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Max Keiser Explains What is Next for Bitcoin | EP 1052 · Simply Bitcoin

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  It's. All going to zero against
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  Bitcoin. It's going up forever.
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  You're against Bitcoin, You're against freedom November.
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  The speed at which Bitcoin will be adopted globally will
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  accelerate by a decade. And if we can get two nations,
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  two nations in the world to be competing over Bitcoin and over
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  Bitcoin dominance, it will induce every nation on the
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  planet to compete in the Bitcoin space race.
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  And so if you want to see the price of Bitcoin sent to the
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  literal moon, what are we talking about here?
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  You're teasing again, David, what are we talking about here?
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  When you say moon, I, I, I'm saying I'm saying if you want to
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  see Bitcoin since the moon, what we need to do is have nation
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  state 1/2 a million dollars, 100,200 thousand, $1,000,000
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  plus. OK, there we go $1,000,000 plus
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  Bitcoin prices. We need nation states competing
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  over Bitcoin. And you know, you can't have
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  competition if you only have one person doing it.
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  So if we can if we can accelerate what's happening
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  here, we can accelerate hyper Bitcoin ization dramatically and
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  I think everyone yeah, we're gonna assume the Bitcoin live
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  cover breaking news culture magic warfare will be your guide
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  through the separation of money. Say ladies and gentlemen, sit
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  back, relax, enjoy the ride. Welcome to the most watched
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  You just heard a clip in the cold opening from David Bailey.
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  David Bailey's the CEO of BTC Inc, the owners of the Bitcoin
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  conference and Bitcoin Magazine. He just came on Simply Bitcoin
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  IRL yesterday. Highly suggest you guys watch
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  that entire episode. It was incredibly bullish.
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  But David was essentially talking about something that Max
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  has been talking about. And we're going to play you guys
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  a clip of Kaiser. He went on this pretty popular
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  show this last week or so, but essentially it's the global hash
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  wars like Kaiser likes to talk about it.
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  We want nation states competing for Bitcoin.
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  We want nation states competing for Bitcoin miners.
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  We want nation states competing for Bitcoin businesses.
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  Because when nation states compete, when jurisdictions
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  compete, you as the individual win because you get to decide
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  where is more favorable for you to set up shop.
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  So it's incredibly bullish. I do agree with David in the
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  sense that this year, this election year is quite
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  interesting, right? You have RFK and Trump on one
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  side and then you have the Biden Harris administration on the
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  other side. And unfortunately, I think the
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  last, you know, year or so have shown that Operation choke point
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  O the proposed Bitcoin mining ban.
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  Of course, Ross, I mean, Trump and RFK offering that they're
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  going to free Ross. You know, it's become this
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  situation where, you know, the 2024 election is an election
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  that will have consequences for the Bitcoin industry in the
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  United States. And that's essentially what what
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  what David Bailey was saying and part of the reason that they
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  brought Trump and RFK to the Bitcoin conference.
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  Now a little known fact, which is why I recommend watching the
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  entire episode. Yesterday, David Bailey revealed
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  that the seek, the reason that the Trump speech was delayed was
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  because there was supposed to be a fireside chat after the Trump
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  speech between Elon and Trump at the Bitcoin conference.
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  That didn't happen. But you know what did happen?
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  It happened yesterday, absolutely broke the Internet.
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  Some of the figures are saying that we had essentially over a
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  billion views. I was having a trouble.
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  I was having trouble getting into the spaces.
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  Apparently there was a DDoS attack, right?
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  There was. They were just flooding the
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  system. They didn't want people to tune
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  in, but the spaces still happened.
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  It was three hours long. And again, we're not a political
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  show. We're not going to focus on the
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  rhetoric. That's not what you guys tune
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  into simply Bitcoin about. The part that we are going to
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  focus on though is they talked about inflation.
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  One of the things that I've always told you guys on the show
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  is we want people to ask a very simple question and we're
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  getting very close. And that simple question is, why
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  do I, why am I being forced to be illegal tender laws to use
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  the money that loses purchasing power?
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  Question number one. And question #2 is why should
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  money have to lose purchasing power in order to function,
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  right? Those are the two questions.
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  The reason those two questions are so important is that they're
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  somewhat simple questions. And once people like embrace
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  that, because inflation right now, the way that it's talked
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  about, it's talked about like as if it's like Mother Nature, it's
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  a fact of life. That's just the way things are.
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  But that's not the way things are.
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  And one of the things that Elon said and Trump were talking
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  about was to get government spending under control because
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  that's what's going to control inflation.
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  That's true, but Bitcoiners are a step ahead.
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  Why are we a step ahead? Because it's not just about
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  identifying the problem and a short term fix.
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  Because let's say Trump or RFK or whatever wins the election
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  and they cut down government spending.
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  There could be another election, there could be another
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  government. They could spend a lot more
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  money. The solution to this is saving
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  and earning in the money of which the government can't,
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  can't debase in order to pay for their own expenses.
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  That inevitably becomes a forcing function over time.
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  It's like a check on government spending, but not from a like
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  I'm going to vote type of thing. It's I'm going to vote with my
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  wallet and I'm going to save and earn in Bitcoin type of vote.
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  And that I believe is the most effective vote you can make.
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  And believe me when I tell you guys this, we are very close to
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  that even being mentioned. We are on the cusp of that being
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  mentioned. And once that's out of the bag,
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  you can't put that back in the bag.
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  And there really isn't a good excuse in regards to government
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  spending because the fact is that it hurts everybody
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  tremendously, specifically the lower and middle classes that
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  don't have the means to save in assets there.
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  Therefore they save and earn in Fiat and they get destroyed by
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  the ravages of inflation. Bitcoin is for you.
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  Bitcoin will save your purchasing power.
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  Bitcoin is the solution to inflation.
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  That's just my humble opinion. Maybe I'm totally wrong here,
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  but maybe I've just spent way too much time in Bitcoin, but I
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  think we're very, very close and you want to bring up my Co host
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  Miss Fields and our guests for today, Raj Raj is with the speed
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  wallet. Well, gentlemen, I'm sure maybe
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  you didn't TuneIn, perhaps you didn't tune into the interview
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  yesterday. But Raj, what was your take on
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  that man? It's specifically not all the
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  other political rhetoric and stuff, but as it as it relates
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  to inflation being brought up in the discussion, I think you're
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  muted, Raj. Yeah, I think it was an
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  interesting discussion throughout.
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  They spoke all about the fiscal deficit and everything and
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  didn't mention Bitcoin. That is not what I expected.
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  I think they should have. I mean, it's the most obvious
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  solution like, you know, to, to hold, you know, overspending and
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  everything because, you know, we may have another four years of
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  Trump and let's say we have efficiency Commission and, you
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  know, we cut down on the regulation, bring the spending
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  down, But you know, we'll have another government would come
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  and then, you know, we we'll have the same, you know,
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  overspending and everything. So if you want to really solve
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  this for long term, we just, you know, have the Bitcoin and, and
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  go from there. And you said inflation,
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  inflation is a curse, But I would say, you know, deflation
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  is awesome. Like, you know, we need to make
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  that as a narrative. You know, price dropping,
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  deflation is really good. Like it it's, it's good for
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  consumer, it's good for everyone.
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  Yeah, it may be tough for businesses, but I think they
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  will they will add up to that. 100% it, it, it's, it's good for
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  everyone and, and people believe in that like you, you, I've
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  heard, I've heard people talk about it's like deflation is so
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  dangerous. It's like you mean by purchasing
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  power going up is dangerous. Like that's crazy.
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  That's crazy that they even frame it that way, you know?
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  Yeah. I mean, I think, I think we need
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  to set the narrative where we say that deflation is awesome,
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  it's good. I mean, just make that as a
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  position. And, you know, I think there is
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  no need to kind of, you know, focus a lot on maybe like
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  inflation and changing that narrative.
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  We just set our own story. Yeah.
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  Deflation, yeah, I think 100%. I think you had Jeff Booth on
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  the show, right? I think we and yeah, I think
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  he's written pretty good book on deflation and everything.
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  It was eye opener for me. Yeah, he he now in the way that
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  he talks about it is just, you know, it's he he obviously has
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  nailed this down to a science, you know, so Jeff knows what
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  he's talking about. Anyways, guys, there's about 590
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  right everybody at the time of recording, the Bitcoin price is
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  $60,520. That's per dollar 1652 block
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  height 850 to 856,621 blocks to having 193,379 having estimate
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  March 26th 20 28 total lightning network capacity 4852 BTC
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  capacity value 293 million U.S. dollars Realize monetary
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  inflation 1.45% market capitalization 1.2 trillion
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  Bitcoin verse gold market cap 7.05% In the gram scheme of
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  things. We are just getting started
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  anyways as it relates to yesterday's spaces between Elon
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  and Trump. I do want to preface this with a
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  small quote from the Bitcoin president himself Naimbu Kelly
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  and this article is always stuck with me.
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  And in in this regard. He's referencing the people that
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  were against the the the Bitcoin law in El Salvador.
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  So, and he makes a really good point and it explains a lot of
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  the reasons as to why a lot of people were against the spaces
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  that were happening yesterday. So I'm just gonna read a little
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  bit of this. He goes on to say the most vocal
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  detractors, the ones who are afraid and pressuring us to
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  reverse our decision are the world's most powerful elites and
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  the people who work for benefit from them.
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  And I'm going to go back to go to the bottom.
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  And they're willing to fight, lie, smear, destroy, censor,
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  confiscate, print and do whatever it takes to maintain
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  and increase their control over the truth and everything and
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  everyone. And again, this isn't simply
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  Bitcoin saying this. This is the president of El
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  Salvador, Naimbu Kelly, writing an article for Bitcoin magazine.
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  All right, that being said, what was really interesting also is
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  that the European Union actually sent a letter to Elon Musk
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  basically telling that he shouldn't do the spaces, which
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  is kind of, it's very interesting, right?
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  You like European bureaucrats are sending letters to the the
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  the owner of Twitter, but most importantly, a presidential
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  candidate saying that they can't have that conversation that
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  that's really interesting. Now take a look at the legacy
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  media's response to the interview.
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  I'm going to just read some of these headlines.
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  Start from the top left. USA TODAY says Trump rambles,
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  slurs his way through Elon Musk interview.
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  It was an unmitigated disaster. Fox News says Kamala Harris
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  campaign criticizes Trump for self-serving up self self
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  obsessed rich guys after interview with Elon Musk
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  Newsweek says Trump Donald Trump's lisp during Elon Musk
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  interview raises questions, The Guardian says.
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  So Donald chatted with Elon and here's the future as they see
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  it. Losers win.
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  Incompetence rules. The New York Times says Must
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  Trump talk on X After glitches start a 2 hour ramble.
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  The Guardian again says the must Trump X interview a surprisingly
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  dull meeting of two planet sized egos.
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  Wired says Donald Trump and Elon Musk's ex conversation took
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  forever to start, then never ended.
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  The Independent says Trump repeats same old talking points
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  in Musk interview but lisp steals the show.
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  The Verge says the Elon slash Trump interview on X started
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  with an immediate tech disaster. The Hollywood Reporter says Elon
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  Musk got EU disinformation warning before rambling Donald
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  Trump interview on X Reuters said rambling Trump Musk
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  interview marred by tech issues. CNN Fact Check Trump made at
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  least 20 false claims in his conversation with Elon Musk.
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  So you guys get the point. The media wasn't exactly a fan
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  of the conversation that happened yesterday.
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  And also check this out. Here is a legacy media reporter
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  actually asking the White House if they're going to censor the
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  conversation. Check it out.
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  Elon Musk is slated to interview Donald Trump tomorrow tonight on
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  on X. I don't know if the president's
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  going to do it. Feel free to say if he is or
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  not. But I, I think that
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  misinformation on Twitter is not just a campaign issue.
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  It's a, you know, it's a America issue.
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  What role does the White House or the president have in sort of
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  stopping that or stopping the spread of that or sort of inter
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  intervening in that? Some of that was about campaign
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  misinformation, but you know, it's a wider thing, right?
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  Yeah, no. And you've heard us talk about
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  this many times from here about the responsibilities that social
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  media platforms have when it comes to misinformation,
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  disinformation. Don't have anything to read out
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  from here about specific ways that we're working on it, but we
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  believe that that they have the responsibility.
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  These are private companies. So we're also mindful of that
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  too. But look, it is, I think it, it
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  is incredibly important to to call that out as you're, you're
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  doing. I just don't have any specifics
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  on on what we've been doing internally.
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  So let me just kind of break this down for a SEC, right?
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  I read you the bit by Naimbu Kelly, right?
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  The most important tool is their control over the truth.
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  I read you this letter by the EU, you know, sending it to Elon
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  basically saying you can't have this.
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  You have the legacy media going on a full on assault on this
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  interview. And then you have here a legacy
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  media journalist asking, you know, the White House press
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  secretary like, you know, or what are you going to do to
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  censor this? Now, here's the thing.
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  Trump is a divisive figure for a lot of people.
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  I could say that, you know that that can be true.
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  But what could also be true is why they so afraid of people
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  listening and making their own decisions.
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  Why do they get to be arbiters of the truth?
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  I mean, I think Bouquet laid it out.
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  We're perfectly right. That to me, regardless of your
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  political views, is a terrifying world to be in where a
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  bureaucratic elite, a journalistic elite get to decide
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  what you can and what you can't listen to.
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  That's very scary. That's a very scary world world.
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  And the reason that we talk about this is you guys know how
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  we stand on the show. It's not left versus right.
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  It's not liberal versus conservative.
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  It's the party of green, the party of Fiat, central bank,
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  digital currencies, nihilism, poverty versus the party of
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  orange, the party of Bitcoin, opportunity, peace and
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  prosperity. That's the way that we see this.
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  This is the party of Green. This is the party of basically
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  saying you like, don't even bother listening to it.
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  We'll tell you it's horrible. It's terrible.
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  Like you might agree with that. Like I listened to that
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  interview. There's a part that I do agree
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  that, you know, Trump. There's some parts where I'm
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  like, I don't agree. Or, you know, maybe he just he
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  was long winded many times you could say, but at least I heard
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  it. And now I'm making a decision
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  about what I heard by myself. Right.
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  And I would much rather live in that world where individuals are
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  making decisions over their lives.
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  It's not journalists and it's not the government, especially
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  the government getting to dictate what is true and what is
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  not true. That's a very scary world to
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  live in. And the last thing that I want
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  to focus on, and the reason that I'm bringing this up today is
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  because they brought up inflation.
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  And remember, inflation is a really kind of like hot button
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  issue to some government politicians and to some people,
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  the way that they see inflation is they blame everything and
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  anything on inflation but government spending.
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  So the fact that this was brought up was very important.
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  And you want to kind of know a reason as to why they're getting
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  so many attacks other than a lot of the other political talking
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  points that we're not going to bring up on.
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  Simply, I bet you that a lot of it has to relate with the fact
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  of saying this choir part out loud, right?
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  Which is I'm going to quote it here.
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  Actually, I think I have the actual audio clips about a
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  minute and 14 seconds. So I'll play it for you guys.
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  You know, as you're saying, you know, a lot of people are
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  concerned about the economy, a lot of people concerned about
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  inflation. Inflation is effectively a tax
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  on people that, that, that save money.
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  And, and, and for people that are working day-to-day, it's,
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  it's just, it's just a form of taxation.
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  And if we can solve the government spending problem,
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  we'll solve the inflation problem, which means people will
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  have a better standard of living.
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  And that's a really big, the people that got hurt worse are
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  the people that did it the way they were taught to do it all
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  through their younger life and their young life and their whole
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  life. The people that saved money and
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  then they got no interest on their money and inflation
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  destroyed them. And frankly, they were almost
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  better off if they didn't do anything like that.
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  I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated.
• 21:48
  And we're going to bring those people back and help those
• 21:50
  people. We've got to get the prices
• 21:51
  down. You know, when I look at bacon
• 21:53
  costing 5, four or five times more than it did a few years
• 21:56
  ago, when when you look at some of the food products and, and
• 21:58
  grocery stores people go, they can't believe it.
• 22:00
  They used to be able to buy a whole cart.
• 22:02
  And today, you know, a lot of people just don't have the
• 22:05
  money. They go in and they can't buy
• 22:06
  anything. So good kind of, you know, goes
• 22:09
  into the political rhetoric and whatever.
• 22:10
  And it's like Trump good, you know, other party bad.
• 22:14
  But the point is, is that it's being talked about.
• 22:17
  Inflation is a problem. Now, here's where I think
• 22:20
  Bitcoiners are ahead and where we have a responsibility.
• 22:23
  And here's some original thought I had from last night.
• 22:26
  I said the problem is trusting that government won't overspend.
• 22:30
  Bitcoin fixes this because it requires no trust.
• 22:33
  Bitcoin is the solution to inflation.
• 22:35
  This is something that Raj was saying in the beginning of the
• 22:38
  show. Like let's say we get Trump into
• 22:41
  the office, Whoop Dee Doo, right?
• 22:44
  There could be another administration.
• 22:46
  You know what they're going to do?
• 22:47
  Overspend. The the the solution isn't
• 22:49
  fixed. It's kind of like a Band-Aid,
• 22:51
  right? But again, it moves the Overton
• 22:54
  window and it brings that discourse into the mainstream.
• 22:58
  Now there's a whole lot of people that are now opening
• 23:01
  their eyes and they're asking questions about inflation.
• 23:04
  They're asking questions about like, yeah, things are getting
• 23:06
  more expensive. That road is A1 Ray Road.
• 23:10
  And at the very end, it leads to Bitcoin, right?
• 23:13
  So our job as Bitcoiners is to accelerate that.
• 23:17
  Don't get lost in the sauce with the whole left and right
• 23:21
  Democrat Republican debate because that's a hot pile of
• 23:25
  garbage. But focus on providing the
• 23:28
  solution and the solution is Bitcoin and it helps everyone,
• 23:32
  right? It doesn't matter where you
• 23:33
  stand on the political aisle, Bitcoin is for you and Bitcoin
• 23:37
  will make your life better. I love the way that Rajput
• 23:41
  posted it. Let's make deflation popular.
• 23:45
  Let's bring back deflation. Let's make deflation the thing
• 23:48
  that people talk about because I think people are brainwashed in
• 23:52
  a way. Like even Elon, like Elon is in
• 23:54
  so intelligent. The guy lands his rockets, you
• 23:57
  know, build self driving cars. His products are great.
• 24:00
  I mean, depends on who you ask. I personally love his products,
• 24:04
  but you know, even Elon's talking about like, oh, this
• 24:08
  inflation thing get get it under control.
• 24:10
  It's like they can't get it under control.
• 24:12
  That's the whole point. They don't have if the
• 24:14
  government has the ability to press the P button right to fund
• 24:19
  whatever they would like, they're going to press that
• 24:21
  button. That's something that Satoshi
• 24:23
  innately knew. He even wrote about it in the
• 24:26
  forums, right? This the only way to fix this is
• 24:28
  the separation money and say the only way to fix this is by
• 24:31
  opting out and saving and earning in the money that can't
• 24:35
  be debased regardless of who's in office and who's in power.
• 24:40
  But in terms of moving the Overton window, it was moved
• 24:43
  tremendously. I'm more pro free speech.
• 24:45
  There should be more open discussion.
• 24:48
  There shouldn't be less of it. And it, it does alarm me a
• 24:51
  little bit that there was so much pushback for this
• 24:55
  discussion. It kind of reminds me of the
• 24:57
  time of of when Tucker wanted to talk to Putin and they did so
• 25:03
  many things in order to stop that interview.
• 25:05
  And I was just thinking about it like, OK, maybe Putin's a bad
• 25:08
  guy. He's a president of Russia.
• 25:09
  You could say that he's an authoritarian.
• 25:11
  You could say all of those things.
• 25:13
  But like, what? How's the conversation going to
• 25:16
  hurt anybody, Right? Like, that's the question that I
• 25:19
  have. Anyways.
• 25:20
  Raj, what are your thoughts on this?
• 25:21
  It sounds like you heard the interview yesterday, but I
• 25:24
  really just want to focus on the inflation because that's really
• 25:27
  what that's really what's going to fix things is moving to a
• 25:30
  Bitcoin standard. Yeah, definitely.
• 25:31
  So I think Elon says that government overspending will or
• 25:38
  not overspending will solve for the inflation.
• 25:41
  I don't think so. It's it's one of the
• 25:43
  contributing factors. But if you look at the M2 money
• 25:47
  supply, it's function of not only government deficits, but
• 25:50
  also like central bank setting the cost of the money sometimes
• 25:54
  too loose, sometimes too tight. We go from booms and busts and
• 25:59
  we have stimulus stimulus, we have bailouts.
• 26:02
  All this leads to excessive like money printing and it is kind of
• 26:08
  a all combined is kind of a root cause of inflation.
• 26:11
  So he didn't bring that up. I don't know why, but I think
• 26:17
  this I mean central bank just setting kind of, you know, cost
• 26:24
  of the money, like just old people getting together in the
• 26:27
  room and just having a feel for economy, some collecting some
• 26:33
  data, which is usually like stale and kind of disconnected,
• 26:37
  skewed in several ways to set the cost of the money is is
• 26:43
  what's the root cause here. And with the Bitcoin we get, we
• 26:47
  have predictability, right? We have, we know what would be,
• 26:51
  I mean, the market would decide the cost of the money with the
• 26:54
  economic monetary policy is it is transparent.
• 26:58
  And yeah, I think Bitcoin is a proper solution.
• 27:04
  Like you know, it's as you said, Nico on your tweet, right, No
• 27:10
  trust required. You know what?
• 27:12
  Implement Bitcoin and that's about it, yeah. 100% Opti,
• 27:16
  what's your take on this, brother?
• 27:17
  I mean, we were talking about it when the when the space was
• 27:20
  happening according to the latest figures, right?
• 27:24
  A billion people apparently have gotten, have listened to it,
• 27:28
  have viewed it. So this got a tremendous amount
• 27:31
  of reach. And I think the legacy media
• 27:34
  attacking it, if anything, it backfired.
• 27:36
  And, and, and again, I can't double this.
• 27:39
  Look, I get Trump's divisive, you might not like him, but I
• 27:43
  don't think, I think we're heading to dangerous territory
• 27:47
  where people just say you can't listen to someone what they have
• 27:50
  to say in their perspective. I think that's I don't wanna
• 27:53
  kind of live in that world. I kind of want the individuals
• 27:56
  to get to decide what they wanna listen to, what they don't wanna
• 27:59
  listen to. I don't think that should be in
• 28:01
  the hands of government. Opti, what's your take?
• 28:03
  Yeah, obviously, I mean, we've talked about this constantly on
• 28:06
  the show, but I think the biggest signal from yesterday
• 28:09
  was the fact that there was a DDoS attack on this, this
• 28:13
  conversation happening in the 1st place.
• 28:15
  Like if you listen to the speech, I don't really think
• 28:18
  that there was anything that was really too crazy upon the
• 28:22
  speech. It was it.
• 28:23
  And you could say it was rambling and, you know, maybe a
• 28:25
  little stale because it was just like the same talking point
• 28:28
  we've heard from Trump. If you've listened to anything
• 28:31
  you said in the last year or so. So it wasn't anything new that
• 28:34
  we heard in here. But the fact that they didn't
• 28:36
  want to have this conversation, it is, I think the most telling
• 28:40
  aspect of this is like, you know, I was trolling yesterday
• 28:42
  on Twitter. It's like me sitting listening
• 28:45
  to two billionaires have a casual conversation.
• 28:47
  It's like a meme of me, you know, listening.
• 28:49
  It would like it, my friends. And it's an ad.
• 28:51
  And so it's just very interesting that they would try
• 28:53
  to stop this conversation from happening.
• 28:56
  And I think it really goes to show that they obviously, one,
• 28:59
  do not want people to get that like humanized feeling coming
• 29:03
  out of Trump. They want those sound bites
• 29:04
  coming out of it. And again, like the, I think the
• 29:08
  fact that Elon Musk was able to identify the the, the problem of
• 29:13
  inflation and he was sounding like a Bitcoin.
• 29:15
  And I think that's things that we said on the show all the
• 29:17
  time, which is very interesting that he won't come out and be
• 29:20
  like, OK, Bitcoin's a solution. Obviously that's not really his
• 29:23
  Ave. or his lane here, but it is one of the defining
• 29:27
  conversations right now. Everyone is getting poorer and
• 29:29
  we're all looking for solutions. And most people think it's going
• 29:32
  to be a political solution. Like most people think that if
• 29:34
  they vote the right guy in office, then we're not going to
• 29:37
  have inflation. And as Bitcoins, they're like,
• 29:39
  no, like they're all Fiat. They're they're all, you know, a
• 29:42
  uniparty at this point. And whoever gets in power is
• 29:45
  probably going to print more money.
• 29:47
  And none of this is going to help you.
• 29:49
  All you need to do is literally start saving in Bitcoin And at
• 29:53
  at this point find your own sources of information.
• 29:55
  Because if they don't want to have this conversation happen in
• 29:58
  the 1st place, I think that's the most telling aspect of this
• 30:01
  whole thing where it's like that conversation wasn't nefarious.
• 30:04
  It would like, nothing crazy was really said throughout that
• 30:07
  conversation. It was just, it's like, OK, this
• 30:10
  is where we are. Me and Nico were texting during
• 30:13
  the the spaces and we were both just like, man, it's really a
• 30:17
  historic moment when you can sit here and just have an
• 30:20
  unprompted, unscripted conversation between a
• 30:23
  presidential candidate and, you know, one of what, what people
• 30:27
  would argue one of the most impressive entrepreneurs in the
• 30:30
  world right now. So like, I think this is the new
• 30:33
  age of the media that we're at. And This is why you're seeing
• 30:35
  that media response where they're like trying to downplay
• 30:39
  the historic moment that happened yesterday.
• 30:41
  And I saw it was like 60 million yesterday.
• 30:44
  That has saw the views around it was live.
• 30:46
  There's a million plus live viewers watching and listening
• 30:49
  throughout the whole, what was it, 2 hour speech or two hour
• 30:52
  conversation? So like, it really goes to show
• 30:55
  the power of social media, the power of peer-to-peer
• 30:57
  communication in the 1st place. But yeah, it's, it's really
• 31:01
  interesting the the backlash and the DDoS attack on, I would say
• 31:06
  a very, you know, very elementary conversation.
• 31:10
  The fact that they don't want this conversation to happen, I
• 31:12
  think speaks volumes. Absolutely 100% by the way,
• 31:15
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  So let's talk about Kaiser Kaiser again, once again
• 33:09
  breaking the Overton window. He went on Infowars and he's
• 33:13
  been saying like very something very similar that what David
• 33:17
  Bailey was saying in in the beginning.
• 33:20
  Not to mention that everything is going to zero against
• 33:22
  Bitcoin, which is incredibly obvious.
• 33:24
  I mean, you guys know that we absolutely love this website
• 33:28
  priced in Bitcoin because it just shows that what Kaiser is
• 33:33
  saying is absolutely right. Everything price in Bitcoin just
• 33:38
  keeps going down and life gets cheaper in let's make deflation
• 33:43
  popular again, right? What Raj was saying, everything
• 33:46
  gets cheaper if you price your life in Bitcoin, including
• 33:49
  housing. Even with housing prices
• 33:52
  doubling or whatever, they've only doubled if you've been
• 33:54
  saving in Fiat, if you've been saving in Bitcoin.
• 33:57
  No, no, no, no, they haven't been doubling.
• 33:58
  They've gone down 84% in the last five years.
• 34:03
  Can you imagine that? An 84% discount on real estate,
• 34:07
  that's what. That's what Kaiser means about
• 34:09
  everything going to zero against Bitcoin.
• 34:11
  Anyways, let's play the clip of him on Infowars.
• 34:14
  Let's check it out. Bitcoin, the economy?
• 34:17
  What are you betting on? What Any other key points you
• 34:20
  wish you would have added after you leave?
• 34:22
  Well, every, everything goes to zero against Bitcoin.
• 34:25
  And you know what do I mean by that?
• 34:26
  I mean that in, in terms of purchasing power.
• 34:29
  So your purchasing power of your dollar obviously is going to go
• 34:32
  down versus Bitcoin, but your purchasing power in terms of
• 34:35
  gold, property, fine art, your business, stocks, bonds,
• 34:39
  everything, the purchasing power of everything relative to
• 34:42
  Bitcoin is going to go down because it's only a $1.2
• 34:46
  trillion asset in the world of $400 trillion worth of financial
• 34:50
  assets, financialized assets. So and just like software ate
• 34:54
  the world during the 70s and 80s and every company in the world
• 34:57
  became essentially a software company.
• 34:59
  You know, car companies are a software company, airlines are a
• 35:01
  software company. All value will become priced in
• 35:05
  Bitcoin. Everything will be priced in
• 35:07
  Bitcoin, particularly energy. I would say the next big
• 35:10
  prediction, I'll make a prediction here is that within
• 35:12
  24 months, all the major global energy contracts will be priced
• 35:17
  in Bitcoin, not dollars. And that will be the end of the
• 35:22
  Fiat money world as we know it officially and the beginning of
• 35:24
  the Bitcoin epoch. What comes after Bitcoin
• 35:28
  standard? Well, it it what comes after it
• 35:32
  is the demonetization of violence and the monetization of
• 35:35
  love. Not to get too freaking over the
• 35:39
  top crazy Alex, but I do really do liken it to like a Christ two
• 35:43
  point O it's, it's a story about love where if you cannot steal
• 35:48
  somebody's wealth through violence because Bitcoin is
• 35:50
  unconfiscatable, you can only approach people within the
• 35:54
  intention of Fair trade. And that demonetizes violence.
• 35:59
  And the profound quality of this is what happened in El Salvador.
• 36:02
  They made Bitcoin legal tender and within three months the
• 36:05
  president put 70,000 gangsters in jail because Bitcoin makes
• 36:09
  you think differently. You know, you don't change
• 36:11
  Bitcoin. Bitcoin changes you.
• 36:13
  And this is what the world has on the other side of this Fiat
• 36:18
  money collapse. If we get there, if we survive
• 36:20
  the next 24 months and the Fiat money collapse, we will wake up
• 36:23
  as a global Bitcoin standard and a moment of Christ like
• 36:27
  universal love. If we can get there, we got to
• 36:30
  get through the next 24 months. We got to get Trump in office.
• 36:33
  We have to defeat the global bankers.
• 36:38
  I mean, holy shit, it's like Max Keiser dropping hot fire.
• 36:44
  And yeah, 100% agree. Bitcoin changes your operating
• 36:50
  system. It changes your whole
• 36:52
  perspective on the world. When you're on a deflationary
• 36:56
  mindset and things just get progressively cheaper.
• 36:59
  Your perspective changes. When all of a sudden you feel
• 37:02
  the power of taking self custody and you, you know for a fact
• 37:08
  that your wealth is unconfiscatable, undebaseable.
• 37:12
  Yeah, that gives you a lot of Peace of Mind.
• 37:14
  You sleep better at night and all of a sudden your life gets
• 37:18
  progressively better. You have more optimism.
• 37:20
  You have more hope about the future.
• 37:23
  And the vast majority of the world is still on this Fiat
• 37:26
  nihilistic mindset. That is because they're living
• 37:30
  on a Fiat standard. So I don't know if I'm on the
• 37:34
  whole doom thing of the next 24 months.
• 37:37
  That sounded a little crazy to me.
• 37:39
  But, you know, Max has had a tendency to, you know, predict
• 37:43
  things in the past very accurately.
• 37:46
  So, you know, it's probably a good idea to get some Bitcoin
• 37:50
  just in case it catches on. I mean, this guy has been
• 37:54
  telling everybody about Bitcoin since it was like a dollar.
• 37:57
  So maybe he sees something that we don't.
• 37:59
  One last bit before I pass it on to Raj.
• 38:02
  What he said about El Salvador was so true because something
• 38:06
  that we've identified on simply, which is this idea that it's not
• 38:10
  a coincidence that the first country that made Bitcoin legal
• 38:13
  tender has the most popular present in the Americas.
• 38:16
  I don't think that's a coincidence.
• 38:18
  The reason I don't say that's a coincidence is because I know
• 38:21
  what Bitcoin has done to me since I've transitioned to a
• 38:24
  Bitcoin standard. It's my eighth year now.
• 38:26
  Holy shit, it's been a long time and it's just like life just
• 38:31
  gets like it just compounds. It just gets better and cheaper
• 38:35
  and you're able to just live the life that you want to live.
• 38:39
  If you don't spend your Bitcoin these days, what is it?
• 38:42
  What is the stay humble stack stats?
• 38:44
  Stay solvent and life gets progressively cheaper over time.
• 38:48
  And I think Kaiser, what he did there, it wasn't as impactful as
• 38:54
  Trump and Elon because they had a lot more reach.
• 38:58
  But think about the audience, them hearing that for the first
• 39:02
  time, right? Like the first reaction is this
• 39:06
  guy's batshit crazy or holy cow, this guy's been telling the same
• 39:09
  thing since Bitcoin was at a dollar.
• 39:12
  Like I bet you there was some bitcoiners minted watching that
• 39:16
  Alex, that Max Kaiser, Alex Jones special man, because just
• 39:21
  in those two minutes like Opti that made that gave me chills,
• 39:24
  bro. Like Max is operating in a
• 39:27
  different dimension, I think. Anyways, Raj, what's your
• 39:31
  perspective on all this? Yeah.
• 39:33
  So I think, OK, I'm I'm here. OK.
• 39:37
  So yeah, 24 months is pretty optimistic, but I if you
• 39:43
  remember the Vijay Boyapati's big blog post about the growth,
• 39:52
  like what will be the arc of growth for Bitcoin, right?
• 39:55
  We start with the store of value, then we go to medium of
• 39:58
  payments, then we go to unit of economics, right?
• 40:02
  So everything kind of priced in Bitcoin.
• 40:06
  So personally, I believe that, you know, we are, we have
• 40:11
  already proven that it's a great store of value.
• 40:14
  I think we last cycle we had Tesla and micro strategies, you
• 40:18
  know using it as a treasury. Now we have the EDSI think
• 40:22
  hundreds. I think the Wall Street is in
• 40:24
  most of the funds have Bitcoin on their balance sheets now and
• 40:29
  there'll be a lot. There are like lot more
• 40:31
  corporations. I think just yesterday Marathon
• 40:34
  announced a $50 million of Bitcoin.
• 40:36
  So I think store of value is mostly proven at speed.
• 40:41
  We want to focus on the medium of payment.
• 40:43
  Like we want to solve for the medium of payment, get millions
• 40:46
  of users who are actually using Bitcoin directly or indirectly.
• 40:53
  And that's where we focus. And probably like once we have
• 40:58
  medium of payment going, you know, obviously the next step
• 41:01
  would be people will start denominating everything into as
• 41:05
  in Bitcoin. Like, you know, people would
• 41:07
  start selling and their services and products into Bitcoin and
• 41:10
  then probably will have the have the contracts or energy
• 41:14
  contracts probably, you know, written in Bitcoin.
• 41:18
  I think that's how it should probably go.
• 41:22
  One more thing that I'd like to add is, you know what, after
• 41:25
  Bitcoin, So yeah, Bitcoin is low, but I think post Bitcoin
• 41:30
  will have stability and peace. Like, you know, the things will
• 41:34
  stabilize. We will have much better
• 41:36
  economic calculations of how the future will be.
• 41:40
  I think as SEF said, you know, when once the economic
• 41:44
  calculations simplify, we will be able to undertake long term,
• 41:47
  you know, projects which are almost impossible to do as of
• 41:50
  today. You know, because the cost of
• 41:52
  money can go from zero to all the way like 6% and maybe down
• 41:57
  to 2% again within the span of five years.
• 42:01
  That's completely impossible for any business to kind of plan
• 42:04
  around, especially small medium businesses.
• 42:07
  So, yeah, I mean, I think we will be out of this boom bust
• 42:12
  cycle. We have stability and that would
• 42:16
  that would bring the air of peace and I think a growth or
• 42:20
  it'll be like a new renaissance. Yeah, new Renaissance.
• 42:26
  I mean, who's coined that term? It's Renaissance 2.0.
• 42:30
  I I feel like if yeah, it's Renaissance two point.
• 42:32
  Oh yeah, Booth maybe. I don't know. 100% agree.
• 42:35
  I think the world is going to see freedom the likes of which
• 42:38
  it's never seen before. And I think a lot of the
• 42:40
  problems that people just cannot see right now, like I think the
• 42:44
  Elon and Trump thing yesterday is an example of that.
• 42:48
  Like, they're like, they're they're like 10 years back.
• 42:51
  Like, yeah, let's get government spending under control.
• 42:54
  It's like, no, no, no, let's fix that problem completely forever,
• 42:58
  right? And of course, Bitcoiners have
• 43:00
  that solution anyways. Opti, what's your take before we
• 43:03
  move on to the culture and talk about the speed wallet?
• 43:06
  Yeah. So first and foremost, guys, I
• 43:08
  highly recommend everyone go watch that whole clip because
• 43:11
  Kaiser just keeps dropping the bombs about where we are right
• 43:14
  now in the current financial landscape.
• 43:16
  And of course, how Bitcoin fixes this.
• 43:18
  It, it was a great speech. And you know, Kaiser does have a
• 43:21
  way of maybe for lack of better terms, getting a little
• 43:24
  hyperbolic. So maybe he did get a little
• 43:26
  cosmic and super bullish. But we all know that this is
• 43:30
  what's gonna happen eventually. What Kaiser said is going to
• 43:34
  happen. And what we've been seeing in
• 43:35
  the last couple of weeks is that this global hash war is playing
• 43:40
  out in real time. As we played in the beginning
• 43:42
  with the David Bailey clip, everyone is seeing something
• 43:45
  very similar where now Bitcoin is becoming the defining
• 43:48
  conversation. And as we played with Elon Musk
• 43:50
  and Trump earlier, inflation is becoming pretty much most
• 43:54
  Americans concerned right now is because it's getting extremely
• 43:57
  hard for everyone to just survive on a normal paycheck.
• 44:00
  And so we're seeing in real time that Bitcoin, at least in a very
• 44:05
  maybe lesser degree, it's becoming like everyone's savior
• 44:10
  right now. And like we say, you know, it's
• 44:11
  no coincidence that Buchele from El Salvador literally
• 44:15
  translating to the savior is doing so well is because they
• 44:19
  obviously got on the Bitcoin standard and of course
• 44:22
  everything else that Buchele has been doing.
• 44:23
  But I think it does go to show that people are waking up to
• 44:26
  Bitcoin as a solution. We're constantly saying, and we
• 44:30
  do get a lot of Flack for it because you know, we came out
• 44:32
  and say RFK Junior and Trump is who we are endorsing because
• 44:36
  they're being pro Bitcoin. But there is no political
• 44:38
  solution out of this. So as long as we get people
• 44:41
  talking about these conversations is how we spread
• 44:44
  this out to the mainstream audience and more people
• 44:47
  realizing that Bitcoin isn't just this, you know, Internet
• 44:49
  nerd money that you speculate on and get rich on.
• 44:52
  But to one of the points that Kaiser said, and I've been
• 44:55
  saying this for a while as well, and Kaiser's, I think his time
• 44:58
  frame was like 18 to 24 months, which I don't know if that's
• 45:01
  necessarily the time frame, but once everyone starts pricing
• 45:06
  energy in SAT or in Bitcoin, that's really when Bitcoin is
• 45:10
  going to take over the world because it's the the truest
• 45:13
  measurement of value that we have in the world without all
• 45:16
  the financial manipulation of the world.
• 45:18
  And we're seeing right now that most people that understand
• 45:21
  what's going on realize the fundamental problem that it's
• 45:24
  the financial manipulators that are wrecking the world.
• 45:27
  And the more games are able to get away with, the poorer we all
• 45:30
  get. And that's the solution that
• 45:31
  we're solving here. Like, you know, Raj was saying
• 45:34
  like Bitcoin as a store of value.
• 45:36
  I, I think it's proven itself. And if we continue to allow the
• 45:41
  financial manipulators to manipulate the Fiat currency in
• 45:44
  the traditional financial world, then there's literally no escape
• 45:48
  from this unless you're opting into Bitcoin.
• 45:50
  And that's what we constantly harp on this show is you need to
• 45:53
  save in Bitcoin, take it into self custody.
• 45:56
  That's the only way to get out of this and protect yourself.
• 45:59
  100 percent, 100%, yeah, man. And it's really, it falls down
• 46:02
  to us like to really get that message out there.
• 46:05
  Like it's not just about electing a certain person, it's
• 46:09
  literally about changing the system root and branch, like
• 46:12
  everything from the top to the bottom.
• 46:14
  And that's, you know, separation of money and state individuals
• 46:17
  taking back their their financial sovereignty via self
• 46:21
  custodying their Bitcoin. Anyways, guys, we're going to
• 46:23
  talk about the speed wallet and what Raj is working on and
• 46:26
  Bitcoin entrepreneurs building on Bitcoin, building on those
• 46:29
  second and third layer solutions, helping it scale.
• 46:33
  So really excited, stay tuned. Let's get to the culture.
• 46:38
  The daily culture. Right everybody before we talk
• 46:46
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• 47:58
  Well, I'm really excited about today's show before I pass it on
• 48:00
  to Opti Raj, you are with speed wallet.
• 48:03
  So for anyone in the audience that doesn't know what speed
• 48:06
  wallet is, could you give a quick one to two-minute elevator
• 48:10
  pitch on what speed wallet is? Yeah, I don't think I'll need
• 48:14
  more than a minute. So speed wallet is easiest to
• 48:17
  use a Lightning wallet. It's not self custodial.
• 48:23
  It's we, we custody the Bitcoin, but it's we it's it's our our
• 48:31
  goal at speed wallet is to just make it super easy.
• 48:34
  You just register it with your e-mail and go from there.
• 48:38
  We want to make this into a spending wallet.
• 48:41
  This is not your saving wallet. You should not save your
• 48:45
  bitcoins on this. If you're going to spend the
• 48:49
  Bitcoin, maybe let's say 100 dollars, $500 worth of Bitcoin,
• 48:53
  you bring that over. And we just wanted to make it
• 48:56
  super, super easy for anybody to quickly register load the
• 49:02
  bitcoins. You, you stand on chain Bitcoin,
• 49:06
  you, you have immediately immediate availability of those
• 49:10
  bitcoins on the Lightning network.
• 49:11
  You can just, you don't really have to do anything.
• 49:14
  You can just start, start spending on Lightning.
• 49:16
  So and let's say you have a Lightning bitcoins, you can just
• 49:22
  take them out on chain or on the Lightning wallet, super easy.
• 49:27
  You don't have to do anything. So a complete seamless
• 49:30
  transition between on chain and Lightning from lightning to on
• 49:35
  chain and like the most easy to use UI.
• 49:42
  And that's what the speed wallet is.
• 49:44
  We just wanted to make it super easy.
• 49:47
  Yeah, I mean, that's what the speed wallet is.
• 49:48
  It's very simple, straightforward implementation.
• 49:51
  What's the difference between for example like wallet of
• 49:54
  satoshi was very popular so like what would be the difference
• 49:58
  between speed wallet and like wallet of satoshi?
• 50:01
  Yeah. So wallet of Satoshi, I would
• 50:04
  say the biggest difference would be the seamless transaction
• 50:08
  transition between the on chain and lightning.
• 50:12
  With wallet of Satoshi you will have to bring the light.
• 50:16
  I mean, either you buy the Bitcoin and load it up in their
• 50:20
  Lightning channel or you bring the Lightning BTC and use them
• 50:25
  with the wallet of Satoshi. So you have to be on the
• 50:28
  Lightning to kind of directly start using it with the speed
• 50:32
  app. You know you have a Bitcoin on
• 50:33
  chain and you want to quickly like transition to the
• 50:37
  Lightning. You know you use your wallet,
• 50:40
  just put your light, put your own chain bitcoins on the in the
• 50:44
  speed wallet, scan it immediately.
• 50:47
  They are available for you to spend on Lightning.
• 50:50
  Gotcha. And questions from the audience
• 50:52
  like what would be like, for example, you guys decided to add
• 50:57
  USDT by the way, for anyone in the audience, if you live in the
• 51:02
  developing world, Bitcoiners like it's like we want Bitcoin
• 51:07
  to be this like, you know, used in everyday transactions, but
• 51:12
  that's not what the market is saying it is.
• 51:14
  Bitcoiners, we should be free market Maxis.
• 51:17
  What the market is saying specifically in developing
• 51:19
  countries is that stablecoins seem to be very, very popular
• 51:24
  and that's something that can be potentially life saving for
• 51:28
  someone who lives in Venezuela or Argentina, right?
• 51:33
  So I, you know, and there's other wallets that have
• 51:36
  integrated, you know, specifically Tether and other
• 51:39
  stablecoins as well. So could you talk a little bit
• 51:43
  about that? I just want to preface that
• 51:44
  because I know we. Have some more core I, I, it
• 51:48
  took me long time to kind of get over this I, I really didn't
• 51:52
  want to touch any shit coins neither the stable coin.
• 51:57
  But then you know, I come from the product management
• 52:00
  background where we are told to listen to the users and like
• 52:06
  everyone that I spoke to who were non bitcoiners, right?
• 52:10
  They were like, OK, I mean, I will love Bitcoin, but it's too
• 52:15
  volatile. We want if you, if you have a
• 52:19
  significant amount, it will be great to have that in USVD.
• 52:24
  It'll be awesome if we can have bitcoins immediately converted
• 52:28
  into the USVD and then be able to spend that USVD into on on
• 52:35
  like any of the crypto networks or any of the crip sites which
• 52:38
  offer like, you know, for example, bit refill will will
• 52:41
  allow them to buy the gift cards, right, be able to stand
• 52:44
  over there. So I mean spoke with more than
• 52:48
  about more than I would say 500 users and probably like 12
• 52:53
  months back and like 99% of them were like, OK, you know, we, we
• 52:59
  would if if given option for the USBD, we would like to saving
• 53:05
  USDT. I mean, I think about other than
• 53:09
  like non like Bitcoiners, you know, there, there is this huge
• 53:13
  section of users who still do not appreciate like the
• 53:19
  Bitcoiners. I mean as as a money as I would
• 53:25
  say, I think most people do appreciate it as a store of
• 53:29
  value. But when we want them to spend
• 53:32
  and kind of retain they, they are like, OK, you know, it'd be
• 53:35
  great if we could convert it into the USVD and just, you
• 53:38
  know, may be able to spend and with the Taproot assets, right,
• 53:41
  that just becomes very easy viable native to the Lightning
• 53:47
  Network. So with the Taproot assets, it's
• 53:50
  it's by Lightning Labs, we can we can actually, you know, just
• 53:56
  use a regular lightning invoices.
• 54:00
  They can be paid with a taproot asset like a stable coin or with
• 54:04
  the Bitcoin and the receiver can decide whether they want to get
• 54:10
  that in sets or they want to get that as a taproot assets, right.
• 54:14
  So it gives a complete inter operate operatability like, you
• 54:18
  know, you can pick and choose how you want to retain the
• 54:21
  value. And we for last year, you know,
• 54:26
  we were we were kind of focused on that.
• 54:28
  We were working with Lightning Labs and trying to see if we can
• 54:33
  if we can just have that available in our wallet.
• 54:36
  So yeah, I mean, I think they just launched like a month back.
• 54:41
  They launched, they completed the implementation.
• 54:44
  It's like, it's still like the first cut And we decided to
• 54:50
  launch USDT on Lightning Network.
• 54:53
  It's available both in speed wallet as well as speed merchant
• 54:57
  platform for businesses. So yeah, just give it a try.
• 55:01
  It's pretty straightforward. You are actually inherently
• 55:03
  still using Bitcoin. So the rails are still Bitcoin.
• 55:08
  If USDT on Lightning Network becomes popular, the Lightning
• 55:14
  Network capacity for BTC like BTC Lightning Network capacity
• 55:19
  will just skyrocket. So it is kind of complementary.
• 55:23
  I mean it will help adoption of Lightning Network.
• 55:27
  It will then after you know be like a entry like drug to
• 55:32
  getting into the Bitcoin, we'll be able to get millions of users
• 55:36
  onto the Lightning Network. And I think that'll open for
• 55:41
  like create, it's kind of a gate to creating more Bitcoiners
• 55:45
  eventually and also it will increase the network capacity in
• 55:50
  terms of Bitcoin. Absolutely Opti.
• 55:55
  Yeah. I was just to say, Raj, again,
• 55:57
  knowing who our audience is, I'd like to kind of elaborate.
• 56:01
  We did kind of compare wallet or Satoshi to speed wallet.
• 56:04
  But I'd like for you to talk about the the design choice in
• 56:08
  the UX experience of going custodial and needing an e-mail.
• 56:13
  Like why? Why did you choose that route
• 56:15
  versus what your competitors are doing?
• 56:20
  So can can you please repeat that once more?
• 56:24
  Sorry, yeah. So for for I know you want to
• 56:27
  make the easiest wallet possible and, and knowing our audience,
• 56:30
  which is, you know, hardcore Max is out here.
• 56:34
  What's the design choice of going fully custodial?
• 56:37
  Yeah. So we had, so we were initially
• 56:42
  trying to make a self custody wallet and there are two big
• 56:47
  challenges with the self custody on the lighting network.
• 56:50
  I mean it's pretty well known. Number one is channel
• 56:53
  management, liquidity management and #2 is offline receive.
• 56:58
  So with the channel management, any self custody wallet would
• 57:04
  have to have a have user kind of become sophisticated enough to
• 57:09
  do the channel liquidity management, which I don't think
• 57:15
  you know, will allow us to bring millions of user onto the
• 57:18
  Lightning Network and offline receive to.
• 57:21
  I mean, those were the those are the two challenges.
• 57:24
  We really do not have a good solution as of today.
• 57:27
  I'm very optimistic. I think, you know, we will very,
• 57:30
  very soon be able to solve it. And maybe at that time we could
• 57:36
  kind of, you know, have another wallet within the speed itself
• 57:39
  where, you know, you could immediately take the self
• 57:42
  custody your hand and have your own mobile lightning node
• 57:45
  working. But with those issues unsolved,
• 57:50
  you know, the experience of self cost free wallet is not a well
• 57:56
  and not good for like unsophisticated users.
• 58:00
  We just wanted to, our goal is to bring like millions of people
• 58:04
  on to the lighting network and so decided to take the list path
• 58:10
  of resistance, which is just, you know, have a custodial node.
• 58:14
  We do the complete channel management, liquidity
• 58:17
  management, make sure that we have healthy channels available
• 58:20
  across the Lightning network. 100% transaction success rate
• 58:25
  was our goal. So we achieved that at speed.
• 58:28
  Like we have like 99.999% transaction success rate.
• 58:34
  So the experience is super smooth.
• 58:36
  Like, you know, any transaction you make will just go through.
• 58:40
  So that was the goal, you know, just make it make make a wallet
• 58:43
  available for non surface. I think we have a lot of self
• 58:45
  custodial wallets. We had a lot of them available.
• 58:48
  I think new TV just pulled out. But I think back in 2022 when we
• 58:53
  were evaluating there were about 5 to 6 pretty good like self
• 58:57
  custodial like wallets in the market.
• 59:01
  And I think a wallet of Satoshi was, and I think strike we're
• 59:07
  the only ones kind of catered into the to the unsophisticated
• 59:12
  users. And one of the challenges that
• 59:15
  we found was, you know, this transition between the on chain
• 59:19
  to lightning, lightning to on chain, which was, which was also
• 59:22
  an issue we wanted to solve that we solved for that and we put
• 59:26
  the wallet out. I mean, honestly, like we did
• 59:29
  not really expect so much adoption to be.
• 59:35
  I mean, we, we were like, OK, you know, we'll just put it out,
• 59:38
  see and you know, anyone wants to use it, just one more option
• 59:42
  available. Right now we're getting about
• 59:44
  like 100,000 to 1500 downloads every day and we crossed like
• 59:50
  100,000 wallet users in like last 4-5 months since it's
• 59:54
  available on the app stores. Congratulations.
• 59:59
  It's huge. And and I, I look like
• 1:00:02
  personally, I'm and again, I know this is unpopular with some
• 1:00:05
  part of our crowd. I, I was a huge fan of all of
• 1:00:08
  Satoshi just because if I, if I ever wanted to introduce someone
• 1:00:12
  to Bitcoin and the more amount of steps that they take and the
• 1:00:16
  less interested they are. Like if it's just as simple as
• 1:00:20
  you literally download an application and you're basically
• 1:00:25
  extremely, in a very short amount of time, you're ready to
• 1:00:28
  receive Bitcoin. It's a very, very powerful tool.
• 1:00:31
  And then you just send someone, you know, like $1.10 dollars or
• 1:00:34
  $100 worth of lightning and they just receive it instantaneously
• 1:00:38
  And they just say that's it. And you're like, that's it.
• 1:00:40
  That's, you know, like that is a good thing.
• 1:00:42
  Ideally, of course, like you don't want to leave, you know, a
• 1:00:46
  considerable amount of money in a lightning wallet.
• 1:00:50
  It's, it's for the coffee, it's for the day-to-day spend.
• 1:00:53
  So I personally am a convenience maxi.
• 1:00:56
  I, I, I have the capability to, to set up a lightning whatever,
• 1:01:02
  but I just haven't done it because it's just like, that's
• 1:01:05
  not where I'm, I'm, you know, a couple $100 in the lightning
• 1:01:08
  wallet, like, you know, it's not going to like, OK, it's like
• 1:01:12
  losing a wallet with $100 in it, like, OK.
• 1:01:15
  And if they rug pulled and they ruin the reputation that they
• 1:01:17
  can only do that one time, right?
• 1:01:20
  So, yeah, I personally, I'm a big fan of convenience for the
• 1:01:24
  smaller payments and it just helps on board a lot of people.
• 1:01:27
  Now my question to you, Raj, is, are you concerned at all about
• 1:01:32
  the regulatory environment in the US because some of the
• 1:01:36
  reasons that Phoenix and Wallet of Satoshi pulled out was
• 1:01:40
  because of the regular regulatory uncertainty.
• 1:01:44
  How are you guys approaching that?
• 1:01:47
  Yes. So right now the direction from,
• 1:01:52
  I mean, we, when the Samurai wallet, you know, issue kind of
• 1:01:57
  came up, it's kind of, it kind of started all the, you know,
• 1:02:00
  regulatory interference with the Lightning network Earlier.
• 1:02:04
  We were probably all flying under the, you know, nobody
• 1:02:08
  really bothered about what's going on the what was going on
• 1:02:11
  the Lightning network. But with the, with the Bitcoin
• 1:02:15
  wallets kind of, you know, coming under the, the view and I
• 1:02:20
  think with that investigation, some of the language that came
• 1:02:24
  out was very obscure. I mean, it's very difficult to
• 1:02:27
  really ascertain if you need the money transmission license or
• 1:02:32
  not. And usually like, you know, if
• 1:02:36
  some, if it's not clear, you'll need the money transmission
• 1:02:40
  license. So we are, we are actually
• 1:02:42
  working on that. And for now, you know, we had to
• 1:02:47
  put the know your customer requirements for North American.
• 1:02:52
  Otherwise we would probably have to make the wallet unavailable
• 1:02:56
  for North America. And we it is it's a trade off.
• 1:03:02
  I mean, you either make the services available and comply
• 1:03:07
  or, you know, just stop doing it and not comply.
• 1:03:11
  So, I mean, we choose that, you know, we'll, it's a spending
• 1:03:17
  wallet. You know, it's not we, we don't
• 1:03:19
  want like people to save millions of dollar on that.
• 1:03:23
  I mean, and honestly, like internally, we are actually
• 1:03:25
  considering very, very soon you're going to put like the
• 1:03:29
  hard limit on how much you can custody on our wallet.
• 1:03:32
  Like maybe you will not be able to have more than $1000 worth of
• 1:03:36
  Bitcoin. We are, we are actually
• 1:03:38
  considering that. We'll definitely put the hard
• 1:03:41
  limit on it. And we, we, I mean, we chose the
• 1:03:46
  KYC route and maybe just, you know, do the compliance make,
• 1:03:50
  but have the service available, make the Lightning available,
• 1:03:54
  keep it available within, have the option available to the
• 1:03:57
  users. But for the rest of the world,
• 1:03:59
  you know, it's just available without any kind of KYC
• 1:04:02
  requirements and anybody anywhere in the world can just
• 1:04:06
  download the wallet, start using it.
• 1:04:08
  We also have the web version available.
• 1:04:11
  We have the Chrome plug in available.
• 1:04:12
  We have lot of different versions available and we'll
• 1:04:15
  make it available in all possible languages.
• 1:04:17
  So, you know, like we'll not just remain limited to that
• 1:04:24
  stores. We'll try to go as like, you
• 1:04:26
  know, horizontal as possible and make this available in as many,
• 1:04:31
  on as many platforms and as many different languages as possible.
• 1:04:35
  But yeah, on North America, you know, I think the things are
• 1:04:39
  very hazy. It's not very clear.
• 1:04:41
  So yeah, to keep the lights on Will will have to comply.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, wait, hold on.
• 1:04:52
  Sorry. I was just going to add, you
• 1:04:54
  know, very quickly. I know there, there's still
• 1:04:57
  might be some people in the chat that are going to flood
• 1:04:59
  lightning. So rapid fire response will
• 1:05:02
  lightning scale Bitcoin? Yeah, yeah, 100%, yeah.
• 1:05:07
  I mean it. It works.
• 1:05:08
  It just works and it works really, really well.
• 1:05:12
  We have small problems with self custody.
• 1:05:15
  I think we should be able to solve it.
• 1:05:17
  It's the engineering problem. But yeah, it like with this self
• 1:05:22
  custody, it just works. You have used Lightning on the
• 1:05:27
  cash app. It works really, really well.
• 1:05:29
  Stripe what's really, really well wallet of shuttle See, I
• 1:05:33
  mean and there are I mean, I look at the transaction volume
• 1:05:38
  right now, it's just estimation like it's just mind blowing like
• 1:05:42
  you know, every day we are like processing about 40-50 BTC worth
• 1:05:47
  of payments right now, even though we are so new and so
• 1:05:50
  small. I mean should be like
• 1:05:54
  significant number for wallet of Satoshi and strike.
• 1:05:57
  I mean, those guys must be there's there is a lot of
• 1:06:00
  velocity and lightning network incredible and lot of like
• 1:06:04
  literally hundreds and thousands of users are actually
• 1:06:07
  downloading the wallet everyday and joining this network.
• 1:06:11
  This is just going to get bigger and snowball into like much,
• 1:06:16
  much bigger, like, you know, payment network.
• 1:06:18
  So I'm extremely optimistic. You know, this is we can
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  definitely, I mean there will be challenges, there will be
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  engineering, you know, challenges, there might be
• 1:06:28
  regulatory challenges, but once we kind of acquire a certain
• 1:06:33
  level of, you know, size, it will become unstoppable.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah, I agree. It's it's like you have to make
• 1:06:43
  Bitcoin human friendly. Like that's the reality that
• 1:06:47
  Bitcoiners don't understand. But it's something that like the
• 1:06:51
  reason that the iPhone took off, right?
• 1:06:54
  Like the whole general consensus was there's going to be a
• 1:06:58
  computing revolution. That was right.
• 1:07:00
  But what wasn't right was the whole keyboard and screen and
• 1:07:05
  whatever the computer was human friendly.
• 1:07:08
  And now everyone has a computer which is their smartphone,
• 1:07:12
  right? So you just apply that same
• 1:07:15
  logic to Bitcoin. How do you make Bitcoin human
• 1:07:18
  friendly? The reality is that self custody
• 1:07:22
  is not a human friendly exercise for the vast majority of people.
• 1:07:27
  That's not to say that people shouldn't take self custody and
• 1:07:30
  they should definitely learn and you should keep pushing that
• 1:07:32
  message forward. But like you guys know the deal.
• 1:07:36
  Like at least in my family, I'm the uncle Jim bro.
• 1:07:39
  You know, I'm the tech support guy, right?
• 1:07:41
  Any when it comes to Bitcoin stuff.
• 1:07:44
  And I'm sure you guys have had very similar experiences, right?
• 1:07:47
  When you have like convenience, like these types of convenience
• 1:07:52
  onboarding apps into lightning, it creates a really pleasant
• 1:07:57
  kind of user experience. And then of course, you know,
• 1:08:01
  like it's like having, you know, if you have more than 600 or
• 1:08:05
  $700 in your wallet, you know, you're going to look at that
• 1:08:08
  wallet a little bit differently, right?
• 1:08:10
  If you have $10,000 in your wallet, like you're going to
• 1:08:13
  feel uncomfortable and be like, I don't need this much money in
• 1:08:15
  my wallet. I'm going to leave some of this
• 1:08:18
  whatever at home or something. So the point is, is that someone
• 1:08:22
  said to come Nico, will the vast majority of people still win if
• 1:08:25
  they don't take self gussy nihilistic field.
• 1:08:28
  So I would say that I think that most people are just not, it's
• 1:08:34
  going to be a very unpopular comment, but I'm going to say it
• 1:08:36
  anyways. Most people are just not going
• 1:08:38
  to transact on chain. I think on chain is going to
• 1:08:41
  become prohibitively expensive in the next 10 years or so.
• 1:08:47
  And most people are going to be interacting with Bitcoin on
• 1:08:50
  second and third layer solutions.
• 1:08:52
  And I think it's going to be a certain group of people that are
• 1:08:55
  going to have the means and the technical know how in order to
• 1:09:00
  operate Bitcoin on chain. Yeah, that's what I think is
• 1:09:03
  going to happen. And it's just a matter of the
• 1:09:05
  fees. Like the fees are just going to
• 1:09:07
  look, Bitcoins going to go to a million.
• 1:09:09
  Like the fees are going to go up, right.
• 1:09:12
  If Bitcoin becomes a world reserve currency, that block
• 1:09:15
  space is going to become very, very sought after, right?
• 1:09:20
  To say the least. So, yeah, I, I, I don't think
• 1:09:23
  scaling on the main chain is that was not a serious question.
• 1:09:27
  Well, I answered it anyways, bro, I don't think scaling on on
• 1:09:31
  chain is the way. I think, you know, second layer
• 1:09:34
  solutions and third layer solutions are the way forward.
• 1:09:37
  And we haven't quite cracked the code because it there has to be
• 1:09:40
  a balance, right? There has to be a balance.
• 1:09:42
  Unfortunately, we still have the, the Fiat, the party of Fiat
• 1:09:46
  on our side and they have all the whole KYC in compliance and
• 1:09:50
  they have the men's with they have the men with guns, right?
• 1:09:53
  That's just the reality of the situation.
• 1:09:55
  It's sucked to me. It blows my mind that North
• 1:09:59
  Korea, China and USA are all on the same list as it regards to
• 1:10:04
  certain Lightning wallets. Like that is not a good
• 1:10:07
  situation for the United States. That's an embarrassment in my
• 1:10:10
  opinion. And that is a complete drop ball
• 1:10:13
  because all you're doing is you're forcing these companies
• 1:10:15
  to go overseas and innovate over there.
• 1:10:17
  That's all you're doing. You're not shutting it down.
• 1:10:20
  So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's not so much, you know, like when I,
• 1:10:25
  when I see a lot of these exchanges and, you know, these
• 1:10:29
  applications, you know, implement KYC and then users get
• 1:10:34
  upset. It's a you're getting upset at
• 1:10:36
  the wrong people, bro. You should be getting upset at
• 1:10:39
  the government officials and the regulators because they're the
• 1:10:43
  ones that are forcing these companies and exchanges and
• 1:10:47
  brokers to implement these things in their products.
• 1:10:50
  Because if they don't implement it, they will literally be
• 1:10:53
  locked in a box or they would be ran out of business.
• 1:10:56
  So that's something to keep in mind with everybody.
• 1:10:58
  It's just kind of like the reality of the regulatory
• 1:11:00
  situation, which is why on our show we talk a lot about the
• 1:11:07
  political environment here in the US.
• 1:11:10
  You have the current administration that has been
• 1:11:15
  pretty hostile towards the industry as a whole, the
• 1:11:19
  Operation Choke .2 Point O denying Caitlin Long's federal
• 1:11:23
  banking charter, the proposed 30% tax on Bitcoin miners.
• 1:11:28
  And then you have two opposing candidates, RFK Junior and
• 1:11:33
  Donald Trump, that have promised that they'll be pro industry if
• 1:11:39
  they get into office. Like these are the types of
• 1:11:41
  things where you don't like KYC, you don't like AML and you don't
• 1:11:45
  like this, the regulatory environment in the United
• 1:11:48
  States. Then elections matter to you.
• 1:11:51
  Like they really do. Like there's, there's a
• 1:11:52
  consequence to it. And that's something that I've
• 1:11:56
  seen Bitcoiners clash with. Like they don't fully comprehend
• 1:12:01
  that because we've been used to operating in the shadows since
• 1:12:06
  really the beginning of Bitcoin's history.
• 1:12:08
  They, they haven't really paid attention to us.
• 1:12:10
  Now it's that we've grown in popularity and there's more
• 1:12:14
  adoption, you start to get into the limelight and that's where
• 1:12:18
  these types of things happen. So anyways, I'm a huge fan of
• 1:12:21
  the Speed Wallet. I definitely think it's gonna do
• 1:12:23
  great for Lightning adoption and just more the onboarding of
• 1:12:28
  Bitcoin. And I do want to give a shout
• 1:12:30
  out to Raj for joining us on the show today.
• 1:12:34
  To check out the app, you go to Speed dot app and you can
• 1:12:38
  download it. It's available in the App Store
• 1:12:40
  on the Google Store and, you know, the smartphone of your
• 1:12:43
  choice. And Raj, if you have any final
• 1:12:46
  parting thoughts for our audience, what would it be?
• 1:12:49
  Yeah, I will say that Bitcoin layer one take the self custody,
• 1:12:56
  not your Bitcoin like not your keys, not your Bitcoin.
• 1:13:00
  We have lots of good options available in terms of hardware
• 1:13:02
  wallets. We have multi sig wallets now
• 1:13:06
  you know I think self custody of layer one is super easy and it
• 1:13:10
  is completely possible to do that even for unsophisticated
• 1:13:16
  users. I think BT Sessions has done
• 1:13:18
  like really great job making the tutorials for all the different
• 1:13:22
  hardware wallets and different kind of the wallets available.
• 1:13:26
  I think you know, we are at a point where the hardware wallets
• 1:13:31
  are super easy to use, multi sig wallets are easy to use.
• 1:13:35
  Self custody of the bitcoins for saving should be the norm.
• 1:13:40
  And whether you are sophisticated or not, not so
• 1:13:43
  sophisticated users don't leave bitcoins on the exchange, just
• 1:13:48
  take it on your hardware wallets.
• 1:13:49
  And so there will not be, you know, lending of your Bitcoin to
• 1:13:54
  the and I think that does affect the price of the Bitcoin.
• 1:13:58
  Like when they land out, they keep circulating the same
• 1:14:01
  Bitcoin to several different buyers between several different
• 1:14:04
  buyers and traders. It doesn't help.
• 1:14:07
  So take the self custody when it comes to the Lightning.
• 1:14:11
  You know, it is for spending. It's a medium of payment.
• 1:14:14
  Don't bring in big amount, don't save it on the lightning metal
• 1:14:18
  wallets. You know, it's for spending and
• 1:14:20
  we'll we'll be kind of focused on that just making it super
• 1:14:23
  easy to spend or use Bitcoin if you don't want.
• 1:14:27
  I mean, I would still say that do not like spend your Bitcoin
• 1:14:31
  in which case we have like a stable coin available which
• 1:14:35
  which is what users want and you know, you can use that for the
• 1:14:39
  spending. There are a lot of, I mean, we
• 1:14:42
  grow the medium of payment network that's going to
• 1:14:45
  complement the Bitcoin price and Bitcoin overall.
• 1:14:50
  Once it becomes a norm to kind of, you know, use the Lightning
• 1:14:53
  network, the next step would be unit of economics.
• 1:14:56
  People will start denominating their products and services into
• 1:15:00
  Bitcoin and then we'll have a proper Bitcoin bitcoinization.
• 1:15:04
  Like, you know, we will have like hundreds and thousands of
• 1:15:07
  business just selling the things for Bitcoin.
• 1:15:09
  I think we really need that mindset where everything is
• 1:15:13
  priced in Bitcoin and doesn't matter whatever the bit, you
• 1:15:18
  know, U.S. dollar in it or any other shit coin prices against
• 1:15:21
  like Fiat token price against it is people just like care only
• 1:15:26
  about Bitcoin price of it. And at that point of time,
• 1:15:29
  probably we will not even need the stable coin and we'll be the
• 1:15:32
  first one to drop it off A. 100% Well, dude, thank you so much
• 1:15:36
  for coming on on the show, Raj. It's great what you guys are
• 1:15:40
  doing, spreading Bitcoin adoption, making it convenient
• 1:15:44
  and easy for people to onboard and stuff.
• 1:15:47
  So I really appreciate it guys. You can go to Speed dot app to
• 1:15:50
  download the application today. This was your show for August
• 1:15:54
  13th, 2024. I'm your host, Nico.
• 1:15:57
  It's my host, my Co host Optimist Fields and our special
• 1:16:00
  guest today, Raj from Speed Wallet.
• 1:16:02
  All right everybody, love you all.
• 1:16:04
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