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- 0:47Speaker 2: Choice. I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about
- 0:49Speaker 2: everything and everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that, right,
- 0:53Speaker 2: Lauren came in hot. All righty y'all, we are back.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Agame We are in week two of the latest with
- 0:59Speaker 2: Lauren the Road the podcast and you know, a daily podcast.
- 1:03Speaker 2: It's a hustle, it's a grind. But I mean, this
- 1:05Speaker 2: is what I do. I literally sit on my phone
- 1:07Speaker 2: live and breathe, text, talk, call, reach out, email about
- 1:12Speaker 2: you know, entertainment, news and pop culture stuff all day
- 1:14Speaker 2: long up until a certain point. I will cut it
- 1:16Speaker 2: off at some point because I'd be like, all right,
- 1:17Speaker 2: I gotta eat, I gotta you know what I mean.
- 1:18Speaker 2: But I mean I say that to say it's ongoing,
- 1:21Speaker 2: so this is not hard to do. What has been
- 1:24Speaker 2: the challenge in this new phase in life with dropping
- 1:27Speaker 2: the podcast and you know us rolling out the Ladies
- 1:30Speaker 2: with Laura la Rosa, the breakfast club iteration of it,
- 1:33Speaker 2: and I do a show with BT called BT Talks,
- 1:35Speaker 2: has been balance of life. My mom called me today
- 1:39Speaker 2: and she was like, hey, what you doing for She
- 1:41Speaker 2: called me twice and I was on a zoom call
- 1:44Speaker 2: with my assistant and I answered and I'm like, hey, mam,
- 1:46Speaker 2: you alright And she was like, yeah, I'm fine, what
- 1:48Speaker 2: you're doing. You don't call me no more? And I'm like,
- 1:51Speaker 2: that's the third time. She told me that this week
- 1:53Speaker 2: and the way I'm set up with my mom and
- 1:55Speaker 2: my grandmam, I talk to them every single day. If
- 1:57Speaker 2: they don't hear from me, they're like, what the hell
- 2:00Speaker 2: is going on? Sometimes my grandmother will be like, oh,
- 2:02Speaker 2: she's busy, So she'll call my mom and be like, oh,
- 2:04Speaker 2: did you talk to Lolo? That's my family nickname, So
- 2:05Speaker 2: y'all family now, because y'all don't y'all know my nickname.
- 2:09Speaker 2: She'd be like, hey, have you talked the Lolo? And
- 2:10Speaker 2: my mom will tell her like, oh, yeah, I talk
- 2:12Speaker 2: to her. She was doing such and such and such
- 2:14Speaker 2: and such. So my grandma would just let it rock
- 2:16Speaker 2: because she's like, yo, you're running around, you doing so much.
- 2:18Speaker 2: My mom ain't letting nothing rock at all. She want
- 2:22Speaker 2: all the smoke. She wants to talk to me every day.
- 2:23Speaker 2: She wants to know why she's not talking to me
- 2:25Speaker 2: every day. She wants to know, you know, if I'm
- 2:27Speaker 2: doing all this work, am I being paid with the coin?
- 2:30Speaker 2: Looking like baby Lois? That's my mom's name. She don't
- 2:34Speaker 2: play no games at all. But I think, you know,
- 2:37Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about today, just feeling kind
- 2:39Speaker 2: of guilty for that, and guilty for the fact that
- 2:43Speaker 2: just within his last two weeks, my time, this last
- 2:45Speaker 2: couple of months, my time has changed because I'm getting
- 2:48Speaker 2: busier and things are moving, and I just wanted to
- 2:51Speaker 2: be moved slow about it and take on one project
- 2:54Speaker 2: at a time and then bring other things in. And
- 2:56Speaker 2: then now everything kind of hit at once. Everything I
- 2:58Speaker 2: was slowly taking on that one time. It's like it's
- 3:00Speaker 2: all it's all on the table, and we ain't even
- 3:02Speaker 2: nothing on the table. We ain't living, no money on
- 3:04Speaker 2: the table. So you know, I'm here and I'm doing it.
- 3:07Speaker 2: But I'm not able to go home to Delaware and
- 3:10Speaker 2: just sit and play cards and eat crabs with my
- 3:13Speaker 2: grandmom as much as I was before. I can't sit
- 3:15Speaker 2: on the phone on the phone all day with my
- 3:17Speaker 2: mom as much as I was doing before. And I
- 3:19Speaker 2: know that they have such a dependency on me, especially
- 3:22Speaker 2: because I'm my mom and my grandmother's caretaker. So even
- 3:25Speaker 2: though I don't live in Delaware, me my brother, we
- 3:28Speaker 2: make sure that they're straight, they're older, they've both gone
- 3:30Speaker 2: through health stuff, so there is a really strong dependency there,
- 3:34Speaker 2: especially because of their age, but especially because you know,
- 3:37Speaker 2: like medically. They've just been through things where it's helping
- 3:41Speaker 2: that we me and my brother know more than they
- 3:43Speaker 2: do right now. So you know, I'm making sure you know,
- 3:48Speaker 2: they're eating how they're supposed to eat. They got help
- 3:50Speaker 2: in the home. The homes are being cleaned and all
- 3:54Speaker 2: that good stuff, even when I can't be there. So
- 3:56Speaker 2: that's that's what I've been figuring out so much of.
- 3:58Speaker 2: But you know, just feeling guilty and I can't show
- 4:00Speaker 2: up and do those things myself anymore. As much as
- 4:02Speaker 2: I used to cooking the dinner, hanging out, just playing cards,
- 4:05Speaker 2: just chilling. I'd rather be there and get yelled at
- 4:08Speaker 2: about not spend enough time than being asked when are
- 4:10Speaker 2: you coming back, and it's like, oh my god, and yeah.
- 4:14Speaker 2: So when my mom called me and said that today,
- 4:15Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I was feeling good because today
- 4:18Speaker 2: was my first day. We're all like up. It energized
- 4:20Speaker 2: and I slept early last night. And then she called
- 4:22Speaker 2: me and I'm like, but it's still not enough. I
- 4:24Speaker 2: gotta figure out the balance of life now and work.
- 4:29Speaker 2: So personally, that's some of the things that I, you know, today,
- 4:32Speaker 2: have been dealing with. But I am more refreshed, so
- 4:34Speaker 2: at least I have the clear space of mine to
- 4:35Speaker 2: do so, so I thank God for that. But we
- 4:38Speaker 2: gonna get on into some stories. It's Laura l Rosa.
- 4:41Speaker 2: This is the latest with Laura l Rosa. And you
- 4:44Speaker 2: guys know, despite whatever is happening in my life, whether
- 4:47Speaker 2: I'm figuring out family, work, whatever, I'm always gonna be
- 4:51Speaker 2: the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and
- 4:53Speaker 2: everybody and what I don't know, baby, I will pick
- 4:55Speaker 2: up the phone, reach out and figure it out. Okay,
- 4:57Speaker 2: so let's get on into some things up. First, I
- 5:01Speaker 2: wanted to talk about Real Housewives of Atlanta, and I
- 5:04Speaker 2: just fresh off of watching the new episode of Real
- 5:07Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta. The episode is called is titled about
- 5:11Speaker 2: last Night. Now, for those of you guys who are
- 5:14Speaker 2: Real Housewives fans, you'll know that we were waiting, all
- 5:17Speaker 2: of the Real Housewives of Atlanta fans were waiting for this
- 5:20Speaker 2: episode because this is the episode that is Kenya Moore's
- 5:25Speaker 2: last episode for season sixteen, unless well for season sixteen
- 5:29Speaker 2: for sure and potentially in the franchise, unless she decides
- 5:33Speaker 2: to come back or they allow her back, like we
- 5:34Speaker 2: still don't know the answer to that. So on about
- 5:37Speaker 2: last night this episode. The main focus of this episode
- 5:41Speaker 2: news wise has been the fact that this was Kenya
- 5:43Speaker 2: Moore's last episode for the season. The reason why this
- 5:46Speaker 2: was our last episode is because Kenyamore opened the Kenyamore Hairspot.
- 5:51Speaker 2: She owned Kenya Moore hair care product line and decided
- 5:54Speaker 2: to put it in the actual hairspot in Atlanta where
- 5:57Speaker 2: you could come get your hair done. You know, all
- 5:59Speaker 2: the all the spa things, but it's all based around
- 6:02Speaker 2: her product. So during this episode and at the opening
- 6:06Speaker 2: of that spa, her and another girl from the show,
- 6:09Speaker 2: a girl named Brittany who is a newcomer to the show.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Y'all know, Kenya Moore is a OG. She's been there
- 6:14Speaker 2: since the original Real Housewives of Atlanta days, back when
- 6:17Speaker 2: Nini was there and all that good of stuff. So
- 6:19Speaker 2: of course, when you are the OG on a you know,
- 6:21Speaker 2: a show, a reality show like Real Housewives, the new
- 6:23Speaker 2: girls gotta come for you. It's kind of like a
- 6:25Speaker 2: rite of passage. It shows how they can hang or
- 6:27Speaker 2: if they can't, you know what I'm saying, And it
- 6:29Speaker 2: also can elevate their peach or lack thereof. So they're
- 6:34Speaker 2: at the hairspot opening, and Kenya and this girl, Brittany
- 6:37Speaker 2: have actually had a very weird exchange the episode prior
- 6:42Speaker 2: the episode prior that at this like special dinner thing,
- 6:45Speaker 2: and you know, they kind of get into it over
- 6:47Speaker 2: a question that was asked her on like a round
- 6:49Speaker 2: table type game, and you know, Brittany begins to talk
- 6:53Speaker 2: about when they're leaving out after they've gotten into a
- 6:55Speaker 2: Brittany mentions like a pistol and some whips that she
- 6:57Speaker 2: owned that she you know, she still be packing and
- 7:00Speaker 2: ken you like in her head like, well, who were
- 7:02Speaker 2: you talking to? Cause if me and you just got
- 7:04Speaker 2: into it and now you're talking about a little pistol
- 7:06Speaker 2: one plus one equals too. So what we're saying right now,
- 7:09Speaker 2: how a were giving it up? And of course now
- 7:12Speaker 2: these you know, the Real Housewives of Atlanta, the real Housewics
- 7:14Speaker 2: of anywhere. These girls gonna get on into it. But
- 7:16Speaker 2: at the end of the day, these are girls with brands, businesses, kids,
- 7:20Speaker 2: coin They not trying to get into all of that.
- 7:23Speaker 2: When you get to that point where you talk about
- 7:24Speaker 2: pulling out a pistol and all that, people are worried
- 7:27Speaker 2: about their actual safety. They gonna do what they need
- 7:30Speaker 2: to do to protect that. So when I saw the
- 7:32Speaker 2: the episode prior to this and I saw Kenye's reaction,
- 7:35Speaker 2: I'm like, I wonder why Kenya didn't, like, I don't know,
- 7:38Speaker 2: anything like legal protection, like involving a lawyer or something,
- 7:42Speaker 2: because that's a very like Housewives boss move bringing attorneys
- 7:46Speaker 2: and figure out like something like a ceasing desister to
- 7:49Speaker 2: try to get her to not film because she felt
- 7:51Speaker 2: threatened something like that. Mind you, if that had happened,
- 7:54Speaker 2: we'd have been known by now, because all of this
- 7:56Speaker 2: stuff was filmed last summer. So keep that little nugget
- 7:59Speaker 2: in your back pocket. Backpocket's back here, Keep that little
- 8:01Speaker 2: nugget in your back pocket. So then in this new episode,
- 8:06Speaker 2: to me, I feel like you get a better understanding
- 8:11Speaker 2: of Brittany. And not to say that what Brittany said
- 8:13Speaker 2: to Kenya about you know, having a pistore or packing
- 8:16Speaker 2: a pistol or whatever, you know what I mean, whatever
- 8:18Speaker 2: the situation was going to be about that. But what
- 8:20Speaker 2: I'm saying is that you kind of see her be like, Okay,
- 8:23Speaker 2: look I got a lot going on in life right now.
- 8:26Speaker 2: She mentioned she just lost her aunt to a stroke,
- 8:30Speaker 2: and the show happened out of nowhere, and then all
- 8:32Speaker 2: of a sudden, her aunt was on like life support,
- 8:34Speaker 2: and then you know her aunt had passed away, and
- 8:37Speaker 2: you know, she's just like, y'all, I was wrong. I
- 8:39Speaker 2: was wrong. I want to apologize, Like, I get it.
- 8:43Speaker 2: I understand why she would be upset. I understand why
- 8:45Speaker 2: she would feel threatened, even if I didn't mean it
- 8:47Speaker 2: like I'm about to pull my pistol out. I get it.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I understand. I'm a woman, blah blah blah like all
- 8:51Speaker 2: that stuff. So that's happening on one side of the
- 8:55Speaker 2: of the production site, right, But then on the other side,
- 8:58Speaker 2: Kenya is like, no oh, I felt through her and
- 9:01Speaker 2: I'm not trying to hear that. And maybe that's why
- 9:05Speaker 2: Kenya reacted the way she did in this episode, because
- 9:08Speaker 2: what she ended up doing because the network, you know,
- 9:11Speaker 2: honestly got to a point where the network did retaliate
- 9:14Speaker 2: after these last two not retaliate, the network did react
- 9:18Speaker 2: after these last two episodes, but instead of Brittany, who
- 9:21Speaker 2: mentioned having the pistol or whatever, doing anything, I mean
- 9:25Speaker 2: anything happening with her, they decided to let Kenya go.
- 9:28Speaker 2: They let Kenya go because Kenya during these spots, Salon
- 9:32Speaker 2: opening after Brittany walks out because she's annoyed that Brittany
- 9:36Speaker 2: even comes there. So Brittany walks out and Kenya starts
- 9:39Speaker 2: showing these like poster presentations. The first there's three of them.
- 9:46Speaker 2: The first one she shows, it's like every single time
- 9:48Speaker 2: she brings out one of it gets worse and worse.
- 9:49Speaker 2: First one she shows it is her talking about, you know,
- 9:53Speaker 2: who was this girl? Who was Brittany because you know
- 9:56Speaker 2: she's I guess had a lot of plastic surgery to
- 9:58Speaker 2: her face allegedly, and you know those type of things.
- 10:00Speaker 2: So there's all of the photos of the before and
- 10:03Speaker 2: after type of vibe. Then the second one it's like,
- 10:06Speaker 2: you know, I'm there must be a photos of Brittany
- 10:10Speaker 2: in like these alleged music videos, and Kenya's like, oh,
- 10:13Speaker 2: she was a video ho see, I was a video girl.
- 10:15Speaker 2: This is Kenya. I was a video girl. I got
- 10:17Speaker 2: paid for the videos. I was a video vix and
- 10:19Speaker 2: we know, like we've seen Kenya and like jay Z's
- 10:22Speaker 2: videos and stuff like that, but she basically was seeing
- 10:24Speaker 2: like girl, you was low budget, Like you can't sit
- 10:26Speaker 2: with me. I'm the queen. Period. Then the third poster,
- 10:30Speaker 2: baby Kenya brings out this poster with this girl and
- 10:33Speaker 2: these photos of this girl on there. Y'all know that
- 10:35Speaker 2: this girl is on there. She was putting a man's
- 10:38Speaker 2: private partner, her Monde. And again, all of this we
- 10:41Speaker 2: knew about because it was such a big deal because
- 10:43Speaker 2: basically the network looked at this as Kenya releasing revenge porn,
- 10:48Speaker 2: which is a crime, and they had to fire, and
- 10:50Speaker 2: not fire, they had to suspend Kenya for the rest
- 10:52Speaker 2: of the season. So after this episode she no longer
- 10:54Speaker 2: filmed whatsoever. Now after so, I've been reporting on this
- 11:00Speaker 2: a ton, a whole ton, And when it first came out,
- 11:04Speaker 2: Kenya like really played as if she I don't know,
- 11:08Speaker 2: like it was weird. It was almost like as if
- 11:10Speaker 2: she was saying she didn't do or didn't like she
- 11:12Speaker 2: was posting things like believe half of what you see
- 11:15Speaker 2: and none of what you hear something like that, like
- 11:17Speaker 2: kind of giving it up, like like maybe the story
- 11:19Speaker 2: might have been spun not to her benefit in the
- 11:22Speaker 2: wrong way that made her look, you know, crazier, and
- 11:24Speaker 2: made the situation look crazier than it was. After watching this,
- 11:27Speaker 2: there's nowhey around what she chose to do. Like even
- 11:30Speaker 2: in the episode Porsche walks out, a lot of the
- 11:31Speaker 2: girls walk out because they're like, yo, bro, you took
- 11:34Speaker 2: it too far. And she's doing it at the spot opening.
- 11:36Speaker 2: It's like you in here talking about you both this
- 11:38Speaker 2: for your daughter, this is something for you to pass
- 11:40Speaker 2: down to your daughter, and blah blah blah, and then
- 11:42Speaker 2: you do this here and she's saying that, like, you know,
- 11:44Speaker 2: she felt right, and she felt like somebody was coming
- 11:46Speaker 2: for her, trying to take food out of her daughter's mouth.
- 11:48Speaker 2: It was a bit much for me. I'm not even
- 11:50Speaker 2: gonna lie to y'all, it was a bit much for me.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Andy Cohen has come out and reacted to it, and
- 11:54Speaker 2: Kenya was not happy about that. Kenya had a very
- 11:58Speaker 2: lengthy message from Andy Cohen in response to what he
- 12:02Speaker 2: had to say and the fact that there is a hole.
- 12:04Speaker 2: There's a whole Justice for Kenya movement happening right now
- 12:07Speaker 2: from the Real Housewives of Atlanta fans. They feel like
- 12:09Speaker 2: Kenya was unjustly suspended, and there's other people who feel like,
- 12:13Speaker 2: you know, even if she was gonna be suspended, there
- 12:15Speaker 2: should have been more action taken against Brittany because this
- 12:18Speaker 2: was a reaction to something. But we're gonna talk about
- 12:21Speaker 2: that nugget. We're gonna talk about Indy Cowen's response to
- 12:23Speaker 2: whether that was right or wrong on the Breakfast Club.
- 12:25Speaker 2: But back to what we're talking about here, I think
- 12:27Speaker 2: it was too much. I do. I get it. I
- 12:29Speaker 2: get the antics of the show. I understand, you know
- 12:32Speaker 2: how the antics rub up your character, rub up your
- 12:35Speaker 2: you know, your positioning on the show, and you know,
- 12:37Speaker 2: you got the peach and you're the O G girl,
- 12:39Speaker 2: whether you don't have the peach or not, or like
- 12:41Speaker 2: you know, I understand all of that stuff. But I
- 12:43Speaker 2: just think at this point, Kenya has been doing this
- 12:46Speaker 2: for a really long time. I think that one of
- 12:49Speaker 2: the things that Kenya should know boy now is that
- 12:52Speaker 2: you gotta protect the brand by any means. And I
- 12:56Speaker 2: think she thought she was protecting the brand by being
- 12:58Speaker 2: the person that like came on on top and like
- 13:00Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like I'm gonna go low
- 13:02Speaker 2: because you went low, I'm gonna go lower. But it
- 13:04Speaker 2: didn't make her look good. Like I was watching it,
- 13:06Speaker 2: and I'm like, it's not even given, like clap back,
- 13:10Speaker 2: Oh you did that, Kenya, it's given, girl, you look
- 13:12Speaker 2: dumb as hell. Kenya let that girl trick her out
- 13:15Speaker 2: her spot. Hate that for Kenya, but what's done is done.
- 13:19Speaker 2: I do think that there should have been something and
- 13:21Speaker 2: I don't know if there was a conversations behind the
- 13:23Speaker 2: scenes or what, but like, I do think it's weird
- 13:24Speaker 2: that somebody can mention they got a pistol after you
- 13:26Speaker 2: just got done arguing with them and like just carry
- 13:28Speaker 2: on about their business. That is kind of crazy. One
- 13:30Speaker 2: hundred percent. That is crazy, y'all. Let me know how
- 13:33Speaker 2: y'all feel. If y'all have been following this situation with
- 13:36Speaker 2: Kenya Moore and Brittany from the Real Housewives of Atlanta,
- 13:39Speaker 2: do you feel like Kenya should have been suspended and
- 13:41Speaker 2: definitely for the rest of the season. They haven't said
- 13:45Speaker 2: that she can't come back, but there has been no
- 13:47Speaker 2: announcement about her coming back, y'all. I mean, I know
- 13:50Speaker 2: I want her back, but do y'all think she's gonna
- 13:53Speaker 2: actually want to come back? Because there's also the conversation
- 13:56Speaker 2: now spiraling that you know that Candy has started and
- 13:59Speaker 2: about the network just not protecting their stars Normally, my
- 14:03Speaker 2: girl can tour on tour on Twirl and you know
- 14:05Speaker 2: what I mean, Clocket, But that was a really big
- 14:08Speaker 2: misstep on her part. It just doesn't look good. It
- 14:10Speaker 2: doesn't re well off of the show. I wonder how
- 14:13Speaker 2: it has affected her off of the show with like
- 14:15Speaker 2: brand deals and endorsements and things of that nature. Yeah,
- 14:18Speaker 2: so y'all let me know what y'all think. All right,
- 14:24Speaker 2: So second story, we now are gonna go to Lizzo.
- 14:28Speaker 2: So Lizzo has been, you know, moving around. She's been
- 14:31Speaker 2: sitting down with different people having conversations about her recent
- 14:35Speaker 2: weight loss. She lost a ton of weight. If y'all
- 14:37Speaker 2: have not seen Lizzo in recent I would say like
- 14:41Speaker 2: recent weeks. It's been like a couple months now, but
- 14:43Speaker 2: in recent weeks, please go take a look at Lizzo.
- 14:46Speaker 2: She looks amazing. But one of the biggest things that
- 14:48Speaker 2: she's been having conversations about, uh, you know, when it
- 14:52Speaker 2: comes to like change and things and how they've affected
- 14:54Speaker 2: her life differently, the changes is her mental and how
- 14:59Speaker 2: she dealt with her mental health after wanting to commit
- 15:01Speaker 2: suicide and things just being in a very dark place
- 15:03Speaker 2: for her. So she was on the J. S. Shetty podcast.
- 15:07Speaker 2: I love this podcast, by the way, I feel like
- 15:08Speaker 2: they sit and they have really in depth conversations. And
- 15:11Speaker 2: I watched the conversation in Fuol. I do think that
- 15:13Speaker 2: there are parts of it where I was like, okay,
- 15:16Speaker 2: little girl. And earlier when I watched it and I
- 15:19Speaker 2: used the word insufferable, I was like a little bit
- 15:21Speaker 2: of this was like all right, girl. But I think
- 15:24Speaker 2: it's because maybe I'm hearing her tell the same stories
- 15:27Speaker 2: multiple times over and over and over. I don't know,
- 15:29Speaker 2: but what I could appreciate, let's talk about that. What
- 15:31Speaker 2: I could appreciate from this conversation was the honesty, and
- 15:35Speaker 2: she got really honest about Okay. So she retold the
- 15:37Speaker 2: story about when she was out in La at the concert.
- 15:40Speaker 2: And this was right after all that lawsuit stuff had
- 15:43Speaker 2: draws when you know, her employees claimed that she was
- 15:45Speaker 2: like a horrible boss and that she'd allegedly been calling
- 15:48Speaker 2: people fat and just been really evil and nasty toward
- 15:51Speaker 2: the people that were working with her. And I remember
- 15:54Speaker 2: when that lawsuit dropped, she had spoke. I think she
- 15:57Speaker 2: released like one statement, but she didn't really say much
- 16:00Speaker 2: and you didn't really see her like nothing like at all.
- 16:04Speaker 2: And Lizo was so hot, like Lizo was everywhere with
- 16:07Speaker 2: that damn flute in neswork everywhere, big brands all over her,
- 16:12Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, performing all the time,
- 16:15Speaker 2: and it was like everything kind of just like simmered
- 16:17Speaker 2: down and she kind of went away. And then it
- 16:19Speaker 2: got to a point where she started posting things that
- 16:21Speaker 2: were very dark on Instagram, like and it happened a
- 16:24Speaker 2: couple of times where she would post things and it
- 16:25Speaker 2: would make people be like yo, she alright, like she
- 16:28Speaker 2: talking about she wontn't be here no more type vibes,
- 16:30Speaker 2: like what's going on? And you just knew she wasn't okay.
- 16:34Speaker 2: She talked about during that time, just she had already scheduled,
- 16:38Speaker 2: because that's just how business works. When you're in music.
- 16:42Speaker 2: There's a time when you're really really really really on
- 16:44Speaker 2: and you're going, you're going, you're performing, the music is
- 16:47Speaker 2: out your press, you're pressed, and then there's a time
- 16:48Speaker 2: where you got to make the music to then make
- 16:51Speaker 2: the money to go go go to perform, to do
- 16:53Speaker 2: the press to you know what I mean. So she
- 16:55Speaker 2: was in her phase of like I'm taking a step back,
- 16:58Speaker 2: I'm going I'm secluding myself. We're making the music, and
- 17:01Speaker 2: then all of the lawsuit, allegation things dropped, so she
- 17:05Speaker 2: had already decided to kind of go, you know, out
- 17:07Speaker 2: of the country a little mia all those things. But
- 17:11Speaker 2: I think that it made it look crazier. Even though,
- 17:14Speaker 2: to be honest with you, if I'm being real honest,
- 17:16Speaker 2: and I've been doing this for a while, when allegations
- 17:19Speaker 2: and stuff come out against people you kind of know,
- 17:21Speaker 2: and you get the sense when people are like not
- 17:24Speaker 2: going to be able to recover from it. Fully, I
- 17:26Speaker 2: didn't think that Lizzo was completely done. I did think
- 17:29Speaker 2: that it was going to be difficult for her to
- 17:31Speaker 2: come back out of it because she was going to
- 17:34Speaker 2: have to address it. And again, Lizzo was the fun, bubbly,
- 17:38Speaker 2: flute twerking front. I never realized that. At no point
- 17:44Speaker 2: in Lizzo's career am I ever seeing her sit down
- 17:46Speaker 2: and do hard interviews, not in like a controversial the
- 17:50Speaker 2: world doesn't like you, so now you guys some of
- 17:52Speaker 2: this podcast and bury your soul, you know what I mean,
- 17:55Speaker 2: and feed the media different things so that you can
- 17:57Speaker 2: rebut headlines. Never that. I just didn't know how she
- 18:00Speaker 2: would come up on the other side of that because
- 18:02Speaker 2: of the way that her brand had been set up,
- 18:04Speaker 2: and when she was on Jay Shutty, she said the
- 18:07Speaker 2: reason why she had gotten in such that dark space
- 18:10Speaker 2: was because the brand that I'm telling you all about
- 18:13Speaker 2: the way that I just explained how I looked at her,
- 18:15Speaker 2: where everything was basically so curated, so perfect, so jolly,
- 18:18Speaker 2: so fun, so music. It was a caricature. And when
- 18:23Speaker 2: that lawsuit happened and she didn't have the friends that
- 18:27Speaker 2: she thought she had around her, and a lot of
- 18:29Speaker 2: people she loved around her were not good people and
- 18:32Speaker 2: things were happening, she couldn't live in that character anymore
- 18:35Speaker 2: because now it doesn't work because now you have all
- 18:37Speaker 2: these claims true or not, their allegations, but now they're
- 18:40Speaker 2: out there and people want answers. People want to know, like, yo,
- 18:43Speaker 2: what's going on? It this really happened. Please go listen
- 18:46Speaker 2: to Lizzle on J Shetty podcast. It was a really
- 18:47Speaker 2: good conversation. She says she didn't know what to do
- 18:49Speaker 2: at that point because she could not be the character anymore.
- 18:52Speaker 2: So it forced her to really take the time to
- 18:55Speaker 2: go away and to figure out who the hell she was,
- 18:59Speaker 2: and that is my prayer every single day. I did
- 19:01Speaker 2: an interview with Carlos King. Make sure you guys gonna
- 19:04Speaker 2: check out that interview with me and Carlos King. It
- 19:06Speaker 2: is now live on his YouTube channel. But I said
- 19:09Speaker 2: that in my interview, and that's I felt litzough when
- 19:12Speaker 2: she said this, Like I would. I every day I
- 19:14Speaker 2: pray to God, like, yo, just keep me doing the work,
- 19:16Speaker 2: like I don't wanna get caught up in the the
- 19:19Speaker 2: it to Lauren la Rosa, like it's it's cause it's
- 19:22Speaker 2: not that for me. For me, it's like, Yo, this
- 19:23Speaker 2: is work. I take it serious. This is how I
- 19:25Speaker 2: feed myself, this is how I'm able to help my family.
- 19:28Speaker 2: It's cool. I love storytelling. It's a passion, you know
- 19:31Speaker 2: what I mean, It's a God given gift and a
- 19:33Speaker 2: passion to be able to do what I'm doing and
- 19:35Speaker 2: tell stories. But I don't ever want to do it
- 19:39Speaker 2: through a character like I wanna just really be out here,
- 19:42Speaker 2: I mean a little guarded a bit like I'm learning
- 19:44Speaker 2: how to you know what I mean, Like keep a
- 19:46Speaker 2: couple of things to myself, but give y'all me for real,
- 19:49Speaker 2: and and and intertwine to work and still be able
- 19:52Speaker 2: to like keep going off of that, because when you
- 19:54Speaker 2: lose the character, like you lose everything. I don't want that,
- 19:57Speaker 2: and that's what happened with Lizzo, And Lizzo says that
- 20:01Speaker 2: like during that time, because it was so dark for her,
- 20:03Speaker 2: she was dark and other people saw that. There's no
- 20:08Speaker 2: way that other people didn't see that. She talked about
- 20:10Speaker 2: social media and how social media like, really, you know
- 20:13Speaker 2: what I mean, you start to have these thoughts of
- 20:15Speaker 2: yourself based on what other people are saying that social media,
- 20:18Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The stuff is that's a
- 20:20Speaker 2: whole different beasts of its own. And like she says,
- 20:22Speaker 2: there were days where she was like, girl, just kill yourself.
- 20:25Speaker 2: Won't nobody care? They hate you right now anyway, So
- 20:28Speaker 2: she had to really build herself back up away from
- 20:32Speaker 2: Lizzo with the flute in the music. It's a really
- 20:34Speaker 2: great conversation. Please go take a watch. It's on the
- 20:37Speaker 2: j Shaddy podcast. Yeah, let me know what resonates with
- 20:40Speaker 2: you guys from that. I enjoyed the conversation and I
- 20:43Speaker 2: hope you guys have enjoyed this conversation. I'm Laura le
- 20:46Speaker 2: Rosa Again. At the end of the day, there's always
- 20:49Speaker 2: a lot to talk about. So every time y'all join
- 20:51Speaker 2: me here right on here, right here, right here, every
- 20:56Speaker 2: single time, I'm always ferialed. I always appreciate you, guys,
- 21:00Speaker 2: your homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.
- 21:03Speaker 2: And I'll see you in my next episode. Mm hm