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Drive Time: Good-bye...for now · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you know? Jaguars? Jaguars? Did you know? Jaguars?
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Speaker 1: Drive Time? Brian Sexton, Jaron Oshan, Ashland Sullivan. Jaguars Drive
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Speaker 1: Time starts right Morrow. Good morning, Happy Tuesday in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: Time for Jacks Drive Time in a very busy week
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Speaker 1: this week, leading to a really busy week next week
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Speaker 1: as the Jags get set for the two thousand and
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Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft. Everybody that's seventeen. Wow, I'm still saying
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Speaker 1: seventeen in a table. Uh, two thousand eighteen NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Drive Time. Ashland back at
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Speaker 1: the desk. How are you this morning? I'm good. I
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Speaker 1: like it here it was zones recommendation. Who here? So
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Speaker 1: you're comfortable. I'm fantastic. What a day yesterday? Huh? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was something. It really was and I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I don't know if you could recapture that. It
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Speaker 1: was a unique moment. In all years that I've been
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Speaker 1: around guys retiring in the NFL, I've never seen that
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Speaker 1: anything like that. You know. It's funny. I in in
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Speaker 1: trying to plan what I was going to cover and
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Speaker 1: what I was gonna write out the press conference I
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Speaker 1: actually anticipated and it thought coming in I would probably
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Speaker 1: write Telvin off as one of my stories and as
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Speaker 1: even the main story, because I anticipated him talking a
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Speaker 1: lot about how much Paul meant to him, and I
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Speaker 1: think it's one of the unique stories. It's and I
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Speaker 1: was glad I played out that way, cause I think
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Speaker 1: fans for the first time maybe truly realized what they
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Speaker 1: meant to each other. But I didn't quite expect that
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Speaker 1: level of emotion. I can't say that I expected it
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Speaker 1: to come out that raw and that reel, and it
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Speaker 1: was a great moment. I'm not surprised by it, because
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Speaker 1: I know how close they were, and anybody who has
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Speaker 1: seen them knows that. But it was certainly something that
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Speaker 1: anybody who was there and watched it was couldn't have
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Speaker 1: not been moved by the big things. That is big
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Speaker 1: thing number one, Paulpas's retirement after seven seasons here in Jackson. However,
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Speaker 1: Telvin Smith absolutely stole the show. Here's what he had
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Speaker 1: to say. A promise, I promise, I love you, I
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Speaker 1: appreciate you, and forever you have a place with me
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Speaker 1: as my brother. Can I introduce you out the paulp
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Speaker 1: was list so a couple of things go through your mind.
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Speaker 1: The first is the game on TV is not the
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Speaker 1: most personal game, right. I mean, guys were the helmets.
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Speaker 1: They look like okay, roll butts. You know at times
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Speaker 1: like like it's a great, big video game. You can't
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Speaker 1: you can't get to know a guy with a helmet on.
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Speaker 1: And I think people lose track sometimes. I mean you
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Speaker 1: can just see it on Twitter when players are are
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Speaker 1: are gutted for dropping a pass or making a mistake
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Speaker 1: or you just it's depersonalizing, right is that even a word?
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Speaker 1: The humanizing? And then yesterday it was the Turbo Boost.
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Speaker 1: I thought that Telvin Smith show the human side of
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Speaker 1: the game in a way that most people don't ever
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Speaker 1: see perfectly. And it was funny after the speech. He
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Speaker 1: he's standing right there and he's like, man, he had
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Speaker 1: this big note It's like I didn't even read any
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Speaker 1: of my notes. I didn't even open the notebook. He
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Speaker 1: had this whole speech planned out. But it was almost
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Speaker 1: better that way that it was just him truly, just
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Speaker 1: speaking from his heart. Well, and the fact that we're
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Speaker 1: talking about Paul puzz Lesni's retirement ceremony, We've been talking
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Speaker 1: about Telvin for the first couple of minutes off the
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Speaker 1: top of the show goes to tell you how impactful
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Speaker 1: it was. Do you have someone say on this, because
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Speaker 1: I think, um, that's the reason I wrote tell in
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Speaker 1: the way I did, And I thought about, like, well,
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Speaker 1: here I am right Telvin Smith, and it's Paul's retirement ceremony.
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Speaker 1: But in what Telvin said and in the way he
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Speaker 1: said it, it told Paul's story. It told why he
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Speaker 1: was so important to this franchise, the work ethic, the
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Speaker 1: way he dedicated himself to next season because of Paul
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Speaker 1: and the legacy. Um, yes, Telvin stole the show in
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Speaker 1: a sense, but I think Paul would tell you that
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Speaker 1: was the perfect way for him too, because, if you
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Speaker 1: think about it, a teammate showed such love for the
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Speaker 1: man that he told his story. I think that's how
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Speaker 1: Paul would have liked his story told anyway. So I
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Speaker 1: thought it was well, And Paul stood there and said,
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Speaker 1: I don't have that gift, right right. He let he
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Speaker 1: was asked a question about leadership. He talked about leading
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Speaker 1: by example, because clearly I don't have Telvin's particular gift,
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Speaker 1: the ability to stand there and to say it, here's
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Speaker 1: the thing that the word that that I left with
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Speaker 1: um from Paul was example. From the moment that he
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Speaker 1: showed up in two thousand and eleven until his final
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Speaker 1: moment as part of the team, he set the example.
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack was sitting there, Telvin Smith was sitting there, Uh,
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson was sitting in the back of the room,
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Speaker 1: young players seeing what a professional football player is supposed
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Speaker 1: to be. And I glanced occasionally. Tom Coughlin was sitting
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Speaker 1: in the back of the room, which I thought was
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Speaker 1: a tremendous sign of respect. Right, I mean Tom is
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Speaker 1: usually sitting in one A. Right, that's where the top
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Speaker 1: guy is. Tom, Doug, Dave all sat at the back
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Speaker 1: of the room because this was Paul's day. But I
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Speaker 1: would glance from time to time and just see the
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Speaker 1: beaming smile on Doug or on Tom Dave's face. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is the kind of guy you want to set
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Speaker 1: the example for everyone in your locker room when they're
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Speaker 1: all thinking. One thought, give me, does he have to leave? Right?
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Speaker 1: Does he have to leave? Here's another thing. As he
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Speaker 1: stood there at the podium, I thought he'll be coaching.
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Speaker 1: People have asked me, do you think paulpas Les me
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Speaker 1: he will be a coach. I thought, well, he's made
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Speaker 1: almost fifty million dollars, he's got a young family, his
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Speaker 1: whole life has been in this game. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't the attraction for current players to become coaches
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Speaker 1: wouldn't seem to be as strong, right because the money
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Speaker 1: is so strong. And yet as I stood there and
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Speaker 1: and watched him at the podium, I thought, yeah, he
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Speaker 1: looks like a coach, sounds like a coach, acts like
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Speaker 1: a coach. And then he didn't deny it when somebody said,
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Speaker 1: what do you think about coaching? He'll have a tough time.
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Speaker 1: Staniel as had one thought. I said, boy, I can
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Speaker 1: see why this guy's retiring, because sure has let himself go.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he would obviously play if he wanted to. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think, as we all heard, and as
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Speaker 1: I've written a couple of times, he left because he
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Speaker 1: didn't think he could live up to his own standard.
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Speaker 1: To me, that feels like he could probably live up
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Speaker 1: to of it. They would have loved to have had
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Speaker 1: him back, but you know, he didn't want to look
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Speaker 1: on film and see himself not what he thought he
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Speaker 1: should be. So again, to the end, living up to
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Speaker 1: his own stand I um. I told Ashlyn as we
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Speaker 1: were walking down the hallway yesterday, I really truly believe
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Speaker 1: we've seen a bunch of these around here lately, you know, Rachine,
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Speaker 1: Mathis and Maurice Jones, Drew and Fred. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you'll ever see one like that again, No, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I mean the combination of personalities, the human side of it,
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Speaker 1: right where you have an emotional guy like Telvin and
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Speaker 1: you have the stoic business like pas Lesnie, who even
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Speaker 1: you know, he was dabbing his eyes as he was
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Speaker 1: sitting there in the front road too. Wasn't easy for
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Speaker 1: him at all. And the one story that that neither
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Speaker 1: one of them elaborated on, which really goes to the
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Speaker 1: heart of their relationship, I thought, was when Telvin's brother
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Speaker 1: was shot and Paul didn't come with the team right
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Speaker 1: away to Detroit for the game. He stayed and went
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Speaker 1: to Valdosta for the funeral. And then after that game,
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Speaker 1: the emotion and if you're in the locker room or not,
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Speaker 1: but Telvin had a tough time composing himself after the game.
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Speaker 1: Paul was consoling him, and what I remember is in
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Speaker 1: that whole time, Paul speaking for televin after the game.
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Speaker 1: I think I think Telvin spoke after that game, but
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Speaker 1: Paul standing and speaking sort of for Telvin, and much
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Speaker 1: like yesterday, they were so close and so as one
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Speaker 1: that I think it was just a natural thing. You
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Speaker 1: have to worry. I think Paul had to worry at
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Speaker 1: the time. Should I speak for Talvin? They just sort
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Speaker 1: of new and you know, use the word brother all
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Speaker 1: the time. They used it yesterday, and I think they
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Speaker 1: will be. We could just keep going and going and
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Speaker 1: going on the topic. One you know, one more obviously
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Speaker 1: you talk about and this just made the rounds. By
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Speaker 1: the way, Uh, you and I were watching on NFL
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Speaker 1: Network earlier is they were playing it and discussing it.
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Speaker 1: It's been all through social media. Um was the black
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Speaker 1: and white component of it because both men mentioned it. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Telvin said, you know a guy who didn't go through
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Speaker 1: the struggle with me, who loved the game as much
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Speaker 1: as I did. And Paul mentioned the fact that he
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Speaker 1: was a white kid from Pennsylvania, couldn't have had a
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Speaker 1: different upbringing background and that together, you know, the teamwork,
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Speaker 1: you know the locker room. It just it said all
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Speaker 1: the differences aside, and that's where it didn't matter what
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Speaker 1: color you were, where you came from, or where you
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Speaker 1: went to school, or any of that stuff. I thought
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Speaker 1: it was a powerful moment. It's one that I think
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Speaker 1: as people look back as listening in Telvin's relationship will
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Speaker 1: have great value. Oh yeah, you talked about the human
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Speaker 1: side of it. What is more human than that? And
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Speaker 1: there would be moments when they played the thing I'll
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Speaker 1: remember about both beyond all this, there were moments when
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Speaker 1: they played where one of them would make a tackle
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Speaker 1: and they would you know, the old thing. They come
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Speaker 1: running from five yards away and they would do the
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Speaker 1: jump up and hit, bump whatever. And I always think
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Speaker 1: that's Telvin's influence on Paul, meaning made him younger. He
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Speaker 1: was already at ten eleven year guy. But that they
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Speaker 1: sort of came together and became one when nothing in
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Speaker 1: their background, nothing suggestion, you know what, you would suggest
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Speaker 1: they could, but their lockers were next to every two
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Speaker 1: or three years, and they became, uh again, sort of
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Speaker 1: playing is one and you could tell they of playing
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Speaker 1: together and they took joy in each other's success. The
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Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, it was a great one. More
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Speaker 1: quick thought just before we go, and that is the
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Speaker 1: as he stood there and mentioned Kelvin and Paul called
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Speaker 1: out Miles Jack, who I think we all think it's
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Speaker 1: going to be a terrific, great, maybe even All Pro
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Speaker 1: football player. I couldn't help but think this this must
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Speaker 1: be the golden age of Jaguars linebackers. They have paulpas
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Speaker 1: Lesnie introduced by Kelvin Smith who is All Pro, and
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Speaker 1: then talking about their teammate Miles Jack and the two
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Speaker 1: years they came together. What an experience for the three
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Speaker 1: of them to be in the same meeting room and
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Speaker 1: for the coaches who coached them to be in that
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Speaker 1: rarefied linebacker here. I think it wasn't said yesterday that
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Speaker 1: Myles has talked about the ease that Paul made that transition,
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Speaker 1: the humbleness knowing this kid was gonna take his job
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Speaker 1: at some point. Uh. You hear that story all the time,
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Speaker 1: but this was a real thing for those two quick
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Speaker 1: here with Big Thing number two. Today is a pretty
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Speaker 1: big day. Players reporting back for offseason workouts were used
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Speaker 1: the past three months at being totally quiet in these ways,
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Speaker 1: and yesterday there was comotion and it was a nice sound. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna get a lot busier. And I'm told the
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Speaker 1: food gets a little bit better around here when right
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Speaker 1: playing right to your soft spot, pal, good day, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: real good. Look the smile on his There's nothing John
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Speaker 1: likes better than somebody preparing him a great meal. And
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Speaker 1: not asking for his credit card when it's done. Bonus,
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Speaker 1: I like turkey. Yeah. But importantly there was an energy
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Speaker 1: in the building. Guys came back with the expectation. You know,
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Speaker 1: a year ago it felt like, what's this gonna be? Right?
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Speaker 1: I mean, who's the head coach? Right? That was a
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Speaker 1: popular question. Is Tom really running this thing through Doug? Well? Right,
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Speaker 1: we found that out. So now a year later, it's
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Speaker 1: Doug's program. Uh. Tom sets the expectations quietly from wherever
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Speaker 1: he's at. Quietly. He's probably not the right verb, adjective, adverb,
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Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Powerfully, powerfully probably better way to
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Speaker 1: go it. But he doesn't have to say a lot, right,
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Speaker 1: his presence just does that. So we know all these
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Speaker 1: things now. And now you come in and you know
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Speaker 1: what the offseason program as you know what this team
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Speaker 1: is in the expectation level being higher, it's a good thing. Well,
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Speaker 1: and and I think there's reason to believe that there
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Speaker 1: will be strides. And you know, I didn't interview a
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago with Miles Jack and here's the guy
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Speaker 1: who had his first year as a starter last year,
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Speaker 1: first year is as a real full time player. The
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Speaker 1: jump that he can make from year two to year three,
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Speaker 1: and offensively, the jump that you can make in a
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Speaker 1: second year of a coordinator, second year of Blake Bortles
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Speaker 1: as a coordinator, second year in this system, for the
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Speaker 1: entire team as good as they were last year. There's
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Speaker 1: no guarantees, but I think there's an excitement. I would
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Speaker 1: assume there is an excitement on the part of the
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Speaker 1: players of Okay, we were successful in this first year,
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Speaker 1: getting to know this thing, this whole system, how good
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Speaker 1: queen be in the second year. It doesn't come automatically.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the first thing Doug will say today
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Speaker 1: when he talks to the media. But with the work
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Speaker 1: that they put in, there is reason to believe, eve
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Speaker 1: that a year two programs should be better than a
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Speaker 1: year one program. You know, here's something they stuck with
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Speaker 1: me is that in years past, guys would come in,
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Speaker 1: get the physical done, you know, get the first day done,
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Speaker 1: and get out, move on right. They're used to their
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Speaker 1: time being completely their own. Yesterday they were players lingering,
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Speaker 1: you know, guys who were hanging out, you know, eating upstairs,
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Speaker 1: walking the hallways. He got the sense that they were
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Speaker 1: glad to be back and glad to be around one
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Speaker 1: another again. Which look, obviously we saw with the Pole
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Speaker 1: and and Telvin thing how much guys enjoy that locker
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Speaker 1: room and being together. For whatever it's worth. That, um,
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Speaker 1: that sense of can't wait to get started was stronger
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Speaker 1: yesterday and probably will be today. Then I've seen it
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Speaker 1: in a long time around here. Very smart move to
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Speaker 1: have the piz les anything on the day they came
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Speaker 1: back to allow players to see that. By the way,
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Speaker 1: absolutely yeah, I mean how many guys were in there,
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Speaker 1: he'd say, yeah, a couple of dozen. Well, he's one
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Speaker 1: of the guys you knew everyone would show up for.
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Speaker 1: So he made a lot of sense. Alright, Big thing
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Speaker 1: number three, Big thing number three. Now we're moving on
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Speaker 1: to Thursday, another huge day state of the franchise. You know,
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Speaker 1: from unveiling you name it. It's going to be a
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Speaker 1: very big day. Maybe even a possible schedule release. We'll
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Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about on Thursday. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: the the hands on the schedule release thing, or they're
16:12
Speaker 1: just hitting you over the head NFL Network if you
16:14
Speaker 1: go back historically and look, h the schedule is out
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Speaker 1: the week before the draft. Regularly they don't want to
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Speaker 1: take away from the draft next week. They don't want
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Speaker 1: to wait till afterwards. They want to get the schedule out.
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Speaker 1: It'll be out Thursday, you know, maybe Wednesday. But the
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Speaker 1: NFL network is now bang bang bang coming soon on
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Speaker 1: our air. It's you know it's coming this week. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: they just said on Good Morning Football. Maybe this week,
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Speaker 1: maybe next When they start pulling out the promos on that,
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Speaker 1: just buckle up. And if you go back six, seven,
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Speaker 1: eight years, it's it's traditionally been either the Wednesday or
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Speaker 1: Thursday before the draft. It's an awful scenario for me.
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Speaker 1: I've gotta work way too much. That day. We told
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Speaker 1: you last week the off season ended last week. It means,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, we thought you'd be happy to be back.
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Speaker 1: But sitting next to Ashlyn usday morning, in all seriousness, uh,
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Speaker 1: that day being the day that fans will get to
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Speaker 1: see the new uniforms, get to see the news. The
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Speaker 1: state of the franchise this year I think has a
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Speaker 1: chance to be as much fun for fans as it
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Speaker 1: has been. And I expect that Mark Lamping when he
17:24
Speaker 1: discusses the state of the franchise in the business side,
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Speaker 1: will uh like what he has to say. In terms
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Speaker 1: of the direction of the franchise and if people are
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Speaker 1: excited about, you know, an update on whatever they're gonna
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Speaker 1: do in lo j and whatever they want to do
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Speaker 1: with the shipyards project and the uniform thing is hanging there.
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Speaker 1: People have been anxious to see it. Um, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I saw a couple of things yesterday they're working on.
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Speaker 1: It's cool. Wait till you get a chance to really
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Speaker 1: see what everyone in this building and people. Someone said
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Speaker 1: to me the other night, I was god to speaking
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Speaker 1: engage it. They said, so watch all the secret what
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Speaker 1: I mean, I want to find out what the fans like. Well,
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Speaker 1: they do. There's a whole process to this, but the
17:59
Speaker 1: anticipation for this is so strong. And the Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: just teasing a little bit here and there too, obviously,
18:05
Speaker 1: you know, for marketing purposes, build to that moment where
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Speaker 1: they unveil them and take advantage of the energy. But
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Speaker 1: the energy is out there. People are really curious about
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Speaker 1: what these are going to look like. They're gonna like him.
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Speaker 1: They should be exciting. It's a big deal. It is
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20:46
Speaker 1: You know, we jokingly called this now the Sullivan Ocean
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Speaker 1: Sexton Zone last week. Um, whether we do that or
20:54
Speaker 1: not depends on the look on John's face. More importantly, though,
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Speaker 1: we just like the music. We just decided to keep
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Speaker 1: it as sort of a theme to Ah. The Police
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Speaker 1: were a popular eighties man with some reggae based in
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Speaker 1: some punk background in the early eighties, staying Stewart Copeland,
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Speaker 1: thank you for that. I wasn't aware. We thought now
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Speaker 1: would be a good time to introduce you to the
21:15
Speaker 1: dynamic that goes on here between John and the younger
21:20
Speaker 1: set on our set. It's a lot of hatred and
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Speaker 1: all right, let her let him have it, lady, all right,
21:29
Speaker 1: let's go with Pete from Queensbury, New York. No question, John,
21:33
Speaker 1: just here to say Talvin's speech for puzz Lesnie was emotional, amazing.
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Speaker 1: Words fail me. Well. I got that a lot last night,
21:41
Speaker 1: and going through the ozone inbox fans, I was glad
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Speaker 1: we streamed. Obviously we stream everything now, but it was
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Speaker 1: a cool moment that really showed, uh, the ability of
21:54
Speaker 1: these guys to connect not only to each other, to
21:56
Speaker 1: the fans, Um, I thought it was cool when Ashland
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Speaker 1: said a minute ago that Telvin didn't even really read
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Speaker 1: his speech, He just let it go from the heart.
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Speaker 1: And it really felt from reading the emails last night,
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Speaker 1: that fans got that they attached to it. And sometimes
22:11
Speaker 1: it's cool for the fans to see you know, um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's why I like this guy, That's why I'm attached
22:18
Speaker 1: to this team. And that was one of those moments yesterday. Well,
22:20
Speaker 1: it didn't take long to understand how important Telvin is
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Speaker 1: to his teammates. When Calais Campbell got here and Calais
22:27
Speaker 1: gravitated towards Telvin. That told you everything you needed to know.
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Speaker 1: And I anticipated, I think, as you guys probably did too,
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Speaker 1: that it was going to be good, that it was
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Speaker 1: going to be worth watching. I didn't know it would
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Speaker 1: be something that we'd be talking about. We'll probably be
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Speaker 1: talking about this for years. It will be something we
22:43
Speaker 1: remember the day that Telvin stole the show when it
22:46
Speaker 1: was cool when he you know, he started crying before
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Speaker 1: the end of the first sentence, and you can tell
22:52
Speaker 1: I was just sort of like, well, that's how it's
22:53
Speaker 1: gonna be. I don't care. So before I went down
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Speaker 1: I ran down to Shods office and Paul was there
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Speaker 1: with with Talvin and Rachine, and they were just kind
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Speaker 1: of going over what they were going to talk about,
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Speaker 1: and I wanted to try to get on the same page.
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Speaker 1: And Telvin said, I hope I can at least get
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Speaker 1: through my first sentence without crying. I mean, he knew
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Speaker 1: it was kind of everyone knew was coming. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was cool. You knew when he walked in with
23:14
Speaker 1: a suit and that notebook he meant business. He was
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Speaker 1: taking this really seriously. Agreed. Agreed, all right, I was
23:23
Speaker 1: one number two Chris from Texas. Contrary to what everyone
23:26
Speaker 1: seems to think, this team does have one gapping hole
23:29
Speaker 1: backup running back I like Corey Grant and t J.
23:32
Speaker 1: Yelden is serviceable and a third down role. But this
23:35
Speaker 1: team is designed to be a power running team. If
23:37
Speaker 1: Leonard Fete gets hurt, they no longer have a running
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Speaker 1: back who can fill that role, forcing them to throw
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Speaker 1: the ball much more than they would want. Where's Crispin.
23:45
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this for weeks from good Night Texas.
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Speaker 1: That's yeah, he's there. We've been talking for weeks about
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Speaker 1: the fact that you have to have a backup running
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Speaker 1: back the style of Leonard for Nett, because Leonard's running style,
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Speaker 1: at least my belief is, you won't get sixteen games
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Speaker 1: a year of a guy like that. His style is
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Speaker 1: so forceful, so brutal, so violent that he's going to
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Speaker 1: get nicked up, and you're going to play that way.
24:08
Speaker 1: So you need a second back? Now, is you going
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Speaker 1: to be letter for? No? Leonard was the fourth overall
24:12
Speaker 1: picked for a reason. But there are some big backs
24:14
Speaker 1: in this draft, third, fourth, fifth round. That's not a surprise. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: that's a priority on Draft D I would think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I think that that will be As you said,
24:23
Speaker 1: the thing I wonder go into draft and I said
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Speaker 1: this a lot. I wonder how high they'll go with
24:27
Speaker 1: it if if somebody falls him in the first or
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Speaker 1: second round. I can't see it in the first. I
24:33
Speaker 1: do wonder about the second if if they're sitting in
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Speaker 1: that draft room and they see somebody special sitting there
24:39
Speaker 1: as a running back the way this team plays, um,
24:43
Speaker 1: I can't predict that they would do because I think
24:45
Speaker 1: there are a couple of their needs that they would
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Speaker 1: go with. But it wouldn't shock you if all of
24:49
Speaker 1: a sudden they had two backs where you were sitting
24:53
Speaker 1: there on Day two of the draft and they did it,
24:56
Speaker 1: and they're talking about it, and and they're laying out
24:57
Speaker 1: their reasons of Hey, we're a running team, this is
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Speaker 1: what we do. It would be logical if they did.
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Speaker 1: I think it'll be third to six round. But round
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Speaker 1: two you just wonder. Plus, let's remember t J. Yeldon
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Speaker 1: has one more year on his rookie deal. So and
25:10
Speaker 1: with the salt recap situation this team has in the
25:12
Speaker 1: priority they're going to have to place on defensive players. Sure,
25:15
Speaker 1: you need a young back to groom for t J.
25:17
Speaker 1: Yelden's eventual replacement. Absolutely, they know it's a whole they'll
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Speaker 1: fix it. Agreed, Agreed. Great from section one to two
25:25
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville, I really think the Jaguars should pursue, does Bryant.
25:28
Speaker 1: I mean, if we ever have a team that needs
25:30
Speaker 1: a legit number one receiver threat, it's us. He could
25:33
Speaker 1: be that missing piece. Lure him in with the talk
25:36
Speaker 1: of the rings. Yeah, I just don't see this on Brian,
25:40
Speaker 1: And uh, you know I don't necessarily and that is
25:44
Speaker 1: no thanks. I think if, if, if you can get
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Speaker 1: a guy like des Brian for a couple million dollars. Yeah, great, Um,
25:50
Speaker 1: I think he would fit in terms of the swagger
25:52
Speaker 1: and all that. I just don't think the premise of
25:55
Speaker 1: the question is his team needs a number one receiver.
25:58
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's that anymore. War So never
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Speaker 1: say he's not right. So that's where I think the
26:04
Speaker 1: argument falls short. Then the production in the last couple
26:08
Speaker 1: of years doesn't match up to the name. Um, again,
26:12
Speaker 1: if you could get it for a couple million, I
26:14
Speaker 1: think so. But I can't imagine this scenario. And I
26:16
Speaker 1: can't imagine this has what is legs for this franchise?
26:20
Speaker 1: What is what is your buddy? Pete Priscoe always say
26:22
Speaker 1: old slow, make too much dough, gotta go right, I
26:25
Speaker 1: mean to me, and I laugh whenever he says that.
26:28
Speaker 1: But this is I mean. Des Briant is older, he's
26:31
Speaker 1: slower than he was, he makes too much money, He's
26:32
Speaker 1: gonna go, I mean, And so Dallas said goodbye. And
26:35
Speaker 1: I just don't see where he fits in this locker room. Well,
26:37
Speaker 1: the Cowboys brought in Alan Hearns, who's now one of
26:41
Speaker 1: their top one or two receivers, and let Dez Bryant go.
26:45
Speaker 1: Now there was money factor in there. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: Des was sixteen point five million on their salary. If
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Speaker 1: you believe that the Cowboys believe they're better off with
26:53
Speaker 1: Hearns and why don't you want this Briant, then it
26:56
Speaker 1: stands to reason the other way coming back would make
26:58
Speaker 1: sense for the Jazz. I don't think he's gonn When
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Speaker 1: the Jaguards play Dez Bryant and the Cowboys in London
27:03
Speaker 1: in two thousand and fourteen, they couldn't stop him. I mean,
27:06
Speaker 1: he was a one man wrecking crew anything. Anytime he
27:09
Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands, he was getting the
27:10
Speaker 1: extra yards, the first down, the touchdown. It's been since
27:14
Speaker 1: then that he's been that kind of player. Maybe fifteen,
27:16
Speaker 1: but sixteen and seventeen were not good seasons for him.
27:19
Speaker 1: I just don't see why. I mean, I get it,
27:21
Speaker 1: people want that star performer. They think, oh, Des Briant.
27:24
Speaker 1: They don't see the last two years. They just see
27:26
Speaker 1: the last time they saw him. Good. Great, Even because
27:29
Speaker 1: he was no thanks, well, he could certainly fit into
27:32
Speaker 1: this top five. I just don't think he would change
27:34
Speaker 1: the dynamics of your receiving corps. No thanks, no thanks, Well,
27:40
Speaker 1: they're gonna listen to Brian. Yes, eventually at my house,
27:46
Speaker 1: they're gonna start listening to me because they aren't here.
27:50
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't want older players past their
27:52
Speaker 1: prime who cost me a lot of money. It's a
27:55
Speaker 1: game of replacement, not maintenance. I want young talent, not
27:58
Speaker 1: old talent, especially when you're can out next year with
28:00
Speaker 1: the defense capits you can't. Yea even I'm good. Alright,
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Speaker 1: we're good, John, because we're waiting for me. Said you
28:13
Speaker 1: wrap it up, alright, folks, I hope you have a
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Speaker 1: great Tuesday for John Osian, Ashlands Olive and Joe Fortune
28:18
Speaker 1: out of Max Huckman after Kavanaugh. That'll do it for
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Speaker 1: Jack's drivetime. See you next week as we get ready
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Speaker 1: for the NFL Draft. Ye