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Clients' Hypnosis Experience - PART 2 | Comparing Higher Self Experiences | Seer Sessions #213 · Seer Sessions

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Hey everyone, it's Gina. You're listening to Seer
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Sessions. This episode is a Part 2
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episode, so if you have not listened to the previous
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episode, which is episode 212, you might want to go back and
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listen to that first. I had friends over at my house.
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They were willing to take a couple of hypnotic journeys with
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me, one of them being the hypnotic journey that I shared
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in episode 211. In that hypnotic journey, we
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journey to the higher self using hypnosis.
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We access the trance state and access the inner knowing, the
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wisdom of our soul, the part of us that's eternal, never dies,
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lives life afterlife and life in between lives.
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In that hypnotic journey, we explore things like
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consciousness, consciousness and creativity.
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What is consciousness and does it change as we heal and grow?
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Understanding what blocks you when it comes to what you want
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most and so much more. So that's episode 211.
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This episode is Part 2 of a discussion that begins in the
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previous episode. Like I said, episode 212.
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It's three friends of mine and myself sitting in my living
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room, hot tea in hand. They had just come out of this
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hypnotic journey and I wanted to know what they experienced.
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I believe that we can access a lot of the same information,
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this higher knowing, the collective consciousness, our
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higher self. But even a universal truth can
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come out differently person to person.
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Our earth suit, our body, our perception, our life's
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experiences, those all influence how we interpret a message from
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these subtle planes. So that's another thing that I
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think is interesting about these conversations.
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When these small groups get together, go on these journeys,
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and then share what they get. It's so interesting to me to see
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the overlap in the messages in this continuation of the
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conversation. We talk about creativity, cringe
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blocks to creativity, blocks to what we want most in life.
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And then we also dig into hierarchical language and
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specifically within the healing spiritual realm, higher
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consciousness expanded, awareness more evolved.
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It's something that I've been thinking about a lot, especially
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since I've been talking about the higher self so much.
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And while I don't think the universe is labeling things as
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good or bad, I think the universe just is.
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I believe that as a human, we label things as good or bad for
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ourselves, for the collective, based on where we're going in
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general, based on where we're going today.
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But in terms of the universe, the pure consciousness that we
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return to after our experience here on Earth, it's not like the
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universe likes me more because I'm evolving or healing or
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trying to grow, become a more peaceful person.
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But I, as the creator of my own life, I believe that's better.
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And so I do use hierarchical language because for me
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personally, it is important. Anyway, we have a lot of
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feelings about it. It organically came up in this
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conversation and I was excited about it because it was
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something I had been thinking about a lot.
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OK, let's get into this conversation.
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Creating cringe beliefs, perception, anything that you
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got there. Erica, do you want to go?
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Would you mind going? Stop trying to take everything
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so seriously and play. Go into it with the mindset of a
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child, playing with curiosity and wonder.
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No one faults a child for learning something new or
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creating a piece, a piece of artwork that goes on the fridge.
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You're celebrated for simply exploring, learning, creating.
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Let wonder and joy and curiosity lead you.
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Stop worrying about the outcome. Get lost in the journey.
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You can have a goal in mind to reach, but allow yourself space
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to change direction or to try something a different way.
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It may surprise you where an unplanned turn may lead you just
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getting lost in in the play of it all.
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And that the cringe is something that's manufactured that we do
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to ourselves. But it's also a marker of growth
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when we look back at something that maybe we poured our entire
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heart into and it was an accumulation of our best work
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and everything that we could do at that time.
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We were so proud of it. And we look back at it five
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years later and we feel cringy and almost embarrassed of how
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could I have been proud of that when really all that cringe is
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telling us, look how far you've grown.
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Look how far you've come because your best work then in
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comparison to what you do now. That's that's a cringy feeling,
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but. When you explain it like that,
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it just reminds me of my inability to let go and be a
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beginner. Even when I'm learning something
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new. I feel like the trainer is
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probably annoyed with me because I should know this already.
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And it's like you just paid this person thousands of dollars to
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teach you, why do you think you should know?
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But in that, it's almost like tied to what you said before
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too, where it's like remembering why you did it and to be like in
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the play of it too. And to let that.
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And to me, what that tells me is it's a reminder to me to let
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that be like a valid desire in why I do something.
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Because I also know from my business, from watching my
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business, from watching myself flow with creativity, that's
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when I create the best things for me and for other people is
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when I'm in that state. So that should be like a part of
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my goals. Yeah.
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OK You ready? OK.
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So I got that I am often held back by doubt and distrust of my
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own plans. And if I can see consciousness
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as a guide towards like my most evolved self, then I'm already
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understanding the fundamentals and the practical steps like in
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the body to work towards the dream that I wish to see.
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And they were like, take action, no matter how small, whatever
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step you take, it's towards your dream.
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And then I got a lot of some things about expansion and
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contraction and that they're a part of the growth and lesson
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cycle and both being equally important as they balance
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consciousness energy and our collective energy.
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So it's important to have the contraction and expansion phase.
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And I was told I often resist the contraction phase and that
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by resisting that contraction by like always trying to move
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towards some goal and not allowing myself not to have a
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goal, that I'm missing the energy and the time for the
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enter, the the ability for energy to really build and the
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time for integration. And that those things are key in
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order to really experience the full expansion of my ability to
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tap into like more of an expanded consciousness was like,
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I was shown like this. It was like a cloud and it was
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like a small tube. And then it just like kind of
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like went out, whether it was like, if you were to just really
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allow yourself to live through the contraction tube, you will
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be, you know, it will explode into the cloud and you'll have
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access to the entire cloud. But if you know, if you're going
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to resist the contraction and not even like go through the
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contraction phase, you're not going to get to the full
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expansive cloud of consciousness.
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Because I refuse to allow myself to have a contraction phase
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because I'm conditioned to think I should always be working
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towards something. Whether you want to speak to it
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like personally or generally, what does that mean?
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Contraction phase, Like I think I know what it means.
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But even if you have like a, a better understanding on an
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energetic level, but like, what does that mean for you?
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Like do you see a specific thing where you're like, oh, this is a
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contraction and I'm avoiding it? Or is it more general?
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Anything you have there? I think for me, and again, I'm,
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you know, we're all unique. I think how we experience
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consciousness is different, but that's a whole different
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conversation. But for me, I think it's my,
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that feeling of being stuck. And it's like once I get to
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something and I complete the the thing that I wanted to complete,
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it's like, well, what next? And it's like, why can't I just
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allow myself not to have ideas for a little while?
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Why not allow that stuff to build back up in me, give myself
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space and time. So for me, it is a stuck period.
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And it's to me, it can feel very uncomfortable, but I think I'm
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starting to, in the last couple years, get more comfortable with
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the stuck phase because I know it will eventually pass.
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But that has only happened with the wisdom of time, you know, to
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know that like I'm not going to feel this way forever.
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But it for me, the contraction phase is like when I'm like, I
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feel stuck. I have no fresh ideas or like, I
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just feel stagnant, you know? So yeah.
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I think of that as that sacred geometry where it's a circle
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with a dot in the middle. I'm sure there's a name for it,
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but to me, that contraction, it's like every time I'm
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contracted, that's when I'm doubting this magic, that's when
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I'm doubting this work, that's when I'm doubting myself.
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And in that contracted phase, the more belief I have in
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myself, trust I have in myself, in magic, in divinity, whatever
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that means, the then when I expand, that belief expands
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exponentially. And in that expanded belief in
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myself, trust in myself, trust in the goodness, trust in my
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ability to work with the flow of the universe, it gets more.
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And I feel like we think that's the growth.
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But to me personally, the growth is believing when everything in
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my brain is like, this isn't true, blah, blah, blah, or
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whatever. And it's almost like that to me
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is the work of a contraction phase.
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It's like feeling disconnected when I feel stuck, I'm feeling
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disconnected from my magic, from source, from God.
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And that it's like, that was something I really learned this
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year where it's like, but it's in that contraction that you
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choose to believe and act like it and choose those thoughts and
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avoid other thoughts that like pull you out unnecessarily.
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And then it's like it expand. It expands just like everything
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else. But if you wait to believe till
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you're out here, it's a little shaky.
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I don't know if that makes sense, but did you already go
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over on this one, right? We are saying consciousness is
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consciousness, all that is. And then we're saying most
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evolved, best work, biggest, wisest, Stephen, consciousness
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is, I think we could be better served if we're going to label
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anything, right? Because the organization that
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you're talking about, if we are going to label anything, I think
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our energy could be better served labeling most helpful
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tool, wisest belief, most potential for positive shift and
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not focusing so much on this wisest, biggest, best conscious
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version of ourselves. I don't think I believe that
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consciousness, I'm I'm, I'm up against.
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Do I believe consciousness changes?
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So if I follow my metaphor of the sun, the science of stars.
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But I do believe that eventually, right from a
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scientific standpoint, the sun will burn out.
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So then if I believe consciousness is the sun or I'm
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following that metaphor, then in some ways there is change there.
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But would we say that the sun is the best and the biggest and the
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wisest when it's burning versus when it burns out?
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I don't think so. So I don't, I just don't think
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it's helpful to think of consciousness in terms of like a
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superlative. At all hierarchical language, it
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bothers me. And so thinking about this,
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which I of course have been thinking a lot about this, like
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if it bothers me, why do I use it?
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And here's what it is. I think the real problem is that
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when spiritual people think they're better than other people
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because they've expanded their awareness and consciousness.
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And I think if you're doing it correctly, you're doing it.
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We're doing it in a way where we feel more unconditional love as
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much as the human can for ourselves and in turn for other
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people. So to think that I am higher
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than someone who's just maybe on a different path or made
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different choices or was born in a different area to different
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parents, that's where I think it gets gross.
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So it's not necessarily the language right now for me.
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It's just the fact that a lot of people are like, I'm spiritual
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and I'm so much better than everybody else.
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I don't like the hierarchical language.
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But the real problem is thinking that 1 is better than the other.
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The universe just is. It just is.
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It's not saying this is bad or this is good.
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That's the power of being a human too.
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We get to say this is bad, this is good.
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You know, collectively we can have morals and standards, but
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in terms of just the universe, there is no ultimate good or
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bad. And so the way we measure
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vibration, for example, there's lower frequency vibration and
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higher frequency vibration. And I'm talking about a higher
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frequency in more elevated state of being of Gina.
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And to me that would be my higher self.
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So I don't think my higher self is better than me.
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I think we're all working, we're all doing, we're all being, and
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that's the whole point of it all.
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But for me, Gina, in my experience, my life gets better
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the more my consciousness is elevated, the more my awareness
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is expanded, the more the capacity to endure is expanded.
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My capacity for joy also gets expanded.
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I don't think of it as better. It's just Gina personally feels
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better when I embody more of that energy and that's what I'm
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going for. I'm not doing it so then I can
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be better than everyone else. Oftentimes when spiritual people
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kind of hit a certain level or a certain income level, they start
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to think, oh, I am better than everybody.
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And we just kind of naturally don't do the work.
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Then the work is staying grounded in the earthly
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experience of a soul evolving. That's my game.
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Anyway, that's my two cents about the higher self and
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hierarchical language, and I'm sure there will be more in the
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future as I learn and grow and my awareness expands.
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Yeah, I think it's one of the reasons why I want to dig into
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this because I just, I feel like the way we talk about it misses
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the mark in the sense of like creating real change.
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A lot of times a critique on the spiritual community, it's
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there's problems that externally, why are you focusing
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on yourself? And so I feel an insecurity
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there in the times that I do focus on myself.
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And so it's a search of like, what is that missing piece?
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I believe that as we grow, he'll evolve however we want to say
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it, that it does change the world.
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I don't think consciousness or the universe thinks even
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Hitler's bad. But I think we can look at
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someone like Hitler and go bad, and then we just don't even
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think about ourselves. And it's like how many people
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held him up. And that's a fear state or a
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contraction state or whatever. If they were more compassionate,
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opening, open and loving, I think we can get there.
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But I don't know how to get there without labels.
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But I think it's important not to label, to be like, I'm up
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here, you're down there. But for me to be able to label
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and go, that is something I want to change.
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So then the cringe feeling OK with that.
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So discernment then I think cringe is helping us to discern
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when something is out of alignment with our perception or
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our belief. So then instead of if we must
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label, OK, label. But there is an alternative, I
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think to say, OK, if that's out of alignment, what tool, what
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perception, what belief will help me get there?
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And I've already talked about embarrassment and shame in that
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sense. And with that, I think that
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because we put so much weight on perception, the cringe is also
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how am I being perceived? Yeah, I think that's all I have
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in the sense of like that cringe feeling.
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In that space, were you able to pick up on like parts of your
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perception, parts of your beliefs that block you, block
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what you want, block creativity? Mine sort of goes back to the
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cringe factor because it it's about like belief and how I feel
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like it's a choice. And at times it makes me choose
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the story that I tell myself. And I might feel and based on
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that story I tell myself, I may react a certain way to something
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or do make a certain decision. And then I may feel cringe if
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perhaps I began to question and this does happen to me, I start
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to question my choice to believe in myself that I'm choosing
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correctly. Like I don't trust that I have
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the ability to make the right choice.
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Like I'm always like. You know, I'm a Libra rising.
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So I'm always like going back and forth, like, what's the
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right choice? I don't really know.
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Like, you know, it's really hard for me to make decisions.
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And then when I make a decision and I felt like I was believing
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in myself and it didn't work out, it makes me start to
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question not just like, why that didn't work out, but like,
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should you believe in yourself? And that is what holds me back.
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And the advice I got was you have you must.
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The minute you start to feel that way, you have to decide to
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choose differently and just let it go and know you'll have the
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option to choose differently. But you can't change the past
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like what choice you made brought you on this path and now
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you know you, you probably are going to face other situations
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where you start to question if you should believe in yourself.
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And you need to notice that and decide I'm not going to, I'm
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not. That's not the choice I'm going
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to make. I'm not going to make the choice
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to question my own belief in myself.
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Does that feel doable to you? Like to me, that's the hard
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work. I mean, sure, it seems doable,
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but when you get in it, it's like all of that, you know, you
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just go right back into like a pattern, a pattern, a well worn
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pattern. So it's really hard work to like
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take yourself out of the situation and sort of, you know,
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go from a higher, you know, like up above the cloud perspective
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of, oh, wait a second. This may be a different set of
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people or a different place or a different thing, but it's the
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same story. And so if I know it's the same
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story, I can tell myself like, wait a second, don't start
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distrusting yourself. But that like making that choice
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to to to notice and then really just double down and believe in
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myself. Like staying to Lulu is the
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Salulu, I think is what the kids say.
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What is it be being delulu is the salulu like being delusional
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is the solution. So like I just have to like
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convince myself to be a little delusional and believe in myself
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regardless. Regardless, Like, yeah, this is
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this was really crazy. But I still believe in myself.
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Like it didn't work out. But I'm going to make different
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choices next time because I'll have the option.
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I will have the opportunity to face this lesson again.
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I know and choose differently, but that shit is hard.
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It's so hard. So going back to consciousness
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is all that is perception is trying to make sense of all that
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is compassion is understanding that perception is not truth.
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So that can be applied to the way that I'm perceiving the
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world is different from the way that you perceive the world.
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And that's OK because our perception is not truth.
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That can also apply to the way that I believe something about
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myself. I'm not enough in this.
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I don't like the way I do this if I had compassion for myself.
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And that the perception, that perception also isn't the truth.
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And in having these labels, the labels are helpful to help us
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make sense, to grasp the little bits that we can, to try and
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build a picture that we can understand, but also remembering
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that those labels are not truth. And so in keeping that reminder,
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I think that also keeps us grounded and in alignment with
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consciousness. Otherwise, that's when we get
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lost in those labels, in those constructs.
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Yeah, I like that you were reading something at the
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beginning. Can you read it again?
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It was something about perception, like the word
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perception was in there. You know, at the beginning this
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or. The very no this question you
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were looking at a different 1 maybe?
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I Consciousness is all that is. Perception is trying to make
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sense of all that is. That's all it is.
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Compassion is understanding that perception is not truth.
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Oh, yes, yes, yes. OK.
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Yeah, yeah. I love that understanding that
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perception is not truth. I just, I think that if we could
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get that as a society, that would be massive.
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Because I, I just feel like that's what it is.
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It's like, it's not like that for me, so it must not be like
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that for you. So fuck you.
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Why do you need help? And to understand that, like,
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no, everyone has a different perception, everyone has these
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different life experiences, and you don't have to know what that
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is to know what's different. And then listen.
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All right, last couple questions had to do with consciousness or
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our awareness and our ability to access other lifetimes.
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Did you get anything for that? Yes.
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So I put accessing other lifetimes gives us an additional
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lens, another perspective, and in that we can get a spark of
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inspiration. But then if we stop in the
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remembering and don't take it from perception down into that
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body consciousness and do something, then we're still
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missing the point of consciousness and creativity.
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So then I wrote past life Regression is a tool like
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sunscreen. Trance is a natural cycle, like
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a sunrise or sunset. Oh my gosh, can.
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You say that. Again, so past life regression
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is a tool like sunscreen. Trance is a natural cycle like
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the sunrise or the sunset. So like our consciousness is
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either way, and we can access it either way because that's
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innate, right? One of the natural cycles that
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helps us innately access it as trance.
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Past life regression is a tool that we've created to help us
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navigate consciousness in the way that we want to.
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Yeah, yeah. So other lifetimes,
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consciousness, did you get anything for it?
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OK. Going back to the metaphor of
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consciousness being like the ocean, each life is a different
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shape, vessel scooping up water. But those different shapes, the
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different materials, hold the water in a different way.
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If it's a wooden cup that maybe has a crack in it, if it's a
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copper bowl that you're scooping, that may make the
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water taste a little bit different.
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If it's a large changes the shape of that water of that
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consciousness, even though what's inside is the same, the
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way that that water is it being experienced, it's different.
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But at the end it all gets poured back in.
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Then I also have very lovely drawing as well.
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That kind of looks like a Lotus mandala.
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And if you have consciousness at the very center, each life is
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like a pedal that starts in the center and pedals outward, but
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each petal overlaps. And you could sit there and look
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at that mandala and trace your finger and never pick that
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finger back up because they overlap in so many different
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ways. And that's where a lot of like
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memories come through. Or even if you have a dream that
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feels like it was from a different lifetime and you're
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not actively trying to do a past life regression, but those
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little pieces kind of leak through.
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It's where those petals are overlapping and some petals are
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closer together on the mandala. So you get a little bit more
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overlap versus the ones that are on the opposite side that maybe
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they just touch in the center. And so those may be the lives
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that come forward more often or feel have a bigger impact on the
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life that we are living right now because they're right next
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to us. There's more overlap, but at the
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end, it all comes from the same point.
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And the closer they get to center, the more they're
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overlapping. OK.
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I have follow up question, but I'm actually going to be I'll
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ask it. It's like just the last
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question. OK, so I was shown a heart and I
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think then you asked what like body part or how there's a
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question around like what would consciousness be like in our
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body? But for me, I got how it's tied
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to the body. I got the consciousness is the
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heart and brain. It both keeps it keeps your
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existence going and growing, and it also makes your existence
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have meaning. And like one of the phrases that
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came to me, you know, as like a different phrase for a higher
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self is the core of you or like your truest self or your most
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evolved self. But the core of you felt like,
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OK, it's like that spark in me was the same no matter what.
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And I love that the Mandela that that's a game changer for me.
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And in terms of why can't I remember all of these past lives
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or get the details that I want in that question, I got that we
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see and remember the lives that would have the highest or, you
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know, the most impact in the moment for whatever it is that
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we're working through. And we're only going to be able
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to access the memories that are needed most in the moment
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because otherwise the sheer amount of knowledge of all of,
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you know, the different lives and existences and all of that
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may actually overwhelm our human brain.
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And like for me, I've always had this fear of like getting myself
30:54
so deep into these spiritual concepts and teachings that I
30:59
would lose my mind, legit need to be like mental health issues.
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And so that's where I kind of dance on the periphery of a lot
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of different things because I'm afraid to go deep because I'm
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afraid I'll lose my mind. But this helps me know that,
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like, I'm not going to really receive more than I need to in
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that moment, right? Yeah, so this wasn't in the
31:33
session, but what are we doing? Like where we where are these
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memories? Like am I going somewhere?
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Is it right here? Is it here?
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You know? But in that is also the question
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of like, why do people always go to a past life and it's so rare
31:50
someone goes to future life? Looking back at the Lotus
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flower, there's no past. There's no future.
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Like it's all in a circle and you can travel from one petal to
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the next in the linear fashion, but there's really no past
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future that's you could go this way.
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You don't even have to go in a full circle.
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You could go travel in any possible which way.
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So it's kind of like the label thing, like 100%.
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I get that. I believe it's all happening at
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once, but in this body there is relativity.
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And so in this body there is a pass like yesterday's lunch is
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yesterday's lunch. I do believe it's all happening
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at once. I don't know why it feels that
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way here We're in the relative for something I don't know, but
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in my belief system, which is that it's all happening at once
32:49
except here in this third dimension in this individuated
32:53
earth suit, I it's slowed down or something where I experience
32:58
it as. So if it is all happening at
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once and if it is the past is just my perception today.
33:08
Is it that all of my clients go to a past life because I tell
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them to or they believe they want to?
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That's the induction. But even a long time ago I
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started using other lifetime language in an induction and
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still no one goes to a future life.
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So if it's all happening at once, a future life should come
33:32
in just as easy as a past life. But everyone goes into the past
33:36
and I think it's because we don't believe we can go to the
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future. We don't believe it's all
33:41
happening at once. But I'm just curious on a
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personal level, like if you've thought of it or what you
33:46
believe. So everything happening all at
33:48
once, it's akin to consciousness is all perception is trying to
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make sense of all that it is. And so the linear past and
34:00
future is our way of trying to perceive and make sense of all
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that is all that vastness in the best way that we can and the
34:13
best way that we can changes. But for most of us right now,
34:20
generally in this lifetime here on Earth, that linear thinking
34:23
of past versus future is the easiest to grasp when we are
34:28
first taking those steps of expiration into all that is,
34:32
especially for clients who maybe this is their first time to
34:36
really take those steps, it's easier to think and
34:40
conceptualize past than it is future.
34:44
And so again, it's all about that label to just help us make
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sense. And I guess the context, like
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we're obviously more familiar with the past in the future.
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Yeah, cons. The.
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That concept but then also the reinforcement through culture,
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society, collective as well. Like the, a lot of people that
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come to pass life regression have read a lot of books about
35:11
past life regression. So we're using that language
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right. Then if you pan out even
35:17
further, it's there's a huge focus on history, but not nearly
35:23
as much of A focus on creating a future, right?
35:28
Like we study history, but we don't have a class growing up
35:33
about creating the future, right?
35:36
So it's like, yes, we're trying to make sense, yes,
35:39
contextually, but also it's being reinforced over and over
35:44
and over again. And that's just two examples.
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But surely there's hundreds of more examples we could come up
35:50
with where looking at the past is way more socially acceptable,
35:56
encouraged than thinking about the future.
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Yeah. So it would make sense that in
36:02
our perception and in our belief systems, we would go to the
36:06
past. With all of the societal
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influence, I almost feel like that is belief.
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So then we have the perception of us trying to make sense of
36:15
it, but the belief is how we are even told to organize that
36:18
perception. And so that's that's the next
36:22
step of I don't think that I have a complete thought.
36:29
For me, I kept thinking about consciousness being what nudges
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us to shed labels. So it's, it's almost like it's
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like, I mean, it's all connected, but it's like, are we
36:44
talking about all the same thing, you know, but it's like
36:48
consciousness, can it nudge? It's what nudges us to like, you
36:53
know, that label. I don't really like that label
36:55
anymore. Like I used to really identify
36:57
with that, but it feels too limiting.
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Like what I have that thought without, like my expanse, you
37:05
know, expansion of like tapping into something like a larger
37:10
collective ideas that are created by other people that
37:14
inspire me to like change and broaden my perspective.
37:19
Like I really do listen to myself, but I never want to get
37:22
to a point where I don't give other people's ideas a chance.
37:27
Like I want to listen to them. Yes, it's like that strength.
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What can I learn? I can learn from everyone.
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Yeah. Like there's something I can
37:34
learn from every. That is our episode for today.
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record this and share their stories and just have them take
37:46
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37:48
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37:52
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