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Week 13 Preview | VT hires James Franklin, Lane Kiffin Drama, Oregon-USC, and more · The Extra Point

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What's up y'all? You're listening to the extra
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point college football podcast. I'm your host Jacob Carnage
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wind, as always by my Co host Daniel Hammock.
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Daniel on today's episode. Look, we've got we've got our
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official hire of this coaching carousel, James Franklin at
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Virginia Tech. We're going to talk about it.
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Lane Kiffin. Look, he he he's made it's like
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the final round of the bachelor. Which team gets his rose?
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We're going to talk about it. We've got some some questions
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after this past weekend, updated College Football Playoff
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predictions because we got to keep updating it.
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As you know, we only got a few weeks of this left.
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Our updated XPR. We've got updated college well
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playoff rankings, 3U matchups, 3 more games we're watching, 4
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picks against the spread, all on this episode.
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Daniel only only two more weeks of the regular season left.
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We only get a few more of these podcasts.
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Man, I'm I'm locked in ready to enjoy it.
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They cling to it, man. Let's hold on tight to these
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last couple weeks. Next week's show.
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I mean, it's going to be, we're talking rivalry weekend, which,
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you know, rivalry weekend number one for me #2 is Labor Day.
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So it's like it's really it's, it matters and it's every game
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is important, whether it's CFP related or not, every game is
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important. But you could say that about all
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of college football. But it's no better time.
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It's not embodied any better time than rivalry weekend
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starting with Thanksgiving. I think Navy plays on
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Thanksgiving this year. So for America, I keep that in
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mind. So let's do this.
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Good to know, Daniel. We've got our first tire, James
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Franklin to Virginia Tech. We've done this before.
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I heard someone else doing it and I'm like, man, did they did
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they listen to the extra point? I, I didn't prep you with this,
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but we, we grade these hires on single, double, triple home run,
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which we've done here on the extra point before.
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And look, there's no, you know that there's no rhyme or reason
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to why coaching searches work. This is all I guess on our part,
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obviously, but if you had to grade this coaching hire,
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Daniel, what are you given this coaching hire?
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I mean, this is, this is a home run for Virginia Tech.
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Yes, yes. I think that they, James
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Franklin should have and could have been tops on the list from
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a lot of jobs that are out there that's weren't being talked
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about. I think Arkansas, there's a lot
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of their fan base that thought he may have been coming to them.
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And I was reading some of their message boards and there was
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some crash outs, which that's just nature of the beast.
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But I think he made a good decision in a place that he can
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win. He's financially secure.
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So there if there's like an up and coming coach taking a first
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time job or taking a job, you might wait for something that is
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more secure with like a SEC or Big 10 school.
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But fit wise, I think this is a great fit for him and a great
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fit for the school. Yeah, 10 out of 10.
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Home run, home run, home run. Yeah, yeah.
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You got a coach that coached in the semi final game last year as
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your head coach heading into next year and you put him in the
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ACC where instead of Combino before and being in the same
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division as Ohio State and Michigan, he's now in the ACC.
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That's going to have a championship game of some
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combination of like Virginia, Georgia Tech, Louisville, SMU.
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Like like what? What school do you walk into the
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ACC next year saying we can't beat them in year 1 in year 1,
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Miami's on the schedule next year on the road.
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Clemson's on the schedule on the road.
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But I think they both those schools have proven that anybody
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can beat them. Talent cap doesn't matter
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apparently. So this is a home run to me.
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I hope it works out. This is the kind of coach
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Virginia Tech needs and the fact that he's available for your
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program. And I think geography too,
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right? He's been in the Midwest, like
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in Pennsylvania for 10 years, recruiting out of Ohio, out of
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Kentucky, out of New Jersey, out of the DMV.
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You put him into Virginia, same recruiting base.
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So I'm curious to see the staff he builds.
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And again, like Virginia Tech has openly said, like they
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didn't give Brent Pry, again, former Franklin assistant, by
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the way, Brent Pry. They didn't give him the
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resources he needed to be successful.
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It sounds like that's one thing Franklin needed guarantee of
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before he took the job was financial guarantees.
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Sounds like Virginia Tech's going to spend like a contender
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in the ACC. So yeah, I think this is a home
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run. James Franklin's a very good
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football coach. Bottom line, I understand why
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Penn State fired him partially, but they just got a very good
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football coach. And I don't know who, I don't
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know who Penn State's going to hire.
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I don't know if they're going to hire someone who I think is a
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guarantee better coach than James Franklin.
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I think that's the. It feels kind of like when
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Auburn moved on from Gus Malzahn.
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Like you can see that. You can see why he got fired,
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and maybe he wasn't the greatest coach in the world at that time,
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or maybe it wasn't the right fit or whatever.
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You could make the argument for why he got fired, but he was a
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floor raiser and there's a chance that you don't hire the
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right guy. That's right.
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Some other good stuff. I mean, he was a coach at in
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late 90s in James Madison and then early 2000s in Maryland
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where he was actually the recruiting coordinator for four
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years. So you think about, you talk
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about the DMV in that area where there's just a very rich talent
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base. Obviously he's been recruiting
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that area for a long time, but he just, there's some deep
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relationships in that area. You know, second, he had another
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stint at Maryland and of course his or two, two more stints at
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Maryland. So he's had a lot of time
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recruiting that part of the country.
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So I think this is great. Virginia, Virginia Tech It was a
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great job. I love it.
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Home run, hire someone who's waiting to either be hired or
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extended and given a new contract.
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Lane Kiffin making the news this week.
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He I mean, look, this is the kind of college football that I
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didn't think we had any more by chance this the message board
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culture. And like flight tracking was a
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big thing like mid 2000s and like early 20 tens of like, you
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know, look at this, you know, this tail number that's the
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university plane flying from, you know, Lubbock to Starkville.
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And look at this, a lot of this tail numbers have come private
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now. So flight tracking kind of gone
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away and any flight tracking now is a little silly until what's
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that? LSU hasn't made their tail
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number private? And all things go on the the,
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the Bengal tiger as all of a sudden, you know, someone tells
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them, hey, there's going to be a plane landing here soon.
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And he's like, I got my lunch break.
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I'm going to get a potato and go sit in the bushes and see what I
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can do with my long lens camera. And by God, he did.
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And out gets Lane Kiffin's family.
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So then it gets confirmed by, you know, the LSU riders that
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yes, Lane Kiffin's family is in Baton Rouge on Monday.
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And by the way, they were in Gainesville yesterday and no one
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knew. Looking at looking at schools
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and houses or whatnot, I've come to find out this happens quite
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often and that this is not the only family that has taken
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visits to other cities this coaching cycle.
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It's just Lane is the most public.
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So he's the one that. Well, he's the hottest thing.
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He's the one that everybody wants.
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He's at the two most high profile jobs right now.
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Yeah, exactly. He's the number one name for the
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two best jobs open right now there.
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There's your. Yeah.
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So yeah, this is. I don't know what he's going to
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do, you know, And then he's like, there's been no ultimatum.
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I'm like, sure, there's been no ultimatum.
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Has there been a handshake agreement saying you have you
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need to let us know by the Egg Bowl?
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Probably. But you know, Daniel, that
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that's not an ultimatum. Was as Linn Kiffin said on
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McAfee. So this is interesting, I think,
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I think it confirms that everyone thought, which is, hey,
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let you know #1 Lane is the target for both of these
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schools, obviously. And Lane is considering and
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weighing his options as he should.
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And you know, we read a great Twitter thread, not from anyone
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who knows anything but a best guess, which made a lot of
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sense. Just saying, hey, like to sum it
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up, Lane is considering these. He was serious about it being a
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family thing at Ole Miss. And so he's not going to do this
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without family approval. So he's seeing what his family
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thinks because I, I do think his family is going to have a lot of
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input into this decision. I don't think he's lying at all
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about that. So if the families want to make
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a move, I think Lane's want to make a move.
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I also think he means that when he says he's happy, it'll miss.
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I just think he's looking internally.
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We we talked about this, Daniel, does Lane KIF want to win a
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national championship and can he do that at Ole Miss?
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I think now it's a question versus a few years ago, I just I
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would have said an absolute no. I still think it's an uphill
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battle. I don't think it's an uphill
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battle at LSU or Florida. It's an uphill battle anywhere.
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But you know what I mean? It is it is easier access at LSU
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or Florida just because of resources.
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So. But I love this.
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It's fun. This is what makes college
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football fun. Shout out to all things Go.
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And yeah, I am. I'm curious if we get word of an
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announcement before for the Egg Bowl next week on Black Friday.
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Yeah, it's common. I mean, we'll see.
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It's one of these things where it's like he's he would be doing
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a disservice to not kick the tires and see what's going on
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with these. So and you also understand Ole
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misses side of it if like they don't want to be his side piece
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while he's looking elsewhere. So like they want to know they
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want to be competitive and get a coach if they have to.
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It's just the one thing I'm worried about is these players
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on this team this year, This is a special team.
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I would hate for this to supersede all of that and for
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him to go in, you know, coaches go in distracted to playoff
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games or bowl games or whatever all the time.
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But for it to be a playoff and like this very special season
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from Ole Miss. And if he was to go in
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completely, you know, hired by another school, would they allow
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him to still coach the bowl game or, you know, to to try to win
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this year? Would they, you know, say, OK,
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we're going to go interim coach. There's so many ways they could
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go. You just don't want these kids
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to suffer like they've had a great year, like they let's
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let's finish it out strong for them somehow, because you just
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don't get this opportunity every single year, especially
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somewhere I don't miss, you know, so.
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Pate said this and I thought it hit the nail on the head,
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Daniel. This is a consequence of the
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wrong people having their hands in the wheel of college
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football. This is the consequence of the
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calendar being a complete mess because the NFL has this figured
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out. You don't have a deadline of if
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we don't hire a coach before the end of the season, you know,
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because the draft happens to be between weeks 16 and 17, It's
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like, well, of course not. The draft is four months after
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the season ends or two months after the season ends and the
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combines a month before that. It's we need to get the college
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football schedule figured out because this could be better for
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all parties where Lane does not have to even consider this
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before seasons end, which honors #1 his contract and #2 just his
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relationship and like, commitment to these kids and
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these players in the school and the fans they're at Ole Miss.
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They could match it up with the like also NFL in the sense that
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the NFL coaching search. What if an NFL coach opening?
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What if they go hire somebody from college?
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Well then, that school starting over in January, or whenever
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this is, anyways. The college football calendar is
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broken. It desperately needs to get
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fixed. College football desperately
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needs the right people with their hands on the wheel.
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And again, I mean, look, I don't have the perfect calendar at the
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top of my head, but we've got to have national signing day be
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after the season ends. We've got to have the portal
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window be after the season ends, but somehow before spring
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football begins. And that's going to, that's
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going to like schools are going to have to adjust the academic
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calendar to help match the football calendar, which to me
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is not impossible and I don't think we're far away from.
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But we still need the right people with their hands on the
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wheel for the schedule to get perfect.
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I agree, Daniel, 2 questions we have moving forward after this
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past weekend. What's your first one?
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Much like you know James Franklin was the first domino to
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fall as far as the head coaching hire, Lane Kiff may be the most
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important domino to fall as far as coaching carousel.
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My questions about Alabama and about the CFP, Are they the
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biggest domino in the CFP remaining?
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My point is they could get into the SEC championship game.
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Of course, if they just win against Auburn, they could win
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it all. You know, as far as winning that
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game and getting to the playoff and having even maybe a bye week
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with two losses. That's possible if you're an SEC
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champion, if you, you know, if you don't do that, let's say you
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go to the SEC championship game but lose, you could knock out
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other at large bids potentially by being a, you know, 11 or
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10:00 and 10:00 and 3:00 because you go 10 and two regular
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season, you lose the SEC championship.
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But ten and three, you could really complicate things for
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other teams that are at large bids.
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And then if they just lose to Auburn, there's a chance they're
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left out altogether. This the first night game in
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Jordan Hare Stadium for the Iron Bowl since 2007.
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So it's crazy that that's the case, but I just feel like
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there's so much right, Like Alabama could reach the pinnacle
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still and fall completely out, whereas before, if they would
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have just beaten Oklahoma, I think that there's a small
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window of OK, it just depends on what seed they're going to be.
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But they could be all the way from the very top to the one
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that's just watching from from. Home yeah, bam is an interesting
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case. I mean they they obviously
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control their own destiny still, but I I am curious to see where
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they where they fall by seasons. Then you know my first question
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is I'm going to save that one. Has Georgia turned in the Death
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Star Georgia, or are we seeing a second team that looks like they
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could be dominant the rest of the way and win it all?
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And it reminds me, Daniel, it happened later for Ohio State
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last year, but it reminds me of Ohio State last year because we
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have to remember Ohio State did lose the last game of the season
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to Michigan, but then they came into the playoff.
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And it's like everything we said about the potential of that team
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clicked from that first game against or first game against
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Tennessee. It was turned up to level 11 and
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they rode that the rest of the way to a championship.
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And what we, we've said this year on this podcast that teams,
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the teams that are going to contend for championships, start
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to play their best ball in November.
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And you know, I like looking at the the trajectory of teams
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throughout the year of which teams are running out of gas,
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You know, which teams are more dominating and starting to play
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closer games, Which teams dominated Week 1 and now they're
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starting to lose games. Which teams Daniel played a lot
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of 1 score games and now has played two dominant games
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against conference opponents, winning by multiple possessions.
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And George has done that. I look at Georgia Daniel now and
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I'm trying not to have an overreaction in one week.
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This has been building. But in November they've played
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three very good football games and that they it just eye test
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wise Daniel, they look like a very complete football team
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right now. And so you match that with with
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the results through a one loss team.
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They've got Charlotte this week, They've got Tech the end of the
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year. They will wait and see on the
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SEC championship. They need some stuff to happen
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for them to get in. Daniel, this is a team.
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It's peaking at the right time. And as as I start to project and
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say who can win a championship, Georgia is firmly in that
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conversation. They're starting to look like
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Georgia. I think that's my big take away
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this week. And have they turned into Death
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Star Georgia? We will see.
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Yeah, that one's interesting. I like I like what you said
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about how it's there's some teams that you know, may have
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blown teams out of beginning and playing closer games.
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Now it is a trend and you've got to you know, some teams are just
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limping to the finish line just trying to get to the end.
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And it seems like Georgia wants to play everybody now.
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They Kirby, the way he talked after the game, kind of seemed
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like he's calling a shot. Kind of seemed like he's likes
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his team, he's confident in his team, he's ready to go.
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If you're a football guy, I wish I had it ready to to play, just
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go watch. Kirby's press conference
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Saturday was talking about post game.
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We like yeah, we like to hit people and that they like to
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take people to the water. They like down and dirty, Yeah,
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to get to. Get it was an all timer.
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He had several clips from that presser.
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He. Did and look to get this.
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This is something Samon did so well to get these players.
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And look, they're probably getting paid well then they're
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all getting paid very well now. George is not not playing guys.
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George is paying guys. They're one of the biggest
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spenders still. But you've got to be bought into
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Kirby's culture to get these kids to care about physicality
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and to care about hitting. It's a skill.
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Kirby's done it. They're hitting people.
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And again, that's why we're getting into November and
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they're dominating the fourth quarter, Daniel, because teams
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can't hang for 60 full minutes, which we saw early on in the
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season with Georgia. Now, can can you hang for 15 to
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17 games and play at a high level?
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Ohio State was able to do that last year, right?
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Like they were able to go the full 17 when one other teams
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couldn't. Georgia looks like a team that
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can do that this year as as does a few others.
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But George is firmly in that conversation, whereas a month
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ago, I would not have really considered Georgia to be a title
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contender firmly in the playoff conversation.
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But now I'm firmly putting George in that they're entitled
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contender mode is kind of my answer to my own question.
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So I'm excited to see how that scales the rest of the way.
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Daniel, what's your second question?
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My second question is, is or I guess what is most likely for
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the ACC championship game? There are so many scenarios and
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I think that what I was talking about, you know, Alabama being
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biggest domino to fall, I think this may be like the biggest
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wild card as far as who is going to represent the ACC and the
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CFP. Are they going to get 2 teams in
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me? And you have both been on the
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hey, there's a one team conference.
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But you know, it's crazy to Georgia Tech, all they have to
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do if they beat Pitt, they're in Virginia.
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If they beat Virginia Tech, that's your championship.
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But Virginia also gets in if SMU loses to Louisville or
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California or if Pitt loses to Georgia Tech or Miami.
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That's that's their second scenario.
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Miami has to have like 8 things happen Pit of course they need
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to beat Tech in Miami and then they need SMU to lose.
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They need Virginia to beat Virginia Tech.
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There's a lot of list of things to happen.
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So SMU still has a shot, which is crazy.
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So I think Miami could still make the CFP as a 10 and two
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team. If you know, I don't think that
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they have a shot personally because of all of the things
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that have to happen for them. I don't think they have a shot
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to make the ACC championship game and get as an automatic
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qualifier. So I think the ACC gets their
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champion in and then if if Miami finishes out ten and two think
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they've got a shot. I've got my ACC champ in our
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playoff predictions, which we're about to get to which I did.
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I go, I went to if you got AB ball.nothing.notnothing.net, you
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can play this out for yourself. You can pick the winner of each
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game and hit calculate standings in it runs all of it for you.
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So that's how I get my match up and winner.
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SMU is fairly straightforward. I mean, Virginia's is
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straightforward, Georgia, Texas straightforward.
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SMU needs like one thing like Georgia Tech and Virginia
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controller and destiny. SMU just needs one of them to
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lose a game. And then after that it gets
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really wonky after that. OK, Daniel, my second question,
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we can we can start to get in the playoff picks here.
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It's head to head going to matter.
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And when is it going to matter when it comes to selecting the
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final playoff? Because last night I saw a clip
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of the whoever the new chairman is now saying.
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And remember, like head to And so for example, Miami and Notre
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Dame both have two losses. Notre Dame started off 8 spots
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ahead of Miami last week they were 5 this week, they're four.
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Now. Has Miami done anything
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impressive in those weeks? No, I think they're correcting a
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mistake slowly but surely. So we're oh, now they're three
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spots ahead. Well, now we're going to
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consider head to And the other one is that I
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think it's going to matter. Oklahoma, Michigan, let's just
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have it on my playoff because this is where it comes up.
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I tweeted or I tweeted, I sent this to our group chat with some
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buddies and I have two spots left for 4/10 and two teams.
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Of course, this isn't going to really happen because it's
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college football and craziness is going to ensue in the next
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two weeks. But of course.
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But here's my playoff. I've got Indiana at 1:13 or no
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Big 10 champs, obviously. Alabama ACC champs 11 and two at
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the two seed Texas A&M with the three seed 12 and one SEC runner
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up. Four seed Texas Tech 12 and one
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Big 12 champs, all right. Five seed Georgia 11 and one.
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Six seed Ole Miss 11 and one pretty straightforward. 7 seed
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Oregon 11 and 1 lot 11 and one seems here. 8 seed Ohio State,
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11 and one. All right, remember Daniel,
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we're picking Michigan, all right, That's right, that's
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right. You said it made a pack.
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We're picking this show, 11 and one.
22:53
Obviously Michigan's going to beat him.
22:54
All right, let me go. The 12 seed North Texas out of
22:57
the American 11 seed ACC Champ SMUI have them winning, all
23:03
right? I've been getting in and winning
23:05
the conference. I've got 2 spots left, Daniel.
23:07
I've got 4-10 and two teams. And This is why I asked.
23:09
The question is, I've got 10 and 2 Notre Dame, 10 and two Miami,
23:15
10 and two Oklahoma, ten and two Michigan, and you've got Notre
23:21
Dame, who will have had wins against Miami, obviously head to
23:25
head, and also 12 and one. Excuse me, No, they lost to XXA
23:30
and M sorry. So what's Notre Dame signature?
23:33
We lost to Miami. Yeah, yeah.
23:36
Yeah, Or sorry, sorry, sorry. I had the I'm like, they lost to
23:38
A&M and Miami. Those are their two losses.
23:42
Signature one will have been USC who was like 9.
23:45
Three. You've got Miami who beat Notre
23:50
Dame straight up who's still 4 spots behind them because their
23:54
two losses are quote UN quote worst losses.
23:57
Oklahoma tended to with a win over SEC champion Bama.
24:00
Michigan tended to with a win over.
24:03
Ohio State. You know, Ohio State at the end
24:05
of the year who would have been the committee's number one team
24:07
to that point. Then I've gone with three
24:09
different combinations here. I might change it now.
24:11
I think Oklahoma's in regard I think 10 and two Oklahoma is in.
24:16
They have a win over Michigan with that.
24:18
Then here comes the issue. You either put in Notre Dame or
24:21
Miami, which of those two at that point in the season, this
24:25
is for one spot, Daniel. This is for this one seed.
24:27
Do you put in my you have to put in Miami at that point they one
24:31
head to head or do you say the heck with it?
24:34
Both are out. Michigan's in they beat Ohio
24:36
State. They're tended to.
24:38
So you only have a Oklahoma and Michigan in which is what I have
24:41
and now you know that head to head Oklahoma beat them.
24:45
They're ahead of them in the seeding and they're both in the
24:47
playoff and then you leave one of the head to head matchups out
24:50
completely. You solve your own problem.
24:52
Don't have to worry about who's ahead of who.
24:54
They're both out. Look this we're going to be
24:57
wrong with these predictions. There's way too many one and two
25:00
lost teams in here. I got a sneaky feeling.
25:03
Yeah, what do you do with nine and three?
25:04
Texas, you got to put. I'm just kidding.
25:06
Well, in this scenario, they're 8:00 and 4:00 because A&M wins.
25:09
Yeah, because A&M beats him. I got.
25:11
You come back and forth who's going to win that game, but as
25:14
of right now, that's who I've got.
25:16
Yeah, that's why I hope that the playoff.
25:18
What about you? I've got Ohio State #1
25:23
undefeated. I know we're actually going to
25:25
pick them to lose. I'm just these are hypothetical.
25:29
Come on. Ohio State, well, I wanted to
25:31
keep the same theme as last week.
25:33
I was like, I don't want to take, you know, you, you fact
25:35
that you baked in the actual loss.
25:38
I'm just, you know, whatever. Ohio State #1 hypothetically
25:44
undefeated Big 10 champ. The loser of that game, Indiana,
25:48
is number 2. Surprisingly, I have Alabama is
25:52
#3 because they win the SEC championship, but they've got 2
25:58
losses, so I felt like they might get stuck in 3 instead of
26:03
2. And then I have #4 is Texas A&M
26:10
the loser of the FCC championship?
26:13
5 is Georgia, 11 and 1/6 is Texas Tech Big 12 champ, 7
26:21
Oregon 11 and 18 Ole Miss 11 and 1 Notre Dame and number 9:10 and
26:31
2:00 and then I have Miami at 10:10 and 2:00 at ACC champion
26:40
Pittsburgh. I kept it the same because I
26:43
feel like after last week, the whole Notre Dame thing, he had
26:47
us really confused. And I, I'm curious, I'm so this
26:51
Georgia Tech pits game. So glad we're picking it this
26:54
week. I'm so curious what's going to
26:56
happen. I just kept pit in there.
26:58
I may even pick Georgia Tech in the game when we get later.
27:01
I'm still like, I'm enamored with Pittsburgh and then Tulane.
27:04
I mean, they're finally getting some love from the CFP.
27:07
So I figured I would just keep them in there for me as the
27:12
Group of Six highest rated champion.
27:14
So that's my 12. OK, I love it.
27:17
We'll both be wrong, of course. Especially me, I don't have.
27:23
I have a higher state undefeated.
27:24
They're going to lose to Michigan.
27:26
They're going to lose to Michigan.
27:27
So yeah, we'll fix that one by you by year's end.
27:29
You know, after they lose, we'll have a, we'll have a better
27:31
playoff prediction, all right? After Selection Sunday, we'll
27:33
have a great playoff prediction. We'll have a good one if you
27:38
are. Update, Daniel.
27:39
There's a couple teams I wanted to address.
27:41
Miami was one. We've got them at 11, which is
27:44
still behind Notre Dame but closer.
27:46
And there was one more Dane. I should have written this down.
27:49
This is terrible podcasting. There's one more team I wanted
27:52
to address as far as where they are Texas at 16 for us in the in
27:56
the playoff. I know they were I think one
27:58
spot lower than that. We we have Georgia up at 3:00.
28:01
I think that's interesting. A&M actually below Oregon down
28:04
at 5. I don't I don't think their
28:05
resume is that bad. Power ranking for Georgia is
28:09
like throttled right now on several the power rankings we
28:11
used to help make our make our ranking.
28:14
Bama down to date. I was curious how far they were
28:16
going to fall in our XPR Texas Tech at 7:00.
28:21
So Bama, the highest two loss team, they're actually tie tie
28:26
with Notre Dame on points. But any major takeaways from
28:29
RXPR or the the CFP rankings from Tuesday night?
28:35
Yeah, I'm just concerned. I mean, I, I'm not an Alabama
28:39
fan, but as a college football fan and being fair, I'm, I'm
28:46
just curious, like, you know, with Alabama's wins that they've
28:49
had it just to me, it's like, are they going, is the CFP
28:53
committee just always going to punish you for having a couple
28:57
of losses versus like, you know, all of your great wins?
29:01
I get you. You shouldn't put like a four
29:03
loss team in, but a two loss team, again, they're not putting
29:08
Alabama out, but they've got them at 10.
29:10
And so if certain things were to happen, I, I'm concerned for
29:15
Alabama to make the playoff. You know, if they were, if they
29:18
were, like I mentioned before, they would potentially lose to
29:21
Auburn be 9 and three if they were to go to the ACC
29:24
championship and lose and be 10 and three, you know, I, I, I
29:29
think that they would at least have, you know, some a case to
29:32
make for they've had the maybe most impressive wins.
29:36
Now they've also had the loss to Florida State, which was
29:39
terrible. And in the hypothetical, if they
29:41
lose to that Auburn team, that would be pretty terrible as
29:44
well. But I think Alabama's got a bone
29:46
to pick with being at 10 right now for the CFPI.
29:50
Think we have them more accurately rated at 8.
29:53
I think that is more where they should be.
29:56
I don't think necessarily should stay in the top five if you lose
29:59
the second game. But you know, I think that there
30:01
should be a healthy like discernment.
30:03
And I, I just questioned CFP committee.
30:06
I think everybody does. It's not an easy job, but yeah,
30:11
you've got some people who either don't care or are arguing
30:18
for their own self-interest. I'm always nervous about it
30:20
feels like politics and sports and I just want sports.
30:23
How about that? You know, I think, I don't think
30:25
I'm being hyperbolic when I say this, that I think there's 10s
30:28
of thousands of people that are more qualified to be on the
30:30
committee than the people who are on the committee.
30:33
Yeah, I think that's one of my problems with it.
30:35
But like you like, yes, it's a hard job, which is why when you
30:38
get something like the XPR that, look, have a committee, have a
30:42
committee that takes these teams, goes through all the data
30:45
and have people who love college football, who watch every game,
30:49
who are watching Hawaii at 11:00 PM and watching CUSA Tuesdays
30:53
and Max and Wednesdays. And like have those people
30:57
ranking teams and have that as one data point, have them as
31:02
well. And this is what we tried to do
31:03
with the XPR is hey, incorporate power rating a little bit, tone
31:07
it down. But like, I'm trying to figure
31:09
out who the best teams are. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you
31:11
off. No, no, no good.
31:13
I'm just going to say, I think you could just get like the
31:17
talking heads from across the sport that everybody stakes
31:20
their flag on. I'm saying the Josh Pates of the
31:23
world get a Josh Pate, Joel Klatt, bring us to, but, you
31:28
know, put all these people. Maybe not the guys who are
31:34
watching. Dude, give me Oh my gosh, 24/7
31:38
Sports, the Cover 3 podcast. Give me those guys, all of them.
31:42
But Elliot, not Danny Cannell, Tom for, but Elliot.
31:45
Tom Fornelli, Thank you, Tom Fornelli.
31:47
I need people who watch these games and are so involved in
31:51
watching the most useless game. Give me those guys.
31:56
That would be, I think the fans would vote and be like, yeah,
31:59
let's. I mean, I, you know, I like this
32:02
guy. I don't like this guy like this
32:03
guy. But it's like you at least know
32:05
that they care and they no ball. It's the same with like
32:08
politicians. Would you want someone who
32:11
doesn't read the bill or someone who doesn't live in your
32:14
district? Who's lying about that?
32:16
No, no, no, no, no, no. You want the people for the
32:19
people by the people. That's what college football
32:20
should be as well. I'm with you.
32:23
We need a commissioner. We got to fix the calendar.
32:25
We got to fix the committee. All this is fixable, wrong
32:30
people's hands on the wheel. Daniel, 3 games are not picking
32:34
that you're watching this one that we are watching this
32:35
weekend as well as your team of the week from Week 12.
32:39
Yeah, team of the week was Georgia, very impressive when
32:44
Oklahoma was also on the list right there with their their win
32:48
on the road at Bryan Denny Stadium against Alabama.
32:51
Georgia though, it just was a master class.
32:54
I feel like by Kirby Smart we talked about, you know, the
32:57
middle 8 all the time and Kirby was really big on the the middle
33:01
8. As far as the last part of the
33:02
first half, first part of the second-half, Georgia didn't have
33:05
a good successful middle 8 even though they were leading 14 to 3
33:09
at halftime. And Kirby just kind of created
33:12
his own middle 8 by going down and scoring with 4th down
33:16
conversions and then eventually do an onside kick.
33:20
So I thought that was impressive.
33:21
Big, big win. But as far as my three games,
33:24
Texas against Arkansas, I think this is the classic let down
33:29
spot for Texas, their 8 1/2 point favorite.
33:32
They are favored in the game at home.
33:36
They play Texas A&M next week. So you get the big rivalry next
33:38
week, coming off of a deflating loss to Georgia.
33:42
They knew if they kept it close that they had a shot at the CFP.
33:45
If they beat Texas A&M, maybe that shots gone, maybe not.
33:50
If there's chaos, Arkansas is a frisky little team and that is a
33:54
rivalry game. So just watch out, man.
33:59
Florida and Tennessee. How are we?
34:01
Blessed to have this game this weekend.
34:04
This is cupcake weekend in the SEC.
34:07
This is when all the SEC teams famously get made fun of by
34:11
every other conference for playing smaller schools, giving
34:15
patient games. Well, this is Tennessee and
34:17
Florida. We're used to seeing this one in
34:18
September and sometimes October. This is the weekend before
34:23
Thanksgiving. That's crazy.
34:25
Give me that game every day of the week, man.
34:26
This is in the Swamp. Tennessee's a slight favorite.
34:29
They have not won in Ben Hill Griffin Stadium.
34:34
I don't know, 20 years, I don't, I don't know.
34:36
It's been a long time since they've won down there.
34:38
I've been last game is one that we were considering picking
34:42
Cincinnati hosting BYUBYU is a 2 1/2 point favorite.
34:46
That one has implications for what the Big 12 champion, maybe
34:51
big, still championship game at least.
34:54
We just felt like this one may not quite be on the, you know,
34:58
ready for maybe all of our listeners.
35:00
We got a big, you know, fan base that cares a lot about SEC in
35:03
the ACC, so we stuck close to home with our picks for that
35:07
one. This one, that one's still going
35:09
to be on my screen. I'm interested to see what
35:11
happens in that game. I did not realize how one sided
35:14
Florida Tennessee was. It's bad.
35:17
Yeah, I'm just, you know, if if you go Wikipedia and like a
35:20
series history, it shows you like colors, like if, if, which
35:23
team wins that, that, that's a lot of blue.
35:28
I'm like, oof, that's a lot of blue. 2003, by the way, was the
35:35
last win in Gainesville. That's nuts.
35:39
Wow. Wow.
35:42
Yeah, I had no idea. OK.
35:45
Everybody's talking about is Tennessee going to beat
35:48
Vanderbilt? But it's like it's not going to
35:50
they. Got Florida this week?
35:51
You know you got Florida this week, so.
35:53
It's is Florida dead, dead. That's my yeah, we'll see.
35:57
Maybe, maybe they're going to pull up the series history and
35:59
say, oh, we got to, you know, we got to show them who Daddy is.
36:03
All right, They 3U matchups to watch this week.
36:06
We've got some good ones in the uniform matchup of the week for
36:09
this past week, Daniel was BYU versus TCU.
36:13
Like I had Georgia, Texas. I'm going to walk back some of
36:15
my comments in the Texas uniforms I rightfully got pushed
36:18
back on. I'm going to save that for the
36:21
offseason though. We're all do a full uniform
36:23
breakdown, which I'm excited about.
36:24
But BYUTCU, like TC is clean up their uniforms a good little
36:28
bit. Nice little combo of the black,
36:31
white, black combo for TCU. And then we had the white Royal
36:35
white combo for BYU with like those again, good use of like a
36:39
classic mix with the modern uniform thing of the the like
36:43
reflective logo on the helmet being royal was a nice pop
36:48
instead of like an entire like mirror looking helmet.
36:50
Auburn does that really well. They've got like a reflective
36:53
logo on the helmet. Nice little modern touch to a
36:55
classic uniform. So great uniform match up.
36:58
We've got a few good ones this week #1 Oregon, USC.
37:02
I don't know what Oregon's wearing yet, but let me let me
37:04
look while we're sitting here. Make sure they haven't dropped
37:06
it. But USC is a way look is a
37:08
classic Oregon. I will say this, Daniel, Oregon
37:11
has had more misses this year than they usually have in a
37:14
season. Excited to see what they come up
37:17
with this week. Maybe it's black against USC.
37:23
We'll see. Excited to see that'll that'll
37:25
be the should be a good uniform match up though, and that one
37:29
And then we've got Utah, Kansas State, 2 schools that have some
37:34
really good uniforms. Good color contrast there as
37:36
well. And the Texas, Arkansas, the
37:40
burn torn Texas being at home big one there feed the left got
37:44
left in the cutting room for Virginia Tech Miami should be a
37:47
good one. Penn State, Nebraska don't love
37:49
Nebraska's away uniforms, but some some blue and red should be
37:53
nice on the field. Then your fourth quarter of our
37:57
show 4 picks against the spread, we begin with Oklahoma and
38:05
Missouri high noon. Oklahoma I believe rolls their
38:10
own destiny for the playoff went out and you're in attended to
38:12
SEC team with a win over Alabama.
38:15
Whenever Michigan, who's going to have two or three losses, I
38:18
think you're in at that rate. Only lost being to a playoff
38:23
team in Ole Miss, a playoff team or actually not a playoff team.
38:29
A93 Texas. I think you control your own
38:32
destiny. But here's Missouri, Daniel,
38:35
only 7 1/2 points with home field baked in with a backup
38:39
quarterback baked in line. Seems a little smelly.
38:43
Who you like in this one? Yeah.
38:44
I mean, I'm just this one seems obvious to me and I, I don't
38:50
know if that's a problem because we have not been as great as we
38:55
normally are against the spread this year.
38:57
But Missouri even with a backup quarterback can run the ball.
39:03
They have shown that all year. Obviously Mod Hardy's having one
39:07
of the best years in SEC history at this at this point already.
39:11
And you add to it that Oklahoma just had such a signature win
39:17
against Alabama can't make, I mean, but we looked at the post
39:22
game win probability, expectancy, whatever that they
39:25
stole that game that was. 4%. Very low.
39:28
They did a good job. They were clutch when they had
39:30
to be clutched. Their defense clamped down when
39:33
they need to clamp down. Their offense has did exactly
39:37
what you know enough in that game, you know, and they they
39:42
had the ball bounced their way the right time.
39:44
So defensive score, things like that.
39:47
I just don't know. I don't know how much you can
39:51
replicate that. I don't know.
39:53
I'm saying they're going to outright lose to Missouri.
39:56
I absolutely think that's on the table.
39:58
But 7 1/2 points to me is too much for going against a team
40:03
that can run the ball like Missouri.
40:05
And I just don't know if Oklahoma is like head and
40:07
shoulders better than Missouri. And I think that's mostly an
40:12
indictment on Oklahoma's offense.
40:14
So I think Oklahoma's defense can lead them to win this game
40:18
and I think Oklahoma is a better team.
40:21
But 7 1/2 points too much. So give me the Tigers, give me 7
40:25
1/2. I would not be surprised if they
40:28
beat them, you know, if Missouri wins.
40:30
But I think Oklahoma probably just wins a close game and they
40:34
can't get get out of there, you know, for eight points or more.
40:37
So 7 1/2 points give me those with Missouri.
40:40
You know, I'm with you. I don't know if Oklahoma can
40:43
score enough to blow them out like to to win by two
40:47
possessions. I mean, dude, the the reason the
40:49
post game what expectancy was 4% is because they they got doubled
40:53
up in yardage. Like Oklahoma still couldn't run
40:56
the ball. That's what was at 17 points off
40:58
of turnovers and they had a missed field goal and they went
41:00
by two. So look, you won the game.
41:04
Your defense locked Alabama down.
41:05
You forced those turnovers deserved win.
41:07
But if I'm forward-looking from that game, there's a reason this
41:13
is 7 1/2 and not 10 1/2, and I'm taking the Tiger for the points.
41:17
I think Oklahoma wins a close game, I think.
41:20
But if Missouri pulls off this upset, I'm going to be happy
41:23
holding on to 7 1/2 points regardless.
41:26
Again, Oklahoma's offense is still very pedestrian,
41:29
especially running the ball still.
41:30
And Missouri has a very good rush defense.
41:33
They can get after the passer. They can get sacks on John.
41:36
But here, Daniel, I mean, I, I would not be surprised at all if
41:39
this is like a 1714 game. The the total on this game, I
41:44
think it's 42. So I mean, Vegas is expecting
41:48
like a 2114 game. I think it's exactly what you're
41:52
going to get in this one. I'll say Oklahoma wins like 20
41:56
to 14, which is like 34 points. I mean, that's that's that's
42:00
crazy. Yeah.
42:02
The good on good matchup I'm excited to watch is the Oklahoma
42:05
rush defense against the Missouri rush offense.
42:09
That will be very special to watch to see who gets an edge
42:11
there because I think that could decide the game, which I think
42:14
will be very close to give me some the 7 1/2 points I'll take
42:17
the Tigers plus the points Oklahoma to win, but would not
42:20
be surprised at all by an upset here.
42:22
More upsets are going to happen, Daniel.
42:23
We didn't see Oklahoma over Alabama last week.
42:26
More upsets are going to happen. This could be the next one is
42:30
we're chalking up this. Oh yeah, Oklahoma 10 and 2.
42:33
They just got to beat this little Missouri team at home and
42:35
boop, Missouri pulls off an upset would not surprise me.
42:38
Give me those points. Another game with playoff
42:41
implications. Vandy in Kentucky, Vandy at
42:44
home, 9 1/2 point favorite. I feel like no one's talking
42:48
about the fact that, again, Vanderbilt controls their own
42:51
playoff destiny, that they went out and they are absolutely in
42:55
with their only losses being to Texas and Alabama, one of those
43:00
playoff team, you know, both on the road, they're in.
43:05
Daniel, 9 1/2 point favorites against Kentucky, which if you
43:08
had told me three years ago would have just said you're
43:10
insane to get. Give it a 9 1/2 points to
43:13
Kentucky in this matchup. Vandy, a 9 1/2 point favorite.
43:16
Who do you like in Nashville? Yeah, Vanderbilt, I mean,
43:19
they're the story here. This is the reason they're on.
43:22
This is, you know, for us to talk to them.
43:26
Pavia, I mean, 28 touchdowns on the year, leads the team in
43:31
rushing 600 yards, you know, 2400 yards to the through the
43:35
air. I think that, you know, he's,
43:39
he's kind of he's, I want to say he's taking a step back in the
43:43
Heisman race, but he's certainly still in there.
43:48
Everybody knows him. He talked about him being one of
43:50
the last Yolo quarterbacks there with being older, older
43:54
quarterback. That's kind of been a theme for
43:55
us this year. This is at home.
43:58
I like Vandy to win. I just think there's a lot of
44:01
pressure on Vandy right now and I think this Kentucky team, ever
44:06
since Cutter Bully has been the guy freshman.
44:11
Of course he's going to have his lumps, but he has really grown
44:14
this year versus like AP rated teams.
44:18
He's over 70% passing. I mean, he's like, you know, in
44:21
the 60s for the year. But you can see, I mean, against
44:25
Tennessee, of course, their defense is questionable, but he
44:28
threw 5 touchdowns. He's really kind of come into
44:31
his own. So I think that they're going to
44:33
score on Vanderbilt. I think Vanderbilt is going to
44:36
outpace them and essentially win by, you know, a touchdown, maybe
44:40
even eight points. But 9 1/2 points is a lot of
44:42
points. I think it's open at 10 1/2 and
44:45
got back down pretty quick. Give me Kentucky with the
44:49
points. I think Vanderbilt wins.
44:52
I think they are one of these teams is just trying to survive.
44:55
This is, you know, on the, you know, got a rivalry game next
44:59
week with Tennessee. They know that that game is
45:02
important for them to get into the playoff.
45:04
This one, they just have to win. I don't know if style points are
45:07
going to be right here, right now with this team for this
45:11
game. I think basically they're like,
45:13
let's just get out with the dub. So give me Kentucky Plus 9 1/2
45:17
for this one. I was going to take the 9 1/2.
45:21
I'm laying it, man. This is November, Vandy is off
45:25
of a bye. I'm not sure if Kentucky is
45:26
actually, but off of a bye. They try to think of who to
45:31
compare this Kentucky team to and I think it's South Carolina
45:35
as far as like profile of team or they rank offensively and
45:39
defensively. I mean, I know it was September,
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but they beat South Carolina 31 seven in this game.
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I don't think that type of result is off the table for
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Vanderbilt here. I think Clark Lee's a very good
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football coach. I believe in that culture and
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what he's built. I think they're going to be
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locked in for this game because they have to be for every game.
45:58
I think this is still Vanderbilt where you don't have the luxury
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to look ahead to next week. I think that's a good thing for
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Vanderbilt in the in a good way. You're still just Vandy.
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And so it's disrespectful to give you 9 1/2 to lay 9 1/2
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points. I think that like it.
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So I think embodying the we are Vanderbilt.
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You treat every game like a big game.
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The elite unit on this field is Vanderbilt's offense.
46:24
This is I mean the top 25 rushing offense, a top 10
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scoring offense, a top 15 offense in yards per attempt
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passing. Like you said, Pavi has been
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elite this year. He should absolutely be in the
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Heisman conversation because Heisman not just a stat award.
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It's it's best player and I think best player a lot of times
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is impact on your team. Vanderbilt would not be where
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they are without Diego Pavi. Like what what he does for their
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offense both in the run and pass game that causes teams to have
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to play. Every asset of them is is
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special. And I think they win and cover
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against Kentucky. So give me the doors to lay the
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9 1/2. All right, we go to Oregon.
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USC 330 man Oregon laying 9 1/2 here.
47:13
I have felt two different ways about this on opposite ends at
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two different parts of this week.
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Daniel, who do you like in Eugene?
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I think for a lot of what you just said about Vanderbilt is
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kind of how I feel about Oregon, where I think that that team
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that can, you know, beat you up is still in there.
47:33
I think that playing a team like, you know, Iowa that they
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did a couple weeks ago, and then of course, USC just came off
47:39
playing Iowa. You saw what they were able to
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do against Minnesota, where they basically ratcheted to back up
47:46
and just, you know, beat them pretty, pretty.
47:49
The USC, they've got to win out to make the playoff.
47:55
I've got concerns about this team, but they showed a lot of
47:58
guts in the rain against Iowa last week.
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But they didn't cover, and Oregon has been covering.
48:07
They didn't cover against Iowa, but I think that Iowa's just
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like that for everybody. But give me Oregon.
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I like them to cover 9 1/2. I just think that this one could
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get sideways and you could kind of see the deflation when USC
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realizes that they're going to lose because this may be their
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hope for the playoffs. And I think that Oregon can kind
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of pile it on. So give me Oregon.
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I'm a lay the points 9 1/2 think they win big.
48:34
This is their kind of shot to try to punch their ticket at
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least in hopes that an opportunity opens up for them.
48:42
If Michigan were to win, they can make the Big 10 championship
48:44
or at 11 and one, be a contender for the CFP.
48:50
Daniel, I'm trying to new strategy this week.
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I didn't tell you till now these three games I've picked, I felt
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the opposite way on. And so then I picked the other
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side because I've been so bad against the spread and then
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looked for ways to help it fit why I would choose that team.
49:05
So I'm doing that here again. Give me the Trojans.
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Here's how USC can keep it close.
49:10
Number one. Rain is likely still for this
49:14
game. First it looks like it was with
49:17
the whole game. Now it doesn't look like that,
49:19
but rain likely. You know, this is still opponent
49:23
adjusted on a per paper at per play basis.
49:25
The number one offense in the country belongs to USCI.
49:28
Think that's going under the radar this year.
49:31
If this were an Oklahoma team, I think we'd be talking about this
49:34
sort of Oklahoma Big 12 team under Lincoln Riley, probably
49:37
undefeated. And we'd be talking about, you
49:39
know, how good this Oklahoma team is.
49:42
My worry is USC has not played well on the road this year.
49:47
Still. They did against Nebraska and
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that was important for me to see.
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Was that, OK, you can go on the road and get a big win because
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they did it so poorly against Notre Dame.
49:57
And then who is their other loss?
49:59
Illinois at Illinois earlier in the year they did.
50:01
They won against Nebraska. That was important to see.
50:05
But now they're on the road to Oregon.
50:08
I don't think they can win because I still think their
50:10
defense is a liability, but I think they can make it mucky and
50:14
keep it close. They're they're not getting beat
50:16
because they're not physical, which is how USC was 1-2 and
50:20
three years ago. So they're not losing for the
50:23
same reasons. They're still building there.
50:26
I think they can score enough to make this a A1 touchdown game
50:30
instead of A2 possession game. And so given the Trojans to
50:35
cover, I do like Oregon to win. USC has a much easier game next
50:38
week. Look, both teams control their
50:40
in playoff destiny and if you want to say who needs it more
50:43
than you know, Oregon can lose still.
50:44
And I just think if you win 10 games in the Big 10 or SEC,
50:48
you're most likely in Oregon can still lose again.
50:53
They play Washington next week. They've got to be locked in USC.
50:57
You lose a third game, I think you're definitely out for USC.
51:01
They need it. But I like Oregon to win.
51:03
Give me the Trojans to cover the night and a half.
51:07
The only game I'm telling about this.
51:09
Week that you've been doing the opposite like George Costanza
51:14
and we'll see, dude, you might go for a note because when he
51:17
did the opposite in that episode on Seinfeld, I mean, he got the
51:21
date with the pretty girl, he got the promotion at the job,
51:25
Everything went right for him the time he decided to do the
51:28
opposite. So this might work out for you.
51:31
Yeah, all right. It's the only game I forget
51:33
about all week, Daniel, And I'm not picking opposite on this
51:36
one. George Tech and Pitt.
51:39
Georgia Tech, a 2 1/2 point favorite on the flats at Hyundai
51:44
Field at Bobby dot Stadium. Look, Georgia Tech still in
51:49
control of their own playoff destiny, still in control of
51:51
their own ACC destiny. And in playing for that
51:56
championship game, they win, they're in Daniel.
51:59
This is their ticket to the ACC championship, their ticket to
52:01
Charlotte. Pitt also alive in the ACC
52:04
Championship race. Who do you like in this game in
52:06
Atlanta? Yeah, I, I, I played my hand a
52:09
little bit when I talked about Pitt being in the in the
52:13
playoff. I tried to bury the lead a
52:15
little bit by saying I could still pick Georgia Tech, think
52:19
George Tech can win and should win.
52:23
I just had been watching this team slowly, I want to say
52:27
unravel, but as they've played some of these games two weeks
52:32
ago, lose to NC State, OK, it was on the road.
52:36
It's a tough environment. Last week, everybody just
52:39
checked it off. They're going to win.
52:41
We don't even need to show up or talk about it.
52:44
They were in the fight of their lives until the clock hit triple
52:48
zeros. They still won, which is great,
52:52
you know, for their playoff hopes and everything like that.
52:55
I know the ACC people are like, if Georgia Tech just wins, it's
52:58
over. They've solidified their spot.
53:00
It makes it easy. But if they lose, it comes this
53:03
question of who's going to be in the championship game and all
53:07
this stuff. Haynes King's leading rusher,
53:10
He's obviously they're, you know, great in the past game
53:14
already over 3000 yards for the year combined, 24 touchdowns,
53:19
you know, 14 rushing touchdowns as a quarterback.
53:22
Unreal, dude. He's just he's been a
53:25
difference. And I'm I'm reluctant to pick
53:28
Pittsburgh because I do think that Georgia Tech has a lot of
53:31
pride and wants to win this game.
53:33
My heart says Georgia Tech, but I'm taking Pittsburgh because I
53:39
think that I would be mistaken if I took tag.
53:42
So give me PIT plus the 2 1/2. If tag finds a way to win by 1,
53:47
then I win both ways. How about that?
53:50
So, But yeah, give me PIT in the 2 1/2 points because I think
53:52
that they, I, they just think they're going to represent the
53:55
ACC man. I, I don't know, this whole
53:58
smokescreen that Pat Narduzzi has just confused the mess out
54:02
of me. So I don't know.
54:04
I just went with my gut last week that they should get blown
54:07
out by Notre Dame. I'm going with my gut this week
54:09
that they should beat Georgia Tech.
54:12
It's tough to wipe off a loss like that, though, So we'll see.
54:15
But give me a pit plus the points.
54:18
Daniel, they were, I'm taking pit to win straight up because
54:23
this, this is a look ahead spot, man.
54:25
They they were looking past Notre Dame to this Georgia Tech
54:28
game. You heard Pat Narduzzi, that was
54:31
not a big game, he said. I'm glad you asked.
54:34
You're like, Oh, no. Not.
54:36
A Not a big game. We can get beat, you know, he
54:39
told his team. Hey, we can lose 100 to 11 and
54:42
it does not matter if we win the next two.
54:44
He was given his team permission to just lay down, let Notre Dame
54:47
do whatever they want because if we win next week, we're going to
54:50
go to the ACC championship game. And that's exactly what they're
54:54
going to do, Daniel. They're going to go to the
54:55
Flash, going to be Georgia Tech because they're a more complete
54:58
team than Georgia Tech is Georgia Tech this year.
55:01
You know who's the best defense Georgia Tech has faced this
55:03
year? I'll do one better.
55:06
How about the best offense? Georgia Tech's giving up a ton
55:09
of points out of the Power 5 Daniel.
55:11
They rank for opponent adjusting metrics out of 68 Power Four
55:14
teams, 66th out of 68 Power Four teams.
55:18
As far as where their defense ranks, their past defense ranks
55:22
48th, their rush defense 66th. This is a pit team.
55:27
They can absolutely throw the ball.
55:29
They're OK rushing. And a pit defense that is very
55:33
like a top 15 level defense, it gets a top ten level offense
55:36
that'll be good on good. I think anyone can score in
55:40
Georgia Tech, so I think Pitt's going to score enough to win.
55:43
All they need is one stop. The Georgia Tech offense goes
55:46
out in the field knowing they have to score every single time
55:48
to win. Hans King does everything, which
55:51
is why he should be considered for the Heisman because he does
55:53
everything for that offense. I don't think it's going to be
55:55
enough to be Pitt. They've been preparing for this
55:58
game for two weeks, looking past little old Notre Dame to this
56:02
big one against Georgia Tech. Give me the Pitt Panthers to one
56:05
straight out. It's the only game I felt really
56:06
good about. I circled this one, Daniel, like
56:09
4 weeks ago we were talking and I said, yeah, Pitt's beating
56:11
Georgia Tech. Like Georgia Tech's losing one
56:13
of these games to NC State or Pitt and they lost NC State or
56:18
who did they play last week? Georgia Tech.
56:19
Last week, they played Boston College.
56:21
Boston goodness, I didn't see that one coming.
56:23
Say, yeah, they lost NC State, and then they were down to
56:26
Boston College for most of the game.
56:28
Had to goodness, he wrote. Come back at the end.
56:30
Yeah, give me, give me the Pit Panthers to win.
56:35
I'm getting 2 1/2 points. I like it.
56:37
They would be favored on a neutral.
56:38
That's what that's telling you right there.
56:40
Pit would be favored on a neutral.
56:41
Neutral or it'd be a pic depending on how many points
56:44
you're given for, for Bobby Dodd home field.
56:47
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