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Is the Chiefs Dynasty Officially Over? NFL Wk 11 Reactions/Takeaways! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: one thirty eight of the so called sports panelists, and finally,
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in three weeks, we got the
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  Speaker 1: whole band together.
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  Speaker 2: So how are you guys doing.
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  Speaker 3: The dream of That's pretty usual. Saints thrown a bye
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  Speaker 3: this week, as we all know, so last week we lean.
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  Speaker 3: The last time that we played, we won, So I'm
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  Speaker 3: still righting Hi, going into this by week feels good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. Besides the Chiefs, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Spurs are killing it. Their start means more to me
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  Speaker 4: than a Chief Super Bowl. Everyone knows that, but they do. Bro,
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  Speaker 4: you don't understand the love that just because your team
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have success today.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Today, I'm perfectly fine with it. I mean, like I
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  Speaker 4: said at the start of this season, is the best
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  Speaker 4: that it could possibly be? Like, I'm not he can
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  Speaker 4: rest I'm cool with it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, their timeline is there timeline out on them?
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  Speaker 4: There are no timelines in the NBA, Bro, just they
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  Speaker 4: say multiple weeks, figure it out when it comes bro. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and then you know, take this tech just doing their
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  Speaker 4: thing each and every single week. So that's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, before we start, find us on Twitch, Discord, TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: But all right, let's go and get this thing started
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  Speaker 1: right here with the AFC side, and which will go
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  Speaker 1: with standings first, and then you guys could just talk
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  Speaker 1: about any game, which I already know which one we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about first right here. Broncos are the
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  Speaker 1: one seed right here, nine and two, Patriots nine and two,
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  Speaker 1: Colts eight and two, Stiller six and four. Then the
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  Speaker 1: wild card teams Bills are seven and three, charged Our
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  Speaker 1: seven and four, and the.
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  Speaker 2: Overrated Jacksonville Jaguars are six and four, and and we're we're.
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  Speaker 1: Missing we're missing a team here which will start off
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  Speaker 1: right right here, Denver Broncos versus the Kansas City Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: right here. Chiefs they lose to the Broncos twenty two
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  Speaker 1: to nineteen game win a field goal.
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  Speaker 2: Josh, the floor is yours?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all righty say all in the group chat. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not really like I'm mad about the loss because
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  Speaker 4: you know, the Denver Broncos still suck at football, like
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  Speaker 4: they're still an overrated football team. And the Chiefs are
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  Speaker 4: just trash this year, like they just can't get the
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  Speaker 4: job done when they need to get the job done.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's kind of annoying because like, we have the
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  Speaker 4: best player in the world on our team, and just
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  Speaker 4: play calling just happens to bite us in the ass
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  Speaker 4: over and over and over again. And he did make
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  Speaker 4: a bonehead decision throw the interception in the red zone
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  Speaker 4: when he probably should have just three out of bound
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  Speaker 4: settle for the field goal, which would have put us
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  Speaker 4: in way better position to finish out that game. Just
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  Speaker 4: minor mistakes like that. And then you know we have
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  Speaker 4: a rusher in the backfield that is seventeen for twenty
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  Speaker 4: on the season on third and ones. You know what
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  Speaker 4: we do on third and one this year? This week,
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  Speaker 4: we threw the right throwing the ball and we got
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  Speaker 4: we got sacked. Like, bro, how does that work? Like
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  Speaker 4: you just stagnan your drive. It ends at that moment.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not mad at the defense. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like the defense gave our offense plenty of opportunities to
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  Speaker 4: get the job done. It just they're on the Denver
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  Speaker 4: Broncos keep attacking with the D ball, like eventually they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna hit And it's really hard to keep a team
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  Speaker 4: like that who have like big playmakers. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: like they're these these great receivers like I like Courtland Sutton,
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  Speaker 4: but when we talk about like Tory Franklin or Marvin Mams,
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  Speaker 4: like if you give these guys an inch of daylight,
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  Speaker 4: at least once, they're gonna they're gonna hit a big
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  Speaker 4: one every once in a while. As far as our offense,
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  Speaker 4: I think that's where the problem lies. Like I think
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  Speaker 4: it's been the same tail for the last three seasons.
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  Speaker 4: Like we have the weapons now, but the thing is
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  Speaker 4: what it was. It nine offensive penalties in this game alone.
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  Speaker 4: It hurts the team, especially from the offensive line. JU want,
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm just I'm going freaking blink right now. Justin Simmons.
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  Speaker 4: Justin Simmons, What am I saying?
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  Speaker 5: Right now?
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  Speaker 3: Bro? Josh Bro?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm first game back. Looks a little rusty.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he still had a really great day. I
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  Speaker 4: think he held Nick Bonito in check when he needed
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  Speaker 4: to hold him in check and then, but also a
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  Speaker 4: couple holding penalties here and there. But as far as
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  Speaker 4: Jawan Taylor, like, it's just it's just common at this
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  Speaker 4: just it's just inevitable at this point that he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: have some holding calls. Put this, put this offense back,
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  Speaker 4: and then I just feel like, how do we have
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  Speaker 4: a player whose average depth of target is two and
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  Speaker 4: a half yards, which is basically just to give me
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  Speaker 4: throw almost every single time. Go from having five catches
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  Speaker 4: in the first half to only one in the second.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's really where the team felt is just
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  Speaker 4: offensive play calling. But I gotta give it to the Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: They they kept going, going at him when they needed to,
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  Speaker 4: and they ended up getting the job done. Like they
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  Speaker 4: they they were able to capitalize on what they've done
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  Speaker 4: all season is have a lot of these fourth quarter comebacks,
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  Speaker 4: especially at the end, and game winning drives, and they've
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  Speaker 4: been one of the better teams at it all season.
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  Speaker 4: And it catches up to us and you play football
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  Speaker 4: teams that get that have these great defenses. See the
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  Speaker 4: differ Broncos. The different Broncos defense is no joke, Like
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  Speaker 4: especially in the red zone, like there's like two or
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  Speaker 4: three times we got into the red zone literally sex
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  Speaker 4: six seven yards out. Oh my bad, I did me
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  Speaker 4: to do that, But like they were, they were right there,
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  Speaker 4: and we saw it last week a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 4: like especially versus the Raiders and a couple other teams,
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  Speaker 4: where they were able to hold these teams in check
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  Speaker 4: within the red zone. They did the same thing here
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  Speaker 4: to the Kansas City Chiefs, which is kind of annoying.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I don't know where we go from here.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm being completely honest, I think we have. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the Colts is of must win every game from now on,
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  Speaker 4: a must win, especially with the way that this AFC
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  Speaker 4: is panning out right now. You got New England Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills are in a wildcard spot right
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  Speaker 4: now and they're seven and three, which is insane to
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  Speaker 4: think about. And then you even got the AFC North,
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  Speaker 4: which is still pretty close with the Baltimore Ravens finally
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  Speaker 4: at five and five. And then you know the overrated
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  Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars and overrated and the mid tier Houston Texans
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  Speaker 4: are better record than us or have the same record,
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  Speaker 4: so and then it's not even easier in our own
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  Speaker 4: division right now. But I do think the Chargers, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, talk about them in a minute, dude. The
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  Speaker 4: offensive line problems are hitting them really hard. But other
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  Speaker 4: than that, it's a really hard year to have this
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  Speaker 4: type of year. So but if there's any team that
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  Speaker 4: can do is it can't say the Chiefs, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but we'll just have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as per usual, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, Jeremiah Love season. If not, it's Jeremiah Love.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was, I was gonna talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you guys are missing on offense, a third round.
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  Speaker 4: Draft pick for Breeze Hall.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I know I was gonna get to that,
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  Speaker 3: like you were saying, you know, you guys are giving
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  Speaker 3: up a third and the six.
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  Speaker 4: Trust me, I already ran to to Fonzo. He was
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  Speaker 4: in my chair earlier.
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  Speaker 1: It was more like, yeah, we're having.
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  Speaker 4: That conversation because Fonzo brought it up, and then we
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  Speaker 4: started going into.
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  Speaker 2: It, and.
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  Speaker 3: It's the running back issues are insanely bad for the
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  Speaker 3: Chiefs there.
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  Speaker 4: I think the story game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general for explosive run plays, They've
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  Speaker 3: only had three runs over twenty yards this season, which
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  Speaker 3: is one of the worst in NFL season to this point,
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  Speaker 3: and they only have eleven over ten yards. They only
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  Speaker 3: have eleven run plays over ten yards. So it's like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know you guys, your running backs aren't breaking off tackles.
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  Speaker 3: There's yards before contact isn't bad, it's about league average,
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  Speaker 3: but then after that point, they're not getting that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: yards after contact like you would want to see. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it is Kareem Hunt, it's just starting running back, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he's older, hasn't really been relevant for like five years.
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  Speaker 3: And then like Mahomes, I mean, it's it's so crazy
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  Speaker 3: because you feel like you're wasting a season. This is
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  Speaker 3: his third best EPA season. He's he's ranked I think
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  Speaker 3: fourth right now in EPA.
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  Speaker 4: For drops amazing out there, I guess like.
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  Speaker 3: That, and it's like he's he's up there with his
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  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one season. But the reason
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  Speaker 3: why this offense still looks so bad is because of
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  Speaker 3: that run game. Like weekend week out, I preach about
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  Speaker 3: turnovers and explosive plays, and the Chiefs had zero explosive
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  Speaker 3: plays on the ground, like three on the year. Is
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  Speaker 3: insanely bad. That's worse than the Eagles. That's worse than
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  Speaker 3: every other team. Whenever it comes to on the ground,
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  Speaker 3: they're thirty second whenever it comes to the explosive run rate,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's what is missing in this offense.
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  Speaker 3: It looks so bad. And then this defense, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's solid for the Chiefs, but they made Bonicks
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  Speaker 3: look decent. And it pisses me off because we all
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  Speaker 3: know I hate check Bonnicks man, and he I will say.
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  Speaker 4: Like Bonicks, so dude, he made.
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  Speaker 3: He made some good reads against the Chiefs, but it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't great plays like he's he's not throwing in structure
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So it's like, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: watch this team, it's just the Broncos, don't you know,
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  Speaker 3: excite you on that offense. But the record shows that
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  Speaker 3: their defense is good enough it doesn't matter. And then
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  Speaker 3: Nick Benito and Cooper, both of their edges are absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 3: Like you were saying, Josh Shimmins was coming back his
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  Speaker 3: first came back and he's looking a little bit sluggish.
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  Speaker 3: And then also all those injuries, it's like you're wanting
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  Speaker 3: to drop back. They have the fastest explosive get off
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  Speaker 3: rate they're ranked Nick Benito is second and then Cooper
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  Speaker 3: is fourth. So it's like they have some of the
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  Speaker 3: fastest get off edges in the NFL. And that's why
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  Speaker 3: Nick Benito has nine and a half sacks and then
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  Speaker 3: Cooper he's a young guy and he's got what like
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  Speaker 3: seven or eight sacks this season. So you know, whenever
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to drop back, you know, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: got guys jumping off sides and stuff like that. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's extremely hard to play this defense. And then you
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  Speaker 3: got PS two dpo y out there on the outside
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  Speaker 3: taking away your number one option. So it really just
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  Speaker 3: comes down. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, dude, that makes some even more scarier.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it's like they're he's coming back, Like
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  Speaker 3: this defense is just so complete and they're playing extremely well.
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  Speaker 3: It's like if the Broncos offense, man, if if bo
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  Speaker 3: Nix learns how to throw the ball past you know,
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  Speaker 3: twenty five yards, who knows, maybe he'll be a really, really,
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  Speaker 3: really good team. But yeah, I think it's I think
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  Speaker 3: it's just it's still crazy because I still feel like
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  Speaker 3: the Chiefs are going to make the playoffs. They're five
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  Speaker 3: and five. I get it, but I still have I
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  Speaker 3: still have them making the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 4: But I want to touch on something that that you said,
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  Speaker 4: like with the with the run game, like it's hard
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  Speaker 4: to have explosive passing plays when they can, all they'd
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  Speaker 4: have to do is zero in on the pass and
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  Speaker 4: there's no threat in the backfield. And the another thing
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  Speaker 4: you're talking about, it's not that our dbs are amazing,
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  Speaker 4: Like I think our dbs are playing the best football
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  Speaker 4: they could possibly pay play. But when you're generating no pressure,
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  Speaker 4: like zero to no pressure on from the defensive line,
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  Speaker 4: because we have some of the worst depth in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: like we used to go. We went from having the
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  Speaker 4: best depth in the NFL to having some of the
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  Speaker 4: worst depth in the NFL when it comes to the
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  Speaker 4: defensive lines. We constantly had bodies bodies actually over and
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  Speaker 4: over again, like I was sure you didn't know who
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  Speaker 4: they all were. But it was constantly rotation of guys
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  Speaker 4: who can create pressure on the quarterback. Because I believe
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  Speaker 4: there was not last season, but two seasons, two seasons
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  Speaker 4: in a row before that, we were second or third
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  Speaker 4: in the league or first or second in the league
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  Speaker 4: in sacks as a team, like you know, so this
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  Speaker 4: is this is this is where we faltered at and
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  Speaker 4: you know, the biggest thing about it is me and
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  Speaker 4: Fonza were talking about it earlier as well, that we
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  Speaker 4: we paid George carl aft Is expecting him to be
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  Speaker 4: the closer when it comes to creating pressure because we
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  Speaker 4: thought we had the initiator and the guy just has
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  Speaker 4: not been the initiator. And that's Chris Jones. Chris Jones
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  Speaker 4: has not been the same type of guy that he
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  Speaker 4: has been over the majority of his career. And the
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  Speaker 4: and the fall is drastic, like it's it's it's easy
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  Speaker 4: to see on the screen that he does not have
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  Speaker 4: the same energy. He's taking more breaks on defense than
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  Speaker 4: he usually does, and he's not getting double teams. Like
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  Speaker 4: there's no respect for Chris Jones as much as there
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  Speaker 4: was anymore. And I feel like where we're having our
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  Speaker 4: struggles is in the trenches, like on both sides of
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  Speaker 4: the ball, like running the football and creating pressures on
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback. And that's where the Chiefs are faltering versus
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  Speaker 4: teams that have that. Like if we look at the
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  Speaker 4: even the Denver Broncos, like at least they still have.
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  Speaker 3: RJ.
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  Speaker 4: Harvey, who looked good in this game. I think he
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  Speaker 4: didn't have a lot of work because they started Audric
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  Speaker 4: is Steamhan over him, which Audrick is Steaman I think
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  Speaker 4: did okay. Because the Chiefs run defense is still great.
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  Speaker 4: Like disregarding pass rushs run defense is still great. They
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  Speaker 4: helped them and check, but those little minute plays that
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  Speaker 4: they were able to get like eight yards, six yards,
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  Speaker 4: five yards here and there added up way more than
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  Speaker 4: the Chiefs could because what the Chiefs rely upon is
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  Speaker 4: the short yardage game by Rashid Rice, you know, receiving
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  Speaker 4: the football, and when you eliminate that, it kind of
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  Speaker 4: hurts them pretty good, pretty big.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, I'm gonna start off with the Broncos and
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  Speaker 1: I'll go with the Chiefs again. With the Broncos, like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, I just I don't know what to gauge
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  Speaker 1: off of them. In so many close score games, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of view them. I know, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: really talk about them. The Chicago Bears, they're just winning
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  Speaker 1: so many close games. Is not necessarily that they're a
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  Speaker 1: better football team. It's just, you know, there's some years
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  Speaker 1: like this. I read you that stat Josh whare the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs who are eleven to zer last year on one
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  Speaker 1: score games now their own five.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like it's just one.
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  Speaker 1: Of those years where everything is going to be going
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  Speaker 1: their way or kind of like the Minnesota Vikings three
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  Speaker 1: four years ago, something along those lines. But as far
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  Speaker 1: as with the Chiefs, like, I want to go with
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  Speaker 1: the defense first. So like you're saying, they're not getting
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  Speaker 1: no pressure on the quarterback, and the main thing their
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  Speaker 1: secret sauce was spags. Whenever he'd bring that extra that
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  Speaker 1: extra guy, whenever he'd bring that blitz, that was their
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  Speaker 1: trump card. That was their wild card right there. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's predictable because you're not getting pressure with four, like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, Chris Jones is not the same, So go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Well, also when you take the best slot corner out
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  Speaker 4: of the slot, the best nickel corner and the best
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  Speaker 4: slot cornerback in the entire NFL, who who was also
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  Speaker 4: happened to be the best like like blitzing cornerback in
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  Speaker 4: the entire NFL, the best tackling warning back in the
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  Speaker 4: entire NFL, and who have also happened to be the
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  Speaker 4: guy that caused the most fumbles in the NFL at
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  Speaker 4: the cornerback position out of the slot and move him
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  Speaker 4: to the outside, you eliminate so much more that you
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  Speaker 4: have like in the off. That's what made Trium mc
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  Speaker 4: duffie so great, That's what made him a first team
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  Speaker 4: All Pro was that he did so much out of
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  Speaker 4: the slot position and created havoc out of that. And
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  Speaker 4: I just think also, like I think it starts with
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  Speaker 4: Chris Jones no matter what, Like I don't think you've
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  Speaker 4: pied Like like Leo Chanel is suit uber athletic, like
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  Speaker 4: he can rush the passer, but he needs that guy.
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  Speaker 4: He needs stone cold George Carl Laftis is a constant
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  Speaker 4: eight sack of season guy since he's come in to
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  Speaker 4: the NFL. He's not getting that right now because his
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  Speaker 4: pressure is so late into the into the reeds, because
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  Speaker 4: Chris Jones isn't creating pressure like it starts at number one,
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  Speaker 4: it starts at ninety five. And if ninety five not
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  Speaker 4: betting the job done, it deteriorates that whole pass rush.
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  Speaker 4: And Nick Bole's never been this great blitzer, but still
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  Speaker 4: he had success. And I think a lot of the
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  Speaker 4: things we're missing some athletics, speedy guys that we used
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  Speaker 4: to have like Willy Gay Junior. Like Willy Gay was
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: able to get a lot of those pressures, and we
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: just don't have that same We just don't have that
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: same type of the same type of action. And like
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: I know they're calling for Mike Panel, Colin Sanders, Derek Noddy,
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: these guys have been here for years, Like they're they're older,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: they're getting older. Like it's not like, why do we
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: keep bringing back the same guys? Like I understand it.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I would love to see Colin Saunders back. I'm I
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: love Colin Saunders. But the thing is that's not gonna
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: what we need. We needed to make a move for
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Jalen Phillips, We needed to make a move for let's say,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Quinn Williams. We needed to make a move for someone.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: You know that, Like there's there's guys sitting out there,
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: sitting out there right now on in the free agency
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: that you could go pick up that could probably come
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: off the couch and do a lot more for this team,
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: just in depth, in a depth standpoint to create bodies.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: But you know, each each for some reason this year
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: is sitting on his butt and getting the job done.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think the main reason for that
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: is y'all lost O Martin Norman Lot Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: And he was supposed to be that speed guy, and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: he's good.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Coming out of coming out and dude, coming out of
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Tennessee is one of my favorite prospects. I think in
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: the mock draft I had him going in the first round.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Whenever we did that episode, like I thought, it was
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: such a great for you guys.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I swear, I swear, get started with that again.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Shavon Revelt started today, guys started today.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: You did look good, you did look good.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: But no, he he only you know, oh n L.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I'll say O n L because I can't, you know,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: pronounce his name correct because I'm why, But dude, he's
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: he's only started in two games. He has five solo tackles,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: a stack and then a forced bumble that wasn't from
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: no y'all's defensive tackle.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Omar Yeah, Omar Norman Lot Omar.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I know, like I said, like, I'll say it.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Anyway, but he was to get more burned and then
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: he was bawling out at first and then and then
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: of course it goes on r he like which quarterback
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: that he sack? He just speared him like he just
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: threw his whole body at him like I forgot who
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: he sat, came off the middle and just roman arranged
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: him like the ground. Yeah it was great, but yep,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like no on the chief.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, one last thing, Okay, Patrick Mahomes the first
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: four years of his career one O six passing eight
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: point two yards per attempt and the last three years
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: seven yards ninety three passer rating, bringing any reason I
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: innovate him no more. He's both of y'all's coaches. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: think it's just the talent is there. I think just
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the coaches there. They stayed the same and stagnant.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Wraps.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I know you want Cliff Kingsbury, Okay, realistically, realistically,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: like if it's not, I don't think Cliff kings buries
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: up for another head coaching job some somebody in this
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: head coaching cycle.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I'mbout to buy the you know what. You know what
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I'm about to do, you know what?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, No, But all right, let's go ahead
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and talk about another game from the AFC. Let's see
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: which one we could go to. Right here, Let's talk
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: about the Chargers and Jags right here. Since you talked
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: about the Chargers earlier and which the Chargers they got
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: completely whooped by these overrated Jaguars right here thirty five
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to six.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So either one of y'all could take before.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Hey and get the damn MVP to Joe Alt if
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: we're going to talk about somebody bro god without.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Dude, so they have that, they have that Lineman Award
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: this year too, But no, dude, it's I mean, yeah,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Jags whooped the ship out of the Chargers, but in
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: reality they were playing the practice squad for the Chargers. Dude,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: just and Herbert got hurt in this game. The doll
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: went out in like what the first quarter or second quarter?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: He went out early, like Quentin Johnston was in and
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: out of the game. It just it was such a
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: bad game, Like literally everybody got hurt in this game
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: for the Chargers and the Jacks. I mean, they just
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: kind of got the job done. They kept the ball
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: on the ground for a lot of the game. Tilaw
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: didn't do anything exciting as for usual. I mean, he
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: had a pretty bad pick in this game, like a
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: really bad pick, and he wasn't like a super high
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: percentage like it was just I know, facial Tutan was
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of burn. I think he if I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: not mistaken, I was trying to trade for him because
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: he actually out snatched you. He out snapped to start
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: off the game. And and I like the athleticism that
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: that Tuton has, and you know, he's kind of he
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: was kind of balling out a little bit in this game.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: And then he got banged up as well, So it
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: was just I feel like, yeah, so it's like it's like,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: what's the point in putting him back out there? But no,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: he was getting the burn early. It's not like he
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: was getting the burn late in the game. Yeah, he
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: was getting Yeah, he was getting most of the early work.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: It was maybe just was stealing his touchdowns.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: All right, Josh, So how would you or not? Josh?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Josh, let me ask Breacking a question. So how would
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you rate Trevor Lawrence as of this year?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: How he's done this season? Just just a question.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Me and Josh were talking about it the other day
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: that he is the opposite of Justin Herbert, Like whenever
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: it comes to every single play, you're like, what the
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: fuck are you doing? And then he shows you a
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: flash You're like, holy dude, this is why he's the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: first overall pick. This is why. Yeah, it's like he
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: shows you like he shows up, like he just shows
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: up and balls out and you're like, holy shit. Justin
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Herbert is the complete opposite. He's consistent as fuck, like
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: day and day out, super good, and then comes to
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: a big game and they hit the bed in their
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: first playoff game and he plays absolutely horrible. I think
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: he had like what three picks in that game against
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the Jags.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so like pretty hearing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like they're two of the opposite players which.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Lead.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so crazy because they are more like
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: they couldn't be more opposite from each other. Te Law
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: he's still a young guy and he shows he shows
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the flashes, but he still makes those young mistakes. So
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: it's like, so don't.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: One to ten if you had to give one. I'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: asking this for a reason, Josh, I've.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Given them like like a six seven, Like a six
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: seven I was gonna say, because this is if five average,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I would give him a five. If average, I'd give
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: him a five.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And what would you give Baker this year as far
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: as rankings, like the scale of one to ten, Just
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: just a quick question. I think Josh does upgoing right here,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: just question, just observation. What about Baker Mayfield. Well, we'll
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: talk about that game in a second.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Baker, I'd probably put out of six, maybe just a
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: little bit better this season.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: No, you're tripping. You're saying that on purpose.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: You're saying that on.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Purpose right there.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: This is the same Brecken was trying to trade Trevor
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Lawrence for two picks in Dynasty, because Baker went for
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: two picks in Dynasty, two first round picks.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Baker. Also, Baker's also what five almost six years older?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: No matter for quarterbacks, bro dude, it doesn't.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: But I mean, I don't know. He's got you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Tee Laws got a bigger contract, longer contract, debatable, better
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: receiverie Baker's.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Baker's thirty three year old contract would be bigger than
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence's twenty eight year old contract.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. No, I'm just playing. I knew,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I knew that's where you were going. In reality, Bakers,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Baker's balling out, He's and he's doing it with some
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: some kind of scrubs at receiver.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: But that's that's crazy, Reckon, That's crazy.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm saying, like, whenever in Buka and all
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: of them were out, he had Tess Johnson has receiver.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: One game, I mean he went crazy with Tess Johnson.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Bron't know, and then and Buka came back and he
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: played what like fucking five snaps.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Test Johnson's been doing good, Bro, No.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: He's been doing good. But Test Johnson's not Mike Evans,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Chris Godwin or Buka. He might be up there, he
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: might be up there with Chris Godwin, but he's not
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Mike Evans or Prime.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Chris Godwin's is different, Bro.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: He's about prime, prime Russ, Bro, Prime Russ average, Drew
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: brees Us Russell. You're like no prime.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Westbrook west And We've probably never even watched a full
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Russell Rustbrook game in his life, Bro.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: And he did, Bro. He took he took a white
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: boy from West Texas that didn't know that basketball was
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: a real sport, and he made me fall in love. BRO.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I don't think you understand the highlights I watched.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I watched, I watched basketball, and I think it was
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: so good. He was watched the games.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Hands down, hands down, Russell Russell Westbrook greatest peak, greatest
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: peak of any NBA player.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: You know, we're living in the town of Nicola right now,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and shame.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I love I love.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Shade, I love Lebron.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: You could argue, but you go and watch Russ and
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: then go and watch and tell me who's more entertaining.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I would say, I would say, yo, no, no.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I love Jokic. I love Jokic. He's top five of
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: my favorite players all the time, maybe even top three.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: He's up there, bro, Why why is he top three
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: for you?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Because he's a nugge? He plays for the.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, we got a lot of supply here. Let's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: let's go back to football right here.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: So, Josh, I just started thinking about Russ. He's so good.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: So all right, is there anything you took away from
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: this Chargers game you want to move on?
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Josh, I just feel like it really came down to him.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: It's the biggest thing. When Justin Herbert has protection. He's
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: one of the best quarterbacks in the entire I mean
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: all quarterbacks are, but Justin Herbert to a different level,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Like he obviously has the talent to be on par
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: with the top guys as compared to the Trevor Lawrence sentiment,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: it's just weird, like he's good, he's too good to
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: get rid of, but he's not good enough to trust
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: to win big games. Like it's one of that weird standpoint,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: like and he just hasn't proved it yet. The thing,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: and I think when I was talking about it, the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: fact that he's been in big games, especially in college
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: and in high school and stuff like that, I think
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: it prepares him for the moments. But when it comes
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: to like the regular season game that you need to
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: win or that that you should win, he falls short.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: And the thing is he has the weapons. Now, Like
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: we were talking last I forgot who I was talking to.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I think it might have been Ryan he went crazy,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: but BTJ was doing his thing with mac Jones. You know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: he was able to put up the numbers that he did.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: But if we look at Trevor Lawrence, I mean, he's
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: he's not consistently getting it to his top guys, Like
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: he's consistently moving it. He's spreading the ball out around,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: which is what great quarterbacks do. But the thing is
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: he's not doing great quarterback things like and I feel
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: like if the Jaguars want to make that next step,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: it's all reliant upon his shoulders, like like Brecon said,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: and he harps on the defense, the defense, the defense,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: and so did Fonso. Their defense is good, like they
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: have good defensive linemen. I do reckons hatred for Trayvon
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Walker when he first came out was crazy. Still but
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: still he's pretty great, you know, Josh Henes Island has,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: but I feel like Johnshon Island has not been the
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: same as he wants.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I thought that Campbell trade was debatably the worst trade.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I like, I feel like that was not talked about
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: enough right before the trade deadline. Like I like Greg Newsom,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I think he's good, but I think, yeah, yeah he was.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: He had like what like Josh Campbell, he had like
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: what like three or four He had like three or
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: four picks on the Jackson before going over to the Browns,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: went to the Browns. He got a pick on the Browns.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: He may have even done more.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Like I don't amien Josh Campbell.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I do have a big forehead. Sorry, I was reading
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: the chat is breaking Josh Campbell. Bro I'm I'm white.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I'm losing hair. Yeah, guys, I'm holding on to what
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I got. But yeah, I think I think T Law.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I think T Law does not fit in this system. Okay,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: you want to know, would be crazy. I think if
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: you take Te Law and put him on the Broncos,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the Broncos are undefeated because he fits that system so
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: well with being able to hit the slot and the
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: tight end and like seed his running backs, just like
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: how bo Nicks is doing. But I feel like he
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: can hit the deep ball better than bon Nicks. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: feel like that's that's what separates I don't.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, I do think Trevor Lawrence is better than Bonnick,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: so I'm not gonna say you're gonna say you're wrong,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So I agree.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But also Trevor Lawrence he's more double agenty, like he
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: he'll throw that Pickason.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: No, No, bo Nicks has thrown some fucking hospital balls,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: and his his wide receivers be playing DV just as
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: much as they'd be playing wide receiver bro Yeah, no
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: questionable passes. I think Law does too. But I think
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I think Ti Law would would elevate in the Broncos offense,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: like if they swap teams.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't, I don't know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's just like two mid quarterbacks competing
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: at the same time, you know what I mean, we're
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: not even so good.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: It's like, do we think Taylor te law is in
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the same situation or is going to be in the
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: same situation as like a as like a Kyler, I say.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: More like a Price Young.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I think, I know, I think he's better than both.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Like the thing is, I think he's better than both.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I think right now, honestly, like him and c J.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Strautter are in the same boat right now, Like I
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: think they're both kind of just like they're both just
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: kind of those these these quarterbacks that are I mean,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: you build a great team around them, and you and
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: you just hope that they get the job, like a
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Jared Golf, Like he he should be playing like Jared Golf,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: you know, like he has the weapons around him. The
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: thing is, they're just there. Both of them are just
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: not executing. And you know, obviously CJ. Stroud's offensive line
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: problems are the biggest issue. And for Trevor Lawrence, honestly,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like for some reason, I feel like
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: it has to do a play calling, Like I think
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of it comes down to Liam Cohen and
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: him not getting on the same page. Because we look
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: at even Trevor Lawrence with Doug Peterson. He had his
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: best season and a half with Doug Peterson, you know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's if it comes down
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: to play calling and he's just not used to the
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: new playbook or just the new structure of how the
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: team is and it's really causing him to not do great.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: But I mean he's continuing to win games like and
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: they're in the right position, and when he when they
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: do need a big play, more often than not, he's
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: getting it to his guys. You know, we saw Trevor
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter have that big play when they were overseas,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: you know, and we saw what he did versus the
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs when he made big play after big play.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: And I just think that's what we're harping on, is
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: that he shows up when he needs to. It's just
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: in those little moments that just the minute, let's get
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: the job done, that's when he kind of fades away.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I could buy that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: As far as stylistically, they don't match up because Liam
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Cohen has always been the type as far as run
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and then gun sling down the field and Trevor l
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: is more methodically.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, like, don't care. I'm throwing it no matter
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: who's over there, like Patrick certain Prime Girl Reeves could
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: be on freaking Mike Sterling Shepherd. But I'm gonna slay
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: this thing, you know. So it's like Trevor Lawrence isn't
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: gonna do that, And I think that's that's the that's
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the difference, you know, one guy that's willing to take
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: risk while the other isn't.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's go ahead and talk about that right there.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I'm taking Baker Mayfield over many quarterbacks in the NFL.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Don'tlet start this except Sam Donald huh, except except I'm dude,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, But all right, very quickly, Bill's
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: bucks right here, right here, Bill's they improved a seven
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to three bucks, six and four anything from this one
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I think this is two top teams going at it,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: and one teams got hat the upper hand. Obviously, like
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: big game moments, who's gonna get the job done. There's
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: not many quarterbacks in the history of football that are
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: better than Josh Allen. You know that Josh Allen can
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: make big play after big play and put the team
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: on his back. And I think he did that in
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: this game, the Tambay Buccaneers played a great defensive game,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: like I think they did, Like it was really big
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: plays that really got them. You look at the run,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: the run, the run game. James Cook's been dominating all season,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: you know, and they held him to forty eight yards
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: in this game. But when you have a player like
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, who's who takes a lot of the attention away, dude,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Tyroll shavers bro has been on the practice squad and
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: been playing like he's played like four games this season.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: He had one big game a couple of weeks ago,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: but on Monday Night, I believe, but on this one,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: this game, he just pulled. He can get the best
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: out of anybody. I mean, we saw with Gabe Davis
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: time and time again in big moments he's gonna find
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a way to get the job done. And he just
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: did it again in this one. And even this one
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: without Dalton Kincaid, which is pretty more impressive. You know,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: his number one guy that he's been going to all season,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: and you know, Keyan Coleman didn't even play in this game,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: so he I know, he hasn't been much of a factor,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: but that takes away another weapon that you have on
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: the outside that could possibly do something, and he just
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: gets the job done. It's just there's a difference between
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: like I love Baker Mayfield, but there's a difference, you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: between the top guys in the NFL, like like Mahomes,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, even Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow at times, who
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: know when the when it's time to get the job done,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: We're gonna get the job done no matter what. And
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield has that as well. But the thing is
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: his physical I think his athletic limitations really come into
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: play when it comes to playing guys like Josh Allen.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: But on the other side, you know, Baker is gonna
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: give his heart, he's gonna put everything out there on
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: the line. But I think the main thing is Sean Tucker.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: You know, Sean Tucker really took took a hold of
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: this backfield this week at least, because I think there's
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: there's a really strong chance that this goes all the
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: way back to Earth and Bucky irvings back next week.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: So but for the time being, he held it down.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: But also, like Breckon was saying earlier, he really doesn't
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: have a lot of weapons you know, and a Mecca Buca,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: great All World rookie. You know, he's doing he's doing
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: what he has to do as a rookie. But you
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: got guys like Sterling Shepherd who literally have not has
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: not been on an NFL team for like two seasons,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: that have been bouncing around Pact practice squads.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah something like that was your.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Number one guy this week. And the injuries are just
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: hurting this football team, you know, Mike Evans out, Chris
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Godwin Junior, just I think he's out for the rest
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: of the season. Like there's no possible way he's coming back.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Like he came back for two a game and a
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: half and just didn't has didn't come didn't come ready
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: this season, especially just dealing with multiple injuries back to
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: back seasons. You know, So it's pretty sad to see.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think there's two great teams going at it,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: and just one came out on top and one had
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: the better player on the other side and that's the
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: one who won.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it was just it was it was I mean,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: it was an all worldly Sean Tucker game. He does this,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: you know, it seems like once a year goes for
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: over one hundred yards and and uh and a couple
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: of touchdowns. He did it to the Saints last year,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: absolutely fucking railed us. But he didn't do the Bucks
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: this year. You know, you love to see that. I mean,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Baker tried his best. Like Josh was saying, like, whenever,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: your only focus is a Mecca Abuka, like he is
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: a rookie.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: And rude to Lance random anyway right now, but.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: No, like I was saying, whenever, whenever you know your
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: defense and you're like, hey there, number one guy is
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: a rookie wide receiver, like let's just stuffocate him. And
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: you know, like Josh was saying, his athleticism, Baker is
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: decently athletic, especially for his agent size. Like he moves
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: better than most quarterbacks, you know, and he's willing to
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: take more risks, so he's able to do a little
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: bit of something. And I think that's what kept him.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: You know, his legs kept him in this game. He
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: converted he's down, Yeah, several times on third down, would
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: pick it up, ran in a touchdown. But I mean,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, there's a younger, more
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: athletic quarterback on the opposite side with a little bit
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: better weapons with UH with Josh Allen. So it's like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I know he was missing Keyon, but I mean that's
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: really not saying much. I think Shavers, I mean coming
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: in and you know, I love seeing a guy really
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: take his opportunity and go with it. Like Keon. This
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: is like like he's missed, like he's missed meetings before
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: they benched him for this game. And Shavers goes in
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I'm taking the opportunity and I'm running
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: with it, and you love to see that. And I
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: mean Shakir was like a non factor in this game.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: You know, he's a wide receiver one usually and like
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: like you said, Kincaid's been out and like a Knox
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: was like very disappointing. Same thing with Hawes or Haze
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: or whatever. And really it just comes down to I mean,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: we watched why Josh Allen was at MVP last season.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Six touchdowns, three on the ground, three in the air. No,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: he's not, dude, Lamar's I don't want to get into that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Lamar is better than Alan, but Alan did ball out.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Oh No, we can't get into it because Lamar Jackson.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson over the last two seasons, over the last
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: two seasons, only has two turnovers that were deemed his fault.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Out of every he has sixty touchdowns and two turnovers
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that were deemed his fault. That includes fumbles and interceptions
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: thrown two. Everything else was was either deflected passes, drop passes,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: tip passes, anything else that was a fumble.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Go look at what they did versus the Chiefs in
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. Both both players over the last couple of seasons,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: and tell me who played better.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: What about total touchdowns over the past two years, who
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: has more? Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. It's Josh Allen. J Yeah,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I mean was compared to zero. That happened today, So
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I don't have the exact stat on hand, but before
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: it was already like he was already.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Like twelve up.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I mean you could look it up. That's you can.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: But okay, Josh, while he's doing that, let me just
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: ask you. Let's just see, Okay, who do you think
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: is a better throw the football? Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Okay, Okay. Now, as far as mobility wise
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: in the pocket, would you rather have Josh Allen Lamar
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Jackson or you could say stagnant.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thinking of the same in the pocket. Outside the pocket, Lamar.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Running the football.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Lamar obviously the greatest running quarterback of all time.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, As far as if there's less weapons on the outside,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: who would you rather have?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen every single time?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, and now the biggest question of them all, if
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: you had to pick one, say you're playing a seven
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: on the Okay, sorry, Breckon, you got overruled here.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It's it's close, but Josh Allen's better.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm not gonna overhear say, oh, Lamar Jackson sucks
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I think Lamar Lamar is the only other player I
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: would take over, like if over Josh Allen, like Donald
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: taking because of Jason. You know, neither of them have
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Jayson on their team, So give me Sam Donald, but no,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: like like, I think it's Mahomes and and then you go,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I think Alan and Lamar. I think it's interchangeable.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, I got their stats up. For the last two seasons,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Lamar has played two less games. He has a better
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: passer rating. Okay, he has a better passer rating.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: He ain't taking field that's why.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean he's he's also opening up stuff
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: for Derrick Henry. So I mean there's that he's.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Gotten for James.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: He's got He's got i'd say, two hundred less passing yards,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: he's got seven more passing touchdowns, he has how many
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: less interceptions? Eleven less interceptions?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: And he is okay, okay for eighty seven to seventy three.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Just up there. Maybe Josh is onto something.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Pull up turnovers, pull up turnovers. Brother, I don't.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I don't have the turnovers I just had. I don't.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I don't have turnovers on there. I just looked up touchdowns.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: That's all I looked up. I mean, I'm sorry. I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: want my QB to get the ball into the end zone.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm worried about. I don't care with all
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: that other stuff that's involved right there. And I'm pretty
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: sure touchdown.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: You can throw nine interceptions in a game. But if
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: he has six touchdowns, hey, that's cool. I don't know
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: if you ever heard, right?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Six nine?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Is it exciting to see? It's exciting to see.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: No, it's exciting, but I love that. Okay, let me
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: ask you this. Okay, the fourteen touchdown difference. Do you
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: think there's that there's been that many turnovers that differentiate
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the two where it favors Lamar Jackson.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I mean fourteen touchdowns. That's fourteen times seven.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Right there, I'm saying, if I'm a team and I'm
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: playing against Lamar Jackson, I'm freaking out more than if
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I'm playing you.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Are you are? Are you really okay? So in playoff games,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson seventeen hundred fifty three yards and seven in
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: six playoff games. Josh Allen three thousand, three hundred and
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: fifty nine yards twenty five touchdowns to four interceptions. Lamar
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: jacks records the record.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: What's the records?
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Ten touchdowns and seven interceptions? Ten touchdowns is seven records.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: They play Mahomes every season. But if you think you
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: want to go toe to toe with Mahomes every season,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: the guy that has only beaten Mahomes one time off
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: of a fluke fumbled that they should have had a
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: field go off of. But the other guy that's undefeated
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: against him in the regular season, I'm taking Josh Allen
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: every single time.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, Josh Allen's good. I just like Lamar Moore.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: He just doubled his yards in the playoffs. When it matters,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't have I don't have stats.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I'm research for next podcast.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Josh Allen, if it wasn't for Mahomes would
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: have three super Bowls right now. And I will and
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I will stand by.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: That three super Bowls. Oh, do they beat the Rams?
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I think they do? Bro. I think Josh Allen is
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: that good?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Do they beat the Rams? Do they beat the Ninies?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Do they beat the Eagles?
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: At least has two super Bowls? Like, it's not like
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: he played Mahomes and played bad. Bro. Their offense elevates
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs. The chief just elevates to a higher level.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm defending Josh Allen right now. But
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: he's better Bro, Like he's better than Lamar Jackson, especially
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: when it matters.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: You think it's do you think it's the Mahomes Allen
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: or do you think it's Alan Mahomes Allen?
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Would you ask that question? And everybody else what kind
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: of question is that?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And Sam Donald don't forget about it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: And Sam Donald, there's not even a Sam Donald thinking
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: because we were talking like he asked me, Josh, who
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: would you take over Baker Mayfield? And he was like,
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: would you take Josh Allen over Baker?
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: No?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Who would you you start off with somebody? And I
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: was like hell no, Like I wouldn't take him over Baker.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I think he was like something Sam Donald's. He was
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like something Sam Donald's better. Yeah, he said something Sam
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Donald's better. And then he was like Sam Donald. And
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: then you Josh Allen, who was it? Because no, it
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: was Baker. And then you brought up it was what
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: about Sam Donald?
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Like Baker? Don't got Jayson.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, his new fan favorite is
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Now well actually speak speaking of that's perfect
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: time to segues. But I'm gonna name the standards in
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the NFC first right here, So NFC standings through eleven
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: games right now the playoff spots. He goes with the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: one seed eight and two Rams or eight and two.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears are leading the NFC nor seven in three,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the Bucks are six and four, and then the wild
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: card spot Seattle seven and three, Green Bay six three
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and one. In the San Francisco forty nine ers seven
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and four. But let's go in and talk about Josh's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: beloved Seattle Seahawks and Sam Donald right here, on which
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: they lost twenty one to nineteen for the lead of
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the NFC West. So exciting game, interesting game right here.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: What'd y'all take away?
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Talk about your boys? Sam? Bro? Come on, let you
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I love Canain got some touches, he got a touchdown
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: maybe dude, he got dude, he got to carry out
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: the one yard line. You have no idea how hiphe
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: But because they were trying to catch him off guard, Bro,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: That's how it was.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: It worked, and it worked. It didn't work that more often. No,
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I mean it was a great game. It's a divisional game.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I think that these teams will meet again in the playoffs,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: and I don't know if I think it would end
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: the same. Like I would love to see Stafford, you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: keep on balling out and doing his thing. But I
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: want to see these teams play each other in the playoffs.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And I think right now, if the playoffs started today,
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I think they are supposed to play each other first
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: round in the playoffs. But I personally think if they
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: do play in the playoffs, that it is going to
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: fall to Stafford, just because he you know, I think
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: he has teams a little bit better. At the end
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: of the day, I think they are just a little
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: bit better, a little bit better coach, and you know,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit older as we all know. And I
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: think that's kind of why they won today as well,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: or not today obviously Sunday, but yeah, it just it
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: just came down to they were the older, you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: more veteran team. Mister mister TD got his tds. You know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: that's just what Davante does. Man, he kind of it
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: kind of pisses me off whenever.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: It comes to fans with one touchdown, dude.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: That's literally he he should be leading the NFL on
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: touchdown receptions, eight targets, dude, he gets so many touchdowns.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: And this is a great defense and I love to
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: see that, uh, that this offense is able to, you know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: not just completely lean on Pooka like how they were
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, and you know, they're
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: kind of able to spread the ball out a little
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: bit more. Josh, kind of all I got for this game.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think this team is. This game was,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: but I mean the Eagles are kind of stepping up
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: to a horner of the level as this. I think
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: these last couple of weeks as far as for me,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: when I look at both these both these teams, for me,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: these were the two best teams in the NFC.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Four picks. I didn't realize that he had.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a pretty tough game.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I knew that he I knew that he had a couple,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: but I didn't think he had four interceptions.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah he had. He had a pretty tough game. So
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: we saw actually wide receiver one and two in the
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: in this game, number one JSN number two, Gunakua and
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: I mean obviously after Rashi Rice of course, but these guys, dude,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: it's just fun to watch, dude. I think I think
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: this was just good, good games going back and forth,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: and it came down really to the end, to that
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: final drive of the Seattle Seahawks and just a lockdown
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: by Los Angeles Rams. But for a second there, I
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: really thought that they were gonna get the get the
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: get get to the field goal with the Seattle Seahawks. So,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: like brick And said, I think if they were to
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: meet up again, this game looks a little bit differently.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I think both teams are figured out what both team's
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: gonna we both are gonna present. I don't think Sam
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Donald throws four picks again, you know. And the fact
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: that he threw four interceptions and they only lost by
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: two points, I think says a lot more about the
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks than it does the Los Angeles Rams that
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: even with these mistakes, their defense was able to hold
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: this high powered offense to only twenty one points. And
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: then it were being completely honest, like if this is
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: holding pooka nakua and check they were able to do it.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: You know, seven seven catches for seventy five yards just
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: seems like a good like a good day, like a
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: like a mediocre day, and pok nakua standards, and that
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: defense was able to do it. They really forced Air
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: to focus on the run game, but in reality then
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: they didn't even have a lot going on there. I
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: think this was just a tell of two good defenses.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: And then as far as with the Seahawks, with their offense,
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: there's a lot left on the table. Like Becans said,
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: the run game for Kaas Walker was clicking, but even
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: in this they were still trying to keep this balanced
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: offense going, especially with Zach Sharberonney. Balanced offense usually wins
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: more often than not than one than favorable sides. But
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: when you turn the ball over four times, you're you're
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: gonna lose this game. One last tournover, maybe this game
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: looks a little bit differently. And you know, A J. Barner,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about him for a second. I've
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: been like, I don't know, He's just one of those
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: guys that like is so random, but he's getting the
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: job done. And you know, especially in his rookie he's
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: a rookie this year, I believe, right, I think he's
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: a rookie. Is he a rooky?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So he's been balling, dude, And I feel like
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: every time I look on the screen, like he's doing
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: something good for this Seattle Seahawks team. And I think
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: it's good because I know they want Cooper Cup to
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: kind of take on that second role, that second option.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: I think with toy Horn coming back here in the
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: next week, and even with a J. Barner, I believe
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be a changing of who is that true
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: number two for the Seattle Seahawks, because I think Tory
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Horton right now is just offering so much more explosion
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: than Cooper Cup's able to provide right now, which is
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: super sad to say because we know growing up he
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: was one of our guys. But right now, I just
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: think if they get that explosiveness back, and I think
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: bringing in Rashid Shaheed, giving him another week within this offense,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: then the Seattle Seahaws are gonna look like a whole
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: different team come playoff time.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. It looks like Shahid
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: is getting more and more designed, like targets and touches.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: He didn't bring in everything this week, but he got
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: like the important plays like that that uh that third
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: down conversion, you know, to get them into that Google
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: range was a huge heads up play. But dude, Sam
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Donald four interceptions that looks so bad. I know, maybe
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: not all of them were on him, you know, with
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: pressure and stuff like that, but this is, I mean,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: it's the RAMS defense. You're going to play these teams
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs. You got to limit those turnovers. You know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: I've seen a couple of tiktoks with him and I'll
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: try to music in the background, so you know, you
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: want to clean that up. You kind of want to
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: clean that up, you know, and Stafford, I mean keeps on,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: keeps on doing his thing, pleading his h MVP MVP
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: case with more, more touchdowns and less turnovers.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: So no, so okay, as far as this, it was
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: just a clash of the Titans and two. I wouldn't
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: say NFC title game because again we're gonna talk about
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: feeling in a second, but obviously biggest story of the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: game is just a turnovers right here, just Matt Savage
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and turnover Sam donald is. And I'll say this, the
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks defense is championship contender. If I'll say this,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: like like you're saying, as far as Tory Horden coming back,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: is it gonna be Rashid Shaheed, the Seattle Seahawks are
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: consistent number two receiver away from being championship level contender
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, Jaysn yes, I know,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: he had nine for one oh five, but they're gonna
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: he it's gonna be just so many just it's gonna
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: get at the point I can't even explain it were
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: somebody else is gonna have to step up for them.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: And I know aj Barna, like you're saying, but you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: need somebody on the outside to make those players.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: Toy Horton like, I do think that last game he
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: played four catches forty yards and what two touchdowns in
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: that way like that, I do think that he's getting
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: better as the games go on, and even with Cooper
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Cup in some games where I think they were still
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: trying to feed Cooper Cup, like, I think they were
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: trying to like, let's make it happen. Let's make it happen.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: We gave you the contract, Let's make it happen. But
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: the thing is, Tory Horton throughout the season has looked
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: way more explosive. Yeah, he's looks a lot more. I
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: think second half of the season. We know this for rookies.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Second half of the season for rookies is breakout time.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: And I think Tory Horton is gonna be one of
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: those guys second half of the season that starts to
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: break out.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: And one last thing before I we get onto the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: next game or if you'll have any more points. I
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: just feel like, like you're saying, playoff football experience it
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: does matter in the NFL and just being in those
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: type pressure situations, and these guys have been in these
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: exact situations compared to Seattle, where it's.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Other than Sam Darnold, it's his first.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Time last year the playoffs.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams, they've been in plenty of big games,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: so this is nothing different for them. And really last
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: year they're won great Jail and Carter play away from
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: being in the NFC Championship game. So they just they're been,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: they've been in this moment, and they got Devonte Adams
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and their defense. Now I'm I'm saying this is potentially
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a top five defense in my opinion. I know, I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: was kind of struggling at first, but Seattle before this game,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: they were scoring thirty forty points in like the first
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: half of games.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: So Seattle to Seattle's defense has to be arguing up
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: there as well.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: You know, Like like I said, yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: So Rams to twenty one points while they've turned the
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: ball over four times on the offense's amazing, dude, that's insane.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Like I just think this is I think this is
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: just two Titans going at each other, and you're whoever
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: just has the upper hand and wins the turnover battle
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: was gonna end up winning this game. And it happened
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: that way. You know, because even on that last drive.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Let's be honest, bro, there was that outside. There was
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: that fifteen yard game real quick by Sam by Jayson
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: looked effortless. That twenty one yard yard game by Jayson
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: again looked effortless like he was. They were. They were
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: getting what they wanted at will and questionable. They held
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Jayson two times in a row like to end the game.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't called one yeah either time, but hey,
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: they were that they were just that close to winning
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: the game even with four turnovers. Like and I'm not
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: saying that they should have won the game, but this
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: game as a whole show that how good both teams
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: are in both situations. But I do think that one
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: less turnover makes a difference, you know. So it's, you know,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: just two good, two good teams going at each other.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Do you guys know if they scored off of I mean,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: not every single turnover obviously because only had three touchdowns,
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: But I wonder if all their score came after turnovers.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I would almost bet my bank on it. They didn't
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: have a lot of them, I was looking at it.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: They didn't have a lot of total offensive yards like
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: at all. No, it was just over two of the rams.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: The Rams only had like two hundred and fifty offensive yards.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, they held. They held, Like I said,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: they held. If this is holding Pook and the couh
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: and check, they did a good job. You know, seven
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: reception seventy five yards because I mean, no one holds
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: them in seven They.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Were two for eleven on third down. Yeah, it was
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: literally just.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's just the biggest thing. The Rams cashing
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: in the end zone. Rams cashing in the end zone.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: One turnover battle.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: But what.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: You know, that's what I'm saying, Like the Seasons had
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: a bad day.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see, I know they play I think
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: in three weeks or so. It's going to be interesting.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: And this one's gonna be in Seattle. But let's go
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: in and talk about this other clash of the Juggernauts
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: in the NFC Sunday Night Football. Another defensive fest right here,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles versus the Detroit Lions. And what's the Eagles
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: They win sixteen to nine right here. It was just
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: a touchdown that pretty much won them this game fairly early.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: So would y'all take away from this other good NFC matchup?
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Breaking Josh, oh, dude, I mean yeah, it was. I
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: feel like the game's gonna get a lot of shit
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: because it was like such a back and forth, just
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: kind of scrappy game. I think it's more of a
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: tail of defenses than it is bad offenses. I mean,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Jared Goff looked lost, and it's because the Eagles have
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: debatably the best D line. That Phillips trade is looking
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: better and better every single week. He's he's going insane.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: He's gotten the sacked every single game is an Eagle,
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: and he's creating so I think he's averaging six pressures
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: a game. It's insane how efficient he's doing. And you
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: know he's meeting up with his old DC that gave
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: him that great season over there in Miami, so it
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: makes sense. But like, I mean, they completely stuffed the run.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: They got two giant, freak athletes in the middle, and
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: then you got you know, Nolan Smith and Phillips on
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: the edge. It's like, you can't run against these guys,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: you can't pass because they're jumping up in batting passes.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you the reason why Jared Goff looked off
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: this game is because you have Jalen Carter and Jordan
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Davis up, jumping up and smacking the ball back into
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: your face. Nothing will piss you off more and get
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: you off of your game as a quarterback as getting
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: a ball swatted multiple times back into your face. It's
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: the most irritating shit. And then and then all your
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: targets are off your your passes are getting tipped and
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. Am and Raw. He had like what
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: like like twelve or fifteen targets and only hauled into
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: two catches. It was insane and like things were off
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: and it's not like, oh, these passes are barely out
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: of his reach or they're tough catches. No, Golf was
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: missing him by five ten yards and like missing Gibbs
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: down the sideline on that wheel route that would have
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: been a gimmy touchdown. He burnt the shit out of
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Zach Bond and Jared Goff overthrew him by like six yards,
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: and you're like, come on, dude, But I think it
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: really just came down to that whole entire defensive front
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: for the Eagles. They were creating so much pressure and
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: getting in Golf's face, and you know, Golf whenever we
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: all know he's got one of the best no lines
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: in the NFL. Whenever he's got time, he looks like
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: an MVP candidate. But whenever he's getting these passive squatted
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: back at him, and if you're able to mess with
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: his mental game just a little bit, he looks off.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: And he looked very off this week. I think it
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: was a huge controversial call at the end of this
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: game on that third downplay whatever they called the defensive
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: you know PI, that was such a bad call, And
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: to be honest, I think the Lions would have went
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: down and maybe scored.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Listening to O T.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: But still, I mean that you've got to drive on
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: that Eagles defense. And they were doing Yeah, they were
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: doing everything all day. I mean Hurts had you know,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: had a decent day. He didn't do nothing.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Crazy A J.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Brown, I don't know why you're crying. You're getting a
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: ship ton of targets. And he dropped some passes in
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: my opinion, like he like, yes, they're contested, but you're
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: a J. Brown, like you're DeVonta Smith. Both of them
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: had some drop passes in this game. And T Higgins
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: would George would have caught it. George Pikett, Yeah, No,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: But I mean Saquan is getting a lot of work
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: this game. He looked good big SB. I wish he
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: got some more Burnie only got four carries for thirty
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: four yards. But I mean, yeah, really just it really
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: just came out of these defenses. They looked absolutely insane,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: extremely well coached, extremely well coached.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think nailed it, nailed it down, you know,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Like I was. I was harping on in the chief
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: the trick for Jalen Phillips for a while, because I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: mean I knew he was a dynamic and me, Fonso
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: was like the contract the injuries, I'm like, dude, no,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: he's different, Like he's one of those guys like if
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be looking at Jaylen
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: Phillips as one of the top past rushers in the NFL.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: And I think I whole hardly stand by that because
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: what I would watch from him. But literally the game
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: that he tours ACL, dude was I think he had
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: two sacks before he got hurt, you know, literally like
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: he was having a game and then and I remember
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: ever since that day, I was like, no, that guy,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: if he comes back kind of the same, he's still
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: gonna be a great player in the NFL and it's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: annoys me. But I also respected that Howie Roseman just
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: plays Madden bro Like, he just plays Madden while running
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: an NFL team, Like don't like. It's like, Okay, I'm
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: not doing no scouting. Who's the biggest name available, I'm
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: taking him. Who who's available in the trade market. I'm
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: sending a draft pick for him? What do you want?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Second round pick?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Here?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: You go, send me who I need. You know, it
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: may work out, but more often times may not work out,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: but more oftentimes than not, it does work out. And
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: that's why the Eagles stays so good because their GM
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: is willing to take chances like the are. They are
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: willing to put themselves in a mind whether it be
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: contracts financially, but they find guys that want to be there,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: which is the crazy part too. They find guys that
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: are willing to stay there no matter what. And then also,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: and I think that's what helps this defense. This defense
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: has grown because they have just the best players on
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: the field at different positions. Obviously, the cornerback position could
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: be better. Losing Darius Slay was a big hit, but
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: outside of that, I mean Cooper Dejean's bawling the defensive line.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: If you have that type of defensive line, it does
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: not matter who's guarding you on the outsides. And at
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Jared Goff, I think Jared Goff is elite at what
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: he does. Like he's elite at what he does, you know,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: dissecting the defense, getting the ball, putting the ball where
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: it needs to be, and making good decisions. But like
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Breckens said, when it comes to the pass rush, this
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: is where he struggles. When there's constant pressure over and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: over and over again. This has been the biggest knock
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: for Jared Goff and what holds him out of being
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: in the top five tier. I think I think that's
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: what this is what realistically holds him out is that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: the athleticism hurts him because he can't make the big
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: plays when the big plays need to be made with
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: his legs or just moving around in the pocket, going
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: to the outside, making a pass on the run. He
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: can't do that like a Josh Allen, like a Mahomes,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: like a like a Lamar Jackson, or even like a
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow or Dak Prescott, like a couple of these guys.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: He can't make those type of throws but he's more
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: elite than a lot of them when it comes to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: standing in the pocket. But that pressure. Every time Jared
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: Goff has seen pressure in his career, this his offenses
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: have hurt really, really bad. And I think no one
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: talked about it enough. Some of the guys that he
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: lost on the offensive line this season, like a Jonah
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Jackson and a couple of others really hurt. And I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: think we're didn't Frank Ragnow retire or something like that,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: like someone retired something like that on their offensive line.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: So and it really shows this because this is multiple
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: times we've seen Jamiir Gibbs get kind of halted rushing
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: the football like this is at least the third time,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: I believe, like it was last week and visually the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Kansa City Chiefs where he just they just did not
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: have the existent run game. And I think it hurts
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: them as well, because that's the Detroit Lions ability to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: be able to balance out the offense and get things going.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: And the crazy part is since the rushing wasn't working,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: they actually threw the ball. Let try throwing the ball.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: They had less receptions than they did rushing yards rushing attempts,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: which is insane and it was only twenty one to fourteen,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: and that's going to hurt your team every single time.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: When I think this is what may hold back the
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Lions more times than not from winning a Super Bowl
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: is Jared Goff's inability to make the big play when
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: the big play needs to be made, or just take
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: over a football game in general. Like he just does
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: not have that ability.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Well, Okay, to add on to that last point right there,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like you nailed that on the head. But
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I just say, any quarterback, especially any m mobile quarterback.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: You could even go back to the Brady, the man
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: in the breeze, what affects him the most. That's an
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: interior presence because you could always find a way to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: step up into the pocket. You can step into a throw,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: but when the pressure is coming inside and you're not
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback, you cannot step into a throw. And
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: when they're batting down your passes. I think this is
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: This is coming from a Cowboys fan who has Quinn
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Williams Osa and Kenny Clark. This is the best defensive
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: tackle duo Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter in the league
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: by far, because Jordan Davis he's finally tapping into his
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: full potential that everybody was hoping for two years ago,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: two years ago in the middle and yeah, like you
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: have to you have to decide, are you gonna double
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter Jordan Smith.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: You know you're picking Jalen Carter every single Yeah, and.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: You're picking Jalen Carter.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: And if you happen to double both, you're leaving Nolan Smith.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: You're leaving Jalen Phillips the one. And that's not even
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: including the blitz.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: And I just want to say Zach is like one
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: of the best blitzing linebackers too.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's just ridiculous. And like you even have the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: other guys. You have Jehad Campbell, you have Kenyon Mitchell,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Cooper dejen and you have the safety Andrew mccouba, who's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: been a revelation for them. So their secondary issue at
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, it's that's done. That's done
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: for this is clearly the best defense. And somehow their
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: defense was the best last year and now they're even better.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: So I'm just I just don't know.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how bad the Eagles offense really is
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: when your defense the Lions offense was averaging thirty two
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: points a game against good teams, against good teams, and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: they just came to a complete stop.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: So I just want to ask you.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Guys, do you think at all the Eagles offense can
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: hold them back, because at this point, I feel like
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: there how the defense is playing as of right now,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's going to hold him back
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, I.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Don't think so because I think Josh Allen shows up
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: in big or sorry, Jalen Hurts shows up. Sorry I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: was thinking about earlier.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: Lamar right there, you know.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lamar shows up. No, Jalen Hurts shows up when
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: it's important, as we've seen every single year, and I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: mean he balls out when he needs to. And you
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: still have debatably the best running back in your backfield.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Like I know that that O line hasn't been as
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: good as they were in the past, but you still
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: have Sakwan Barkley, you still have AJ Brown, you still
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: have Smitty. I don't care if you're like, oh, they're
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: not scoring as many fantasy points as I wish that
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown was scoring. It doesn't matter, dude. Whenever it
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: comes down to it, is they need to play.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: You would be crying. I know he would, bro I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: know he would like with these and Kenneth walk Yeah
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: every week every week. No, he doesn't care.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: But in reality, But in reality it's like, can you
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: ask the Eagles offense to do anymore? They're winning games,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: like they're not losing games because of their.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: You can you can't ask them.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I mean you could always ask for more. You could
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: always ask for more, but it's not like they're losing
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: games because of their offense.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: I mean I don't think their offense is doing good
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: enough to okay. So I think there's been multiple times
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: this season where they've run up on a team out
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: or even where they've been ahead and they've almost lost
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: because their offense is inability to be able to spark
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: something new, but they're already so far ahead, like those
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: are at the Buccaneers. Look look at the Rams. You know,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: these guys had really great games against the Philadelphia Eagles.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: They were able to really get the offense going, and
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think this is the conference to do that.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Like in a conference of high powered offenses, the NFC
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: is full of them, you know. So, and you also
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: got to think too. The San Francisco forty nine ers
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: right now, they're kind of gonna be back, you know,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: like they're gonna be back here pretty soon, you know,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: and they're gonna be back to full health, and they're
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna be another dynamic offense with a good
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: defense as well. I don't I don't think the Eagles
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: can have too many. Maybe they can't, but I may
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: be wrong. But just like I said, with it, just
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: like the Chiefs last year, I was really ignorant when
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: I was saying no, like it doesn't matter because their
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: defense is good enough to hold them. And it held true.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: But when you got to the Super Bowl, you saw
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: what happened, you know. And and I do think that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: the Eagles have to figure out something. And I think
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: it starts with Saquon Barkley in the backfield. Like I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: don't think it has anything to do with Jalen Hurts.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: It has more to do with what are we gonna
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: do behind us and how are we gonna get this
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: guy manufactured touches that allow him to make big plays
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: and give them big opportunities to win football games. Because
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: because if Saquon Barkley is clicking on all cylinders. There's
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: not many teams in this NFL that would be able
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: to stop them as a whole. I mean, because he
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: still looks explosive, like I think Saw looks explosive. He's dude, Literally,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: first guy trying to tackle him looks like he's struggling
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: every single time, you know. So it's like, bro, it's just.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: First one free.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: He needs many factor touches. He needs passes out of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: the backfield, because when Sakuon Barkley is good, there's when
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: Sakwon Barkley is being Saquon Barkley. Bro.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: I do think he's been ramping up weekend week out.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: He's like he's looked better these last three weeks than
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: he did at the beginning of the season. I think
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: some of that might have to do with how many
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: touches and how you know, dependent they were on him
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: last year. But like I really thought that you guys
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: were going to kind of go in on how Jalen
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Hurts has been playing. And I looked back at their
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: two losses, which was the Broncos and the Giants, and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: in both some of those games, Jalen Hurts two touchdowns
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: in three hundred plus yards, Yeah, both of those games.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: So it's like it's it's not Hurts and then in
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: both of those games had less than fifty russell yards.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I do think losing your offensive coordinator, bro, you're never
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: like you're never gonna You're never gonna do It's gonna
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: be pretty pretty tough to do. Like it's the offense
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: does not look as explosive as it has been over
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: the last couple of seasons. You know, Like, and I'm
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: not saying Jalen Hurts is back. I think Jalen Hurts
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: obviously gets the job done. But there's a lot of
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: stuff last year where it just looked great for Jalen
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: Hurts because A. J. Brown was constantly open, to Vonta
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: Smith was constantly open, and now and then you had
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: even let's look at the backfields. You know, the backfields
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: were more dynamic the last couple of seasons, even with
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift, like Miles Sanders, DeAndre Swift, Miles Sanders had
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: a great season. DeAndre Swift had a great season. I mean,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift had a better season than he's having right now,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: you know, And that's that's a lot same because I
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: think Deandrew has had a great season this year, you know,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: so or great. No, he's had a better season than
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: he did then, but he was still very very good.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: And you look at Saquon Barkley last year. I mean,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: there's not many history historical seasons that were better. So
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: I do think if they get back to the run game,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be right back in the NFC Championship facing
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: a good team and it's gonna come down to the wire.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think they're gonna blow because whoever
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: gets to their deserves to be there as well, you know,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: so it's gonna be an exciting playoffs. I just think
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: that they need to figure out that run game before
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: they get there.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I think they're gonna be If they don't make
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: NFC cham Championship game, it's gonna be a disappointment. And
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I think they could make. They're the one team I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: could say they could make a championship game and the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: offense can still be struggling. That's how confident I am
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: in the defense, and I say it won't be till
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: the final two games where it's like, okay, now we
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: need to see the offense do something and like Brecken
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: was saying, some guys are just playoff risers. Jalen Hurts
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: is a playoff riser. His stats say go up. He
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: goes from a top ten quarterback potentially up to a
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: top five and albeit a top three quarterback in the playoffs.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: So there's that X factor right there.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler of football, Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jimmy Butler of football. But but all right.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: Boys mid all season then gets the playoffs, he turned
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: to a different animal.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: No, no, for real, I mean he's better than Russell
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Westbrook in the playoffs. But all right, let's go ahead
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: and get into our our last thing right here. I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: think this one it might end up quick. Let me
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: end up sharing my screen right here. We're gonna do
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: a tier list of the NFL teams right here, and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: if it ends up shown for everybody listening on Spotify,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: you can't you guys can see it. So the first
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: one is super Bowl favorites, super Bowl contenders, playoff teams,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: potential wild cards, missing playoff teams, mediocre at best, young
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: budd intriguing, number one pick contention. So we have to
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: agree to this, and I think we know with this
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: first one right here, the New Orleans Saints where they're going.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Number one pick.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa, and we're not gonna do young
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: but intriguing on that number one pick, who one Giants?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Are they young but intriguing.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: Numbers are young but intriguing.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: What about the Dolphins? They have four wins now so media,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like mediocre.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: And what's crazy. What's crazy is I think that they
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: could win like four of their next five games.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: The Dolphins Browns for me, are young but intriguing. Like,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: if I'm being pretty honest with.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: You, should should? I mean they have a defense.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not looking at the quarterback for this. I'm looking
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: at like quin Shawn Jenkins. I'm looking at Cedric Tillman,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: Isaiah Bond, n haeryld Fannon, like the Dylan Samson Like
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: they have guys on that offense wo could be real playmakers.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: And I just think they're honestly, they're quarterback away, bro,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: like the Browns have always been a quarterback away.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: But the line they need an old line. If the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: Browns are listening to this, somehow happens, please draft o
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: line before you draft a quarterback this year. Please do
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: you have like I would rather have Dylan Gabriel or
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: schandor Sanders going out there next season with a solid
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: ass O line number one they could draft.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: Like, I think they're better than both those teams right there.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: Not Neither of those teams have the defense that the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: Browns have. And that's you know what I'm saying.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Don't draft a quarterback. You said that they're a quarterback away.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: I disagree that line is still are they.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Still are.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Ir season?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: They still need a competent argument.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: I literally said they're young but intriguing, and you're like, no, no,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: and whole he.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Said they're a quarterback away and they're not a quarterback
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: away at all.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: I think they are.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: All right, let's cut Jets their number one pig contention.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: We're not even gonna discuss that one, all right, Well,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: we'll just go in order from right here, like from
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: the next ones up right here, Baltimore Ravens.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: Grab the team. Yeah, I'm saying.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: Raiders, Raiders got to be number one pick contention, Ravens.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with potential, potential, potential wild card.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: That's me, brack.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, That's where I'm at with that there.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Five and I think they're a playoff team. I think
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: they're a playoff I think that they can. But I've
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: said this from earlier whenever Lamar Jackson was supposed to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: be coming back from his injury and they snuck a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: win out right before he came back. I think that
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: they can be a playoff team, and I think that
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: they can win their division.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: I was right there with you.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Somebody else on this pod, he wasn't buying that train
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: right there. I've been right there with you. So you
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: know what, you know what overruled who would majority We're
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: gonna go playoff team.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: I have to agree. I think the Stillers suck compared
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: to the Ravens right now, like their division is used
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: to be. This division is ridicled with freaking injuries, Holy.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: And now Rodgers, it's broke.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: I didn't think that they could win that many games
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: in a row, you know, and now that they have,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: like it's more realistic than it is. So I'd have
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: to agree with you.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: All well, but all right, Cincinnati Bengals, I'm personally me
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling missing playoffs or mediocre.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Mediocre at best. I mean, the defense is absolutely terrible,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: you know, injuries. The only promising thing is Chase Brown,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Jamar Chase, and T Higgins Like, I think that's the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: only thing that you make up happy about being a
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Bengals fan on Sundays.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: And Chase spended a game for spinning on Jalen Ramsey.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: I kind of agree with Josh. Mediocre at best. You
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: can't have a defense that bad, and you think that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: you're even close to the playoffs.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Time for an interesting one,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: right here, Dan.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: Start them in the damn playoff teams.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Bro, Are you sure there's not super Bowl contenders or
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl favorites? Are you nine to two top of
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: the division super Bowl contenders? I'm saying super Bowl contenders.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Instruct I'll put them in a playoff team because I think,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: had to head, I would rather have the Ravens.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: M hmm, okay, okay, I can see that. Okay, how
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I see how you're leveling that up. I was thinking
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: like home field advantage, home field advantage, and Denver Pats
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: certained back.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: But okay, I get that logic.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Next one, Minnesota Vikings. This one, I feel like I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: feel like they might be in that mediocre tier.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about JJ McCarthy Brickon take it away, Yeah,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: go ahead.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Nine number nine.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: What do you mean nine addressed by his name? Bro?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Come on, that's serious.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: He's not nine bro, Bro.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: It's a different little bit rough out there. He's looking
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: a little bit rough out there. I think on the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: same page and Luke, but like him and JJ are
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: just not on the same page. I thought last game,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, JJ, like Jetta's breaking his routes
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: off too early. Not nine album will refer to nine
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: by his name, all right, JJ is jettas and uh, dude,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: nine was missing him. Uh, I forgot who they played
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: the week before.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Negative? His name is negative nine, bro, negative nine.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: He kept on missing him, and I was like, dude,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Jefferson's not running his routes correctly, like he's breaking these
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: things off too short. And now I think I.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: Think it's McCarthy Jefferson because I was like, in my mind,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, he's like he will run a corner route.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, why is he breaking this off so platt?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: Why is he ain't high on this.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: Like just Jefferson needs the ball, Jam McCarthy, don't go.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: I agree with you, Josh. I agree with you, thought
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: at first, and then after this game, I'm like, oh, yeah, no,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: I was fucking completely wrong. It's got it. It's gotta
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: be hi.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: No, it's not, it is it is.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: It is Aaron Jones, but Aaron Jones, but Aaron Jones.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: All right, we have the l a Rams right here.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders, very okay, okay before super Bowl Favorites
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: is just two teams. I feel like it will only
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: be right if we do one NFC and AFC. I
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: know we already started this, but that's that's only right.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: That would be that would be my super Bowl favorites.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: That would be my super Bowl favorites.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: I I will talk about it when we get there.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about it when we get there.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: We can move it around.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, I'm not talking about that.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: I had a whole nother thought in my mind. But
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: we'll keep continuing, all right.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Well, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers right here, I say wild card,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: because yeah, I would say wild card. I'm over here,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: think I'm over here thinking the NFC West. Still, I'm
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: over here thinking the NFC West still.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: No, okay, okay, they're losing some tough games or just
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: some tough opponents like they like they're not. They're beating
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: up on who they need to beat up on, you know.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: So if they are one and done in the playoffs
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: I think some of these things are one and done,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: So Okay, well, all right, this next three teams right
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: here kind of did this on purpose.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: The NFC North.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: You have the Lions, Packers, and the Bears. Right so,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: right now, the Bears have the lead right now in
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: the division, and they play Detroit again and and green
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Bay again.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like I.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: Have the Lions over them.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: I have the Lines over the Bears.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Comfortably have the Lions as a playoff team.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I agree having one.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: That I have the Bears as a wild card. I mean,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: could three of these teams make the playoffs again, I.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Think it's going to be NFC West and North. They're
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: going to dominate this.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's gonna be I think, honestly, it's
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: gonna be the the Seahawks, dude, crap, the Niners. Dude.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Holy we could move this around. We could move this around.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: This is potential. It's not saying they are wild card teams.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: So you know, I think I'm comfortable putting both those
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: teams in the potential wildcard spot.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, potential wild card Green Bay in Chicago.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. The Bears are winning these games. They
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be. And they have the pope on their side
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: they have on their side, Josh.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: They do have the pope. They do.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: We got just there. I like the Bears over the
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: Lions just because of them.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: I was a Bears believer.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know too the one that I'm a Bears guy.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: I'm my baby. Goat my baby, goat my guy.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: Broh.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Now, but all right, we have the San Francisco forty
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: nine ers right here. They I feel like they have
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: to fall into wild card just because how good Seattle
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: and the Rams are.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I want to put them in playoff teams.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: But you're I think you're right. The two teams above them.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mean, I think the defense is too injured. It's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: got to be wildcard.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: It don't matter though, Like that's the crazy part.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: I understand that it doesn't matter right now, But I
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: think what I.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Like the wild card spot super Bowl super Bowl favorite.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, now let's get to it.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Because Breck and you said you want to have them
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: as your super Bowl favorite. The Rams, so just give
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: us a reason why over Philly.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: I think the Rams have a better offense, a more
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: complete offense. Just that's kind of what it comes down
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: to you. I think their defense are wolf really good.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: I think the Eagles defense is a little bit better.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: But I just I just like to lay a little
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: bit more. They got Adams, they got Pooka, they got Kyron,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: like they got Stafford. I mean Stafford right now, if
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: he keeps on playing like how he's playing, he's playing
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: better than Aaron Rodgers did in what was it twenty
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: twenty whenever he wanted in sant And like, if Matthew
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: Stafford just keeps on doing what he's doing, I don't
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: see any team stopping him. And I know, I know
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: we say that Jalen Hurts plays up to these games
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: and all this stuff, but it really I think it
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: could just take one mistake. We know that their run
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: game has been lackluster. The Rams were one of the
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: best teams whenever it comes to stop in the run.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, but one of the arguments you made earlier
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: about them over the Seahawks was that experience. I mean,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: Rams experience don't even compare to the Philadelphia Eagles. When
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: it comes to winning big games, when it comes to
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: get into Super Bowl, when it comes.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: I feel like these guys are just about equals.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: The Eagles just one last three years and four straight
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: and three straight in NFC championships. Like, I don't. I
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: don't think it's the same.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: It's it's not the same.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, yes, I see that, but there are guys,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: like there's several guys on this team that have been
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: to Super Bowls.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's several guys on the Eagles who.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: No, I agree, I agree, But I feel like these
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: these guys, like that's the argument for the Seahawks because
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: they know that game.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: You're looking at the argument, I think there's a clear
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: gap between the defenses. Like I mean, if we're looking
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: at it's a very clear like I think, horrible. Well,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: if we go player by player, I don't. I don't
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: think there's a separation like that much of a separation,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: So I.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: Have to lean towards the Eagles, and.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not I'm not mad with it.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I'll say this pendon Lane Johnson's health, that might flip
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: it for me, But as of right now, me thinking
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Lane Johnson is still gonna be playing playoff games for them.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be the slight edge for the Eagles in
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: my opinion. That's that's how close it is. But since
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Lane Johnson he's not out for the year, he's just
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: dealing with the injuries. That's where I'll go with favorites.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: My thing is like with the Eagles, week in week out,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: we're like, oh, they left some on the table, like
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: we want to see their offense do a little bit more,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: and we haven't. We haven't said that about the Rams
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: offense or the defense.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: I don't think we expect the same from the Rams
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: that we do the Eagles, though.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: That's very true.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's it's debatable.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: No, but all right, well, oh three nasty teams right here.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: L A Raiders number one pick contention. I don't even
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: think they're young and intriguing at all.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, number one.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: That hurts you, the Washington Commanders media, they're not.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: They have to be mediocre. Yeah, all right.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, this is where I this.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: I think they're Yes, they fall in them.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: I think they're young and interesting. Yeah, I think it's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: not weapons. You know, they got like try McBride, Marvin Harrison,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: the real, real Stanford receiver, Michael Wilson, not that guy
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: talk about they haven't and they have Trey Benson. I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: think Trey Benson. I think eventually he's gonna have a
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: bigger role. They made you running back.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: I think we need to move the Tommy's down to
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: number one pick dude.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: To come back.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: They but they don't think he will.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: I don't want.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: They're more mediocre than they are number one pick contention.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I feel like they're not as
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: bad as those other four teams, Like I'm used to them,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: Like they're okay.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Like I feel like we need to both the Saints up.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: And that's not even being biased. No, it's not.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: Literally made a tier for the Saints this year that
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: said Sints.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: It was above and it was above the number one
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: overall pick because it was better.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm yeah, but they were the tier.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Like that was the exactly he did in his own tier.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you have two teams competing for a Super Bowl,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: but you only have one Saint. So just saying we
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: get our own.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Category, Yeah, that's that's just how or.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Just that good or that bad that bad.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: No, you're reading into it wrong, you're half half off.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a real Stanford receiver, Arizona, a real Stanford receiver.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: No, but all right, Next one, the Pittsburgh still is
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: right here. I have him in the missing playoffs team
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: right here. I think Baltimore takes this over. They still
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: play Baltimore twice this year. And now broke can risk
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about that isn't baby Will don't like.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's out, but I'm pretty sure
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: he's an old man. So yeah, broken Risks, broken bone
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: in his wrists.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: And that's all.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah season, but all right, the Buffalo bill is right here.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: This is the playoff teams, right.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the playoff teams. I feel like there's been more
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: times this season where they've disappointed than they than they've
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: done better. Like I was gonna say, just do due
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: to what they've done. But I do think they are
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: a playoff team, Like I do think there's they're for
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: sure going to be in there, like they're not, you know,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: like there's not they're not there's not a potential about it,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: like they're going to be in there.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I agree. Next one, Atlanta Falcons. Now Michael
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Pennock's out for the year with the torn a c L.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: That don't matter to me.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: The dirty birds out of here, Get the dirty bards
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: out of here. Put him down there, Put him down there,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: and who's got that number one overall pick? Put him
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: down there? What are you doing? Dude? They're not young
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: but interesting what they're young? They're young, dude, is the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: fucking same age's my grandpa?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: Come on, they're young and a literal favorite.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: They're closer. They're closer Put him for the number one
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: overall pick than I think the Giant Cardinals.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but I'm saying the Giants Browns as many
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: as the Cardinals, bro.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: But their season is done.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: And they and they beat in some pretty good They
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: played some pre team big teams hard and being some
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: of them. So I don't know, Like, I think they're
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: young but intriguing.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: I'm in the sad speak the Panthers and Giants, Giants, Giants, Eagles.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: So and you have them winning the Super Bowl?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: All right, next one?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: I like that logic there, All right, excellent Seattle Seahawks.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's much disagreement here, right reckon?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the Shaheed edition really pushed her
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: over the edge for me.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: All right, New England Patriots, this is where it gets
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: interesting right here. We know they're a playoff team favorite.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Oh their favorite.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: There's only one favorite out of the a FC, Like
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: that could only be one favorite, I guess, just an inexperience.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: You're right, You're.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Do it.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: I know, I.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Don't know what you're doing.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: Reckon, put them in the favorites. I have them in
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: the fat.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Drake may put him in the favorite
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: super Bowl contenders. But but I kind of do too
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: because because that defense doesn't intrigue me enough, you know
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: what I do. So I kind of want to put
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: the Colts. But to talk about like I don't see
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: them going.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: You know, who's the best team at stopping the run?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: The New England Patriots are they I don't know, look
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: at that as they're really good at it.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: So the Colts they're super Bowl contenders.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in my mind the one the most complete teams
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: Jones have. Daniel Jones had five turnovers and they almost
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: came back and won that game on the last.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: Drive right there, they almost had four. Yeah, they almost
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: came back and won.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: All right, right in Houston, Texans missing. Okay, I say
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: missing playoff team.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: I think we might have playoffs.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: They're five and five.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let's put them there missing playoffs. Like I
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: don't know why I thought. I know my mind went
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: straight to like Jaden Higgins, Nico Collins, Woody Marks, you know, like.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that amazing not that amazing defense right there, but
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Woody Marks and Jaden Higgins.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Those guys are dogs, bro, Not Will Anderson coming.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: Going like fifth overall or something.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: No, No, you're not like Traylon Stop if you're trying
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: to rage it, it's not working, Josh.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: All right, right year, the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: Since we can't put them in Super Bowl favorites obviously anymore,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: I think let's put them at the end of the
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: playoff teams. Like I I do think that the Chiefs
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: will end up making it. No, what do you mean,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: like they literally after that they have the most experience.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: They're gonna get into the playoffs.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: Bro, They're not worst record than the Panthers.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: They do have a.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: Playoff.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: Is this the NFC or the AFC reckon? Is that
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: the NFC or the AFC?
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: What about the Cowboys? They're they're up there with the Cowboys.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: They're right there, We're only one.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: It's a two game difference with the Chargers, Like you
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: guys have to pray that the Chargers like lose a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: couple and you guys like that. That was a must
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: win game for you guys.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: It was all right.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: When the Chiefs go twelve and five, we'll talk about it.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: I think I think that their potential wild card. I
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: don't think they're like.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: A loft yeah out bar again, because.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: The Broncos are what fucking four games?
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: Four games? Four games? Four games.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't say that they were going to beat the Broncos.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: I said they were going to make the playoffs, like
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't say anything about.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: I think they're a potential wild card. I feel the
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: same way with them about how I do with the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: I would say the Niners are more than the Chiefs
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, h no, all right, next one right here,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy was I know, I know you guys don't
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: have to rush to CDIA contenders.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: I know I know you guys would.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: Have to rush to say it kidding, I don't know,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: missing I say.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Missing playoffs. I feel like, yeah, if we.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel confident beating Philly, but
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like if we win one or two of
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Detroit or Kansas City, they could make a run to
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: miss the playoffs.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: But close.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: That's my that's what.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: I do think.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Showing Chavon Revelle bro oh my, I.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: Think they you guys drinking, don't overreact to the Raiders
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: game like I did.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: So I am on this cowboy juice, you know what.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: No, but my offense is, oh, he's getting the hair.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: I can't wait for the Chiefs to go tweve and five.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: It's going to be magnificent.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: Your guys just schedules, not even crazy either, Bro.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: All the injuries were so back.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: I forgot about the cowboy hat. I know I was
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: missing something something.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: That way way till the Chiefs go twelve and five
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: and y'all eat y'all's words.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: Eleven and six.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: Y'all are losing on Thanksgiving on your birthday, bro, I'm
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: sorry to break your news to you.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: Eleven and six. Second, see, I think we loose to
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: the Colts eleven and Cowboys.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: Cowboys. Yeah, wrong team with the Sea, but yeah, you
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: you got it right.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: For the team. I think with the Chiefs, it's going
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: to come down to like these divisional like tiebreakers, Like
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: they're already win a game behind them. I know what
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: the best you can do is go even that's my points.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: The best you could do like like, and you can't.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: So they go eleven and six bricking and they missed
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: the playoffs.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: That's why it's potential wild card.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they make wild card.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: I think what other a FC teams do we have?
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like the a f C. I feel like
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: the a f C this year is just so lack
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: luster compared to I happy.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the larger they should.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: They should be right next to each other because I
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: think with the injuries and stuff they like, I feel
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: like they're almost in the same boat as the Chiefs.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: Like I get that they're a couple of games in ahead, but.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny, I feel like we have to
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: put the Jaguars and potential.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: They beat the Chiefs head to head.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: And the playoff team. They're first in their division, they're not.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: Oh no, they're out their second to the Colts.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget that they have the potential wild card team.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: If the Chiefs are right there, they're one full game
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: ahead of them, and they got the tiebreaker.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: You know who still fit to the super Bowl?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: All right, bro, we know you're slipping Vegas money, man, you.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: And we have how many teams ahead of them? So
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, oh my gosh, dude, the Cowboys schedules coming
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: up is kind of crazy.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: It's the bis Chargers.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you win all those games, I'm picking the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: Cowboys to win the Super Bowl.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: Oh ship, dude, crazy, you.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Know you know it's gonna be craz We are gonna
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm drinking that Cowboy juice tonight. Baby, I'm
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: drinking that freaking cowboy Err.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Joe, Dude. I swore when Quinn Williams got that sack, bro,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: I thought he tore his Achilles bro because he went
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: straight to grab people.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: But he was putting his shoe back on.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked bad, like it looked like one of
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: those like he looked like in the position that dudes
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: get into when they hurt, when they tear their.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: That would have been that would have been just ended
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: now brof.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers, Hold on, wait, hold on.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Wait, Before before anything, I just want to say somebody
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: who's been Breckon. He's been a bryce young guy, just
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: giving you guys updates. He dropped him in Fantasy football
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: for Tyler was on a bye.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: His young card like he can't no more.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: Go on, go on, go on, let me explain.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: You drop him for somebody who's on a bye week.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: Let me explain. I have Drake May as my QB one.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not dropping Drake May. He's one, He's you can
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: motherfucker all right, I'm keeping him. I'm starting him. Weaken
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: with drop? What is what is Drake bye week?
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: He couldn't drop.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: He could have dropped, dude.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: I literally almost had to start Elec this week. My
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: whole team is injured. I have Garrett Wilson, Chris olave
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: BTJ all out this week. Last was my wide receiver one,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: and didn't he go out. Darnell Moody was like my
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: highest scoring receiver.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: You could have dropped Jalen Lane, you dummy.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: He loves Jalen Lane.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: Just three quarterbacks?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: Why not breaking like it's an.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: Okay? They have the same bye week, Drakes.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: You couldn't drop Luke musk Graves.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: That was mainly despite you, because I know, just.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: Out of fight, like I'm not letting you.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: Why Luke musk Grave because I know you don't have
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: a tight end.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: I have two tight ends. Who fan in his ERTs?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: Why would I start Luke mus Graves over them?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking Dynasty because you have craft right.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still have Mark Andrews, David Njoku and Zach Ertz.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: I made trades, Bro. You thought I was gonna sit
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: on my ass? What the freak bro trade for Kobe
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: Brisset of all people like.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: The commission, the colluding commission.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Hey, it's just when you get to that barbership, Bro,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: you just don't know.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: It's just it's just Bro. It's like it's just you
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: like you like your cup. Man. Oh dude, it'd be
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: so nice if this was free. Huh give me ashing
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: genty for a first? In a second?
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: You know, no, actually, he says, He says, you're looking
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: as a salesman.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: There's a reason why Brect didn't make it as bro.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: He needs to go to these other things to make
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: the sell. Like all I did was say, hey, make
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: the trade, and dudes were down. That's it. That's all
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: it takes right there.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: You're not approachable and pleasant, Bro, you give crappy trades.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: You get trade Benson in a second for Brisaw. I
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: think it's a good deal, dude. Don't even argue it's
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: a good deal. Don't even argue it's a good deal.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, dude, no way, no, for a rebuilding team.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: And it's a high second. It's not like it's a
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: low second.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: No, it's basically a first.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: But all right, Carolina Panthers right here, missing playoffs. They're
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: six and five, they have a better record than the Chiefs.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: It doesn't mean nothing in the NFC, bro, like the NFL.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: Just stay in fact, I didn't say nothing about the playoffs.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: I think they're missing playoffs.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: I still miss Bro, like barely.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: Like I love to see them offensive tet offensive breakout game.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: Holy dude, I want.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: To see them going to run like. I want to
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: see them going to run like I really do.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: But I think.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: I want to see I want to I want breaking
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: the feel that the Saints are the worst team in
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: their division, Like, like.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: What do you fucking mean, bro, we have we're the
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: worst team in the NFL. What more do you want
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: me to do?
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: I just want I just wanted to hear him.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: Plowing me in the back and you're like, yeah, let's
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: get another one in there?
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: Are you shipting me?
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: That's all I want?
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: No, let's let's have him start pulling his hair too.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: He's already fucking he's already nine inches in, Bro, what
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: more do you want?
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: That's our dear list right there, from Super Bowl favorites
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: to the Saints.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: So all right, where if the Cowboys end up with
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: the same record as the Saints, I'm talking the most ship.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: Don't worry. I won't. I don't worry. And we were.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: Supposed to be this bad, all right, I'm not even mad.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: I'm fucking happy.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: The von Achen's the MVP.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: That's who's the MVP of the league last two weeks? Literally,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: he's everything for them.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Well, all right, before we get out of here, we
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: do our so called MVPs of the week, one guy
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: that stood out throughout the week?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: Josh, who's your so called MVP of the week.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: Come back to me, Bro, I don't know, breaking who's
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: your Actually, no, I don't know.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: You go to someone else, go ahead, I of course
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going with the five foot eight, the relatable, the
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Brice young baby. He shows up and he's the opposite
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: of two. I was thinking about this earlier. He's literally
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: the opposite of two. Oh my gosh, I'm literally gonna
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: pick him up the second I have a.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: Chance, the opposite of I'm picking hi up to I'm
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: staying up.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: I'm staying up. I'm gonna hit him refresh. I'm hitting refresh.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: You just wait. He's the opposite of the two bro
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: Like Tua, whenever you say, hey, bro, you're playing like shit,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: pick it up. You fucking suck. He's eh, I sucked.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: Brian fees this don't mean to me. Get him out
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: of here, right? Bryce Young opposite Bryce Young? Oh my gosh,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: we should bench him. Andy Dalton should start over him.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: What does he do? Fallout? Playing at the MVP level
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: to end the season last year, going into this game, everyone, dude,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Bryce looks so bad. He hasn't had a good game.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: It seems like every single first quarter he's got to
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: throw an interception or have a turnover in the first
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: quarter before he does anything. What does he do? Go
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: out here, breaks the franchise record for most single for
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: most passing yards in a single game, unlocks the Ted
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: defensive makes Xavier look at look like a first round
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: pick just absolutely balls out unlocks his defense against the
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: number one pass defense in the NFL. With these young
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: edge rushers and some of the as DB's in the NFL,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: the Falcons are a very very good defense whenever it
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: comes to the past. And what if I do hang
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: up for fifty on them, hang up four to fifty
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: on them?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: Did you say es we didn't you just say that
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: that they were like they sucked, and like, well.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because I'm a safe fan. I don't like
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: those gurdy birds, but I will admit that they are
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: a good like they're a good young team.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: You didn't you didn't literally were making bro, they fucking suck?
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: Well, who gives this ship? Dude, They're not going to
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: win a playoff game, you know what? To make the
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: the Saints are gonna the Saints are going to win
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: a playoff game before the Falcons. You could you could
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: quote me on that right down, definitely, right down, right
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: down to win a playoff game. Watch, we're gonna be
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: twenty five years down the road, like.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: The fucking you really good?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: More likely the Falcons win a Super Bowl before the
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: before the Saints get their first playoff win.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: No way, Josh, shut up your brome. Why are you
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: hating on me so much? You love to see a
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: guy fail all the time.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Like if Joe Burrow Josh Allen just sucked
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: for the rest of their careers, I'd be happy. I
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 4: gotta be the happiest man. Like like if.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: As long as they do better than Lamar Right, yeah.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: The rest of his career too, I would be happy.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: Like I don't care Baker or Sam Donal Baker or
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Sam or Do or Sam Darnle.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: All right, Joy does not like Bryce because I like him.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 4: No, I like Bryce. I just don't like you. There's
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: there's just.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: Whoever you like I don't like because you did you
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: finally find one, Josh.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: Actually, I'm gonna go with the guy that lost the
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: football game, by the way, and I'm gonna go with
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. Fifteen catch, one hundred and eighty five yards,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: a real Stanford man, not a guy named Elick Ao
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: suck a Maynor. I'm going with Michael Winson, you know,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: because he just wins the catches fifteen receptions one five
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: yards more than Elick has combined all season. So yeah,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Michael Wilson this week from my
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: so called MP the week because he's just majestic, and
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: to be honest, I've been a Michael Wilson guy for
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: a long time. In this year, there's documentation of this.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: I just kind of gave up this season because but hey, hey,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: I'm better early the party than late, you know, That's
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: all I'm saying. So Michael Wilson, a real Stanford man
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 4: over elick Ao Maynor. That's my MVP, so called. I
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: like that, a real Stanford you know guy, great Stanford
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: man in that forty nine Ers and Cardinals game, Just
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: saying yeah, no, no.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: But no, but all right for my so called MVP, obviously,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Cowboys player.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: I got my cowboy hat on.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: And there's many different guys that are for the denmination
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: Obviously there's a Dak Prescott. Obviously there is that, and yes.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: There is a guy by the by number three of
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: George Pickens.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Nine.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: I wasn't a toutter, but.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the guy with the debut.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: Quinnin Williams right here actually made the Cowboys defense looked
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: really damn good.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: He had six pressures the second half, and.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: Mark spended next week in bb B.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Bro, no way Williams from making this defense look.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: Good. I know it's the Raiders.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: I know it's the Raiders, but we couldn't stop the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: damn Cardinals the week before. But GP three, that is
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: a great nomination right there.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: But you should see it anytime. He like a high
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: school girl. Oh my gosh, I jump and scream like
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: a high school girl that just got asked out to
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: problem or homecoming. Bro. I love seeing GP three just
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: go up. Did you see that one handed cast that
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: didn't count? Dude? I was screaming, Josh, Joshlyn thought I
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: broke something. I was, Dude, He's so good. I love
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: GP three so much, bro.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, I was gonna pick George Pickens, but
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: you know, since we're going to antipe record antipe RECONDVP.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: But all right, guys, any last words before we get
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: Good night, man, God bless you.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course, of course, but all right, before we
• 1:49:50
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• 1:49:56
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• 1:49:58
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• 1:50:01
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