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SLAUGHTER TO PREVAIL: Alex Terrible + Jack on Bare-Knuckle Fighting, Life in USA & Metal Controversy · The Downbeat

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My guests on the podcast this week are Jack Simmons and Alex
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the Terrible of Slaughter to Prevail.
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Now, there's a lot of stuff online.
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Slaughter to prevail. Alex.
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Jack, hello. Hello.
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Thanks for coming on a show day. Thanks for having us.
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You are very welcome. I like.
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Usually when I ask for a singer on a show day they say no Why?
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Because whatever the voice, you tell me.
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Yeah, I mean, it's a good point actually, because you need to
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keep your mouth shut. You know, you're saving your
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energy, first of all. And second of all, it's all
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about muscles, right? So you scream like for one hour
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at least every fucking day, or fucking 3 three days on the
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fucking road and then have a one day off and then fucking three
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days on the road again. And a two hour podcast.
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Two hours, we can do one, it's fine.
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Here we go. Wait, I thought it's gonna be
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fucking 4040 minutes, but is Anyway, it's all good.
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It's a. Good she got.
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We should probably talk about. So a lot of a lot of fucking
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vocalists has a fucking pussy ass Wick fucking.
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I'm just kidding, straight. Away.
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Yeah, yeah. Haven't changed, but it's just.
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All about muscles, right? Kind of muscles inside and you
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just need to warm it up and you just need to to like keep that
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energy, keep that like power for the for the shows.
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If you if you want to put a great show, you know.
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Do you ever have to do like a vocal rest?
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Yeah, I mean, I tried, never worse.
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But you know, I want to speak with people and all this shit.
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But I think it's a good point because you.
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You. It's a fucking goat.
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Yeah, exactly. We were just incarcerated.
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We just wrote it actually from this fucking prison.
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Yeah, yeah, we just got went to a haunted prison, that's gonna
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be sure. My first question, how was is it
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incarceration? Incarceration.
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Inc Yeah, incarceration. Tattoo and music.
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Festival, I didn't even know. I didn't even know I had tattoos
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there mate. We played before.
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Did you get 1? Nah, Nah.
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Tired but? Were they mad?
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I didn't even see, I don't see where were the tattoos?
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I don't know. That's what I'm saying.
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I don't know, no offense to anyone, surely tattoo in their.
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Room. It's in the Shawshank.
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Prison. Yeah.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and it's even got a golden
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little Wayne tattoo toilet seat there, mate.
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Yeah, wow. The whole room.
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Small room. Yeah, like in prison room.
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Yeah. Wait, your green room is a
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prison room? No, no.
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But we did it like what, two years ago, Yeah.
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And they did this, like little tour for us, mate.
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And they were like, do not close the door, you can go in there,
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but we don't have keys anymore, you know what I mean?
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And I was like, I need to take something home.
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So I found in a little nail and I just took it out, brought it
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with me, mate. And I'll be honest, since then
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my shit's been going downhill. It's getting.
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Filmed. Yeah, I left it back in.
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England, you got like a haunted, haunted nail.
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Yeah, we bought some haunted shit the other day.
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Madison's nodding her head because she's from Cleveland,
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which is incarceration adjacent. We bought like haunted tapestry.
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Some like we went to some crazy weird shop and they sold these
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like tapestries on the wall and they said, well, we took this
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out of this. This woman died.
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And then she said that our house was haunted, put them on our
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wall, but nothing's happened. Yeah, but maybe it's good vibes.
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Pretty good vibes to be fair. Yeah, like.
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You believe in the bus? What is this your podcast?
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That's a. Great.
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That's a great. I just ask.
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You name your top 3 ghosts. Top three?
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I don't know. Top 3 ghosts, Casper.
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What, like you can't? If you can't name 3 ghosts mate,
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then I don't know what you're playing at.
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Have you got three top 3 ghosts laugh a lot.
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Do I? Yeah.
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I can't think of a ghost off the top of my head.
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Casper was. I don't think this is a good.
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That's a good question. I wish I'd wrote that question
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down. I believe that energy goes
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somewhere when you die, but I don't know, into like a human
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being. Yeah, I mean, I believe
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literally everything could exist.
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Literally everything. Literally.
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Ghost and you're a guy. If you really believe in that
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shit, aliens. So it could exist.
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Aliens by aliens. I believe after you die, you go
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to something you believe in. In you know, no matter what it
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is, exactly what do you believe in?
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It's fucking deep straight away. Yeah, it's it's very deep, but.
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What if I believe in hell though?
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Am I going to go to hell? What is hell?
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Exactly. Getting tattooed.
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What is life? What is life you cannot like?
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Explain the life right because it's just very individual.
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Yeah, I don't even my own personal hell because that would
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be a festival. Getting tattooed at a festival
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play in a minute and then hearing it with a rusty nail.
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Mine would be doing like a 2 hour set like the long sets.
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How long is your long set? One hour?
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Oh, 70 minutes, maybe 7. Perfect.
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Yeah, but sometimes if we need it to be longer, we have a
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really nice blade intro, you know?
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Blade Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but we do it for the whole
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10 minutes. So backstage 10 minutes.
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Well, that's how long it. Is at stage.
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Time, right? We're backstage, we hear it
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alright, that's a 10 minute countdown.
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But the problem is that we didn't realise till kind of
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recently is fans are into it for the first couple minutes and
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then it kind of just repeats, don't it?
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Yes. And then in the end they're
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like, for fuck's sake. It's not an OPEF song, it's a
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fucking. Yeah, 10 minute race we're
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getting, we're getting pumped up in it, you know.
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Stage time's 945 does blade start at 8:35?
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Sorry, 935 Or does blade start at 9:45 when you?
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Just put it fudge by me. That's fucking incredible.
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To be honest, I don't think we're selling our band right
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now, no. Our management might be which
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is. Being real.
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Yeah, I appreciate that because I think the only time I've ever
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had to play 90 minutes in my life was like my old death metal
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band got asked to do India. So we'd split up and this guy in
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India was just like, come and play a show, like at a festival.
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And he was like, I need you to play 90 minutes.
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And we've got like we had like 60 minutes of music.
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So we did the whole of Be a Man from Mulan, You know that song
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from the from Disney's Mulan? We played that at 9:45, which is
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about 8 minutes long. And then I did a drum solo for
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10 minutes and then like, I think we just fucked around at
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the end. But no one, I'm a full believer.
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No one wants 90 minutes off of death metal for me. 35 minutes
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is just perfect. To listen or to play.
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To play, I mean, and to listen to me person is to listen
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because I'm not a big fan of going to shows and check the
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bands out. When I go and see the bands, I
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like 20 minutes maximum 30 minutes, and then I'm fucking
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done. Yeah, it's fucking loud.
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Mate, I even love live shows, but you know the Sabbath show, I
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just saw the yeah mate, that was perfect. 10 minutes set. 10
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minutes, I get to see Slayer for like 20 minutes, a little
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Sabbath cover, spin around, then it's tall for like 20 minutes,
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spin around. That's great.
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Was the thing I saw about the stage time, the change overs
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being 7 minutes, was that real? Yeah, yeah.
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Did they manage to pull that off?
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I think so. Yeah.
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That's fucking. They got the spinning stage,
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aren't they? Oh really?
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Yeah, it's spinning like the sick new world.
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OK, so the little thing they have this like little banner
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just comes up. Spin around.
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Easy. That's fucking and then they
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just played AI of Aussie in movies like little cameos like
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Pulp Fiction cameo with Aussie standing there.
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You know AI and different era of Aussie, not just him now you
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know I. Wonder who got paid for?
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That How much did you hear? How much they made?
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A. 190 million for charity for. Charity not for 100.
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And 90 million mate, 2 billion. I think.
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I think someone kicked off though.
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Someone didn't want to play because they weren't getting
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paid. I can't remember who it was.
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Someone will figure that out for.
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Me. I bet you know who it is, you
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just don't want to say it mate. Madison, if you can Google that
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while we're talking, I'd love that.
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There's speculation nothing has been confirmed, but Sharon
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Osbourne removed them for wanting to profit off of it and
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the speculation is saying either Mötley Crüe or KISS.
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Oh, did you manage to get? I saw a flyer that was going
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around for like world's biggest war of death.
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Yeah. Did you get it?
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Was that yesterday? How do they judge that?
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He's not? He's not sure, and you are.
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Look. We just made it up to be honest,
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To be completely honest. It's just for hype, first of
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all, And second of all, we just love Wall of Death.
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Yeah. And for I I really believe that
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the wall of deaths in health vest was fucking huge.
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Like Mainstage? It was in shape, yeah.
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It was huge. Literally.
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Maybe we brought the not the biggest one, but one of the
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biggest one. I did see that, you know what I
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mean. Pretty fucking crazy.
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And it was, it was long and it was like just people kept
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running. It's hard to even capture on
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video because obviously everyone meets in the middle, but you
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still got people still running and in, you know?
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This is what I want to see on each festival, to be honest, you
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know? So I really want to bring it
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like like with the hype and shit.
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So people pump pumped for this shit, you know?
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How do you pick what song to do the War of Death in?
12:02
It's Bratwa and it's just about intro.
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Like ladies and gentlemen, you listen to Oh, it's the terminal.
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It just goes hard, like through the breakdown and just perfect.
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Because it's an intro we get we can just pause like the set.
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But I right, let's see how long it takes.
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Yeah, so we sometimes just a Mac.
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Laptop for someone just goes. Yeah, a little monitor so.
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Problem with inconsideration was it was backed.
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It was too busy. It's too busy and people just
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cannot like make this space. We got to all of that.
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So on the on the right side, on on the left side and the in the
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middle, it was a barrier for a sound guy.
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Yeah, up the middle. Yeah, exactly.
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So it was packed for us, which is good, you know, because every
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time we play in festival, no matter where when like 4:00 PM,
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three PM, 2:00 PM, it's always backed and people want to like
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see us, which is fucking incredible and insane.
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But on the on the on the one side, on the other side, it was
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so fucking packed. We couldn't do all of this
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probably, you know. They had like a barrier.
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So you know the two stages are like that, right?
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And you got the front of house barrier there, but you also had
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barriers on the other side. So people pushing back, but they
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just I mean, you're just crushing people.
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So when everyone went. In post that you're worried
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about the safety of. Oh, Joseph said.
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Yeah, Mangan is. When we spoke to him he said he
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was in it and people were screaming but like for their
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lives, not like. In agony, like, yeah, they're
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like in pain. Someone fell over.
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It was almost like a fucking Travis Scott and he said like
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someone fell over. Everyone's kind of getting
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crushed, so you can't really see it on the video because they hit
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into each other and then one side just stronger than the
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other, so just pushed it over. That's.
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Ducky, it wasn't a Travis Scott. That's another one.
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I get in trouble. I get in trouble for defending
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you, and I got in trouble for defending Travis Scott when that
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horrible thing happened. When those people die, it's.
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Actually fucking horrifying. I mean, from my perspective, you
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know, when I'm on stage, it looks amazing, cool.
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And I always asking like, how you doing?
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Like everything is fine. Every everybody is feeling all
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right. And there's like, yeah, yeah.
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And then Hosev said like it was fucking bad.
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You know, it's scary, scary. And I was like, it's wrong.
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Fuck, it's actually fucking bad. You know, like people were
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giving Travis like, like, I know how many people died.
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A few people died at that Astro World thing, but people were
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coming for Travis Scott. And it's like, do you think he
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planned how the festival was like set up or like the fact
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there wasn't enough water? Like Travis Scott's not this is
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not a blueprint. This is not his responsibility
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for sure, you know, But we talking about like simple human
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stuff, you know, like you know what you're talking what I'm
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talking about. Plus it's at night.
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I mean, I don't know the details of it, but from stage it's kind.
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Of and it's always like adrenaline and for for the
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artist when you perform, you just fucking feels high, you
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know, and especially in the crowd, you feels high as well
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and you cannot control. You can't possibly see every
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single thing exactly, but like you can imagine how bad that
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must feel. Exactly.
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Like after the show you're like, yeah, that was fucking sick.
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And they're like 3 people died, Yeah.
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That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.
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This. Is price of fucking pain.
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But we stopped the set like almost every time at this point
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because like it not first we did it and someone, I think they
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almost broke their back so they couldn't even get them out.
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They were like, we had to separate them and they had to
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get the ambulance into the front.
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It wasn't like they could just like get in and walk them back
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out or something. It was crazy.
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This. Is why I want to people
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understand when they go to see us on the festivals.
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You have to like, like be ready for for some shit like that.
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You know, if you want to go into the marsh or wall of deaths or
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whatever, go on the front and go in the fucking mosh pit area and
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all this stuff. But if you don't want, and if
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you just want to see us and enjoy the show, just step back.
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Ideally with a chair. I love a chair.
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Sit me the fuck down. Fucking.
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I watched my sugar at the Wilton and I was in a chair.
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Oh, it's beautiful. Fucking amazing.
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Yeah, it's beautiful. I felt like writing notes.
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Very good section there. But no, I think the thing with
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Travis Scott was, and I don't know, like maybe some of it was
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his fault, but like all of the videos that were on social media
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were of him not let not stopping the show.
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But then there were other, there was, there was other videos
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where he did stop the show. So it's like if that happened
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that your guys set guaranteed it would be they didn't stop the
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show or something. Why?
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Actually we stopped it three times, but you didn't put that
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video up. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, that's the that's the thing.
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You just. Love to judge like literally
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everyone about everything but they never fucking wear these
17:14
shoes. They will never understand what
17:16
exactly is going on and it's just wrong to judge somebody
17:20
literally, even if that person is acting wrong or fucking doing
17:26
the wrong shit or something. Who are you to judge first of
17:30
all? Second of all, we have special
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like like courts and fucking police and all of this.
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Process. Process.
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Yeah, to make it right. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. They're not often that good,
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though. But we're getting into that for
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sure, because for sure. Because you're quite
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misunderstood. I think you're all right.
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You're quite misunderstood. But we'll get into we'll get
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into that. OK.
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But what I want to talk about, we talked about someone nearly
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broke their back. And I mean this in a respectful
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way. What the fuck happened to your
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face? Oh yeah, bare knuckle fight.
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Bare knuckle. Yeah.
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Is that legal? Yeah.
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In Russia? In Russia?
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It's not legal here, surely. It's legal in some states, Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. Tennessee's definitely legal
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here. Oh, they probably fucking love
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it here. But Tennessee, you can bare
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knuckle fight. Florida.
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Oh, they love it in Florida. Oh yeah, yeah.
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You know the little. Thing you're fucking doing out
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on the weekends in between shows.
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No, no, no. How'd you get into that?
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It's a good question. Yeah, it's a good question.
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I mean, I just love MMA and I believe in 2012 I start to watch
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like the the MMA fights like a Pride, UFC, Bellator or
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Bellator, I don't know. And I was like, OK, if I, if I
18:51
like something, I try to try myself in this, you know what I
18:56
mean? So I'm like slowly start to try
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it and 2022 I believe I start to visit the boxing class very
19:12
often. And I just ask myself like what
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I'm doing for what I need, like maybe some competition.
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And I found out about bare knuckle and for me it was a good
19:31
option because bare knuckle is very different like comparing to
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boxing because. It's a real fight.
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Yeah, it's a real fight. And if you got like if you get
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punched by the the fist, it's just different.
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Got punched from the by the fucking globe, Yeah, it still
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hurt and all this shit, but got punched by the fucking knuckle
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is just different, you know and. How is it different?
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What's the difference between like a?
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He broke my nose literally from this.
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I saw the photo bro. It was.
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Fucking did you watch? The fire?
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No, I didn't see the fire. I saw the photo.
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So it's from this distant, he just and that's it.
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This is a bad knuckle, you know, and you don't have you, you,
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you, you don't have any like power in this punch or whatever.
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You just like like pick or something, you know a.
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Little jab a little jab a. Little jab, yeah, and it's over,
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you know? And with the glove, that would
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have just like shook your head. Exactly, exactly.
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And with the boxing you like you, you boxing for the like
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points like it is still dangerous.
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You still have knock downs and knockouts and everything, but
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with bare knuckle each punch like very dangerous, you know?
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People die in the street. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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And that means literally everyone has this chance.
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So I was kind of new in the boxing A.
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Chance to die. A chance to.
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A chance to win. Everyone has this chance, but
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someone can. Die.
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This is the difference in mentality, like a chance to die.
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And he's like no chance to kill someone.
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OK, Yeah. Exactly.
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So I was thinking I'm not very good on boxing, I'm horrible on
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boxing, but I need this chance to kill somebody.
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Actually to kill someone, not. Kill, but we please.
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Clarify. OK, I'm trying, yeah.
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So, miss, he's a nice guy. I am, yeah.
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He's chill here. If he wasn't, I think he'd
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misunderstood. Yeah, I, I really think, but
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it's all about language. But here I, I I try my best to
21:49
learn English and bring my sense of humour and my character with
21:55
English. That's what people don't like,
21:57
yeah. Yeah.
22:00
I mean, 2.3 million followers, they thought they they fucking
22:03
like it. Yeah, well, how come your teeth
22:05
are so good if you've been getting punched in the face?
22:07
So this fake, I made it in Dagestan, actually in Russia for
22:15
maybe $100. What the fuck?
22:18
Yeah, you. See, let me see that.
22:19
Look at look at this camera with that 100 bucks.
22:22
Yeah, but it's not the ceramic. It's it's just like when you go
22:28
to the Doctor, like the. Dentist.
22:32
Dentist Yeah, yeah. So if you have a problem and A
22:36
and a hole in your like a filling, yeah, yeah, it's a
22:39
filling with this cement, you know, with this material you
22:43
just so yeah. So this is literally this
22:47
material, but he just made it very beautiful.
22:51
Is it stuck in there? Yeah, exactly.
22:53
I never cut my real. Ohh shape down your teeth and
22:58
yeah. Yeah.
22:59
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 bucks, I
23:02
could do it that, yeah. Good luck going to Dagestan to
23:05
do that though, mate. Yeah, that's where you know her,
23:07
Her bib. Yeah, yeah.
23:09
That's where he's a lot of from. I've been to Russia once.
23:12
I did 11 tour and I did actually Madison, can you pull up
23:16
Brutality Will Prevail, which is my old band, Funny enough,
23:20
Prevail. BWP mate.
23:22
We did Russia and we did too long in Russia.
23:25
I think we did. We did two weeks and normally
23:28
everyone goes just Moscow and yeah, and we did like all this
23:33
shit in between. How do you like it?
23:34
To be honest, if you're fucking hated.
23:37
No judging. No, no, it wasn't even the
23:41
shows. Yeah, it was very careful.
23:44
I pick my words. Here it was the travel because
23:48
we drove. It.
23:49
Oh shit, yeah, of course. It was like the worst roads of
23:51
it because we, we, we're driving obviously Saint Petersburg and
23:54
Moscow, beautiful places like love.
23:57
Those two, the rest of. And then we like fucking drove
24:00
from one to the other and it was insane.
24:02
We also, there was a lot of culture differences that I
24:05
experienced and that's what a part of the reason whenever
24:09
something pops off with you, I have this like I've been to
24:14
Russia and it was like 20/20/12. And it was like, you know, in
24:17
the alternative scene, I saw your, your, your choices of who
24:22
there are, who there are to hang out with.
24:24
There's not many there's like, and it's, it was eye opening for
24:28
me and I remember going away from that being fucked me.
24:30
I really didn't like that we had two shows get shut down.
24:33
We weren't even like anywhere near political band. 2 shows
24:36
shut down because Nazis came with a gun to kill us.
24:42
And it was like, we're not even talking about that shit.
24:44
That wasn't Moscow, Russia. That was like somewhere crazy.
24:46
So Russia since then changed a lot actually.
24:49
You talking about 2012, right? 2012.
24:52
It's changed a lot, but yeah. This is the thing I I understand
24:57
that it's fuck me, I'm on vk.com.
24:59
I really am in Russia right now. Can I?
25:01
Even get. I bet is your city.
25:03
Wait, what is that? Yeah, Did you?
25:05
Was it you these guys came to the?
25:09
Show Wait, I recognise you. 2012 Come on, fucking internet's bad
25:15
here. Is this what Russian internet's
25:17
like? It's slowing.
25:18
Leave that banger joke in, please.
25:20
I can't pronounce any of this. You're.
25:21
Saying your Internet isn't rushing about.
25:24
It's still loading. That was, yeah, that one.
25:27
That one's that one's got stave sleeves, Scott or Dave Simon.
25:31
Sampedeburg it's a. Weird font as well.
25:33
Wolgde, Eroslav, Vladimir. Moscow, Bransk.
25:44
He's good. Good places, bad places.
25:47
Petrosk. Just making noises now.
25:50
So, so this is that was Ukraine, the ideas and Kiev and yeah, so
25:58
you got like 123456 shows in Russia and then 1234 in Ukraine.
26:06
And it's actually very common, was common, you know, yeah,
26:11
start from Russia and and in Kiev, for example, because it's
26:17
too close to Europe and you just go to Europe then.
26:20
Yes. Are any of those places good?
26:25
No, I was. Going some pieces book.
26:26
Yeah, I mean the other. Place is none of those.
26:29
Like I've never heard of those. Yeah, but but you understand
26:31
that you play this is Russia, right?
26:33
You played this area. Yeah, the whole this area.
26:38
Yeah, we played there. Siberia.
26:41
Siberia. But you were stalk then you were
26:43
stalk and this. Yeah.
26:45
Is it cold there? Is it always cold?
26:47
No Siberia. Siberia.
26:51
Siberia has brutal winter and brutal summer as well.
26:55
Hot. Really.
26:56
A bit like Glasgow? Fuck yeah, a bit like Glasgow.
26:59
I think. I think.
26:59
You're fighting there as well actually.
27:02
Like we're we're still on your bare knuckle thing.
27:04
OK, so did you win or? Not Nah, but we put the great
27:08
show. It was brutal.
27:10
Fight do you? And do you worry?
27:12
No, I'm not worried. You're not worried for the
27:13
house. Oh, the house.
27:15
Yeah, I'm worried. Yeah.
27:17
You are worried? Yeah, of course I'm worried.
27:20
Like you just fucking punt your eyes fucking red bro.
27:23
My whole face broken. How many times?
27:26
Just once. Just once.
27:28
No, actually that. Can you explain the injuries
27:32
that you explained to us, which is, by the way, like one week
27:35
before we had to leave for the Yeah.
27:37
So this is what we're hearing. Yeah, so I I got this area
27:43
broken. The Brow.
27:45
Yeah, the orbits here inside there, inside the nose.
27:52
Yeah, that's not just one. That's many, many.
27:55
Yeah, yeah, there and somewhere there fucking around.
28:00
Yeah, it's brutal. And my nose still blocked.
28:03
And you got a oxygen in the brain, right?
28:06
And I got oxygen in the brain. She's very dangerous.
28:09
Really sounds like you want that.
28:11
Yeah, of course that's what I thought, but apparently not.
28:13
Doctors kind of disagree with it.
28:15
Yeah. So this happened in Russia and
28:17
then you went to Russian hospital?
28:18
Yeah, I ran. They said.
28:22
Like you have to stay for at least for three or four days.
28:26
I was like, damn, I'm not fucking staying.
28:28
In hospital and you fucking dipped.
28:31
You left the hospital. Yeah, it's got better places to
28:33
be. No surgery, no nothing, just
28:36
just your face is fucked. See like yeah.
28:38
Sounds stupid, right? I mean, it's fucking crazy.
28:41
I am stupid actually. It's kind of, it's kind of sick
28:43
how fucking crazy that is, though.
28:46
Because they told me you need surgery, but after surgery you
28:50
recovering would take like at least two or three weeks.
28:55
But right now if you leave that shit like this, your recovery
29:00
maybe will take like 2 weeks. And this all swallow goes right.
29:04
Yeah. So I don't have time.
29:06
I don't have much time because we got to play the show in
29:10
incarceration and the Rockfest. I was like, no, I'm not doing
29:14
that shit right now. Can.
29:15
You get annoyed when he goes off and does this stuff and it's
29:18
like in case it cancels the show.
29:20
I mean, obviously it. Doesn't cancel the party.
29:22
Look how fucking crazy little smart.
29:24
I mean, to like, to be completely real, the big reason
29:28
about CNS Live is you want to see this, this crazy fucker
29:31
perform, right? Yeah.
29:32
So I'm never angry that he goes and does just crazy shit like
29:36
with bears and this and that. You know, I think it plays a
29:39
part of it, but can I show Craig the photo you sent me of you and
29:44
how you trying to sleep with this little thing?
29:46
Oh yeah, yeah. I've got a couple.
29:48
Can it can it go on the podcast? Yeah.
29:50
Yeah, it's just a small tube because I cannot breathe with my
29:54
nose. My nose was completely blocked
29:56
and when I I'm sleeping I'm breathing with my nose right.
30:00
This is what I got mate. This is so well this.
30:04
Is text that came with that. So this is like how you doing
30:07
mate? And he's like, not bad.
30:10
I'll be fine. Yeah.
30:11
Not fine, mate. I'll probably, yeah, you know.
30:12
I'm a different person. Yeah, so I found this little
30:16
tube from the pencil. So I just like breathe with this
30:22
shit because every time I I'm sleeping, every time I shut my
30:25
mouth, you know, and I was like, I I wake, I'm waking up because
30:29
I'm stopping breathe, you know? So I put this little tube in my
30:34
mouth so I can't sleep. I mean, I got fucked up, knows
30:37
it stops my sleep, but nothing like that.
30:39
Yeah. Did they say what?
30:41
And then we'll move on? Did they say like, is there like
30:45
repercussions later on, like something bad that will happen
30:48
if you don't get the surgery? Yeah, it's about.
30:52
Yeah. It's about like taking the right
30:55
amount of oxygen and all this shit.
30:57
But after that fight, what bothers me is my or like like
31:06
mouths and my lips inside was fucking like cracked and and I
31:10
have like trauma inside so I cannot eat because it's so
31:15
fucking painful. Jaw is.
31:17
No, my jaw is fine, but my, my like lips inside.
31:21
No, your lips. My yeah, I cut it so every time
31:24
and I cannot open my mouth very wide, you know, because
31:28
everything hurts, you know, and I tried to eat and I was like,
31:32
and it's so fucking painful in one week, you know, I cannot eat
31:37
proper, properly. And then I still cannot feel my
31:44
like this area my teeth. Or numb.
31:47
Numb like the gums? Yeah, yeah, gums and yeah and
31:51
everything. We we don't know what that is
31:55
called. And and I, I didn't taste
32:01
anything for two weeks. Right now is.
32:04
It coming back. Coming back, it's coming back.
32:06
Fuck. Me.
32:07
That's some crazy shit. Yeah, it's the price.
32:10
It's the price you pay for being a fucking lunatic.
32:14
Respectfully. Why I did that shit?
32:16
Because I always wanted to put myself in the situations like
32:23
this, like a stressful situation and see who am I in these
32:27
situations, you know? Because in the first round he
32:31
start to fucking punch me really hard in my face.
32:34
He broke my nose. And I was like, what I'm fucking
32:38
doing? Why am I doing this shit?
32:39
Because I have a year and I, I have money.
32:44
I, I have my son arriving soon and all this shit.
32:48
And then I was like, no, I will not fucking give up.
32:51
I will fucking fuck you up you. Know like I have weird therapy,
32:55
Yeah. The.
32:57
World weirdest therapy and how do you feel after it?
33:01
You feel different. Great.
33:02
Yeah, Yeah, you're fucking. Smiling.
33:06
Are you gonna do it again? Yeah.
33:08
Really. Yeah.
33:10
Actually, how long we have something really cool planned.
33:13
What is it? We can talk about it.
33:15
Yeah, Why not? It's called blood for blood and
33:18
it's basically. You fucking your eye, you drop
33:20
them evil, that's called. Blood for blood, blood, blood.
33:24
Right. All cameras are on.
33:26
Yeah. So blood for blood.
33:28
This is you. It's gonna be an arena, it's
33:31
gonna have a bare knuckle ring and it's gonna have metal bands
33:34
playing in between the fights. I was gonna say, I thought you
33:36
were saying metal bands on stage fighting.
33:38
No. No one's gonna do it.
33:40
Be him, yeah. Next step?
33:42
Yeah, fuckers. Him and a bear.
33:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Metal bands playing in between.
33:48
Yeah, so we're gonna have like a band playing, then a fucking
33:51
bare knuckle fight and then a band.
33:52
The ultimate dopamine entertainment mate.
33:55
Just. Sounds like one of those fucking
33:58
movies that gets banned. Yes.
34:01
What if you're in the band that plays before someone dies?
34:05
Is that your fault? Well, you, you just better put
34:08
on a fucking good set up that. No one's died.
34:11
Playing in the back? Where is this going to be held?
34:15
And so I think the first one will be in Florida right now
34:17
around May, but you know, that's what we're like figuring out and
34:20
do it pretty much in the works right now.
34:22
Yeah, Fuck yeah. And the first one we want, we're
34:27
thinking, thinking we'll perform slaughter, we'll perform and
34:30
Alex will fight so straight after, yeah, so and have like a
34:34
sick fucking ring, mate, you know, Pyro stage and.
34:37
All that you need to have tests done on your brain.
34:41
That would be fun. That's.
34:42
Crazy. That's a cool idea, right?
34:45
Yeah, it's crazy be KFC, but we're fucking metal bands.
34:48
And we were thinking of trying to bring the the energy from a
34:50
metal show to a bare knuckle. So not people sitting in chairs
34:53
watching it, but like they're like buy the fucking ring
34:56
watching it meter from you, you know, And then you just see a
34:59
fucking heavy band throw down. Did you get paid for the fight?
35:03
Not really. Not really.
35:05
There was some, but not. It was like maybe a. 100 bucks
35:12
for the teeth. No, three, $3000 Yeah, it's,
35:17
it's nothing. It's nothing to get your arse
35:18
kicked. It's fucking 33 grand.
35:22
I would not get my face broken a million fucking times.
35:25
Yeah, all. Right.
35:26
We'll move on. That was nice.
35:27
That was lovely. Thanks, everyone.
35:29
You're doing great. We talked about your
35:33
controversy. Controversial figure.
35:36
Yeah, nutsy, nutsy, nutsy, nutsy, nutsy.
35:38
Well, this, this is the thing, right?
35:40
And I've got in trouble for saying simply on the Internet, I
35:45
don't think this guy's a Nazi. If you don't know he had a
35:48
tattoo, he covered it up, right. Black son.
35:51
And yeah, a black son tattoo. And I got in trouble for saying
35:54
that. Number one, I don't think this
35:56
guy's a Nazi. I know enough people that know
35:57
him to know he's not a fucking Nazi.
35:59
You wouldn't be in here if you were a Nazi.
36:01
Yeah, you wouldn't be in this fucking country.
36:03
But like, I mean, I that's a fucking.
36:07
But like I got in trouble for saying that even I've been to
36:10
Russia around that sort of time and I've seen the 2 tribes you
36:14
can essentially choose to hang out with.
36:17
It'd be very easy to fall into the wrong crowd.
36:21
Realise later on it's. Excuses on the one side, you
36:25
know, on another side, you never been in my culture.
36:29
These people who's judging me and saying shit in the Internet,
36:34
they first of all, I'm very surprised because a lot of
36:37
people saying the shit about me, which is not true at all, and
36:42
they just making this shit up. You know, I was like what?
36:45
I never did that or I never said that.
36:47
Like you wank your dog off, that was one I saw.
36:50
Or did you wank the dog off that?
36:52
One was true. Oh fuck.
36:56
Dude, you forget about that one. No.
36:59
I know, I know. Literally.
37:01
You didn't before we come. No, no, it was a joke.
37:03
I saw it and I thought it was a joke.
37:05
And now, even now, I still see dogs.
37:07
He wanks his dog off. I said fuck me, that one's a
37:09
stretch. People love to like making this
37:14
shit up just from nothing and people just love to hate me.
37:20
And first of all I was like why people hate me?
37:24
And then I realized I have a fucking bad past and all this
37:28
shit and which is very logical people don't like me blah blah
37:33
blah. But then I just start to
37:35
understand people just love to hate me.
37:38
Like I never said shit, people saying I said something, you
37:45
know, and I was like, I never say that and or I never did that
37:49
shit and. Let's set.
37:50
Let's set the record straight, Yeah, Let's set the record
37:53
straight, Yeah. What is the story with the tag?
37:55
It was very popular to join right wing guys, which is very
38:02
like strong physically, like smart, don't dream.
38:08
How old are you at this point? Around 19/18/19 and before that
38:15
I was hanging out with actually antifa and we were just fucking
38:19
drink, use the fucking drugs and shit and I almost died because
38:28
of that, but not because I've hanging out with the antifa and
38:32
Antifa is bad guys just because I was in a bad company, you
38:37
know? You're a part in.
38:39
Yeah, and then after that I found myself like alone at home
38:45
and fucking completely lost, you know?
38:47
And I start to ask myself, who the fuck am I and what I'm
38:52
leaving for, you know? And I start to read about
38:59
esoterica. Esoterica.
39:00
It's just about like energy or. Yeah.
39:04
Stuff you know and. It's the Black sun if you if you
39:08
ruins. Yeah, Black Suns and everything,
39:11
you know. But I'm not stupid, of course.
39:13
I understand that it was used by Third Ray Nazi, you know, and a
39:19
lot of people in Russia, right wing guys, they use these
39:24
symbols like Calabrat, black sun runes and all this shit, but
39:29
they never been Nazi or racist or some shit like that.
39:33
They were like right wings. But I understand like even Nova
39:38
days, if you say right wings, this is equal racist or like
39:44
fucking Nazi, which is not true, completely not true, you know?
39:48
But anyway, it's just excuses for me because I understand that
39:53
that black sun triggered a lot of people because of fucking
39:57
third rape, you know, and I taken this responsibility.
40:03
I was fucking dumb and stupid and I was like, OK, I want to
40:07
join this party because. They strong guys, they motivate
40:11
me to be a better version of yourself.
40:14
Like go gym fucking educated yourself and all this shit.
40:19
But at the same time, I've never been fucking racist or fucking
40:24
Nazi or whatever radical views, you know, because for me, like
40:30
if you very radical on some like somewhere or on something, it's
40:36
wrong, you know, because. It becomes a.
40:39
It's not only white or black or Gray, it has many fucking colors
40:45
around everything, you know? And I just want to be wanted to
40:51
be a part of something, you know, and I choose this.
40:56
When did you cover it up? When we got the problem on
41:02
Europe European Tour, so we got the European Tour cancelled
41:07
because of my tattoo and because of my fucking surroundings.
41:13
And people start to say like he listened to right wing music and
41:19
all this shit. Yeah, which is true because I
41:21
just like that music and not about lyrics or not about like
41:25
political views. Like, for example, my friend
41:29
listened to this banner was like, wow, this is sick riff.
41:32
You know, this band you must murder, which is completely Nazi
41:37
band, you know, and I I love few songs and I was like, I really
41:43
enjoyed that music. I literally don't give a shit
41:46
about lyrics and I cannot understand the lyrics, you know,
41:49
but I was like this is sick tracks.
41:51
And I just put it on my playlist on the VK page and people just
41:58
screenshot it and say he's like, oh, he's very like a White
42:04
Tracks T-shirt. White Tracks is the right wing
42:09
company which were huge in Russia.
42:13
And I bought this T-shirt in the fucking mall center which is
42:17
crazy as well. Huh.
42:19
In the mall shopping. Mall, Yeah, yeah.
42:22
And people just bring the shit up, you know, And they found my
42:26
picture. I'm standing with the the rifle,
42:33
the fucking third to Ray. He used this rifle back in the
42:36
days like the war, you know, with.
42:39
This with this fucking. Hat and.
42:42
What the hat? What hat?
42:43
So the fuck you know exactly what?
42:45
Yeah, we have a fucking Swazi on it.
42:47
We have a supposed to go on it. No, no.
42:49
Like an s s. Something that's hot.
42:52
Skull. Exactly.
42:53
It's Skull. Yeah.
42:55
So I went to my friend's house. This friend, his father, very
43:01
big collector, yeah, and he has a lot of stuff from war, which
43:06
is like USSR and Nazi and all of this fucking knives and fucking
43:12
rifle, fucking unicorns, all the shit.
43:15
And I was like, this is fucking sick.
43:18
Let's take a picture with this shit, you know?
43:20
And I put it on my fucking social media, like I'm not just.
43:25
Trying to just be stupid and see being a little boy.
43:28
Exactly, I was not a boy. I was like around 20 or fucking
43:32
90. He was not.
43:34
I remember it was around 19, right?
43:35
Yeah, but it doesn't matter. He's just excuses.
43:38
I was stupid, right? And I, I have to take this
43:41
responsibility because I wasn't that boy, I wasn't like 13 years
43:45
old or fucking 14 years old. I was a grown man already.
43:49
So which is like, understand, I'm paying the price right now,
43:52
you know, and I paint, I paint this price very easy, you know,
43:57
and let's get back for a European Tour.
44:02
I covered my tattoos, not just because I changed my views or
44:09
like I, I changed my mind or something.
44:11
I was scared for my career and I'm completely honest, you know?
44:16
Also because you didn't want to be associated or.
44:20
After that, so I covered it right because I was scared and
44:28
maybe after three or four years I was like, of course, what the
44:33
fuck am I? Like, what the fuck did I do?
44:37
Like, why did I do that? You know, all this shit.
44:40
Because from that point of view, from my point of view, I was
44:45
like, no, you don't understand. This is a esoteric symbol, blah,
44:49
blah, blah. OK, I will cover it up because
44:53
I'm like, I'm scared for my career and all this shit, but
44:56
you guys wrong. You guys don't understand being
44:58
silly, you know? And after three or four years, I
45:02
was like, I was dumb, you know? And can I just say as well, for
45:07
the whole time I've known Alex, to be honest, I've never heard
45:10
him actually be political like I thought you.
45:13
Were going to say racist. I've never actually heard him be
45:16
racist so it's amazing. Yeah, like I've never like even
45:22
like, yeah, when we first started to write music or even
45:24
going on tour. He you know, you've when
45:27
someone's political that is a big part of their life, like you
45:30
know. UX was political.
45:32
Yeah, political. And I was like, Oh yeah, don't
45:35
want to touch them. You know, so it's like.
45:37
That was another reason when this came up and I was like, I I
45:40
want them on the podcast because I'm so sure that guy's not a
45:42
fucking Nazi. You, you have to be so fucking
45:46
careful with what you're saying, what you're doing when you're a
45:50
very popular guy, because people has individual sense of humor.
45:57
People has different taste of literally everything.
46:01
People has they own fucking point of view for this world and
46:07
they don't know you personally, they don't feel you.
46:10
They don't I don't know, it's just very, very easy to judge
46:15
people in the Internet just because you saw something he
46:20
says he does or whatever, you know, but if it's it is very
46:26
different if you know this person and he was like, OK, of
46:31
course he's saying that because of this, because of that or he's
46:34
saying that on the fucking is not serious all this shit, but
46:38
people doesn't understand that. The one where I sort of draw the
46:41
line and I I'm quite open and to be honest, I did see people's
46:45
reasons for thinking that about you because of the fucking
46:48
tality, but I knew from people that knew you.
46:51
I was like, no, I know the full story, love to get the full
46:54
story out and I'm fucking for one glad that you like realised,
46:59
you know that we've. Played with Antifa bands, Yeah,
47:03
right at the time when he had this and with the hoodie and
47:05
everything. Where I sort of draw the line is
47:07
I just had Kublai Khan on here recently.
47:10
I love this great band, fucking great band, great guys.
47:13
And Matt had liked a photo. I'm not going to go into the
47:16
whole thing, but he'd like a photo.
47:19
I'm a guy that he doesn't like. I know Matt.
47:21
Matt doesn't even fucking know the guy, right?
47:23
And he liked the photo. And the Internet is fucking just
47:27
piling on. And then they're piling on me as
47:31
well. In Instagram.
47:33
Yeah, piling on me for having him here.
47:35
And it's like this guy liked a photo.
47:38
It's a guy, a guy with a Trump flag.
47:39
And the guy, admittedly, is fucking sketchy.
47:41
The guy's sketchy. But like having a go.
47:44
This is me. This is very absurd.
47:46
And even if he liked something like the photo or something,
47:51
sometimes I'm sitting in my Instagram.
47:54
I was like, I'm not following this fucking account.
47:57
How did I do that? You know, and I I'm full of this
48:00
shit, you know, sometimes it's just pressing randomly like and
48:06
I didn't know about that. And imagine if you'll you like
48:09
something and just people come up to you.
48:12
You like this for the what? It's just Internet.
48:15
It's not real live. People forget all context,
48:18
that's the other thing. I refuse to like engage in the
48:21
comments for that reason, but anyone getting this far with
48:23
this podcast, do you think I would have someone that you
48:27
assume is related to those kind of people on this podcast?
48:31
You're fucking wrong. That's why we're on the fucking
48:33
podcast. Fuck off anyway.
48:37
Sick. So, right, For the record, Alex
48:39
is terrible. Yes.
48:41
Are you racist? Transphobic.
48:44
No. LGBT phobic?
48:47
No, you just want to kill normal normal people in the in the
48:51
ring. I hate myself, yeah, myself the
48:54
only the. Only the only person you hate is
48:56
yourself. Yeah, yeah, done.
49:00
That's fucking. That's fucking buried.
49:03
Did you wank your dog off though?
49:04
No where. Where did that one come from?
49:07
Because I asked this. Question really funny.
49:11
I so it was so funny I laughed my ass.
49:14
Off I I I love to ask stupid. Questions.
49:17
Sometimes you asked me before you posted it, you was like,
49:21
yeah, is this the correct grammar?
49:22
And he showed it. I was like, what?
49:24
Was it explain explain it for me?
49:26
So I had the dog. I have a dog.
49:29
Yeah, in Russia and in America. So in Russia I have female dog.
49:34
So finger. No, exactly because she got
49:37
finger blasted he was thinking about.
49:39
So I never I never think that female dog needs to like chill
49:45
out for once per fucking months or one per week.
49:50
But but I am a man and I understand another male, you
49:54
know, and maybe my dog have to like off yeah, I mean fucking
50:00
stress out, you know, I don't know.
50:02
I literally didn't know that, you know, and I was like, maybe
50:05
should I ask in Instagram and people who has the the male
50:10
dogs, maybe, maybe should I take him to the vet and that I'd
50:14
fucking do this shit. I don't.
50:16
Say or do I do it? But you're obviously, you're
50:19
obviously joking. That became a rumor where like
50:22
he jerks dogs off. That shit's fucking to be
50:25
honest. So what if you do jerk off?
50:28
Yeah, you can't. You can't judge me for jerking
50:30
off dogs. I can.
50:32
You can't. I don't jerk off dogs right?
50:34
There's a law. You literally can't do it.
50:36
Yeah, but. It was a joke.
50:38
I know it was a joke and it was a very fun joke and it Jack's
50:41
also joking. How about that guys?
50:43
Jack's joking. This is, this is what I'm
50:46
saying. People doesn't understand a
50:48
sense of humor sometimes, which is, which is understandable,
50:51
Yeah, because they don't know me, they don't know Jack.
50:54
And sometimes I don't understand Jack's saying his jokes or the
51:00
the this is. English humor, yeah.
51:02
The office. Exactly the UK and imagine
51:04
fucking millions of people watching me saying stupid shit.
51:08
I was like, it's serious, actually.
51:12
I need to be careful. Oh yeah, You know, yeah.
51:15
Do you actually have a time limit?
51:16
Nah, Nah all. Right, we've got, we're going to
51:19
do a bit on America. We can go as long as you want
51:21
because blade can just be repeated.
51:24
That blade gives us an extra 10 minutes of talking.
51:26
You know what I'm saying? Now you're seeing why we got the
51:28
full blade. You live in Florida.
51:31
You live a. Little bit everywhere.
51:33
What do you mean nomad? Traveller and nomad Traveller.
51:37
Traveller. Traveller.
51:38
I'm travelling. Yeah.
51:39
So actually I just got a house in Florida this this winter.
51:44
We can, you know, you buy, buy. Buy house?
51:47
Yeah, mortgage band bands doing good.
51:50
Mortgage. Bands doing good?
51:52
Fucking good for you. Actually to be honest, mortgage
51:56
is way easier to get out here than England.
51:58
Really. They.
51:59
They just need the credit card. Yeah, again, not everything.
52:03
Else Oh yeah, I'm. Having trouble right now where
52:05
they're like I have to put 40% down.
52:07
What? Yeah, yeah, 30%.
52:09
But then you don't need me 30. So I've got what?
52:11
He's crazy though. I've got the house.
52:12
I have no bank here, no credit score, nothing.
52:16
You mean that mortgage? There's a little Ukrainian man
52:18
that can get you whatever you. Need.
52:19
Is that what it is? Is actually.
52:21
Yeah, I, I actually. Missed the Yaroslav give you a
52:24
call 'cause I was like. Shut out.
52:26
Yeah, I was like, is it actually him?
52:27
I promise you, I was like, I don't think I can get it.
52:29
He's like, don't worry about it. Just make sure you sign the
52:31
contract, get it all done. Got him his house.
52:33
Yeah. Give me that call.
52:35
His number, Yeah. Do you have any culture shocks
52:39
in America? Shit.
52:42
Through 2016. How long have you lived there?
52:46
So I moved 2022 obviously because of war and because of
52:51
all banks, fucking sanctions, PayPal and all this shit left
52:57
and I was like I have to move my LLC from Russia to maybe
53:01
Kazakhstan. So I did.
53:04
Then I realized doesn't work good, you know, because of all
53:09
of these small details. And I was like, OK, maybe I
53:13
should go to America because we like fucking tour in America
53:20
since 2016, right? And in 2021 I start my visa
53:27
process for America because I wanted to move to America,
53:31
Florida. So, so just to check how the
53:36
things were there, you know, and how expensive is there and all
53:40
this shit. Just touch the fucking land, you
53:44
know, and then fucking obviously 2022 that shit happened and I
53:49
was like, OK, maybe should I go now?
53:52
And actually we, we got our visa exactly 24th, 24th February.
54:03
Yeah, which is war kicked in. Jesus Christ.
54:06
Like literally this day. Did you leave the same day?
54:09
So we went Poland and I got my passport.
54:13
All of this shit starts going on.
54:15
I was like, fuck, I need to go back to Russia now.
54:18
And they said like, no, you cannot because airports, like,
54:22
close, like no airport direct flights.
54:26
Yeah, I was like, fuck. So I stuck.
54:29
And then I found out the way to go back to Russia.
54:33
And we went back to Russia. We were sitting there for three
54:40
or four months and we was like waiting because that moment it
54:45
was just chaos. Literally nobody understand
54:48
nothing. And when it's over, when will it
54:53
over? And all this shit and the
54:55
currency between Robles and dollar was fucking like.
54:59
Yeah, I remember. Rollercoaster, you know?
55:02
And everything fucking goes crazy, you know?
55:05
And it was like, fuck, what should we do?
55:08
And then we moved to Florida, stick with the plan, change it a
55:14
little bit because we wanted to go there like a tourist just to
55:19
see what is going on. Then we changed the visa for
55:22
type O1, which is like a talented visa.
55:26
We go to Florida Hope and the LLC fucking rent the house,
55:31
bring the band, crew, everything.
55:35
Literally spent a lot of fucking money.
55:37
Everyone lives in the same house.
55:38
So yeah, our previous manager, our previous like, I guess merch
55:43
guy, yeah, front of house. But you, you lived in a
55:48
different house. Oh yeah, me.
55:51
Yeah, all the guys in one crew. House.
55:54
Sorry. No, sorry.
55:55
Or crew band. Crew band house.
55:58
Alex Yeah, yeah. Yeah, filled with masks
56:00
everywhere. Yeah, I mean, and in the crew
56:02
house, no one drove, so they had to get taxis to get to Walmarts.
56:05
And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:06
Cause for them, the culture shock, I remember them telling
56:08
me they were like, you can't walk anywhere.
56:10
It's like they're just all. Russian.
56:13
All Russian. Yeah, and actually our sound
56:15
guy, his name is Jose, right? And.
56:18
He his name is Alex, actually. But everyone told me Jose.
56:23
Is his nickname. You know and.
56:25
He's from a part of Siberia where he looks Mexican.
56:28
So when he would go into Walmarts and everyone, everyone
56:30
just spoke to me in Spanish. Yeah, which made it looks very
56:33
even more weird for him. You forget how big Russia is.
56:36
Like literally encompasses fucking Asia, Europe.
56:40
Yeah, you know what it's. Crazy.
56:42
Recently I googled the real size of countries and Russia is not
56:48
that big. Maybe it's not true, maybe it's
56:51
just theory or something. Google it.
56:55
Africa, the biggest fucking continent in the world.
56:59
Russia. Compare the Africa like this
57:02
then United States smaller. So this map you literally like
57:07
you usually see real. Podcast, it's fake.
57:09
Fake. Oh no, yeah, I've seen that
57:11
because it's a. Sand and the the the the whole
57:15
world flat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:20
I'm kidding, yeah, but the the the fucking size.
57:22
You're a funny guy. Sorry, you're a funny guy.
57:24
But that would be clip now I'd be like.
57:26
And it's a flat, yeah. Flat Earth and Nazi.
57:29
Another and another fucking reason to hate me.
57:32
Yeah, call me fucking stupid or some shit.
57:34
Flat Earth, and I've seen it wanks his dog off.
57:37
Okay, that's what it is. Have you got anything you
57:40
particularly like? Because I moved here just
57:43
December just gone. Oh really?
57:44
And I fucking love it. I love it.
57:46
I love Florida. I love the United States in
57:49
general, which is very different from 2016, for example.
57:55
Yeah, which is very different before COVID, yeah, changed a
57:58
lot, everywhere, everything. But still, I love United States
58:02
just for opportunities. Yeah, that's the main thing.
58:06
Fuck yeah. It's fucking amazing.
58:07
Yeah, I hate United States for food.
58:11
Sorry, not sorry. Well, you have fucking horrific.
58:14
Food. I don't know why there's sugar
58:16
in everything, even bread. Even bread, everything is fried.
58:20
What do you hate about it? Because I had this conversation
58:22
on the podcast recently with someone else because I was
58:24
saying I love American food, but.
58:27
What food? The the I love dog shit, man.
58:30
Yeah, but I love the fried fucking.
58:32
Really. Yeah, I love it.
58:33
What do you what's your ideal food?
58:36
Because I hated the food when I was in Russia.
58:38
Buckwheat. The fuck is that boiled?
58:40
Eggs. You.
58:41
Boiled eggs. Wait, wait, wait.
58:44
I mean, he's talking about Gretchka.
58:46
What? Gret Gretchka.
58:47
Gretchka. Yeah, I love it.
58:49
Buckwheat fucking shit you. Hate it or love?
58:52
It hated it, yeah. Because it.
58:54
Was just like gruel where it's like a Disney fucking like what
58:57
a Disney like bad guy would feed everyone.
59:01
You know what's wrong with you? The the most healthiest fucking
59:07
carbs is the buckwheat. Really.
59:10
So it's a health thing. See, I like not being healthy.
59:15
I'll be honest, I went to Eastern Europe recently, right?
59:19
Proper East, and I tried some of their food and I got salmonella.
59:23
Yeah, and that fucked me up. It's holidays.
59:26
It's like meat and Jelly. It's great.
59:28
But a lot of this stuff's like really good.
59:30
If you get the right stuff like Sir Nicki and all these kind of
59:34
foods, they're like really, really good.
59:36
I know I'm wrong in this. Like I know American food is
59:39
poison, but I like, love it. I love the poison.
59:43
Chick-fil-A or Popeyes, How old are you?
59:45
38. 38 yeah, it's 38 you looks good.
59:48
How? Are you going, baby?
59:52
Yeah. I'm 38.
59:53
I'm going to die from this fucking from this food.
59:55
Exactly. Like, I know in five years,
59:57
yeah, I I'll be healthy at some point, but I mean, I'm kind of
1:00:01
healthy. But how?
1:00:02
How often you eat per day? That's the thing I'm terrible
1:00:08
like I used to be like I'd eat 5 meals a day and they're back in
1:00:13
the UK and it would be chicken and rice and broccoli like I was
1:00:17
that guy. But then I moved here and I like
1:00:20
I'm probably eat. What are you smiling at?
1:00:22
The fact that we eat fucking take out every day.
1:00:25
I. Couldn't do your prison meals?
1:00:27
Yeah. Prison meals.
1:00:29
Yeah, I used to just. I was just cooking for myself
1:00:32
back in the UK. We lived together.
1:00:34
So I would just, I just eat chicken, rice, broccoli, like
1:00:38
every single fucking meal. Go gym and go gym.
1:00:41
And I looked fucking better than I do now.
1:00:43
And then I came here and it's like I wake up, I go to the gym
1:00:45
without eating, I'll come back, I'll have a shake, blueberries
1:00:49
and bananas and then I'll eat dinner and that's it.
1:00:53
So. Yeah, so fasting.
1:00:54
Kind of, but like accidental. OK, which is good because you
1:00:59
insulin not fucking having roller coasters and shit, which
1:01:03
is good for you. But that one meal that I have at
1:01:06
night is. But it's bad poison.
1:01:08
What? What is that?
1:01:09
Yeah. What?
1:01:10
What you say? What do you love?
1:01:11
What's your favorite American? Meal like fast food in America.
1:01:14
Yeah, just in general. That's canes.
1:01:16
What is it? Canes raising canes.
1:01:17
It's overrated, mate. It's just the sauce.
1:01:20
Nah, it's literally. Just like chicken tenders and
1:01:22
fries, it's like chicken. Tenders without the Caesar.
1:01:24
Children's food. I love Chipotle though.
1:01:27
How much Chipotle? Hey, we smashed Chipotle honey.
1:01:29
Chicken. Yeah, the new honey chicken, The
1:01:31
new 10 dude. This episode is brought to you
1:01:34
by Chipotle. The new honey chicken is crazy.
1:01:37
Yeah. The other day we waited for them
1:01:38
to cook it. They're like, I ain't going to
1:01:40
be ready for 10 minutes. We just waited.
1:01:41
We just wait. Yeah, we all the time.
1:01:43
I fucking love a Chipotle while we sit on the America chart
1:01:47
guns. Oh yeah, I love the guns, right?
1:01:50
And you we, we. Because of conscious strike, to
1:01:52
be honest. Bro wait wait, CS go or 1.6?
1:01:58
1.5. Bro 1.5 how?
1:02:01
Old are you so So I'm 32O31, how old are you?
1:02:05
Playing 1.5. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
1:02:06
wait. I start with Quake.
1:02:08
Yeah, yeah. Quake One or Quake 3?
1:02:10
Quake One. Quake One Yeah 9 inch Now
1:02:12
soundtrack. Yeah, so then Quake 3, then GTA
1:02:19
fucking three, yeah. I did the same.
1:02:22
I did this this exact thing. Vice City, which I punch people,
1:02:26
yeah, fucking pedestrian cars, that fucking half life.
1:02:32
Yeah, half of two Half Life 2 fucking Constrike 1.6 and then I
1:02:39
played Constrike 1.64 ages. Yeah, same.
1:02:44
That was my childhood. Yeah, exactly.
1:02:46
Then construct Go went out and I was like, this is bullshit, this
1:02:51
is fucking different. It's just.
1:02:53
They made it like Fortnite E like.
1:02:55
Exactly. But then after five years I was
1:02:58
like, yeah, I'm going to try that shit.
1:03:00
So I played fucking Ages in Construct Go and then Epics
1:03:06
Legends came out and I was there from the very beginning.
1:03:10
She's a, she's an apex, really. Who is your main?
1:03:13
Path fighter, Pal Fighter. Yeah, Grapple.
1:03:17
See, I I never got into Apex, but at the moment we're playing
1:03:20
Marvel rivals at the moment and I'm fucking loving it.
1:03:23
But CS 1.6, that was my shit when I was a kid.
1:03:27
Yeah, Sam, how are you getting a gun on no one, are you?
1:03:30
If you get just hunting license, Yeah.
1:03:32
In Russia, yeah. I mean, I hear.
1:03:34
So listen, yeah, guns in Russia as well.
1:03:38
And this is very fucking difficult to have guns in
1:03:41
Russia. Very difficult.
1:03:43
Can that be on here or we can? That's fine.
1:03:45
That's fine. Yeah, yeah.
1:03:46
And. Up to you.
1:03:49
In Russia it's very fucking strict with the guns and all
1:03:51
this shit. So I learned every single shit
1:03:54
about guns, like fucking safeties and fucking how you
1:04:00
like clean it, fucking shoot it, everything literally.
1:04:04
And I taken this very serious, you know, don't fucking IEM on
1:04:09
fucking person. Don't fucking put your fucking
1:04:11
finger on fucking trigger and all this shit very seriously,
1:04:15
right? Then I go to America with
1:04:19
tourist visa and I bought a rifle, 50 BMG fucking sniper
1:04:24
rifle with tourist visa just like that in Florida.
1:04:28
I was like, I love this country. Yeah.
1:04:33
But but the process because it was I remember this, it was
1:04:36
fucking great. You went there and they're like,
1:04:39
yeah, I guess we can check your visa.
1:04:41
Everything looks fine, but you need a hunting license.
1:04:43
He's like, oh shit, how's it? How's this going to take that's?
1:04:46
How you do it? Yeah, So he was like, we'll go
1:04:48
to Walmart. So we went to Walmart, $17.00.
1:04:51
Yeah. 15 minutes later you got your hunting license, went back.
1:04:55
There's a whole saw of guns. And in the middle there is a
1:04:57
like 50 BMG sniper rifle. And he's.
1:05:01
I remember you was talking to the guy and he was like, oh, you
1:05:03
can't have a handgun, you can't have that.
1:05:05
And he just turned. He was like, can I have that
1:05:07
one? And he?
1:05:08
Thanks for hunting. Yeah, you can get that one.
1:05:11
And it was like, boy, everything is like, I'll call you in.
1:05:13
What is it, 48 hours? If you get it or not, get a
1:05:15
call, come pick it up. That's it.
1:05:17
Yeah, so you can't get a handgun on a hunting license?
1:05:19
You can't get anything you can hide right?
1:05:21
Like saw an off shotgun without green.
1:05:23
Card. If you have a green card, you
1:05:25
can't have it. Got green card over there.
1:05:28
I'm working on that. Got a fucking green card over
1:05:31
there. All right, OK.
1:05:32
So, yeah, because I wanted to know that because because I
1:05:36
like, I don't know anything about guns, but like Counter
1:05:38
Strike go. Dude and literally.
1:05:40
I want to shoot at a fucking range.
1:05:42
Every time people kill. Anyone.
1:05:44
Every time people comments like, oh you're a tough guy, you think
1:05:48
you're a tough guy, you love guns, why you're not on the
1:05:50
frontline then? I don't want to be on the
1:05:53
fucking frontline. I just love guns.
1:05:54
Yeah, I want to play if I want to fucking shoot.
1:05:57
Exactly. I'm not the fucking warrior or
1:06:00
some shit. No thanks that.
1:06:02
You get you get heat for that for the gun stuff.
1:06:04
What like as in people and we'd just say stuff like that.
1:06:08
Yeah, yeah. I feel like I whenever I
1:06:10
mentioned guns on the podcast because everyone's like, because
1:06:12
I'm, I'm super left-leaning person.
1:06:15
Actually, yes. But like when I mentioned guns,
1:06:18
everyone's like, but this. And I'm like, I know in the UK,
1:06:23
one person went into a school with a handgun, right?
1:06:26
And they killed a bunch of kids and then we banned handguns.
1:06:28
Remember dumb Blaine, we banned handguns.
1:06:31
Guess what? It never happened again.
1:06:32
I know that's the right thing to do, however, I also know it's
1:06:36
never going to happen here and I kind of want to shoot a gun for
1:06:39
fun. You know, also with people
1:06:43
forget the context is every place that it's like kind of
1:06:46
there's a reason why it is the way it is.
1:06:48
Not that, you know, things can get better and change, but in
1:06:51
America, like for example, Florida, there's a lot of guns
1:06:53
in Florida. And I get there's a lot of bad
1:06:55
stuff with it, but I can say for one thing is you never wanna
1:06:58
fuck around in Florida. You're not gonna walk on
1:07:00
people's property. Same here.
1:07:01
Tennessee is close. Yeah, exactly.
1:07:03
It's a part of. Stand your ground laws and all
1:07:05
that fight cause. Someone else you're.
1:07:06
Not gonna start walking around gardens, whereas in England I
1:07:09
know it's people. Just fuck around people.
1:07:11
Cocky about shit. It will not walk in Russia, for
1:07:14
example, because if you allow guns like in America, in Russia
1:07:19
it will collapse. You know, like fucking.
1:07:21
Death. Yeah.
1:07:23
So it doesn't fit in our culture because we never had this
1:07:27
culture in America. You have this culture from the
1:07:30
fucking very beginning, right? So it's kind of walks to
1:07:34
Americans for Americans people, which is like like logical, you
1:07:39
know, like why it works, why it fits.
1:07:42
But anyway, I against the guns in general, you know, But if if.
1:07:47
I'm allowed to have. One, I'm having one exactly.
1:07:51
And if somebody has a gun and like my enemy or fucking or
1:07:57
whoever, you know, I want to have a gun as well.
1:08:00
Just in case, yeah, in case someone comes into my house
1:08:03
there, I want to kill them. Guys, this whole podcast I just.
1:08:08
Want you to lighten up dude. I I cannot kill literally a
1:08:12
flight all the time. My mom asked me kill the flight
1:08:15
in my fucking room. OK I have the bottle and I
1:08:19
catched it and I fucking like let it go because I have a dream
1:08:25
my fucking. Famous line that.
1:08:28
So recently recently I have a dream right?
1:08:31
I chasing somebody, somebody hurts me or some shit.
1:08:36
I chained like enemy right? I chasing him and then I have a
1:08:40
fucking AK. I fucking I am on him and I
1:08:45
cannot shoot because I just cannot.
1:08:47
I can't even in my fucking dream dude.
1:08:50
You can't. I just cannot in a in a ring,
1:08:53
you know? I was gonna say put that fucker
1:08:55
in a ring and that's the difference but.
1:08:57
This is his choice. My opponent choose that, you
1:09:00
know? Yeah, he signed the paper and
1:09:01
all this shit. Yeah.
1:09:03
True, yeah, I suppose we should talk about your fucking album
1:09:05
'cause we haven't yeah. Been been fun though you're.
1:09:08
Having fun? Yeah.
1:09:09
I I like, I prefer these chats, yeah.
1:09:12
I love it but you don't get to know someone unless it's like a
1:09:15
2 hour thing and like we don't know we we have.
1:09:17
Time. We have time.
1:09:18
No, I mean, just in general, like podcast, yeah.
1:09:20
Like, I think that there's so much better than like a
1:09:23
festival. Yeah, like I'm talking about the
1:09:25
album. 10 seconds. Tell me about that tattoo like
1:09:27
you never get in that. Yeah.
1:09:29
How? Yeah, yeah.
1:09:30
How it's fucking men. We don't Joking your dog off.
1:09:33
We don't. No.
1:09:35
OK, Grizzly. Yeah, yeah.
1:09:37
Wouldn't it come out yesterday? Yeah, 2 days ago, yeah.
1:09:40
No, I was in the gym today. I I sent you.
1:09:43
Yeah, I was in the gym today and I was about to start a set and
1:09:49
lift. This shit came on.
1:09:51
Don't be a fucking pussy. It was.
1:09:52
Literally as I was about to start, yeah, don't be a fucking
1:09:56
pussy. And I was like, I just laughed.
1:09:58
They'll send you a message. I was like, that's so fucking
1:10:00
funny. Yeah.
1:10:01
Where did you record Grizzly? How does that work with such a?
1:10:04
Please tell. Fucking it's like everywhere.
1:10:07
It's like, it's like a Frankenstein.
1:10:09
Or in terms of actually recording.
1:10:11
Or do you mean writing? Writing and recording?
1:10:13
Really. So this I keep saying it, but
1:10:15
basically this is less of just an album, we have more of a
1:10:19
collection. We should name this fucking
1:10:22
album Frankenstein Franklin, not Grizzly.
1:10:24
Yeah. Literally.
1:10:26
Literally. Because it was over like, what,
1:10:28
three years? Yeah, keep going.
1:10:32
Yeah, yeah, It's like over the last three years we're just
1:10:36
writing music and I. Would say 4.
1:10:39
Yeah, maybe even 4. We're just writing and we have
1:10:42
ADHD, I can say because we just start to like, we start right?
1:10:46
Once we're like, that's sick, That's the direction we go walk
1:10:50
the dog and all that shit. You know when we're staying
1:10:52
together, we were walking the dog right and then.
1:10:58
I love my dog. I know just I know bro.
1:11:02
And the love docs. Yeah, he loves me.
1:11:05
Yeah. So we wrote it over three years.
1:11:07
So each song represents kind of like a time or period in that
1:11:10
three years that we just felt like we wanted to make it.
1:11:13
So that's why it sounds kind of, it's more of a collection of
1:11:15
songs. There's no, it's just straight
1:11:17
concept through it. It's different sort of vibes in
1:11:20
each one. For example, Rodina, I remember
1:11:23
at the time we were both missing home and I just started to write
1:11:26
this sort of melody and then we pieced it together and all that.
1:11:29
And then Rodina means motherland in Russia and all that where?
1:11:33
You're writing these at home. I want to get like I want to get
1:11:37
from idea of the song to studio. So like how are you writing and
1:11:42
then what? How are you getting?
1:11:43
So at the time, the same room, yeah, we at the time we were
1:11:46
staying in a place called Polk City in Florida, which is proper
1:11:50
swampland in Florida. Laura amazing for writing an
1:11:53
album, but it's in between Orlando and Tampa.
1:11:56
Yeah, like proper. Oh, like it's it's mental humid.
1:12:00
It's Oh yeah. I read a one time, sorry, but
1:12:02
one time I googled a story like about Polk City, man, Polk City
1:12:06
there and they said about a guy chopped off his son's head,
1:12:10
decapitate his own son. And they called the police and
1:12:12
said, hey, someone's trying to break into the house and kill my
1:12:15
children. So I've cut his head off and
1:12:16
he's here and it because it was hard on meth and this is Polk
1:12:19
City. But it looks beautiful when you
1:12:22
drive through. It looks beautiful.
1:12:23
So you don't know, but the people are crazy, right?
1:12:25
It's fucking insane. And they're apparently a Russian
1:12:27
guy also bought a 50 BMG sniper there.
1:12:30
So. And there you go, right?
1:12:32
Yeah. So we literally would be walking
1:12:35
around swamps seeing alligators and shit and they come.
1:12:37
Back who was there? Yeah.
1:12:40
In that town, yeah. With an alligator, probably.
1:12:43
But yeah, this. Is my dog's fight?
1:12:46
Yeah. What?
1:12:46
The dog. The dog fought the alligator,
1:12:48
actually. Oh yeah, he did.
1:12:50
Yeah. Oh, actually, yeah.
1:12:51
She jumped in the swarm and I was walking my dog with the
1:12:56
fucking lish and all this shit and it was like a swarm on the
1:13:01
left, swarm on the right and tiny fucking trail.
1:13:03
And we were fucking there. And he just hit something and
1:13:09
fucking jump in the swarm and I just fucking hold him.
1:13:13
He, he's a massive, he's like 120 fucking pounds.
1:13:16
Massive fucking fucking pure. Muscles bigger then as well Oh
1:13:19
yeah 120 now he's a yeah yeah that's about.
1:13:21
Madison's weight. Pouring me and he just jumped.
1:13:26
I fucking like pull it as hard as I can and then pull and I see
1:13:33
the leash and the collar, just collar.
1:13:37
And I'm about to jump in this fucking swarm to fucking save
1:13:41
him, you know? And then I see his face in the
1:13:45
mud, dirt, fucking, you know, I was like, gods, what the fuck?
1:13:51
And Alligator just went away. Yeah, they're scared.
1:13:54
They're scared. They're really scared of people.
1:13:56
That was a crazy scared of things.
1:13:57
God, that's. Fucking insane.
1:13:59
Yeah. Can we make a fucking album?
1:14:01
Though, right? Anyway, yeah, and it's.
1:14:02
A great It's a great fucking story.
1:14:03
We were just writing it like that, so we just had a lot of
1:14:07
different ideas. We wanted to try new stuff each
1:14:10
track. We literally wanted to just try
1:14:12
something different. There's like a lot of our
1:14:14
inspirations like Rammstein and Slipknot and all these things we
1:14:18
wanted to try and incorporate in a way that's new, that's still
1:14:21
Slaughter with vocals, with guitars and.
1:14:24
I thought it was Till. There's two moments where I was
1:14:27
like, that Is that Till And the credits?
1:14:29
It's like, no, it's you. Oh.
1:14:30
Yeah, yeah, A. Fucking good little nod there.
1:14:34
Yeah, yeah, I love Rammstein, I love Slipknot and I don't
1:14:38
understand why people sometimes people says like we ripping this
1:14:43
some bands off. Yeah, we do, because I like
1:14:46
them, you know, and I just want to bring our sound, but with mix
1:14:51
with the bands I grew up whiz and the best who motivate me to
1:14:56
do music. It does sound like if you gave
1:14:59
Slipknot some meth. Alligator man.
1:15:03
Speed him up a bit. A fucking testosterone, yeah, a
1:15:06
little bit steroids, more like trend.
1:15:09
Trend. Yeah.
1:15:11
Don't do trend. Yeah, don't.
1:15:12
Do trend, yeah, there is alright there.
1:15:14
Speaking of Slipknot, is there a Slipknot verse in there or is it
1:15:17
just exactly the same phrase in? In grizzly right Russian.
1:15:20
Grizzly. Yeah, Russian grizzly.
1:15:21
Oh, it's lyrics. Yeah, it's exactly the Slipknot
1:15:24
lyrics. I just fucking took it.
1:15:27
I never asked them, you know. That's what I was gonna ask.
1:15:29
I'm silly. I'm very naive and silly person.
1:15:32
I was like, I like that. I'll take that, you know.
1:15:37
What's not? It's right, mate.
1:15:38
Tell me what you want. Yeah.
1:15:40
What's not? Something I can't remember.
1:15:41
Sick. Sick.
1:15:42
Yeah. Yeah.
1:15:43
So do they know that you've had that?
1:15:45
They know now. We have the same management.
1:15:47
As are they fine? Everything cool and I'm not sure
1:15:49
give me some of that money. I'm very sorry guys.
1:15:52
I'm very, very respectful for you and I'm not.
1:15:56
I don't want to be that guy who's like fucking pain in the
1:16:00
ass and yeah, chasing hype or something.
1:16:03
I just very like your music. That's it.
1:16:06
Fucking sorry. So I took it.
1:16:10
Shit. It fits.
1:16:11
Yeah. And it's like, it's different,
1:16:12
isn't it? Because the first time you got
1:16:14
the same phrase. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:16:15
And in the second time, yeah, it is the whole thing.
1:16:17
It's just the same rhythm and then it's the literally the same
1:16:21
lyrics. So you write to together you 2.
1:16:24
Sorry, you were saying you walking around these bayus and
1:16:26
swamps and stuff? Sometimes Dima join us, the
1:16:29
guitarist and other. Guitars on the new album no but
1:16:31
on the last no Brad the Wall of Death album our guitarist Dima
1:16:35
wrote so on this one we actually had Nikita who's actually our
1:16:38
video guy okay so he plays drama yeah and he has a really good
1:16:43
idea for structure so for example for song three with baby
1:16:46
metal yeah and for Russian grizzly he has this really
1:16:51
interesting way how he. Catching moments, you know?
1:16:55
Yeah, it's. Basically about structure and
1:16:56
all that structure. And at what point have we gotten
1:16:58
from walking around a swamp to Nikita's here?
1:17:01
Yeah, so far. Like.
1:17:02
Three years. So the majority of the album,
1:17:04
like Viking, Kod and most of these tracks we just wrote, we
1:17:08
just wrote together give. Me what?
1:17:09
How did you write it 'cause I'm not OK.
1:17:11
You gave me the story about we walking around a swamp.
1:17:13
He's like, Oh, my dog attacked an alligator and then now we're
1:17:16
suddenly with Nikita. To be honest.
1:17:18
I wanna know where we in A room. That's how we wrote it.
1:17:20
That's why it sounds fucking ADHD.
1:17:22
There's no guitars on a swamp. You haven't told me the context.
1:17:26
Alright, so we're sitting there. We try and write guitars.
1:17:28
Yeah, and every time we, we, we, we rode the.
1:17:31
In the house. We we rode the rim or we rode
1:17:34
the half of the song. We go to swarm walking to.
1:17:37
Think and listen. To it and listen to it.
1:17:38
Listen to it. Listen to it.
1:17:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a bit of jiu jitsu and a bit
1:17:43
of jiu jitsu was going into there.
1:17:44
So at this point are they like you think jiu jitsu is gay?
1:17:47
Are you asking me? Yeah, I was rolling around with
1:17:49
my girlfriend last night fighting, and at the time it was
1:17:52
quite sexy. So I didn't say it right.
1:17:55
So I didn't say it, but in my head, it's funny enough you said
1:17:59
this and please, no one beat me up because you could definitely
1:18:01
kick my ass in my head last night.
1:18:04
Yeah, while we were fighting, I went.
1:18:06
Jiu jitsu is a bit gay. Yeah, and I love Jiu.
1:18:09
Jitsu because we. So see I.
1:18:16
Honestly, that's so weird because that was literally last
1:18:18
night and I was like, it's kind of like jiu jitsu kind of gay.
1:18:23
Anyway, no one beat me up because you definitely could
1:18:26
beat me up. So and then you write the songs
1:18:29
fully done before you go into the shooter.
1:18:31
We rewrite them like 10 * 10,000,000 times and like.
1:18:36
Demo Form program drums. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:18:40
Demo. Yeah, yeah.
1:18:41
Demo yeah, but we even even the guitars, like we try to get the
1:18:45
guitar tone. We're very specific.
1:18:47
We want the demos to capture the literal vibe.
1:18:49
We want 'cause, you know, some people like this, this tone will
1:18:52
do and do whatever for us to kind of capture like what we're
1:18:56
trying to do. Sometimes the demos actually
1:18:58
sound better than the album version because we're like, you
1:19:01
know, palm muted a little bit better.
1:19:03
All this is, you know, whatever it is, you know?
1:19:05
Yeah. But do you re record everything
1:19:07
or do you ever actually take stems from the demo?
1:19:10
So our producer, yeah, Igor, yeah, who we just start to work
1:19:13
on this album. He takes everything.
1:19:15
And sometimes he'll even rerecord a little part.
1:19:17
So he's like, he'll send me, like, send me this demo.
1:19:20
I never tune guitars while I write demos for some reason.
1:19:23
You never tune it so. For some reason.
1:19:25
He never cleaned his guitars. They're covered in blood.
1:19:28
I've seen them, yeah. Fucking cool guitar but.
1:19:31
How can you judge me? Right?
1:19:32
So yeah. And I will tune it at the start
1:19:35
of the writing session. And that's it.
1:19:37
Because I'm vibing, yeah. I can that would be maybe like.
1:19:40
Two years of this year. The strings are, yeah.
1:19:44
That would be me though. Like what do you mean I have to
1:19:46
do that after every take? Yeah, exactly right.
1:19:50
And, and especially for writing for me, I don't want to think
1:19:53
about tuning. I'm trying to think about
1:19:54
writing. Yeah.
1:19:55
And then sometimes our producer would be like, just send me the
1:19:58
demo guitars. I'm like, Are you sure it's out
1:20:00
of tuning? He's like, that's why it sounds
1:20:02
the way it sounds. So yeah, is.
1:20:03
He trying to find out guitar sounds like fucking nasty.
1:20:08
Yeah. Nasty.
1:20:09
Yeah. Like Rammstein first albums
1:20:12
fucking 6 sounds. Honest, son, Is that something?
1:20:20
There he is. He's got it.
1:20:23
Are you doing when you do the tail voice?
1:20:26
Yeah. I don't mean any.
1:20:27
It's a it's a nod to tail. Are you speaking in Russian or
1:20:30
German? Russian.
1:20:31
Russian. Yeah, Kind of South German,
1:20:33
because I don't know, Russian, kind of.
1:20:34
It's the same, same effect. What?
1:20:36
Yeah. The baby metal thing.
1:20:38
How did that come about? That was.
1:20:40
We played. Yeah, we played.
1:20:43
Resurrection. Resurrection Festival, Yeah.
1:20:45
And they just, yeah, they came up to us and asked for
1:20:49
calibration. Actually.
1:20:50
We was like, what? Wow, you probably know him.
1:20:53
You can't leak who's in Babymetal.
1:20:55
OK. Basically, someone from their
1:20:57
team, thank you, introduced us to Foxgod.
1:21:00
Who's Foxgod? You know what?
1:21:02
The Babymetal is very fucking mysterious bad.
1:21:05
Yeah, this is they like unique. Think about this bad.
1:21:12
They they they like very mysterious.
1:21:15
Nobody's knows much about characters, members know the
1:21:20
shit, so can we just keep that mysterious?
1:21:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically.
1:21:25
Just don't tell me who these people are.
1:21:27
No Simon. Edit out.
1:21:28
Any and I know what they will want to be so.
1:21:31
So one of them. Fox God.
1:21:34
Fox God, yeah. So that's just someone that's in
1:21:36
Babymetal. Yeah, yeah.
1:21:38
Sorry, I didn't want to know who they are specifically.
1:21:40
Like he he, he's like literally a main guy, no?
1:21:43
No. So the the fox God is the fox
1:21:46
God of the whole project, right. And he came up to us and we
1:21:49
would talk to Babymetal. Yeah, I would say the visionary.
1:21:52
He's not one of the three, no. No, no, no, no.
1:21:55
He's the fox God mate, Yeah. He's the fox man.
1:21:57
Yeah, the fox fucking God. Kicks in me.
1:22:00
Yeah. Kitson A.
1:22:02
Kitson A That's a that's. A girl is it Kitson A is a
1:22:04
female anyway. Anyway, yeah, so we basically
1:22:08
met him. He was a fan of our music and
1:22:12
obviously we were a fan of theirs and what they were doing.
1:22:14
And when we were talking about a collaboration and we just joined
1:22:17
the same management like at the same time.
1:22:21
So it was very. When I just sorry to.
1:22:23
Yeah. When I just found out about
1:22:26
Babymetal, it was like maybe 2012 or something like that.
1:22:30
I was like, what the? I remember this.
1:22:32
Grinch fucking I was a big fan of death cord that metal takes
1:22:38
everything serious and all this shit.
1:22:39
I was like, this is a joke, this is not metal.
1:22:42
What the fuck? And then I grew up.
1:22:45
Changed my mind a. Little you've done a lot of
1:22:46
growing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:22:50
And I was like, actually, this is sick.
1:22:52
Yeah, this is very good job. The more like anime I watch.
1:22:57
The more you I'm just getting. Into it.
1:22:59
I'm getting into it thanks to anime girl over there that.
1:23:03
Wasn't that wasn't Berserk? That wasn't racist.
1:23:06
I watched the OG Berserk but I haven't seen the new the.
1:23:11
This guy is the biggest berserk. I saw them making a model of
1:23:14
you. You're going to make a model.
1:23:15
You model the 3D model, you're. The bear.
1:23:18
Oh yeah, yeah. Figurine.
1:23:19
Yeah, that's fucking sick. Yeah, anyway.
1:23:20
Hey, Babymetal. Folks, God, right?
1:23:22
Congrats, that's fucking shit. Yeah.
1:23:24
Thank you. We're thinking about, yeah,
1:23:26
let's write a song together. It's gonna be like, cool.
1:23:29
We go on tour with Marilyn Manson.
1:23:31
Fivefinger and I bring a little studio set up with me.
1:23:35
And that's where we got Nikita, our video guy with us, right?
1:23:37
Yeah. So we're just sitting in the
1:23:38
hotel room between shows just writing.
1:23:41
And to be honest, this song we wrote in, like, it was like, 2.
1:23:45
Yeah. It was really fast.
1:23:46
It was like, I really like guitar pedals making fucked up
1:23:49
sounds and I can never remember what the settings are to be
1:23:51
honest, right? So I just made this fucked up
1:23:54
sound. Nikita has this idea about
1:23:57
rhythm. Then Alex comes in and Alex has
1:23:59
this ear. I would say from a listener
1:24:01
point of view, which is what's so valuable because he'd be like
1:24:04
what the fuck is this? This doesn't fucking.
1:24:05
Fly. It's not heavy or.
1:24:07
Yeah, or even like that sounds random.
1:24:10
Yeah, that sounds random. That's not meant to be there.
1:24:11
Whereas when you've overheard it kind of you become numb to
1:24:14
actually like the structure, right.
1:24:16
So all three of us just basically done it, send it to
1:24:20
him. He basically was like, can you
1:24:23
change maybe this small part, this small part.
1:24:25
And oh, and actually the cool thing is the 123 part came
1:24:29
because yeah, we the demo was called Rising Sun, right?
1:24:34
And he says Sun is 3 in Japanese.
1:24:38
Yeah. And he said he wanted a rhythm
1:24:40
that goes like 123-123-1231 'cause that's how they end
1:24:44
karate session. Itchy.
1:24:45
Itchy. Yeah.
1:24:46
Itchy, itchy. So that's why there's a part in
1:24:48
it that does it. There's a rhythm that follows
1:24:50
that and that's basically how the song came together.
1:24:53
They put vocals on it and he said he.
1:24:55
Said he said something about like not mafia but.
1:25:01
Yakuza. Yakuza.
1:25:02
They they, they, they have this. Fucking karate at the end of
1:25:07
every. Yeah, yeah, at the end of it.
1:25:09
The sensei does like that and everyone follow copies.
1:25:11
Oh really? Yeah.
1:25:12
And he sent this video. Probably in Yakuza as well.
1:25:14
Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah.
1:25:16
And the song's 3 minutes, 33 seconds long.
1:25:18
Love it when that happens. My favorite shit ever.
1:25:20
I love it when I buy something. It's 666.
1:25:23
I'm just a fucking loser. I just, I just fucking love now.
1:25:26
So then you send that full song and then it just magically comes
1:25:29
back with three girls. On it, to be honest, like a
1:25:31
fucking machine. Yeah, like it.
1:25:33
It made me feel bad about how unproductive I am because.
1:25:37
Professional. We we're like sitting months.
1:25:39
I mean, we did it in what September and we're talking
1:25:41
about with them since what June resurrection is, you know, we're
1:25:44
like. Do the video in Tokyo.
1:25:45
Yeah, we flew in there. We.
1:25:46
Flew there to do it. Fucking.
1:25:49
Mate, it was fucked, right? That's so.
1:25:51
It was amazing. Fucked.
1:25:52
It was sick. Mate, we were in Australia,
1:25:55
right? Yeah.
1:25:56
Flew 13 hours to yeah, Japan. Yeah.
1:25:59
Did 3 days of filming or two days of filming?
1:26:02
3 days. The next day flew 13 hours to
1:26:04
Mexico and then did a South American tour where we're flying
1:26:06
every other day. Yeah, that's rough.
1:26:08
That's fucked. Not as rough as getting punched
1:26:10
in the face a million times without a fucking glove on.
1:26:13
I was still throwing that over. That yeah, yeah, fair enough
1:26:16
Have you done South America the. Only place I haven't done it's
1:26:19
meant my band split up now so don't want to do.
1:26:21
Fuck, actually when I scream, like right now, I feel pain
1:26:25
because when, when, when you scream, it's just a high
1:26:28
pressure in your fucking head, right?
1:26:29
You've already got high pressure.
1:26:31
Yeah, and when I scream, it's just painful and I get like
1:26:35
angry on the stage. That's.
1:26:37
Cool, angrier than normal. Shit, double up on the end.
1:26:40
Yeah, yeah. You doing?
1:26:42
Are you all right now though? Is this cool?
1:26:43
Yeah. And you take.
1:26:44
A breath. It's fine.
1:26:45
Yeah, that's fine. I.
1:26:45
Don't talk about wrestling the fucking bear I know you've
1:26:47
talked about. Wrestling the bear.
1:26:49
It's just cuddling the bear. Where did wrestling come from
1:26:53
then? People talking I'm wrestling the
1:26:56
bear, but I just just try to fucking hold him.
1:27:01
Whose bear is it? One guy in Moscow, he.
1:27:03
Just he just has a bear, Yeah. And it and he's like a friendly
1:27:07
bear or. His name's Tom.
1:27:10
He's Tom. Tom, you don't know fucking.
1:27:11
Tom, I don't know. Tom's a bear.
1:27:13
Thomas Chill is far. Yeah, he's chill, but he's still
1:27:16
a bear, you know? Yeah, he's gonna fuck you up.
1:27:18
Yeah. So what, you can't you cuddle
1:27:21
this bear? I can tell you don't want to
1:27:22
talk about this, but there will be people that don't.
1:27:26
They'll just see. I thought you wrestled it.
1:27:29
I mean I tried to do some moves. You're like screaming at it and
1:27:33
it's screaming at you. Who, what you.
1:27:35
There's a bit, I'm sure there's a video of you going like, and
1:27:38
there's a fucking bear. Yes, you forget.
1:27:40
You forget what you've done. Yeah.
1:27:42
Do you, do you get shit for that?
1:27:44
Do people say that's animal cruelty?
1:27:46
Screaming. Probably screaming at a bear.
1:27:47
I have very bad memory OK which is good for me.
1:27:51
This is because I have a lot of like shit in my life.
1:27:55
This is what I wanted to do to end the podcast.
1:27:57
OK, so I thought you fought the bear, so that's my bad right?
1:28:02
But what? I've got a list of animals.
1:28:04
I want to know if if which you would rather fight.
1:28:07
Like Bentnacle. However you want.
1:28:10
With the weapon knives. No, it's got to be hands, Hands
1:28:14
on. OK, Alex the Terrible.
1:28:17
Would you rather fight a bear or a tiger?
1:28:21
Not that bear a bear. Wild bear.
1:28:25
Yeah, yeah, of course. Serious.
1:28:27
This is supposed to be a funny bear.
1:28:29
Because I wrestle tigers as well.
1:28:34
No, this, this is the Scar Tiger.
1:28:36
But you've actually wrestled a tiger.
1:28:37
Yeah, this car. Now you're a green.
1:28:40
It's wrestling, by the way. Yeah, OK.
1:28:43
So Bear. Or Tiger.
1:28:44
OK, OK. I would say, Tiger, I have more
1:28:49
chance you've got. Tiger.
1:28:51
Even more chance to get the tiger.
1:28:52
OK then. So tiger or an Anaconda?
1:28:55
Anaconda is a. Snake.
1:28:56
The biggest constrictor snake that there is.
1:28:59
In the water. Yeah, let's go water.
1:29:02
Yeah, no chance. OK, so still a tiger?
1:29:04
Yeah. OK, a tiger or 1000 bees?
1:29:08
1000 what? Bees.
1:29:10
Bees. 1000 Bees or a tiger? I'll die because of fucking one.
1:29:15
Bees fucking. Beat me.
1:29:17
Are you? What are you allergic?
1:29:18
No, no, no, no, just because I hate fucking.
1:29:21
You just got punched in the face a million times while I'm.
1:29:24
Man. OK, so thousand bees or a tiger?
1:29:27
Tiger. OK, 1000 Wasps or.
1:29:33
Dude one time I drove a bike with the fucking.
1:29:38
Madison's dying. With the with the wife beat the
1:29:42
tank. Yeah, and helmet, it was
1:29:46
summertime in Russia and I was driving my fucking beautiful
1:29:48
bike, right? And then I feel something on my
1:29:51
back, like some fucking something, right?
1:29:55
And I was like, what the fuck is that?
1:29:57
So I squeeze it and I feel this like, like, I feel it.
1:30:03
I let it off. I, I, I let it out like, oh, you
1:30:07
fucking let it go. Let it go, let it go.
1:30:10
Bam again. I fucking squeeze it again and
1:30:13
fucking. Hard and I just.
1:30:15
Won feel it and I feel it. It's just like, let it go again,
1:30:19
bam bam again it. Was 1000 it?
1:30:23
Was a wasp. It was a wasp.
1:30:24
OK, so. Tiger.
1:30:26
No, this is a different question.
1:30:28
Tiger's out now you beat tiger. OK 1000 Wasps or 1B the size of
1:30:35
a child. Did I'm afraid of box spiders?
1:30:42
Yeah, bees. Would you rather?
1:30:44
1000 Wasps or one bee as big as Madison.
1:30:49
Fuck with the you got no knives. No, no, it's just hands you.
1:30:53
Could fuck up a bee. A big bee.
1:30:54
Yeah, I think. So you could fuck.
1:30:56
It's only got 1 Stinger, you just gotta get that fucking.
1:30:59
Gone. Is it female or male?
1:31:00
You're gonna see if you can fuck it, wank it off.
1:31:05
If it's a male bee, I'll just. Because male, male bee, I
1:31:08
believe male bees, doesn't they? Don't.
1:31:12
Sting. Oh, OK.
1:31:12
It's whatever saying whatever. Stings.
1:31:15
It's a size of a small child. Queen bee.
1:31:17
Queen bee. Yeah.
1:31:18
No, no, no. It's a 1000 Wasps, or it's one
1:31:21
stinging bee the size of a small child.
1:31:24
Probably Bee. The big, the big one.
1:31:26
OK, 400 small children or one man the size of a child but he
1:31:37
has scissors for hands. Scissors.
1:31:40
Like Edward Scissorhands children.
1:31:42
Scissorhands says what one fully grown man?
1:31:45
Madison's dying fully grown man but he's like 3 foot tall with
1:31:49
scissors for hands shit or 400 kids fight to the death.
1:31:55
Probably this guy with the scissors because this actually
1:32:00
very bad for him. Yeah.
1:32:02
You know, it's, it's not like you're holding a knife.
1:32:06
Yeah. But he might be really good.
1:32:07
He's been doing that his whole life.
1:32:09
Remember, He's what strength. Does he have the strength of a
1:32:11
grown man or the child he How strong is it?
1:32:15
Haven't thought that much. Because that makes the
1:32:18
difference. You could.
1:32:19
Just no. He He is.
1:32:20
He is, he is. It's a small man man strength,
1:32:25
but smaller, less leverages. I could take him.
1:32:27
I think you could too if you you just kick him.
1:32:30
Yeah, exactly. Kick through the scissors
1:32:32
anyway. And then the last one.
1:32:34
I have Martins. Do you think you would win in a
1:32:38
fight against Harambe? Who?
1:32:41
Harambe the the gorilla? Remember from the memes he died
1:32:44
tragically. Remember the one 2013 Harambe?
1:32:49
What? A kid came into his enclosure
1:32:51
and they killed. The zoo.
1:32:52
The kid jumped into the zoo and Harambe caressed him.
1:32:55
He's a famous gorilla. He's a famous gorilla, yeah.
1:32:59
He's loved by many, so he's. Beloved.
1:33:01
Yeah. Beloved.
1:33:02
RIP. We don't need another scandal.
1:33:04
Yeah, so. Wait, why he died?
1:33:06
Because a a child went into the enclosure.
1:33:09
But he didn't. He didn't.
1:33:11
Do anything. And they killed him.
1:33:13
Yeah, I know. So you wouldn't fight Harambe?
1:33:15
Humanity is trash. Yeah, I I agree.
1:33:19
OK, so this guy. Just just him.
1:33:22
Would you fight? No.
1:33:23
No fight. No.
1:33:25
What about now? Because he is dead.
1:33:26
He's reanimated. Zombie Harambee.
1:33:31
OK, if Harambee's going for your dog, between Harambee and your
1:33:35
dog is you, what you doing? This man ask me asking me
1:33:40
fucking stupid questions all the time.
1:33:43
Would you rather have 80s fucking dollars each month or
1:33:47
live without lags or something stupid shit like that?
1:33:51
Every single fucking time. OK, would you rather have
1:33:57
literally unlimited drum skill? Like nothing's out of bounds,
1:34:00
right? But you have it for just three
1:34:03
years, and after three years you basically you're fucked.
1:34:06
You can't play drums at all. Or would you rather that every
1:34:09
six months your drum skill goes down by 5%?
1:34:13
First one, yeah. I was so stoked when my band
1:34:16
split up. Like, I fucking can't be
1:34:18
bothered, boys. Really.
1:34:19
I hate it. I hate going on tour.
1:34:21
I hate. To be honest, I don't like Tour.
1:34:24
Well, I love. I love being.
1:34:26
Like I like playing shows we. Were doing it quite
1:34:28
uncomfortably and it's like I'm 38 now and it's like I'm still
1:34:31
sometimes I'm in a van for fucking 16 hours.
1:34:35
There's multiple countries that we're not big enough to do it on
1:34:38
a bus and I'm like, I'm just fucking done with it.
1:34:41
So I would take that first option and I'll probably record
1:34:44
3 albums and then I'll be like peace.
1:34:46
I'm just doing a fucking podcast because that's what I'm doing
1:34:49
now. That's what I'm doing now.
1:34:50
Yeah, but imagine you're living the rest of your life knowing
1:34:53
what it was like to play like that.
1:34:55
That's what I'm doing right now, yeah.
1:34:56
But you're. Still fucking playing drums.
1:34:58
You're fucking still sick of drums.
1:35:00
Once in the last week, really pick up a guitar.
1:35:02
Don't give up, I might. Why?
1:35:04
Because I'm, I'm a baby. I mean, I need to be on a bus.
1:35:08
I need 3 grand a week minimum. I need that's it.
1:35:12
That's all I want. Give me 3 grand a week to be on
1:35:14
tour and put me on a bus and I'll do it for the rest of my
1:35:16
fucking life. But the minute that drops down
1:35:18
or like, oh, we don't have a drum tech on this tour, I'd
1:35:21
rather fucking suck my dad's Dick.
1:35:23
OK, so would you rather go on tour or suck your dad's Dick?
1:35:28
There you go. Go on tour without a drum tech.
1:35:31
Yeah, or suck your dad's Dick. I mean, now this is on the
1:35:34
record. I'm going to have to pick go on
1:35:36
tour. No, you just said you'd rather.
1:35:39
Yeah, but now you've given it to me as if you're like some sort
1:35:42
of gin or a genie that's going to actually grant it.
1:35:45
And now looking at it in the cold light of day, I think I'd
1:35:48
rather go on tour. And that's the end of the
1:35:51
podcast. Thanks, guys.
1:35:53
Thanks for coming. Thank you.
1:35:54
Thank you. OK, we're back.
1:35:56
OK. We're back.
1:35:57
Fine. Wait, wait.
1:35:58
Can I, can I? First off, we're back because we
1:36:02
were setting up and then someone else came out and I, you know,
1:36:08
can I say my piece first or you want to say it?
1:36:10
1st we need to set first. Before we go here on the on this
1:36:14
podcast, Adam, our manager, he said to me, he said you should
1:36:20
Will Smith, you keep our drummer's name out of your
1:36:25
mouth. He.
1:36:28
Wanted you to fucking. He said that.
1:36:30
I'd have fucking died. Hey.
1:36:33
Oh, my mum, He actually said that.
1:36:35
Yeah, literally. Well, we've got to be careful,
1:36:38
right? Because I did a whole podcast
1:36:39
with that pussy out there, me and him, and then he asked for
1:36:43
it to get deleted off the fucking Internet.
1:36:45
So yeah, fuck you. Well, don't.
1:36:47
He's one of my best friends. But anyway.
1:36:50
Let's set the tone. Our drama is very not happy with
1:36:53
you. OK, very not happy.
1:36:56
Well, he obviously didn't watch all the videos because what
1:36:58
happened? He said he watched enough.
1:37:00
OK so that's it. OK so so and I will fucking
1:37:03
defend this. I'm so glad this came up.
1:37:06
You guys used to post on your channel videos of your drama
1:37:10
playing, but it wasn't the real fucking audio.
1:37:13
It was the album audio, and it was edited, right?
1:37:17
It was a drum playthrough, but it wasn't a playthrough.
1:37:19
Yeah, So I watched those videos and I was like, this isn't
1:37:23
fucking real because I can't hear what he's fucking doing,
1:37:25
you know, because you didn't show me.
1:37:28
So I was like, this isn't fucking real.
1:37:29
And I was like, and I also in those videos, like I gassed up
1:37:34
the music. I don't know if you watch those
1:37:35
videos. You fan of the Bubble Your girl
1:37:37
video? Yeah, respect it, right?
1:37:39
Loved it. I love learning that people.
1:37:41
You did say the drums weren't great, but you know, respect on
1:37:43
the video, no? If you go to the show tonight,
1:37:47
our drama will be fucking stressed.
1:37:50
You will. You gotta come tonight and you
1:37:52
gotta stand and. Probably he will fuck this this
1:37:56
part of the most show up probably.
1:37:58
Well, no. Here's the thing.
1:38:00
Here's the thing, I I have a problem.
1:38:04
I have a problem as a drummer with like a perception being put
1:38:08
out of like infallible, like amazing drummers.
1:38:12
So I watched those those playthroughs and I was like,
1:38:14
well, this is the album audio, right?
1:38:15
So I don't know if this drummer is good.
1:38:17
And admittedly, I probably made some fucking jokes and then, and
1:38:21
I always wanted to fucking know if it was because of my video.
1:38:24
He put out a video in the practice room.
1:38:27
Oh really, man of. Him and it just camera audio and
1:38:30
he's fucking killing it. Touch this feeling.
1:38:32
I, I did a video on that video and I was like, this guy's
1:38:36
fucking sick. It's too late.
1:38:38
He didn't watch that. I'm sorry, it's too late, He.
1:38:41
Did he did. And all joking aside, I actually
1:38:43
love those videos. You gotta bring them back.
1:38:45
No, they're fucking amazing thing.
1:38:47
I have killed the fake drummer. Yeah, because they're not doing
1:38:51
it. So I can't bring it back because
1:38:52
no ones doing it because all. About that fucking Mario guy,
1:38:55
what his name is? Yeah, he's trying to sue me
1:38:57
fucking because I did a video on.
1:38:58
Him a guy called Mario. Ricardo Merlini, you can't say
1:39:02
the R. Word mate, first of all.
1:39:05
Keep it in. No, Yeah, the the the Italian
1:39:09
guy. What do you think about the
1:39:11
infant and the later drama? He can't play it either.
1:39:14
No. And that's, and I think that was
1:39:16
my original thing. I was like, show me a video
1:39:18
where he's playing it and I will eat my fucking words.
1:39:20
But like I don't like. WWE.
1:39:23
Wrestling. WWE.
1:39:24
So right now I like it because it's it's kind of fake.
1:39:28
But to trust me, it's fucking difficult.
1:39:31
Make all this tricks and shit, it's fucking tough.
1:39:34
So that's kind of how I feel about a drum playthrough.
1:39:37
I'm like, I am entertained. However, I know you didn't learn
1:39:42
that punch. Like, do you know what I mean?
1:39:43
Like, and I apologize to your drummer, but I do remember I, I
1:39:48
made a video because he made a video in the practice room and I
1:39:52
was like, this guys actually fucking shredding.
1:39:53
Yeah, I did actually see that and I think I.
1:39:55
Titled it Slaughter to Prevail. Drummer can actually play the
1:39:58
drum, yeah. So I remember speaking to him
1:40:01
about it and I said that's all good, Like, you know, you spoke
1:40:03
good, he said. Yeah.
1:40:05
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, he didn't do that.
1:40:08
Did he say it's too late? He said it's too late.
1:40:10
That. Damage has been done.
1:40:11
How hard is he on a level of 0 to you?
1:40:15
Right, get that thing out again about the thousand 1000 watts
1:40:19
and Jenya Novikov, is he? Joking.
1:40:21
Is he nails? Is he fucking?
1:40:23
He's a sweet guy. Yeah, he's a sweet guy.
1:40:25
Oh, joking aside, there's no bad blood.
1:40:28
It's just Foster fucking. I'm glad that came up though.
1:40:31
Yeah. Anyway, thanks.
1:40:33
Thank you.