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ABC Worry Free: Helping Kids Turn Anxiety into Confidence · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:06
  Hi,
• 4:06
  I'm
• 4:06
  Noelle
• 4:07
  Foy
• 4:07
  and
• 4:07
  I'm
• 4:07
  the
• 4:08
  author
• 4:08
  of
• 4:08
  ABC
• 4:09
  Worry,
• 4:10
  Are
• 4:10
  youe
• 4:11
  a
• 4:11
  Bird
• 4:11
  Like
• 4:12
  Me?
• 4:12
  And
• 4:12
  15
• 4:13
  Minute
• 4:13
  Focus
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  Executive
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  Function.
• 4:15
  Thanks
• 4:16
  Noel,
• 4:16
  for
• 4:17
  appearing
• 4:17
  on
• 4:17
  the
• 4:17
  Adventures
• 4:18
  of
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  Heart
• 4:18
  of
• 4:19
  Children's
• 4:19
  Book
• 4:19
  Authors
• 4:20
  podcast.
• 4:22
  Today
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  we're
• 4:22
  going
• 4:22
  to
• 4:23
  focus
• 4:23
  on
• 4:23
  Noelle's
• 4:24
  children's
• 4:24
  books.
• 4:25
  However,
• 4:25
  we
• 4:26
  do
• 4:26
  have
• 4:26
  some
• 4:26
  surprises
• 4:27
  for
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  listening
• 4:28
  audience
• 4:29
  as
• 4:29
  we
• 4:29
  get
• 4:29
  further
• 4:30
  into
• 4:30
  our
• 4:30
  conversation.
• 4:32
  Noel,
• 4:32
  before
• 4:33
  we
• 4:33
  get
• 4:33
  into
• 4:33
  the
• 4:34
  details
• 4:34
  of
• 4:34
  your
• 4:35
  books,
• 4:35
  can
• 4:35
  you
• 4:36
  tell
• 4:36
  us
• 4:36
  what
• 4:36
  being
• 4:37
  a
• 4:37
  children's
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  book
• 4:38
  author
• 4:38
  means
• 4:39
  to
• 4:39
  you?
• 4:40
  Oh,
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  I
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  consider
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  it
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  an
• 4:41
  honor.
• 4:42
  I
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  consider
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  it
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  a
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  blessing
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  to
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  think
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  that
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  you
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  have
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  potential
• 4:47
  to
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  impact
• 4:49
  kids
• 4:49
  lives
• 4:49
  and
• 4:50
  potentially
• 4:51
  even
• 4:51
  their
• 4:51
  parents
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  or
• 4:53
  could
• 4:53
  be
• 4:53
  teachers.
• 4:55
  Who
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  knows
• 4:55
  who's
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  reading
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  books,
• 4:56
  maybe
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  even
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  grandparents.
• 4:59
  And
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  my
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  books
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  focus
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  on
• 5:03
  skill
• 5:03
  building
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  and
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  helping
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  kids
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  face
• 5:06
  their
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  fears
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  and
• 5:08
  hopefully
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  help
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  them
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  with
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  their
• 5:09
  mindset
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  and
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  having
• 5:10
  a
• 5:10
  productive
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  mindset
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  so
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  they
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  can
• 5:12
  face
• 5:12
  challenges.
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  So
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  to
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  think
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  that
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  you
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  could
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  possibly
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  empower
• 5:16
  kids
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  and
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  help
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  them
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  believe
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  in
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  themselves
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  and
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  potentially
• 5:21
  transform
• 5:22
  themselves
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  and
• 5:23
  build
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  better
• 5:24
  brains
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  and
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  better
• 5:25
  skills
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  and
• 5:26
  mindsets,
• 5:26
  that
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  just
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  is
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  incredibly
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  gratifying
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  for
• 5:29
  me.
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  Fantastic.
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  And
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  just
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  so
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  the
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  listening
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  audience
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  knows,
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  we
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  will
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  be
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  sharing
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  links
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  to
• 5:35
  Noelle's
• 5:36
  website.
• 5:37
  Noel's
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  got
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  great
• 5:38
  website.
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  It's
• 5:40
  an
• 5:40
  interesting
• 5:41
  website
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  in
• 5:42
  that
• 5:43
  there's
• 5:44
  going
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  to
• 5:44
  be
• 5:44
  some
• 5:44
  revealing
• 5:45
  of
• 5:45
  things
• 5:46
  for
• 5:46
  our
• 5:46
  listening
• 5:47
  audience.
• 5:47
  Before
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  we
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  get
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  on
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  the
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  book
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  business
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  side
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  with
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  your
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  website,
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  talk
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  to
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  you
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  about
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  both
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  your
• 5:54
  books,
• 5:54
  both
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  your
• 5:55
  children's
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  books.
• 5:56
  Let's
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  go
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  to,
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  to
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  your
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  first
• 5:57
  book,
• 5:58
  ABC
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  Worry
• 5:59
  Free.
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  know
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  you
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  expressed
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  was
• 6:02
  an
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  honor
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  to
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  write
• 6:03
  children's
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  books,
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  but
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  I'm
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  curious
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  about
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  your
• 6:06
  origin
• 6:07
  story.
• 6:07
  What
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  was
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  inspiration
• 6:08
  for
• 6:09
  your
• 6:09
  first
• 6:09
  children's
• 6:10
  book?
• 6:11
  It's
• 6:12
  really
• 6:12
  a
• 6:13
  process
• 6:13
  of
• 6:13
  connecting
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  dots
• 6:14
  for
• 6:15
  me.
• 6:15
  I
• 6:16
  was
• 6:16
  an
• 6:16
  anxious
• 6:16
  kid
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  and
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  back
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  when
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  I
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  was
• 6:18
  growing
• 6:18
  up,
• 6:20
  my
• 6:20
  school
• 6:21
  didn't
• 6:21
  even
• 6:21
  have
• 6:21
  a
• 6:22
  counselor.
• 6:23
  So
• 6:23
  when
• 6:23
  I
• 6:23
  was
• 6:24
  having
• 6:24
  a
• 6:24
  hard
• 6:24
  time
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  just
• 6:26
  getting
• 6:26
  to
• 6:27
  school
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  or
• 6:27
  once
• 6:27
  I
• 6:28
  got
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  to
• 6:28
  school
• 6:28
  getting
• 6:29
  into
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  classroom,
• 6:30
  nobody
• 6:31
  really
• 6:31
  knew
• 6:31
  what
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  to
• 6:32
  do
• 6:32
  with
• 6:32
  me.
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  So
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  I
• 6:35
  was
• 6:35
  thrown
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  into
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  the
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  girls
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  room
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  and
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  told
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  to
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  just
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  get
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  myself
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  together
• 6:39
  before
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  you
• 6:39
  could
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  come
• 6:40
  into
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  the
• 6:40
  classroom.
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  And
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  I
• 6:41
  was
• 6:42
  literally
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  dragged
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  up
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  two
• 6:43
  flights
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  of
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  stairs
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  by
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  two
• 6:45
  nuns.
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  That's,
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  that's
• 6:47
  what
• 6:47
  they
• 6:48
  did
• 6:48
  back
• 6:48
  in
• 6:48
  the
• 6:48
  day.
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  Nobody
• 6:49
  really
• 6:50
  knew
• 6:50
  and
• 6:50
  my
• 6:50
  parents
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  didn't
• 6:51
  really
• 6:51
  know
• 6:52
  what
• 6:52
  to
• 6:52
  do
• 6:52
  with
• 6:52
  me.
• 6:53
  There's
• 6:53
  that
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  personal
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  experience
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  that
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  I
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  had.
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  As
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  kid
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  that
• 6:57
  stayed
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  with
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  you
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  all
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  this
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  time.
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  It
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  did.
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  Yet
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  didn't
• 7:02
  really
• 7:02
  know
• 7:02
  what
• 7:02
  to
• 7:03
  do
• 7:03
  with
• 7:03
  it
• 7:03
  for
• 7:03
  many
• 7:04
  years
• 7:05
  and
• 7:05
  anxiety
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  wasn't
• 7:06
  really
• 7:06
  talked
• 7:07
  about.
• 7:07
  For
• 7:07
  many
• 7:08
  years.
• 7:08
  So
• 7:08
  I
• 7:09
  didn't
• 7:09
  really
• 7:09
  know
• 7:09
  what
• 7:09
  to
• 7:10
  do
• 7:10
  with
• 7:10
  it,
• 7:10
  and
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  didn't
• 7:10
  know
• 7:11
  how
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  manage
• 7:11
  my
• 7:11
  anxiety.
• 7:12
  It's
• 7:12
  like
• 7:13
  an
• 7:13
  internal
• 7:14
  energy,
• 7:14
  in
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  a
• 7:15
  way.
• 7:15
  Yes,
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  you
• 7:16
  can
• 7:16
  be
• 7:16
  very
• 7:16
  much
• 7:17
  in
• 7:17
  your
• 7:17
  head.
• 7:18
  Your
• 7:18
  head
• 7:18
  can
• 7:19
  be.
• 7:19
  Can
• 7:19
  take
• 7:19
  up
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  lot.
• 7:20
  The
• 7:20
  anxiety
• 7:20
  can
• 7:20
  take
• 7:21
  up
• 7:21
  a
• 7:21
  lot
• 7:21
  of
• 7:21
  space.
• 7:22
  You
• 7:22
  can
• 7:22
  be
• 7:23
  really
• 7:23
  anticipating,
• 7:24
  like,
• 7:25
  something
• 7:25
  that
• 7:25
  you're
• 7:26
  fearful
• 7:26
  is
• 7:26
  going
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  happen
• 7:27
  in
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  future.
• 7:28
  And
• 7:29
  you
• 7:29
  can
• 7:29
  be
• 7:30
  thinking
• 7:30
  about
• 7:30
  that.
• 7:30
  Let's
• 7:31
  say,
• 7:31
  for
• 7:31
  example,
• 7:32
  if
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  was
• 7:32
  in
• 7:32
  school,
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  might
• 7:33
  be
• 7:33
  thinking
• 7:34
  about,
• 7:34
  oh,
• 7:34
  my
• 7:34
  gosh,
• 7:35
  I'm
• 7:35
  not
• 7:35
  prepared
• 7:35
  for
• 7:35
  this
• 7:36
  test,
• 7:36
  or
• 7:37
  I
• 7:37
  don't
• 7:38
  think
• 7:38
  this
• 7:38
  teacher
• 7:39
  likes
• 7:39
  me,
• 7:39
  or
• 7:40
  I
• 7:40
  don't
• 7:40
  know
• 7:41
  the
• 7:41
  answer.
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  hope
• 7:42
  she
• 7:42
  doesn't
• 7:42
  call
• 7:42
  on
• 7:43
  me.
• 7:43
  So
• 7:43
  I'm
• 7:43
  in
• 7:43
  my
• 7:44
  head
• 7:44
  with
• 7:44
  those
• 7:44
  thoughts
• 7:45
  instead
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  actually
• 7:45
  listening
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  teacher.
• 7:47
  Okay,
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  had
• 7:48
  this
• 7:49
  anxiety
• 7:51
  bottled
• 7:51
  up,
• 7:52
  and
• 7:52
  so
• 7:53
  tell
• 7:53
  us,
• 7:53
  how
• 7:53
  did
• 7:54
  you
• 7:54
  release
• 7:54
  it
• 7:55
  into
• 7:55
  a
• 7:55
  children's
• 7:56
  book
• 7:57
  years
• 7:57
  later?
• 7:57
  Once
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  became
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  mom,
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  have
• 8:00
  four
• 8:00
  sons,
• 8:01
  it
• 8:01
  felt
• 8:02
  a
• 8:02
  lot
• 8:02
  of
• 8:02
  anxiety,
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  guess,
• 8:03
  and
• 8:03
  didn't
• 8:04
  really
• 8:04
  know
• 8:04
  how
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  manage
• 8:04
  it.
• 8:05
  And
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  was
• 8:06
  starting
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  see
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  little
• 8:07
  bit
• 8:07
  of
• 8:07
  anxiety
• 8:08
  in
• 8:08
  my
• 8:08
  kids,
• 8:09
  which
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  would
• 8:09
  say
• 8:10
  is
• 8:10
  mainly
• 8:10
  because
• 8:10
  I
• 8:11
  was
• 8:11
  modeling
• 8:11
  anxiety.
• 8:13
  And
• 8:14
  then
• 8:14
  I
• 8:15
  was
• 8:15
  noticing
• 8:16
  as
• 8:16
  I
• 8:16
  was
• 8:17
  out
• 8:17
  in
• 8:17
  classrooms.
• 8:17
  So
• 8:18
  my
• 8:18
  background
• 8:18
  is
• 8:18
  in
• 8:19
  teaching.
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  was
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  classroom
• 8:21
  teacher,
• 8:21
  a
• 8:22
  learning
• 8:22
  specialist
• 8:22
  for
• 8:23
  years,
• 8:23
  and
• 8:24
  now
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  am
• 8:25
  an
• 8:26
  anxiety
• 8:26
  and
• 8:26
  executive
• 8:27
  function
• 8:27
  specialist.
• 8:28
  And
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  go
• 8:28
  out
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  lot
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  schools
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  do
• 8:30
  observations
• 8:31
  of
• 8:31
  classrooms
• 8:32
  and
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  do
• 8:33
  teacher
• 8:33
  workshops.
• 8:34
  So
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  was
• 8:34
  noticing
• 8:35
  more
• 8:35
  and
• 8:36
  more
• 8:36
  kids
• 8:37
  had
• 8:37
  their
• 8:37
  heads
• 8:37
  down
• 8:38
  on
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  desk
• 8:38
  or
• 8:39
  were
• 8:39
  acting
• 8:40
  out,
• 8:40
  freaking
• 8:41
  out,
• 8:41
  spacing
• 8:42
  out,
• 8:43
  more
• 8:43
  so
• 8:43
  than
• 8:44
  I'd
• 8:44
  ever
• 8:44
  seen
• 8:44
  before.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  knew
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  data
• 8:47
  at
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  time
• 8:47
  was
• 8:48
  showing
• 8:48
  we
• 8:48
  had
• 8:48
  this
• 8:48
  huge
• 8:49
  spike
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  anxiety
• 8:50
  in
• 8:51
  children.
• 8:52
  So
• 8:53
  I
• 8:53
  started
• 8:53
  connecting
• 8:54
  the
• 8:54
  dots,
• 8:55
  and
• 8:55
  I
• 8:56
  realized
• 8:57
  now
• 8:57
  we
• 8:57
  were
• 8:57
  talking
• 8:57
  about
• 8:58
  anxiety
• 8:59
  more,
• 8:59
  and
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  thought,
• 9:00
  okay,
• 9:01
  if
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  write
• 9:01
  a
• 9:01
  children's
• 9:02
  book,
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  can
• 9:03
  hopefully
• 9:04
  help
• 9:04
  kids
• 9:05
  deal
• 9:05
  with
• 9:05
  this
• 9:05
  at
• 9:06
  a
• 9:06
  younger
• 9:06
  age.
• 9:06
  Because
• 9:07
  I've
• 9:07
  been
• 9:07
  dealing
• 9:07
  with
• 9:07
  this
• 9:08
  my
• 9:08
  whole
• 9:08
  life.
• 9:09
  And
• 9:10
  I
• 9:10
  thought,
• 9:11
  okay,
• 9:11
  maybe
• 9:11
  write
• 9:12
  something
• 9:12
  for
• 9:12
  high
• 9:13
  school
• 9:13
  or
• 9:14
  for
• 9:14
  adults.
• 9:15
  But
• 9:15
  I
• 9:16
  thought,
• 9:16
  let's
• 9:16
  get
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  the
• 9:17
  kids
• 9:17
  and
• 9:18
  develop
• 9:19
  some
• 9:19
  good
• 9:19
  habits
• 9:20
  and
• 9:20
  thinking
• 9:20
  patterns
• 9:21
  and
• 9:21
  skills
• 9:22
  at
• 9:23
  an
• 9:23
  earlier
• 9:23
  age
• 9:24
  that
• 9:24
  hopefully
• 9:25
  by
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  time
• 9:27
  life
• 9:27
  becomes
• 9:28
  more
• 9:28
  challenging,
• 9:29
  they
• 9:29
  have
• 9:29
  some
• 9:30
  tools
• 9:30
  in
• 9:30
  their
• 9:30
  toolkit.
• 9:31
  I'm
• 9:31
  fortunate.
• 9:32
  I've
• 9:32
  got
• 9:32
  five
• 9:33
  healthy,
• 9:34
  active
• 9:35
  grandchildren.
• 9:36
  And
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  one
• 9:37
  thing
• 9:37
  I
• 9:38
  find
• 9:38
  that
• 9:38
  adults
• 9:39
  tend
• 9:39
  to
• 9:39
  do,
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  could
• 9:41
  probably
• 9:41
  be
• 9:41
  accused
• 9:41
  of
• 9:42
  this
• 9:42
  too,
• 9:42
  is
• 9:43
  you
• 9:43
  don't
• 9:43
  give
• 9:43
  kids
• 9:44
  enough
• 9:45
  credit
• 9:46
  for
• 9:46
  how
• 9:46
  intelligent
• 9:47
  they
• 9:47
  really
• 9:48
  are.
• 9:48
  They
• 9:49
  know
• 9:49
  what's
• 9:49
  going
• 9:50
  on
• 9:51
  with
• 9:51
  themselves
• 9:52
  at
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  fairly
• 9:53
  young
• 9:53
  age.
• 9:54
  Like
• 9:54
  you
• 9:55
  said,
• 9:56
  if
• 9:56
  it
• 9:56
  doesn't
• 9:57
  get
• 9:57
  introduced
• 9:58
  or
• 9:58
  talked
• 9:58
  about,
• 9:59
  then
• 9:59
  that's
• 9:59
  what
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  love
• 10:00
  about
• 10:00
  your
• 10:00
  book,
• 10:01
  is
• 10:01
  you
• 10:02
  open
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  door
• 10:03
  up
• 10:03
  and
• 10:05
  create
• 10:06
  that
• 10:06
  conversation
• 10:07
  like
• 10:07
  you're
• 10:07
  not
• 10:07
  assuming
• 10:08
  that
• 10:08
  they
• 10:09
  won't
• 10:09
  get
• 10:09
  it
• 10:11
  right.
• 10:11
  And
• 10:12
  we
• 10:12
  want
• 10:12
  kids
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  talk
• 10:13
  about
• 10:13
  it,
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  we
• 10:14
  want
• 10:14
  parents
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  have
• 10:15
  some
• 10:15
  tools
• 10:16
  as
• 10:16
  well
• 10:17
  and
• 10:17
  not
• 10:17
  to
• 10:18
  feel
• 10:18
  any
• 10:18
  sense
• 10:18
  of
• 10:18
  shame
• 10:19
  about
• 10:19
  it
• 10:19
  and
• 10:20
  to
• 10:20
  feel,
• 10:21
  okay,
• 10:21
  we
• 10:22
  can
• 10:22
  problem
• 10:22
  solve
• 10:22
  this.
• 10:22
  There's
• 10:23
  something
• 10:23
  we
• 10:23
  can
• 10:23
  do
• 10:24
  about
• 10:24
  this.
• 10:24
  This
• 10:24
  is
• 10:25
  treatable,
• 10:25
  this
• 10:26
  is
• 10:26
  manageable.
• 10:27
  So
• 10:27
  let's
• 10:27
  do
• 10:27
  some
• 10:28
  problem
• 10:28
  solving
• 10:28
  here.
• 10:29
  And
• 10:29
  what
• 10:29
  happens
• 10:29
  a
• 10:30
  lot
• 10:30
  of
• 10:30
  times
• 10:30
  is
• 10:31
  when
• 10:32
  kids
• 10:32
  are
• 10:32
  anxious,
• 10:33
  we
• 10:34
  tend
• 10:34
  to
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  most
• 10:36
  common
• 10:37
  reactions
• 10:37
  I
• 10:37
  say
• 10:38
  are
• 10:38
  we
• 10:38
  tend
• 10:38
  to
• 10:38
  zoom
• 10:39
  in
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  try
• 10:40
  to
• 10:40
  help
• 10:40
  them
• 10:40
  avoid
• 10:40
  the
• 10:41
  anxiety.
• 10:42
  Or
• 10:42
  sometimes
• 10:43
  we
• 10:43
  just
• 10:43
  dismiss
• 10:43
  it
• 10:44
  and
• 10:44
  be
• 10:44
  like,
• 10:44
  oh,
• 10:44
  you're
• 10:44
  fine,
• 10:45
  don't
• 10:45
  worry
• 10:45
  about
• 10:45
  it,
• 10:45
  don't
• 10:46
  worry
• 10:46
  about
• 10:46
  it.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:47
  neither
• 10:48
  of
• 10:48
  those
• 10:48
  really
• 10:49
  help
• 10:49
  kids
• 10:49
  build
• 10:50
  skills.
• 10:51
  I
• 10:52
  try
• 10:52
  to
• 10:52
  help
• 10:52
  parents
• 10:53
  with
• 10:53
  some
• 10:54
  language
• 10:55
  that
• 10:55
  can
• 10:55
  be
• 10:55
  helpful,
• 10:56
  some
• 10:56
  responses
• 10:57
  that
• 10:57
  can
• 10:57
  be
• 10:57
  helpful,
• 10:58
  and
• 10:58
  then
• 10:58
  help
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  kids
• 10:59
  in
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  process.
• 11:00
  Good
• 11:01
  for
• 11:01
  you.
• 11:02
  And
• 11:02
  that
• 11:02
  leads
• 11:03
  me
• 11:03
  to
• 11:03
  my
• 11:03
  next
• 11:03
  question,
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  I've
• 11:04
  taken
• 11:05
  a
• 11:05
  little
• 11:05
  different
• 11:05
  spin
• 11:06
  on
• 11:06
  this
• 11:06
  question.
• 11:07
  Normally
• 11:07
  I
• 11:08
  ask
• 11:09
  children's
• 11:09
  book
• 11:09
  authors,
• 11:10
  what's
• 11:10
  their
• 11:11
  book
• 11:11
  business
• 11:11
  plan?
• 11:12
  How
• 11:12
  are
• 11:12
  they
• 11:13
  building
• 11:13
  their
• 11:14
  business
• 11:14
  to
• 11:15
  get
• 11:15
  their
• 11:15
  book
• 11:15
  out
• 11:15
  into
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  world?
• 11:16
  But
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  noticed
• 11:17
  in
• 11:18
  your
• 11:18
  case,
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  I
• 11:19
  loved
• 11:19
  it,
• 11:19
  because
• 11:19
  of
• 11:20
  course,
• 11:20
  I
• 11:20
  went
• 11:20
  to
• 11:20
  your
• 11:20
  website
• 11:21
  and
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  noticed
• 11:23
  that
• 11:23
  your
• 11:23
  books
• 11:24
  are
• 11:24
  a
• 11:25
  part
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  your
• 11:25
  overall
• 11:26
  business
• 11:26
  strategy.
• 11:28
  Can
• 11:28
  you
• 11:28
  explain
• 11:29
  to
• 11:29
  us
• 11:30
  how
• 11:30
  you're
• 11:30
  using
• 11:31
  your
• 11:31
  books
• 11:31
  through
• 11:32
  your
• 11:32
  website?
• 11:33
  One's
• 11:33
  geared
• 11:34
  more
• 11:34
  towards
• 11:35
  educators
• 11:36
  and
• 11:36
  parents
• 11:36
  and
• 11:37
  grandparents,
• 11:38
  and
• 11:38
  then
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  other
• 11:38
  two,
• 11:39
  of
• 11:39
  course,
• 11:39
  are
• 11:40
  geared
• 11:40
  towards
• 11:40
  children.
• 11:41
  So
• 11:42
  explain
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  us
• 11:43
  your
• 11:44
  strategy
• 11:45
  behind
• 11:46
  all
• 11:46
  of
• 11:46
  that
• 11:47
  and
• 11:47
  how
• 11:47
  you're
• 11:47
  using
• 11:47
  your
• 11:48
  children's
• 11:48
  books.
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  hope
• 11:49
  that
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  broaden
• 11:52
  children's
• 11:53
  book
• 11:53
  authors
• 11:54
  in
• 11:54
  the
• 11:55
  way
• 11:55
  they
• 11:55
  use
• 11:55
  their
• 11:55
  children's
• 11:56
  book,
• 11:56
  because
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  get
• 11:57
  a
• 11:57
  lot
• 11:57
  of
• 11:57
  teachers,
• 11:58
  a
• 11:58
  lot
• 11:58
  of
• 11:59
  early
• 11:59
  educators
• 12:00
  on
• 12:00
  this
• 12:00
  show,
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  a
• 12:01
  lot
• 12:01
  of
• 12:01
  them
• 12:02
  are
• 12:02
  starting
• 12:02
  to
• 12:02
  talk
• 12:03
  to
• 12:03
  me
• 12:03
  about
• 12:03
  working
• 12:04
  on
• 12:04
  lesson
• 12:05
  plans
• 12:05
  to
• 12:06
  support
• 12:06
  their
• 12:07
  books.
• 12:08
  And
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  thought,
• 12:08
  wow,
• 12:09
  so
• 12:10
  you've
• 12:10
  taken
• 12:10
  it
• 12:11
  to
• 12:11
  me,
• 12:11
  you've
• 12:12
  taken
• 12:12
  it
• 12:12
  to
• 12:12
  the
• 12:13
  next
• 12:13
  level
• 12:14
  and
• 12:14
  you've
• 12:14
  built
• 12:15
  yourself
• 12:15
  a
• 12:15
  business.
• 12:16
  So
• 12:16
  talk
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  us
• 12:17
  about
• 12:17
  all
• 12:17
  that.
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  know
• 12:17
  that's
• 12:18
  a
• 12:18
  mouthful,
• 12:18
  but
• 12:19
  talk
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  us
• 12:19
  about
• 12:19
  that.
• 12:21
  So
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  evolved
• 12:22
  from
• 12:22
  being
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  classroom
• 12:23
  teacher,
• 12:24
  a
• 12:25
  teacher
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  teachers.
• 12:25
  So
• 12:26
  then
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  went
• 12:26
  out
• 12:26
  into
• 12:26
  schools
• 12:27
  and
• 12:27
  started
• 12:28
  doing
• 12:28
  workshops,
• 12:29
  and
• 12:30
  the
• 12:31
  books
• 12:31
  became
• 12:32
  part
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  my
• 12:33
  workshop.
• 12:34
  So
• 12:34
  if
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  have
• 12:34
  a
• 12:34
  workshop
• 12:35
  on
• 12:36
  anxiety
• 12:36
  and
• 12:37
  helping
• 12:37
  teachers
• 12:38
  with
• 12:39
  how
• 12:39
  to
• 12:39
  manage
• 12:40
  anxious
• 12:40
  kids
• 12:40
  in
• 12:40
  their
• 12:41
  classroom,
• 12:41
  ABC
• 12:42
  Worry
• 12:42
  Free
• 12:42
  can
• 12:43
  be
• 12:43
  a
• 12:43
  Great
• 12:43
  teaching
• 12:44
  tool.
• 12:45
  Are
• 12:45
  youe
• 12:45
  Bird
• 12:46
  Like
• 12:46
  Me?
• 12:47
  Is
• 12:48
  not
• 12:48
  necessarily
• 12:49
  a
• 12:50
  teaching
• 12:50
  tool.
• 12:51
  That
• 12:51
  is
• 12:51
  more
• 12:51
  of
• 12:51
  like
• 12:51
  a
• 12:52
  classroom
• 12:52
  read
• 12:52
  aloud
• 12:53
  that
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  could
• 12:54
  have
• 12:54
  a
• 12:54
  curriculum
• 12:55
  with.
• 12:55
  You
• 12:55
  could
• 12:55
  have
• 12:56
  one
• 12:56
  for
• 12:56
  ABC
• 12:56
  Worry
• 12:57
  Free
• 12:57
  too.
• 12:58
  And
• 12:59
  you
• 12:59
  could
• 12:59
  do
• 12:59
  all
• 12:59
  sorts
• 13:00
  of
• 13:00
  great
• 13:00
  writing
• 13:00
  assignments
• 13:01
  with
• 13:01
  it.
• 13:02
  You
• 13:02
  can
• 13:02
  have
• 13:03
  incredible
• 13:03
  discussions.
• 13:04
  ABC
• 13:05
  Worry
• 13:05
  Free.
• 13:06
  When
• 13:06
  I
• 13:06
  do
• 13:06
  author
• 13:07
  visits,
• 13:08
  that's
• 13:08
  different
• 13:08
  from
• 13:09
  my
• 13:09
  workshops.
• 13:09
  Of
• 13:10
  course
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  author
• 13:10
  visits.
• 13:11
  I'm
• 13:11
  coming
• 13:11
  in
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  I'm
• 13:12
  reading
• 13:12
  to
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  kids
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  we're
• 13:14
  doing
• 13:14
  activities
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  I'm
• 13:15
  teaching
• 13:15
  them.
• 13:16
  The
• 13:16
  ABC
• 13:16
  trick
• 13:17
  from
• 13:18
  ABC
• 13:18
  Worry
• 13:18
  Free
• 13:19
  books
• 13:20
  are
• 13:21
  part
• 13:21
  of
• 13:21
  my
• 13:21
  visit.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:23
  for
• 13:24
  example,
• 13:25
  I
• 13:25
  might
• 13:25
  come
• 13:25
  in
• 13:25
  and
• 13:26
  talk
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  whole
• 13:27
  school.
• 13:28
  I
• 13:28
  might
• 13:28
  come
• 13:28
  in
• 13:28
  and
• 13:29
  talk
• 13:29
  to
• 13:30
  K
• 13:30
  through
• 13:31
  four
• 13:32
  grades
• 13:32
  and
• 13:32
  I
• 13:32
  might
• 13:32
  go
• 13:33
  in
• 13:33
  and
• 13:33
  they
• 13:33
  might
• 13:34
  combine
• 13:34
  a
• 13:34
  couple
• 13:34
  grades.
• 13:35
  But
• 13:35
  I
• 13:35
  might
• 13:35
  go
• 13:35
  to
• 13:36
  individual
• 13:36
  classes
• 13:37
  and
• 13:37
  I
• 13:37
  actually
• 13:38
  teach
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  lesson
• 13:39
  in
• 13:39
  addition
• 13:39
  to
• 13:40
  reading
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  book.
• 13:42
  So
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  love
• 13:43
  getting
• 13:43
  in
• 13:43
  with
• 13:43
  the
• 13:43
  kids.
• 13:44
  That's
• 13:44
  one
• 13:44
  of
• 13:44
  my
• 13:44
  favorite
• 13:45
  things
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  do.
• 13:46
  And
• 13:48
  then
• 13:48
  the
• 13:48
  workshops
• 13:49
  obviously
• 13:49
  more
• 13:49
  designed
• 13:50
  for
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  teachers.
• 13:50
  And
• 13:50
  then
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  also
• 13:51
  do
• 13:51
  parent
• 13:52
  workshops
• 13:52
  as
• 13:53
  well.
• 13:53
  The
• 13:54
  books
• 13:54
  are
• 13:55
  just
• 13:55
  great
• 13:55
  tools
• 13:56
  to
• 13:56
  have.
• 13:57
  And
• 13:58
  for
• 13:58
  example,
• 13:58
  in
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  back
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  ABC
• 13:59
  Worry
• 14:00
  Free,
• 14:00
  there's
• 14:00
  some
• 14:00
  do's
• 14:01
  and
• 14:01
  don'ts
• 14:01
  for
• 14:02
  parents
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  grandparents.
• 14:03
  Any
• 14:03
  adults
• 14:04
  in
• 14:04
  kids
• 14:04
  lives.
• 14:04
  Because
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  feel
• 14:07
  that
• 14:07
  a
• 14:07
  lot
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  the
• 14:08
  information
• 14:08
  we
• 14:08
  get
• 14:08
  about
• 14:09
  anxiety
• 14:09
  is
• 14:10
  not
• 14:10
  actually
• 14:10
  accurate
• 14:11
  or
• 14:11
  helpful.
• 14:12
  So
• 14:13
  I'm
• 14:13
  trying
• 14:13
  to
• 14:13
  give
• 14:14
  parents
• 14:14
  and
• 14:14
  the
• 14:15
  adults
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  kids
• 14:15
  lives
• 14:16
  some
• 14:16
  accurate,
• 14:17
  helpful
• 14:17
  information
• 14:19
  in
• 14:19
  very
• 14:19
  practical,
• 14:20
  simple
• 14:21
  ways.
• 14:21
  I
• 14:22
  noticed
• 14:22
  you
• 14:22
  have
• 14:22
  one
• 14:23
  on
• 14:23
  one
• 14:23
  training.
• 14:24
  Is
• 14:24
  that
• 14:24
  primarily
• 14:25
  geared
• 14:26
  at
• 14:26
  educators
• 14:27
  and
• 14:27
  adults
• 14:28
  or
• 14:29
  do
• 14:29
  you
• 14:29
  go
• 14:29
  the
• 14:30
  whole
• 14:30
  gambit
• 14:30
  from
• 14:31
  child
• 14:31
  to
• 14:32
  educator,
• 14:32
  parent?
• 14:33
  Good
• 14:34
  question.
• 14:34
  It
• 14:35
  goes
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  whole
• 14:35
  gamut.
• 14:36
  I
• 14:36
  have
• 14:37
  worked
• 14:37
  with
• 14:37
  as
• 14:37
  young
• 14:38
  as
• 14:38
  five
• 14:38
  year
• 14:39
  olds
• 14:39
  and
• 14:40
  I'd
• 14:40
  say
• 14:40
  right
• 14:41
  now
• 14:41
  my
• 14:41
  oldest
• 14:42
  student
• 14:42
  is
• 14:43
  about
• 14:43
  68
• 14:44
  and
• 14:44
  I
• 14:45
  have
• 14:45
  everybody
• 14:45
  in
• 14:46
  between.
• 14:46
  I
• 14:46
  work
• 14:47
  with
• 14:47
  elementary,
• 14:48
  middle,
• 14:48
  high
• 14:49
  school,
• 14:49
  junior
• 14:49
  high,
• 14:50
  college
• 14:51
  students,
• 14:51
  adults,
• 14:53
  and
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  lot
• 14:54
  of
• 14:54
  them
• 14:55
  deal
• 14:55
  with
• 14:55
  anxiety,
• 14:56
  but
• 14:56
  many
• 14:57
  also
• 14:57
  deal
• 14:57
  with
• 14:57
  executive
• 14:58
  function
• 14:59
  challenges.
• 15:00
  And
• 15:00
  the
• 15:01
  reason
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  bring
• 15:01
  that
• 15:01
  into
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  conversation
• 15:02
  right
• 15:03
  now
• 15:03
  is
• 15:04
  anxious
• 15:04
  people
• 15:05
  can
• 15:05
  hijack
• 15:06
  their
• 15:06
  executive
• 15:06
  function.
• 15:07
  So
• 15:07
  you
• 15:07
  can
• 15:08
  get
• 15:08
  very
• 15:08
  anxious
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  then
• 15:09
  you
• 15:09
  lose
• 15:10
  access
• 15:10
  to
• 15:11
  your
• 15:11
  ability
• 15:11
  to
• 15:12
  focus
• 15:12
  and
• 15:12
  pay
• 15:13
  attention.
• 15:14
  Just
• 15:14
  like
• 15:14
  I
• 15:14
  was
• 15:14
  saying
• 15:15
  earlier
• 15:15
  when
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  was
• 15:16
  that
• 15:16
  kid
• 15:16
  in
• 15:17
  science
• 15:17
  class,
• 15:18
  I
• 15:18
  was
• 15:19
  so
• 15:19
  in
• 15:19
  my
• 15:19
  worries.
• 15:20
  I
• 15:20
  wasn't
• 15:20
  really
• 15:21
  focused
• 15:21
  in
• 15:21
  paying
• 15:22
  attention
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  teacher.
• 15:23
  So
• 15:23
  I
• 15:23
  could
• 15:24
  look
• 15:24
  like
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  have
• 15:25
  ADHD
• 15:25
  because
• 15:26
  I'm
• 15:26
  not
• 15:26
  paying
• 15:26
  attention,
• 15:27
  but
• 15:27
  it's
• 15:27
  really
• 15:27
  my
• 15:27
  anxiety.
• 15:28
  For
• 15:29
  me,
• 15:29
  there
• 15:29
  are
• 15:29
  kids
• 15:30
  with
• 15:30
  ADHD
• 15:31
  of
• 15:31
  course
• 15:31
  that
• 15:32
  are
• 15:32
  struggling
• 15:32
  with
• 15:33
  attention,
• 15:34
  but
• 15:34
  there
• 15:34
  is
• 15:34
  a
• 15:35
  connection
• 15:35
  of
• 15:35
  anxiety
• 15:36
  and
• 15:36
  executive
• 15:37
  function.
• 15:38
  Yeah,
• 15:39
  trying
• 15:39
  to
• 15:40
  really
• 15:40
  empower
• 15:41
  the
• 15:41
  teachers.
• 15:41
  The
• 15:42
  Parents,
• 15:42
  the
• 15:43
  students.
• 15:43
  And
• 15:45
  I
• 15:45
  just
• 15:45
  feel
• 15:45
  like
• 15:46
  these
• 15:46
  are
• 15:46
  tools
• 15:47
  that,
• 15:47
  you
• 15:47
  know,
• 15:49
  from
• 15:49
  what
• 15:49
  I've
• 15:49
  been
• 15:50
  hearing,
• 15:50
  that
• 15:50
  parents
• 15:51
  and
• 15:51
  teachers
• 15:51
  are
• 15:52
  seeking,
• 15:52
  they're
• 15:52
  looking
• 15:53
  for
• 15:53
  support.
• 15:54
  Unfortunately,
• 15:54
  the
• 15:55
  numbers
• 15:55
  of
• 15:55
  anxious
• 15:56
  kids
• 15:56
  have
• 15:56
  not
• 15:56
  gone
• 15:57
  down.
• 15:58
  They're
• 15:58
  still
• 15:58
  pretty
• 15:58
  high.
• 15:59
  I've
• 16:00
  talked
• 16:00
  to
• 16:00
  several
• 16:01
  children's
• 16:01
  book
• 16:02
  authors
• 16:02
  who
• 16:03
  have
• 16:03
  done
• 16:04
  author
• 16:04
  visits,
• 16:05
  and
• 16:06
  of
• 16:06
  course,
• 16:06
  there's
• 16:07
  been
• 16:07
  adults
• 16:07
  in
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  room.
• 16:09
  What
• 16:09
  they've
• 16:09
  told
• 16:09
  me
• 16:10
  is
• 16:10
  a
• 16:10
  lot
• 16:10
  of
• 16:10
  times
• 16:11
  the
• 16:11
  adults
• 16:11
  will
• 16:12
  come
• 16:12
  up
• 16:12
  to
• 16:12
  them
• 16:12
  and
• 16:12
  they'll
• 16:13
  say,
• 16:13
  I
• 16:13
  want
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  thank
• 16:14
  you
• 16:14
  so
• 16:14
  much.
• 16:15
  I.
• 16:15
  I
• 16:15
  love
• 16:15
  your
• 16:15
  book
• 16:16
  and
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  see
• 16:17
  myself
• 16:18
  in
• 16:18
  your
• 16:18
  book.
• 16:19
  Talk
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  us
• 16:20
  about
• 16:20
  that.
• 16:20
  Because
• 16:21
  are
• 16:21
  you
• 16:21
  getting
• 16:21
  people
• 16:22
  coming
• 16:22
  up
• 16:22
  to
• 16:22
  you
• 16:23
  who
• 16:23
  are
• 16:24
  just
• 16:24
  like,
• 16:24
  you
• 16:25
  went
• 16:25
  through
• 16:25
  their
• 16:26
  whole
• 16:26
  childhood,
• 16:27
  went
• 16:27
  through
• 16:27
  school,
• 16:28
  and
• 16:28
  then
• 16:28
  all
• 16:29
  of
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  sudden
• 16:29
  you
• 16:29
  took
• 16:29
  that
• 16:30
  bottled
• 16:30
  up
• 16:31
  anxiety
• 16:32
  or
• 16:32
  energy
• 16:33
  and
• 16:33
  you
• 16:33
  wrote
• 16:34
  your
• 16:34
  first
• 16:34
  book.
• 16:35
  Have
• 16:35
  you
• 16:35
  had
• 16:36
  adults
• 16:36
  come
• 16:36
  up
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  you
• 16:37
  and
• 16:37
  say,
• 16:38
  wow,
• 16:39
  you
• 16:40
  got
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  essence
• 16:40
  of
• 16:41
  who
• 16:41
  I
• 16:41
  am?
• 16:42
  I've
• 16:42
  had
• 16:42
  adults
• 16:43
  say
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  me,
• 16:44
  I'm
• 16:45
  using
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  strategy.
• 16:46
  And
• 16:47
  some
• 16:47
  of
• 16:47
  them
• 16:48
  maybe,
• 16:48
  like
• 16:49
  me,
• 16:49
  hadn't
• 16:50
  really
• 16:52
  addressed
• 16:52
  their
• 16:52
  anxiety.
• 16:54
  Especially
• 16:54
  if
• 16:55
  you're,
• 16:56
  say,
• 16:56
  I'm
• 16:57
  66.
• 16:58
  If
• 16:58
  you're
• 17:00
  of
• 17:00
  my
• 17:00
  generation,
• 17:01
  it
• 17:01
  wasn't
• 17:02
  really
• 17:02
  talked
• 17:02
  about
• 17:03
  so
• 17:03
  much.
• 17:04
  So
• 17:04
  the
• 17:05
  older
• 17:05
  folks,
• 17:05
  I
• 17:05
  would
• 17:05
  say,
• 17:06
  tend
• 17:06
  to
• 17:06
  say
• 17:06
  that
• 17:07
  more
• 17:07
  frequently.
• 17:09
  And
• 17:10
  yes,
• 17:10
  I've
• 17:11
  had
• 17:11
  kids
• 17:11
  say
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  me,
• 17:12
  as
• 17:12
  soon
• 17:12
  as
• 17:12
  I
• 17:13
  finish,
• 17:13
  they're
• 17:13
  like
• 17:14
  circling
• 17:14
  me
• 17:15
  like
• 17:15
  this
• 17:15
  little
• 17:15
  beehive
• 17:16
  of
• 17:16
  kids.
• 17:17
  They
• 17:17
  want
• 17:17
  to
• 17:17
  tell
• 17:18
  me
• 17:18
  about
• 17:18
  things
• 17:18
  that
• 17:19
  they're
• 17:19
  worried
• 17:19
  about.
• 17:20
  And
• 17:20
  I'm
• 17:20
  always
• 17:21
  fascinated
• 17:22
  how
• 17:22
  open
• 17:22
  they.
• 17:22
  Are
• 17:23
  about
• 17:24
  honor,
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  mouths
• 17:25
  of
• 17:25
  babes.
• 17:26
  Yes.
• 17:26
  They're
• 17:27
  so
• 17:27
  honest.
• 17:28
  Absolutely
• 17:29
  no,
• 17:29
  no
• 17:29
  daughter.
• 17:31
  And
• 17:31
  with
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  most
• 17:32
  recent
• 17:32
  book
• 17:32
  on
• 17:33
  executive
• 17:33
  function,
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  have
• 17:34
  one,
• 17:34
  one
• 17:35
  student
• 17:35
  I
• 17:35
  work
• 17:36
  with
• 17:36
  who
• 17:36
  said
• 17:36
  to
• 17:36
  me,
• 17:37
  I
• 17:37
  feel
• 17:37
  like
• 17:38
  you
• 17:38
  were
• 17:38
  following
• 17:38
  me
• 17:39
  around
• 17:39
  for
• 17:39
  most
• 17:40
  of
• 17:40
  my
• 17:40
  life
• 17:40
  of
• 17:41
  seeing
• 17:41
  myself
• 17:41
  in
• 17:42
  this
• 17:42
  book.
• 17:43
  And
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  didn't
• 17:44
  think
• 17:45
  there
• 17:45
  was
• 17:45
  hope
• 17:45
  for
• 17:45
  people
• 17:46
  like
• 17:46
  me.
• 17:47
  Wow,
• 17:48
  good
• 17:48
  for
• 17:48
  you.
• 17:49
  That
• 17:49
  obviously
• 17:50
  really
• 17:51
  tugs
• 17:51
  at
• 17:51
  your
• 17:51
  heart
• 17:52
  when
• 17:52
  you
• 17:52
  hear
• 17:52
  things
• 17:53
  like
• 17:53
  that.
• 17:53
  Before
• 17:53
  we
• 17:54
  move
• 17:54
  on
• 17:54
  to
• 17:55
  some
• 17:55
  of
• 17:55
  the
• 17:55
  more
• 17:56
  structural
• 17:56
  stuff
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  your
• 17:57
  books,
• 17:58
  I'm
• 17:58
  curious,
• 17:59
  do
• 17:59
  you
• 17:59
  mind
• 18:00
  sharing
• 18:00
  what
• 18:01
  ABC
• 18:02
  stands
• 18:02
  for?
• 18:03
  Oh,
• 18:03
  of
• 18:04
  course,
• 18:04
  Yes.
• 18:05
  I
• 18:05
  was
• 18:05
  thinking
• 18:05
  of
• 18:05
  what
• 18:06
  would
• 18:06
  be
• 18:06
  simple
• 18:07
  and
• 18:07
  quick,
• 18:08
  something
• 18:08
  that
• 18:08
  would
• 18:08
  be
• 18:09
  easy
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  remember.
• 18:09
  So
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  thought,
• 18:10
  okay,
• 18:11
  kids
• 18:11
  know
• 18:12
  their
• 18:12
  ABCs.
• 18:13
  So
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  ABC
• 18:14
  came
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  mind.
• 18:15
  And
• 18:16
  so
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  A
• 18:16
  stands
• 18:17
  for
• 18:17
  accept
• 18:17
  how
• 18:18
  you
• 18:18
  feel.
• 18:19
  As
• 18:19
  I
• 18:19
  said
• 18:19
  earlier,
• 18:20
  Rick,
• 18:20
  a
• 18:20
  lot
• 18:20
  of
• 18:21
  times
• 18:21
  with
• 18:21
  anxiety,
• 18:22
  anxious
• 18:23
  kids
• 18:23
  are
• 18:23
  dismissed.
• 18:24
  It's
• 18:24
  just,
• 18:24
  oh,
• 18:25
  you're
• 18:25
  fine,
• 18:25
  you're
• 18:26
  fine,
• 18:26
  don't
• 18:26
  worry
• 18:26
  about
• 18:26
  it.
• 18:28
  And
• 18:28
  so
• 18:28
  it's
• 18:29
  actually
• 18:29
  no,
• 18:30
  actually
• 18:30
  notice
• 18:30
  and
• 18:31
  accept
• 18:31
  how
• 18:31
  you
• 18:31
  Feel.
• 18:32
  So
• 18:32
  that's
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  A.
• 18:33
  The
• 18:34
  B
• 18:34
  is
• 18:34
  to
• 18:35
  breathe
• 18:36
  slow
• 18:36
  and
• 18:37
  deep.
• 18:37
  One
• 18:38
  way
• 18:38
  we
• 18:38
  can
• 18:38
  get
• 18:39
  our
• 18:39
  executive
• 18:40
  function
• 18:40
  back
• 18:41
  and
• 18:41
  also
• 18:41
  get
• 18:42
  our
• 18:42
  thinking
• 18:42
  brain
• 18:43
  back
• 18:43
  and
• 18:44
  feel
• 18:45
  more
• 18:45
  regulated
• 18:46
  in
• 18:46
  our
• 18:46
  body
• 18:47
  is
• 18:47
  to
• 18:48
  do
• 18:48
  slow,
• 18:48
  deep
• 18:48
  breathing.
• 18:49
  Just
• 18:49
  pump
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  brakes.
• 18:51
  So
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  breathing
• 18:51
  is
• 18:52
  B
• 18:53
  and
• 18:53
  then
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  C
• 18:54
  is
• 18:54
  change
• 18:54
  your
• 18:54
  thinking.
• 18:56
  So
• 18:56
  for
• 18:56
  a
• 18:56
  kid
• 18:57
  like
• 18:57
  me,
• 18:57
  I
• 18:57
  often
• 18:58
  thought
• 18:58
  very
• 18:58
  anxious
• 18:59
  thoughts.
• 18:59
  I'll
• 19:00
  never
• 19:00
  get
• 19:00
  this
• 19:00
  done.
• 19:01
  I'll
• 19:01
  never
• 19:01
  get
• 19:01
  this.
• 19:02
  Everyone's
• 19:03
  smarter
• 19:03
  than
• 19:03
  I
• 19:04
  am,
• 19:04
  or
• 19:04
  don't
• 19:04
  call
• 19:04
  on
• 19:04
  me.
• 19:05
  I'm
• 19:05
  going
• 19:05
  to
• 19:05
  look
• 19:05
  like
• 19:05
  I
• 19:06
  didn't
• 19:06
  study
• 19:06
  or
• 19:07
  the
• 19:07
  teacher's
• 19:07
  going
• 19:07
  to
• 19:08
  get
• 19:08
  mad
• 19:08
  at
• 19:08
  me.
• 19:08
  I
• 19:09
  had
• 19:09
  very
• 19:09
  catastrophic
• 19:10
  thoughts
• 19:10
  in
• 19:11
  my
• 19:11
  brain.
• 19:12
  So
• 19:12
  learning
• 19:13
  how
• 19:13
  to
• 19:13
  reframe
• 19:14
  my
• 19:15
  thoughts
• 19:15
  so
• 19:16
  I
• 19:16
  could
• 19:16
  keep
• 19:17
  my
• 19:18
  thinking
• 19:18
  brain
• 19:18
  in
• 19:19
  charge
• 19:19
  instead
• 19:19
  of
• 19:19
  my
• 19:20
  emotional.
• 19:21
  Thank
• 19:21
  you
• 19:21
  for
• 19:21
  sharing
• 19:22
  that.
• 19:22
  Because
• 19:24
  whether
• 19:24
  you're
• 19:24
  a
• 19:25
  child
• 19:25
  or
• 19:26
  you're
• 19:26
  an
• 19:26
  adult,
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  can
• 19:27
  work
• 19:27
  for
• 19:28
  all
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  us.
• 19:29
  Absolutely.
• 19:30
  And
• 19:30
  you
• 19:30
  don't
• 19:30
  have
• 19:30
  to
• 19:30
  be
• 19:31
  full
• 19:31
  of
• 19:31
  anxiety
• 19:33
  to
• 19:33
  use
• 19:34
  your
• 19:34
  method.
• 19:35
  That's
• 19:35
  what
• 19:35
  I
• 19:35
  love
• 19:35
  about
• 19:36
  it.
• 19:36
  And
• 19:36
  that's
• 19:37
  why
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  asked
• 19:37
  you
• 19:37
  about
• 19:38
  adults
• 19:39
  coming
• 19:39
  up
• 19:39
  to
• 19:39
  you
• 19:39
  and
• 19:39
  saying,
• 19:40
  I
• 19:40
  can
• 19:40
  see
• 19:41
  myself
• 19:41
  in
• 19:41
  that
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  using
• 19:42
  your
• 19:43
  method
• 19:43
  even
• 19:44
  to
• 19:44
  this
• 19:44
  day.
• 19:45
  Absolutely.
• 19:46
  And
• 19:46
  it's
• 19:47
  simple.
• 19:47
  And
• 19:47
  I
• 19:48
  think
• 19:48
  that
• 19:48
  sometimes
• 19:49
  there's
• 19:49
  a
• 19:49
  little
• 19:49
  misunderstanding
• 19:50
  that
• 19:51
  when
• 19:51
  we
• 19:52
  do
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  strategy
• 19:53
  that
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  anxiety
• 19:53
  is
• 19:54
  going
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  go
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  hundred
• 19:55
  percent
• 19:55
  away
• 19:56
  and
• 19:57
  that's
• 19:57
  not
• 19:57
  really
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  case.
• 19:59
  What
• 19:59
  we're
• 19:59
  really
• 19:59
  trying
• 20:00
  to
• 20:00
  do
• 20:00
  is
• 20:00
  lower
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  anxiety
• 20:01
  and
• 20:02
  manage
• 20:02
  it
• 20:03
  so
• 20:03
  that
• 20:03
  you
• 20:03
  can
• 20:04
  keep
• 20:04
  moving
• 20:04
  forward,
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  can
• 20:06
  deal
• 20:06
  with
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  situation,
• 20:07
  and
• 20:07
  with
• 20:08
  more
• 20:08
  practice,
• 20:09
  it's
• 20:09
  going
• 20:09
  to
• 20:09
  get
• 20:09
  better
• 20:10
  and
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  anxiety
• 20:11
  will
• 20:11
  keep
• 20:12
  lowering.
• 20:12
  Let's
• 20:12
  say,
• 20:13
  for
• 20:13
  example,
• 20:14
  I
• 20:14
  have
• 20:14
  a
• 20:14
  fear
• 20:15
  of
• 20:15
  speaking
• 20:15
  in
• 20:16
  public,
• 20:16
  which
• 20:17
  I
• 20:17
  used
• 20:17
  to.
• 20:19
  The
• 20:19
  more
• 20:19
  I
• 20:19
  do
• 20:19
  it
• 20:20
  and
• 20:20
  the
• 20:20
  more
• 20:20
  I
• 20:21
  do
• 20:21
  my
• 20:21
  strategies,
• 20:23
  the
• 20:23
  lower
• 20:23
  my
• 20:23
  stress
• 20:24
  has
• 20:24
  become
• 20:25
  and
• 20:25
  the
• 20:25
  more.
• 20:25
  Natural
• 20:26
  it
• 20:26
  becomes
• 20:27
  for
• 20:27
  you.
• 20:28
  Yes.
• 20:30
  So
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  still
• 20:30
  feel
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  little
• 20:31
  anxious,
• 20:32
  but
• 20:32
  it's
• 20:32
  not
• 20:32
  to
• 20:32
  the
• 20:33
  point
• 20:33
  where
• 20:33
  I
• 20:33
  want
• 20:33
  to
• 20:34
  avoid
• 20:34
  it
• 20:34
  or
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  feel
• 20:35
  like
• 20:36
  there's
• 20:36
  no
• 20:36
  way
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  can
• 20:36
  do
• 20:37
  this.
• 20:37
  The
• 20:37
  way
• 20:37
  I
• 20:38
  talk
• 20:38
  to
• 20:38
  myself
• 20:38
  and
• 20:39
  the
• 20:39
  way
• 20:39
  I
• 20:40
  prepare
• 20:40
  and
• 20:41
  do
• 20:42
  that,
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  whole,
• 20:42
  like
• 20:42
  I
• 20:43
  said,
• 20:43
  breathing
• 20:44
  the
• 20:44
  acceptance
• 20:45
  and
• 20:45
  then
• 20:46
  reframe
• 20:46
  how
• 20:46
  I
• 20:47
  think
• 20:47
  about
• 20:48
  really
• 20:48
  is
• 20:48
  powerful.
• 20:50
  Thank
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  for
• 20:50
  sharing
• 20:51
  all
• 20:51
  that.
• 20:51
  I
• 20:51
  wanted
• 20:52
  to
• 20:52
  do
• 20:52
  this
• 20:53
  first
• 20:53
  because
• 20:54
  now
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  want
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  move
• 20:55
  on
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  actual
• 20:58
  book
• 20:58
  side
• 20:59
  of
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  business.
• 21:00
  For
• 21:00
  aspiring
• 21:00
  book
• 21:01
  authors,
• 21:01
  there's
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  formula
• 21:02
  and
• 21:03
  how
• 21:03
  you
• 21:03
  can
• 21:03
  actually
• 21:03
  bring
• 21:04
  your
• 21:04
  book
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  market.
• 21:05
  I
• 21:06
  noticed
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  couple
• 21:07
  of
• 21:07
  things.
• 21:07
  You
• 21:07
  do
• 21:08
  have,
• 21:09
  if
• 21:09
  I'm
• 21:09
  not
• 21:09
  mistaken,
• 21:10
  all
• 21:11
  of
• 21:11
  your
• 21:11
  book
• 21:11
  formats
• 21:12
  on
• 21:12
  Amazon.
• 21:14
  Yes.
• 21:15
  So
• 21:15
  you
• 21:15
  can
• 21:15
  get
• 21:15
  them
• 21:15
  on
• 21:16
  Amazon.
• 21:16
  My
• 21:17
  first
• 21:17
  and
• 21:18
  third
• 21:18
  book
• 21:19
  are
• 21:19
  published
• 21:20
  through
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  national
• 21:21
  center
• 21:21
  for
• 21:21
  Youth
• 21:22
  Issues.
• 21:22
  That's
• 21:23
  a
• 21:23
  publisher
• 21:24
  that
• 21:25
  focuses
• 21:25
  specifically
• 21:27
  on
• 21:27
  support
• 21:28
  for
• 21:29
  parents
• 21:29
  and
• 21:29
  teachers
• 21:29
  and
• 21:30
  counselors.
• 21:31
  I
• 21:31
  noticed
• 21:32
  with
• 21:33
  your
• 21:34
  first
• 21:34
  book,
• 21:35
  ABC
• 21:36
  Worry
• 21:36
  Free,
• 21:37
  I
• 21:37
  was
• 21:37
  able
• 21:37
  to
• 21:38
  get
• 21:38
  the
• 21:38
  Kindle
• 21:38
  version,
• 21:39
  but
• 21:40
  I
• 21:40
  noticed
• 21:40
  with
• 21:41
  you
• 21:41
  are
• 21:42
  a
• 21:42
  bird
• 21:42
  like
• 21:42
  me,
• 21:43
  you
• 21:43
  don't
• 21:43
  have
• 21:43
  the
• 21:44
  Kindle
• 21:44
  version.
• 21:45
  Is
• 21:45
  there
• 21:45
  a
• 21:45
  reason?
• 21:46
  That
• 21:46
  is
• 21:47
  correct.
• 21:47
  As
• 21:48
  I
• 21:48
  mentioned,
• 21:49
  our
• 21:49
  ABC
• 21:49
  worry
• 21:50
  free
• 21:50
  and
• 21:51
  15
• 21:51
  minute
• 21:52
  focus
• 21:52
  executive
• 21:53
  Function
• 21:53
  are
• 21:53
  both
• 21:54
  published
• 21:54
  through
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  national
• 21:55
  center
• 21:55
  for
• 21:55
  Youth
• 21:56
  Issues.
• 21:56
  Are
• 21:57
  you
• 21:57
  a
• 21:57
  bird
• 21:57
  like
• 21:57
  me?
• 21:59
  Is
• 21:59
  published
• 22:00
  book
• 22:00
  that
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  did
• 22:01
  with
• 22:01
  one
• 22:01
  of
• 22:02
  my
• 22:02
  sons,
• 22:02
  which
• 22:03
  was
• 22:03
  super
• 22:04
  fun.
• 22:04
  Unfortunately,
• 22:05
  when
• 22:06
  we
• 22:06
  went
• 22:07
  to
• 22:08
  do
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  Kindle
• 22:09
  process,
• 22:11
  there
• 22:11
  was
• 22:11
  an
• 22:12
  issue
• 22:12
  with
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  pages
• 22:14
  lining
• 22:14
  up
• 22:15
  and
• 22:15
  it
• 22:16
  just
• 22:16
  wasn't
• 22:16
  making.
• 22:17
  Formatting
• 22:17
  was
• 22:18
  not
• 22:18
  working.
• 22:19
  We
• 22:19
  absolutely
• 22:20
  adored
• 22:21
  our
• 22:21
  illustrator.
• 22:22
  We
• 22:22
  loved
• 22:23
  illustrations
• 22:23
  in
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  book
• 22:24
  and
• 22:24
  we
• 22:24
  just
• 22:25
  decided
• 22:25
  not
• 22:25
  to
• 22:25
  mess
• 22:26
  with
• 22:26
  the.
• 22:27
  The
• 22:27
  structure
• 22:27
  of
• 22:27
  everything.
• 22:28
  Unfortunately,
• 22:29
  we
• 22:30
  weren't
• 22:30
  able
• 22:30
  to
• 22:30
  get
• 22:31
  that
• 22:31
  version.
• 22:31
  Okay.
• 22:32
  Before
• 22:32
  we
• 22:33
  move
• 22:33
  on
• 22:33
  to
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  publishing
• 22:35
  side
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  it,
• 22:35
  I
• 22:35
  wanted
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  ask
• 22:36
  you
• 22:36
  one
• 22:36
  other
• 22:37
  question.
• 22:37
  Are
• 22:37
  you
• 22:37
  using
• 22:38
  ingramsparks?
• 22:40
  All
• 22:40
  of
• 22:40
  the
• 22:41
  books
• 22:41
  are
• 22:41
  available
• 22:42
  on
• 22:42
  ingramsparks.
• 22:43
  Okay.
• 22:44
  And
• 22:44
  the
• 22:45
  reason
• 22:45
  I
• 22:45
  ask
• 22:45
  that
• 22:45
  is
• 22:46
  I
• 22:46
  think
• 22:46
  most
• 22:46
  people
• 22:46
  who
• 22:47
  have
• 22:47
  listened
• 22:47
  to
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  show
• 22:48
  understand
• 22:49
  that
• 22:49
  Amazon
• 22:50
  takes
• 22:51
  care
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  Amazon.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:52
  then
• 22:52
  when
• 22:53
  you're
• 22:53
  looking
• 22:53
  for
• 22:53
  how
• 22:54
  do
• 22:54
  I
• 22:54
  distribute
• 22:54
  to
• 22:55
  other
• 22:55
  online
• 22:57
  retailers
• 22:58
  like
• 22:58
  Barnes
• 22:59
  and
• 22:59
  Noble,
• 22:59
  Apple
• 23:00
  Books,
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  so
• 23:01
  on,
• 23:01
  ingramsparks
• 23:02
  is
• 23:02
  where
• 23:03
  generally
• 23:03
  most
• 23:04
  people
• 23:04
  go.
• 23:04
  And
• 23:04
  that
• 23:05
  allows
• 23:05
  you
• 23:06
  a
• 23:06
  greater
• 23:07
  distribution
• 23:07
  reach.
• 23:08
  Yes.
• 23:09
  And
• 23:09
  from
• 23:10
  what
• 23:10
  I
• 23:10
  understand,
• 23:11
  that's
• 23:11
  where,
• 23:12
  like
• 23:12
  a
• 23:12
  lot
• 23:12
  of
• 23:12
  the
• 23:13
  bookseller,
• 23:13
  like
• 23:13
  the
• 23:14
  bookstores
• 23:14
  are
• 23:15
  going
• 23:15
  to
• 23:15
  Ingram
• 23:16
  to
• 23:16
  get
• 23:16
  the
• 23:16
  books.
• 23:17
  Using
• 23:17
  Ingram
• 23:18
  as
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  wholesaler.
• 23:19
  Yes.
• 23:20
  Okay.
• 23:21
  So
• 23:21
  yes,
• 23:21
  I
• 23:22
  do
• 23:22
  feel,
• 23:22
  like,
• 23:23
  important
• 23:23
  to
• 23:24
  get
• 23:24
  your
• 23:24
  book
• 23:24
  on
• 23:25
  Ingram.
• 23:25
  Absolutely.
• 23:26
  Terrific.
• 23:27
  I
• 23:28
  was
• 23:28
  looking
• 23:28
  at
• 23:28
  it
• 23:29
  and
• 23:29
  I
• 23:29
  always
• 23:29
  talk
• 23:30
  about
• 23:30
  it
• 23:30
  can
• 23:31
  be
• 23:31
  traditionally
• 23:32
  published,
• 23:32
  where
• 23:32
  you
• 23:33
  get
• 23:33
  a
• 23:33
  publisher,
• 23:34
  they
• 23:35
  take
• 23:35
  all
• 23:35
  the
• 23:36
  rights,
• 23:36
  they
• 23:36
  do
• 23:37
  all
• 23:37
  the
• 23:37
  work,
• 23:37
  and
• 23:38
  at
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  end
• 23:38
  of
• 23:38
  the
• 23:39
  day,
• 23:39
  you
• 23:39
  might
• 23:40
  have
• 23:40
  some
• 23:40
  fun,
• 23:40
  but
• 23:41
  you're
• 23:41
  getting
• 23:42
  pennies
• 23:42
  on
• 23:42
  the
• 23:43
  dollar
• 23:43
  for
• 23:44
  your
• 23:44
  efforts.
• 23:45
  And
• 23:46
  then
• 23:46
  you
• 23:46
  can
• 23:46
  go
• 23:46
  self
• 23:47
  publish,
• 23:47
  which
• 23:47
  is
• 23:48
  like
• 23:48
  a
• 23:48
  hybrid
• 23:48
  publishing.
• 23:50
  And
• 23:50
  then
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  last
• 23:50
  one
• 23:51
  is
• 23:51
  where
• 23:52
  you
• 23:52
  can
• 23:52
  go
• 23:52
  independently
• 23:53
  publish,
• 23:54
  where
• 23:54
  you
• 23:54
  set
• 23:54
  up
• 23:54
  your
• 23:54
  own
• 23:55
  publishing
• 23:56
  company,
• 23:56
  you
• 23:56
  do
• 23:56
  all
• 23:56
  the
• 23:57
  work,
• 23:57
  and
• 23:58
  you
• 23:59
  control
• 23:59
  the
• 24:00
  whole
• 24:00
  process.
• 24:01
  So
• 24:01
  I
• 24:01
  noticed
• 24:02
  you
• 24:02
  had
• 24:03
  Pear
• 24:04
  tree
• 24:04
  Publishing.
• 24:05
  Yes.
• 24:06
  So
• 24:06
  is
• 24:06
  that
• 24:07
  a
• 24:07
  hybrid
• 24:07
  or
• 24:08
  is
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  your
• 24:09
  own
• 24:09
  independent
• 24:10
  hybrid?
• 24:11
  Oh,
• 24:11
  it's
• 24:11
  a
• 24:12
  hybrid.
• 24:12
  Okay.
• 24:12
  Yeah.
• 24:13
  So
• 24:13
  when
• 24:13
  you
• 24:14
  got.
• 24:14
  When
• 24:14
  you
• 24:14
  said
• 24:14
  you
• 24:14
  got
• 24:15
  your
• 24:15
  son
• 24:15
  involved,
• 24:17
  in
• 24:17
  what
• 24:18
  way
• 24:18
  was
• 24:18
  he
• 24:18
  involved
• 24:19
  in
• 24:19
  the
• 24:19
  second
• 24:20
  book?
• 24:20
  Oh,
• 24:21
  he
• 24:22
  was
• 24:22
  incredibly
• 24:23
  helpful
• 24:23
  in
• 24:24
  the
• 24:25
  writing.
• 24:26
  So
• 24:26
  I
• 24:27
  came
• 24:27
  up
• 24:27
  with
• 24:27
  the
• 24:27
  concept
• 24:28
  of
• 24:28
  that
• 24:28
  book.
• 24:29
  And
• 24:29
  that
• 24:29
  book
• 24:29
  is
• 24:30
  another
• 24:30
  book
• 24:30
  about
• 24:31
  facing
• 24:31
  your
• 24:32
  fears.
• 24:32
  But
• 24:32
  it's
• 24:33
  done
• 24:33
  in
• 24:33
  a
• 24:34
  very,
• 24:35
  let's
• 24:36
  say,
• 24:37
  implicit
• 24:39
  fun,
• 24:40
  very
• 24:41
  sweet
• 24:41
  way
• 24:42
  where
• 24:42
  ABC
• 24:43
  Worry
• 24:43
  free
• 24:43
  is
• 24:44
  a
• 24:44
  teaching
• 24:44
  tool.
• 24:45
  Okay.
• 24:45
  It's
• 24:46
  still
• 24:46
  a
• 24:46
  relatable
• 24:47
  book.
• 24:47
  It's
• 24:47
  told
• 24:47
  in
• 24:48
  narrative
• 24:48
  form,
• 24:49
  but
• 24:49
  it's
• 24:50
  very
• 24:50
  explicit.
• 24:51
  You
• 24:51
  have
• 24:52
  a
• 24:52
  three
• 24:52
  step,
• 24:53
  let's
• 24:53
  call
• 24:53
  it
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  trick
• 24:54
  because
• 24:54
  the
• 24:54
  main
• 24:55
  character,
• 24:55
  Max,
• 24:56
  calls
• 24:56
  it
• 24:56
  a
• 24:56
  trick.
• 24:57
  We
• 24:57
  use
• 24:57
  that
• 24:57
  word
• 24:58
  because
• 24:59
  strategy
• 25:00
  doesn't
• 25:00
  sound
• 25:00
  as
• 25:00
  fun
• 25:01
  as
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  trick.
• 25:02
  Right?
• 25:03
  Yes,
• 25:03
  that
• 25:04
  was
• 25:04
  intentional.
• 25:05
  But
• 25:06
  that
• 25:06
  book,
• 25:06
  just
• 25:07
  to
• 25:07
  clarify,
• 25:07
  is
• 25:07
  a
• 25:08
  teaching
• 25:08
  tool.
• 25:09
  Are
• 25:09
  you
• 25:09
  a
• 25:09
  bird
• 25:10
  like
• 25:10
  me?
• 25:10
  Is
• 25:11
  more
• 25:11
  about
• 25:12
  just
• 25:12
  this,
• 25:12
  really,
• 25:13
  I
• 25:14
  think
• 25:14
  a
• 25:14
  beautiful
• 25:14
  story
• 25:15
  about
• 25:15
  friendship
• 25:16
  and
• 25:16
  perseverance,
• 25:17
  facing
• 25:18
  fears
• 25:19
  and
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  beautiful
• 25:20
  things
• 25:20
  that
• 25:20
  can
• 25:20
  happen
• 25:21
  when
• 25:22
  we
• 25:22
  come
• 25:22
  together
• 25:22
  and
• 25:22
  work
• 25:23
  together.
• 25:23
  Okay.
• 25:24
  And
• 25:24
  that
• 25:25
  is
• 25:25
  not
• 25:25
  like
• 25:26
  a
• 25:26
  structured
• 25:27
  ABC
• 25:28
  Worry
• 25:28
  free
• 25:29
  strategy
• 25:29
  kind
• 25:30
  of
• 25:30
  approach
• 25:30
  to
• 25:30
  the
• 25:31
  story.
• 25:31
  Love
• 25:31
  it
• 25:31
  that
• 25:32
  you've
• 25:32
  taken
• 25:32
  two
• 25:32
  different
• 25:34
  publishing
• 25:34
  approaches.
• 25:35
  You
• 25:36
  can
• 25:36
  answer
• 25:36
  this
• 25:37
  question
• 25:38
  in
• 25:38
  two
• 25:38
  ways.
• 25:39
  That's
• 25:39
  address
• 25:40
  it
• 25:40
  from
• 25:42
  both
• 25:42
  sides
• 25:43
  of
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  different
• 25:44
  publishing
• 25:45
  function.
• 25:46
  So
• 25:46
  when
• 25:47
  it
• 25:47
  came
• 25:47
  to
• 25:47
  publishing
• 25:48
  your
• 25:48
  children's
• 25:49
  book
• 25:49
  or
• 25:49
  your
• 25:50
  books,
• 25:50
  what
• 25:50
  was
• 25:51
  your
• 25:51
  biggest
• 25:52
  challenge
• 25:52
  or
• 25:53
  frustration?
• 25:53
  How
• 25:54
  you
• 25:54
  published
• 25:55
  the
• 25:55
  two
• 25:55
  books
• 25:55
  one
• 25:56
  way
• 25:56
  and
• 25:56
  the
• 25:57
  other
• 25:57
  book
• 25:58
  the
• 25:58
  other
• 25:59
  way.
• 25:59
  So
• 25:59
  what
• 25:59
  was
• 25:59
  the
• 26:00
  biggest
• 26:00
  challenger
• 26:01
  Frustration?
• 26:02
  Great
• 26:02
  question.
• 26:03
  First,
• 26:04
  I
• 26:04
  do
• 26:04
  have
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  give
• 26:05
  my
• 26:05
  son
• 26:05
  kudos
• 26:06
  because
• 26:06
  he
• 26:07
  was
• 26:07
  super
• 26:07
  helpful
• 26:08
  in
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  writing
• 26:10
  of
• 26:10
  Are
• 26:10
  you
• 26:10
  a
• 26:10
  bird
• 26:11
  like
• 26:11
  me?
• 26:11
  I
• 26:12
  came
• 26:12
  up
• 26:12
  with
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  concept
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  did
• 26:13
  a
• 26:13
  rough
• 26:14
  draft
• 26:14
  and
• 26:14
  then
• 26:15
  he
• 26:15
  is
• 26:15
  like
• 26:16
  a
• 26:16
  master
• 26:17
  editor
• 26:18
  and
• 26:18
  master
• 26:19
  reviser.
• 26:20
  And
• 26:20
  we
• 26:20
  went
• 26:21
  back
• 26:21
  and
• 26:21
  forth.
• 26:21
  Actually,
• 26:22
  it
• 26:22
  was
• 26:22
  during
• 26:22
  COVID
• 26:22
  we
• 26:23
  wrote
• 26:23
  that
• 26:23
  book.
• 26:23
  We
• 26:24
  went
• 26:24
  back
• 26:24
  and
• 26:24
  forth
• 26:25
  on
• 26:25
  zoom
• 26:26
  calls.
• 26:26
  And
• 26:27
  he
• 26:27
  was
• 26:27
  living
• 26:27
  in
• 26:27
  Canada
• 26:28
  at
• 26:28
  the
• 26:28
  time
• 26:29
  and
• 26:29
  did
• 26:29
  a
• 26:29
  lot
• 26:30
  of
• 26:30
  revising
• 26:31
  together.
• 26:31
  And
• 26:32
  he
• 26:32
  has
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  really
• 26:33
  fond
• 26:33
  sense
• 26:33
  of
• 26:33
  humor
• 26:34
  and
• 26:34
  his
• 26:35
  sense
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  humor
• 26:36
  came
• 26:36
  through
• 26:37
  in
• 26:37
  that
• 26:37
  story.
• 26:37
  So
• 26:38
  that
• 26:38
  was
• 26:38
  super
• 26:39
  fun.
• 26:39
  I
• 26:40
  love
• 26:40
  that
• 26:40
  because
• 26:41
  I
• 26:41
  have
• 26:41
  five
• 26:41
  grandchildren.
• 26:43
  And
• 26:44
  our
• 26:44
  book
• 26:44
  series
• 26:45
  is
• 26:45
  called
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  Adventures
• 26:46
  of
• 26:46
  Caboose
• 26:46
  the
• 26:47
  Rocky
• 26:47
  Mountain
• 26:47
  Bear.
• 26:48
  And
• 26:49
  I
• 26:49
  co
• 26:50
  authored
• 26:50
  this
• 26:50
  with
• 26:51
  my
• 26:51
  oldest
• 26:51
  granddaughter
• 26:53
  and
• 26:53
  then
• 26:53
  we
• 26:53
  went
• 26:53
  on
• 26:54
  to
• 26:55
  call
• 26:55
  it
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  Adventures
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  Caboose.
• 26:57
  What
• 26:57
  we
• 26:57
  did
• 26:57
  is
• 26:58
  I
• 26:58
  launched
• 26:58
  our
• 26:58
  second
• 26:59
  book,
• 26:59
  which
• 26:59
  is
• 27:00
  called
• 27:00
  Hijinks
• 27:01
  from
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  Big
• 27:01
  Head
• 27:01
  Folk
• 27:02
  Music
• 27:02
  Festival.
• 27:03
  And
• 27:03
  you'll
• 27:04
  notice
• 27:04
  I
• 27:04
  co
• 27:04
  authored
• 27:05
  it
• 27:05
  with
• 27:05
  my
• 27:06
  oldest
• 27:07
  granddaughter
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  my
• 27:08
  middle
• 27:08
  granddaughter.
• 27:10
  That
• 27:10
  is
• 27:10
  so
• 27:10
  special.
• 27:11
  It
• 27:12
  is.
• 27:12
  It's
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  lot
• 27:12
  of
• 27:12
  fun.
• 27:13
  And
• 27:13
  with
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  five
• 27:14
  of
• 27:14
  them,
• 27:15
  we've
• 27:15
  gone
• 27:15
  on
• 27:16
  to
• 27:16
  write
• 27:17
  38
• 27:17
  different
• 27:18
  stories
• 27:18
  in
• 27:18
  the
• 27:18
  book
• 27:19
  series.
• 27:20
  The
• 27:20
  cost
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  bringing
• 27:20
  them
• 27:21
  to
• 27:21
  market
• 27:22
  is
• 27:22
  expensive,
• 27:23
  so
• 27:23
  it'll
• 27:23
  be
• 27:23
  a
• 27:24
  slow
• 27:24
  rollout
• 27:25
  unless
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  hit
• 27:25
  the
• 27:26
  super
• 27:26
  max
• 27:27
  lottery
• 27:28
  or
• 27:28
  something.
• 27:28
  I
• 27:29
  love
• 27:29
  it
• 27:29
  when
• 27:29
  I
• 27:29
  hear
• 27:31
  that
• 27:31
  you
• 27:31
  got
• 27:31
  to
• 27:31
  share
• 27:32
  with
• 27:33
  your
• 27:33
  Son.
• 27:34
  But
• 27:34
  he
• 27:34
  was
• 27:35
  an
• 27:35
  adult
• 27:35
  at
• 27:35
  the
• 27:36
  time,
• 27:36
  correct?
• 27:37
  Yes.
• 27:37
  Oh,
• 27:37
  yes.
• 27:40
  He's
• 27:40
  a
• 27:40
  dad
• 27:41
  himself.
• 27:41
  There
• 27:42
  was
• 27:42
  some
• 27:42
  meaning
• 27:42
  in
• 27:43
  it
• 27:43
  as
• 27:43
  he
• 27:43
  co
• 27:43
  authored
• 27:44
  it
• 27:44
  with
• 27:44
  you.
• 27:45
  Yes.
• 27:45
  And
• 27:46
  he
• 27:46
  has
• 27:46
  a
• 27:47
  daughter
• 27:47
  and
• 27:47
  so
• 27:47
  he
• 27:48
  loves
• 27:48
  reading
• 27:48
  to
• 27:48
  her
• 27:49
  and
• 27:49
  she
• 27:49
  loves
• 27:49
  books.
• 27:50
  I
• 27:50
  know
• 27:50
  there
• 27:50
  was
• 27:51
  some
• 27:51
  testing
• 27:52
  it
• 27:52
  out,
• 27:52
  I
• 27:53
  think,
• 27:53
  on
• 27:53
  her
• 27:53
  and
• 27:54
  just
• 27:54
  thinking
• 27:54
  about
• 27:55
  books
• 27:55
  that
• 27:55
  he
• 27:55
  loved
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  read
• 27:56
  with
• 27:56
  her
• 27:56
  and
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  thought
• 27:58
  about
• 27:58
  books.
• 27:58
  I
• 27:59
  love
• 27:59
  that.
• 27:59
  And
• 28:00
  now
• 28:00
  you
• 28:00
  got
• 28:00
  a
• 28:00
  girl.
• 28:02
  Yes,
• 28:04
  we
• 28:04
  actually
• 28:05
  have
• 28:05
  three
• 28:05
  girls.
• 28:07
  Different
• 28:08
  experience.
• 28:08
  Absolutely.
• 28:09
  Back
• 28:10
  to
• 28:10
  your
• 28:10
  question
• 28:11
  about
• 28:11
  the
• 28:12
  challenges.
• 28:13
  So
• 28:15
  when
• 28:15
  I
• 28:15
  think
• 28:15
  about
• 28:17
  the
• 28:17
  challenges
• 28:18
  with
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  traditional
• 28:19
  publisher,
• 28:20
  they
• 28:20
  honestly,
• 28:21
  I
• 28:21
  had
• 28:22
  a
• 28:22
  great
• 28:22
  experience,
• 28:23
  if
• 28:23
  I'm
• 28:24
  being
• 28:24
  completely
• 28:24
  honest.
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  don't
• 28:26
  know
• 28:26
  if
• 28:26
  you
• 28:26
  can
• 28:26
  relate
• 28:26
  to
• 28:27
  this.
• 28:28
  When
• 28:28
  I
• 28:29
  sent
• 28:29
  out
• 28:29
  ABC
• 28:29
  Worry
• 28:30
  Free
• 28:30
  to
• 28:31
  various
• 28:31
  publishers,
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  got
• 28:33
  rejection
• 28:34
  letters.
• 28:34
  And
• 28:35
  the
• 28:36
  first
• 28:36
  one
• 28:36
  that
• 28:36
  said
• 28:36
  yes
• 28:37
  was
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  national
• 28:38
  center
• 28:39
  for
• 28:39
  Youth
• 28:39
  Issues.
• 28:39
  So
• 28:40
  of
• 28:40
  course
• 28:40
  I
• 28:40
  was
• 28:40
  thrilled
• 28:41
  and
• 28:42
  I
• 28:43
  thought
• 28:43
  that
• 28:43
  their
• 28:44
  terms
• 28:44
  were
• 28:45
  very
• 28:45
  fair,
• 28:46
  especially
• 28:46
  me
• 28:47
  being
• 28:47
  a
• 28:47
  first
• 28:47
  author.
• 28:49
  And
• 28:49
  they
• 28:49
  were
• 28:49
  delightful
• 28:50
  to
• 28:50
  work
• 28:50
  with
• 28:51
  when
• 28:51
  it
• 28:51
  came
• 28:52
  to
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  editing.
• 28:53
  Honestly,
• 28:54
  by
• 28:54
  the
• 28:54
  time
• 28:54
  I
• 28:54
  got
• 28:55
  it
• 28:55
  to
• 28:55
  them,
• 28:55
  it
• 28:55
  was
• 28:56
  in
• 28:56
  pretty
• 28:56
  good
• 28:57
  shape
• 28:58
  and
• 28:58
  the
• 28:58
  editing
• 28:59
  process
• 28:59
  went
• 29:00
  very
• 29:00
  quickly.
• 29:01
  They
• 29:02
  gave
• 29:02
  me
• 29:02
  the
• 29:02
  choice
• 29:03
  of
• 29:03
  different
• 29:03
  illustrators,
• 29:05
  so
• 29:05
  I
• 29:06
  was
• 29:06
  involved
• 29:07
  with
• 29:07
  that.
• 29:07
  I
• 29:08
  felt
• 29:08
  really
• 29:08
  happy
• 29:09
  that
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  got
• 29:09
  to
• 29:10
  choose
• 29:10
  from
• 29:11
  those
• 29:11
  choices.
• 29:12
  They
• 29:12
  gave
• 29:12
  me
• 29:12
  that
• 29:12
  they
• 29:13
  didn't
• 29:13
  just
• 29:13
  say,
• 29:13
  here's
• 29:13
  who
• 29:13
  we're
• 29:14
  going
• 29:14
  with.
• 29:14
  So
• 29:15
  we.
• 29:15
  It
• 29:15
  was
• 29:15
  a
• 29:15
  real
• 29:16
  collaboration.
• 29:17
  I,
• 29:17
  I
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  business
• 29:18
  standpoint,
• 29:19
  though,
• 29:19
  I'm
• 29:19
  curious
• 29:20
  because
• 29:21
  from
• 29:21
  a
• 29:22
  royalty
• 29:22
  aspect,
• 29:23
  you
• 29:23
  probably
• 29:24
  have
• 29:24
  this
• 29:25
  contract
• 29:26
  with
• 29:26
  them,
• 29:28
  but
• 29:28
  from
• 29:28
  a
• 29:29
  usage
• 29:29
  where
• 29:30
  you
• 29:30
  use
• 29:30
  them
• 29:30
  in
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  books
• 29:31
  and
• 29:32
  the
• 29:32
  content,
• 29:33
  does
• 29:33
  the
• 29:34
  content
• 29:34
  still
• 29:34
  belong
• 29:35
  to
• 29:35
  you
• 29:36
  or
• 29:36
  do
• 29:36
  you
• 29:36
  have
• 29:37
  to
• 29:37
  pay,
• 29:38
  do
• 29:38
  you
• 29:38
  have
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  pay
• 29:38
  a
• 29:39
  royalty
• 29:39
  when
• 29:39
  you
• 29:39
  do
• 29:40
  your
• 29:40
  workshops
• 29:41
  on
• 29:41
  any
• 29:42
  of
• 29:42
  that?
• 29:42
  Okay.
• 29:43
  No.
• 29:43
  So
• 29:43
  you
• 29:44
  got
• 29:44
  to
• 29:44
  keep
• 29:44
  all
• 29:44
  the
• 29:45
  content
• 29:46
  belongs
• 29:47
  to
• 29:47
  you.
• 29:48
  The
• 29:48
  content
• 29:48
  belongs
• 29:49
  to
• 29:49
  me.
• 29:49
  And
• 29:49
  so
• 29:50
  when
• 29:50
  you
• 29:50
  sell
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  books,
• 29:51
  they,
• 29:51
  you
• 29:52
  get
• 29:52
  part
• 29:52
  of
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  royalty
• 29:55
  for
• 29:55
  those
• 29:56
  books.
• 29:56
  If
• 29:57
  the
• 29:57
  book
• 29:57
  is
• 29:57
  sold
• 29:57
  through
• 29:58
  Amazon
• 29:59
  or
• 30:00
  the
• 30:00
  national
• 30:00
  center
• 30:01
  for
• 30:01
  Youth
• 30:01
  Issues
• 30:01
  or
• 30:02
  Walmart
• 30:02
  or
• 30:02
  Target,
• 30:03
  Barnes
• 30:03
  and
• 30:03
  Noble,
• 30:04
  any
• 30:05
  of
• 30:05
  those
• 30:05
  places,
• 30:06
  I
• 30:07
  get
• 30:07
  a
• 30:07
  royalty.
• 30:09
  I
• 30:09
  can
• 30:10
  also
• 30:11
  order
• 30:11
  books
• 30:11
  through
• 30:12
  the
• 30:12
  national
• 30:12
  center
• 30:13
  for
• 30:13
  Youth
• 30:13
  Issues
• 30:14
  at
• 30:15
  a
• 30:16
  think
• 30:17
  I
• 30:17
  got
• 30:17
  this
• 30:17
  right.
• 30:17
  I
• 30:17
  think
• 30:18
  it's
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  60%
• 30:19
  discount
• 30:20
  of
• 30:20
  the
• 30:21
  retail
• 30:21
  price.
• 30:22
  And
• 30:22
  then
• 30:23
  I
• 30:24
  can
• 30:24
  take
• 30:24
  the
• 30:25
  books,
• 30:25
  I
• 30:25
  can
• 30:25
  buy
• 30:25
  them
• 30:26
  at
• 30:26
  that
• 30:26
  discount,
• 30:27
  then
• 30:27
  I
• 30:28
  can
• 30:28
  bring
• 30:28
  them
• 30:28
  into
• 30:28
  my
• 30:29
  workshops
• 30:30
  and
• 30:30
  I
• 30:30
  can
• 30:31
  build
• 30:31
  that
• 30:31
  price.
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  can
• 30:33
  charge,
• 30:33
  I
• 30:33
  can
• 30:34
  charge
• 30:34
  whatever
• 30:34
  I
• 30:34
  want.
• 30:34
  I'm
• 30:35
  obviously
• 30:35
  not
• 30:35
  going
• 30:36
  to
• 30:36
  charge
• 30:36
  more
• 30:37
  than
• 30:37
  what
• 30:38
  they're
• 30:38
  retailing
• 30:38
  for.
• 30:39
  And
• 30:39
  I
• 30:40
  usually,
• 30:40
  in
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  workshop,
• 30:41
  give
• 30:41
  them
• 30:42
  a
• 30:42
  break
• 30:42
  with
• 30:43
  the
• 30:43
  price.
• 30:44
  Okay.
• 30:44
  But
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  get
• 30:45
  I
• 30:45
  can
• 30:46
  make
• 30:46
  more
• 30:46
  money
• 30:47
  for
• 30:47
  my.
• 30:48
  Just
• 30:48
  as
• 30:48
  far
• 30:48
  as
• 30:49
  how
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  percentages
• 30:50
  go
• 30:52
  if
• 30:52
  I
• 30:52
  just
• 30:52
  sell
• 30:53
  it
• 30:53
  myself.
• 30:53
  Yeah.
• 30:54
  So
• 30:54
  there's
• 30:55
  directly.
• 30:56
  Yeah.
• 30:57
  So
• 30:57
  if
• 30:57
  there's
• 30:58
  always
• 30:58
  a
• 30:58
  trade
• 30:58
  off
• 30:59
  you
• 30:59
  need.
• 31:00
  I
• 31:00
  hate
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  say
• 31:01
  this
• 31:01
  but
• 31:02
  there
• 31:02
  is
• 31:03
  a
• 31:03
  part
• 31:03
  of
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  Amazon
• 31:04
  process
• 31:04
  that's
• 31:04
  helpful
• 31:05
  because
• 31:05
  if
• 31:05
  you
• 31:05
  have
• 31:06
  several
• 31:07
  reviews
• 31:07
  and
• 31:08
  it's
• 31:08
  picking
• 31:08
  up
• 31:09
  that
• 31:09
  the
• 31:09
  books
• 31:09
  are
• 31:10
  selling
• 31:11
  that
• 31:11
  can
• 31:11
  be
• 31:11
  used
• 31:11
  to
• 31:12
  your
• 31:12
  advantage.
• 31:12
  You
• 31:13
  have
• 31:13
  to
• 31:13
  sell
• 31:13
  a
• 31:13
  lot
• 31:13
  of
• 31:14
  books
• 31:14
  for
• 31:14
  Amazon
• 31:15
  to
• 31:15
  really
• 31:16
  from
• 31:16
  my.
• 31:16
  Experience,
• 31:17
  I
• 31:18
  talked
• 31:18
  to
• 31:18
  a
• 31:19
  guest
• 31:19
  on
• 31:19
  episode
• 31:20
  48,
• 31:21
  Laurie
• 31:21
  Orolinsky
• 31:23
  and
• 31:23
  Lori
• 31:23
  had
• 31:24
  mentioned
• 31:24
  to
• 31:24
  me
• 31:24
  she
• 31:24
  actually
• 31:25
  works
• 31:25
  for
• 31:25
  Yorkshire
• 31:26
  Publishing
• 31:27
  and
• 31:27
  she's
• 31:28
  also
• 31:28
  a
• 31:28
  children's
• 31:29
  book
• 31:29
  author.
• 31:29
  She
• 31:29
  has
• 31:30
  five
• 31:30
  or
• 31:30
  six
• 31:30
  children's
• 31:31
  books.
• 31:32
  And
• 31:33
  I
• 31:33
  asked
• 31:33
  her
• 31:34
  when
• 31:35
  did
• 31:35
  she
• 31:35
  start
• 31:35
  noticing
• 31:36
  she
• 31:36
  was
• 31:36
  getting
• 31:37
  traction
• 31:38
  through
• 31:38
  Amazon
• 31:39
  and
• 31:39
  she
• 31:39
  said
• 31:40
  when
• 31:40
  she
• 31:40
  hit
• 31:40
  about
• 31:41
  the
• 31:41
  55
• 31:42
  star
• 31:43
  review
• 31:44
  mark
• 31:45
  that's
• 31:45
  when
• 31:45
  she
• 31:45
  noticed
• 31:46
  that
• 31:47
  to
• 31:47
  what
• 31:47
  you
• 31:47
  were
• 31:48
  mentioning
• 31:48
  Noel
• 31:49
  is
• 31:49
  that's
• 31:49
  when
• 31:49
  she
• 31:50
  noticed
• 31:50
  she
• 31:50
  was
• 31:50
  finally
• 31:51
  getting
• 31:51
  some
• 31:52
  traction
• 31:52
  from
• 31:53
  all
• 31:53
  that
• 31:53
  work
• 31:54
  to
• 31:54
  get
• 31:54
  to
• 31:54
  those
• 31:55
  50
• 31:55
  five
• 31:55
  star
• 31:55
  reviews.
• 31:56
  They
• 31:56
  say
• 31:56
  to
• 31:57
  try
• 31:57
  to
• 31:57
  shoot
• 31:57
  for
• 31:58
  a
• 31:58
  hundred
• 31:59
  reviews
• 31:59
  and
• 32:00
  yeah
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  algorithm
• 32:01
  is
• 32:01
  set
• 32:01
  up
• 32:02
  to
• 32:02
  notice
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  more
• 32:03
  activity
• 32:04
  that
• 32:04
  you're
• 32:05
  getting
• 32:05
  there's
• 32:06
  kind
• 32:06
  of
• 32:06
  trade
• 32:06
  offs.
• 32:07
  I
• 32:07
  don't
• 32:08
  make
• 32:08
  as
• 32:09
  much
• 32:09
  money
• 32:09
  obviously
• 32:10
  from
• 32:11
  the
• 32:12
  Amazon
• 32:12
  sales
• 32:13
  because
• 32:15
  to
• 32:15
  sell
• 32:15
  to
• 32:16
  Amazon
• 32:16
  they
• 32:16
  get
• 32:17
  em
• 32:17
  at
• 32:17
  a
• 32:17
  discount
• 32:17
  anyway.
• 32:18
  So
• 32:19
  you're
• 32:19
  making
• 32:19
  your
• 32:19
  royalty
• 32:20
  off
• 32:20
  the
• 32:20
  discounted
• 32:21
  price,
• 32:22
  not
• 32:22
  the
• 32:22
  retail
• 32:23
  price.
• 32:23
  Correct.
• 32:24
  There's
• 32:24
  that
• 32:25
  piece
• 32:26
  obviously
• 32:26
  you
• 32:26
  can
• 32:26
  buy
• 32:27
  books
• 32:27
  off
• 32:27
  my
• 32:28
  website
• 32:28
  which
• 32:28
  I
• 32:28
  just
• 32:29
  would.
• 32:29
  Those
• 32:29
  are
• 32:29
  the
• 32:30
  ones
• 32:30
  that
• 32:30
  I've
• 32:30
  ordered
• 32:31
  from
• 32:31
  the
• 32:31
  publisher
• 32:32
  at
• 32:32
  the
• 32:32
  discount
• 32:33
  and
• 32:33
  then
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  just
• 32:33
  sell
• 32:34
  on
• 32:34
  my
• 32:34
  own.
• 32:35
  Right.
• 32:35
  But
• 32:36
  now
• 32:36
  who's
• 32:36
  paying
• 32:36
  for
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  shipping?
• 32:38
  I
• 32:39
  will
• 32:39
  add
• 32:39
  that
• 32:40
  on
• 32:40
  to
• 32:40
  the
• 32:40
  cost.
• 32:41
  Okay.
• 32:42
  Okay.
• 32:42
  Yeah.
• 32:42
  And
• 32:43
  the
• 32:43
  reason
• 32:43
  I
• 32:43
  bring
• 32:43
  that
• 32:44
  up
• 32:44
  is
• 32:44
  so
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  everybody
• 32:45
  understands
• 32:46
  that
• 32:47
  there
• 32:47
  is
• 32:47
  a
• 32:48
  cost
• 32:48
  to
• 32:49
  ship.
• 32:49
  And
• 32:50
  even
• 32:50
  though
• 32:50
  I
• 32:51
  think
• 32:51
  there's
• 32:51
  a
• 32:51
  special
• 32:52
  book
• 32:52
  pricing
• 32:53
  get
• 32:53
  through
• 32:53
  the
• 32:53
  US
• 32:54
  mail
• 32:54
  it's
• 32:55
  still.
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  think
• 32:56
  it's
• 32:56
  around
• 32:57
  $5
• 32:57
  a
• 32:58
  book.
• 32:58
  Yes,
• 32:59
  you're
• 32:59
  correct.
• 33:00
  It's
• 33:00
  about
• 33:00
  $5.
• 33:01
  And
• 33:02
  I
• 33:02
  think
• 33:02
  if
• 33:02
  my
• 33:03
  math
• 33:04
  is
• 33:04
  correct
• 33:05
  when
• 33:05
  I
• 33:06
  ship
• 33:06
  books
• 33:06
  I
• 33:07
  think
• 33:07
  I
• 33:07
  can
• 33:08
  ship.
• 33:08
  My
• 33:08
  books
• 33:08
  aren't
• 33:09
  super
• 33:09
  heavy.
• 33:09
  Mine
• 33:10
  I
• 33:10
  have.
• 33:10
  Are
• 33:11
  you
• 33:11
  A
• 33:11
  bird
• 33:11
  like
• 33:11
  me
• 33:11
  is
• 33:12
  in
• 33:12
  paperback
• 33:13
  and
• 33:13
  hardcover
• 33:14
  but
• 33:14
  typically
• 33:15
  the
• 33:15
  paperback
• 33:15
  sells
• 33:16
  more
• 33:16
  frequently.
• 33:17
  So
• 33:17
  my
• 33:17
  books
• 33:17
  are
• 33:17
  not
• 33:18
  super
• 33:18
  heavy.
• 33:19
  I
• 33:19
  think
• 33:19
  I
• 33:19
  can
• 33:20
  mail
• 33:21
  three
• 33:21
  books
• 33:22
  for
• 33:22
  $5.
• 33:22
  Yeah
• 33:23
  but
• 33:23
  one
• 33:24
  book
• 33:24
  would
• 33:24
  be
• 33:24
  $5
• 33:25
  and
• 33:26
  then
• 33:26
  once
• 33:26
  I
• 33:26
  get
• 33:26
  up
• 33:26
  to
• 33:27
  like
• 33:27
  around
• 33:27
  five
• 33:27
  books
• 33:28
  or
• 33:28
  more
• 33:28
  it
• 33:28
  goes
• 33:29
  up
• 33:29
  to
• 33:29
  $7
• 33:30
  or
• 33:30
  something
• 33:30
  like
• 33:30
  that.
• 33:31
  To
• 33:31
  your
• 33:31
  point
• 33:32
  Noel
• 33:32
  and
• 33:32
  I'm
• 33:32
  finding
• 33:33
  this
• 33:33
  all
• 33:33
  the
• 33:33
  time,
• 33:34
  and
• 33:34
  I
• 33:34
  mention
• 33:34
  this
• 33:35
  to
• 33:35
  people
• 33:35
  to
• 33:35
  understand
• 33:36
  that
• 33:36
  your
• 33:37
  author
• 33:37
  visits
• 33:38
  can
• 33:38
  be
• 33:38
  very
• 33:39
  fruitful
• 33:40
  for
• 33:40
  you
• 33:40
  as
• 33:40
  an
• 33:41
  author,
• 33:41
  if
• 33:42
  you
• 33:42
  sell
• 33:42
  your
• 33:43
  books.
• 33:43
  Because
• 33:44
  to
• 33:44
  Noelle's
• 33:45
  point,
• 33:45
  you're
• 33:46
  getting
• 33:46
  either
• 33:47
  a
• 33:47
  discount,
• 33:48
  like
• 33:48
  you
• 33:48
  are
• 33:48
  through
• 33:49
  your
• 33:49
  publisher,
• 33:49
  you're
• 33:50
  getting
• 33:50
  an
• 33:50
  author's
• 33:51
  copy
• 33:51
  price,
• 33:52
  or
• 33:52
  if
• 33:53
  you
• 33:53
  go
• 33:53
  through
• 33:54
  Amazon,
• 33:54
  if
• 33:55
  you
• 33:55
  actually
• 33:55
  print
• 33:56
  and
• 33:56
  publish
• 33:57
  through
• 33:57
  Amazon,
• 33:58
  they
• 33:58
  give
• 33:58
  you
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  very
• 33:59
  good
• 33:59
  price,
• 34:00
  an
• 34:00
  author's
• 34:01
  copy
• 34:01
  price.
• 34:01
  If
• 34:02
  you
• 34:02
  do
• 34:02
  a
• 34:02
  live
• 34:02
  event,
• 34:03
  you
• 34:03
  can
• 34:04
  make
• 34:04
  a
• 34:04
  pretty
• 34:04
  good
• 34:05
  margin
• 34:05
  for
• 34:05
  yourself
• 34:06
  by
• 34:07
  doing
• 34:07
  that.
• 34:07
  That's
• 34:08
  correct.
• 34:08
  And
• 34:09
  what
• 34:09
  I
• 34:09
  typically
• 34:10
  do,
• 34:10
  and
• 34:10
  schools
• 34:11
  have
• 34:11
  been
• 34:11
  great
• 34:11
  about
• 34:12
  this,
• 34:13
  is
• 34:13
  I
• 34:13
  ask
• 34:14
  if
• 34:14
  I
• 34:14
  can
• 34:14
  send
• 34:15
  a
• 34:15
  letter
• 34:15
  home
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  parents
• 34:17
  and
• 34:18
  introduce
• 34:18
  myself,
• 34:18
  because
• 34:19
  I
• 34:19
  think
• 34:19
  that
• 34:19
  it's
• 34:19
  just
• 34:20
  a
• 34:20
  common
• 34:20
  courtesy
• 34:21
  to
• 34:21
  let
• 34:21
  them
• 34:21
  know
• 34:21
  this
• 34:21
  author's
• 34:22
  coming
• 34:22
  in,
• 34:23
  who's
• 34:23
  coming
• 34:23
  into
• 34:23
  the
• 34:24
  building
• 34:24
  and
• 34:24
  what's
• 34:24
  her
• 34:25
  background.
• 34:26
  So
• 34:26
  I
• 34:26
  write
• 34:26
  a
• 34:27
  little
• 34:27
  letter
• 34:28
  and
• 34:28
  I
• 34:29
  do
• 34:29
  all
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  writing
• 34:29
  so
• 34:30
  that
• 34:30
  the
• 34:30
  principal
• 34:31
  doesn't
• 34:31
  have
• 34:31
  to
• 34:31
  add
• 34:32
  that
• 34:32
  to
• 34:32
  her
• 34:32
  or
• 34:32
  his
• 34:33
  plate.
• 34:33
  And
• 34:34
  when
• 34:34
  there
• 34:34
  is
• 34:35
  an
• 34:35
  order
• 34:35
  form
• 34:36
  that
• 34:36
  if
• 34:36
  they'd
• 34:37
  like
• 34:37
  to
• 34:37
  order
• 34:37
  a
• 34:37
  book,
• 34:37
  there's
• 34:38
  no
• 34:38
  pressure
• 34:39
  at
• 34:39
  all,
• 34:40
  if
• 34:40
  they'd
• 34:40
  like
• 34:41
  to,
• 34:41
  I
• 34:42
  will
• 34:42
  bring
• 34:42
  the
• 34:42
  book
• 34:42
  with
• 34:43
  me
• 34:43
  on
• 34:43
  the
• 34:44
  day
• 34:44
  of
• 34:44
  the.
• 34:45
  So
• 34:45
  that
• 34:45
  has
• 34:46
  been
• 34:46
  great.
• 34:47
  That's
• 34:47
  terrific
• 34:48
  advice
• 34:48
  because
• 34:49
  I
• 34:49
  find
• 34:50
  that
• 34:51
  when
• 34:51
  I
• 34:52
  talk
• 34:52
  to
• 34:52
  some
• 34:52
  of
• 34:52
  the
• 34:53
  children's
• 34:53
  book
• 34:53
  authors
• 34:54
  that
• 34:54
  I've
• 34:54
  had
• 34:54
  on
• 34:54
  as
• 34:54
  guests,
• 34:55
  they
• 34:55
  tend
• 34:56
  to
• 34:56
  take
• 34:56
  the
• 34:56
  order
• 34:56
  form
• 34:57
  with
• 34:57
  them,
• 34:57
  but
• 34:58
  that
• 34:58
  generally
• 34:59
  tends
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  be
• 34:59
  not
• 35:00
  as
• 35:00
  successful.
• 35:01
  Doing
• 35:01
  what
• 35:02
  Noelle
• 35:02
  suggested
• 35:03
  you
• 35:03
  do,
• 35:03
  doing
• 35:04
  it
• 35:04
  in
• 35:04
  advance
• 35:05
  can
• 35:05
  be
• 35:05
  much
• 35:06
  more
• 35:06
  a
• 35:06
  positive
• 35:07
  experience
• 35:08
  for
• 35:08
  you.
• 35:09
  Absolutely.
• 35:09
  And
• 35:09
  then
• 35:10
  it's
• 35:10
  like
• 35:11
  when
• 35:11
  you
• 35:11
  show
• 35:11
  up
• 35:11
  there,
• 35:12
  people
• 35:12
  want
• 35:12
  to
• 35:12
  walk
• 35:12
  away
• 35:13
  with
• 35:13
  the
• 35:13
  book.
• 35:14
  And
• 35:14
  from
• 35:15
  the
• 35:15
  author
• 35:15
  visits
• 35:16
  I've
• 35:16
  done
• 35:17
  most
• 35:17
  of
• 35:18
  the
• 35:18
  times,
• 35:18
  if
• 35:18
  not
• 35:18
  all
• 35:19
  the
• 35:19
  times
• 35:19
  it's
• 35:19
  been
• 35:20
  in
• 35:20
  the
• 35:20
  classrooms
• 35:21
  or
• 35:21
  in
• 35:21
  an
• 35:22
  auditorium,
• 35:22
  the
• 35:23
  parents
• 35:23
  haven't
• 35:23
  been
• 35:23
  there.
• 35:24
  The
• 35:24
  parents
• 35:25
  have
• 35:25
  already
• 35:25
  paid
• 35:25
  for
• 35:25
  the
• 35:25
  books.
• 35:26
  Kids
• 35:26
  can
• 35:26
  go
• 35:26
  home
• 35:27
  with
• 35:27
  the
• 35:27
  books.
• 35:28
  If
• 35:28
  you
• 35:28
  have
• 35:28
  an
• 35:28
  order
• 35:29
  form,
• 35:29
  then
• 35:29
  you
• 35:30
  have
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  ship
• 35:30
  the
• 35:30
  book.
• 35:30
  And
• 35:31
  now
• 35:31
  you're
• 35:31
  adding
• 35:31
  more
• 35:32
  cost.
• 35:32
  And
• 35:32
  a
• 35:33
  couple
• 35:33
  more
• 35:33
  steps
• 35:33
  for
• 35:33
  you.
• 35:34
  Are
• 35:34
  you
• 35:34
  a
• 35:34
  bird
• 35:35
  Like
• 35:35
  Me
• 35:36
  is
• 35:36
  through
• 35:37
  Amazon.
• 35:37
  Are
• 35:38
  you
• 35:38
  using
• 35:38
  Amazon's
• 35:40
  print
• 35:40
  on
• 35:40
  demand
• 35:41
  to
• 35:41
  get
• 35:41
  your
• 35:42
  author
• 35:42
  copies?
• 35:44
  Yes.
• 35:44
  And
• 35:45
  so
• 35:45
  you're
• 35:45
  making
• 35:46
  a
• 35:46
  much
• 35:46
  better
• 35:47
  margin
• 35:48
  when
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  take
• 35:48
  those
• 35:49
  books
• 35:49
  out
• 35:49
  with
• 35:50
  you
• 35:50
  than
• 35:51
  you
• 35:51
  would
• 35:51
  with
• 35:51
  your
• 35:52
  published
• 35:52
  books
• 35:52
  that
• 35:53
  you're
• 35:53
  doing
• 35:53
  through
• 35:53
  your
• 35:53
  traditional
• 35:54
  publisher.
• 35:55
  Yes.
• 35:56
  Another
• 35:56
  trade
• 35:57
  off
• 35:57
  is
• 35:59
  when
• 35:59
  you're
• 36:00
  doing
• 36:00
  something,
• 36:01
  let's
• 36:01
  say
• 36:02
  on
• 36:02
  demand
• 36:03
  or
• 36:04
  hybrid
• 36:04
  of
• 36:05
  some
• 36:05
  kind
• 36:05
  or
• 36:05
  your
• 36:05
  own
• 36:06
  independent
• 36:07
  process,
• 36:09
  the
• 36:10
  onus
• 36:10
  of
• 36:11
  the
• 36:11
  project
• 36:12
  is
• 36:12
  really
• 36:12
  on
• 36:13
  you.
• 36:14
  Just
• 36:14
  everything
• 36:15
  is
• 36:15
  on
• 36:16
  you.
• 36:16
  And
• 36:17
  that's
• 36:17
  not
• 36:17
  a
• 36:17
  bad
• 36:17
  thing
• 36:18
  to
• 36:18
  say,
• 36:18
  but
• 36:18
  it's
• 36:19
  just
• 36:19
  something
• 36:19
  to
• 36:19
  be
• 36:20
  aware
• 36:20
  of
• 36:21
  that
• 36:22
  you
• 36:22
  will
• 36:22
  be
• 36:23
  in
• 36:23
  charge
• 36:23
  of
• 36:24
  making
• 36:25
  the
• 36:25
  deadlines
• 36:26
  and
• 36:26
  following
• 36:27
  through.
• 36:28
  And
• 36:29
  let's
• 36:29
  say
• 36:29
  that
• 36:29
  there's
• 36:30
  some
• 36:30
  branding
• 36:30
  or
• 36:31
  some
• 36:31
  marketing
• 36:32
  involved
• 36:33
  or
• 36:34
  just
• 36:34
  whatever
• 36:34
  you
• 36:35
  need
• 36:35
  to
• 36:35
  get
• 36:35
  this
• 36:35
  book
• 36:36
  up
• 36:36
  and
• 36:36
  running.
• 36:36
  To
• 36:37
  find
• 36:37
  an
• 36:37
  illustrator.
• 36:38
  All
• 36:38
  the
• 36:38
  parts
• 36:39
  of
• 36:39
  it
• 36:40
  are
• 36:40
  on
• 36:40
  you.
• 36:41
  So
• 36:41
  talk
• 36:42
  to
• 36:42
  us.
• 36:42
  It's
• 36:43
  neat
• 36:43
  to
• 36:43
  have
• 36:43
  you
• 36:43
  on
• 36:43
  as
• 36:44
  a
• 36:44
  guest
• 36:44
  because
• 36:44
  you
• 36:44
  can
• 36:45
  talk
• 36:45
  from
• 36:45
  the
• 36:46
  hybrid
• 36:46
  publishing
• 36:47
  aspect
• 36:48
  and
• 36:48
  you
• 36:48
  can
• 36:48
  also
• 36:48
  talk
• 36:49
  about
• 36:49
  from
• 36:50
  where
• 36:50
  you've
• 36:51
  taken
• 36:51
  on
• 36:51
  the
• 36:51
  project.
• 36:52
  Now,
• 36:53
  you
• 36:53
  talked
• 36:53
  about
• 36:54
  the
• 36:55
  traditional
• 36:55
  publisher
• 36:56
  allowing
• 36:56
  you
• 36:57
  to
• 36:57
  help
• 36:58
  find
• 36:58
  the
• 36:58
  illustrator,
• 36:59
  which
• 36:59
  is
• 36:59
  great.
• 37:00
  Did
• 37:01
  you
• 37:01
  use
• 37:01
  the
• 37:01
  same
• 37:02
  illustrator
• 37:02
  for
• 37:03
  both
• 37:03
  children's
• 37:03
  books?
• 37:04
  No.
• 37:05
  What
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  publisher
• 37:06
  did
• 37:06
  was
• 37:06
  they
• 37:06
  gave
• 37:07
  me
• 37:07
  choices.
• 37:08
  So
• 37:08
  they
• 37:08
  have
• 37:08
  relationships
• 37:10
  with
• 37:10
  illustrators
• 37:12
  and
• 37:12
  they
• 37:12
  gave
• 37:13
  me
• 37:13
  some
• 37:13
  choices.
• 37:13
  And
• 37:13
  then
• 37:14
  I
• 37:14
  went
• 37:14
  through
• 37:14
  their
• 37:14
  portfolios
• 37:15
  of
• 37:15
  all
• 37:16
  those
• 37:16
  different
• 37:16
  authors
• 37:17
  that
• 37:17
  they
• 37:17
  gave
• 37:17
  me
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  choices
• 37:18
  of.
• 37:18
  That
• 37:19
  worked
• 37:19
  out
• 37:20
  well.
• 37:21
  Now,
• 37:21
  when
• 37:21
  it
• 37:21
  came
• 37:21
  to
• 37:22
  the
• 37:22
  second
• 37:22
  book,
• 37:23
  we
• 37:23
  found
• 37:23
  our
• 37:24
  own
• 37:24
  publisher,
• 37:25
  and
• 37:25
  Pear
• 37:26
  Tree
• 37:26
  Publishing
• 37:27
  had
• 37:28
  on
• 37:28
  its
• 37:28
  website
• 37:31
  some
• 37:32
  illustrators
• 37:33
  they
• 37:33
  had
• 37:33
  worked
• 37:33
  with.
• 37:34
  And
• 37:35
  so
• 37:35
  I
• 37:35
  saw
• 37:36
  one.
• 37:36
  Colleen
• 37:37
  Scroy
• 37:37
  is
• 37:37
  her
• 37:38
  name,
• 37:38
  and
• 37:38
  that's
• 37:38
  who
• 37:39
  we
• 37:39
  went
• 37:39
  with.
• 37:39
  I
• 37:40
  liked
• 37:40
  her
• 37:40
  work
• 37:41
  and
• 37:42
  I
• 37:42
  just
• 37:42
  thought
• 37:42
  it
• 37:43
  was
• 37:43
  going
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  work
• 37:43
  beautifully
• 37:44
  with
• 37:44
  this
• 37:44
  story.
• 37:45
  And
• 37:45
  I
• 37:46
  just
• 37:46
  think
• 37:46
  her
• 37:47
  illustrations
• 37:47
  are
• 37:48
  beautiful
• 37:48
  and
• 37:49
  just
• 37:49
  really
• 37:49
  compliment
• 37:50
  the
• 37:50
  story
• 37:51
  so
• 37:51
  well,
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  lot
• 37:52
  of
• 37:52
  people
• 37:52
  will
• 37:52
  compliment
• 37:53
  the
• 37:53
  illustrations
• 37:54
  in
• 37:54
  that
• 37:54
  book
• 37:55
  that
• 37:55
  we
• 37:56
  were
• 37:56
  very
• 37:56
  blessed.
• 37:56
  And
• 37:57
  if
• 37:57
  we
• 37:57
  did
• 37:57
  another
• 37:58
  book,
• 38:00
  if
• 38:00
  the
• 38:00
  storyline
• 38:02
  was
• 38:02
  in
• 38:03
  alignment
• 38:03
  with
• 38:04
  what
• 38:04
  I
• 38:04
  believe
• 38:04
  her
• 38:05
  style
• 38:05
  to
• 38:05
  be,
• 38:05
  how
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  see
• 38:06
  her
• 38:06
  style,
• 38:07
  I
• 38:07
  would
• 38:08
  call
• 38:08
  her
• 38:08
  back
• 38:08
  in
• 38:09
  a
• 38:09
  heartbeat.
• 38:09
  We
• 38:09
  loved
• 38:10
  working
• 38:10
  with
• 38:10
  her.
• 38:11
  She
• 38:11
  was
• 38:11
  wonderful.
• 38:12
  I'm
• 38:13
  glad
• 38:13
  you
• 38:13
  said
• 38:13
  that
• 38:14
  because
• 38:14
  I've
• 38:14
  talked
• 38:15
  to
• 38:15
  some
• 38:16
  authors
• 38:16
  who
• 38:17
  just
• 38:17
  loved
• 38:17
  their
• 38:17
  illustrator.
• 38:19
  So
• 38:19
  come
• 38:20
  hell
• 38:20
  or
• 38:21
  high
• 38:21
  water,
• 38:22
  they're
• 38:22
  going
• 38:22
  to
• 38:22
  use
• 38:22
  the
• 38:23
  same
• 38:23
  illustrator
• 38:23
  for
• 38:24
  all
• 38:24
  of
• 38:24
  their
• 38:24
  books.
• 38:25
  And
• 38:25
  I've
• 38:26
  talked
• 38:26
  to
• 38:26
  some
• 38:26
  authors
• 38:27
  who
• 38:27
  have
• 38:27
  published
• 38:28
  five
• 38:28
  or
• 38:28
  six
• 38:28
  books,
• 38:29
  and
• 38:29
  that's
• 38:29
  what
• 38:29
  they've
• 38:30
  done.
• 38:30
  Then
• 38:30
  I've
• 38:30
  talked
• 38:31
  to
• 38:31
  others
• 38:31
  who
• 38:32
  are
• 38:32
  like
• 38:32
  you,
• 38:33
  who
• 38:34
  had
• 38:35
  this
• 38:35
  story
• 38:36
  and
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  words
• 38:37
  and
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  illustrations
• 38:39
  had
• 38:39
  to
• 38:39
  come
• 38:40
  together
• 38:40
  to
• 38:41
  get
• 38:41
  the
• 38:41
  essence
• 38:41
  of
• 38:42
  the
• 38:42
  book.
• 38:42
  So
• 38:42
  they
• 38:42
  used
• 38:43
  a
• 38:43
  different
• 38:43
  illustrator
• 38:44
  each
• 38:44
  time?
• 38:45
  Yes.
• 38:46
  Now,
• 38:46
  if
• 38:47
  you
• 38:47
  had
• 38:47
  a
• 38:47
  series,
• 38:48
  I
• 38:48
  could
• 38:48
  see
• 38:49
  how
• 38:49
  having
• 38:49
  that
• 38:50
  same
• 38:50
  illustrator
• 38:51
  could
• 38:51
  be
• 38:52
  more
• 38:52
  impactful.
• 38:53
  And
• 38:54
  the
• 38:54
  consistency.
• 38:55
  That's
• 38:55
  what
• 38:55
  we
• 38:55
  did
• 38:56
  with
• 38:56
  our
• 38:56
  first
• 38:56
  two
• 38:57
  books
• 38:57
  in
• 38:57
  our
• 38:57
  series
• 38:58
  is
• 38:58
  we've
• 38:59
  used
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  same
• 38:59
  illustrator
• 39:00
  because
• 39:01
  in
• 39:01
  our
• 39:01
  first
• 39:02
  book
• 39:02
  we
• 39:02
  introduced
• 39:03
  two
• 39:03
  main
• 39:04
  characters
• 39:05
  in
• 39:05
  the
• 39:05
  family.
• 39:06
  And
• 39:06
  then
• 39:06
  in
• 39:07
  the
• 39:07
  third
• 39:07
  book,
• 39:07
  we
• 39:07
  introduced
• 39:08
  two
• 39:09
  more
• 39:09
  characters
• 39:10
  in
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  family.
• 39:11
  So
• 39:11
  we
• 39:12
  stuck
• 39:12
  with
• 39:12
  the
• 39:12
  same
• 39:13
  illustrator
• 39:13
  because
• 39:14
  that
• 39:14
  person
• 39:15
  gave
• 39:15
  us
• 39:15
  the
• 39:15
  essence
• 39:16
  of
• 39:16
  what
• 39:16
  we
• 39:16
  were
• 39:16
  trying
• 39:16
  to
• 39:17
  capture.
• 39:18
  Yes.
• 39:18
  Yeah.
• 39:19
  Thank
• 39:19
  you
• 39:19
  for
• 39:19
  mentioning
• 39:20
  that.
• 39:20
  Your
• 39:20
  website
• 39:21
  again,
• 39:22
  I'm
• 39:22
  going
• 39:22
  to
• 39:22
  make
• 39:22
  sure
• 39:23
  there's
• 39:23
  a
• 39:23
  link
• 39:23
  to
• 39:24
  Noelle's
• 39:24
  website.
• 39:25
  But
• 39:25
  it's
• 39:25
  an
• 39:26
  interesting
• 39:26
  dynamic
• 39:27
  with
• 39:28
  your
• 39:28
  website
• 39:28
  because
• 39:30
  you
• 39:30
  really
• 39:30
  got
• 39:31
  several
• 39:32
  audiences
• 39:33
  that
• 39:33
  you're
• 39:33
  speaking
• 39:34
  to.
• 39:35
  In
• 39:35
  our
• 39:35
  case,
• 39:36
  the
• 39:36
  name
• 39:36
  of
• 39:36
  our
• 39:36
  website
• 39:37
  is
• 39:37
  Caboose,
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  Rocky
• 39:38
  Mountain
• 39:39
  bear.
• 39:39
  Com.
• 39:40
  It
• 39:41
  speaks
• 39:41
  to
• 39:41
  the
• 39:42
  series
• 39:42
  of
• 39:42
  our
• 39:42
  children's
• 39:43
  books.
• 39:44
  In
• 39:44
  your
• 39:44
  case,
• 39:45
  you
• 39:46
  are
• 39:46
  using
• 39:47
  your
• 39:48
  website
• 39:49
  to
• 39:49
  do
• 39:50
  a
• 39:50
  broader
• 39:51
  range
• 39:51
  of
• 39:51
  things.
• 39:52
  So
• 39:53
  talk
• 39:53
  to
• 39:53
  us
• 39:53
  about
• 39:54
  that
• 39:54
  strategy.
• 39:55
  The
• 39:55
  reason
• 39:55
  I
• 39:55
  bring
• 39:55
  this
• 39:56
  question
• 39:56
  up
• 39:57
  is
• 39:58
  when
• 39:58
  I
• 39:58
  started
• 39:59
  the
• 39:59
  podcast,
• 40:00
  it's
• 40:00
  called
• 40:00
  Adventures
• 40:01
  in
• 40:01
  the
• 40:01
  Heart
• 40:01
  of
• 40:02
  Children's
• 40:02
  Book
• 40:02
  Authors.
• 40:03
  You
• 40:03
  can
• 40:03
  see
• 40:03
  it
• 40:04
  captures
• 40:04
  the
• 40:04
  same
• 40:05
  outdoorsy,
• 40:06
  woodsy
• 40:07
  feel,
• 40:08
  but
• 40:08
  it
• 40:08
  was
• 40:08
  a
• 40:09
  separate
• 40:09
  focus.
• 40:09
  It's
• 40:10
  about
• 40:10
  a
• 40:10
  broad
• 40:10
  range
• 40:11
  of
• 40:11
  children's
• 40:11
  books
• 40:12
  that
• 40:12
  I
• 40:12
  incorporated
• 40:13
  into
• 40:14
  our
• 40:14
  Caboose
• 40:15
  website.
• 40:15
  At
• 40:15
  this
• 40:16
  point,
• 40:16
  we're
• 40:16
  hosting
• 40:18
  ourselves
• 40:19
  with
• 40:19
  a
• 40:19
  separate
• 40:20
  idea
• 40:20
  because
• 40:20
  the
• 40:21
  podcast
• 40:21
  show
• 40:21
  is
• 40:22
  certainly.
• 40:23
  Even
• 40:23
  though
• 40:24
  I
• 40:24
  talk
• 40:24
  to
• 40:24
  children's
• 40:25
  book
• 40:25
  authors,
• 40:26
  it's
• 40:26
  separate
• 40:27
  from
• 40:28
  our
• 40:28
  children's
• 40:29
  book
• 40:29
  series.
• 40:29
  But
• 40:30
  in
• 40:30
  your
• 40:30
  case,
• 40:31
  you're
• 40:31
  wearing
• 40:32
  a
• 40:32
  lot
• 40:32
  of
• 40:32
  hats
• 40:32
  with
• 40:33
  your
• 40:33
  website.
• 40:33
  So
• 40:34
  talk
• 40:34
  to
• 40:34
  us
• 40:34
  about
• 40:34
  that
• 40:35
  strategy.
• 40:36
  You're
• 40:37
  making
• 40:37
  me
• 40:37
  laugh
• 40:37
  because
• 40:38
  I'm
• 40:38
  not
• 40:38
  quite
• 40:38
  sure
• 40:39
  if
• 40:39
  my
• 40:40
  strategy
• 40:40
  is
• 40:40
  the
• 40:41
  best
• 40:42
  because
• 40:43
  my
• 40:43
  books
• 40:44
  are
• 40:44
  incorporated
• 40:45
  in
• 40:45
  my
• 40:45
  business,
• 40:46
  that
• 40:47
  they're
• 40:48
  part
• 40:48
  of
• 40:49
  my
• 40:49
  business
• 40:50
  website.
• 40:51
  And
• 40:51
  I
• 40:51
  have
• 40:52
  played
• 40:52
  around
• 40:52
  with
• 40:53
  the
• 40:53
  idea
• 40:53
  of
• 40:54
  should
• 40:54
  I
• 40:55
  just
• 40:55
  have
• 40:55
  a
• 40:55
  Noel
• 40:56
  Foy
• 40:57
  author
• 40:57
  website?
• 40:58
  And
• 40:58
  I
• 40:59
  might
• 40:59
  do
• 40:59
  that.
• 40:59
  I
• 41:00
  am
• 41:00
  a
• 41:00
  one
• 41:00
  woman
• 41:01
  show.
• 41:01
  So
• 41:02
  I
• 41:02
  sometimes
• 41:02
  say,
• 41:03
  okay,
• 41:03
  I
• 41:04
  have
• 41:04
  to
• 41:04
  put
• 41:05
  that
• 41:05
  aside.
• 41:05
  Just
• 41:05
  so
• 41:05
  you
• 41:06
  know,
• 41:06
  Noelle,
• 41:07
  I
• 41:07
  wasn't
• 41:07
  confused.
• 41:08
  So
• 41:08
  I,
• 41:08
  I
• 41:09
  don't
• 41:09
  want
• 41:09
  to,
• 41:09
  I
• 41:09
  don't,
• 41:10
  I
• 41:10
  like,
• 41:10
  I
• 41:10
  don't
• 41:10
  want
• 41:11
  to
• 41:11
  have
• 41:11
  the
• 41:11
  listeners
• 41:12
  thinking,
• 41:12
  oh
• 41:12
  my
• 41:12
  goodness,
• 41:13
  Rick
• 41:13
  was
• 41:14
  confused.
• 41:14
  No,
• 41:15
  I
• 41:15
  wasn't
• 41:15
  confused
• 41:15
  because.
• 41:16
  And
• 41:16
  that's
• 41:17
  the
• 41:17
  point
• 41:17
  I'm
• 41:17
  trying
• 41:17
  to
• 41:18
  get
• 41:18
  across
• 41:18
  is
• 41:19
  that
• 41:19
  user
• 41:20
  strategically,
• 41:21
  whether
• 41:21
  you
• 41:22
  think
• 41:22
  the
• 41:23
  strategy
• 41:23
  is
• 41:23
  working
• 41:23
  or
• 41:24
  not
• 41:24
  working,
• 41:25
  you
• 41:25
  use
• 41:25
  that
• 41:26
  strategy
• 41:26
  to
• 41:27
  help
• 41:27
  build
• 41:27
  out
• 41:28
  your
• 41:28
  business
• 41:29
  and
• 41:29
  build
• 41:30
  your
• 41:30
  children's
• 41:31
  book
• 41:31
  business.
• 41:31
  But
• 41:31
  it's
• 41:32
  more.
• 41:32
  But
• 41:33
  it's
• 41:33
  more
• 41:33
  than
• 41:33
  that.
• 41:34
  Your
• 41:34
  children's
• 41:35
  book
• 41:35
  business
• 41:35
  is
• 41:35
  more
• 41:36
  than
• 41:36
  that
• 41:36
  or
• 41:37
  it's
• 41:37
  part
• 41:38
  of
• 41:38
  a
• 41:39
  bigger
• 41:40
  offering.
• 41:40
  And
• 41:41
  that's
• 41:41
  what
• 41:41
  I'm
• 41:41
  trying
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  get
• 41:42
  children's
• 41:43
  book
• 41:43
  authors
• 41:44
  to
• 41:44
  realize,
• 41:44
  that
• 41:45
  you
• 41:45
  can
• 41:46
  think
• 41:46
  outside
• 41:47
  the
• 41:47
  book
• 41:47
  and
• 41:47
  build
• 41:48
  it
• 41:48
  into
• 41:48
  a
• 41:48
  bigger
• 41:49
  offering.
• 41:49
  Because
• 41:50
  to
• 41:50
  what
• 41:51
  you
• 41:51
  said
• 41:51
  earlier,
• 41:52
  Noel,
• 41:52
  you
• 41:53
  gotta
• 41:53
  sell
• 41:53
  a
• 41:54
  ton
• 41:54
  of
• 41:54
  books
• 41:55
  to
• 41:55
  make
• 41:55
  any
• 41:56
  type
• 41:56
  of
• 41:56
  living
• 41:57
  if
• 41:57
  you're
• 41:57
  going
• 41:57
  to
• 41:57
  become
• 41:58
  a
• 41:58
  children's
• 41:58
  book
• 41:58
  author
• 41:59
  and
• 41:59
  you'd
• 41:59
  like
• 42:00
  to
• 42:00
  draw
• 42:00
  in
• 42:00
  some
• 42:00
  Revenue,
• 42:02
  you
• 42:02
  always
• 42:02
  have
• 42:03
  to
• 42:03
  think
• 42:03
  about
• 42:04
  what
• 42:05
  some
• 42:05
  other
• 42:06
  sources
• 42:06
  of
• 42:07
  revenue
• 42:07
  I
• 42:08
  can
• 42:08
  build
• 42:08
  with
• 42:08
  my
• 42:09
  book.
• 42:09
  So
• 42:09
  talk
• 42:09
  to
• 42:09
  us
• 42:10
  about
• 42:10
  your
• 42:10
  website
• 42:10
  and
• 42:11
  how
• 42:11
  you
• 42:11
  did
• 42:11
  that.
• 42:12
  That's
• 42:12
  a
• 42:12
  very
• 42:12
  good
• 42:13
  point.
• 42:14
  So
• 42:14
  yes,
• 42:14
  you
• 42:15
  can
• 42:16
  do
• 42:16
  well
• 42:17
  from
• 42:18
  workshops,
• 42:19
  author
• 42:20
  visits.
• 42:20
  If
• 42:20
  you
• 42:21
  have
• 42:21
  a
• 42:21
  book,
• 42:22
  say
• 42:23
  I
• 42:23
  know
• 42:23
  one
• 42:23
  of
• 42:23
  your
• 42:23
  authors
• 42:24
  you
• 42:24
  had
• 42:24
  on
• 42:24
  recently
• 42:25
  as
• 42:25
  a
• 42:25
  deann
• 42:26
  who
• 42:28
  spoke
• 42:28
  about
• 42:29
  emotional
• 42:29
  intelligence.
• 42:31
  Yes.
• 42:31
  Deanna
• 42:31
  Plasko
• 42:32
  on
• 42:32
  episode
• 42:32
  52.
• 42:33
  So
• 42:34
  I'm
• 42:35
  not
• 42:35
  sure
• 42:35
  if
• 42:36
  she
• 42:36
  has
• 42:36
  workshops
• 42:37
  on
• 42:37
  that.
• 42:38
  That
• 42:39
  is
• 42:39
  an
• 42:39
  example
• 42:40
  though
• 42:40
  where
• 42:40
  you
• 42:41
  could
• 42:41
  have
• 42:41
  a
• 42:41
  workshop
• 42:42
  in
• 42:42
  schools
• 42:42
  or
• 42:43
  you
• 42:43
  could
• 42:43
  be
• 42:43
  at
• 42:44
  libraries
• 42:45
  at
• 42:46
  different
• 42:46
  mental
• 42:46
  health
• 42:47
  institutions.
• 42:48
  There's
• 42:48
  definitely
• 42:48
  a
• 42:48
  lot
• 42:49
  of
• 42:49
  opportunities
• 42:49
  if
• 42:50
  you
• 42:50
  have
• 42:50
  a
• 42:50
  workshop
• 42:50
  and
• 42:51
  then
• 42:51
  books
• 42:51
  that
• 42:51
  go
• 42:51
  along
• 42:52
  with
• 42:52
  it.
• 42:52
  For
• 42:53
  my
• 42:53
  website,
• 42:54
  my
• 42:55
  business
• 42:56
  was
• 42:56
  there
• 42:57
  before
• 42:57
  the
• 42:57
  books.
• 42:59
  So
• 42:59
  the
• 42:59
  books
• 43:00
  then
• 43:00
  became
• 43:01
  part
• 43:02
  of
• 43:02
  my
• 43:02
  business
• 43:03
  and
• 43:04
  I
• 43:04
  used
• 43:04
  them
• 43:04
  in
• 43:05
  the
• 43:05
  workshops.
• 43:06
  I
• 43:06
  used
• 43:06
  them
• 43:07
  in
• 43:07
  the
• 43:07
  one
• 43:07
  on
• 43:07
  one
• 43:08
  coaching
• 43:08
  and
• 43:09
  I
• 43:09
  used
• 43:09
  them
• 43:09
  in
• 43:09
  the
• 43:10
  author
• 43:10
  visits.
• 43:11
  I
• 43:11
  thought
• 43:11
  keep
• 43:12
  it
• 43:12
  all
• 43:12
  in
• 43:12
  one
• 43:13
  and
• 43:13
  then
• 43:13
  it
• 43:13
  can
• 43:13
  get
• 43:14
  a
• 43:14
  little
• 43:14
  confusing.
• 43:15
  I
• 43:15
  have
• 43:16
  a
• 43:16
  nickname
• 43:16
  of
• 43:17
  being
• 43:17
  called
• 43:17
  Neuro
• 43:18
  Noel.
• 43:19
  Right.
• 43:20
  And
• 43:20
  so
• 43:21
  that's
• 43:21
  because
• 43:22
  a
• 43:23
  lot
• 43:23
  of
• 43:23
  what
• 43:24
  I
• 43:24
  do
• 43:25
  relates
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  the
• 43:26
  brain.
• 43:27
  So
• 43:28
  I
• 43:28
  thought,
• 43:28
  okay,
• 43:29
  do
• 43:29
  I
• 43:29
  do
• 43:29
  a
• 43:29
  Neuro
• 43:30
  Noel
• 43:31
  website?
• 43:32
  Now
• 43:32
  there's.
• 43:32
  It
• 43:33
  started
• 43:33
  to
• 43:33
  feel
• 43:33
  like
• 43:33
  there's
• 43:34
  too
• 43:34
  many
• 43:34
  names
• 43:34
  out
• 43:34
  there
• 43:35
  and
• 43:35
  that's
• 43:35
  going
• 43:35
  to
• 43:35
  get
• 43:35
  confusing.
• 43:37
  So
• 43:37
  on
• 43:37
  the
• 43:38
  website
• 43:38
  I
• 43:38
  basically
• 43:38
  just
• 43:39
  have
• 43:39
  a
• 43:39
  section
• 43:40
  about
• 43:40
  my
• 43:40
  author
• 43:41
  visits
• 43:41
  and
• 43:42
  then
• 43:42
  a
• 43:42
  section
• 43:43
  for
• 43:43
  the
• 43:43
  books
• 43:44
  explaining
• 43:44
  each
• 43:44
  books
• 43:45
  and
• 43:45
  then
• 43:45
  a
• 43:45
  section
• 43:45
  for
• 43:45
  the
• 43:46
  workshops.
• 43:47
  And
• 43:47
  then
• 43:47
  the
• 43:47
  workshops
• 43:48
  will
• 43:48
  usually
• 43:49
  say
• 43:49
  using
• 43:50
  ABC
• 43:50
  worry
• 43:51
  free
• 43:52
  or
• 43:52
  using
• 43:52
  15
• 43:53
  minute
• 43:53
  focus
• 43:53
  executive
• 43:54
  function.
• 43:55
  We
• 43:55
  will
• 43:56
  address
• 43:56
  these
• 43:56
  objectives
• 43:57
  and
• 43:58
  that's.
• 43:58
  What
• 43:59
  I
• 43:59
  encourage
• 43:59
  everybody
• 44:00
  to
• 44:00
  go
• 44:00
  to
• 44:00
  your
• 44:01
  website
• 44:01
  because
• 44:01
  I
• 44:01
  love
• 44:02
  how
• 44:02
  you've
• 44:02
  done
• 44:02
  that.
• 44:03
  And
• 44:04
  so
• 44:04
  it
• 44:05
  doesn't
• 44:05
  necessarily
• 44:06
  have
• 44:06
  to
• 44:06
  be
• 44:07
  Noelle's
• 44:07
  approach,
• 44:08
  but
• 44:09
  you
• 44:09
  can
• 44:09
  find
• 44:09
  your
• 44:10
  own
• 44:10
  approach.
• 44:10
  And
• 44:11
  like
• 44:11
  I
• 44:11
  said
• 44:11
  to
• 44:11
  you,
• 44:11
  I'm
• 44:12
  finding
• 44:12
  more
• 44:12
  and
• 44:12
  more
• 44:13
  that
• 44:15
  especially
• 44:15
  teachers
• 44:16
  are
• 44:16
  coming
• 44:16
  on
• 44:17
  talking
• 44:17
  about
• 44:18
  developing
• 44:18
  a
• 44:19
  curriculum
• 44:19
  to
• 44:20
  support
• 44:20
  their
• 44:21
  book
• 44:21
  so
• 44:22
  that
• 44:22
  they
• 44:22
  can
• 44:22
  at
• 44:22
  least
• 44:23
  create
• 44:24
  some
• 44:24
  more
• 44:24
  revenue
• 44:25
  streams.
• 44:26
  Absolutely.
• 44:27
  And
• 44:27
  some
• 44:28
  people
• 44:28
  even
• 44:28
  do
• 44:29
  like
• 44:29
  courses.
• 44:30
  I
• 44:31
  have
• 44:31
  played
• 44:32
  around
• 44:32
  with
• 44:32
  that
• 44:32
  idea
• 44:33
  and
• 44:33
  that's
• 44:33
  on
• 44:33
  my
• 44:33
  list
• 44:34
  of
• 44:34
  things
• 44:34
  to
• 44:34
  do.
• 44:35
  But
• 44:35
  you
• 44:35
  could
• 44:35
  have
• 44:36
  a
• 44:36
  course
• 44:37
  that
• 44:37
  you
• 44:37
  could
• 44:37
  teach
• 44:38
  or
• 44:38
  a
• 44:38
  webinar
• 44:38
  and
• 44:39
  something
• 44:39
  completely
• 44:40
  online
• 44:40
  if
• 44:40
  you
• 44:40
  want.
• 44:41
  And
• 44:41
  then
• 44:41
  the
• 44:41
  book
• 44:42
  is
• 44:42
  part
• 44:42
  of
• 44:42
  that.
• 44:43
  I'm
• 44:43
  curious
• 44:44
  about
• 44:46
  your
• 44:46
  social
• 44:47
  media
• 44:48
  and
• 44:49
  I
• 44:49
  noticed
• 44:50
  that
• 44:50
  you
• 44:50
  have
• 44:51
  Facebook,
• 44:52
  Instagram
• 44:52
  and
• 44:53
  I
• 44:53
  believe
• 44:53
  you're
• 44:53
  also
• 44:54
  on
• 44:54
  LinkedIn.
• 44:55
  Yes.
• 44:55
  You
• 44:55
  said
• 44:55
  you
• 44:56
  had
• 44:56
  your
• 44:56
  website
• 44:57
  before
• 44:57
  you
• 44:57
  brought
• 44:57
  your
• 44:58
  books
• 44:58
  to
• 44:58
  children's
• 44:59
  books
• 44:59
  to
• 45:00
  market.
• 45:00
  So
• 45:01
  talk
• 45:01
  to
• 45:01
  us
• 45:01
  about
• 45:02
  how
• 45:02
  you
• 45:02
  launched
• 45:03
  both
• 45:03
  of
• 45:03
  Your
• 45:03
  children's
• 45:04
  books,
• 45:04
  or
• 45:04
  all
• 45:04
  three
• 45:05
  of
• 45:05
  your
• 45:05
  books,
• 45:05
  for
• 45:05
  that
• 45:05
  matter.
• 45:06
  How
• 45:06
  did
• 45:07
  you
• 45:07
  use
• 45:07
  your
• 45:07
  social
• 45:09
  media?
• 45:10
  And
• 45:10
  did
• 45:10
  you
• 45:10
  use
• 45:11
  Facebook
• 45:12
  different
• 45:12
  than
• 45:12
  Instagram
• 45:13
  or
• 45:13
  Instagram
• 45:14
  different
• 45:15
  than
• 45:15
  LinkedIn?
• 45:16
  Talk
• 45:16
  to
• 45:16
  us
• 45:17
  about
• 45:17
  your
• 45:17
  social
• 45:17
  media
• 45:18
  approach.
• 45:20
  All
• 45:20
  right,
• 45:20
  so
• 45:20
  if
• 45:20
  I'm
• 45:21
  going
• 45:21
  to
• 45:21
  be
• 45:21
  absolutely
• 45:22
  honest,
• 45:23
  I
• 45:23
  came
• 45:24
  to
• 45:25
  this
• 45:25
  whole
• 45:25
  author
• 45:26
  experience
• 45:26
  with
• 45:27
  zero
• 45:27
  social
• 45:28
  media.
• 45:29
  I
• 45:29
  came
• 45:30
  kicking
• 45:30
  and
• 45:30
  screaming
• 45:31
  to
• 45:32
  social
• 45:32
  media.
• 45:33
  And
• 45:34
  then
• 45:34
  it
• 45:34
  really
• 45:34
  was
• 45:35
  an
• 45:35
  expectation
• 45:36
  with
• 45:36
  the
• 45:37
  publisher
• 45:38
  that
• 45:38
  became
• 45:38
  kind
• 45:39
  of
• 45:39
  part
• 45:39
  of
• 45:39
  our
• 45:39
  discussion.
• 45:40
  And
• 45:40
  it's
• 45:40
  like
• 45:41
  an
• 45:41
  expectation
• 45:41
  and
• 45:41
  they
• 45:42
  give
• 45:42
  you
• 45:42
  is
• 45:43
  your
• 45:43
  contract.
• 45:43
  These
• 45:43
  are
• 45:44
  some
• 45:44
  expectations
• 45:44
  we
• 45:45
  have.
• 45:46
  I
• 45:46
  wrapped
• 45:47
  my
• 45:47
  head
• 45:47
  around
• 45:47
  it,
• 45:48
  and
• 45:49
  the
• 45:49
  only
• 45:50
  thing
• 45:50
  that
• 45:50
  I
• 45:51
  personally
• 45:52
  could
• 45:52
  make
• 45:52
  peace
• 45:52
  with
• 45:53
  was
• 45:54
  that
• 45:55
  I
• 45:55
  would
• 45:56
  do
• 45:56
  this.
• 45:57
  I
• 45:57
  will
• 45:57
  do
• 45:57
  this
• 45:58
  only
• 45:58
  if
• 45:58
  I
• 45:58
  feel
• 45:59
  I'm
• 45:59
  being
• 45:59
  helpful.
• 46:00
  That
• 46:00
  is
• 46:01
  why
• 46:01
  I
• 46:01
  write
• 46:01
  these
• 46:01
  books,
• 46:02
  is
• 46:02
  to
• 46:02
  be
• 46:03
  empowering,
• 46:04
  to
• 46:04
  help
• 46:04
  and
• 46:04
  support
• 46:05
  others.
• 46:07
  So
• 46:07
  I
• 46:07
  was
• 46:07
  like,
• 46:07
  you're
• 46:07
  not
• 46:08
  going
• 46:08
  to
• 46:08
  find
• 46:08
  an
• 46:09
  Instagram
• 46:10
  where.
• 46:10
  It's
• 46:10
  just.
• 46:12
  I
• 46:12
  don't
• 46:12
  even
• 46:13
  know
• 46:13
  how
• 46:13
  to
• 46:13
  say
• 46:13
  this
• 46:13
  without
• 46:14
  sounding
• 46:14
  disrespectful,
• 46:15
  but
• 46:15
  I
• 46:16
  am
• 46:16
  not
• 46:16
  super
• 46:17
  comfortable
• 46:17
  of
• 46:18
  just
• 46:18
  pictures
• 46:18
  of
• 46:18
  me.
• 46:19
  Ironically,
• 46:20
  what
• 46:21
  I'm
• 46:21
  finding
• 46:21
  is
• 46:21
  people
• 46:22
  like
• 46:23
  pictures
• 46:23
  of
• 46:24
  seeing
• 46:24
  me
• 46:24
  in
• 46:24
  the
• 46:25
  field
• 46:25
  so
• 46:25
  that
• 46:26
  I
• 46:26
  can
• 46:26
  make
• 46:26
  peace
• 46:27
  with
• 46:27
  completely
• 46:28
  because
• 46:28
  I'm
• 46:28
  out
• 46:28
  in
• 46:29
  the
• 46:29
  field
• 46:29
  and
• 46:29
  I'm
• 46:29
  doing
• 46:29
  what
• 46:30
  I
• 46:30
  love.
• 46:31
  But
• 46:32
  beyond
• 46:32
  that,
• 46:33
  I
• 46:34
  just
• 46:34
  wanted
• 46:34
  to
• 46:34
  make
• 46:35
  sure
• 46:35
  that
• 46:35
  I
• 46:35
  was
• 46:36
  like,
• 46:36
  being
• 46:36
  informative.
• 46:38
  So
• 46:38
  if
• 46:38
  you
• 46:38
  were
• 46:38
  to
• 46:39
  go
• 46:39
  to
• 46:39
  my
• 46:39
  Instagram
• 46:40
  or
• 46:41
  really
• 46:41
  Instagram
• 46:42
  is
• 46:42
  where
• 46:42
  I
• 46:42
  do
• 46:42
  this
• 46:42
  the
• 46:43
  most,
• 46:44
  is
• 46:45
  you'll
• 46:45
  find
• 46:46
  a
• 46:46
  picture
• 46:46
  of
• 46:46
  me
• 46:47
  or
• 46:47
  a
• 46:47
  video
• 46:48
  of
• 46:48
  me
• 46:48
  in
• 46:49
  the
• 46:49
  field
• 46:49
  or
• 46:50
  doing
• 46:50
  something
• 46:50
  related
• 46:51
  to
• 46:51
  my
• 46:51
  work.
• 46:52
  And
• 46:52
  then
• 46:53
  the
• 46:53
  next
• 46:53
  post
• 46:54
  is
• 46:54
  going
• 46:54
  to
• 46:54
  be
• 46:54
  something
• 46:55
  about
• 46:56
  anxiety
• 46:56
  or
• 46:57
  executive
• 46:57
  function
• 46:58
  or
• 46:58
  the
• 46:58
  brain.
• 46:59
  And
• 46:59
  it'll
• 46:59
  just
• 47:00
  be
• 47:00
  maybe
• 47:00
  a
• 47:00
  quote
• 47:01
  or
• 47:01
  a
• 47:01
  quick
• 47:02
  trick
• 47:02
  or
• 47:02
  strategy
• 47:03
  or
• 47:03
  insight,
• 47:04
  something
• 47:05
  that
• 47:05
  hopefully
• 47:06
  could
• 47:06
  be
• 47:06
  helpful.
• 47:07
  Okay.
• 47:07
  That
• 47:07
  somebody
• 47:08
  might
• 47:08
  be
• 47:08
  like,
• 47:08
  oh,
• 47:09
  so
• 47:09
  say,
• 47:09
  for
• 47:10
  example,
• 47:10
  are
• 47:11
  you
• 47:11
  forming
• 47:11
  your
• 47:11
  habits
• 47:12
  or
• 47:12
  are
• 47:12
  your
• 47:12
  habits
• 47:13
  forming
• 47:13
  you
• 47:13
  something
• 47:14
  just
• 47:14
  as
• 47:14
  simple
• 47:15
  as
• 47:15
  that.
• 47:15
  Are
• 47:16
  you
• 47:16
  using
• 47:16
  that
• 47:17
  same
• 47:17
  strategy
• 47:17
  on
• 47:18
  LinkedIn?
• 47:19
  I
• 47:20
  do
• 47:21
  more
• 47:21
  or
• 47:21
  less,
• 47:22
  but
• 47:22
  I
• 47:22
  do
• 47:23
  the
• 47:23
  most
• 47:24
  posting
• 47:24
  on
• 47:24
  Instagram
• 47:25
  to
• 47:25
  a
• 47:25
  certain
• 47:25
  degree
• 47:26
  on
• 47:26
  LinkedIn
• 47:27
  and.
• 47:27
  And
• 47:27
  Facebook
• 47:28
  as
• 47:28
  well.
• 47:29
  But
• 47:29
  I
• 47:29
  find
• 47:30
  for
• 47:30
  me,
• 47:31
  Instagram
• 47:31
  is
• 47:32
  just
• 47:32
  easier.
• 47:33
  The
• 47:33
  reason
• 47:33
  I
• 47:33
  ask
• 47:34
  is
• 47:34
  because
• 47:35
  you
• 47:35
  have
• 47:35
  a
• 47:35
  business
• 47:36
  that
• 47:36
  you've
• 47:36
  developed
• 47:37
  with
• 47:38
  LinkedIn.
• 47:38
  A
• 47:39
  lot
• 47:39
  of
• 47:39
  people
• 47:39
  said
• 47:39
  to
• 47:40
  me
• 47:40
  when
• 47:40
  I
• 47:40
  first
• 47:40
  started
• 47:41
  this,
• 47:41
  again,
• 47:41
  because
• 47:42
  I
• 47:42
  come
• 47:42
  with
• 47:42
  from
• 47:43
  a
• 47:43
  business
• 47:43
  background,
• 47:44
  I
• 47:44
  was
• 47:44
  very
• 47:45
  familiar
• 47:45
  with
• 47:45
  LinkedIn.
• 47:46
  So
• 47:46
  that
• 47:47
  was
• 47:47
  my
• 47:47
  go
• 47:47
  to.
• 47:47
  And
• 47:48
  then
• 47:48
  I
• 47:48
  slowly
• 47:49
  started
• 47:49
  building
• 47:50
  Instagram
• 47:50
  and
• 47:50
  Facebook.
• 47:51
  What
• 47:52
  I
• 47:52
  found
• 47:52
  is
• 47:52
  someone
• 47:53
  put
• 47:53
  it
• 47:53
  in
• 47:53
  perspective
• 47:54
  for
• 47:55
  me.
• 47:55
  The
• 47:55
  guest
• 47:55
  I
• 47:56
  had
• 47:56
  on
• 47:56
  my
• 47:56
  show
• 47:57
  she
• 47:57
  said
• 47:58
  she
• 47:58
  found
• 47:58
  with
• 47:59
  Facebook
• 47:59
  and
• 47:59
  Instagram,
• 48:00
  she
• 48:01
  was
• 48:01
  actually
• 48:01
  talking
• 48:02
  to
• 48:02
  a
• 48:03
  lot
• 48:03
  of
• 48:05
  the
• 48:05
  same
• 48:05
  people
• 48:06
  in
• 48:06
  terms
• 48:06
  of
• 48:07
  children's
• 48:08
  book
• 48:08
  authors,
• 48:09
  which
• 48:09
  was
• 48:10
  great
• 48:10
  to
• 48:10
  have
• 48:10
  the
• 48:10
  support
• 48:11
  and
• 48:11
  they
• 48:11
  were
• 48:12
  a
• 48:12
  very
• 48:12
  supportive
• 48:13
  community.
• 48:14
  But
• 48:14
  she
• 48:14
  wasn't
• 48:15
  talking
• 48:15
  to
• 48:16
  her
• 48:17
  clients.
• 48:19
  And
• 48:19
  so
• 48:20
  she
• 48:20
  said
• 48:20
  to
• 48:21
  me,
• 48:22
  I
• 48:22
  don't
• 48:22
  know
• 48:22
  what
• 48:22
  to
• 48:23
  do.
• 48:23
  And
• 48:23
  I
• 48:23
  said,
• 48:23
  you
• 48:23
  know
• 48:23
  what,
• 48:24
  I'm
• 48:24
  on
• 48:24
  LinkedIn.
• 48:25
  And
• 48:25
  if
• 48:25
  you
• 48:26
  go
• 48:26
  to
• 48:26
  LinkedIn,
• 48:27
  there's
• 48:28
  a
• 48:28
  lot
• 48:28
  of
• 48:28
  teacher
• 48:29
  and
• 48:29
  principal
• 48:30
  groups
• 48:31
  and
• 48:31
  they're
• 48:32
  huge.
• 48:32
  I
• 48:33
  belong
• 48:33
  to
• 48:33
  one
• 48:33
  group
• 48:34
  that's
• 48:34
  over
• 48:34
  a
• 48:34
  hundred
• 48:35
  thousand
• 48:35
  principals
• 48:36
  and
• 48:36
  teachers.
• 48:37
  Now
• 48:37
  you're
• 48:37
  speaking
• 48:38
  to
• 48:38
  clients
• 48:40
  versus
• 48:40
  speaking
• 48:41
  to
• 48:41
  a
• 48:41
  like
• 48:42
  minded
• 48:43
  group
• 48:43
  of
• 48:44
  children's
• 48:44
  book
• 48:44
  authors.
• 48:45
  That's
• 48:46
  why
• 48:46
  I
• 48:46
  was
• 48:46
  curious
• 48:46
  about
• 48:46
  LinkedIn,
• 48:47
  because
• 48:47
  I'm
• 48:48
  trying
• 48:48
  to
• 48:50
  subtly
• 48:51
  suggest
• 48:52
  to
• 48:52
  other
• 48:52
  children's
• 48:53
  book
• 48:53
  authors,
• 48:54
  if
• 48:54
  you're
• 48:54
  going
• 48:55
  to
• 48:55
  build
• 48:55
  a
• 48:55
  curriculum,
• 48:56
  then
• 48:57
  you
• 48:57
  should
• 48:57
  be
• 48:58
  looking
• 48:58
  at
• 48:58
  LinkedIn
• 48:59
  as
• 48:59
  a
• 48:59
  potential
• 49:00
  place
• 49:01
  to
• 49:01
  start
• 49:01
  talking
• 49:02
  about
• 49:02
  your
• 49:02
  children's
• 49:03
  books.
• 49:04
  Absolutely.
• 49:05
  And
• 49:05
  you
• 49:05
  really
• 49:06
  bring
• 49:06
  up
• 49:06
  an
• 49:06
  excellent
• 49:07
  point.
• 49:08
  So
• 49:08
  I
• 49:09
  do
• 49:09
  that
• 49:10
  on
• 49:10
  LinkedIn
• 49:11
  and
• 49:12
  there
• 49:13
  are
• 49:13
  some
• 49:13
  posts
• 49:14
  that
• 49:14
  I
• 49:14
  sometimes
• 49:14
  feel
• 49:15
  just
• 49:16
  lend
• 49:16
  themselves
• 49:17
  better
• 49:17
  to
• 49:18
  Instagram
• 49:18
  to
• 49:19
  link
• 49:19
  than
• 49:19
  LinkedIn.
• 49:20
  So
• 49:20
  there
• 49:20
  are
• 49:21
  some
• 49:21
  that
• 49:21
  are
• 49:21
  on
• 49:22
  Instagram
• 49:22
  that
• 49:22
  aren't
• 49:23
  always
• 49:23
  on
• 49:23
  LinkedIn.
• 49:24
  But
• 49:24
  that
• 49:25
  is
• 49:25
  a
• 49:25
  great
• 49:25
  suggestion
• 49:26
  for
• 49:27
  LinkedIn
• 49:27
  and
• 49:27
  I
• 49:28
  have
• 49:29
  received
• 49:29
  work
• 49:30
  through
• 49:30
  LinkedIn
• 49:31
  from
• 49:31
  my
• 49:32
  post.
• 49:32
  Terrific,
• 49:33
  terrific.
• 49:33
  I
• 49:34
  love
• 49:34
  to
• 49:34
  hear
• 49:34
  that.
• 49:35
  Thank
• 49:35
  you
• 49:35
  for
• 49:35
  sharing
• 49:36
  that.
• 49:37
  Absolutely.
• 49:38
  Instagram,
• 49:39
  I
• 49:39
  find
• 49:40
  I
• 49:41
  have
• 49:41
  actually
• 49:41
  gotten
• 49:42
  work
• 49:42
  through
• 49:42
  Instagram
• 49:43
  as
• 49:43
  well.
• 49:44
  And
• 49:45
  for
• 49:45
  me,
• 49:46
  because
• 49:46
  of
• 49:47
  my
• 49:47
  business
• 49:47
  with
• 49:48
  teachers,
• 49:49
  counselors,
• 49:49
  parents,
• 49:51
  I
• 49:51
  have
• 49:52
  children's
• 49:52
  authors
• 49:53
  and
• 49:53
  other
• 49:53
  types
• 49:54
  of
• 49:54
  authors.
• 49:55
  I
• 49:55
  have
• 49:56
  a
• 49:56
  real
• 49:56
  hybrid
• 49:57
  of
• 49:57
  followers.
• 49:58
  Sometimes
• 49:59
  I
• 49:59
  am
• 49:59
  speaking
• 50:00
  to
• 50:01
  my
• 50:01
  clients
• 50:01
  and
• 50:02
  sometimes
• 50:02
  I'm
• 50:03
  speaking
• 50:03
  to
• 50:03
  other
• 50:03
  authors.
• 50:04
  It
• 50:04
  really
• 50:04
  depends.
• 50:05
  With
• 50:05
  the
• 50:06
  Instagram
• 50:07
  you
• 50:07
  have
• 50:07
  in
• 50:07
  your
• 50:08
  bio
• 50:08
  a
• 50:08
  link
• 50:08
  to
• 50:09
  your
• 50:09
  books.
• 50:10
  So
• 50:10
  you
• 50:10
  can
• 50:10
  always
• 50:11
  have
• 50:11
  that
• 50:11
  there.
• 50:12
  I
• 50:13
  like,
• 50:13
  I
• 50:13
  went
• 50:13
  to
• 50:14
  this
• 50:14
  kicking
• 50:15
  and
• 50:15
  screaming
• 50:15
  as
• 50:15
  well,
• 50:16
  the
• 50:16
  stories.
• 50:17
  I
• 50:18
  was
• 50:18
  like,
• 50:18
  what
• 50:18
  is
• 50:18
  the
• 50:19
  point
• 50:19
  of
• 50:19
  these
• 50:19
  stories?
• 50:21
  And
• 50:21
  so
• 50:22
  now
• 50:22
  I
• 50:22
  get
• 50:22
  it
• 50:22
  though.
• 50:23
  I
• 50:23
  really
• 50:24
  knew
• 50:25
  nothing
• 50:25
  about
• 50:25
  this
• 50:25
  whole
• 50:26
  social
• 50:26
  media
• 50:26
  world
• 50:28
  and
• 50:28
  I've
• 50:29
  learned
• 50:29
  a
• 50:29
  lot.
• 50:29
  I
• 50:30
  still
• 50:30
  have
• 50:30
  a
• 50:30
  lot
• 50:30
  more
• 50:30
  to
• 50:31
  learn.
• 50:31
  But
• 50:31
  when
• 50:32
  you
• 50:32
  do
• 50:32
  a
• 50:32
  story,
• 50:32
  as
• 50:33
  you
• 50:33
  probably
• 50:33
  know,
• 50:34
  you
• 50:34
  could
• 50:34
  put
• 50:35
  a
• 50:35
  link
• 50:35
  to
• 50:36
  your
• 50:36
  actual
• 50:36
  book
• 50:37
  right
• 50:37
  within
• 50:38
  the
• 50:38
  story
• 50:38
  and
• 50:39
  you
• 50:39
  could
• 50:39
  save
• 50:40
  that
• 50:40
  story
• 50:41
  if
• 50:41
  you
• 50:41
  want,
• 50:42
  into
• 50:42
  one
• 50:42
  of
• 50:42
  your
• 50:42
  highlights
• 50:43
  or
• 50:44
  that
• 50:44
  story
• 50:44
  could
• 50:44
  go
• 50:44
  away
• 50:45
  within
• 50:45
  24
• 50:45
  hours
• 50:47
  that
• 50:47
  I
• 50:47
  have
• 50:47
  found
• 50:48
  to
• 50:48
  be
• 50:49
  helpful.
• 50:49
  Then
• 50:50
  Facebook,
• 50:52
  I
• 50:52
  could
• 50:52
  definitely,
• 50:53
  I
• 50:53
  need
• 50:53
  to
• 50:54
  do
• 50:54
  more
• 50:54
  group
• 50:55
  work
• 50:55
  in
• 50:56
  that.
• 50:57
  So
• 50:57
  I
• 50:57
  would
• 50:57
  love
• 50:58
  to
• 50:58
  have
• 50:58
  somebody
• 50:59
  that
• 51:00
  could
• 51:00
  take
• 51:00
  care
• 51:00
  of
• 51:00
  that
• 51:01
  part
• 51:01
  for
• 51:02
  me.
• 51:02
  I
• 51:02
  can
• 51:02
  definitely
• 51:03
  see
• 51:03
  for
• 51:04
  you,
• 51:04
  especially
• 51:05
  as
• 51:06
  you
• 51:06
  build
• 51:06
  a
• 51:06
  Clientele
• 51:07
  where
• 51:08
  Facebook
• 51:08
  groups
• 51:09
  could
• 51:09
  serve
• 51:10
  you
• 51:10
  well.
• 51:11
  Yes.
• 51:12
  And
• 51:13
  I
• 51:13
  need
• 51:13
  to
• 51:13
  make
• 51:14
  that
• 51:14
  more
• 51:14
  of
• 51:14
  a
• 51:14
  priority.
• 51:15
  I'm
• 51:16
  at
• 51:16
  the
• 51:16
  point
• 51:16
  where,
• 51:17
  you
• 51:17
  know,
• 51:18
  I
• 51:18
  need
• 51:18
  to
• 51:20
  put
• 51:20
  somebody
• 51:20
  else
• 51:20
  in
• 51:21
  charge
• 51:21
  of
• 51:21
  that
• 51:21
  because
• 51:22
  there's
• 51:23
  so
• 51:23
  many
• 51:23
  balls
• 51:24
  I'm
• 51:24
  trying
• 51:24
  to
• 51:24
  keep
• 51:24
  in
• 51:25
  the
• 51:25
  air
• 51:25
  with.
• 51:26
  I
• 51:26
  am
• 51:26
  right.
• 51:26
  And
• 51:26
  it
• 51:26
  is.
• 51:27
  It's
• 51:27
  hard
• 51:27
  as
• 51:27
  a
• 51:28
  one
• 51:28
  person
• 51:28
  shop.
• 51:29
  Yes.
• 51:30
  To
• 51:30
  do
• 51:30
  all
• 51:31
  that
• 51:31
  for
• 51:31
  sure.
• 51:32
  It
• 51:32
  is,
• 51:33
  it
• 51:33
  is.
• 51:33
  And
• 51:33
  I
• 51:33
  love
• 51:34
  it
• 51:34
  all,
• 51:34
  but
• 51:34
  sometimes
• 51:35
  I'm
• 51:35
  like,
• 51:35
  okay,
• 51:35
  that's
• 51:36
  just
• 51:36
  going
• 51:36
  to
• 51:36
  have
• 51:36
  to
• 51:36
  go
• 51:36
  on
• 51:37
  the
• 51:37
  back
• 51:37
  burner
• 51:37
  for
• 51:38
  now.
• 51:38
  But
• 51:38
  it's
• 51:39
  a
• 51:39
  great
• 51:39
  recommendation,
• 51:40
  so
• 51:40
  I
• 51:40
  would
• 51:40
  say
• 51:41
  that.
• 51:41
  Thank
• 51:41
  you.
• 51:42
  Your
• 51:42
  listener
• 51:42
  would
• 51:43
  appreciate
• 51:43
  it.
• 51:43
  I
• 51:43
  want
• 51:43
  to
• 51:43
  talk
• 51:43
  to
• 51:44
  you
• 51:44
  about
• 51:45
  your
• 51:46
  children's
• 51:46
  authorship
• 51:47
  motivation.
• 51:49
  I
• 51:49
  know
• 51:49
  you
• 51:49
  talked
• 51:50
  about
• 51:50
  your
• 51:50
  young
• 51:50
  life
• 51:51
  as
• 51:51
  a
• 51:51
  child.
• 51:52
  Was
• 51:52
  there
• 51:53
  a
• 51:53
  specific
• 51:55
  person
• 51:55
  or
• 51:55
  event
• 51:56
  that
• 51:57
  really
• 51:58
  triggered
• 51:59
  you
• 51:59
  to
• 51:59
  finally
• 52:00
  take
• 52:00
  action
• 52:01
  in
• 52:01
  terms
• 52:01
  of
• 52:02
  becoming
• 52:02
  a
• 52:03
  children's
• 52:03
  book
• 52:03
  author?
• 52:04
  Two
• 52:05
  things
• 52:05
  come
• 52:05
  to
• 52:06
  mind.
• 52:07
  One
• 52:07
  of
• 52:07
  my
• 52:07
  sons
• 52:08
  was
• 52:08
  diagnosed
• 52:09
  with
• 52:09
  post
• 52:09
  concussion
• 52:10
  syndrome.
• 52:11
  That
• 52:11
  got
• 52:12
  me
• 52:12
  to
• 52:13
  a
• 52:14
  brain
• 52:14
  conference
• 52:14
  in
• 52:15
  Boston
• 52:16
  that
• 52:17
  I
• 52:17
  learned
• 52:18
  so
• 52:18
  much
• 52:18
  about
• 52:19
  the
• 52:19
  brain
• 52:21
  and
• 52:21
  how
• 52:22
  stress,
• 52:23
  but
• 52:23
  not
• 52:24
  just
• 52:24
  physical
• 52:25
  stress
• 52:25
  on
• 52:25
  the
• 52:25
  brain
• 52:25
  from,
• 52:26
  say,
• 52:26
  a
• 52:26
  concussion.
• 52:27
  It
• 52:27
  was
• 52:27
  talking
• 52:28
  about
• 52:28
  emotional
• 52:28
  stress.
• 52:29
  So
• 52:29
  how
• 52:30
  frustration,
• 52:31
  anger,
• 52:32
  anxiety
• 52:34
  and
• 52:35
  boredom
• 52:35
  and
• 52:35
  lack
• 52:36
  of
• 52:36
  relevance
• 52:36
  to
• 52:36
  what
• 52:36
  you're
• 52:37
  doing
• 52:37
  can
• 52:37
  be
• 52:38
  very
• 52:38
  stressful
• 52:38
  to
• 52:39
  the
• 52:39
  brain.
• 52:40
  And
• 52:40
  as
• 52:40
  a
• 52:40
  teacher,
• 52:41
  I
• 52:41
  was
• 52:41
  like,
• 52:41
  oh,
• 52:41
  my
• 52:41
  gosh,
• 52:43
  why
• 52:44
  haven't
• 52:44
  I
• 52:44
  ever
• 52:44
  heard
• 52:44
  this
• 52:45
  before?
• 52:46
  And
• 52:47
  the
• 52:47
  woman,
• 52:47
  her
• 52:47
  name's
• 52:48
  Judy
• 52:48
  Willis,
• 52:48
  she's
• 52:49
  a
• 52:49
  neurologist,
• 52:50
  and
• 52:50
  she
• 52:51
  said,
• 52:51
  what
• 52:51
  happens
• 52:52
  is
• 52:52
  when
• 52:52
  we
• 52:52
  get
• 52:52
  highly
• 52:53
  stressed,
• 52:53
  you
• 52:53
  hijack
• 52:54
  your
• 52:54
  executive
• 52:55
  function.
• 52:55
  And
• 52:56
  now
• 52:56
  this
• 52:56
  is
• 52:56
  gonna
• 52:57
  look
• 52:57
  like
• 52:57
  behavior
• 52:57
  issues
• 52:58
  in
• 52:58
  your
• 52:58
  classroom.
• 52:59
  So
• 52:59
  it
• 52:59
  could
• 52:59
  look
• 52:59
  like
• 53:00
  that
• 53:00
  kid
• 53:00
  I
• 53:00
  mentioned
• 53:01
  earlier
• 53:01
  whose
• 53:01
  head
• 53:02
  is
• 53:02
  down
• 53:02
  that's
• 53:02
  playing
• 53:03
  dead,
• 53:03
  or
• 53:04
  the
• 53:04
  kid
• 53:04
  who
• 53:05
  is
• 53:05
  acting
• 53:06
  out
• 53:06
  and
• 53:06
  throwing
• 53:07
  things
• 53:07
  or
• 53:07
  saying
• 53:07
  something
• 53:08
  nasty,
• 53:08
  or
• 53:09
  the
• 53:09
  kid
• 53:09
  that
• 53:09
  says,
• 53:10
  I
• 53:10
  have
• 53:10
  to
• 53:10
  go
• 53:10
  to
• 53:11
  the
• 53:11
  bathroom,
• 53:11
  and
• 53:11
  they've
• 53:11
  already
• 53:11
  gone
• 53:12
  to
• 53:12
  the
• 53:12
  bathroom
• 53:12
  three
• 53:12
  times
• 53:13
  in
• 53:13
  the
• 53:13
  class,
• 53:13
  or
• 53:14
  they're
• 53:14
  sharpening
• 53:14
  their
• 53:14
  pencil
• 53:15
  for
• 53:15
  the
• 53:15
  fifth
• 53:15
  time,
• 53:16
  and
• 53:16
  they're
• 53:16
  just
• 53:16
  looking
• 53:16
  for
• 53:17
  an
• 53:17
  excuse
• 53:17
  to
• 53:18
  not
• 53:18
  pay
• 53:19
  attention.
• 53:20
  So
• 53:21
  I
• 53:21
  was
• 53:21
  like,
• 53:21
  okay,
• 53:22
  wait
• 53:22
  a
• 53:22
  minute.
• 53:22
  This
• 53:22
  is
• 53:23
  new
• 53:23
  information
• 53:23
  that
• 53:24
  when
• 53:24
  I
• 53:24
  heard
• 53:24
  about
• 53:25
  what
• 53:25
  can
• 53:25
  happen
• 53:25
  with
• 53:26
  anxiety,
• 53:27
  that
• 53:27
  really
• 53:28
  resonated
• 53:29
  for
• 53:29
  me.
• 53:29
  And
• 53:29
  I
• 53:29
  thought,
• 53:29
  oh,
• 53:30
  that
• 53:30
  is
• 53:30
  what
• 53:31
  used
• 53:31
  to
• 53:31
  happen
• 53:31
  to
• 53:32
  me.
• 53:33
  So
• 53:33
  then
• 53:34
  the
• 53:34
  idea
• 53:34
  of
• 53:34
  really
• 53:35
  understanding
• 53:36
  it
• 53:36
  better,
• 53:36
  and
• 53:36
  then
• 53:37
  I
• 53:37
  became
• 53:37
  certified
• 53:38
  in
• 53:38
  anxiety.
• 53:38
  So
• 53:39
  I
• 53:39
  went
• 53:39
  and
• 53:40
  got
• 53:40
  some
• 53:40
  coursework
• 53:41
  in
• 53:41
  there,
• 53:42
  understood
• 53:43
  it
• 53:43
  better,
• 53:43
  did
• 53:44
  a
• 53:44
  lot
• 53:44
  of
• 53:44
  research,
• 53:45
  and
• 53:46
  then
• 53:46
  that
• 53:46
  eventually
• 53:47
  led
• 53:47
  to
• 53:47
  the
• 53:48
  book.
• 53:48
  That
• 53:49
  was
• 53:49
  definitely
• 53:50
  a
• 53:51
  pivotal
• 53:51
  moment.
• 53:52
  And
• 53:52
  then
• 53:52
  just
• 53:52
  thinking
• 53:53
  about
• 53:53
  moments
• 53:54
  in
• 53:54
  my
• 53:54
  life
• 53:55
  where
• 53:55
  I
• 53:56
  avoided
• 53:56
  things
• 53:57
  because
• 53:57
  I
• 53:58
  was
• 53:58
  Anxious.
• 53:59
  And
• 54:00
  I
• 54:01
  realized
• 54:02
  that
• 54:02
  I
• 54:03
  just
• 54:03
  wanted
• 54:03
  to
• 54:03
  stop
• 54:04
  the
• 54:04
  cycle,
• 54:04
  and
• 54:04
  I
• 54:05
  didn't
• 54:05
  want
• 54:05
  to
• 54:05
  model
• 54:05
  this
• 54:06
  for
• 54:06
  my
• 54:06
  kids
• 54:06
  or
• 54:06
  my
• 54:07
  grandkids.
• 54:08
  So
• 54:08
  I
• 54:09
  was
• 54:09
  really
• 54:09
  motivated
• 54:10
  to
• 54:10
  write
• 54:11
  the
• 54:11
  book
• 54:11
  to
• 54:11
  help
• 54:11
  kids,
• 54:12
  but
• 54:12
  also
• 54:13
  to
• 54:13
  help
• 54:13
  myself.
• 54:14
  That's
• 54:15
  fantastic.
• 54:16
  Yeah.
• 54:17
  I
• 54:17
  want
• 54:17
  to
• 54:17
  talk
• 54:17
  a
• 54:18
  little
• 54:18
  bit
• 54:18
  about
• 54:18
  character
• 54:19
  development,
• 54:19
  especially
• 54:20
  in
• 54:21
  abc
• 54:21
  Worry
• 54:22
  Free.
• 54:23
  And
• 54:23
  your
• 54:24
  main
• 54:24
  character
• 54:24
  is
• 54:25
  Max.
• 54:25
  With
• 54:26
  Max,
• 54:27
  I
• 54:27
  love
• 54:27
  how
• 54:27
  you've
• 54:28
  introduced
• 54:28
  a
• 54:29
  couple
• 54:29
  of
• 54:29
  good
• 54:29
  friends,
• 54:30
  a
• 54:31
  pet,
• 54:31
  which
• 54:32
  is
• 54:32
  Snuffy
• 54:32
  the
• 54:33
  dog,
• 54:33
  which
• 54:33
  is
• 54:33
  fun.
• 54:35
  And
• 54:35
  then
• 54:36
  I
• 54:36
  know
• 54:36
  you
• 54:37
  talked
• 54:37
  about
• 54:37
  having
• 54:37
  four
• 54:38
  sons,
• 54:38
  but
• 54:38
  in
• 54:38
  this
• 54:39
  particular
• 54:40
  story,
• 54:40
  there's
• 54:41
  two
• 54:41
  boys,
• 54:41
  which
• 54:41
  are
• 54:42
  brothers,
• 54:42
  and
• 54:43
  Chris,
• 54:43
  it's
• 54:43
  like
• 54:43
  he's
• 54:44
  probably
• 54:44
  about
• 54:44
  five
• 54:45
  years
• 54:45
  older
• 54:46
  than
• 54:46
  Max,
• 54:46
  I'm
• 54:47
  guessing.
• 54:47
  Talk
• 54:48
  to
• 54:48
  us
• 54:48
  about
• 54:49
  this
• 54:49
  whole
• 54:50
  character
• 54:51
  development
• 54:52
  and
• 54:54
  intertwining.
• 54:55
  A
• 54:56
  couple
• 54:56
  of
• 54:56
  good
• 54:56
  friends,
• 54:57
  a
• 54:57
  dog,
• 54:58
  and
• 54:59
  an
• 54:59
  older
• 54:59
  brother.
• 55:00
  I
• 55:00
  was
• 55:01
  trying
• 55:01
  to
• 55:01
  make
• 55:01
  it
• 55:01
  relatable,
• 55:02
  first
• 55:03
  of
• 55:03
  all,
• 55:03
  and
• 55:04
  approachable.
• 55:04
  That's
• 55:05
  one
• 55:05
  thing
• 55:05
  I
• 55:05
  love
• 55:06
  about
• 55:06
  children's
• 55:06
  books,
• 55:07
  is
• 55:07
  I
• 55:08
  feel
• 55:08
  it's
• 55:08
  a
• 55:08
  great
• 55:09
  way
• 55:09
  to
• 55:10
  tackle
• 55:10
  something
• 55:11
  complex
• 55:12
  or
• 55:12
  something
• 55:13
  hard
• 55:13
  to
• 55:13
  talk
• 55:13
  about
• 55:14
  sometimes,
• 55:14
  like
• 55:14
  anxiety,
• 55:15
  and
• 55:16
  try
• 55:16
  to
• 55:16
  simplify
• 55:17
  it
• 55:18
  and
• 55:18
  make
• 55:19
  it
• 55:19
  engaging
• 55:20
  and
• 55:20
  relatable.
• 55:21
  Max,
• 55:22
  one
• 55:22
  of
• 55:22
  my
• 55:22
  sons
• 55:23
  actually
• 55:23
  was
• 55:23
  stung
• 55:24
  by
• 55:24
  bees.
• 55:24
  So
• 55:25
  in
• 55:25
  the
• 55:25
  story,
• 55:25
  the
• 55:26
  character
• 55:26
  gets
• 55:27
  stung
• 55:27
  by
• 55:27
  bee
• 55:27
  while
• 55:28
  playing
• 55:28
  hide
• 55:28
  and
• 55:28
  seek.
• 55:29
  And
• 55:29
  that
• 55:29
  actually
• 55:30
  happened
• 55:30
  to
• 55:30
  Max,
• 55:31
  and
• 55:31
  he
• 55:31
  came
• 55:31
  into
• 55:32
  the
• 55:32
  house
• 55:33
  covered
• 55:33
  with
• 55:33
  bees.
• 55:34
  I
• 55:34
  didn't
• 55:34
  realize,
• 55:35
  like,
• 55:35
  underneath
• 55:35
  his
• 55:36
  shirt,
• 55:36
  there
• 55:37
  were
• 55:37
  all.
• 55:38
  All
• 55:38
  these
• 55:38
  bees,
• 55:39
  like,
• 55:39
  stinging
• 55:40
  him
• 55:40
  as
• 55:40
  I
• 55:40
  pulled
• 55:41
  his
• 55:41
  shirt
• 55:41
  off.
• 55:41
  Max
• 55:42
  is
• 55:42
  actually
• 55:42
  the
• 55:42
  name
• 55:43
  of
• 55:43
  your.
• 55:43
  One
• 55:43
  of
• 55:43
  your
• 55:44
  sons.
• 55:44
  Yes.
• 55:45
  Okay.
• 55:45
  Okay.
• 55:46
  Yes.
• 55:47
  Thanks
• 55:47
  for
• 55:47
  sharing
• 55:48
  that.
• 55:48
  That
• 55:49
  actually
• 55:49
  really
• 55:49
  happened.
• 55:50
  And
• 55:51
  then
• 55:51
  I
• 55:51
  thought,
• 55:51
  okay,
• 55:52
  I
• 55:52
  want
• 55:53
  the
• 55:53
  mom.
• 55:54
  So
• 55:54
  I
• 55:54
  was
• 55:54
  trying
• 55:54
  to
• 55:55
  incorporate
• 55:56
  through
• 55:56
  the
• 55:56
  dialogue
• 55:58
  things
• 55:59
  to
• 55:59
  say
• 55:59
  that
• 55:59
  are
• 56:00
  helpful
• 56:00
  during
• 56:00
  anxiety.
• 56:01
  So
• 56:01
  I
• 56:02
  was
• 56:02
  trying
• 56:02
  to
• 56:02
  be.
• 56:03
  This
• 56:03
  is
• 56:03
  the
• 56:04
  tough
• 56:04
  part.
• 56:04
  With
• 56:05
  a
• 56:05
  book
• 56:05
  like
• 56:05
  abc
• 56:06
  Worry
• 56:06
  Free,
• 56:06
  at
• 56:06
  least
• 56:07
  for
• 56:07
  me,
• 56:07
  I
• 56:07
  found
• 56:07
  it
• 56:07
  challenging,
• 56:08
  is
• 56:10
  trying
• 56:11
  to
• 56:11
  make
• 56:11
  it
• 56:11
  a
• 56:11
  teaching
• 56:12
  tool,
• 56:12
  but
• 56:12
  not
• 56:13
  too
• 56:13
  boring.
• 56:14
  Trying
• 56:15
  to
• 56:15
  make
• 56:15
  it
• 56:15
  engaging,
• 56:17
  but
• 56:17
  not
• 56:17
  so
• 56:18
  in
• 56:18
  your
• 56:18
  face
• 56:18
  that
• 56:19
  this
• 56:19
  is
• 56:19
  a
• 56:20
  teaching
• 56:20
  tool.
• 56:21
  I
• 56:21
  thought,
• 56:21
  okay,
• 56:23
  if
• 56:23
  I
• 56:23
  make
• 56:23
  the
• 56:24
  mom
• 56:24
  or
• 56:24
  the
• 56:24
  dad
• 56:25
  the
• 56:25
  only
• 56:26
  one
• 56:26
  that's
• 56:26
  going
• 56:27
  to
• 56:27
  teach
• 56:27
  Max
• 56:28
  this
• 56:28
  trick,
• 56:29
  a
• 56:30
  lot
• 56:30
  of
• 56:30
  kids
• 56:30
  would
• 56:31
  rather
• 56:31
  learn
• 56:31
  from
• 56:31
  a
• 56:31
  friend
• 56:32
  or
• 56:32
  from
• 56:33
  a
• 56:33
  sibling.
• 56:34
  So
• 56:34
  that's
• 56:35
  why
• 56:35
  I
• 56:36
  brought
• 56:36
  in
• 56:36
  Chris.
• 56:37
  And
• 56:38
  we
• 56:38
  do
• 56:38
  have
• 56:38
  a
• 56:39
  Chris
• 56:39
  as
• 56:39
  well.
• 56:40
  I
• 56:40
  decided
• 56:41
  Chris
• 56:41
  would
• 56:42
  come
• 56:42
  in
• 56:42
  and
• 56:43
  teach
• 56:43
  the
• 56:43
  trick,
• 56:44
  and
• 56:44
  I
• 56:45
  thought
• 56:45
  that
• 56:45
  it
• 56:45
  would
• 56:45
  be
• 56:45
  really
• 56:46
  impactful
• 56:47
  for
• 56:48
  Max
• 56:48
  to
• 56:48
  learn
• 56:49
  because
• 56:49
  Max
• 56:49
  really
• 56:50
  looks
• 56:50
  up
• 56:50
  to
• 56:50
  his
• 56:50
  older
• 56:51
  brother,
• 56:52
  and
• 56:52
  now
• 56:53
  he's
• 56:53
  going
• 56:53
  to
• 56:53
  learn.
• 56:53
  Oh,
• 56:54
  my
• 56:54
  gosh.
• 56:54
  You
• 56:55
  were
• 56:55
  once
• 56:55
  afraid
• 56:56
  of
• 56:56
  dogs,
• 56:56
  because
• 56:56
  Chris
• 56:57
  is
• 56:57
  going
• 56:57
  to
• 56:57
  reveal
• 56:57
  this
• 56:58
  to
• 56:59
  Max.
• 56:59
  When
• 56:59
  he's
• 56:59
  teaching
• 57:00
  him
• 57:00
  the
• 57:00
  ABC
• 57:01
  trick.
• 57:01
  And
• 57:02
  Max
• 57:02
  is
• 57:02
  mention
• 57:03
  again.
• 57:04
  Tell
• 57:04
  the
• 57:05
  audience
• 57:05
  again.
• 57:06
  Abc.
• 57:06
  What
• 57:07
  does
• 57:07
  it
• 57:07
  stand
• 57:07
  for?
• 57:08
  A
• 57:08
  is
• 57:08
  accept
• 57:09
  how
• 57:09
  you
• 57:09
  feel.
• 57:11
  B
• 57:11
  is
• 57:12
  breathe
• 57:12
  slow
• 57:13
  and
• 57:13
  deep.
• 57:14
  And
• 57:14
  C
• 57:14
  is
• 57:15
  change
• 57:15
  your
• 57:15
  thinking.
• 57:16
  Max
• 57:16
  learns
• 57:17
  the
• 57:17
  trick
• 57:17
  from
• 57:17
  Chris,
• 57:18
  realizes,
• 57:19
  oh,
• 57:19
  you
• 57:19
  dealt
• 57:20
  with
• 57:20
  some
• 57:20
  anxiety
• 57:20
  with
• 57:21
  a
• 57:21
  dog.
• 57:21
  Now,
• 57:22
  it
• 57:22
  doesn't
• 57:23
  have
• 57:23
  to
• 57:23
  be
• 57:23
  insects
• 57:24
  or
• 57:24
  animals.
• 57:25
  It
• 57:25
  could
• 57:25
  be
• 57:25
  anything.
• 57:26
  It
• 57:26
  could
• 57:26
  be
• 57:26
  going
• 57:26
  to
• 57:27
  school.
• 57:27
  It
• 57:27
  could
• 57:27
  be
• 57:27
  getting
• 57:28
  an
• 57:28
  elevator.
• 57:29
  It
• 57:29
  could
• 57:30
  be
• 57:30
  eating
• 57:30
  a
• 57:30
  new
• 57:30
  food.
• 57:31
  I
• 57:32
  preach
• 57:32
  my
• 57:33
  students
• 57:34
  and
• 57:34
  in
• 57:35
  the
• 57:35
  workshops
• 57:35
  that
• 57:37
  you
• 57:37
  don't
• 57:38
  just
• 57:38
  focus
• 57:38
  on
• 57:38
  this
• 57:39
  bee
• 57:39
  thing.
• 57:40
  Right.
• 57:40
  You
• 57:40
  can
• 57:40
  replace
• 57:41
  the
• 57:41
  bee
• 57:41
  for
• 57:42
  anything
• 57:42
  that.
• 57:42
  That
• 57:43
  you're
• 57:43
  anxious
• 57:44
  about.
• 57:44
  Then
• 57:45
  the
• 57:45
  strategy
• 57:45
  can
• 57:46
  work
• 57:46
  for
• 57:46
  any
• 57:46
  of
• 57:47
  those.
• 57:47
  Are
• 57:47
  Casey
• 57:48
  and
• 57:48
  Sam,
• 57:48
  your
• 57:49
  other
• 57:49
  two
• 57:49
  sons
• 57:50
  names?
• 57:51
  Casey
• 57:51
  is
• 57:52
  granddaughter.
• 57:53
  Okay.
• 57:54
  Yeah.
• 57:55
  And
• 57:55
  Snuffy.
• 57:56
  Some
• 57:57
  people
• 57:57
  call
• 57:57
  my
• 57:57
  husband
• 57:58
  Snuffy
• 57:59
  in
• 57:59
  there.
• 58:00
  And
• 58:01
  then,
• 58:01
  let's
• 58:02
  see,
• 58:02
  we
• 58:02
  have.
• 58:05
  And,
• 58:06
  yeah,
• 58:06
  no,
• 58:06
  I
• 58:06
  decided
• 58:07
  that.
• 58:07
  So
• 58:08
  I
• 58:08
  got
• 58:08
  Sam
• 58:09
  in
• 58:09
  there.
• 58:09
  He's
• 58:10
  representing
• 58:10
  another
• 58:10
  son
• 58:11
  who.
• 58:11
  Okay.
• 58:12
  And
• 58:12
  then
• 58:12
  Casey
• 58:13
  is
• 58:13
  representing
• 58:14
  the
• 58:15
  son
• 58:16
  who
• 58:16
  I
• 58:16
  wrote.
• 58:16
  Are
• 58:17
  you
• 58:17
  a
• 58:17
  bird
• 58:17
  like
• 58:18
  me
• 58:18
  with.
• 58:18
  Because
• 58:18
  it's
• 58:18
  his
• 58:19
  daughter.
• 58:19
  I
• 58:19
  was
• 58:20
  like,
• 58:20
  okay,
• 58:20
  I've
• 58:20
  represented
• 58:21
  that
• 58:21
  family.
• 58:22
  So
• 58:23
  I
• 58:23
  got
• 58:23
  everybody
• 58:24
  in
• 58:24
  there
• 58:24
  as
• 58:24
  best
• 58:24
  as
• 58:25
  I
• 58:25
  could.
• 58:26
  I
• 58:26
  love
• 58:26
  it.
• 58:28
  And
• 58:28
  that's
• 58:28
  what
• 58:28
  I
• 58:29
  find
• 58:29
  with
• 58:29
  a
• 58:29
  lot
• 58:29
  of
• 58:30
  children's
• 58:30
  book
• 58:30
  authors,
• 58:31
  is
• 58:31
  somehow,
• 58:32
  some
• 58:32
  way,
• 58:32
  they.
• 58:33
  Everybody
• 58:34
  sneaks
• 58:34
  in
• 58:35
  there.
• 58:35
  Yeah.
• 58:36
  Yes.
• 58:37
  And
• 58:37
  even
• 58:37
  when
• 58:38
  I
• 58:38
  went
• 58:38
  to
• 58:38
  my
• 58:38
  grandchildren,
• 58:40
  Kira,
• 58:41
  we.
• 58:41
  You'll
• 58:41
  notice
• 58:42
  we
• 58:42
  spell
• 58:42
  caboose
• 58:43
  with
• 58:43
  a
• 58:43
  K.
• 58:44
  And
• 58:45
  it's
• 58:45
  because
• 58:45
  if
• 58:46
  the
• 58:46
  K
• 58:46
  stands
• 58:46
  for
• 58:46
  Kira,
• 58:47
  I
• 58:48
  love
• 58:48
  it.
• 58:48
  And
• 58:49
  of
• 58:49
  course,
• 58:49
  in
• 58:49
  our
• 58:50
  second
• 58:50
  book,
• 58:50
  Bailey
• 58:51
  is
• 58:52
  the
• 58:52
  beaver,
• 58:53
  and
• 58:53
  she
• 58:53
  picked
• 58:54
  the
• 58:54
  beaver
• 58:54
  as
• 58:55
  the
• 58:55
  animal
• 58:55
  because
• 58:55
  we
• 58:56
  tried
• 58:56
  to
• 58:56
  find
• 58:57
  animals
• 58:57
  that
• 58:58
  lived
• 58:58
  in
• 58:59
  the
• 58:59
  Rocky
• 58:59
  Mountains,
• 59:00
  and
• 59:00
  she
• 59:01
  became
• 59:01
  the
• 59:01
  beaver.
• 59:02
  And
• 59:02
  my
• 59:02
  other
• 59:03
  three
• 59:03
  grandchildren
• 59:04
  are.
• 59:04
  Their
• 59:04
  actual
• 59:05
  names
• 59:05
  are
• 59:05
  the
• 59:06
  name
• 59:06
  of
• 59:06
  their
• 59:06
  characters,
• 59:07
  and
• 59:08
  they've
• 59:08
  chosen
• 59:09
  their
• 59:09
  own.
• 59:10
  I
• 59:10
  love
• 59:10
  that.
• 59:11
  And
• 59:11
  we
• 59:11
  have
• 59:11
  some
• 59:11
  friends
• 59:12
  from
• 59:12
  Portland,
• 59:13
  Oregon,
• 59:13
  Linda,
• 59:14
  Tom.
• 59:14
  And
• 59:14
  they're
• 59:15
  actually
• 59:15
  characters
• 59:15
  in
• 59:16
  our
• 59:16
  second
• 59:16
  book.
• 59:17
  And
• 59:17
  they
• 59:17
  got
• 59:17
  to
• 59:18
  pick
• 59:18
  their
• 59:18
  characters,
• 59:18
  but
• 59:19
  they
• 59:19
  had
• 59:19
  to
• 59:19
  be
• 59:19
  from
• 59:19
  Oregon
• 59:20
  State,
• 59:21
  animals
• 59:21
  from
• 59:21
  Oregon
• 59:22
  State,
• 59:22
  and
• 59:23
  they
• 59:23
  got
• 59:23
  to
• 59:23
  be
• 59:23
  in
• 59:23
  the
• 59:23
  second
• 59:24
  book.
• 59:24
  So
• 59:25
  there
• 59:25
  you
• 59:25
  go.
• 59:25
  How
• 59:25
  cool
• 59:26
  is
• 59:26
  that?
• 59:26
  So
• 59:27
  literary
• 59:27
  license,
• 59:28
  you
• 59:28
  can
• 59:28
  do
• 59:28
  whatever
• 59:29
  you
• 59:29
  like.
• 59:29
  You
• 59:29
  can.
• 59:30
  Just
• 59:30
  to
• 59:31
  wrap
• 59:31
  up
• 59:31
  about
• 59:31
  the
• 59:31
  development,
• 59:32
  wanted
• 59:32
  to
• 59:32
  show
• 59:33
  that
• 59:34
  this
• 59:34
  character
• 59:35
  had
• 59:35
  made
• 59:36
  a
• 59:36
  transformation
• 59:37
  and
• 59:37
  was
• 59:37
  open
• 59:38
  to
• 59:39
  learning
• 59:40
  and
• 59:40
  trying
• 59:41
  something
• 59:41
  new
• 59:41
  and
• 59:42
  practicing
• 59:42
  it.
• 59:42
  The
• 59:43
  character
• 59:43
  starts
• 59:44
  off
• 59:44
  being
• 59:46
  pretty
• 59:46
  happy
• 59:46
  because
• 59:47
  he's
• 59:47
  playing
• 59:47
  hide
• 59:47
  and
• 59:47
  seek.
• 59:47
  Then
• 59:48
  he
• 59:48
  gets
• 59:48
  stung.
• 59:48
  He's
• 59:48
  obviously
• 59:49
  very
• 59:49
  upset.
• 59:50
  Then
• 59:50
  he
• 59:50
  gets
• 59:51
  very
• 59:51
  rigid,
• 59:52
  inflexible.
• 59:54
  And
• 59:54
  that's
• 59:54
  very
• 59:55
  common
• 59:55
  with
• 59:55
  anxiety.
• 59:56
  So
• 59:56
  I
• 59:56
  was
• 59:56
  trying
• 59:57
  to
• 59:57
  show
• 59:57
  through
• 59:57
  the
• 59:57
  character
• 59:59
  Those
• 59:59
  traits
• 59:59
  that
• 1:00:00
  are
• 1:00:00
  very
• 1:00:00
  common
• 1:00:00
  and
• 1:00:00
  of
• 1:00:01
  course
• 1:00:01
  he
• 1:00:01
  wants
• 1:00:01
  to
• 1:00:02
  avoid.
• 1:00:03
  That's
• 1:00:03
  a
• 1:00:04
  huge
• 1:00:04
  trademark
• 1:00:05
  of
• 1:00:05
  anxiety
• 1:00:06
  is
• 1:00:06
  avoidance.
• 1:00:07
  So
• 1:00:07
  he's
• 1:00:07
  avoiding.
• 1:00:08
  He's
• 1:00:08
  not
• 1:00:08
  going
• 1:00:08
  outside.
• 1:00:09
  He
• 1:00:09
  doesn't
• 1:00:09
  want
• 1:00:10
  to
• 1:00:10
  play
• 1:00:10
  with
• 1:00:10
  his
• 1:00:10
  friends.
• 1:00:10
  He's
• 1:00:11
  afraid
• 1:00:11
  he'll
• 1:00:11
  get
• 1:00:11
  stung
• 1:00:12
  by
• 1:00:12
  a
• 1:00:12
  bee
• 1:00:12
  again.
• 1:00:13
  So
• 1:00:13
  he's
• 1:00:14
  really
• 1:00:14
  digging
• 1:00:14
  in
• 1:00:14
  his
• 1:00:15
  heels
• 1:00:15
  and
• 1:00:15
  his
• 1:00:15
  world
• 1:00:16
  gets
• 1:00:16
  very
• 1:00:16
  small
• 1:00:17
  and
• 1:00:17
  he's
• 1:00:17
  miserable.
• 1:00:18
  We
• 1:00:19
  finally
• 1:00:19
  get
• 1:00:19
  to
• 1:00:19
  the
• 1:00:20
  point
• 1:00:20
  where
• 1:00:20
  he's
• 1:00:20
  open
• 1:00:20
  to
• 1:00:21
  learning
• 1:00:21
  something
• 1:00:21
  new,
• 1:00:22
  and
• 1:00:22
  then
• 1:00:22
  he
• 1:00:23
  practices
• 1:00:23
  it,
• 1:00:24
  and
• 1:00:24
  then
• 1:00:24
  he's
• 1:00:24
  able
• 1:00:25
  to
• 1:00:25
  enjoy
• 1:00:26
  his
• 1:00:26
  life
• 1:00:26
  again
• 1:00:26
  and
• 1:00:27
  get
• 1:00:27
  back
• 1:00:27
  out
• 1:00:27
  with
• 1:00:27
  his
• 1:00:28
  friends.
• 1:00:29
  He
• 1:00:29
  does
• 1:00:29
  really
• 1:00:29
  develop.
• 1:00:30
  And
• 1:00:30
  I
• 1:00:30
  love
• 1:00:30
  that
• 1:00:30
  how
• 1:00:30
  you
• 1:00:31
  use
• 1:00:31
  Snuffy
• 1:00:32
  and
• 1:00:32
  that
• 1:00:32
  whole.
• 1:00:33
  It's
• 1:00:34
  fantastic.
• 1:00:35
  Thank
• 1:00:35
  you.
• 1:00:36
  The
• 1:00:36
  one
• 1:00:36
  thing
• 1:00:36
  I
• 1:00:37
  wanted
• 1:00:37
  to
• 1:00:37
  tell
• 1:00:37
  everybody
• 1:00:38
  about,
• 1:00:38
  too,
• 1:00:38
  at
• 1:00:39
  the
• 1:00:39
  end
• 1:00:39
  of
• 1:00:39
  the
• 1:00:39
  book,
• 1:00:40
  you
• 1:00:41
  have
• 1:00:41
  what
• 1:00:41
  you
• 1:00:41
  call
• 1:00:42
  a
• 1:00:42
  tips
• 1:00:43
  page,
• 1:00:43
  tips
• 1:00:44
  for
• 1:00:44
  parents
• 1:00:44
  and
• 1:00:45
  educators.
• 1:00:46
  Explain
• 1:00:48
  why
• 1:00:48
  you
• 1:00:49
  did
• 1:00:49
  this.
• 1:00:49
  And
• 1:00:50
  have
• 1:00:50
  you
• 1:00:50
  had
• 1:00:50
  any
• 1:00:51
  feedback
• 1:00:51
  from
• 1:00:52
  parents
• 1:00:52
  or
• 1:00:52
  teachers
• 1:00:53
  when
• 1:00:53
  they
• 1:00:53
  got
• 1:00:53
  to
• 1:00:54
  that
• 1:00:54
  part
• 1:00:54
  of
• 1:00:54
  the
• 1:00:54
  book?
• 1:00:56
  Yeah,
• 1:00:56
  I
• 1:00:56
  wanted
• 1:00:57
  that
• 1:00:57
  to
• 1:00:57
  be
• 1:00:58
  like
• 1:00:58
  a
• 1:00:58
  little
• 1:00:59
  bonus.
• 1:00:59
  And
• 1:00:59
  actually,
• 1:01:00
  that
• 1:01:00
  is
• 1:01:00
  something
• 1:01:01
  that
• 1:01:01
  the
• 1:01:01
  national
• 1:01:01
  center
• 1:01:02
  for
• 1:01:02
  Youth
• 1:01:02
  Issues
• 1:01:03
  often
• 1:01:03
  does
• 1:01:04
  with
• 1:01:04
  books
• 1:01:05
  of
• 1:01:05
  this
• 1:01:05
  nature
• 1:01:06
  that
• 1:01:06
  are
• 1:01:06
  teaching
• 1:01:07
  tools.
• 1:01:08
  So
• 1:01:08
  you
• 1:01:08
  have
• 1:01:08
  to
• 1:01:08
  recap
• 1:01:09
  it.
• 1:01:10
  They
• 1:01:10
  have
• 1:01:10
  a
• 1:01:10
  page
• 1:01:11
  in
• 1:01:11
  the
• 1:01:11
  back
• 1:01:11
  that's
• 1:01:12
  supposed
• 1:01:12
  to
• 1:01:12
  be
• 1:01:12
  like.
• 1:01:13
  In
• 1:01:13
  some
• 1:01:13
  ways,
• 1:01:13
  you
• 1:01:14
  can
• 1:01:14
  consider
• 1:01:14
  it
• 1:01:14
  like
• 1:01:15
  a
• 1:01:15
  little
• 1:01:15
  cheat
• 1:01:15
  sheet
• 1:01:16
  or
• 1:01:16
  a
• 1:01:16
  quick
• 1:01:16
  guide.
• 1:01:17
  Because
• 1:01:17
  I
• 1:01:17
  think
• 1:01:18
  that
• 1:01:18
  I
• 1:01:18
  can
• 1:01:19
  only
• 1:01:19
  speak,
• 1:01:19
  say,
• 1:01:19
  for
• 1:01:20
  example,
• 1:01:20
  with
• 1:01:20
  anxiety,
• 1:01:21
  there's
• 1:01:21
  a
• 1:01:21
  lot
• 1:01:22
  of
• 1:01:22
  misinformation
• 1:01:22
  out
• 1:01:23
  there.
• 1:01:23
  And
• 1:01:23
  a
• 1:01:24
  lot
• 1:01:24
  of
• 1:01:24
  times
• 1:01:25
  I
• 1:01:25
  think
• 1:01:25
  that
• 1:01:26
  some
• 1:01:27
  parents
• 1:01:27
  think
• 1:01:28
  they're
• 1:01:28
  doing
• 1:01:28
  the
• 1:01:28
  loving
• 1:01:29
  kind
• 1:01:29
  thing
• 1:01:30
  by
• 1:01:30
  helping
• 1:01:30
  kids
• 1:01:30
  avoid
• 1:01:31
  things
• 1:01:31
  that
• 1:01:32
  are
• 1:01:32
  hard,
• 1:01:32
  let's
• 1:01:33
  say
• 1:01:33
  going
• 1:01:33
  to
• 1:01:33
  school.
• 1:01:34
  And
• 1:01:35
  you
• 1:01:35
  think
• 1:01:35
  that's
• 1:01:36
  the
• 1:01:36
  right
• 1:01:36
  thing
• 1:01:36
  to
• 1:01:36
  do
• 1:01:36
  is
• 1:01:36
  to
• 1:01:37
  help
• 1:01:37
  that
• 1:01:37
  child
• 1:01:37
  avoid
• 1:01:38
  that
• 1:01:38
  thing.
• 1:01:38
  That's
• 1:01:39
  hard.
• 1:01:39
  But
• 1:01:39
  in
• 1:01:39
  the
• 1:01:40
  long
• 1:01:40
  run,
• 1:01:40
  it
• 1:01:40
  could
• 1:01:40
  make
• 1:01:41
  things
• 1:01:41
  worse.
• 1:01:42
  Just
• 1:01:42
  trying
• 1:01:42
  to
• 1:01:42
  give
• 1:01:42
  them
• 1:01:43
  some
• 1:01:43
  quick
• 1:01:44
  language,
• 1:01:44
  some
• 1:01:44
  practical
• 1:01:45
  language,
• 1:01:46
  some
• 1:01:46
  practical
• 1:01:47
  quick
• 1:01:47
  do's
• 1:01:47
  and
• 1:01:47
  don'ts,
• 1:01:48
  so
• 1:01:48
  that
• 1:01:49
  they
• 1:01:49
  feel
• 1:01:49
  a
• 1:01:49
  little
• 1:01:50
  more
• 1:01:50
  supported.
• 1:01:50
  Talk
• 1:01:51
  a
• 1:01:51
  little
• 1:01:51
  bit
• 1:01:51
  about
• 1:01:51
  your
• 1:01:52
  writing
• 1:01:52
  process,
• 1:01:53
  because
• 1:01:53
  I
• 1:01:53
  know
• 1:01:53
  you
• 1:01:54
  mentioned
• 1:01:54
  maybe
• 1:01:55
  there
• 1:01:56
  might
• 1:01:56
  be
• 1:01:56
  another
• 1:01:56
  book
• 1:01:57
  in
• 1:01:57
  there,
• 1:01:57
  but
• 1:01:57
  you're
• 1:01:57
  not
• 1:01:57
  sure.
• 1:01:58
  But
• 1:01:58
  talk
• 1:01:59
  to
• 1:01:59
  us
• 1:01:59
  about,
• 1:02:01
  even
• 1:02:01
  for
• 1:02:01
  your
• 1:02:01
  business,
• 1:02:03
  what's
• 1:02:03
  your
• 1:02:03
  writing
• 1:02:04
  process
• 1:02:04
  look
• 1:02:05
  like?
• 1:02:06
  It's
• 1:02:06
  a
• 1:02:06
  lot
• 1:02:07
  of
• 1:02:07
  thinking
• 1:02:07
  and
• 1:02:07
  planning.
• 1:02:09
  And
• 1:02:09
  that's
• 1:02:09
  probably
• 1:02:10
  one
• 1:02:10
  of
• 1:02:10
  the
• 1:02:10
  biggest
• 1:02:11
  chunks
• 1:02:11
  of
• 1:02:11
  time,
• 1:02:12
  is
• 1:02:12
  thinking
• 1:02:12
  and
• 1:02:12
  planning
• 1:02:13
  and
• 1:02:13
  then
• 1:02:13
  actually
• 1:02:13
  sitting
• 1:02:14
  down
• 1:02:14
  to
• 1:02:14
  write.
• 1:02:15
  And
• 1:02:15
  then
• 1:02:16
  I
• 1:02:16
  am
• 1:02:17
  definitely
• 1:02:17
  a
• 1:02:17
  big
• 1:02:18
  reviser.
• 1:02:19
  I
• 1:02:19
  spend
• 1:02:19
  a
• 1:02:19
  lot
• 1:02:20
  of
• 1:02:20
  time
• 1:02:20
  revising.
• 1:02:21
  Okay.
• 1:02:22
  And
• 1:02:22
  what
• 1:02:22
  about
• 1:02:23
  research?
• 1:02:24
  A
• 1:02:25
  lot
• 1:02:25
  of
• 1:02:25
  research.
• 1:02:25
  Okay.
• 1:02:26
  Because
• 1:02:26
  of
• 1:02:26
  the
• 1:02:27
  nature
• 1:02:27
  of
• 1:02:27
  my
• 1:02:27
  books.
• 1:02:28
  Anxiety
• 1:02:29
  requires
• 1:02:30
  research.
• 1:02:30
  You
• 1:02:30
  want
• 1:02:30
  to
• 1:02:31
  make
• 1:02:31
  sure
• 1:02:31
  you're
• 1:02:31
  giving
• 1:02:32
  them
• 1:02:32
  parents
• 1:02:32
  and
• 1:02:33
  kids
• 1:02:33
  and
• 1:02:33
  teachers
• 1:02:33
  and
• 1:02:34
  counselors
• 1:02:34
  tools
• 1:02:35
  that
• 1:02:35
  are
• 1:02:36
  based
• 1:02:36
  on
• 1:02:36
  research.
• 1:02:37
  So
• 1:02:37
  a
• 1:02:38
  lot
• 1:02:38
  of
• 1:02:38
  research
• 1:02:39
  and
• 1:02:41
  a
• 1:02:41
  lot
• 1:02:41
  of
• 1:02:41
  reading.
• 1:02:42
  And
• 1:02:43
  then
• 1:02:43
  obviously
• 1:02:44
  you
• 1:02:44
  do
• 1:02:44
  some
• 1:02:45
  reading
• 1:02:45
  of
• 1:02:45
  what's
• 1:02:45
  already
• 1:02:46
  out
• 1:02:46
  there
• 1:02:47
  on
• 1:02:47
  the
• 1:02:47
  subject.
• 1:02:48
  What
• 1:02:49
  can
• 1:02:49
  I
• 1:02:49
  offer
• 1:02:50
  that
• 1:02:50
  hasn't
• 1:02:50
  been
• 1:02:50
  done
• 1:02:51
  that
• 1:02:51
  could
• 1:02:52
  be
• 1:02:52
  helpful?
• 1:02:52
  Are
• 1:02:53
  you
• 1:02:53
  constantly
• 1:02:54
  changing
• 1:02:54
  your
• 1:02:54
  curriculum
• 1:02:55
  or
• 1:02:55
  your
• 1:02:56
  content
• 1:02:57
  through
• 1:02:57
  I
• 1:02:58
  forgot
• 1:02:58
  how
• 1:02:59
  many
• 1:02:59
  workshops
• 1:03:00
  you
• 1:03:00
  have
• 1:03:00
  on
• 1:03:01
  your
• 1:03:01
  website.
• 1:03:01
  How
• 1:03:01
  many
• 1:03:02
  do
• 1:03:02
  you
• 1:03:02
  have?
• 1:03:03
  Oh,
• 1:03:03
  I
• 1:03:03
  think
• 1:03:04
  there's
• 1:03:04
  probably
• 1:03:04
  about
• 1:03:04
  five
• 1:03:05
  up
• 1:03:05
  there.
• 1:03:05
  I
• 1:03:05
  am
• 1:03:06
  constantly
• 1:03:07
  changing
• 1:03:07
  them,
• 1:03:08
  but
• 1:03:08
  there
• 1:03:08
  are
• 1:03:08
  some
• 1:03:09
  that
• 1:03:09
  are
• 1:03:09
  more
• 1:03:09
  popular.
• 1:03:10
  For
• 1:03:10
  example,
• 1:03:11
  the
• 1:03:11
  one
• 1:03:11
  on
• 1:03:11
  anxiety
• 1:03:12
  is
• 1:03:13
  very
• 1:03:13
  popular
• 1:03:13
  and
• 1:03:14
  the
• 1:03:14
  one
• 1:03:14
  on
• 1:03:14
  executive
• 1:03:15
  function
• 1:03:16
  is
• 1:03:16
  very
• 1:03:16
  popular
• 1:03:17
  during
• 1:03:17
  COVID
• 1:03:18
  I
• 1:03:18
  did
• 1:03:18
  one
• 1:03:18
  on
• 1:03:19
  stress
• 1:03:19
  management
• 1:03:20
  that
• 1:03:20
  was
• 1:03:20
  very
• 1:03:21
  popular
• 1:03:22
  during
• 1:03:22
  COVID
• 1:03:23
  As
• 1:03:23
  far
• 1:03:24
  as
• 1:03:24
  like
• 1:03:24
  a
• 1:03:25
  time
• 1:03:25
  that
• 1:03:25
  I
• 1:03:25
  set
• 1:03:26
  aside,
• 1:03:27
  I'd
• 1:03:27
  be
• 1:03:28
  lying
• 1:03:28
  to
• 1:03:28
  you
• 1:03:28
  if
• 1:03:29
  I
• 1:03:29
  said,
• 1:03:29
  oh
• 1:03:30
  yeah,
• 1:03:30
  I'm
• 1:03:31
  up
• 1:03:31
  writing
• 1:03:31
  at
• 1:03:31
  5:30
• 1:03:32
  every
• 1:03:32
  morning.
• 1:03:33
  No,
• 1:03:34
  I'm
• 1:03:35
  right
• 1:03:35
  when
• 1:03:35
  I
• 1:03:36
  can
• 1:03:36
  find
• 1:03:36
  time.
• 1:03:37
  So
• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:38
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• 1:03:38
  I
• 1:03:39
  can
• 1:03:39
  find
• 1:03:39
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• 1:03:39
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• 1:03:40
  of
• 1:03:40
  time,
• 1:03:40
  I
• 1:03:41
  do
• 1:03:41
  it.
• 1:03:42
  And
• 1:03:43
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:44
  may
• 1:03:45
  maybe
• 1:03:45
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:46
  half
• 1:03:46
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• 1:03:47
  but
• 1:03:47
  I'm
• 1:03:47
  okay
• 1:03:47
  with
• 1:03:48
  that.
• 1:03:48
  There
• 1:03:49
  are
• 1:03:49
  days
• 1:03:49
  you
• 1:03:49
  feel
• 1:03:49
  like
• 1:03:50
  you
• 1:03:50
  didn't
• 1:03:50
  really
• 1:03:50
  move
• 1:03:51
  forward,
• 1:03:51
  but
• 1:03:51
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• 1:03:52
  you
• 1:03:52
  look
• 1:03:52
  back
• 1:03:52
  you
• 1:03:53
  realize
• 1:03:53
  that
• 1:03:53
  day
• 1:03:54
  was
• 1:03:54
  important.
• 1:03:55
  Whether
• 1:03:56
  it
• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:57
  you
• 1:03:57
  came
• 1:03:57
  up
• 1:03:57
  with
• 1:03:57
  a
• 1:03:58
  different
• 1:03:58
  idea
• 1:03:58
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• 1:03:58
  maybe
• 1:03:59
  didn't
• 1:03:59
  write
• 1:03:59
  one
• 1:04:00
  different
• 1:04:00
  word,
• 1:04:01
  but
• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:01
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• 1:04:02
  you
• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:02
  the
• 1:04:02
  next
• 1:04:02
  step.
• 1:04:03
  I
• 1:04:03
  do
• 1:04:04
  a
• 1:04:04
  lot
• 1:04:04
  of
• 1:04:06
  bouncing
• 1:04:06
  ideas
• 1:04:07
  off
• 1:04:07
  to
• 1:04:07
  my
• 1:04:07
  sons,
• 1:04:08
  especially
• 1:04:08
  the
• 1:04:08
  one
• 1:04:08
  that
• 1:04:09
  wrote
• 1:04:09
  are
• 1:04:09
  you
• 1:04:09
  a
• 1:04:09
  bird
• 1:04:09
  like
• 1:04:10
  me?
• 1:04:10
  He's
• 1:04:11
  super
• 1:04:11
  helpful
• 1:04:12
  with
• 1:04:12
  editing
• 1:04:14
  and
• 1:04:15
  language.
• 1:04:16
  My
• 1:04:16
  books,
• 1:04:17
  I
• 1:04:17
  feel
• 1:04:17
  it's
• 1:04:17
  great
• 1:04:18
  to
• 1:04:18
  get
• 1:04:18
  feedback.
• 1:04:19
  So
• 1:04:19
  I
• 1:04:20
  do
• 1:04:20
  put
• 1:04:20
  them
• 1:04:20
  out
• 1:04:20
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• 1:04:21
  to
• 1:04:21
  teachers
• 1:04:21
  and
• 1:04:22
  friends.
• 1:04:23
  I'll
• 1:04:23
  ask
• 1:04:23
  for
• 1:04:23
  feedback.
• 1:04:24
  So
• 1:04:24
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• 1:04:24
  parents,
• 1:04:25
  counselors,
• 1:04:25
  teachers,
• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:27
  them
• 1:04:27
  for
• 1:04:27
  feedback.
• 1:04:28
  I'm
• 1:04:28
  going
• 1:04:28
  to
• 1:04:29
  get
• 1:04:29
  you
• 1:04:29
  to
• 1:04:29
  do
• 1:04:29
  a
• 1:04:29
  little
• 1:04:30
  journey
• 1:04:30
  back.
• 1:04:31
  We're
• 1:04:32
  going
• 1:04:32
  to
• 1:04:32
  go
• 1:04:32
  back
• 1:04:32
  in
• 1:04:33
  time
• 1:04:33
  because
• 1:04:34
  I
• 1:04:34
  want
• 1:04:34
  to
• 1:04:34
  talk
• 1:04:34
  to
• 1:04:35
  you
• 1:04:35
  about
• 1:04:35
  success
• 1:04:36
  measurement.
• 1:04:37
  I
• 1:04:37
  want
• 1:04:37
  you
• 1:04:37
  to
• 1:04:37
  go
• 1:04:38
  back
• 1:04:38
  and
• 1:04:38
  think
• 1:04:38
  about
• 1:04:39
  because
• 1:04:39
  of
• 1:04:40
  the
• 1:04:40
  way
• 1:04:40
  you've
• 1:04:41
  approached
• 1:04:41
  this
• 1:04:41
  in
• 1:04:41
  terms
• 1:04:42
  of
• 1:04:42
  your
• 1:04:42
  publishing.
• 1:04:43
  Talk
• 1:04:43
  to
• 1:04:43
  us
• 1:04:43
  about
• 1:04:44
  how
• 1:04:45
  you
• 1:04:45
  had
• 1:04:45
  envisioned
• 1:04:46
  success
• 1:04:46
  with
• 1:04:47
  your
• 1:04:47
  first
• 1:04:47
  book.
• 1:04:48
  And
• 1:04:49
  once
• 1:04:49
  you
• 1:04:49
  got
• 1:04:50
  going,
• 1:04:51
  how
• 1:04:51
  did
• 1:04:51
  that
• 1:04:51
  success.
• 1:04:52
  Success,
• 1:04:53
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• 1:04:53
  you
• 1:04:53
  look
• 1:04:53
  back
• 1:04:54
  at
• 1:04:54
  how
• 1:04:54
  you
• 1:04:54
  thought
• 1:04:54
  it
• 1:04:55
  would
• 1:04:55
  go
• 1:04:55
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• 1:04:55
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• 1:04:55
  it
• 1:04:56
  actually
• 1:04:56
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:04:57
  us
• 1:04:57
  about
• 1:04:57
  that.
• 1:04:59
  I
• 1:04:59
  think
• 1:05:00
  I
• 1:05:00
  was
• 1:05:00
  naive.
• 1:05:02
  Once
• 1:05:02
  I
• 1:05:03
  got
• 1:05:03
  that
• 1:05:03
  first
• 1:05:04
  book
• 1:05:04
  out
• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:07
  oh,
• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:08
  book
• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:08
  out
• 1:05:09
  there
• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:09
  it's
• 1:05:09
  just
• 1:05:09
  going
• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:10
  take
• 1:05:10
  care
• 1:05:10
  of
• 1:05:10
  itself.
• 1:05:12
  That
• 1:05:12
  does
• 1:05:12
  not
• 1:05:12
  happen
• 1:05:13
  for
• 1:05:13
  me
• 1:05:14
  Anyway.
• 1:05:14
  I'm
• 1:05:15
  not
• 1:05:15
  100%.
• 1:05:16
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• 1:05:16
  would
• 1:05:16
  say
• 1:05:16
  99.9%.
• 1:05:19
  Unless
• 1:05:19
  you're
• 1:05:19
  Stephen
• 1:05:19
  King
• 1:05:20
  or
• 1:05:20
  Dr.
• 1:05:21
  Seuss.
• 1:05:21
  I'm
• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:22
  to
• 1:05:22
  say
• 1:05:22
  I'm
• 1:05:22
  not
• 1:05:22
  a
• 1:05:23
  household
• 1:05:23
  name
• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:25
  I
• 1:05:25
  find
• 1:05:25
  that
• 1:05:26
  I
• 1:05:26
  have
• 1:05:26
  to
• 1:05:26
  do
• 1:05:26
  things.
• 1:05:27
  So
• 1:05:27
  I
• 1:05:28
  need
• 1:05:28
  to
• 1:05:28
  be
• 1:05:28
  out
• 1:05:28
  in
• 1:05:29
  schools,
• 1:05:29
  I
• 1:05:30
  need
• 1:05:30
  to
• 1:05:30
  be
• 1:05:30
  posting,
• 1:05:31
  I
• 1:05:31
  need
• 1:05:31
  to
• 1:05:31
  be
• 1:05:32
  doing
• 1:05:32
  things,
• 1:05:33
  keep,
• 1:05:34
  let's
• 1:05:34
  say,
• 1:05:34
  the
• 1:05:35
  interest
• 1:05:35
  in
• 1:05:36
  the
• 1:05:36
  books.
• 1:05:37
  So
• 1:05:37
  that
• 1:05:38
  was,
• 1:05:38
  I
• 1:05:38
  think,
• 1:05:38
  more
• 1:05:38
  of
• 1:05:39
  an
• 1:05:39
  eye
• 1:05:39
  opener.
• 1:05:40
  And
• 1:05:40
  I
• 1:05:40
  don't
• 1:05:40
  know
• 1:05:41
  enough
• 1:05:41
  about
• 1:05:41
  the
• 1:05:42
  publishing
• 1:05:42
  industry
• 1:05:42
  back
• 1:05:43
  in
• 1:05:43
  the
• 1:05:43
  day,
• 1:05:43
  but
• 1:05:43
  I
• 1:05:43
  think
• 1:05:45
  when
• 1:05:45
  you
• 1:05:45
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• 1:05:45
  picked
• 1:05:45
  up
• 1:05:45
  by
• 1:05:46
  a
• 1:05:46
  publisher
• 1:05:46
  in
• 1:05:46
  those
• 1:05:46
  days,
• 1:05:47
  it
• 1:05:47
  wasn't
• 1:05:47
  the
• 1:05:47
  kind
• 1:05:48
  of
• 1:05:48
  social
• 1:05:48
  media
• 1:05:48
  that
• 1:05:49
  we
• 1:05:49
  have
• 1:05:49
  now.
• 1:05:50
  And
• 1:05:50
  I
• 1:05:50
  think
• 1:05:51
  that
• 1:05:51
  the
• 1:05:52
  publishers
• 1:05:52
  were
• 1:05:52
  more
• 1:05:53
  in
• 1:05:53
  charge
• 1:05:53
  of
• 1:05:53
  the
• 1:05:54
  marketing
• 1:05:54
  and
• 1:05:54
  getting
• 1:05:55
  the
• 1:05:55
  books
• 1:05:55
  out
• 1:05:55
  there.
• 1:05:56
  And
• 1:05:56
  now,
• 1:05:56
  even
• 1:05:56
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• 1:05:57
  you
• 1:05:57
  have
• 1:05:57
  a
• 1:05:57
  publisher,
• 1:05:58
  a
• 1:05:58
  lot
• 1:05:58
  of
• 1:05:58
  it
• 1:05:58
  is
• 1:05:58
  still
• 1:05:59
  on
• 1:05:59
  you.
• 1:05:59
  Yes.
• 1:06:00
  And
• 1:06:00
  that's
• 1:06:00
  what
• 1:06:00
  I've
• 1:06:01
  heard.
• 1:06:01
  At
• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:02
  end
• 1:06:02
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• 1:06:02
  the
• 1:06:02
  day,
• 1:06:02
  there
• 1:06:03
  is
• 1:06:03
  expectations
• 1:06:04
  like
• 1:06:05
  you
• 1:06:05
  talked
• 1:06:05
  about
• 1:06:06
  through
• 1:06:06
  social
• 1:06:06
  media,
• 1:06:07
  big
• 1:06:07
  time
• 1:06:08
  and
• 1:06:09
  that
• 1:06:09
  type
• 1:06:09
  of
• 1:06:10
  following.
• 1:06:10
  You
• 1:06:11
  look
• 1:06:11
  at
• 1:06:11
  people
• 1:06:11
  who
• 1:06:12
  have
• 1:06:13
  100,000
• 1:06:13
  or
• 1:06:14
  200,000
• 1:06:14
  followers.
• 1:06:15
  That's
• 1:06:16
  why
• 1:06:16
  they
• 1:06:16
  get
• 1:06:16
  book
• 1:06:17
  deals,
• 1:06:17
  because
• 1:06:17
  of
• 1:06:18
  their
• 1:06:18
  social
• 1:06:18
  media.
• 1:06:19
  And
• 1:06:20
  it's
• 1:06:21
  an
• 1:06:21
  interesting
• 1:06:22
  dynamic
• 1:06:23
  in
• 1:06:23
  terms
• 1:06:24
  of
• 1:06:25
  your
• 1:06:26
  book
• 1:06:27
  that
• 1:06:27
  you
• 1:06:27
  did
• 1:06:27
  with
• 1:06:28
  your
• 1:06:28
  son.
• 1:06:28
  Are
• 1:06:28
  you
• 1:06:28
  a
• 1:06:29
  bird
• 1:06:29
  like
• 1:06:29
  me?
• 1:06:31
  Talk
• 1:06:31
  to
• 1:06:31
  us
• 1:06:31
  about
• 1:06:33
  you
• 1:06:34
  had
• 1:06:34
  your
• 1:06:34
  first
• 1:06:34
  book
• 1:06:35
  out.
• 1:06:35
  Your
• 1:06:36
  expectations
• 1:06:36
  are
• 1:06:37
  a
• 1:06:37
  little
• 1:06:37
  different.
• 1:06:37
  Talk
• 1:06:38
  to
• 1:06:38
  us
• 1:06:38
  about
• 1:06:38
  the
• 1:06:38
  success
• 1:06:39
  expectations
• 1:06:40
  for
• 1:06:40
  that
• 1:06:40
  book
• 1:06:41
  and
• 1:06:41
  what
• 1:06:41
  does
• 1:06:42
  it
• 1:06:42
  look
• 1:06:42
  like?
• 1:06:43
  That
• 1:06:44
  book
• 1:06:44
  obviously
• 1:06:44
  was
• 1:06:45
  100%
• 1:06:46
  on
• 1:06:46
  us.
• 1:06:47
  We
• 1:06:47
  making
• 1:06:47
  our
• 1:06:48
  own
• 1:06:48
  deadlines
• 1:06:48
  and
• 1:06:49
  goals
• 1:06:49
  and
• 1:06:49
  we're
• 1:06:50
  doing
• 1:06:50
  the
• 1:06:50
  whole
• 1:06:50
  process,
• 1:06:51
  finding
• 1:06:51
  the
• 1:06:52
  illustrator,
• 1:06:53
  getting
• 1:06:53
  the
• 1:06:53
  book
• 1:06:54
  to
• 1:06:54
  market,
• 1:06:55
  doing
• 1:06:55
  all
• 1:06:55
  the
• 1:06:56
  branding,
• 1:06:56
  the
• 1:06:57
  COVID
• 1:06:57
  everything.
• 1:06:58
  We
• 1:06:59
  really
• 1:06:59
  enjoyed
• 1:07:00
  the
• 1:07:00
  process
• 1:07:00
  and
• 1:07:00
  the
• 1:07:01
  autonomy
• 1:07:01
  of
• 1:07:01
  that
• 1:07:02
  and
• 1:07:02
  all
• 1:07:02
  the
• 1:07:02
  decisions.
• 1:07:03
  Again,
• 1:07:05
  that
• 1:07:06
  takes
• 1:07:07
  for
• 1:07:07
  at
• 1:07:07
  least
• 1:07:08
  us
• 1:07:08
  to
• 1:07:08
  getting
• 1:07:09
  that
• 1:07:09
  book
• 1:07:09
  into
• 1:07:09
  the
• 1:07:09
  hands
• 1:07:10
  of
• 1:07:10
  people
• 1:07:11
  who
• 1:07:11
  we
• 1:07:11
  think
• 1:07:11
  would
• 1:07:12
  really
• 1:07:12
  love
• 1:07:13
  takes
• 1:07:14
  us
• 1:07:14
  making
• 1:07:15
  posts
• 1:07:15
  and
• 1:07:15
  getting
• 1:07:15
  out
• 1:07:16
  into
• 1:07:16
  the
• 1:07:16
  schools
• 1:07:17
  and
• 1:07:17
  whatnot.
• 1:07:18
  That
• 1:07:18
  book,
• 1:07:19
  like
• 1:07:19
  I
• 1:07:19
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• 1:07:19
  earlier,
• 1:07:21
  I
• 1:07:21
  get
• 1:07:21
  a
• 1:07:21
  lot
• 1:07:21
  of
• 1:07:23
  notes
• 1:07:23
  and
• 1:07:24
  feedback
• 1:07:25
  from
• 1:07:25
  teachers
• 1:07:26
  and
• 1:07:26
  parents
• 1:07:26
  saying
• 1:07:27
  it's
• 1:07:27
  a
• 1:07:27
  kid
• 1:07:28
  favorite,
• 1:07:29
  that
• 1:07:29
  one.
• 1:07:29
  Obviously
• 1:07:30
  you
• 1:07:30
  love
• 1:07:30
  hearing
• 1:07:30
  that
• 1:07:30
  as
• 1:07:31
  an
• 1:07:31
  author,
• 1:07:31
  but
• 1:07:32
  yeah,
• 1:07:32
  it
• 1:07:32
  still
• 1:07:33
  took
• 1:07:33
  a
• 1:07:33
  lot
• 1:07:33
  of
• 1:07:33
  work,
• 1:07:34
  right?
• 1:07:35
  It
• 1:07:35
  still
• 1:07:35
  will.
• 1:07:35
  It's
• 1:07:36
  going
• 1:07:36
  to
• 1:07:36
  be
• 1:07:36
  your
• 1:07:38
  inertia
• 1:07:38
  that
• 1:07:39
  keeps
• 1:07:39
  it
• 1:07:39
  going.
• 1:07:40
  Absolutely.
• 1:07:41
  And
• 1:07:41
  advice
• 1:07:41
  for
• 1:07:42
  inspiring
• 1:07:43
  authors.
• 1:07:44
  You've
• 1:07:44
  shared
• 1:07:45
  a
• 1:07:45
  lot.
• 1:07:45
  It's
• 1:07:46
  fantastic
• 1:07:47
  and
• 1:07:47
  it's
• 1:07:47
  nice
• 1:07:48
  that
• 1:07:48
  you've
• 1:07:48
  come
• 1:07:48
  at
• 1:07:48
  it
• 1:07:49
  from
• 1:07:49
  a
• 1:07:49
  couple
• 1:07:49
  of
• 1:07:49
  different
• 1:07:50
  standpoints.
• 1:07:51
  When
• 1:07:51
  it
• 1:07:51
  came
• 1:07:51
  to
• 1:07:51
  publishing
• 1:07:53
  advice
• 1:07:53
  for
• 1:07:53
  aspiring
• 1:07:54
  authors,
• 1:07:55
  what
• 1:07:55
  advice
• 1:07:55
  would
• 1:07:55
  you
• 1:07:55
  give
• 1:07:56
  them?
• 1:07:57
  I
• 1:07:57
  would
• 1:07:57
  say
• 1:07:58
  if
• 1:07:58
  I
• 1:07:58
  were
• 1:07:59
  to
• 1:07:59
  think
• 1:07:59
  about
• 1:07:59
  the
• 1:08:00
  mistakes
• 1:08:00
  I
• 1:08:00
  made,
• 1:08:02
  I
• 1:08:02
  actually
• 1:08:02
  wrote
• 1:08:03
  a
• 1:08:03
  book
• 1:08:04
  when
• 1:08:04
  our
• 1:08:05
  first
• 1:08:05
  son
• 1:08:05
  was
• 1:08:05
  born.
• 1:08:06
  Now
• 1:08:07
  that's
• 1:08:07
  close
• 1:08:07
  to
• 1:08:07
  40
• 1:08:07
  years
• 1:08:08
  ago,
• 1:08:09
  and
• 1:08:10
  I
• 1:08:11
  just
• 1:08:11
  had
• 1:08:11
  no
• 1:08:11
  clue
• 1:08:12
  what
• 1:08:12
  the
• 1:08:13
  process
• 1:08:13
  was
• 1:08:13
  like.
• 1:08:13
  But
• 1:08:14
  I
• 1:08:14
  loved
• 1:08:14
  reading
• 1:08:15
  to
• 1:08:15
  our
• 1:08:15
  son
• 1:08:16
  and
• 1:08:16
  I
• 1:08:16
  was
• 1:08:17
  like,
• 1:08:17
  I
• 1:08:17
  think
• 1:08:17
  I
• 1:08:17
  can
• 1:08:17
  do
• 1:08:18
  this.
• 1:08:18
  So
• 1:08:18
  I
• 1:08:19
  wrote
• 1:08:19
  a
• 1:08:19
  book,
• 1:08:19
  threw
• 1:08:20
  it
• 1:08:20
  out
• 1:08:20
  there,
• 1:08:20
  got
• 1:08:21
  rejected
• 1:08:21
  from
• 1:08:21
  everybody.
• 1:08:22
  I
• 1:08:22
  Put
• 1:08:23
  that
• 1:08:23
  book
• 1:08:24
  in
• 1:08:24
  my
• 1:08:24
  desk
• 1:08:25
  drawer
• 1:08:25
  for
• 1:08:25
  about
• 1:08:26
  40
• 1:08:26
  years.
• 1:08:28
  And
• 1:08:28
  then
• 1:08:29
  when
• 1:08:29
  it
• 1:08:29
  came
• 1:08:29
  time
• 1:08:30
  to
• 1:08:30
  think
• 1:08:30
  about
• 1:08:30
  doing
• 1:08:31
  ABC
• 1:08:31
  Worry
• 1:08:32
  Free,
• 1:08:32
  I
• 1:08:33
  really
• 1:08:33
  rethought
• 1:08:34
  my
• 1:08:34
  approach.
• 1:08:34
  I
• 1:08:34
  was
• 1:08:35
  like,
• 1:08:35
  okay,
• 1:08:36
  let's
• 1:08:36
  research
• 1:08:37
  this
• 1:08:37
  a
• 1:08:37
  little
• 1:08:37
  bit
• 1:08:37
  more
• 1:08:38
  and
• 1:08:38
  do
• 1:08:38
  this
• 1:08:39
  more
• 1:08:39
  mindfully.
• 1:08:40
  That
• 1:08:41
  made
• 1:08:41
  a
• 1:08:41
  huge
• 1:08:42
  difference.
• 1:08:42
  And
• 1:08:43
  I
• 1:08:43
  feel
• 1:08:44
  I
• 1:08:45
  would
• 1:08:45
  encourage
• 1:08:47
  authors
• 1:08:47
  to
• 1:08:47
  go,
• 1:08:48
  if
• 1:08:48
  you
• 1:08:48
  have
• 1:08:49
  an
• 1:08:49
  idea,
• 1:08:50
  go
• 1:08:51
  look
• 1:08:51
  and
• 1:08:51
  see
• 1:08:51
  what
• 1:08:51
  else
• 1:08:52
  has
• 1:08:52
  been
• 1:08:52
  done
• 1:08:52
  on
• 1:08:52
  that
• 1:08:52
  idea
• 1:08:53
  and
• 1:08:53
  just
• 1:08:54
  say,
• 1:08:54
  okay,
• 1:08:54
  what
• 1:08:54
  do
• 1:08:55
  I
• 1:08:55
  have
• 1:08:55
  to
• 1:08:55
  offer
• 1:08:55
  that's
• 1:08:56
  different?
• 1:08:57
  So
• 1:08:58
  take
• 1:08:58
  a
• 1:08:58
  look
• 1:08:58
  at
• 1:09:00
  other
• 1:09:00
  books
• 1:09:00
  that
• 1:09:00
  are
• 1:09:01
  similar
• 1:09:02
  and
• 1:09:02
  then
• 1:09:03
  in
• 1:09:03
  a
• 1:09:03
  similar
• 1:09:03
  genre
• 1:09:04
  and
• 1:09:04
  then
• 1:09:05
  look
• 1:09:05
  at
• 1:09:05
  the
• 1:09:05
  publishers
• 1:09:06
  who
• 1:09:06
  publish
• 1:09:07
  those
• 1:09:07
  books.
• 1:09:09
  And
• 1:09:09
  that's
• 1:09:10
  what
• 1:09:11
  to
• 1:09:11
  me
• 1:09:11
  was
• 1:09:11
  the
• 1:09:11
  difference
• 1:09:12
  maker.
• 1:09:12
  Because
• 1:09:12
  I
• 1:09:12
  started
• 1:09:13
  looking
• 1:09:13
  at
• 1:09:13
  books,
• 1:09:14
  then
• 1:09:14
  I
• 1:09:15
  wrote
• 1:09:15
  ABC
• 1:09:15
  Worry
• 1:09:16
  Free
• 1:09:16
  and
• 1:09:16
  then
• 1:09:16
  I
• 1:09:17
  looked
• 1:09:17
  at
• 1:09:17
  the
• 1:09:17
  publishers
• 1:09:18
  who
• 1:09:18
  wrote
• 1:09:18
  them.
• 1:09:19
  And
• 1:09:19
  then,
• 1:09:19
  great
• 1:09:19
  idea.
• 1:09:20
  It
• 1:09:21
  helped
• 1:09:21
  me
• 1:09:21
  target
• 1:09:22
  who
• 1:09:23
  might
• 1:09:23
  publish
• 1:09:23
  something
• 1:09:25
  about
• 1:09:25
  this
• 1:09:25
  topic.
• 1:09:26
  You
• 1:09:26
  know
• 1:09:26
  what?
• 1:09:27
  You're
• 1:09:27
  now,
• 1:09:27
  I
• 1:09:28
  think
• 1:09:28
  around
• 1:09:29
  my
• 1:09:29
  70th
• 1:09:30
  children's
• 1:09:30
  book
• 1:09:30
  author
• 1:09:31
  that
• 1:09:31
  I've
• 1:09:31
  talked
• 1:09:31
  to,
• 1:09:32
  you're
• 1:09:32
  the
• 1:09:32
  first
• 1:09:33
  one
• 1:09:33
  that
• 1:09:33
  actually
• 1:09:34
  said
• 1:09:35
  look
• 1:09:35
  at
• 1:09:35
  who
• 1:09:35
  the
• 1:09:35
  publisher
• 1:09:36
  is.
• 1:09:36
  So
• 1:09:37
  thank
• 1:09:37
  you.
• 1:09:37
  It's
• 1:09:38
  amazing.
• 1:09:39
  I
• 1:09:39
  think
• 1:09:39
  that's
• 1:09:40
  so
• 1:09:40
  helpful
• 1:09:41
  because
• 1:09:41
  the
• 1:09:41
  big
• 1:09:41
  mistake
• 1:09:42
  I
• 1:09:42
  made
• 1:09:43
  40
• 1:09:43
  years
• 1:09:44
  ago
• 1:09:44
  is
• 1:09:45
  I
• 1:09:45
  just
• 1:09:45
  sent
• 1:09:45
  it
• 1:09:45
  out
• 1:09:46
  to
• 1:09:46
  random
• 1:09:47
  publishers.
• 1:09:47
  Like
• 1:09:48
  maybe
• 1:09:48
  they
• 1:09:49
  just
• 1:09:49
  publish
• 1:09:49
  adult
• 1:09:50
  work.
• 1:09:50
  They
• 1:09:50
  may
• 1:09:51
  not
• 1:09:51
  even
• 1:09:51
  publish
• 1:09:52
  children's
• 1:09:52
  books.
• 1:09:52
  I
• 1:09:53
  wasn't
• 1:09:53
  being
• 1:09:53
  intentional.
• 1:09:54
  And
• 1:09:55
  very
• 1:09:55
  targeted.
• 1:09:56
  That
• 1:09:56
  can
• 1:09:57
  save
• 1:09:57
  a
• 1:09:57
  lot
• 1:09:57
  of
• 1:09:57
  time.
• 1:09:58
  Great
• 1:09:58
  advice,
• 1:09:59
  encouragement
• 1:10:00
  for
• 1:10:00
  readers.
• 1:10:01
  So
• 1:10:01
  tell
• 1:10:01
  us
• 1:10:01
  why
• 1:10:02
  should
• 1:10:02
  readers
• 1:10:03
  and
• 1:10:03
  you
• 1:10:03
  may
• 1:10:03
  have
• 1:10:04
  to
• 1:10:04
  come
• 1:10:04
  at
• 1:10:04
  this
• 1:10:05
  from
• 1:10:06
  all
• 1:10:06
  three
• 1:10:07
  books,
• 1:10:07
  but
• 1:10:07
  tell
• 1:10:07
  us
• 1:10:07
  why
• 1:10:08
  readers
• 1:10:08
  should
• 1:10:09
  read
• 1:10:09
  your
• 1:10:09
  books
• 1:10:10
  or.
• 1:10:10
  Purchase
• 1:10:11
  them
• 1:10:11
  if
• 1:10:11
  you
• 1:10:11
  happen
• 1:10:12
  to
• 1:10:12
  have
• 1:10:13
  any
• 1:10:13
  kids
• 1:10:13
  or
• 1:10:14
  students
• 1:10:14
  that
• 1:10:15
  are
• 1:10:15
  anxious.
• 1:10:16
  ABC
• 1:10:17
  Worry
• 1:10:17
  Free
• 1:10:17
  is
• 1:10:18
  a
• 1:10:18
  great
• 1:10:18
  teaching
• 1:10:19
  tool
• 1:10:19
  and
• 1:10:20
  I
• 1:10:20
  think
• 1:10:21
  it's
• 1:10:21
  a
• 1:10:21
  fun
• 1:10:21
  aging
• 1:10:22
  story.
• 1:10:23
  And
• 1:10:23
  at
• 1:10:23
  the
• 1:10:24
  same
• 1:10:24
  time,
• 1:10:24
  like
• 1:10:24
  I
• 1:10:24
  said,
• 1:10:25
  it
• 1:10:25
  will
• 1:10:25
  give
• 1:10:25
  you
• 1:10:26
  like
• 1:10:26
  a
• 1:10:27
  very
• 1:10:27
  explicit
• 1:10:28
  three
• 1:10:28
  step
• 1:10:29
  strategy,
• 1:10:29
  an
• 1:10:30
  actionable
• 1:10:30
  approach
• 1:10:31
  to
• 1:10:31
  manage
• 1:10:32
  anxiety.
• 1:10:34
  Are
• 1:10:34
  you
• 1:10:34
  a
• 1:10:34
  bird
• 1:10:34
  like
• 1:10:34
  me?
• 1:10:35
  Is
• 1:10:36
  I
• 1:10:36
  feel
• 1:10:37
  just
• 1:10:37
  a
• 1:10:37
  real
• 1:10:38
  playful,
• 1:10:39
  fun,
• 1:10:40
  sweet
• 1:10:41
  story
• 1:10:41
  about
• 1:10:41
  perseverance,
• 1:10:43
  friendship,
• 1:10:44
  facing
• 1:10:45
  fears,
• 1:10:46
  and
• 1:10:46
  what
• 1:10:46
  happens
• 1:10:47
  when
• 1:10:47
  we
• 1:10:47
  come
• 1:10:48
  together,
• 1:10:48
  the
• 1:10:48
  amazing
• 1:10:49
  things
• 1:10:49
  that
• 1:10:49
  can
• 1:10:49
  happen
• 1:10:50
  when
• 1:10:50
  we
• 1:10:50
  work
• 1:10:50
  together.
• 1:10:52
  And
• 1:10:52
  that's
• 1:10:53
  about
• 1:10:53
  a
• 1:10:53
  little
• 1:10:53
  bird
• 1:10:54
  that
• 1:10:54
  falls
• 1:10:54
  out
• 1:10:54
  of
• 1:10:54
  a
• 1:10:55
  nest,
• 1:10:55
  it
• 1:10:55
  gets
• 1:10:55
  lost
• 1:10:56
  and
• 1:10:56
  has
• 1:10:56
  to
• 1:10:56
  go
• 1:10:57
  through
• 1:10:57
  a
• 1:10:57
  series
• 1:10:57
  of
• 1:10:57
  challenges
• 1:10:58
  to
• 1:10:58
  get
• 1:10:58
  herself
• 1:10:59
  back
• 1:10:59
  home.
• 1:11:00
  And
• 1:11:00
  then
• 1:11:00
  the
• 1:11:01
  executive
• 1:11:01
  function
• 1:11:01
  book,
• 1:11:02
  15
• 1:11:02
  Minute
• 1:11:02
  Focus.
• 1:11:03
  Executive
• 1:11:03
  Function
• 1:11:04
  is
• 1:11:05
  about
• 1:11:06
  practical
• 1:11:08
  tips,
• 1:11:08
  tricks
• 1:11:09
  and
• 1:11:09
  tools
• 1:11:09
  that
• 1:11:10
  you
• 1:11:10
  can
• 1:11:10
  use
• 1:11:11
  in
• 1:11:11
  real
• 1:11:11
  time
• 1:11:12
  to
• 1:11:12
  help
• 1:11:12
  kids
• 1:11:13
  who
• 1:11:13
  have,
• 1:11:13
  say,
• 1:11:13
  ADHD
• 1:11:14
  or
• 1:11:14
  challenges
• 1:11:15
  with
• 1:11:15
  executive
• 1:11:16
  function.
• 1:11:16
  And
• 1:11:17
  it's
• 1:11:17
  really
• 1:11:17
  designed
• 1:11:18
  to
• 1:11:18
  support
• 1:11:18
  the
• 1:11:18
  parents
• 1:11:19
  and
• 1:11:19
  teachers
• 1:11:19
  and
• 1:11:20
  counselors
• 1:11:20
  in
• 1:11:20
  their
• 1:11:21
  lives,
• 1:11:21
  which
• 1:11:22
  ultimately
• 1:11:22
  helps
• 1:11:23
  the
• 1:11:23
  kids.
• 1:11:24
  And
• 1:11:25
  all
• 1:11:25
  of
• 1:11:25
  the
• 1:11:25
  common
• 1:11:26
  thread
• 1:11:26
  of
• 1:11:26
  all
• 1:11:26
  of
• 1:11:26
  my
• 1:11:27
  work
• 1:11:27
  is,
• 1:11:27
  is
• 1:11:28
  really
• 1:11:28
  about
• 1:11:29
  empowerment.
• 1:11:30
  It's
• 1:11:31
  helping
• 1:11:31
  kids
• 1:11:33
  to
• 1:11:34
  tackle
• 1:11:35
  some
• 1:11:35
  challenges,
• 1:11:36
  become
• 1:11:36
  more
• 1:11:37
  resilient,
• 1:11:38
  develop
• 1:11:39
  skills
• 1:11:40
  and
• 1:11:41
  develop
• 1:11:41
  their
• 1:11:41
  confidence
• 1:11:42
  and
• 1:11:42
  their
• 1:11:42
  mindset.
• 1:11:44
  Skill
• 1:11:44
  sets
• 1:11:44
  and
• 1:11:45
  mindsets
• 1:11:45
  are
• 1:11:45
  really
• 1:11:46
  powerful
• 1:11:46
  when
• 1:11:46
  you
• 1:11:47
  can
• 1:11:47
  combine
• 1:11:47
  them.
• 1:11:48
  Final
• 1:11:49
  Thoughts.
• 1:11:50
  You
• 1:11:50
  shared
• 1:11:51
  a
• 1:11:51
  lot
• 1:11:51
  today.
• 1:11:51
  Is
• 1:11:52
  there
• 1:11:52
  something
• 1:11:52
  you
• 1:11:53
  said?
• 1:11:53
  Oh,
• 1:11:53
  you
• 1:11:53
  know
• 1:11:53
  what,
• 1:11:53
  I
• 1:11:54
  wish
• 1:11:54
  Rick
• 1:11:54
  would
• 1:11:54
  have
• 1:11:55
  asked
• 1:11:55
  me
• 1:11:55
  that
• 1:11:55
  question.
• 1:11:56
  Is
• 1:11:56
  there
• 1:11:57
  something
• 1:11:57
  you'd
• 1:11:57
  like
• 1:11:57
  to
• 1:11:57
  share
• 1:11:58
  that
• 1:11:59
  I
• 1:11:59
  just
• 1:12:00
  didn't
• 1:12:00
  cover?
• 1:12:01
  This
• 1:12:02
  is
• 1:12:02
  just
• 1:12:02
  a
• 1:12:02
  question
• 1:12:02
  that
• 1:12:02
  I
• 1:12:03
  don't
• 1:12:03
  know
• 1:12:03
  the
• 1:12:03
  answer
• 1:12:03
  to.
• 1:12:05
  I
• 1:12:06
  have
• 1:12:06
  a
• 1:12:06
  publisher
• 1:12:08
  and
• 1:12:08
  I.
• 1:12:09
  I
• 1:12:09
  don't
• 1:12:09
  have
• 1:12:09
  an
• 1:12:09
  agent
• 1:12:10
  and
• 1:12:10
  I've
• 1:12:10
  often
• 1:12:10
  wonder
• 1:12:11
  what's
• 1:12:12
  the
• 1:12:12
  advantages
• 1:12:13
  of
• 1:12:13
  having
• 1:12:13
  an
• 1:12:14
  agent
• 1:12:15
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• 1:12:17
  not
• 1:12:18
  having
• 1:12:18
  an
• 1:12:18
  agent
• 1:12:18
  but
• 1:12:19
  you
• 1:12:19
  also
• 1:12:19
  have
• 1:12:19
  a
• 1:12:19
  publisher.
• 1:12:20
  So
• 1:12:20
  yeah,
• 1:12:21
  that's
• 1:12:22
  something
• 1:12:22
  that
• 1:12:22
  I
• 1:12:23
  thought
• 1:12:23
  about.
• 1:12:23
  I
• 1:12:24
  know
• 1:12:24
  from
• 1:12:24
  just
• 1:12:25
  hearing
• 1:12:25
  through
• 1:12:25
  the
• 1:12:26
  grapevine
• 1:12:26
  it
• 1:12:26
  can
• 1:12:27
  be
• 1:12:27
  very
• 1:12:27
  time
• 1:12:28
  consuming
• 1:12:28
  trying
• 1:12:29
  to
• 1:12:29
  find
• 1:12:29
  one.
• 1:12:30
  But
• 1:12:30
  I
• 1:12:30
  don't
• 1:12:30
  know
• 1:12:31
  if
• 1:12:31
  that's
• 1:12:31
  something
• 1:12:31
  that
• 1:12:31
  you've
• 1:12:32
  talked
• 1:12:32
  about
• 1:12:32
  before.
• 1:12:33
  It's
• 1:12:34
  something
• 1:12:34
  I
• 1:12:34
  don't
• 1:12:34
  know
• 1:12:34
  a
• 1:12:35
  lot
• 1:12:35
  about.
• 1:12:35
  It's
• 1:12:35
  interesting
• 1:12:36
  you
• 1:12:36
  should
• 1:12:36
  ask
• 1:12:36
  that
• 1:12:36
  because
• 1:12:37
  when
• 1:12:37
  I
• 1:12:37
  first
• 1:12:37
  started
• 1:12:38
  the
• 1:12:38
  podcast
• 1:12:38
  show
• 1:12:39
  for
• 1:12:40
  me,
• 1:12:40
  all
• 1:12:40
  I
• 1:12:40
  wanted
• 1:12:41
  to
• 1:12:41
  do
• 1:12:41
  is
• 1:12:41
  talk
• 1:12:41
  to
• 1:12:41
  children's
• 1:12:42
  book
• 1:12:42
  authors,
• 1:12:43
  and
• 1:12:43
  it
• 1:12:43
  didn't
• 1:12:44
  matter
• 1:12:44
  to
• 1:12:44
  me
• 1:12:44
  whether
• 1:12:45
  they
• 1:12:45
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• 1:12:45
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• 1:12:46
  published
• 1:12:46
  or
• 1:12:46
  hybrid
• 1:12:47
  published
• 1:12:48
  or
• 1:12:48
  independently
• 1:12:49
  published.
• 1:12:50
  The
• 1:12:50
  whole
• 1:12:50
  idea
• 1:12:51
  was
• 1:12:51
  that
• 1:12:51
  my
• 1:12:52
  guest
• 1:12:52
  could
• 1:12:52
  listen
• 1:12:53
  to
• 1:12:53
  a
• 1:12:54
  doer,
• 1:12:54
  someone
• 1:12:55
  who
• 1:12:55
  did
• 1:12:55
  it,
• 1:12:56
  who
• 1:12:56
  was
• 1:12:56
  a
• 1:12:57
  published
• 1:12:57
  children's
• 1:12:58
  book
• 1:12:58
  author.
• 1:12:59
  And
• 1:13:00
  so
• 1:13:00
  far
• 1:13:01
  I've
• 1:13:01
  been
• 1:13:01
  attracting
• 1:13:02
  hybrid
• 1:13:04
  children's
• 1:13:04
  book
• 1:13:04
  authors
• 1:13:05
  and
• 1:13:06
  independently
• 1:13:07
  published
• 1:13:08
  children's
• 1:13:09
  book
• 1:13:09
  authors.
• 1:13:10
  And
• 1:13:10
  anyone
• 1:13:10
  who's
• 1:13:11
  tried
• 1:13:11
  to
• 1:13:11
  go
• 1:13:12
  traditionally
• 1:13:12
  published
• 1:13:13
  and
• 1:13:13
  find
• 1:13:14
  an
• 1:13:14
  agent
• 1:13:15
  most
• 1:13:15
  of
• 1:13:15
  the
• 1:13:15
  time
• 1:13:16
  has
• 1:13:16
  said
• 1:13:17
  to
• 1:13:17
  me
• 1:13:17
  exactly
• 1:13:17
  what
• 1:13:18
  you
• 1:13:18
  just
• 1:13:18
  said,
• 1:13:18
  Noel.
• 1:13:19
  It
• 1:13:20
  was
• 1:13:20
  so
• 1:13:20
  time
• 1:13:21
  consuming.
• 1:13:22
  They
• 1:13:22
  just
• 1:13:22
  finally
• 1:13:23
  threw
• 1:13:23
  their
• 1:13:23
  hands
• 1:13:24
  up
• 1:13:24
  in
• 1:13:24
  the
• 1:13:24
  air
• 1:13:24
  and
• 1:13:25
  said,
• 1:13:25
  I'm
• 1:13:26
  a
• 1:13:26
  doer.
• 1:13:26
  I'm
• 1:13:27
  going
• 1:13:27
  to
• 1:13:27
  go
• 1:13:27
  get
• 1:13:27
  my
• 1:13:27
  own
• 1:13:28
  children's
• 1:13:29
  book
• 1:13:29
  published.
• 1:13:30
  And
• 1:13:30
  so
• 1:13:31
  that's
• 1:13:31
  what
• 1:13:31
  they
• 1:13:31
  did.
• 1:13:32
  I've
• 1:13:32
  never
• 1:13:32
  had
• 1:13:32
  an
• 1:13:33
  agent
• 1:13:33
  on
• 1:13:33
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• 1:13:34
  show
• 1:13:34
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• 1:13:34
  I
• 1:13:34
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• 1:13:36
  talked
• 1:13:36
  to
• 1:13:36
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• 1:13:37
  who's
• 1:13:37
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• 1:13:38
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• 1:13:38
  a
• 1:13:38
  traditionally
• 1:13:39
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• 1:13:40
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• 1:13:40
  authority.
• 1:13:41
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• 1:13:41
  had
• 1:13:41
  a
• 1:13:41
  couple
• 1:13:41
  of
• 1:13:42
  guests
• 1:13:42
  on
• 1:13:42
  who
• 1:13:42
  have
• 1:13:44
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• 1:13:44
  a
• 1:13:45
  few
• 1:13:45
  books
• 1:13:45
  and
• 1:13:46
  then
• 1:13:46
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• 1:13:46
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• 1:13:46
  go
• 1:13:47
  to
• 1:13:47
  a
• 1:13:47
  more
• 1:13:48
  traditional
• 1:13:48
  publisher.
• 1:13:49
  But
• 1:13:50
  even
• 1:13:50
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• 1:13:50
  arrangements,
• 1:13:51
  I
• 1:13:52
  had
• 1:13:52
  bart
• 1:13:52
  Taylor
• 1:13:53
  Episode
• 1:13:53
  53
• 1:13:54
  on
• 1:13:55
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• 1:13:55
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• 1:13:55
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• 1:13:56
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• 1:13:57
  and
• 1:13:58
  he
• 1:13:59
  was
• 1:14:00
  writing
• 1:14:00
  some
• 1:14:00
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• 1:14:01
  books
• 1:14:01
  and
• 1:14:02
  he
• 1:14:02
  eventually
• 1:14:04
  wrote
• 1:14:05
  three
• 1:14:05
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• 1:14:05
  regarding
• 1:14:06
  Will
• 1:14:06
  Rogers
• 1:14:06
  and
• 1:14:07
  ended
• 1:14:07
  up
• 1:14:07
  with
• 1:14:07
  a
• 1:14:08
  traditional
• 1:14:08
  publisher.
• 1:14:09
  He
• 1:14:09
  did
• 1:14:09
  tell
• 1:14:09
  me,
• 1:14:10
  you
• 1:14:10
  know
• 1:14:10
  what,
• 1:14:10
  Rick,
• 1:14:11
  I
• 1:14:11
  got
• 1:14:12
  a
• 1:14:12
  better
• 1:14:12
  deal.
• 1:14:14
  And
• 1:14:14
  so
• 1:14:14
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• 1:14:15
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• 1:14:15
  over
• 1:14:15
  his
• 1:14:16
  rights
• 1:14:16
  to
• 1:14:16
  his
• 1:14:17
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• 1:14:17
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• 1:14:17
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• 1:14:17
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• 1:14:18
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• 1:14:18
  the
• 1:14:18
  publishing
• 1:14:18
  now.
• 1:14:19
  But
• 1:14:19
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• 1:14:19
  has
• 1:14:20
  a
• 1:14:20
  much
• 1:14:20
  richer
• 1:14:20
  deal
• 1:14:21
  than
• 1:14:21
  most
• 1:14:22
  traditional
• 1:14:22
  publishers
• 1:14:23
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• 1:14:23
  give
• 1:14:23
  you.
• 1:14:24
  So
• 1:14:24
  am
• 1:14:24
  I
• 1:14:24
  one
• 1:14:24
  of
• 1:14:24
  the
• 1:14:25
  few
• 1:14:25
  guests
• 1:14:25
  so
• 1:14:25
  far
• 1:14:26
  that
• 1:14:26
  had
• 1:14:26
  the
• 1:14:27
  traditional
• 1:14:27
  publisher
• 1:14:28
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• 1:14:28
  the
• 1:14:28
  onset,
• 1:14:28
  from
• 1:14:29
  the
• 1:14:29
  first
• 1:14:29
  book.
• 1:14:29
  Yes,
• 1:14:30
  yes.
• 1:14:31
  And
• 1:14:32
  that's
• 1:14:32
  why
• 1:14:32
  I
• 1:14:32
  find
• 1:14:33
  it
• 1:14:33
  interesting
• 1:14:34
  that
• 1:14:34
  then
• 1:14:34
  you
• 1:14:34
  also
• 1:14:35
  went
• 1:14:35
  the
• 1:14:35
  hybrid
• 1:14:36
  publishing
• 1:14:36
  route.
• 1:14:37
  Yes.
• 1:14:37
  And
• 1:14:37
  I
• 1:14:38
  thought
• 1:14:38
  it
• 1:14:38
  would
• 1:14:38
  be
• 1:14:38
  helpful
• 1:14:39
  to
• 1:14:39
  have
• 1:14:39
  both
• 1:14:40
  experiences,
• 1:14:41
  to
• 1:14:41
  be
• 1:14:41
  able
• 1:14:41
  to
• 1:14:41
  compare
• 1:14:42
  them.
• 1:14:43
  And
• 1:14:43
  they're
• 1:14:43
  both
• 1:14:44
  valuable.
• 1:14:45
  Absolutely.
• 1:14:46
  There's
• 1:14:46
  three
• 1:14:46
  different
• 1:14:46
  ways
• 1:14:47
  of
• 1:14:47
  doing
• 1:14:47
  it,
• 1:14:48
  primarily
• 1:14:49
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• 1:14:50
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• 1:14:51
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• 1:14:51
  independent.
• 1:14:52
  And
• 1:14:52
  at
• 1:14:52
  the
• 1:14:53
  end
• 1:14:53
  of
• 1:14:53
  the
• 1:14:53
  day,
• 1:14:53
  I
• 1:14:53
  think
• 1:14:53
  it's
• 1:14:54
  whatever
• 1:14:55
  you
• 1:14:55
  feel
• 1:14:55
  most
• 1:14:56
  comfortable
• 1:14:56
  with,
• 1:14:56
  because
• 1:14:57
  you
• 1:14:57
  said
• 1:14:57
  it
• 1:14:57
  earlier,
• 1:14:58
  Noel,
• 1:14:58
  whatever
• 1:14:59
  way
• 1:14:59
  you
• 1:14:59
  get
• 1:15:00
  published,
• 1:15:00
  you
• 1:15:00
  still
• 1:15:01
  have
• 1:15:01
  to
• 1:15:01
  do
• 1:15:02
  the
• 1:15:02
  majority
• 1:15:02
  of
• 1:15:02
  the
• 1:15:03
  work
• 1:15:04
  in
• 1:15:05
  terms
• 1:15:05
  of
• 1:15:05
  promoting
• 1:15:06
  and
• 1:15:06
  selling
• 1:15:07
  your
• 1:15:07
  book.
• 1:15:07
  Yes,
• 1:15:08
  the
• 1:15:08
  promotion
• 1:15:09
  part
• 1:15:09
  and
• 1:15:09
  the
• 1:15:09
  selling.
• 1:15:10
  Yeah.
• 1:15:10
  And
• 1:15:10
  at
• 1:15:10
  the
• 1:15:10
  end
• 1:15:11
  of
• 1:15:11
  the
• 1:15:11
  day,
• 1:15:12
  you
• 1:15:12
  know
• 1:15:12
  what?
• 1:15:12
  I
• 1:15:13
  could
• 1:15:13
  teach
• 1:15:13
  someone.
• 1:15:14
  From
• 1:15:14
  all
• 1:15:15
  of
• 1:15:15
  the
• 1:15:15
  learning
• 1:15:16
  that
• 1:15:16
  I've
• 1:15:16
  had
• 1:15:16
  happen,
• 1:15:17
  I
• 1:15:17
  could
• 1:15:17
  teach
• 1:15:18
  someone
• 1:15:18
  how
• 1:15:18
  to
• 1:15:18
  get
• 1:15:18
  their
• 1:15:18
  book
• 1:15:19
  published.
• 1:15:20
  The
• 1:15:21
  biggest
• 1:15:21
  obstacle
• 1:15:22
  is,
• 1:15:23
  and
• 1:15:23
  that's
• 1:15:23
  why
• 1:15:24
  I
• 1:15:24
  ask
• 1:15:24
  about
• 1:15:24
  a
• 1:15:24
  business
• 1:15:25
  book
• 1:15:25
  plan,
• 1:15:26
  because
• 1:15:26
  at
• 1:15:26
  the
• 1:15:26
  end
• 1:15:26
  of
• 1:15:27
  the
• 1:15:27
  day,
• 1:15:28
  it's
• 1:15:28
  all
• 1:15:29
  about
• 1:15:29
  the
• 1:15:29
  business.
• 1:15:30
  After
• 1:15:30
  you've
• 1:15:31
  published
• 1:15:31
  the
• 1:15:31
  book,
• 1:15:32
  like,
• 1:15:32
  how
• 1:15:32
  do
• 1:15:33
  you
• 1:15:33
  get
• 1:15:33
  out
• 1:15:33
  there
• 1:15:33
  and.
• 1:15:34
  And
• 1:15:34
  sell
• 1:15:34
  it?
• 1:15:35
  And
• 1:15:35
  a
• 1:15:35
  lot
• 1:15:35
  of
• 1:15:36
  people
• 1:15:36
  think
• 1:15:36
  if
• 1:15:37
  they
• 1:15:37
  have
• 1:15:37
  a
• 1:15:37
  marketing
• 1:15:38
  plan
• 1:15:38
  or
• 1:15:38
  if
• 1:15:39
  they
• 1:15:39
  have
• 1:15:39
  strong
• 1:15:40
  social
• 1:15:40
  media,
• 1:15:42
  that's
• 1:15:42
  going
• 1:15:42
  to
• 1:15:42
  make
• 1:15:42
  them
• 1:15:42
  a
• 1:15:43
  success.
• 1:15:43
  If
• 1:15:44
  you
• 1:15:44
  look
• 1:15:44
  at
• 1:15:44
  the
• 1:15:44
  10
• 1:15:45
  core
• 1:15:46
  elements
• 1:15:46
  of
• 1:15:47
  a
• 1:15:47
  business
• 1:15:48
  plan,
• 1:15:49
  a
• 1:15:49
  marketing
• 1:15:50
  or
• 1:15:50
  a
• 1:15:50
  sales
• 1:15:50
  or
• 1:15:51
  a
• 1:15:51
  distribution,
• 1:15:52
  that
• 1:15:53
  those
• 1:15:53
  are
• 1:15:53
  only
• 1:15:54
  one
• 1:15:54
  part
• 1:15:55
  of
• 1:15:55
  the
• 1:15:55
  entire
• 1:15:56
  book
• 1:15:57
  business
• 1:15:57
  plan.
• 1:15:58
  Absolutely.
• 1:15:59
  And
• 1:15:59
  like,
• 1:16:00
  just
• 1:16:00
  back
• 1:16:00
  for
• 1:16:00
  a
• 1:16:01
  second
• 1:16:01
  to
• 1:16:01
  the
• 1:16:01
  traditional
• 1:16:02
  publisher,
• 1:16:03
  the
• 1:16:03
  obviously
• 1:16:04
  big
• 1:16:05
  plus
• 1:16:05
  was
• 1:16:06
  I
• 1:16:06
  didn't
• 1:16:07
  put.
• 1:16:07
  Have
• 1:16:07
  to
• 1:16:07
  put
• 1:16:08
  any
• 1:16:08
  money
• 1:16:08
  up
• 1:16:08
  front
• 1:16:09
  to
• 1:16:10
  pay
• 1:16:10
  the
• 1:16:10
  illustrator.
• 1:16:11
  There
• 1:16:12
  was
• 1:16:12
  no
• 1:16:12
  upfront
• 1:16:13
  funds
• 1:16:14
  on
• 1:16:14
  my
• 1:16:14
  end
• 1:16:14
  for
• 1:16:15
  that.
• 1:16:15
  They
• 1:16:15
  shouldered
• 1:16:16
  all
• 1:16:16
  the
• 1:16:17
  cost.
• 1:16:17
  That
• 1:16:18
  was
• 1:16:18
  obviously
• 1:16:19
  what
• 1:16:19
  I
• 1:16:19
  love
• 1:16:19
  about.
• 1:16:19
  It
• 1:16:20
  is
• 1:16:20
  at
• 1:16:20
  the
• 1:16:20
  end
• 1:16:20
  of
• 1:16:20
  the
• 1:16:21
  day,
• 1:16:21
  you
• 1:16:21
  still
• 1:16:22
  didn't
• 1:16:22
  give
• 1:16:22
  up
• 1:16:22
  your
• 1:16:23
  rights
• 1:16:23
  to
• 1:16:23
  your
• 1:16:23
  content.
• 1:16:24
  Yes,
• 1:16:25
  I
• 1:16:25
  was.
• 1:16:26
  And
• 1:16:26
  that
• 1:16:27
  to
• 1:16:27
  me
• 1:16:27
  is
• 1:16:28
  like,
• 1:16:28
  hats
• 1:16:29
  off
• 1:16:29
  to
• 1:16:29
  you.
• 1:16:29
  That's
• 1:16:30
  just
• 1:16:30
  absolutely
• 1:16:32
  marvelous
• 1:16:33
  because
• 1:16:34
  you're
• 1:16:34
  building
• 1:16:35
  your
• 1:16:35
  business
• 1:16:35
  or
• 1:16:36
  part
• 1:16:36
  of
• 1:16:36
  your
• 1:16:36
  business
• 1:16:36
  around
• 1:16:37
  your
• 1:16:37
  children's
• 1:16:37
  books
• 1:16:38
  and
• 1:16:38
  you
• 1:16:39
  didn't
• 1:16:39
  have
• 1:16:39
  to
• 1:16:39
  give
• 1:16:39
  up
• 1:16:39
  to
• 1:16:40
  the
• 1:16:40
  rights
• 1:16:41
  to
• 1:16:41
  the
• 1:16:41
  content
• 1:16:42
  of
• 1:16:42
  those
• 1:16:42
  books.
• 1:16:43
  Correct.
• 1:16:44
  One
• 1:16:44
  question
• 1:16:45
  I
• 1:16:45
  have
• 1:16:45
  for
• 1:16:45
  you
• 1:16:45
  before
• 1:16:46
  we
• 1:16:46
  finish
• 1:16:46
  up
• 1:16:47
  is,
• 1:16:47
  have
• 1:16:47
  you
• 1:16:47
  taken
• 1:16:48
  your
• 1:16:48
  grandkids
• 1:16:49
  out
• 1:16:49
  on
• 1:16:49
  the
• 1:16:49
  road
• 1:16:49
  with
• 1:16:49
  you?
• 1:16:50
  I
• 1:16:51
  actually
• 1:16:51
  have
• 1:16:52
  visited
• 1:16:52
  and
• 1:16:52
  done
• 1:16:53
  book
• 1:16:53
  readings
• 1:16:54
  in
• 1:16:54
  their
• 1:16:55
  classes.
• 1:16:55
  Oh,
• 1:16:56
  terrific.
• 1:16:57
  And
• 1:16:58
  we're
• 1:16:59
  starting
• 1:16:59
  to
• 1:16:59
  talk
• 1:17:00
  about
• 1:17:00
  maybe
• 1:17:00
  going
• 1:17:00
  to
• 1:17:01
  live
• 1:17:01
  events.
• 1:17:02
  They
• 1:17:02
  have
• 1:17:03
  all
• 1:17:03
  got
• 1:17:03
  good
• 1:17:03
  personalities.
• 1:17:04
  I
• 1:17:04
  think
• 1:17:05
  they
• 1:17:05
  could
• 1:17:05
  help
• 1:17:05
  sell
• 1:17:05
  some
• 1:17:06
  books.
• 1:17:06
  If
• 1:17:06
  we
• 1:17:06
  went
• 1:17:06
  to
• 1:17:07
  some
• 1:17:07
  live
• 1:17:07
  events,
• 1:17:07
  that'd
• 1:17:08
  be
• 1:17:08
  the
• 1:17:08
  next
• 1:17:08
  thing.
• 1:17:09
  I
• 1:17:09
  think
• 1:17:09
  there's
• 1:17:09
  some
• 1:17:10
  potential
• 1:17:10
  there
• 1:17:10
  to.
• 1:17:11
  Take
• 1:17:11
  them
• 1:17:11
  on
• 1:17:11
  the
• 1:17:11
  road.
• 1:17:12
  Noel,
• 1:17:12
  thank
• 1:17:13
  you
• 1:17:13
  so
• 1:17:13
  much
• 1:17:13
  for
• 1:17:13
  being
• 1:17:14
  a
• 1:17:14
  guest
• 1:17:14
  on
• 1:17:15
  the
• 1:17:15
  Adventures
• 1:17:16
  in
• 1:17:16
  the
• 1:17:16
  Heart
• 1:17:16
  of
• 1:17:16
  Children's
• 1:17:17
  Book
• 1:17:17
  Authors
• 1:17:17
  Podcast.
• 1:17:18
  Your
• 1:17:18
  generosity
• 1:17:19
  of
• 1:17:19
  time,
• 1:17:20
  your
• 1:17:20
  insights,
• 1:17:21
  I
• 1:17:21
  know,
• 1:17:21
  will
• 1:17:21
  significantly
• 1:17:22
  benefit
• 1:17:23
  aspiring
• 1:17:24
  authors
• 1:17:24
  and
• 1:17:24
  readers,
• 1:17:25
  and
• 1:17:25
  we
• 1:17:26
  promise
• 1:17:26
  to
• 1:17:26
  provide
• 1:17:26
  our
• 1:17:27
  audience
• 1:17:27
  with
• 1:17:28
  links
• 1:17:28
  to
• 1:17:29
  Noelle's
• 1:17:29
  social
• 1:17:30
  media
• 1:17:30
  and
• 1:17:30
  her
• 1:17:31
  website
• 1:17:31
  and
• 1:17:32
  her
• 1:17:32
  books.
• 1:17:32
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• 1:17:33
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• 1:17:33
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• 1:17:33
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• 1:17:46
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• 1:17:47
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• 1:17:49
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• 1:17:49
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• 1:17:51
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• 1:17:51
  Noel.
• 1:17:52
  Thank
• 1:17:52
  you.
• 1:17:52
  It
• 1:17:53
  was
• 1:17:53
  a
• 1:17:53
  lot
• 1:17:53
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