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Obi-Won was great and Qui-Gon Jin is a Sith · WDYM What Do You Mean?

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  SPEAKER_05: Welcome to a special episode today of the WDYM, the What Do You Mean podcast.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_05: I'm your host, Michael Gillespie, and you're tuning in to episode 13.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_05: Episode 13 is a little different than normal.
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  SPEAKER_05: Normally you hear the intro that I made and everything.
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  SPEAKER_05: No.
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  SPEAKER_05: If you haven't noticed by now, this is Jedi music because we're talking about the series Obi-Wan that's on Disney Plus.
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  SPEAKER_05: That just concluded this week.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I want to give you my thoughts on it, and as well as some other things Star Wars related today.
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  SPEAKER_05: So if you are a Star Wars fan, this is your episode.
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  SPEAKER_05: With that being said, if you haven't seen the Obi-Wan series yet, go ahead and do not listen to this episode.
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  SPEAKER_05: Go watch it first.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_05: Go watch six episodes.
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  SPEAKER_05: Get your opinion, you know, get your fit, you know, get your fix on it, and then come back and listen to uh my opinion and on things and uh everything that's about this series, and plus some other things that I'm gonna discuss and everything.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_05: Without further ado, let's get straight into this episode of Obi-Wan.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_05: Obi-Wan series was Obi-Wan was a six-episode series.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_05: I just want you to love this music like I do.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_05: Six-episode series, which showed what Obi-Wan was doing for the past 10 years since Revenge of the Sith, where he chopped down Anakin.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_05: And uh you could tell that he's struggling.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think what he's like uh I don't know what he's doing, cutting fish up or something, cutting some kind of animal up in the desert, doing his day-to-day, not training, not being part of the force, has pretty much detached himself from the forest.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_05: And you can see how distraught he was as the episodes went by.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_05: And I understand that.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_05: You know, when you when it comes to Obi-Wan, remember that, you know, him and Anakin, they were considered brothers.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_05: At least that's what he thought.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_05: Until the uh episode 3 of Revenge of Sith, where he had to chop him down.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_05: If you if you get a chance to watch or go to YouTube and watch the watch the watch the battle of Anakin Obi-Wan after Revenge of the Sith, you hear Obi-Wan's pain when he's talking to a chopped-up Anakin.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh I I saved the clip.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_05: I wanted to play it for you guys, so just so you can understand the level of pain that he's been feeling for the past 10 years.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_04: That's Anakin, by the way, just to be clear, just in case you don't know.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: You were the chosen one.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_05: Ben Kenobi, you know, tell him that you're my brother, what everything you were supposed to do, you didn't do.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_05: And this is all well, wait, wait.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_05: Before I go there, let's go tune into the now again.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_05: This is spoiler territory, so if you haven't seen it, take the time to watch it.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_05: Please watch all six episodes because they're so beautifully done, in my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_05: But let's let's go to that part where Anna.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_05: Sorry, Darth Vader, because he's not getting that name no more.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_05: Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi fought for the second time.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_05: And to hear how beautifully this was put together, it was perfect.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um now I will pause it to give you my opinion on pieces of it, but I mean, just take a listen.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_05: And again.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_05: Now to give you some quick context to what's going on, again, spoiler territory.
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  SPEAKER_05: So if you haven't seen it, please go watch it first.
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  SPEAKER_05: This is the conclusion or the you know, the conclusion of their battle where Obi-Wan has clearly won.
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  SPEAKER_05: He's to a point where he has cut the mask of Darth Vader and can he can see Anakin's half face.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_05: Let's continue.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_03: Anakin's gone.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_03: I am what remains.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_05: Now, when you see again, when you see this, who who's talking?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_05: Who's talking right now?
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_05: It's supposed to be Anakin Skywalker, but I'm a little confused on this myself when I watch it.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_05: I've watched it maybe three times already.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_05: He keeps like flipping back and forth.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, Anakin.
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  SPEAKER_03: For all of it.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_03: I am not failure to be watching.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker.
• 7:28
  unknown: I did.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_05: Now, what everybody's saying was that this is the moment Darth Vader came in.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_05: So now Anakin Skywalker has multiple personality disorder.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_05: He's just flipping back and forth.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_05: He's like, well, you know, I'm not your failure.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_05: You didn't kill me.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_05: I did.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_05: Ooh, I'm talking in a different voice now.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_05: And now I'm Darth Vader.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_05: This is this is the thing that drives me nuts about Sith.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's like you're supposed to be an evil bastard, but yet you want to switch flip-flop to Anakin and Vader.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_05: Whereas clearly you are now Vader.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_05: But I guess you can do that when you're Sith.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: The same way I will destroy you.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_05: False.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_05: Except one thing.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_05: And it messes with continuity, which is probably why he didn't.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_05: I would have chopped his head off if I was over on Kenobi.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_05: I would have said, you know what?
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_05: I tried.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_05: I don't cut your face off.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna take your head.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_05: I know I'm supposed to be a Jedi and do everything good, but this is the ultimate good.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_05: I need to get rid of you before you do any more harm.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_05: You know, blow up more planets or anything like that.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_05: But I see why he's he's he's one of the greatest Jedi's ever.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_05: That's because you can't beat him.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_05: No matter what you what he does from this point forward, Obi-Wan will always have his number, which is why I can never, never understand a Sith.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I never get down with the Sith.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I don't like Sith.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_05: They're all trash.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_05: The only one that's not trash is Darth Maul.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_05: I love me some Darth Maul, but he got handed his ass too by one of the greatest Jedi's ever.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_05: So this got me thinking.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_05: This got me thinking, why does Anakin always get the pass?
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_05: Why does he always get the hall pass and get to be the Jedi ghost at the end of Return of the Jedi?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_05: Why does he get to be, oh, he was a savior?
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_05: Why does his own son still see good in him?
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_05: When his own brother, quote unquote, LV, say, you're you're done.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_05: You're you will are Darth, Vader.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_05: You will always be Darth Vader.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_05: There is no Anakin left.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_05: But his son could see it.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_05: Which is, again, opinion is rubbish.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_05: Who, like, what child would not see some hope in their father or their mother?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_05: You know, yeah, you done some bad things, but you know, we the same blood, and I expect, you know, I there is hope in you.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_05: There's no there's no hope.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_05: In my opinion, there was never hope in Vader.
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  SPEAKER_05: He, you know, even he killed the Empire, but he didn't even do that.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_05: And he gets to be a it gets to be a ghost for the rest of eternity telling Jedi what to do.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_05: And if if and then and then the thing is that, you know, he gets the Anakin thing.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_05: He's like, but yeah, but he's also Darth Vader.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_05: How many Jedi from the future, if he's still a ghost, he comes in and visits, will know that.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_05: See, this is all corruption.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_05: And this corruption, it's not even his fault.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's not even his fault.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: You know whose fault it is?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_05: It's that damn master Qui-Gon Jin.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_05: I can't stand Qui-Gon Jin.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_05: This is all his fault.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_05: This is all his fault.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, you don't believe me?
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_05: You don't remember?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_05: You haven't seen Phantom Menace in a long time because everybody don't like Phantom Menace?
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's better than the sequels.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_05: I'll tell you that much, in my opinion, it is better than the sequels.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_05: Listen to some of the things Qui-Gon did.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_05: And the Jedi Council was not even for it.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_05: Here we go.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: My only conclusion can be that it was a Sith Lord.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Impossible.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: The Sith have been extinct for a millennia.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: I do not believe the Sith could have returned without us knowing.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Ah! Hard to see the dark side is.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: We will use all our resources to unravel this mystery.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: We will discover the identity of your attacker.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: May the force be with you.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so let me remind you, in this case you haven't seen Phantom Menace in a while, Obi-Wan is with him.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_05: Qui-Gon Jin is there, and he said, May the force be with you.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_05: That means you can go on and get out of here.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_05: Obi-Wan's already walking away.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_05: He's like, I, you know, he said, let's get out of here, but Qui-Gon stays.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: Master Qui-Gon.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: More to say, have you?
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: With your permission, my master.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: I've encountered a virgins in the forest.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_05: And this is what Yoda says, okay.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: A virgins, you say?
• 13:27
  unknown: What?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: Located around a person, a boy.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds at the highest concentration of Mediclorians I have seen in life for.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's possible he was conceived by the Mediclorians.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_05: So we got Jedi Jesus going on here.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_05: All these things that they're saying to the council, and they're all looking at each other like this Qui-Gon Jen, is he high?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Is he smoking that reefer?
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_05: You think this boy is Jedi Jesus, huh?
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: You refer to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the force.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: You believe it's this boy?
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: I don't presume to.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: But you do.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Revealed your opinion is.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: I request the boy be tested, Marcer.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh Drank is a Jedi, you request for him.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Finding him was the will of the force.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: I've no doubt of that.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Bring him before us.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_05: So at this point, we got Key Ali Mundi Yoda.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_05: And Mace Window all look at each other like, can you bleed this stuff?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_05: Can you bleed this stuff?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_05: Can you bleed this stuff?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_05: They all exhale.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_05: I cannot believe this Qui-Gon Jen don't bring this stuff up.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_05: I can't believe he thinks this boy is the one.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_05: They have all this literature, all this background, all this lore.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_05: And now Qui-Gon thinks this boy is Jedi Jesus.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_05: So again, watching Phantomantis is another clip.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: The false is strong with him.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_05: That's the end of it.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_05: That's the end of it.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_05: Good night, everybody.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_05: Masons no.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_05: This ain't happening.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_05: But let's get's keep going on.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_05: Let's keep going on.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: He will not be trained.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: He's too old.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: He is the children.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: You mustn't see it.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Clouded as boys.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yoda.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's clouded.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_05: All these things that are happening, this is not it's clouded.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_05: We can't see this.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_05: That means there's some darkness in the clouds.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_05: There's darkness in the sky.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_05: That is Sith.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_05: If I've never heard Sith before.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_05: And it's debatable.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_05: It's not even debatable.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_05: This should have been if if Mace Windu's like, no.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yada Yoda's saying this is cloudy outside.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_05: What more do you need?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: I will train him now.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: An apprentice.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: You have Qui-Gon.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: Impossible to take on a second death.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: The code forbids it.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Obi Wan is ready.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: I am ready to face the trials.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: Our own council.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: We will keep on who is ready.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: He is headstrong.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's much to learn of the living force, but he is capable.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Now is not the time for this.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: The Senate is voting for a new Supreme Chancellor, and Queen Amadala is returning home, which will put pressure on the Federation and could widen the confrontation.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: And draw out the Queen's Ataka.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: Go with the Queen's Abu and discover the identity of this dark warrior.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: This is the clue we need to unravel the mystery of the Sith.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: May the Force be with you.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: The boy is dangerous.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: They all sense it.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: Why can't you?
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: His fate is uncertain.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: He's not dangerous.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: The council will decide Anakin's future.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: That should be enough for you.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: Now get on board.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_05: Everybody is giving you the red flags.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_05: The Jedi Council gave you the red flags.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_05: Your own Padawan that is with you for all this amount of time.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_05: It's telling you they're right.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_05: They are right, Qui-Gon.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_05: Why can't you why can't you see this?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_05: Because you're the catalyst.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_05: This is your fault.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_05: This is all your fault.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_05: And then the last part that just blows my mind after watching Phantom Menace is even right when you know the greatest Jedi ever takes care of the Sith, he goes up to his master, and his master's gonna lay him a dying wish.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_05: Who's gonna deny him a dying wish?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_05: Let's go.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's too late.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Promise.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Promise me you will train the boy.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, master.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: He is the chosen one.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: He will bring balance.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Train him.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_05: Hits him with the death wish.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_05: Hits him with the death wish on his dying, his last breaths.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_05: Train the boy.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_05: Even though he didn't want to himself.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: He didn't want to do that.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_05: You heard him in the in the previous clip.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_05: Why can't you see this?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_05: Now you want me to train somebody that he probably wasn't even ready for himself.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_05: He's still a Padawan.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_05: See, this this is why Qui-Gon is the worst Jedi master ever.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_05: Period.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_05: I don't care about the Grand Inquisitors.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_05: They were former Jedi.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_05: They were bad.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_05: Qui-Gon is the worst.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_05: Absolute worst.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_05: And then, you know, then you think about it.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_05: After episode three of the Revenge of the Sith, oh, he tells them, all go, you know, go in, go in the conclusion or concur, you know, hide yourself, hide yourself, Obi-Wan.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_05: Stay on Tatooine.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_05: And your master has a way to be a Jedi ghost.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_05: He goes there for 10 years and he doesn't show up.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_05: So now Obi-Wan has been lied.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_05: It felt like he's been lied to.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'll disconnect from the force too.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_05: Like, wait a minute.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_05: You said if I go here, my master Qui-Gon will teach me how to be a ghost, and that's been 10 years.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_05: I ain't seen him yet.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_05: Or you ain't been looking the right way.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_05: I got time for this.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_05: I'm stuck on Tatooine.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's hot.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_05: Let me learn how to be a space ghost.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_05: Come on.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_05: So this is why Qui-Gon, in my opinion, is a catalyst for the Jedi, the Jedi Order's collapse.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_05: It's his fault.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_05: He didn't want to believe the Jedi Council.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_05: He didn't want to believe his co-workers, his co-Jedi.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_05: And say, hey, this boy is bad.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_05: Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe he's not.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_05: But no, you know, Yoda's speaking backwards.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_05: Bad he is.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'll take him as an apprentice.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_05: You already have an apprentice.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_05: These are the laws.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, well, otherwise ready.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_05: I am ready.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_05: You don't tell us what to do.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_05: We are the council.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_05: When you're ready, we'll let you know.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_05: And this is what happens.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_05: Fosters this Jedi, who's not a Jedi, who's in a Sith in Jedi clothes.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_05: And then you see what happens.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_05: Destroys all Jedi, destroys Jedi Council, kills younglings, and now I gotta be f and now Jedi are hiding in the galaxy of fear.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_05: Even Jedi has been turned into inquisitors.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_05: Because there's gonna be two.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_05: You know the Sith the Sith rules.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_05: There are gonna be two.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_05: Master and apprentice.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_05: One who has power, one who craves power.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_05: This is which is stupid.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_05: This is why Anakin doesn't deserve the pass that he gets.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_05: He just shouldn't be a space ghost.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_05: Qui Gon shouldn't be a space ghost.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_05: And if I was a Jedi, I probably wouldn't want to be a space ghost.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_05: Because if I find out what happened, oh I'd be upset.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_05: I'd be like, what?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_05: So that's it.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's that's that's that's it for me.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_05: You know?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_05: You get you see this, you figure like Qui-Gon's a piece of trash, Anakin slash Vader is a piece of trash.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_05: It's just it's just why it's why I don't like the idea of gray Jedi and Sith.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_05: It's just it's just it's just I don't know.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_05: Everyone says that Qui-Gon's a gray Jedi, he's in the middle.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_05: There's no middle.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_05: In my opinion, it's not.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_05: It's hard for me to to uh say that there is a gray Jedi.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_05: And you might say Ahsoka's a gray Jedi, she quit, but I don't see her doing no dark side no dark side stuff.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_05: That's that's a whole nother topic for a whole nother story.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_05: This was just a special interview, a special episode to talk about Star Wars and why Qui-Gon's trash and why Anakin's trash, why Sith are trash in general.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_05: But that's it.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_05: I just wanted to get that off my chest.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_05: Uh go watch the uh Obi-Wan series on Disney Plus if you get a chance.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_05: Six episodes, not that long.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_05: It's great, but I'm waiting for Mandalorias season three.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_05: With that being said, the music's up, sounds very cheery.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_05: Good time to end episode 13.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_05: We are down to 33.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_05: We're getting to 40.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_05: I'm your host, Michael Gillespie, and may the force be with you.