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- 0:08Hello, everybody, and welcome back to this October 2026 edition of
- 0:14the Points of Care, the official podcast of the journal Diabetes,
- 0:19Obesity, and Cardiometabolic Care.
- 0:21This is the American Diabetes Association's journal for clinicians,
- 0:26educators, and advanced practice professionals.
- 0:29I'm your podcast co-host.
- 0:31Dr. Richard Bezer, and joining me as usual is my friend and colleague and co-host,
- 0:36Dr. Jane Roosh. Welcome, Jane.
- 0:39Glad to be here, Rich.
- 0:42Now, Jane, I I know you agree that it's been really exciting for us
- 0:47to see how diabetes obesity and cardiometabolic care has grown during this
- 0:52its inaugural year. The editorial board,
- 0:54I know, has been been receiving many really good quality submissions
- 0:58for potential publications. And not surprisingly,
- 1:02as a result, it's it's been getting more difficult for us to select from among them
- 1:07which ones that we want to highlight into interview.
- 1:11I could not agree more, Rich. This has been a very exciting journal to even read
- 1:17the abstracts of, with so many things that are specifically relevant
- 1:22to clinical practice and leveraging real world data in order
- 1:26to improve diabetes care.
- 1:30So it just
- 1:31with having said that, after considerable deliberation between Jane and I,
- 1:36it wasn't in a smoke-filled room,
- 1:37but it was definitely all over the internet and consultation with editorial board,
- 1:43we've come up with our final selections for interviews and other articles
- 1:48to highlight. But as I say, the choice was hard.
- 1:51And I I do urge our listeners to get a copy of the journal and read through it.
- 1:55Maybe you'll disagree with our selections and find there are other articles that
- 1:59are of particular interest to you.
- 2:00So
- 2:01You really can't tell until you look.
- 2:03So let's get started talking with the authors of the two key articles that we've
- 2:08selected for focus in today's podcast from this month's edition.
- 2:22So let's get started talking with the authors of the two key articles that we're
- 2:26going to focus on for this month's edition.
- 2:28First article, first interview,
- 2:31~ I want to introduce two of the authors.
- 2:34One is Dr. Clara Klein, and she's assistant professor of medicine
- 2:38at the University of North Carolina School of Medicine in Chapel Hill,
- 2:42North Carolina. And also Claire Abram.
- 2:45She's an attending physician at Maine Health Medical Center in Portland,
- 2:50Maine.
- 2:51So welcome to the two of you.
- 2:53Thanks so much for having us.
- 2:54Yes, it's a it's a pleasure. ~ the title of your article
- 2:58is Variability in Autoantibody Ordering Patterns suggest potential
- 3:04for diabetes misclassification.
- 3:07So, Claire, let's let's start with you.
- 3:10And you know, the the ability to check autoantibodies is the help with diabetes
- 3:14classification has been around for quite a long time.
- 3:18But as you note in the title of your paper,
- 3:19the variable pattern of ordering these tests has prompted you and your group
- 3:24to have a closer look. And specifically,
- 3:27what did you want to learn from this?
- 3:30Originally, we were reviewing charts for people who had islet autoantibodies ordered
- 3:36within our system to better identify those with new onset type 1 diabetes
- 3:42so that we could contact those individuals for potential recruitment into other
- 3:48research studies or clinical trials.
- 3:50~
- 3:52And that was how I was originally brought onto the project to do that manual chart
- 3:56review. But very quickly we noticed that there were a lot of discrepancies
- 4:00and how different providers across from our system were ordering those tests,
- 4:06meaning which ones they were ordering and how they were interpreting those labs,
- 4:10particularly amongst adult individuals ~
- 4:14who were being evaluated for diabetes.
- 4:16~
- 4:18And we became concerned that there were type 1 diabetes diagnoses that were being
- 4:22missed within our system. And that this care gap was leading
- 4:26to diabetes misclassification and also serious clinical implications.
- 4:31~ As we know, you know, type one and type two diabetes are treated very differently.
- 4:36They have different comorbidities that we screen for.
- 4:40And then with the advent of ~ disease modifying therapy like diplosimab.
- 4:45there could be patients who or individuals who are being missed ~
- 4:50who could qualify for such for such treatment without that correct diagnosis.
- 4:55Yeah, and one of the really interesting things is that antibodies are
- 5:00not ~ equal across the lifespan.
- 5:03~ and so can you tell us a little bit about what you learned?
- 5:07Yeah, so there are some clinical guidelines that help guide providers
- 5:12in terms of determining which antibodies may be most appropriate to order
- 5:16for each individual. But these are not very specific guidelines.
- 5:20They do not give a lot of information in terms of the rationale
- 5:26for which antibodies would be most helpful in each situation.
- 5:30And so it's not a one-size-fits-all type model that we have.
- 5:35And specifically outside of the endocrinology specialty,
- 5:39there are a lot of providers who are ordering these tests in a way that
- 5:43Yeah.
- 5:44we found could be higher yield or potentially provide more information regarding
- 5:50~ diabetes classification for that individual.
- 5:54Specifically, one of our findings that we found most interesting was.
- 5:58How many people are ordering insulin autoantibodies or IAA for adults,
- 6:05which is not likely at all to be positive amongst the adult population.
- 6:11And is it was one of the more shocking findings we found how many providers were
- 6:16only ordering in ~ an insulin antibody and interpreting that negative result
- 6:22as evidence that an individual did not have type one diabetes.
- 6:26We did see several instances where this resulted in in poor outcomes
- 6:31for the patient, meaning you know,
- 6:33eventually going into DKA or continued weight loss
- 6:36and hyperglycemia until eventually being referred to endocrinology.
- 6:41Now from these findings, Claire,
- 6:44what did you conclude? What w what is the punchline here?
- 6:48~ basically, we found that across the board,
- 6:52eyelet autoantibody testing is much more uniform within the pediatric population.
- 6:57We think that this is for several reasons,
- 6:59meaning that most children with diabetes are being treated
- 7:02by an endocrinologist with a diet association with a diabetes care team.
- 7:06~ but adults, on the other hand,
- 7:09are often being diagnosed and cared for by their primary care providers
- 7:14and are often requiring or
- 7:16Or needing something out of the ordinary with their diabetes diagnosis or
- 7:22a type 1 diabetes diagnosis before their referral to
- 7:26~ adult endocrinology providers.
- 7:29And so we found that compared to children,
- 7:32adults are are not having the same autoantibodies ordered from provider
- 7:39to provider. It's much more likely to only have one or
- 7:42two islet autoantibodies tested.
- 7:45~ and then sometimes we are finding that that interpretation is not is not accurate.
- 7:50So therefore, we feel that adults are at most risk for misclassification
- 7:55of their diabetes. And that also was highlighted by the information that
- 8:01we got from the group of adults that had their diabetes reclassified
- 8:05to type one diabetes following this auto antibody testing.
- 8:10Okay, you know, maybe I'll throw this open for discussion and and Clara
- 8:14and you can weigh in also. Where do we go from here?
- 8:17You know, I I've always scratched my head with about the antibodies.
- 8:21What do I order? Who do I order?
- 8:23You know, working in a diabetes center,
- 8:25it's a little clearer, but but for the primary care people out there,
- 8:30how do we how do we fix this?
- 8:33Yeah, thanks. thanks for that question.
- 8:35I think this is a it's a real challenge.
- 8:39~ and I think one of the conversations that Claire and I have ~ over
- 8:43and over again is that, you know,
- 8:45we, you know, we live, breathe,
- 8:48think about diabetes a hundred percent of the time.
- 8:51This is our life. ~ and it's very challenging in the primary care world where you're
- 8:56supposed to be experts in every disease state to know.
- 9:00exactly what to do for every situation.
- 9:03And so I think it's very important to be very clear that this is nobody's fault.
- 9:08It's very challenging to diagnose ~ type 1 diabetes in adults.
- 9:13And the literature has shown that over and over again,
- 9:16so many people are being misclassified and it takes a long time for people
- 9:21to get to the right diagnosis.
- 9:23And so I don't think there's gonna be a simple solution.
- 9:25I think we have to develop new tools to help
- 9:29Primary care providers, you know,
- 9:33determine who should be ~ tested for islet autoantibodies
- 9:38and develop good ways for them ~ to identify which tests to order.
- 9:44And I think that's really the future of the research that we'd like to do here
- 9:49~ in my group is to identify potentially machine learning algorithms,
- 9:54electronic health record-based tools.
- 9:57That can really guide primary care doctors and endocrinologists,
- 10:01because we miss this as well. You know,
- 10:03who who might be? Maybe maybe there's a better way to identify the best people
- 10:08who should get eyelid autoantibody testing.
- 10:10~ and I'll just add in that that I think some people would argue that with people
- 10:15with a new diagnosis of diabetes,
- 10:16everyone should get autoantibody testing.
- 10:18~ and I I would argue, and and I think this is a conversation,
- 10:22a longer conversation that many people can have.
- 10:24I would probably argue that that's dangerous too,
- 10:27because there are minimally positive antibodies.
- 10:30It's hard to interpret. ~ I think there will be a lot of false false positives.
- 10:35And so then it could be not only ~ cost prohibitive,
- 10:40but also ~ challenging to really interpret who truly has type one diabetes.
- 10:43So I think we need to come up with new methods to help people to figure
- 10:47out the best people to get autoantibody testing and then
- 10:50~ potentially referrals over to endocrinos.
- 10:52So one thing I was really struck by in your be very beautiful infographic
- 10:58is that is that 81% were using insulin,
- 11:0289% had a previous diabetes, ~ misdiagnosis at at in type two,
- 11:08they were, they were obese. There weren't a lot of clinical clues.
- 11:13And so I I I just want to encourage all of our listeners to read this paper
- 11:19and look at it and think about it.
- 11:22too, you know, a strategy. And and when you're talking about minimally positive
- 11:29antibodies, GAD antibodies, so many people will have minimally positive
- 11:34GAD antibodies. And maybe consider strategies to deal with that
- 11:40in your machine learning. It's it's really,
- 11:43really an interesting paper. Sorry,
- 11:46Rich, to interrupt.
- 11:47No, that's that's fine. And you know,
- 11:48I I I've got enough gray hair to remember back in the days when we
- 11:52we were testing antibodies because we couldn't,
- 11:55and ~ we would wing it, you know,
- 11:57we just guess what the diagnosis was,
- 12:00but we'd followed people, and if the sugars looked like they needed insulin
- 12:03and they're looking like a type one,
- 12:05we'd act accordingly. But I think now the importance is that there's more things
- 12:10we can do earlier on, and that's why this has become increasingly important
- 12:15to clarify.
- 12:16The the only last thing that I would add is I think the,
- 12:18you know, the circling back to why we did this in the first place
- 12:21is it's so important to identify nowadays people early in their natural history
- 12:27of their type one diabetes diagnosis,
- 12:29so that as more disease modifying therapies are available,
- 12:32we can offer them and there are more clinical trials that are available that
- 12:35we can offer them to people to potentially change the course of their disease.
- 12:40And so
- 12:41it is becoming increasingly important to get the diagnosis right early.
- 12:45And so figuring out, you know,
- 12:46tools to help people identify those people is really,
- 12:49I think, a a critical area of research.
- 12:51So ~ I think exciting and hopefully ~ more to come.
- 12:55And that's a good last word. Thank you,
- 12:57Clara and Claire, for joining us today for this podcast.
- 13:02Thank guys so much. Thank you.
- 13:11Well, everybody, it is with great pleasure that I introduce the author
- 13:15of our second article, Dr. Miranda Zudiga Kennedy from Washington
- 13:22University. ~ This article is entitled The Determinants of Cognitive Change Over
- 13:28One Year in Older Adults with Type 1 Diabetes.
- 13:32So, Miranda, are there any other researchers on your team that you would like
- 13:37to highlight at the beginning of this podcast?
- 13:40Yeah, absolutely. The first would be my mentor,
- 13:44Dr. Naomi Chater. She has been just instrumental in this work,
- 13:50and I've learned so much from her and hope to continue to learn from
- 13:54her throughout my career. And we also had four at the time second-year medical
- 14:00students on this paper who really put in a lot of great work.
- 14:04And it was really fun seeing their research skills kind of grow.
- 14:09And of course, our co-authors at our collaborating institutions.
- 14:13Yeah, and and as we do with these articles,
- 14:16we want to get a little bit about the perspective of what gaps you were hoping
- 14:22to address with this project.
- 14:25Basically, over the years, advances in diabetes management,
- 14:28continuous glucose monitors, automated insulin delivery have really meant that
- 14:33people with type 1 diabetes are living much longer,
- 14:35as we know. As a result, we have a rapidly growing population of older adults with
- 14:41type 1. And these older adults are known to be at increased risk
- 14:46for cognitive impairment and dementia.
- 14:48And the changes that we typically see are in the domains of psychomotor speed,
- 14:53information processing, and more of those executive functions.
- 14:56And we've learned a lot about what risk factors contribute to this increased risk
- 15:03for cognitive decline from landmark studies like the DCCT edict trial that kind
- 15:08of span over those decades, or those cross-sectional studies that kind
- 15:12of provide that snapshot in time.
- 15:15What we don't know is how this type of change happens within
- 15:18the timeframe that clinicians see older adults,
- 15:20like during annual wellness visits.
- 15:22So our study was really motivated by this practical clinical question:
- 15:27if ADA guidelines ~ recommend annual cognitive screening beginning at age 65,
- 15:33can brief screening tools like the recommended Montreal Cognitive Assessment
- 15:37or the MOCA actually detect this meaningful cognitive change over one year?
- 15:42And which patients are most likely to show that change on these brief measures.
- 15:47We also wanted to identify modifiable risk factors that might help clinicians
- 15:52determine who needs closer cognitive monitoring.
- 15:54So we examined demographic factors,
- 15:56vascular risk factors, diabetes complications,
- 16:00glycemic measures, and severe hypoglycemia.
- 16:02So really the gap wasn't whether cognition matters in older adults with type
- 16:061 diabetes. We know that it does.
- 16:09the gap was whether we can detect that meaningful change during the time frame
- 16:13of routine annual care.
- 16:16That sounds very important, Miranda.
- 16:17~ perhaps you could just summarize what your findings are.
- 16:21Our our listeners can get the details and by reading the article.
- 16:25I will do my best to be brief.
- 16:27~ So this was a secondary analysis of the AT1D trial.
- 16:32So that was a multi-center randomized crossover trial.
- 16:35We had 74 adults aged 65 to 85 complete the MOCA,
- 16:40but we know that the MOCA may not be as sensitive to the changes that
- 16:44we might see in diabetes, like that processing speed that I mentioned earlier.
- 16:48So we included the waste for processing speed index as well.
- 16:52Then we had them complete the same measures 12 months later
- 16:55and examine their changes in scores.
- 16:57And we wanted to look at clinically meaningful change,
- 16:59which we defined as two or more points on the MOCA over the year.
- 17:03We also looked at how these risk factors established by studies like EDIC
- 17:07are related to changes in the shorter interval.
- 17:09So we found that greater decline on the MOCA was associated with neuropathy,
- 17:14hypertension, and being partnered.
- 17:17And greater decline in the processing speed was associated with hypertension
- 17:21and severe hypoglycemia that occurred during the study,
- 17:24but not with a history of severe hypoglycemia overall.
- 17:28So, regarding clinically meaningful change,
- 17:31we found that at baseline, a third of people scored in the mild cognitive impairment
- 17:35range that cut off of less than 26 points.
- 17:39But there was a lot of individual variation,
- 17:41with some people improving, some declining,
- 17:44and then some remaining stable over the year.
- 17:47So that was essentially what what we found overall.
- 17:52And so what did you take away from this?
- 17:55What are your conclusions from this study?
- 17:59I think we have a few points that we can expand on for sure.
- 18:02So the first is that this is evidence that meaningful changes
- 18:07in cognition can really be detected by these ADA recommended,
- 18:11very brief measures that can be implemented in various care settings,
- 18:15which is really important. And this work also identified several established
- 18:20and emerging risk factors, including hypertension,
- 18:22that ~ recent severe hypoglycemia.
- 18:25And neuropathy that's linked with this meaningful change in scores over this
- 18:29one-year interval. And it suggests that people with these risk factors warrant
- 18:33pretty close cognitive monitoring.
- 18:35And interestingly, recent severe hypoglycemia,
- 18:38so the episodes that happened during that study interval,
- 18:41predicted a decline in processing speed,
- 18:44but not a general history of severe hypoglycemic episodes.
- 18:48So that tells us that these events may have a more immediate effect on cognition.
- 18:55I would also highlight that there is a fluctuation in the nature
- 19:01of cognition in people with type one,
- 19:03which is exactly why this annual screening kind of matters.
- 19:06One of the most interesting findings was that 45% of the participants
- 19:11who scored in that mild cognitive impairment range at baseline no longer
- 19:15met that threshold one year later.
- 19:17And then at the same time, some participants moved from normal to impaired.
- 19:22And other participants remain relatively stable where they were at baseline.
- 19:26So that's consistent with the broader MCI literature that over a year or two,
- 19:30some people tend to progress towards dementia,
- 19:33some remain relatively stable,
- 19:35and others revert to this normal cognition,
- 19:39quote unquote. So a single screening is really just a snapshot,
- 19:43and repeated screening gives us a picture of someone's cognitive trajectory.
- 19:48So if I'm in my clinic with my I I tend to accumulate a lot of 80 and
- 19:5590 year olds living with type one,
- 19:57and I am trying to figure out how to help them through a day with,
- 20:03you know, mild cognitive decline or moderate cognitive decline.
- 20:07So what you know, and and I'm trying to figure out triggers,
- 20:11etc. How might I help them?
- 20:16You know, as not not related to this study,
- 20:18but in the large you know, trying to look at the implications of which domains they
- 20:24have deficits in and how I may be able to help them function in their
- 20:29day to day life.
- 20:30What I would probably say is that we have a specific recommendation
- 20:35is to assess cognition after maybe a recent episode of severe hypoglycemia,
- 20:40right? In our data, those effects didn't really show up on the Mocha.
- 20:44So if you have someone in your clinic who's had a recent severe episode
- 20:48of hypoglycemia, then maybe something like the MOCA won't be able
- 20:53to detect those changes, and we need something more.
- 20:58Guided towards the processing speed index.
- 21:00~ And as we know, diabetes management is complex,
- 21:05it's cognitively demanding, and impairments in cognition can really have
- 21:10a significant impact on people's ability to manage their condition.
- 21:13So I think that ~ updating screenings
- 21:20as necessary, sort of regularly checking in if any of these new risk factors
- 21:25are emerging.
- 21:27Getting a sense of people have been experiencing some difficulties.
- 21:30~ We know that initiating an AIDS system or a continuous glucose monitoring system
- 21:37could also really be helpful in ~ kind of easing the burden
- 21:41of diabetes management in people with this mild cognitive impairment
- 21:45or cognitive decline. ~ Kind of tailoring those typical compensatory strategies that
- 21:52we suggest to people with cognitive decline to
- 21:55Diabetes management. So my favorite one is that we can't use a pillbox for insulin,
- 22:01right?
- 22:01So
- 22:02What could be helpful there is maybe a refrigerator magnet of someone
- 22:06who is on multiple daily injections.
- 22:08You know, let's flip it every time that we use it.
- 22:10So we're remembering that we took our dose for the day if we're taking more
- 22:14of that long-acting insulin. But I think another important part too is that
- 22:20we don't really know the direction,
- 22:23right? So
- 22:25Impaired cognition can impact diabetes management,
- 22:28but also what we're seeing is that these acute glycemic events also impact
- 22:33our cognition. So learning to optimize both and understand that these changes
- 22:39do happen and kind of assess when they are happening or if these
- 22:43new risk factors pop up could also be really important.
- 22:47And I hope that answered your question.
- 22:49Well what I think is that everybody needs to read this article.
- 22:53And if my patients recently had a severe ~ hypoglycemic event,
- 23:00I may want to inquire further about how they're doing with their decision making.
- 23:05Rich, your final thoughts?
- 23:08Yeah, I I guess I wonder how this population might differ from
- 23:13the general population. ~ you know,
- 23:16because there's a lot of ~ general decline in cognition in in older people as well.
- 23:24Yeah, absolutely. So as we know,
- 23:27you know, older adults are a general risk for cognitive decline.
- 23:30~ what really stands out, and I can't remember the exact study,
- 23:36but there was a recent ~ paper from the Alzheimer's Association,
- 23:41all of us data that showed that individuals with type one are at higher risk
- 23:47for particularly Alzheimer's type dementia and vascular dementia.
- 23:52So vascular dementia really makes sense when we're thinking of all
- 23:55of these added cardiovascular,
- 23:58microvascular risk factors in type one ~ on top of the impact that we
- 24:05see in the general population with polypharmacy,
- 24:08multimorbid multimorbidity. ~ So it's really just compounding a bunch
- 24:13of factors on top of already existing factors.
- 24:15So I think that's kind of what warrants that close cognitive monitoring.
- 24:19And if we can
- 24:21kind of zero in on people who have the risk factors that maybe we found
- 24:25in our study and can hopefully replicate,
- 24:27~ that it kind of guides a more targeted treatment.
- 24:31And then those people can maybe be referred for
- 24:34a more comprehensive neuropsychological assessment.
- 24:37Well, thank you so much, Miranda,
- 24:40for this beautiful work that you're doing and best to luck in your career that
- 24:46you're just launching here. Stay in diabetes research,
- 24:51and I would welcome our viewers to read this paper and to learn more about this
- 24:57important topic.
- 24:58Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure talking to you both.
- 25:08Well, Rich, I'm so excited to tell you about a few other articles.
- 25:12And
- 25:12And
- 25:12the first one I would like to tell you about is entitled Physical Activity Patterns
- 25:17in Adults: Taking GLP1 Receptor Agonists,
- 25:21an all of us cross-sectional study,
- 25:24by Jones et al. The objective of this article was to
- 25:29see if in real-world data they could.
- 25:34Analyze whether people using GLP1s are being physically active.
- 25:38And what they did was they leveraged the All of Us research program from 2018
- 25:45to 2022. And what they found was in adults greater than 18 years taking these
- 25:52medications, they were able to look at a set of
- 25:57all who had validated actigraphy of one sort or another,
- 26:02be it watch, etc.
- 26:04And what they were able to do was to look at total daily was moderate
- 26:09to vigorous physical activity,
- 26:10step counts, and sedentary time,
- 26:13all things that specifically change outcomes for people with diabetes.
- 26:19Interestingly, in this cohort,
- 26:22they found 298 participants that they were able to analyze.
- 26:27And what they found in those people was that they were
- 26:32About 200 minutes a day, but only 24 of those minutes,
- 26:36not the 30 that we would like to see,
- 26:39were moderate to vigorous physical activity.
- 26:41And over half of them did not meet the physical activity guidelines for Americans.
- 26:46Their step counts were about 5,900.
- 26:50Their sedentary time was 948 minutes.
- 26:55I checked to see. That's 15 hours of sedentary time.
- 26:59And
- 27:01In people who were older, women,
- 27:04and people with diabetes, the physical activity was even less.
- 27:09So the conclusions that they made were that GLP1s are phenomenal
- 27:14for improving weight and diabetes status,
- 27:18but we really still need to be focusing on the basics to increase physical activity
- 27:24to meet the guidelines and maintain cardiovascular health.
- 27:28Love this. Please go read it.
- 27:32Yeah, it sounds like a fascinating article.
- 27:34And and you know, the challenges of lifestyle ~ changes that go along with
- 27:39GLP one use are are things I think that people didn't really appreciate until we've
- 27:44started using them in a more widespread manner.
- 27:47~ so I think this is an interesting,
- 27:49interesting article. My article,
- 27:52next article to talk about.
- 27:54School meal participation, overall dietary intake and pre-diabetes prevalence among
- 28:00U.S. adolescents. Insight from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey
- 28:062017 through 23 by Alexandra ~ Dis Carpentry
- 28:12~ et al. I hope I didn't mispronounce the name.
- 28:16I'm sorry if I did. The author's premise:
- 28:19while diabetes
- 28:21Pre-diabetes, rather, is an emerging public health concern among U.S.
- 28:24adolescents. Data on contributory dietary factors on a national level is limited.
- 28:31And the authors specifically focus on overall dietary intake and then
- 28:35the role of school meal participation,
- 28:38which provides a substantial portion of daily calories and
- 28:41has not been comprehensively evaluated.
- 28:44Therefore, they undertook this study to examine cross-sectional associations.
- 28:49Between schoolmeal participation,
- 28:51overall dietary intake, and prediabetes,
- 28:54as defined by an A1, C and or fasting glucose values within the prediabetes range,
- 29:00assessing differences by obesity status.
- 29:03They use the National Health and Nutritional Examination Survey and Haynes data from
- 29:102017 through 2020 and 2021 through 23,
- 29:14focusing on a nationally representative samples.
- 29:19Of US adolescents ages 12 to 18 with complete fasting,
- 29:24glucose, and A1C data. And the number was 802.
- 29:27They looked at associations between school breakfast and/or lunch participation,
- 29:32dietary intake consisting of food groups and nutrients,
- 29:36et cetera, and pre-diabetes. Details of the methodology can be found
- 29:40in the paper itself.
- 29:42Now the results showed that a prevalence of prediabetes was 33.8%,
- 29:47prevalence of obesity 20.96%.
- 29:51Interestingly, school breakfast participation at least once a week
- 29:55was associated with a higher prediabetes prevalence.
- 29:59However, school lunch participation was not.
- 30:01They also found that higher vitamin E and B6 intake was linked to lower prediabetes.
- 30:08Higher fruit intake
- 30:11Was associated with a lower prevalence of prediabetes amongst adolescents with
- 30:16obesity. So the authors concluded,
- 30:20first off, they acknowledge limitations of self-reported observational study data
- 30:25such as this, establishing associations,
- 30:27but not causality. They also recognized that information on
- 30:32all dietary variables that might impact their findings was not available.
- 30:37Nevertheless, they concluded in particular.
- 30:41School breakfast participation and specific dietary components were associated with
- 30:46pre-diabetes risk in the U.S. adolescence.
- 30:50They acknowledge that confirmation is needed,
- 30:52but suggest, and this is this is I think a key point,
- 30:56that the nutritional quality of school breakfasts may represent
- 31:00an important intervention target.
- 31:02So I think this is an important point for future study and intervention.
- 31:09Thank you, Rich. Another article,
- 31:11not to miss, is entitled Comparative Effectiveness
- 31:16of Continuous Glucose Monitoring versus Blood Glucose Monitoring
- 31:21in Pregnancy with Diabetes. This is a systematic review and meta-analysis with trial
- 31:27sequential analysis. This ~ this paper was led by Ben Nuru et al.
- 31:34and
- 31:35In their overall data synthesis,
- 31:37they were able to identify 17 randomized clinical trials
- 31:42and noted that macrosomia and LGA were reduced
- 31:47in individuals using CGM, but the strength of evidence was not high
- 31:53for either of these findings. Small for gestational
- 31:58age was also elevated with CGM,
- 32:01but here again
- 32:03significantly and yet somehow the strength of the finding was moderate.
- 32:10The trial sequential analysis found
- 32:14no neonate size in outcome met the required information size
- 32:21to draw firm conclusions for this important question.
- 32:25Their conclusion was that the CGM benefits for mothers and neonates with
- 32:31Pre-existing diabetes and gestational diabetes varied for outcomes,
- 32:36but really gave us the idea that you were going to reduce large size
- 32:43at birth. But probably most importantly,
- 32:46it pointed out that we really need to be diving into this question more thoroughly
- 32:53in either prospective research or in very careful literature
- 33:00searches.
- 33:01So that we can change these outcomes.
- 33:04My next article is Implementation of Diabetes Care Coordination
- 33:09in Schools Across Pediatric Centers in the T1D Exchange Quality Improvement
- 33:14Collaborative by Christine March et al.
- 33:16Now, the authors sought to characterize both barriers
- 33:21and facilitators to implementing evidence-based care coordination
- 33:26for type 1 diabetes between schools with grades K through 12 and diabetes centers
- 33:32in the United States.
- 33:33With a recognition that such coordination should be optimized.
- 33:37They described their work as being a mixed method study with diabetes centers
- 33:41in the T1D Exchange Quality Improvement Collaborative,
- 33:45who deliver pediatric care. A representative from each center participated
- 33:50in a survey and an optional semi-structured interview.
- 33:54Questions focused on processes for communication,
- 33:58education, and clinical care related to in-school diabetes support.
- 34:04They also probed deeper into barriers and solutions.
- 34:07Surveys were analyzed descriptively.
- 34:10Interviews were transcribed and coded by two reviewers using a thematic analysis.
- 34:17Now the authors received return surveys from 38 predominantly academic pediatric
- 34:23centers representing different U.S.
- 34:26regions and patient volumes. Analysis showed that most respondents,
- 34:3058%,
- 34:32We're somewhat satisfied with current processes for communicating with schools
- 34:36and providing medical orders, but less than 25% were extremely satisfied.
- 34:42So clearly there's room for improvement here.
- 34:44Certain problematic barriers were identified,
- 34:47and those included insufficient clinician time,
- 34:5174%, school call volume, 78%,
- 34:55and inefficient communication methods,
- 34:5871%.
- 35:01Less than 5% of centers bill for care coordination activities.
- 35:04Other qualitative themes were also assessed and provide further context
- 35:10to barriers and challenges. And they have listed in discussed in the article itself,
- 35:14so do have a look. Desired solutions focused on technology or intermediary roles,
- 35:21such as nurse navigators, for coordination.
- 35:23And the respondents viewed school-partnered interventions favorably.
- 35:28But scalability and sustainability were concerned.
- 35:31Concerns. So the authors concluded that diabetes care
- 35:38coordination between K-12 schools and diabetes centers
- 35:43is variably implemented due to challenges within both institutions,
- 35:48both sides of the fence, so to speak.
- 35:51Further research is, in fact, needed to test implementation strategies.
- 35:56which can overcome barriers and augment evidence-based care.
- 36:00So I think this article serves as a a challenge to everybody to look at some
- 36:05of the issues and see if they can improve the systems and maybe then take another
- 36:09look at it sometime down the road.
- 36:12Next article comes from my home base,
- 36:16the VA, and it is entitled Virtual Diabetes Optimization Program
- 36:23for Veterans with Uncontrolled Diabetes.
- 36:25The first author is Dr.
- 36:28Adel. But what I wanted to start with before I tell you this is a little
- 36:35bit of history that comes into this article,
- 36:37which is the VA.
- 36:40Championed a remote diabetes program for people who hadn't been seen in clinic.
- 36:47And what they found was that seeing these people remotely
- 36:52and virtually had impressive outcomes.
- 36:55So Dr. Mendez and his group are responding currently to the fact that there
- 37:01are 25% of veterans that live with diabetes.
- 37:0578% of veterans have a BMI greater than 25.
- 37:10Despite access to lifestyle interventions that are available in
- 37:16the VA and specialty endocrine clinics.
- 37:19So many veterans are living with uncontrolled diabetes and obesity
- 37:25and are not achieving their desired outcomes.
- 37:29So this intervention was designed for people
- 37:35not meeting goals despite access to medical care.
- 37:40So this VDOP used a multidisciplinary team,
- 37:45which included a registered dietitian,
- 37:48an occupational therapist, a clinical pharmacist,
- 37:51who were all delivering this virtual care under the auspices of a diabetologist.
- 37:58The outcomes were compared to veterans who did not,
- 38:03who declined to be part of this intervention and were seen in their primary care.
- 38:10The primary outcomes were hemoglobin A1C and body weight at 6 and 12 months.
- 38:15Now, this is a small study, which included 39 veterans in the VDOP,
- 38:22the virtual program, and 62 that were in the standard of care.
- 38:26Through this intervention,
- 38:29very intriguingly, the VDOP participants had a greater reduction
- 38:36in A1C from 9.8% to 7.1%.
- 38:40Compared to from 10.6% to 8.2%.
- 38:44And importantly, they also had a greater weight loss,
- 38:50~ 6.8% compared to 0.7%.
- 38:55These improvements were sustained at 12 months,
- 38:59and they remained significant after adjustment
- 39:04for baseline medications, including GLP1 agonists.
- 39:10So they concluded that there is promise to this virtual intervention
- 39:15for both glycemic control and weight loss,
- 39:19and hope to leverage the VA system and the VA Cooperative Studies program
- 39:25in order to test this in a larger population.
- 39:28Now, to me, this is very important because we all know that patients will come
- 39:35to our clinic and not meet their goals.
- 39:39And they are working very hard.
- 39:40So we need to be really industrious in novel strategies
- 39:46to meet them where they are and come up with an intervention that will help them
- 39:50to meet their goals. So read this article.
- 39:54Thank you, Jane. The next article that I have is titled Culinary Medicine
- 40:01and Medical Nutrition Therapy Interventions to Improve Glycemic Control
- 40:05in Type 2 Diabetes, A Pragmatic Trial During the COVID Pandemic
- 40:10by Carolyn Smith Morris et al.
- 40:13And being one who likes to cook,
- 40:15I was very intrigued by this particular article.
- 40:19And I have some thoughts about it,
- 40:21which I'll express at the end.
- 40:23In this study, the authors sought to conduct a pragmatic randomized control trial
- 40:28comparing the effectiveness of six registered dietitian-led medical nutrition
- 40:33therapy or MNT sessions to six virtual hands-on culinary medicines
- 40:39CM sessions for improving glycemic control among people with uncontrolled diabetes
- 40:46in a safety net healthcare system.
- 40:49Adults 18 years of age or greater with type 2 diabetes and an A1C 7%
- 40:55or greater were eligible, and they assessed within and between group changes
- 40:59in the A1C and Mediterranean diet score using difference
- 41:05in differences analysis adjusted for the number of sessions completed.
- 41:09The results showed 79 participants were randomized to either culinary medicine
- 41:15classes, 36, or health system.
- 41:18medical nutrition therapy visits,
- 41:2043. Baseline characteristics were similar between groups.
- 41:25Now you can find details of the study design ~ and data in the article,
- 41:30but some of the highlights showed that at six months there were clinically
- 41:34meaningful improvements in A1C in the medical nutrition therapy group,
- 41:38but not in the culinary medicine group.
- 41:41However, the authors found no significant within or between group differences in the
- 41:48Mediterranean diet score. ~ They do acknowledge that the study
- 41:53was underpowered due to the impact of the COVID-19 epidemic
- 41:57on recruitment engagement, with sessions being virtual and in group settings.
- 42:02Now they concluded: despite the impact of COVID-19,
- 42:06participants in the diverse format MNT,
- 42:09Medical Nutrition Therapy Intervention,
- 42:11had clinically meaningful improvements in A1C at six months.
- 42:16Unmet recruitment and retention goals contributed to underpowered results.
- 42:20The authors comment that these results highlight the importance
- 42:24of nutrition interventions that create supportive environments across multi-level
- 42:29systems, such as individual, family,
- 42:32community, etc., to improve the dietary health.
- 42:36In this case, COVID was a barrier,
- 42:40but there are likely to be other barriers that would need to
- 42:43be addressed regardless of the intervention.
- 42:46~ and and they did encourage additional randomized control trials
- 42:51to evaluate the impact of culinary medicine on glycemic control
- 42:55and dietary measures. And you know,
- 42:58my my comment about this is that intuitively one would think that imparting
- 43:03knowledge, the medical nutrition therapy,
- 43:06while important, can be carried forward with culinary medicine training,
- 43:11actually teaching people how to prepare food and
- 43:15cook food in an appropriate way.
- 43:18And just because this study, which may have been interfered with by COVID and so on,
- 43:24~ was not showing positive results,
- 43:27~ I would think that further studies,
- 43:31~ maybe overcoming some of those barriers that focus on really hands-on training,
- 43:36~ would be valuable. And I would urge people to continue trying ~ to cook
- 43:42up some better results, pun intended.
- 43:45Well, that brings us to about ~ the end of our time for this edition
- 43:50of the Points of Care podcast.
- 43:52But I again I do want to emphasize that this edition of diabetes,
- 43:57obesity, and cardiometabolic care really has a lot of other interesting articles
- 44:02that we don't have time to highlight,
- 44:04but I I certainly would encourage you all to have a good look at.
- 44:07Jane, I noted some other important topics in there.
- 44:12just to highlight diabetes screening,
- 44:14exercise and diabetes, diabetes distress,
- 44:18care delivery programs, eating behaviors,
- 44:21foot infections, hypoglycemia prevention.
- 44:24what are your thoughts about the the the array of things in this edition?
- 44:30Just say that each each with each edition,
- 44:34we're getting more and more practical insights into how to optimize care
- 44:39for people living with and at risk for diabetes.
- 44:41This this is really evolving into a sort of
- 44:46a practical guidebook for people caring for those individuals.
- 44:52I I agree. And and as I said a moment ago with regard to the
- 44:56the nutrition ~ comment, there's a lot of data out there showing
- 45:02the the academic parts of things,
- 45:04which are of course the backbone and important part of of what we're doing.
- 45:08But the how-to I think is is very important.
- 45:11That's where this journal is, I think has a strength.
- 45:13~ so there are many other interesting topics,
- 45:17and I urge you all to have a
- 45:18A good look at this full edition,
- 45:20and you'll probably find certainly some of the articles,
- 45:23if not all of them, to be quite interesting.
- 45:25So that brings us to the end of this edition of Points of Care,
- 45:30the podcast of the journal Diabetes,
- 45:33Obesity, and Cardiometabolic Care.
- 45:35And just a reminder, the full contents of this journal,
- 45:38Diabetes, Obesity, and Cardiometabolic Care,
- 45:41can be found at Diabetes Journals,
- 45:44one word, diabetesjournals.org.
- 45:47Forward slash D O C ~ care C A R E with a link in the episode notes.
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- 46:12I'm Dr. Richard Beezer.
- 46:15On behalf of my co-host, Dr. Jane Roosh,
- 46:18thank you for joining us.