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Mega Edition: Brad Edwards And What He Had To Say About Prince Andrew And Epstein (4/26/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles.
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Prince Andrew, who is not going to be part of
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the jubilee celebrations, is now getting hammered in the Sun
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by Bradley Edwards. Now, Bradley Edwards one of the longtime
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lawyers for sixty plus of the Epstein survivors, one of
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the men who played a key role in keeping the
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pressure on Jeffrey Epstein, and one of the people who
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has basically been there from the very beginning. Now he's
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speaking with the son and he has a few things
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to say about Prince Andrew. So let's head over to
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the Sun and let's see what author Alex Diaz and
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what Bradley Edwards has to say about the Joe exotic
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of the Windsor family. This article was published by the
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US Sun and the author Alex Diaz headline creep cast out.
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Prince Andrew condemned to a life of ridicule after a
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sixteen million dollars settlement with sex abuse of a survivor,
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Virginia Roberts, says lawyer. Florida based attorney Bradley Edwards described
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the Duke of York as stupid for maintaining contact with
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Epstein even after he became a convicted sex offender in
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two thousand and eight. Look up until that point. I've
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said it here a million times. Up until the point
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that Epstein was convicted, people could have the excuse anyway
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of saying, well, I have no idea what he was
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up to, even though we don't believe it. They can
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at least use that excuse, and it at least has
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some kind of traction, right. But anybody who was hanging
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out with Jeffrey Epstein after his first arrest, there's no
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excuse for you. You can't say I don't know. You
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can't say, well, nobody ever told me. You can't say
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it wasn't in the news, because it was. Up to
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that point, it was a lot of rumor, a lot
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of talk, and a lot of very serious allegations from
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the people who were abused. But as far as mainstream
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going after Jeffrey Epstein, the media and stuff, they were
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still too busy, you know, trying to make sure that
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his reputation wasn't tarnished. So up until his first arrest,
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people can use that excuse. I find it ridiculous because
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all you had to do is hang out with this
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guy for a little while, and you understood what he
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was about. You didn't need the cops to tell you that.
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But anytime after, and especially Prince Andrew and this whole
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dinner and everything, it is just absurd for anyone to
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try and act like they didn't know who they were
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hanging out with, especially at that point. Mister Edwards, who
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represents sixty nine Epstein survivor was key in getting the
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financier pedophile jailed before his suicide in twenty and nineteen,
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was speaking publicly for the first time about the deal
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Andrews struck with Miss Roberts in February. It comes after
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it was revealed the disgrace sixty two year old royal
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would not be on the balcony of Buckingham Palace for
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the Queen's Platinum Jubilee celebrations in June. I mean, why
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should he, Why should he be up on that balcony
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for the remaining fans of the monarchy to cheer on.
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There's nothing about him that anyone should be cheering about.
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There's nothing about him that should be celebrated. So yeah,
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he shouldn't be on that balcony. Andrew was not publicly
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admitted any wrongdoing is part of the deal and has
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always denied the allegations. Mister Edwards exclusively told The Sun,
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I think Andrew's going to have to have a life
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of ridicule for a long time. How stupid can you
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possibly be to remain friends with Jeffrey Epstein after he
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was labeled a sex offender and he came out of jail.
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Have you lost your mind? I imagine the Queen has
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bent him over the knee a couple of times. I
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wish she should have. That's what he needs, a good spanking,
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a good ass beaten from mommy. But I don't think
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that's happened. And Bradley Edwards, he hits it right on
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the head here. It's the same thing I've said. Cut
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through all the other bs, cut through all the salaciousness,
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cut through all of the stuff that you know gets clicks,
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drives papers to be sold. Why are you hanging out
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with Jeffrey Epstein after he's been convicted as a sex offender.
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You can't answer that question. Prince Andrew couldn't answer it,
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and so he came up with a bunch of stupid
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ass excuses, and he dug his own hole. He paid
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a lot of money to settle the case and try
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to make up for what he allegedly did many years ago.
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I just wish that in the process, Virginia didn't have
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to take the media hit that she did because he
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was trying to cover his own butt. He should have
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just accepted responsibility and moved on. A lot of people
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would hope that the Queen had banished him, But if
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your own mom's not going to love you, then nobody will.
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It's pretty much how it goes, right, you know, the
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saying a face only a mother can love. Well, Prince
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Andrew is a whole ass body of only a mother
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could love. Because I don't know how anyone could look
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at that dude and be like, yeah, man, I can't
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wait for Uncle Andy to come over and hang out
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to watch the cricket game, or hey, dad, can I
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go stay over at Uncle Andy's house for a few days.
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Highly doubt that's happening anytime soon. Mister Edwards was speaking
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at the Crime con con convention in Las Vegas before
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it was confirmed Andrew would not be seen waving from
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the palace balcony next month with the rest of the family.
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Andrew had already stepped away from royal duties before he
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settled with his acute user, miss Roberts, for an amount
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to be believed over sixteen million dollars. Look, we haven't
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got a real number on it. Nobody knows the exact number.
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I've heard everything from sixteen to twenty one million. So
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either way, no matter what, that's a lot of money
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to pay out to somebody that you never met, somebody
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that you've never associated with, somebody that you've never seen before.
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The decision came after his disastrous BBC interview about his
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friendship with Epstein in November of twenty and nineteen. Buckingham
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Palace said this week the Queen had decided appearances on
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the balcony for Jubilee celebrations would be limited to working
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royals only. I mean, what does that even mean anyway?
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Working royal? You're not doing any real work. Are any
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of these people out there doing any yard work? How
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many of these people are out there fixing the roads
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or schlupping through sewers to clean them out? How many
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of these people are working down in the kitchens to
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whip up some lemon cakes for the queen? What does
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that even mean? A Working Royal. You're showing up at events,
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getting a free bag of swag and moving on with
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your life after reading off the script Working Royal. Meanwhile,
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Prince Harry and his wife Megan Markle were confirmed to
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be traveling to the UK with their son Archie three
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and daughter Lilla bet eleven months for the celebrations, but
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will not be on the balcony either. Look. I don't
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Here's the thing. I don't know anything about like royal
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decorum or what the monarchy shit or shouldn't do. But
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I do know this, this Prince Harry kid and his wife,
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they really didn't do anything wrong. They wanted to move
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to America. Oh god, how horrible is that? So I
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don't understand why they're like shamed and the whole thing. Now,
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I might be missing something, right. I know there's other
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things going on behind the under the surface. You know,
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comments made this, that, the other thing. But when you're
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talking about a celebration of at the proportions like this,
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I think you should let stupid bygones be bygones and
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just celebrate, you know, the moment, because these moments are
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all too fleeting. So whenever there's some happiness out there,
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to grab, you should grab onto it. But it looks
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like just because you know this Prince Harry kid didn't
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want to fall into line and do what the royals
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told him to do, he's being treated worse than Prince Andrew.
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In her New York lawsuit against Andrew, Miss Roberts accused
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the Duke of sexually abusing her when she was under eighteen.
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She claimed the abuse took place at Epstein's mansion in Manhattan,
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on his private island in the US Virgin Islands, and
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that now convicted sex trafficker Gallaine Maxwell's home in London.
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See I like that when you call her a convicted
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sex trafficker, that's exactly what she is. She's not an
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alleged sex trafficker. She's not Jeffrey Epstein's madam, She's not
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his girlfriend. She was somebody who was playing a very
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very important role throughout this whole entire thing, relentless pursuit.
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Mister Edwards played a central role in the downfall of Epstein,
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who was found dead in his jail cell after being
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arrested in twenty nineteen. The former prosecutor spent over a
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decade going after Epstein. A wild roller coaster experience he
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wrote about in his book Relentless Pursuit, My Fight for
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the Victims of Jeffrey Epstein. And if you haven't read
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that book yet, I suggest you do. Definitely a good book.
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Gives you some insight about what was going on and
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what was going on in Bradley Edwards's office and within
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the case itself. So like I always say, you don't
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need people like me to tell you about this case
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or anybody else out there. Go directly to the source,
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the people who were on the ground, the people who
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were living the experience. He first became involved in the
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case in two thousand and eight when he was approached
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by Epstein's survivor, Courtney Wilde. She left him shocked when
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she told him her story of having been sexually abused
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at fourteen by a wealthy palm beach man called Jeffrey Epstein.
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And now I know there's a bunch of anger at
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the Supreme Court right now, and tell you the truth,
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a lot of it's justified. But where was the anger
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when the Supreme Court declined to hear Courtney Wilde's case.
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As if that case and that decision doesn't send shockwaves
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throughout the rest of the system. It basically tells prosecutors
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at the local level that they can get away with
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shitting on the Crime Victim Rights Act with no repercussions.
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So it would have been nice for the Supreme Court
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to see this case, hear this case, and make a
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ruling instead of just kicking it back to Circuit Court
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and the appeals Court, where we know they're not going
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to give them any help. Okay, guy. It was through
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her case that mister Edwards uncovered Epstein's sweetheart deal with prosecutors.
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As part of his two thousand and eight guilty plea
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to soliciting and underage prostitute, Epstein was guaranteed he would
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not face federal charges. The pack was concluded in secret
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and without telling victims by then US Attorney for Southern
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Florida and later Trump's Secretary of Labor, Alexander the fall
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Guy Acosta. You know, like they say in the NFL,
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when you're the last draft pick overall, you know, the
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last man picked, you're considered mister irrelevant. And really, when
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you get down to it and you get into the
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weeds and you look at everything that went on, Acosta's
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mister irrelevant as well. Just a fall guy, right, somebody
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had placed the blame on while people like Mukasey and
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the rest of the folks who were running the Justice
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Department at the time continue on with their lives without
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any kind of criticism, without anybody taking a look at
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what really went on. By challenging that decision in the courts,
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mister Edwards and miss Wilde helped expose Epstein and the
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web of corruption around them. Mister Edwards says that during
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their twelve year face off, Epstein wound up threatening him
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with talk of his friends in high places and placing
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his family under surveillance. You see, these are the games
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these people play, right, Oh, I'm gonna put you under surveillance.
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I'm gonna dig through your trash, the whole thing. Well,
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one of these days, these people are gonna run into
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the wrong person with that shit, and somebody's gonna get
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severely hurt. Because I know where I come from. You
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come outside and start digging in people's trash. You don't
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have to just worry about the person who's trash. You're
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digging in the whole entime. Their neighborhood's gonna wonder what
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you're up to and somebody's gonna say something to you,
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and you better have the right answer, or chances are
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you might get that three piece. People aren't playing around
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no more. People are not playing games in communities. And
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I know that my neighbors and myself. Someone's out there
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digging around in my neighbor's trash, or I see some
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car parked out front. I'm walking out and I'm asking
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them who they are and what they're doing and why
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they're in my neighborhood point blank. What are you gonna
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wait for the cops to come forty five minutes later.
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You gotta be proactive in your own neighborhoods, get together
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with your neighbors, whatever it has to be. But shit
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like this, I just I'd never understood it, Like the
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intimidation stuff. It's so foreign to me, Like that type
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of movie shit doesn't really happen too often, right, I mean,
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when you're dealing with somebody like Jeffrey Epstein and you're
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somebody like Bradley Edwards, sure you're going to going to
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be play and counterplay. And but you hear some of
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the people that cover cases like this, and they talk
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about how they're personally being stalked or there's agents of
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the CIA after them, and I just I crack up,
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I just crack up. You're not that important, Okay, none
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of us are. Now. Bradley Edwards a little different. The
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guy was on the ground, he was involved, and Jeffrey
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Epstein knew that Bradley Edwards had him directly in the
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cross Harris and could potentially bring him down. But the
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whole going to people's houses, and you know, I'm not
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a fan of any of that. And if you remembered
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my coverage of the Gabby Patito case, I was pretty
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agitated when people would show up at the laundry's house,
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even though I don't care for the laundryes and I
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knew that they were in on it. I just I don't.
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I don't know. Maybe I'm just a little old in
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that regard, but you show up at people's houses where
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I'm from, and it's gonna be a big problem, a
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real big problem for everybody involved. But eventually it was
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mister Edwards who had the last laugh at Epstein's expense.
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When Epstein was arrested again on federal sex charges in
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July twenty nineteen, mister Edwards traveled with his client miss
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Wilde to the Bell hearing. She then gave crucial, compelling
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testimony to US District Judge Richard M. Berman, warning he
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could not let Epstein go clearly move. Judge Berman decided
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to confine the deviant sex criminal mastermind with the unbeatable connections.
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And it was significant at the time because Epstein was
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one of these guys. He was an enigma, right, He
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kept getting away with things. Nobody could ever pin him
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down for anything, and even when you did, the federal
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charges got kicked back down to state. So it was
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a big deal when he was confined the second time
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without Bell sending him to the jail where he would die.
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Judge Berman wrote, mister Epstein's dangerousness is considerable and includes
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sex crimes with minor girls and tampering with potential witnesses.
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The following month, Epstein was found hanged in his cell
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at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. The Sun reached
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out to a spokeswoman for Andrew asking for comment. Of course,
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no comment came. And the whole entire situation with Epstein,
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the way it all went down, You mean to tell
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me that if you're looking at it just critically, it
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doesn't seem weird to you. How it all happened, doesn't
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seem like there's just too many coincidences. But one thing
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is for sure, guys like Bradley Edwards who were there
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from the very beginning, guys that have been battling Epstein
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from the jump, those are the people who were really
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in the shit. They were the ones who were on
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the ground and fighting alongside these survivors. So whenever Bradley
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Edwards has a book out or something to say, it's
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always a good idea in my opinion, anyway to take
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a listen. All right, folks, that's gonna do it for
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this episode. I will be back with some more later on,
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and I hope that all of you are having a
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fantastic start, and hopefully the rest of the weekend follows suit.
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One of the people who has really stepped up to
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the plate in the whole entire Jeffrey Epstein fiasco from
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the very beginning, one of the only people, by the way,
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has been Bradley Edwards. This is a man who has
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been in the fight from the beginning, basically, all right,
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this is a guy who has been battling Jeffrey Epstein
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and Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise since two thousand and eight.
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Now think about how long that is. And this dude
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has went up against some of the most grimy as
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sons of bitches in the business. You want to talk
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about choppers, That's what Jeffrey Epstein's whole team was. A
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whole entire team full of hit men basically in the
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sense of the law. Right in the courtroom and behind
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the scenes. These guys were, you know, legal snipers basically,
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and Bradley Edwards stood tall against all of these dudes
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and cracked their nuggets. If it wasn't for the fact
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that Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers had contacts that go all the
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way to the very top of the Department of Justice,
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they would have got prosecuted the first time around. And
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that was all because of the hard ass good work
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done by Bradley Edwards. So this dude has stood up
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to Jeffrey Epstein from the beginning, was never intimidated by
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Epstein or Epstein's moves. Epstein had people follow him go
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through his trash, all sorts of cowardly shit, and Bradley
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Edwards gave him the two double middle fingers and told them, listen, buddy,
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you go fuck yourself. I'm gonna finish pursuing this. You're
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not gonna throw me off the scent. You're not gonna
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intimidate me. In fact, what you're going to do is
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motivate me to go harder in the paint. And I
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respect that because I'm the same way. When I start
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getting needled and people start telling me on I don't
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think you should be doing that, you better believe I'm
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going to be doing that. And Bradley Edwards the same
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kind of person. They weren't gonna shake this dude. They
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weren't gonna tell him, look, man, we're going to ruin
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your career or your life or whatever they may say,
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and gonna intimidate this dude off of the case. This
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dude saw what was going on. He understood that these
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girls needed help, and he was gonna do whatever he
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could do to try and bring some justice to those
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who deserve it. And to this day he's been battling
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these people through all kinds of bs. Now, I'm sure
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most of you have read his book by now, but
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today we have an article from law dot com. And
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this article was back from June first, so I had
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it in the catalog and I planned on adding it
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to to the to the podcast, but there's just been
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other stuff going on right now. We got a little
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bit of a lull here, a little slow period. Figured
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now's the perfect time to add this bad boy into
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the catalog and get Bradley Edwards a little bit more credit,
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because look, there are not enough people who deserve credit
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in this story, way too many great characters, not enough heroes.
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And as far as that goes, Bradley Edwards is one
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of the only people that you could look at in
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this case and say he's one of the good guys.
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So let's jump into this article from law dot com
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and let's see what they have to say about Bradley
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Edwards and his chase for justice. The author of this
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article is Rachel Lean and this, like I said, this
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article was published in law dot com headline before Jeffrey
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Epstein Gallaine Maxwell arrests came year of personal years of
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personal sacrifice for brad Edwards. At one point in time,
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I had to hire an investigator to follow Jeffrey Epstein's
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investigators who were following me. Edwards said it was really nuts.
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And look, there's no doubt about it. Bradley Edwards was harassed, bothered,
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you know, all of it by Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey
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Epstein's cohorts. A guy that's just pursuing his job should
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not be harassed and bothered and have his balls broke
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by somebody like Jeffrey Epstein. But that's the way these
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people operate. They always operate from a position of power, right,
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So in their minds they always have the defensible ground
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where they can stand and be protected, right, And that's
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what they always try to do. Oh, we have these connections,
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we have this power, We know these people. Nothing's ever
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gonna happen to us. We have reams of compromid on
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these motherfuckers. So they acted with impunity for so long.
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They felt like they could get away with anything, even
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trying to sweat a lawyer, a former prosecutor at that When,
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upon Beach County teenager first sat down with brad Edwards
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and explained she'd been cooperating with a federal government in
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a massive investigation into sex trafficking allegations against local billionaire
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pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, the victim's rights attorney had assumed his
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role would be straightforward. Boy, talk about making wrong assumptions. Huh,
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I'm sure Bradley Edwards isn't in the business of making
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too many of those, but thinking that this would be
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an easy, straightforward path, that certainly is probably one of
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those mistakes, right, because this certainly hasn't been that. I'm
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sure Bradley Edwards thought in his position as a prosecutor
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or ex prosecutor, seeing what he was brought in front
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of him, he was probably like, this is an open
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and shutcase. This shouldn't be an issue. We'll get this handled,
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no problem, and we'll get some justice. Now. Fast forward
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to twenty twenty one, and we're still on the hunt,
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still waiting for justice. Oh, it's in the microwave, but
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it's not done yet. The year was two thousand and eight,
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the teenager was Courtney Wilde, and she was wondering why
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no one was answering her request for information about the investigation.
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So Edwards, a former prosecutor, thought I'll make this telephone call.
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This is gonna be easy. He couldn't have been more wrong,
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and there's no doubt he probably went into this, like
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I was saying a second ago, thinking this will be
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an easy fix. I'll call down there, I'll talk to
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my old contacts and we'll figure out what the hell
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is going on for this girl. He had no idea
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that he was opening Pandora's box. He had no idea
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that he was stepping in to an absolute shit storm.
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But sometimes we're put where we're meant to be, and
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I think somebody like Bradley Edwards was put where he
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was meant to be, because this is a man who
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has been steadfast. This is a man who has not,
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you know, curled up in fear of these people. This
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is a man who has not refused to answer the
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bell after the roalm. This is somebody who has stood
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in the middle of the ring and has traded leather
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with these people, and has been doing it since two
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thousand and eight. So while other people have abandoned the
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cause or moved on. Not Bradley Edwards. He continues to
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battle these people to this day. Edwards met wild via
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Jay Howell, co founder of the National Center for Missing
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and Exploited Children and also his mother's boss. She's closer
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to your neighborhood than mine. Will you talk to her?
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Edwards recalls Howell saying, and you know, look, it's crazy
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how all of that stuff comes together. Right. You have
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mister Howell from the Center for Exploited Children, Missing and
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Exploited Children gets in touch with Bradley Edwards, and this
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all falls into place again. Imagine if these people never
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took it serious, somebody like Bradley Edwards or or mister Howell,
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imagine they took the same approach as everybody else. For
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the most part, none of these people would be arrested,
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none of this would have been blown out of the water,
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and they probably would have still been operating. So sometimes
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you're just meant to be where you are, even if
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you don't realize it at the time. But when, but
26:45
when Edwards also struggled to get straight answers, he became,
26:48
he became, he become he became concerned that the government
26:52
was quietly working out a deal with Epstein. Citing the
26:55
Crime Victim Rights Act, Edwards filed Doe versus USA, arguing
26:59
that Wild and other alleged survivors were being deprived of
27:03
their rights to meaningful conversations with prosecutors, fair treatment, end
27:07
of notification of hearings. And that's where it all started, right,
27:11
this is where the whole battle really began. As far
27:14
as that part of the case goes. Bradley Edwards was like,
27:18
what the what's going on here? We can't get any
27:21
information because you people are obviously making a deal, and
27:25
we know these scumbags are always behind the scenes, you know,
27:29
cooking up some kind of scummy deal whenever it's somebody
27:33
who has means, whenever it's somebody who's rich, and then
27:36
you add the political bend to it, you better believe
27:39
they're in the back room hammering out a deal. Look,
27:44
the only people who don't have a backroom deals working
27:48
or you and I, the regular working class folk, poor
27:51
people who can't afford a two thousand dollars an hour lawyer.
27:55
So my advice to you is, don't get in trouble
27:58
unless you're rich as focks. Down out of trouble, folks.
28:06
It was Edwards' first federal case, and when he arrived
28:09
in a suit at the West Palm Beach Federal Courthouse
28:11
to personally file the complaint, he recalls telling the clerk,
28:15
I need a hearing, and I need a hearing right now.
28:17
I think that's something really bad is happening to these
28:20
victims' rights, and it's imminent. So look again, nobody else
28:25
was stepping up to the plate. I want to reiterate this.
28:28
Bradley Edwards has went the extra mile time and time
28:32
again and is most certainly in a sea of disgusting
28:37
snake oil salesmen, which are lawyers. One of the good guys.
28:44
Imagine what he must have felt like when he walked
28:46
into this shit storm and seen how screwed up everything was.
28:50
And again we're not talking about somebody doesn't know what
28:52
they're what they're looking at. Somebody doesn't know what they see.
28:54
This is an ex prosecutor. But the clerk fired back
29:02
with a fair point. Edwards had asked for an emergency hearing,
29:05
but hadn't filed an emergency pleading. I said, okay, give
29:10
it back to me, so she gave it back to me,
29:12
and I hand wrote emergency on the top of it
29:15
and handed it back to her. Edwards said, she started
29:18
laughing and said, Okay, I guess this will work. And
29:21
you know, it's just a look at the bureaucracy that
29:28
goes along with all of this stuff, right, there's paperwork
29:31
after paperwork, and you have to fill out this form
29:34
and fill out that form. Oh you missed this one.
29:36
You gotta go to the back of the line. But
29:39
thankfully he was able to bypass some of that bureaucratic
29:42
bs here and the clerk was kind enough to let
29:46
him get the filing in US District. Judge Mara held
29:52
a hearing four days later, but it took a decade
29:55
of pro bono advocacy from Edwards before that judge ruled
29:59
that the gup and had violated the rights of survivors
30:02
by arranging a clandestine agreement with Epstein, shielding him and
30:06
his accomplices from federal prosecution. Imagine that a decade. Imagine
30:12
being a judge or somebody in the world of law
30:17
that has the ability to let this case proceed. And
30:20
it takes ten years for that to occur. And for
30:24
those of you who aren't aware, of pro bono. It's
30:26
not like Bradley Edwards was cash in big fat paychecks
30:29
from rich clients. Here. He was helping underprivileged, underhelped girls
30:38
who were victims of sexual abuse. So it's not like
30:42
the meter was running for this guy. It became a
30:45
personal battle, right and I got to give him props
30:49
for that because I feel that shit in my soul.
30:52
That's how I feel too. I mean, not to the
30:53
same level obviously, right, not hands on the way Bradley
30:56
Edwards is, but from our little part of the battlefield,
31:00
I feel the same way. At this point, I'm one
31:04
hundred percent invested in seeing justice done in this case.
31:10
So I can only imagine how Brady Edwards feels every
31:13
single day when he wakes up and goes to war
31:16
with these people. Somebody's gonna get hurt. Edwards began pushing
31:23
in it to invalidate the deal from its inception, with
31:27
a string of survivor's lawsuits that resulted in Epstein suing
31:31
Edwards personally. Epstein's suit pointed to the fact that Edwards
31:35
had joined the now infamous Scott Rothstein's law firm months
31:39
before Rothstein was outed as a ponzi schemer. Look again,
31:44
like I was just saying, you know how many lawyers
31:46
your scumbag pieces as shit? I'd say a good majority
31:50
of them, folks. And those are just the facts, right.
31:54
I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. It's
31:56
just calling them how I see him. But most lawyers,
31:59
like these hedge fun guys and stop guys, they're all
32:06
working on the short side of the law. Right. They
32:10
have one foot in the law abiding land, but another
32:15
foot dangles over lawlessness. Right, So doesn't shock me that
32:22
there was a lawyer involved in a Ponzi scheme. What's next?
32:25
You're gonna tell me that Las Vegas is hot in
32:27
the summer. Jeffrey Epstein latches onto that sues me and
32:33
one of my clients, essentially for Rico, saying that I
32:36
made up all of the allegations against him, that they
32:39
were false, and that Brad has just concocted that Jeffrey
32:43
Epstein is this serial pedophile as part of some sort
32:46
of fraud. Edwards said, and isn't that rich Jeffrey Epstein
32:50
talking about anybody else getting hit with Rico? Bitch, you
32:55
should have had Rico Predicatet shoved down your throat in
32:58
the nineties, fucking Rico, Get out of here, Jeffrey Epstein
33:04
Vafong gooul that Rico. If anyone's getting hit with Rigo,
33:08
it should be you and your friends, You and the
33:10
rest of your criminal element that's still hanging around. He
33:17
used that lawsuit to try to intimidate me into abandoning
33:20
my clients and dropping the cases. In fact, when he
33:23
filed the lawsuit, he called me and said, the way
33:26
that you're prosecuting me, somebody's going to get hurt. And
33:30
if you will stop it, I'll dismiss my lawsuit against you.
33:34
And that's what they do, right, They try and leverage
33:36
that against you. Oh well, you're going after me, so
33:38
I'm gonna sue you for something else. And I have
33:41
more money than you, so I'll litigate you to death.
33:45
And that's what these rich people do. It's the Dershowitz move.
33:49
Alan Dershowitz is the king of that shit. Sue people
33:53
and at the same time talk about I believe in
33:55
freedom of speech. Shut up, don't believe in shit. Believe
33:59
it make the more money. But there's no doubt that
34:03
this is how they leverage you. When you have that
34:09
kind of money, and you have that kind of power
34:11
and you threaten lawsuits against people, people listen because they
34:15
don't want to deal with financial ruin, right, But Edwards
34:21
was defiant, reasoning, I'm not going away until we have
34:24
the right, until we right the wrongs that have occurred.
34:27
He said, you're going to be sorry for that. Edwards said, yeah,
34:30
guess who's sorry now, Jeffrey Epstein. Let me tell you what.
34:36
I don't lose a minute of sleep that the man's dead.
34:39
Believe that shit dude got what was coming to him.
34:43
The problem is it happened before justice could be served.
34:48
So for all of Jeffrey Epstein's bluster and big talk
34:52
and bullying and coercion and threats and all the other stuff,
34:57
who was really the pussy at the end of the day,
35:00
Who was really the chump ass punk at the end
35:03
of the day? U chomo ass coward? Before long, Edward's
35:11
got the feeling people were watching and following him. At
35:15
one point in time, I had to hire an investigator
35:18
to follow his investigators who were following me, Edwards said,
35:21
because I was worried that they were going to make
35:23
things up. So I was telling my investigator, all right,
35:27
we have to follow them so that we can keep
35:29
an accurate record of what they're going to say I'm
35:32
doing or did or whatever. It was really nuts. See
35:37
that's kind of shit. I'd be drawing the line there, folks.
35:40
Anyone starts following me around, cargoes into the park, I
35:43
hop out of the car and we have a discussion
35:46
right there in traffic if we must. And unless you
35:48
have a badge, we're gonna have a big problem. I'm
35:52
not rowing Pharaoh. I'm not any of these people. So
35:56
anyone starts that bullshit with me, you better be ready,
36:00
promise you all that intimidation, all that bullying. That shit
36:06
might work with pencil necks, that shit might work with
36:09
pocket protectors, but you better come correct, Bro. Following people around,
36:16
digging through their trash, invading their personal life in space, Yeah,
36:21
we're gonna have a big problem. That's me. Fuck hiring investigators.
36:26
I'm hiring the crooked noses. Bro, You're gonna have someone
36:31
show up at your car opening the door, sitting in,
36:35
another guy getting in the back, that guy saying to
36:39
the guy in the front, hey veto here's the bat.
36:43
I mean all kidding aside, though, really you're following people around.
36:47
Fuck is wrong with you, especially a lawyer who is
36:50
pursuing you. And this is just another move though that
36:55
they make. You saw it with Ronan Farrow, you saw
36:58
it with Bradley Edwards, and I'm sure with a bunch
36:59
of other journalists. This happens all the time, and it's
37:06
just another intimidation factor that is used by the rich
37:09
and powerful to make sure that the story doesn't get out.
37:15
It got scary at times, the way Edwards tells it,
37:18
often leading his investigators to camp outside his house. And
37:22
though in hindsight Edwards concedes some of his decisions might
37:26
not have been the smartest, his philosophy at the time
37:29
was the more Epstein threw at him, the more he'd
37:32
throw back. That's a fighter's mentality. I have the same thing,
37:35
I'm the same way. The more you come at me,
37:37
the more I'm gonna come back at you. And you know,
37:40
whatever happens happens. But you're gonna be in for one right,
37:45
You're gonna be in for a fight. You better bring
37:46
your lunchbox. And Bradley Edwards had the same mentality here
37:50
with Epstein. Probably could have won about it a different way, right,
37:54
But if it's fucked me, then it's definitely fuck you.
37:59
So I get it. I feel Bradley Edwards and my
38:01
soul here because I'd be the same way, I'd be
38:03
doing the same thing. Maybe it was because I was
38:09
still just naive and always believe that the truth will prevail.
38:13
But while I was in the battle, I was only thinking, Look,
38:16
I owe it to my clients to see all of
38:18
this through till the end, Edwards said. And I wanted
38:21
to set an example for them that you can stand
38:23
up to these bad guys. And somebody has to stand
38:26
up to these bad guys. And I can't possibly ask
38:28
my clients to do it if I'm not willing to
38:31
do it myself. So being scared is just not an option.
38:34
Let's just go get them. Hell yeah, exactly. You're right.
38:38
Fear all of that stuff. There's no room for that,
38:40
not when you're battling people like this mouthpiece in gloves
38:46
on center of the ring. Throw bombs. That's how you
38:50
deal with these people, just like any bully. They can't
38:54
take a punch to the mouth. They don't want that.
38:56
They don't want people who fight back even if you lose.
39:00
They don't want people who will fight back. You think
39:02
that if somebody's taken your lunch and you start fighting back,
39:07
they're gonna fight you every day for your lunch. No,
39:09
they're gonna move on to an easier target. And that's
39:13
what these people do. If you fight back, forget it.
39:16
They don't know how to deal with that. And that's
39:19
what Bradley Edwards did. He took the fight to Jeffrey
39:22
Epstein had a time when nobody had the courage to
39:24
do so. Epstein's lawsuits settled three years later when he
39:30
issued a public apology to Edwards for the allegations. Edwards
39:34
then sued the pedophile for malicious prosecution. Around that time,
39:39
Edwards was regularly meeting with Epstein, who at one point
39:42
asked him, can I finally get a divorce from you?
39:45
And though Edwards says it looks that way, he was
39:48
secretly working with the Southern District of New York prosecutors
39:51
who are on the verge of arresting Epstein. And I
39:55
love it. I love that Bradley Edwards played such a
39:58
role in all of this because you guys know how
40:01
critical I am of most people surrounding this case. I
40:04
think most people surrounding this case were cowards at heart,
40:09
but not Bradley Edwards. This is a man who stood
40:12
tall before the wagon and never gave one single thought
40:16
about himself. It was all about let's get some justice.
40:24
That was scary too, Edwards said, I didn't want him
40:26
to catch wind of it and think I'm the one
40:28
who did it and then try to kill me, which
40:31
I felt pretty certain he was going to try to do.
40:33
Think about that for a minute. Bradley Edwards, an ex prosecutor,
40:37
fantastic lawyer, thought that Jeffrey Epstein was capable of having
40:42
him killed. So what does that tell you about the
40:45
people we're dealing with here? If somebody on the front line,
40:50
in the middle of it thinks that Epstein's capable of that,
40:55
then boy, oh boy, I'll tell you what. Epstein died
41:00
by suicide, allegedly in a Manhattan cell while awaiting trial
41:04
over sex trafficking charges, a devastating blow for Wild and
41:08
other accusers. But now Epstein's alleged accomplice, co conspirator, general
41:13
all around scumbag, fellow abuser and bipedal serpent, British socialite
41:18
Gallagne Maxwell, is behind bars facing related sex trafficking charges.
41:23
She has pleaded not guilty. Well, of course she's pleaded
41:27
not guilty. We all know that. We all know that
41:29
she wasn't going to just say, all right, I'm guilty.
41:32
Come send me to jail for the rest of my life,
41:35
civil prosecutor. The disparity of power between wealthy, bad guys
41:40
and their victims was something Edwards discovered early in life
41:44
through his mother, a paralegal for Howe in Jacksonville. I
41:48
almost thought of it like they were being bullied and
41:51
they needed somebody to make sure that justice was done
41:54
for them, Edwards said. And I don't know that that
41:57
was always the case, but that's how I envisioned it.
42:00
And again I feel the same way. Look, I get it, Brad,
42:03
I get it, man. Now. I don't have legal chops
42:08
the way you do. But I've never been a fan
42:10
of bullies. And anybody who knows me will tell you
42:13
the same thing. When I was in high school, I
42:15
didn't abide by that shit. I didn't abide by my
42:18
friends bullying anybody or any of that shit. Ever, I
42:21
would always step in, not because I'm some kind of
42:24
tough guy or whatever. It's just I don't dig that
42:28
I have a soft spot for crippleds, bastards and broken
42:33
things folks always have and always will. And the thought
42:38
of bullies sweating people because they're different or because they
42:41
don't have enough money to dress like the other kids,
42:45
it never sat well with me. It never sat right
42:47
with me, and I always stepped up and said something
42:50
about it. So I feel Brad Edwards for sure. There's
42:54
no room for that shit. Bullying and making people feel
42:58
out of place and uncomfortable, that's punk shit. Edwards pictured
43:06
himself becoming a trial lawyer and planned on joining the
43:08
Jacksonville State Attorney's Office. That is until he met then
43:12
Broward Assistant State Attorney Greg Rossman, who, in Edward's mind,
43:16
was everything that a prosecutor was supposed to be. Edwards
43:21
focused on domestic violence cases at the Broward State Attorney's Office.
43:24
It was an undesirable division in Edward's experience, as many
43:28
attorneys felt those cases were less important because they involved
43:31
family issues. Oh yeah, yeah, no big deal, it's just
43:34
family issues. What how many people get murdered or killed
43:38
or whatever because of family issues? Most of them it's
43:41
due to those kinds of situations, domestics. So yeah, we
43:46
need good people like Bradley Edwards working those cases as well,
43:49
don't we But these are serious cases, Edwards said, adding
43:54
as an example, a lot of times they're resulting in
43:57
a husband getting out of jail and potentially do harm
44:00
to a spouse. So Edwards and his trial partner Bill
44:04
Keating made it their mission to treat clients as real
44:07
victims and push tough cases to trial. Something Edwards said
44:11
that he said, encourage judges and attorneys to take domestic
44:14
violence cases more seriously, resulting in more severe punishments and
44:19
less repeat offenders. Let me tell you what. If you're
44:22
at your house and you're mad and you pipe off
44:25
and you smack your girl, beat up on your kid,
44:27
you're a fucking punk. No place in the world for it.
44:32
Any man who raises his hands to a woman is
44:35
a straight fucking punk. And children, you're gonna beat up
44:41
on a child. Here's an idea, tough guy, go down
44:46
to the local watering hole and get into a fight there.
44:48
Leave your wife alone, leave your kids alone. Don't be
44:51
a fucking asshole. I mean wow. And the thought that
44:57
people don't take that kind of shit seriously is just mine.
44:59
Not the impact that has on a child moving forward
45:05
as they become an adult is just impossible to even
45:09
almost comprehend. Coming from an abusive father or an abusive
45:15
you know situation. It's not a good look for a kid.
45:21
Edwards then set his sights on becoming a civil prosecutor,
45:24
feeling an urge to follow up with with and help
45:27
clients after their attackers were prosecuted. But first, Edwards joined
45:32
insurance defense firm Kubicki Draper for trial experience after trying
45:37
a car accident case for shareholder erlen Kote while on
45:41
vacation from the prosecutor's office. Hey, you know what, nothing
45:45
wrong with having some ability to you know, branch out
45:49
and know more. Look, the more you know, the better
45:52
off in whatever profession, even as a lawyer, no matter
45:55
how difficult. When Edwards initially opened his own firm, it
45:59
revolved around one insurance client until a conflict and a
46:03
negligent security case. Through a wrench in the works, Edwards
46:07
filed suit on behalf of a football player shot in
46:09
a parking lot of an amusement park. The problem the
46:12
park's insure was Edward's main source of income, which meant
46:16
he had to choose between the two. I thought about
46:19
it for a few minutes and then said, you know what,
46:22
this is really what I really want to do, and
46:24
it is a meritis case, so I'm not going to
46:27
abandon this client, Edwards said. The suit resulted in a
46:31
three point seven million dollar jury verdict verdict and kickstarted
46:36
Edward's career. So even from then, Edwards had a nose
46:41
for helping those in need. And I got to respect
46:44
that right because how many people are greedy in the
46:47
world these days. And look, I'm sure Bradley Edwards makes
46:49
some money, right, That's what I'm talking about. The extra
46:52
greed on top of it is the problem that gets
46:55
people into trouble. Can Competitive drive is Edward's best weapon
47:02
as a litigator, and something he attributes to the years
47:05
he's spent playing football and tennis. I get that playing
47:09
sports competitively, fighting football, basketball, baseball, whatever it is, it
47:14
gives you that extra competitive drive for the rest of
47:17
your life. Everything's a competition to me, and I don't
47:20
care what I'm playing. I don't care if I'm playing marbles,
47:23
jacks or double dutch. I want to win. Though pursuing
47:29
certain cases might translate into personal cost and sacrifice, Edwards
47:33
reasons that with Edwards reasons, that's what the legal profession
47:38
is all about. When you see somebody that has been
47:41
wronged and you know that you have the skills to
47:43
fix it, then no matter how difficult the task or
47:46
how many obstacles are put in the way, you have
47:48
to put your heart and soul into it and make
47:51
sure that justice is served one hundred percent. Again, I
47:55
feel that it's either one hundred percent pedal to the
47:59
me or I'm not getting involved. Edwards also coaches sports
48:06
teams for his three sons, age ten, fifteen, and thirteen,
48:10
all of whom have inherited his competitive side. Very have
48:15
it quick breakdown on brad Edwards, A quick update on
48:19
Brad Edwards, and just another look at one of the
48:22
very few people who stepped up to the play throughout
48:24
this whole entire thing, one of the very few people
48:28
who had the courage to take on Jeffrey Epstein and
48:31
one of the very few people who have stuck with
48:34
it from the beginning. So usually we're talking about scumbags
48:39
on the podcast, so I wanted to take a moment
48:41
to highlight one of the very few good guys, Bradley Edwards.
48:47
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