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What NHL Legends Taught Us About Hockey, Leadership & Life | Bare Knuckle Nation Ep. 4 · Bare Knuckle Nation Podcast

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  >> Okay.
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  >> My dad did.
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  >> Cam Jansen, Jamie Rivers, Reed Low, Tony
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  Twist, Jim Subie Campbell. Let's go.
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  Episode five. Bare Knuckle Nation.
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  What's going on?
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  >> Hurting cats. That's what I do. Got to
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  keep these guys. Sometimes we just talk
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  too much.
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  >> Twister can't stop touching. You like
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  that? Those are really cool though. By
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  the way, if you guys check those that
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  penalty box is really, really cool.
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  >> You guys get your own box to play with.
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  >> I'm just telling you.
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  >> Oh god. Oh god.
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  >> We got dang good sauce right here.
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  >> Dang good sauce.
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  >> All good sauce.
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  >> This has been good though, guys. This
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  has been fun.
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  >> Five episodes in. So, five in.
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  >> What's in French again?
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  >> What?
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  >> Sank.
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  >> There we go.
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  >> Russian French.
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  >> We're now on RDS. You're a hunter
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  gatherer.
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  >> Studied you in social studies.
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  >> Survivor.
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  >> That's all there is to it.
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  >> So, what's going on, dudes? What's the
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  good word? What's the good word, Loy?
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  >> Talking about You're yelling at me off
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  >> Buffin. Dustin Buff.
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  >> Oh, yeah. Buff.
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  >> Yeah. Because these guys tell all these
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  cool stories. I'm like, just save it.
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  Let's just get Let's get going. And then
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  we tell stories on here so other people
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  could hear it.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> You know what I mean?
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  >> How about the surf and turf at
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  McDonald's, the Big Mac, and Filet of
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  Fish?
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  >> Should I get the surfing turf? They
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  should have that. The a quarter pounder
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  with a fillet of fish. I'll get the
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  surfing
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  >> ter YOU GUYS DO YOU GUYS GO to the fast
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  food? Do you guys do the fast food? Like
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  sometimes at night like
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  >> sometimes
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  >> I go and I'll get a goddamn double
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  quarter pounder. Oo doggy.
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  >> Have you heard of the Mc Gang Bang?
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  >> Excuse me, sir. Where did he come from?
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  >> Where did he come from?
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  >> Can you please run that by me? What is
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  this?
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  >> Send me a video. This is Jo Josh, our
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  our our editor and chief and and chief
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  filmographer. And uh what is a uh dare I
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  say?
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  >> Okay. So, in high school, my buddies
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  called it the ganganger.
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  >> And it's it's a McChick and a McDouble.
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  You open the McDouble. You stack the
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  McChick in there, put it together, and
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  you eat that.
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  >> That's a gang banger.
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  >> That's called the missing out of your
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  ass for about 24 hours.
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  >> Why would you call it a Mc Gang?
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  >> I have no idea. I have no idea. Oh, we
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  don't either.
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  >> I was picturing something completely
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  different.
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  >> You need that video. Anyway, you're a
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  sick man idea.
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  >> Surf and turf.
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  >> McDonald's, if you're listening, by the
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  way, that's trademark. We already
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  licensed to surf and turf. Okay.
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  >> Call us. We'll sell it to you.
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  >> Sometimes I I'll go to McDonald's and
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  just
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  >> Okay, boys. When you order out, when you
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  when you go through a drive-thru, you
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  have to have a name. Can't be yours
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  because one somebody remembers. I'm
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  Priscilla.
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  >> Every time I go, I am Priscilla. And
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  I'll tell you, I go to the same
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  Chick-fil-A's for for breakfast because
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  Chick-fil-A does a great job. They're
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  the best breakfast.
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  >> And now all I have I'm ordering it
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  through the drive-thru. Priscilla. Yeah.
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  Everybody. Then I get I get back there
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  to serve. Priscilla, how are you today?
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  It takes everybody off off count. But
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  I'll do it better. When you're ordering,
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  order in a girl's voice as best you can.
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  Like I mean, you start Marge Simpson
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  smoking.
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  >> Give us
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  Patty and S. I want to hear.
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  >> I can't right now because my voice is
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  I'm I'm I'm suffering on the uh I had
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  too much. Uh
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  >> Hi, Priscilla in your throat.
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  >> Welcome to Chick-fil-A. What can I What
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  can you order?
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  >> Can I tell
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  >> I would like I would like to order the
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  um the the uh Hold on. I got to get this
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  out.
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  >> I'd like to order the uh uh the the
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  biscuit and chicken, cheese, and egg and
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  two eggs and two extra uh breakfast
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  fillets, please. Uh what's your name?
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  It's Priscilla.
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  >> You're scaring all those children for a
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  second.
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  >> They're all young kids
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  >> for a second just for fun without
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  getting carried away.
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  Picture Twister dressed up as a woman
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  trying to come through.
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  >> Hold on.
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  >> Those big hands.
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  >> I've done that.
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  >> You wouldn't be a good looking woman.
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  No, you're a good-look man. But you are
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  not a good-look man. None of us would
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  be. That makes me look like an old
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  woman, but I got the hair. So, I'll do
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  that order and I'll go up to the to the
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  drive-thru and I'll put the mask on and
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  they'll go, "Uh, this is Priscilla. Do
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  you have my" And they'll be looking at
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  me like, "Now, understand that if you go
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  to the same place for, you know,
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  whatever, you become a there's the
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  story. It's like steak. You got to put
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  yourself out there."
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  >> So, I went to a Chick-fil-A one time
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  with all my kids in the vehicle, and
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  they dared me that I wouldn't go through
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  the drive-thru backwards. I drove the
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  drive-thru backwards. They were freaking
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  out. I pull up and the guy I'm like
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  this. The guy's handed the food through
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  the passenger side. This my kids were
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  dying laughing.
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  >> What do you Wait, wait, wait, wait,
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  wait. You went backward like just
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  reverse the whole
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  >> drove reverse all the way through the
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  back
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  >> which is like tight corners.
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  >> It was good driving. Kids love it. And
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  then and I also got dared by my kids a
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  lot of times uh to sing the McDonald's
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  the the Big Mac song when I ordered my
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  Big Mac. So, I pull up to the the
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  drive-thru and I'd be like, "Can I get
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  two all beef patty special sauce out of
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  cheese, pickles, onion on a sesame seed
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  bun?
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  >> They love it." And my kids are losing
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  their mind. And they're like, "What?" I
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  said, "Two all beef patty special sauce
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  of cheese, pickles, onion on a sesame
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  seed bun." They're like, "Sir, what
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  would you like?" I said, "I'm telling
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  you what I want. IT'S YOUR COMMERCIAL.
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  YOU ALL BE PATTY SAUCE PICKLES ON A
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  STARVING NOW. Patty's
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  >> [ __ ] it. I JUST WANT
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  >> STARVING.
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  >> I want a Mc gang bang.
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  >> Yeah, that was odd. I don't know. I
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  still don't get that one. The gang bang
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  burger. I'll eat it. I'm going to try
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  it.
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  >> I'm sure you
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  >> There's a couple nights where I Yeah,
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  you get a little sauced up.
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  >> It was a McDonald's there one night and
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  uh I'm walking that night back to the
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  hotel, whatever. I'm like, I'm [ __ ]
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  hungry. The door's locked, but they're
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  doing the drive-thru. So I get in line
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  standing up like no car. I'm walking
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  behind the car. There's a car behind me.
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  They're like, "What the hell?" So I get
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  up to the little speaker thing and I
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  order my food. And they're like, "Okay,
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  great." You know, then I get up to the
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  window like, "Oh, no, no, this is a
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  drive-thru." I go, "Well, I don't have a
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  car." She go, they go, "Well, you can't
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  order." I'm like, "How ridiculous is
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  this?" I'm like, "I already got money."
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  >> I go, "Yeah, I got money. They wouldn't
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  serve me." So I go, "Okay, no problem."
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  So, I walk back. There's a car that's
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  pulling up to the speaker. I'm like,
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  >> "Can I get in?
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  >> Can I get in your car?"
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  >> I'll buy your meal. I'LL BUY YOUR FOOD
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  IF YOU LET ME GO.
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  I GO, "I'll pay for whatever you buy." I
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  go, "I'll just sit in the back seat and
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  we pull up, just roll my window out."
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  So, I do the same order. We go THROUGH
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  AGAIN THE SAME LIKE GOT A CAR NOW.
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  >> I UH
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  >> That's good.
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  >> I was in Nashville one time.
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  >> And I went to uh
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  >> That's a good one, dude. I went to
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  McDonald's with another player. I I
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  don't know if I want to mention his
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  name, but uh we went to McDonald's late
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  at night and I ordered just [ __ ] huge
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  soda and the cabbie was not happy with
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  us. We're little loud.
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  The last thing he wants to do is go to
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  [ __ ] McDonald's and I'm like figuring
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  out what to order. We drive away
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  >> and he hits a bump and I the soda goes
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  everywhere. Boom.
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  >> Guy pulls over, takes a gun out. Get the
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  [ __ ] out of here. Are you kidding me?
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  No. I go, "Oh, Nashville." And we gave
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  him a couple hundred bucks, got out, got
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  another cab, went back, fought McGraten
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  the next day.
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  >> [ __ ]
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  >> I would tell you one story that if
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  you're back in the Quebec days,
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  >> now this was back when in the '9s when
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  Quebec was trying to separate from
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  Canada.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> So, anybody who was English that was in
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  Quebec, we got treated like dog poop.
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  >> Yeah. Well, after a game, Max's wife Jos
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  and I are hungry, going to go through a
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  drive-thru. So, I'm trying to I'm
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  ordering and I can eat and she's and
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  she's drunk and she's getting a little
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  pissy and I'm ordering in French and
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  then she's then she's chiming in and
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  this lady on the other side is starting
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  to be rude. Now, it's 2:00 in the
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  morning, right? And so Jo decides to go
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  on a tirade and I go, "Now the order's
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  done." I go, "Well, I'm not eating."
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> And she goes, "What do you mean?" I go,
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  "You just you're English number one.
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  We're in a and so I'm not eating." She
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  goes, "I'm starving." We get up. Do we
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  get the food?
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  >> And I She goes, "You want?" I said,
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  "Absolutely not." I said, "I would check
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  yours." And she she took a bite.
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  Cigarettes, cigarette butts, and God
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  knows what else. She goes, "Let's go
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  turn around." I go, "Not a chance.
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  >> You probably want to go in and
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  I'm not First of all, I'm not unleashing
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  you over there. I'm not doing that. And
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  second of all, you're not going to
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  achieve anything but us going to jail.
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  >> Yes.
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  >> So always be nice
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  after you get your food.
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  >> And don't be afraid to tip when you're
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  going through the drive-thru.
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  >> Are they still separate?
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  >> Do you tip? You tip on drive-thrus?
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  >> Can I tell you for sure?
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  >> Okay.
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  >> Yeah, you No, you're right. You did, but
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  I wanted a question.
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  >> If you GO TO THE CURIOUS CAR,
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  >> go ahead. If you go to the bar and you
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  ask a good-looking girl how much a beer
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  is, you know what she's going to say? I
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  don't know. Because she doesn't buy it.
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  But if you ask a girl that's not a a
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  greatlook, but personable how much is a
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  beer, she'll tell you how much it is
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  with tax because she appreciates when
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  you buy one. Same thing goes when you're
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  at going through a drive-thru. Just
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  because you're going through a
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  drive-thru, these people are serving
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  even through COVID and everything else.
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  These people kept their jobs and serving
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  us. Why not give them a tip?
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  >> You give a Do you do it on your card?
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  Because I feel like they just take not
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  cash. Always cash. But you can't have
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  cash because you're on the car. You're
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  not guaranteed to get it.
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  >> Well, there's no tips.
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  >> There's no tips. You always got to cash
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  >> cuz Subway and everything does, man. 20%
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  20%. They do that now. That happened
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  after
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  drive in and hit the tap the machine.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Let me ask you this. You go,
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  >> not drive in. Walk in.
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  >> Well, you don't drive your car in drive
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  your car into subway.
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  >> You go you go into a coffee shop. I
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  won't name the name, but it's a very
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  popular Starbucks. Starbucks
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  going to Starbucks. I don't want to lose
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  a sponsor, Loy. So,
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  >> we don't have any [ __ ] sponsors.
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  >> I know, but we won't get it if we just
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  listen to J. He's been spas anymore and
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  they're massive
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  spas.
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  >> So,
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  >> you go to the counter, you order not
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  every Starbucks like I just order the
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  pike. Like just the the the order.
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  >> No, no, that's later. The pike at first
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  >> it's the basic coffee. Well, sometimes
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  these locations just hand you a cup and
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  it's over on the thing and then they
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  turn the [ __ ] thing around. They want
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  to tip. I'm like, why the [ __ ] would
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  like I'm not cheap. You guys know me.
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  I'm not, you know. You know, like guys
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  who play
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  >> Yeah, that you you got rid of the steam
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  earlier.
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  >> The what?
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  >> Jamie Riverstein.
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  >> Oh, goodness gracious.
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  >> I thought you said like Alex STE. I'M
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  LIKE, DON'T BRING that guy up.
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  >> When they machine around to you and it's
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  the tipping thing, what do they say? Cuz
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  I've heard some
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  >> say, oh, there's just it's going to ask
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  you a couple of questions.
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  >> Yes. Yes.
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  >> No, it's not. No, it's extorting me.
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  >> Exactly.
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  >> I know.
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  >> But I'm not cheap. But I sit there and I
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  go,
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  >> "You handed me an empty cup. I'm going
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  to pour my own coffee
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  >> and I'm punch like I'm doing the I'm
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  doing just as much as you did.
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  >> Do you tip?"
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  >> I I do anyways. I feel like I feel like
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  an [ __ ]
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  >> My latte, I'm tipping.
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  >> Yeah, but if they hand you a cup and you
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  got to go make your own.
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  >> Hey, I'll tell you this right now. If
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  you own a coffee shop on Manchester
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  Road, those places are jam-packed every
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  [ __ ] second. I don't even, Dude, I
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  make my own, man.
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  >> Because my daughter, my youngest,
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  McKennon, she will sit in line at a
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  Starbucks or a seven brew.
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  >> 15 20 minutes in line. I'm like,
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  >> and 15 bucks.
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  >> Yeah. Oh, easily.
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  >> I'm like, why would you wait in line for
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  a car? I see the Starbucks on the rivers
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  is like 12 cars deep.
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  >> A mile long. the and they're everywhere.
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  It's the weirdest thing. They're popped
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  up everywhere.
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  >> Get a coffee.
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  >> Go to QT. And I like to make my own. Get
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  a good espresso machine.
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  >> Yep. I got one.
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  >> Cuz I coffee is kind of not strong
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  enough for me. I need espresso.
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  >> I hear you. You were talking about the
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  tip, you know, turning the coffee
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  around. So, what are your boys opinions
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  when See, I'm getting a check from
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  Deerbergs and Shnooks and they send it
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  to me like every every week I get paid
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  because I'm I'm I'm buying my own
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  groceries. cuz I'm running it through
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  the scanner and I'm getting paid for
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  that.
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  >> You guys not getting paid?
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  >> No, you're not getting paid.
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  >> Oh, okay. I'm just checking that.
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  >> You're right, though.
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  >> That's a whole different story, though.
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  >> Walmart is like 30
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  points or what?
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  >> I'm just talking They're letting me
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  check out.
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  >> I listen, I got like $250 in Shnook's
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  bucks. Like, it's unbelievable. I spend
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  >> That's a good feeling week.
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  >> THAT'S GOOD. That's a good feeling when
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  you have that just like racked up. loves
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  my boys for free today.
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  >> I spend so much money on food. I spend
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  so much money on food just to like cook.
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  >> Steak at my house like every sing.
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  >> Oh yeah. We only have kids and I spend
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  just even like I did a seafood boil last
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  weekend. 200 bucks easy.
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  >> Saw that. You're all
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  >> God. I love it because
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  Kate's got to eat.
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  >> Kate's like what?
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  >> Kate's got to eat.
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  >> Lobster tails. She's so disgusted by She
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  should be overweight, but because of how
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  I eat
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  >> with her hands in there, she just
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  doesn't. She might weigh 100 pounds.
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  >> She only weighs Yeah, she's 100. And I'm
• 14:13
  a a grotesque mutant.
• 14:15
  >> Get yourself some bare knucklebcue. bare
• 14:18
  knuckle-b.com.
• 14:21
  If you haven't got some, get yourself
• 14:23
  some.
• 14:25
  Throughout your career, what was a past
• 14:29
  player or one that you played with that
• 14:32
  gave you the best information that you
• 14:35
  traveled through your career with that
• 14:36
  you held on tightly and and and I'll
• 14:39
  predicate it to this. Maybe you just did
• 14:42
  that or whatever was lent to you out of
• 14:44
  blind faith and then realized years
• 14:47
  later, "Holy [ __ ] this is this is why I
• 14:50
  was told this. This is why this
• 14:52
  individual said to me and you're blind
• 14:54
  faith following and you realized at the
• 14:56
  end of your career or midway through
• 14:58
  going, man, I wonder what else that
• 15:00
  person said that I didn't catch." Al
• 15:03
  Tour was my coach in the Western League
• 15:05
  as a 19 and a 20-year-old. And he told
• 15:08
  me um that these were my money makers
• 15:12
  and that I was going to that I was a
• 15:14
  tough kid and that as long as I kept
• 15:15
  working on my skill that I needed to
• 15:17
  protect these. So never get in a street
• 15:19
  fight or a bar fight because don't ever
• 15:21
  waste something that like these things
• 15:23
  on somebody that's not helping you cash
• 15:25
  a paycheck. So I've never been in a
• 15:26
  street fight or a bar fight. When I was
• 15:28
  first in St. Louis, I'd have guys coming
• 15:30
  up to me all the time and I'd be like,
• 15:31
  "Hey, uh, you know, I'm kind of a [ __ ]
• 15:34
  off skates, so what if I buy you and
• 15:36
  your buddies drinks all night and you
• 15:38
  guys can kind of take care of me if
• 15:39
  anything goes bad?" They're like,
• 15:40
  "Really?" I'm like, "Yeah, sure." I'm
• 15:41
  like, "These guys are on my tab." And I
• 15:43
  did that everywhere I went. So then I'd
• 15:44
  walk into place and they'd be like, "Oh,
• 15:46
  cost me a,000 bucks a night, but I
• 15:47
  didn't have to get in any fights cuz I I
• 15:49
  really didn't like fighting. I just
• 15:52
  >> wanted to make the NHL more than I
• 15:53
  didn't want to fight. So like that was
• 15:55
  kind of the thing for me, right? And I
• 15:57
  loved that I could do something that
• 15:59
  nobody else could do and my teammates
• 16:01
  loved me for it. And so that's kind of
• 16:03
  Al Tur. And then Al Tur gave me some
• 16:05
  other good advice which I did not use my
• 16:07
  first year in the NHL. He said, "Never
• 16:08
  get in a war of words with people that
• 16:11
  order their ink by the barrel or spend
• 16:13
  their days on a microphone."
• 16:14
  >> Oh,
• 16:15
  >> like we do.
• 16:16
  >> Like we do. So and I So I tried to keep
• 16:17
  it clean in the newspaper. Just take it
• 16:19
  on whatever else. go behind closed doors
• 16:21
  if somebody said something to me uh or
• 16:23
  something about me in the paper that I
• 16:24
  didn't like which I didn't really have a
• 16:26
  whole lot of that but uh yeah Alton was
• 16:29
  like like instrumental in me getting to
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  >> don't ever have war of words with Gar
• 16:34
  Butcher is what he was trying to tell
• 16:35
  you
• 16:37
  >> he's our best friend
• 16:38
  >> he will disassemble you
• 16:42
  >> um so as a player it was I think my
• 16:46
  first year here in St. Lewis, Craig
• 16:49
  McTavish.
• 16:50
  >> Oh boy.
• 16:50
  >> So, M T,
• 16:51
  >> last guy to play without a helmet and
• 16:53
  we're out there getting bag skated. It
• 16:55
  was the playoffs and neither of us was
• 16:57
  playing. And uh I was pissy about it,
• 17:01
  you know? I'm like cuz I thought, well,
• 17:02
  I should be in the [ __ ] lineup, you
• 17:03
  know? Course you're young. You think I
• 17:06
  should be on the top of the power play
• 17:07
  right now.
• 17:08
  >> Al, step aside, please.
• 17:10
  >> Yeah. I was like, hey, there's a funny
• 17:12
  story about that, too, by the way. About
• 17:14
  Al. I'll tell you that one, too. But M T
• 17:16
  and I are skating and I'm pissy. I'm
• 17:18
  like kind of I'm a really good skater.
• 17:20
  So I go half speed, 3/4 speed. I'm I'm
• 17:23
  skating with MAC T. And he's like, "What
• 17:25
  are you doing?" I'm like, "What?" He
• 17:27
  goes, "You should be burying me." He
• 17:30
  goes, "You're 10 times the [ __ ]
• 17:32
  skater I am." He goes, "Right now, they
• 17:33
  think you're the same speed as me." And
• 17:35
  he goes, "What if they're looking at
• 17:37
  that and going, "Well, this guy's no
• 17:38
  [ __ ] good. He can't even skate faster
• 17:40
  than Craig McTavish for He can't put
• 17:42
  this guy." He goes, "Every [ __ ] time
• 17:44
  you're on the ice, it's a try out. Every
• 17:46
  time."
• 17:47
  >> I'm like, "Okay." So then I started
• 17:49
  burying him in all the drills and he was
• 17:50
  like [ __ ] pumped about. Yeah. He's
• 17:52
  like, "You're too good to be scratch."
• 17:55
  He goes, "You're too good not to play."
• 17:56
  He said, "Show them every time."
• 17:58
  >> So that was Mte. Now I got almost the
• 18:01
  same advice from Scotty Bowman.
• 18:03
  >> I was in Detroit.
• 18:04
  >> And you know, you got all these [ __ ]
• 18:06
  Hall of Famers. Nobody's practicing
• 18:08
  hard. Like if you practice hard, you're
• 18:10
  almost the [ __ ] You got Eerman,
• 18:12
  Zederberg, Datu, Holly, Shanahan, Ray
• 18:15
  Whitney, like all these guys, right?
• 18:17
  >> And a buttload of oves.
• 18:19
  >> Yes.
• 18:20
  Not not so many of them. There was more
• 18:22
  Swedish guys when I was there. The
• 18:23
  Russians had kind of went their way. But
• 18:26
  uh he skates up to me and he goes, "Hey,
• 18:29
  having a good training camp was my very
• 18:31
  first training." Yeah, you're having a
• 18:32
  good training camp. He goes, "Uh, hey,
• 18:34
  let the coach catch you doing something
• 18:36
  good." I go, "What?" He goes, "I'm I'm
• 18:41
  just telling you." He goes, "You're
• 18:42
  nothing you're not doing anything
• 18:43
  wrong." But he's like, "Most coaches
• 18:44
  catch people who are doing something
• 18:46
  bad. They look for the bad. They look
• 18:48
  for like the bad the the lack of effort,
• 18:50
  whatever." He goes, "Every time I turn
• 18:52
  around, I want to catch you doing
• 18:53
  something good. Working hard, good pass,
• 18:55
  good shot on net, stop in front of the
• 18:56
  net, picking sticks up in front like I
• 18:59
  want to catch you doing something good."
• 19:00
  And so M's advice about always working
• 19:03
  hard. And then Scotty Bowman's advice
• 19:05
  about paying attention to all the
• 19:07
  details, too. making sure you're always
• 19:09
  on your game. I learned that from those
• 19:12
  two and I tried to put it to practice.
• 19:14
  >> Great predication.
• 19:15
  >> It's unbelievable. Yeah. I was like,
• 19:16
  "Fuck, that's great advice, man."
• 19:17
  >> Oh, yeah, it is.
• 19:18
  >> Subie, what do you got?
• 19:19
  >> I have two things. So, I was a young
• 19:21
  18-year-old kid coming out of Northwood
• 19:23
  Prep and I went to the Montreal
• 19:24
  Canadians training camp.
• 19:25
  >> Northwood Prep.
• 19:26
  >> Yeah. Up in Lake Placid.
• 19:28
  >> And I went into Montreal. Yeah. It's a
• 19:30
  prep school. And it was great. It was
• 19:32
  great.
• 19:32
  >> Okay.
• 19:32
  >> So, I went to Montreal and I was 18. Um,
• 19:35
  for hockey was pretty good. It was a
• 19:37
  hockey factory kind of before they built
• 19:39
  these clinics and stuff like TPH and
• 19:41
  stuff.
• 19:42
  >> But the next summer I'm going in
• 19:44
  training camp with Montreal and to
• 19:46
  Montreal the old forum and I'm watching
• 19:48
  these guys walk around see how they
• 19:50
  carry themselves and
• 19:51
  >> who was playing who was with your
• 19:53
  >> carer was there Patrick was there I mean
• 19:55
  these guys were I'm in Boston watching
• 19:57
  play the Bruins all the time growing up
• 19:59
  and I'm like watching all these guys are
• 20:00
  like doing what they do and I'm like
• 20:02
  well this is how it's done. So I just
• 20:04
  kind of copied exactly what they did.
• 20:06
  And that was one thing. Then later in my
• 20:08
  career, when Jimmy Roberts was coming
• 20:11
  down on me, Jimmy Roberts made said
• 20:14
  something. We said, "Anything you can do
• 20:16
  at 3:00 a.m., you can do at 3:00 p.m."
• 20:18
  And I was like, "Okay, let's do that
• 20:20
  from now on.
• 20:24
  >> Happy hour.
• 20:25
  >> You can do 3 p.m. You can do 3 a.m.
• 20:27
  That's awesome."
• 20:28
  >> Oh, that stuck with me.
• 20:29
  >> But there's a the picture in the alumni
• 20:31
  room.
• 20:32
  >> Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy trying to get into
• 20:34
  sound talking about the
• 20:35
  >> every time we walk in they're like one
• 20:37
  in one ear.
• 20:40
  >> We got to show that picture by the way.
• 20:41
  >> We got to show that picture. But there's
• 20:43
  this picture in our alumni room and and
• 20:45
  Jimmy Roberts has got us and he's
• 20:46
  teaching him and Subie is just staring
• 20:48
  up.
• 20:48
  >> SUBIE STARING INTO THE BEST PARTY'S
• 20:51
  going what am I going to have for lunch?
• 20:52
  >> Jimmy Roberts was our defense coach. So
• 20:55
  he know he was talking to you about
• 20:56
  defense. You're like how can I play
• 20:57
  defense when I'm at the other line?
• 20:59
  >> In that picture he may have been the
• 21:01
  head coach. He might have been
• 21:02
  >> briefly because when they fired Keenan,
• 21:04
  there was a gap. Jimmy was a head coach
• 21:06
  until Q.
• 21:07
  >> He was he was definitely showing me
• 21:09
  something about defense.
• 21:10
  >> Dude, it's so funny. Are we going to
• 21:11
  >> I look at that every time I every time I
• 21:14
  skate, I look at that and smile. There's
• 21:16
  so many pictures in there. I just
• 21:18
  >> What do you got? Who's your
• 21:19
  >> man? I had a you know, Lula Marillo was
• 21:22
  a big part of my life. My dad and mom
• 21:24
  were a big part of my life. My dad would
• 21:26
  just pump my tires up like you're the
• 21:28
  tough like, okay. Um, you know, so I
• 21:30
  always had like that motiv. I didn't
• 21:31
  need much. I always called my dad before
• 21:33
  every single game, no matter what. Even
• 21:35
  if I forgot and I had to go run in the
• 21:37
  locker room real quick and he'd be like,
• 21:38
  "You're the toughest. Go out there." I'm
• 21:40
  like, "Oh god, guys, baby."
• 21:42
  >> Oh, yeah. But probably the best advice
• 21:43
  was uh Steve Hut in Windsor said, "Take
• 21:46
  your time with the girl situation." I'm
• 21:48
  like, "Okay." And I did. You know what I
• 21:51
  mean? You don't get married at a young
• 21:52
  age. Do this, do that. Just watch that.
• 21:54
  And I go, "Okay." And I never had that
• 21:57
  trying to find girls at Eureka High
• 21:58
  School, but I thought, you know, I'm a
• 22:01
  hillbilly wearing the same shirt two
• 22:02
  days in a row.
• 22:04
  >> You know, and then you when you get to
• 22:06
  Windsor in that little bubble and you
• 22:08
  just say, "Be careful with that." Like,
• 22:09
  okay.
• 22:09
  >> Where did you meet Kate?
• 22:11
  >> I knew her in high school, but she
• 22:13
  didn't talk to me. And then she became a
• 22:15
  Ram beneath her. She became a Rams
• 22:16
  cheerleader. And I got traded here. And
• 22:19
  then late like when I was like 29, I
• 22:21
  started uh seeing her out uh and she was
• 22:24
  single at the time. So that's when I
• 22:26
  started to wheel her. So a little later
• 22:28
  age kind of went through everything.
• 22:29
  >> All the girls that were available in
• 22:30
  Eureka wanted nothing to do with these.
• 22:32
  What you
• 22:32
  >> Yeah. I mean I wasn't that bad. I wasn't
• 22:34
  that pathetic. But I thought I I look I
• 22:35
  look back on it. I'm like I DIDN'T HAVE
• 22:37
  [ __ ]
• 22:38
  >> YEAH. My mom and dad didn't have any
• 22:39
  money, you know? Like I'm like bragging
• 22:42
  to people. I'm going to I'm a hockey
• 22:43
  player. They have no idea what I'm
• 22:44
  [ __ ] doing. He had a Six Flag season.
• 22:47
  You thinking about working at Six Flags?
• 22:50
  >> So, you know, spooky as [ __ ] you know,
• 22:53
  >> want to go to Ranger.
• 22:55
  >> You know, sweetheart,
• 22:56
  >> I would take girls in my my house.
• 22:58
  >> GET ONE FREE.
• 22:59
  >> My dad would come out and like have to
• 23:01
  go to the bathroom in the middle of the
• 23:02
  night, you know, in his underwear. I'm
• 23:03
  like,
• 23:06
  >> so funny. Who's yours? Well, I I've I've
• 23:10
  got so many Bobby Plagger euthanisms and
• 23:14
  things.
• 23:15
  >> I I mean, it would be an entire show
• 23:17
  because without his
• 23:20
  >> without his uh enthusiasm to share the
• 23:23
  game, and he shared it with everybody,
• 23:25
  don't get me wrong. It's whether you
• 23:26
  chose to listen or not. But if you lent
• 23:28
  an ear to him, you learned a lot because
• 23:31
  he go in depth because everything he
• 23:33
  said, whether it be funny or in justest,
• 23:35
  had some meaning behind it and had some
• 23:38
  history behind it. So it wasn't just
• 23:39
  willy-nilly, he had it, it was history
• 23:42
  and and if you ask where' that come, he
• 23:44
  will go into a story that's not only
• 23:47
  funny,
• 23:48
  >> not only funny. So on the back of this
• 23:50
  bottle is the most important saying that
• 23:53
  I think and I live by it and it it and
• 23:56
  if you want to and I'm not going to read
• 23:57
  it per on here but it's on the back of
• 23:59
  my bottle and that's a quote from Bobby
• 24:01
  Plagger is you got to play for the logo
• 24:04
  that's in the front. Never play for the
• 24:07
  name in the back. Always remember that
• 24:09
  that name placard is interchangeable.
• 24:12
  The logo is not.
• 24:14
  >> Yeah. What a great. Now, if you think
• 24:16
  about that, that is so true. And there's
• 24:19
  so many players that played for their
• 24:21
  name on the back and you could tell who
• 24:23
  they were. Didn't always shine through
• 24:25
  because meaning that well, they weren't
• 24:27
  always exposed, but there was times when
• 24:30
  they were being exposed when they could
• 24:32
  have played for the logo. Yeah. But they
• 24:33
  decided to play for that name in the
• 24:35
  back. And that meant that that defined
• 24:37
  you. That defined you. What you do one
• 24:40
  time is what you'll do all the time. Not
• 24:42
  necessarily always the truth, but in
• 24:44
  this particular case, yeah, if you're
• 24:45
  gonna if you're going to play for your
• 24:46
  name one time, I'm pretty hardressed to
• 24:48
  think that you're going to do it all the
• 24:50
  time. If you're going to run if you're
• 24:52
  going to run on being shot at one time,
• 24:54
  you're pretty much going to do it again.
• 24:57
  And that was one of the most important
• 24:59
  things amongst a whole bunch of other
• 25:00
  things. But Bobby Plagger had a great
• 25:02
  influence.
• 25:03
  >> I miss that man. biggest thing about
• 25:05
  that is cuz I I've said that forever too
• 25:07
  because I remember Bobby telling us,
• 25:09
  "Wait for the name on the front, not the
• 25:10
  name on the back, boys." And it was
• 25:12
  always about the group. The team was
• 25:14
  always more important than the
• 25:15
  individual. And I feel like, and I tell
• 25:17
  people when we talk about just St. Louis
• 25:19
  and how many of us alumni stick around
• 25:21
  here and how we were so tight-knit. Uh
• 25:24
  it's it's kind of the Bobby Pagger way,
• 25:26
  right? Like Bobby was always out in
• 25:28
  front self self-sacrificing himself for
• 25:30
  what was good for the group or whatever.
• 25:32
  like he worked for the Blues for what 55
• 25:34
  years and I think he did almost every
• 25:36
  single position including like in
• 25:39
  general manager head coach special
• 25:41
  assignments ambassador he wouldn't do
• 25:44
  your IHL team in ' 89 90 like the coach
• 25:48
  left the story goes you tell me but like
• 25:50
  the coach was there like they lost the
• 25:51
  coach somehow and they're like Bobby we
• 25:53
  need you to go down and coach this team
• 25:54
  he's like sounds good to me boom
• 25:56
  >> I remember though remember uh I remember
• 25:59
  >> he it got to a point where they had
• 26:01
  Bobby doing so much stuff. So much
• 26:03
  stuff. And they were in a meeting one
• 26:05
  time, Twist, you know what I'm talking
• 26:06
  about with this. And they're like,
• 26:07
  "Well, what are we going to do? We got
• 26:08
  We need somebody to do this. We'll just
• 26:10
  have Bobby do it." And you guys got You
• 26:13
  and Chaser got so pissed. Yeah.
• 26:14
  >> And said, "No, no, no, no, no. That's
• 26:16
  not what we're [ __ ] doing. Bob, have
• 26:18
  Bobby do it. What does he look like?"
• 26:19
  So, he kind of he would do so much. He
• 26:22
  was such an unbelievable ambassador. He
• 26:24
  would make everybody laugh. If you
• 26:25
  couldn't find him in an area, you just
• 26:27
  have to look over where all the
• 26:28
  good-looking girls were. And he's right
• 26:29
  in the middle of it telling stories,
• 26:31
  >> telling jokes,
• 26:33
  >> shaking his phone that thinks he got
• 26:34
  away.
• 26:35
  >> You never saw a picture of Bobby by
• 26:38
  himself. I'll tell you why. Everybody's
• 26:39
  got pictures of Bobby with Bobby. You
• 26:42
  know why? Cuz everybody want to take a
• 26:43
  picture. Goes, "No way. You got to stand
• 26:45
  with me."
• 26:45
  >> Yeah. So every picture and predicated
• 26:48
  that the second player that I respected
• 26:52
  obviously way before that but this
• 26:55
  moment in time was a eyeopener for me
• 26:58
  because the guys in today's game can
• 27:00
  take this to the bank. We're in Detroit
• 27:03
  game seven. Uh we're going to the
• 27:06
  Athenian Hotel in downtown. I remember
• 27:09
  that place.
• 27:09
  >> We're all getting off the bus and we
• 27:11
  have a starstudded team. Gretz is in the
• 27:13
  basket. He goes, "Wister, can you hold
• 27:15
  on? I'm going to sign some autographs."
• 27:17
  So, they no problem. Everybody went past
• 27:19
  all these fans. Not one, not anybody
• 27:21
  signed cuz we had a meeting in 45
• 27:24
  minutes or sorry, 1 hour up at at a
• 27:27
  room, whatever. And so, we stop and
• 27:30
  there's Wayne Gretzky. All right, we're
• 27:32
  game seven. We just game seven. We're
• 27:37
  going to the hotel, right? Or say it was
• 27:40
  game. Yeah, game seven. Going to the
• 27:41
  hotel and everybody's getting ready for
• 27:43
  the game. There's Wayne. Stops, starts
• 27:45
  signing autographs. There's a whole
• 27:46
  lineup he signed. But not only did he
• 27:49
  sign his name, he asked names. Yeah.
• 27:51
  What's your name, signs his name, and
• 27:53
  then signs sign signs that person's
• 27:55
  name, then his name.
• 27:56
  >> He stood there for 45 minutes. For 45
• 27:59
  minutes, and he whispered, say, Twister,
• 28:01
  we got to get to the meeting. I go, no
• 28:03
  problem. I said, on behalf of the Blues,
• 28:04
  myself, and especially Wayne Gretzky,
• 28:06
  thank you so much. Not one one not one
• 28:09
  person goes shoves it in the face, goes
• 28:11
  once more. They applauded him.
• 28:13
  >> Yeah.
• 28:14
  >> As we're walking into the hotel, I go,
• 28:17
  >> "You're a legend."
• 28:18
  >> He walks on water.
• 28:19
  >> You're a legend. And you know why? If
• 28:21
  you There's Wayne Gretzky.
• 28:23
  >> He's synonymous. Gordy How's Gretzky. He
• 28:26
  took the time on a playoff day and he
• 28:29
  signed for 45 minutes. And I promise you
• 28:32
  that he did not want he wanted to be
• 28:34
  there, but he he was tired. He was sore.
• 28:36
  I mean, I mean, this guy had been
• 28:38
  through war in this in this playoff
• 28:39
  series. but with a smile, with no He
• 28:43
  wasn't aggravated. He did everything and
• 28:46
  not one person shoved it back in his
• 28:47
  face.
• 28:48
  >> He He's probably the nicest superstar in
• 28:50
  the world.
• 28:50
  >> He's amazing.
• 28:51
  >> That to me is a mentality that every pro
• 28:54
  player, no matter what the sport should
• 28:55
  carry, like I always said like, and
• 28:58
  Jamie says this to me, I said, "We'd
• 28:59
  like to go out for dinner and right
• 29:01
  before we go out, are you ready to go?"
• 29:03
  And most of the time, yeah. But if I'm
• 29:05
  not, it's because I have You always have
• 29:08
  to have to smile and you got to and you
• 29:09
  got to be prepared to put shake hands.
• 29:11
  >> We're all ambassadors in some capacity,
• 29:13
  >> right? But not just for yourself. You're
• 29:15
  for the entire league for everybody. And
• 29:18
  if Wayne Gretzky didn't I know he did
• 29:20
  that more than a million times, but with
• 29:24
  the same enthusiasm. Are you kidding me?
• 29:26
  Now there's something to be learned.
• 29:27
  That was that to me was like
• 29:29
  >> that's why you're the king. Gretz I I
• 29:31
  remember that actually because I was in
• 29:33
  front of Gretz offering my autograph to
• 29:34
  people saying wait for Gretz for Gret
• 29:39
  now but here's my Wayne Gretzky moment
• 29:42
  several moments passed after this I had
• 29:44
  so many great times with with Wayne he
• 29:46
  was such a downto- earthth guy teammate
• 29:50
  like go out drinks dinner like it was
• 29:54
  just one of the guys but my very first
• 29:56
  time ever meeting Wayne Gretzk we had
• 29:58
  traded for
• 29:59
  We're on the road. Uh I wasn't with the
• 30:02
  team at the time. I get called up our
• 30:04
  first home game with Gretz and I'm in
• 30:08
  the lounge the old Keel Center at the
• 30:10
  time getting you know and I look in and
• 30:12
  there's Gretz remember he sat like Holly
• 30:13
  sat on one side of the door. Gretz was
• 30:15
  on the other side and Chaser was beside
• 30:17
  Holly and uh I remember looking like
• 30:20
  >> like a little tally there Gretzky. Oh my
• 30:24
  god. So I'm like I'm kind of nervous as
• 30:26
  I walk in the locker room. That locker
• 30:27
  room was massive. You're walking and I'm
• 30:30
  like walking towards this little man
• 30:33
  like he's not big. He was like 165 170
• 30:36
  pounds soaking wet
• 30:37
  >> and uh I walk over to him and I go uh
• 30:40
  >> hey no Jamie Rivers nice to meet you. He
• 30:43
  goes hey Wayne. I'm like no [ __ ]
• 30:47
  >> But he stands up. He meets me and he
• 30:49
  goes Jamie. Oh yeah. He goes oh [ __ ] He
• 30:51
  goes you uh you had a hell of a junior
• 30:54
  career. He put up some big points. I'm
• 30:55
  like I was like he KNOWS IT.
• 31:00
  It was But I learned like later on like
• 31:04
  he was just that good of a person. He I
• 31:07
  don't know if he researched it.
• 31:08
  >> Oh, he did. Every teammate, everybody.
• 31:12
  He knew who I was. He referenced like
• 31:13
  some of my like point totals and junior.
• 31:15
  He knew I played for the Sudbury Wolves
• 31:17
  and all this stuff. And like he's like,
• 31:18
  "Oh yeah, it's a pleasure being your
• 31:20
  teammate." And I was like, "Oh shit."
• 31:21
  You know,
• 31:22
  >> makes you feel good. But then when we're
• 31:23
  on the ice, I'm passing the puck like on
• 31:25
  a breakout to Wayne Gretzk to D to
• 31:27
  Gretz.
• 31:28
  >> Yeah, let's go. Like
• 31:29
  >> it's good when a superstar is nice like
• 31:31
  that.
• 31:31
  >> Got to watch other people do that.
• 31:33
  >> We did. Yeah, I did. They did let me
• 31:35
  play. So, you know, another awesome
• 31:38
  teammate of yours and a little bit of
• 31:40
  mine cuz I only had training camp with
• 31:42
  them. Grant Fur left a left the lasting
• 31:45
  impression on me for the rest of my
• 31:47
  life. First off, he was so nice to me.
• 31:49
  the training camp that I fought you and
• 31:51
  Chaseer in that those fights earning
• 31:53
  three exhibitions. And back then when
• 31:55
  you're making $40,000 a year, getting
• 31:57
  1,500 bucks for an exhibition game was a
• 31:59
  big deal
• 32:01
  to play some cash.
• 32:04
  >> I COULD GET IT down in the right. So,
• 32:06
  we're we're going to Colorado and me and
• 32:09
  Brent Johnson and FZY were all on the
• 32:11
  scratch list and there's still like 40
• 32:12
  of us on the team on the plane. We go
• 32:14
  down there. Um the guys are getting go
• 32:16
  to the rink and we all go for lunch and
• 32:18
  there's 15 or 20 of us going for lunch.
• 32:20
  So lunch happens. We go around and
• 32:22
  they're like, "All right, boys. Birds in
• 32:23
  the bush." And I'm like, Grant sit
• 32:25
  beside me like,
• 32:26
  >> "What's Birds in the Bush?" He's like,
• 32:27
  "Well, it's a game we play and whoever
• 32:29
  has to pay for the whole meal." I almost
• 32:31
  puked my dinner on the table. I ain't
• 32:34
  got 2500 bucks to pay for this meal. I
• 32:36
  have [ __ ] nickels. It's the worst thing
• 32:37
  that's ever happened to me. I'm like,
• 32:39
  "Okay, just be calm. How do I BECOME?" I
• 32:42
  GO, "HOW DO I PLAY THE GAME?" HE'S LIKE,
• 32:44
  "WELL, you're going to get three of
• 32:45
  these little sweet and lows."
• 32:46
  >> Yeah.
• 32:47
  >> And uh put them put them in put them in
• 32:49
  your hand. And you got your hands on the
• 32:50
  table and you put your hand on top of
• 32:52
  the table. D For those of you that don't
• 32:53
  know birds in the bush, you got to guess
• 32:56
  how many are in there. So,
• 32:57
  >> collectively
• 32:58
  >> collectively for everybody, right? And
• 33:00
  everybody shows their hand. They count
• 33:01
  them up and and I there's 15 of us and
• 33:04
  it's down to me,
• 33:06
  >> Chris Mallalpine. And I forget who the
• 33:08
  other one is. The only reason I know
• 33:09
  it's Malpine is cuz he lost. And I
• 33:11
  There's three of us. and the sweat and
• 33:14
  the nervousness. Like
• 33:15
  >> all I keep thinking is how am I supposed
• 33:17
  to tell these guys I can't afford to
• 33:18
  pay? I'm going to be the biggest loser
• 33:20
  on planet Earth, right? So anyways, I
• 33:22
  get out. Malpine plays against somebody
• 33:24
  else. He loses. We get up. Grant comes
• 33:27
  over and he wraps his arm around. He
• 33:28
  says, "Kid, you were never going to have
• 33:30
  to pay that bill." And I was just, you
• 33:32
  know, and then that we uh uh that was
• 33:35
  like the third or fourth game we played
• 33:36
  or whatever. And so on we're coming home
• 33:38
  after the game that night and Grant used
• 33:40
  to sit at the very back of the plane. We
• 33:42
  used to have the DC9s from American
• 33:44
  Airlines, three seats on one side and
• 33:46
  two on the other and he's all the way
• 33:47
  back there and he sends one of the
• 33:49
  stewardists up to get me and says Grant
• 33:51
  Fear wants to see in the back and I'm
• 33:53
  like okay like am I is Fury cutting me
• 33:55
  like
• 33:59
  did you go down and work on your game?
• 34:01
  So I go back and he's like, "Sit down."
• 34:03
  And he moves over and like I am getting
• 34:04
  death stares from everybody on the way
• 34:06
  back like what's this rookie F1 doing
• 34:09
  walking back here. I'm like, "Mr. Fear,
• 34:12
  >> Mr. Fear." He asked for me and then he
• 34:13
  stood up. He's like, "He's with me,
• 34:14
  guys. Relax." And so I go sit with them.
• 34:16
  We have a Captain Ginger cuz that was
• 34:18
  his drink. So we're having a couple of
• 34:20
  those. And then at that point in time,
• 34:21
  Mike Kitchen came back and called me up
• 34:23
  and he's like hanging out in the back
• 34:25
  with the boys. I'm like, Grant told me
• 34:26
  to go back. He's like, "Well, we just
• 34:27
  want you to know awesome training camp.
• 34:29
  D everything was great. Hey, you're
• 34:30
  going down TO THE MINOR. I SAID,
• 34:32
  >> APPEARS HE'S NOT CUTTING. YEAH. I go,
• 34:35
  can I go back? He's like, absolutely. Go
• 34:37
  back and have a couple more cocktails,
• 34:38
  kid. Good job. You know, Grant Beer was
• 34:41
  and every every time I saw him at a game
• 34:43
  after that when I made the NHL, he calls
• 34:45
  he called me sweet and low. Like that
• 34:47
  was his thing for me, sweets. And uh so
• 34:49
  I just he he just that lasting
• 34:51
  impression that an older hockey player
• 34:54
  doesn't have to give to a young kid. And
• 34:56
  so I always tried to do that when I was
• 34:58
  the veteran guy on the team. trying to
• 35:00
  search that guy out that needed some
• 35:02
  love or needed somebody to just believe
• 35:04
  in him or be good to him and that guy
• 35:07
  that love
• 35:08
  >> how
• 35:09
  >> would that I don't know if that's still
• 35:11
  done to but being called
• 35:13
  >> the importance of the guy's giving you
• 35:15
  [ __ ] because you don't belong in the
• 35:16
  back of the plane with all of us right
• 35:18
  >> so being called now it's not out of any
• 35:21
  other it's a privilege all right you
• 35:23
  earn that privilege and that was where
• 35:25
  the hierarchy stood but when you get
• 35:28
  called on the rug by by one of the
• 35:30
  veterans to come on back and everybody's
• 35:32
  giving you hey where you going hey no
• 35:34
  problem
• 35:34
  >> and you go back so that that that that
• 35:36
  feeling right the importance
• 35:38
  >> I accepted I felt accepted
• 35:40
  >> that so get going back to that whole
• 35:42
  team playing for the crest
• 35:44
  >> that's what fury was doing building the
• 35:46
  crest not being included down there
• 35:49
  doesn't mean you're not part of the team
• 35:50
  all right but when you bring it's like
• 35:52
  being made you're you know you're going
• 35:54
  down and the guy called me up the
• 35:56
  importance of that going back to that
• 35:58
  crest not name.
• 35:59
  >> I I tell you this
• 36:00
  >> was an amazing man.
• 36:01
  >> I when I was young, I didn't want to
• 36:04
  hang out with the other young guys on
• 36:05
  our team. Although I was always like the
• 36:06
  youngest guy and maybe that
• 36:08
  >> I always force myself to hang out with
• 36:10
  the older guys. I would want to hang
• 36:12
  out. What are you guys doing? Like the
• 36:14
  guy the young guys don't know anything
• 36:15
  about New Jersey. They don't know where
• 36:17
  to go. They don't know the deli guy.
• 36:19
  They don't know where to go to New York.
• 36:20
  Why am I What's Marty doing? What's you
• 36:23
  know getting dressed?
• 36:26
  Seriously, what's Colin White doing?
• 36:28
  What's Langen Burner doing? No, I want
• 36:30
  to hang with you guys. Like, just can I
• 36:32
  tag along with you and and Mavichuk and
• 36:34
  all those guys and um you know that that
• 36:36
  was cool. But I did the same thing when
• 36:38
  I was playing for the Blues. I would
• 36:39
  take all the young guys everywhere. I
• 36:41
  would take them.
• 36:42
  >> The coaches didn't want that.
• 36:43
  >> I would I would take all these young
• 36:46
  guys to Harry's and have them spend
• 36:47
  night at my house. I brought Reaver out
• 36:49
  to my house one time and I showed him
• 36:51
  all my hockey fights. He made him watch
• 36:54
  >> I made him watch my hockey fight tapes
• 36:57
  all night drinking his sneezing the
• 36:59
  whole time cuz of my little kitty cat I
• 37:00
  had. He was allergic and then he goes TO
• 37:03
  BED AT 4:00. HE GOES TO BED AT 4:00 in
• 37:05
  the morning in my brother's room and uh
• 37:08
  and uh he gets called 6:00 in the
• 37:09
  morning. He got sent down and right
• 37:11
  afterwards
• 37:14
  and then he you know a year later he
• 37:15
  took my job. So it's all good.
• 37:17
  >> So I got a great Grant Fear story. It's
• 37:20
  a funny one. one to to put a ball on.
• 37:23
  One of the greatest human beings ever.
• 37:24
  Love fury. As a young defenseman, it was
• 37:27
  a blessing to have a guy like that
• 37:28
  because he make mistakes and the puck
• 37:30
  ends up in the back of the net.
• 37:32
  >> And I remember one time passing the puck
• 37:33
  like across the front of the net, got
• 37:36
  whapped down. I think it was Joe Sackic.
• 37:38
  Knocks it down, fires it in the net. I'm
• 37:40
  like, "Oh god." Fears. He goes, "Yeah,
• 37:42
  terrible pass." He goes, "I probably
• 37:44
  should HAVE HAD THAT."
• 37:46
  AND I'M LIKE, "OH." He goes, "Don't
• 37:48
  worry about it, kid. I'll get you next
• 37:49
  time."
• 37:49
  >> Yeah. But this one story, we're in
• 37:52
  Philadelphia. I think both of you are on
• 37:55
  the team at the time. Jamie McClennon is
• 37:57
  our backup goal.
• 37:58
  >> Well, I was there. I was there during
• 37:59
  the entire time. FY.
• 38:01
  >> So, Fuzzy had brand new pads. Just to
• 38:03
  set the the story straight, he had brand
• 38:05
  new pads delivered that morning to the
• 38:07
  rink. Giant just big white pillows. And
• 38:10
  Fury wore those like hip high pads way
• 38:12
  back in the day.
• 38:12
  >> Oh, right to the nipples.
• 38:14
  >> And he goes right into the pads like
• 38:16
  most goalies like they got to break them
• 38:18
  in. He gets in the pads. He goes out for
• 38:20
  pregame skate. No problem. Noodles Jamie
• 38:22
  Mlennon is starting that night. So Fury
• 38:25
  wears the brand new pads for the game.
• 38:28
  Noodles playing a great game. Halfway
• 38:30
  through the second period, uh Noodles
• 38:32
  cramps up and he he hits the turf.
• 38:35
  >> Oh, I remember that.
• 38:36
  >> And he's like, "What the hell?" Like we
• 38:38
  didn't know what's going on. Like what
• 38:39
  happened to Noodles? You know,
• 38:40
  >> well Fury at the time when he was
• 38:43
  backing up, he'd have a bunch of like
• 38:45
  chips and coke and stuff like on the
• 38:46
  bench. He was eating stuff. a picnic.
• 38:49
  >> Yeah. Like on the bench,
• 38:50
  >> hot dog, nachos, like you name it. The
• 38:52
  like roofer would be going to get him
• 38:54
  like all this stuff. So anyways, Fury
• 38:57
  Ray goes out on the ice. Noodles is like
• 39:00
  can't even move. They're like it's like
• 39:01
  a body just pushing like weekend at
• 39:03
  Bernie's as he put him off the ice. So
• 39:06
  Fury has to go in. Fury brand new pads,
• 39:09
  but he doesn't care. You know, it's
• 39:10
  Grant Fear. He doesn't give a [ __ ] So
• 39:11
  he goes out there and like the first
• 39:12
  place guy comes down, you know, the
• 39:14
  Grant Fear, the glove save, you know. HE
• 39:16
  GOES DOWN, GLOVES. AH, AND HE keels over
• 39:19
  like, "Oh [ __ ] there goes another
• 39:21
  goalie." Like, "What are we going to
• 39:22
  do?" Ray's in the room with with with
• 39:24
  noodles. Jeff Cop, weird, who was our
• 39:27
  massage guy.
• 39:28
  >> He's the only one close enough to being
• 39:30
  like a first aid person. He like looks
• 39:33
  and it was Kenan, I think. Kenan, well,
• 39:35
  GET THE [ __ ] OUT THERE.
• 39:38
  >> SO, Copy's like running out there. He's
• 39:39
  like, "What am I going to do? MASSAGE
• 39:40
  THIS GUY?" LIKE ON THE ICE and he and
• 39:44
  for everybody he did look like weird
• 39:46
  Yankee looked identical
• 39:47
  >> and smelled like him
• 39:48
  >> a little bit. Yeah. Really nice guy in
• 39:51
  the room.
• 39:51
  >> So Fury's rolling around on the ice for
• 39:53
  a little bit. Kobe goes out there and
• 39:56
  like a minute and a half to two minutes
• 39:57
  later Fiery's okay.
• 39:59
  >> Cope comes back to the bench goes he's
• 40:01
  good.
• 40:02
  Okay. So then the period ends and we go
• 40:05
  in to the locker room and Fury goes into
• 40:09
  the training room and he asks for a
• 40:11
  little bag of ice and he undoes the top
• 40:14
  strap of his pads or whatever and he
• 40:15
  puts it on his knee. I'm like, "Oh, [ __ ]
• 40:17
  your knee, man." He's like, "Yeah." And
• 40:19
  he pulls the ice back. There is a
• 40:22
  circle, perfect circle that is swollen
• 40:26
  and red and like what? He forgot when he
• 40:29
  was eating stuff on the bench, he had a
• 40:31
  jawbreaker in his pad. He slid it. HE
• 40:35
  >> SLID IT UNDERNEATH HIS PAD. HE FORGOT.
• 40:37
  AND THEN WHEN HE WENT DOWN, HE LANDED
• 40:38
  HIS KNEE on top of the jawbreaker.
• 40:40
  THAT'S HE'S LIKE, "THAT'S SO GOOD."
• 40:43
  >> SO KEENAN'S LIKE, "WHAT HAPPENED?" AND
• 40:45
  HE'S LIKE, "I JUST TWEAK SOMETHING.
• 40:47
  WE'RE GOOD."
• 40:50
  >> Lucky he didn't get pulled like five
• 40:51
  times in a row in every city when he
• 40:54
  didn't play.
• 40:55
  >> He was unbelievable.
• 40:56
  >> Except for that season that he played 79
• 40:58
  great games.
• 40:59
  >> Yeah. Bruce Rene got one start that
• 41:00
  year.
• 41:01
  >> That was it. One start. We're in We're
• 41:03
  in Toronto in the old Toronto. Remember
• 41:05
  the old Toronto where you literally the
• 41:07
  the the backup goalender was literally
• 41:09
  in the seat in the
• 41:10
  >> So was the So was the six defenseman.
• 41:12
  Trust me. I'm sitting like this.
• 41:15
  >> The glass is here. So the bench is no
• 41:17
  longer I'm actually in the crowd next to
• 41:19
  the guy. Hey, how are you?
• 41:20
  >> So I'm not playing. I'm I'm dressed.
• 41:23
  >> But you need to leave all the room for
• 41:25
  everybody in the bench. So there's no
• 41:26
  point. You can't put the grocery stick
• 41:28
  there.
• 41:28
  >> So there's no grocery stick. I'm sitting
• 41:30
  I'm sitting beside Fuzzy
• 41:32
  >> and I you know first period go and I'm
• 41:33
  starving. I go fury we got to get some
• 41:35
  food for the second period and he goes I
• 41:38
  got some coming. I go really he goes I
• 41:39
  got your dog. So seriously we got second
• 41:42
  period now know chefs no nothing. You
• 41:45
  know it's about 5 minutes in. He goes
• 41:47
  should be coming and there's a guy comes
• 41:50
  down delivers the food.
• 41:52
  >> Well feed in Toronto before he played
• 41:54
  for us in context.
• 41:55
  >> Yeah. So you know you pay for go no it's
• 41:57
  all taken care of. So, he's got we've
• 41:59
  got a soda,
• 42:01
  cheesy nachos, and two two hot dogs.
• 42:04
  Now, I'm looking I'm trying to eat this
• 42:07
  dog, and Fuse just we don't give a [ __ ]
• 42:10
  No.
• 42:10
  >> Oh, sure enough, right up in the
• 42:11
  jumbotron, there's me and F.
• 42:14
  I'm like this.
• 42:17
  >> Oh, [ __ ] Good thing it wasn't TV
• 42:19
  timeout.
• 42:20
  >> Oh my god. Oh my god.
• 42:21
  >> Oh, you would have got nowadays. [ __ ]
• 42:24
  You couldn't do that
• 42:25
  >> in Toronto. He still works there. His
• 42:27
  name's Craig. He was like the usher/se
• 42:30
  security outside the locker room. They
• 42:32
  wear the suit and tie in Toronto. Well,
• 42:35
  started Maple Leaf Garden and then it's
• 42:37
  now it's the Air Canada Center. I don't
• 42:38
  know what it is. Let's go. It's changed
• 42:40
  name. So, the rink in Toronto. Now, I
• 42:42
  was playing for the Senators at the
• 42:44
  time. And when I signed with the
• 42:46
  Senators, they had a bunch of injuries.
• 42:48
  So, I played a ton at the beginning of
• 42:50
  the season and then as guys came back, I
• 42:51
  started playing less and less and they
• 42:53
  end up being like a healthy scratch like
• 42:54
  20 games in a row or whatever. In those
• 42:56
  20 games, we had a bunch of games
• 42:57
  against Maple Leafs. And every time I go
• 42:59
  in there, Craig, who worked the locker
• 43:01
  room, I'd be like, "Hey, Craig, I'm
• 43:02
  gonna get a workout and ride the bike."
• 43:03
  And then they had sushi at the rink. I'm
• 43:06
  like, "Can you get me some sushi?" And
• 43:07
  he's like, "Oh, yeah, yeah." So he'd go
• 43:08
  get me some food and it became like my
• 43:10
  buddy. So then the next year I go into
• 43:14
  Toronto. I'm playing for the Bruins at
• 43:16
  this time. And uh Billy Garren is with
• 43:19
  me. We're walking in and Craig is like
• 43:21
  says, "Jamie, how are you?" One of the
• 43:23
  nicest humans ever. I go, "I'm doing
• 43:25
  good." He goes, "Hey, NEED THAT FOOD
• 43:27
  TONIGHT?" I GO, "NO, CRAIG, I GET TO
• 43:30
  PLAY THIS."
• 43:33
  >> That's great.
• 43:33
  >> AND HE WAS LIKE, "OH, that's great."
• 43:35
  >> Those guys are all good dudes in Even
• 43:37
  the ones at Enterprise Center, man.
• 43:39
  They're all just
• 43:39
  >> everybody's awesome.
• 43:40
  >> They're They're at every game. They're
• 43:42
  >> Letter Kenny, one of the I love Letter
• 43:44
  Kenny. Now one of the great episodes
• 43:46
  which I believe a lot of us you know
• 43:50
  when we played did learned the guys in
• 43:53
  the rink. I knew everybody who ran the
• 43:55
  Zamboni,
• 43:56
  >> you know, went after practice and
• 43:58
  visited the guys in the janitori I knew
• 44:01
  everybody.
• 44:02
  >> Not everybody. Of course, I'm getting
• 44:04
  bag dragged cuz I wasn't playing a whole
• 44:06
  bunch, but I got a chance after meet
• 44:08
  everybody. Shake hands. And do you know
• 44:11
  to that day, it's still carries the
• 44:12
  guys.
• 44:13
  >> Absolutely.
• 44:13
  >> I mean, some we walk in
• 44:15
  >> being a good person. That's nothing. By
• 44:17
  the way,
• 44:17
  >> walk in, high five all the security.
• 44:19
  What's that? What's your emblem? Because
• 44:22
  every one of those guys I'm playing for
• 44:24
  I gave a lot of the barbecue sauce away.
• 44:26
  This one they they want to you know
• 44:27
  they're always have any camp.
• 44:32
  I'm telling you
• 44:34
  >> they're asking for the fist of fire,
• 44:36
  baby.
• 44:37
  >> All right, guys. Hey, that's episode
• 44:39
  five. You got some Shy is carrying that
• 44:41
  on in the show, right? Did the same
• 44:43
  exact thing.
• 44:44
  >> That's exactly That's what I'm saying.
• 44:45
  Shy did the same thing. Maybe it was not
• 44:47
  Letter Kenny. Maybe
• 44:49
  >> that that to me that's again going back
• 44:51
  to the team, right? just because you're
• 44:53
  not wearing a jersey. The people in the
• 44:55
  office, the people that are that are
• 44:57
  that are cleaning the ice, you know how
• 44:59
  important it is to clean the ice, right?
• 45:00
  How important. We're in Calgary and
• 45:02
  Edmonton, they'd adjust the fl the
• 45:03
  temperature of the ice depending who
• 45:04
  they're playing. I mean, I don't know if
• 45:06
  that still goes on, but that that was
• 45:08
  real. It was a fast team. Make that just
• 45:11
  a little more sludgy. It was if it was
• 45:13
  a, you know, a team that you could out
• 45:15
  skate.
• 45:15
  >> I think we tried to do that to the Red.
• 45:17
  >> Didn't work out. I don't think you do
• 45:19
  that anymore.
• 45:19
  >> So damn soft. I got you in my slush.
• 45:23
  >> I have one quick thing on that.
• 45:25
  >> We're in the playoffs. Scotty Bowman,
• 45:27
  Coach Keenan,
• 45:28
  >> this is going to be quick.
• 45:30
  >> We get in, the lights are off. I don't
• 45:32
  know. You were You were
• 45:32
  >> I was on that team.
• 45:33
  >> The lights are off. Okay. It's a pregame
• 45:35
  skate, right?
• 45:36
  >> Yeah.
• 45:37
  >> Lights are off. We can't turn the lights
• 45:39
  on. Why? Cuz it's a union shop. We can't
• 45:42
  turn one light on. We have to wait for
• 45:45
  the union to come down. Oh, no. It gets
• 45:48
  better. To turn the lights on. They have
• 45:50
  no idea.
• 45:51
  >> Turn the lights on. We're waiting for
• 45:52
  like 15, 20 minutes. I mean, literally
• 45:54
  can't turn a light on in the in the
• 45:56
  dressing room. They got a union guy, a
• 45:58
  rep waiting for the union guy. Can't
• 46:00
  touch it.
• 46:01
  >> Okay, cut the lights on. Perfect.
• 46:03
  Getting dressed. Whatever. The game
• 46:05
  clock is on top is on the ice. They drop
• 46:07
  the clock. All right, it's our turn to
• 46:09
  skate.
• 46:10
  >> Um, yeah, we can't we got to wait for
• 46:12
  the union to do that.
• 46:13
  >> Yeah.
• 46:13
  >> Another 10, 15, 20 minutes for the
• 46:16
  Glock. We're We're just waiting to
• 46:17
  skate. All right. And I'm thinking
• 46:20
  Scotty Bowman's a genius.
• 46:22
  >> He does. Every year in the playoffs,
• 46:24
  we'd go in there for game one in Detroit
• 46:26
  and freshly painted room.
• 46:28
  >> Oh yeah.
• 46:29
  >> So you'd have the paint fumes, you have
• 46:30
  a headache, you know, you'd have like
• 46:32
  seven towels, no hot water, one bar of
• 46:35
  soap, like whatever he could do to make
• 46:38
  your life miserable or get you off your
• 46:39
  game.
• 46:40
  >> To think about him, not the game. That's
• 46:42
  it.
• 46:42
  >> Crank the heat.
• 46:43
  >> Yeah, crank the heat. Hot room, but no
• 46:45
  hot water. Old Joe Lewis was not easy to
• 46:48
  I mean the showers were like they had
• 46:50
  the prison showers one stream like
• 46:53
  >> like five guys in a circle.
• 46:55
  >> Oh, it's so got awful.
• 46:56
  >> They had Little Caesar.
• 46:58
  >> They had pizza. You damn right.
• 47:01
  >> There we go, baby. Simple
• 47:04
  scratch in Detroit all the time. I'm
• 47:06
  like,
• 47:07
  >> uh, sorry guys, I got hungry before I
• 47:09
  got in the room. Sorry. Two pizzas.
• 47:13
  >> See you later. If you like Joe Lewis, if
• 47:15
  you played for the Red Wings,
• 47:17
  >> life was unbelievable.
• 47:18
  >> Yeah. It's honestly one of the greatest
• 47:20
  experiences I had in my life was being a
• 47:22
  Detroit Redwing. Mike Illich was an
• 47:24
  unbelievable owner. Uh he treated every
• 47:28
  player like they were a Hall of Famer.
• 47:29
  All the Hall of Famers treated every
• 47:31
  player like they were equal. Well,
• 47:32
  because most of them were Hall of Famers
• 47:34
  anyways, but even guys like me, like it
• 47:36
  was like you see the lights here, you
• 47:38
  know, they had the the one bulb and I
• 47:41
  sat next to I sat next to Nick
• 47:43
  Lindstrom, Steve Iman, no big deal.
• 47:46
  >> But Stevie was over here and one day
• 47:49
  like life was good at this point. I'm
• 47:50
  playing a lot playing like 15 16 minutes
• 47:52
  a game on the Red Wings. That's a lot.
• 47:54
  >> And uh I got on my stool and I went up
• 47:57
  into the ceiling and I took the light
• 47:58
  out that was like above my thing. Stevie
• 48:01
  goes, "What are you doing?" I go,
• 48:04
  "Stevie, shh." I go, "If they don't know
• 48:06
  I'm here, they can't send me down or
• 48:08
  train." So, our corner was like dark.
• 48:13
  >> And I remember when I did finally get
• 48:15
  trained like two or three years later,
• 48:17
  two years later,
• 48:18
  >> uh the trainer, uh Paul Boyer, the
• 48:21
  equipment guy, he went to put the light
• 48:22
  back in. Stevie goes, "No, no, leave it
• 48:24
  out. I like a dark room."
• 48:26
  >> That's good.
• 48:27
  >> Stevie. Stevie. Wow.
• 48:28
  >> He had a tough time. He uh he was my
• 48:31
  favorite player growing up. One of the
• 48:32
  greatest ever Gretzky and Lemieux are
• 48:35
  the ones winning everything, but Steve
• 48:36
  Eisermanman had the worst team in
• 48:37
  Detroit. Won the Lester B. Pearson
• 48:39
  award, 155 points. He was second in the
• 48:41
  NHL. I think Gretzky had like 212 or
• 48:44
  something that year. I think Gretzky had
• 48:46
  163 assists and Eisermanman was second
• 48:48
  in the league with 155 points. But I
• 48:51
  just loved him because he was just kind
• 48:52
  of that guy. I didn't cheer for teams. I
• 48:54
  cheered for him. So, my sixth, seventh
• 48:56
  game in the NHL, we're I get my first
• 48:59
  shift and he's taking the face off in
• 49:01
  the defensive zone and I don't know what
• 49:03
  I was looking like, but it had to have
• 49:05
  been pretty cheesy because I'm on my
• 49:07
  thing and he's like getting ready for
• 49:08
  the face off and he looks over and I
• 49:10
  must have been like
• 49:11
  >> and he goes, he looks at me, he's like,
• 49:13
  "How you doing, kid?
• 49:15
  >> Just talk to me. Just talk to me." Uh,
• 49:18
  so yeah, I was like I I uh Holly was on
• 49:21
  the team then and uh
• 49:23
  >> uh I got his uh game you stick that
• 49:26
  guess.
• 49:26
  >> That's awesome.
• 49:27
  >> My first game against Steve Eisermanman
• 49:28
  and I still got to stick it home.
• 49:29
  >> Still got stick took the tape off,
• 49:31
  signed big across the bottom of the
• 49:32
  blade.
• 49:33
  >> Stevie was awesome as a teammate. Uh I
• 49:35
  remember going in there
• 49:37
  >> for it be a short one here. my very
• 49:38
  first training camp as a Redwing and I
• 49:40
  played for the Blues and you know he he
• 49:42
  spent years trying to murder all these
• 49:44
  guys especially like Draper and Malpy
• 49:46
  and those guys and I knew Stevie from
• 49:48
  growing up. He's about seven years older
• 49:50
  than me from Ottawa and uh so I go in
• 49:52
  that first day. It's a little weird at
• 49:54
  first because guys are like guys are
• 49:55
  cool but they're like you know don't
• 49:57
  know this guy
• 49:58
  >> not sure this guy's like speared me like
• 50:00
  27 times not sure
• 50:02
  >> and so Stevie grabs me and uh he's like
• 50:05
  hey we're done with the practice. He
• 50:07
  goes, "Uh, come with me." I said, "Okay,
• 50:09
  cool." So, we're up in Traverse City.
• 50:11
  So, we always do our training camps and
• 50:13
  and so after the skate, I go see Steve.
• 50:15
  He's like, "All right, come on." And we
• 50:16
  go back up. We we're going to play golf.
• 50:18
  I didn't know that. Go play golf with
• 50:19
  all the other guys like like the the
• 50:21
  teammates, the real guys. And he
• 50:23
  introduced me to everybody. We played
• 50:25
  golf, had beers, and like after that,
• 50:27
  everything was great.
• 50:28
  >> But, uh, he was like a true leader. true
• 50:31
  leader brought me into the group. Knew I
• 50:33
  was going to be a part of it and he was
• 50:34
  like, "Okay, we got to
• 50:36
  >> we got some things here." Apparently, we
• 50:37
  need to get through this.
• 50:38
  >> Integrated you.
• 50:39
  >> Yeah. Yeah, he did. It was awesome.
• 50:41
  >> Gave his endorsement.
• 50:42
  >> Yep.
• 50:42
  >> That only takes one.
• 50:44
  >> So, good guy.
• 50:45
  >> Good show today, boys. Dan, before we
• 50:47
  say goodbye, I think we all should just
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