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Rooster Hall Racing: Johan Schwartz and Todd Brown’s Racing Journey · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Walking through the paddock at any motorsports event affords you the ability
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to see a lot of really cool things.
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Everything is designed to capture your attention and draw your eyes and
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ears to it from the fast looking cars with their colorful liveries and ear
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pleasing exhaust notes to the giant flags denoting the team garages.
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But this weekend one logo really stands out among the crowd, and that's
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the giant red rooster emblazoned on the BMW M4 of rooster hall racing.
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That's right, Brad.
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Rooster Hall Racing traces its roots to 2002 with the purchase
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of a highly modified E30 M3.
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And today the team campaigns cars in both BMW CCA Club Racing and SRO America.
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Team owner Todd Brown and lead driver Johan Schwartz join us live to talk
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about supporting cars in both series, the history of Rooster Hall Racing
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and some great paddock stories.
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So let's jump back into our session at VIR.
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So welcome to BrakeFix, Johan and Todd.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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So like all good BrakeFix stories, we want to start out with the origin.
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So how did you guys get started in motorsports?
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Well, uh, I, I, I guess I can go first.
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My, uh, my love for motorsports has been, I remember when I was like five or six
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years old and I could name all the cars and I kind of felt bad for when somebody
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was high revving their engine because, you know, to me they had soul, right?
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So why would you mistreat somebody, uh, a car like that?
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And then I, I Started really getting into the motorsports end of it and
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being from Denmark, it was rallying, rally sprints, closed course, yeah.
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The Joakim Kunen's and the Steve Blomqvist and all those guys,
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they were just finishing off their careers, but that's kind of when
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I started catching up, watching.
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Then I started racing on a local dirt road course, which was known
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as rally sprint, but with chump or champ like cars, you know, very low.
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But for everybody to go out there and race, there was a claimer rule.
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And then, uh, it just went from there into Formula Ford.
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And then I started actually racing go karts for seat time.
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So I went into the cars first before I went to the go karts
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because my parents didn't really know anything about motorsports.
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So they had no idea where to support me and how to get me involved in it.
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So it was all driven by myself.
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And then I just drove whatever I could came to the States in the
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early nineties, back in Denmark.
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I'd seen a little lap timing system when I was racing in Denmark.
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Formula Fords that would give an instant on board lap time, come to
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find out it was a Danish product, brought it here to the States and uh,
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had a, uh, a contact that had good contact with Hendrick Motorsports.
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I installed it in Ricky Rutz and Kenny Schrader's car.
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So all of a sudden I opened my eyes up to NASCAR and like,
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this is what I want to do.
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I had come to find out I had the wrong accent for that one, especially back then.
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But I had a blast, got to know a lot of people, slowly kind of got myself into
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the road racing part here in the States.
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Raced a lot of SCCA and NASA.
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Then it grew from there, got together with some people doing
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some longer endurance races, and then started racing SRO in 2013.
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Basically an SRO, there's been a few years I was in transition from one class
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to another, and then been there in a sense and raced a little bit of IMSA
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too, and races a lot of, uh, endurance races and also race for a team out
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of Florida for the, uh, SCCA runoffs.
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We're trying to qualify for that.
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So I try to still race as I believe till this point here this year,
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there's four weekends I've been off.
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All the other weekends I've been on a racetrack.
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So I enjoyed a lot with the support of my family, right?
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Did you mention a championship or two?
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Oh yeah, and then, you know, with Rooster Hole, I was going to let
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you do that, talking about the history of Rooster Hole, right?
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Then we got together in 2018, started campaigning at 240, one of the factory
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built race cars in the TC class, placed third in the championship
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there, won, yeah, won three or four races, and then in 2019, again
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with West Virginia on the carb.
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One of the most beautiful paint schemes I've seen out there.
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I loved it.
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And, uh, we won, I think, uh, nine out of fourteen races, something
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like that, and championship.
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And we got second in the, um, standings amongst, at the rating
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of all BMW drivers in the world.
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And Rooster Haul is a team, I believe, got third, so we won the championship in 19,
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and I'd won a previous, uh, championship in 2015 in Touring Car as well.
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That's kind of my racing background.
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It's been my blood and my mom is here from Denmark watching this weekend and she
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still doesn't understand what's going on and how this thing happens and you know,
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what are all those buttons for on the steering wheels and you know, all that.
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So it's fun to explain that to her.
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She's just watching it and all, but it's a lot of fun to have her.
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My sister is here from Spain as well.
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So we have a whole family get together.
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My two kids are here watching as well.
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That's great.
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And I, I, hearing your origin story, what we're going to talk about later
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makes a lot of sense, you know, when we talk about your, your longest
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drift, if you've got rally, uh, rally sprint and rally X experience
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in your, it all comes Who hasn't?
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I did.
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I was born and raised on a farm, so that's also how I kept practice, bought
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old beat up cars on the harvested fields in the summer, set up a rally course,
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obviously, and my friend and I were timing each other, had a little in competition,
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and then when the winter came in, the little two acre pond that we had, we
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did the same thing, put studded tires in the front, ball tires in the back,
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and we had a blast oversteering the whole time with a front wheel drive car.
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So that's a great segue to Todd to talk about his motor sports background and
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the creation of Rooster Hall Racing, its history, you know, what's in the
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name, the significance of Rooster.
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So mine goes back to age five or six as well.
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I was born in 62 and I woke up to cars in 1968.
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I can tell you, when I moved from Cincinnati, Ohio, where I grew up, to
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Virginia, where I spent the rest of my life, I can tell you every car on my
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street, even today, and what year it was.
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I had every Hot Wheels car made from 1968 to 1970.
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My parents knew that I was just this car nut.
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Car, car, car, car, car.
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So in 1971, my mother, she takes me to see this movie called
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Le Mans, with Steve McQueen.
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Um, Oh, this would be great for Todd.
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I think it was rated R, maybe.
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She takes me to the movie, we walk out of that, and all I want to do is race cars.
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You know, at this point I'm eight or nine years old.
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The last thing my mother ever wanted her son to do.
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was race cars because in the movie they all crash and burn up.
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My mother did not see me race until I was 53 years old.
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Oh man.
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And the only reason she came out is because my son was in the same race.
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Moved forward many years.
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It was, I was 32 years old.
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I started going to the track at Summit Point.
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They called Friday at the track and I went there for five years and
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I became an instructor for eight and during that whole time I was
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racing go karts like y'all on here.
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And then I made the decision to make the plunge into BMW club racing.
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And I've been doing that now for 18 years, I guess, formally won a couple
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of national championships there.
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Although my son is still faster than I am.
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That's how you want it to be, right?
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Exactly.
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But that's not the way it all is.
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And in the meantime, talked about this a little bit off a
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microphone, but my son Sean is one.
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Twice the world championship in soapbox derby racing, which is a lot more car
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control than you would ever think Because you follow the crown of the road and you
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follow the cones and inch off the cones the entire way down the track And the
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world championships are a little different and there's crosswinds and all kind of
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things But that was really neat ESPN had a documentary on us through that.
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I guess this was about 789 years ago I was looking for a place where I could
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maybe expand my car collection because we had kind of grown out of our garage.
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I have five cars in a three car garage.
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I was at a restaurant, saw this free real estate publication,
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and this shop was for sale.
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Forty minutes from my house, but 15 minutes from my wife's parents house.
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Hmm, and it was just weird enough that no one would buy it except for me maybe.
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It was a 5, 000 square foot garage with a 1, 200 square foot nice apartment on it.
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That's every guy's dream, right?
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Yeah.
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So this guy built this, he was a single guy, his girlfriend lived next door in
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the property next door, who happened to be a realtor, and he built this
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for his car collection and for his RV.
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Unfortunately, he got cancer and died, and so we bought it from the estate
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from his girlfriend, the realtor.
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And she said, well, the name of the place is Rooster Hall.
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You can keep it.
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You can do whatever you want.
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Just wanted to let you know that.
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And I said, you know what?
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We'll keep that name.
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Tip of the cap to him.
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Three years later, or seven years ago, we decided to start a real race team.
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We said, here we go.
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And you know, what are we going to name the team?
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And sorry for all the guys that name it after themselves.
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I wasn't into that.
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Didn't want Todd Brown Racing or TBR or whatever it might be.
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One of the guys on my team said, why don't you call it Rooster Hall Racing?
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I said, you know, that's just wacky enough.
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That's cool enough.
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We'll make it around the rooster.
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You know, we got the biggest rooster in the paddock.
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That's for darn sure.
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And on the side of P.
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G.
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version of that.
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The P.
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G., that's correct.
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That's right.
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Listeners, you can put that together yourselves.
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Yes.
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That's the basic story on how Rooster Haul got started and
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how our racing deal got started.
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I was the owner of the trailer.
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Before Johan came aboard, we had Anthony Magagnoli as a driver.
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And Anthony, we won crew of the year that year.
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The next year, with Johan, we won rookie of the year.
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No, that was Anthony.
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Oh, it was Anthony.
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Anthony won rookie of the year.
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Then we won crew of the year, the first year with Johan.
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Sorry about that.
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And then we won the championship.
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And then this year, I'm going to turn 60 years old this year.
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And I said, You know, I don't have a whole lot of years left of high quality driving.
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Let's do it, Johan.
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Let's go to Sprint X.
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Went out and bought a GT4, M4 GT4.
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Ended up buying yet another, I had an M2 CSR, bought another one, another
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one of those when Colin Garrett's family and Colin came to me, I know his
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father, known his father for 35 years.
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He's an up and coming NASCAR driver, and they said we're looking for him
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to get more road course stuff, good marriage, and we're sitting here
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right after Colin's win here at VIR.
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Congratulations to Colin, by the way.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Yeah, great race.
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He's a consummate professional, and he could really go places.
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He's only 21.
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Yeah, he's fast.
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He's got the pull.
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And he listens.
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Yeah.
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He listens to Vijay Mehrzaran, his coach, and to Johan, his coach here.
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He really absorbs everything they say.
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And that's a true student.
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So you guys are campaigning two cars, an M2 and TCX, which is now currently,
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if you'll, as we talked to Jim Jordan in a previous episode, is comprised
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mostly of BMWs, hoping to change that.
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Right now it's all BMWs.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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He always puts an asterisk there.
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Yeah, he does.
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It's going to change in the future.
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Yeah.
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We're going to see how that goes, so we won't talk about futures.
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And the second car is in Sprint X, where both of you switch off and
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drive the car in a 60 minute race.
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All GT4 cars.
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Yeah, all GT4.
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Which I believe they have 40 of this weekend.
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Yeah, 40.
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Big field.
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Man, popular class.
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For example, this evening, 4.
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05pm, I will drive the first half, hand it over to Johan.
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Tomorrow, he will drive the first half, and hand it over to me.
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Well, we're looking forward to seeing how that race turns out.
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Yeah.
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If you're driving the first half, are other teams, I'm assuming it's split up
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with, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but is it a pro am kind of series?
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This is interesting, and I'll start it, he can finish it.
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We're am am because of our age Okay at a certain age.
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I don't know.
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It's 50 or 55.
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What is it 50 50 you get knocked down One rating one rating if you're a silver
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pro when you pass 50, you're gonna become a bronze If you're a gold or
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platinum, you get knocked down, one.
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Just because your reflexes, they say, aren't as quick as they once were.
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It's probably true.
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My son's, again, probably quicker than mine.
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We can benefit from that in the AM side, because he was a pro.
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But technically is, technically is not now because we're both bronze drivers.
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So we'll be competing in the AM AM.
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Then there's the Pro AM championship, right, where there is a silver rated
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or higher together with a bronze rated.
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That's the pro, and then the silver class, which is both silver drivers.
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So, so there's in a sense three races within that race, all racing
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GT4 cars, but also having their own little internal battles in there.
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Our listeners are about to find out that Johan, you have two records
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under your belt that we know of.
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Yeah.
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Um, well let's start with the, probably the most famous one,
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which is your longest drift record.
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It's in the Guinness Book of World Records.
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We looked it up, it was 8 hours, 232.
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5 miles.
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Correct.
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Tell us about that, what led to you wanting to do that, other
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than just being a drifter in your, in your entire experience.
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Tell us about the refueling, how did that go?
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We saw the videos, we saw, from our perspective, it looked
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kind of interesting, but Yeah.
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How is it from your perspective?
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The start of it was, I used to teach down at the BMW school down in Spartanburg,
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right next to the BMW factory.
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I was leading a class, during lunch somebody asked me, because we go to
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the skid pad and learn skid control, and if people are good at that, we
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also let them drift, you know, see how they can keep the car sideways.
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So as instructors, we demonstrate that, and then we go out of the drift,
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and then it's the student's turn.
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So during lunch, this guy, and I wish I knew who it was, I
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remember who it was, because he's the one that started all this.
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Really, he deserves a lot of credit.
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So, um, he asked me, how long do you take a class?
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I could go without spinning out in the drift.
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I was like, well, I don't know.
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I've never tried.
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And then I went home that night to look at Guinness and see if there
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was a record for the longest drift.
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And there was, and I'm like, and I sent a email to Guinness about the rules for
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that, you know, what parameters we had.
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And it said nothing about that the skid pad could be wet.
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You know, so I didn't want to ask them, can the skid pad be wet?
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Will it still count?
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I read between the lines, I submitted for it, and that was in 2013.
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So I did that basically on my own, using the facility there, in the F10 BMW M5 back
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then, and no refueling, just filled it up.
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And then we had a sponsor.
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I put sponsorships together that all went to charity, the BMW charity, conjunction
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with a golf tournament down there, and then the M school that's down there.
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So I tried to create that triangle of partners that were involved and went
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51 miles and the internet blew up.
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We made our own little video about it.
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It got over a million views.
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I remember coming out of the movie theater after the event and we went in
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to check how many views there was and it went up by a hundred thousand by every
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10, 15 minutes because Yahoo sports.
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taking it in and other and BMW actually took notice to that all the attention.
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It was great.
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It was fun to do.
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Didn't think I was going to do it again.
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Then the new M5 comes out, which now is an all wheel drive
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car and the purest M owner.
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M enthusiast and M car can only be rear wheel drive.
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So then BMW corporate now took the opportunity to say, well, if you turn
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this knob in the car, you can go from all wheel drive to two wheel drive.
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And if you want to, you can drift it for a long time.
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So Guinness now because of this wet record that I set back then, they
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now established, okay, we have a dry record and we have a wet record.
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You have a window of eight hours to see how long you can drift.
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And basically.
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The clock starts and then it stops.
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And then you can stop and change tires or fuel and eat
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lunch, whatever you want to do.
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But we wanted to make it continuous, just like the first record.
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And to make it rival, in order for us to continue drifting for 8 hours or
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6 hours, whatever, we had to refuel.
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We had to basically refuel every hour and a half, every 45, hour, 45 minutes.
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And so that was the rival component of it.
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So I go out, obviously put it in two wheel drive start and BMW's
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goal was to beat the old record.
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Now Toyota had it, you know, so there was back and forth fun rivalry and they just
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wanted to beat it and say, okay, but I was, I was internally set on, prepared
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myself physically with all the right things to be in the car for eight hours.
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But not dehydrate myself, you get the idea.
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Physically or in the car.
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Correct.
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I go out and I start drifting and we had two tanks in the car.
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The main tank which BMW comes with and then the tank on top of it which was the
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one we were going to refuel into and then pump from that tank into the main tank.
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So in order for us not to have any Anything happened with the V Fuel in the
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beginning, we wanted to beat the record.
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We had now three hours worth of fuel and that would allow us
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now to go for the hundred miles.
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I go there and it gets, it gets a little monotonous at the time.
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Still have to throttle and steer all the time, but you know, I
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mean the concentration level.
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So I actually had my phone hooked up to Bluetooth and, uh, made some phone calls.
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Some of the BMW folks that were involved, right, and it was so funny
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to hear them pick up the phone.
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Are you supposed to be drifting right now?
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So, uh, and I called the people that were involved in the previous
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events as sponsors because, you know, they kind of started all this and
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helped it, thanked them for that.
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So, and then after the three hours, then that's when the excitement
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obviously started, you know, because During that time, up till the event,
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we had connected with a guy hanging out the window in the old F 10, right?
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There's now a guy, his name was Matt Butts, and a guy called Matt
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Mullins was driving that fuel car, hanging out the window to connect.
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You have to turn it half a turn to lock it in, then the fuel pump
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has to go on to transfer the fuel into the, uh, to my accelerator
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tank and then have to disconnect.
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But we come to find out in our practice that when I am doing that, to connect,
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I And I have to then increase the RPMs to keep the angle that makes the engine
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because there's no air coming in, right?
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So it's very hard on the whole drivetrain and engine.
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I had to look at it, keep my eye on the oil temp and I knew when
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it was going to go into lip mode.
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If that thing goes into lip mode being connected, it's like taking your foot off
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the gas and it was going to straighten up and Met, but that's hanging there.
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Yeah.
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Crush, you know, I mean crushed.
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Yeah.
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He had, I don't know what waiver he signed or . What attorney signed
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off on this project back then and BM BMW say, yeah, go ahead and do that.
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It's not dangerous at all.
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No, for sure.
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So he was certainly the guy that was gonna be the meat and sandwich.
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Right.
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So I had the authority to override whenever there was enough fuel in
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the car and we had to disconnect.
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We did that five times throughout the process.
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Where two times we were just about to connect and we were starting
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to increase the temperature.
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I figured we could only stay connected for maybe 10 seconds.
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It was not worth the risk.
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So then we would in a sense not hook up and I would kind of increase
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my speed again to cool down the engine to go for another refuel.
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And then at one point I would say maybe six hours in and the guy
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from Guinness, you know, he's there counting laps, you know, he's like.
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This is not, you know, I've used a guy in five minutes or
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something like that or watermelons.
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And so he's like, okay.
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So I get the radio call from the BMW person and said, you know,
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you can stop now if you want.
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We got the record.
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I said, you know what?
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I'm out here for all eight hours.
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Sorry.
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You know, because we don't know if this has got to be another opportunity.
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So I want to put the test to somebody to go out and beat it.
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So we stayed for eight hours, did the record and it also blew up.
21:12
Up and now corporate obviously took it in and, and really made a big deal out of it.
21:16
I went to a dealership not too long ago and they're still playing the same video
21:20
you probably watched in the dealership and everybody that gets recruited into
21:25
BMW on the mechanical side, when they go into training and come in the first
21:30
time they show that video to, for them to get excited about the brand.
21:34
So it's kind of neat to be part of that.
21:36
And again, it was started by that guy that raised his hand in that class
21:39
and said, how long do you think you could Yeah, and according to the
21:44
video, you didn't just beat the record.
21:46
You annihilated it.
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Yeah, we did.
21:47
Yeah, we did.
21:48
And that was my goal.
21:50
So a lot of folks know us.
21:52
Through that in a rooster haul because of Johan question.
21:56
I get is Johan How in the world did you have to go to the bathroom?
22:00
I know Yeah, I get that and I do I get that all the time That is
22:05
you know, that's the one that's on top of mind of everybody Right?
22:09
And, uh, so they're a little, you know, when they raise their hand, and I just
22:13
say, just like the astronauts do it.
22:15
And then they can look it up on the internet how the astronauts do it.
22:18
And that's how I did it.
22:19
And I did that all on my own because my goal was to be out there for eight hours.
22:23
And he's eating cookies and crackers.
22:26
Yeah, well, I wasn't, so my diet was obviously water to stay hydrated.
22:31
And then I was eating what, uh, the bicyclist, you know, that
22:35
does, uh, the Tour de France.
22:37
So, it was not a non solid diet, because the other one, I wasn't quite born.
22:46
But you have another record under your belt, and we talked about
22:50
this on a previous drive through.
22:51
through news episode.
22:53
And it's very fortunate that we're here talking to you at VIR today
22:56
because you hold the record for the fastest lap in an EV in the Tesla plan.
23:02
And we actually, again, we talked about this on a previous episode,
23:04
and this was to take away the record from Porsche in the take hand.
23:08
We found out that you were the driver of that vehicle.
23:11
And we want to talk to you about that experience.
23:13
When you think about driving the EVs, you know, the evolution as we call
23:17
it, or the EV revolution, the future of racing with EVs, stuff like that.
23:20
So let's get your take.
23:21
on that hot lap here at V.
23:23
I.
23:23
R.
23:24
There was a super exciting project.
23:26
Carmine, which is, um, the guy that had the car and he's got
23:29
a shop here in North Carolina.
23:31
Him and I got to be friends when I was doing some shock development
23:34
for Ohlins for their club racing.
23:36
And we met each other.
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He had the BMW.
23:38
I was test driving for Ohlins.
23:40
And then we just stayed connected.
23:42
Next thing you know, they put on the event here for, to set the, the record.
23:46
And that was for the Grand Course.
23:48
Yeah.
23:49
Yeah.
23:49
So that is kind of like the, the Nordschleife, right?
23:53
Uh, for, for the U S car and driver is the one that comes
23:57
in and does it all the time.
23:58
So our goal was to go in and beat the Porsche record that
24:01
had carbon brakes, right?
24:02
That had really cool suspension.
24:04
I believe they have a two speed transmission as well, so they can
24:08
really work in the right torque range.
24:10
And it was kind of a last minute deal.
24:11
We didn't really have any, we had 300 tread wear tires, so not
24:15
nothing, not even 200, not even 200.
24:18
You did modify the brakes Pads.
24:21
Oh, okay.
24:22
No, no.
24:22
The calipers too?
24:24
Not the calipers, but the rotors.
24:25
Rotors, okay.
24:26
But that does come on, Tesla does offer a carbon option.
24:31
But other than that, the vehicle was stock.
24:32
Completely stock.
24:33
Wow.
24:34
Yeah, completely stock.
24:36
Really the only electrical vehicle I had driven was somebody I had
24:39
instructed that got a Tesla, the non plaid, this is maybe five years ago.
24:43
He's like, I want you to drive it, I want you to feel the acceleration.
24:46
And I remember I punched out, he put it in ludicrous mode.
24:49
I punched it and I really, I was like, I was taken back.
24:53
The acceleration was amazing, right?
24:54
Have you all been in Ludacris?
24:56
Yeah.
24:57
I have not, no.
24:58
It is, it is life changing.
24:59
Yeah.
25:00
Yeah, it's like being in a top shelf dragster.
25:01
Almost, yeah.
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Yeah.
25:02
And if you don't put your head back, it'll put it back for you.
25:05
Oh, it'll put it back.
25:05
Right.
25:06
I'm like, kind of excited about it, but also a little bit nervous.
25:09
Am I gonna get that sensation out here at the track, especially
25:12
with a thousand horsepower?
25:14
on this plaid go out and run it kind of, you know, 5, 000 pounds.
25:18
I can feel it's heavy.
25:19
The brakes are working pretty good, but I am also feeling the
25:22
pedal getting a little long because they're generating some serious heat.
25:26
And this is a dual motor Tesla, right?
25:28
So four wheel drive, basically.
25:29
Yeah, I believe that has actually three motors.
25:32
It has one for the front axle.
25:34
And two in the rear, one for each rear tire.
25:36
Acting as a diff, basically.
25:38
Correct.
25:38
Yeah.
25:40
And I mean, when I heard a thousand horsepower, right?
25:42
I mean, it, it, that's a, that's a drag racer that sits there
25:46
and lopes on the cam, right?
25:47
Yeah.
25:48
That has that kind of horsepower.
25:50
Go out, kind of get used to it.
25:52
I mean, I was amazed, 5, 000 pounds.
25:54
You know, it did very well.
25:55
I got on the curbs, suspension absorbed that very well, too.
25:59
You know, kind of known, trying to see what ideal line, again,
26:02
our goal was to beat the record.
26:04
Kind of get an idea.
26:05
The idea about fuel consumption, reading the display for when I have
26:08
the power and when I'm overheating the battery, the conclusion was I
26:12
basically had one lap with full power.
26:16
And then it starts going into where the battery heats up and all that.
26:19
I still have amazing speed, but I will not be able to go faster.
26:24
So it's Everything you got on one lap.
26:27
And then we had laid out logistically to go and charge
26:30
the batteries in South Boston.
26:32
There's a supercharger there.
26:34
So in between sessions, we boogied in there, sat there, you know, 40
26:38
minute, charge the thing up, go back again, set ourselves up, you know,
26:42
slow lap out, get some heat in the tires, and then one hot lap and then
26:46
cool it down and then back to the, so I basically had a total of five laps
26:50
throughout that day, long day for five laps, long day, but it was fun, right?
26:54
The whole logistic.
26:55
The whole logistical component of it, of going to South Boston,
26:59
being back in time when we were up again and all that, was really fun.
27:03
And if you see the video, I think it's turn 9?
27:06
No, it's up to the S's.
27:07
Up to the S's?
27:08
Yeah.
27:09
Oh my gosh.
27:10
Yeah.
27:10
He gets sideways.
27:12
And his steering wheel is almost at full lock, and he comes back,
27:15
and this car doesn't have any aero.
27:17
Well, and that's the funny part about when we reviewed the article, when it came
27:21
out and everything, my, uh, my sister, who's one of the other hosts on the drive
27:25
thru, she goes, Did you see the part of the video where he almost bins it?
27:29
I know.
27:30
And so, the cool thing about this whole thing is, the lap before I
27:34
did the faster lap, I'd already beaten the record, so I had that.
27:39
So I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna try to send it up through the S Send it.
27:43
Yeah.
27:43
And see what happens.
27:44
And I obviously said it a little too hard, and I'm remembering
27:48
when I got locked to one side, I'm like, I'm not sure how this is.
27:52
Could be interesting.
27:53
This could either go really viral or I'm gonna try to obviously keep it on track.
27:58
And then it goes the other, you know, basically creates a tank slapper.
28:01
Right.
28:01
So when we look at the data from the other lap, I did lose about
28:05
six or seven tenths by that.
28:07
But then I gained up elsewhere because I was still like
28:10
determined when I caught it.
28:12
I'm like, I still got it.
28:13
Let's see what we got.
28:14
And then beat it on a little bit further on that lap.
28:17
So that's why that lap made it right.
28:20
And obviously the whole exciting part that everybody has been emailing and
28:25
texting me about is when I'm sideways.
28:28
Did you see I still hit my apexes even though I was sideways?
28:32
It comes from drifting the BMW.
28:34
So that said, I've also coached some HPD folks with Teslas.
28:39
I've driven one as well.
28:40
I came away from the car going, It handles like a 911.
28:44
That's what I kept thinking.
28:45
So I'm wondering if your impression was the same and what your thoughts
28:48
are of the handling of the Tesla's and do they have a Future in let's
28:52
say even amateur motorsports.
28:53
Yeah, you know, I think you know a lot of manufacturers I
28:56
mean, I think the statement the big statement is the GM, right?
28:59
What's that, you know in two or three years they got their goal is to be
29:02
all electrical So the commitment is obviously there from the manufacturers
29:07
as a purist fortunate enough to drive that Ford 944 that I drive an SCCA in
29:13
the STU class and you know, it sits there and I the KM and doesn't get
29:17
to life before 6, 000 RPMs, right?
29:19
So I think those days are slowly going away where the electrical is going to
29:23
take over and you see it in Europe, they now have the TC cars that are basically
29:29
all there with electrical motors and.
29:31
Going extremely fast.
29:32
Formula E.
29:33
Formula E, you know, it will take maybe some time.
29:36
You see the the two person drive, you know, where I think Hamilton
29:40
owns a team and, you know, they race out in the desert, right?
29:44
Dakar, right?
29:44
Yeah.
29:45
Yeah.
29:46
No, it's not Dakar.
29:46
It's a, it's an EV off road series.
29:50
Yeah.
29:51
I'm thinking about the Audi Dakar.
29:53
Yeah.
29:54
But I think that they also had a electrical vehicle
29:57
that race in da car, right?
29:59
Mm-Hmm.
29:59
. So it's interesting that the ones that made the, uh, the
30:02
name for the diesels, right.
30:04
Which was Audi vw, and then they got a little trouble then, then they
30:07
immediately went to the EV route.
30:09
Right.
30:09
They had a little bit of trouble.
30:10
Yeah.
30:11
Right.
30:11
A little bit of trouble.
30:11
As a matter of fact, there's a great story behind that.
30:14
Yeah.
30:14
When, when you guys have a chance, so.
30:16
Our car was sponsored by West Virginia University for two years.
30:21
Dr.
30:21
Scott Wayne is the head of the Formula SAE department.
30:25
Each year, two students would come on to our team and be integrated, and
30:29
we'd find them jobs in motorsports.
30:32
Integrated for the team throughout the season?
30:35
Yeah.
30:35
And it was a great program.
30:36
It was awesome.
30:37
Well, he was the one that found it out.
30:40
Yeah.
30:41
And I got the whole story directly from him.
30:43
Yeah.
30:44
That's where Dieselgate starts.
30:45
That's where it started.
30:46
That's where it started.
30:47
And he started to prove how good clean diesel was.
30:52
And it kind of backfired.
30:54
Yeah, it's a fun story.
30:55
for another episode.
30:57
It's certainly a story, and maybe he even wants to tell about this story.
31:00
So, let's, let's touch on one thing, Johan.
31:02
So, the biggest drawback to the EVs right now is probably the weight, right?
31:06
Weight and range, I mean.
31:07
And I think the other thing I hear from a lot of people to your kind of
31:11
underlying point about your 944, etc.,
31:13
is there's no sound.
31:14
You don't get that loping, you don't get that acceleration, that build up,
31:17
it's just power and plateau, right?
31:19
That's the thing.
31:20
way right now.
31:21
Are you sold yet?
31:22
I mean, uh, you know, I, I would, and I've been thinking about this, especially if,
31:26
so I go to Denmark once a year and racing the streets of Copenhagen and they had
31:30
the electrical touring cars over there.
31:32
And I'm like, if there ever is an opportunity where that comes over
31:35
here, I will try to see if I can't get to drive one of those cars
31:39
and be involved in that series.
31:41
Because I think there's such a push from the manufacturers to go that route.
31:45
That you would have big support for that.
31:48
You may have the hybrid version of racing, which is in a lot of forms now.
31:51
I mean, Formula 1 is in many respects hybrid.
31:54
You look at Le Mans too, WEC, right?
31:56
Yeah.
31:57
So, you know, we'll go that route likely first before we'll go all EV
32:02
because you don't want to see a car lightning fast at the beginning of
32:05
the race and substantially slower You get into that conversation
32:10
about balance of power too, right?
32:11
How do you let that take hand against a Corvette, right?
32:15
It just, it doesn't work.
32:15
It doesn't.
32:17
And what's interesting is what I was impressed.
32:19
I mean, the little whining and all that kind of was, it was
32:22
pretty cool to be inside that whining and just hearing the air.
32:26
But then I, uh, somebody took a video of the car coming by on the outside and
32:30
all you hear is that wind moving and I thought that was actually a pretty cool
32:35
sound because you don't normally hear that because it's overwhelmed by the engine.
32:39
At the beginning of that video, he comes by, all you hear is this whoosh.
32:43
It looks like the car's in fast motion, like they sped
32:45
up the film, but they didn't.
32:47
Yeah.
32:47
It's that blasted fast.
32:49
We were going, I think, 155 or something like going into turn two, turn one, right?
32:54
They can fly.
32:55
And then to that point, I think Tesla tried to start an electric series.
32:58
So they were looking for drivers a couple of years ago to start an electric series.
33:02
I don't know about that.
33:03
I know Jaguar made like a really sharp looking SUV that they were
33:08
going to race as a high port series in conjunction with Formula E.
33:12
Yeah.
33:13
I don't know how that was perceived or not.
33:15
Yeah.
33:16
Yeah.
33:17
But moving on a little bit, you guys earlier joked that you have
33:20
a combined experience of 114 years racing between the two of you.
33:26
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 114 years of life, of life, of age, of racing,
33:32
114 years of age between you two.
33:34
Right, right, right.
33:36
So outside of age.
33:37
Todd is 85.
33:38
Todd is 85.
33:39
So what we think, we're not sure, but.
33:42
Just kind of putting two and two together, we think we may have
33:45
that label here at the track.
33:47
So again, another record.
33:48
Yes, right.
33:49
The oldest two drivers combined in SRO, in the United States, right?
33:54
So let's talk about SRO and your experiences here.
33:58
What drew you to race with SRO?
34:01
Why should more people look to join the SRO series?
34:04
First of all, it's sprint racing.
34:07
That's what the SR stands for?
34:08
No.
34:09
It's Stephane Rattel.
34:13
Well, first of all, that's where I cut my teeth, without
34:15
question, in BMW Club Racing.
34:17
We've had hour and a half races, but they're normally 25 to 40 minutes.
34:22
Let me tell you that's enough to wear you out.
34:24
Okay, but I believe from a fan's point of view, it's much better to
34:30
watch a 40 minute race or maybe an hour as opposed to a four hour race.
34:34
You lose your attention a bit.
34:37
I know I'm a giant motor.
34:40
I'm famous for falling asleep in the middle of a NASCAR race
34:43
and waking up either right before or right after it ended.
34:46
I think the sprint side of things is very attractive to me and to the watching
34:51
audience or listening audience perhaps.
34:53
You know, also because, you know, there are two professional
34:56
sports car series in the U.
34:58
S., right?
34:58
There's SRO and there's IMSA.
35:01
And if you want to go into pro racing, there is one of those two to pick from.
35:06
And SRO is catering a little more to make it, you know, if you
35:09
can call it more cost effective.
35:11
There is obviously no such thing as cheap racing, right?
35:13
But it is a little more cost effective than to run IMSA
35:17
because there's no fuel stops.
35:19
But they still have the component of the endurance, but making a shorter race.
35:24
So that's why Todd and I are racing on a team together.
35:27
We are a two driver team, but we don't have to have all the fuel
35:31
rigs, the manpower to fuel, the manpower to change tires and all that.
35:35
So the cost is obviously not there, but the excitement of being two
35:39
drivers in a car is there playing at, in a field where all the cars are,
35:44
by definition should be equal, right?
35:47
That's what makes it appealing.
35:49
You know, it's hard to find that anywhere else.
35:51
So if you want to go longer races, then MCEL And when we started
35:55
it, we started in touring car.
35:57
Yeah.
35:57
In TC and the BMW M235, which became the M240.
36:03
IR, R stands for racing factory race car.
36:06
There was a place for that here.
36:08
And there wasn't a place for it in many other places, and that, I thought that was
36:12
the best car for the money in the world.
36:15
Because, you know, my club race car, I've got a lot more money in
36:19
that than I would have in the TC car, and it's a 20 year old car.
36:24
You pile money into these things, that's what, that's what it is.
36:27
And then also the professional component, which the coverage of it,
36:30
so that obviously, Uh, gave us some leverage and the exposure for Miss
36:34
Virginia and exposing the team to the pro side because, you know, you go
36:40
here and look in the paddock, right?
36:41
I mean, people are up on scales, the wheels are off,
36:44
you see the string on there.
36:45
So it really becomes competitive, not just on the track, but
36:50
also in the garage, right?
36:52
And when we got that competitive DNA in us, Hey, can we play at this field?
36:57
And let's see how I don't like to lose it.
36:58
Putt, putt, exactly.
37:00
You know, that's exactly.
37:02
And to your point, I know jokingly around the paddock, IMSA is referred to as an
37:06
air quotes, the other series, but you know, there's a lot of fanfare and a
37:11
lot of pomp and circumstance when you go over there and it's, you know, they
37:13
draw huge crowds, a lot of it's backed by, let's say NASCAR and other places.
37:16
It's owned by NASCAR.
37:17
Yeah.
37:18
Based on the tracks they go to, et cetera.
37:19
But you come here and you, you quickly remember.
37:24
It's a little bit more grassroots, but not grassroots.
37:26
Right, exactly.
37:27
It's a beautiful blend of the two.
37:29
And it's enjoyable to watch you guys out there running together.
37:32
The multi class racing, for me, is fantastic.
37:35
I've always enjoyed it.
37:35
That's what draws me to WEC and IMSA and everything.
37:38
So, again, congratulations.
37:39
And I'm a big IMSA fan.
37:40
Yeah.
37:41
I am.
37:41
And, you know, I was going to run this next January in an LMP3 car.
37:47
I was given great advice.
37:49
Todd, if you're going to do this, stop your sports car racing six
37:53
months before and just do the LMP3.
37:56
Because the downforce cars, it's a completely different mindset.
38:00
To relearn, yeah.
38:01
The faster you go, the more stick you have.
38:03
And I did two test sessions with the LMP3.
38:06
I spun five times here and at Road Atlanta when I was going around slow turns.
38:12
Because you think it would have stick, and it doesn't.
38:15
Now it's mechanical grip.
38:16
Yeah.
38:17
You know, now it's back to where it was before, with a, with a normal
38:20
car, whereas in the fast corners, now you have the aero grip, so it's
38:24
that transition back and forth.
38:26
So we, we decided to do this, and we may, we're talking about it, we may
38:31
do the, the series just the day before the 24, down there in Daytona next
38:37
year, with the car that we have here.
38:39
Yeah, with the Michelin Tire Challenge.
38:40
Is that the Roar before the 24?
38:42
No, it's the Michelin Tire Challenge.
38:44
And actually, I think that's a great segue into talking about
38:48
the future of Rooster Hall Racing.
38:50
So, what does the next couple of years look like for you guys?
38:54
That's a great question.
38:55
I just retired from my real job, if you will.
39:00
I own an investment firm for And Todd was very good at it, so he could retire early.
39:06
Yeah.
39:06
At 85 years old.
39:08
Yeah.
39:10
That's the only way we do that math.
39:12
So, it's, it is an expensive sport.
39:16
At a certain point you've got to treat it as a business.
39:18
And if you can't make money, or, not lose a lot, you might have to hang it up.
39:25
There's a whole lot of teams that have come and gone, but we had
39:29
to take a year off during COVID because we didn't have sponsorship.
39:33
Now we got sponsorship with Colin and his team and some stuff that
39:37
we've got because I mean it cost and I'll say it pretty openly.
39:43
It costs about a quarter of a million dollars to run that TC car a year.
39:47
I've done pretty well in life, but I just can't afford to spend a quarter
39:50
of a million dollars every year on letting somebody else drive my car.
39:53
And it's about that same amount in my car.
39:56
There's a half a million dollars.
39:58
These teams that have these GT three cars, there's some deep pockets somewhere
40:02
because you know, there's a million dollars a pop a car or more in some cases.
40:07
So this is a very expensive sport and it's gotta be.
40:10
Treat it as a business.
40:12
And I think my goal is to do this until I'm 70 for 10 more years.
40:17
And then we'll see where it goes from there.
40:19
You have to have goals in life.
40:21
And that's what drives me.
40:23
You know, again, I'm 60 in a few months starting my
40:27
professional racing career now.
40:29
Holy crap.
40:29
That's, that's late in life.
40:31
Now I've had a personal trainer for 12 years just for racing.
40:36
She comes to my house.
40:37
I have a gym in my home.
40:39
She comes to my house and I used to go to Gold's gym.
40:41
When I retired, I put a gym in my house and she works my tail off.
40:47
Now, could I eat a little bit better?
40:48
We all could, but I'm in pretty darn good shape for my age.
40:52
You have to to stay up with these 20 some year olds.
40:55
Again, our reflexes get a little slower.
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Muscle reaction gets a little slower.
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I want to race for at least five more years and I wouldn't mind 10 years.
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And then we'll see where it goes from there.
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We had three cars by the way, in 2019, and then one of our drivers
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had a very bad accident in a club race and had to retire from racing.
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So we went down to two.
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We now have two.
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I see us with three cars in the future, maybe four, but I will tell
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you at a certain level, it's managing people and you're not racing anymore.
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You're managing people and you got to make a decision.
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Do you want to be a manager of people or do you want to go race?
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There's that balance there too.
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And how much money am I willing to put into the business out of my
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pocket that sponsorship may not cover?
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That's a tough one.
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It is on that side of things, you know, with, with Todd, with four cars, when
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we were three cars, Todd wasn't racing, I was driving for Todd in the TC.
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So I was here managing people.
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Now Todd obviously wants to race, right?
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And you can't be Thinking about managing people when you're out there driving.
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Todd needs to have fun, right?
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Otherwise it's not fun.
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So, think about this.
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We've got 30 or 40 people out here because Colin Garrett, our TC driver,
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TCS driver, lives 15 minutes away.
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And he's backed by this military community and he's all involved with that.
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And there's a bunch of military owned companies that are here,
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represented by several people.
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So we have 30 or 40 people out there.
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So you're running a team, you're entertaining, you're entertaining.
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You're trying to get enough liquids in you and you're driving and one
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person can only do but so much.
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My wife, and this is very important, my wife couldn't make it this weekend.
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She had some health issues she's dealing with.
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She technically owns the team and without her, there's no way
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I could do it without Michelle.
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She's integral and I will tell you.
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There's no big secret that Karen, Johan's wife, is a big secret to his success.
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Yep.
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That woman behind a man.
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Yeah.
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And you know, my wife is one of the few that come to the track every race.
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Club race, pro race, whatever.
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When she's not there, everybody says, where's Michelle?
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So, I count my blessings.
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I'm incredibly blessed to have a wife that not only Accepts what
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I do, but helps be part of this and she owns Rooster Hull Racing.
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Johan, any records in your future that you want to break?
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It's funny you should ask because somebody contacted me about combining my drifting
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and the EV side of things, you know, because that's also held by a Porsche.
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So it would be fun to do.
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So we are working a little bit on doing that and finding the
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facility for that, which we have.
43:41
Now it's just putting it all together.
43:43
So you might say, I see an EV drifting record here, not
43:47
within, yeah, too, too long.
43:49
I would ask Johan what his opinion is of Porsche, but I think we know.
43:52
Yeah, I think we know the answer to that.
43:53
What is what?
43:54
Your opinion is of Porsche, but I think we know.
43:56
Well, actually I drive one.
43:58
I love Porsches, but I also love to keep their records.
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I have a Porsche GT4.
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Yeah, so, so, yeah.
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Well that said, let's get your thoughts on the reveal of the new BMW.
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Are you guys going to be upgrading vehicles next year now that we've
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seen it for the first time at EIR?
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Likely.
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I've been given advice to get two or three of them, but a couple hundred
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thousand dollars a pop, you know, that is not probably in the cards for that.
44:23
What's the biggest draw?
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Do you think switching to the new car early on the AC?
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Well, yeah, maybe.
44:30
We talked about that at length, actually.
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We're behind the curve this year because we just got the car and we
44:37
just took it to track immediately.
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And it's taken us the third race weekend to figure it out.
44:43
So, obviously, when you get a car and you get it ahead of time, and you get
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a chance to you know, work out the bugs and figure out what it likes.
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And that's really the key.
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What is the car like?
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Does it like more camber?
44:57
Does it like more tow?
44:58
Does it like more cross?
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You know what it brings set up, spring set up, shine, all that, you
45:04
know, and the car is in my opinion, somewhere between this car that we have
45:12
now, the M4 GT4 and the now M4 GT3.
45:17
It's somewhere in the middle there.
45:18
It's more of a race car.
45:20
It appears to be more safe, which is even better.
45:23
Even has a hatch in the roof to extract somebody in case of emergency.
45:28
I think that's important.
45:30
And there's also some front shims now, which makes it a lot more efficient.
45:37
For our type of racing, Johan's substantially taller than me.
45:41
So we have to pull the seat.
45:43
The seat stays stationary in the GT4.
45:45
The pedal box moves forward and back.
45:48
On the new one, they have stops that you can put at different areas.
45:52
So we put it full to the stop on the front for Johan, and full to the
45:56
back wherever I want my stop to be.
45:58
So it's boom, boom.
45:59
And now, we have to write, we have to take white chalk and write, put lines in there
46:04
and I gotta kinda pull it back to that.
46:06
You know, so this would be a lot easier.
46:08
I smirked when I heard about that particular feature because I thought
46:11
about it and I said, go karts have had that for as long as I can remember.
46:15
I know.
46:16
The adjustable pedal box, right?
46:18
Exactly.
46:19
So that has the same, but it's a little, uh, where you can
46:22
just use some stops with it.
46:24
I think it's a good looking car.
46:25
I'm not a big fan of big grilles on BMWs, but I think they did a good job.
46:29
They're growing on me, by the way.
46:30
Yeah, they do.
46:32
I think it's the liveries that help.
46:33
When you see them in just plain dress, you're just like, wow.
46:36
Well, let me tell you, I just ordered a 2022 M4 Competition X Drive last week.
46:44
So, in black.
46:46
No, no, no, in Dravet Gray, which is the coolest color in the world.
46:49
But it's got the big grill.
46:51
It's a darker car, which kind of, you know, so a little bit.
46:54
But when I first saw that grill, I thought it looked hideous.
46:57
Somehow, it's growing on me.
46:59
I think the GT3 probably is better.
47:00
No, it's, it's, I can't say completely attractive, but it's really growing on me.
47:07
Oh, and this car, this new race car, is an automatic transmission, whereas the
47:13
race car we have now is a dual clutch.
47:15
So they're going backwards in some respects, but they say it shifts faster.
47:19
And the dual clutch does, which is hard to imagine.
47:21
Well, this also shows you how far automatic transmissions have come, right?
47:25
I mean, when they're shifting that quick and the durability and there's less, you
47:28
know, uh, mechanical components in there.
47:31
So it makes it extremely durable that the 240 was also an automatic transmission.
47:36
They made into a paddle shift and remember how durable that is.
47:39
This is a straight six, three liter with 550 horsepower.
47:43
Yeah.
47:44
And I believe they said for tuning wise, uh, or making changes on
47:47
the fly, it can all be done.
47:49
You need no connecting laptops or any of that stuff.
47:51
Right, you can do it in the pits, not while you're driving, but yeah.
47:53
Yeah, of course, but you do it right there from inside the car.
47:55
Yeah, which is pretty important.
47:57
And traction, traction control too.
47:58
So, Todd, he told me about the new M4, uh, xDrive that you bought.
48:02
And I'm super excited, I can't wait to drive it.
48:04
But when he makes the phone call to me and says, Hey, I just bought a new GT4 M4.
48:09
We're going to drive it next year.
48:11
Then I'm going to be really excited.
48:15
So on that note, any shout outs, promotions, or anything else you'd like
48:19
to share that we didn't cover this far?
48:21
Number one, my wife without her, I wouldn't be here without her support.
48:25
We wouldn't be here.
48:27
I'm sorry.
48:27
She couldn't make it this weekend, but daggone it.
48:30
She's a big part of this.
48:32
And to all our supporters who follow us, my daughter, I haven't
48:36
talked about her too much.
48:37
She's out in San Diego.
48:39
She's getting into the sport now at age 29, looking very much forward to that.
48:43
My personal selfish goal is that I can be on the track with my son
48:47
and my daughter at the same time.
48:49
Unfortunately, I lost my oldest daughter 13 years ago and she'll never be replaced.
48:54
My daughter is a, she's got 20, 000 followers on Instagram.
48:59
She's a bodybuilder.
49:00
She was nationally ranked and a great soccer player.
49:03
And I think because she's so coordinated and she's an athlete, she'll fit
49:07
really well into this racing.
49:09
I'll tell you, it's true.
49:10
You have to be an athlete and you have to be coordinated to do this.
49:14
You don't, See uncoordinated people do this.
49:17
We emphasize all the time that sport is a real thing in motor sports.
49:21
Yes, it is.
49:21
Not just driving around.
49:22
I played college soccer.
49:24
I know what sport is at the highest level.
49:26
My daughter played for West Virginia University.
49:28
Top 10 in the country.
49:30
Athletics are athletics.
49:31
This is sport.
49:32
It's a workout.
49:34
And at the end of the half an hour run, when you're giving it 100%,
49:39
you get out of that car exhausted.
49:41
Exhausted.
49:41
Our cockpit, we saw, you know, it's 132 degrees.
49:45
We sit with a helmet and a suit on.
49:47
It's certainly some And a lot of pressure.
49:49
Yeah.
49:49
And the air conditioner only works when we put the brakes on.
49:52
Yeah.
49:52
And we try to use the brakes as little as possible, right?
49:55
Yeah.
49:55
Because what's that for?
49:56
To slow you down.
49:57
Yeah.
49:58
For me, it's kind of what I wanted to say what Todd said.
50:01
You know, I have the family Family support and obviously I'm here
50:04
because of Todd and the partnership that we have established since 2018.
50:09
And friendship.
50:10
Yeah, absolutely.
50:11
We have a great friendship.
50:12
And while you were talking, I realized your background is kind of
50:16
like the same how you got involved.
50:18
It was all self propelled, right?
50:20
We didn't have a parent that she took you to Le Mans, but you remember the
50:24
cars that are parked in the street.
50:25
I remember, I could recognize all the cars that we were driven by and throughout
50:30
life for me and for Todd, it sounds like we It was always a priority that we saw
50:36
as, you know, when I went to college, I think I may have gone to two parties
50:40
because I was always trying to find out where's the race, where can I go, where
50:43
can I meet people and stuff like that.
50:45
So I'm very fortunate and I hope we will do it some more.
50:48
You either have a car gene or you don't.
50:50
Yeah.
50:51
You guys obviously do.
50:52
Yeah.
50:52
We do.
50:54
And most of our close friends do because of this wonderful
50:57
sport we're involved with.
50:59
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