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  laced up let's go it's time for better with the
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  boys what is going on my head is not straight
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  there it is welcome back to banter with the boys
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  gridiron Gridiron updates. You already know what
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  it is. Yep. Yep. Just got a little throat thing
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  going on. Conference Championship Preview. Yeah,
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  that's what everybody's calling it. Conference
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  Championship Preview and Picks. Of course, I
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  am joined by our co -host, Roberto. What's up
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  there, coach? What is up, my guy? I'm ready.
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  Jesus Christ. Anyway, I'm smelty. Yep. Justin
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  is here. I appreciate you. What's happening?
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  I'm just kidding. Anyway, Jake is also here.
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  Yeah, I am. What's going on? Sorry. Do you want
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  to sit further away from me? What are you going
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  to do to me? This double espresso is just kicking
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  in. Yeah, we're right on. It's like God in the
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  middle of Kaluar or something. Jake's like, can
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  I sit over there next week? Can you please? Anyway,
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  yes. Kev's here also behind the camera getting
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  everything done. He's here. Catching flies. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Let's see. Before we go into our... We
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  only have two games to preview, obviously, because
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  it's Championship Week. Championship. Before
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  we do that, Kev, if you want to bring up... The
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  old standings for our banter with the boys. As
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  you can see, I'm in first place. Hold on. I can't
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  see it either, so you know what I'm going to
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  do. You guys can see it just fine if you're on
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  the YouTubes. Put your two fingers in and just
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  give it all. I'm about to pull it up right here.
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  Just 75 minutes here. Just wait a minute here.
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  The high -quality production value. No, I got
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  it right here. I can see it. Oh, wait. I went
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  too far. I went too far. Yep, scrolled too fast.
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  All right. Anyway. We kind of have a tie right
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  now for first place after two weeks of playoffs
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  because your boy Smelty here did not do standings
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  through the season. He kind of dropped off like
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  week 10. So we don't have all the standings.
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  But for the playoffs, we got a – Just the playoffs.
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  Playoffs. Yeah, just the playoffs. We got a three
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  -way tie for first between Roberto, seven and
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  three. Good job. He went 4 -0 this week, Rob.
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  That's what I do. Wow. Warming up, boys. Yep,
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  yep. Just warming up. Yeah, anyway. Dom, also
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  at 7 -3, tied with Roberto. Good job, Dom. Excellent,
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  Mr. Consistency. And then we got Coach Dan coming
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  in at 7 -3 as well. Don't coach Dan. Way to represent
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  the table, Rob. Right behind them at 6 -4 is
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  literally everybody else. Smelty, Jake, Justin,
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  and Ben, all at 6 -4. There's only two games
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  this week, but they're going to matter for our
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  picks. Frickin' Josh Allen. Yeah, frickin' Josh
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  Allen. Bottom dwellers. Yeah, well, my idiotic
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  self took the frickin' 49ers this week. That
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  was a close game. Good one. Good take, buddy.
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  Good job. Anyway, sorry. I don't know what's
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  going on. It's unhinged. It's unhinged. Okay.
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  So there's that for you YouTube people. I put
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  that up there. Well, I gandied to Kev and Kev
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  put it up there. He took it away. He took it
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  away. But there it is. It's already been up.
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  If they didn't see it, then they don't get to
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  see it now. Okay. Go back and pause it. That's
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  the best way. All right. Should we talk about
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  this now? Which game? AFC Championship. The AFC
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  Championship. The first game. The AFC Championship.
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  The first game. American Football Conference.
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  Yes. Yes. Very good. The American Football Conference.
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  What are we talking about? Oh, yeah. That's what
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  it's actually called, huh? They should change
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  it to the Al Davis Football Conference. They
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  should. The Al Davis. Why? Because he was instrumental
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  in merging the AFL and the NFL. In 1966. So it
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  would be the... ADFC? Yeah. Then for the first
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  three years, it was the AFL and the NFL World
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  Championship. Yeah, isn't that when the Vikes
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  got a Super Bowl? No, not even then. National
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  Championship? No. That was before then. But also
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  the Packers were dominating then, too. That's
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  because there are like three teams. Yeah, true.
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  All right, all right, all right. All right, this
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  football game right here. Patriots taking on
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  the Broncos. Broncos have only lost one game
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  at home all season. The Patriots are undefeated
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  on the road. Man, this is the best matchup we
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  could ask for. Again, we do wish that Bo Nix
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  was healthy, but he's not. So we've got to move
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  on from that situation. Jared Stidham is going
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  to come in. Hopefully he can do just enough in
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  this situation to keep the Broncos afloat. That
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  defense is going to be outstanding, I expect,
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  for the Broncos. And like I was stating in an
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  earlier episode this evening, that Broncos defense
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  was coming down and hitting hard this weekend.
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  I mean, hard. Shut up. You guys are all absolutely
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  inappropriate. Hard. Did you hear me? I had to
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  say it again. Yeah, no, but they did. They came
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  down and absolutely hit hard for you guys. But
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  every hit felt like the ball could pop out. Every
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  single hit it felt like the ball could pop out.
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  So I'm kind of expecting that again this weekend.
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  I mean, it kind of did to Josh Allen. It almost
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  did. Right. But again, old Joshy boy hanging
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  on the ball way out here. Like a loaf of bread.
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  Freaking out. Not even. You hold a loaf of bread
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  out here like this, too? I have my kids carry
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  it. No. Dude, that's risk. Well, there you go.
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  This is on the way. I have my own James Cook.
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  Anyway, should we do everybody else's picks first
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  before ours? Yeah, we're going to do that. So
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  you can definitely piggyback off there. Right,
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  of course, of course. Otherwise, right out of
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  this, we're going to go right to Jake. Yeah,
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  tell me so I can go opposite of Dan and Mr. Consistency.
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  Right, so Dan is wanting a rematch of a recent
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  Super Bowl, so he's going to go with the Patriots.
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  beating the Broncos. What the heck here? An app
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  just popped up and I opened it. Jesus Christ.
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  Sure. Dom, also going with the Patriots. And
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  Ben, also going with the Patriots. Broncos getting
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  no love with Bo Nix out right now. Are they going
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  to get love from you, Jake? Well, we know they're
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  going to get love from Rob because Rob has to
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  try and create some separation. Keep them separated.
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  Yeah. I don't know what we're going to see or
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  get out of Jared Stidham, but Sean Payton seems
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  to know what he's got. Otherwise, he wouldn't
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  be there as the backup. So Broncos defense will
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  continue to, that front four and that front seven
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  will continue to excel at stopping the run, putting
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  pressure on Drake May. keeping contained or hopefully
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  they'll be able to keep him contained. The Texans
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  did a really good job of not allowing May to
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  really scramble much. So one of those things
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  that Denver is going to be strong with. I'm going
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  to see or expect Denver to probably run a lot
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  or at least create the guys that they're going
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  to be running a lot or the disguise that they're
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  going to run a lot. And New England, we've criticized
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  them for having a weak schedule. Oh, their record
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  is like a result of their schedule. In the playoffs,
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  we've seen them beat the best teams that there
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  are right now because that's all that's left.
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  And they just find ways to score points. Against
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  the Texans, it... The Texans' defense was keeping
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  it close, keeping it close, and then they had
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  one big play with the Keyshawn Booty touchdown
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  snag, which was an amazing play by Booty, if
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  you haven't seen it. J .K. Dobbins may be back.
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  That's an interesting wild card. Maybe. His practice
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  when it was open. I feel like that's just a news
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  line thing that someone wrote. Sorry, I'm ruining
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  your take. So is Sam Donald's oblique. Is he
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  the game changer? No. He helps. Everybody makes
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  it feel and sound like with the Bo Nix injury,
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  it's going to be New England to run away with,
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  and I kind of have an inkling that New England's
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  going to win. But I'm not going to pick New England.
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  I'm going to pick the Broncos. I'm going to pick
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  the Broncos to win in a real close nail -biter.
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  It's going to be like 20 -17 or something stupid
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  close like that. 16 -13? Yeah. Well, I'm going
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  to write off your coattails because I'm also
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  going Broncos. I think that defense is going
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  to come out early. This Patriot team likes to
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  put points up early in the game and kind of just
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  run with it from there. I think the Broncos'
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  defense is going to come out and shock them early
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  and hopefully put a little doubt in their minds,
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  and the Patriots are just going to get in their
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  heads. I think you're right. It's going to be
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  a really close battle. But I think it's just
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  going to be that Broncos' defense. It's going
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  to be a little too much for Drake May. Patriots
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  only favored by 5 .5. Just reading it off the
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  ticker up there. But they're interesting. They're
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  favored by 5 .5 at Denver. Correct. It doesn't
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  change anything for me. Yeah. I would like to
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  see J .K. Dobbins play. That would be an interesting
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  little wrinkle. But is he a game changer like
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  you were? I mean, for me, it all comes down to
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  Jason Siddham. I mean, who he got. I don't know
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  if you guys don't know who he is. I mean, I kind
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  of just had to look him up. I didn't know who
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  he was. I mean, I kind of knew because he's been
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  in the league for a couple years. But he was
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  originally committed to Texas Tech, switched
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  to Baylor, played a year there because the starter
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  got hurt. Then he actually transferred to Auburn,
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  led them to. some pretty good success, MVP, Music
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  City Bowl, I guess, if that matters. Then he
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  got drafted by the Patriots, which is really
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  interesting, in the fourth round. And then he
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  went over to Vegas after two years in there,
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  and then he's been at Denver since 23, so he's
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  been there a couple years. So on that aspect,
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  he knows Sean Payton's offense, so I don't think
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  that's something new. Now it's whether the Broncos'
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  defense can affect May and have him turn over.
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  over the ball to give the Broncos maybe a shorter
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  field, some quicker opportunities. Temperature
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  in Denver looks like it's going to be okay. So
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  the weather shouldn't be a huge factor. But I
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  don't know if I can trust enough of Jason Stidham.
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  Jared. Is it Jared? Jared. Double R, double T.
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  I had it written down here. Why did I write Jason?
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  I did write Jason down, too. Definitely can't
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  trust Jason. No. No. Unless it's Friday the 13th,
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  but it's not. I mean, what an opportunity, though,
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  to maybe revitalize your career at 29 years old.
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  Like, you play well here. God forbid you go and
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  win a Super Bowl. You're going to big dick Nick
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  this thing and end up signing a freaking contract
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  somewhere else. Make money. Anyway, sorry. But
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  I just don't see him getting the opportunity.
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  I think the Patriots are going to win this. All
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  right, Patriots. For Roberto. I really wanted
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  to pick the Broncos. Yeah, but you didn't. So
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  you didn't really want it then. I'm just kidding.
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  All right, I don't know where that came from.
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  Justin. Didn't really want it. For me on this
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  one, there's a lot here in this game. It's a
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  really interesting game. Patriots struggle against
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  backup quarterbacks. They just, they do. I'm
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  agreeing with what Jake said around Sean Payton
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  knows what he has here, and I think this game
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  is going to be a lot closer than probably Broncos
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  country thinks it's going to be. So with that
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  being said, I'm going to pick New England to
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  break their hearts. They're number two in points.
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  They have a high -powered offense. You can only
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  play who's in front of you, and I think they
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  get... discredited for that but what they've
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  done this year is great offense defense they've
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  got it together they're healthy and if there's
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  one thing that new england has done for decades,
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  and you see the influence of Belichick with Vrabel
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  is they take away your best option. They've done
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  that all year. And I think whatever the best
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  option is that they deem for this game, they're
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  going to do, and I think that's really going
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  to limit what Sean Payton and company can do.
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  So I think it's going to be the Patriots that
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  are going to end up winning this game. I think
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  it's going to be closer than people think. Don't
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  you change your answer. I'm not going to. Five
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  and a half, which naturally means Vegas is going
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  to make this. It's a five -point game, so Patriots
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  by five. Patriots by five. Okay. Don't cover.
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  Yeah, no, right, right, right, right. Okay. You're
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  thinking about changing your pick now. Don't
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  do it. Don't do it. It's already written. It's
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  in stone. Let me know if this influences you
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  at all. But we got some breaking news while we
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  were in here. Yes, breaking news. Breaking? What?
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  While we were here? Yep. Mike McDaniels is now
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  the new offensive coordinator for the Chargers.
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  So I don't know if that does anything to change
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  your pick. If you want to pick the Chargers,
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  I don't know. OC for the Chargers. Mike McDaniels
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  is the OC for the Chargers. That actually has
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  me excited. That's a good role for him. I don't
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  know if that changes your pick for this game
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  if you want to pick the Chargers. or not, but...
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  What world do you think I'm living in? I mean,
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  I know I've been out of it the whole night, but
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  now... Got him! Kevin, who do you got? Patriots.
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  Patriots for Kev. You don't want to come over
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  to Bronco country? Nope. Yeah, look, he listens.
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  Look at you. Maybe you should be over here. All
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  right, we should realize that no one can hear
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  what Kevin's saying. Well, oh, yeah, so, ah,
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  damn, too late, because I don't even, I forgot
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  already. He said the Patriots because the Broncos
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  have a backup quarterback. He does not have faith
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  in Stidham. He listened to the right side of
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  the table. All right. I'm sorry. I was trying
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  to come up with something fast. I didn't. That's
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  all I had. You had upper lip. That's what you
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  had. Shut up. Shut up. All right. Our second
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  game. I almost said episode. Jesus is coming
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  unraveled here. The number five Rams traveling
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  to the number one Seattle Seahawks. Seachickens
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  coming off a shellacking of the old Niners. Oh,
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  yeah, let's do them first. You know what I mean?
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  Warm it up, Chris. Well, we're going to get copyright
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  because I'm just freestyling. Ben says, how would
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  we get copyright? Because the YouTube algorithm
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  thing is the real deal. Right on. All right,
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  sorry. I should have known better. Come on, meow.
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  I know. Come on right now. Ben going with the
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  Rams. He says, go Stafford. Dom going with the
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  Seachickens. Coach Dan. Looking for that Super
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  Bowl rematch. He's going with the Rams. Oh, he's
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  going with that Super Bowl rematch. Right, right.
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  Right. Quite right. Oh, let's start with Justin.
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  Yes. Justin. I'm also picking the Rams. Also
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  going with the Rams. I'm also picking the Rams.
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  This was probably the hardest decision to make
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  out of the two matchups. This is going to be
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  extremely close. Could go either way. Just like
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  their first two games. Extremely close. But I
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  firmly believe the Rams are battle tested after
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  this last week. I think they're going to come
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  in with a bit. And I almost think Seattle might
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  come in a little overconfident. I don't think
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  that they'll take the Rams lightly. I think it'll
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  be a really close, heavy -hitting game. But I'm
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  going to pick the Rams. I look at what their
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  offense has been all year. I look at what they
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  can do if the weather is controllable. Obviously,
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  it's going to be a bit different than in Chicago.
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  So I'm going to... I'm going to pick the Rams.
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  Matt Stafford to go to his second Super Bowl,
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  win MVP along the way. I feel really good about
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  their chances. I feel better about their offense
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  than I do about Seattle's offense, and that's
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  the biggest difference for me, especially after
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  the injury that took place last week, and I think
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  that changes a little bit for him. Do you feel
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  Sam Darnold has to do more than just enough like
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  he has? Kind of end of the season of the playoffs
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  in this game. I think he has to capitalize when
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  his defense gives him a gift of a turnover. And
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  I think that's going to be the difference in
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  this game. You have a great defense against another
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  really, really good, if not great, defense. So
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  it's going to be interesting. If there are forced
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  turnovers, what does the offense do with that
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  turnover? And I'm going to trust Matt Stafford
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  and what he has around him more than I'm going
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  to trust what Sam Darnold has in this moment.
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  I think it's going to be interesting. And Sam
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  DeFost -Charbonnet. Yeah, I think that's going
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  to be a big deal. Fair enough. I'll just rip
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  the Band -Aid off for myself here. I'm also leaning
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  Rams. I think both defenses are going to play
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  outstanding, to be honest, and are fairly comparable,
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  actually. I mean, the Rams truly have a very
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  solid – their front is outstanding, and that's
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  what I think the difference is, is their front
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  against Seattle's O -line I think is going to
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  – make problems for sam donald and that's what
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  sparked my question for you is if sam needed
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  to do more than just enough and i think he's
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  not going to have a ton of time to get things
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  done uh especially early on in the game we're
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  at everybody's high energy so it's oh god It's
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  a tough one. I think I've got to go Rams. I kind
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  of agree with what you said about Matt Stafford,
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  too, with the experience. Obviously, he's been
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  in this situation before. He's played outstanding
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  this whole season. He's trying to close this
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  thing out one more time at least. If Kyron Williams
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  can give the Rams what he's given them, if he
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  can give them at least three yards of carry,
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  I think the Rams can win this game. Three. Three.
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  That's it. That's all I'm looking for. Clouded
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  dust, baby. Just three. You don't get many first
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  downs with three yards to carry. But, hey, you
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  just got to average that. I think the biggest
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  matchup in this game, and we'll tell the difference,
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  is the Rams' number one passing offense against
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  Seattle's number 10 passing defense. I think
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  whichever one wins there is going to – I think
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  that's going to be the key to the game. Roberto.
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  I mean, that's literally where I was going with
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  this. The matchup on the outside with Puka and
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  Adams versus the big corners of Seattle. And
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  Seattle, they don't typically have to bring a
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  ton of pressure because their front four can
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  really get after them. But in the moments and
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  opportunities they do, that's kind of where the
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  Rams can really expose Seattle is with the big
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  slants and the quick plays with the big bodies.
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  And Parkinson's playing out of his mind. from
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  Seattle for a lot of people to know. He's been
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  in the league for six years, I think, ish. And
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  that's what I think the difference maker is going
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  to be is the big bodies of them. Seattle does
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  going to miss Charbonnet on that running game,
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  setting up that passing, and he's pretty good
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  in also catching the ball out of the backfield
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  in their screen game. Whether the Rams can bracket
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  JSN and lock him down, I don't know if Seattle's
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  second receiver is going to be enough in this
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  game. Both games they played very competitively.
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  Went overtime in week 16, I believe. Yep. And
• 20:05
  the Rams were up big early on that game, and
• 20:07
  Seattle kind of came back on them, if you guys
• 20:09
  remember. And Seattle shouldn't have won that
• 20:11
  game. So I think the Rams are getting a little
• 20:14
  payback from that game, and they're actually
• 20:16
  going to win by double digits. Double digits.
• 20:19
  Whoa, Rams win by double digits. Holy crap. I
• 20:22
  remember that game very well. Mm -hmm. I have
• 20:25
  numbers for you. Oh. Tell me more. So everyone's
• 20:30
  concerned about the Charbonnet injury. And I
• 20:33
  think there's some validity to that. In week
• 20:36
  16, though, Charbonnet only carried the ball
• 20:38
  nine times for 32 yards. I don't think Seattle
• 20:41
  is going to miss Charbonnet. What week was that?
• 20:45
  That was week 16. Oh, the one they were down
• 20:47
  by a ton and they didn't run the ball anymore?
• 20:49
  Well, and then Kenneth Walker had 100 yards on
• 20:52
  11 carries. He had a big one. Yeah. Yeah. So
• 20:55
  you take that one big one, which was 55. and
• 20:58
  you have 45 on 10. So that's 4 .5. Yeah, so those
• 21:05
  are, look at you. Look at you. Gold stars. I
• 21:09
  did it. So I think Seattle is going to, or not
• 21:14
  Seattle, I think the Rams are going to continue
• 21:16
  to struggle with stopping Kenneth Walker. Sam
• 21:22
  Darnold is going to have to do something because
• 21:25
  I think L .A. is still going to force turnovers.
• 21:28
  It's not something that Seattle excels at with
• 21:31
  forcing turnovers. And Stafford's played pretty
• 21:35
  clean most of the year. So I don't anticipate
• 21:38
  that he's going to turn the ball over. And we
• 21:41
  learned and we watched Sam Darnold had a terrible
• 21:44
  first half in that Week 16 game. And then that
• 21:46
  team just rallied around him. They got some special
• 21:50
  teams help. And special teams was great again
• 21:54
  this past weekend. Rams struggled with special
• 21:59
  teams. I'm going to, I guess, be the only person
• 22:01
  taking the Seahawks. Okay. That's here anyway.
• 22:05
  Only person that's here taking the Seahawks.
• 22:07
  But I feel you. Don't take away his thunder.
• 22:10
  I know. I know. I know. Sorry. I'm sorry. Do
• 22:13
  you want to continue? I'm sorry. Sea Chickens.
• 22:15
  Sea Chickens. Give me Sea Chickens. The old Sea
• 22:19
  Chickens. Great pick there. Great pick. And you
• 22:22
  picked the Broncos, too, so you're predicting
• 22:24
  Broncos, Seahawks. That's another Super Bowl
• 22:28
  rematch from Peyton's first, you know, first
• 22:30
  when he got smacked around. Yeah. Dude, that
• 22:32
  was so funny. I didn't even watch the rest of
• 22:35
  that game. He had noodle arm that game, didn't
• 22:36
  he? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, my Super Bowl at
• 22:42
  Broncos Rams would be quite interesting, actually.
• 22:44
  It's not as flashy because if it's Stidham, you
• 22:48
  know, you're like, eh. But if he can do enough
• 22:50
  this game, maybe. They'll just tape up Bo's ankle
• 22:53
  by then. Get in. Just get in there. Let's go.
• 22:55
  Yeah, probably. You just stand in the pocket.
• 22:57
  Just hand it off to Dobbins. Right, right. Screens.
• 23:02
  Well, with that, gentlemen, we're down to a couple
• 23:05
  of the last games of the season already here
• 23:08
  on Gridiron Updates. Justin, I appreciate you
• 23:11
  being here. Good chunk of the season, actually.
• 23:13
  So it's been amazing to have you on. Jake. You
• 23:17
  as well, obviously, have been here almost all
• 23:19
  season at this point. Yeah. Half -ish, maybe?
• 23:23
  I'm kind of over it, but yeah. There was a moment.
• 23:28
  Smeltsy's counting down the days. He's like,
• 23:29
  ah, I can't wait to get rid of this guy. Only
• 23:31
  two more episodes. There was that one -in -five
• 23:34
  period of the season where the Ravens, he kind
• 23:37
  of disappeared off the map for a minute. Yeah,
• 23:39
  we were like, hey, you want to be on the show?
• 23:41
  Crickets. I'll let you know on Sunday night.
• 23:47
  No, they were just like, we don't want to talk
• 23:48
  to fans of trash teams. I was like, oh, that's
• 23:52
  harsh. I mean, the whole show is based on the
• 23:54
  bikes. That's the shitty part. Kev, I mean, Roberto.
• 23:59
  Wow. Thanks, coach. No problem. Ready to go ice
• 24:02
  fishing? Oh, my God. Congrats on your new job.
• 24:06
  Kev. Oh, what? Who got a new job? He's the head
• 24:10
  coach. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, sorry.
• 24:13
  Of the Titans. Duh. How did I forget? So I'll
• 24:15
  be at Tootsie's tomorrow on Broadway. Come down.
• 24:18
  Meet and greet. All right. Free meet and greet.
• 24:21
  Come pick his brain. Kev. Of course, thanks for
• 24:24
  being here, as always, in the old studio. Nordic.
• 24:28
  No, I knew it. I knew it. I just wanted to see
• 24:31
  if you were going to go on it. Yeah, yeah. Anyway,
• 24:33
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