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A Conversation Between John Ortberg and John Mark Comer (Part 1)
What is my shadow mission?
In this episode, join John Mark Comer and John Ortberg as they explore the possibilities and pitfalls in the pastoral vocation. They discuss the dangers of over-relying on giftedness, the importance of detaching from outcomes, and the power of identifying what John refers to as a "shadow mission"— what your life could be if it veers just a few degrees off course. This session was held at the Practicing the Way Pastor Conference in Los Angeles, California, in 2026.
John Ortberg is a pastor, author, and speaker. He’s been in ministry for over 40 years and…
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