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Offseason SZN · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts right now. Welcome back to The Three O Take
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  presented by C Geek. This is Episode 401.
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  I'll be your host, Kyle Corden. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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  Reyes Nates. We back, dog, we back.
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  Cool. It's a little.
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  Good little. Vacation 17 days.
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  Little vacay, maybe. Maybe someone's listening to us
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  for the first time, so maybe they didn't even realize we were
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  on vacation. That's true that.
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  'D be cool if this is. Your first time welcome.
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  This is, we're about at that. Like, we're at that.
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  Like, all right, I'm kind of missing baseball pretty hard
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  right now. You know, three weeks.
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  I think after like, post Thanksgiving, I'm going to
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  really feel it, 'cause, you know, when you, like, start
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  getting your Christmas wish list, you're like, I kind, I
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  kind of want that hoodie or something like that for
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  Christmas. And that's where you're like,
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  Dang, I miss baseball. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So we're right there.
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  So if you're new, welcome. What's up?
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  Yeah. If you're new, welcome.
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  Like I said, if this your first time, glad to have you if this
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  is your second episode and you're going.
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  Do you guys just drop an episode every 1718 days?
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  No, that's that's not how we do things.
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  But as as we mentioned last episode, just needed to go into
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  into shutdown mode. We get to the end of the
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  postseason, It's pretty predictable.
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  We get to the end of the postseason and.
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  It's never really different year to year.
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  It's pretty much the same. We're like, OK, let's let's bag
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  it for a couple weeks and we'll come back out on the other side
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  and here we are and boy, have we missed a lot.
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  Like, I know, I know the the Hot Stove hasn't exactly been in
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  Fuego, but there's been a lot. Going on, I don't remember this
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  much going on in in off seasons past.
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  Maybe some of our listeners are like that's what you said last
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  year, but I have no idea. This seems like a lot.
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  Yeah, I mean for not having much happening on the player
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  personnel side, yeah, a lot of me, I mean to be fair, we, it's
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  been 17 days. So some of this stuff is has has
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  some of this news has been broken for some time now, yeah.
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  We're not going tonight, that's for sure, but.
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  We're going to, we're going to revisit some of the things we
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  missed. We're going to talk about heck
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  some things that have happened in the last couple days.
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  And we're going to get you caught back up to speed because
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  quite honestly there's probably a lot of you out there listening
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  that followed suit and checked out for the last two to three
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  weeks like us, so. Sometimes you need to so it's
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  you respect it. It's possible you need.
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  You need a refresher as well, so it's good to be back.
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  Got a lot to get into right off the top.
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  Let's let's dive into some of these manager, can you say
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  acquisitions? Like is that the right word to
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  use when describing managers? Signing sounds weird too.
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  Can't say trades although. I mean hiring or is that just?
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  Manager hirings. Yeah, I guess that's the obvious
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  one that I just completely whiffed on.
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  Yeah, hirings is probably safe hiring firing if we're talking
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  Cubs. That was a a wild scene.
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  We'll get into that. But I want, I want to start off
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  with the guy that I think everybody was excited to hear on
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  the move. Except maybe Braves fans.
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  But the rest of the baseball world?
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  Ron Washington, the new manager of the Los Angeles Anaheim
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  Angels of Anaheim, LA. California.
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  California. The oldest manager in baseball,
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  71 years old. I'm just going to say it.
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  I I think I've said before, actually, I didn't want to see
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  this guy manage it, manage it. I.
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  Didn't. I didn't want to see this team.
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  No, definitely not the Angels of Anaheim, LA, California.
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  I don't get it. I don't get it.
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  I I don't get him leaving. I don't see why he would.
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  I think he got it made in the shade because you're a fan
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  favorite in Atlanta. You just work with infielders
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  and you get the arm loose, sending guys home.
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  So, like, why? What's the?
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  And I understand maybe like this was last time managed.
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  Maybe left a poor taste in his mouth.
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  So maybe he's got a little redemption tour, but still the
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  angels. I I mean, to be fair, can you
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  see him in a in a a spot like San Diego?
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  No. Probably not.
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  And if you're listening, you're probably going, how does why
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  wouldn't he fit in San Diego? The guy is nothing but fun.
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  That's all San Diego is. Yeah, but he's not going to be
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  an infield coach. Yeah.
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  If he were to be in San Diego, like he's going to have to be
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  the guy calling the shots, making the tough decisions and a
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  place like San Diego is not not a good fit.
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  But on the flip? Side I wonder if 71's too old,
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  by the way. No, man, I'm all, I'm here for
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  it. I'm here for this reverse trend,
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  getting all the old guys in here.
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  I hear it. I'm just trying to picture
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  myself at 71. I'm creeping up on 31 and I
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  don't think I can hang on with that schedule.
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  I would not be able to hang, just sleep in hotels for half
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  the month. Uh huh.
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  Be on a plane half the month. I just got off a plane this
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  morning. I'm ready to fight.
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  I'm ready to throw down. Airports you had it made in the
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  shade. That's what I'm saying, though
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  on the flip side, he's probably looking at this going My options
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  at this point in time are limited.
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  If LA is the only team that's that's calling for my name here,
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  I'm running out of time because I'm 71.
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  This might just be as as good as it gets for me.
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  It's true. I just would have loved to have
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  seen him gone out with with the Braves, just happy as a clam,
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  just doing his, doing his, his two knee infield drills before
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  the games. I needed that.
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  I needed that. You best believe Anthony Rendon
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  hate doing any, any, any field work pregame with Ronnie Wash.
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  I'll tell you what Anthony Rendon will do whatever Ron
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  Washington says. I don't care how many Oakland A
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  fans he grabs by the shirt collar, he's going to do what
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  Ron Washington says. Do you like the fit?
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  I I don't understand. It on either side.
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  I don't understand on either side to be honest.
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  I don't and and a lot of what I was reading was saying that
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  they're bringing wash in for this, you know, assumed.
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  Rebuild because you you assume Shohei is gone.
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  The rum, the the rumblings of trout leaving have never been
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  stronger, right? So you can you can assume at
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  some point over the next, can I say calendar year gone.
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  That I don't get like why I I know I'm not going to keep like
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  harping on the edge, but like at the same time 71 and then.
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  Your next window is nowhere near, like it's not in the near
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  future. It's.
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  I would say it's pretty distant. Yeah, I I mean, you people like
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  you and me, and probably the majority of other baseball fans
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  can agree with that point. But if you're the Angels, if
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  you're looking at this optimistically and you're trying
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  to convey a message of it's right around the corner to your
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  fans, maybe bringing in a guy like Ron Washington isn't
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  necessarily a bad idea. Because you're going.
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  If, that's the message if. We're right.
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  That's a big if. But you know, if we are a few
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  years away, let's get a guy that's not going to be here much
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  longer anyway because he's not going to want to be here,
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  because he's going to retire because he's 71, Then at that
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  point we shift gears. We shift our focus to finding
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  our next Brandon Hyde, or whoever that may be.
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  See, that's what I was thinking for Phil Nevin.
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  Like, you might as well let him be the Brandon Hyde.
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  Let him. He's going to be there.
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  Or David Ross, he's going to be there and just ride it out
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  through the thin times because like Phil Nevin, it's his first
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  managerial job, yeah, And he's young enough to stick around and
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  you can like. Mold.
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  You can almost kind of mold this manager how you want the
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  organization to be managed. Not that they have any clue how
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  to do any of that clearly, but at least you could kind of do
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  that with a first time manager. You're not doing any of that
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  with Ron Washington. And like you said, by the time
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  the window shows up, a dude's going to be in a home getting
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  his butt wiped. So.
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  I mean. I'm not going to sit.
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  Here, they're not put, they're not putting my man Ron
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  Washington in a home. He's going out on his own, but
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  he's not wiping out. No, no, no, no.
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  He's going out on his own terms. I don't care what anybody says.
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  Don't disrespect my man Ron like that.
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  Don't disrespect my man, Ron. 71 year old version is is the man
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  78 year old version by the time. They steal the man.
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  In the hunt. Still the man.
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  He can be the man not wiping his own butt.
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  That's what it's going to be like.
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  But that's one T, not 2. It's going to be like this
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  today. I would just say that Phil Nevin
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  kind of checked both boxes. You have a guy that's going to
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  be loyal to you because, like, you gave him his first
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  managerial job and you can write it out and like, create this
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  Brandon Hyde Effect. Yeah, but like, as much as we
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  like to to rail on the the Angels, you know, it's no
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  different than you. You applying to a new job,
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  you're there for like a year or two or or however long Nevin
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  would maybe have been there had they not hired Ron Washington
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  and then you get to the end of it.
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  Maybe the way they just handled it were like, yeah, you know we
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  don't really like this fit. Let's, let's.
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  That's fine too. That's fine.
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  I mean just because the very least.
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  Just because he fits the mold like you're saying fits that
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  mold on paper, they it may just not be a good mutual fit I.
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  Don't then the Then the only thing I can think of is the fact
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  that what you're saying is they're they're not punting and
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  they're going to try and prove everyone wrong and continue to
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  spend money poorly and in the wrong areas and they're going to
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  continue to fall short, But at the very least they're going to
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  bring in names to try to get the the seats filled.
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  So. Seats.
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  When was the last time that tick came out?
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  18 days. The people know.
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  People know Steven Vogt. Do you like it?
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  Do you not like it? Well, let me say this, I know
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  you're big. You're you're very big on having
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  catchers. Yeah, that's where I was going
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  to go. Fill the spot.
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  Exactly where I was going. To go the 14th former catcher
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  among big league managers right now.
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  I love it. I love it.
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  I think they're the smartest students on the field.
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  They're the most tapped in, and I think I do.
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  He does kind of come off like he like when you look at him,
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  you're like you look pretty Ohio.
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  I don't know what it is about him, but but he does, you know,
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  just slap me over a casserole in in a Midwestern belly.
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  That's kind of how I see him. So I like that aspect to it.
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  Is Ohio technically Midwest? Kind of.
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  Ohio is like very country. Oh yeah, very much Midwest.
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  Yeah get over there with the Wisconsin's and stuff.
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  I just, I've never been able to figure out Cleveland.
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  I never understand them. They they do certain moves where
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  you think like they're they're going to start to build and and
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  go in the right direction and then they kind of do what they
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  did this year and. Hanging out at the bottom of the
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  division, it's like I I just, I don't, I don't fully understand
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  them. They don't make sense to me.
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  So here's what we do now. Obvious former catcher hired him
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  to a The Guardians hired him. Hired him to a three-year deal.
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  He's 39. He's coming in to replace Tito
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  and last year served as the bullpen and quality control
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  coach for the Seattle Mariners. Very likable guy.
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  I I like him a lot. Like I I'm a fan.
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  I'm a fan of the way he played and and the way he he was just I
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  I he seemed like a good dude seemed like a good clubhouse
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  guy. So I bet he's going to be very
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  solid. I just, I I'm perplexed on on
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  the Cleveland Guardian side of things because it's like I at
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  what point are, I mean are we just going to continue to waste
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  Jay Ram's? Prime Or are we going to like
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  double down and try to build a little bit and get after it?
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  Well, I mean, I don't know if I hear what you're saying, but I
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  don't know if it's the manager decision that's that's.
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  Either wasting or not wasting, I mean, because look who they who
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  they just had at the helm. And Silk can really do anything
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  with it. And yeah, but it's not.
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  And that's not taking anything away from Tito Tito's.
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  Elected, but Tito's basically part time for the last year,
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  year and a half. So yeah, but I think it.
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  Which has its own complications and and difficulties.
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  I just, I don't see, I don't see the we're trying to get over the
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  hump and then you hire. A 39 year old manager.
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  I I do want to get your take when we've kind of gone through
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  this list here and get your take for which of these hirings
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  excites you the most, but I just want to.
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  I'm struggling right now. Yeah, I just want.
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  To throw out a little teaser that low key, this might be like
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  a dark horse for me. That's it.
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  I could. I like I honestly I didn't even
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  think about it until you mentioned it because I was
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  thinking it excited me for other reasons.
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  But you mentioned the whole he just fits the whole Ohio thing
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  that that just kind of adds to it for me.
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  But I I think this could potentially be with for a
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  three-year deal. I think this could potentially
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  this could work out. I I like the move, I do.
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  The move I wanted to really get your take on that, We kind of
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  already teased already, Craig, counsel to the Cubs, Shocks the
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  entire baseball world. Yeah.
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  Shocks David Ross, I'm sure. I I mean, I don't know if I'm in
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  the majority here. I probably am.
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  I think this is probably my favorite.
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  I think Craig counsel's. The top tier manager, I would
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  give him top five in baseball, like running top five manager in
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  baseball right now. So I love it.
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  I thought even with like when the Mets rumors were kind of
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  swirling around a little bit and I didn't even realize we never
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  talked about it. I never realized that Milwaukee
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  would just be like, yeah, feel free, go shop around a little
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  bit. Yeah, that's such a weird thing
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  to me. I hate that you hear this all
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  the time where team, which I mean I can respect like teams
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  have to like if they're interested, you have to kind of
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  inquire with the other team. I I understand that.
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  But on on the other end, all these teams just be like, yeah,
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  go ahead, talk to the guy. It's I don't get whatever, Yeah,
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  I don't get it. Tell me how that's tell me how
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  that marriage like I was literally just about to say.
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  Tell me how that's any different from a personal relationship
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  with somebody like it makes no sense yet Go.
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  Ahead, babe. I don't.
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  I don't know yet. I don't know yet.
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  I just, I got to. I got to go spread my wings.
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  That's like that's basically what Bob Melvin just did.
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  Such a weird. And dynamic Craig counsel.
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  And so it is weird, but I thought wherever Craig went, as
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  soon as that rumor came out and I was like if he is leaving.
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  Whatever team gets him, I think is going to be in really, really
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  good shape. And I think there's something
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  about if we were to kind of use like Phil Nevin as that, like,
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  hey, let's ride you out through the rough times, you keep the
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  fans happy kind of kind of guy. And then if we start to get to
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  that point where like, all right, we're about to get really
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  good. We got to go get somebody that
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  knows what he's doing. And so I think that whatever
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  success that's going to come in the near future for the Cubs, I
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  think David Ross deserves a lot, a lot of credit.
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  A lot of credit. Even though I think Craig
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  Counsel is a guy that can manage circles around pretty much most
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  of the league. I just want to go on record as
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  saying when people ask me why I don't want Jason Vertec to ever
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  be the manager of the Boston Red Sox.
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  It's for this exact reason because.
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  Say what you want, Cubs fans can say what they want, but it's
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  hard to look at David Ross through the same lens now.
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  Sure is. Given that he was essentially
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  fired from his position as manager of the Cubs, like you
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  can still look at him as a guy that you, that you love and all
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  that. I don't know why.
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  Why are we gonna pop up on our screen?
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  Cool. Yeah.
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  Why are we doing? Weird stuff going last time too.
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  That's crazy. I mean you the.
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  Balloons last time. That's the balloons You can
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  still, you can still love a guy like David Ross if you're a Cubs
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  fan. But it kind of, it kind of
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  muddies it up a little bit. It muddies his legacy when you.
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  I agree. When you look at his Cubs career
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  now, because it you include the manager tenure and that and that
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  as well. But that's OK.
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  You see so many managers that get their first job and then
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  they go be a bench coach or. You know, something like that.
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  And then they take a few years off and then get back into
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  management. I think Ross is going to have a
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  long career. No, I agree.
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  But in both of those examples that I gave you, David Ross,
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  Jason Veritech both played pivotal roles in ending historic
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  curses. So.
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  You never. You wouldn't want to see it end.
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  Yeah, I get what you're saying. But back to what I was
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  originally going to ask you, you you keep mentioning Craig,
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  council being top five. I'm curious who you have.
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  Like that would maybe keep him out of the top three.
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  That's a good question. I think Snit has to be up there.
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  Obviously, Bochy, I would have said Melvin pre San Diego, and I
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  still don't know if I'm ready to blame him for that.
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  He was up there for me. No, man.
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  I can't say Dusty now because he's retired.
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  So they had some, they had some. We we all know they had some
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  Divas in that. Yeah, there's.
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  I can't. I can't blame Melvin for that.
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  All right. I I would probably put Melvin up
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  there, but I don't know you going to put my guy AC up there.
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  Put your bias aside. Look at the baseball.
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  He's close, I would say. Council's better, I would say.
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  Council. Oh no, no, for sure, for sure.
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  I'm just saying like in the in the mix.
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  Yeah, which is my point in that conversation.
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  Quick, are you keeping him out of the top three?
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  Like, I I don't know if I could keep him out of that, if I could
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  keep counsel. You're right.
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  You're right. I mean, I'm struggling.
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  I can't really think of outside of.
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  I mean, Bochi is a lock. Snit is a lock to me.
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  I don't know. You know what I mean?
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  I disagree with you a little bit.
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  I don't know if that's if it's less.
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  I'm not taking anything away from what he's done up to this
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  point. But it it begs the question how
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  much of that is influenced by the talent that they have on
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  that, on that squad versus the managers impacting that, I don't
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  know. As much I don't know, as much as
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  I don't like him and if we are really truly talking about
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  removing bias. I feel like Kevin Cash probably
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  has to be up there in that conversation, but are you
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  putting Kevin? Calculated as that organization
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  is, that's what I'm saying. Are you putting Kevin cash in
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  the top five managers or are you putting the raised front office
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  in the top five managers? Because that's who we're really.
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  That's who we're really working with here.
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  It's a good argument. It's a really good argument.
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  I don't know. I you might be right.
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  I'm trying to think of like the rest of the league, Dusty being.
• 22:12
  Retired kind of hurts my case a little bit I don't know but
• 22:16
  either way Craig council great hire great I think you I think
• 22:21
  you that was a snatch. I mean that was like the doesn't
• 22:25
  go in the trade category or free agent category, but as far as
• 22:29
  like I guess acquisitions or hirings or signings that
• 22:34
  category this is going to be, this is going to be up there.
• 22:39
  I think people are going to forget about it because they're
• 22:40
  going to Add all these free agents landing in spots and
• 22:42
  stuff like that. But this acquisition is going to
• 22:45
  be up there with one of the most important ones.
• 22:50
  I mean, the Cubs had. They had to move quick, I'm
• 22:54
  imagining, to get this done. I would probably, probably bet
• 22:59
  the Well, here's The thing is that wasn't Ross brought in by
• 23:03
  the old GM and the new GM came in let David Ross sit for a
• 23:07
  year, right? Maybe two years might be right.
• 23:18
  We apologize. They're not even crazy Chicago
• 23:21
  Cubs familiarity. I'm sure there's some Cubs fans
• 23:24
  yelling at us right now, but yeah, I think new GM came in and
• 23:27
  didn't want to ruffle too much feathers.
• 23:28
  If you if you come in and and fire a fan favorite immediately,
• 23:33
  then yeah, but I think if you come in, you make some good
• 23:36
  signings like a Dansby and then. You say, hey, we're still
• 23:43
  falling short. I think it's OK that you move
• 23:45
  on, and I'd be excited if I was a Cubs fan.
• 23:48
  I think you should be excited. This is a good chapter Current
• 23:53
  GM Carter Hawkins took over for the 2022 season.
• 23:57
  All right, so there you go. You let Rossi chill for two
• 24:00
  years. I did.
• 24:02
  Did you see that Rizzo was trying to convince Dave Ross to
• 24:06
  come in as a bench coach for the Yankees?
• 24:10
  I would have been so freaking on board, dude.
• 24:14
  I would have been so on board. They're they're rallying to get
• 24:18
  Ross back to Boston. Have a little 2013 reunion
• 24:22
  because I don't know if you saw, but obviously Craig Craig
• 24:24
  Breslow, the new whatever they it's essentially the GM for the
• 24:32
  Sox. They just make positions up.
• 24:33
  Yeah, he he's a 2013 guy they brought back or they made Andrew
• 24:44
  Bailey, the pitching coach put like they snatch him up from San
• 24:47
  Fran. Why not bring?
• 24:50
  Why not bring old David Ross back?
• 24:53
  Koji Riverside likes it Riverside Koji Koji Yuahara was
• 24:59
  in Boston recently. The the whole cruise back get
• 25:02
  get Rossi back in in Boston. I don't hate it either.
• 25:05
  I I think he would be a a great addition no matter where he goes
• 25:09
  in a different role, specifically bench coach.
• 25:12
  Let's just learn a little bit outside of a different
• 25:14
  organization, learn more coaching.
• 25:17
  I'll see you as a manager in four or five years.
• 25:20
  Do you think Do you think Ross takes an abbreviated career
• 25:24
  trajectory as a Ron Washington manager?
• 25:28
  Yeah, Bench coach. Third base coach.
• 25:31
  Something catching coach. Yeah, I back to the helm.
• 25:35
  Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Like I said, Washington's
• 25:39
  careers played out far longer than Ross has at this point.
• 25:43
  But an abbreviated similar path? Yeah, I like it.
• 25:48
  It happened especially. Because he he lasted a while.
• 25:54
  This wasn't like a Brad Osmus in Detroit kind of thing, where it
• 25:58
  was your first, like your first manager job and then.
• 26:01
  You really just got everything but thrown out of town, yeah?
• 26:07
  Then you're not. I think this is.
• 26:08
  I think this is going to be good for him.
• 26:10
  I think he's going to be a good addition.
• 26:11
  He's going to be good. He's still that, like good age
• 26:15
  to be able to connect with the clubhouse and stuff.
• 26:19
  Maybe the Braves bring him in. Who knows?
• 26:21
  I'm about it, guy. We've already mentioned a time
• 26:25
  or two already this episode. Bob Melvin heading back to the
• 26:29
  Bay Wild How the heading back to San Francisco?
• 26:34
  Yeah, how wild was that? Like that article we were just
• 26:39
  talking about before we hopped on that Like Preller doubled
• 26:42
  down on on Melvin and then yeah the first week of October the
• 26:46
  The Associated Press comes in. In fact if you listen to it,
• 26:49
  right. If you listen to this right now
• 26:51
  go ahead and Google because I did it today because I I wanted
• 26:53
  to double check that the Padres like it didn't slide under the
• 26:56
  radar that they'd pick somebody like a a a small like a lesser
• 26:59
  known name up is to be their manager.
• 27:02
  I doubled down so I googled who is and I'll do right now who is
• 27:06
  the Padres manager. All right, you Google that the
• 27:11
  first response that comes up, Bob Melvin, the article is Bob
• 27:16
  Melvin will be back as manager of the big spending San Diego
• 27:19
  Padres following the most disappointing season franchise
• 27:22
  history, General Manager AJ Preller said.
• 27:25
  That's the top result right now on Google.
• 27:29
  This was October 4th. And then when did the hire
• 27:34
  actually officially happened? It couldn't have been but this
• 27:44
  October 25th, 3 weeks. Yeah, and this was similar to
• 27:47
  like the. The weird Soto thing, Not that
• 27:50
  we're going to pull at this thread because we don't really
• 27:52
  have time tonight. We got other stuff to get to,
• 27:54
  but the whole like Soto, absolutely a part of 2024 plans
• 28:00
  and then not two days later. Buster only coming out with like
• 28:04
  100% getting traded and I'm like, what's going on over there
• 28:08
  in Santiago? Yeah, which, you know, I I
• 28:12
  should have mentioned this off the top because I've been
• 28:14
  thinking for the last how many days has it been?
• 28:17
  17 days? How we're now it.
• 28:20
  We're just in the worst part of the baseball season.
• 28:23
  Like the fact that people get. I gave up on this years ago.
• 28:27
  The fact that people get worked up on the reports that come out
• 28:31
  at this point in time, it's a waste of your time.
• 28:35
  Stop wasting your time. Stop wasting your energy.
• 28:39
  Get outside, Take a walk, spend some time with your dog.
• 28:44
  Go get a sandwich at the local deli.
• 28:46
  Stop worrying about what they're reporting, because it's a whole
• 28:50
  bunch of nothing. The only things that we're
• 28:53
  hearing right now are that teams, unidentified teams are
• 28:58
  supposedly reportedly interested in unidentified players at a
• 29:03
  unidentified, unreported supposed rate of contract for an
• 29:10
  unspecified amount of time. Reportedly, that's all we know
• 29:14
  at this point. So true, so true.
• 29:19
  So anyway, I think, I think San Diego.
• 29:21
  So I mean they're this is been a nightmare.
• 29:24
  I would say the last six months has been an absolute nightmare.
• 29:28
  I mean, when you're talking about taking a loan out to just
• 29:31
  make payroll to your owner, passing away to rifts between
• 29:36
  your GM and your manager, and then doubling down and saying
• 29:40
  he's coming back and then he leaves three weeks later.
• 29:43
  To now you probably need to trade the best player on your
• 29:46
  roster just to make payroll happen.
• 29:51
  There's a lot of crap going on over there.
• 29:53
  And not to forget the sound bites that you you heard back at
• 29:57
  Padres Fest, which I admit I fell victim to.
• 30:01
  You got much shot. Who was it?
• 30:04
  Tatis was they asked him what? What did they ask him?
• 30:07
  Like, who do you want to face in the World Series or something?
• 30:12
  It was, I'm parapraising, but he was like, it doesn't matter,
• 30:14
  we're going to beat him. And then I think you had Machado
• 30:17
  with like the the LeBron S quote where he was like, not, not. 5
• 30:21
  Not 6-7 whatever. Like come on man, it's they it's
• 30:28
  early. Don't, don't don't take me at my
• 30:31
  word here for saying this because I I may change my tune
• 30:34
  come February, but and as of right now I'm kind of out.
• 30:37
  I'm super proud until you can show me some sort of direction
• 30:42
  you've you've given baseball fans no reason to believe in you
• 30:45
  because you let him down massively this year and last
• 30:49
  season for sure. So I'm out.
• 30:53
  But. Melvin in San Francisco.
• 30:59
  I'm a fan. I've said it before.
• 31:01
  I think Bob Melvin is an excellent manager, I think.
• 31:05
  He's I don't know what the issue was with Gabe Kapler.
• 31:11
  I couldn't pinpoint it personally.
• 31:14
  I just well, let me ask you this, I didn't feel it.
• 31:16
  I never felt it the way that I viewed Buck Showalter in New
• 31:25
  York. We're both Big Buck Showalter,
• 31:30
  guys. Yeah.
• 31:31
  And you were a believer in him that you thought that he could
• 31:34
  fix the train wreck in in Queens.
• 31:36
  And I said it doesn't matter. I can.
• 31:39
  I can give Buck all the praise that he's he's deserving of.
• 31:43
  But it's still the Mets knowing how you in particular me.
• 31:47
  Not as much. You.
• 31:48
  More so the way you feel about the Giants, as bright of a
• 31:52
  baseball mind as you think Bob Melvin is, do you think it
• 31:55
  really matters? I think he's going somewhere
• 32:01
  that has a combination of we're, we're responsible, we're in it
• 32:07
  for the long haul. We're going to build our own
• 32:09
  thing, but also go sign names. They're obviously aggressive
• 32:14
  when it comes to free agency and we've seen it then just kind of
• 32:19
  come up short. And I think there's probably a
• 32:22
  reason I I don't know if Gabe Kepler was that reason or not.
• 32:26
  But I got to imagine that Bob Melvin is going to be a a a
• 32:29
  positive thing. Like I want to sign here cuz Bob
• 32:34
  is there. So I think this is a good thing.
• 32:38
  I don't know if I feel as strongly, necessarily about the
• 32:44
  Giants, same way I do have like the Brewers or something, or the
• 32:49
  Twins, but. Yeah, I'm just, I'm not going to
• 32:54
  fall for it. I think there it's it's a cute
• 32:57
  story. Anytime they do well and I'm
• 33:00
  talking like post, post, Bocci era.
• 33:05
  Sure. Any anytime they do well, I'm
• 33:07
  just like it. It's it's not going to have a
• 33:11
  fairy tale ending. It just doesn't doesn't feel
• 33:13
  that way. Yeah.
• 33:16
  So curious to see what they do in free agency.
• 33:20
  Trade wise I don't know, but. Good for Bob, getting out of San
• 33:24
  Diego, I think. Yeah, it's a good thing, I
• 33:29
  think. I still think the Giants miss
• 33:33
  their, miss the boat on locking down like a guy.
• 33:39
  Because if you look at the, if you just look at the free agent
• 33:43
  class this year, it doesn't get the juices flowing the same way
• 33:48
  I feel like. For sure this is very top heavy
• 33:52
  very top heavy and I'm I'm not I don't say that to to dismiss the
• 33:58
  the Yamamoto's and and guys like that but to your point very top
• 34:02
  heavy and we've already seen Aaron Nola come off the board
• 34:07
  which we'll touch on here towards the end you're you're
• 34:12
  already missing out on on these guys already.
• 34:16
  So if you if you are trying to make a splash and you want it to
• 34:19
  be under Melvin's control and not four or 5-6 years down the
• 34:25
  road before before you finally get your guy, you better, you
• 34:29
  better get the ball rolling. Yeah, I mean, I saw a graphic
• 34:36
  tonight. I don't even remember.
• 34:37
  It may have been ML BS Post. It was talking about the top
• 34:41
  free agents at each position. It was Paul, the Young at
• 34:45
  shortstop. Like that's what we're dealing
• 34:47
  with. Yeah, that's understandable I
• 34:49
  think. Maybe there's another reason
• 34:51
  this is a good hire and maybe it is the fact that like, maybe the
• 34:54
  Giants just realized, hey, we we've missed our mark on the big
• 34:59
  signings. I don't, I I don't think they're
• 35:02
  a legitimate contender for for show.
• 35:04
  Hey, I'm sorry. I just, I can't buy in on that.
• 35:08
  So I'm going to go ahead and say maybe they brought in Bob
• 35:12
  saying, hey, we're going to go a little A's mode and you do what
• 35:18
  you do. You know, we're going to be
• 35:20
  pretty budgetary and we're going to make smart signings and we're
• 35:23
  going to try to field a team with scraps and play just clean
• 35:28
  ball. And that's kind of what you saw
• 35:30
  with like the Diamondbacks this year.
• 35:32
  Like you're seeing there's there's different ways of
• 35:34
  success. And I think if you play just
• 35:36
  really clean, good, solid disciplinary baseball and Bob
• 35:41
  Melvin at the helm, that makes a lot of sense to me because,
• 35:44
  like, no team's really going to get in there and score a ton of
• 35:47
  runs. You're not going to have a
• 35:48
  fantastic offense. You're not going to be able to
• 35:50
  attract power hitting, you know, hitters the way you used to.
• 35:56
  So I think maybe you just play small ball.
• 35:58
  You play really, really, really good small ball.
• 36:01
  You double down on pitching. There's plenty of pitching in
• 36:04
  the market right now. Go get a Jordan Montgomery, go
• 36:07
  get a, you know, one of those types of names and just like
• 36:11
  just get a decent bullpen put together and you're going to,
• 36:15
  you're good. I like that point you made about
• 36:18
  going A's mode a little bit because you know, we, I don't
• 36:22
  think we really talk about the way managers respond to
• 36:26
  different teams the same way we do with players.
• 36:28
  Because you hear all the time about like, well, you look at a
• 36:31
  guy like Sonny Gray. Can he play in a big market?
• 36:34
  Like can he perform under that? Kind of.
• 36:36
  That would be a great fit, too. You look at.
• 36:39
  Like I said, I don't. I don't know if we look at it
• 36:41
  the same way with managers, though.
• 36:43
  Maybe Bob Melvin isn't a guy that likes going to a team that
• 36:46
  has nothing but superstars, right?
• 36:48
  Maybe he likes. Maybe he responds better and he
• 36:51
  can tap into his managerial skill set better with a group of
• 36:55
  guys that's more coachable than a bunch of names.
• 36:58
  Like Soto Machado, exactly. I don't think we can overstress
• 37:03
  the fact that like those are I think superstars are difficult
• 37:06
  to manage. That's like the tale oldest time
• 37:09
  across sports. They're hard to they're hard to
• 37:12
  coach, they're hard to manage. So having a bunch of them, and
• 37:15
  maybe you're right, maybe Bob Phil, Bob Melvin's fit there
• 37:18
  just made no sense. With the superstars, you go
• 37:21
  somewhere like this where there are some really good veteran
• 37:25
  names in this free agent list that aren't superstars but are
• 37:28
  going to get you dubs, and you go somewhere that's super low
• 37:32
  key. I love it.
• 37:38
  You can flip the script. The Giants could flip the script
• 37:40
  for me. If they start going that mode
• 37:42
  and stop, stop pretending to be a big market, big spender and
• 37:46
  play baseball the way you normally play baseball and put
• 37:49
  your roster together the way you should.
• 37:51
  I'm in. You'll flip the script for me.
• 37:55
  I like it. Pat Murphy with the Brewers.
• 37:58
  I feel like I should have just paired this with the It's
• 38:02
  possible eight seasons as council's bench coach has a
• 38:12
  three-year contract and it's turning 65.
• 38:19
  Like next week, right? In that sweet spot.
• 38:23
  So that's what we know. You know, I mean, safe to assume
• 38:29
  not going to fill those shoes right off the jump.
• 38:33
  Probably not. But I mean, look like, if you
• 38:35
  like, if it kept internal, yeah. If you're going to, like, try to
• 38:39
  emulate what you just had, makes sense.
• 38:44
  I don't think any other baseball fans outside of Brewers fans,
• 38:48
  ever heard of him. What's crazy though, is I found
• 38:53
  this nugget when I was pulling some notes together.
• 38:57
  He was Notre Dame's coach when Craig council.
• 39:05
  Played playing there for the Irish.
• 39:08
  That's from 89 to 92. I like.
• 39:13
  I like the college baseball, the experience, the coaching
• 39:18
  experience. That gets me a little gassed up.
• 39:23
  Baseball's getting younger. I like it.
• 39:29
  I mean, it's still the Brewers, but yeah, I was just about to
• 39:32
  say we know how we feel about the Brewers, but I like it.
• 39:37
  I like it a lot. Joe Espada, another guy.
• 39:42
  Most predictable move of all offseason, I think.
• 39:45
  Yeah, yeah. But it's a similar to the Pat
• 39:48
  Murphy move. It's a move that I like.
• 39:50
  There's honestly, there's not really, aside from the the Ron
• 39:56
  Washington move, which it's not even because it's Ron
• 40:00
  Washington, it's just because it's the Angels and that they
• 40:04
  just, I don't know. Outside of the Ron Washington,
• 40:08
  though, there's not really a move that I have anything really
• 40:14
  negative to say about 'cause this is bottom of like you keep
• 40:17
  it internal, was the bench coach for the last six years.
• 40:22
  Yeah, I'm a. Fan like you said, it just made
• 40:26
  sense. This was the.
• 40:27
  The most predictable seamless transition that she could have
• 40:34
  expected and hoped for I think yeah there's there's they've
• 40:38
  developed like the Astro way and I think this this carries on
• 40:43
  that legacy of the Astro way. Whatever that whatever that
• 40:46
  means. I'm not an Astros fan, but I can
• 40:48
  tell that there's a way that organization is going to operate
• 40:51
  moving forward. And whereas these guys get older
• 40:56
  and they start to transition out and then you know new young guys
• 40:59
  are coming in. I it makes sense to have someone
• 41:02
  like like Joe who learned from 2 good managers.
• 41:12
  Then I think he was with the Yankees staff when Girardi was
• 41:16
  still around. I think he was one of first
• 41:20
  moves that when Boone came in the spot it was out.
• 41:24
  I think he was on Girardi's Girardi's bench for a little
• 41:26
  while. Let's pull up.
• 41:30
  So 3 good managers. Yeah, it's with the Yankees from
• 41:40
  15 to 17, it was with the Marlins from 10 to 13, who was?
• 41:46
  Who was? It's pre Mattingly, isn't it?
• 42:03
  Yeah, I think, yeah, for sure. I don't know, dude.
• 42:06
  Yeah, when he Marlins. Yankees Astros.
• 42:09
  Yeah, he's had a you know, that's that's a that's a strong
• 42:12
  resume. That's what I'm saying.
• 42:13
  Take into your first managerial, that's A and good for the
• 42:18
  Astros, recognizing that. It's probably like they're going
• 42:21
  to it's like you said, seamless. It's he's going to transition
• 42:24
  just fine. He's going to understand that
• 42:26
  roster. He's going to understand those
• 42:28
  players. He's he's going to do just fine.
• 42:31
  I don't think they're going to skip a beat at all.
• 42:34
  Last, we'll hear Carlos Mendo skip a beat.
• 42:40
  Skip a beat, right. Does that sound weird?
• 42:44
  Going to stop thinking about it. You know when you say something,
• 42:47
  you're like, that can't be right, and you say it over and
• 42:49
  over again, you're like, it's definitely not right, but it is.
• 42:51
  Not going to skip a beat? Yeah, no, you're right.
• 42:54
  All right. Yeah.
• 42:55
  Miss a beat. Yeah.
• 42:56
  Is it Miss? A beat?
• 42:56
  No skip. A beat?
• 42:57
  No. You're right, not going to skip
• 42:59
  a beat. Now you got me doubled.
• 43:02
  Whatever. Carlos Mendoza here last.
• 43:04
  Lastly before we get into we got to run through some awards.
• 43:07
  Lastly, Carlos Mendoza for the Mets.
• 43:12
  I mean it's the Mets. Like I still, I still stand
• 43:18
  behind what I said, though I don't have anything necessarily
• 43:20
  negative to say about this. Yeah.
• 43:22
  Individual, yeah. But it's like Ron Washington
• 43:26
  with the Angels. It's it's the Mets.
• 43:29
  Yeah. This is Phil Nevin hire in my
• 43:33
  mind nothing against Mindy. I think he was good on the
• 43:35
  bench. Consider I saw this this like
• 43:39
  meme on on Instagram that was like Carlos Mendoza has managed
• 43:45
  for like a certain amount of years at the Yankees.
• 43:47
  But he's managed like 683 games with all of Aaron Boone's
• 43:51
  ejections. So, like, he's got plenty of
• 43:54
  service time. I mean, it's a meme, but that's,
• 43:58
  that's the reality of it. Like he's, he's got, he's had to
• 44:02
  answer the call on more than one occasion.
• 44:05
  So, I mean, I think it's smart. It's if you're the Mets, I mean,
• 44:12
  you came out and publicly said you're not doing anything next
• 44:15
  year. You got a guy that has watched
• 44:18
  how managing should can happen, not should happen, how managing
• 44:24
  can happen in New York. So I think it'll be fine.
• 44:31
  I mean, you have to think. You have to think that the whole
• 44:35
  punt conversation that got leaks that had to have played into
• 44:39
  council's decision had to have. Like if you're Craig Council,
• 44:45
  you're not signing up and he's not a he's not a baby.
• 44:48
  Sick guy? No.
• 44:50
  And I don't see that at at all, being the fit after being in
• 44:55
  Milwaukee that long and playing in Arizona.
• 44:57
  Well, isn't counsel? Isn't he a Midwest guy?
• 45:00
  Isn't. Wait a minute, is he from?
• 45:09
  Isn't he? Let's see, South Bend IN.
• 45:14
  Yeah, he's a That's a Creek counselor.
• 45:16
  That's a Midwest guy at heart. That's.
• 45:18
  Yeah. He ain't going.
• 45:19
  He ain't going east. Good for the Mets for attempting
• 45:24
  that. But I wonder if the Cubs were
• 45:27
  like, Dang. I didn't even know council is
• 45:30
  taking calls until the Mets let that out the out the cat out the
• 45:35
  out the bag. But I don't know.
• 45:37
  Yeah. Carlos Mendoza.
• 45:38
  Good fit. Do your thing.
• 45:40
  I don't know what's happening in Metland.
• 45:43
  Couldn't tell you. Awards.
• 45:52
  I was going to say Padres manager, but as I had to mention
• 45:55
  that's currently Vacants. So let's let's switch gears,
• 45:58
  talk, let's get caught up to speed on the awards.
• 46:03
  They were released last week but as I mentioned it's been 17 days
• 46:10
  so we're going to get you caught up to speed.
• 46:11
  Give our Give our thoughts here. Rookie of the Year Gunner
• 46:18
  Henderson coming out of the AL? Pretty much a no brainer on both
• 46:23
  sides, yeah. What's that?
• 46:26
  Pretty much a no brainer on both sides.
• 46:28
  Yeah, both were unanimous or no. Yes, Yes, both unanimous for the
• 46:40
  first time since 2017. Only a fifth time ever.
• 46:50
  I like it. Not much to say, just a crazy
• 46:55
  amount of talent and. I saw it.
• 47:02
  I think both these guys have a game that's going to stick
• 47:04
  around. Well, I was literally just about
• 47:06
  to ask you. I saw I saw a question posed on
• 47:08
  social today. If you could take one of these
• 47:11
  guys for the next 15 years who you taken probably lean gunner.
• 47:16
  Just because I'm a I'm an infielder, Bias, But.
• 47:21
  I think he ages. He has to age better, you would
• 47:24
  think, Right? Yeah.
• 47:25
  Like, yeah. Like his, his play, his bill.
• 47:29
  I think you got to assume that the Corbin juice isn't going to
• 47:31
  last forever. But either way, I mean it's it's
• 47:35
  still they're both sick. They're both really, really
• 47:39
  sick. But yeah, I think they're
• 47:42
  they're both going to last a while.
• 47:43
  They're both top of the order guys that are just going to be a
• 47:47
  problem for a long time. It's not one of those rookies
• 47:52
  that like you could see and there's a hole in his game.
• 47:55
  I'm not saying they won't have, you know, down year at any
• 48:00
  point, but they got stuff that like is super replicable of what
• 48:04
  they did this year. I think we saw who they are.
• 48:08
  Speaking of which, did you this had kind of slipped under the
• 48:12
  radar for me the the draft pick? Compensation.
• 48:20
  Did you hear about that? No.
• 48:24
  So I need. I'm trying to find it here.
• 48:31
  It was something about because that they were in the top top
• 48:42
  one MLB Top 100. Where is this?
• 48:49
  I'm glad you hadn't heard about it either, because it was very
• 48:57
  much under the radar. Did you not?
• 49:03
  You didn't. You didn't catch any of this.
• 49:05
  No, not a drop. Where is it?
• 49:09
  I don't know what I was doing the night these were released.
• 49:16
  This boy was on vacay. He was on a baseball vacay.
• 49:19
  This was Monday. Here we go, the prospects,
• 49:25
  promotion, incentive, OK. So I just pulled up an article
• 49:34
  here from Sporty News. MLB team's manipulation of top
• 49:37
  prospect service time was one of the biggest issues for the
• 49:39
  players union when negotiating the most recent CBA in 2022.
• 49:46
  The practice, which is vexed MLB players and fans alike, has
• 49:49
  delayed top young players, especially on certain teams,
• 49:51
  from opening the season in the majors, much of the dismay of
• 49:54
  fans looking to see the future. So essentially, essentially,
• 49:59
  Tony Clark knows what he's doing.
• 50:03
  A measure in the new and this was from earlier in the year.
• 50:07
  This was bet for back in March, but it says that a measure in
• 50:10
  the new CBA seems to have addressed that issue.
• 50:12
  The prospect promotion incentive, which is designed to
• 50:15
  promote teams to prompt teams to bring players up sooner, Love
• 50:19
  that. So trying to see it's.
• 50:26
  Here we go, here we go. Players who win Rookie of the
• 50:28
  Year earn their team an amateur draft pick after the first round
• 50:33
  and second or third place. Finishers earn an international
• 50:38
  pick. That's baller, dude.
• 50:40
  That's such a smart implementation.
• 50:45
  And I that just made me like a big fan of, like, wanting to pay
• 50:52
  attention more to the next CBA. Just personally, like, 'cause
• 50:57
  that's such a cool thing. And like, you never know how
• 51:00
  that would exist. And I hope that like at that
• 51:03
  point, whenever that pick comes around and pans out, like how
• 51:07
  sick would that be, you can point it back.
• 51:09
  To this, it's like 2032 and Corbin Carroll.
• 51:12
  Corbin Carroll's, you know, hitting second and and the
• 51:16
  Diamondbacks are chasing down a division.
• 51:18
  And then this rookie that comes up and just starts balling out
• 51:21
  with the team is in the lineup. And like, I hope that someone is
• 51:25
  going to pay attention to that and be like this is the reason.
• 51:28
  And I think that man, Tony Clark, job well done.
• 51:34
  Dude, no. But what I was saying is so it
• 51:36
  it was the top 100 thing. So it says what players are
• 51:39
  eligible for ML BS Prospect promotion incentive.
• 51:42
  The reason we're most mostly seen highly touted prospects get
• 51:45
  promoted is because only players on specific top 100 lists can
• 51:48
  earn their team's picks. They must be on the top 100 in
• 51:52
  two of the lists compiledbymlb.com, Baseball
• 51:55
  America or ESPN to qualify because both of them did.
• 51:59
  They earned both of their teams these picks.
• 52:02
  So that's good on whoever qualifier too.
• 52:07
  That's smart. Yeah, whoever, whether it's Tony
• 52:10
  Clark or somebody else, whoever pulled the trigger on that
• 52:14
  detail of the CBA. Super sick.
• 52:17
  Love that manners of the year. Brandon Hyde, Skip Schumacher.
• 52:25
  I think a lot of people possibly had off guard.
• 52:28
  It did. It did.
• 52:31
  I think for the AL though, a lot of people were thinking Bruce
• 52:34
  Bocci. But as a reminder, these wars
• 52:37
  are pre post season so you can't you can't just silly factor in
• 52:45
  what Bocci did in October. I don't know why, I just got a
• 52:48
  thumbs up on the screen again. But anyway, how could you not
• 52:57
  give it to Hyde, right? That was a no brainer.
• 53:01
  I think I saw that one for sure. I I think yeah.
• 53:07
  I don't know. I I don't.
• 53:11
  I don't. I don't really fully understand
• 53:13
  the Bochy thing. I think just like the overall
• 53:17
  like roster configuration like everything went well for the
• 53:20
  Rangers obviously. But like I don't know.
• 53:25
  I think if you if we just remove the last, like if we remove the
• 53:29
  postseason from our brains, I think a lot of people would
• 53:32
  understand this, this selection, Brandon Hyde deserve this.
• 53:36
  He's he's deserved this, not just for this year, but what
• 53:41
  he's put up with for the last few years too.
• 53:43
  And in the build up of this and to to have all of this come
• 53:48
  together, the Orioles organization, no matter how you
• 53:52
  want to chalk it up. Was it tanking?
• 53:54
  Was it not tanking? But like we have all these
• 53:58
  prospects coming up and it needs to come together.
• 54:00
  You could say a ball club as well.
• 54:02
  You're going to be good enough. No.
• 54:04
  We see prospects that don't pin out all the time.
• 54:06
  So for this manager to be in this position and help these
• 54:09
  prospects become who they are, and now this seems a legitimate
• 54:13
  threat in the AL. He deserves this for multiple,
• 54:18
  multiple years of good managing. Took a team that lost 115. 115
• 54:26
  games the season before he arrived to the 4th most wins in
• 54:30
  franchise history in his fifth season.
• 54:34
  There you go. The only the only AL manager
• 54:42
  with 100 plus wins in the regular season.
• 54:44
  So there you go. Seemed like a no brainer to me.
• 54:48
  Skip Schumacher, like you said, kind of caught me off guard a
• 54:51
  little bit. I don't hate it.
• 54:53
  I'm not disliking. It it was just a surprise.
• 55:01
  I mean the and and it's nothing against these guys, but it's
• 55:08
  hard for me to pull for the OR to say that I would have voted
• 55:13
  for some of these guys who just managed juggernauts like I know
• 55:17
  that's an inherent challenge even in and of itself like we
• 55:20
  just talked about with Melvin and the challenges that that
• 55:23
  come with. Managing a bunch of superstars
• 55:26
  and all that and and trying to keep those guys in line over the
• 55:29
  course of 162. But a guy like Brandon Hyde, who
• 55:36
  we just talked about very rough tenure starting out, having to
• 55:41
  turn that all around. Skip Schumacher, obviously not
• 55:45
  having even a Really. Any semblance of a competitive
• 55:53
  team was able to take what he had and and at least get them to
• 55:58
  the dance, albeit getting waxed in the wild card round.
• 56:03
  But as we said, doesn't factor in here.
• 56:06
  But it's just to me, it's easier to vote for a manager like that.
• 56:10
  Like if I was, if I had a vote, it would be easier to vote for a
• 56:14
  guy like that over a guy like snicker, where it's like, right?
• 56:20
  I don't know. Yeah, for anybody.
• 56:23
  Just kind of scrolling through the comments, you know, You
• 56:25
  know, Facebook always brings the heat For anybody talking snit, I
• 56:33
  get it. I understand it.
• 56:34
  But for anybody talking Lavello, Please remember that the
• 56:39
  Diamondbacks were not at all on your radar before the
• 56:42
  postseason, and that's when this voting happens.
• 56:44
  So remember that? How many?
• 56:50
  How many wins did the the Marlins finish with because they
• 56:55
  had the If I was a betting man, I'd say did they the seven?
• 57:04
  What seed did they finish in the wild card though last?
• 57:08
  They were the last one. Yeah.
• 57:10
  We got swept by the Phillies. I'll never forget.
• 57:12
  It no, they weren't. The no they weren't.
• 57:15
  The D backs finished last. Really.
• 57:19
  Because they remember they played the Brewers.
• 57:23
  Oh yeah, yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah 'cause the last place will
• 57:26
  face the division winner. That's.
• 57:27
  Right, the Phillies. But how many wins did they
• 57:31
  finish with? The Marlins?
• 57:34
  Finish 84. So the Marlins.
• 57:37
  So you can't even really make the the win Total argument,
• 57:42
  'cause you could look at the D bags like, well, they finish two
• 57:44
  games above 500. But I mean, so did the Marlins.
• 57:48
  But. I think you could safely say
• 57:54
  that the expectations for the D backs and that's partially I
• 57:57
  think why collectively probably a little more so me, we're a
• 58:03
  little higher on the D backs than in years past coming in
• 58:05
  this year because you're looking at going, you know this team
• 58:08
  could do something in October and sure enough the Marlins
• 58:11
  continue to surprise me. Yeah, so I mean.
• 58:17
  Maybe not a no brainer, but I'm not buying into what's going on
• 58:20
  there. Yeah, Kim ING leaving tells you
• 58:25
  all you need to need to know. Good for not it.
• 58:29
  Not a no brainer, but a good yeah.
• 58:30
  Good pick. Cy Young.
• 58:33
  Garrett Cole. Blake Snell.
• 58:37
  Look I'll raise my hand. Congrats to Garrett Cole he
• 58:42
  finally that was that was my biggest hang up with this guy.
• 58:46
  Every year, the preseason favorite to win the Cy Young and
• 58:50
  year after year. And you've been right.
• 58:53
  You've been right to complain about it.
• 58:55
  Never panned out. And I'm going, OK, if this guy
• 58:58
  is as good as they say he is, he hasn't even.
• 59:04
  It's how many years has he been? How many years has he been
• 59:08
  throwing? Now he's got to be getting into
• 59:12
  like Year 9 or 10. A year after, That's what I'm
• 59:16
  saying. A year after year, for sure.
• 59:19
  I fully understand it. He look, he finally did it.
• 59:22
  So I'm. I'm here, Congratulate him and
• 59:25
  look, I'd like to see Jared Carabas put his hand up.
• 59:28
  I haven't looked. Has he?
• 59:29
  I. Don't know.
• 59:31
  But you know, I was thinking about it today because I'm like,
• 59:33
  how am I going to go about talking about this?
• 59:37
  I I think it's good for baseball.
• 59:39
  Because if you're going to have a bit like if if the Yankees are
• 59:42
  going to have any chance of returning into the Evil Empire,
• 59:45
  and if Garrett Cole is going to have any chance of being at the
• 59:49
  helm of that villain mode, then you want him to at least have.
• 59:55
  Like some some juice behind it. Because then you gotta be able
• 59:59
  to. The trophies have to back it up,
• 1:00:01
  yeah? Right.
• 1:00:02
  You can, you can kind of clap back, you can let your, you can
• 1:00:04
  let your hardware speak for itself.
• 1:00:06
  So I think it's at least better for baseball in that sense.
• 1:00:09
  But. I like that.
• 1:00:10
  Still think the guy's a bum, but, you know, tip of the cap to
• 1:00:13
  coal. Fair enough, Fair enough.
• 1:00:16
  I appreciate that Fun to watch. Obviously, Yankee fan here
• 1:00:20
  watched pretty much all of his starts all year.
• 1:00:23
  He. Was commanding.
• 1:00:26
  And I know that you like to poke fun at him when he's like when
• 1:00:31
  he gets upset if, but he is a perfectionist and it's like you
• 1:00:34
  can tell if he gets pissed if if he misses his spots or he really
• 1:00:39
  gets on his catchers. So it's like you can hate on him
• 1:00:43
  if you want to, but when an ace steps up, acts like an ace and
• 1:00:47
  brings home a trophy, like an ace walks like a duck, talks
• 1:00:52
  like a duck. I'm here.
• 1:00:55
  He talks like a He talks like a duck.
• 1:00:58
  See what I mean? You could just everybody could
• 1:01:00
  throw shade, they could say. Whatever they want.
• 1:01:04
  If my man continues to be a Cy Young candidate and locks it
• 1:01:08
  down, I'm cool. Is it you think?
• 1:01:11
  Is Kermit related to a duck? I don't know.
• 1:01:13
  But you know, those phone calls were like the like the Pizza Hut
• 1:01:17
  we'll call Domino's or something like that, and you just put the
• 1:01:20
  phones together. Love Patrick Mahomes and Garrett
• 1:01:23
  Cole to just do that the same thing. 2 phones together would
• 1:01:25
  be gold. That would be gold.
• 1:01:30
  I had never thought about that. That is hilarious.
• 1:01:32
  That's hilarious. Blake Snell.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah, I mean, he's got to be the.
• 1:01:39
  Special stuff, dude. He's got to be.
• 1:01:44
  I thought I had this note. He's got to be the first guy to
• 1:01:50
  win the Cy Young after leading the league in ERA and walks,
• 1:01:54
  right? Maybe the 2nd it's?
• 1:01:56
  A new it's This is Is this like the new home runs and
• 1:02:01
  strikeouts? Conversation, I suppose, walks.
• 1:02:06
  Are are less? I don't know.
• 1:02:07
  I can't. I'll never get on board for
• 1:02:09
  that, no matter what the analytics say.
• 1:02:10
  If you tell me that walks are less important, yeah, well, I
• 1:02:13
  mean, well, he he proved you that he can manage it like.
• 1:02:18
  Yeah, Walksby damned. He's going to.
• 1:02:21
  He's going to figure a way out of it.
• 1:02:24
  But the more impressive note to come from this was that he
• 1:02:28
  became the 7th player to win the award in each league.
• 1:02:34
  I put a post out about it, but do you?
• 1:02:36
  How many of those do you think you can name?
• 1:02:41
  I mean, I'm really putting you on the spot here, but.
• 1:02:45
  I'd guess Clemens. Clemens.
• 1:02:48
  Randy. Randy.
• 1:02:55
  Shilling. Oh, good guess, but no.
• 1:03:00
  Didn't get one in Boston, did he?
• 1:03:04
  No. Pedro, Pedro.
• 1:03:13
  Roy Holiday? Roy Holiday.
• 1:03:20
  I'm not going to be good with the older names.
• 1:03:22
  There's still, there's still a current current day guy on here.
• 1:03:29
  Verlander. Scherzer.
• 1:03:34
  We got to think Verlander has only been.
• 1:03:37
  Hey, yo. Yeah, I don't know what I was
• 1:03:38
  thinking there. I think the only other one you
• 1:03:45
  missed, Gaylord Perry. I think you got everybody else.
• 1:03:47
  Dang. I would have never dropped that.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah, no. But yeah, seven player.
• 1:03:53
  Another thumbs up for that should come up on my screen.
• 1:03:57
  I want that. Does it just register?
• 1:04:00
  There you go. It registers that I'm putting up
• 1:04:02
  the the thumbs up. Oh, that's what it is.
• 1:04:05
  It's because when I'm like counting, when I'm like listing
• 1:04:07
  stuff off, it registers my thumbs up.
• 1:04:10
  That's what it is. OK.
• 1:04:12
  If you don't know what we're talking about, check us out on
• 1:04:14
  YouTube, rate, review, subscribe, all the stuff, boom,
• 1:04:19
  MVP. I mean no sense even talking
• 1:04:23
  about it. Shohei, Acuna.
• 1:04:24
  I think the the one thing we do have to note here before we move
• 1:04:27
  on showing up to the award announcement with his dog.
• 1:04:37
  I mean, how how great was that? I'm, I'm here for it.
• 1:04:41
  Can we make this a thing now? Well, actually, no, no, no, I
• 1:04:44
  don't want to make it a thing that I want this to be show
• 1:04:46
  Hasting because he's going to be there every year.
• 1:04:48
  He's going to be. He's going to continue.
• 1:04:50
  To get more and more likable, doesn't he like he gets more and
• 1:04:53
  more likable. I think I fought it in the
• 1:04:55
  beginning and I'm like, why you can't?
• 1:04:57
  He's adorable. You can't say one negative thing
• 1:05:01
  about. This he can't.
• 1:05:03
  You can't. I mean, I'm trying to think of
• 1:05:05
  one right now and I can't. Doesn't matter.
• 1:05:09
  Like, maybe, maybe he doesn't pick up all of the trash when
• 1:05:13
  he's going around to these different ballparks, picking up
• 1:05:15
  trash on his on his days off because he likes making a habit
• 1:05:21
  of that picking up trash. Maybe he doesn't get the man the
• 1:05:23
  trash. Honestly, he's the man.
• 1:05:30
  When do you think? When do you think that bombs
• 1:05:32
  going to drop? At what point of the offseason?
• 1:05:34
  I'll say pre Christmas, pre Christmas.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah, he's a he's a routine guy. He's a regiment guy.
• 1:05:42
  He he needs to get his stuff figured out.
• 1:05:44
  You can. He's going to want to have a
• 1:05:46
  home before then. That's my guess.
• 1:05:50
  So we got. I would say how about pre New
• 1:05:52
  year? How about pre New Year?
• 1:05:53
  Just that's very OK by the end of the year, Yeah, end of the
• 1:05:56
  year, OK. I like that.
• 1:05:58
  I like that Ronald Cunha junior. I think it's a dump for me.
• 1:06:10
  I mean, just to be safe, I had the Mookie graphic ready to
• 1:06:14
  drop, but I was like, this is a waste of my time.
• 1:06:17
  What am I doing? I will say though, on that note,
• 1:06:24
  I'm glad I had the Skip Schumacher graphic made-up
• 1:06:27
  because I was not expecting that and I was like, wow, I really
• 1:06:31
  love that here. But yeah, no brainer for Acuna
• 1:06:36
  And Mookie actually actually came in second on all 30 of the
• 1:06:40
  ballots, which I thought was pretty interesting.
• 1:06:45
  Good. For Mookie, also another thing I
• 1:06:47
  didn't realize about Acunia because everybody was so swept
• 1:06:50
  up with the stolen base conversation and the and the the
• 1:06:55
  What was it? The 4070?
• 1:06:58
  I did not realize he was second in the league in batting
• 1:07:02
  average. Again, not that people really
• 1:07:04
  care about that anymore, but finished behind a rise did not
• 1:07:08
  realize that. It's it's nuts, dude.
• 1:07:11
  It's nuts like he is the total package for sure.
• 1:07:17
  Man. Tell you what, Braves fans have
• 1:07:20
  a lot to be excited about. Oakland A's fans, however, do
• 1:07:25
  not. Let's let's shift gears here.
• 1:07:28
  Let's run through some news and notes from around the league
• 1:07:32
  that have have made headlines as of late.
• 1:07:36
  Oakland It was announced on Thursday that the owners voted
• 1:07:50
  unanimously to get the A's out of town.
• 1:07:57
  Another Duh. It's a no brainer.
• 1:08:04
  Now next step is getting that owner out of his seat, John
• 1:08:08
  Fisher, with possibly the quote of the year.
• 1:08:16
  Today is an incredibly difficult day for Oakland A's fans, but
• 1:08:21
  it's a great day for Las Vegas. Read the room, John.
• 1:08:27
  Come on guy. Just brutal.
• 1:08:30
  I mean, I know you. You've had a very difficult time
• 1:08:34
  reading the room during your stay in Oakland, but my
• 1:08:39
  goodness, talk about twisting the knife.
• 1:08:46
  Unbelievable. How?
• 1:08:48
  Like how? Do you say that?
• 1:08:50
  At A at a certain point, and I mean he's been hearing it for
• 1:08:54
  years on all ends, how bad of an owner he is, which I don't
• 1:08:58
  disagree with. You can't hate the man for for
• 1:09:02
  shooting back one last. That's like the definition of
• 1:09:05
  getting the last word in the argument.
• 1:09:08
  The definition props, honestly, is cold blooded.
• 1:09:15
  I'm here for it, yeah. I mean, get a little attitude,
• 1:09:20
  man. From that.
• 1:09:21
  From that. I mean, I've always, I've said
• 1:09:24
  for the life of this podcast, I'm here for the pettiness.
• 1:09:27
  Yeah. And I I mean, I can't hate the
• 1:09:30
  man from that point of. View But we can't.
• 1:09:33
  We can't shift our seats now dude.
• 1:09:35
  You and I have been you wanted him to stay.
• 1:09:39
  Then you show up and support your club and which by the way,
• 1:09:44
  I'm I still get notifications about comments on that video
• 1:09:50
  that I put out about. I don't even remember how long
• 1:09:52
  ago that was, but I basically just said you go back, you look
• 1:09:56
  at the attendance numbers because the the whole thing, the
• 1:09:59
  whole thing with the A's fans is that well we didn't have it it
• 1:10:04
  who's going to come out and root for a non competitive team?
• 1:10:08
  OK, you go back, you look at the A's teams the last decade that
• 1:10:12
  made it to the post season, look at the attendance numbers and
• 1:10:15
  tell me that that's still the case because it's not and the
• 1:10:18
  numbers show that. So don't sit there and try to
• 1:10:21
  tell me. Well it's it's because of the
• 1:10:23
  product that's on the field. OK.
• 1:10:25
  If that's the case then why weren't you there in the mid
• 1:10:27
  twenty 10s? You weren't.
• 1:10:30
  So don't don't be playing your tiny violin now because I I just
• 1:10:34
  have no interest in hearing it and whether it pans out in
• 1:10:37
  Vegas, that's not that's that's a whole separate conversation.
• 1:10:41
  But it it wasn't going to pan out here and and A's fans know
• 1:10:45
  that. Vegas A's sounds fire, so it's
• 1:10:51
  awfully close to the Vegas Aces, which I think we.
• 1:10:54
  Determined. Most likely.
• 1:10:56
  WNBA team. Yeah.
• 1:10:59
  Bye. Bye.
• 1:10:59
  You're gone. No, I'm just kidding.
• 1:11:02
  Say no. Didn't they, like, just win the
• 1:11:05
  whole freaking thing? Really couldn't tell you that.
• 1:11:08
  Yeah. Why am I asking you that?
• 1:11:10
  Oh, man, hold on. Kind of look like a jerk.
• 1:11:12
  If I'm right on this, If I'm right on this, talk about
• 1:11:15
  recall. Hold on.
• 1:11:21
  The Aces became the first WNBA team in 21 years, went
• 1:11:25
  back-to-back titles. Oh, there you go.
• 1:11:27
  The only thing I knew is how about that?
• 1:11:29
  I think the chick that one of the chicks is dating Darren
• 1:11:32
  Waller at tight end of the Giants.
• 1:11:33
  That's the only thing I know about the WNBA as a whole.
• 1:11:37
  I know that St. Brittany.
• 1:11:39
  Griner plays here in Phoenix that those are the two things
• 1:11:42
  I've Is she back? I don't even know if she's back.
• 1:11:45
  They brought. Her back.
• 1:11:46
  Oh, she's back. Yeah, yeah, she's back.
• 1:11:48
  Don't get me started there. No, I think.
• 1:11:51
  What's your name? Kelsey Plum.
• 1:12:00
  Girl's a baller, man. Yeah.
• 1:12:01
  She. Yeah, she plays for the Aces.
• 1:12:02
  Yeah. Yeah, OK.
• 1:12:04
  Yeah. So let's not just, I mean say
• 1:12:06
  what you will about the NBA but or the WNBA, but we're not going
• 1:12:08
  to necessarily brush the back-to-back.
• 1:12:11
  Champs. I like it.
• 1:12:12
  Look, look like Vegas has needed this and next step is there's
• 1:12:19
  got to be the NBA. So why did I think they already
• 1:12:27
  had? OK, so I got hockey.
• 1:12:30
  I got football team. Now they got baseball.
• 1:12:32
  Raiders ace aces. No NBA the.
• 1:12:38
  Kings. Sacramento.
• 1:12:42
  Oh, Knights. Knights.
• 1:12:43
  Knights. Sorry.
• 1:12:44
  When you said hockey, I was looking.
• 1:12:46
  I was thinking of the logo. It's Knights.
• 1:12:49
  Yeah, but that that would be a candidate.
• 1:12:52
  Yeah, Sacramento Kings. Nothing.
• 1:12:54
  No one in Sacramento cares about them.
• 1:12:57
  Move them to Vegas. Vegas needs to have all of them.
• 1:13:00
  It's. It's a no brainer to me.
• 1:13:03
  It's the capital of sports betting.
• 1:13:05
  Why would you not have? That's, that's my whole thing.
• 1:13:07
  Like, even if they Even if the baseball team sucks, which I'm
• 1:13:10
  sure it will right out of the game.
• 1:13:11
  Find a way to make it a show. So yeah, I'd rather have an A
• 1:13:15
  product attempt to be entertaining in Las Vegas than I
• 1:13:19
  would Oakland. Because look, the reality of it
• 1:13:21
  is you're. Going to be able to attract.
• 1:13:22
  You're going to be able to attract free agents now too if
• 1:13:25
  you're a bit not take take baseball out of it if you're a
• 1:13:29
  business. I'm not getting political here.
• 1:13:31
  I'm not talking about the mayor or anything, but I'm just saying
• 1:13:35
  the reality of it is, is if you're just a general business,
• 1:13:38
  you're probably pulling out of Oakland right about now because
• 1:13:42
  it's state. The state of California has has
• 1:13:46
  it got some some trouble on their hands.
• 1:13:49
  So I like from a business point of view, like I understand it
• 1:13:53
  sucks for the fans that the die hards.
• 1:13:55
  I get that. But like.
• 1:13:58
  This makes sense I. Say that.
• 1:14:02
  It's not like it's not like these other owners are idiots.
• 1:14:06
  They're business owners. They're right.
• 1:14:08
  Like in this sports franchise that they own is probably not
• 1:14:12
  the only thing they own. I think they understand on a
• 1:14:15
  business sense it's better for them too.
• 1:14:17
  It's better for baseball. And what do we say all of the
• 1:14:19
  time about? So many of these owners care
• 1:14:22
  more about baseball. So, like, you can guarantee if
• 1:14:25
  they're sitting down talking about relocation, from a
• 1:14:28
  business perspective, this is better and they don't care about
• 1:14:31
  baseball. This was the easiest decision
• 1:14:33
  they've probably ever made in their lives.
• 1:14:35
  And think about like the amount of one of the best players in
• 1:14:38
  baseball right now is from that area.
• 1:14:40
  So, like, Nevada produces baseball players left and right.
• 1:14:45
  This is a no brainer, no? But wrapping up my earlier
• 1:14:51
  point, I I know I said all about all that about Oakland and
• 1:14:54
  California. It's not exactly like Vegas is
• 1:14:57
  the beacon of morality, no? Yeah, but like, again, from a
• 1:15:02
  business, from an entertainment point of view, I don't have any
• 1:15:06
  complaints about it. Although I did see that it's not
• 1:15:08
  technically official. I think we can assume that it's.
• 1:15:12
  I think it's pretty official, pretty much there.
• 1:15:13
  How do you feel? About them not even being able
• 1:15:15
  to play there until like 2028 or something.
• 1:15:17
  Dude, I saw. It's kind of whack.
• 1:15:19
  I saw an article the other day that said that they could
• 1:15:23
  possibly play it split their their time in Oracle.
• 1:15:26
  Yeah, what are we doing? Yeah, just go do what the Jays
• 1:15:33
  did. Go to A AAA park, go to a spring
• 1:15:36
  trail, Whatever. It's weird.
• 1:15:38
  Get out. Get out of the Bay.
• 1:15:41
  Get out of the Bay. It's weird.
• 1:15:43
  And I saw that they're talk. The fans are organizing A
• 1:15:46
  boycott for opening day next year.
• 1:15:47
  I'm like, for what? Like the the reverse boycott was
• 1:15:55
  cool and all that, but like, for what?
• 1:15:57
  Yeah. I think Ace fans are just a
• 1:16:02
  bunch of social media warriors, dude.
• 1:16:06
  I've I've said my piece. I don't want to get any more
• 1:16:08
  trouble with Ace fans than I am right now.
• 1:16:10
  What do we got next year? The pitch clock Major League
• 1:16:16
  Baseball's Competition Committee committee is weighing a proposal
• 1:16:20
  that would reduce the pitch clock with runners on base from
• 1:16:23
  20 seconds to 18 seconds. Whatever I don't, I've given up.
• 1:16:29
  I don't care. What's 2 seconds?
• 1:16:33
  You already got it implemented. What's 2 seconds?
• 1:16:36
  Sure. I don't have the energy to fight
• 1:16:39
  you on this. You got to, you got to pick your
• 1:16:40
  battles. This is not one of them.
• 1:16:42
  Got to pick and choose your battles.
• 1:16:43
  I just think it's. I mean, I I I agree with you on
• 1:16:46
  that front. I'm just saying in a world where
• 1:16:50
  Major League Baseball had to hear a, had to hear the
• 1:16:53
  conversation from players and fans alike saying, all right if
• 1:16:58
  we're going to go with this pitch clock, can we tack on like
• 1:17:02
  maybe 2 seconds? Like we'll we'll keep the game
• 1:17:04
  moving, but give us just like, maybe, you know, two more
• 1:17:06
  seconds. Yeah.
• 1:17:08
  And they're just like, we'll do you one better.
• 1:17:11
  We'll take two seconds off. I don't, I don't know what
• 1:17:17
  you're right. What I do know is that like in
• 1:17:19
  seat services need to really step up their game.
• 1:17:22
  That's going to be the next thing you're going to see in
• 1:17:24
  stadiums. In seat services need to like,
• 1:17:27
  you need better vendors, you need better food being brought
• 1:17:30
  around. You need, you need it quicker.
• 1:17:32
  You need the delivery work in. That the second an owner decides
• 1:17:36
  to do that in his stadium, you're in good shape because he
• 1:17:42
  can't move. Might as well put a toilet right
• 1:17:45
  in front of you too. Bring a just bring a bedpan
• 1:17:49
  that. That's Major League Baseball
• 1:17:51
  where the parks the park. Yes, the park should do that in.
• 1:17:54
  In addition, in addition, in addition to clear bags, in those
• 1:18:04
  clear bags you should be allowed to bring a bedpan.
• 1:18:07
  That rule is just straight booty straight.
• 1:18:11
  So that fat lady snuck in a gun in Chicago.
• 1:18:13
  So don't talk to me about a clear bag anymore.
• 1:18:15
  To be fair, it wasn't in her bag.
• 1:18:17
  It was literally like in her. So that's that's.
• 1:18:21
  I want clear stomachs 2025 All Star game coming back to
• 1:18:31
  Atlanta, I guess. You could say what a weird.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah, there's certain things we're not going to touch with a
• 1:18:40
  10 foot pole, but I will say this is going to be perfect.
• 1:18:44
  I've been around that stadium, although like the shops and the
• 1:18:47
  restaurants and just a lot. You see a lot of these teams
• 1:18:50
  trying to do this now. They're building like
• 1:18:52
  entertainment around the ballpark before the game.
• 1:18:56
  You're going to love it if you're an All Star fan.
• 1:18:58
  If you're a, you know, a fan of baseball in general, you will
• 1:19:01
  love that experience. Down in Atlanta, who was the
• 1:19:07
  Mets Cohen was talking about doing this with with the.
• 1:19:12
  City, I think the Red Sox are doing something right.
• 1:19:14
  I think they purchased like yeah, they've got few blocks
• 1:19:18
  around there. Yeah, they put, didn't I?
• 1:19:23
  I think we like walked by it when they had it kind of marked
• 1:19:26
  off. It's.
• 1:19:27
  They've got the. It's like a bunch of book or
• 1:19:30
  whatever. Yeah, yeah, Chicago.
• 1:19:33
  Chicago's doing it with the hotel like these, these, they're
• 1:19:39
  starting to figure it out. Like you can make this an all
• 1:19:41
  day thing. And that's what Atlanta has down
• 1:19:45
  there. It's sick.
• 1:19:45
  I'm a huge fan. Huge huge fan.
• 1:19:48
  I'm about it. No, you said we're not going to
• 1:19:51
  touch it with a 10 foot fall. I'm going to let's let's at
• 1:19:54
  least let's tinker with it. We don't need to.
• 1:19:56
  We don't need to open the can of worms.
• 1:19:59
  But from all that I've read, nothing that sparked the initial
• 1:20:03
  decision back in what was that 2021, nothing has changed.
• 1:20:11
  So. It's still going to be an issue
• 1:20:13
  for your next election. Is this Major League Baseball's
• 1:20:16
  way of saying, hey, maybe we were a little too quick from the
• 1:20:20
  hip? Because nothing's nothing's
• 1:20:23
  changed. Maybe Major League Baseball got
• 1:20:26
  a little reactionary. Possibly.
• 1:20:30
  Maybe stay out of politics. Maybe all I have to say though,
• 1:20:36
  happy for Atlanta. You know, regardless of the
• 1:20:40
  decision. Like the the Braves and the city
• 1:20:43
  of Atlanta were the ones that. Ultimately suffered from the
• 1:20:47
  decision to pull it out because you think about all the money
• 1:20:49
  that would have gone into the businesses and the restaurants
• 1:20:52
  and this and that but happy for them they final they they
• 1:20:56
  finally get it back there. So 2025 we've got Texas, next
• 1:21:02
  year going to be down in in Dallas, 2025 Atlanta and then
• 1:21:10
  2026 will be Philly. To mark the two 250th
• 1:21:18
  anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
• 1:21:21
  So sick. Little nugget for you.
• 1:21:23
  Love that. We may have mentioned it, but we
• 1:21:26
  need to go to that cool down. Also also given Philly A 100%
• 1:21:33
  down. Speaking of Philly close,
• 1:21:37
  closing it up here. Just broke today Aaron Nola.
• 1:21:41
  Heading back to Philly, Staying in Philly I should say on A7
• 1:21:46
  year, $172 million contract. Just I I know they didn't get
• 1:21:53
  over the hump. I understand they kind of
• 1:21:55
  choked. But I'm, I can't help but feel
• 1:22:00
  all things are going Philly way. All things are going Philly way
• 1:22:05
  when your fans are this bought in and they've now created your
• 1:22:09
  players to be this bought in. Your manager is just went from
• 1:22:15
  interim to being beloved. Your GM has been bouncing around
• 1:22:20
  between jobs all around the league spending a ton of money.
• 1:22:23
  Sometimes it panned out, sometimes it doesn't.
• 1:22:26
  All things are going Philly way and for Nola to say no to more
• 1:22:30
  money elsewhere to stick around proves to you how bought in.
• 1:22:35
  Every single person in Philly is pulling the rope in the same
• 1:22:39
  direction. Everybody.
• 1:22:41
  And on that note, because I saw, I saw some snarky tweets from
• 1:22:46
  Braves fans being like, OK, so when?
• 1:22:48
  So when Phillies fan or when Phillies players take less money
• 1:22:53
  to stick around for the movement, it's OK, we we praise
• 1:22:57
  it. But when the Braves, the
• 1:22:59
  difference is you've got a 30 year old free agent.
• 1:23:02
  Thank you. You're you're not getting these
• 1:23:04
  guys when they're like coming out of 6th grade, when they're
• 1:23:07
  graduating to middle school going, hey, you know, we like
• 1:23:10
  what you what you bring to the table.
• 1:23:12
  As a 12 year old, we want to lock you down for the next 12
• 1:23:17
  years for 60 bucks. How does that sound?
• 1:23:21
  Nailed it. And as a 12 year old, you're
• 1:23:24
  probably going, you know, I'll take that sixty spot.
• 1:23:26
  I get 5 bucks every other week for allowance, so I'll take 60
• 1:23:31
  bucks. That's the difference.
• 1:23:35
  So don't try to compare. We're we're talking about apples
• 1:23:37
  and oranges here, so don't spare me on that comparison.
• 1:23:43
  It's not the same. Not the same.
• 1:23:46
  But yeah, love this, love this for Nola there I saw some
• 1:23:49
  reports. Again, this just goes to show
• 1:23:51
  you that nobody at the end of the day really knows what
• 1:23:54
  they're talking about because you there's reports floating
• 1:23:57
  around saying Nola not likely to resign in Philly.
• 1:24:03
  True. Which gave a lot of other teams
• 1:24:05
  around the league hope you know you see these mock up rotations
• 1:24:09
  you're going man he looks that could be a good fit there could
• 1:24:12
  be a good fit there. Heck, I even know the socks were
• 1:24:17
  were likely in on that and that would have been a heck of a
• 1:24:20
  Braves fans. Braves fans are just hating
• 1:24:22
  because they were big on that. Oh yeah, I think everybody in
• 1:24:27
  Atlanta was big on that fit. Oh yeah, they were.
• 1:24:30
  And I think a lot. Rightly so.
• 1:24:32
  They're probably banking on that being if if he was going to
• 1:24:35
  move, that would have been the destination.
• 1:24:37
  But I love it again, some quasi honorary bandwagon Philly fan on
• 1:24:50
  the NL side of things. I'm here for it, dude.
• 1:24:55
  I love it. It just feels like they're doing
• 1:24:58
  everything the right way. They're like, Oh yeah, Bryce,
• 1:25:00
  you're going to stay at first base, like, and it's a perfect
• 1:25:03
  fit. And let's just do this moving
• 1:25:04
  forward. Like it's just everyone's so
• 1:25:07
  bought in, dude, like it. And it's, it's over and over
• 1:25:12
  again. It's boom, it's Trey Turner,
• 1:25:14
  it's it's Bryce, it's, you know, Philly Rob, it's these fans.
• 1:25:18
  It's like every story is just staying together.
• 1:25:23
  The fairy tale is not over. And I know it hasn't been, it
• 1:25:26
  hasn't had a ring attached yet. But it will.
• 1:25:30
  I'm telling you it will. It has to.
• 1:25:31
  At this point, it's all their direction.
• 1:25:37
  That's going to make a heck of a World Series film.
• 1:25:39
  When it finally does happen, you got, you got to save that
• 1:25:42
  receipt. I'll tell you what, especially,
• 1:25:47
  like, think about it, dude. If they could do it this coming
• 1:25:51
  season, I mean, we're not going to.
• 1:25:54
  Tiptoe and it like predictions or anything, and I'm not like
• 1:25:57
  showing my hand on anything. I haven't even thought about
• 1:25:59
  2020 four at all. Predictions yet, but just with
• 1:26:03
  the way the timeline has panned out for them, like you said,
• 1:26:06
  they've gotten close. Everybody still for the most
• 1:26:10
  part on board here, if you can maybe make some makes the right
• 1:26:16
  moves, it's offseason to fill in any, any and all gaps that may
• 1:26:20
  be there. Oh, that was the other thing
• 1:26:22
  saying absolutely not to trading Castellanos.
• 1:26:26
  Nikki Blast is saying like that. I don't know dude.
• 1:26:30
  It's just everyone is the the organization and the players and
• 1:26:35
  the fans all being on the same page at once.
• 1:26:38
  Think of how rare that is. It's cool to see.
• 1:26:43
  I'm jealous. I read an article today that
• 1:26:46
  said that they're possibly talking about working on an
• 1:26:49
  extension for Harper. He's 5, he's five years into a,
• 1:26:55
  what, a 13 year deal, and we're talking about more years and
• 1:26:59
  more money. To be fair though, you have to
• 1:27:01
  remember he's like the 20, His contract is like 20, 4th, I
• 1:27:07
  think, yeah, yeah. In term I want to say in terms
• 1:27:10
  of what Avi guess. So like before you get I just
• 1:27:17
  all been out of shape, it's just really nice to see and any other
• 1:27:21
  fan base that is hating on that is either a division rival or
• 1:27:26
  jealous. It's going to make for quite a
• 1:27:34
  movie, quite a movie. Speaking of movie, we pretty
• 1:27:41
  much ran the length of a a motion picture for this episode,
• 1:27:44
  but sure did. You got any?
• 1:27:46
  You got anything else before we get out of here?
• 1:27:48
  No. Forgot how how this felt, to be
• 1:27:52
  honest. It feels good.
• 1:27:55
  You start dropping names, you start pulling names out of it
• 1:27:58
  and you're like, whoa, I haven't thought about this guy in weeks
• 1:28:00
  and all of a sudden you're just it's nice.
• 1:28:03
  I feel like the rust was not on there's.
• 1:28:07
  Minimal I I feel like, Yeah, which?
• 1:28:10
  Goes to show you how how tapped in you you kind of have to be in
• 1:28:16
  a 162 to be able to just pull this out like the recall had.
• 1:28:20
  The fact that it's still kind of there, yeah, I'm proud of us.
• 1:28:24
  That's a long Can we? Well, now that we know that it
• 1:28:27
  like we're, we still kind of got it, can we like maybe keep the
• 1:28:31
  brake going a little bit. Can we maybe tap back, tap back
• 1:28:34
  in for maybe another week or two off right, revisit this.
• 1:28:38
  I think we just kind of let the offseason depict that.
• 1:28:42
  Maybe for the next week or two, Who knows?
• 1:28:44
  That's that's true. Well, we got to, we got to drop
• 1:28:46
  some change UPS I'm working on, we do.
• 1:28:49
  I'm very excited to get some change UPS rolling.
• 1:28:51
  I got a running list, and I know you got a busy schedule this
• 1:28:56
  week, but if there's maybe oh, I'll make time for a change up
• 1:28:59
  episode. You know that if you want to.
• 1:29:01
  We could do one on Thanksgiving. We could do like a Thanksgiving
• 1:29:04
  change up. And just talk all things
• 1:29:07
  Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving morning, I'm in.
• 1:29:10
  Traditions I'm in. I'm not kidding.
• 1:29:13
  No, I'm not saying all we don't have to do it on Thanksgiving.
• 1:29:16
  I'm saying like leading up to it.
• 1:29:18
  Themed, like I'm in Thanksgiving themed.
• 1:29:20
  That's fine. I'm in.
• 1:29:22
  Can't do Wednesday, but we'll talk.
• 1:29:26
  I'm in. Maybe we can.
• 1:29:27
  Maybe we can for those who aren't aware by the way, because
• 1:29:29
  it has been a while, three O change up episodes are non
• 1:29:33
  baseball episodes. So we just.
• 1:29:37
  Little bonus pods, we just yeah, we just get after it with some
• 1:29:41
  bonus pods about random stuff, so.
• 1:29:44
  To this point, I don't. I don't have the full list in
• 1:29:47
  front of me. But we've talked about fast
• 1:29:49
  food, We've talked about Costco, the office, board games, all
• 1:29:57
  individual episodes. So if you're a fan of that and
• 1:30:01
  maybe just need to, no, it's no baseball.
• 1:30:05
  So I don't know what you are. Maybe your wives are finally
• 1:30:08
  wanting to listen to something that isn't baseball related.
• 1:30:12
  Hey, it's a good way for you guys to know, to know our
• 1:30:15
  personality a little bit more. And now we get to talk about
• 1:30:17
  some things we like. Some things maybe we don't like
• 1:30:20
  as much, but we are oddly passionate about other things
• 1:30:23
  besides baseball. Don't worry.
• 1:30:25
  Yeah, Costco is a perfect example.
• 1:30:27
  Go back and listen to Costco change up.
• 1:30:28
  It's, it's it's weirdly placed passion, but it's there.
• 1:30:32
  We get after it, all right. It's good to be back.
• 1:30:36
  I think the plan for now is still going to be one a week, as
• 1:30:40
  it usually is in the offseason. But that may change.
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  Who knows if things get, if things get hot and heavy, we
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  may, we may bump it up to two. We're always looking to to
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  switch things up, you know, to keep you on your toes, keep
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  ourselves on our toes, always need to better ourselves.
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  We will. We'll see how things go.
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  But for right now. We'll see you guys possibly
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  later this week with a change up, but at at worst Thanksgiving
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  change up sounds so far. At worst, if that doesn't
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  happen, you'll hear from us next week.
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  Sick. Love it.
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  Oh, but. You got like 2 more minutes.
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  What do you got? I completely.
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  I completely. I completely forgot I was
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  setting us up to get out to get out of here right on time sort
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  of. But I forgot the D backs
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  uniforms. Let me get your super quick
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  thoughts on the D backs uniforms.
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  I'm a fan. Look, we've been we've been
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  there. They're slowly coming back,
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  trickling in. Dude, Tell.
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  Me tell me they are not just bridging the gap to go on full
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  purple and teal. With these, the red can go, the
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  red can go. I don't think anyone here is
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  super attached to the red. The teal, if you honestly just
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  make black like a big component, even if it was black, black and
• 1:32:14
  teal like I'm in the. Black alternates, money fire.
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  The teal being back is just, it's it's very good, very, very
• 1:32:23
  good. But also, that's the thing.
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  It's not the it's not the old teal.
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  It's this like new electric. Teal, I think they call it.
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  Yeah. So it's not, it's not the 2000s
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  teal. Also not to be a hater because I
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  don't. I don't have time and I don't
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  really want to be that big of a hater.
• 1:32:40
  But to me, this is like a super insecure Diamondbacks thing to
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  do. You weren't supposed to get to
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  the World Series and then you lose.
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  And you're like, no, don't worry, please come back.
• 1:32:53
  We have more to show you. And well, I mean, they had new
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  uniforms to try to get people to come back.
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  No, they had to have been put on this.
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  That's all they said. I don't know.
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  Trust me they this was well this was this has been in the works
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  for a while. You just saw pull this out in a
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  week and say, oh, I would, I don't know, I'm just saying.
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  I will say though, dude, and I can't explain it, it for all
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  intents and purposes it's not like the greatest hat I've ever
• 1:33:22
  seen. But I am oddly drawn.
• 1:33:26
  To the Black Hat with the red brim and the old snake D on it.
• 1:33:32
  I love love that hat and I can't.
• 1:33:35
  Again cannot explain to you why, but I love it.
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  It's what they wear with the Gray with the road Grays.
• 1:33:43
  Yeah, that hat is. That is sick, which is why I'm
• 1:33:48
  not on board with getting rid of the red, because also the red
• 1:33:52
  alternates are strong. The red does wear.
• 1:33:54
  It's been dry. It's been they've dimmed down
• 1:33:57
  the red a little bit. Yeah.
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  So they get rid of the sand. They go full red, black and
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  electric teal. Those hat.
• 1:34:06
  That hat is sick. That is such a sick hat.
• 1:34:10
  The only union I'm really I'm really not on board with here of
• 1:34:13
  these four is the the off white. Honestly.
• 1:34:16
  Really. The teal looks weird on that.
• 1:34:20
  It does and it looks I saw a comment because I was trying to
• 1:34:23
  figure out why I felt that way, but it I saw a comment that said
• 1:34:26
  it looks like a create a uniform on MLB The Show and I'm like
• 1:34:30
  kind of does. That makes sense.
• 1:34:31
  You just slap the logo on a yeah, like a like a with the
• 1:34:35
  piping. Yeah, but yeah, dude, actually
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  the red, now that I'm more like, I'm looking at this, The all
• 1:34:45
  red, the all Red Hat. The old school D is superior.
• 1:34:49
  I think we can all. Absolutely.
• 1:34:51
  We can all agree there. Yeah, I'm totally on board of
• 1:34:54
  this rebrand. I love it.
• 1:34:56
  And I very well may be purchasing that that lid,
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  because that is money. I'm there.
• 1:35:05
  I'm there with. You anyway, wanted to get that
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  in there, but yeah, rewind here. You'll probably hear from us
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  this week with a change up on related to Thanksgiving.
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  At some point This week. I think we'd come out the gates.
• 1:35:22
  I think we'd come out the gates firing.
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  I think this. I think I'll, I'll fully
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  guarantee a Thanksgiving change up episode.
• 1:35:28
  How about that? Right.
• 1:35:29
  There you have it. Fully guaranteed.
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  So we you will hear from us. Hear from us again this week,
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  change up, and then we'll talk more baseball post Thanksgiving.
• 1:35:40
  Everyone have a happy Thanksgiving.
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  Enjoy some Turkey. Enjoy some mashed potatoes.
• 1:35:47
  Skip the sweet potatoes. Nobody has time for that and
• 1:35:52
  just pour gravy on everything and we'll see.
• 1:35:55
  You guys demand quality stuffing.
• 1:35:57
  That's my last request. We'll get into that.
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  Bam. Don't go chasing curveballs,
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  folks. We love you all and as always,
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  looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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  Until next time, stay filthy.