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#294: Hatchet 2 (2010) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? You.
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  Can't kill a ghost. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favorite. And least favorite?
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  Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fanbase.
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  You don't always. Get it?
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  My name's Travis. My name's Jesse.
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  And welcome, everybody. We are doing our Patreon voted
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  episode for this month and you guys asked for it.
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  We're doing Hatchet too. That's right.
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  Continuing where we left off back in like the first week of
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  our podcast. Yeah, seems like.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a long time since we
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  talked about old Victor Crowley, who does do.
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  So here we go. We're going to do it.
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  But before we do, do you have any announcements I.
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  Do It is with a heavy heart and the acknowledgement that as
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  humans we all grow and learn over time that I must issue an
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  official apology to Ray as portrayed by Freddie Prinze
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  Junior. And I still know what you did
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  last summer because I'm pretty sure we made fun of him really
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  hard for how excited he was about his electric toothbrush.
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  And we got Sonic toothbrushes on sale this week, and I've been
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  talking about it to everybody who just doesn't care.
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  Including you guys. Yeah, so I I'm sorry, Ray.
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  I get it now. You.
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  Do owe him an apology really it is a life changing event it it
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  makes a wild difference. Like my teeth feel dentist clean
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  right now. They do.
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  Me too. It's impressive.
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  Sorry, Ray. Yeah.
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  You were right. You were right to love your
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  toothbrush, and you were right to talk to your partner about
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  how much you loved your toothbrush.
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  You were wrong about a lot of things.
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  Yeah. Not that one.
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  Not that, yeah. All right, well, now that we've
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  got the elephant out of the room.
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  Now that our consciences are cleared.
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  OK, I have poles for Influencer, which was the movie we talked
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  about last week. We wanted to know how long would
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  you last on an uninhabited island?
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  And we why was uninhabited as the descriptor?
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  Because we could not come to a a conclusive conclusion whether
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  it's a desert island or a deserted island.
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  I. Know the game is desert island
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  but like deserted island sounds right because it's not a desert
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  because. That's yeah, because that's how
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  you're describing it. But like on the Internet, I was
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  like, no, it's desert island and I just don't know who is right.
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  So we. Uninhabited.
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  Uninhabited. That's that is a correct way to
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  phrase it. So the options were zero days,
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  seven days, 14 days or a 30 plus, 50% say 0 and 50% say 30
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  plus. So we got people who have no
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  confidence of people who have absolute confidence.
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  I'm going with a no confidence group because I don't believe in
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  myself. I'm not a survivor.
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  Same, I like my creature comforts.
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  I I couldn't do it. OK.
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  All right, well, I'm glad that we got that established.
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  We can not count on each other for stranded.
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  Together. No, I need my.
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  I need my electric toothbrush. Yeah.
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  OK. So that's it.
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  Let's get on into Hatchet 2 then.
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  OK, All right. Hatchet 2 premiered August 26th,
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  2010 at Frightfest with its wide ish release December 3rd, 2010.
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  We watched it on our DVD, our well loved DVD that we got from
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  Half Price Books that is bang the fuck up, but it still works.
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  Yeah, OK. If you want to stream it, you
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  can watch it on Prime Roku Channel, Hoopla, Fandango at
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  Home, Philo Screen Box, and I think that's it.
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  OK, If you want to rent it, you can rent it on Apple TV, Amazon,
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  YouTube, or Fandango at Home, which I don't know why you'd
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  rent it on Fandango. You can watch it for free on
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  there. Dang it.
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  Fandang it. Fandang It written and directed
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  by Adam Green, music by Andy Garfield and special effects
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  makeup by Robert Pendergaft. OK, which was kind of cool
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  because he worked on the 1st movie, he was kind of like a a
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  student of John Carl and Buchler and Adam Green really wanted him
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  to do like he wanted him to take the leap and become a lead
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  himself. So he really pushed him to do
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  that for this movie right here. So I like that.
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  Yeah. He started it in his his aunt's
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  garage. He's like fuck it, I guess I'll
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  just do it in the garage. And that's how he got his start
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  in the business. All right, starring Daniel
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  Harris is Mary Beth. Tony Todd is Reverend Zombie
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  Kane, Hotter as Victor Crowley and Thomas Crowley.
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  Harry Shin is Justin. Tom Holland, the director as
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  Bob. Yes, not new spider man.
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  No, yeah, RA Mahalov. I think that's how you say his
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  name, right? I don't know.
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  We've met him so many times and I've never actually heard his
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  name said out loud. Well, he's Trent.
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  AJ Bowen as Layton, Alexis Kendra as Avery, Ed Ackerman as
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  Quedus, David Foyes Chad and Colton Dunn as Vernon Jesse.
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  Time for our favorite game on show budget.
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  I mean, it's Adam Green, so I'm gonna say it's Buck Ted.
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  No shade to Adam Green. I think he's a great director.
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  He's just, he's an indie. Darling, Yeah, I mean that's his
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  area right there. And you are correct, it is Buck
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  Ted. I do have the figure.
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  It's 800,000. Dang, not even a MILF from a man
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  here. Opening Box Office 52,000
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  Worldwide gross 156,000 IMDb score 5.5.
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  Rude. I I would say rude too, but I'm
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  happy that it's above 5. That's OK for IMDb.
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  OK yeah. All right, so I have 3 movies
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  from 2010 that we're going to compare it to.
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  OK, I have a theme. Swamp horror.
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  Swamp horror. Horror.
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  Swamp. You're a swamp horror.
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  I I can be so movie. The 1st 2 movies are actually
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  also Los Angeles based. I Spit on your Grave as the
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  first one. That one came out June 17th,
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  2010. I know you're not a fan of the
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  that genre, that sub genre of horror there, but it's a big
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  movie. It came out yeah.
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  June 17th, 2010 budget of 2 million worldwide gross 1.2
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  million IMDb 6.2. So it's got a decent score too.
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  2nd movie. The Last Exorcism that released
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  August 27th, 2010 with a 1.8 million budget, $69 million
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  gross and a 5.7 on IMDb. Final movie.
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  I'm making a bit of a stretch here but I had to make this
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  work. Piranha 3D.
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  Not exactly swamps but we do. I feel like see swamp like areas
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  in this. Really rude to their towns
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  tourism. I, I don't know, like, do swamps
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  exist in Arizona? I think they can if you try hard
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  enough. I don't know I we watched a
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  whole series of bog videos. We did and.
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  I said, where do you find a bog? If you want to find one.
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  You. I don't know.
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  You'll find it I. Guess the same is true with
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  swamps. That's true.
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  Yeah. That came out August 20th, 2010.
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  24 Million Budget 83,000,000 Gross 5.5 IMDb OK, have two tag
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  lines, the one on the poster. Hold on to all of your pieces.
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  That's smart, Victor Crowley, do be pulling people apart.
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  Yeah, he really does. He like he's a fan of that
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  technique for sure. The second one, Victor Crowley,
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  lives again. I thought the whole thing is
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  that he's a ghost. So I guess that's the, I think
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  that this is kind of how it is like he killed him, he lives
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  again, he's a repeater, It's going.
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  Yeah, but is he actually alive or is he ghosts?
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  See, we're getting the the metaphysics of this become very
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  questionable. It's like that thing from Scary
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  Movie 4 that we watched last night.
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  Like how are you going to be a zombie?
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  No. How do you turn up missing?
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  Yeah, that's what it was the. First one was like how you wake
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  up dead. That's how you wake up dead
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  right there. Yeah, he's like, how are you
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  going to turn up missing? You can't turn up and be missing
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  at the same time. Exactly.
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  It's the same type of thing there.
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  Yeah. All right, so that's it for tag
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  lines. I've got some fun facts though.
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  OK, so. Oh boy, you got lots of notes.
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  Yeah, I went to the good old special features on the DVD.
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  Old Faithful there love them. And with the being Adam Green,
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  you know he actually. Actually gives a shit, yeah.
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  So this is the exact same team that worked on the 1st movie,
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  which was cool because the first movie for a lot of them was like
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  the first real movie that they made.
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  So they have had five years since then.
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  This came out five years after the first one, which gave each
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  person five years of experience in between then.
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  So like their attitude between coming like to this one compared
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  to the last one was like the first one.
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  They were all like Oh my God, we're making a movie.
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  And now this time they're like, OK, OK, like, here we go.
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  We've got all the drums, We're doing the movie.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever.
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  He wanted to address the criticism of the body count of
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  the first one, which I never really thought was a problem.
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  I thought that they had a pretty good amount of people die in
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  that movie, but they practically tripled it for this one right
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  here. All of the horror vets were
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  super excited to work together in this year.
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  They felt secure working together.
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  There wasn't like any competing egos or anything like that.
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  And they all like exchanged stories with each other in
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  between sets and stuff like that, which is kind of cool.
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  Tony Todd was probably the most interesting 1.
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  He he had a great attitude. Apparently.
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  He was super cool with all the people there.
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  People were like nervous. Like one of the guys that the
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  guy that played Chad was talking about how he was so nervous to
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  be like working with Tony Todd. And the guy talked to him.
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  He's like, you know, that feeling that you get whenever
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  you're doing this. So you got that in your summer
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  right now. He's like, yeah, yeah.
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  A guy. He's like, if you ever lose
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  that, stop acting. Oh, wow.
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  Some good, powerful advice right there.
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  But one of the best things is he would always mark up his scripts
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  with all kinds of notes. He wanted to know a lot about
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  his character, Reverend Zombie. Apparently, he would text Adam
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  Green at all hours of the night, just like with random questions
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  about it. And one thread of texts was Adam
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  Green's favorite, which was he texts Adam at like 3:00 in the
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  morning. He's like Adam and he like he
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  says, he reads all these in his voice too.
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  So like he was like trying to imitate.
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  He's like, does does zombie know magic?
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  And then Adam replies no, he's a con man, he doesn't know magic.
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  To which Tony Todd replies, does he think he knows magic?
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  And he's like no, he's a con man.
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  He doesn't think he knows that. He knows that he's tricking
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  people. To which Tony Todd replies, can
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  he think that other people thinks that he knows magic?
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  And to which Adam Green finally rolling into and said, sure.
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  So he's like really into that right there.
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  He wants to know his characters. It was kind of cool.
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  I love that this is all like 3:00 AM Thoughts.
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  I know, yeah. Picturing Tony Todd rest his
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  soul. Like sitting there up at night
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  thinking how am I going to get into character for Reverend
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  Zombie? My favorite thing is the fact
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  that like, I want this guy to like have some kind of dealings
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  with magic here. Can people at least think that
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  he thinks that he knows magic? Like that's like some deep level
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  shit right there for your character character.
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  So one of the first scenes that they shot was with Mary Beth
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  doing her showering. And it was a funny moment.
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  They thought that she was wearing pants in the shower
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  because like the they had like the whole curtain there and
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  whatever. And they kept like getting
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  closer. They thought it was like the
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  lighting or something like that. And then eventually they found
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  out it was her tattoo. So how do I flip around?
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  It was kind of like a funny moment on so.
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  And Speaking of Danielle, she actually read for Hatchet 1.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  And they ended up using the other person for Mary Beth, But
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  they said that it became clear that things were not going to
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  work out with the previous actor.
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  So they ended up going with Danielle for this one, too,
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  which the reason they didn't use Danielle And the first one is
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  Adam Green wanted to have her, but one person talked to Adam
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  was like, hey, you already have so many horror icons in your
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  movie right now. Do you want to keep adding more?
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  Like, it's going to be distracting if you keep doing
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  that. No, I kind of got in, Adam Green
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  said. I was like, yeah, you know,
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  you're right. Fine, We'll just use unknowns
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  for this right here. It's.
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  Like it's horror icons for horror fans.
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  Exactly, Yeah. Like this is a horror fans
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  horror movie. It is, yeah.
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  Which that's kind of cool because like, that's why they
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  end up going with Dark Sky Films for the distribution for this.
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  They were one of the only studios that would let them make
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  the movie that they wanted. Like he he said that he wanted
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  this to be for Hatchet fans and everybody else that they talked
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  to would like ask him like, OK, so like a lot of people didn't
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  really like the first one. How are we going to get those
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  people? Like they wanted to just try and
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  like bring on a new audience. But Adam and the team really
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  wanted to just kind of care and tend to the Hatchet one crowd,
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  which kind of is why they did what they did there.
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  Tom Holland actually took this out to that whole vibe that he
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  set on the the set there. All of the cast and crew were
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  just like gushing about Adam. He like gets super excited when
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  he's on set there behind scenes. Like any time they would rap
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  cutting, he would just like shout.
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  He'd be so excited as if he's like watching the movie himself.
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  The final thing, they actually shot all of that swamp footage
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  on a sound stage. Really.
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  Yeah. This is not a shot in an actual
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  swamp. They actually built the sets.
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  That's really interesting. It is, yeah.
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  I was confused because I saw it in the behind the scenes and it
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  wasn't until like a decent bit in there that it showed that and
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  I was like, holy shit, like this is actually not a swamp right
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  here. I thought for sure that they'd
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  be like, filmed that on site. Well, cuz I know in Victor
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  Crowley at least they did because Oh my God, why can't I
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  think of his name? Dave Sheridan.
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  Dave Sheridan. Yeah, cuz he was telling us
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  about how he felt so bad for the women on set because they were
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  wearing like skimpier clothes and he had on his big outfit.
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  So he put on a like scuba suit type thing underneath his
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  clothes and when he was in the water so he wasn't freezing, but
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  he didn't tell his castings that because he felt really bad that
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  they were all shivering and freezing and they had no way to
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  hide A scuba suit. So I just assumed all of them
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  were shot on location. Yeah.
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  I don't know if that was like a thing.
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  Like if it's an experiencing, like he felt like he had enough
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  work under his belly. He's like, I think I can handle
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  working in the elements. I could see that because you
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  can't. There's so much you can't
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  control. Well, but then again, before
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  this movie he did Frozen and that was shot entirely like at a
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  ski watch. So also that, yeah, yeah.
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  So that was not faked. Maybe he was like, I don't want
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  to do that shit again. I'm working inside this time.
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  OK, all right, so that's it for my fun facts.
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  It's some good stuff. They seem to have a lot of fun
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  making this movie, which I'm glad.
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  And I can see that, like, we met Adam Green at Scarefest last
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  year, and he was just like, honestly, we just sat and
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  chatted with him, and it was just like talking to another
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  horror fan. Yeah, he was like a guest that
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  we were there to meet, but he was just so excited about
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  everything. Yeah, he was like super excited
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  about our costumes, too. He tagged the Halloween cosplay.
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  He's like, cool. Yeah, no, he was an awesome dude
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  that we met, him and Perry Shen also, who was also super cool.
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  Perry Shen who re watches all of the Hatchet movies before
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  conventions because he wants to be able to volley with whoever
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  he's meeting because he wants. I felt under prepared when we
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  met him. I know.
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  Oh my God, it was. Like.
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  Honestly both of them super cool people like had great
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  conversations with them. I if you ever see them at a
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  convention, I'm 100%. Absolutely.
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  Reaching out to them. They they are they are worth
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  whatever weight there is in line.
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  Yeah, exactly. Which there wasn't really a wait
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  for. We went because we went early.
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  Yeah, yeah. But yeah, super cool people.
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  Yeah. All right, so I guess let's get
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  on into our good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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  Jesse, what did you think of this movie?
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  Oh man, there's a lot good that I like about this.
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  I think it's funny that you said that this movie was for Hatchet
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  fans cuz I'm kind of so so on the 1st.
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  I have a weird trajectory with these movies where I love them
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  more as the series goes on. I know that's surprising.
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  I love the first hatchet movie, but like, apparently it didn't
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  connect with a lot of people. I don't know.
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  That's what it they made it sound like on there.
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  But I love this one. I love that we just jump
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  straight into it. I love when a sequel does that.
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  Another like recent one that I think of that does that really
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  well is Smile too. Yeah, I, I like the way that
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  this one does it more 'cause it's like immediately like the
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  next frame, like you pick up at the very ending of that one.
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  It like screaming right from second one.
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  It's. The only thing that's like a
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  little bit off putting is if you're like marathoning them and
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  IT actresses. Yeah, that's true.
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  I like that it does that, and I like how it ends really abruptly
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  too, and that's how it's gonna pick up in the third one.
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  Because you can tell like, okay, they're gonna do that for the
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  third one then. Yeah, I love the spot, the
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  horror icon, cuz some of them are just also smaller parts too.
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  And you're just like what? And we get nice little like nons
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  to other movies, like they joke or like they reference directly
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  Jason Voorhees, which is funny because of Kane Hotter and
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  Leslie Vernon. And we realized that in this
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  universe, Kane Hotter is like multiple characters because he
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  three people. He is Victor Crowley, he is his
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  own dad, Thomas Crowley, which is still the funniest fucking
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  thing to me. And I think that was my favorite
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  part of the first show. Yeah, it still stands to be
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  true. And we know that Frozen is
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  canonically in the same universe because Parker is seen on the
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  news in Reverend Zombie Shop, which means that he is.
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  The guy that did like he was driving a truck on the.
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  Mountaineer, yeah, he is one of the ski lodge workers.
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  And also they reference Jason Voorhees, which means that those
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  movies exist in this universe, which means Kane Hotter as an
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  actor exists in this. Universe I didn't even think
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  about. And then if you think cuz Jason
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  goes to hell has been out at this time and he plays a medical
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  person like Kane, hotter is the hatchet first.
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  It's just Kane, hotter all the way down.
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  No turtles. Yeah, no turtles all came.
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  It's all came hotter. Yeah.
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  I love that. I love how like, we're pretty
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  sure you're I forgot the actor's name.
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  He he's in Parks and Rec. Oh, that was shit.
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  Where did? Where did that?
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  Where did you put your? It's underneath here.
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  It's Colton Dunn. Colton Dunn, he is so funny and
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  we are 90% sure that he was just improving all of his stuff on
• 18:25
  the boats because like the stuff he was saying, it just felt so
• 18:30
  like. It was, it felt, improv.
• 18:32
  Yeah. Honestly, yeah.
• 18:33
  And he did a good job with that. He was really funny.
• 18:35
  He's funny in Parks and Rec and I just get like after seeing him
• 18:38
  and it's like he's just like a funny guy.
• 18:40
  Yeah, this is just him. He's just funny.
• 18:43
  And I like that. We like, we had an interesting
• 18:46
  story. We built on the lore with this.
• 18:49
  It didn't ever feel slow. I mean, there's a couple of
• 18:52
  times there's like back and forth in the swamp, but we
• 18:54
  didn't ever go too long without like a kill or something that
• 18:57
  moved the plot forward in some way.
• 18:59
  So I just think this is really, well, I think that five years
• 19:02
  that you said, I think it made a really big difference.
• 19:04
  They got a lot of experience. They all had a lot of experience
• 19:06
  and I think Adam Green was very comfortable in himself when he
• 19:10
  got to this one. Yeah, man, you like said a lot
• 19:14
  of the things that I had for my good here, so I'm going to just
• 19:17
  try and go over what I had here. First off, I think the comedy in
• 19:22
  this movie is fantastic. It's actually funny.
• 19:24
  Like there's just like so many like small lines, like you said,
• 19:29
  like Leslie or not. Vernon no Colton Vernon, the
• 19:34
  character is. Really funny.
• 19:35
  But I don't know, there's just like a lot of funny moments that
• 19:37
  happens in this. The kills are super creative.
• 19:40
  The effects for the movie are really well done.
• 19:44
  Like you said with the horror vets.
• 19:45
  I thought that that was good usage because usually whenever I
• 19:48
  see these, like, cuz like Adam Green, he's one of those people.
• 19:51
  He's a super fan turned director.
• 19:53
  And, you know, you see a lot of those people get horror icons
• 19:56
  for the movies. And I feel like a lot of times
• 19:58
  it doesn't work out because you can't.
• 20:00
  Like, I feel like it's really hard to get them to buy in.
• 20:02
  Intimidated. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:04
  It's easy to be intimidated by them.
• 20:06
  Like you let them take control. But also I feel like it's hard
• 20:09
  to get some of them to like buy in sometimes too.
• 20:13
  But they. Actually like do the roles
• 20:15
  really well in this movie, which I really appreciated.
• 20:18
  Like you, I appreciated the crossover and the end jokes of
• 20:21
  everything. I really like the Leslie Vernon
• 20:23
  1. I feel like they need to like
• 20:26
  weave this shit together and like actually build a cohesive
• 20:29
  little universe here, up and coming directors.
• 20:32
  Like having a swear, a shared slash, reverse or something
• 20:35
  like. That that would be awesome.
• 20:37
  Yeah, just like, you know, if like you're in, you're in, like
• 20:40
  you can make a movie and you can attach it to these properties
• 20:43
  and everybody, it's cool with it.
• 20:44
  You know, it'd be kind of sweet. Yeah.
• 20:47
  And I feel like it has like a really short runtime, which I
• 20:50
  feel like really helps with the pacing overall.
• 20:52
  Yeah, It knows it doesn't need to be a long movie.
• 20:55
  It does what it needs to do and gets out of.
• 20:58
  Here, yeah. And I think that's something
• 20:59
  that we've talked about on this show a lot, is movies not
• 21:03
  knowing when they need to end. Like, they feel like they have
• 21:05
  to hit a certain amount of minutes.
• 21:07
  And it's like, if your story doesn't need it, your story
• 21:09
  doesn't need it. Yeah, exactly.
• 21:10
  Yeah, he knew. Yeah.
• 21:12
  What did you not like? Then oh man, I hate to say this,
• 21:16
  but I feel like Tom Holland kind of phoned it in a little.
• 21:20
  Dude, yeah, that's not bad too. Like.
• 21:23
  He was. I feel really bad saying that.
• 21:25
  Well. He's not an actor, he's a
• 21:26
  director, which I guess it makes sense, but that's the game you
• 21:29
  play when you cast non actors in acting.
• 21:32
  Yeah, You know, like you take that risk and you get all of
• 21:35
  these vets and everybody's like doing a great job, and then he
• 21:38
  sticks out like a sore thumb. I think Danielle Harris's acting
• 21:42
  is what makes me care about his character.
• 21:44
  Yeah, yeah. She really does a lot of the
• 21:46
  heavy lifting there. Danielle did a great job in
• 21:48
  this. Movie.
• 21:48
  She's amazing. I am honestly shocked at how
• 21:51
  well she does a southern accent. I know.
• 21:54
  Like she knocks it. Out like, I think generally the
• 21:57
  southern accents were more passable than I would have
• 22:01
  expected. Yeah, I'm they were better than
• 22:04
  Parker Posey and White Lotus. Yeah, it doesn't sound like it
• 22:08
  takes a lot for that to be a piece.
• 22:09
  So yeah, I mean, that was my bad too.
• 22:13
  So that that actor right there stood out.
• 22:15
  Which right. That's really the only bad thing
• 22:17
  I really have to say about this movie.
• 22:19
  Yeah, that's that's the thing that honestly like takes me out
• 22:22
  of it. But then you have to kind of be
• 22:24
  like, I mean, it's Uncle Bob, though.
• 22:27
  There's gotta be Uncle Bob because of who the rest of this
• 22:30
  cast is. And I don't hold it against
• 22:31
  anybody for that involvement. No, no, I mean if you have an
• 22:35
  option to work with somebody like.
• 22:37
  That, yeah. Absolutely.
• 22:38
  You fucking take it? Yeah.
• 22:40
  Yeah. Ugly.
• 22:41
  That we had to see more of that video camera that was like.
• 22:44
  Yes, that was mine too. The part is.
• 22:48
  We did not compare notes on this, by the way.
• 22:50
  The part that's the worst is when he's like following that 14
• 22:53
  year old girl and it's like, come on, take your top off.
• 22:56
  It's like fucking Mika, man. Yeah, it's God, it's gross.
• 23:00
  And then we just like, dude, I'm 14.
• 23:03
  That feels like that has to be like Adam Green's, like a family
• 23:06
  member or something. Yeah, he he mentioned that he
• 23:08
  works with friends and family almost exclusively for this type
• 23:11
  of thing, so that wouldn't make a lot of sense.
• 23:12
  I I am glad though that we got Mercedes McNab back for a little
• 23:16
  bit. Yeah, that was cool.
• 23:18
  Yeah. That was another cool thing,
• 23:20
  though. I like the continuity of that,
• 23:22
  though, you know, Like that was a thing from the last movie.
• 23:24
  And he finds it, and it's like this movie is really good with
• 23:27
  its continuity. Yeah, well, and like I like that
• 23:29
  Hebrew uses actors for the same for different roles too.
• 23:32
  Like Perry is the obvious one, but like we've we got the
• 23:35
  lamplighter Sean Ashworth, who is canonically dead on a
• 23:39
  mountain in this movie, but he's also a Gator hunter.
• 23:44
  Yeah, gets his face sliced off. But yeah, so that's that's my
• 23:48
  ugly. It's just man, that guy.
• 23:51
  We don't get to get rid of that guy.
• 23:54
  No, Yeah, OK. And absurd.
• 23:57
  I don't know, I guess I mean the whole thing is pretty
• 24:02
  outlandish, right? Like, but that's what we're here
• 24:04
  for with this movie. So I guess what I'll go for with
• 24:08
  the absurd is like people treating the swamp like it's
• 24:12
  like an aphrodisiac of sorts. Like there's.
• 24:17
  Go out there and fuck. Yeah, there's a lot of like
• 24:19
  horny on main energy, like. Something in the swamp gases
• 24:22
  trains these people on. It's gross it.
• 24:26
  Is gross. It is.
• 24:29
  Yeah. Mine.
• 24:30
  Well, the first one I had was the Vernon impersonating zombie
• 24:35
  on the bow, which was hilarious. Also the piss jug return.
• 24:40
  That was like one of the small details in this movie.
• 24:43
  Like that. Like Jean girl Buchler is out
• 24:47
  there. Yeah.
• 24:47
  He's Cracker Jack. It's.
• 24:48
  The first one, Cracker Jack, Yeah, he's drinking piss.
• 24:50
  From Jack Cracker. It's whatever.
• 24:52
  It's those two are his name, I just don't remember which order.
• 24:56
  Yeah, and I love it that he just, like, gives it to Mary
• 24:59
  Beth when he's, like, comforting.
• 25:00
  He's like, here, here, take that.
• 25:01
  You need to drink. And then the final one is the
• 25:06
  swamp sex dirty talk. Yeah, she's like, tell me you
• 25:10
  love me. Yeah, I was like, do you love
• 25:14
  me? Yep.
• 25:16
  Yep, it's so funny. No man, I fucking love the
• 25:20
  comedy in this movie. OK.
• 25:22
  What do you rate it? Man, I'm gonna get it.
• 25:26
  I'm gonna give it an 8 1/2. OK, nice.
• 25:29
  Yeah, I'm gonna give it a nine. I think this is a really strong
• 25:32
  follow up. I'm really bummed that Victor
• 25:35
  Crowley didn't become a big thing.
• 25:37
  You know, like it is within like the horror space, but it's not
• 25:41
  like it doesn't have any recognition outside of that.
• 25:44
  Yeah. It's one of those that like, if
• 25:45
  you talk to your horror friends about it, they're gonna be like,
• 25:47
  oh, yeah, hell yeah. But like when I go to work and
• 25:49
  people that like are more into just, I watch scary movies
• 25:53
  around Halloween. If I say hatchet, they're gonna
• 25:55
  be like, I've never heard of that.
• 25:57
  Yeah, like same with like if I went to go talk to my nephew, I
• 26:00
  don't know, he might know Hatchet.
• 26:01
  He's actually getting into some like weird deep shit, but like.
• 26:05
  I feel like this is our duty to. Yeah, it is.
• 26:08
  But they know like Art of the Crown and stuff like that.
• 26:10
  That one actually took off. This one didn't as much, which
• 26:13
  is a bit of a bummer. All right.
• 26:16
  So we got a good starting average.
• 26:17
  Here we do. We do 8.75.
• 26:19
  Let's get on into it then all. Right right away, we're right
• 26:23
  back in the swamp. Victor Crowley is choking Mary
• 26:25
  Death, but she stabs him, swims away.
• 26:28
  And I really like this little detail because like, she's
• 26:30
  swimming and she's bobbing in the water and like the cameras
• 26:32
  going up and down in the water. And every time it's like in the
• 26:35
  water, the sound is like muffled.
• 26:37
  I like that too. That's a good sound design right
• 26:39
  there. Yeah, that was just such a nice
• 26:41
  little touch, like good attention to detail.
• 26:43
  Jack Cracker pulls her into his boat and he takes her to his
• 26:45
  cabin. There's lots of Doomsday Prepper
• 26:48
  stuff in there which is just a fun little.
• 26:52
  Yeah, he drinks his own, yes, which he hands over to Mary Beth
• 26:55
  because she needs to get some fluids in her and she drinks it
• 26:59
  and. I thought she just kept like
• 27:01
  starting to lift it up and then he would say something and she.
• 27:03
  Did OK. I thought she actually drank.
• 27:05
  It yeah, no, she was like kept starting to and then he would
• 27:07
  like ask a question or so. So he says.
• 27:12
  He's going to take her to the doctor and she's like, no, I
• 27:14
  need to go to the police. And he was like, no, listen, we
• 27:16
  just need to leave this fellow alone.
• 27:18
  Yeah, and she tells him her name, to which he.
• 27:22
  Kicks her out. Yeah, he, he recognizes like,
• 27:24
  oh, I know of your dad. I don't know your dad, but he
• 27:28
  did some serious shit around here before.
• 27:30
  He's like, I leave that man alone.
• 27:32
  That man leaves me alone. I can't have you in my cabin.
• 27:35
  And he's yelling at her. And he is so mean that at the
• 27:37
  same time, he's also like, what you need to do is get out to
• 27:40
  this cabin, go down the road about 3/4 of a mile.
• 27:42
  There would be a gas station there on the right.
• 27:44
  You go in there, you call a cab. Also, if you need the answers,
• 27:48
  talk to Reverend Zombie. Yeah, like he's he is yelling
• 27:51
  angrily, kicking her out of his cabin, but giving the most
• 27:53
  helpful directions. It's, you know, like he's a nice
• 27:58
  guy, but you don't want to fuck with Victor Crowley.
• 28:00
  You can go. And piss, this is, this is his
• 28:02
  home. He just wanted to be safe in his
• 28:04
  home. Who?
• 28:04
  Lives in the swamp, man. Like seriously.
• 28:06
  Jack Cracker and Victor Crowley. Yeah, and then I guess that's
• 28:10
  the answer. So there you go.
• 28:12
  Yeah. So she leaves and he's like
• 28:14
  looking around. He's looking through the Hall of
• 28:16
  Things that he got off of the dead Taurus, which is just dark.
• 28:20
  And then? Finds a camcorder bag, pops out
• 28:24
  open. Finds the camcorder, watches the
• 28:26
  footage. It gets more and more
• 28:27
  questionable. The Friday bag it goes.
• 28:28
  Yeah, yeah, it's cool. You get the like you said, the
• 28:31
  characters from the first one that the dude was falling around
• 28:34
  and then some creepy footage in there too.
• 28:37
  Yeah, then here's a sound, like a creaking sound, and he's like,
• 28:40
  hey, listen, listen, I did not know it was her.
• 28:43
  I kicked her out as soon as I found out.
• 28:45
  We can still coexist. To which Victor Crowley replies
• 28:49
  by jamming his hand in his belly.
• 28:52
  How do you do? Disembowelling him and choking
• 28:54
  him with his own intestines. And decapitating him because
• 28:57
  he's squeezing so hard it knocks his head off.
• 28:59
  Which are intestines that strong?
• 29:02
  If you're Victor Crowley, you can make them that strong.
• 29:03
  I just feel like intestines are probably weaker than neck bones.
• 29:06
  Intestines. They're fucking Wildman.
• 29:09
  Like, aren't they super long? Like they go for a long time?
• 29:13
  I mean they can go to the moon. That was that is the weirdest
• 29:18
  thing that we were ever told at some point in school.
• 29:20
  Like they can go to the moon. Isn't that weird?
• 29:22
  Yeah. Like, that doesn't make any
• 29:24
  sense. There's no.
• 29:25
  Fucking way. There's no way something that
• 29:27
  can reach the moon that's inside me right now.
• 29:29
  I. Think it's, I think it's on King
• 29:30
  of the Hill. Somebody says that to Hank and
• 29:32
  he goes, My stake would have to move through my body at 2000 mph
• 29:35
  for me to digest it. There's no way.
• 29:40
  Yeah, it's, but does it can? It I wanna know how much actual
• 29:47
  length of intestines are in our bodies.
• 29:50
  Hold on. I'm gonna look this up.
• 29:51
  OK, we need to know this is doing the science right here,
• 29:54
  the research. So the small intestine on
• 29:58
  average, now remember this is going to vary from person to
• 30:01
  person, is about 20 to 23 feet and the large intestine is about
• 30:04
  5 feet. That's not the moon.
• 30:05
  Fuck that, they lied to me. That wouldn't even go from one
• 30:09
  end of the house to the other. No, that's some bullshit right
• 30:11
  there. That sucks.
• 30:15
  Well, anyways. Fun to public schooling people.
• 30:18
  Yeah, exactly. So we get this opening, which
• 30:23
  concludes with Adam Green vomiting on Bourbon Street.
• 30:27
  Right next to it written and directed by Adam Green, which is
• 30:30
  great. But also I'm having a lot of
• 30:33
  stomach issues and that was I had just taken my anti nausea
• 30:38
  meds and I was like, I can't throw this up right now.
• 30:40
  I was really pushing it down. Mary Beth has walked Mary BA
• 30:46
  Mary Beth is walking the streets looking for Reverend Zombie's
• 30:49
  place and or she finds it. He tries to turn her away, but
• 30:53
  she's like, no, I need to come in.
• 30:56
  I need to talk to you about something that happened in the
• 31:00
  swamp. Which he is watching on TV.
• 31:03
  The news, which has Parker from Frozen on TV interviews.
• 31:06
  It's like, yeah, I'll never go to the ski watch every again.
• 31:09
  It was her first time going to I know it's.
• 31:12
  Ruined. It's like when you get food
• 31:13
  poison, like I'm not eating from there again.
• 31:16
  Yeah, I like, and I mean, also, who's going to take her?
• 31:20
  Was it her boyfriend that took her?
• 31:21
  She'll never have her ride. Ever.
• 31:23
  Again, She'll never, never have anybody take her skiing ever
• 31:25
  again. So he is upset when he hears
• 31:30
  about the boat and about Sean cuz he was like, man, they're
• 31:34
  all dead. That's not good.
• 31:35
  He's like, listen, I'm not supposed to be doing tours out
• 31:38
  there, but the money's good and it's just a bunch of ghost
• 31:41
  stories anyway. And he's also like, and also you
• 31:44
  knew the legends and you still went out there anyway.
• 31:46
  So and then she's like, I need to go get my my dad and my
• 31:52
  brother's bodies. And she mentions her dad's name
• 31:54
  is Samson. And he's like, oh, shit,
• 31:58
  Samson's your dad. So he tells her the story of
• 32:01
  Thomas Crowley again, but we get a little bit more details this
• 32:04
  time. Yeah.
• 32:05
  So he cheated on his wife, who was dying from.
• 32:09
  Was it cancer? I don't know is it ever.
• 32:11
  Specific. Time.
• 32:11
  It was a terminal illness. Whatever.
• 32:13
  Yeah. Yeah, she had a caretaker and
• 32:15
  old Kane Hotter just sleeping with the the helper.
• 32:19
  Lena is her name, yeah. And right before she died, she
• 32:23
  cursed him. Lena and their bastard child.
• 32:26
  He was talking in the behind the scenes here.
• 32:28
  He wanted this to be super scary.
• 32:30
  He wanted this to be the Zelda moment for a new generation,
• 32:34
  which I I'm sorry, I don't. I just don't see it here.
• 32:37
  It's not that scary. Also the Zelda moment didn't do
• 32:40
  much for me. It didn't.
• 32:42
  No, it did scare me. I know it scared a lot of
• 32:44
  people. It didn't really scare me.
• 32:45
  You're. You're tough.
• 32:48
  It was new. So yeah, the baby was cursed and
• 32:52
  they ended up doing a birth at home and the whole Victor
• 32:56
  Crowley baby was born with tumors and all kinds of health
• 33:00
  issues and just the cursed baby. And Elena died the second she
• 33:03
  laid eyes on him. So Victor Thomas Crowley kept
• 33:07
  Victor Crowley at his cabin. And in the first movie, it's led
• 33:11
  to believe that he's doing that out of protection for his son.
• 33:13
  But really, it's because he didn't want everybody else to
• 33:15
  know that he's a dirty, cheating bastard.
• 33:19
  But he grew to love the boy. They ended up being good bubbies
• 33:23
  and then a bunch of asshole kids.
• 33:25
  Three asshole kids specifically set the house on fire, and when
• 33:29
  Thomas Crowley was trying to burst into the house to save
• 33:32
  Victor, he put a hatchet through the door and into Victor's face.
• 33:37
  Yep. Which he he Yeah, it killed
• 33:41
  Victoria. And Thomas wasn't feeling so
• 33:44
  great about that. He knows that all of this is
• 33:46
  true. Reverend Zombie knows all of
• 33:47
  this is true because he was good friends with Samson and he was
• 33:50
  supposed to be a part of that prank that night, but he
• 33:54
  chickened out. Yeah, and then he also, this is
• 33:56
  where he reveals that Victor Crowley is a repeater, which
• 33:59
  means that he's forced to relive that night for every single
• 34:02
  night. You can't kill him.
• 34:04
  If he dies, he comes back. He just keeps reliving his
• 34:06
  death, which is just God. What kind of a predator Victor
• 34:11
  Crowley didn't ask to be born? He didn't, no.
• 34:14
  He didn't ask to be murdered in his house.
• 34:16
  He didn't ask to be isolated in a swamp with his dad.
• 34:18
  I get cursing the two fornicators, but don't curse the
• 34:21
  baby. The baby.
• 34:23
  Didn't Yeah, the the baby's not a cheater.
• 34:26
  No, I I do like this as an explanation for him being like
• 34:30
  the slasher villain and having these abilities, you know, it's
• 34:33
  a good way to explain. It it's an interesting, it's an
• 34:36
  interesting lore and it also gives them some stuff to play
• 34:38
  with and it's going to end up in a really neat twist at the end
• 34:41
  of the movie which I had completely forgotten about.
• 34:44
  Yeah, yes, Sam. So she asked Robert.
• 34:48
  Robert, Reverend Zombie. Robert's not even his real name.
• 34:52
  His real name's Clive. I'm thinking of Rob Zombie,
• 34:55
  Robert Zombie. Robert Zombert, noted musician
• 34:59
  and director. Yeah, she asked Zombie to take
• 35:04
  her back to the swamp so she can bury her family and finally kill
• 35:08
  Victor Crowley if she comes across him again.
• 35:10
  He he agrees. He's like, first of all, he's
• 35:13
  like, you don't want revenge. That's you're not going to get
• 35:16
  revenge against Crowley. But I have an idea.
• 35:22
  I'll get a group of people together.
• 35:24
  I got my men. I got people that I know
• 35:25
  specifically that I wanna get. I will agree you have to bring
• 35:29
  somebody for yourself too, because I don't really have
• 35:30
  anybody Who's. You've got an uncle?
• 35:32
  Yeah. She's like Uncle Dad.
• 35:33
  How? Do you?
• 35:34
  How do you know? Yeah, Yep.
• 35:37
  So she's like, OK, fine, I'll go ask him.
• 35:40
  I'll go talk to my uncle. And they're supposed to meet
• 35:42
  back at 2. This is when Justin comes
• 35:44
  downstairs. And Perry Shen, It's Perry Shen.
• 35:48
  I love that we just keep getting yes, new iterations of the same
• 35:51
  actor and just don't you don't have to explain it.
• 35:53
  Just a new guy. I love it.
• 35:55
  You know, he's he's, he's actually competing with Kane
• 35:57
  Hunter with the amount. Of amount of characters he is in
• 36:00
  this universe and I love it. So he he had Sean take the boat,
• 36:07
  cover his shift. And so zombies kind of like
• 36:10
  miffed him, but he doesn't tell him that everybody died on the
• 36:12
  boat. He's just like, we gotta go find
• 36:14
  the boat. Your brother didn't bring it
• 36:15
  back last night. I knew it was supposed to be
• 36:16
  your shift. And so now, like, Justin's like,
• 36:18
  oh shit. I like things like this is where
• 36:20
  Tony Todd's deep dive what came into play cuz he's like is he
• 36:24
  alive Twitch like zombie like kind of does the thing with this
• 36:27
  as a yes. I like that that means that the
• 36:31
  employees buy into his shit too. So he's that much of A con man?
• 36:36
  The. Tours.
• 36:37
  The tours have been going out for months also, he had revealed
• 36:40
  during his conversation with Mary Beth.
• 36:41
  I think that's important to know.
• 36:43
  Like, so last night, it was a combination of, like, her being
• 36:47
  out there and Sean getting too close.
• 36:50
  Yeah. They weren't supposed to stop.
• 36:53
  Yeah, so, so yeah, he, he sends Justin off to a similar team and
• 36:58
  he insists that he get one person in particular.
• 37:00
  We don't know who that is yet. So Mary Beth is at home, and her
• 37:04
  Uncle Bob comes and checks in on her.
• 37:06
  And he's like, listen, I'm oh, you have now, and you must
• 37:11
  listen to me. Which I mean, she's still an
• 37:12
  adult. Like you could just be there,
• 37:14
  like, kindly. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:18
  He also really hates Reverend Zombie.
• 37:20
  He's. Super anti reverend zombie.
• 37:22
  He's like, let's go to the cops and the hospital.
• 37:25
  And she was like, well, I had both of those options given to
• 37:28
  me before. And instead of going to this
• 37:30
  swamp with Reverend Zombie, he goes, I forbid you.
• 37:32
  And she's like, well, you can't really do that.
• 37:34
  And he's like, all right, well, let's still go to the hospital.
• 37:37
  And she's like, can I have an hour to myself?
• 37:38
  And he's like, OK, but I forbid you from going to see Reverend
• 37:42
  Zombie, which she immediately does.
• 37:44
  Yeah. So So we're back at Zombie's
• 37:46
  place. He now has everybody gathered.
• 37:48
  They're offering everybody $500 if they go to the swamp to hunt.
• 37:53
  Yeah, they have to go to the swamp.
• 37:54
  They're going to hunt throughout the night and they're going to
• 37:58
  try and find the missing boat. That's what he says at first,
• 38:00
  But then people start talking about the legend of Victor
• 38:03
  Crowley, and that gets people really nervous about it.
• 38:08
  And they're like, you know, that's a huge risk.
• 38:10
  And they're all starting to leave.
• 38:12
  And then he's like, listen, I will get $5000 for whoever can
• 38:16
  bring me Victor Crowley's head. And also just for the general
• 38:20
  hunt, like just being there. He offers Trent an extra 500.
• 38:23
  Yeah, yeah. So also the uncle showed up
• 38:26
  there and he's in and he's like, fine, I'll go with you.
• 38:28
  But we got to stick together. Yeah, he's like, I'm here to
• 38:30
  keep an eye on you. Also this is the part where they
• 38:32
  exchange like local wars, like what is Victor crowd like some
• 38:35
  kind of Jason Voorhees. Yeah.
• 38:37
  And then? Like Chad's like, yeah, the guy.
• 38:39
  The boogeyman in our area is Leslie Vernon.
• 38:40
  Yeah, so cool. I love that.
• 38:42
  I love that little nod, which we've we've covered all of
• 38:46
  basically all of these movies that have been referenced, which
• 38:48
  is really fun too. Yeah.
• 38:50
  So yeah, we've got a decent little crew left.
• 38:53
  You read all of those names with your cast list at the beginning.
• 38:56
  So Yep, this is just almost exclusively horror vets.
• 38:59
  Which Cletus and Chad and Avery? I think they're all on a
• 39:04
  separate boat. It's Cletus's boat.
• 39:07
  I like that like cuz Cletus is just like such a generic like.
• 39:11
  Redneck. Redneck name.
• 39:13
  And when Chad calls him out, on he goes, yeah, I know my parents
• 39:16
  were true rednecks. He's like Chad.
• 39:18
  That's a pretty douche name. Sorry, Chad, we don't agree with
• 39:21
  that. I'm just I'm just thrilling what
• 39:22
  the movie said and you. Probably caught a lot of shit
• 39:26
  for that, didn't you? It's like, yeah, but not as much
• 39:28
  as my brother. His name was Skip.
• 39:30
  And then on the other boat, Vernon is singing about chicken
• 39:33
  and biscuits and gravy with the chicken and the biscuits.
• 39:38
  This. Shouldn't be funny, but like
• 39:40
  actually like the way he concludes it.
• 39:42
  It's just like it's done, OK? Like this is pretty.
• 39:47
  Funny, it felt real. It felt like somebody who is
• 39:49
  like arm boat and is hungry and is just thinking about the food
• 39:52
  they want. Like that was real.
• 39:54
  It's like you're $500 chicken, biscuits and gravy and chicken.
• 40:02
  It's not a bad way to spend it. Yeah.
• 40:03
  And then he's, like, going around talking to people.
• 40:05
  He tries to hit on Mary Beth, who's like, dude.
• 40:09
  And then he, like you said, he was like trying to, like, mimic
• 40:13
  Reverend Zombie. And like, I swear there's like a
• 40:17
  little twinkle in Tony Todd's eye where he, like, looks like
• 40:20
  he wants to laugh. It would be hard not to break
• 40:23
  here, but yeah, it's voodoo. And it's important to note here
• 40:27
  that, like, there's a lot of talk going on, and the only
• 40:30
  people who know that everybody's dead are Mary Beth, Zombie and
• 40:33
  Bob. Yeah.
• 40:35
  What a weird trio of names. Mary Beth, a zombie and Bob.
• 40:40
  Yep, Bob Zombie. God damn it.
• 40:46
  It's too early. What if that was his brother?
• 40:53
  It's my brother Bob. Bob.
• 40:56
  Now let's Rob Zombie if he ever like, makes a country.
• 40:59
  Album, Oh my God. Which he will.
• 41:02
  They all do. Everybody always ends up in
• 41:04
  country somehow. My mom is furiously texting me
• 41:08
  right now after hearing. That OK, Where are we at?
• 41:14
  OK, so they stumble upon some of the wreckage of the boat in the
• 41:17
  swamp there. Yeah, and it's like bad
• 41:20
  wreckage. It's like nobody survived this
• 41:22
  kind of shit wreckage. And just like, cool, there's
• 41:26
  still hope. Yeah, because.
• 41:27
  Well, because. No, like, we don't know what
• 41:30
  happened. That's why we're out here.
• 41:32
  That girl didn't see everything. We got to find your brother
• 41:34
  Sean. So they, this is where they kind
• 41:39
  of, like, all end up splitting up.
• 41:41
  Yeah. And Meredith was like, that's a
• 41:42
  terrible idea. And everyone's like, Nope, great
• 41:44
  idea. scooby-doo rules. We're going to go do this.
• 41:46
  This is how you get an interesting episode.
• 41:48
  It's true, and it shakes it up a little.
• 41:50
  Bit here. Oh man, Jenkins can't get us all
• 41:52
  at once. So Cletus and Chad are over
• 41:56
  there hunting Gators. I want like just a miniseries,
• 42:01
  like 3 webisodes of Chad and Cletus.
• 42:04
  I like their band. Yeah, it was.
• 42:06
  Good it was. It was pretty funny, yeah.
• 42:09
  And they're over there shooting Gators and then they hear a
• 42:11
  sound out in like the the weeds swamp.
• 42:14
  And Chad is like, this is clearly Vernon just fucking
• 42:18
  around. So he's like over in the Reedy
• 42:20
  area. He's like, come on out, Vernon.
• 42:22
  And guess what? It's not Vernon.
• 42:24
  It's not Vernon, this is Victor Crowley, and he jumps on top of
• 42:27
  Cletus and just fucking bashes his face with a hatchet.
• 42:30
  He doesn't cut it. He takes like.
• 42:31
  Yeah, he's like dull. Dad, Yeah.
• 42:34
  Boom, boom. It's.
• 42:36
  Yeah, he mashes his face. It looks like Thanksgiving
• 42:39
  cranberries after I. Ain't cranberry sauce?
• 42:42
  It is not cranberry sauce. So Zombie is telling Justin that
• 42:47
  Trent and Bob we're friends, we're good friends slash
• 42:51
  brothers with Samson, Bob, Sanson's brother.
• 42:56
  Trent was their good friend. He was also friends with the
• 42:59
  three of them. Was he was he was he was he?
• 43:07
  We'll get to that here in a little bit because it doesn't
• 43:10
  actually make sense if you start to think about it, but.
• 43:13
  Also, I'm sorry I got that confused.
• 43:15
  It was Chad that got bashed. Yeah.
• 43:17
  Maybe this gets his face chopped off with.
• 43:20
  We haven't gotten there yet. Yeah.
• 43:23
  OK. So he says that Trent and Bob
• 43:25
  were the other two kids that were with Sanson the night that
• 43:28
  Victor Crowley died. So his thoughts are that Victor
• 43:31
  Crowley's going to keep coming up from the dead until he can
• 43:33
  get his revenge from the people who killed him.
• 43:35
  Which also, I mean, technically, his dad killed him too.
• 43:39
  It took me because I. Was thinking like OK, but the
• 43:41
  dad's already dead so I I was like, Oh yeah, he killed him in
• 43:44
  the first one. That's yeah, it's like.
• 43:45
  The opening kill, yeah. So this is he's just basically
• 43:51
  trying to give Victor a chance to finish his revenge.
• 43:54
  Cletus goes back to his boat, which is exactly why he said
• 43:57
  he's like, I bring my own boat everywhere I go in case I need
• 43:59
  to leave. Smart move.
• 44:01
  In case I'm hooking up, in case you know, whatever, but he can't
• 44:04
  get the boat to start because it's like boats, printers,
• 44:09
  everything like that. They know when you're panicking
• 44:11
  and you need it to work and it will not work.
• 44:13
  It works just in time for Victor Crowley to yank him out of it
• 44:17
  into the water and throw his face into the motor.
• 44:20
  It's. Nice to.
• 44:21
  Eat. I like it.
• 44:24
  Then we cut 2 late in the Navy. They are like former lovers.
• 44:30
  Yeah, waiting there to get money for his wedding.
• 44:33
  He's getting married and Avery is really doing her best to
• 44:37
  seduce Sweden, which really doesn't take that much for a.
• 44:40
  Commitment. God damn it, Crispin.
• 44:42
  Crispin's always a fucking. Christmas always an asshole.
• 44:45
  He. Is he's always Crispin for?
• 44:47
  Me, yeah. It's it's one of those that like
• 44:50
  the first thing you see a person in.
• 44:52
  I've never seen him play a good guy.
• 44:53
  He's always been a fucking asshole.
• 44:56
  He plays them well, yeah. Incredible.
• 44:58
  Yeah, they're kissing and then they start doing the sex and as
• 45:04
  they're doing it he gets decapitated and I guess his body
• 45:08
  spasms out. Goes in.
• 45:10
  Yeah, it's a. Yeah, thrust mode.
• 45:12
  And she thinks that like he's having a great time until she
• 45:16
  turns around and sees that he's actually dead.
• 45:18
  And Victory? Crowley's there, but she doesn't
• 45:20
  have a lot of time to be scared because she gets chopped up
• 45:22
  almost immediately as well. So while all that's been
• 45:26
  happening, Mary Beth finds a shed where her dad and her
• 45:30
  brother were before, but now the bodies are missing.
• 45:33
  So now she's like, OK, I got to check the house because he's
• 45:36
  probably moved them into his house.
• 45:38
  Yes. And so they go running for the
• 45:40
  house. They're trying to, like, stop
• 45:42
  him, stop her from going into the house, but you know, that's
• 45:46
  just where she can't stop. Mary Beth can't stop.
• 45:48
  Mary Beth. She was the winner of our
• 45:50
  Patreon tournament. The most badass final girl.
• 45:53
  She was. She beat every other final girl.
• 45:55
  You can't stop, Mary Beth. Yeah, she's, she's a fucking
• 45:59
  badass. So we cut to Vernon and John,
• 46:03
  and John's whole thing is that he doesn't talk.
• 46:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I think it's funny because
• 46:08
  he is also another one of those that's typically like a stunt
• 46:10
  person. So yeah, I almost wonder if that
• 46:12
  was like they decided to make his running joke.
• 46:15
  Which I like. It's the pairing of him and
• 46:17
  Vernon because Vernon can't shut up.
• 46:19
  He does have one moment though where you think he's gonna talk
• 46:22
  but cuz they're hunting he just mouse the words What the fuck?
• 46:25
  What the fuck? And then we hear chainsaw and we
• 46:29
  see the world's longest chainsaw.
• 46:31
  I know, like I'm surprised that he didn't use the chainsaw for
• 46:35
  RA. Right.
• 46:37
  Because he was a weather face, I.
• 46:38
  Wonder if they were like trying to subvert our expectations?
• 46:41
  Probably. It is a massive fucking
• 46:43
  chainsaw. It is so big.
• 46:46
  Yeah, and he just walks over there and it's so big that he
• 46:48
  chainsaws right through both of. Them.
• 46:50
  Is this like the chainsaw in like?
• 46:53
  You're talking about 3. That's the one where he gets the
• 46:56
  magic. The big chainsaw fuck.
• 46:58
  I need to go through my notes. We need to just watch Chainsaw
• 47:01
  again. That's what we need to.
• 47:02
  Do that's what it sounds like. Yeah, but anyway, he he
• 47:04
  chainsaws through both of them. And it's really bad.
• 47:06
  We've covered all of these. I know recently.
• 47:11
  Either way, we get like a double chainsaw kill and it's pretty
• 47:13
  cool because it's a huge chainsaw.
• 47:16
  So the uncle makes Mary Beth hide and cuz I don't know, they
• 47:21
  hear Victor Crowley outside. And just, yeah, Justin hides
• 47:25
  with her. He has peed his pants.
• 47:27
  Like a lot. Like it's a disrespectful amount
• 47:29
  of pee coming out of his pants. So much so that he tells Mary
• 47:32
  Beth all about zombies plans, which makes Mary Beth very mad.
• 47:36
  So she starts to run out cuz she's gonna go save Uncle Bob,
• 47:39
  which means Justin is gonna hide in the closet even more.
• 47:44
  And he gets in the closet. And I felt really bad for you in
• 47:46
  the scene because he's being attacked by spiders.
• 47:49
  Yeah, he's like, he thought to check for spiders there, which I
• 47:53
  guess, Yeah, fair. And he had one of the biggest
• 47:55
  ones on. Him, yes.
• 47:56
  And I legitimately didn't. I expected like the spiders were
• 47:59
  gonna make him make noise and he'd jump out and Victor Crowley
• 48:01
  would be there. But Victor Crowley, scooby-doo
• 48:03
  logic again, is in the closet. It appears in that, yes.
• 48:06
  Just from the shadows right there.
• 48:08
  So Justin tries to run it, makes it to the door almost, but he
• 48:13
  gets a hatchet in the back and then.
• 48:15
  Bob and Trent are hearing all of this and they're trying to
• 48:19
  figure out how they can help. But the.
• 48:20
  Door is like locked or jammed because of Justin being against
• 48:24
  the door and Victor Crowley apparently had a belt Sander.
• 48:28
  Yes, yeah. And he starts that up and he
• 48:32
  just puts it right to his head and it's a pretty gnarly kill.
• 48:36
  Goes right through his skull. You see his brain.
• 48:39
  It's nasty. Then he comes out Victor, not
• 48:43
  Justin. Justin's the really dead Victor
• 48:45
  comes out in him and RA fight. All right, Trent.
• 48:49
  Yeah, and this was cool because Kane was a stunt director on
• 48:53
  this movie too, because, you know, it's Kane's main thing
• 48:55
  here. And he actually let, like, RA do
• 48:58
  the stunt fight himself too, which RA was really appreciative
• 49:01
  of. He didn't like, didn't want to
• 49:03
  be doubled out. Yeah.
• 49:04
  And. They're buddies too, so.
• 49:07
  Yeah, it was a cool moment. It's a really good fight.
• 49:09
  I like seeing stuff like this where the slasher villain has
• 49:14
  like a match, like a physical match, and they actually hold
• 49:17
  their own for a little bit and it all ends with him.
• 49:21
  And I like that because we do know like, it makes sense for us
• 49:24
  as like horror fans because again, this is a horror fans
• 49:26
  horror movie. So we're like, cool, we've got
• 49:29
  Leatherface versus Jason Voorhees right now.
• 49:32
  This is like, I mean, it's not, but it.
• 49:34
  Is which is awesome. And it ends with him getting his
• 49:38
  face put up against the table there, his jaw, and he gets curb
• 49:42
  stomped. Yeah.
• 49:43
  And. Adam Green did this because he
• 49:45
  was inspired by Malcolm X and he said he was pissed that you
• 49:50
  didn't see it so he wanted to actually show it.
• 49:54
  Malcolm X, not Malcolm XI always say that.
• 49:57
  American History XI always say Malcolm X.
• 50:00
  American history, An actual like person who did, you know, like
• 50:04
  work fighting against racism and whatnot.
• 50:06
  I I, I always get him mixed up. Yeah, that's my bet.
• 50:11
  Either way, that was what inspired it.
• 50:13
  He like does it in his head. Listen, we didn't need to see
• 50:16
  the American history X. We hear the teeth touch in the
• 50:19
  concrete. That's all my my brain gets
• 50:22
  shivers every time that's. What I thought too, like that
• 50:24
  movie isn't like a horror movie. You're not there for the war.
• 50:27
  Like, it's pretty upsetting. It's, it's enough in my head,
• 50:30
  yeah. But in here, like he actually
• 50:32
  does it to him and half of his head goes scooting across the
• 50:35
  table. So while all that's been
• 50:39
  happening, Zombie has like taken Mary Beth and is refusing to let
• 50:43
  her help. And he's like, I am helping you,
• 50:45
  I'm helping you. She goes no, I need Bobby goes
• 50:46
  no, no, I'm saving you. Yeah, and he just carries her
• 50:49
  out of the house and Uncle Bob is locked in there with.
• 50:52
  Well, yeah, He carries her out of the house, and he also makes
• 50:54
  sure that it's going to be impossible to get back in.
• 50:56
  Yeah. And so then we have Victor
• 50:58
  Crowley and Bob fight, and this is not nearly as evenly matched.
• 51:01
  It's like. It's like OK.
• 51:02
  We don't even see it. We just hear it.
• 51:04
  And we can hear how badly Tom Holland's ass is getting kicked.
• 51:07
  Tom. You're barely doing the acting
• 51:10
  part here. We can't have you do any of like
• 51:12
  the fighting acting, It's just not going to.
• 51:14
  Work. Oh no.
• 51:14
  Yeah, so we just see blood spurt.
• 51:16
  Yeah. And then Reverend Zombie's like,
• 51:18
  hi, like I did it like he needed to get his revenge.
• 51:22
  That was his uncle. That was that Was your uncle,
• 51:24
  the last person he needed to kill to get his revenge?
• 51:27
  And then she's like, I'm going to tell everybody they're never
• 51:29
  going to come to your tour business again, and you're going
• 51:32
  to be arrested. He goes, that's what you think,
• 51:34
  Mary Beth. And then he pulls out a gun, and
• 51:36
  she goes, there's something you don't know, though.
• 51:39
  And he's like, what? She goes, that's not my
• 51:41
  biological uncle. That was just my daddy's best
• 51:43
  friend. My uncle died of leukemia when I
• 51:45
  was 12. That is a good twist.
• 51:48
  Man, which again, you would think, even if you like lost
• 51:53
  track over the years, you would think that you would remember
• 51:56
  one of your very good friend's brother's name.
• 51:58
  Unless they were both named Bob. Do they look similar?
• 52:02
  I don't know. He is probably just like didn't
• 52:04
  care about him. But yeah, like when you think
• 52:07
  about it, kind of does fall apart a little bit.
• 52:08
  Yeah. I love that reveal so much
• 52:10
  because, I mean, that is the thing people do.
• 52:11
  Like you call best friends, like your dad's best friend, uncle or
• 52:15
  something like. That yeah, no, I've definitely
• 52:16
  got my mom's two best friends growing up.
• 52:19
  They ran uncle to me. Exactly.
• 52:20
  Yeah, yeah. It's just such a good twist.
• 52:22
  So Victor Crowley comes out and he's pissed.
• 52:25
  Yeah, and he's like, guess what? Fuck you, extra zombie.
• 52:30
  He cuts him in half and he's his little.
• 52:34
  The little extra bit of his spine is hanging out.
• 52:37
  And Victor, this is the leather facing him.
• 52:40
  This right here. I thought he was going to yank
• 52:42
  his spine out but then he just keeps pulling and he fucking
• 52:45
  degloves him. He degloves.
• 52:48
  Him. Entirely.
• 52:50
  I've never seen shit like that before.
• 52:53
  Against all odd zombies still somehow partially alive for
• 52:56
  this, and he's a little bit shocked and then very honest
• 52:59
  anticlimactically, he just tosses him into the reeds.
• 53:02
  Yeah, and. And then?
• 53:06
  Mary Beth, like Victor Crowley's distracted, but Mary Beth takes
• 53:09
  this opportunity to ambush Victor Crowley with the hatchet.
• 53:13
  So it's just bashing his face, pulverizes it.
• 53:15
  It's like a fucking pulp. And then she leaves and we see
• 53:19
  him, his hand twitching, going for the hatchet, and she comes
• 53:23
  back with a shotgun and says I can't remember what.
• 53:28
  Yeah. It ends on something with fuck
• 53:29
  in it. Yeah, Yeah.
• 53:32
  And then just. Boom.
• 53:34
  And it's like a hard cut to Crest, like shotgun blast, boom.
• 53:37
  And it's. And yeah, like that's where Part
• 53:40
  3 is going to be. Taken Part 3 will pick up with a
• 53:41
  very bloody Mary Beth going into the cop station.
• 53:44
  She's not going to be talked out of it this time.
• 53:46
  Exactly. Yep and bam, what a way in the
• 53:49
  movie I. Think I'm going to bump it up to
• 53:50
  an 8.75. I just think this is a really
• 53:53
  solid and fun movie. It is it.
• 53:55
  It goes at a good pace. It builds on the lore in a way
• 53:59
  that will be meaningful in the next movie.
• 54:02
  Yeah, and it's like it's a well put together slasher movie.
• 54:05
  I really do appreciate it. I like that he set out to
• 54:09
  recreate the slasher icons for the the new generation.
• 54:14
  I just wish he took off as much. As he.
• 54:17
  Probably should have, but yeah, like this movie is so fun to
• 54:20
  keep in mind. Out of nine, what did Talia
• 54:23
  think? Of this Talia, she was actually
• 54:25
  pretty chill when we were watching this.
• 54:27
  I don't have any major Talia notes.
• 54:29
  I think she played a lot, man. She was forcing me to play and
• 54:33
  that I think she was just excited for.
• 54:35
  It. Yeah, I think she really enjoys
• 54:37
  this one. I think she appreciates the
• 54:38
  swampiness of it because as we talked about, water is very
• 54:40
  scary to her. So it's a very effective
• 54:42
  setting. I think she she refers to some
• 54:45
  of our friends as aunt and uncle, so she understands that
• 54:47
  family relationship. That's true, yeah.
• 54:50
  And I think she's just had a real good time.
• 54:52
  So I think she's going to give this a nine because it is just
• 54:56
  fine. Yeah, yeah, and Zoe's ultimate
• 54:59
  Warrior. We weren't doing The Ultimate
• 55:02
  Warrior when we did this, so we can make it Victor.
• 55:04
  No, no, it's Vernon singing about the chicken.
• 55:08
  Biscuits and gravy. That's like Zoe's mine all day.
• 55:12
  Long it actually is. Like she will go out to fight
• 55:14
  for $500. Listen, I eat this popcorn like
• 55:19
  as an afternoon snack at work, so I'll scoop out just a little
• 55:22
  bit into a bag for myself in the mornings.
• 55:24
  And she normally, like, it is live theater entertainment for
• 55:28
  her. And she missed it the other
• 55:29
  morning, and she came running into the kitchen after it.
• 55:31
  I already put it up, and she was just going.
• 55:35
  Yeah. Like why didn't you tell?
• 55:36
  Me, she was so upset. Yeah, she she is so fascinated
• 55:40
  watching food be assembled. Who did you relate?
• 55:46
  To that's a great question. I think I related to Chad.
• 55:52
  OK. Yeah, I like to.
• 55:55
  It's a little attitude. He was kind of just like excited
• 55:56
  to be there. He wanted to like be part of
• 55:59
  like a team, almost the whole being picked on type thing.
• 56:05
  I don't know, like I I liked his character.
• 56:07
  I I felt like he was like a very relatable type person.
• 56:11
  I feel like I'm probably relate to Vernon because I'd I'd be
• 56:14
  sitting there singing songs about food on the.
• 56:17
  This is one of the most relatable parts of the movie for
• 56:19
  me. It's a funny part.
• 56:21
  Yeah, I love that part. It had no right to be as funny
• 56:24
  as it was. That's that's how I feel about
• 56:26
  this whole movie though. I know, yeah.
• 56:28
  It's so good. Yeah.
• 56:30
  All right. Do we want to do a dream sequel?
• 56:36
  I know usually we do with these, but I also feel like what exists
• 56:39
  is already so solid. Yeah, but that's the case for
• 56:41
  most of these two that we do. OK, now we'll see a dream
• 56:43
  sequel. So cuts back with Mary Beth.
• 56:48
  Obviously she's just shot him. I'd like to imagine that she
• 56:54
  goes back, she's looking through zombie stuff, like she's going
• 56:57
  to see if she can find another way.
• 56:59
  She just finds how much more of a fake he is.
• 57:01
  And then we have Carrie Shen. I don't know who his character
• 57:03
  is in this one, but obviously he's going to be there.
• 57:06
  Can we take this opportunity to make this like a crossover with
• 57:09
  one of those other properties like, well, maybe bring Wesley
• 57:12
  Vernon in? I would love that.
• 57:13
  Like she needs some help from somebody like to understand.
• 57:17
  Yeah. So she like goes and like.
• 57:18
  He's the subject matter expert. Yeah, 'cause that guy survived,
• 57:21
  he backed out, I think. So he can be like, OK, like I'm
• 57:24
  going to like, she's like, all right, fine.
• 57:26
  I'll go to, like the source and see, like, how to approach it
• 57:30
  that way I know how they think. That way I can counter them
• 57:32
  better. And then the documentary Lady
• 57:35
  from Leslie Vernon is doing a documentary on the hunt for
• 57:40
  Victor Crowley. And what if Robert Englund,
• 57:43
  like, was her dad and like, she just didn't know about that part
• 57:47
  of him being like the Loomis like character?
• 57:49
  Oh. My God.
• 57:50
  Yeah, all right, that would be a stretch, but he's in both
• 57:54
  movies. Well, no, that's just the thing
• 57:55
  in the. No, it just needs to be like,
• 57:57
  she's gonna be like, wow, you remind me a lot of my dad.
• 57:59
  Yeah, people just like, are multiple people in this
• 58:02
  universe? Yeah, very cool.
• 58:05
  I think that that would be a cool way to do.
• 58:07
  That right there. Yeah, absolutely.
• 58:09
  I would love to see that yeah OK, and that's something that
• 58:12
  they could do like now, cuz we're, you know, so far removed
• 58:16
  from yeah this chain like that. That would be a good way to
• 58:20
  bring it back to. It I think Kane Hunter could
• 58:21
  play Victor Crowley soon. See Why not?
• 58:25
  He's well, I guess they made Victor Crowley pretty recently.
• 58:28
  Yeah, he did just fine in that role.
• 58:29
  Yeah. OK.
• 58:31
  All right. New tag line put the owl in
• 58:33
  Crowley. I'd love to go with that because
• 58:37
  my brain is just doing ICP stuff because the hatchet.
• 58:41
  What? Oh, OK.
• 58:42
  The hatchet, yeah. Which you know what?
• 58:45
  It's still tracks because Kane hotter he is a.
• 58:49
  Is he a fucking ICP guy? Yeah.
• 58:52
  Is he really? Yeah, he's Juggalo.
• 58:54
  That explains fago, all the fago he has on his table.
• 59:01
  He doesn't have fago on his table all the time.
• 59:03
  I always I don't think. All right, Joe, that one's just
• 59:06
  for you. Yeah, OK.
• 59:10
  Well, yeah, I guess if that's as far as we're gonna get with the
• 59:15
  tagline, we'll. Do that then putting the owl in
• 59:18
  Crowley. All right.
• 59:20
  I guess we are doing reviews now.
• 59:23
  Yeah, I guess we are. OK, so I knew that you liked
• 59:27
  this one more, so I went with the negative review.
• 59:29
  OK, it's a four out ten step down Marybeth Dunstan.
• 59:35
  Daniel Harris is the final girl of the first movie.
• 59:37
  After surviving the unkillable Victor Crowley.
• 59:40
  She is told to find Reverend Zombie and discover her father's
• 59:43
  history. It starts fine as it can't be
• 59:45
  horror comedy concept. This is fully in B horror
• 59:48
  territories. The first movie is OK but it
• 59:50
  wasn't screaming for a sequel. As long as they bring Daniel
• 59:53
  Harris back, I don't mind another low budget horror
• 59:55
  franchise. It's definitely nothing better
• 59:57
  than that. After a functional start, Mary
• 59:59
  Beth goes into the city and the movie grinds to a halt.
• 1:00:02
  It's nothing interesting nor funny.
• 1:00:04
  For sure. It's not scary.
• 1:00:06
  By the time they get back into the swamps, the movie has lost
• 1:00:09
  me. This is a step down from the
• 1:00:10
  first movie in which is already just a borderline case.
• 1:00:15
  That's kind of surprising to me. I don't feel like it comes to a
• 1:00:17
  halt whenever she gets there. I feel like you know.
• 1:00:20
  Like, again, it's for horror fans once you get to that part
• 1:00:23
  in the city, like you're kind of geeking out at all the people
• 1:00:26
  you're seeing there. And I guess maybe it would be
• 1:00:29
  boring if you're not really. But then again, we're kind of
• 1:00:32
  like building towards something here.
• 1:00:33
  It's not like. Yeah, and we have to find a
• 1:00:35
  reason to get people back into the swamp.
• 1:00:37
  I mean, think about Halloween. We're always finding reasons for
• 1:00:41
  Michael de Pedro. In fact, to Hatton Field.
• 1:00:43
  Think about Friday the 13th. We're always finding reasons to
• 1:00:45
  get people near a Crystal Lake. So Jason King, keep cha cha cha.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah. I don't think that they like had
• 1:00:51
  an outline. It's really a sluggish way of
• 1:00:53
  getting people back. This movie is so short and most
• 1:00:57
  of it is in the swamp and that's where all of the fun things
• 1:01:00
  happen like. Yeah, and we get lots of like,
• 1:01:02
  gratuitous kills, which is what this franchise is.
• 1:01:06
  Yeah, and I also think like those moments without the
• 1:01:08
  killing is where you let the comedy part shine.
• 1:01:11
  Yeah, it actually did a good job.
• 1:01:13
  Yeah, and he had, he had a great cast for that.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah, for sure. Everybody did a good job.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah, OK. That's our thoughts on them.
• 1:01:21
  So let's see what other people think about it.
• 1:01:24
  Can we? Sorry, I'm just thinking again,
• 1:01:27
  can we have like one of those double like tagline situations?
• 1:01:31
  Sure what you got so. We've got put The Owl and
• 1:01:33
  Crowley right, but I think we also need to put the horror fans
• 1:01:36
  horror movie. You know how like some posters
• 1:01:39
  will have like a tagline and then like a review ish tagline?
• 1:01:41
  OK. Yeah, we can do that, Yeah.
• 1:01:44
  OK, so I have one review. It is from Cube Saves, who says
• 1:01:47
  I love these movies. Each one has a Newberry Comics
• 1:01:50
  logo in it, which it also rules to.
• 1:01:53
  Is that the thing with the guy's shirt where it was the shirt in
• 1:01:57
  the first movie and it was the hat and this?
• 1:01:59
  Let's see, because I don't know, I don't either.
• 1:02:02
  Newberry Comics logo. Yep.
• 1:02:09
  Cool. All right, nice.
• 1:02:10
  Now we know. Yeah, good to know.
• 1:02:12
  I I was wondering what that was whenever I saw it.
• 1:02:14
  It kind of reminds me of like the wife is good.
• 1:02:17
  Yeah, and of course Crispin is the one that gets the.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah, Adam Green is wearing it in the behind the scenes pretty
• 1:02:23
  much the entire time too. All right, we forgot one thing,
• 1:02:27
  though. Also wait, do you have comments
• 1:02:30
  on that I. Think we got through the
• 1:02:33
  comments OK. Sorry, my brain is going
• 1:02:35
  1,000,000 miles right now. No, you're good.
• 1:02:37
  We forgot to do What would Dom do?
• 1:02:40
  WWDD. So.
• 1:02:44
  Well, first of all, Tom's not or Tom Dom's not going in there
• 1:02:47
  without a shotgun. No, which, you know, if he
• 1:02:50
  didn't have it already, he would take it from Reverend Tom.
• 1:02:54
  Let's see. And he's gonna get, he's gonna
• 1:02:56
  make this like fan boat, like the type you see in the swamp
• 1:02:59
  and make it go super fast. That was that image just went
• 1:03:02
  into my head and you sat in and just, yeah, you gotta see him in
• 1:03:06
  one of those there. And he would absolutely like,
• 1:03:09
  not only would he kick Victor Kylie's ass, but he would kick
• 1:03:12
  Reverend Zombie's ass. Because you don't turn your back
• 1:03:14
  on family and you don't use them as like revenge tools like.
• 1:03:19
  He would hate. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:20
  He's like, that's her family. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:22
  And he would like, he would immediately cling to Mary Beth
• 1:03:25
  because he'd be like, I respect what you're wanting to do.
• 1:03:27
  I see what you want to do. I, too, have a family.
• 1:03:30
  I'm neglecting them right now. So we're going to go do this
• 1:03:32
  thing. Yeah, I mean, I think that he
• 1:03:34
  would like he would kill Victor Crowley temporarily, long enough
• 1:03:37
  for him to escape, and then he wouldn't be coming back.
• 1:03:39
  Would he? Because if Fast and Furious
• 1:03:43
  loves anything, it's the enemies to liver stroke, enemies to
• 1:03:47
  family. So would he offer to be Victor
• 1:03:50
  Crowley's new family? Yeah, like it looks like this
• 1:03:53
  man just needs some family. Yeah, he just needs to come to
• 1:03:56
  the cookout. He needs a Corona.
• 1:03:58
  Dude, I want to see Victor Crowley in the backyard of the
• 1:04:01
  Toretto House, just drinking a Corona, eating some BBQ.
• 1:04:04
  He reaches for the food 1st. And you got to say grace now.
• 1:04:08
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see him with Statham
• 1:04:12
  because I want to see like, well, Stathan reacts to him.
• 1:04:16
  Yeah, he's got to shave his head because he's got to be bald now
• 1:04:18
  too, Yeah. OK, thank God you remembered
• 1:04:22
  that. Also, I feel like Vernon would
• 1:04:25
  go family. Yeah, he.
• 1:04:28
  Would like do the same thing. And they would, like, reference
• 1:04:31
  the Fast and the Furious movies, but not in a way that
• 1:04:34
  acknowledges that Don Toretto is actually the Don Toretto.
• 1:04:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:38
  They're like, you think a lot like that guy from the movies
• 1:04:40
  where they drive cars fast. Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  He's like you're driving a boat fast.
• 1:04:45
  Forget about it Co. OK, OK, that concludes it for
• 1:04:50
  this week's episode. Next week we are going back to
• 1:04:55
  our franchise. We are doing Texas Chainsaw is
• 1:04:59
  what this. One's called Texas Chainsaw.
• 1:05:00
  It's also the three D1. Yes, I'm.
• 1:05:04
  You can watch it on Peacock and I believe Plex.
• 1:05:09
  Let me see right now, yeah, Plex, Peacock, YouTube
• 1:05:12
  Primetime, Prime Premium, YouTube TV Premium.
• 1:05:15
  You can also rent it from Google TV, Apple TV or if you didn't go
• 1:05:17
  at home. Yeah, you know, people feel
• 1:05:20
  strongly about that one, and we do too.
• 1:05:22
  And if you want to know how we feel about it, you can just go
• 1:05:24
  check that out next. Week.
• 1:05:25
  Feel like I've made my opinions on it pretty clear before now,
• 1:05:28
  but I'll save it all for next. Week If you need an explanation
• 1:05:31
  on our feelings on a wait until next week and.
• 1:05:34
  My explanations? It's a fun fucking movie.
• 1:05:37
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• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:44
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• 1:06:14
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• 1:06:17
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• 1:06:19
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• 1:06:49
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• 1:06:52
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• 1:06:54
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• 1:06:57
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• 1:07:01
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• 1:07:03
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• 1:07:17
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