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Chris Martin - Balancing Life and Leadership · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my Dad's Show.
• 0:06
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• 0:13
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• 1:36
  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it is Casey Jaycox, again with quarterback dad Casper in season four.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: We're almost done with this season, which is freaking fantastic.
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: And our next guest he actually provided some self therapy for me right at right before we started recording.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: Because, dad's, you know as the host, you might see me as the polished one asking the questions, but I lose my part of my friends.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: I lose my shit too.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: And our next guest, chris Martin, helped me walk me off the ledge, but he's the vice president of strategic sourcing and government services at a fantastic company called Worldwide Technology.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: He also was a former swim captain at UMass Amherst.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: We're going to learn all about that.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: He also was a co-host of student sports radio.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: What the hell, he's got four kids.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: We're going to hear all about that.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: But more importantly, we're going to hear about Chris the dad, how he's working hard to become that ultimate quarterback or leader of his household.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: And we must give love to Joel Lagge, former quarterback, dad cast, guest who introduced us at the fine bullhorn engaged conference.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: So without further ado, mr Martin, welcome to the quarterback, dad cast.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: And Joel the human LinkedIn, right Like there isn't somebody that Joel doesn't know and knows how to connect to, so shout out to Joel.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: Did he start LinkedIn?
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: Did he build that himself?
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: I think in his mind he probably did.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: So we're going to start with gratitude and then I'm going to make fun of myself.
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: So tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a loaded question.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: So we just sent our oldest off the college, dropped them off Sunday.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: So we're recording on a Friday before Labor Day, right, Just dropped them off Sunday.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: Did not know what emotional spectrum I would be going through when I dropped them off.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: It was actually easier than I thought.
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: Then the like two days later, he sends a picture of a classroom and I sent my wife a separate text.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: I was like man that made me lose my shit.
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: So gratitude grateful for the ability to just give them opportunities.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: You know, I grew up in a great house, we had great opportunities, but I think, just grateful and really happy that we have the ability to give them opportunities.
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: Love it, Love it.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: I have a senior in high school and I'm going through start of those emotions that you're going through and I, when he goes off, I'm going to be a frickin disaster, Like I mean I'll tear up on a good episode of punky Brewster, I mean commercials or golden girls I mean good commercials will get me.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hallmark, there was like an AT&T commercial that used to play.
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: And every time I came on I had to walk out of the room, depending on who I was with, I was like, oh my God, I'm going to lose it again.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: Here it is, you know, mom reaching across with the baby, or something.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the serendipity right there, I actually supported AT&T for like 18 years of my corporate career.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: So hey, much love.
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: They were my.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: They were my first customer at my former employee which used to be called Sapphire Technologies.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: They were my first customer.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: I used to drive to building D in Middletown, new Jersey.
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: Way before ways you know, you had to print out the map quest 100% and if you, and if you, you know, to date ourselves, it would say like turn right in.3 miles, but it would just be a lake.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: Like I'm sure I don't want to listen to the GPS on that one.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: There was that episode of the office where they where they literally drove into the lake Many times.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: If I had just listened to those map quest directions, you know.
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, so good, okay.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm grateful.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the the ups and downs of fatherhood, but I'm also grateful for the resetting of yourself with clarity, and what I mean by that everybody is.
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we's dads lose our shit and moms we lose our shit too, and we're going to be definitely making this little E on the episodes of giving the language out of the gate.
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: But I don't know about you dads, but the little things sometimes drive me nuts.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: And before Chris and I joked on my bro, I need you to walk enough ledge.
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: So last night, everybody we had actually had kind of a tough week.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: We had this unfortunate incident in our town which this stuff never happens Right, this stuff actually happens on the news.
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: But we had a kid in our area actually get car jacked at gunpoint, scared the shit out of us and stolen car.
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: It was just a crazy story and we're like way too close to home.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: And then it made me think, wow, my son just told me the story about a carjacking, but he he said it like it was like just communicating, which is like, sad to say, that's the state of sometimes of our, what they've our kids have gone through with, you know, sometimes just cool shootings and stuff, it's just like came and imagine, so that kind of grounded me.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, this week he went to the high school football game last night and phone wasn't charged.
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: That should have been.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: So I'm like already a little bit on edge.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like dude, you got to have the front fricking charge and then put his cars supposedly not charging, all these things.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: Well, long story short, we, we, I kind of lose it on a little bit and I hugged him, loved him and reminded him that, hey, the reason I get on yet at times, because I care and because we're trying to set you up for success, post you'll be gone and I can't, I'm not going to be reminding you in college, hey, charge your phone, dude.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but I'm, I'm grateful for the level set.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: You know as much as I got on him, slowed down to say hey, dude, and he's like dad, I love you, I appreciate it, you know.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: So it's like kind of had to have the reset, but man, Do you, do you use life 360?
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's why I know that's the charge.
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: Like you get the little alert and they're like 7% battery and you're like yeah, my man, so I'll tell you.
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: so I I told you I was in San Francisco this week at a really cool conference and I was coming home really late.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: So like I was landing at midnight, wouldn't get home until two or something around there.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: So when I was coming home I turned my life to be 60 off.
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: I put myself in a bubble because I didn't want them all to ping at 2 30 in the morning.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: When I rolled into the driveway right Like arrived home and my daughter yesterday comes to me last night, she's like you're still in the bubble.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like what are you talking about?
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: She's like take yourself out of the bubble.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: I need to know where you are.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: And this is my 11 year old daughter.
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: So me and being like hey, I just like to know where you guys are, and I never thought about that the other way.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: But you know they're looking for us sometimes like hey, where are mom and dad Right, cause we're all running around doing crazy things.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: So you know, I think it goes a little bit both ways there, where you know which I still haven't turned on.
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: I will easily, I promise I will, so I'll get it.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: I'll take myself out of the bubble.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: So good, isn't it funny?
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: I mean me when I was thinking about this.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: Like you know, when we're our parents raised us, they didn't have these things.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine the stress.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: It was like go outside and come back at five.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: I don't remember it being like that, but it couldn't have been another way.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: Right, Like there was no other way, Like we would just go and somehow make it back.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: Times were simpler, I'm not even sure, but I don't remember how it was.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: I think that's part of the thing.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: Like it just it just was, you know we're going to have to deal with something when they turn older.
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think about this all the time they lived through when we wiped down groceries with wipes from the grocery store, when they got delivered during COVID.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: I think about how crazy that is.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: Like that's going to be their hell story, you know me and my parents used to wipe down groceries.
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what?
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: What bananas was that?
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: I still can't believe we lived through that.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: I literally cannot believe we still lived through that.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: It was only two years ago, too, which is the crazy part.
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean our daughter were.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: She's like the feisty.
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: Both my kids are competitive.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: My daughter's like psycho, competitive and like tough and I think that COVID for her she's now like you kind of see her, her coming out of her shell with just emotions and thinking, you know, going through puberty during the right time and got a mask on.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: You can't tell.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: I never asked her.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: I wanted to hate any cute boys at school.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, dad, I have my mask on.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, how sad is that.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: Which may have, helped out somebody, but yeah, somebody too.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, man, let's take me inside the Martin Huddle and I want to, I want to understand.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Tell me about the members of the squad and then maybe tell me about how you and your wife met.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, captain of the squad, my wife, katie, wonderful human, met her.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: I was a my first job out of school.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: I was an assistant water polo coach at Villanova and Kate was an undergrad student there and her roommate was dating the grad assistant of the swimming team.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: I was not a water polo player by trade or by training.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: I just fell backwards into it, frankly, because I lost a.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you the story in a little bit.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: I'll continue with my kids, but I met Kate at Villanova.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: She, she was great.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: I met her because the, the, the grad assistant of the swim team, was dating her roommate who who had went to Villanova as an undergrad and we met.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: I was actually supposed to go on a date with with a different roommate.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: We ended up all going to this bar it's called the brick bar and and and Villanova's campus shout out to the brick bar and I ended up talking to Katie all night instead of the girl I was supposed to go talk to and From there we've been together.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: It's been pretty amazing.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: That was in we argue about this, but it was in the fall of 1999.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: And it was great.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: She was a great human mother of four.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: So we have four kids, our oldest I mentioned earlier freshman in college.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Just dropped him off Sunday.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: We have a 16-year-old who's a junior in high school, alwyn, who's super into running all sorts of running cross country, indoor, outdoor track.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: A 13-year-old, eighth grader, tommy, and a sixth grader, ainsley, a girl.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: So three boys and a girl, Just a really good group of kids.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: I give Katie 99% of the credit for raising him right.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: You know, you know our old jobs like.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: We live a lot on the road.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: So you're here when you're here and you come home, and sometimes you come home like a whirlwind because you've been traveling all week and you come home to the hole.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: You think things are gonna be one way and maybe there are another.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: And then you realize, man, you haven't been here for three days, Like shut up, let them just do what they're doing.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: But they're great.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: We have a little dog, COVID puppy, named Blaze the Bernadoodle.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: The kids got to pick her name.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: I'm a big fish fan the band Fish, not the sport fishing and so they had to name the dog after a fish song.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: And Fish has a song called Blaze On.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: And so they named the dog Blaze which as they get older may realize different connotations of being a fish man and Blaze on.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: But as a eight-year-old, Ainsley didn't really know what that was, so she picked Blaze and we have Blaze the Bernadoodle.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: She's awesome.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: So good I was in my mind the goofiness of the bizarre quarterback which we all quarterbacks have, screw loose.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: My first thought was like how do I want the dogs high right now?
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: And then the self I'm giggling it by myself and you go right there.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Like literally get right into some edible butter lion around.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: It's all legal here on these coasts.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: We're getting closer to you guys out there, Jesus.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I know, okay, so I see.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: So people at home you can't see, we get to see each other.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: But this is an audio only podcast.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I see a Yankee sign.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: I see a Maddo Poicit sign.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: We've talked Cutty Hunk.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: We've talked Woods Hole.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Are we a who's our?
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Are we a Boston guy?
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Are we a Yankee guy?
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: No, I'm a.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Yankee guy you would call a confused sports fan.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I'm a Yankee fan.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: I've been since I was a little kid, and it's not the Yankee Red Sox rivalry that drew me to the Yankees, it was I liked Don Mattingly and my brother liked Wade Box.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: So we I went to the Yankees, he went to the Red Sox.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: My mom and dad are Red Sox fans, half of my family Red Sox fans, half of my family's Yankees fans, and then the ones that, like the Mets, we don't include, right.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, I've just been a Yankee fan my whole, as far back as I can remember, although my parents have pictures of me as a young child in like Red Sox gear and I say you know that's, that was the torture, you know time of my toddler years.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm a Washington Commander's fan, formerly known as the football team, formerly known as the Redskins, formerly known as the Braves Most people don't know it goes back to the Boston Braves but I was a Skins fan.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I don't really know why I grew up a Skins fan.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was just, my cousins were Skins fans and we all became, you know, in the 80s and 90s.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: They were fantastic.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: So William's.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Wasn't hard to be a fan, and then I'm not really tied to anything else.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: I like the Bruins, I like the Celtics, but I don't die and live by those guys.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: But the Yankees are killing me this year.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Tough one, my oh so bad.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: On a more positive note, how about the Seattle Mariners right now?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Nice little run.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, so I've tuned out of baseball because the Yankees are so bad.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: The Yankees are so bad right now the season tickets like guys are giving away the rest of the season if you just buy next year, so you know it's bad in the Bronx, and they're just trying to get people to go.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: We are MLS fans, though, so we're founding members of the NYCFC which is the New York City Football Club.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: They actually plays out of Yankee Stadium and City Field right now and they are building their own dedicated stadium right next to City Field.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be ready in like 2025, but cannot wait for them to have a dedicated stadium.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely One of our family bonding moments.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: We go to the city games.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: We love it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: We love soccer.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Huge, huge team USA fans and I think between my wife and my kids and I, I don't think there's a team USA game Men are women that we don't tune into at some point.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I love it Huge soccer family.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Even though none of our kids really play soccer, except two of them now Like they've all kind of grown out of it, but the eighth grader and sixth grader still do.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: So random small world.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: So my buddy who I grew up with named Brandon Prado, who kind of took part of my job at K-Force.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: He was an MLS guy for 13 years, played for the Chicago Fire, played for DC United, got an MLS championship with Precky.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Remember that guy?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah Well, he had a left foot cut back.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Guy had Precky was good.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Shout out to you, prado.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I think he played for who else Played for the Sounders a little bit Can City Wizards Played for them, and then so one of his friends that became one of my buddies is actually the general manager of the Sounders Now, craig Weibull, who I'm buddies with.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So when they come out to the City New Stadium, you got to convince them to let you tag along on the team point.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't have any personal connections to the MLS.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: We're just fans.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we do now because my current employer, worldwide Technology, our co-founder, owns the new St Louis City team.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: So he's the founder of one of the co-founders of WWT and they just built the St Louis City team brand new arena downtown or stadium downtown rather absolutely phenomenal facility.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So I joked around when I was interviewing with them like I can still like the NYCFC right, like I don't have to change allegiance and believe it or not.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Jim was on the 84 Olympic team, the men's team, and then I think he played a little bit in whatever what the MLS was back then, but I'm not sure about that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he did, but he was definitely on the Olympic team, which is pretty cool.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I always thought at some point deep down inside that I would be able to get that Olympic ring tattoo right.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if all kids go through that, but I played non-revenue sports right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So I never had a dream of going to the NBA or baseball.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I couldn't hit a baseball if it was sitting on a stick in front of me still.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: But, man, when I started swimming I thought, gosh, there could be a point.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And then you realize like four seconds is like 10,000 people in swimming, so you never really sniffed that area of it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would say that is definitely a dream that probably has long since passed.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Although, watching those guys what is the thing called shuffleboard, where they move on the ice, curling, curling, like I don't know, maybe a 50 year old has a shot at curling.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm 48, maybe I find a new sport, you know.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Are you considered the map beyond the worldwide technologies?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: No, there are some studs here.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not even considered like map beyond his friend.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dating ourselves.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Map beyond you with those little Speedos and those big glasses.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: That's why I never was a swimmer.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Speedo got him.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wore a speeder on the house now, just for making my kids jealous.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Here's something for dads If you raise swimmers and our friend Joel will know this because he raised some swimmer girls they're some of the most confident individuals you'll ever meet, because you have to walk around with nothing hidden.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: There's not a lot of shyness in swimmers.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And it definitely resonates.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we kind of geared our kids towards sports that didn't have opinions.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I had a really hard time when the kids were little just watching how youth were tapping around here and we live in a small town and you know you had to know a guy and be friends with the coach who just to get your kid on a field or something.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And I never loved that, like, I didn't like how that was set up.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So we really we put our kids in the swimming because I was a swimmer, my wife was an age group swimmer and then running my wife's a big runner, now several time Boston qualifier, so studly marathon runner in our own right.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And we put them in the swimming and running because you are what the watch says you are.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: There's no opinion Like if you wanna go to the University of Florida and swim, you need to go this fast.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: If you wanna go to the University of Massachusetts and run, you need to run this fast.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So you can't be like, yeah, but you know he's really good potential.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you are what the watch says you are.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: That's kind of like the same thing with golf.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: It's like you are what.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You shot 68, or you shot 110.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: That's all right, give you a nice scan of the world, but you hit four out of bounds to get no balls left in the bag.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You're not finishing the match right Like you're gonna play.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I just snorted.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I would like to go back in time.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I always love asking my guests this I'd love to know, like, what was life like growing up for you and as you're a dad?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Now we're pretty much the same age I'll be 48 in March but talk about the impact your parents had on you now that you're a dad of four.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so both my parents are still around, super fortunate, still married, which is unique in and of itself.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I think my dad was a fireman and an electrician, because firemen don't have just one job, they always have a side hustle, which is great and terrible, because he was never home, at least growing up, because he was always working all the time Absolute hustler.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: My mom was a third grade teacher in town that I grew up in.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: She taught on the other side of town.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I grew up in a town called Nogatuck, connecticut the Valley, as they call it here in the Constitution State, and we grew up pretty, I would say, normal.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: We didn't want for anything, but I don't know if we ever knew what we didn't have.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I grew up with a younger brother in my house with me.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: We have an older half sister that we didn't grow up with and we'd have a whole different type of podcast to unpack that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But I've now known my sister longer than I didn't know her and she was super close.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: She actually lives in Fairfield, connecticut three, four kids, three boys and a girl as well.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: So we're all pretty tight.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: My brother and my sister and I are pretty tight, but when we grew up my parents always gave us what we wanted, right.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: We played tons of sports.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: We grew up in a relatively small town.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how many people, I'm gonna guess 18,000.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It's a pure wild ass.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Guess, though Now it's bigger, but when we were growing up it was pretty small and we had.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: We lived in a neighborhood with my cousins around the corner.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: My grandmother was a couple of hundred yards away from me.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: It was open season, like if you didn't have something in your house, you just went to Graham's and ate, or I went to my aunt's and ate, right Like my cousins were in my house all the time.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I was in their house all the time, and it's just how we grew up.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: We grew up very Italian, my mom's family's Sicilian and my dad's family is French Canadian.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: My dad's family lived a couple of towns away and we saw them all the time too.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I mean when my parents would go out on Fridays or Saturday nights, I would, my brother and I would get dropped off at one of our grandparents' house and we'd spend the night right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I have very fond memories of hanging out with my grandparents on Friday and Saturday nights watching like Falcon crest and whatever other show was on.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And then we play cards.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: We play a game called setback in the Northeast.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: It's a.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: It's a.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: It's a card game that can be played with anyone, from two to eight people.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: You could play singles or you could have teams of two or four, and we grew up playing cards.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It was a big, big piece of our, of our, of our family, so much so that we play Sunday setback with my mom and dad, now with my kids and my wife, and we keep a running score.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So this is how it's been since I was little, and I don't know why I'm sure someone can unpack it but I'm always on the girl's team for some reason.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: So I play with my wife, my mom and my daughter, and then we play against my dad in the boys.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And even when I was little, I would play with my grand's and my brother would play, play with my grandpas, and it's, it's just been a part of our family.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: We keep running score, you know, like the yearly tab, like who wins more, who loses more, because you know we're, like you, over competitive in our house and and you could potentially win a setback game in four hands if everything goes perfect.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: You could win in three if it really goes perfect.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So we really try to hit that mark as much as we can.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So, as the kids are getting older, they're getting better at the game they played for longer.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: They figure out nuances that we don't tell them.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: They have to figure it out on their own.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: But man it's, it's been great.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: My, my parents gave me so much.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: You know respect Above everything, be nice to people and and that's what we try to tell our kids we did a little thing, my daughter does a little thing on the first day of school Try to find the new person and and make friends with them, bring them into your world.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Because you could, you can change someone's you know school year by just saying hello on the first day.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: So my daughter sends me a text on the first day.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: She's like this is what she writes, something out, paraphrase, but it was like found her, got her snap, she's sitting at our table and we're having lunch tomorrow too.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Now the happiest text you could possibly get from your 11 year old daughter.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: You know that's when you know mama, dad, are doing something right.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: You know Like as all the is.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: You know tongue-in-cheek we talked about this in the first world problems of a phone charger, which still is a big deal.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: But in the big scheme of things, when you can create good humans who are doing the right thing, or you know what are sports or grades, I mean, in the big scheme of things, if they're nice, you're gonna be okay in life.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: It's nice.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Try to be nice.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and not every person has not.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Our kids don't have the same personality like that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You know I probably have three extroverts in one introvert.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: My wife is introverted, I'm currently the extroverted one, and you know that's okay.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: You don't need to be one way or the other to be nice.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: So you know, just smile, say thank you, say please.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: You know little things that my parents certainly did with with my brother and I that we try to pass on, you know, to our kids.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And you know my wife grew up in a family of four to with four, you know, four total they were the opposite, three girls and a boy, and they grew up in Lexington, kentucky, and Even though her, her mom and dad were both from Long Island, so they're, they're like kind of southern but not super southern.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: The my wife, funny enough was was her dad was as a surgeon, was born in Connecticut and then, you know, grew up in Lexington, kentucky, and her brother was the only one kind of born and raised there his whole life and he's still in Lexington.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: He's actually a doctor.
• 29:20
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• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Now let's get back to today's episode another great, another great dad to two little kids, boy and a girl.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we are very family oriented.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I mentioned that you know grew up in a Sicilian house.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: We do the Sicilian Christmas Eve with the seven fishes every year.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Get it at my grams.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Well, we did it at my, my great aunts at one point, and then it moved to my grams house.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: My Graham's still alive, believe it or not.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: 98, wow In in town we go see her all the time.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: She just just can't be on her own anymore.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: But I took over Christmas Eve as, like a, you know write a passage About ten years ago and we've hosted every year.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: But the COVID year we hosted and we do the seven fishes right like the, the fried schmelt, and it's so much it's.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: It's a crazy thing.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: It gets to the point where I ask people to help cook because my house would stink for like four weeks if I did all the cooking in the house.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: You know there isn't, there isn't a strong enough room cleaner or baking soda available to get that smell out.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: So the family all tops it up.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: But we have a great time.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: It's open season.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So we started like five o'clock on Christmas Eve and it's a rotating in and out.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: We have friends.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Stop by, you know different religious friends that you know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: We may have Jewish friends that go out to dinner.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: They're not celebrating Christmas Eve but, man, at eight o'clock, nine o'clock they're at my house.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: You know, on Christmas Eve it's, it's one of my favorite nights of the year, for sure.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: But got all that for my parents right like open the door if you can and let people in.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Wow, 98 Grandma.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: How fantastic, how fantastic that yeah my, my grandfather, was a Marine.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Great, great story.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Very typical of, like Tom Broca's greatest generation.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Right I tried to enlist at the Marines at 15.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: They didn't let him.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: At 16, they didn't let him.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: And at 17, even though they weren't supposed to, because their birth certificates are questionable.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Back then, they let him in.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Did two tours in the South Pacific Very rarely talked about it, but when he did it was.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: It was so powerful.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Wow, it is is very you know, very, very cool.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: He passed away a couple years ago and at the time he was, there weren't more than a hundred or so living World War two Marines left.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Wow which was, which was very neat and the Marine Corps actually came to his, to his funeral services.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Because of that like they, I guess you know, obviously someone in Pentagon, I don't even know where, tracks it, but it was very cool he did the full military send off, like at his funeral, you know, night 85 years after, like pretty amazing, you know.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: but I got a.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Marine.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I was a Marine, you know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Got chills, dude, when you said that yeah, it was my pops.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: We lost my dad actually in season three, december 29, 2021.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: So like this is season four, all season three was dedicated to him.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: He died like kind of during right the code stuff, so it's like we really and he had a rap sheet of health.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: She now gets like really 15 years before that and out of sister living facility.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: So it was a very challenging journey but one ended ended peacefully.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So we really never were able to do a service for him which was kind of a little bit yeah and so like we did like a I mean a small one, but our clothes with ashes and I still we're gonna do the rest of his ashes up those place called Mount Rainier, which big tall mountains in Washington.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, man, my wife's grandparents.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: They met like mid 90s but 98 is.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: That's pretty fricking sweet.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty crazy, we actually we you know we stopped.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: We stopped over there on Sunday morning before we took our Saturday, before we took our my son to school, so like, hey, let's go see Graham.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: You know, dude, she was dead.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I mean when I say dead asleep, sawing logs, snoring, we could not wake her up to like save, save, like we could not get her up.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: We tried for so long I was like, all right, like you're going to see Graham, still had this is going to be it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: But you know she's still there when she's, when she's awake and alert.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It's still pretty amazing the things she remembers.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But at 98, she confuses times and like you know who's around and who's not around.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: And you know she might call one of my kids, like she calls my daughter Ainsley sometimes, and Marie, which was my aunt who passed away because she they kind of look similar, but but still man, when she's around and on it still mind is sharp as a tap.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: But you know those, those mute moments are coming.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: You know a little bit more few and far between at this point.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: But yeah, dementia is dementia.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she's going down that path, but it's weird.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: It's tough at 98.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: You got all that stuff.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, super thankful she's still around.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: We had some great times and, like I said, both my parents they live like four miles away they're super involved in everything that we do, like pick up, drop off, bring the sports right, like especially before we had a driver in the house.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Sometimes we'd have to be in four different places at the same time and man.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Graham and grandpa help a lot.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Love it so good, so good, I mean, and think about how much fun we're having as parents now.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Think about how much fun we're going to have as grandparents.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think I spoiled my daughter.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Wait till you see what grandkids look like Cool.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they, your parents, which I think is awesome still married, still alive.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: That's my mom's 70.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: She'll be what is she?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: She's 73.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: So we're like the same.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: So my parents were born in 49 and 50.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yep, you know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: So same timeline, for sure.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom's.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: My dad was nine years older than my mom, so I used to joke my boy, what are you doing?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Down come the junior highs and you're in high school.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: It's kind of grow, it's kind of.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Robin, the cradle is like that's a whole nother.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another podcast.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: We'll start that one next week.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Robin the cradle, right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, so respect.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Be nice, tell me what other values were most important growing up that you've passed on your kids.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I think those are, those are the two big things.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Right, like I truly like joke and just say smile.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Right, because not because buddy the elf said smiling is my favorite, but it is a.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I think spending time with your family is, if that's a value, I don't know how to put it as a value, but it's one that's huge for us.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Right, like just every moment you could spend together.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: If I spend, because you don't know what the what the future could be.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: We've had some unfortunate you know that's even that's too easy of a word to say it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: We've lost some young kids around us, some terrible things.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: You know cancer took one of my my now seen, my now freshman in high school's friend at the age of you know, 13.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And then my now 13 year old lost a friend in a terrible skiing accident when he was eight, and they all kind of happened right around the same time and we're still very close with both families and but you know it makes you appreciate that the shortness sometimes of what life can be, so just really I think that helped shape our family, good, bad or indifferent.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I think you know, in tragedy sometimes you could find strength and you know they certainly have.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: But you know, the two families that that went through that are simply amazing, amazing families.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think I could imagine and obviously because we're so close to some of them, you think about it but gosh, losing a kid was so hard.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: We're real time in the news right now.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: There was a young man down in South Carolina that just got that got shot because he went into the wrong house.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that on the national news this week as my nephew's roommate at South Carolina.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: So so there they're actually coming up up to Connecticut today to go to this poor kid services.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And just makes you think like just just blinking and you know you've lost someone.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: So I think the values that we're trying to instill are really just like appreciate the now and spend time with each other, you know whether it's go play a game of horse in the driveway, go play golf with your siblings, you know, go on a dog walk, on a hike to the falls, whatever it is.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Just spend time with each other and really appreciate it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I think we do a good job of instilling that with the kids today.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: But it is a just you know, you pause and blank and you just say, say prayers for the tragedy that happens because there's nothing you can do.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Like you, just, you never know how it's going to end.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Try to just appreciate the hair and now and spend time.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: We do a thing.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: This is, I'll say, this is our, this is our family thing.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know where it started or how it started, but it's been going on for as long as I could remember.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: But when we have dinner together, which they're in COVID, became every day.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Sometimes now it's once a week or twice a week, if that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: But we do a favorite part of the day with all of our kids and it's just something they have to be thankful for, something that they have to say they're thankful for.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: And then we all do it when we always go youngest to oldest.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: So I always end up going last because I'm the old guy and now that Collins out of the house this week, my wife sent us we have a group chat, just like probably every other family.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: She's like okay, like favorite part of the day is going to start being on group and it's, you know, before you go to bed you got to tell us what you're thankful for and the group chats actually been pretty good about it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You know, like up to now.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Now it's only been like four days, so we'll see how it keeps going, but you know, just to try to keep that cohesiveness between the unit, it's an important thing, right.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Like you can, you can say and bitch about something that went wrong, you could all have a bad day, but the ability to sit down and say, okay, what is your favorite part of today?
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Like just gives you a moment of that little bit of attitude.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you know totally, man, as you're saying, that you made me think of one of the amazing dads I learned along the way is from guy Matt Miller, and one of the things I also went from another game, sean Thompson.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: He's a really powerful speaker.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: He did this thing about the word I will, the phrase I will, which is big, two powerful words.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I use a lot in the work I do outside of this podcast.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: But this great family exercise can similar to what favorite part day you go around the table and everyone has to say two things that you're, you appreciate about a member of the family, or you could do one thing and then you say one thing that you appreciate about yourself.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: So you're very, yeah, but it helps kind of work on like self confidence of like, because sometimes we, as we don't slow down and think like hey, I'm, I'm, I'm grateful that I am caring or I'm grateful that I'm, at times, funny or whatever it may be, and sometimes having to say something out loud about yourself kind of works on.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: And but it was, it was a fun exercise we did during.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: We did, actually did that during COVID.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what COVID man like.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: For all the negatives that came out of COVID and there certainly were a ton the positive for me and it's overwhelmingly wonderful, like if I could go back and change I don't know if I would like to be frank like it brought our family so much closer than we ever could have been, because you know, we talked about going in so many different directions on a daily basis.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: My 11 now 11 year old and now 18 year old, were what eight and 15 at that point they never would have interacted just because of different ends of like out of the house at six, you know, back at 10 versus the other ones.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: And we, they got to know each other.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: We sat down every day, we had lunch every day, we had dinner every day.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: And that man, what a difference it is.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: And they are so close now as a family and kids and brothers and sisters.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't think it would have been that way If it wasn't for COVID.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: So you know, for as many terrible things as COVID happened, man, that was a great part of it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: My wife and I talked about the same.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it brought us closer.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: It's like the family dinners, the stress of getting to this sport, that sport.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Then when this doing that, like we couldn't do anything, and so you know, I think about like it's shaped.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: My son and his sport.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: He was a hoop kid, now he's a almost a one.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: To handicap.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: He went from a 14 down to a three during COVID.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I would be getting quite a lot of shots from your son on the golf course and happily take them too, by the way.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I'm a one eight right now too.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness I went after you, I'll take all 10.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I actually and it pisses my son off, he's like you didn't even practice as hard as I don't.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I said it's called dad strength dude, sorry, I don't, I don't.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: My kids started playing golf during COVID.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: None of them had right up until that point and you can just see like athleticism in kids.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: You know like because my 13 year old and my 16 year old can both, when they hit it, murder the ball past me.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Like because it's just pure length and strength.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Now they only hit one fairway around, but when they do, man, it's deep Right, so like it gives us an opportunity to go out.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: We, we, we golf at this like really small nine hole course near, near our house and they, they just let us go out as a family so you could go out with four people, five people, the dog could come.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: What?
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: After November?
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: The dog could come so November 1st, april 1st, even in northeast so not a lot of golf days in there, but there are some.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: The dog can just come, so like we'll go and play golf with the dog, it's just it's.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: It's a ton of fun.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: That is all the dogs going to go after by the way because the dog will pick up the golf ball.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: So, regarding those values you talked about being respectful, being nice, smiling is there a story or two that might, or one that comes to mind as a kid, where you really learn the power of that?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I just had my 30th high school reunion, which is obviously dating us.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: We already talked about our age and one of my friends from high school, and this is how you compartmentalize things as a as when you're kids.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: She came up to me and I've seen her around since high school.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Like we're friends with her husband.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: You know, like when we see each other it's great too.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: But we're not.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: We don't live in the same town so we don't see each other a lot.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: But sometimes sporting events their kids actually swam.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm still pretty active in the swim community as a volunteer coach and so I'm on deck a lot.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: She came up to me she's like I have to tell you something.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: And I was like what?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: And she started to like tearing up, telling me a story.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: She's like my first day of school in in Nagatuck was high school and she said you don't remember this at all.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: But you came up to me and were like hey, are you lost?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Can I help you with something?
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Like can I show you where something is?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: And she's like and admit I never thought I've never forgotten about that with you.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because we do, I just mentioned we do a very similar thing with our kids, like we asked them to do that and what you know, we haven't asked them in a while.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: They just do it now.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: But I think that that's something that until just a couple you know, weeks ago, when we had the reunion, I didn't even know about it, but I think that was just instilled in us right, like my mom was a teacher, like just being nice to people, like try to try not to belittle people, and some of the things I think back to are like on the negative side, when I clearly remember maybe we weren't nice.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: And maybe we did something that was inherently so mean and probably affected someone in a different way like the other way.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Like I remember a situation where you know someone, someone was doing something in like music class and me and one of my friends like were probably, you know, sixth grade, seventh grade making fun of her.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: And I still think about like that day is like what in God's name was wrong with us?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Like why would we have made fun of that?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Or like that girl to make her cry in class?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: And I still know her, I still see her, I still talk to her, like I think they could really think about it more now, 30 years later, 35 years later than she probably does but like I wish there was things like you could go back.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: So I try to tell my kids, like hey, like just remember, like it's now, but it could stay with you forever, like so some of the regrets sometimes you think about and you're like man, what was I thinking?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: So, if you can get your kids to a point where they could think ahead if any dads have figured that out, you know, I think we're gonna share contact information later but like, let me know, because that's my biggest thing is like I don't want them to have those moments of looking back, of like don't make someone feel like that, but I think largely I.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: You know we were the opposite of that.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Right, like we were the, I tried to be nice to everybody, you know.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Well, the good news is chat, gpt or AI will never replicate being nice.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: They can't, because that's never gonna go old, never gonna go out of style.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You know just, you're a good human.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: It's funny like when I random corny self-plug here, but when I was, when I decided to write a book the very first, when my son was like seven, eight or nine, he was like hey, dad, what are you for your job?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And I couldn't say I provided staff augmentation services to ask me about.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: He's like what the hell is that?
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So I told him I made friends for a living.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: My buddies gave me a hard time.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Like J Cox, you can't frickin' tell your kid he makes friends for like, he's gonna be asking for 20s in the recess field.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like no, he's not dumbass, I go to me.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: It's all about being if, like you, you're nice and a friend asks for help, you help them.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: But if the friend asks for something you can't do you find a different friend to help them, right, it's kind of like you know how you went, P Right, and so anyway.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: so we, we, we joked about that for a long time, but Hi, I'm Marcie Stout, ceo and co-founder of Rebel Coach, a consulting and coaching company dedicated to cultivating leadership, building cohesive teams and fostering wellbeing in the workplace.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: At Rebel Coach, collaboration is one of our core principles, which is why I'm excited that KC J Cox and I are partnering together to host a monthly mastermind called the Intentional Sales Leader Mastermind, where leaders can share ideas, exchange insights and gain valuable knowledge from industry experts.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: It's our promise to you that joining our mastermind will provide practical insights on how to use curiosity and humility to build relationships while exceeding revenue expectations.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: We'll also teach techniques so you can stay committed to priorities like family health and, quite frankly, things that bring daily joy.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: You can learn more about me and my work at rebelcoachcom and, if you want to work with us and other sales leaders who are committed to results both personally and professionally, visit kcjcoxcom for more information on the Intentional Sales Leader Mastermind.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Now let's get back to the podcast.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, as we get ready to wrap up here, one of the questions I like asking dads is an area of your dad game that might relate to home we kind of talked about the beginning a little bit but maybe an area of your dad game where you know it's not always quite where you want it to be, but your beliefs you're present enough to focus on getting better in mind's patience, but I constantly have to work hard on.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: But tell me what comes to mind for you.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: God, that's a good question, and you didn't prep for these questions, so I Told you curiosity is gonna drive it Curiosity.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll say I love your believed things.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I'm also a big Ted Lasso fan, but KC has a belief poster behind his head.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure other dads have mentioned it on the Cuban cast, but it is a.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I think my biggest thing that I try to work on is I'm like the very typical dad that's like hey, why doesn't anyone clean up?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Like, how come no one's helping us put the dishes away?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: How come no one's taking the garbage out?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: And then, when they do it, I'm like why'd you do it like that?
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Right Like, you should have done it like this, instead of just being like, hey, thanks for taking the garbage out, I appreciate it, you know Right.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Or thanks for doing the dishes, I appreciate it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Not like, why did you stack the dishes in the cabinet like that?
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: So, whatever that is, I need to work on that.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I think you know.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: I need to work on thanking them when they do things versus just railing when they don't.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Right Like, because they do do things right.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just don't see it right.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: So I think that's a big thing.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I'll continue to try to get better with it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Say, it's a funny moment in our house right Like, I'll make the bed.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: If I'm the last one out of the bed in the morning and my wife will come and remake the bed and I'm like, why did I even remake it?
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: She's like no, it's okay, keep making it.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I just, you know, like it my way.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good one, man.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's again.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like every time I talk to dads and there's, you're gonna be, I don't know, probably episode 220 or 215 or whatever, which is hard to believe.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Ty Nunez, my receiver in college and great friend buddy, thanks for helping us get this thing off the ground four years ago.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, if you were to summarize our episode, the dads can take kind of actionable tasks to from everything they've learned about from you or me or your grandparents or your parents.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe two or three things they can take out of this episode to be working on to become that ultimate quarterback or better leader of their home.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Tell me what comes to mind, chris.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the big thing for me is like just give your kids opportunities to succeed and help bring them to wherever they need to go and it's gonna be different for each kid.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: And you know I'm a big believer in like you sign up for something, like I'm gonna get you there but I'm not gonna make you go.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: And you know, just giving yourself the ability, you know, to step back and say, like don't live vicariously through your kids, like let them do their own thing, is a big thing for us.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: We don't live vicariously, we try to let them pave their own pathway and just give them the vehicle to get there if they can.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: And then the second thing is, you know, just have them be nice.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: The more nice humans we can raise and bring into the world, I mean, man, it's just a better place when people smile and are nice.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: It truly makes a big difference in someone's life if they live on the nice side and the happy side.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Not everything, as it seems, not everything's perfect all the time, but, man, just try to get them on the pathway of nice and I think that's the biggest thing for us try to raise nice kids.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Dude, when you said that, like I literally felt this is like goof and I was like I felt like the positive chills throughout my body.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I was like just being nice, it made me feel good about myself or just happy about where I am.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: You're a nice guy Like we.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: First time we met I think both of us realized like okay, like we could talk to each other.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Do we just become best friends?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Dude, just do the hug, but you know it's.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: But I also think it's why we chose the professions we chose.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Right, like the more professions, right Like I tell my people, my kids, when we were growing up, like you know, I help people find jobs, right, like that's basically what we do.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: We help people find jobs and that's a, it's a pretty honorable profession.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I think you know, like we're helping someone find a job, that's pretty cool.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: It's really cool.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell us about worldwide technology.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Tell us about your role.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I when I first cause I actually didn't know about them when you were telling, but when I heard about it kind of the history of the company and some of your, your founding members I was like why that is awesome.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, super cool company Worldwide technology is based in St Louis Missouri.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: We are a private company.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Our two founders, dave Storg, co-founders in Jim Cavanaugh, great human beings We've been on the great place to work with for over a dozen years now, which is an incredible sense of pride within the organization.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I've only been here since January of 22.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: So you know, going on about a year and a half plus, and you know what I can say is, like you hear the term, I'm a, I'm a East coaster, like Midwest values and Southern values.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Man, they have it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: They just treat people incredibly well and with respect and it's just, it's a real nice place to work.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: It truly is a great place to work.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: What we do for a work technology service provider which somewhere just or just under $20 billion globally from a revenue perspective, so pretty large private company, yeah, huge.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: And at their core they started as a value added reseller of OEM and then, you know, like a lot of those types of organizations, started hedging into services and I'm responsible today for the external workforce for WWT.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: So when we have to augment our staff to do projects to fulfill needs within our customer base or a deployment of something we've, you know we've sold on the hardware software side or the licensing side.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: My team's responsible for finding and then delivering that talent to the organization or to the customers that we serve.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: So it's been really cool.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: You know we've been in human capital our whole career is pretty much, even dating back as a coach.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I'd say that's pretty human capital-y and giving the ability to still stay within the space that I know and love and work for an organization that is as held to values.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: That WWT is pretty neat.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: They have core values that they call the path and it's like trust, humility, embrace change.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: You know have a passion and strong work ethic.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: You know have an attitude so right in their core value is like be positive and open-minded be a team player and then you know, have honesty and integrity at the end of it and it is everyone believes it Like it's not a tagline, like people truly treat people with respect and it's like nothing else I've ever seen.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I joked around with my boss after like six or seven months you know you do a check-in and I was like man I haven't met.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I haven't met an A-hole yet Like I haven't met someone that I didn't want to talk to again, which is pretty amazing when you have to consider a company like 10,000 people, right Like so, getting hired by a company that truly values that was pretty incredible.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I was lucky to be connected with them and it's just been a good ride so far and hope to continue it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I hope I don't have another job.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: It's a great place.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: So, after spending two plus decades at Ronstad, at the Ronstad companies, which was another great company I've cherished my time there I'm lucky to find a new place after 20 years.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: It was scary to leave and thankful I did, but scary to leave.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Love it, man.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: What I love most about that is I worked at K-Force for 20 years and then now I've met a lot of fantastic people.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize how many freaking really cool, great people are in this industry.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Now that I'm out of the I mean I'm in this tongue-in-cheek out of the K-Force jail I got released now I'm like holy shit, there's a lot of cool stuff out there.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things I always challenge people I work with now is like, don't let your value just be words on a wall.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Like back it up and to hear you.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Obviously you did.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: You guys do so.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Shout out to World Wide Technologies.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: We'll make sure that you guys are tagged in the show notes so people can learn more about you or them.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: But now it's time to go into what I call the lightning round, where I go completely random on you.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: We're gonna ask quick questions.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Your job is to answer them as quick as you can.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: My job is to be as goofier in hell and try to get a gigaladia.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Boom, let's do it.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, who is George Stephanopoulos?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: No, no, not that one Dang it no you're all right.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, true or false, you once beat Jotha.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I's been in a swimming race.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: That's not false.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, true or false?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Doug Williams is your favorite quarterback of all time.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Ooh, false.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Second favorite quarterback.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Who is your favorite quarterback?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Mark Rippen.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Mark Rippen, from what state?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Seattle, nice, washington.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Went to Washington State he's a Cougar, yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Seattle, Washington.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Rippen, there we go, True or false.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I once played three on three basketball against Art Monk on a cruise.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: If that's true, I'm gonna have a whole nother conversation about that.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: True, all right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was talking trash to him about Steve Larson too.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, of course right.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he loved me.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I have his Hall of Fame retired jersey.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: True or false.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Daryl Green was also on that court.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Number 28, and if you asked me, who my favorite football player ever was?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: it would be Mr.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Daryl Green.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: So this was back when the Redskins there was a Redskins cruise on our honeymoon.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: What, yeah, it was unbelievable.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: It was awesome.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's like.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: That gave me chills.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, random.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell me the last book you read.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: The last book I read is actually right here and I just got it.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: It's called Bar Tips.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Everything I needed to know in sales I learned behind the bar by a buddy of mine named Neil Rogers.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: So shout out to Neil if you wanna tag him in the show notes.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: He'll love it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Neil Rogers.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Neil was our vendor for all of our swag at Ronstadt for 20 plus years.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Him and his wife own a great company up in New England and Neil sent me this signed book and he's like hey, man, I want you to read it, let me know your thoughts.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: And it's absolutely fantastic.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: And if I wrote a book, this might have been my title, because it started off as a bartender and I think everything you learn from sales you do learn from behind the bar Be able to talk to anybody, be welcome, smile and be nice.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Right, that's what we just talked about.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: So funny.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: You said that I just finished it.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I owe Neil a text to give him my feedback.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Neil great Rogers.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: R-o-g-e-r-s.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Neil Rogers R-O-G-E-R.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: All right, Neil, congrats, buddy.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: You will be tagged in the show notes.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're gonna be a future, isn't it, dad?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, hey, Neil's gonna be a future guest buddy.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell me the last.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Tell me what song in your phone has played that?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: If your friends at World Wide Tech knew you listened to your, like what you listened to, that seriously.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is a good one.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: It's probably some version of like 90s gangster rap Nice.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Impressive.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know an EZE song or an NWA song.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Iced tea is probably my favorite rapper from back then, which not a lot of people give enough credit to because he now he's on like whatever TV show.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: But man, original gangster New Jack City.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I just listened to it last night.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: So let's go New Jack City.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I love it If you were to go on vacation right now, alone, you and your wife.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Where are you going?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Hawaii.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, what island?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never been.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: You've never.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Oh see, that's so funny.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so being so close to Hawaii, seattle we've been tons of times I love it out there?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, never.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: It's bucket list Prayers for people that are going through everything they're going through there.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: But, man, it's on my bucket list.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: I'd really like to go see Hawaii.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful If it's available.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: I'd really like to see the Northern Lights somewhere.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Mm we just yeah.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I would love to see it too.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I just went to Alaska for the first time, shot to our sponsor, Latitude Sika.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: That was fantastic.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: That would be a great place to see the Northern Lights.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, if I was to come to your house for dinner tonight, tell me what we're having.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: We are having something from the Smoker, so pulled pork, brisket.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Love, love.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: You know, love my Traeger.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a Traeger head.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: So if you're coming, we'd have something on the Smoker.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, salmon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I could probably salmon, because that's all I could throw together in like three hours.
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  Speaker 1: So it sounds pretty good, though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title.
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  Speaker 2: Smile.
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  Speaker 1: Be Nice.
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  Speaker 1: I freaking love that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now I think I know where you might go with this one, but I'm gonna ask anyways.
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  Speaker 1: So this book, smilebenice, is crushing it.
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  Speaker 1: It's sorry, neil bar tips, that one's getting crushed.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: My book's getting crushed because Smile and Be Nice is just killing everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Now, holly, what has found out about this, chris?
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  Speaker 1: And they wanna make a movie out of it.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: You are the casting director.
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  Speaker 1: I need to know who's gonna star you in this critically acclaimed and fantastic new movie that's all over Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: I have a really simple answer because, even though I do not see it, I get asked if I'm related to Ryan Reynolds quite a lot the eyes and maybe the voice a little bit, even though I have a lot of connection right now.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Ryan Reynolds.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: It would play me Well, rexum, I mean, it's a fantastic show, I almost.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: If I could cue the music if I had a producer which I don't I'm the producer like Debbie Gibson, lost in your Eyes when I Said Eyes.
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  Speaker 1: How good would that be right there?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in your Eyes.
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  Speaker 2: I can't sing, man.
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  Speaker 2: No, but you'll drop listenership if I start singing.
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  Speaker 2: I may have the same name as Coldplay, but man, I can't sing.
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  Speaker 1: See, I unfortunately can sometimes carry tune.
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  Speaker 1: I actually once karaokeed eight consecutive songs in a row in a Nashville bar and they're like Jay-cox, seriously give someone else the mic.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: That's an embarrassing story, I've only karaokeed probably two or three times in my life, and I will only do rap songs because I'm not singing.
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  Speaker 1: Impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, if you're a rap song of all time.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Though can I answer that real quick?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Go for it I get my thumbnail question and I should have answered this actually as the question.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: This should have been my answer because it's been thinking, I've been thinking about it, but Summer Time by Will Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so good.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably like one of my most played songs ever.
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  Speaker 1: That's a fantastic yeah.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: And then they car this been all day waxing, yeah.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah so good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, tell me two words that describe your wife.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing and mom.
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  Speaker 1: Boom, lightning rounds over.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: We got deep, we got a little giggly.
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  Speaker 1: We'll call it a tie because I think we both we both giggled a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: This has been so fun.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for spending some time with us this morning.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted to give a shout out to the Latitude Sika Salmon team.
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  Speaker 1: If anybody has ever not been to Alaska or want to go to Alaska, please go to Sika Alaska and check out Latitude Sika latitude57.com.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: I went.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: We had six guys that went and it was freaking trip of lifetime.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: They bought this island and the experience.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: You can go up there, from Pot Springs to Jet Skiing, to freaking cold plunge.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: We did that and the, which was crazy.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I did not mean to do that but it froze my balls off.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Definitely put an E on this song now and it was just fun.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: So, like, check them out If you want to go up there and they'll take care of you.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like they did us.
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  Speaker 1: We'll make sure you guys are.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: You're Chris, you're tagging the show notes.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: But again, joel, thanks for making the introduction to us at the Bullhorn Engage Conference and I really appreciate you spending time with me this morning.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, casey, it's been a pleasure.