
  Speaker 18: We have to make sure. I know he's laughing at me.
• 43:21
  Speaker 18: How we do it is what's important.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Joe, I'm sorry, Joe. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Joe,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Joe. We hear this all the time.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You know, we're going to get cheaper electricity and there
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: have been all these green jobs and it's going to
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: be this wonderful sort of fairyland.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: But it's not happened in Australia. It's not happened in
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: any country, and it's making us poorer. It takes a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: long time.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Justin a want's have a look to Matt Canavan on
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Sky News last night and see what he had to
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: say about this.
• 43:47
  Speaker 19: I think the question is going to be put now
• 43:49
  Speaker 19: to every political leader that supports this is what does
• 43:52
  Speaker 19: Australia get out of this? What do Australians get out
• 43:55
  Speaker 19: of staying committed to a Paris Agreement which puts US
• 43:58
  Speaker 19: on an arbitrary, artificial lockstep path and NNSU emissions by
• 44:02
  Speaker 19: twenty fifty.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, justin you'll go, why is he wrong? But I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: have a look at what we're talking about it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 13: There's no reason why we shouldn't always be looking at
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: things like the Paris Agreement and say, hey, are we
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: still on the right track with that? There's no problem
• 44:17
  Speaker 13: with questioning it. But let's have a look at the
• 44:19
  Speaker 13: people that you're backing here. You're backing Trump for a start,
• 44:23
  Speaker 13: because he made this decision. Now, Trump is a guy
• 44:25
  Speaker 13: who actually doesn't believe that climate change is a real thing.
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: So have a think about that for a second. You're following,
• 44:32
  Speaker 13: we're following the lead reason who doesn't believe climate change
• 44:35
  Speaker 13: is a real thing. And then we've got the Senate
• 44:38
  Speaker 13: here we've got a couple of senators here in Australia.
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: People aren't cannaban, don't believe in climate change either, and
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: also talk about us spewing out only one percent of
• 44:47
  Speaker 13: the world's carbon into the atmosphere. Now, if we're going
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: to look at that and say, well, hang on a second,
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: is that really the way it works? So if we're
• 44:56
  Speaker 13: only one percent, does that not mean we can't be
• 44:58
  Speaker 13: a leader in this world as far as climate change goes,
• 45:03
  Speaker 13: Give me a break. If we're going to follow people
• 45:05
  Speaker 13: into this. If we're going to question the Paris Agreement,
• 45:09
  Speaker 13: let's question it with some people with some credibility in
• 45:12
  Speaker 13: this area.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Please, yeah, see.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: The people I care about in this debate, O of
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the Australian people. And it's not about what Donald Trump
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: believes about science. It's about the practicality of what's happened
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: in economics and science. We cannot in Australia make any
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: difference to the global climate, but we will impoverish ourselves.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: We are so we do not solves by pursuing this.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And if America is.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Out of it, well all right, But in your view,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: we're going.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: To harm ourselves to do nothing.
• 45:40
  Speaker 13: You want to us, how do we do China, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 13: how do we ask India? And how do we ask
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: the United States to do better? If we're not going
• 45:50
  Speaker 13: to do better ourself. It starts with small things are
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: ignoring us.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like we're in kumbo, our class
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: at kindergarten.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: These are royal e colonies. It's real science, all right.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: We're going to move on to another.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Is showing your thoughts on these to look again at
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: what the Let's hit you out a lot warmer than
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: mail I can tell you. Let's have a look at
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: what the bishop just up the hill here at the
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: National Cathedral said in a special service for the newly
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: inaugurated president today.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: In the name of our God, I ask you to
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: have mercy upon the people in our country.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: We're scared now.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: and independent families, some who fear for their lives. And
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: the people, the people who pick our crops and clean
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants, and
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: work night shifts in hospitals. They they may not be
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: of immigrants are not criminals.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Joe peak virtue signaling.
• 47:16
  Speaker 18: Could you see sort of all the frantic texting just
• 47:19
  Speaker 18: out of shotgoing who invited her? How does she get
• 47:21
  Speaker 18: on the list? Where did she come from? This is
• 47:23
  Speaker 18: what happens when you get the Uniting Church in Now. Look,
• 47:27
  Speaker 18: I think that, Look, I think obviously that is a
• 47:31
  Speaker 18: valid point. And I know for a fact there are
• 47:33
  Speaker 18: people who are very nervous about what Donald Trump will do.
• 47:36
  Speaker 18: The truth is he's already been president once before the
• 47:38
  Speaker 18: sky didn't fall in. He talks very tough because I
• 47:41
  Speaker 18: think people are sick of the quote unquote woke rhetoric,
• 47:45
  Speaker 18: and people are sick of being sort of humorously lectured
• 47:47
  Speaker 18: to about what they can and can't say. And I
• 47:49
  Speaker 18: think that that little lecture would have could have been
• 47:52
  Speaker 18: a bit better delivered, if if it had been not
• 47:55
  Speaker 18: so kind of thuddingly earnest. But yes, absolutely, But but
• 48:00
  Speaker 18: what is the point? I mean, Donald Trump clearly has
• 48:02
  Speaker 18: been elected on an anti illegal immigration platform.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Whether you agree with.
• 48:08
  Speaker 18: That or not, that is what he ran on. That
• 48:10
  Speaker 18: is what he won on, and won very emphatically on.
• 48:13
  Speaker 18: So obviously he's going to pursue that. I you know,
• 48:17
  Speaker 18: there there are more than two genders. I actually believe
• 48:19
  Speaker 18: that believed or not. If you're born a hermaphrodite or
• 48:21
  Speaker 18: if you're born he just said, no, that is that
• 48:23
  Speaker 18: is a scientific fact. But again when you have the
• 48:26
  Speaker 18: left saying, oh no, there's actually seventy two, well again
• 48:29
  Speaker 18: that robs down their credibility.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Indeed, Joe, sorry, Justin, we right out of the time.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining us so much. Justin Smith and
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrown. That's all the time I got for you
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: here from Washington, d C.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go and thaw out.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Peter Kretlin is going to bring you up to date
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: on everything in OZ and I'll be back here tomorrow
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: night to wrap up the week in Washington, d C.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Cheers,