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Red Sox telling end-of-season presser, Raleigh & Naylor undergo surgery, Bregman says Cubs FAILED · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: That's what she said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said, presented by Lorraine Coe. Red Sox
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  Speaker 2: had their post-mortem press conference, if you will, and it
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  Speaker 2: was the longest stinking press conference in the history of
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  Speaker 2: press conferences. Apparently, they had a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: It was Sam Kennedy. It was Craig Breslow. It was
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  Speaker 2: Chad Tracy. Chad Tracy on the wild around pitching changes.
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  Speaker 2: Not one time since I've been here has anybody scripted
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  Speaker 2: a game. Those decisions are mine. That specific one, my decision,
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  Speaker 2: that obviously didn't go great. That falls on me, talking
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  Speaker 2: about obviously removing guys early as far as the starters
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  Speaker 2: were concerned, Peyton Tolley, Sonny Gray. But he took the
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  Speaker 2: onus of it. Do you believe him that that was not.
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  Speaker 3: Scripted, EK?
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  Speaker 1: Not for a second.
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  Speaker 3: Not for a second. Me either. Not for a second.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, you have to have a plan. You
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  Speaker 3: have to have a plan going into it. So is
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  Speaker 3: he saying we didn't even have a plan, like this
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  Speaker 3: is all just on me?
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  Speaker 4: Stop.
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  Speaker 1: Stop.
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  Speaker 3: I heard this team had a meeting in 2018 after
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  Speaker 3: they won the World Series. Their pitching staff, or maybe
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  Speaker 3: their bullpen, I'm not 100% sure, led baseball in ERA,
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  Speaker 3: and the analytical department told the pitching group, You guys
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  Speaker 3: could have had a half a run lower ERA if
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  Speaker 3: you had listened to our numbers. They are 100% having
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  Speaker 3: these conversations. Stop with the, it's not scripted. Did you
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  Speaker 3: make the wrong decision taking them out? Or were you
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  Speaker 3: afraid of your job? I don't think he was afraid
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  Speaker 3: of his job. I think he took the numbers and
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  Speaker 3: he said, this is our shot. We're going to go
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  Speaker 3: to Eric Miller who struggled in September, but I didn't
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  Speaker 3: see that. And We're throwing him against a left-handed hitter
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  Speaker 3: who hits lefties really well, and he's going to throw
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  Speaker 3: a lot of sliders. Or not hits lefties really well,
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  Speaker 3: hits sliders very well. And Cody Bellinger, it didn't work out.
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  Speaker 3: I would have kept Sonny Graham.
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  Speaker 5: It didn't work out against Ben Rice either because it
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  Speaker 5: happened two days in a row.
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  Speaker 3: So why can't– why are we earlier– who was on?
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  Speaker 3: Brendan Cuddy was on. He's talking about, wow, that would
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  Speaker 3: look like a panic move. What the heck? Aaron Boone
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  Speaker 3: was just out on the podium saying, we got to
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  Speaker 3: play for our lives. We got to play for our season.
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  Speaker 3: It's over. Sorry, it's panic. It doesn't mean you're changing
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  Speaker 3: your entire script. It just means I'm looking at what
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  Speaker 3: Sonny Gray's doing, and I'm like, probably not taking him
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  Speaker 3: out yet.
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because he's really good the second time through. Is Eric Miller,
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  Speaker 3: for the majority of the season, was he really, really good?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely he was. And you want to neutralize those lefties.
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  Speaker 3: But if it doesn't work one night, it's okay to
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  Speaker 3: look at it and go, I'm not going to go
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  Speaker 3: back to it. Look what Walt Weiss did. And I
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  Speaker 3: know we're talking about this because one team it didn't
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  Speaker 3: work out and the other team it did. Didier Fuentes never,
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  Speaker 3: ever comes back out for the ninth inning in a
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  Speaker 3: team that has more of their game scripted. He was
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  Speaker 3: watching what the hitters were saying and the hitters were saying,
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  Speaker 3: please take him out of the game. So he kept
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  Speaker 3: him in the game.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is, though, it's the veterans that are upset
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  Speaker 2: with the decisions. Apparently, Craig Breslow had a discussion with
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  Speaker 2: Wilson Contreras for two hours after he had the computer comment,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that, yeah, there's too much analytics, yada, yada, yada.
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  Speaker 2: Sonny Gray said, you know what, I would have liked
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  Speaker 2: to have been trusted in that moment, even though it
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  Speaker 2: was about to be the third time through the order.
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  Speaker 2: You can understand why the veteran players, both of those guys,
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  Speaker 2: which may not be back next year if they elect
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  Speaker 2: not to come back, you know, Sonny Gray may retire
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  Speaker 2: and Wilson Contreras may go someplace else. too much analytics,
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  Speaker 2: not enough analytics. There's always, there's always enough.
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  Speaker 1: There's no right answer to that question. You can't answer
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  Speaker 1: that question. There's nobody knows Alana.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, for Chad Tracy to say it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't scripted, I agree with what he said, because it was,
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  Speaker 5: they talked about this. He took the hit, the pitchers
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  Speaker 5: out at the exact same hitter, both times and brought
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  Speaker 5: in the exact same guy at the exact same hitter. So,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, number of hitters, sorry, not the same hitter.
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  Speaker 5: I know, but the exact number hitter, right? So you
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  Speaker 5: can't tell me they didn't discuss this. He just decided, man,
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  Speaker 5: 20th hitter game one just happens to be the 20th
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  Speaker 5: hitter in game two. We're bringing in somebody else. It's
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  Speaker 5: not that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Do they say you have to do A, B, C? No,
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  Speaker 5: but they say, hey, we'd really like it if you
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  Speaker 5: did A, B, and C. And he looks at his card.
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  Speaker 5: They all have a little card like this. This isn't
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  Speaker 5: one of them, but they have a little white card.
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  Speaker 1: Like this, and they go. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. It says
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  Speaker 1: to do this. And then you talk to your pitching coach,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Bailey and Andrew Bailey says, yeah, yeah. Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: look at the card.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it says. Okay. Well, and what did Joe
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  Speaker 1: Maddon say yesterday? They'd rather fail.
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  Speaker 5: With the analytics because they can fall back on the
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  Speaker 5: analytics and said, the analytics said to do this.
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  Speaker 1: It's not my fault. The analytics said to do it.
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  Speaker 1: It was the right move.
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  Speaker 2: Boston's pitching was not really the issue all season long.
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  Speaker 2: You guys, it was lack of offense. It was obviously, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Injuries to key players. Roman Anthony, for whatever reason, can't
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  Speaker 2: stay healthy to save his life. What do they do
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  Speaker 2: moving forward in terms of this offseason? But I feel
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  Speaker 2: sometimes with this particular ownership group and where they are
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  Speaker 2: right now, it's like, let's just do enough. Let's do
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  Speaker 2: enough to make the fans a little bit happy. Get
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  Speaker 2: into the postseason. Not necessarily compete. But it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like this group absolutely loathes losing to the Yankees like
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  Speaker 2: groups in the past did before.
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  Speaker 3: I think that rivalry's changed. I don't know. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: because certain networks don't really pump it up the same
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  Speaker 3: or they try and it's kind of fake. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: The Red Sox-Yankees rivalry is going to always be big
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  Speaker 3: for the fan base. For the players, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that I don't know that the players hate Cam Schlittler.
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  Speaker 3: Do they want to face him? No. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be the Cy Young in the American League.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the Red Sox fans hate Cam Schlittler
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  Speaker 3: more than anything. I think Yankee fans hate Wilson Contreras
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  Speaker 3: more than players on the Yankees hate Wilson Contreras. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that's different if you're talking about that. I
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  Speaker 3: think the reality is even the Yankees, this could be
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  Speaker 3: said that like, Is their most important thing day one
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  Speaker 3: to game one to game 162 is the most important
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  Speaker 3: thing winning a World Series. And if it's not in
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  Speaker 3: those meetings, then I think they're in the wrong business.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Red Sox are happy about making the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the ownership is happy that they made
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  Speaker 3: a boat ton of money that And they didn't have
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  Speaker 3: to force it with the salaries to go even higher.
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  Speaker 3: So this might be a good season with a bad
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  Speaker 3: outcome for the future because it shows they don't need
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  Speaker 3: Rafi Devers. It shows they can trade for guys with
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  Speaker 3: expiring contracts that other teams are going to pay for.
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  Speaker 3: It shows that they can play with a young lineup.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't go well, but you know what? We got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of butts.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Just give fans enough hope, but not really have any
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  Speaker 2: intention of going for it. Another stupid move by the
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: Boston Red Sox is severing ties with Jason Baratek. I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand this at all. When Alex Cora was dismissed
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  Speaker 2: of his duties and other members of the coaching staff, Tech,
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  Speaker 2: apparently they're still trying, AJ, to get him back in
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  Speaker 2: the fold. But it's been a very.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: Contentious parting, if you will, of Jason Veritech and that club.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how you let this guy go, but
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you this, it's never going to be
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  Speaker 2: the same.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't know how that happens either. Listen, this
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  Speaker 5: guy was a stud for your organization for a long time.
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  Speaker 5: He helped break the curse.
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  Speaker 1: He was the leader. He was the captain of this team.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, the reason I think he went with Alex is
• 10:01
  Speaker 5: because he was when you fire the manager, you kind
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  Speaker 5: of need to get rid of his closest confidants. And
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  Speaker 5: Veritech was one of those guys with AC.
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  Speaker 1: Can you get him back?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, does Jason want to do that? Does he
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  Speaker 1: want to try?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what Jason wants to do, but I
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  Speaker 5: love tech. He's an Orlando guy, catcher, great flat top
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  Speaker 5: back in the day. Um, so I don't know how
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  Speaker 5: this happens, if it can happen, but I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 5: if you're the Red Sox, you just can't let an
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  Speaker 5: asset like that get away. It's not the same as
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  Speaker 5: like losing David Ortiz or someone like that, but it's
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  Speaker 5: pretty darn close. Cause this guy has done a ton
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  Speaker 5: for this organization, done a ton for the city of
• 10:39
  Speaker 5: Boston and just is a good, genuinely good dude.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Would you see the Cardinals if Yadier Molina stuck around
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  Speaker 3: and never left? Would you see the Cardinals ever? letting
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: Yadier Molina go?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I mean, unless, okay.
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  Speaker 5: The only way I could see it is like, if
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  Speaker 5: he was the manager and it didn't work out, something
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  Speaker 5: like that, but they would still want him to stay
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  Speaker 5: in the organization. The fact that they got rid of
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  Speaker 5: Veritech when they did is what was most surprising to
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  Speaker 5: me was, was he was like one of the casualties
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  Speaker 5: with AC. And I, again, I don't know all that
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  Speaker 5: happened there, but it was just, it was just a
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  Speaker 5: weird thing, but I know him and AC were very tight.
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  Speaker 5: I know I do meetings and I'd go in there
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  Speaker 5: and it'd be, A.C. Veritech and Ramon Vasquez sitting in
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  Speaker 5: there talking along.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times Pedro was in there. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know, but I hope.
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  Speaker 5: It works out because Veritech needs to be a part
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  Speaker 5: of the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 2: No question about it. It's like the Yankees saying that
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  Speaker 2: we don't need Derek Jeter. It's about the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: This might be an explanation, guys, about why Josh Naylor
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  Speaker 2: and Cal Raleigh of the Mariners had down years offensively. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: they both underwent successful procedures on a couple of different
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  Speaker 2: places and are expected to be ready for 2027 spring training.
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  Speaker 2: Raleigh had an acromioclavicular clear. You say that correctly. Debridement procedure.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure I butchered that on his left shoulder. That
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  Speaker 2: was on Saturday. And then Naylor had fibrocartilage complex repair
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  Speaker 2: surgery on his right wrist the same day. Does that
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  Speaker 2: kind of make you feel like, Oh, they were probably
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  Speaker 2: dealing with this for quite some time. And perhaps that
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  Speaker 2: explains AJ, the, uh, the offensive, um, struggles, if you will.
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  Speaker 4: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they played with it. Guys play with stuff
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's guys I know, for a fact, I'm
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: not going to say who that are playing right now
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  Speaker 5: with injuries that are playing in the playoffs. So that
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  Speaker 5: they're going to have to have surgery after the season
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  Speaker 5: is over.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, could it, could it lead to bad things?
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: But this is more of a, Hey, we want, if they,
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  Speaker 5: when people find out in spring training, they had surgery,
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  Speaker 5: we don't want to be behind it, but what was it?
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  Speaker 1: Left shoulder for Cal and wrist for Naylor. Does it
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  Speaker 1: affect you? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: But guys play with stuff all the time. So no,
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  Speaker 5: it's not an excuse. And I don't think they'd use
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  Speaker 5: it as an excuse. It's just something they wanted to
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  Speaker 5: get out there and, It's understandable.
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: Standard PSA. You're never 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a difference between being hurt and injured.
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• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Cubs season as a failure, guys. I would imagine he's
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  Speaker 2: a competitive guy. They didn't make the postseason in terms of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, going very deep into it, lost in a
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  Speaker 2: wild card round. What say you, E.K.? 100% agree.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about mindsets. We just talked about the White Sox,
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  Speaker 3: who are about to make it to the American League
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  Speaker 3: Championship Series. And it was brought up by people that
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  Speaker 3: know the White Sox. Chris Getz didn't think this was
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: going to be a good season or as good a
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  Speaker 3: season as it was going to be. Jerry Reinsdorf didn't
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  Speaker 3: think this is where they were going to be. They
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  Speaker 3: had no idea. Bregman comes into an organization and he
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  Speaker 3: signs there because he says, we are going to win
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  Speaker 3: a World Series. He's not signing someplace where he's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, we'll see what we do. It's a mindset.
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  Speaker 3: So when you want to win a World Series and
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  Speaker 3: you fall short of that, like very short of it,
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  Speaker 3: not even making it to the NLDS, then, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: a failure. And I think that's going to be his
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  Speaker 3: expectation throughout every year of his contract, which should make
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  Speaker 3: the north side happy.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost as if somebody said it's a failure when
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  Speaker 1: you don't win the World Series as a player.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Stupid enough to say that or expect that. I don't know,
• 15:52
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• 15:55
  Speaker 5: go into a season or you're having a great season
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  Speaker 5: and you get to the post season, your expectations, whatever
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  Speaker 5: they were at the start of the year, as the
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  Speaker 5: year goes, they should change. And when you get to
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  Speaker 5: the post season, your expectation is to win the world series.
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  Speaker 5: So was it a, was it complete and utter failure? No,
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  Speaker 5: they made the post season.
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  Speaker 1: Cool. They got spanked by the Padres. They're home already.
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  Speaker 5: So was it, if, was it a, successful season and
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Alex Bregman and I, who's won a few world series,
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: absolutely not.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: And nor should it ever change.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: Stay that way Bregman and teach the other people in
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: the league how to do it because that's what you've
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: done everywhere you've been as you've won games and you've
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: taken your team deep and into the post season in
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: one world series.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: So don't ever change.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: You don't do great things with a half, half-hearted mindset.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I'll ever be as good as
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: AJ Pruszynski, but if I have a terrible mindset of,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I hope this happens.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: It's not going to happen. The game is too hard.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Winning a World Series is too hard. You have to
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: all be bought in 100%. And bringing a guy like
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Bregman into an organization changes that. Red Sox.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Horrible, he described it as. The goal is to win,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and we didn't play well enough to do that. So
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: now it's time to look in the mirror and get better.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I know myself and a lot of these guys will
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: be thinking about it every day of the offseason and
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: let it fuel us.