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Show Rewind 9-1-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: Hi there, and let's get after it. It is 6.03.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Kelly Nash. Welcome to Tuesday. Christopher Thompson,
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  Speaker 2: how are you this morning?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to September.
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  Speaker 2: We're strutting into September like a boss. I start the
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  Speaker 2: programming with a programming note and some sad news. I
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  Speaker 2: just received an email late yesterday that it just says, quote,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well.
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  Speaker 4: Blah, blah, blah, Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Annie Andrews will be attending the funeral of a staff
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  Speaker 2: member who suddenly passed away in Orangeburg. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: understanding that we have to reschedule our interview with you,
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  Speaker 2: Kelly Nash. So we will not, as previously promised, be
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  Speaker 2: having the good Dr. Annie Andrews on. When I saw
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  Speaker 2: the subject matter, rescheduling Dr. Andrews, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: maybe she heard our show and finally said, maybe I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be on it. No, actually, I think
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  Speaker 2: that she's actually excited about the opportunity to come on and, again,
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  Speaker 2: try to poach some, we'll say, moderate Republicans.
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  Speaker 4: How's that?
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  Speaker 2: And or people who are upset at the way the
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  Speaker 2: primaries have gone. They might want to switch their allegiance.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the good doctor is hoping. I say the
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  Speaker 2: good doctor. The doctor is hoping. And so she'll be
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  Speaker 2: making her case. And again, this was something that we
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  Speaker 2: asked y'all about. Do you want us to have Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Andrews on?
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  Speaker 2: And do you want us to have the, again, we've
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  Speaker 2: struck out so far with the constitutional party, but with
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  Speaker 2: the libertarian, we're going to schedule her for later on
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  Speaker 2: after we get through the Dr. Andrews thing. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: the libertarian on. And then we'll, of course, we'll try
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  Speaker 2: to get Darlene Graham on. And then we'll, uh, we'll see,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we'll end up Christopher. Do you think we should,
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  Speaker 2: and let's open up the, uh, the talkback feature to
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  Speaker 2: this idea.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, what's his name?
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  Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson is running for governor, the governor. And we
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  Speaker 2: have never had him on previously. I've spoken with lots
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  Speaker 2: of Democrats in the past. Um, and some of those
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  Speaker 2: interviews aired on this radio station, though, not in this
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  Speaker 2: time slot. Like I interviewed Gavin Newsom before, um, we've had, uh, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: what's his name? Rahm Emanuel was on the show. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not as if I'm adverse to talking to them.
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  Speaker 2: The difference between talking to a Republican and a Democrat
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  Speaker 2: for me is typically I agree with 95 percent of
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  Speaker 2: what a Republican is going to say. And so I
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  Speaker 2: don't really push back because it aligns with my understanding
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  Speaker 2: of how things would get done when they make their like.
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  Speaker 2: I can already tell, you know, Dr. Andrews is going
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  Speaker 2: to make the big case for health care. And my understanding,
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  Speaker 2: my perspective is Barack Obama broke it. Barack Obama is
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  Speaker 2: the guy who broke it. And the Democrats, when they
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  Speaker 2: voted for Obamacare, they broke the health care system. At
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  Speaker 2: that point, nothing has changed since the Affordable Care Act
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  Speaker 2: as far as the percentage of Americans with health care insurance.
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  Speaker 2: It's exactly the same today as it was 16 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: That was their goal, was to get more people on it.
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  Speaker 2: The way they wanted to do it was to penalize
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  Speaker 2: you if you didn't get it. In the interim, they
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  Speaker 2: put a cap on profits, but they based that cap
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  Speaker 2: off percentages. And because they're doing that on percentages and
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  Speaker 2: most people were receiving subsidies, you didn't care if the
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  Speaker 2: cost for, say, a procedure went from $ 1, 000 to $ 10, 000.
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  Speaker 2: If your out-of-pocket costs were still the same. But in
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  Speaker 2: order for the companies to get paid, since it's off
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  Speaker 2: a percentage... They needed to raise their prices, and us
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  Speaker 2: as taxpayers ended up flipping the bill, which is why
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  Speaker 2: we spend roughly triple what any other country pays for
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  Speaker 2: health care, and it still sucks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you hear people say we're one of the
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  Speaker 5: worst countries in the world for health care, which I
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  Speaker 5: would disagree with, but there are countries who do it
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  Speaker 5: better and more efficiently, certainly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, anybody who says we're one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: in the world is– clearly trying to get under your
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  Speaker 2: skin here a little bit. Because would I swap it
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  Speaker 2: out for Bernie Sanders' dream of a Cuba health care system? No,
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  Speaker 2: of course not. And if you have money in America,
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  Speaker 2: the best health care is in America still. It's still
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  Speaker 2: better than anybody else's. What the problem is, is for
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  Speaker 2: most Americans, we don't have a lot of expendable cash.
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  Speaker 4: And so you end up waiting in line Wait, it's
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  Speaker 4: kind of like what the VA was.
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  Speaker 2: What was it like 10 years ago when we had
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  Speaker 2: all those people who were literally just dying in the
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  Speaker 2: hallways at the VA waiting to see a doctor because
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  Speaker 2: they drove so many doctors out that if you have
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  Speaker 2: like a onset of a flu, good luck getting to
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  Speaker 2: see your doctor.
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  Speaker 4: Good luck.
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  Speaker 2: Because Barack Obama said, if you like your doctor, you
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  Speaker 2: can keep your doctor, except about 30% of all doctors
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  Speaker 2: retired within two years of the Affordable Care Act being
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  Speaker 2: put in place because it was unbearable for them.
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  Speaker 3: They saw the writing on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they're out so we have a lot fewer doctors
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  Speaker 2: today so we have and because the way the pay
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  Speaker 2: structure is is set up under obamacare these primary care
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  Speaker 2: people they need to see literally like dozens of people
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  Speaker 2: where they used to just be able to see one
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  Speaker 2: or two in order to break even they got to
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  Speaker 2: see dozens now and so they're just going through us
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  Speaker 2: and they don't have time for, for chit chat. They
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  Speaker 2: don't have time to hear about that little ache and
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  Speaker 2: pain you might be experiencing. It's made things worse. And
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  Speaker 2: so she's going to say, like all Democrats, we just
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  Speaker 2: need more money.
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  Speaker 4: That's all.
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  Speaker 5: Well, she's got a pretty moderate message these days. If
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  Speaker 5: you're following her ads, which she's blanketing the airwaves with
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  Speaker 5: right now, she sounds like a fairly moderate Republican in
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  Speaker 5: a lot. She's talking about tax breaks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need tax breaks, Christopher, and we need more,
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  Speaker 2: but we need better health care. You deserve better health
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  Speaker 2: care and you deserve lower taxes and you deserve better infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: We've had massive mismanagement in this state and around this country.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That mismanagement came from y'all. Again, the Affordable Care Act
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to fix this. This was the Democrats' big dream.
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  Speaker 2: So when you complain about healthcare, when I hear James
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  Speaker 2: Clyburn talking.
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  Speaker 4: About, oh, we got a broken healthcare system, you broke it, Jim.
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  Speaker 4: You're the guy who created it.
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  Speaker 2: You, Barack, Rahm Emanuel, the whole crew got together and
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  Speaker 2: you dreamed up this socialized medicine idea. You sold it
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  Speaker 2: to the American public and now we're all suffering under it.
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  Speaker 2: And your answer is, Eh, double down on it.
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  Speaker 4: That'll really fix it. Come on, give me a break.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're off to the races, Christopher. 6.09, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about that. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: data centers, J.D. Vance getting hammered on that yesterday. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that and other things. It's whatever you want to.
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  Speaker 2: Use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. This is
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 8: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 4: We had another.
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  Speaker 2: Another police officer fired yesterday. Colleton County, again, back in
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  Speaker 2: the news. They had to fire Lieutenant Kevin Smalls yesterday
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  Speaker 2: as he conducted 62 unauthorized searches with the flock system.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier in August, we had another guy who was fired after,
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, 2,700 unauthorized searches he did with the flock system.
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  Speaker 2: So Colleton County is experiencing it. It's happening nationwide. It's
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  Speaker 2: obviously not just our police departments. It's police departments everywhere. But, Christopher,
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  Speaker 2: as we have mentioned, it's one thing to have the
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  Speaker 2: police department either continue with the flock cameras, try to
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  Speaker 2: put more restrictions on them, whatever. But the number one
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  Speaker 2: consumer is the HOAs. Now, when you look and ask, like,
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  Speaker 2: how many HOAs? They don't know because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: it's private, and Flock's not going to share that information.
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  Speaker 2: But the best guess is now there's roughly 6,000 HOAs
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  Speaker 2: that have invested in these things.
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  Speaker 5: If I'm a resident of that community, I would ask, why?
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  Speaker 5: Why pay for it? I understand security cameras.
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  Speaker 3: They're needed. But do you really need a license plate reader?
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking at the.
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  Speaker 3: How bad is the crime in your community?
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  Speaker 2: It's funny that you ask that because the National Association
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  Speaker 2: of Realtors yesterday on their blog headline, HOA surveillance cameras
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  Speaker 2: may raise new questions for homebuyers. And they talk about
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  Speaker 2: how it's so interesting. If you are used to more,
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  Speaker 2: we'll just say, government authority in your life. I'll just
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  Speaker 2: use that phrase, even though the HOA, I guess it
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  Speaker 2: is a form of government. But if you're used to,
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  Speaker 2: if you're coming from the North, they say that the,
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  Speaker 2: what they're calling the snowbirds, the people that are moving
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  Speaker 2: to the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, from those areas, they love it.
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  Speaker 2: They ask for it. Do you guys have that? That's
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  Speaker 2: extra security. I feel better about it. The people who live,
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  Speaker 2: who are born and raised under I'll just call it
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  Speaker 2: more freedom. vibe, the Carolinas and Georgia and Florida.
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  Speaker 4: They hate it.
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  Speaker 2: And they're talking about how we're having these big battles
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  Speaker 2: now at HOA meetings all up and down the Eastern
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  Speaker 2: seaboard because the people from the North are like, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's great because now I know who's coming into
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  Speaker 2: my neighborhoods. Even if I live in a gated community,
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  Speaker 2: I want more security. And the people who live there
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  Speaker 2: are like, well, I can't control.
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  Speaker 4: The HOA and they can be doing anything with my information.
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  Speaker 2: Including selling it. So why would I want this in
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  Speaker 2: my life? And is it ripe for abuse moving forward?
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  Speaker 2: Of course it is. The more information people have on you,
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  Speaker 2: the more easily it is to sell it, abuse it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, use control over you. So I am coming
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  Speaker 2: more and more on the line of, I would like
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  Speaker 2: I would like an outline. We're not going to get
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  Speaker 2: a ban, I don't think. However, Oconee County, in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of days, well, a couple of weeks, August 18th
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  Speaker 2: is when they started this. September 15th is when they're
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  Speaker 2: going to have their final vote. Oconee County advancing South
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  Speaker 2: Carolina's first ordinance of its kind.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, there are no laws on the books in
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  Speaker 4: South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: And it's called the Protection from Mass Surveillance Act. And
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  Speaker 2: it's cleared its first reading, like I said, back on
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  Speaker 2: August 18th. So they're going to have their final reading
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  Speaker 2: on September 15th. And again, that's just for one county,
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  Speaker 2: Oconee County. But basically they would say, we want those,
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  Speaker 2: we want those removed.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting posts on social media over the weekend from a
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  Speaker 5: former police officer.
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  Speaker 3: And this got a lot of play.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the things he said was, and this
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  Speaker 5: resonated with a lot of people, is flock cameras actually
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  Speaker 5: make the police less intrusive on your lives. And he
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  Speaker 5: related a story. In the old days, an APB would
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  Speaker 5: go out, all points bulletin.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we're looking for a Volkswagen Golf. That was
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  Speaker 3: his example.
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  Speaker 5: They would pull over every Volkswagen Golf, trying to find
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  Speaker 5: the particular vehicle they were looking for or the particular
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  Speaker 5: suspect they were looking for. Now, with these flock cameras,
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  Speaker 5: they not only know what license plate they're looking for,
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  Speaker 5: but they usually know the area in which, and it's
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  Speaker 5: usually a quick find when that person is on the run.
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  Speaker 5: So the police officer was, again, former police officer, was
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  Speaker 5: making the case that this is actually less intrusive on
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  Speaker 5: your lives. You might have been pulled over for doing nothing.
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  Speaker 5: Now they know exactly who they're looking for and what
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  Speaker 5: car they're looking for, and they can find it usually
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  Speaker 5: pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Everything in the United, well, everything in government is, you
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  Speaker 2: weigh it out, right? So in the United States, when
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  Speaker 2: we set up our Justice Department, One of the things
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  Speaker 2: that the founding fathers and the original implementers of jurisdictions
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  Speaker 2: said was we are going to side on allowing guilty
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  Speaker 2: people to be set free. We would rather have a
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  Speaker 2: murderer on the streets than an innocent person in jail.
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  Speaker 2: You had to weigh that. And that's where they came
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  Speaker 2: down on. Now, of course, there are still innocent people
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  Speaker 2: that go to jail. But we try, we bend over
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  Speaker 2: backwards to make sure that the only people that end
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  Speaker 2: up being imprisoned are the really, really guilty ones. And
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  Speaker 2: we have a lot of criminals that wander our streets
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  Speaker 2: still because that was the weight that they put on it.
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  Speaker 2: I think most Americans are, it depends on where you're from, apparently,
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  Speaker 2: but I am one of the people who would rather
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  Speaker 2: have the police have to go door to door looking
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  Speaker 2: for a criminal rather than have them easily scoop them
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  Speaker 2: up in the interim knowing that this can be used
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  Speaker 2: against us. And we talked about during the COVID restrictions.
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  Speaker 2: If I was to go to my church, it was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be against the law to go to church
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  Speaker 2: during COVID. I'm going to my church. And now if
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  Speaker 2: you've given them another weapon against me to stop me
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  Speaker 2: from going to my church— I don't want the government
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  Speaker 2: having that much control.
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  Speaker 5: I just, I wonder how controversial flock cameras would be
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  Speaker 5: today if it were not for all these cases we're
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  Speaker 5: hearing of, you know, police who are abusing these flock cameras.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and there's the other problem, right, is that the
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  Speaker 2: people in authority, you can't trust anybody, basically. That's why
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  Speaker 2: the government is supposedly structured in a way where nobody
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  Speaker 2: can have too much authority over us. And What happens
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  Speaker 2: is people like to give authority to people thinking, well,
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  Speaker 2: this individual is really great.
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  Speaker 4: I trust that individual.
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  Speaker 2: And then maybe they're great. And then somebody replaces them
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  Speaker 2: and they're not so great, but they still have all
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  Speaker 2: the authority. Or perhaps that person becomes corrupted by the power.
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  Speaker 2: Either way, the less power government organizations can have over
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  Speaker 2: the people, the better things.
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  Speaker 4: That's the way I'm coming down on it.
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  Speaker 2: If you feel differently, if you want to, if you're like, Hey, look,
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  Speaker 2: I love the idea that the police can go right
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  Speaker 2: after people. And I love the fact that the HOAs
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  Speaker 2: can tell you who's been rolling through our communities for
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  Speaker 2: no reason. Are they casing the joint? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: We'd like to know if you're on that side, let
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  Speaker 2: us know about it. Use the talk back feature. But
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be coming to a head over
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  Speaker 2: the next year or two. And interesting to see how
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  Speaker 2: Coney County votes on that here in the next couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks. It's now 622.
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  Speaker 2: Friends, Christopher Thompson and I are thrilled that you have
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  Speaker 2: chosen to start your day with us.
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  Speaker 4: And we're going to take a quick break here.
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  Speaker 2: But first, I want to let you know that coming back,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have the tie in. Nobody has put
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  Speaker 2: this together except us, FDR and Donald Trump. What does
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  Speaker 2: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, one of the architects of the expansion
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  Speaker 2: of government, and some would say the introduction of socialism,
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  Speaker 2: what does he and Donald Trump have in common?
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  Speaker 4: This might blow your mind.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: And somehow we'll throw Gerald Ford into that as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so now we got a party. Gerald Ford, FDR, and
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump walk into a bar.
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  Speaker 4: I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 2: But they are all tied in together with the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that end. Supreme Court Justice
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  Speaker 2: John Roberts, is this guy just, is he playing the
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  Speaker 2: long game? I'll tell you what he wrote yesterday, and
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  Speaker 2: it seems as if John Roberts is now entering the
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  Speaker 2: political fray. I'll explain how that and more. It is
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  Speaker 2: now 629.
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  Speaker 8: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
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  Speaker 8: Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: You know, John Roberts, Chief Justice, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 2: out on a limb and say he's a lot smarter
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  Speaker 2: than me.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Some of you may argue no, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: say that the Supreme Court Chief Justice, John Roberts, is
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  Speaker 2: a smarter individual than I am. I'm also going to
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  Speaker 2: say that he's probably better versed in case history than
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  Speaker 2: I am. I'll also say that he probably knew all
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  Speaker 2: the facts regarding his decision yesterday. And when I say
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  Speaker 2: all the facts, I mean all the facts, not just
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  Speaker 2: the backstory, but more importantly, who is voting how. So yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court comes out 5-4 and backs Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 2: ability to build the ballroom. And, you know, that's– Trump
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  Speaker 2: is celebrating. He's doing his victory lap. He's all over
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  Speaker 2: social media. And John Roberts is the author of the
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  Speaker 2: dissent article. And in it, he says that it's likely
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  Speaker 2: unlawful what's happening here. And he goes on to say,
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  Speaker 2: today's decision is no victory for the separation of powers
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  Speaker 2: because only Congress can approve the ability to build any
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  Speaker 2: federal construction.
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  Speaker 4: It all has to go through Congress.
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  Speaker 2: Every single inch of all buildings must be approved by Congress.
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  Speaker 2: which John Roberts knows is complete, I'll use a Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden term, malarkey. And we can go back just in
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  Speaker 2: the last, less than 100 years. And the last, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it goes further back than that. But we'll start off 1934.
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  Speaker 2: The guy who expanded government at the most rapid rate
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  Speaker 2: in our history is a guy named Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
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  Speaker 4: FDR said.
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  Speaker 2: to himself, I have polio and I have to continue
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: to lie to the American people.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: They can't see that I've got polio.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So there was all kinds of things put in place
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: to try to hide that from the American people. But
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: one of the things that he would benefit from was
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: daily swimming.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: So what did they do?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: They built an indoor swimming pool so that nobody would
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: see him outside swimming. Who paid for that? Private funders.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Congress had nothing to do with that swimming pool. By
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the way, that swimming pool is what turned into the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: press briefing room. The basement bowling alley. Richard Nixon received
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: as a very fancy schmancy birthday gift a bowling alley
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: built into the White House, paid for by private donations.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, the.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: The South Grounds pool, Gerald Ford had a huge swimming
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: pool put out on the South Lawn, funded.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: By private donations. So for John Roberts, who clearly.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Knew all this, by the way, the government, I'm sure,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: made that argument in the Supreme Court case itself.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: So even if he didn't know about the background.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Story, he would have known that there are numerous things
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that have been paid for at the White House by
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: private donations. So the fact that Donald Trump is building
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: a ballroom with private donations has literally nothing to do
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: with Congress. It is a gift to the American people.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: It is not even a gift that Donald Trump will
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: probably get to use. It's a gift for future generations.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: It's one of these things that Barack Obama complained about incessantly.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: The fact that we have to have our state dinners
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: out on the flipping lawn with the gnats and the bugs,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and it's humiliating. And, you know, he's a very big fan.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: European globalist. You know, this would never have happened. I'll
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: tell you, it never would have happened if we were
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: doing this in Denmark. Wouldn't have happened in England. Wouldn't
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: have happened in Spain. But it's happening here.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's right.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Congress will approve that. And Americans were like, no, flip that, man.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: By the way, when Trump in his first administration, he
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: was trying to slide in there a little thing to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: repair the bowling alleys.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Now, again, in the big scheme of things, not a
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: big deal.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: It's like $ 250, 000. But Reince Priebus had to, I remember
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Reince Priebus having like emergency press conferences to cool the
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Republican base because they were like.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: What a waste of money. $ 250, 000 is.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Going to be spent on to repair a bowling alley
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that previous presidents have said is you can't even fix them.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: They're so broken.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So they had to scrap that project because they didn't
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: want any of your tax dollars being wasted. And again,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I would say that was a good thing that the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Republican base rose up and said, no, stop spending money
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: on stupid stuff like a bowling alley.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Especially when the president doesn't even bowl. Can you imagine
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump in a bowling shirt?
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: No.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: How great would that be?
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: No.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: You'd get like, and you'd write where the name is,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: The Donald.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised they haven't turned that into a golf simulator
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: or something like that.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: He'd love that in the White House.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Does he not play enough golf?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I think he does.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I don't even know how he does it.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: I just, you know, Kelly, these all seem like big
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: distractions right now.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: The ballroom, the fountain, and.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure this is resonating with Americans right now.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: And I know he's shifting his pivot. He's pivoting to affordability.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: And we're going to talk a lot about health care
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: affordability in the days and weeks to come.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And that's good. I think that's what Americans want to
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: hear right now.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I wish that, again, if you're a Republican, if you're
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a conservative, I should say, not a Republican, because I
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: made a description yesterday. Some people pushed back on me.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: This is the way I look. So I look at government.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: The more government you have, the less freedom you have.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And that means fiscally because they're going to tax you
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: more and so on and so forth. But so basically
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: it's the Republicans are fighting to maintain the amount of
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: freedom that we currently have. Democrats are fighting to take
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: more of your freedoms and expand government. And it's the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: conservatives that are fighting to expand freedom, shrink government and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: expand freedom. That's not what the Republicans are doing. That's
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: what the conservatives are doing. That's the three different ways
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I look at them. But when you talk about like,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: how can you get affordability under control? Government has a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: very small role in that. Now, Democrats don't want to
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: hear that. And a lot of Americans don't want to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: hear that. It's kind of like when COVID happened and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: everybody's like, well, what are they doing to prevent? Well,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: there's nothing that the government really should be doing. At
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: that point, the government should tell you the answer is
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: more exercise, better diet. Because you're going to get COVID.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: 100% of people on earth are going to be exposed
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: to COVID.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: 100%.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: And we don't have a vaccine that will prevent it.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: We have some sort of Myrna thing that will shorten
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: it possibly, but it might also put you more at
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: risk for other things. We don't know because we haven't
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: had the time to test it yet. But we do
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: know that people with great immune systems don't have problems
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Or with anything, really.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have shorter colds, shorter flus, those types
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: of things.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: So better diet, more exercise. That's not a government program.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That's a you taking care of you program, which is, again,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: about what conservatives are always about. You take care of you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Get government out of my lives. And so that's going
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: to be the answer for affordability as well. Get more
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: government out. Get rid of more bureaucracy. So we'll see
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: how that plays out as well. But interesting that John
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Roberts writes the dissent yesterday i think he's playing the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: long game because he realizes that when the democrats get
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: in there they're going to want to put term limits
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: on it and stuff and he's going to be like
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: hey i'm one of the good guys i'm.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: One of those people over here that that feels like.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: You feel okay john it but he already knew it
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: was going to pass by the way that was the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: other thing he already knew that trump had the votes
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: That's the way I look at it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: What do you think? Use the talkback feature. 642.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
• 24:06
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• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Hi there. This is Kelly Nash.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I'm told by Christopher Thompson we have some talkbacks we're
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: going to try to get to a little bit later
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: on regarding the flock cameras. Maybe we'll get some talkbacks, Christopher,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: regarding the somewhat surprising... words of Ralph Norman yesterday. Yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman up on Congress saying some, I found them
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: to be rather shocking. We'll play those for you after
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the top of the hour and see if you find
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: them shocking as well, or perhaps you already know what
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I'm referencing and you have thoughts on that as well.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: You can use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't on C-SPAN, I think I would maybe
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: label it an AI video, but it's a C-SPAN video
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: with Ralph Norman yesterday, and we will play you that audio.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and discuss that as we roll on. It is now 6.54.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks for getting your day started with South Carolina's Morning News.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: All right, I saw the headline.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It was being spread on social media, and I said,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that's not possible. That is not possible. Then I saw
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: there's a video, and I said, this video. I mean,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: with AI, they can do anything today, Christopher, anything. But
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: it's from C-SPAN. So C-SPAN is vouching for the legitimacy
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: of this. This was on the step, you know, yesterday
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they went back into session, Congress did.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I think this was last night after the first day.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Standing on the steps because they posted this 11 hours ago.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: So that would have been roughly 8 o'clock last night
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: that they posted this. Standing on the steps of Congress
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: on the way out, Ralph Norman has a gaggle around
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: him of reporters.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And in the middle of that gaggle comes this question
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: about undecided voters in South Carolina and the, to me,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: unbelievable response of one Ralph Norman.
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: What would you say to an undecided voter in South
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: Carolina ahead of November?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Vote for Ralph Norman.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Vote for Ralph Norman.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: So he's now egging on the write-in campaign that we
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: referenced yesterday?
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: That's what.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's all I can say is yes. I mean,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: when you say, what would you say to the undecided voters,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and it's not get on Team Graham, you are now
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: part of the problem. And I say that with my
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: heart broken, because I... love Ralph Norman. I think he,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: that was my guy. I voted for Ralph Norman. I
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: didn't try to make it too obvious on the air
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: leading up to it. You know, you don't want to
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: try to sway any Republicans in any direction. You want
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the Republicans to make up their own mind. Let me
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: play a little bit more of this snippet of him
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: standing there on the steps talking about it, because perhaps
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: there's a little further clarification.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: He is still very upset with Donald Trump.
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: She won the nomination. What I disagree with, she got
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: all of her money from Washington, D.C. The liberal PACs,
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: Lisa Murkowski supported her.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: That's concerning.
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: I've got an op-ed coming out tomorrow on dark money.
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: That's not right. South Carolinians should have been able to
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: pick the next senator.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Again, I say this as a Ralph Norman supporter. Dark
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: money doesn't mean that South Carolinians didn't vote. If you
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: had said that illegal aliens had voted, or if you
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: had said there was some sort of, you know, subverting
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: of the Republican vote, the fact that dark money sounds bad.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And there were a bunch of horrible ads ran against
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Ralph is one thing, but ultimately South Carolinian Republicans are
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the ones who decided Darlene.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Graham is their candidate.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: And I'll refer back to Ralph Norman's post on August 26th.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: While the outcome of this election wasn't what we worked for,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I respect the decision of South Carolina voters and wish
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: my opponent well in the weeks ahead. That's where we
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: need to be as a party. What you're flirting with
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: right now is the idea of a write-in campaign for
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a guy who got a lot of the Republican votes.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Let's just say.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: How many votes did he get? It was like 175,000
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to 193,000, if I remember right.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: That sounds right.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: So let's just say a little more than half. Let's
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: just go with 100,000 people decide to sit out this
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: election or write him in.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: That could be the difference.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: That could be the difference between Annie Andrews and Darlene Graham.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: And if that is the difference.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: One thing that everybody needs to remember, if you are
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: considering you're flirting with the devil, as they say, you're
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: flirting with an Annie Andrews candidacy because she sounds normal
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and she sounds like, you know, just like an average
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: concerned mom who happens to also be a doctor. I'll
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: take that at surface level. I won't even scratch the surface.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: What party is she in? Does that make a difference
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: in an area where we're at now, where it's a 51-49?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: If it's a 51-49 type of deal where the Democrats
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: are in charge, guess what happens to every committee?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Every single committee in D.C. gets flipped. Boom.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Just like that. Just based off her election. It's now
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: all Democrat control. The most radical of the Democrats are
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the ones that are going to be put at the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: heads of those committees. Everything in America, whether she's a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: moderate or not, is irrelevant. The fact that she allowed
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the D to be her representation changes everything. And for
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman to flirt with that idea of writing him
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: in and taking away any votes.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: That are desperately needed. Look, Again, I was a Ralph
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Norman supporter.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I recognize that Darlene Graham has some problems as a
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: candidate in the sense that she's never done it before. And,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: you know, when you say national security is not my thing.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: What the flip?
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: We're going to have to we're going to have to
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: do everything as a party to get this lady across
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the line.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: We need to we cannot let any Andrews win.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: What do you think changed with him from saying it
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: wasn't the outcome we wanted?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: However.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I respect the decision of South Carolina voters. I think
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: he just sat there and thought about it some more.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: He's ticked off that Donald Trump spent $ 800, 000 that Friday.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Before the Tuesday election.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: He said that swing, you know, the millions and millions
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: of dollars that were spent by Democrat PACs, legit Democrat PACs,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that were, they never built up Darlene Graham.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: All they did was tear down Ralph Norman.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Green energy came after him big time because he That
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: was the one reason he blocked the big, beautiful bill.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: He didn't like the fact that there were so many
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: references to green energy in it. He came to the
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: president and said, look, we don't need to spend money
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: on this. We don't need to spend money on that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: The president took those things out and green energy was enraged.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I was hopeful that, you know, do people say things
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: in the heat of the moment?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I've said things that I go, yikes, that actually came
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: out of my mouth.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: So I was.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Hoping that perhaps when this apparently started breaking last night,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: when C-SPAN put it out and then people started retweeting
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: it and whatnot, that Ralph or somebody on his staff
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: would have said, hey, hey, hey, maybe you need to
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: clean that up a little bit.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: But I'm on his social media pages now.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: 17 hours ago was his last tweet, and it was
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Jim Clyburn wants to pack the Supreme Court because he
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't like their rulings. And it's a video of Jim
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Clyburn from Meet the Press over the weekend. So he
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: has not gone on social media to clean it up.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Heat of the moment would be the day after the election,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: not a week after the election.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Well, but even like, you know, you start thinking about things.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I can get myself worked up. I get myself.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: This is funny, Christopher. You being a former athlete, I'm
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: sure as well.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I'm still worked up over a foul ball that I
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: caught in Little League. I caught it in Little League,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: but the umpire said I dropped it. And I am
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: still incensed all these years later. So I could get
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: worked up about that and I could start calling that
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: guy who's probably been dead for 15 or 20 years.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I could start calling him all.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Kinds of names because I was nine and I snagged it. Anyway, look,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I don't blame Ralph Norman for being upset. I don't,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: you know, he fought a very hard race. It was
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: an uphill battle. The machine was against him. There was
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of, like he says, dark money.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: All of it. Great. I mean, not great, but it's over.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: That has happened. Prepare for it better next time. Whoever
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: the conservatives are that are running in this state, understand
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: that the Republicans, like I talked about this earlier, Republicans
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: want to maintain the amount of freedom we currently experience.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Democrats want to shrink the amount of freedom that we
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: currently have, and conservatives are fighting to expand freedom. That
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: means shrink government. The government doesn't want to be shrunk.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: They don't want to be shrunk.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: So the conservatives are going to have to fight against
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: both the Republicans and the Democrats, usually.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: That's how that works.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: So Ralph was a conservative or is a conservative, and
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: he was fighting an uphill battle, and he lost. I
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: understand why you're upset, but you cannot, under any circumstances,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: encourage people to sit out the election and or write
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: in your name, basically handing over the.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Throwing the election.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Throwing the election. That would be a horrible legacy.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: And for any of you, and I see a lot
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: of you on social media, and you're probably going to
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: at me today.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Go ahead and at me. It doesn't bother me.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But, you know, this idea of, well, what we need
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to do is vote in Annie Andrews and let the
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: South Carolinians suffer for six years. They'll learn their lesson
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: once and for all. That's not how lessons are learned,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: by the way. That's how power is expanded. And once
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: it's expanded, it's like a tax. Once you got the tax,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: you're not going to sunset it, ever. Every new tax
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: stays around forever. Once a Democrat gets more power, whether
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: they're in office or not, that power stays with the government.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: So we need to stop the expansion of government. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the only way to do that right now is prevent
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Annie Andrews from getting in and keep Darlene Graham.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: As your senator. That's the only way this works. Only way.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: But if you've got opinions that differ, you think that
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: what he said yesterday was fantastic. You agree with it
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: or you disagree with it. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Use the talkback feature. It is 713.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: They are already adding me, Christopher, an at, not add, at.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You can at me, Christopher. At Kelly Nash Radio. They
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: don't like the fact that I said what I said
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: about Ralph Norman. But I stand by it. And if
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you want to get on the air with that, you
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: could use your talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: We'll take all positions.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Listen, we're having a little battle amongst ourselves on the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Republican side. Let's have it out on the air, shall we?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, I would tell you this, Christopher. As
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: someone who, not even a joke, in June got a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Christmas card that we had mailed out a week before Christmas.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: It came back to my house in June. Said it
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: was undeliverable.
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Now, I know that it's deliverable because I know where
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the person lives, which is just a few blocks from us,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and they're still living there.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: And the address is proper, I don't trust the postal service.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, this wasn't out of state? This was down the street?
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: No, this is in Columbia.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, my gosh.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Columbia to Columbia, it took six months for the Columbia U.S.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Postal Service to decide it was undeliverable. By the way,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: my sister-in-law works at the U.S. Postal Service, so I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: should try to be as kind as possible to them.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: But knowing that the U.S.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Postal Service has lots of problems and has for many
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: years with delivering, I would never vote by mail. my
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: vote is far too important for me to just stick
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: it in a mailbox and hope for the best. And that's,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: that's almost what you're doing. Just kind of like throw
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: it out into the wind and hope it gets there.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I would never vote by mail. However, in South Carolina,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: We have a mail-in voting law that you can vote
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: by mail if you're disabled or you're caring for a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: sick person or you have to work that day and
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: they won't let you out for some reason or you're
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: going to be out of the country or whatever and
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you can't vote.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: You can use any of those as a reason to
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: mail in your ballot. However....
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: They also stuck in, if you're older than 65, you
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: can mail in your ballot. That got the attention of
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: younger people. And the younger voters started a lawsuit in
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: 2023 saying, listen, why 65?
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Why not 60? Why not 50? Why not 10 or 18?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Why can't we have access to it that way?
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Well, the Fourth Circuit agreed with them. So now we're
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: going to have to figure out what to do. Chip
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Campson's the guy who wrote this bill originally, and he's
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: from the Isle of Palms. And he's saying, and I'm
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: just reading what it says in the Post and Courier,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: if the challenge to the early voting system is successful,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the state legislature should scrap the no-excuse mail-in voting altogether,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: thinks state Senator Chip Campson, Republican, Isle of Palms, who
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: wrote the state's early voting law. The alternative, letting anyone
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: vote by mail for any reason, would be the worst
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: thing you could do, he said, because it makes the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: state election system less secure.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Agreed.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Again, I'm not a big fan of mail-in voting.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: We had about 100,000 South Carolinians vote absentee in 2024,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: which I think is a pretty small percentage. We had
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: several million people vote, didn't we, in 2024 for the president?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump himself got over a million votes.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: So 100,000 is a small percentage of people. I don't
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: know how many of them would miss it if you said,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you know, you're older than 65, but you don't have
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: a documented reason why you would be missing the going
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to the polls other than you just don't feel like
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: standing in line. I always say democracy is not supposed
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: to be easy. You should have to work for it
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit. This idea that we just got to
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: make it easier and easier and easier for people to just,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you know, why don't we just tweet it? Why don't
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: we just tweet my vote? And then somebody can go
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and just count the hashtags. Hashtag Trump. Hashtag Harris. And
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: then we'll just count who got the most hashtags and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: then there's your president.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: You could do it that way.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Of course, then it would be completely insecure because then
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: you got all the bots and whatnot. But this idea
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of just trying to make it easier and easier and
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: easier for everybody to vote, to me.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: It's lost on me. I mean, do I like standing
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: in line? No, I certainly don't.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: And I will always remember the 2012 disaster that we
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: had in Richland County, for those of you who didn't
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: live in Richland County then or ever.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Lucky you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: But it appears even today to have been a concerted
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: effort in Richland County that day to screw Republicans. And
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: it seemed like, and I can't remember what the church was,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: but there was like two churches or something that were
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: like right next to each other.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: I want to say somewhere near Forest Acres.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: And there was like The, the count, the district that
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: voted Republican heavy, they had their five machines removed and
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: they were left with one. And those five were then
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: moved into the Democrat heavy precinct, literally like across the street.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And where I voted, I ended up because back then
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I did the morning. Well, I still do the morning show,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: but I used to do an afternoon show. And so
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I did the morning show. I went, I stood in
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: line to vote and I stood in line from 11
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: till two and I didn't get a chance to vote.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: And I came back and I complained on the air.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: And our old friend Rob Sanders was busting my chops. Like,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: you've got to vote. And so after I got off
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the air at 7, I went back and I stood
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: in line because I was in line before 8 o'clock,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I think was the cutoff at that time.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was 6.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I got off the air at 6. That must have
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: been what it was. I got off at 6 and
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I got in line before 7. I voted at like 1230.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Wow. Well, good for you.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: And guess what happened? They passed voting. They passed the
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: penny tax in Richland County that year.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: That was the issue.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, that was the issue.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: It wasn't the people on the ballot. It was the
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: penny sales tax.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: But, again, I would much rather go and stand in
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: line for eight hours like I did that day and
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: have my vote be actually counted than just hope that
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: it gets counted when they mail it in.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: That's how I feel about it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: How strong a case do these younger– they're arguing that
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: they're discriminated against because of their age.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: How strong a case is that?
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Well, again, according to this, the Fourth Circuit ruled with them, correct?
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Let's see.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: The district court dismissed their argument, but a three-judge panel
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: on the Fourth Circuit agreed with them. Appeal ruling on
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: August 18th that the 65 and older section of the
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: law is, in fact, unconstitutional. By granting voters age 65
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and older an unconditional access to the absentee by mail voting...
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: While conditioning the same option for anyone under the age
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of 65 creates an eligibility category, documentation, and a rigid deadline,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the state allocates voting opportunities unequally based solely on age,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: says the U.S. Circuit Chief Judge Roger Gregory. So now
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: they're saying this is probably not going to affect this election,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: by the way. So for those of you planning on
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: voting by mail, A, you're lazy, but B— you still
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: will have that opportunity here because they're not going to
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: make any laws that are changed near an election. But again,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I would highly encourage you, get your butt to the polls.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: It's 725.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Your news, traffic, weather, and information stations.
• 42:34
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• 42:38
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• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Christopher Thompson tells me we're getting talkbacks on the flock cameras.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Is one of those talkbacks, Christopher, from Ron DeSantis? Because
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I know he had something to say yesterday.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: It is not. Ron does not wait in.
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: So we'll get Ron's. He doesn't even have to use
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the talkback feature because he has a big microphone. But
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the rest of you can use the talkback feature. We
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: will get to that next.
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: Morning News.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Everybody talking about the flock cameras. And we talked about
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff earlier this morning. And you might
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: have heard it in the South Carolina News update there
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: that another Colleton County, I guess it was Sheriff's Department employee,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: was fired yesterday. And I guess maybe being arrested for
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: illegal use of the flock cameras. And that follows one
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: that had been fired earlier for like 2,700 violations.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: And it's getting out of hand. with the police and
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: the flock cameras.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: And Christopher, you said we got a couple of different
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: people using their talkbacks this.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Morning, huh?
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: I'm fully with you, Kelly. I think the argument that
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: the flock cameras are going to help the police crack
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: down on crime is a Trojan horse of an argument.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: You don't think you have anything to hide until the
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: government decides that you do. In the case of 2020,
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: like you said, going to church, you wouldn't be able
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: to now, and they'd fine you and put you in jail.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: The same people who would five years ago decry china's
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: mass surveillance are now supporting flock cameras it's a joke yeah.
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: About those flock cameras i think police departments have already
• 44:19
  Speaker 13: proven over and over again that they can't be trusted
• 44:23
  Speaker 13: with the flock cameras get rid of the darn things
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: it's warrantless searches is what it is all right we.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Got some passionate people on the line and if you
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: missed the conversation in the six o'clock hour i was
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: making the point he referenced the church thing and i
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: was saying that You know, during COVID, they said it
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: was illegal for us to gather as a church.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm going to church.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be with my church family and the
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: government can't stop me. But with the flock cameras, as
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: we pointed out, they would definitely know I.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Went to church.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: They would see me on the highways and they would
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: then send me tickets and or possibly arrest me for
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: violating their COVID mandates. Again, the more power that the
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: government has, the less freedoms the people have. And we
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: talked about Oconee County advancing South Carolina's first ever ordinance. Quote,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: it's protection from mass surveillance is the bill. It's already
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: cleared the first reading on August 18th. Their final vote
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: will be September 15th. So we're just about two weeks
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: away from possibly the first county in South Carolina that's
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: coming up with something. I wanted to play a little
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: snippet here. This was, I think, yesterday, Ron DeSantis, the
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Florida governor, talking about his position and why he's putting
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: a pause on the flock cameras. Don't tell me I'm
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: going to have an error on this. Computers around here
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: are so frustrating. All right, well, I guess I can't
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: play it. But he did say, he said some really
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: interesting things. He has a big microphone, Christopher, but I
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: can't play it on the air because we have outdated equipment, apparently.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: Well, he says it's out of control, and he said
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: he supports giving law enforcement tools to investigate crimes, but
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: he does not want Florida to become a surveillance state.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: He used those words specifically.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: You are correct. And so that was dated yesterday. Local agency...
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: permit holders, we are going to put a pause on
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: all of that while they kind of review it. Now,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Ron also had an interesting angle, I thought, in the
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: sense that he called flock cameras are artificial intelligence. And
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: he wanted an AI Bill of Rights passed in Florida,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I guess, last year, and it kind of got held up.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: But that would, according to him, the bill that he
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: wanted would have prevented them from doing these types of things.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: So there's another interesting angle. I hadn't really considered the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: fact that they are, in fact, artificial intelligence.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: But that's what's gathering all your information. Yes.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's one thing to read your license plate reader,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: but that's people's arguments against the privacy invasion that these
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: are creating is because AI is gathering all this information
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: and creating a profile of you, where you travel, what
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: you do, who's in your car with you, etc.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: To me, I don't understand... I guess I do understand.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I can see somebody thinking the government is here for
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: my good, and if I'm not violating any laws, why
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: would I not want this? It's going to just help
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: keep bad people off the streets. But then you forget,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: and you shouldn't forget this. Maybe we had some time
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: in our lives before COVID where you could actually say,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like the government's really targeting me, although
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: we did have examples of it earlier. Specifically, like when
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you start thinking about journalists and stuff during Obama's era,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: when Obama, what was her name? The CBS reporter. And
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: she came home and found they had turned on her
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: laptop and they were going through her files. I mean,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the government, because of their far reaching abilities, can target whomever.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: mold conversations, do all these types of things. And again,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the government is not your congressman and your senator and
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: your president. The government is the bureaucracy that's in there.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: That's who's using these types of weapons against us. And
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: that's who would be using these flock cameras. And, you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: during COVID, we should all remember the kinds of restrictions
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: that they wanted to put on our lives and how
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: they were encouraging you to rat each other out. Rat
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: on your neighbor if you see them leaving the house
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: without a mask. Rat on them if it looks like
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: they're having people come over for Thanksgiving.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: That's what they wanted us to do with each other.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: That is, again, I'm all for limiting the scope of
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: government as much as possible. If you feel different, let
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: us know. Or if you agree, I like those two people.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: They agreed with us, Christopher. You can do that as
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: well on the Talkback feature.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: It's 742.
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM and
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: There's a headline in the state newspaper. South Carolina is
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: paying Kent State. $ 1. 3 million to come to Williams-Brice Stadium.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of money, but I don't see anything
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: on what Clemson's paying their lay down opponents this year.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I did see that last year they paid Troy $ 1. 5
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: million to come in.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: So it's big money to come get butt whooped.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: That's the price of doing business in college football these
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: days and if.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I remember was troy i think troy was ahead in
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: that game at one point against clemson so you you're
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: not doing you're not fulfilling your contract you're supposed to
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: lay down and let us whoop that tail so anyway
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: i wish we had kept the games with north carolina
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: and you know i wish that all of those games
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: were competitive.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: They they won't come back yeah no it's that that
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: era is over because these conferences are demanding more and
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: more games and TV contracts being what they are, yet
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: you only get a couple of gimmies now.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Well, Christopher Thompson's the expert on that, and he'll have
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the best Gamecock coverage starting Saturday morning.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: What, 9 a.m.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Is when it starts? 9.30 is when we'll start.
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: 9.30.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: All right. 9.30 Saturday morning.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Be listening here on the iHeartRadio app on WVOC in Columbia.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: It is now 7.48.
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: Anthony down in Charleston. The flock camera thing, what everybody
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: doesn't understand, that's the subject they're pushing to the masses
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: to talk about.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: But what we need to talk about is Axion.
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: They're taking the same type of software that's in flock.
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: They're integrated into Axion. Axion is the cameras, all dash cameras,
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: all body cameras. So instead of having a camera on
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: a pole, they're going to be driving around in all
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: the police cars and on the vests.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: All right, Anthony in the low country. Thanks for listening
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: on 94.3 WSC Charleston. Appreciate you using the talkback feature
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: on your iHeartRadio app as well to try to scare
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: the pants off more people. If we're just going to
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: pile on, you know, and that's one of those things where,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: you know, you.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Think that's bad. Wait till you hear about this.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: You got action. But also, have you talked about record systems,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: which is. Also using roadway intelligence and vehicle recognition platforms.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Also, Verkata.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: That's used by most of the schools around here and
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: businesses to use AI to monitor your behaviors.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: What about Motorola? Also, Vigilant Solutions.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: They're operating large-scale fingerprinting and license plate tracking databases. I mean,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: we have multiple AI companies right now that are stockpiling
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: your data.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: And yes, Flock is the number one.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: As far as, because again, we were talking about the
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: number one consumer is the HOA with over 6,000 HOAs
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: now in on the flock cameras and they have no
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: restrictions on what they can do. But whether it's governments
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: or HOAs or schools or just dash cams on your vehicle.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: License plate recognition is one thing. Facial recognition, that's a
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: whole other ballgame.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all coming. And that's why, again, we
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: tried to play the Ron DeSantis clip earlier. His idea
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: for an AI Bill of Rights, I think, is important.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I think that's something that our legislature should be talking about.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe you agree. Let us know on the Talkback feature.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: It is now 7.55.
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  Speaker 8: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: 803.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Kelly Nash here. Christopher Thompson there. Christopher will put together
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: the South Carolina's Morning News podcast. So if you missed
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: any parts of the show, you want to hear the
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: earlier discussions about flock cameras or anything else, you can
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: go back and listen to it in its entirety.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: It starts about 915, 930 or something like that. He'll
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: have that up.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I also do a daily podcast that I get up
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: by 6 a.m. called The National Briefing. And we talked
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: about flock cameras earlier this morning on the show, but
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: on the podcast, I addressed another hot topic, data centers.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: Nobody wants them. Absolutely nobody wants a data center.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: And I know that because Dana Bash, or is it
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Dana Bash?
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Is it a data center or is it a data center?
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: Either way, she gave us the polls.
• 53:29
  Speaker 10: Question is whether or not you oppose data center construction
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: in your local community. All voters, 70 percent, 60 percent
• 53:37
  Speaker 10: of Republicans, 76 percent of independents, 76 percent of Democrats.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: So nobody wants them.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: And the reason they don't want them, I would argue, Christopher,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: is because people are getting bad information online. And there
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: have been some bad deals. There are some data centers
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that suck, and they suck the water out of your community.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: They suck the energy out of the community. They make
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: everything more expensive, and they offer virtually no benefits to
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: the local community. That's not the data center's fault. That's
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: your local community leaders.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: For making the agreement and for putting it in the
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: wrong place.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: And so yesterday we had, now a lot of people
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: are upset, Spartanburg is going to get a.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Data center, Valara Holdings.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: This is being built in the former Kohler kitchen and
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: bath manufacturing plant. And yesterday, the South Carolina Public Service
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Commission ruled in favor of Valara that they are not
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: subject to South Carolina laws when it comes to building
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: their own utility company. to provide all the power for
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: them since none of the power that they are going
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: to be providing is going to go back into the community.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: It is all self.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It's just, we're just monitoring. It's just for us. This
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: is our power. As long as we're not polluting the
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: community in any way, we can do that. Now I'll
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: point out that, you know, Donald Trump yesterday, and then again,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: JD Vance yesterday, we're making the argument that Americans should
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: want data centers. And I think that usually that argument
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: is based off of the race with China.
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: And that is not going to be enough. That's not,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: but I'm just telling you, I know Americans, I've been
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: one my whole life. We don't, we don't like to sacrifice.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: We don't, we're very nimby people, not in my backyard.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Don't put a data center here. If it's going to
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: be loud and obtrusive and it just drives up my
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: energy costs, what the hell's in it for me?
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, we're going to win the AI battle.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: They don't even really understand what winning the AI battle means,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to try to outline that here.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: But I will point out that we have communities all
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: throughout the Fruited Plains that are loving their data centers
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: because their leaders cut good deals. Prince William County, Virginia.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: How would you like this? Your taxes in Prince William County,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Virginia have gone down 82%. You like the sound of that?
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Love the sound of that.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: How about New Albany, Ohio? New Albany, Ohio got $ 165
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: million for schools and their taxes cut 50%. DeKalb County, Illinois,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: their taxes went from 11.5% to 7.9% while adding $ 19
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: million a year for school funding. I'll also point out
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: that when these data centers come in, look, they're not
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: going to create a lot of jobs, honestly. They're going
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: to create some construction jobs when they're building it, but
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: later on, But that's actually somewhat good news. So if
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: you're looking at like, say, because we talked about the
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: polling the other day about how people love the idea
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: of an Amazon center coming in, a distribution center. Well,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: that's thousands of people that are going to be using
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: your streets that might not have been there to begin with.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: That means more people going to your schools. And unless
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: you have extra funding for those schools. then you're creating
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a crisis for yourself. Yes, they
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: bring in some tax revenues, but at the same time,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: they do put a strain on your infrastructure. With these,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: if it's done right, no strain on the infrastructure, no
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: more traffic on the roads, no more kids going to
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: the schools. It's just pure cash going to the bottom line. Now,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I also know that a lot of people are very concerned,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: not just about the energy costs, but they're also concerned
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: about the water That seems to be a big problem.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: And it is a big problem. Farmers must win.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Farmers must always be the priority because if you can't eat,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how good your AI is. True.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: You know, so we got to.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Make sure that the water is there and the water
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: is there because these plants do not have to use
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: potable water. They can use the literal waste water. They
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: can make it work with that. So before it's treated
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: at the treatment center, you could actually take all that
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: stuff and flush it right into them, and they'll use
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: that to cool off their systems. Or they can have
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: them constructed so that they just keep recycling the same
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: amount of water over and over and over again, which
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: is what we've seen lots and lots of these sites do.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Now, they weren't doing that originally.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Well, if we had two just open the other day,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: they aren't doing it. Why would a community be so stupid?
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: You don't have to make it this way. Now, again,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: if you're a company, you would like to make it
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: as affordable as possible. And if you've got some suckers
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: who happen to be your mayor, your governor, your whomever.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Saying, we'll do anything to get you here. Okay, well
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: then get ready to do anything.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: But if you have people who are willing to just
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: negotiate reasonably, the data centers can be a huge benefit
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: to the community. I love the idea of me paying
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: 83% less in taxes.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: I love that. I do.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: I still don't want one in my backyard, but I
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: don't want a car plan either.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you a question. If we could
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: prove that there's no resources coming out of your environment,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: there's no water being taken, there's no electricity being added
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: to the grid, and we're actually going to have to
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: improve the grid that the company is going to pay
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: for so that in the future, instead of having the
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: outdated lines that we currently have, you have fiber optics
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: throughout the community, they're going to pay for.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: All of that.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: They're going to lower your taxes by 50% and everything
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: should be better.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: And there's no noise. It's quiet as a mouse. Why
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: wouldn't you want it? Okay.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Well, when they, when they make a data center like that,
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: I'm all for it. They haven't yet.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Well, please, please go take a look at some of
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: these ones that we're just talking about. There are dozens
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: of them across the country right now. But again, we're
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: being told, don't look at Loudoun County. Don't look at
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Prince William County. Don't look at New Albany, Ohio. Don't
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: look at DeKalb County. I was looking at one in
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Washington State. This one here, they built this one years ago.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: 2006 is when they started building it. At that point,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: it was $ 3. 12 per thousand for your homeowners or for
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: your property taxes. By 2016, it had been dropped from $ 3. 12
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: down to $ 1. 97. Today, it's $ 0. 87 per thousand.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: Where is that one located? That's what I'm saying. There
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: are places for these. If a county plops one down
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: in the middle of, well, like the story we had
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: in Spartanburg, where it was going to be near residential areas.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: That's the wrong place to put it.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: There are industrial parks where these would be perfectly placed.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: This one, I haven't been to this one. It's in
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: a town called Quincy, Washington. And again, the neighbors there say,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: makes no noise, just drove down our taxes by two-thirds.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of great schools now. We got
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of great roads. As a matter of fact,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: 95% of the roads have been repaved in the last year.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: excuse me, the last 10 years, because they had to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: redo the grid underneath there for everybody. So everybody's getting
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: better internet, better this, better that. And there's no, they
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: got a new fire station that was built, all new
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: fire trucks put in by this company. Here's the, at
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, what I'm saying is, I'm not,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think that you should be asked to make
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: a sacrifice. You shouldn't have to live next to a loud, polluting,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: drives up your energy, sucks the water out of the environment.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: What, what you should be excited about though, is that
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: we are currently winning the battle by months, not even years,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: by months against China and whoever wins that battle. And
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: that's a continually ongoing battle, by the way, that's not like,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: it's going to be more like the cold war. That
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: thing's going to go on for decades, probably the rest
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: of our lives. If you're 50, it's probably going to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: go on the rest of your life, this AI battle.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: And whoever controls the AI actually can control the other country.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: That's where the problems become. If China gets ahead of us,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: we have a problem. But I'm not asking you to sacrifice.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying make your town a hellhole in order
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: for America to win that battle. What I'm saying is
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: our politicians... need to do a better job of understanding
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: how to negotiate these deals. Go talk to the town
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: leaders in these communities. Find out what they negotiated. I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: want to replicate what they did. Success leaves big footprints.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: We can walk in those footprints and have fantastic data
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: centers that are just a great contribution to the community,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: or we can get some of the hell holes that
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: we saw in Tennessee and Georgia. Those things suck, and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even want them in my state, never mind
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: my community.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: So there's that. Anyway, trying to just change the perspective
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit. If you've got thoughts on it, use
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: the Talkback feature. It's on the iHeartRadio app, and it's
• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I was trolling a little bit on social media yesterday.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Everybody was still reeling from Donald Trump calling it Lake America.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: And I pointed out Trump's not the only one who
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: likes to rename things, e.g. Columbus Day, the homeless, illegal aliens.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Aunt Jemima, women, others chimed in, Latinx, birthing persons, chest feeders.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe you have talkbacks on that as well, whether you
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: want to talk about some of the things that the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Democrats have renamed in the not-too-distant past. Or you want
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: to talk about the flock cameras. People are talking about that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about what's going on with these
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: data centers. You want to talk about what's going on
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: with Ralph Norman. I understand we're getting some talkbacks on that.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: We'll try to get to more of those coming up
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  Speaker 2: in just a minute. It's 818.
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  Speaker 11: What you guys said about Ralph Norman is true, and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 11: he really would want us to write his name in
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 11: instead of voting and supporting Darlene.
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  Speaker 3: He just showed us his true colors, and I'm glad
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: he didn't win.
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  Speaker 4: All right, that's off the Talkback feature.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure who she was, but appreciate her taking
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: some time to use the Talkback feature. And, you know,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: if you're using the Talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I'd love it if you named the town that you're
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: listening in. You know, I'm excited that I get to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: do a weekend show that airs mostly on the West Coast.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: Sometimes we get Talkback features.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Um, but especially when I was doing the night show
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: for 94, three WSC and a WVOC here in Columbia,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: that would be like somebody from like California or something.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, they're checking us out in
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Sacramento or something like that. So it's always cool when
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: we find out where you're listening. And if you want
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: to give your name, I understand if you don't as well.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: What she's referencing is we had played a clip from
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman from yesterday. I think this was last evening
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: when he was leaving Congress. Yesterday was the first day
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: of the House being in session. And as he was
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: walking out, a gaggle of reporters gathered around him, and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: they were talking about the primary loss that he experienced
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: here in South Carolina. And at one point, one of
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: the ladies, reporters, asked him, what would your advice be
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: to undecided voters in South Carolina. And he said, right,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman, which I really was stunned by that. And
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I've been waiting for him to kind of clean that
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: up somewhere, maybe on social media, and maybe he will.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: He said he has an op-ed piece today that's supposed
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: to be coming out regarding dark money and how it
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: affected our primary. The only thing I will say about
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: dark money is while the motivation behind it may be dark,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: It still has to influence people. There is no indication
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: that our election system was tinkered with in any way
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: other than liberals used campaign dollars to make Ralph look
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: like something that he's not.
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  Speaker 5: And a lot of times there'll be a negative backlash
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: against that type of advertising. In this case, it seemed
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: to work.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, correct. Good point, Christopher.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: And typically what would happen is it would suppress the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: vote as well, because both sides say, you know what,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: if they're both losers, they're both bad people, then why
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: would I even get off the couch and go vote?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: In this instance, it did.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: We had more people turn out for the vote in
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the special runoff than we did in the special primary.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it generated more interest.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: So there was definitely a ton of interest. And I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: say it as a Ralph Norman supporter, someone who voted
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: for Ralph Norman. I wished he had won. I didn't
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: want to make that obvious during the campaign, but that's
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: who I'm usually going to side with the more conservative.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: But very disappointing to hear him suggest that that is
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: a viable option for you to write in his name.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: And again, he had about 175,000 supporters. If 100,000 or
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: so just write his name in or decide to not
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: vote for Darlene Graham, that could be the difference as
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: we move into 2027. And if you get a Democrat
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: out of South Carolina, that might be all it took
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: was one extra vote to swing every single committee. All
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: the committees would change. Every one of them. Ted Cruz,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: you're bumped. All of them would be bumped. And it
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: would be replaced with radical, lunatic left people. And I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: know some of you who want to support Dr. Andrews
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: would say, well, she's not a lunatic.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: Guess what?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: As a freshman, she's not going to be the chair
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: of anything. It's going to be the lunatics that chair.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders will be your chair.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren, et cetera.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: That's who she would be empowering simply by being a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Democrat elected to Senate. It then goes to the far left. So, no,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: it is not an option to sit this out. You
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: must support. If you're a conservative, you must support Darlene
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Graham because the option is there.
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  Speaker 4: Deadly, I would say, to the Constitution.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Because, again, the DSA is the side of the party
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: that's got all the power right now. They've got all
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: the heat behind them, and they're the ones calling for
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: the ending of the Constitution, the ending of the presidency,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the ending of the Senate, ironically, and so many other
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: horrible things.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, that's what I think. Let's know what you think.
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  Speaker 4: Use the talkback feature.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you think that that was a bold move by
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  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman yesterday, and you want to disagree with me.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from it. I'd love to hear
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  Speaker 2: from all of you. on the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 4: It's 829.
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  Speaker 8: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday and throughout the weekend, it seemed like the left
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  Speaker 2: was having a meltdown. I saw people, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: proud to delete the Google Maps app.
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  Speaker 4: And I think Apple Maps.
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  Speaker 2: As well also went along with Donald Trump in renaming
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  Speaker 2: Lake Ontario Lake America.
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  Speaker 4: They hated that. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Who is he to violate this longstanding tradition of calling
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  Speaker 2: it Lake Ontario? And like I said at the time,
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  Speaker 2: he could have called it Lake Dontario just to tick
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  Speaker 2: you off even further. But Trump, I pointed out yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: isn't the only one who likes to rename things. We've
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  Speaker 2: got Columbus Day has been renamed. The homeless are now
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: the unhoused. Illegal aliens. Aunt Jemima is now something, I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: forget the name of it now. Women, just the word
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: women is no longer a definition that we can agree on.
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  Speaker 2: So the left loves to rename things. And I understand, Christopher,
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  Speaker 2: we're getting people on the talk.
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  Speaker 4: Back line now.
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  Speaker 12: What about when they took mothers out and tried to
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  Speaker 12: rename it something else?
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  Speaker 9: What.
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  Speaker 12: It was so stupid, I can't remember what they were
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  Speaker 12: going to call it.
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  Speaker 4: Birthing parent? That's right.
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  Speaker 12: Or something like that? As if dudes could have babies?
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  Speaker 12: You know, they should change all that. It shouldn't be
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  Speaker 12: male or female. It should be, if you were born
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  Speaker 12: with a penis, you use this door. If you weren't,
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  Speaker 12: you use that door.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I thought that we had kind of settled
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  Speaker 2: the argument, Christopher, going back to 1990. And in 1990,
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  Speaker 2: you might remember this hot debate, but this young man
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  Speaker 2: settled it with Arnold Schwarzenegger when he proudly stood up
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  Speaker 2: and said this.
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  Speaker 3: Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that ended it.
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  Speaker 3: Kindergarten cop.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was the end of the debate.
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  Speaker 4: But no, they still want to argue about it.
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  Speaker 2: The left continues to push the idea of redefining words.
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  Speaker 4: Vaccinations.
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  Speaker 2: Up until COVID, vaccination meant that you did not get
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: the disease, the measles, polio, whatever it was. You weren't
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: supposed to get it if you were vaccinated. They knew
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have something that would stop you from getting COVID,
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  Speaker 2: but they called it the COVID vaccine because if you
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  Speaker 2: called it the COVID shot, like they called the flu shot,
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  Speaker 2: the flu shot never said you weren't going to get
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  Speaker 2: the flu.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody knew that.
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  Speaker 2: They knew that it would help you if they happened
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  Speaker 2: to guess right on the strain that year. It would
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  Speaker 2: help you fight that line off. But it didn't inoculate you,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: nor would the COVID vaccine. But then they called it
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: a vaccine. And then people who grew up with the
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  Speaker 2: understanding of what a vaccine is said, oh, well, then
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  Speaker 2: I won't get COVID. They changed definitions. If you go
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: and look at the book 1984, I don't know, is
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  Speaker 2: that still required reading? They probably banned it. That's probably
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: on the banned list.
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  Speaker 3: I would think it would be more relevant now than
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  Speaker 3: it ever has been.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're—I'm saying when I was a kid, from
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  Speaker 2: what I remember, that was like on the reading list,
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  Speaker 2: like where we had to read.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we had to, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to understand how a government can become tyrannical. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that they do in that book
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  Speaker 2: is they redefine words. And so if you can't have
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: an understanding of what words mean— We literally have a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court justice who can't define a woman. That's not
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: like an exaggerated, like you would think that's an SNL clip.
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  Speaker 2: That really happened not that long ago. So we can't
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: like birthing people or whatever. idea of we got to
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: bend over backwards to accommodate everybody and everything.
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  Speaker 4: And it's ridiculous.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: We're living in crazy times, but that's why it's more
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: important than ever that we all strengthen ourselves and re
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: come together, use the talkback feature and encourage each other.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: We're not going on the crazy train. We're staying planted
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  Speaker 2: in real ville. Y'all want to get on the crazy
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: train and go to Looney town off. You go, we're
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: staying in real ville. Christopher Thompson and I will stay here.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: You want to join us?
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  Speaker 4: Do so on the Talkback feature.
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  Speaker 3: We're planting our flag.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. It's now 838.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning, Kelly. Calling for Columbia, South Carolina, Richland County.
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  Speaker 9: Why is it such a bad idea for him to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: advocate that we write in his name? Just curious.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate the talk.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: Back myself on the election and politics.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Educating themselves on the election and politics. And so that
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: might mean that they're new to talk radio.
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  Speaker 4: We celebrate new listeners. Thank you.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: You should say if you're a new listener or someone.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: who has not been experiencing a lot of new talk
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: radio in your life. We are so excited that you've
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: decided to check us out and start your day. Now,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: the clip that we're talking about, I don't know if
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: I've queued it up completely properly, but this is yesterday
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  Speaker 2: on the steps outside of Congress after their first day
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  Speaker 2: in session, Representative Ralph Norman standing there with a gaggle
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: of reporters, and a lady reporter asks him a question.
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  Speaker 1: Before Tuesday, the vote.
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  Speaker 3: What would you say to an undecided voter in South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina ahead of November?
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  Speaker 1: Vote for Ralph Norman.
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  Speaker 2: All right. And that's the clip that we played. What
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  Speaker 2: would you say to an undecided voter in South Carolina?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: He said, vote for Ralph Norman. And what I'm saying
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: is you, that is, that is a bad answer.
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  Speaker 5: Seemingly encouraging the write-in campaign, which has been mentioned on
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: social media. A lot of people, you know, with some
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: sour grapes after that runoff saying, I'm not voting for
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: Darlene Graham. I'll write in Ralph Norman's name in November. I, I, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would remove the word seemingly from your statement. That's exactly
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: what he's saying, isn't it? He's saying, write me in.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: It sounds like it. Yeah.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: So that is a way to diminish Darlene Graham's vote totals. And,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and just all honesty, I don't think that it even
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: takes a political analyst to recognize that Darlene Graham is, is,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: is new to politics. It's going to be a rough haul.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Has she set a debate yet with Annie Andrews?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: I don't think that they've set one yet. I don't
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: think so. I know that the.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Andrews campaign is going to make a lot of hay
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: out of that, that when they finally do get her
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: on stage, they're going to ask her all about, is
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: national security now your thing? She's got challenges. Now, she
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: should win. I'm just being honest. She should win.
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  Speaker 4: We live in.
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina, which is roughly a plus 10 state, meaning
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: there's about 55% to 45% when you look at Democrat,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Republican voter turnouts. That's the way it just goes for
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: the last 10 years or so.
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  Speaker 4: She should win.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: But if you get enough people who are hardcore voters,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Republicans either sitting out the race or in
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: a protest voting for a libertarian or voting for somebody
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  Speaker 2: else as a write-in, writing in Ralph Norman's name, then
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  Speaker 2: you could lose the seat. And the reason I say
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: that you can't have that, even if you like Annie Andrews,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: if you think, wow, she's a common sense Democrat, We
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: haven't seen one of those in a long time. The
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: problem is it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not Annie Andrews that you're voting for.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: You're then voting for Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whoever the furthest left is. Those are the senators that
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: will then take over all of the committees if the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Democrats were able to get the Senate next year. And
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: once that happens, all of your conservatives, if you're like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman, you probably like Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz is
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: immediately fired. Ted, you're fired. Get out of here. Go
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: sit in the back of the room. So that's what
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: happens to the conservatives. They lose their voice in the Senate,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a wrap, and it all goes to the
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  Speaker 2: far left. If you write in Ralph Norman's name, you are,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, writing in Bernie Sanders.
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  Speaker 4: How's that sound?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: When Donald Trump says, if you get out and vote
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: like I'm on the ballot, vote like you're voting either
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  Speaker 2: for Darlene Graham or you're voting for Bernie Sanders because
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: that's really the option.
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  Speaker 4: The way I see it. So again, I was a
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  Speaker 4: Ralph Norman supporter in the campaign.
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  Speaker 2: And if Ralph Norman decides to run for another office,
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  Speaker 2: I will probably be all about Ralph Norman. Again, I
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  Speaker 2: tend to lean further to the right. That being said,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: you're not going to find a bigger Darlene Graham supporter
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: than me right now because we need her to win.
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  Speaker 2: And what is it like 60 days from.
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  Speaker 4: Now or something?
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  Speaker 3: It's not long.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a couple of months from now. So there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot riding. I got to take a break. It's 847.
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  Speaker 8: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
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  Speaker 8: Morning News.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, most Americans are sad that Dolly Parton
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  Speaker 4: has passed.
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  Speaker 2: And the president is one of her fans who agreed
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: that the flag should be lowered to half staff. And
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: that he made that order that we're going to do
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  Speaker 2: it for a week in her honor. She contributed greatly
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: to charitable organizations throughout this country. And it was a
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: nonpartisan way. And I know there's a lot of people
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: on the right who want to point out that she
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: was a part of a joke with Jane Fonda and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: what's her face from nine to five?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Lily Tomlin.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Lily Tomlin took the pot shot at Trump and Dolly Parton, what,
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to have kicked her in the shins? I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: don't know what she was supposed to have done at
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: that point. But either or, she's been a nonpartisan figure
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: her entire life. And The fact that Trump was a fan,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: and most Americans are fans, maybe even not of her music,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: just of what she's done. Now, I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: more Democrats hadn't come up with this idea, but you
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: got a mayor in Mississippi, a Democrat, who says that
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  Speaker 2: he's against it. Although she's a great person, we're diminishing
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: the honor. And now you've got, it says, a Texas pastor.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought maybe this is James Tallarico, who also
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: going around raising the flags back up. and saying that
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: this should only be for people who have served in
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: the military. I will point out, Whitney Houston had the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: flag lowered to half-staff.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Rosa Parks had it lowered to half-staff. Yogi Berra. And
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: if that's not enough, are you kidding me? Clarence Clemons
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: in 2011, from the big man, from the E Street Band,
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  Speaker 2: got it lowered to half-staff.
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  Speaker 4: Sinatra, Elvis Presley. There's a long way. We go back
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: to 77 with Elvis Presley.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is not an a new thing where
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: people who have had a huge impact on culture u.s
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: culture get the flags lowered and for you to now
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: just come up with this random protest just shows again
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: it's performative That's what the Democrats are.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: They're performative.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: This is not a real issue. Most Americans are not
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: walking around. Most Americans probably don't even notice that it's
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: at half staff. But if they do, they say, oh,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: poor Dolly Parton. She was a great person. We should
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: maybe think better and think more like, how can I
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: be a giver? How can my life have substance like
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: her life had substance? I didn't think that about Clarence Clements,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, as divided as we are as a country right now,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's been almost universal, the love for Dolly
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: Parton these last few days.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what's to, I mean, whether you're talking about,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: you know, Kid Rock and Eminem both agree on her.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody agrees Dolly Parton was an awesome person. So we
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: were better when she was with us. And what a
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: great role model.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: Okay. We're going to take a pause here.
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  Speaker 8: Boom.
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  Speaker 4: We return to Realville tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Morning at 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 4: Have a great day.