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49ers - Seahawks Matchup, Zach Wilson Promoted to Backup QB, & Mike Renner Joins The Show to Talk Jalen Hurts, Plus More · NFL Now

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Speaker 1: NFL Now is a production of the NFL in partnership
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Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. The Bills, the Chiefs, the Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: the Vikings, and the forty Niners. There are five teams
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Speaker 1: that have clinching scenarios in week fifteen. The last I
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Speaker 1: mentioned there the forty Niners could actually wrap up the
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Speaker 1: NFC West coming up tomorrow. We have all those scenarios
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Speaker 1: coming up in this hour of NFL Now on NFL Network.
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Speaker 1: From our newsroom in Los Angeles, my name is Andrew Ceciliano.
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Speaker 1: Let's go live to the league meeting in Dallas. Not
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Speaker 1: for debating whether or not roughing the passers should be reviewable.
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Speaker 1: We'll say that for later. The unter wrap repoort Tom
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Speaker 1: Pella Sero. Let's talk quarterbacks here. The Jets do not
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Speaker 1: have a clinching scenario tom to try to get back
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Speaker 1: in to a playoffs slot. They get the Lions on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: What's going on in Flora Park with their quarterbacks? Well, Andrew,
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Speaker 1: the Jets continue to move forward as if Mike White
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Speaker 1: somehow is going to start after taking those lacious hits
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Speaker 1: in last week's game twice, leaving getting himself back in
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Speaker 1: teammates and coach Robert Salt had praised Mike White for
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Speaker 1: his toughness. He underwent a battery of tests, all of
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Speaker 1: which left them encouraged. They consider him to be day today.
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Speaker 1: He is going to be limited in practice for today.
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Speaker 1: The real news though, coming out of the Jets headquarters
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Speaker 1: who's going to be the backup quarterback assuming that Mike
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Speaker 1: White does play. It's this week going to be Zach Wilson,
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Speaker 1: who will be in uniform for the first time since
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Speaker 1: he was benched several weeks ago amidst significant issues with
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Speaker 1: accuracy with his mechanics. They wanted him to reset. Now
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Speaker 1: he has been getting work in practice, mainly reps after
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Speaker 1: practice of what they call their flight school, running all
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Speaker 1: the same places they run in practice, but he does
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Speaker 1: it with some of the practice squad guys and others.
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Speaker 1: So Rob Calabariz, who's the quarterbacks coach, spent a lot
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Speaker 1: of time with them. Michael Floor had spent time with
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Speaker 1: him well, and now Zack Wilson is perhaps one more
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Speaker 1: hit away potentially for rom actually getting back onto the
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Speaker 1: field for the Jets, okay, and that would be against
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Speaker 1: the Lions. Meantime, Desmond Ritter is getting on the field
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Speaker 1: for the first time since the preseason, at least taking
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Speaker 1: legitimate snaps here coming up on Sunday Ian As he
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Speaker 1: is the new quarterback for the Falcons. What's going on
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Speaker 1: though with the guy he's replacing, Marcus Mariotta. Well, there
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Speaker 1: are two separate things here going on for the Atlanta Falcons. One,
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Speaker 1: Desmond rid Of, the rookie really promising third round are
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Speaker 1: gonna come in and start for the Falcons. That decision
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Speaker 1: was made regardless of any other injury situation. And then
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Speaker 1: there's Marcus Mariota, who was benched after starting for the
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Speaker 1: balance of the season, informed the Atlanta Falcons that he
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Speaker 1: had a need that he was gonna get checked out.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have knee surgery to clean up what is
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Speaker 1: being termed as a chronic knee issue. Obviously hasn't uh
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Speaker 1: apparently has bothered him. We did not know about this
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Speaker 1: until recently. Gon have knee surgery on I are his
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Speaker 1: season is over, and obviously there's some questions concerned about
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Speaker 1: whether he's even gonna be around the team. I know
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Speaker 1: they would like him to be around. I know it
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Speaker 1: is extremely rare, very veteran to just not be around
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Speaker 1: the team, especially when he could be mentoring a young quarterback.
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Speaker 1: But that, I guess seems to be the situation for
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Speaker 1: Mariota and the Falcons. Okay, Marcus Mariota not with the
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Speaker 1: team as he's getting that knee checked out and having
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Speaker 1: surgery and what is a chronic issue. Meantime, Tom Let's
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Speaker 1: get to the Bears and the Eagles here. The Eagles
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Speaker 1: are the one team that are in that is already in.
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Speaker 1: The Bears have already been eliminated in the whole idea
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Speaker 1: of Justin Fields against Jalen Hurts would be fun. Um,
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Speaker 1: we know Hurts is going to be there. What's field
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Speaker 1: situation for Sunday? Andrew Justin Fields not practicing today because
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Speaker 1: of an illness, but Bears coach Matt eber Flew said
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Speaker 1: that they believe he's going to be fine and be
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Speaker 1: able to play on Sunday. There's been a lot of
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Speaker 1: that going around the NFL, different teams dealing with the illness.
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Speaker 1: Is obviously never ideal, particularly for a young quarterback to
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Speaker 1: misreps during the week, but does not sound like there's
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of cause for concern, which of course
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Speaker 1: is good news, not just for the Bears. But oh,
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Speaker 1: thousands of people around the country who may or may
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Speaker 1: not have fantasy playoffs or a final regular season fantasy
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Speaker 1: game coming up this weekend. Sounds like Justin Fields. It
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Speaker 1: has been as good as anybody over the last two
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Speaker 1: months since I cut him off my team, UH should
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Speaker 1: be out there. Okay, you cut Justin Fields? Fascinating Ian.
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Speaker 1: Do you have Dallas Goddard on you need a rosters No?
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Speaker 1: I have Travis Kelsey on my fantasy team, maybe the
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Speaker 1: most dominant tight ended fantasy history. Help me take the
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Speaker 1: lead here. I'm gonna be in number one seed for
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But Dallas Goddard is still extremely relevant for
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Speaker 1: the other people who have him on their fantasy team,
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Speaker 1: specifically those who put him on ire hoping he would
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Speaker 1: return to practice. He has now officially returned to practice
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Speaker 1: his twenty one day windows open for the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 1: The Eagles, who are among the best teams in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: have as good a record as anyone, and now have
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Speaker 1: one of their best players, Dallas Goddard, coming back this
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Speaker 1: week and practical see if he's able to play UH
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Speaker 1: this weekend, But either way, help is on the way
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Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Eagles, not that they need it right.
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Speaker 1: For the record, I have Brock Purdy on my fantasy
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Speaker 1: team and he helped lead the Clowns do a huge
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Speaker 1: victory this past Sunday. There you go, Tom and fingers crossed.
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Speaker 1: The brock Purty Clowns. Well, it's the Clowns. It's actually no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no. The full name of the team is taken
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Speaker 1: second reference of the show from Office Space. Taken from
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Speaker 1: Office Space. So if remember the movie, it's actually a
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Speaker 1: much longer name. It's the No Talent Clowns. If you will, um, yeah, yes,
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Speaker 1: So here's hoping brock pretty plays tomorrow. Got it? Okay? Name? No,
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Speaker 1: it's a great name, and they're amazing. It's really a
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Speaker 1: very beating name. I think it's a great name. Thank
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Speaker 1: you Tom, Thank you Ian. Brock Purty should be good
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Speaker 1: to go. We we we hope he hasn't really practiced
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Speaker 1: much because well they're not really practicing. It's a Thursday
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Speaker 1: game here, obviously, the Seahawks and the Nighters coming up tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: The Nighters can wrap up the NFC West with a
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Speaker 1: win on Thursday Night football. This is a rematch. If
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Speaker 1: you people remember, do you remember I think so from
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Speaker 1: week two this is going down as the game that
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Speaker 1: will be remembering the game in which Trey Lance got hurt.
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Speaker 1: It happened here in the first quarter out of design
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Speaker 1: quarterback Ron He broke his ankle. He was carted off
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Speaker 1: the field and since then it has been Jimmy Garoppolo
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Speaker 1: all the way for the forty Niners until he got
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Speaker 1: hurt and Brock Purdy had to come in. But Garoppolo
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Speaker 1: got through this game. Here's a touchdown to Ross Dwelly,
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Speaker 1: a thirty eight yard score. The Niners were going to
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Speaker 1: win this thing to seven. And now the rematch. If
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan could take his team to Seattle and beat
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks tomorrow night, they win the NFC West going
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Speaker 1: into Seattle. Let you tell anyone on the road, but Seattle,
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Speaker 1: I think, Um, you know, I don't think I've ever
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Speaker 1: been anywhere louder than They're just and we know how
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Speaker 1: their fans are, we know how that stadium is. You've
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Speaker 1: got to be ready for. You can't expect to hear
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Speaker 1: not just at the line of scrimmage, but also in
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Speaker 1: the huddle a number of times. And um, it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a big difference playing there. They make it hard.
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Speaker 1: Only you know they don't uh, you know, they don't
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Speaker 1: do too many crazy things. They just like to play
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Speaker 1: art and making a physical style game. And you know
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Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be fun for us. You know, we
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Speaker 1: get an opportunity the second time around to see what
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Speaker 1: we can do, see what they could do, try to
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Speaker 1: even things out here with the forty Niners and hold
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Speaker 1: off those Niners from winning the NFC West for the
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Speaker 1: first time since twenty nine. To get brock pretty status
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Speaker 1: is up in the air. We'll find out a little
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Speaker 1: bit more tomorrow. Get an official injury designation coming up
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Speaker 1: later this afternoon. All my Ruiz back with made the
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Speaker 1: desk rate to have you one more to talk about
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Speaker 1: this one. Brock pretty played well last week against a
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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles defense on a short week that had to
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Speaker 1: travel cross country. Again, it's a short week here, it's
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Speaker 1: a road game for Pretty against a different Pete Carroll defense. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: brock Pretty one of the great stories in the NFL
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Speaker 1: this season. So much excitement for tomorrow, and I think
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Speaker 1: he's done nothing but give the forty Niners reason for
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Speaker 1: justification on all the confidence that they've expressed in him,
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Speaker 1: But obviously there are questions that remain on how sustainable
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Speaker 1: all this success has been. You mentioned the short week
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Speaker 1: now playing on a Thursday night, fighting through an injury,
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Speaker 1: preparing his body and mentally for his first road game.
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Speaker 1: There's the challenge of the environment playing at Seattle, one
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Speaker 1: of the more hostile places to play in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: You heard Kyle Shanahan say it, and there you you
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Speaker 1: said it. One of the great football defensive minds of
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Speaker 1: this generation, Pete Carroll, going up against that defense, even
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Speaker 1: though they haven't been at their best necessarily this season.
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Speaker 1: Always play the forty Niners tough, so brock Purty will
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Speaker 1: be challenged in multiple ways, in ways that he hasn't
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Speaker 1: been challenged so far in this young career of his.
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Speaker 1: Should be exciting to see that in primetime tomorrow night.
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Speaker 1: Also a challenge for Geno Smith against what the Niners
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Speaker 1: bring in, which is the number one defense in football.
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Speaker 1: Gino hasn't had much of a running game, a lot
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Speaker 1: of injuries in the backfield a couple of weeks as
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Speaker 1: well a lot more on his shoulders. You mentioned the
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Speaker 1: lack of a running game here, as ken Walker has
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Speaker 1: been banged up in. Geno Smith was asked, is he
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Speaker 1: trying to create more game uh, game breaking downfield throws
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Speaker 1: over the last few weeks, trying to get more on
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Speaker 1: his shoulders, and he said no, He's still just taking
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Speaker 1: what the defense gives him. But he has had seven
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Speaker 1: games in a row where he has multiple touchdowns, pretty
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Speaker 1: long streak. But he is coming off his first game
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Speaker 1: of the season where he had multiple interceptions. He said
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Speaker 1: he has to maintain his aggressiveness but obviously minimize those mistakes.
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Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator Shane Waldron said they have all the faith
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Speaker 1: in the world, all the faith in their hearts specifically,
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Speaker 1: is what he said about Geno Smith to continue to
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Speaker 1: play at that once time m v P level earlier
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Speaker 1: this season. Obviously, you're gonna look to continue to ride
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Speaker 1: the hot hand of Tyler Lockett, who has a touchdown
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Speaker 1: in six straight games, right the hot hand of DK Metcalf,
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Speaker 1: the birthday boy today, Happy birthday, d K. He's had
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Speaker 1: five and more catches in six straight games. So it
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Speaker 1: might come down to that pass game if they still
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Speaker 1: can't get that run game going for the Seahawks Andrew
9:55
Speaker 1: it's DK Metcalf's birthday. It's also you know who else
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Speaker 1: has a birthday today? La Kwon Joe in research. Can't
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Speaker 1: see him on the screen, does a tremendous It was
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Speaker 1: all Mars birthday Sunday. It was my birthday on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Had a great weekend. Yeah, all right, how about that.
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Speaker 1: You're watching NFL now, NFL Network. Some updates on the
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks here. Moments ago, Nathaniel Hackett said Russell Wilson will
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Speaker 1: not practice today. He's still in concussion protocol. If he
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Speaker 1: can't go, it's gonna be Bret ripping for the Broncos.
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Speaker 1: There were four oh five Eastern time kicks Sunday against
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Meantime, we are waiting for an official
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Speaker 1: injury designation here on brock Purdy. All these estimates well
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Speaker 1: that they're estimates. It's a short week, but he is
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Speaker 1: limited with an oblique and rib injury as we get
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Speaker 1: ready for the forty Niners and hopefully brock Purdy trying
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Speaker 1: to wrap up the NFC West tomorrow night in Seattle
10:56
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks on Thursday night. Football Hall of Famer
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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner joints us every Wednesday's great to have him
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Speaker 1: in his quarterback room, Kurt, what do you what do
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Speaker 1: you think think about what brock Party did last week?
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Speaker 1: I liked what the young guy did. Andrew. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: he didn't blow you out of the water. He didn't
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Speaker 1: put up staggering numbers, but made the throws and the
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Speaker 1: decisions he was supposed to make, made a couple of
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Speaker 1: big throws for touchdowns. I thought he did a great
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Speaker 1: job against pressure when he had pressure in his face,
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Speaker 1: being able to make some plays in those types of situations.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he does a really good job of
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Speaker 1: playing on schedule. Um, you know, not the biggest guy,
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Speaker 1: not the strongest arm, so a big part of his
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Speaker 1: game is knowing what he's looking at and getting the
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Speaker 1: ball out on time. And I thought he did those
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Speaker 1: things as well. And that's all you were looking for
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Speaker 1: with the team that's built around him. Make the layups,
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Speaker 1: you know, do what you're capable of doing. You don't
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Speaker 1: have to do anything extra, you don't have to try
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Speaker 1: to make a bunch of big plays. That's what he
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Speaker 1: did last week and they got a huge win because
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Speaker 1: of it. Huge win because of it. And if he
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Speaker 1: could lead his team to another win, assuming he is
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Speaker 1: healthy and plays tomorrow, night in prime time in Seattle
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Speaker 1: against the Seahawks team fighting for the post us and
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Speaker 1: I think we'd even be more impressed. Kurt, You're gonna
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Speaker 1: be on our air on Saturday. You and Rich called
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Speaker 1: the Browns and the Bengals right here on NFL Network. Now,
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Speaker 1: you've looked at a lot of Deshaun Watson tape. Um.
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Speaker 1: He made more throws last week, certainly than he did
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Speaker 1: week one. But but everything that you said about brock Purty, Um,
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Speaker 1: it seems to be the opposite with DeShawn. Like it's
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Speaker 1: not fast. It seems like it's an effort almost on
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Speaker 1: every drop back. Yeah, I mean, I don't think any
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Speaker 1: of us really understand what it's like to take seven
12:37
Speaker 1: hundred days off between playing in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: And you have to give respect to the game and
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Speaker 1: to the players on the other side and the schemes
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Speaker 1: that you're seeing that it can't be easy to get
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Speaker 1: behind center and be able to to see everything and
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Speaker 1: be acclimated to the speed of the game. And that's
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Speaker 1: really what I think I've seen in the first two weeks.
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Speaker 1: The first week, it just looked like the game was
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Speaker 1: going way too fast for him. Technique was off, even
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Speaker 1: when he was trying to buy time that the throws
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Speaker 1: were going into the ground. I thought he settled in
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Speaker 1: more this past week, and so yeah, I think that's
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Speaker 1: what you're hoping for, is uh, you know, you can
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Speaker 1: get some wins while he's getting comfortable again, and that
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Speaker 1: at some point here down the stretch, especially if they
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Speaker 1: can stay in this playoff mix, he can become the
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson that we all you know, saw in Houston
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Speaker 1: and the big playmaker that you brought him in to
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Speaker 1: be um. But but it's gonna take some time. I
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Speaker 1: think we all knew it was gonna take some time.
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Speaker 1: And right now there are some struggles going on in
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Speaker 1: their past game real quick here, and not to replay
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Speaker 1: the game, but there were throws that seemingly Jacoby Brissette
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Speaker 1: would have seen and would have made. Did you see
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Speaker 1: that too last week? Well? Yeah, I mean, first of all,
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Speaker 1: Jacoby played some really really good football when he was
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Speaker 1: in there, uh, starting caliber football when he was playing
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Speaker 1: for the Browns, um you know, So that's where it starts.
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, when you look at the last two weeks,
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Speaker 1: do I think Jacoby Brissette would have played better than
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, no question. I think in both of the
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Speaker 1: games he would have played better. But you had to
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Speaker 1: know this going in. You can't just you know it's
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Speaker 1: not going to be seamless. So you've got to figure out, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we got to insert him. We gotta go through our
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Speaker 1: growing pains, and hopefully we can stay in this thing
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Speaker 1: long enough for him to get back up to speed
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Speaker 1: and and be the guy we want him to be
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Speaker 1: at some point this year. But yeah, I don't think
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Speaker 1: there's any question most people would think, uh, jacoble percent
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Speaker 1: would have played better these past couple of weeks than
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Speaker 1: de Shaun Watson. Not trying to suggest that every team
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Speaker 1: has with the forty Niners, have a speed at linebacker
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Speaker 1: to take away all those in breaking routes, or every
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Speaker 1: team can pull off what Brandon Staley's game plan was
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Speaker 1: this past Sunday. But Kurt on tape, do you think
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Speaker 1: that teams have caught up to the Dolphins offense? Well? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean caught up I think is a big word.
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Speaker 1: Do Do I think that there's a book out on
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Speaker 1: what the Miami Dolphins like to do? Yes, they like
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Speaker 1: to attack inside, you know, in between the numbers, Okay,
14:55
Speaker 1: no secret. So now defenses are going to try to
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Speaker 1: counter that with doing things like uh, you know Bred
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Speaker 1: and Staley did this past week and jamming them with
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and making it hard not free releases, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, doing some things where we're attacking the middle
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Speaker 1: of the field and trying to force throws outside. But
15:11
Speaker 1: every good offense goes through this is that you do
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Speaker 1: things really really well. Defenses counter that, and then the
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Speaker 1: cat and mouse is, Okay, they're gonna do this, and
15:19
Speaker 1: we've got to do that, and we've got to show
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Speaker 1: that we're capable of doing that. That's what Mike McDaniels,
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Speaker 1: That's what to a tongue volo are is gonna have
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Speaker 1: to do, is that they're gonna have to show their
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Speaker 1: capable of using the entire field and doing the things
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Speaker 1: that they did earlier in the season late in the season,
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Speaker 1: whether they can do what they want to do or
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Speaker 1: they've got to counter it all right and real quick.
15:38
Speaker 1: In your backyard, do you fear that when Kyler Murray
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Speaker 1: comes back some of that electricity, Like, are we gonna
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Speaker 1: get the same Kyler Murray when he comes back next year? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think we all fear that, you know, when it's
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Speaker 1: such a huge part of your game, and not just
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Speaker 1: a huge part of your game, but but he is
15:57
Speaker 1: such a unique you know, being that he's different than
16:02
Speaker 1: most guys that we have playing the position. You know, him,
16:04
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. They're rare that they're the best athlete on
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Speaker 1: the field. They're they're the best athlete, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: going against the greatest athletes in the world. And so
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Speaker 1: do you have a kny injury like this, you wonder
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Speaker 1: will he be able to come back and do everything
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Speaker 1: that he was capable of doing before the injury, And
16:22
Speaker 1: so I think that's a huge concern for everybody. The
16:25
Speaker 1: great thing to me about Kyler Murray though, is he's
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Speaker 1: a very, very gifted passer and so he's not stuck
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Speaker 1: to just having to be an athlete. He can throw
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Speaker 1: the football extremely well. Also, all right, I misspoke earlier.
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Speaker 1: I said Brown's Bengals this week. Obviously that was last week.
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Speaker 1: You're getting Brown's Ravens coming up Saturday on NFL Network.
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Speaker 1: The only question here that people in l A want
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Speaker 1: to know in the news room want to o Kurd
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Speaker 1: is it's gonna be called mid twenties in Cleveland. Are
16:49
Speaker 1: you going to bust out the puffy jacket? Does it
16:53
Speaker 1: make its national television return on Saturday? Well, I tell
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Speaker 1: you what, Andrew, people are gonna have to tune in.
17:02
Speaker 1: I've got two games to TV games in cold Weather
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Speaker 1: City is the next two weeks. So there's a pretty
17:07
Speaker 1: good chance at the puppy Jacket makes an appearance. The
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Speaker 1: question is just will it be this week? Will it
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Speaker 1: be next week? I'm not sure I've really decided that yet,
17:16
Speaker 1: but uh, but stay tuned because it will probably you know,
17:19
Speaker 1: it'll probably go nuts on Twitter and it'll probably make
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Speaker 1: an appearance again. Could you get one for Rich too?
17:24
Speaker 1: If you do it this week? Oh? That would that
17:27
Speaker 1: would be fun? Do you think Rich would do? You
17:29
Speaker 1: think Rich would go with it? You think he'd he
17:31
Speaker 1: double up with me if we both had big silver
17:33
Speaker 1: puppy jackets. I think he would do it. But I
17:35
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's such a wide jacket there, like,
17:37
Speaker 1: could could you get that in the shot? Like it is?
17:40
Speaker 1: It's two jackets do it? I am not sure if
17:45
Speaker 1: two Michellan men can can fit into one shot, but
17:48
Speaker 1: not Michigan man to give it a shot? We could
17:50
Speaker 1: do a Michelin man and a Michigan man. There you go.
17:53
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. I like the quick
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Speaker 1: wit tune in Saturday for the Browns and the Ravens
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Speaker 1: right here part of the triple header. Thank you Curd
18:00
Speaker 1: on the call coming up right here on NFL network.
18:04
Speaker 1: Let's continue on NFL Now in a Wednesday edition. Getting
18:07
Speaker 1: ready for those games week fifteen by going back to
18:11
Speaker 1: the league meeting owners meet every December this year, that
18:15
Speaker 1: December meeting is in Irving, Texas, where there is a
18:18
Speaker 1: lot going on today, notably a conversation and I know
18:22
Speaker 1: this one should be fun about possibly quite possibly making
18:28
Speaker 1: roughing the passer reviewable. Let's go to Tom and Ian
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Speaker 1: and Judy Batista. That's just one of many things today
18:37
Speaker 1: being discussed. Judy, Yeah, So Troy Vincent came in and
18:43
Speaker 1: spoke to us about an hour ago, and he said
18:45
Speaker 1: that in the room the owners discussed roughing the pastor
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Speaker 1: and whether there is an appetite for making it reviewable
18:52
Speaker 1: by replay and how would that work. Would that mean
18:55
Speaker 1: a coach has to throw the flag to challenge it
18:57
Speaker 1: or would it have to come from New York? Also,
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Speaker 1: would there be an automatic objection element involved um Troy Vincent,
19:05
Speaker 1: who lived through the past interference. I would use the
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Speaker 1: word to bacle when they made past interference reviewable for
19:13
Speaker 1: one season and then got rid of it very quickly. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I would say, Troy is not going to be in
19:17
Speaker 1: favor of making roughing the pastor reviewable, but he said, guys,
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Speaker 1: this is very likely to be coming up with the
19:24
Speaker 1: Competition Committee in the off season. I might use the
19:26
Speaker 1: word fiasco fiesco the kind of my favorite where it
19:30
Speaker 1: didn't go well, and you know part of the reason
19:32
Speaker 1: it didn't go well was essentially what they were doing.
19:35
Speaker 1: This is something Tom I know the NFL does not
19:37
Speaker 1: like to do, is taking one opinion and substituting it
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Speaker 1: for another opinion. Really, what you want is to be
19:43
Speaker 1: able to just watch the play, have the officials make
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Speaker 1: a good, clean call and move on. You don't want
19:48
Speaker 1: to get to a point where every single time and
19:50
Speaker 1: replay you're doing the SLOWM. You're looking at a play
19:53
Speaker 1: over and over and you could you could literally call
19:55
Speaker 1: a foul on every place, something the NFL does not
19:58
Speaker 1: want to go down. But at least they're going to
20:00
Speaker 1: discuss this, and among other things, discuss also the possible
20:05
Speaker 1: ability time of making roughing the pastor penalty subject to
20:09
Speaker 1: an automatic objection. I know you well enough to know
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Speaker 1: that maybe you are not the greatest fan of all
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Speaker 1: time of this rule. So I will see the floor
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Speaker 1: to you and you tell us why it's a great idea.
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Speaker 1: I followed up with Troy Vincent and asked him because
20:23
Speaker 1: he also included defenseless players in general, in addition to quarterbacks,
20:27
Speaker 1: as potential that if there's a hit that is a
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Speaker 1: violation and penalty, it could trigger automatic objection. I asked him,
20:33
Speaker 1: as a former player and as someone who's in the
20:36
Speaker 1: room for the replays every week in New York, is
20:39
Speaker 1: this feasible? Is it realistic that you could even enforce
20:42
Speaker 1: this consistently enough given all the fallout that would take
20:46
Speaker 1: place from that? And Troy was very upfront staying this
20:48
Speaker 1: is his personal opinion, not speaking on behalf of the
20:50
Speaker 1: league or the competition committee, but that he thinks this
20:53
Speaker 1: would be difficult, does not think going down a path
20:56
Speaker 1: of chasing perfection is something that's best for the NFL.
20:58
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there are people sitting there say, well,
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't they want to get all the calls right.
21:02
Speaker 1: They do want to get the calls right, but you
21:05
Speaker 1: have different mechanics to this, and there are so many
21:08
Speaker 1: unintended consequences. Just think about the piece of this with
21:11
Speaker 1: the possibility of ejecting players. Okay, and I just ran
21:14
Speaker 1: into one influential team executive in the lobby here and
21:17
Speaker 1: asked him. His response was, don't worry about it. The
21:19
Speaker 1: fight has just begun. It was a couple of orders
21:21
Speaker 1: who brought this up in the meeting this morning. But
21:23
Speaker 1: think about all the different things here. You only dressed
21:25
Speaker 1: forty eight players on game day. If you start injecting people,
21:28
Speaker 1: teams are gonna be short players. You're also gonna have
21:30
Speaker 1: there's a lot of star pass rushers. Some of those
21:32
Speaker 1: calls are not with the intent. It's just a really
21:35
Speaker 1: bad looking play. You're gonna throw one of your best players,
21:38
Speaker 1: the highest profile guys, out of a game. You've got
21:40
Speaker 1: pace of play issues, which you mentioned, because if you eject,
21:44
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to make the injections reviewable. And all
21:47
Speaker 1: that's without even mentioning the fact that subjective calls. The
21:50
Speaker 1: Competition Committee has always been opposed to having those reviewable
21:54
Speaker 1: because they don't want to substitute one person judgment for another's.
21:57
Speaker 1: The one time they went down that path was pass interference.
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Speaker 1: It was one of the biggest disasters rule wise that
22:02
Speaker 1: the NFL has ever seen. It is virtual impossible to
22:06
Speaker 1: think that this gets advanced here on any scale. But
22:09
Speaker 1: of course, if enough owners and coaches rally behind it,
22:13
Speaker 1: they can't get what they want. All right, Let's quickly
22:15
Speaker 1: get to the other big topic, which was changing the
22:18
Speaker 1: combine in the name of and this was Troy Vincent's word,
22:20
Speaker 1: adding some dignity to the proceedings. They're going to change
22:24
Speaker 1: the interview process of their changing the timing of some
22:27
Speaker 1: of the workouts, and they want to change how the
22:30
Speaker 1: medical information is shared, sort of reduced the number of
22:33
Speaker 1: tests that guys have to go through in troyments and
22:35
Speaker 1: made the point guys that this is a college player's
22:38
Speaker 1: first exposure to the NFL and they would like to
22:40
Speaker 1: make it a better experience for those guys. One example
22:43
Speaker 1: of this judy is let's say a player had an
22:46
Speaker 1: injury got an m r I a month before, instead
22:48
Speaker 1: of forcing them to go through another m r I,
22:50
Speaker 1: which is really not fun for anyone, Plus you have
22:52
Speaker 1: to wait if multiple players have multiple memris. It takes forever.
22:57
Speaker 1: We've seen this happen time and again at the combine,
22:59
Speaker 1: they would just share the m r I from the
23:01
Speaker 1: previous month. Medical information is being shared more often now
23:05
Speaker 1: that I think we can ever remember, thanks in part
23:07
Speaker 1: to the couple of COVID years. This does seem like
23:10
Speaker 1: it's going to be a change for the better for
23:12
Speaker 1: the players. One of the biggest complaints we heard from
23:14
Speaker 1: agents on behalf of their clients in recent years was
23:17
Speaker 1: with the drills in prime time. It was very long days.
23:20
Speaker 1: You're performing late at night. Your body is not used
23:22
Speaker 1: to doing that. Now, drills no longer in primetime, bench
23:25
Speaker 1: press the day after the on field drills, all of
23:27
Speaker 1: which are positives for the prospects. Andrew, we're going back
23:31
Speaker 1: to you, and we do expect to hear from Commissioner
23:33
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell coming up in a little bit, all right,
23:34
Speaker 1: and we'll see that on NFL Network. By the way,
23:36
Speaker 1: as we're discussing the making things reviewable, I have no
23:39
Speaker 1: doubt Bobby Wagner was watching because the ram f Libacker
23:42
Speaker 1: just tweeted during our conversation the NFL does not need
23:45
Speaker 1: to oject players for hits like college. That's why I
23:48
Speaker 1: stopped watching college a moment. I try to sleep at alone.
24:07
Speaker 1: But a cheap calling, I'll be speaking the children. Then
24:11
Speaker 1: they act like they hate facts. You can't throw a
24:14
Speaker 1: football better than M D P M. I would might not.
24:23
Speaker 1: I'm going to people question mark to exclamation part of this.
24:36
Speaker 1: I think that might be Mike Renner's playlist there for
24:38
Speaker 1: that music bringing us in Mike Runner from PFF Jransas
24:41
Speaker 1: every Wednesday. Might good to see what we were talking
24:43
Speaker 1: with A. J. Brown yesterday about his quarterback who seemingly
24:46
Speaker 1: finds a new way to beat you every week and
24:48
Speaker 1: right now is likely the favorite for m v P.
24:51
Speaker 1: What are the PFF numbers tell you about how well
24:54
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts his playing. Yeah, you hit the nail on
24:57
Speaker 1: the head. There is that he can't beat you any
24:59
Speaker 1: which way. Quick passing game, deep pass the game, intermediate
25:02
Speaker 1: passing game. With his legs design runs. It really is
25:05
Speaker 1: a master class and quarterback development. And you know, it's
25:08
Speaker 1: a different player than we saw last year. And I
25:10
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing that gets lost is how impactful
25:13
Speaker 1: he is to the run game. You know he has
25:15
Speaker 1: he leaves the league in passer rating yes, but you
25:16
Speaker 1: can't really compare apples to apples with him with someone
25:19
Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes, because he turns this running game into
25:22
Speaker 1: a different animal altogether. He leads the NFL at the
25:25
Speaker 1: quarterback esition with nine design runs. He's averaging point three
25:28
Speaker 1: on seven e p a per rush on those. Patrock
25:31
Speaker 1: Homes is averaging point three to one e pa per
25:33
Speaker 1: drop back this season, So he has turned their running
25:35
Speaker 1: game into a drop back passing game. With how efficient
25:37
Speaker 1: it is, it is just rare to see a quarterback
25:40
Speaker 1: do such thing. It's over reminiscent of Lamar Jackson back
25:42
Speaker 1: in nine. Let's give some credit to Trevor Lawrence as well.
25:45
Speaker 1: Has n't thrown an interception since October. October, what about
25:48
Speaker 1: a deeper dive on his numbers. Yeah, he's the highest
25:52
Speaker 1: second highest grade quarterback in the NFL since Week nine
25:55
Speaker 1: per PFF Summers, behind only Joe Burrow. Pretty good company
25:58
Speaker 1: to keep. And it's not just he's taken laffs. He
26:01
Speaker 1: is attacking down the football field. He's the guy we
26:04
Speaker 1: saw back get Clemson a ninety eight point seven PF
26:07
Speaker 1: passing grade when targeting ten plus yards down the field
26:10
Speaker 1: over that span. Far and away the highest in the NFL.
26:13
Speaker 1: It's gone thirty six or fifty three six or six
26:15
Speaker 1: four yards like he has been that downfield pass or
26:18
Speaker 1: that was promised, and he's doing it with really not
26:20
Speaker 1: downfield passing weapons, which is a testament to just how
26:23
Speaker 1: good he's been. He doesn't have the Jamaar Chases of
26:24
Speaker 1: the world to Justin Jefferson's He's kind of doing it
26:27
Speaker 1: to a lot of guys there. So hats off to
26:28
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. He's arrived. What about in New York, Mike,
26:31
Speaker 1: where the Jets and Giants have both seemingly come back
26:34
Speaker 1: to Earth, go under the hood with what their numbers show. Yeah,
26:38
Speaker 1: I was on here, I believe about a month ago
26:40
Speaker 1: saying that the Giants are kind of just figuring it out,
26:43
Speaker 1: figuring out ways to win. But ultimately, in the NFL,
26:46
Speaker 1: you have to have the guys at some point when
26:49
Speaker 1: you go up against the Eagles of the world the
26:50
Speaker 1: Cowboys of the world. So there's seven wins this season,
26:53
Speaker 1: have none have come by more than seven points. They
26:56
Speaker 1: have been able to grind out these close games, but
26:58
Speaker 1: it's not really a sustainable path to success. So I
27:01
Speaker 1: think the talent level there in New York is finally
27:03
Speaker 1: bearing out. As you see their day Jones just a
27:05
Speaker 1: below average quarterback. That's probably what you're gonna get. On
27:08
Speaker 1: the flip side of things, though, the other New York team,
27:10
Speaker 1: the Jets, I still believe, you know, they lost to
27:12
Speaker 1: two really good teams, and the Vikings and the build
27:14
Speaker 1: these Bills these past two weeks. Mike White looks like
27:16
Speaker 1: a legitimate upgrade over what they had at quarterback in
27:19
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. And you still have impact players. You've got
27:21
Speaker 1: Garret Wilson bawling out like a number one receiver. Sauce
27:24
Speaker 1: Gardner right there, maybe the best quarterback in the NFL
27:27
Speaker 1: is the highest graded one, at least with his play
27:29
Speaker 1: this season, and Quinn Williams breakout year, highest grader run
27:32
Speaker 1: defender at defensive tackle. Like they have the guys to
27:34
Speaker 1: make game changing plays. I still think the Jets make players.
27:37
Speaker 1: The Jets have lost four out of six, but they
27:39
Speaker 1: could take take a huge step back towards the postseason
27:42
Speaker 1: with the victory this coming Sunday against the upstart Lions.
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