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Patriots Unfiltered 4/21: NFL Draft Week, Prospects and Predictions, Latest Buzz · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: of Vigeon podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Deuce is on vacation.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see up to it. Doesn't talk to me about
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  Speaker 1: personal things. He talks to me just about like, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think about this guy? You know, all my
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  Speaker 1: beasts printed out neatly sorted with bulldog clips by position?
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  Speaker 1: And then what do you call those bulldog clips? That's
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  Speaker 1: what they're called? Right? They made a level off? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, it's the mid Yeah, what.
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  Speaker 2: Your kids say? Mid?
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  Speaker 1: Have y'all talked? Checked out? Jackson Kawatch, linebacker from Miami, Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna like assume that's a made up name. Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's trying to get me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm probably twenty watch twenty five deep onlinebackers in this
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  Speaker 3: draft and that name is not on the list.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say.
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  Speaker 2: Fake Jackson to watch third ranked lineback.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, you just got to get three more gys seventh
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  Speaker 4: round projection.
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  Speaker 2: You can be forgiven for not knowing a seventh round.
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  Speaker 1: Not a real person's fake. He's real no, I would
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  Speaker 1: have to see evidence that he's real.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and we're getting closer to the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Busy day here at Chilette. The players arrived yesterday. They're
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  Speaker 1: back from their time off. It's not mandatory, they don't
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  Speaker 1: have to be here. But I think a little over
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  Speaker 1: sixty guys were here yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: You got did you take a turn?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think sixty two to be exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that Christian Gonzalez is one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they were here and there's some availability today
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  Speaker 1: and we just found out that Mike we'll be talking
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  Speaker 1: at the podium momentarily. We will not have that live,
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  Speaker 1: but Evan will be there.
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  Speaker 2: Evan's there, so he'll have to be our conduit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. When when Evan gets back, we'll talk about and
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  Speaker 1: discuss what Mike Vrabel had to say, kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: guess that he might be talking today, just to kind
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  Speaker 1: of address he.
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  Speaker 6: You and I talked about it as the show. You know,
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  Speaker 6: we were getting ready to come on the air. I
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  Speaker 6: just thought waiting. I knew he would talk at some point,
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  Speaker 6: you know, draft weekend, but I just felt like they
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  Speaker 6: might look at that as let's do this now, get
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  Speaker 6: it out of the way, and let the draft be
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  Speaker 6: the story. Yep, you know, for the draft pick and
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  Speaker 6: all the stuff that goes into that.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll cover that when Evan gets back. He's over
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  Speaker 1: at the new media workroom in the new Balance Athletics Center.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So when he gets back, we'll discuss Also, of
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  Speaker 1: course we're gonna be talking about the draft, and I
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  Speaker 1: do have my back. I have my back of the envelope,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna wait until a little later.
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  Speaker 2: You have a lot of pack over guys this year, Freddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not really a lot. I focused on four positions
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, offensive tackle, and I threw in
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  Speaker 1: a linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: No edge.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all you guys are going to be talking
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  Speaker 1: about edge. You know, there's no there's no pound the
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  Speaker 1: table guys in any position. For me this year, I
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  Speaker 1: would agree with that, you know, So I figured I
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  Speaker 1: leave the edge to Deuce Edges. Deuce is the edge guy.
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  Speaker 1: But I've got some back of the envelope we'll talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I want to wait till Evan gets here because I
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  Speaker 1: want his reaction, not that you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, you're like, no, I I no offense taken, and
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  Speaker 6: I know you didn't mean any but there's nothing like that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, that sort of edge of satisfaction you get
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  Speaker 6: when when you say some back at the envelope guy,
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  Speaker 6: and Evan looks at good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh good, yeah, yeah, you know I know that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good player, Fred, And Fred's like, stick
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  Speaker 2: your chest out.
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  Speaker 1: So one thing I do want to talk to Evan about,
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  Speaker 1: because he came out with I don't know, mock draft
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  Speaker 1: two or three point zero, and I want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you and him, and really anyone out there beyond just
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  Speaker 1: getting clicks, what is the purpose in the goal of
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  Speaker 1: doing a mock draft if you're a draft knick.
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  Speaker 6: Right, and I would say, individually, how do you do it?
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  Speaker 6: Are you trying to get the picks right right? Are
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  Speaker 6: you doing what you think is the order that these
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  Speaker 6: players should be picked? Are you doing it based on
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  Speaker 6: needs for teams? Like I like to know what yeah,
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  Speaker 6: because I think Mike had something like that he put
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  Speaker 6: out him. I didn't really quite understand it there was
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  Speaker 6: like I think he had a trade in there of
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  Speaker 6: all the guys that he thought the Patriots could take,
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  Speaker 6: And I'm like, are you trying to predict who the
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  Speaker 6: Patriots are going to take?
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  Speaker 2: Or these are the guys that you like for the Patriots?
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  Speaker 6: Like I could see these being Patriot type players, which
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  Speaker 6: not necessarily the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: So to me, the goal should be I want to
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  Speaker 1: see how many I can get, right, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do like a first round mock draft
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  Speaker 1: or a Patriots mock draft, I want to see if
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  Speaker 1: I can think like the Patriots. And obviously no one
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  Speaker 1: knows how the board's gonna fall, but how accurate can
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  Speaker 1: I be?
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with you.
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  Speaker 6: If you're going to do a mock draft, you should
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  Speaker 6: be trying to predict, Yeah, how the players are going
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  Speaker 6: to get selected in the first So if that's the.
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  Speaker 1: Case, what with that? Other than small tweaking? What is
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  Speaker 1: the point of having two point zero three point zero?
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I asked is because like Evan and
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  Speaker 1: his two point it goes all right, this one, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to do it as if they draft a tight
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  Speaker 1: end first or whatever. It's like, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna do, like you could have four different drafts
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  Speaker 1: and make them all different than what's the point.
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  Speaker 6: I agree with you, what's the point I could see doing,
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  Speaker 6: you know, multiple versions because things change, you get information,
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  Speaker 6: because that's not what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with right, I'm gonna do this one as
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  Speaker 1: if they're doing this, well, what do you think they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do? And stick with that and then tweak it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit if like you know, okay, now I
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna trade for a J. Brown. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: maybe that changed my first round or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: or I don't take a wide receiver in the first
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  Speaker 1: three round that I can see doing a two point
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  Speaker 1: oh or three point oh, but just to like wholesale
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  Speaker 1: do a different one doesn't like then you're just playing games.
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  Speaker 1: Then then it to me, it's not the true spirit
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  Speaker 1: of a mock draft.
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  Speaker 3: So when you take a poop, you don't stare at
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  Speaker 3: it forever. You gotta flush it eventually.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I don't know what that analogy Catch twenty
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  Speaker 1: two one. Yeah, but so I want to talk.
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  Speaker 2: You don't stand for that kind of talk on this show.
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  Speaker 2: We're hybrid.
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  Speaker 1: I know Evan's going to be really mad with that
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  Speaker 1: line of questioning. But I do want to ask, like,
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  Speaker 1: what what's the purpose of doing wholesale different draft you know,
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  Speaker 1: and like, okay, which which is the one that you're
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  Speaker 1: standing by? Which is the one that you think will happen?
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  Speaker 1: So all right, that's just my little thing on mock drafts.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm with you on mock drafts. Okay.
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  Speaker 6: So Mike vrabel Is is at the.
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  Speaker 1: Podium, So do we have play by play?
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just going to read you. I guess. I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 6: Starts off a statement thing, thanking everyone for the patients
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  Speaker 6: and addressing his personal and private matter. He said he
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  Speaker 6: had a candid conversation with the Patriots players on Monday,
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  Speaker 6: which we kind of figured because that was the start
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  Speaker 6: of the the off season program. Quote, I've had some
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  Speaker 6: difficult conversations with people I care about, with my family,
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  Speaker 6: the organization, the coaches, the players, those that have been positive
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  Speaker 6: and productive. In order to be successful on and off
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  Speaker 6: the field, you have to make good decisions. That includes me.
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  Speaker 6: That starts with me. So I guess that was part
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  Speaker 6: of his statement. I'm just sort of looking to see,
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  Speaker 6: you know, as it comes in if there's anything different,
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  Speaker 6: I'll try to like have one one eye on on
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  Speaker 6: the Twitter machine and yeah, my years.
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  Speaker 1: Then the other thing. Will he take questions, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or is it just coming up there and making a statement.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think if you're gonna go to the podium,
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  Speaker 6: you have to take questions, right. I don't know, like
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  Speaker 6: when you just put a statement out, if that's all
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  Speaker 6: you were planning on doing.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe you know he wants to be look people
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  Speaker 1: in the eyes when he says. I don't know. Everybody's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different in how they approach these things.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see what he has to say.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully he addresses it and we can move on.
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  Speaker 6: I like that part of the statement, just taking accountability.
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  Speaker 6: I like that it's not fall back on Samantha's or anything. No,
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  Speaker 6: I'm that part of it I don't really care about.
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  Speaker 6: And I know, like you sort of, you know, you
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  Speaker 6: kind of with me last week, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 6: I don't really care.
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  Speaker 2: That's a personal thing, and he's right about that.
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  Speaker 6: It's a private personal matter and that's between him and
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  Speaker 6: you know, his family and the players. Yeah, again, this
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  Speaker 6: is why I am not on the team. I'll get
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  Speaker 6: back to it. And this is a perfect example. He
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  Speaker 6: owes me nothing, he owes the players something. That's the difference. Paul,
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  Speaker 6: right again, thank.
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  Speaker 1: You, So hold on, I'm getting I mean, I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: you're getting buzzed. Uh okay, So now this is just
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  Speaker 1: internal okay, nothing to do with Rabel So okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: So that's that. Well, we'll hear from Evan when he
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  Speaker 1: gets back.
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  Speaker 6: You're right, I'll be curious to see if he takes
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  Speaker 6: questions and how many, and you know how he handles those.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Probably my guess is you fall back on what Bill
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  Speaker 2: would do.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, you know I already I already address
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  Speaker 6: dressed it. I already dressed that. Yeah, I already addressed that.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So people might be wondering why I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: in a different chair. I had a little.
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  Speaker 2: Surgery.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little thing done, Achilles. They got a bone spur.
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  Speaker 6: Missed no time, very impressive, miss no time at all?
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  Speaker 6: Wellhy should I I didn't miss any either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin Falk still makes fun of me for it.
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  Speaker 1: Get right back on it. Yeah, so uh, I'm I
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  Speaker 1: can't put any weight on it for two weeks and
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  Speaker 1: then I'm in a boot for a number of weeks
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  Speaker 1: after that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not the most pleasant no surgery you have,
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  Speaker 6: but it's not it's not too bad either. You you
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  Speaker 6: said that you're doing pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have.
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  Speaker 1: Any wise, I don't. I don't have any pain or anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I can't put any weight. So it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a real pain in the ass, you know, getting around,
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  Speaker 1: although I do have this scooter here.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I saw you yesterday on the scooter a
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  Speaker 6: little bit too. But I heard today you like buzzing
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  Speaker 6: around moving around.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you go too fast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happens. You just like lift your feet
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  Speaker 2: off the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Right and you're flying. Yeah, so, uh, you gotta be
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  Speaker 1: careful going around corners. You might have it.
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  Speaker 6: I had a chance to speak in an event last
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  Speaker 6: night for John Hancock, and uh, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What Library the Great. No, it was here, Oh oh here,
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  Speaker 2: it was here at least at the stadium. It's a
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  Speaker 2: big time guy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you're off the library circuit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, although I might have had more people at the library.
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  Speaker 2: Thy Law the Great Thy Law. Yeah, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was was on hand and uh, well he's you.
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  Speaker 6: Know he's got the court of his vodka that he's peddling.
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  Speaker 6: But he's great, you know, like the great storyteller. He's
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  Speaker 6: he's a lot of fun to be around. Thy law
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  Speaker 6: brought back some good memories.
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  Speaker 1: So what were you talking about the draft?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit, yeah, but mostly just talking about my
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  Speaker 2: dealings with the team and some of the players. They
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  Speaker 2: would ask me.
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  Speaker 6: People were asking, like some of the players that I
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  Speaker 6: enjoyed covering and whatnot. What the difference is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: covering the team now as opposed to with Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 2: That was a big one.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I told the Ted Ted Washington story. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 6: I did that feature on him and suddenly became we
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  Speaker 6: became boys for a minute there. Yeah, and then I
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  Speaker 6: was like still scared to death anytime I was around him.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: All right, but it was fun. It was good to
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  Speaker 2: see ty.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. So the other story that we should probably talk about,
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  Speaker 1: and you were on radio this morning and you know
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  Speaker 1: you addressed it. But the kind of report non report
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  Speaker 1: from Adam Schefter yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Was I too much on that? No?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it really wasn't anything different. The only thing
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  Speaker 1: different I think was he used the word likely it's
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  Speaker 1: likely to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to go back and parse all the words, but
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  Speaker 2: took your word for it.
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  Speaker 1: To me, him coming out and saying that means it's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. Neither side can just say it until
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  Speaker 1: after June.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think think it's been like this
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  Speaker 6: for six I mean it's to the point Fred that
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  Speaker 6: we have a lot of our listeners here on this
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  Speaker 6: show have sort of asked us to move on and
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  Speaker 6: stop talking about AJ Brown a little bit because I
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  Speaker 6: think most people feel it's a fade of complete Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, and then yesterday Chef.
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  Speaker 6: Was like, oh, breaking news, this is going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding. You know, we've been on this for
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  Speaker 2: like six weeks.
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  Speaker 1: So Eagles had opened their off season yesterday just like
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  Speaker 1: we did, and he's not there, So I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think surprising. Yeah, so both sides are preparing for that.
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  Speaker 1: On our side, there was a report your guy Jordan Schultz.
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  Speaker 2: This now, this to me was additional information.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Schultz reported that Kayshawn Booty and this came out
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  Speaker 1: earlier too, that he's been reported to be involved in trade.
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  Speaker 2: Talks this year. No, last year, last year, absolutely last
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  Speaker 2: year last year around this time, these kind of draft
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  Speaker 2: intel roundups that Adam Schefter had, the one that he
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  Speaker 2: had on Monday that had the AJ Brown stuff, Kaishan
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  Speaker 2: Boody was one of the quote unquote veterans that was
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  Speaker 2: evidently available.
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  Speaker 1: And then yesterday Kaishan Boudi was posting from a beach
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  Speaker 1: in Miami.
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  Speaker 2: Was he yeah, I did not see this.
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  Speaker 1: So what does that mean? Like, how do you read
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  Speaker 1: into it? It's just in other words, he wasn't here.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't here, and he was tweeting that he wasn't here,
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  Speaker 1: or he wanted he wanted it known that he wasn't here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, maybe if the report from Jordan Schultz is accurate,
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  Speaker 1: he knows he's part.
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  Speaker 2: Of So would you do the answer? I'm going to guess.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to put words in your mouth for Freddy,
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  Speaker 6: but I'm going to guess your answer is no to this.
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  Speaker 6: But like, would you do a second round pick in
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  Speaker 6: Kaishan Boody for a J Brown second.
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  Speaker 1: Round pick in Kaishan Boody?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, you would. I figured with Kaishan Booty involved, you'd
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  Speaker 6: say no.
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  Speaker 1: I I like Kishan BOUTI. I think his arrow is
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  Speaker 1: pointing in the right direction. But if you get aj Brown,
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  Speaker 1: it's you're almost becoming like the Red Sox outfield. You
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  Speaker 1: got a kind of a logjam in that room, right,
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  Speaker 1: you got to get it rid of somebody.
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  Speaker 6: I agree, you know, I agree that the chances are
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  Speaker 6: someone would have to go because that's the draft is
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  Speaker 6: going to be part of that too. Did the Patriots
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  Speaker 6: draft a receiver at some point?
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  Speaker 7: You know?
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  Speaker 6: And I don't mean like in the sixth round, right, No,
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  Speaker 6: one of the you know, one of the top hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think, I think you might be able
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  Speaker 1: to get a J. Brown for Kaishan Booty in a
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  Speaker 1: third round pick.
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  Speaker 6: But that that's that's kind of what I was thinking,
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  Speaker 6: not necessarily that you're hell bent on not trading Booty,
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  Speaker 6: but more so like if it's Booty, I mean that's
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  Speaker 6: straight up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured you'd be.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's still going to have to give somebody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, listen, if I'm another team and I see
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  Speaker 1: what Booty did, I like it. I mean I liked
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  Speaker 1: it being on the Patriots. Like every time he was
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  Speaker 1: asked to do something, he did it.
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  Speaker 2: I think I said those exact words for me earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I did the mother show.
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  Speaker 6: But no, but like for the last two for the
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  Speaker 6: last for the last two years, basically every time he's
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: been asked to do something, he's been able to.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Produce, and and not just short little underneath no, I
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: mean like no, really highlight reel catches.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I would agree.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: I don't think that he's ever going to be sort
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: of your big volume guy. The only place that you
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: and I disagree is I think you feel like he
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: has this next level to get to, and I think
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: he's kind of at the level he is. Okay, I
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: think we both agree that the level he is isn't bad.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I like the player. I think he's been really good.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I think he was. I think it was really good
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: for them this past year.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Two years ago, I may have been guilty of, well,
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: someone had to catch the passes in a miserable season,
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: you know, when you won four games last year, As
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: you said, a lot of big plays downfield in big
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: spots in games.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: So again, every time they asked him to do something,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: he produced.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: So I think he is. I think he's an asset
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: that other teams would be interested in, and I think
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that him being part of an aj Brown deal can
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: actually lower what you'd have to give in terms of
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: draft pick.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Now, No, I think that's fair.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Now, we're all talking about the Eagles in aj Brown,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: but there could be some other things out there that
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are looking at as well.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: They might be able to get a draft pick back
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: in return as well. Right, it's one of those pick swap.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: Maybe you go a two in.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Booty for Brown and a five right and you know
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: who knows.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But you might maybe they're looking at a tight end
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: from another team, or maybe they're looking at a tackle
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: from another Like I think Booty's an asset, and I
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: think you've got obviously your draft picks. I wouldn't rule
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: out a trading. You know, the Giants just had a
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: big trade with the Bengals. I think I think that's
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the balls trade by both sides.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I like that trade for the Bengals a lot.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: So if people hadn't heard, Dexter Lawrence got traded from
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the Giants over to the Bengals for their first round pick,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: number ten, tenth overall, that's that's a high pick.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: Some people thought that was surprisingly high. Some people thought, now,
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: that's in line with the kind of player that Dexter
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: Lawrence is. I think it's semantics. I think it's a
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: good trade. I like the way you said.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: It was ballsy trade for both teams. I like it
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: for the Bengals though, I mean their defense is obviously
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: starred for talent. So this is a guy who's going
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: to be motivated now he's getting his money. He's going
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: to be motivated, and maybe he doesn't I don't know.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: Maybe he will see just as many double teams there.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: But I think that's a.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I always look at it when you're trading away a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: first round pick, is the age of the player that
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you're getting in return? And could you possibly be getting
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: somebody that you know is better in the draft. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I think the answer is no. You know. So it's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a good trade by the Bengals and it's a good
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: trade by the Giants.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Giants.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: So the Giants are one of those teams that a
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: lot of people think can be sneaky good this year.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Right away, I think people are really believing the Jackson
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: dunt right.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: It's all about the quarterback, but it's also Harbaugh.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: I think people think you have some stability at the
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: head coach position.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: I've always liked John Harbar as a coach, but maybe
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: starting to like it a little bit less in recent years,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: but just because I think they're so talented and for
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: whatever reason, they haven't been able to consistently. You know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: last year was obviously a disaster for them, but even
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: you know, getting knocked out in the playoffs the last
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: couple of years.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yep, I don't know. I think he's a good coach,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: but I'm not sure he's a great.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Coach, all right, So those things are bubbling around any
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: other NFL stuff going on.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: So did you happen to see the Justin Jefferson comments
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: with regard to JJ McCarthy.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I did not.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't have it right in front
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: of me, so I don't want to miss quote him,
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: but basically paraphrasing him, he feels like McCarthy's got still
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: some ways to go, you know.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I think you know Vikings think that too.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: It's clear that Kevin O'Connell wanted to bring in Kyler
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Murray not just to light a fire under JJ McCarthy,
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: but to play I had this argument when it happened.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: I don't think that they made that move to give
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: him a veteran backup, and I don't think Murray signs
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: there if he thinks he's signing as a veteran backup.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: So I think there's certainly.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: Some signs that McCarthy either is going to really have
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: to improve dramatically or he's going to be in trouble.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: He's going to be probably moving on to another team
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: sooner than later. You know, this is year three now.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: If you're not establishing yourself as a starter by year three, yep,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: then you're in bus territory.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I'd love to pull Jess Jefferson over to here, but
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: That'll Where did you get? How did you get there?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: If he's unhappy, he's not unhappy.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Who said anything about to be an unhappy?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: He doesn't think they have a quarterback.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: I think he's excited about Kyler Murray. That was the
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: whole thing.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: We'll see now.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Maybe he won't be as excited in September, but I
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: think right now I think he's looking at it as
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: an upgrade.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: All right. So that's that's pretty that's I haven't heard
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: any other big stories coming out. Oh well, what do
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you think about the Cowboys making Aubrey the highest paid kicker.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I kind of had to do that, didn't they It.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Was seven million a year or something.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know me, I'm I'm sort of
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: one of those. You know, everybody has a kicker, they're
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: all basically the same.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: He's the best.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: So if not, if the best doesn't get the most
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: money at that position, then who does. If I were
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: a Cowboys fan, the one thing I would worry about
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: is does this give Jerry Jones an excuse to sort
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: of skimp around the rest of the roster and not
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: make as many because well, we got our cacker. He's
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: famous for that. Like, well, you know i'd pay ceedee lamb.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: So you know, Micah Parsons has got to go right, Well,
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: you can pay them both, you have to. You know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: extremely talented players. They should be getting more money. That
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: would be My one concern with the Cowboys is that
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: they think making the kicker the highest paid kicker in
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: football is significantly improving your team.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm trying to I'm going through the league
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in my head and I don't I haven't heard any
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: other back.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: And I haven't heard a ton of you know, it'll
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: start probably now, like when you start hearing these little
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: tidbits for Thursday night right where you know someone you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: like the Reuben Bain situation. There is an off field
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: issue with him that supposedly was common knowledge among all
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: the NFL teams. So I don't think that necessarily will
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: impact him.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: His short arms. Could you know.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: That that could cause him to drop? But I haven't
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: really heard anything.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: A couple of guys on my back of the envelope
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: have some off field stuff.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: But oh well, that's why they're on the back of
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the envelope.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Thinking that they could be steals and bring him into
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the right environment. We'll straighten him out, but we'll see.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that whenever gets here. Eight five to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the hotline.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think he took questions, okay, but I'm efforting
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to find that out there.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Care for that. Podcasts at Patriots dot com is the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: email address. John and Louisiana writes in Deuce was somewhat
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: anti Aj Brown, saying he wants to draft and develop
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and let Drake build with a young guy. Now when
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: AJ's on our team in two months, emphasis on our team.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Paul can't wait to hear Douce say this is exactly
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: what Drake needs.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I'm only kidding, but I still would like to draft
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the first round. Hashtag Denzel Boston.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Hashtag by you if they trade for aj Brown, he
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: still wants to draft a wide receiver in the first round.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's got much of a chance of happening.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Well, if it does, you're going to see other guys
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: get yeah, get let go.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: So now I'm a little confused there is.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Mark Daniel says that Rabel indicated that Kaisham Booty communicated
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: with the team that he wouldn't be in Foxboro at
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: the start of the off season workout program. So maybe
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: he did take some questions but didn't take any more
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: questions on.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: On that the Russini situation. I don't know. I'm just
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: trying to get caught up here on We'll get.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It straight from Evan. Yeah, Jared in la little technical.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Just want to report that as of two weeks, the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: podcast has gotten so quiet I have to max volume
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: in my car to even hear it, forget about hearing
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it on my phone. Not sure what you're doing on
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: your end during export. Well, we got to look at that.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Matt Morrell, Oh.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Where is he listening from? And there's a lot of
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: questions to that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I heard somebody else say the same thing,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and I sent it to Chris Ferrera.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: You said it to me as well, and Ace and
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: I looked into it and we can't figure out where
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: they're listening from because everything's on normal on everybody's phone's here.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, a couple of people are saying it, so
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: What kind of a program you're running in there.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: It may not be the.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Live version, it could be just no, no, we listened
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: to the podcast back, We listened to the YouTube back.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're listening to it. We're here too, all right,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: all right, so no, so so I'm talking to our
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: listeners right now. If you're having audio problems, give us
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: some information. Are you listening on your phone? Are you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: listening through your car and you're listening you know, on
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: YouTube on TV? Like, how are you listening to it?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: And have you tried other ways? So perfect? Thank you.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Here's Evan. Here's Evan, So the man of the hour.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Everybody's waiting for you from the press conference.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Well, we're waiting for your report, because obviously we didn't
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: cover Mike Rabel live, so yes we we. We sort
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of got some tidbits off of social.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Media chunk of his opening statement, but you were.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: There, tell us what you thought happened.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just say that the two biggest, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: cliff notes version, the two most important things were he
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: addressed the team about it on Monday on the first
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: day of the off season. Program said he had a
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: candid conversation with the team on Monday, and then he
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: also said that he's you know, obviously he had an
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: open door and anybody that has any individual questions and
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: things like that, any conversations players want to have about it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And then I would say the.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Number two things would just be, you know, it's up
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: on the wall in the auditorium. It says make good decisions,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and he said that starts with me.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You know, I have to Soda made a bad decision.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: He did not say that directly, but he said that,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: you know, we have to make good decisions and that
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: starts with me. So uh, you know, obviously he called
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: it a person matter, and that was pretty much pretty
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: much it. That was pretty much the summation of what Okay,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the most important pieces of it that he said.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: He didn't take questions on it, right, He did take
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: a few.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was necessarily the intention, but he
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: did take a few, and you know, basically didn't comment
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: much further on any of it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: So did people try to ask him questions and he
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: said there were no, No, he wasn't taking questions on that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: That work pretty much so after the press, after he
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: made his statement at the podium, he sat down with
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the media in like a scrum style and answered some
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: answered some questions that were ninety percent football. I would
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: say it turned to football eventually. There were a few
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: at the top that were about the ish, the you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: what was happening off the field, but most of it
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: turned to football by the end. You know, the draft,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: you know, things like that. But it was he didn't
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: really go into too much detail after the statement.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: And did he say this is it. I've addressed it,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: We're moving on. I think that's the hope.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think he said that those directly, that those
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: direct words, but I think the hope is, you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: the other thing, I would just mention that he meant
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: that he said that, I thought of when we talked
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: about off the air pol is just not sending the
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: players out there before he himself got out there first.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeh. And today it made a lot of today.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, today, you know, I'm sure you guys talked about it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: But was supposed to be the first day of player
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: availability in the off season program. Usually they send out captains,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you know, guys that were captains the year before that
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: are back.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: On the team this year.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: And he didn't want to send players out there to
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: speak with the media before he addressed the issue, so
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: he came out of it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So what was his comportment, would you know? And I
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: say this, I actually want to know, because, like you know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Mike Rabel, he's an alpha guy. He comes out, he
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: owns the room and all that stuff. Was he a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: little bit, you know, step back from that or was
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: he the same Mike Vrabel?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I would say maybe a little bit step back from
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: that kind of like maybe a little vulnerable, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: like I mean, it's a personal matter. This is not
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: you didn't make, you know, a coaching mistake in a
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: game or something like that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: This is a personal thing, you know.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: He said he had a lot of really hard conversations
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: with people that he cares a lot about, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: whether that's here in the building or at home or whatever.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And so you know, that was a little bit of
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: a different side. I think, you know, I would say
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: that it wasn't you know, there's no doubt that he's
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: still the guy that he is, but there was there
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: was a little bit more vulnerability there than usual.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, all right, so hopefully that's that's done with
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: media a lot of draft buzz from from the gang.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it was interesting, you know, the way
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that they did it. It was pretty strategic, honestly, because
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the only people that were really there were the beat writers,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you know, So it wasn't like he was he didn't
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: have like, you know, the news guys. No one was
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: asking him, right, we didn't luckily have any of that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: So it was really just the hardcore beat writers that
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: come to these things. And you know, for the most part,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and you know, we've talked about it on the show before,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of them, you know, myself included, have have
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: some sort of rapport with him at this point because
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: we've spent a lot of time with him. Frankly, so
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: like this isn't you know, it's as uh, hostile, hostile
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: as it could possibly be because of the fact that
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: he has developed over the past year plus.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: You know, well that's that's p R one O one
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: and he coach should take note. Develop those relationships because
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: they'll come into play. It's it's tough to be tough
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: on somebody you like, yeah, you know, or at least
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you have to think twice about it. So all right,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: well we'll move on from that. But I do have
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of emails coming in about the sound Matt
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Morrell lower than anything I play.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: But you also have a couple in there saying I
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: listened from the same source and it sounds fine.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, oh Fred, picking and choosing.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm reading them all low on my laptop.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I'm forwarding them all to myself right now so I
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: can talk to chat about it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, So we won't go to each one, all right,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: got a little window into Fred's soul right there, pick
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and choosing the negative.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: No, I'm reading them all, okay, So Evan, yes, we
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: got it good.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: More important matter.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: He hasn't shared them with me because he wanted to
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: get your reaction. Do you want to start off with
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: your other question for Evan that you.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, so we're talking about mock drafts.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, and Mike Rabel said that they're doing mock drafts
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Sure. Why do you think they do mock drafts same
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: reason anybody does them.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I think that they're trying to go through different scenarios
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: so that on Thursday night they're not caught in the
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: situation that they haven't prepared for, you know, so they
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: go through the all the Let's say they think that
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: there's twenty different ways that this draft could go, so
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: let's run through it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So they're so the way they do it is, like
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you said, to prepare for any scenario. Yeah, they don't
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: want to be caught unprepared, obviously. The idea is they
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: want to be They hope to be as accurate as possible. Yes,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Why do you think like draft knicks like yourself do
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: mackra what's the goal other than just getting clicks? What's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the goal of doing a mock draft?
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: Certainly the number one goal is getting.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Closed I would say the number I think it's a
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: combination of doing the same sort of thing of trying
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: to figure out how the board is going to shake out.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I also think that it's good in terms of I
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: read them a lot more, uh, to see what other
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: teams are doing ahead of the Patriots, so I can
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: maybe figure out who's going to be left right for
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: the Patriots at thirty one team needs, you know, I
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people probably center their mock draft
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: picks around you know what each team needs, you know
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: at the top, and uh, you know someone that covers
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: just the Patriots. It's sometimes harder to know what all
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: thirty one other teams are thinking and planning.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: For the draft.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: So those are are good strategies for that, But mostly
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I would say it's just like knowing who are the
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: thirty two guys that everybody kind of expects to go
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: in the first.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Would you say that one of the goals is to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: see how accurate you can be?
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: That's always the goal, right, I mean you want to
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: at least have some sort of semblance of accuracy.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: To come out with a mock draft, and then you know,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: maybe based on information that you got, you might tweak it, yes, right,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: tweak it yes? So what then is the purpose of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: coming out with a mock draft two point zero or
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: three point zero? That's totally different.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So I think that I'll give you a couple of examples. One,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I look at the Patriots draft plans right now, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I think the most likely scenario is that they're either
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: going to draft an edge rusher or a tackle in
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: the first round offensive tackle. So I did one mock
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: draft where they took the tackle, and I did one
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: mock draft where they took the edge rusher. Because then
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: obviously your next you know, ten picks are going to
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: change based off of what plick you took in the
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: first so it kind of just changes the order in
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: which you attack things. You know, if you take the
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: edge rusher in the first round versus the tackle. You know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: obviously there's new information, Like we did a mock draft
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: video Deuce and I last week where we both took
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: receivers pretty high. Deuce took Denzel Boston in the first round. Well,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: yesterday Adam Schefter reported that AJ Brown's right basically basically
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: a Patriot. So if I did a mock draft two
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, or they took Denzel Boston at thirty one,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: and now Adam Schefter is telling me that A. J.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Brown is basically a Patriot already, then I'm probably am
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: going to change the fact that they're going to take
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: a fair enough.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand where some people do totally different
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: mock drafts just just to do them, you know. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's just going through my questions. All right,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: So which one are you standing by? Which which version
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: of your draft do you think is what's going to happen? Yeah,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: so I try to approach it well.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: First of all, I would say for both I don't
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: speak for him, but for both dues and our big
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: boards is like kind of our thing, right, So like
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: if I had to say, what's my like board of record,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: you know, if like I get something right, I would
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: say getting guys that they drafted right on the big boards,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: not the mock drafts.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: We just do because they have fifty guys on your
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: big board. We did.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: So you want to get like you know, I think
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: you want to get at least three.
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: If you get four or five, then you do pretty well.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I just just curious.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's it's fair. I mean, I'm gonna be
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: honest with you. I think the number one thing is
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: that people read them. Oh yeah, Like it's it's as simple.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying don't do mock drafts. I just
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the two point zero three point zero, Like,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: are you trying to be right or you're just covering
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: every base.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I think you're trying to cover every base and you're
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: trying to go through different scenarios. Like I said, this draft,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take a tackle in the first round.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: This draft, I'm gonna take an edge rusher in the
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: first round, And here's how the rest of the draft
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: will play out.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: So then if one of your drafts, if one of
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: your mock drafts is more accurate than another, do you
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: take credit for being right? You know, like if you
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: have ten draft mock drafts out there, like, yeah, which
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: one do you take credit for?
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: I think the final you gotta go at the final,
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: final one.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: The final one is what you think, Okay, you really
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: think is going to happen, if you if that's your
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: if you're a mock draft peron, we only did too
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: like we did. We try not to do too many
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: of them, all right, yeah, the final one.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: All right, So that's that's that's my mot drafting. Now,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Dane Brugler has his top one hundred, let's get to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the real I noticed that in his top one hundred. Yes,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: thirty four of his top one hundred or either wide
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: receivers or edge.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of them.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: That tells you right there what he thinks of this draft.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the head rushers is you know, I think the
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: interesting thing in Rabels mentioned this in the scrum after
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: the statement today. There's a lot of different variables with
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the head rushers. There's different body types, shape, sizes, guys
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: that are some guys are twenty some guys are twenty five,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you know, age wise, So it's a lot of different
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: variables that aren't necessarily just let's create the tape. It's well,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: do we want you know, Elliot Wolf mentioned speed off
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: the edge last week, like do do you want speed?
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Do you want power? Do you want size? Do you
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: want do you not like guys that are a little
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: bit older, you know, in a little bit lower ceiling
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: because of their age, you know, like all these different
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: variables that go into it. I think makes it hard
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: when there's such a deep class like this.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so I did my draft, my back
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: of the envelope. Now, all these guys they cannot be
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: in anyone's top one hundred. That was sort of the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: rule I had for myself, like they have to be
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: true back sleepers or maybe steals if because of for
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, and I only focused on four positions. I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: did wide receiver, tight end, offensive tackle, and I threw
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: in a linebacker. I didn't do edge. So I'm gonna
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: let Deuce handle the edges.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to guess I never heard of any of
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: these guys.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I think you might have. Okay, so I'm
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: gonna be disappointed in you pretty deep. So I did
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a couple of wide receivers, okay, right. The first guy
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: is uh, his name is Kobe Young from Georgia, yep.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Six to four, ran a four five, So he's not
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a huge burner. Missed six games because he had a fibula.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: But I think he's got a lot of talent. He
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: has some off field stuff though, so that's that could
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: drop him a little bit. And the fact that he
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: he uh, you know, missed some games. But I think
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that like he's able to recognize, you know, good route
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: sitting in zones, he gets open, he's got good hands.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Obviously he's got good size at six', Four SO i
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: think this is a guy who you might be able
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to get in the fourth or fifth. Route.
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah highweight speed guy for.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Sure you know he's big, dude good, speed got those long,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: strides builds up speed over the course of the.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Route.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Uh you, know can see him using his size and
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: his ability to kind of just you, know play basketball
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: with guys and just post up and go above the
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: rim and win the ball down the. Field he has
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: some sinking cut ability for a taller. Guy, yep you
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: mentioned the red. Flags you, know he's got injury, History
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: he's got some off field. Things if that stuff didn't,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: happen then maybe we're talking about him as a top
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: one hundred.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Guy but it, did so he's A day three.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Prospect but if you're looking for a guy that you're
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: just willing to, bet you, KNOW i it's not totally
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: apples to, apples but a Little javon baker, ish you,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: know if you if you think you can be the
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: right team for him and the right, fit you, know culture,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: wise then he's got the talent.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Of a player that should have been drafted. Higher so
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the other guy kind of falls in that same. Bucket
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: he's got A. Tcu Eric, McAllister, yeah oh, yeah this one's.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Okay go. Ahead so you, know we've got a lot
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of problems With, yeah he has a lot of, problems
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: BUT i think if you get him in the right,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: PLACE i think he wants to play, football you know.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: HE i mean When fred had him in for a thirty,
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: visit he thought football was important to.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Him. Yeah and you, know like with all those, problems
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: he had a lot of. Production last. Year this guy
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: had over eleven hundred, yards seventy two, catches ten. Touchdowns he,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Produces he's got. Talent if he can get his head,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i think this guy could be a.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Steal there's no doubt about another big body guy and
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: you know outside receiver has you, know good, tape good
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: tape against good. Competition there were multiple off the field
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: red flags with him with the. Law, yeah he had
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: assault with a deadly, WEAPON i, believe.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: But she dropped that. ONE i think she. Did, yeah
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: but there was a. Couple, Yeah so it's not just
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: one big character.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: GUY i Think dane had him as like maybe a
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: six or seventh round. Pick he's certainly more talented than.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: THAT i don't know if he's going to get drafted
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: because the teams are gonna have to feel really good
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: about him off the.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Field so that's two wide. Receivers so the tight, END
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: i got a couple tight ends for. You Tanner coozial
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: out Of. Houston, yep big six, six little thin for
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: six six two forty seven for. Seven not bad for that, size, Right.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: YEP i looked at. It he's a good ball. Catcher
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: he's not a blocker yet. Anyway and by the, way
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: most of these tight, ends they all it's the same.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Thing decent catcher needs. Development there's only like one guy
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: THAT i read about who is a block first tight
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: end that's like worth talking.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: About, yeah there's usually it's definitely one or the. Other you,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: know in a lot of instances in this, class you're
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: either a pure blocking tight end or you're a pure
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: receiving tight.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: End.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah obviously the.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Guys that are well rounded Or Tyler warren and they
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: go in the top fifteen of the, draft, Right so
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: that's that's kind of where we're.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: At, Yeah so this, GUY i like his, Size he
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: is a good, catcher he wants to, block he's just
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: not that good at. It like it's not like he won't,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Block like he's just not that great a. Blocker so
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: maybe with some. Coaching but he's another guy that had
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: decent production last. Year, yeah seventy four catches over seven hundred.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Yards, yeah one of THE i would, say maybe the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: best hands in the entire tight end. Class like he's
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: guy has really really good ball, skills like really catch the,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: football catch it in, traffic you, know combat catches one on,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: one catches back, shoulders high point the, ball catches everything
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: thrown in his, direction has a little you, know a
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: little bit OF i would, say just overall play strength,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: concerns whether it's, blocking carving out space for, himself winning
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: at the top of the. Route his game kind of
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit Of Mike, Gasiki Like day,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Three Mike. Kasiki you, know he's probably not going to
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: block for, you but a guy that can catch the
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: football and make some plays in the passing. Game had
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: a really good game AGAINST. Lsu you. Know So houston's
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: not a big.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Game and we talked About drake may and like maybe
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: he prefers the bigger. Targets so this guy certainly falls
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: into that catchy.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: YEP i think he'll probably be a pretty good red
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: zone player for you as, well just because you can
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: kind of get him one on one and throw him
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: the ball up to.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Him. Yeah now the next, GUY i don't Think paul's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: gonna la BECAUSE i think he's a try hard. Guy Jack,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Velling michigan state that What i'm not as familiar with
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: six four seven. Five WHAT i like about him is
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: he's another guy that wants to, block just needs some.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Work but EVERYTHING i, read he's got a really high FOOTBALL.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Iq so worst, case he'll be probably a good special you,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: know he'll be special teams or. Whatever but he's a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: smart football, player is what the coaches. Say stump me
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: with that, One so there you. Go, Yeah Jack, Velling michigan.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Usually stumps me with like, one one or. Two i'm, like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: so so.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Take a look at. Him THEN i got a. COUPLE
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: i ACTUALLY i have three ots THAT i. Picked now
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: these you, know.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: It's not a deep.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Class, yeah with offensive, tackle it's a little. Weird ONE
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: i did for obvious. Reasons And i'll get to him.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Last but uh the first One Isaiah world out Of.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Oregon yeah too? Bad What, yeah so he does he
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: does have the bad, knee he had the a C.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: L he might have left tackle, potential at least they, say,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: yes six five three Eighteen. Dane, yeah, no, no our
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: our lads maybe said. That so WHAT i do IS
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: i first go to our, lads THEN i go To
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: dane to see what he. Has THEN i look at,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: highlights SO i don't like to see. THEM i don't
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: see the all twenty. Two i'm not watching. All how
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: did he do AGAINST LSU a lot.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Of that's same kind of.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Stuff, yeah but thirty four over thirty four inch arm span,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: yep you. Know so you, know if you want to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: take a he could probably go in the fourth. Round
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: you could probably get.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: Him, Yeah so it depends on the.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Injury so he blew out his knee in the college football,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: playoffs so it was late in the. Season, yeah which
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: is a bummer BECAUSE i think we would have been
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: talking About Isaiah world for The patriots in like the
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: third or fourth, round like maybe even as soon as
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: ninety five if that hadn't. Happened so talented kid as
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: all the. MEASURABLES a bigger guy to me like cast
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: a wide. Net you, know somebody that can absorb power
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: and protect pass protect pretty. Well LIKE i, SAID i
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: think that he would have been, Him mark Hal, Bell Travis,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: burke like all these guys that we talk about in
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: that third or fourth round range for The. Patriots Isaiah
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: world talent, wise is right. THERE i don't know where
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: teams will draft him because he's he's gonna have the
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: red shirt his rookie.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: SEASON i don't think he's gonna play as a rookie
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: because of the.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Knee all. Right so then another, guy local guy you,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: know went to B. C Jude bowery six five three fourteen. Language, yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: NOW i guess. Uh they say he plays too high,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: sometimes but he's another guy that might have left tackle potential.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yep but Obviously i'd like to get him in here
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and see if he can play right.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Tackle, YEAH i think you can play both tackle. Spots
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: really explosive. PLAYER i, think you, know he's one of
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: those guys THAT i LIKE bc linemen that can really
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: get out of his. Hands both him And Logan taylor
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: are two guys THAT i think are going to get
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: drafted pretty high From Boston. College he is working with
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: the Goat Dante scarnekia this. Offseason both of them are At.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: BOWERY i think really right now is working on his.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Punch his punch is a little bit predictable in a
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: little bit weak outside, hand had a little bit of,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: issues especially against. T. J parker And clemson with protecting
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: his outside. Edge guys just powering right through his. Punch
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: so he's got to work on. That but the, foot
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: the foot, speed the, athleticism the body, control all of
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: that is there to be a really really good blocker
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: on the, move especially he can really get out and
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: out in space and.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: BLOCKS i got two more players, overall one more tackle
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and this GUY i picked because of his, pedigree but
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: also because of his. Nastiness this guy's a nasty. PLAYER
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: i think you know Who i'm. Talking, well there's a.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Couple Nolan Roucci Penn. State, yes, okay obviously the son
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Of todd Toddy ton used to be a player. HERE
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a good player Play bill Park state say three, ten
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a little thin for six, eight but like work ethic
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: out of the out of the, park like this, guy
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: and he knows. Football he's he works. HARD i think
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: he's very because of, that very. COACHABLE i think you
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: get him in here and you've got yourself a.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Player, yeah so you know him And VEGA A vega
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: is gonna go in the first, round, Right he's going
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: to be a top twenty. Player but they like to
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: mix it, up you, know like they like to, finish
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: they like to get after.
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: It you can see it with both those.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Guys someone's gonna draft him because they were watching and they, said,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: well we can't get on it's gonna he's gonna go too.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: High but we really like this other kid, too and
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: someone will take him On day three and they'll get a.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Player so keep your eyes open For. Nolan. Okay and then,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: FINALLY i always like to have a. Linebacker i'm very
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: accurate with my. Linebackers there weren't Very there weren't a
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: lot of, again AND i Told paul, THIS i didn't
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: have any pound the table guys this year anyways anywhere Really,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: no Justin jefferson's.
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: No.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah but here's a late round, guy a. Linebacker Xavian
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: surry junior From arkansas six twenty, eight runs a four to.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Six he's obviously a very developmental. Player probably will be
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: on your special teams whoever he gets, drafted if he gets.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Drafted but he's got a violent knack to, him and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: people have said that to, him, like you, know you,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: know there's a violence in your, game and he always
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: he smiles whenever he wants to be known as a violent,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Player and obviously that's a word That rabel uses a,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Lot SO i, figured, okay that's a. Match.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: YEAH i think there's a you, know a couple guys
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: at linebacker at the end of the of the draft
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: that are probably profiled mainly as special. Teamers but when
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: he you, KNOW i, KNOW kJ BRIT's gonna play some special.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Teams But Jack gibbons has, Gone Jelani tavai has, Gone
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Marte mapu has, gone three guys that played a lot.
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: In the kicking game for The patriots s last.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Year so if they do end up double, DIPPING i,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: think you, know your guy's probably not gonna project as
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: like a starting linebacker in the, league, Right SO i
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: think they probably need somebody a little bit earlier to do.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: That but if they end up double, dipping then maybe
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: some of these guys at the back end of the
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: draft could be core special teamers slash fourth, linebackers you,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: know guys like that kind of like what they got
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: last year out Of, mapu which you know they.
• 50:25
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• 53:24
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• 53:29
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• 53:32
  Speaker 4: options whether that's going, up going, back whatever the case may.
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: Be, well do you think that you guys have improved
• 53:39
  Speaker 12: this team from the one that walked up the field
• 53:42
  Speaker 12: at The Super bowl to this point in the off.
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: Season, YEAH i think.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: So you, know some of the free agent moves that
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: we've we've done primarily that because we haven't done a
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: lot of other. Things but, YEAH i think, so and
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: then we'll continue to supplement. It we've we've definitely increased
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: our flexibility in terms of like what exactly the. Needs you, know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: again the needs on paper are just for this. Year but,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: YEAH i THINK i think we've.
• 54:05
  Speaker 12: Improved, well you're between age of some starters expiring contracts
• 54:11
  Speaker 12: or fulloming, payments and the drafts previous to the last
• 54:15
  Speaker 12: year which was, great which didn't really yield a.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Lot you might have a lot of depth, issues.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Are you looking?
• 54:20
  Speaker 12: At really we'll concentrate on the first floor, picks but
• 54:25
  Speaker 12: kind of could use all eleven to take your shots
• 54:28
  Speaker 12: and build depth at different.
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: Positions, YEAH i, MEAN i THINK i think depth is important.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Obviously you, KNOW i think the more picks that you,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: have the better chances you have of hitting on. Players
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: it puts you, know like we have four six is
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: right now that you, know if we had one, six
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: it probably puts more pressure on that, player, uh to you,
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: know or push more pressure on.
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: Us to have that player be.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Successful but, yeah, NO i THINK i think you, know
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: every team has is different in terms of where the depth.
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: IS i think we have depth at some.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Positions would like to improve depth at, others AND i
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: don't think that's.
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: Unique what do you like to see from here to the?
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: Draft as far as you.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Mentioned it is not, finalized perhaps what conversations do you
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: like to have.
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: To so that when you get ready to, go you're
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: good to.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: Go in ABC, D, yeah, REALLY i would say kind
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: of combining information like we have we have four players
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: here today on pre draft visits and just making, sure you,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: know getting with the coaches and seeing how those. Went
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: we zoom or the coaches zoom a lot of players
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: to try to get a feel for. Them you, know
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: how this guy fit in my? Room is he going
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: to be able to learn multiple? Positions is he just
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: going to be a one position?
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: Guy you, know year?
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: One and just kind of having continue to compile all
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: that information and make sure that we're drafting the guys
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: that are going to have the best chance to.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Succeed quest about a couple of, veterans any updates on
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: everything standing With Christian gonzales and are you guys keeping
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: the door open with The eagles for a J Brown.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: No, no No gonzales update other Than i'll continue to
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: publicly say that we Want christian, here and again he's under,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: contract so we would expect.
• 55:59
  Speaker 13: That but.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: As far as players and other, teams, again going to
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: keep the door open to anything that we think may
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: improve our, roster whether that's with the player you mentioned
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: or other.
• 56:12
  Speaker 14: Players there's a report that this year making up more
• 56:15
  Speaker 14: of a trade heavy. Draft that's something that you already
• 56:18
  Speaker 14: offense or do you feel like that was like, YEAH.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, AGAIN i THINK i think that can sometimes
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: be tough to. Predict you, know there's there's always waves
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: within a, Draft LIKE i think it was maybe the
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: sixth round last, year there was like a a rush of,
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: trades you, know like four right in a. ROW i
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: don't know how people know, That, LIKE i don't know
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: if the report that you saw was more first, Round
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: like maybe it's true for the first. Round i've already
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: heard that there's no one's no one's called us yet
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: just But i've already heard that there's teams that are
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: that have been calling around looking to move up kind
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: of more in the front end of the.
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: Draft BUT i think we'll just kind of continue to
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: monitor it and see what.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Happens how involved might be the three draft meetings of
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: course last week very. INVOLVED i, mean you, know business as.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: Usual he's been in. THERE i would say he's been
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: in there with. Us probably put this around. Me he's
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: probably little bit more than he was last, year just
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: BECAUSE i, know you, know.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: There's the coaching.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Staff he's probably more this is me putting words in his,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: mouth probably more comfortable just where things stand from that.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Standpoint but he's been in, there he's been. Contributing he's
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: watched a ton of the. PLAYERS i think he tries
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: to watch every player, that like we give each position.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Coach he watches that whole they call it the coaches,
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: list and so he has an opinion on these, guys
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: and it's it's helpful and because sometimes there's you, know
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: there's players that the scouts like me, included and he'll be, like,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: well this is the reason that maybe this guy's not
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: the best fit for. Us and so you, know we
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: can again continue to compile all the information.
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: Together you ran down some of.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: The positions in the draft role you'd mentioned it the
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: combine looking at a linebacker in the, Draft so what
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: are your thoughts on.
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: That position as a whole in this year's. Class, YEAH
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: i think it's.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: SOLID i think it's probably a little bit similar to
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: the way it was last. Year maybe for me at,
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: LEAST i thought there WERE i thought it was gonna
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: be a little bit better then maybe it's that's come.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Out BUT i do think it's a good Position day
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: three from a depth, STANDPOINT i think there's a lot
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: of players that you could justify using A day three.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Pickup mentioned the thirty visits having players and you max
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: out on, those And i'm.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Important are those do you when you ultimately turn in the.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Car, yeah we we will use all thirty and plus
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: because you get to you, know we get we GET
• 58:30
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• 58:32
  Speaker 4: that didn't come in for a local day have come,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: in you know. Separately it's it's very, important and we
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: bring guys in for for a variety of. Reasons, uh you,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: know whether it's to get, medical to get them in
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: front Of. Mike, uh you, know if it's a guy
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: we like that doesn't have a lot of red flags, like,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Hey mike's gonna love this, guy we do some of,
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: that don't TELL mi like, that and then, uh you,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: know whether if there's some questions about the character they're,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: learning or you, know the fit or the position, fit
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: or you, know again like one THAT i mentioned, earlier
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: like we think this guy is definitely going to be
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: able to PLAY x, receiver but we want to bring
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: him in and make sure that we think he can you,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: know play multiple spots and how early could that, Be
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: so that there's a variety of reasons that we bring guys.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: In and they've they've been they've been great this. YEAR i,
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: mean you, know we haven't eliminated anyone as as as
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: we've done in.
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: The, past so it's been it's been. Positive what are the,
• 59:25
  Speaker 8: analytics how do they play what you?
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Do and how have you continued over the years to
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: have the numbers come?
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: In? Yeah with what your?
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: Gout, Yeah so we Hired Max, mullets who was previous
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: with The, dolphins and he's he's working in conjunction with
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: the personnel department and he's he's been in all of
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: our meetings and it's been he's been.
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: Great you, know every player has a.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Profile the THING i like particularly About max is he's
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: not so married to.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: The data that he can't like we'll retort him and say,
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: like well what about?
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: This and he has enough common sense to be, like, well,
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: yeah that that makes sense as a reason that the
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  Speaker 4: model gives this, projection let me adjust that a little.
• 1:00:04
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• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: make the right. Decisions really, well you guys have on
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: the edge talked to The combine about how that's a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: position to need for you.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: Guys you've Signed Draymond.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Jones it feels like there's some different body types though
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: in this year's draft class at that.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 8: Position do you prefer for what you have right? Now
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: in terms of complimenting what you. Have do you feel
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: like you need that.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Smaller faster guy might be better on third down or
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: better to have a bigger. BODY i never want a smaller.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Guy no faster, GUY i, SAID i never want a smaller.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 14: Guy.
• 1:00:57
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• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Know draymond's a guy that can can play across the,
• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: beat you with, speed but that's probably not his bread and.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Butter and so you, know that's an area that we're looking,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: again looking to try to improve the depth on the.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Roster and now great moments in.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: History i'm going to push back here on everybody what
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: what what does everybody have Against Robbie?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Anderson he's never made an important catch in his.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Career like against us has done.
• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: He, YEAH i have no interest In David gibbons right?
• 1:01:57
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: gibbons isn't?
• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Either. No, No but that's Why i'm not.
• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:10
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:14
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• 1:02:16
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:26
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• 1:02:29
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  Speaker 2: man he's.
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• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: At patriots Dot. Com the phone lines are, stacked but
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: we do have the tape of Like rabel giving his,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: statements so can we go to that just so everyone
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: can see it for.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 15: Themselves let me first begin by saying thank. You thank
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 15: you for your patience that you've shown in a personal
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 15: and private matter for me and obviously everybody.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: INVOLVED i know that that's.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 15: Not easy for, you AND i respect, that AND i
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 15: appreciate your efforts in doing. SO i UNDERSTAND i could,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 15: have you, know addressed you guys, sooner but it was
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 15: important to me to have a conversation with the, players
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 15: WHICH i did yesterday very, candidly as we began our
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 15: off season program which everyone is excited to be a part.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 15: Of stacey had mentioned the players, availability AND i was
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 15: never my intention to have them speak to you or
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 15: address you BEFORE i, did and SO i asked him
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 15: to come today and to talk with. You you, KNOW
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 15: i also don't want to take away from our you,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 15: know the draft to the weekend of the. Draft you,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 15: know this is an important time for us an, organization
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 15: and the excitement and the joy that those players are
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 15: going to have that that we bring onto our football.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 15: Team you, know they're starting an amazing, journey one that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 15: should be, celebrated uh as we welcome them onto our.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 15: Team with that being, said you, Know i've had some
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 15: difficult conversations with people THAT i care, about with my,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 15: family the, organization the, coaches the, players those have been
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 15: positive and. Productive you, know we believe in order to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 15: be successful on and off the, field you have to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 15: make good. Decisions that includes. Me that starts with. Me
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 15: we never want our actions to negatively affect affect the.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 15: Team we never want to be the cause of a,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 15: distraction you. Know and WHAT i know those are comments
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 15: and questions That i've answered for the team and with the.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 15: Team we'll keep those. Private and you, know to, ourselves
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 15: care deeply about this football, team And i'm excited to coach.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 15: HIM i also know That i'm going to attack each
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 15: day with humility and. Focus and WHAT i can promise
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 15: you is that my, family this, organization the, team the,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 15: staff the, coaches everybody are fans most, importantly will get
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 15: the best version of me going. Forward and that's WHAT i,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 15: know And i'm excited to do. That BUT i wanted
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 15: to want just address this and thank you for your
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 15: patience and dealing with the private and personal.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Matter thank. You so there you, Go Mike rabel from
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: his own mouth to your. Ears do with it what you,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: want but that's. It that's. It, FIRSTHAND i would, say good,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: job good.
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  Speaker 6: Summation think that was an accurate in my, opinion what
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: you said was a very accurate portrayal of What mike.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: Said having seen it, now, yep.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Thanks but it's almost like you wrote it because
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: you were talking about.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: He hit a lot of my.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Buzzword, yah dealing it before the players had to deal with,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: it dealing it before the draft so that it didn't
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: take away from the draft and the excitement of those
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: guys being. Drafted all those, things, yeah are common, sense
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: and they did the common sense.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: THING i had mentioned that last, week and you, Know
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: Matt smith was just in here a little while ago
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: and he said the same. Thing you, Know matt was getting,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: ready we were getting ready to do all. Access mike reeseis,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: here and you, KNOW i Think mike was the first
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: one of us that came up with today as the,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: possibility and we all sort of started talking in those.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: Terms you, know don't take away from the. Draft don't
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: make you players have to speak for. You make sure
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: you address the. Player you, know it doesn't matter what
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: he says to, us but it does matter what he
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: says to the.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Players AND i think might just sort of hit on
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: all of those.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: Things, YEAH i thought he did a nice, job you,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: know not an easy.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Situation it wasn't an easy.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Situation AND i think the the player's aspect of, IT
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  Speaker 3: i think is important because he, uh he's the leader
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: of the, team both as the head, coach but also
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: just the personality that he.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Is, right AND i.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Think too if we had gotten just hypothetically the captains you, Know,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Roberts Plain, Hunter henry, whoever today and they had to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: feel questions about this matter Before mike had even talked
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: about it on his, Own, like you, KNOW i don't
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: that doesn't jive with What i've observed of him as
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: a person or as a. Coach SO i wasn't surprised
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: that he'd stepped up to the mic. Today but, YEAH
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: i thought that it was important to not send the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: players out there, first. Yep AND i always think that
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: with a lot of, these even football things like when
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: you have a bad, LOSS i always think it it's
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: odd that the if like the, coach goes after play
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: like the, coach it, stops starts and ends with the,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: coach you, know and all walks of the football.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Team. Yep SO i like that old. QUOTE i think
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: it Was Paul, brown but he always said, that you,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: know when when things are, bad when things are, good
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  Speaker 1: we did. It when things are, great they did, it
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: and when things are, BAD i did. It all, right
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: let's get to some of the phone. Calls they're all stacked.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Up but one Thing zach In connecticut wants to know
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: is what WILL i be wearing for the? Draft good, Question,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: WELL i have a suit on or what the deal?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: IS i don't. Know with the with my leg the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: way it, IS i don't feel like dressing. Up i'm
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: not feeling very. Sexy so you didn't dress up last?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Year? Right two years? Ago you put the tucks.
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  Speaker 1: ON i had a was that? Was that Was Drake,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: May Drake.
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  Speaker 2: May last.
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  Speaker 1: YEAR i THINK i just might have had A patriots
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  Speaker 1: shirt on or something like. That.
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  Speaker 3: YEAH i was wondering that, though because last YEAR i
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: THINK i dressed up AND i was the only, one
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: so that looked kind of.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: SILLY i, know you won't dress, up BUT i. Don't,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: well you have all your hits that you have to, do,
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  Speaker 1: SO i mean you have a lot of Hits thursday
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  Speaker 1: not not as many this.
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  Speaker 7: Year bay not.
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  Speaker 16: Well so the issue that the The bruins of The,
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  Speaker 16: celtics one of the teams is playing On thursday. Night
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  Speaker 16: they both played on so no one of them Plays,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 16: thursday one of them Plays. Friday so the sports up
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 16: is airing the game instead of draft.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Coverage that answers our, question, Right so.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah SO i DON'T i don't know If i'm
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be, really you, know dressing to the.
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  Speaker 3: NINES i Think i'm just gonna do button down quarter
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  Speaker 3: zip combo.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Myself, paul you, know, yeah like what the? Difference?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: Man you can't get the mouse to, Work you can't
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  Speaker 6: get the R F I d to. Work so maybe
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  Speaker 6: Maybe matt. Can who do you want to call Up
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: zach In New.
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  Speaker 1: Hampshire, no let's Call daniel In New. Hampshire he's the first, One,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: daniel and new what's Up?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Daniel just BEFORE i got a couple of.
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  Speaker 17: Questions but just before, that uh my audio it was completely.
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  Speaker 17: FINE i don't know what other people are talking. About
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  Speaker 17: but you guys found the same as you always. Have,
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  Speaker 17: FIRST i wanted to, Say, fred back to the beginning
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 17: of the, SHOW i agree with. YOU i think people
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 17: doing multiple mock drafts it's. Silly powder reminds me of
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 17: when people are in ten different fantasy leagues and and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 17: one league you're rooting For Patrick mahomes and another you're
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 17: rooting against, them AND i.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Just it's, yeah, YEAH i hear.
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  Speaker 17: You, SECONDLY i Love i'm just gonna assume THAT. A.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 17: J brown is gonna be here in the. FALL i
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 17: absolutely love. IT i think that's What Drake may. Need
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 17: this team has historically not drafted receiver as. WELL i
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 17: mean just thinking back To Mac, jones WHO i don't
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 17: even know who is like best receiver was in his time.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 17: Here SO i think WITH Aj, BROWN i think that'll
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 17: Help Drake may a. Lot and kind of going off of,
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  Speaker 17: THAT i think they should try and use that WITH A.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 17: J brown Or Mac collins or other guys in the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 17: room to kind of TRY i know you love them
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 17: Develop chisholm and maybe Even Kyle. Williams because Of Kyle williams,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 17: SPEED i, mean he can't teach, That, nope at next level.
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  Speaker 17: Yep but thank you guys enjoying the draft And i'll take.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 18: It off the.
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  Speaker 1: Air Thanks daniel The show And Josh allen doing a
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: press conference up at their facility In, buffalo and he's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: wearing A Buffalo sabers hat and. Shirt so now The
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: bruins have to. Win The bruins have to. Win we
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: cannot Let buffalo beat.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: US i Think buffalo is going to beat?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Us you think they?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 7: ARE i, mean then thoroughly outplayed them In game.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: One, well we were up like to nothing if.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: You watch did you watch the, game it wasn't a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: fluke that they gave four goals in the last eight.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: Minute let's just put.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: It that an.
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  Speaker 1: Onslaught, yeah the whole game was an on.
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  Speaker 2: Sloid it was like they were on a pol.
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  Speaker 1: Was supposed to be better than. Them, no, oh all,
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  Speaker 1: right So buffalo is actually good for.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: Once they were in position to steal the, game The bruins,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: were and ultimately they were eight minutes away from doing.
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  Speaker 2: It but good way to PUT i agree.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: With it was underdog goalie standing on his, head try
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: trying to trying to steal game that they didn't deserve to,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: win and the dan Broke, okay That's bruin's. Minute very
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  Speaker 3: upset about. It the next. MORNING i woke up On
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: monday morning and looked Over. IDDRESS i was, LIKE i
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: can't believe that freaking, happened and she.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 7: Was we were both.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Upset win tonight and it's a.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Series, Zachson New. Hampshire what's Up zachy?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 19: Thinks taking my?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: CALL i was just, wondering if THE. A.
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  Speaker 17: J brown stuff is, true they're probably gonna go edge
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  Speaker 17: and round. ONE i would.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 19: Assume who are your favorite second round prospects at the?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Edge what? Position just in, general especially not you, know.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Receiver if, they oh so you think they're gonna take
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: edge in first, round who do you think they take
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: in the?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: Second that's that's interesting BECAUSE i don't know if there's
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: going to be any tackles worthy of, taking you, know
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: at the end of the second round there, IS i
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: think the cutoff is before. That so that's another part
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: of the whole mat mock. Draft getting back to the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: thing That fred was talking to you. About do you
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: take a tackle because you look ahead and, say, well
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: mahanachor or someone like that is much better than the
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: next tackle as opposed to you, know and Our Mason
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: thomas might not be that much different than A Cassius
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: howell and, maybe you, KNOW i don't, know if you
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: can get maybe both of those guys wouldn't be available
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: at sixty, whatever sixty. Three but you, Know i'm just
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: throwing names. Out Derek moore gap between the next, guys.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah dds?
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  Speaker 3: Whatever yeah that That that's HOW i see the board
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  Speaker 3: is that the.
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  Speaker 1: Tackle is the. Gap.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Right the talent gap at tackle is bigger than the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: talent gap at. Edge BUT i think you could make
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: a better case that The Edd dresser is the more immediate.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Need so if you're just looking to draft the player
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: at thirty one that's gonna make the biggest immediate impact
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: on the football team is definitely An edgdresher over at
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: because the tackle is gonna.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Sit the tackle is gonna sit Behind. Morgan this, ideally
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: maybe things go the way you want it.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: To the tackle, sits, yeah for maybe the entire, year,
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  Speaker 3: Right SO i look at it that way in terms
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: of immediate, Impact but in terms Of round, two like
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: who are some of my favorite? PROSPECTS i think it
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: gets a much harder if you go edge round one
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: with that because of the dearth of. Tackles there aren't
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of, them so maybe they end up going
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: tight end at sixty three instead of wide. Receiver maybe
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: it's a GUY i, like Like Max claire or delp
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Or stower's or someone like, that and you know you're
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: still adding a weapon to the, offense but he's just
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: a tight end instead of a.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Receiver, OKAY i Like Max claire a little.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: BIT i had him today in my Final moth BECAUSE
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: i don't feel like we're talking enough about him in this.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Group, fred you're not talking enough About Max claire when.
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  Speaker 7: It comes to the tight.
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  Speaker 3: ENDS i feel like we've talked a lot About, stowers Delp,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: roush like those three.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Guys so there's a lot of mixed opinions On. Delp, yes,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: well a lot of people think he's like an h back. Right,
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  Speaker 1: OH i don't know about.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: That but mixed opinions are stemming from the lack of college.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Production lack of college and just like he's not worthy
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: of being you, know a first uh even first two day. Pick,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: OH i don't know about.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 7: That, YEAH i haven't heard.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: That, well you haven't read our, lads that's because they're, yeah,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: yeah why are we reading? That, yeah they our. Lads
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: he's in the back of their. Book.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: YEAH i feel like they tend to do their work
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: earlier in the draft process and before the draft industrial.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Complex really maybe Get sky because they seem.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: To have their rank their.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: RANKINGS i tend to Like delp In january was considered
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: like a third or fourth round pick for most.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: People AND i know they have.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: A big present at presence at the you, know College
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: All Star, games, right which Is.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: January so like when this, STARTED i would Say delp
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: was probably a fourth round.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: Pick then you go through the.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: Combine you go through this pro, day and then all
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: of a, sudden the buzz increases and now he's.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: On dane has him, third third.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: Round, yeah he's a top one hundred guy for.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: SURE i don't Love.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Delp i'll be honest with.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: You if you're going to take sort of like that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: smaller past catching, guy like is It Star wars or Stores, Stores.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: BUT I i don't look at. THEM i don't look
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: at them as. Similar delpe can block a lot better Than. Stars,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: YEAH i like.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: Them i'll take your word for. It you certainly do
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: a lot more research on this THAN i. Do, Ye,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: stars you don't have to get mean about. IT i
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 6: gave you your, PROPS i gave you a Getting i'm not.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Mean do no work on this? Stuff AND i. DO
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: i you, Know, fred you know Where i'm going to come.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Back BUT i watch the.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: GAMES i base it on when they, play.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: AND i Like Star wars AND i don't really like
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Delp all that.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Much steve, Says i'm most likely to wear bron panties On.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: THURSDAY i don't know where that comes.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: From that's that's uncalled.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: For, like what what are you? Insinuating i'm, yeah you
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: don't like the word. Panties, no it's. Weird, Okay, uh
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: thanks for the, Call. Zach he's been holding on ever.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Since let's go to Uh eldred In North. Carolina what
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: wide receiver should The patriots? Take?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 18: Eldred, Well i'm gonna skak by him till LIKE i
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 18: did last year WITH T mac and everybody. Laughed but
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 18: see what happened TO T mac And? Hunter, Right So
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 18: i'm just gonna stick with a Brazl but bra yes this,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 18: again a J i'm pretty sure they ain't gonna draft
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 18: me a thirty, one BUT i would draft move up
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 18: and get him in the second. Round because you do
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 18: need a backup For brown if they're gonna get rid
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 18: Of booty and mac hollinshis been gone because of. Age
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 18: just WHY i look at. It but that's you, know
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 18: that's the way they do. Things BUT i just, hope
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 18: LIKE i Said, thursday, COME i have my, palm palm.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 14: Ready we'll get.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 18: Brows i'll drive up them down at thirty.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 13: One but we.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 18: Won't but if they move up in the second round
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 18: and get him to be, fine he ain't gonna be
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 18: there FOR i don't care What Dan brules. Is i'm
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 18: not going to be, there.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: All, right all, right Thanks. Eldrick, Uh chris with A,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: T I A. N what's?
• 1:18:10
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• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Christian, Hey?
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  Speaker 13: Freddy, Hey, uh hopefully you have a quick heel with
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 13: that with that, leg so thank.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: You back up and, run but push you don't miss
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: the day you're the.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 13: Man the man doesn't miss the day you set the.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Tongue by the, Way. Christian BUT i was In Disney
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: world AND i uh made my own lightsaber At savvy's.
• 1:18:34
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• 1:18:35
  Speaker 13: THAT i always wanted to do.
• 1:18:37
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• 1:18:42
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  Speaker 7: It pretty.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Cool it's. Awesome so On may, Fourth i'll be bringing
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: my light. Saber i'm gonna bring it. In it's pretty.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Cool thank.
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  Speaker 2: God i'll be In.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Italy that's. Great you'll be In italy. Four, yeah you're
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: going To. Italy, yeah going To, okay we're visit the relatives.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Visiting will you Go.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 7: Are you gonna go?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 14: Back?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 7: Like are you going to find like your your?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: Family, no, Scoozy i'll be doing a little of, that all.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Right so, Yeah SO I, CHRISTIAN i know you're a
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Big Star wars, fan SO i want to let you.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 13: Know very, Cool. Bollie you have a good time In.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Italy you'll love.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: It i'm.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Sure thank.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 13: You H i GOTTA i got a good job on
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 13: the radio this. MORNING i got to push back on
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 13: you though about if we get A.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: J brown not drafted on wide receiver in the first.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 13: Round i'm of the mind that if a guy's, THERE
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 13: i don't think he'll be there like, conceptional but if he's,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 13: THERE i want to Surround drake with as much, talent young,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 13: talent cheap, TALENT uh for as long as.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 19: Possible AND i.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 13: Know they have significant needs at edge and tight, end
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 13: and BUT i think if a guy's, there you got
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 13: to take. Them and it's allocating a lot of resources
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 13: to one. Position AND i get, it it's a lot of.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 13: Money but that's that's WHERE i come down on. IT
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 13: i want the most talent Around drake.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 17: And you, know get me alignment on your own.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Time as you, say, YEAH i MEAN I i just
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: don't see it. HAPPENING i don't see them putting that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: amount of. Management, Yeah Romeo dobbs AND Aj brown and
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: the first round pick at the same.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: Position, LIKE i think you need more than. THAT i,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: mean it's great that you're going to have wide receivers,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: settled but what about the other positions on the?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Roster, right that's All i'm.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 13: Saying another tight end, Too like they definitely need somebody you,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 13: know behind Behind hunter and.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 17: You know that THAT i.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: GET i JUST i so now you're basically into the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: third round without addressing your major.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Needs, yeah if you take, them, SURE i see.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: That so that's what that's WHAT i would be worried,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: About christian is you, know where do you get the edge?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: Guy where do you get a tackle to put in the?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: Pipeline if you don't get at them. Early and if
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: YOU i, MEAN I evan already made the. ARGUMENT i
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: agree with. Them if you don't get the tackle in
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: the first, round you're probably looking at a, developmental you,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: know day three kind of a. Guy because there's really
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: a huge gap at that. Spot they can go a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: lot of different. Ways it's not going to completely floor
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: me if they do what you're, Saying, christian BUT i
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 6: would be surprised if they took a wide receiver in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: the first. Round if they if they are in fact
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: going to GET Aj brown and they took a wide
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: receiver in the first, round to, me that would be.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Surprising, YEAH i mean if they lore, Yep Jordan tyson,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: falls which isn't gonna. HAPPEN i think everybody's decided that
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: that's not happening to.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Take Jordan tyson and scrap THE Aj brown.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Pick but like trade, so you're gonna Pay Romeo dobbs
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: a pretty good contract in free. Agency you're going to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: give up a high draft pick in twenty twenty, seven
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: probably for A J, brown maybe even your first round
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: pick in twenty twenty, Seven and you're going to draft
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: a wide receiver in the first round in twenty twenty,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: six so back to back first roun on picks plus
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: the financial commitment To brown and To dobbs all at one.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: POSITION i, MEAN i just to me that it's just
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: not a great use of your.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Assets Thanks.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: Christian, yeah there's just other there's other positions on the,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: roster all, right so we don't let's go TO.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 19: It, hey good, Afternoon. James how you. Doing so you
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 19: guys were talking about. Them the team reporting yesterday for
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 19: the first dayse OF ota, workouts and there are two
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 19: names THAT i did not see on the list of.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 19: Participants one of them Was, kayshambouti but the other one
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 19: Was Mike On AND i kind OF i know there's
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 19: been a lot of buzz about The patriots taking a guard.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 19: Early Where i'm kind of at with that IS i
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 19: would rather either just signed on to like a short
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 19: term like two three year, extension BECAUSE i don't believe
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 19: he's got any more guaranteed money, left or just take
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 19: a guard, late like a developmental guard late Like jeremiah,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 19: right BECAUSE i ALMOST i Know paul has said this,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 19: before like you you can get a guard anywhere in
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 19: the draft or even in you, know THE, UDF a
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 19: AND i just kind of wanted to go OR i
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 19: wanted to get your guys opinions and takes on that
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 19: on where that, stands And i'll take it off, here, guys.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: All, right, thanks Thanks.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: Patty one thing THAT i would just, say and sometimes
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: it's it's not true for. EVERYTHING i thought it was
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: notable That Christian gonzales was here. YESTERDAY i agree THAT
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: i find. Notable but you, Know i'm very able to
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: mention this. Today they don't take. Attendance it's a voluntary.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: Person they come because they take the pictures that we
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: post on patriots dot com and they go through the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: pictures and they, say here are the thirty GUYS i
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: saw in the.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Picture, yeah but there were sixty over sixty guys. There that's.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: Unfair so, well posted As fred informed me post From
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: instagram From. Miami, yeah So i'm comfortable saying that he wasn't.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 6: There Plus Mike rabel then said that he had informed
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: the team that he wouldn't be, there and that doesn't
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: mean it's good that he wasn't.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: There but, WELL i was sort of getting to WAS.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's fair to gauge things off of
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: who is and isn't here now this time of.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: Year, NO i agree either.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: Direction whether that is, there this means something for the player's.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: Future like, yesterday everybody was, speculating, Well Kishan boody must
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: be gone because he's not a day one OF.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: Ota that to me is. Unfair, yeah AND i would
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: Say i'm going to be. Fair on the other, Side,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: evan you said That gonzales being here you took as
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 6: a positive.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: SIGN i would tend to agree.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Because of the. Contract hold, RIGHT i would tend.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: To, Agree BUT i also would say it could very
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: much be part of the contract. Situation you, know he's he's,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: negotiating he's trying to get a. Deal See i'm, here
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: Heybe so now what happens if sort of you move
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: ahead of the month and you go to the OTAs
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: in the track still isn't. Done, yeah, okay all, Right
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: i'm going to be at that one. Too but then
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: all of a, sudden if it doesn't, Happen i'm MUCH
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: i would much rather have him be there during training
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: camp than. Now last year he wasn't there during training
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: camp for large chunks when he pulled his. HAMSTRING i
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: would be much more concerned about it going that.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Way that's, right you know WHAT i, mean if they
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: can't get this.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: Done BUT i DO i try not to look at
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: too much into.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: IT i look at it on the, surface AND i
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: would agree With evans's assessment that seeing him yesterday was
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: a positive.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Sign well because just because.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: This happens all the time around the, league so and
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: so is not reporting to OTAs because he of the Contract.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Dexter, lawrence, Right so all of a sudden he's gone
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: a week.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: Later but you, know a we don't even you, know
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: To patty's. Call Maybe mike On winning just wasn't front
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: and center in any of the photos that THEY i.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Don't know that he.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Was he maybe he wasn't, there.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Or maybe he wasn't.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Not i'm not looking for a guard.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: Early you, know take a couple of take a couple
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: of guards in the sixth, round and you, know maybe
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: you can get one of them that turns out to
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: Be Michael, winn who was a sixth round.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Pick adam And. Louisiana i'm staunchly anti Aj brown. TRADE
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: i want someone to grow with May brown is on
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: the decline and will cost a lot in both draft
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: picks and. Contract that could be used For gonzales or
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: may or someone. ELSE i don't need a first round
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: wide receiver this, year even THOUGH i Love Casey, concepcion
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: BUT i could get behind Ted hurst in the. Second
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: as for the sound, VOLUME i Find aquoe. Okay so
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: he's another person having, problems but we're working on. IT
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: i think THE Aj brown.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: Trade the idea is similar to what they did With
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: diggs last. Year you don't want to put any of
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: the young guys in the. Spower they have to be the,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: savior and by bringing in a guy LIKE Aj, brown
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: you at least have a veteran star receiver that has
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: been in that position before in the pecking. ORDER i
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: think the guy that they're hoping that is going to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: grow with him Is Romeo, dobbs Is Kyle williams is.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: If they draft another receiver this.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Year but you don't want to be in a situation
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: like they were in twenty four where they Draft Jalen
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: polk in the second round and they Expect Jalen polk
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: to come in and be the. Guy, Right so this
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: will allows you the right kind of.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: Development that's the version of The Mike dusseau lament WITH
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: Aj brown and the email that just THAT i totally
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: agree with everything the email are.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Said in a.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: Vacuum IF i have my, CHOICE i can get a
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: guy who's going to Be Drake may's number one target
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: for the next six seven, years OR Aj. Brown i'll
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: take the guy for the next six or seven. Years
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: the problem is What evan. Said you Thought Jalen polk
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: was going to possibly be one of those, Guys you
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: Thought nikhil could possibly be one of those guys Those
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: it doesn't always work. Out SO i have a guy
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: WHO i know has a level of production in THE,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: nfl AND Aj brown he's.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: AVAILABLE i don't think it's going to be cost.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: PROHIBITIVE i don't think it's going to cost them like
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: multiple first round picks or something that you don't want
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: Now so it may.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Not it may not cost the first round, pick.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: PERIOD i agree with, you it might, not especially if
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: if these you, know if you guys are, right and
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: it's more about how strong schefter said it, yesterday no
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: one else is, interested so you're.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: You you're basically. Negotiating you can get. Yourself.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Uh jeff In, Canada Dear, Evan old people like me
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: don't like having the picks. Tipped just let us enjoy
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: the forty five seconds of not. Knowing we know you,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: know you can still have your. Flowers so are you
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: a tip? Picker started?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: Working when we are on the, radio when we're doing the,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: thing and when we find out the, pick we, SAY.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I, know should We?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah well that's but what are you get inside in?
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: From?
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: No but we do it before it's announced ON. Tv.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Uh, well sometimes we don't even know when it's announced ON.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Tv, well certainly later, rounds but early rounds we usually
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: say it when we hear, it and that's before it gets.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Announced but we don't.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: Tip the pick because we're told what the pick. Is,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: no we're finding out the same time you're finding.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: Out, well if you're on social, media yeah, yeah but
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: if you're not on social, media you're just WATCHING. Tv
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: we're ahead of.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: It, generally the picks are On twitter before they're ON.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: Tv, right, yes and so this guy so once the
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: picture known publicly is my.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Point there's a push what are we waiting?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: For there's a push to end pick tipping because people
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: want the organic feeling of the draft to come back
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: where Rogers so.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: How are they going to monitor? That how are they
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: gonna enforce. That they're not going to enforce.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: It there's just it's it's a cultural thing of people.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: Saying Peter suger came out with something yesterday and, said
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: as as people in the, know as, media let's all just.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Stop i'll be interested to see how that, works Because
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: i'm all for. It if we don't find out UNTIL
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: i don't. CARE i don't carry.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: EITHER i don't care when we find, out but when it's,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: known LIKE i think we should.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Say, it there's all.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: So but if all the media guys that find out the,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: picks they don't tweet, them, Wait i'll wait for THE.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: Tv that's not gonna.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: Happen, YEAH i, mean, look the pickline is usually two
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: or three minutes ahead OF, tv maybe a little bit.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: Less and when you're a, reporter you either have a
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: source that's on the pickline or you might be have
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: direct access to the, pickline and the pickline is just
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: some moderator over the. Over the voice goes with the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: thirty first, pick The patriots select so and, so and
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: then all the wheels go into motion for THE tv
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: and for you, know social media and all that for
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: the team in the league to get ready to announce
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: the pick, totally and so they need that buffer of
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: a couple of minutes to get everybody pointed.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: In the proper, direction and so that's why you Get
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: jeff also, says if it's true we're trading FOR, aj
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: that is an all in, move and if you're all,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: in you have to be truly all. In so draft
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: players who will be ready to make a difference by
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: the time the twenty six twenty seven season, ends hopefully
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: IN la holding The lombardi things like draft another receiver,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: anyway trade, up go. Nuts we're all getting, older and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: these slow building processes teams are very hit or. Miss
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: The rams figured it, out just go for. IT i feel.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Bad so he's, saying you, know.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Who's a slow building process. TEAM i don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Teams that you, know just build through the, Draft Green bay, Maybe.
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  Speaker 6: No there's a lot of teams that they don't necessarily
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: go free. Agency but who's a slow build BECAUSE i
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: don't think there were any slow build teams in THE nfl.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Anymore, NO i don't think they're ever have.
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  Speaker 6: BEEN i think that's the quickest turnaround league that there.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: Is and there are teams that are like The jets.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: Stink The browns stick like they they haven't been able
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: to do. It but it's not because we're going for
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: the slow building that happens in the other sports a
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: lot like, uh THE, Nba, well THE nba is with
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: the playoff teams are openly not trying THE. Nba THE
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: nba is the no build, league, right but THE nba
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: is that happens in THE NFL a. Lot THE nba
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: is different, though because how much one player can tip
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 6: the scales for you in that. Sport BUT I i
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: tend to agree with the general premise of this is
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 6: an all in, move just that they should be thinking in.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: THAT i like the premise you were one win away.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: From winning the Super bowl and whether they deserve to
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: be there or, not or schedule or takes or what
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: they were one win away from winning the Super bowl last.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: YEAR i don't love the, idea AND i haven't loved
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: it all off season of.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Drafting let's say it tackle.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: That's to sit, them LIKE I i, agree or this
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: blasphemy THAT i hear about them taking a guard early
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: so not you're not even taking the premium position on
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: the offensive line and you're still gonna sit, them or
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: you're gonna turn around and trade mike On, wnu who's
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: one of your.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: Better players because you drafted the.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: Guard, Right so, LIKE i agree with, that BUT i
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: do think that they're you, know the other side of
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: me is, saying, well the way the board is breaking
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: the tackle in the first, round does kind of me might.
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  Speaker 6: Be the best might be the best, player, right AND
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: i And i'd be okay with. THAT i would agree. To,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: LIKE i don't want to say Like i'm all. IN i,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: MEAN i think you can sort of middle it a
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: little bit and sort of recognize, that, yes you had
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: this tremendous season and went to the Super, bowl but
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: maybe you're not quite that talented to just expect to
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: go to the Super bowl every year.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: Based on talent.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: Alone but you don't have to, LIKE i wouldn't make
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: an all in kind of move and sort of forfeit
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: a lot of draft picks both for this year next.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: Year you, KNOW i wouldn't be making a huge move like.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: That you, Know Aj, BROWN i don't want, to LIKE i,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: Said i'm not giving up two first round picks FOR Aj, brown,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: right but IF i get him for a second and
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: you know something, else, sure, LIKE i think that's a
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: good all in kind of a.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: MOVE i think you can play it down the.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: MIDDLE i think you can keep some of your assets
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: going forward to build to where you want to be
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: and be as good as you can be in twenty, Six.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: Nate And, Iowa i'm curious what you guys think if
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: we can Pay, may Aj, brown And gonzo all within
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: the next two. Years, well, yes.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 7: Yes but they also.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: That those contracts are not going to all kick in
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: all at, once, Right, so Like gonzo is going to
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: play the last year of his rookie contrac at this.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: Year his extension would then start in twenty twenty. Seven
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: Drake may is going to play the first four years
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: of his rookie. Contract his rookie extension won't kick, IN
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: i think until twenty eight or twenty, nine and THEN
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: Aj brown at that point is probably not gonna be here. Anymore, Right,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: So like there is a staggered element of it that
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: helps in terms of like cash flow or you, know
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: in how it hits the books and all that kind of,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: Stuff like you won't you have like a two or
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: three year window until you're Paying gonzales And may at
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: the top of the. Market to have another big contract
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: on the, books like an Aj Brown.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: David In texas wants to talk about the start to
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Last thursday. Show just wanted to point out that when
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: y'all Asked evan about being potentially a, SCOUT i just
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: thought it was extremely funny the way he. Sounded it
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: was like he was a nervous high school kid in
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: his first job. INTERVIEW i, don't did you feel? NERVOUS
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: i FEEL i.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: DON'T i have like a little bit of imposter syndrome
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: when it comes to that line of.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: QUESTIONING i think because LIKE i want people to think
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: that you already think you're a scout that way, correct, Right.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: LIKE i don't want it to come across Like i'm,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: like OH i could do. That like, No like there's
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: Even Mike rabel when we talked to him earlier, today was, like,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: Look i'm NOT i don't write reports like he. Doesn't
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: he's not trained and he's a. Coach he's not a, scout,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: right you, know So i'm not trying to pretend to
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: Like i'm.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Anything brian writes in he wants to know should The
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: patriots Call roseman's? Bluff you talk About Howie roseman do
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: all these leaks about THE Aj brown trade seem suspicious to.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: You Could Howie Rosen roseman uh be working the media
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: to excite fan expectations to put some pressure on The
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: patriots to make the. Trade do we really think a
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: future first is a real possibility in Not philly? PROPAGANDA
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: i think people undersell how much leverage The patriots will
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: have the. Draft if The eagles draft to receive a
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: high then they will have signed two veterans that have
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: an Upset brown on their. Books do we really think
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: The eagles will keep a Grumpy brown in his contract
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: rather than cut. HIM i say The patriots call their,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: bluff wait until after the, draft offer a day to
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, pick and let The eagles prove if
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: they mean it that they want them on their, team
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i would bet that they.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 6: Don't has this guy been like listening to the last
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: like two months worth of. Shows, yea the trade's not
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 6: happening until after the, draft?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: Right BUT i ALSO i kind of agree with what he's,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: saying no to an extent if you just look at
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: like the recent history of trades for receivers that.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Are that, age and where he's at.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: In his career in terms of production maybe being a
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: little bit on the. Decline there's not a lot of
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: twenty nine year old receivers that are getting moved for
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: first round picks or first round. Picks plus more, so
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: the framework of the trade is really What digs got
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: when he went From buffalo To, houston WHICH i think
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: was like a second and like a fourth for, fifth
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: like some sort of pick.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Swap thing in the fourth and fifth.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: Round, Right so the idea that they're going to get
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: at twenty twenty seven, first which apparently everybody is treating
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: like a precious gem to begin with because of how
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: good the twenty twenty seven class, is it does feel
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: like it's a little bit of a high asking, price AND.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to get. It AND i think.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: So that's the whole my whole semantic argument with the
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 6: Whole june first thing IS i think he would have
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: made the trade if he could have gotten what he, wanted, Right,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: like in other, WORDS i think that you can conveniently
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: look at the salary caps as the reason that they're,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: Waiting but if someone was offering him a you, know
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 6: the first round picks that he, WANTED i think he
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 6: would have made the.
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  Speaker 2: TRADE i think it's pretty clear that no one Picks,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: yeah that.
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  Speaker 6: Gets pretty clear that no one's given him that right
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 6: PRICE bb In New.
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  Speaker 1: Hampshire SINCE i asked her in The Kids show Whether
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: paul Or fred would win in a head to head coaching,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: MATCHUP i have to ask who? Wins Between evan And,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: barth who would win in a coaching?
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: Matchup SO i think, that you, know if we're going
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: to take this, seriously, like of course me And alex
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: are like meant to be on the same coaching staff
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: Because alex is like he goes To paul's school of clock, management,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: right so.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: He's your right hand. Man like, when so you're the head.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: COACH i didn't say that because what you're saying it's
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: kind of going there, Though.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah are you the offensive? Coordinator so at least, yeah
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 6: at least head coach? Offense you, know sorry Type kyle typets?
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Guy Is?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 6: EVAN i, mean Is alex just in charge the special?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: Teams so or do we give him the?
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: Defense?
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: NO i was gonna, LIKE I i think That alex
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: is like, Stretch LIKE i Think alex.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't even get.
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  Speaker 3: WELL i think that's pretty big, Role like maybe maybe
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: not as much of like the analytics, side Like alex
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: doesn't do it that way necessarily with computers numbers per.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: Se but when we have our you, know we do
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: our autopsies at games On catch twenty two during the,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: season LIKE i say all the the x's and those
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: things THAT i thought from the, game and he at the,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: end he's always, like, well we're going to talk about
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: how they handle the end of the, half, Right And i'm, like,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: wat what do you, Mean like what happened at the
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: end of the?
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 7: Half and he's got to tell me what happened during the,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 7: game you know what About.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: He also asked what was? That he also Asked evan versus? Deuce,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: NOW i Think evan wins that in a slam dug
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: because the sideline, like you, KNOW i.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: Don't, KNOW i don't want to hurt.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: Anyone he'd never get the guys out on time because
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: he'd be, thinking who SHOULD i put out on the?
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: Field be penalties left and? Right for twelve men on the,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: field you, know like.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: Like he'd want, yeah he'd want everybody to play, yeah
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: because he wouldn't be able to make a, decision you,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: KNOW i don't want to hear.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Anyone, decisions and you have to make decisions during the.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: GAME i would worry, that because we're taking this totally,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: Seriously i'd worried that my head coaching career would look
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: a lot Like mike, McDaniel where like you know THE
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: x is and would be pretty, good, right but like
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: the leader of men, aspect that would be WHERE i
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: WOULD i would definitely, Struggle like you're not gonna put
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: me in front of a room of players and be
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: able to do what Like Mike rabel does right and
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: then rally the Troops like that's gonna be.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 14: Tough.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Uh James pettig grew the most Interesting patriots fan in the,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: world says mock drafts were created by sports media employees
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: to look busy during a down. Period evan considered his
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: desk and look like he's. Working they are a waste of.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Time Fred fire half of the. Office oh, wow whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: WHOAOW i think people are taking the mock draft thing
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: a little too, Seriously like it's just, Content like it's
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: just a way to talk about the, draft talk about,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: scenarios all the things that we do on this.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: Show for the weeks leading up to the.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: Draft it's just another form of that of just having
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: a chance to talk about different guys in different possible.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: SCENARIOS i don't think it's as serious as as, like
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: OH i was, Right LIKE i don't.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Know ethan In. La did someone just complain about tipping
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: picks forty five seconds before the? Broadcast what are we?
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Doing you're listening to THE pu. Broadcast who gives a
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: blank About goodell announcing the? Picks my two? CENTS a
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: lot of people do.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Both, yeah you, know, YEAH i understand, that AND i
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: understand why people get. Annoyed BUT i just feel, like
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: if we're not going to be the ones that are
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: telling you who the pick, is someone else is putting
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: the pick out. There if you have seen it or not,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: right we're not going to break THEN i can't control
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: when you see.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: It do you know WHAT i? Mean we're not going
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: to break.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: An, yeah we don't break any of the. Picks other people.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Do, That, Yeah eric, says question If, Fred paul And
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: evan could each make A madden style trade in this,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: draft what would it be and who would it? Be?
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 7: For so like force? It like you can't SAY i.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Don't know what is A madden. Style, well that's the WAY.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: I take, it is like city something that's like not
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: going to, happen but in a la la, land we
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: can make this.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: Happen, okay, well you, know we'll move up a few
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: spots and Get.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: Sadiq oh, YEAH i think that's more like in all
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: terms of. Fantasyland that is at least there's like one
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: percent of. Realism so that's not a bad.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: One, well WHAT i what we don't see enough of
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: in THE nfl on draft day is draft trades involving.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Players so in other, words like it would take a
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: lot for The patriots to move into the top fifteen
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: from thirty, one but what if you gave that in
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: booty or a, player you, know, like can you do
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: it that? Way and you don't see enough of?
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: That you Don't you don't see a whole lot of.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: That you're seeing more, nowadays player for player trades that
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: that we didn't see a ton of.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: That player picks on draft weekend or generally for Like
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 6: day two And day three, picks you, know Like Corey
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 6: dillon And Randy. Moss, yeah those kinds of trades back,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 6: Then but to move up in the first. ROUND i
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 6: agree with, You, fred that doesn't really seem like a
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: lot of players are involved in.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: Those, yeah WHAT i don't under, stand AND i think
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: it's more probably mostly.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Financial but like.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: Once the draft starts and the team wants to move
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: up the draft, picks all of a, sudden the value
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: of the draft pick is nowhere near as. High but
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: if you want to trade a draft pick for a,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: player it's, like, well, well we can't trade, that that's too.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: Much right then we get into draft day and it's
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: like last, year was it The falcons that traded like
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: their future first round pick for to come up in?
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: Draft James Pears right, now all of a, sudden these
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: the picks have all this less, value where, oh we'll
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: trade you, know two forces and a third to move
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: up On day. Two, well you wouldn't trade two forces
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: in a third any other time of the year except
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: maybe during the draft when you're watching the parade go.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: By it's just weird how the value during the draft
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: of the picks seems to be watered.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Down dave And bethlem has a. Request he, says please
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: report what facts have been reported when you're talking about
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: off field. Issues cite the. Source jaywalking is different from
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: punching a. Policeman use use of the phrase without specifics
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: as you, useless you, KNOW I i get what he's. Saying
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: so when you say a player has off field, issues.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 6: You had said that he had one of the players
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: that the tattery.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Receiver, yeah, yeah BUT i see what he's saying because
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: that gets used a. Lot oh he has red? Flags
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: well what are? They? Yeah you, know you, know did
• 1:45:20
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• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: Book in, general that's not what we're talking about.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: NOW i know the.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: Draft magazines don't consider the things that you would consider
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: minor and insignificant or not considered a huge red flag
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 6: in draft.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Magazines, right general, Law but it's it's not.
• 1:45:38
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• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: Day it's not it's it's not.
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• 1:45:49
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• 1:45:50
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• 1:45:51
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• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: Things that are causing people to drop in the, draft you,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: know not like marijuana, possession WHICH i think most people
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 6: would probably consider.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: Minor so so we talked about.
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  Speaker 3: Mich, Allister we talked About Kobe young From, georgia WHO
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  Speaker 3: i believe it was like assault and battery was the
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: charge against.
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  Speaker 7: HIM i think it.
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  Speaker 3: Was you, know so like we're talking about like violent,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: crimes you, know things that are involving.
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  Speaker 6: Violence for the most, crimes things are involving. Violence Not,
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  Speaker 6: NO i totally.
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  Speaker 7: Agree library cards and you, know if.
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  Speaker 6: It's significant enough that it's going to cause a guy to,
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  Speaker 6: drop like a guy's going to be a second round,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 6: pick and now he may be a late day three,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: pick then it's generally something to do with.
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  Speaker 3: Violence, yeah like, McAllister i would, say is probably middle
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: of the draft talent or Like duyahual like he's PROBABLY
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: i don't, know like third or fourth round talent wise
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: type of. Pick he might go completely undrafted because of
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: maturity some of the charges brought against. Him you, Know
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: Kobe jung probably a little bit later than, that just
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: based off. Talent but again another guy that it was
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: assault and battery that was held against.
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  Speaker 2: HIM i do like the email.
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  Speaker 6: THOUGH i get it you're right and there's not all
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: red flags OR i would. Not, yeah but, YEAH i
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 6: think for the most, part you can be pretty safe
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 6: that if it's something that's significantly affecting.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: A player's draft. Stock it's usually pretty, significant.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Especially if we are talking about it LIKE i would.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: NOT i don't really necessarily bring up things that are.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: Minor.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: Now we hear a lot of time this, year this
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: time of year about just overall maturity with, players not
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: necessarily that they've done anything wrong in the eye of the,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: law but just that you, know they have some growing
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: up to do and they're not necessarily pros.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Yet and, yeah that can be a red. Flag it
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: could be a red flag for some.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 3: PEOPLE i try to tend to stay away from those
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: things BECAUSE i don't know the. Kid, Like i've never
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: been around, Him i've never been on a team with,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: Him i've never coached, Him i've never any of those.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: Things so, LIKE i don't really know ANY i don't
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: love that about draft. SEASON i don't love the anonymous
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: scout from AN afc team, saying you, know really talented,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: kid but kind of a head.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Case like what does that? Mean you?
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 7: Know into each person their own in terms of stuff like.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: That jacob And Kennesaw, GEORGIA i really appreciate all the draft.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Content can't wait for the draft. Shows it's crazy that
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: the best content comes in the off season for team's official,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: content but you all do a fantastic. Job two quick. Questions,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: one who is one player that you predict will be
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: A patriot by noon On, sunday no matter what the
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: round or position. Is i'm gonna Say Nolan.
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  Speaker 6: Rushi, Okay i'm gonna go WITH i had to answer
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• 1:48:55
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, with Uh bector is?
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  Speaker 6: Jib, WELL i think they're gonna based On Elliott, Wolf
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  Speaker 6: they're going to take A day three. LINEBACKER i WOULD
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: i would be very. Surprised they need some depth. PIECES
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 6: i think he he may not pan out to be
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 6: in every down linebacker in THE, nfl BUT i think
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: he'll be an absolute special team guy from day. ONE
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: i think he has that kind of. ABILITY i like the,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 6: STORY i like the baseball, background So i'm kind of
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: partial to, that but he was a guy that sort
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: of stood out to. Me as A day three Linebacker patriot.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: Type it fills a need.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: His second, question what's what's your? ANSWER i DON'T i
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• 1:49:58
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• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: like there's too. MANY i told you it's harder without
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: The uh you, KNOW i Think Aidan fisher From, indiana
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: the linebacker From, indiana those two guys feel like the
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: linebackers that they might be.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: Interesting The indiana guy is gonna get overdrafted this.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Year, uh you.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: KNOW i don't think higher than they would norm you,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: know because of.
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  Speaker 7: The national title.
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  Speaker 2: RUN i think the other. Way, well because.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 6: COACHING i think they got good, coaching but they're older and,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 6: yeah SO i think that drops them. Down that's, uh you,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 6: know you're starting to see it. NOW i saw that
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 6: was part of that Chefter draft intel. Thing there was
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 6: an item on a lot of the decision makers are
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: taking note of how much these guys are staying in
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: school longer because they're getting paid some money and the
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 6: draft ages is.
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  Speaker 2: Increasing.
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  Speaker 1: YEP i don't like.
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  Speaker 3: It they don't like it. Either with, YOU i think
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  Speaker 3: the the number. ONE i think people will get this
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit. CONFUSED a lot of people bring it
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: up in terms of, contract like the second, contract and
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: you know they're not going to be three contract players
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: because they're. Older to, me it's more about. Upside like
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: when you're already twenty three and you're playing in college
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: football at twenty two years, old you're. Ceiling your finished
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: product is, Capped like your body's already.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 7: Developed you've sort of developed your physical.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: Traits so you, KNOW i think there's value In Will,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: Campbell Drake, May Christian, gonzalez all guys that were true
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: junior declares and we're twenty one years old their last
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: years in. College, Well Drake may was the runner up FOR,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: Mvp Christian gonzalez.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 7: Is a pro.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: Bowler, like there's a reason why those are the guys
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: that go at the top is because they have more
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: potential and more.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: Upside the other part of That freddy that they mentioned
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: was not just the finished, product but the wear and.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: Tear they've played more, Football they've gotten more, injuries more.
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  Speaker 3: BRUISES i, mean Like mesidor is a twenty five year
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: old rookie who's had like four injuries in.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: College you, know second, question what is the best argument
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: to come out of a draft? SHOW i would probably
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: say the rivers have tides argument was up, there but
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: wanted to get your. Thoughts going to need someone to
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: step up and bring some andy.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: Energy so this was not during the draft, show but
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: The Joe milton post draft show was definitely the best.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: One was a little bit during the draft that was
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: the best.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: One Will Joe milton be a distract because of the?
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: Draft?
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  Speaker 7: YEAH i think my time here that was my.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: Favorite, okay and we were very new were thank. You
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a.
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  Speaker 6: Distraction it was such a non distraction that they got
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  Speaker 6: rid of him for.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: Nothing they got the very next.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: Year they got rid of him because he was being
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: a pain in.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: The, ass, correct which is WHAT i said was going to.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Happen that he had not Hurt drake May.
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  Speaker 2: No because he's now In.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: DALLAS i know.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: That's paul like stubbornness right.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: THERE Ps barth for host of the pre and postgame
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: show this. Season he's too. Busy need more of him
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: And fred's, interactions especially When fred is feeling his high
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: highs or low lows and follow and what's the follow
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: up For fred's Super bowl. Gift we never got to do.
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  Speaker 1: Can't it's going to cost you. EXTRA i don't have
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  Speaker 1: that kind of. Money i'm not making fun of. Him
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  Speaker 1: he's too busy during game. Day he couldn't do the
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: pre and post game.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: SHOW i don't think, so because he's either doing their
• 1:53:22
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• 1:53:25
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• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: Sport he does a.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: SHOW i think he, does like a Pre Sunday sunday,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: kickoff which Is i'm on. It sometimes it's eight to.
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  Speaker 3: TEN i sometimes call. IT i believe it's eight to.
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  Speaker 3: TEN i think, STILL i think he does.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: It he could do our show after, that, well.
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  Speaker 3: But then he but the sports have puts him to,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: work is my. Point, yeah it's it's, tough all.
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  Speaker 1: RIGHT i consider, him you consider it for post pre
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  Speaker 1: and post game show. HOST i think he'd bring his own,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: flavory likes to mix it. Up he's a he's a
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: hot take. Guy, yeah he likes his hot. Takes he
• 1:54:04
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• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: Available BUT i think that the sports ub keeps him
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: busy on game.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: Day maybe it'd be good for them to have him,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: here you, know get your training behind the, mic get
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: some real reps.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: IN i will let him.
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i have told him before. THAT i was, like
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: do you want me to bring it up To? FRED i,
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  Speaker 3: will and he he says that he's. Busy, okay all,
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  Speaker 3: Right i'll talk to him about to Play.
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  Speaker 1: Koy that's fine with.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: Me caleb In.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: Knoxville the only offensive players that matter in this draft
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: cycle for The patriots Are Chris brazzle and the third
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: And max and A. Corp so the only two people
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: he says that. Matter, OKAY i think this core, GUY
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  Speaker 1: i think they might end up with him the.
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  Speaker 7: Anitory yeah me. Too, YEAH i think that HE'S i.
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  Speaker 1: Mean Obviously rabel had the big with him and all.
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  Speaker 7: That but you know he did the same thing with your,
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  Speaker 7: Guy Jude.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Bowery that's what he. Does he lays hot hands on
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: players and it's like the. Force they become loyal to him.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: FOREVER I i.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: Know people kind of make fun of the fact that
• 1:55:16
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• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: THAT i actually think that it's hugely.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: Beneficial And i'm not being, sarcastic like the trenches.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: Is all that's what you.
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  Speaker 3: Need to be able to see if a guy HAS
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 3: nfl caliber play strength both in his core and in his.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: Hands and he played in the league and he's a big,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: DUDE i, know but he's also, fifty but he at least.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: Knows what it feels like to be blocked by somebody
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: WITH nfl caliber.
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  Speaker 1: Myths heavy. Hands AND i.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: Think that there's value to being able to add. That,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: he's like he said, today he's not going to write
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 3: up a full scouting report on a guy that's not
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: his area of. Experts so the fact that he can
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: bring in a little bit of expertise in terms of
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: going out To Arizona state and working out ian a
• 1:56:06
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• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: got it or, NOT i think it's beneficial to.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: THEM i just hope thirty years from now he's not,
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  Speaker 1: like you, know.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah wis. Screwed we've got a small window of him
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: being able to, help.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: Not Like zimmer getting not to the side.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: Saying it's the only. Thing, well Apparently Will campbell put
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• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: got to exist, Somewhere, uh tim And.
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  Speaker 1: CALIFORNIA i think mock drafts have helped me learn some
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: of the players that are outside of the top ten
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: on first. Round for, EXAMPLE i learned that the tight
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: end From Stanford Sam rousch is related To Merlin olsen
• 1:56:42
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• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Starting Little house in The. Prairie so if The pages draft,
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  Speaker 1: him maybe he can be in A Father fred. Episode
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: we had A Merlin olson.
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  Speaker 2: Different show that he was.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: On Marlin. Olsen, yeah, YEAH i don't think it Was
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: Little house in The. Prairie he Wasn't.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: Father murphy or something like.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: That, YEAH i, think, Yeah Merlin, olson but he was ON,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: tv that's.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Also i'm tired of the aj brown. Stuff
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: Draft Chris brasel From tennessee and be done with.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: It, Okay me And eldred have turned all these people.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: And Little house on The prairie he was on both.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: Up people are Seconding barth for pre and postgame show
• 1:57:26
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• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: timeouts at the end of game. Sequences it would be
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: radio podcast.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: Goal alex too much to argue with.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: THEM i feel like when you guys did the good
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: To baden the injured, though like once he started to
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: go into special teams in either, direction that would be
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: that would be a.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Problem you wouldn't Be.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 6: You'd be surprised how many times special teams works its
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 6: way onto my bat.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: List it's he can't help. Him all, right that's going
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: to be it for this edition Of Patriots Unfiltered catch twenty,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: two the final Pre Draft catch twenty two. Tomorrow anything
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: you're going TO i THINK i asked you before you're
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: gonna reveal? Anything, Yeah so, well we're.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: Gonna we're gonna do a top our top ten mock,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: draft like the actual top. TEN i know that's Not,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: patriots but it's. Draft, yeah, sure it's. Relevant it will
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: affect who They, yeah And i've never i haven't put
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: a first round mock or anything like that out, Myself
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: so this would be the one time we do. That
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: and THEN i we'll probably share who we think it's
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: really gonna be at thirty, One, okay on the show.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow all, right so we've got. That and then of
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: course our, show which will start at seven Pm Eastern
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: Time thursday, night will have a lot of uh stuff
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: coming from the draft. Party i'm sure we're gonna Have
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: patriots executives, talking Maybe, vrabel Maybe, wolf Mister, kraft so
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: we'll have. That we'll bring that into the show from
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: seven to, eight and then of course the draft starts
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: at eight and we'll be here With bells.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: On we'll also real quick, yeah On thursday from one
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: to two plug you'll Get Mike dussa And Evan. LAZARRE
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  Speaker 2: i do not BELIEVE i will be here for that
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: because it's all, appetizer BECAUSE i just just a.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 7: Look it's like The.
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  Speaker 3: Carpet maybe we'll Get matissa And Chris cassidy up from The.
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  Speaker 2: Bullpen i'll be doing my other.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: Show sounds, good all, Right we will see you On. Thursday,
• 1:59:14
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