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Screen to Speed No.26: Jana Schiffer: Sim Racer and Advocate for Women in Motorsport · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to Screen to Speed powered by INIT eSports.
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  In this podcast, we dive into the journeys of remarkable individuals
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  making waves in sim racing and bridging the virtual with the real.
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  From the thrill of digital circuits to the roar of real life racetracks, we explore
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  the passion, Dedication and innovation that drives the world of motorsports.
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  We'll hear from athletes, creators, and pioneers sharing their stories,
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  insights, and the powerful ways sim racing is connecting communities and
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  creating pathways into motorsports.
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  So buckle up, Screen to Speed starts now.
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  Hey, welcome everyone to Init Talks show.
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  Welcome, welcome.
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  Uh, today we got a special show because, uh, we got Janna Schiffer and she is
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  a DAC sim racing expert right now.
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  So welcome Janna.
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  Uh, happy to have you here.
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  Thanks for the invite.
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  A little surprise.
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  I didn't expect that.
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  But yeah, I have some, some alpha news from, yeah, a special place,
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  we'll talk about that later.
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  Yeah, sure.
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  Um, so how do you feel about SimRacing Expo so far?
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  How do you feel, uh, to be a part of this big SimRacing event?
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  I missed SimRacingExpo last year and I was surprised after I saw
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  what's going on in social media and what's going on at the event.
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  I was like, hey, it's just one hour drive.
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  Why didn't you like use the opportunity?
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  And, um, yeah, I, I, I, I thought maybe, maybe our team here where I'm racing,
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  uh, sometimes in the winter, fall or summer cups, Maybe they're there too,
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  and they, oh yeah, we have a booth at the women's area, and much more, so.
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  Join us and I said, Hey, I'm working flexible.
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  Why not?
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  I can have some So kind of I I think we talked sunday about
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  it I joined on tuesday, um Wednesday I was here in dortmund.
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  We we built up everything.
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  It was like super nice to see like, um Yeah, everyone real life
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  first time just chatting or racing.
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  Uh, what's um You Yeah, like like it's it like how it is when you're working remote
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  or have remote contacts or was super cool to yeah Sit and be part of it, especially.
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  Yeah, that's great You know, i'm i'm so jealous actually because I miss this
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  sim racing expo, but I think maybe i'm going to join the next one Um, did you
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  get a lot of people already visiting?
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  your stage Yes, yes, I mean, we are right next to the main stage and you
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  can really see by a large banner on top, like, women's area, I think.
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  And, um, it's like completely open, so, so people are walking around.
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  And, um, Yeah, I was really surprised.
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  I was, because we, we prefer like to open it for women and not have
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  like the men dominate the space.
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  Um, it was really interesting to see the males driving.
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  You see like they're a little bit shy, never had contact because they come kind
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  of as a non racer, just like to be a company with, with a group or something.
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  It was cool to see.
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  This was one part of the, like, first time contact with the SimRig,
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  um, and, like, the other people who are, like, deep into the scene
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  for 10 years or maybe less or more.
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  Yeah, a lot of people, like, um, I would say, raise a leaderboard to, like, 20
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  plus players, racers joined, joined like the competition we are doing.
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  So, yeah, that's nice.
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  Uh, once you remind everybody that, uh, tomorrow you need to
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  sports going to have a broadcast.
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  So right here, uh, with race, which will happen in formal for
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  it near Brooklyn GP in our racing.
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  And it's going to be at sim racing expo.
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  Uh, we're going to stream it.
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  Uh, it will happen at three 30 CST time three 30.
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  Yeah, CST time.
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  So we'll see you here.
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  Um, so talking about sim racing, um, when did you start sim racing?
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  More interesting how and why?
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  Yeah, so I think I, I, I, I, I made the full circle.
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  Um, I was in, um, social metaverses around with my VR glasses.
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  So I tried to find like, what's the next big thing?
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  What, what does the future look like?
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  Especially in the pandemic, we all felt a little bit like going to a concert
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  remote, like, it's not happening anymore.
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  I'm so happy about that.
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  But, um, VR headset and I was thinking about what can we do with it.
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  And I saw someone racing.
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  I was like, Oh my God.
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  Like, it's all about immersion being.
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  Like, immersed into something, and then you're sitting, you have pens, you have
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  a This is, this is crazy good, good idea.
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  And I bought like a super cheap, uh, wheel.
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  No force feedback at all.
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  I realized after I bought a better one.
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  Um, but, um, yeah, it was my entry two years ago.
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  Two and a half years ago, I think.
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  November twenty Two, I, I, mm-hmm . Created my iRacing account.
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  Um, with my, the eyeglasses.
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  I was immediately like super happy using iRacing.
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  Um, I have all of the, uh, sims, uh, available, but,
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  but yeah, my home is iRacing.
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  Um, and yeah, two years.
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  And, uh, I, I don't call myself professional, more like hobbyist.
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  Um, I don't have any racing background.
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  Never race, never been on a racetrack or maybe twice karting.
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  The moment I, I tried it, I was immediately completely catched
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  and hooked and I realized all the things why racing is interesting.
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  Getting better, fighting for the thousands and milliseconds, and after you realize,
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  okay now you can make it alone on a road trip, now start driving with other
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  people, and yeah, it's like for me, it's all that most people already have, like,
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  yeah, we know it, it's like for me.
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  Just new experiences.
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  And yeah, I think everyone enjoys racing and knows what I'm
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  talking about when, when I say good and interesting experiences.
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  So, yeah, I can't even say I had any bad experiences with racing.
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  So super nice community.
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  And, um, yeah, and even with, with, um, my first appearance in the.
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  I was not good, but I was consistent, which helps.
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  So I was completely there all the time it takes and races.
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  And I put a lot effort.
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  I mean, for my hobby is a lot of effort in and.
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  I think I made good for my first ever competition in sim racing I think
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  I was six or seven of all so Not by racing super fast but consistent
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  taking points for everything.
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  And yeah, no, it's fun I enjoy it and that's what what's all about.
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  I think in this community enjoying having fun Doing races, coming together,
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  having the benefit of one plus one equals two, uh, three, sorry, it equals
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  two, but yeah, I wanted to say three.
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  Um, and, uh, together we, um, yeah, um, can, can show, uh, there's a community,
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  um, that is doing something and, and build and grow into, into, um, Yeah, for sure.
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  We've been talking about that sim racing community is really friendly,
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  really, uh, like helpful, uh, to newcomers, which is absolutely amazing.
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  Uh, so when I come to a racing with my big, uh, in real life experience,
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  I also noticed that everybody like trying to help you, trying to, um, guide
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  you through this way in sim racing.
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  It's absolutely amazing.
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  Amazing, and so I'm pretty sure that you played some racing games when
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  you, uh, was young, uh, can you tell what was your first racing game?
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  It's crazy, long ago, we are talking from 1987, it was a cartridge for a C64,
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  like the first home personal computer, like they call it the bread box, um,
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  and the cartridge, it was LeMond.
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  A Le Mans game, but it was like C64, 87 around.
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  So it was just lines driving a car.
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  Again, I had no real life ambition into racing, not was it cars, not
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  was it racing, but, but from the gaming perspective, that's a good.
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  Kind of a view, uh, how, how I experienced it from the gaming perspective.
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  Yeah.
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  I saw NASCAR racing.
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  I think 98 coming up calling make rate two was the craziest rally
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  game I experienced until today.
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  Um, so I saw one too, and I saw the other Colin McRae's and I saw like all
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  this stuff coming in from, from, from my computer, um, kind of, and gave me,
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  I try out stuff and want to see like.
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  What are they doing now with the tech?
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  Is it better with the graphics?
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  Are the physics getting better?
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  And now, kind of, I'm not really gaming anymore at all, because I said I'm just
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  wasting time learning a planet which was created to play a battle royale.
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  Shooter on it or whatever now I'm learning racetracks and I'm learning
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  kind of for me real life skills and like this dry sit swimming in the rig is for
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  me like the best part into sometimes do it with a real car I think um.
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  I'm, i'm really like thinking about like it's cool to uh, uh, Drive
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  on on sim and and everything but it's really not Everyone's goal.
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  I assume we know we save money.
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  We can crash the cars.
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  We can trade and everything like we just have to huge benefit for me.
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  No one would let me, but I crashed millions.
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  So, uh, it's good for learning.
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  And, um, yeah, we know, um, there are more senses on the, on the real racing.
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  Um, you have like a much crazier experience.
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  experience, much more pain maybe too, uh, but, um, uh, and, uh, but, but yeah,
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  for me, for me, it's like, um, in my mind, like in, in a few years when I
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  think, okay, now we can, uh, try some hobby is, uh, racing, um, why not?
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, so what do you see?
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  Okay.
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  Sorry, let me jump in yet.
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  One good point, uh, one keyboard for me when you said, um, about the
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  newcomers, newcomers are welcome.
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  When we talk about how good the community is onboarding helpful for newcomers.
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  Yes.
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  And I think when it gets more competitive, it's always in sports,
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  like you have friends But your competitors too, uh, and it's not like,
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  Hey, I, I, I, I, I set up your rake so you can race better against me.
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  This is happening for newcomers.
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  You say like, it's a newcomer.
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  I haven't set up.
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  I give him my setup even because he doesn't even know how to use this setup.
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  So yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's awesome.
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  Yeah.
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  That's great.
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  And And also a really good thing that, uh, people who's coming, who's new
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  in, for example, in a racing, they can meet people with the same racing
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  level, and then they can go step by step, uh, develop and improve on track.
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  And this is a absolutely amazing.
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  And what I also noticed, um, unfortunately as a race in Asia, uh,
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  we had quite competitive serious here.
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  Uh, but I can tell you that, uh, You know, racing got more competitive people,
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  like you're getting into, uh, like top split in a racing and here's a crazy
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  fast people like every day, like just the daily racing, uh, they crazy fast
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  and, uh, you always, uh, got a room for improvement and you always got a
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  goal to, to go for, and that's amazing.
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  Truly.
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  On all levels.
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  Exactly, exactly.
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  And I, I, I can't really talk about other sims because I'm not deep experienced in
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  I, and I don't want to, to only talk about iRacing, but from my perspective, the,
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  the, the way how, how it's structured with kind of the weeks, you focus on one car
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  and one track, you maybe have like, okay, let's try another, I have a mood today or
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  whatever, but you're really focusing on.
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  weekly getting like based skills and Then when you go into the next cycle you build
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  on top like oh, we are in okayama again.
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  Awesome I'm now faster than last time and I really Saw like how
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  how it's growing on my side.
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  I'm i'm not i'm not having high eye rating points Not high.
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  I don't care like I practice every day almost but But not even in races.
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  Like maybe one race a week.
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  I'm so stressed in races.
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  It's unbelievable.
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  I even brought up pulse meter back to look what's happening.
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  I was like, it's going up to 140, 60 without doing anything.
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  60 in a rig.
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  From 70.
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  So it's crazy.
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  And yeah, what on the other side it's excitement for me.
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  It's crazy.
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  Seems to, like,
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  shake me in my whole body.
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  Did you find something, uh, to fight with this, uh, with this stress or
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  are you just like, okay, I'm just going to live with it and we're
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  going to race or something like this?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Just, just more experience.
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  That's my experience.
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  Like I just told today, like, when I had my first ever race.
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  Last time in the Winter Cup, my very first competitive race, I was sitting
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  there, I drank maybe two Red Bulls, I think, I had a cramp in my leg,
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  and then I go, no, it's Red Lights!
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  And then I had a cramp in my other leg, I was, no, I need to race!
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  This is like, I was completely wasted, kind of.
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  I made it, I made it.
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  And um, this time, I, I, the time I take 10 laps, I said a good lap,
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  I was like on page one, I said.
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  She's just chill and in the race It was okay.
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  I was happy.
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  I did one incident point in both races.
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  I wasn't slow I was exactly in the midfield like four seconds front of
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  me and four seconds behind me So I was just doing my easy race and was happy.
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  I'm not Killing the race for the better and not getting killed
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  So, so it was really super chilled.
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  I don't have any pulse, but I would say it was 100 ish.
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  If we measure it in pulse, in bpm.
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  Right.
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  Uh, Kierkegaard.
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  The experience, really, the experience is a comfort zone.
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  Everyone knows like going into something you never did.
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  It's kind of out of your comfort zone.
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  You immediately get a little bit stressed if you're like that and um, yeah and
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  Second time third and fourth time, you know it and as similar it's for races.
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  I was I don't know.
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  I think it's Just going lower down The more you train,
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  yeah, but it's still there.
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  I can't say it's gone.
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  Yeah, that, that's awesome.
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  Really.
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  Um, like you, you in a race, you, uh, stressful sometimes, sometimes you
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  feel like, okay, I can do my race.
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  Like you, you got the safe bubble around you.
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  Uh, that's great to have always.
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  Uh, but yeah, sometimes you're just getting into races where you go in.
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  Like this to everybody, like really close and you stressful whole race, trying
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  to hold this position, no mistakes.
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  It's so excited every time.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm out of this, you know, I'm, I'm, um, over like the first trouble
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  you have, like, just keeping it on the road, like the very beginner.
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  And I'm not at the point that I say, okay, I'm gonna get this on P1.
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  I know.
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  So, so even like, I'm trying to avoid the hardcore races because
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  I know my heart will pay it back.
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  I'm joking.
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  No, really joking, but um, I'm not, I'm not rushing into
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  hardcore getting the best.
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  This is normally something which every school does.
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  For the enthusiast ones, like, to be the best, I'm, I'm joining, I'm doing,
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  I'm doing a soft launch, I could say.
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  Yeah.
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  Sometimes I'm just, uh, you know, trying to stop myself, like, okay, we're just
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  going to wait, we're going to let go of someone, they're going to crash,
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  we'll gain, like, a couple of positions.
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  But yeah, sometimes it's really hard to stop yourself from like rushing or getting
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  someone and you just go for it sometimes.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I, I, I'm not, um, I'm not here for the competition at the moment.
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  I'm here for the learning, for the learning curve until I can
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  say like, You're gonna see what you have when I race with you.
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  May take some time, but yeah, enjoying a lot the learning phase, right?
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  And you, everyone can say what they want, they have.
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  Sure you're, we lock up, like you're braking and like
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  going into the corner.
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  Yeah, I'm learning it.
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  I don't care.
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  I can show you other stuff.
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  Uh, you'd have an experience.
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  Um, the life is full of so many stuff and interesting is like, I call myself
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  generalist because I'm doing so much stuff and I did in my life so much stuff.
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  I was skateboarding for years, um, on, on, on, on large ramps,
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  like three meter 50 ramps.
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  I did drop in and skated.
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  I did graffiti, hip hop.
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  I DJ'd a few years.
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  I had a band, but it was all faces kind of.
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  Um, I feel with racing, like it's much more hardcore to get in.
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  So it takes much longer and I'm super excited.
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  Still after two and a half years I go see still no path or ending of the tunnel like
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  ah cool in two and a half years I mastered it I can go to the next one no there's so
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  much more As I said like if you mastered or AI at some point Competition you say
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  like sim racing was just my training.
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  It's There's another complete world, right?
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  Yeah.
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  And I remember like a colleague, a friend called me when we've been in,
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  in, uh, in the holidays at the beach, like every day I wanted to do something
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  like, let's go jet ski, let's go this, like, and I'm always want to have action.
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  That's why my discord is never boring.
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  It's never boring.
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  It's never boring.
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  That's really cool.
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  Yeah.
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  You, you're so, um, so positive.
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  So, uh, dedicated about what you're doing.
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  That that's great.
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  Uh, definitely.
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  Um, so what do you think?
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  Um, is it, uh, possible for people now to jump from sim racing to real racing?
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  Like, uh, how do you see this?
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  Because, um, we, we definitely can see that.
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  A lot of people, um, like jumping from sim racing to real sport and
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  they compete in real sport as well.
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  Um, what do you think about this from your side?
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  Yeah, um, I mean, I'm not at age five anymore.
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  So I can say like, okay, I push it from now and in 15 years, I can be competitive,
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  competitive, like in the first league.
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  Um, I started when most of the racers stopped their career, I'm 43 now, and
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  um, I think sim racing is not a hobby for a five year old regularly, so people
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  start if they cannot afford like or have like connections, family who are already
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  racing and they are in from from any kind of their network or surrounding.
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  Um, what happens like Super often, I mean, even most of the sim racers in
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  their, if they are not professionals in their job, they do something with racing
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  cars or like, it's like one large bubble, I would say many, many tiny bubbles,
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  but, um, and it's definitely the entry.
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  And, um, I'm, I think many people proved it already, uh, is away
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  from sim racing, having a career.
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  Over many years in simracing, going into simracing, or, or, or, like, um,
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  twitching, really, like, okay, I'm at a point where it's like, I think
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  I can make it, I maybe do a little bit of training, but, but I focus on
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  real racing, it's a thing, I, I, I, when I look, like, at, at YouTube, or,
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  or stuff, like, I see it popping up.
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  Um,
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  , um, Amida, I think, yeah.
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  What was his name?
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  Amida.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, he, he did like the, uh, switch to, to the radical.
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  Mm-hmm . Um, as three, I think.
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  Super cool.
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  I saw one or two races of him.
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  It's good to see I as from a, from a, from a EXIM of perspective going the
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  way, it's cool that he documents it.
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  But he does, um, is, uh, awesome and other stuff too.
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  But um, yeah, seeing someone, uh, sim racing in NASCAR, uh, in
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  IndyCar, it was in NASCAR I think.
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  One, one guy, I, I'm not, was it William Byron?
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  I'm not in the US, sorry for that.
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  I am not into NASCAR, I don't know all the drivers, but I think that I
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  heard it at some race, that William Byron was a sim racer too and then
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  came into, into NASCAR racing.
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  So yeah, it's possible, why not?
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  And especially possible for someone who started at age 14, 16, 20, who normally
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  doesn't have any career in sports anymore.
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  Do what you love, be a super enthusiast, uh, and, and, um, enjoy it at some point.
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  You, you, you, you have a choice.
• 24:51
  Um, do you want to go more into the direction or keep your
• 24:56
  job as, as your main income?
• 24:59
  Um, If there is an opportunity, are you getting an opportunity, are you
• 25:03
  building an opportunity, whatever.
• 25:05
  I always say like, If you think about something and, um, you, you, you, you,
• 25:14
  like, you build the future based on, on kind of your thoughts, um, you, you
• 25:20
  think about, Oh, what can I do tomorrow?
• 25:23
  I need to get, uh, my new wheel or I need to set up this stuff.
• 25:28
  You're already planning that you're going into one direction.
• 25:31
  So your thoughts kind of, um, and yeah.
• 25:34
  I definitely agree, uh, that, um, there's a way to transition from,
• 25:41
  from sim racing to real racing too.
• 25:46
  Yeah.
• 25:46
  That's a really good thing that, which you said, uh, about your
• 25:50
  thoughts building your future.
• 25:52
  Uh, that's really.
• 25:53
  Um, that's also working on the racing track, uh, because you
• 25:59
  trying to think about the next corner when you just coming into it.
• 26:02
  And yeah, this is how the whole life is working as well.
• 26:07
  Um, Can you tell me what is your favorite car in iRacing?
• 26:12
  As we're talking about iRacing, you're in the simulator, me too.
• 26:16
  Um, my favorite one would be Porsche Cup, so what's your car to go?
• 26:23
  Yeah, I went the classic road, Mazda, Toyota.
• 26:27
  And then there was a question, what's next?
• 26:29
  Um, Toyota, I didn't, I knew you need to be super fast and everyone
• 26:35
  is in one or two seconds in the end and it's a different way to race.
• 26:40
  Um, I love the, um, BMW V8, uh, Le Mans, like the GTP car.
• 26:48
  Um, I love it.
• 26:49
  Um, if I say like, am I competitive?
• 26:55
  No, it's like for sure, even a larger gap than in the other cars, but I can race.
• 27:02
  Um, like racing is not about being fast as I said, like be
• 27:06
  consistent or making mistakes.
• 27:08
  Like so many times you just like had a carnage and even like
• 27:13
  in the Morris, I was leading.
• 27:16
  90 percent of the laps and then in the last lap in the hairpin I did like
• 27:21
  a full circle with my car and yeah
• 27:28
  Fast cars.
• 27:29
  I love I love really the Porsche too.
• 27:31
  Um, I I switched after I did one season of Porsche to GT3 GT4s to
• 27:38
  experience what's happening there.
• 27:40
  Um, And I realized oh Braking is so easy now because I have so many
• 27:45
  assistant systems in those cars You Going back to the person, knocking
• 27:50
  out words, and I was like, no!
• 27:52
  Oh, that's what's about in the Porsche like you need to have a little bit
• 27:56
  more skill And yeah, I that's what my experience was like you have less
• 28:01
  assistance So more skill and the Porsche is really cool Um, and before I went here,
• 28:07
  I bought the radical as a 10 and I bought it Was flying through the Nordschleife
• 28:13
  because I had rear racing the Nürburgring.
• 28:15
  It was a Yeah good, but Nordschleife, Nürburgring GP is okay, but Nordschleife
• 28:21
  I'm not really competitive So let's get something going that you have fun
• 28:26
  trading some some Nürburgring and VW and Wow, what a car so much down for
• 28:33
  us Unbelievable I did like One evening of like one or two hours driving.
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  I don't know if it's competitive.
• 28:44
  I know it was somewhere between 8 20, 8 40 or something where,
• 28:49
  where I had the GT card, but this thing, I was 6 38 on the box.
• 28:56
  Like it was What?
• 28:57
  What, what be was something about six nine different what?
• 29:00
  I don't know what it did, but it was just flying.
• 29:03
  The kind was like, okay.
• 29:08
  You don't need to break here anymore?
• 29:10
  Oh, so yeah, this is how I experience it.
• 29:13
  It's like, you see it like, um, when I'm talking about it.
• 29:18
  Yeah, it's happening inside me when I Yeah, you know, formulas, prototypes,
• 29:25
  they're super fast, especially when you're switching from GT cars, they're like So
• 29:30
  crazy give you a lot of emotions and uh, yeah, you just can't get into the corner.
• 29:37
  You're like wow I can break like a little bit and get into this and you
• 29:41
  downforce going to help me in the corner and I'm going to Get a lot
• 29:45
  of grapes Yeah, I absolutely agree.
• 29:47
  You know, uh, prototypes, specials.
• 29:48
  Yeah, you mentioned formula cars.
• 29:50
  I bought the Mercedes when it came out to just see like how is it,
• 29:56
  how is it to sit in a formula car.
• 29:58
  Uh, I mean in a sim, um, but I really love the the asian the super
• 30:03
  formula Wow, this is so much fun.
• 30:06
  I don't know the differences.
• 30:08
  I don't really know much.
• 30:10
  I know it's Wow, for sure, etc but um I just, I just love it.
• 30:17
  I, I, I, it's like, you, you, you, you, you, you, that cast you need
• 30:21
  to learn to handle and that cast, which kind of flow with you, your
• 30:26
  flow, breaking is what's on point.
• 30:31
  This is what I wanted.
• 30:32
  And how it means this is like, um, the experience I do because I'm not, I'm
• 30:40
  driving how the car is first because I want to learn the car when I'm at the
• 30:46
  point where I say, okay, now I know when I change this, I will feel it.
• 30:52
  I'm not at the point now.
• 30:54
  So I'm learning the car to drive as it is.
• 30:57
  Someone did it like that in the set that I'm not the best maybe, but.
• 31:03
  I like, I mean, I try out different setup, qualifying setup, but for sure,
• 31:09
  which is like hardcore for people who are in for like that, I didn't dive
• 31:13
  into doing my own and I didn't dive into researching what's the thing.
• 31:21
  I just tuned a little bit on the, where I was thinking I
• 31:25
  can feel it, but normally not.
• 31:27
  Normally not.
• 31:28
  I take it, learn it, how it is.
• 31:30
  And then when I'm on a level to say, I need to change something there
• 31:33
  faster than me, I'm not competitive.
• 31:35
  And I don't know why it needs to be there.
• 31:38
  I, that's the problems you get when, when you are at a certain level.
• 31:46
  That's a good thing.
• 31:46
  Um, So when people ask me, what advice can you tell me, um, can you give me
• 31:52
  in some racing, I always tell them like, you can start and stick with the
• 31:56
  one car, that's the best thing to do, because you're going to be familiar with
• 32:00
  it, you're going to feel comfortable, confident in it, uh, and then you can,
• 32:05
  you know, Switch to other cars and jump around them and try something different.
• 32:10
  Uh, but when you're starting, it's a really good thing to stick with
• 32:13
  one car and just learning tracks.
• 32:18
  I, I have the experience and I want to share it.
• 32:22
  Same for sure.
• 32:23
  You want to drive the formula car once to see what it is when I flat
• 32:27
  it out or something like that.
• 32:31
  You can buy it, kind of, to have it in your assets of drivable cars, but it's
• 32:37
  not that you can go into a season when you're not mastered, like, with Formula 4.
• 32:43
  Yeah, if you're not fast in a slow car, then you cannot be fast in a fast car
• 32:49
  I know the the thing with sim racing is there are some people on the road.
• 32:54
  They can't drive the car So you're faster with just competing with them
• 32:59
  Yeah, so there's a mix it's working somehow, but but but if you think
• 33:04
  real The slower car you need to handle perfect to get the best time.
• 33:09
  If you think you're faster than Pascal, it's just because the car is much faster.
• 33:14
  It's not because you are going faster than everyone else.
• 33:18
  It's just like, you can take the corner with 250 instead of 120,
• 33:25
  that doesn't make you feel higher.
• 33:29
  Yeah, I agree.
• 33:30
  So I'm playing around with this a little bit, and I'm enjoying it a lot, and
• 33:35
  um, yeah, nothing can stop me, kind of.
• 33:40
  Absolutely agree.
• 33:41
  You have to go step by step from slower car to faster car, uh, because
• 33:47
  you actually building your base, uh, of your racing skills of your,
• 33:51
  uh, racing crafts and such stuff.
• 33:54
  Absolutely agree with you.
• 33:56
  Uh, in that, yeah, playing the devil, trying the hardcore class.
• 33:59
  Everyone can do.
• 34:00
  I had the, I was explaining someone on the expo today, like, How,
• 34:06
  how can you get into sim racing?
• 34:09
  How expensive is it?
• 34:11
  And, um, and I was explaining iRacing because I like it.
• 34:16
  And everyone might be shocked in the first moment doing the calculations.
• 34:22
  Like, okay, if I have all this stuff, oh, oh, oh, wow, wait.
• 34:25
  So much money, but no, you start with the Mazda doing, you buy one car because
• 34:30
  you decide, okay, I, I got the Mazda.
• 34:34
  It was interesting.
• 34:36
  It was maybe not my thing, but I want to try the Toyota or the
• 34:40
  Formula car, but you go slow in it.
• 34:43
  And this is so cool.
• 34:44
  Like week by week.
• 34:46
  Season by season at some point you say new car Because you want
• 34:50
  to to to find something new but but you don't put like 1, 000 on
• 34:57
  the table on day one or something.
• 34:59
  It's like your subscription It's your car and track if you want to try something
• 35:04
  special, but go just with the base content play play the stuff learn it and then
• 35:13
  Unsubscribe your your music streaming or whatever and buy
• 35:18
  one racetrack per month so easy
• 35:23
  Yeah, um right thing, uh about our racing because so many people also
• 35:28
  coming to my stream They tell him like wow racing is so expensive.
• 35:32
  And as you said we can start from like Free content, uh, right now we got a
• 35:37
  lot of free tracks, a lot of free cars.
• 35:40
  So when I started iRacing, uh, we had only MX5 for the, for the rookie license,
• 35:44
  right now we got, uh, also Formal V, so it can start from Formalist or you can start
• 35:49
  from GT cars and, uh, build your way here.
• 35:53
  Um, that's cool.
• 35:54
  You, that, you know, iRacing like, uh, becoming more flexible for everybody.
• 36:00
  And that's really, uh, Just realize it interesting mechanic when you then go
• 36:06
  a little bit higher you buy the toyota or But then you have the chance of like
• 36:16
  there are like two or three of the 13 weeks Are with free content and other is
• 36:23
  like You don't have spa as free content because it's like a car you need to buy
• 36:28
  But you have the three weeks or four weeks where you can play the new car
• 36:32
  with the free content Then you can go back to your mad stuff and free content
• 36:37
  And the next season you say okay.
• 36:39
  I tried the three weeks.
• 36:41
  I want to make more.
• 36:43
  I take the whole season I need like four tracks, but I can buy them like in week
• 36:48
  three Seven nine and thirteen so It's like, it's, uh, not at day one, as I said,
• 36:57
  so yeah, simracing can be expensive, but doesn't need to be by a good rig, but
• 37:06
  a very cheap one, the difference, so.
• 37:10
  Okay, so before we wrap up, uh, can you give advice from, uh, to new people in
• 37:16
  simracing, uh, So how can they start in simracing, like what equipment to get
• 37:23
  or like, uh, how to get into simracing?
• 37:28
  Um, yeah, my own experience, uh, several times in my life is if you
• 37:32
  Buy very cheap products you you can get in you can get a feeling of if you
• 37:40
  are interested in it when you when you then deep dive into the rabbit hole
• 37:46
  you realize oh wow there's so much more behind the The very cheapest entry level.
• 37:52
  And then you realize the benefits of it.
• 37:55
  I bought the cheapest meal I can get on the day I wanted to have it from the
• 38:01
  supermarket around the corner kind of.
• 38:04
  And then I realized, Oh, it's kind of plastic.
• 38:09
  It's not feeling great.
• 38:13
  So what's in it when I pay more and then I realize you get
• 38:17
  more forced feedback, etc, etc.
• 38:20
  So maybe it's interesting for sure this what I have is not really the end game.
• 38:25
  So let's try the next And then I really realize it's just like boosting you
• 38:31
  so much more when you have a good equipment But good equipment is entry
• 38:35
  level for everything I would say like 700 to 1, 500 ish, um, and, but then
• 38:46
  you can quickly get, go to 5, 6, 7, 000.
• 38:50
  And the good thing is when you crash a car in a sim you don't have to pay
• 38:54
  it, so your SimRig It's pretty quick paid off, so that's how I explain it.
• 39:04
  If I decided to buy a car go racing, I wouldn't have even the money
• 39:09
  for it compared to the Silvrig.
• 39:12
  So yeah, start with the money you have and enjoy and then grow from what you can do.
• 39:23
  Yeah, so basically the same as you said, uh, go step by step with cars and the same
• 39:28
  thing, go step by step with a sim rig.
• 39:31
  That's a great advice.
• 39:33
  That's my path, my, my guide.
• 39:36
  I can recommend, there are other people who are grinding
• 39:39
  hardcore, everything what they do.
• 39:41
  I'm not that kind of person as I said, but yeah, if you're, if you're grinding
• 39:47
  hardcore, I know if you're, when you are at some point in any, every spot,
• 39:51
  you have to keep it real for six, seven, 15 hours a day with everything you do.
• 39:57
  So yeah.
• 39:58
  It's always the same for everyone.
• 40:01
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• 40:02
  So thank you so much for taking your time.
• 40:04
  Uh, I know that you're tired because you had a really long
• 40:07
  day at Sim Racing Expo and you're going to have a tomorrow as well.
• 40:11
  Uh, want to remind everybody that we're going to have a stream tomorrow at 3.
• 40:17
  30 PM CST time.
• 40:19
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• 40:22
  Uh, Jan, thank you so much for, for taking your time.
• 40:25
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• 40:29
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• 40:32
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