Latest / Black Girl Interrupted Podcast / What Is White Privilege??
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- 0:32Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Y'all? It's
- 0:35your favorite girl friend of five Oh fo, excuse me
- 0:38bringing you another beautiful episode of Black Girl Interrupted Podcast. Hey, everybody,
- 0:44Happy Tuesday. I hope everyone is having an amazing day.
- 0:51I hope everyone had a great weekend. I hope mothers
- 0:55and fathers. I know y'all are excited and ecstatic that
- 0:59these babies have gone back to school, because I know
- 1:03I am. My babies went back to school today. Y'all.
- 1:06We have a junior. We have a junior in high school.
- 1:10She is the last of the Mohicans and baby I
- 1:13am so excited. Oh but again, I want to say
- 1:17to all the parents, the aunts, the uncles, the cousins,
- 1:23wishing your children an amazing school year. Keep encouraging them,
- 1:28keep pouring into them, keep loving on them, and letting
- 1:31them know that the sky is a limit and whatever
- 1:35they put their mind to, they will always be a winner. Yes, yes, yes,
- 1:40and wait a minute, let me see. Yeah we're getting
- 1:46some clapping, some round of applause going on. But any who, again, y'all,
- 1:52welcome back to another episode of Black Girl Interrupted Podcast.
- 1:56What's your Favorite Girl? Ash And tonight's come sation. I
- 2:03might run for some feathers tonight with this conversation. I
- 2:08may lose followers. I don't know, but it is what
- 2:12it is. But it's long, do long overdue for us
- 2:16to have this conversation. So before we get started, anyone
- 2:21that knows how I start my show, I always do
- 2:24a mental health check in because I have to check
- 2:27the temperature. Mental health is so imperative and it is
- 2:30so important not only in the world but to me
- 2:35as a person that has dealt and continues to deal
- 2:38with depression and anxiety. As I stated before, I'm fully
- 2:43committed to showing up not just for me, but for
- 2:46you as well, because I know there are a lot
- 2:48of people out here that are struggling. I know there
- 2:51are people out here that don't have a safe space,
- 2:54that don't have a place to go to unpack, to decompress.
- 3:00And so why I created Black Girl Interrupted podcast. So
- 3:03before we get started, I always play something inspirational, something encouraging,
- 3:08something uplifting, because I want you to know I need
- 3:12you to keep going. I want you to know how
- 3:14resilient you are. I want you to know that I'm
- 3:16so proud that you did not give up. And that's
- 3:20a beautiful thing about Black Girl Interrupted podcast. So here
- 3:26we go and then we'll jump into tonight's conversation.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Commit you yourself to stretch, to get outside of your
- 3:38comfort zone and not be concerned about what people think
- 3:43about you, because they're thinking it anyhow. Don't worry about
- 3:47what they will say. They already saying it, So what
- 3:51do you care.
- 3:53Speaker 3: I hate Plan B because we have so many doubters.
- 3:59We have so many of those people that's in no,
- 4:01and you can't do it. That's impossible. That is okay
- 4:04because we just turn off, as I said earlier, and
- 4:07we listen and we hear the no being a yes,
- 4:11you can't do it, do it, you can't do it,
- 4:13and all that, so that that is possible to do
- 4:16that amongst all the negative people around you. But when
- 4:20you start doubting yourself, that's very dangerous because now what
- 4:25you're basically saying is is that if my plan doesn't work,
- 4:30I have a fallback plan. I have a Plan B.
- 4:33And that means that you start thinking about Plan B,
- 4:36and every thought that you put into Plan B you're
- 4:39taking away now that thought and that energy from Plan A.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Decide that that your life has so much meaning to
- 4:49the planet. Decide that you have something to give, That's
- 4:52why you're here.
- 4:54Speaker 3: So you don't just show up.
- 4:56Speaker 2: You brought something here. You're a journey. You have a destiny,
- 5:00mission to achieve, to do, to implement, to.
- 5:04Speaker 3: Perform, to experience.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Decide to commit yourself to be an.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Adventure in life.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Look out on life around you, look within yourself and say,
- 5:14where is it in my life that I need to
- 5:17make a commitment right now? Where is it that it
- 5:20might be for your health, it might be to be
- 5:22a happier person, It might be to make a difference
- 5:25in your community, it.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Might be there. Where is it I.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Say that commitment shows up? And the man or woman
- 5:33who has some ideas, some dream that they've been nurturing
- 5:37within themselves, and no one believed it, No one sought
- 5:40for them. That they weren't masters at it, they weren't
- 5:43experts at it. No one would build a statue and
- 5:46never call their name and recognize, and they never made
- 5:49it to the front page of the newspaper. But they
- 5:51had something that was there, something that was their baby,
- 5:55something that they loved and they believed in, and they
- 5:59just did what they could with what God gave them
- 6:01with their dream.
- 6:04Speaker 3: It is very important to understand that we function better
- 6:08if there is no safety net, because fland becomes a
- 6:13safety net. It says that if I fail, then I
- 6:17fall and I get picked up and I have something
- 6:19else there that will protect me.
- 6:24Speaker 1: M That one hit a little close to home for
- 6:28me today simply because this is the second year in
- 6:34a row that I have won an award for my podcast.
- 6:44Let me let that soak in for a moment. So
- 6:49i'mone year number two winning an award for my podcast,
- 6:55and I couldn't be more grateful for the opportunity me
- 7:03winning that award is way beyond the award. It's more
- 7:09so about the hard work and the dedication and the
- 7:13reward you get for your hard work and dedication. As
- 7:19I tell y'all every episode Black Girl Interrupted, the podcast
- 7:23is my baby, and I have to keep pouring into
- 7:29my baby. I have to keep feeding my baby. I
- 7:32have to keep nurturing if I want to see it grow.
- 7:39This is why you are seeing me show up faithfully
- 7:44because I want Black Girl Interrupted to go beyond just
- 7:49streaming on Facebook and YouTube. I want Black Girl Interrupted
- 7:55to be a household name. I want Black Girl Interrupted
- 7:57to be a space people say, oh man, I can
- 8:01go in there and I can relax and I don't
- 8:04have to worry about people judging me. I don't have
- 8:06to worry about people talking or using things against me
- 8:11on mad day because I've already told you everything you
- 8:14needed to know about me. So that's why I made
- 8:19the commitment again, not just to show up for you,
- 8:22but not just I'm sorry. Let me say that again,
- 8:25not just a show for me, but to show up
- 8:27for you, because I don't see a lot of spaces
- 8:30like this, you know. And that's not to say that
- 8:33they're not out there, the spaces that I've seen, and
- 8:36maybe I need to switch up things that I've view
- 8:38on on my for you page, but I see spaces
- 8:43where they're bashing black men and black women, black women.
- 8:47Ain't this black man? Ain't that? I'm so sick of
- 8:52seeing that. When are we gonna start having spaces where
- 8:56people come in and they hold themselves accountable but feel
- 9:00safe in the process of doing that. When are we
- 9:02gonna start seeing more spaces, excuse me, that promote mental
- 9:08health and provide resources for mental health, particularly in the
- 9:14black community. When are we gonna start seeing spaces where
- 9:18they're helping to remove the stigma of black men and
- 9:23black women going to therapy. I want to see more
- 9:28of those. I want my podcast to be in that,
- 9:32in that top range. I want to hear people say,
- 9:37oh man, she has some of the dopest conversations. She
- 9:41has conversations where she's holding not only men, but women accountable,
- 9:46Black men and black women accountable. She's having some of
- 9:50the most uncomfortable conversations that others will shy away from.
- 9:55I want to be in that conversation. I want Black
- 9:59Girl interrup that to be a part of that conversation. Again,
- 10:03I'm gonna I'm gonna keep showing up because somebody's watching me.
- 10:07There's somebody out there that's saying, oh man, what this
- 10:10girl is doing is dope. I'm not worried about the
- 10:15quality the quantity. I'm focused on the quality of work
- 10:20that I put out. I'm focused on the quality of
- 10:23conversations that we have. I'm focused on the quality of
- 10:27guests that I'm gonna start bringing on. Black Girl interrupted
- 10:30the podcast. So I'm not worried about who doesn't support me.
- 10:36Now I'm looking ahead. You understand because you may not
- 10:42support not but you may support later. I don't know,
- 10:45but I know whether you support or not, I'm still
- 10:49gonna keep showing up. I'm gonna still consistently keep showing
- 10:55up with Black Girl Interrupted the podcast period. Now enough
- 11:01of my little random, my little tangent. I'm so sorry.
- 11:05But again, my name is Ashley and I am the
- 11:10creator of Black Girl Interrupted podcast. And again, others may
- 11:15not know, but at the start of my show, I
- 11:17always do a mental health check in, always, always, always,
- 11:21as you see, I did play a video, just something encouraging,
- 11:25just something inspiring to let y'all know. Keep going, you know,
- 11:30stop worrying about who's supporting, stop worrying about who's doing this,
- 11:34and focus on you. Focus on the quality that you're
- 11:37putting out. Focus on your niche target, your audience, the
- 11:41target audience. Appease to the ones that you gravitate to,
- 11:46and stop trying to appease to everybody because not everybody's
- 11:49gonna like what you do, and just be okay with that.
- 11:52I'm cool with that. Some people don't like what I say.
- 11:55I see posts where people say, oh, they just keep
- 11:58giving people microphones. Maybe if you're stop and give it
- 12:01a listen. You might get some information from the podcast.
- 12:04You might get something conducive, you know, to your energy.
- 12:08But I'm gonna respectfully digress. But AnyWho, but dropping a comment,
- 12:15y'all let me know how you're feeling tonight again. Today
- 12:18is Tuesday, August the eleventh. I know a lot of
- 12:21parents are ecstatic that their children are now going back
- 12:24to school. So I know a lot of parents are overwhelmed.
- 12:29Some have kids that are just starting school, some have
- 12:31children that are graduating this year class of twenty twenty seven.
- 12:35So again, salute to you parents and a great job
- 12:38that you continue to do. Salute to the children. Just
- 12:44go be great, Just go be great? All right? All right,
- 12:50all right, So as we get into tonight's conversation, I'm
- 12:57gonna ruffle some feathers, brother says, another day above ground
- 13:01with my lovely family. Absolutely, I am so glad brother.
- 13:06I need to get with you after the show. I
- 13:11have a proposition for you that I need you to that.
- 13:15Let me not say I want you and would love
- 13:17for you to be a part of you always show
- 13:20up for me. So I know you're gonna show up
- 13:22for this one. Once I talk to you and tell
- 13:24you what it is. I already know you're gonna be
- 13:26down like full flats on a Cadillac. I'm not worried
- 13:30about that, So I'm gonna hit you up after the show.
- 13:34That is my brother, Marcus oh Man. What can I
- 13:39say about this dude, Like he's so awesome? He has
- 13:41a podcast? Brother? Why is my mind is so blank?
- 13:47But he talks about sports? He has He does his show,
- 13:52I know on Mondays and I've seen him on Thursdays.
- 13:55But please post in the comments and name me a
- 13:57podcast so that way I can get people to come over.
- 13:59I'm gonna so that way people can come and support
- 14:02you as well, because man, YouTube guys, man boy, y'all
- 14:08have an amazing show. And I love the conversation and
- 14:11I love the dialogue that I see amongst three outstanding
- 14:15black men that do it so eloquently without all the
- 14:19over talking and oh you did it. I love it.
- 14:23I love it. I love it. So Tonight's conversation again,
- 14:30I may ruffle some feathers with this, but Tonight's conversation
- 14:34is white privilege and what is it? Yeah? Yeah, I'm
- 14:42starting to see a lot of content on social media
- 14:51where you'll see things happening to black people, but you
- 14:57don't see it happening to whites. So I wanna discuss
- 15:01that there are a couple of cases that I wanna
- 15:07speak to simply because we're seeing the white get a
- 15:17slap on the wrist while our black men and black
- 15:20women and black boys and black girls are consistently well
- 15:23rooted by the system, same crime, just different outcomes. We
- 15:34got a couple of comments, let's see, alright. So my
- 15:40brother Marcus, it is called Two Sides to an Opinion
- 15:45is his first podcast and then Tuplex City the City.
- 15:51Please follow Marcus on all social media platforms, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok.
- 15:59He's everywhere, and when I tell you, he is dope,
- 16:02he is dope. He is dope. He's dope. He's dope.
- 16:04He's dope. When I tell you, I love popping in
- 16:09on his chats and listening to them talk sports. I
- 16:12love it. I may not be big into wrestling, but
- 16:14I know enough because my son is diehard wrestling fan,
- 16:19so I pick up a lot of stuff from him.
- 16:20But again, Two Sides to an Opinion and Suplex City
- 16:26to City are the two podcasts. Please please please go love,
- 16:30go support, go comment, like, share, subscribe because it takes
- 16:35zero dollars and it takes zero away from you to like,
- 16:39to comment, to share. Let's start supporting one another. But
- 16:46that'll be a whole different conversation for a different day.
- 16:52So white privilege, what is it again? I may ruffle
- 16:59some feathers with this conversation, People may unfollow, people may
- 17:04call me racist, whatever they want to do, and that's fine.
- 17:10But we cannot say that white privilege does not exist.
- 17:17We see this happening far too often nowadays. What is
- 17:23white privilege? Hm, let's get into it, and then let's
- 17:29jump back into the conversation.
- 17:34Speaker 5: Taxa, have you or anyone that you know ever had
- 17:37trouble hailing a cab? If your answer is no, then
- 17:41you might have white privilege. Here's how it works.
- 17:44Speaker 1: You may see your child.
- 17:45Speaker 5: When you look at him, Oka say, from the moment
- 17:50a white person is born, there afforded certain privileges. While
- 17:54the extent and nature of their privilege varies from country
- 17:57to country, one thing's consistent. If you're a white society,
- 18:01be like you out here? When it so, what's white privilege?
- 18:05In the words of Peggy Macintosh, A white scholar who
- 18:08started studying white privilege in the nineteen eighties. White privilege
- 18:11is an invisible package of unearned assets that I can
- 18:14count on cashing in each day, but about which I
- 18:18was meant to remain oblivious. In her essay White Privilege,
- 18:22Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, Macintosh even details dozens of examples
- 18:26of white privilege that she experiences in day to day life.
- 18:31For examples, white folks are able to turn on the
- 18:33television and see someone who looks just like them. She
- 18:36even details things like being able to find band aids
- 18:39that match her skin. And it works in three distinct ways. First,
- 18:44white privilege provides white people with perks. Some perks go
- 18:47on notice, like being able to actually use complimentary shampoo
- 18:50and conditioner at a hotel. These parks lead to a
- 18:53sense of entitlement because whiteness is the standard. Imagine how
- 18:58white women would react if hotels only carried shape boys strip.
- 19:02White privilege also creates measurable advantages. A white person is
- 19:06more likely to be approved for loans than black folks,
- 19:09and that's part of what has led to disparities in
- 19:11home ownership. Under forty two percent of black folks are
- 19:15homeowners compared to seventy two percent of white folks. And
- 19:20what about jobs. With the exception of Asian men, all
- 19:24groups make less than white men when we talk about
- 19:27median hourly earnings. This especially impacts black women. Black women
- 19:32make sixty two cents for every dollar that white men make,
- 19:35and we also make seventy nine cents for every dollar
- 19:38that white women make.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Not to mention that white people are able to.
- 19:43Speaker 5: Profit off of industries that have historically penalized black folks.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Just look at marijuana.
- 19:48Speaker 5: According to the ACLU, the use of weed is pretty
- 19:51much the same among black and white people, yet black
- 19:53folks are nearly four times as likely to be arrested
- 19:56for possession. When it comes to banking off of the
- 19:59billion dollar our industry, black folks.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Sir shut out.
- 20:03Speaker 5: About one percent of dispensary owners in the US are black.
- 20:07Speaker 1: Yep.
- 20:08Speaker 5: That has white privilege written all over it. And folks,
- 20:12we're only talking about weed here. The fact that there
- 20:15are major disparities and incarceration rates based on race is
- 20:19no surprise. Finally, white privilege has pretty much come to
- 20:23shape everyone's view of history. Everything we've ever learned in schools,
- 20:28every face on our cash money. Damn Near every page
- 20:31in textbook centers white people and has been written from
- 20:34the white perspective. These are the faces of our nation's heroes.
- 20:39Why does this matter, you say, Well, white privilege literally
- 20:42affects everything income, education, employment, incarceration, standing, housing, and even
- 20:48assembling real talk. So we think that a black person
- 20:51can protest while being armed and live to see the
- 20:55next step. These unearned handouts afforded to white folks are
- 21:01completely real and the effects of white privilege are measurable.
- 21:05And the words of dam And Young, editor in chief
- 21:07of Very Smart Brothers, what white privilege means for white
- 21:10people is that their whiteness hasn't been a social, political, professional, financial,
- 21:14or legal hindemance. They have the privilege of the benefit
- 21:17of the doubt, which manifests as the privilege to just
- 21:20be so now that you know, are we gonna destand
- 21:24as a white privilege or not? Real talk, real talk,
- 21:29real talk, real talk, real talk, real talk.
- 21:35Speaker 1: That video will not ever, will never not be funny
- 21:38to me. But what she said she made a lot
- 21:41of valid points. I was reading a post maybe about
- 21:49a month ago on Facebook where white men was degrading
- 21:57black people and he said black people were the highest
- 22:04welfare recipients until I had to go and dismantle his
- 22:12whole point of the post because white people receive more
- 22:21welfare because they're the largest population. I believe what I
- 22:29was looking at. Let me go back, let me pull
- 22:31this one back up. I'm gonna tell you, all right,
- 22:47So I should have had this pulled up, so I
- 22:49do apologize. So according to the USDA, which is the
- 22:56United States Department of Agriculture, when it comes to the
- 23:00racial breakdown of food stamp recipients, Whites thirty five to
- 23:08thirty six percent, African Americans, Black or African American twenty
- 23:15five to twenty six percent, Hispanic or Latino sixteen to
- 23:20seventeen percent, Asians three to four percent, and then your
- 23:26Native Americans one to one point five percent. Then he
- 23:31continues on to say black people don't want to work,
- 23:37black people don't take Black men don't take care of
- 23:39their children, according to the CDC. Because again, one thing
- 23:48for sure, two things for certain. You could argue with
- 23:50me all day, but you can't argue with stats and numbers.
- 23:54And that's what I'm gonna always bring you anytime I
- 23:56have these conversations is I'm gonna always bring your stats,
- 24:00I'm gonna always bring your facts. I'm not gonna bring
- 24:02you anything. Of course, I'm gonna always give enerject my opinion,
- 24:06but when it comes to specifics, I'm gonna give your stats.
- 24:10Because you can argue all day with me, and I
- 24:12don't have a problem with that, but you can't argue
- 24:14with the stats, and you can't argue with the numbers.
- 24:19White men rink. Let me let me correct this. Black
- 24:29men rink. I wanna see during the time that I
- 24:35look at this, forty six or forty seven percent higher
- 24:39than Whites, Asians and Latinos when it comes to taking
- 24:42care of their children. So stop saying that black men
- 24:48don't take care of their children, or they're not they're
- 24:50not in the household. Yes they are, Yes they are.
- 24:57They are. It's just the media just doesn't want you
- 25:01to see that. The media wants you to keep believing
- 25:04that black men don't take care of their children. The
- 25:08media wants you to keep believing that black people are
- 25:11the highest when it comes to being welfare recipients. Again,
- 25:20you can argue with me, but you can't argue with
- 25:22the numbers. Can you can't argue with the facts. I
- 25:29believe white people make up sixty seven or sixty eight
- 25:32percent of the people in the world, so of course
- 25:41there's going to be a bigger number. We're not even
- 25:45close to being sixty or seventy percent make up in
- 25:50the population black Americans are. When you look at jobs,
- 26:01I really wish they would remove race off those job applications.
- 26:05Does it matter what if I'm yellow with zebra stripes,
- 26:09as long as I could do the job, what color
- 26:11I am should shouldn't matter, So I don't check it.
- 26:17I don't check it. And then when you start talking
- 26:20about DEEI who the DEI benefit not the blacks. Again,
- 26:30Argue with me all you want, but you can't argue
- 26:32with the facts. Affirmative action. A lot of y'all wouldn't
- 26:41be over here if it weren't for the civil rights movement.
- 26:48Y'all benefited from us. But yet we're disrespected every day.
- 26:53We're disregarded every day. But yet when things go awry,
- 26:58you're calling for us to come help. No, we're resting.
- 27:02We're resting. Now we're on dude. I let me just
- 27:06say for me, I'm gonna do not disturb I'm gonna
- 27:09do not disturb. And then if we look at how
- 27:15the judicial system works, we have all these black boys
- 27:27that are turning up there and deaths are being ruled
- 27:36as suicides or no foul play. I was looking at
- 27:45a case here in Texas and hey, cousin, it's good
- 27:56to see your baby. So I'm looking at this case
- 28:00because I want to still continue to spotlight Carmelo Anthony
- 28:06despite how some of you may feel. Carmelo Anthony got
- 28:12into altercation with Austin Metcalf, a white teenager here in Texas.
- 28:22Austin Metcalf lost his life. Carmelo Anthony went to try
- 28:28and was sentenced to thirty five years first defense. This
- 28:32baby's never been in trouble. Was convicted of murder because
- 28:36the judicial system didn't feel or warranted as self defense.
- 28:44But then you have case and Allison Caucasian was about
- 28:51the same age as Carmelo when he committed murder, but
- 28:57was sentenced to ten years. Initially he was facing had
- 29:04he have been convicted of murder, he was facing anywhere
- 29:07from five to ninety nine years. Okay, So I went
- 29:11down the rabbit hole with this case. Him and Joe
- 29:18Ramirez got into an altercation at a off school event.
- 29:22I believe it was a homecoming party or a prompt party.
- 29:28There was a gun that was fired someone. Case and
- 29:33Allison thought it was Joe Ramirez. Come to find out
- 29:36it was not him that fired the gun. So a
- 29:42few days later, there's a altercation at the school. Joe
- 29:46Ramirez is stabbed four times and dies. Case and Allison
- 29:53left and went home, but claimed self defense. Again. I
- 30:04went down the rabbit hole with this case. There were
- 30:09snapchat messages that were recovered that Case and Allison was
- 30:14having with his friends about fighting Joe at school. Case
- 30:21and Allison brought a weapon to school. Okay, he brought
- 30:27a weapon to school. There were some exchanges between the
- 30:33two boys. They fought in the bathroom. Joe didn't have
- 30:39a weapon, but Case and Allison did. Joe would stabbed
- 30:44four times four but y'all say their self defense. Carmelo
- 30:54Anthony was bullied by five to six individuals. Now, let's
- 30:59look at Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo Anthony's he's five to five,
- 31:03one hundred and thirty five, one hundred and forty pounds,
- 31:06and you have five to six big people hovering over you.
- 31:13He stabbed Austin one time and stayed. But y'all say
- 31:20that's murder. Negligent homicide wasn't on the table. Manslaughter, None
- 31:29of that was afforded to Carmela Anthony, a young black
- 31:33male in Texas. But you have caseon Allison, a white
- 31:39boy who was only facing five to ninety nine years.
- 31:43He was initially sentenced to two years, but the family
- 31:48of Joe Ramirez pushed for the deadly weapon enhancement, so
- 31:52he was only charging He was only given ten years
- 31:54for negligent homicide. Let me run that back for you.
- 32:04You stabbed someone four times? How was that self defense?
- 32:08And then you left? There were snapchat messages between Cason
- 32:15and some of his other friends stating what he was
- 32:19gonna do to Joe when they got to school. You
- 32:23intentionally brought a weapon to school intentionally, So can we
- 32:29take self defense off the table? Can we stop saying
- 32:33that that was self defense because you knew you were
- 32:36going to fight Joe, you brought a weapon. Joe did
- 32:39not have a weapon on him, So how was that
- 32:41self defense when you stabbed him four times and left. Carmelo,
- 32:51on the other hand, again, wasn't afforded that opportunity. Carmelo
- 32:57Anthony was sending to thirty five year first offense. You
- 33:06can't tell me that that's not white privilege. You cannot
- 33:10tell me that. Let's look at this case and then
- 33:18we're going to get back into the conversation because you're
- 33:21not going to convince me that white privilege is not
- 33:23a real thing.
- 33:25Speaker 4: Here we go, and he was sentenced to nearly eighty
- 33:30years behind bars. But now there's Oklahoma teenage baseball prodigy
- 33:34is avoiding prison altogether, and his victims loved ones say
- 33:38the justice system failed them. Brooke Taylor is following in
- 33:41the story She's live in Dallas. Brook tell us all
- 33:43about it. How did it happen?
- 33:46Speaker 6: A Hi?
- 33:47Speaker 3: John?
- 33:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:47Speaker 6: We spoke to the mother of one of the victims
- 33:50who says that their heart is just broken here and
- 33:53the family feels like there is really just zero justice
- 33:56in this case because the suspect avoided jail time and
- 34:01he was able to essentially just walk free. Jesse Butler here.
- 34:05He is now eighteen years old. He was originally charged
- 34:08as an adult. In March, he pled no contest to
- 34:11a laundry list of violent sex charges, including first degree rape,
- 34:16domestic assault, battery by strangulation, and also violation of a
- 34:23protective order.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Now, according to.
- 34:24Speaker 6: Police affidavits, both victims were sixteen year old students also
- 34:29at Stillwater High School in Oklahoma, and they were his
- 34:32girlfriends at the time. They described being repeatedly raped and strangled.
- 34:37The details in these court documents are extremely disturbing. Here,
- 34:41Butler was seventeen when these crimes happened and reached a
- 34:45deal with the District Attorney's office that had his status
- 34:48changed from adult to youthful offender. Now, the court found
- 34:52him guilty and sentenced him to seventy eight years in prison,
- 34:56but because he's now considered a youthful offender, he got
- 35:00to avoid prison time and was put on a rehabilitation plan.
- 35:04The victims family says the DA's office should not have
- 35:08signed off on this deal, but this is a small town.
- 35:11Football runs the show, and the families point to Butler's
- 35:14father's influence because he's the former director of football operations
- 35:19at Oklahoma State University.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Now.
- 35:22Speaker 6: The mother of one of the victims told me quote,
- 35:25this was the first time we needed the justice system.
- 35:29We placed our trust in it. Sadly, we feel the
- 35:32system has failed the victims. State Representative J. G. Humphrey
- 35:36is now calling for an investigation.
- 35:41Speaker 4: We need an investigation into what's actually going on.
- 35:45Speaker 1: And get evidence to prove that this core is corrupt
- 35:50and that they are letting sex spenders go.
- 35:55Speaker 6: And we asked the Payne County DA why they agreed
- 35:58to this plea deal. They shared a lengthy statement, in
- 36:01part quote because the two counts of attempted rape were
- 36:04the only alleged crimes among the eleven charge that even
- 36:08qualified the case for filing an adult court. And additionally,
- 36:12existing laws strongly favors providing offenders under eighteen an opportunity
- 36:18for rehabilitation. Now Butler is going to have daily check ins.
- 36:22He's also going to have weekly therapy sessions in order
- 36:26to avoid that jail time. But if he violates anything
- 36:30then he could be reclassified as an adult and could
- 36:33face that prison time.
- 36:34Speaker 4: John Football runs the show. I haven't heard that one before,
- 36:38brit Taylor, Forrest Brook, thank you.
- 36:40Speaker 6: Hey everyone, I'm Emily Campano. Catch me and my co hosts,
- 36:44Harris Faulkner and Kaylee Mcanenni on.
- 36:47Speaker 1: So I want to get into this case. Jesse Butler,
- 36:55you can't tell me that is not white privilege. You
- 37:00have a seventeen year old monster, because I'm gonna call
- 37:03it what it is. He's not mental. And that's another thing.
- 37:10Stop saying that this is a mental illness when these
- 37:13are demonic spirits. Okay, let's stop saying that. Let's stop saying, oh,
- 37:20he needs therapy. No he doesn't, because he this young
- 37:25man great two girls, one of which had to have
- 37:31neck surgery because he strangled this girl almost to the
- 37:35point of killing her. He was facing almost eighty years
- 37:42in prison. You understand eighty eighty years and you're Scott free,
- 37:56record sealed, and you're off to college while these two
- 38:01young ladies are left to deal with being violated. Yet again,
- 38:10you can't tell me that it's not white privilege. I'm
- 38:15so sick of y'all saying that, Oh, it's not it's not.
- 38:17Yes it is. We just saw it right now with
- 38:22Jesse Butler. I just told y'all about Case and Allison,
- 38:25same state, same situation. Carmelo Anthony was in Case and Allison,
- 38:36different cities, same thing. Carmelo got thirty five years Case
- 38:42and Allison got ten. And again, the only reason he
- 38:45got the additional eight years on top of the two
- 38:47year sentence was for the deadly weapon enhancement. That's the
- 38:54only reason. But now he is fouled in a which
- 39:01he has every right to. Again, I'm not an attorney,
- 39:03I'm not a lawyer, but he has ever right. But
- 39:06you want this ten year sentence to be overturned due
- 39:10to y'all saying y'all want the deadly weapon finding removed.
- 39:14Are you serious you intentionally brought a weapon to school
- 39:19to fight? If your intent was not to bring was
- 39:24not to kill Joe Ramirez, what was the purpose of
- 39:27you bringing this knife to school? Because see, I'm gonna
- 39:31go back and forth with y'all all day because y'all
- 39:33kept saying, Old Carmelo, he shouldn't have had this, he
- 39:36shouldn't have had that. Cason Allison shouldn't have brought a
- 39:39knife to school either. Then, and he stabbed a young
- 39:45man four times and left again. Snapchat messages were recovered.
- 39:58But see a lot of y'all not ready to have
- 39:59that conversation. A lot of y'all are not really ready
- 40:02to sit down and let's compare apples to oranges. Some
- 40:04of y'all not ready to do that some of y'all
- 40:07just say, oh, Carmelo Anthony, Oh he deserves Oh he
- 40:10deserved life in prison. He took a life. Keithon Allison
- 40:13took a life, and you only got ten years for
- 40:14neglige and homicide. And again, he would have only been
- 40:23given two years had the family not a thought for
- 40:26the daily weapon enhancement. That's why that's white privileged for you.
- 40:35I see these videos of white men and white women
- 40:40getting into it with police officers, and then if you
- 40:44look further down the road, they're laughing and having conversations
- 40:48with them. Hey, yo, she I love you too, boutiful,
- 40:58I love you too. God just girl, But you can't
- 41:03tell me that white privilege doesn't exist. I look at
- 41:08the former OnlyFans model who was charged with second degree murder,
- 41:16who just pleaded to manslaughter and was only given six
- 41:20years for stabbing her boyfriend, of which she's gonna get
- 41:25credit for time, sir. So in other words, she'll be
- 41:27out in maybe two years, eighteen months. And the sad
- 41:32part about this is the man's family signed off for
- 41:35y'all agree to this. I do know that any sentence
- 41:43that a person is given is not gonna bring your
- 41:45loved one back, but at least fight to have justice
- 41:49for them. Fight for the justice. If something were to
- 41:53happen to one of my children, I'm a fight for justice.
- 41:57I'm gonna fight it, toothennail, I'm gonna fight it all
- 41:59the way to so my child can get justice. No,
- 42:05there's no sentence in the world that would bring your
- 42:08loved one back. But stop allowing these people to play
- 42:12in your face when it comes to justice for the
- 42:15death of your loved one. We see this far too often.
- 42:19I understand the stress and the anxiety of going through
- 42:24the trial. I get it, but I'm not settling just
- 42:31to get it a conviction. I'm not agreeing to that
- 42:36you take one of my children's lives. I want to
- 42:39see you punish to the extent, to the highest extent
- 42:41of the law. I'm not no, no, and you can't
- 42:48make me feel otherwise. I'm gonna shore up for every
- 42:53court date, every day that I have to be there,
- 42:55I'm gonna show up. But we have to stop allowing
- 42:59these people a playing out face. Stop agreeing to the
- 43:04person that took your child's life or your loved one's life,
- 43:08and be okay with them doing three years in prison.
- 43:10Are you serious? No, because see I'm doing a life sentence.
- 43:18You understand we're doing a life sentence, but y'all agree
- 43:24to this. I look at the Dylan Rooth case. That's
- 43:32the story of the monster that walked into a church
- 43:37and sat and praised and worship with these parishioners, only
- 43:41to execute nine of them. And he was taking four
- 43:45meal after the after it was done. I'm looking at
- 43:54the Nolan Wells case and how they're moving. It's weird
- 44:01to me, My sister, say, a life for a life?
- 44:05Ain't there what the Bible say? I for an eye?
- 44:12When are we gonna start fighting back? When are we
- 44:14gonna stop settling? Because how dare you get a slap
- 44:22on the wrist for taking someone's life. Someone sent me
- 44:28a message earlier and was talking about the George Floyd case.
- 44:31I said, I believe the only reason they convicted Derek
- 44:35Chauvin is because they were about to burn Minnesota down
- 44:38to the ground if they didn't get a conviction. I
- 44:45look at the case of Sandra Massey, Sonya Massy. I'm
- 44:51so sorry. I'm thinking Sandra Blanc. She is on my heart,
- 44:54in my mind and day this police officer want special
- 45:00privileges because you have cancer. I should feel sorry, but
- 45:06I don't, because you took that woman's life for what.
- 45:14So we should show compassion for you because you have cancer.
- 45:19You knew that when you at the time you come
- 45:21into the crime, you knew you had cancer. So I'm
- 45:24supposed to feel sorry if you know. I'm so sorry
- 45:29because you took you you robbed this family so evily.
- 45:38I look at the I look at Tamir Rice, I
- 45:40look at the Philander Castilee, I look at the Oscar Grants,
- 45:46I look at the Trayvon Martin. So you can't sit
- 45:51and tell me that white privilege doesn't exist. I see
- 45:59these care in videos that they approach a black person.
- 46:06You interject yourself in something that has nothing to do
- 46:09with you, and then all of a sudden, you're the
- 46:10victim and the police side with you. I just saw
- 46:15a video yesterday. Eighteen year old young lady pulled over
- 46:20for quote unquote speeding and was punched in the face
- 46:24while she was handcuffed by an Arkansas State trooper. And
- 46:33you hear him on camera say, who says, I can't
- 46:36punch you in the face, So let's stop acting like this,
- 46:47White privilege is not a real thing. Let's stop acting
- 46:54like that. Let's take the blindfold off, Let's take the
- 46:57blinders off, and let's see the truth for whatever really
- 47:01truly is. Because it's out there, it's happening. We're seeing this,
- 47:08We're seeing this repeatedly. But yet they tell us you
- 47:16need to comply, go fight it out in the court
- 47:19of law. For Landocas still complied and he still lost
- 47:22his life. I look at Sean Bell. Sean Bell was
- 47:34about to get married, was coming out of his bachelor party,
- 47:38lost his life in New York. I look at I'm
- 47:45gonna do Diallo. A lot of y'all don't remember these names,
- 47:49but that's how that goes to I'm not new to this.
- 47:52I'm true to this. I see white privilege every day.
- 48:01I see some of my black counterparts that I work
- 48:03with that have the skills, the education, or do the job,
- 48:08and they're passed over for someone that has less experienced,
- 48:15no degree and maybe zero to six months of education.
- 48:24We see this, We see this in schools. We see this.
- 48:41But just to circumvent back to that case that I
- 48:44was speaking of with Case and Allison, here we go.
- 48:53Speaker 7: Tonight a new development and a former built in high
- 48:55teens appeal to overturn his conviction in ten year prison
- 48:58sentence just a year after his sentencing six years. Reporter
- 49:01Sidney Walker has the latest in case in Allison's legal battle.
- 49:04Speaker 1: Sydney.
- 49:05Speaker 8: Allison's lawyers are appealing, but the state says none of
- 49:08their reasons warn't reversing the conviction, the deadly weapon finding,
- 49:13or his ten year sentence case. And Allison's attorneys are
- 49:16appealing the former Belton High students criminally negligent homicide verdict
- 49:21and ten year prison sentence for stabbing and killing classmate
- 49:24Joe Ramirez. They argue three key mistakes happened in his trial. First,
- 49:29the appellent outlines jurors were never told they could consider
- 49:32self defense for the lesser charge of criminally negligent homicide. Second,
- 49:36Allison's team says prosecutors failed to disprove Allison acted in
- 49:40self defense, bringing up details from the trial like Ramirez
- 49:43punching Allison first. And Third, the deadly weapon finding. A
- 49:47jury never explicitly said a deadly weapon was used in
- 49:50their verdict, a judge did, and it wasn't during the trial.
- 49:53According to the appellant. Six News spoke with legal analysts
- 49:56Liz Mitchell before the deadly weapon enhancement was approved, explained
- 50:00the impact it could have.
- 50:02Speaker 9: There is an affirmative finding of a deadly weapon, the
- 50:05judge cannot give the defendant probation, so whether or not
- 50:11there is a deadly weapon finding in this case is
- 50:15critically important.
- 50:17Speaker 8: The deadly weapon finding took Allison's max sentence from two
- 50:20years to ten, but the Bell County DA's office says
- 50:23none of it holds up. They argue Allison's lawyers never
- 50:26asked for the self defense instruction and say self defense
- 50:29isn't compatible with the negligence charge in the first place.
- 50:32As for evidence, the state points out several counter details
- 50:35like Alison bringing the weapon to school, allegedly planning a fight,
- 50:38and stabbing Ramirez multiple times. And on the deadly weapon issue,
- 50:42prosecutors say Allison chose to let the judge decide his punishment,
- 50:46and Texas law allows that judge to make the finding.
- 50:50The defense is asking for a new trial, an acquittal,
- 50:53or a new sentence without the deadly weapon finding. The
- 50:56Texas Third Court of Appeals has until July twentieth to rule, so.
- 51:03Speaker 1: Let's unpack that real quick, because you brought a knife
- 51:09to school. Again, If y'all go down the rabbit hole
- 51:17and really do your research regarding this case, you'll see
- 51:23what I mean when I say that was not self defense,
- 51:28because again, there were messages, snapchat messages were he was
- 51:33exchanging I'm sorry, Cason was exchanging with his friends saying
- 51:37he was gonna fight Joe. Joe didn't have a weapon.
- 51:43You claim self defense, but you stabbed him four times.
- 51:50You intended to kill him because you thought this through.
- 51:56I saw on a post that someone said, oh, that
- 51:59sounds like mental No, it's not. That sounds premeditated, because
- 52:05you consciously made a decision to bring a knife to
- 52:08school to fight. If all you wanted to do was fight,
- 52:12what was the knife for? What did you need to
- 52:14bring it for? Joe didn't have a weapon. Maybe he
- 52:19didn't know Joe didn't have a weapon. I don't know.
- 52:23But you stall have this baby four times and then
- 52:28you left and went home. But you say self defense,
- 52:34and again y'all heard it for yourself. He was only
- 52:37sentenced to two years only until the family pushed for
- 52:44the daily weapon enhancement. There was legal findings of a
- 52:48daily weapon, and that was the knife that Joe that
- 52:51I'm so sorry Casen brought to school. The judge ruled
- 52:54on that maybe he got that first offense. But why
- 53:05wasn't Carmelo Anthony afforded the same thing? Carmelo Anthony was bullied.
- 53:16I'm not saying this because Carmelo was black. I'm saying
- 53:18I'm standing on the side of right. So why was
- 53:22this not afforded to Carmelo Anthony? Why was this young
- 53:25man who had never been in trouble, never been arrested,
- 53:30never been the jail, was convicted of murder and sentenced
- 53:34to thirty five years. Why was manslaughter not offered to him?
- 53:37Why was neglige jehomicide not offered to him? Y'all can
- 53:40sit up here and say, oh, but he was y'all
- 53:42don't know. And from my research and the things that
- 53:50I've read, there was nothing even on the table for him.
- 53:59Y'all keep saying, Oh, this was an attorney his family hired.
- 54:02He was a quarter pointed attorney. Anyone that knows the
- 54:06law that has been in trouble know that the quarter
- 54:08porn attorneys do not work for you. They work for
- 54:11the state. And I know this to be true because
- 54:17I was facing twenty years in prison for aggravator for
- 54:21felony aggravator to saw with a daily weapon with a
- 54:27quarter point of the attorney h But I'll save that
- 54:38conversation for another day, so you can't tell me that
- 54:45in the case in Allison's case and the Carmelo Anthony,
- 54:49same state, two different cities, same issue, only difference. Carmelo
- 55:00Anthony didn't bring a weapon on the pretense of knowing
- 55:05he was gonna be jumped or harassed or bullied by
- 55:09five to six people. But casein Allison, did you knew
- 55:17you were gonna fight Joe? You said it, and I
- 55:22believe Joe wanted to fight, But I do not believe
- 55:25Joe wanted to lose his life either. So again, white
- 55:32privilege is not a real thing. You don't believe it is.
- 55:40I just gave you two examples. Also gave you another
- 55:45one about the young lady in Miami who was charged
- 55:49with a second degree murder but was allowed to plead
- 55:52guilty to manslaughter and was only given six years with
- 55:59credit for time, sir, so should be out in about
- 56:01eighteen months to maybe two years. And this was a
- 56:05woman that had a history of being violent towards her boyfriend,
- 56:12a history. The videos came out where she's slapping and
- 56:18punching all them on it in the elevator. But y'all
- 56:29are okay with this. Y'all feel like it's fair. Old
- 56:39justice was served. And then you have the families that
- 56:43agree to this. If you intentionally murder one of my children,
- 56:52I'm not agreeing to a plea deal of manslaughter and
- 56:58you're only giving five a six year in prison. Absolutely not.
- 57:01I want you to stand there because if I have
- 57:04to do life without my child, I want you to
- 57:06do life in prison. I want you to get thirty
- 57:08five to forty years, and I want you to serve
- 57:10the max. I would show up to every parole hearing
- 57:16to ensure that you do not harm anyone else in
- 57:19this world. But this is what we do. We settle.
- 57:28And again, as I stated earlier, I understand the stress
- 57:32of having to go through a trial, the stress of
- 57:34having to look at autopsy photos, the stress of having
- 57:38to listen to testimony not only maybe from witnesses, but
- 57:42the medical examiner who has to point out this person
- 57:47was stabbed here, this person was stabbed there, or this
- 57:49person was shot here. We recovered seven bullets from the body.
- 57:53I get it. I understand. I'm showing the compassion, I'm
- 58:03showing the empathy, but I want the justice also. I
- 58:10want the justice for the loss of my loved one.
- 58:18I want things to change in the world. I want
- 58:22this is and this is my opinion. I want the
- 58:27loss to change. The only thing that I've seen so
- 58:35far that they got right was the young man that
- 58:37they sentenced to those life sentences in Georgia that shot
- 58:41up at school, and they held the father accountable for
- 58:45him because he purchased the gun. I want more media coverage.
- 58:56I made a post a couple of days ago about
- 59:01how quiet it has been about the young man that
- 59:05went to the in and out in Idaho and shot
- 59:09up and shout out the place of business where I
- 59:11believe two or three people died. No coverage, But y'all
- 59:19strong Carmelo Anthony's trial and case every day. But then
- 59:27y'all will turn around and say, oh, he was mental. No,
- 59:30he wasn't calling what he was. He was demonic. Look
- 59:37at the school shooters that call him by him Sandy hook,
- 59:43Santa FEI should I keep going y'all keep saying these
- 59:51people are mentally ill. That's the problem. Now, this is
- 59:54why there's a stigma around mental health. Stop calling everything
- 59:58mental illness, because when y'all start doing your investigation and
- 1:00:04you find these manifestos, that's premeditated. To me, that's someone
- 1:00:09who clearly sat and thought to write out what they
- 1:00:13were going to do. A lot of people who upset
- 1:00:19with Rodney Hinton Senior, who in a moment of depression
- 1:00:29of losing his son, who was shot by a police officer,
- 1:00:35who ran over a police officer charged with murder, and
- 1:00:41y'all mad, We're tired, we are fatigued. Do you understand
- 1:00:52every day for the last six seven months, we've lost
- 1:00:59our black children so violently and it's oh, it was
- 1:01:04an accident, no foul play. I'm looking at this Nolan
- 1:01:10Wells case. All the all the players in this are
- 1:01:16moving so weird and funny to me. Why are y'all
- 1:01:20not calling for this medical examiner's job to be taken?
- 1:01:25Do you understand how many people have just lost their
- 1:01:27lives in Mississippi in less than a month. They just
- 1:01:33found a young lady hung in a tree in her
- 1:01:36backyard in Mississippi. You got Nolan Wells. They found out
- 1:01:45a young lady. I believe she was either either thirteen
- 1:01:48or fourteen shot, but ain't nobody made What about the
- 1:02:00two hundred and fifteen bodies they found buried behind the
- 1:02:03Mississippi prison. No outrage, No outrage about Jesse Butler. No
- 1:02:20outrage about the young man in California that walked in
- 1:02:22the library and started firing in a library, killing two people.
- 1:02:30No coverage. But if someone black comits a crime, oh,
- 1:02:38we're gonna talk about that till the end of time.
- 1:02:41That's gonna be everywhere. So again, you can't tell me
- 1:02:50that white privilege doesn't exist. We see this all the time.
- 1:02:59But I want to let them know, oh that you
- 1:03:01may have freedom of speech, but you're never free of
- 1:03:03consequences because trust and believe karma doesn't miss a person
- 1:03:11or forget an address. You keep saying, oh, racism is
- 1:03:19not real yet. It is, Yes, fifteen years old, shot
- 1:03:26in the face. But y'all keep saying white privilege.
- 1:03:33Speaker 7: Is not real.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: It's not real. It's not real. It's not real yet.
- 1:03:35It's I've experienced it. I was told I was bitter
- 1:03:43because I want a gate keep stuff in our community.
- 1:03:46Y'all do it. It's okay if y'all do it, but
- 1:03:49it's a problem if we do it. I'm gonna always
- 1:03:53be pro black always. I'm gonna always fight for the
- 1:03:59ones in the right that looked like me. You understand.
- 1:04:02But that doesn't make me racist, because the same way
- 1:04:06you protect yours, I'm gonna protect mine. I don't care
- 1:04:11how you slice the bread. I don't care how you
- 1:04:13cut the pizza. I don't care how what type of
- 1:04:15ice and you put on your cake. I'm always gonna
- 1:04:18fight for the right of me. My sister says, some
- 1:04:23girls allegedly shot her over some boy. Oh lord, that's
- 1:04:30so disgusting to me. That is so disgusting over a boy.
- 1:04:42That is the most heart breaking, heart wrenching, gut riching
- 1:04:45thing ever disgusting. This world is so evil, And then
- 1:04:55you have a president that condons this, that incites this,
- 1:05:02and y'all can't see that, my sister says, correct, And
- 1:05:08y'all can't see this. One thing. I want to let
- 1:05:12y'all know we're not our ancestors. Some of y'all that
- 1:05:20support this, I believe you would have told on Harriet
- 1:05:24Tell me, I believe you would have. But again, white privilege,
- 1:05:39it's a real thing. We see it. I have some
- 1:05:47white friends that see it too and have told me
- 1:05:51about their experiences and have said, white privilege is a
- 1:05:58real thing. I've heard them talk about it. I've heard
- 1:06:09them scream and shout it from the rooftops. So it
- 1:06:17is a real thing. It's a true thing. It's something
- 1:06:20we experience every day, whether it's in the workplace, whether
- 1:06:24it's excuse me, in the hospitals. We see this consistently.
- 1:06:34Black women are treated horribly by white nurses and white doctors.
- 1:06:43We see this, see this, and y'all not upset about it.
- 1:06:55Y'all keep saying, oh, well, what are we gonna do?
- 1:06:57Complaining about it, keep talking about it, keep having this conversation,
- 1:07:01keep bringing in to the forefront. Stop being afraid to
- 1:07:05shake the table, Stop being afraid to open up the envelope,
- 1:07:08Stop being afraid to call a thing what it is.
- 1:07:11You understand, that's the problem with y'all, because y'all don't
- 1:07:13wanna offend people. I don't have a problem. And I'm
- 1:07:23not saying all white people are bad, cause I know
- 1:07:27some bad black people. I know some bad Asians, some Hispanic.
- 1:07:31I know bad in all races, because that's the first
- 1:07:36thing y'all wanna run to. Oh it, it's bad, I
- 1:07:39know that. But I wanna talk about the privileges that
- 1:07:43are afforded to y'all that we don't get. We can't
- 1:07:47walk in a bank with a business plan and a
- 1:07:53million dollars or five hundred thousand dollars and open up
- 1:07:55a business without the run around, without the red teeth.
- 1:08:01We can't do that. We we we're not afforded that opportunity.
- 1:08:07Y'all keep saying yes, we are, Yes, we are, Yes,
- 1:08:10we are. No, we're not. So again, you cannot tell
- 1:08:21me white privilege is not real. They make it hard
- 1:08:25for us to get houses. I'm glad that they lord
- 1:08:29the credit score now you only need to I believe
- 1:08:32now it's a six twenty. I'm grateful for that. But
- 1:08:43let's call a thing a thing. Let's stop tap dancing
- 1:08:48around these conversations, and let's start opening up. Let's start
- 1:08:54peeling these layers back and get down to the root
- 1:08:57of it, and again call a thing of thine. Let's
- 1:09:04call it what it is. Of course, we're not treated equally,
- 1:09:12absolutely not we see this, we hear about it, We've
- 1:09:19experienced it, we experience it every day, and y'all keep saying, Oh,
- 1:09:32but you gotta keep doing this, you gotta keep doing that.
- 1:09:34We're tired, we're tired of being your shields. You run
- 1:09:45to us when you need us, but then when you
- 1:09:49don't need it, you throw us away and throw us
- 1:09:51back in the closet until you need us again. And
- 1:09:53here we all, we keep showing up. We keep showing
- 1:09:59up for the ones that won't show for us. At
- 1:10:05what point do we say, you know what, I'm not
- 1:10:07gonna keep doing this. You're not gonna keep using me.
- 1:10:09I'm not your punching bag. I'm not your scapegoat. We
- 1:10:19see it in movies, we see it in TV shows.
- 1:10:22We see these reenactments of how whites use their privilege
- 1:10:27to get out of certain situations. I saw a video
- 1:10:32of a white man who had an encounter with the
- 1:10:34police and he had a baseball bat was swinging and
- 1:10:39everything we see this. He wasn't shot, he was tased,
- 1:10:53and then it was a conversation that was had. But
- 1:10:55what's going on, buddy? Oh really? But with us, we're
- 1:11:05questioned to the third degree but whose vehicle is this?
- 1:11:09How can you afford something nice like this? Really? Not
- 1:11:12all of us are drug dealers and game bangers and
- 1:11:14rappers and NBA stars. Why is it so hard to
- 1:11:20believe that black people could have nice things and we
- 1:11:22could afford nice things. My sister says, you better speak,
- 1:11:27and I am. I've seen these routine traffic stops. And
- 1:11:35then you hear the white people in the commons say, oh,
- 1:11:37you should just comply, you should do this. What's wrong
- 1:11:40with us knowing the law? Are we not supposed to
- 1:11:43know it? So we're supposed to allow public servants who
- 1:11:50are who took an old to serve and protect mistreat
- 1:11:54us and we're supposed to be okay with that. No,
- 1:12:01because see, for us, a traffic stop warrants one or
- 1:12:04two things, death or jailed. One thing that white people
- 1:12:12hate is the educated black men or woman. That's what
- 1:12:22they fear the most is when we're educated about things
- 1:12:28they feel we shouldn't know nothing about, specifically the law,
- 1:12:38because see a lot of us don't know and we
- 1:12:44just go whatever they tell us. Then they say, oh,
- 1:12:47well take it and fight it in court. Let's handle
- 1:12:51it right here. Let's talk about how when they pull
- 1:12:57us over, they come to the car with their hands
- 1:13:00already on the gun. For what we'll get out of
- 1:13:07the park For what make it make sense to me?
- 1:13:19Help me do understand this, because that'll never sit right
- 1:13:25with me. It'll never sit right in my spirit, because again,
- 1:13:38I look at all these cases, and I don't when
- 1:13:43I see these videos, I don't just go based off
- 1:13:46of the little clip that they show, because I need
- 1:13:49to know the backstory before I pass judgment, before I
- 1:13:54interject my opinion or my thought. So I go down
- 1:13:58the rabbit hole and I'll investigate and then draw my
- 1:14:06own conclusion from what I find before I form an opinion.
- 1:14:15I've heard people when they sit when Trayvon Martin was killed,
- 1:14:20Oh he deserved that, he was this. They loved dragging
- 1:14:23up their past. But what does that have to do
- 1:14:28with the crime in hand. But when you see the
- 1:14:34white people, it's oh, he came from a broken home,
- 1:14:37his mother was an alcoholic. There was no furthering that
- 1:14:40to get on her sympathy. No, because I've seen him
- 1:14:47come from two parent households and still turn out to
- 1:14:49be murderers. But there's that white privilege again. There It
- 1:14:58is see a lot of y'all don't like to have
- 1:15:04these conversations because the first thing you say, oh, you're racist.
- 1:15:11I told you just because I'm pro black doesn't mean
- 1:15:14a man's a white. But I'm here to call a
- 1:15:18thing a thing. I'm here to address it. I'm here
- 1:15:20to bring it to the table. I'm here to put
- 1:15:22it on the forefront because I have white friends that
- 1:15:27are real cool, but they still not invited to the cookout.
- 1:15:38You still not cause you're not sending to me no
- 1:15:40country club invitations. Call me what you want, but I'm
- 1:15:49gonna always fight for the justice of the ones that
- 1:15:52look like me first, because we're the ones that need
- 1:15:55the most protection. We're murdered at higher rates, conviction rates
- 1:16:07are higher. White people get a slap on the wrist.
- 1:16:17Is that fair? Is that not privilege? I want you
- 1:16:24to do your own research. I want you to run
- 1:16:28down a rabbit hole yourself and get the information and
- 1:16:31find out what I mean when I say there's a
- 1:16:34big difference between how whites and blacks are treated. White
- 1:16:42privilege is a real thing. The question is how do
- 1:16:47we dismantle it. We gotta start fighting, We have to
- 1:16:55start protecting our own. We have to We need to
- 1:16:57start running to the polls. Put the right people in position.
- 1:17:07Go in and be loud. If y'all could be loud
- 1:17:11about fighting in Waffa house and and oh I ran
- 1:17:15and just got the new pair of Jordans. Be loud
- 1:17:17about something that makes sense. I don't give a damn
- 1:17:20if you when it stood in line for ten hours
- 1:17:22trying to get the newest pair of Jordan's, I don't
- 1:17:24care if you want to stood in line for eight
- 1:17:26I was trying to get a brand new iPhone. I
- 1:17:27don't care because that makes zero sense to me. But
- 1:17:34then you say that, and you complain about what's going on.
- 1:17:39Go be a part of the change. Oh, my little
- 1:17:45brother says, there aren't enough people like you. Truth is spoken,
- 1:17:49and not enough people listen to it or act on it.
- 1:17:54God bless you. But there's good and bad in all.
- 1:18:01You want to see a difference, You want to see change.
- 1:18:04Go and be a part of it. Go and be
- 1:18:08a part of the change. Start having these conversations, start
- 1:18:16opening up. You'll be surprised at some of the stories
- 1:18:25that you'll hear from your white friends, your wife, coworkers
- 1:18:33that will tell you how they utilize their privilege. There's
- 1:18:38one that works with me and she shared with me
- 1:18:46and I said, oh, okay, that's cool. And she bragged
- 1:18:57about having zero experience, no degree, and how she was
- 1:19:01promoted over the black man that had the experience and
- 1:19:06the degree. So it's a real thing. One of the
- 1:19:15things that I appreciate the most are the ones that
- 1:19:21take the time to listen to what I have to
- 1:19:24say and don't just brush it off, that are willing
- 1:19:29to understand, that are willing to explain as I'm willing
- 1:19:33to explain. I appreciative with that. But it happens, and
- 1:19:43it's a real thing. But it's up to us to
- 1:19:50change that. I may not live long enough to see that,
- 1:19:56but I pray that my children and their children, and
- 1:19:59the and their children will continue to fight because we're tired.
- 1:20:08We're tired of fighting to prove that we're the best.
- 1:20:11We're tired of fighting to prove that we are qualified.
- 1:20:16We're just downright tired. We are just downright fatigued. We
- 1:20:24just downright have no energy left in a soup. Maybe
- 1:20:30that's why we're resting. Maybe that's why we're resting. Maybe
- 1:20:38we're tired of being your stepping stones. Maybe that's what
- 1:20:46we're tired of. Maybe we're tired of the unfair treatment
- 1:20:52that we receive in the workplace, in the hospitals, by
- 1:20:58law enforcement, by the judicial system. We're tired, same crime,
- 1:21:06just different outcomes, same job, same position, just another person selected.
- 1:21:18We're just downright exhausted. We're tired. We are when I
- 1:21:21tell you, I am so fatigued that I see these
- 1:21:27videos and read these cases, and hear about these cases,
- 1:21:31and investigate these cases. Or justice is not being served
- 1:21:39where they're just giving a slap on the wrist and
- 1:21:41sent home these police officers. Maybe police brutality will stop
- 1:21:50if you start taking their pensions. Maybe that'll stop. Maybe
- 1:21:58it'll stop if we take it to the highest extent
- 1:22:02of the law with them, soothe them civilly. Maybe if
- 1:22:09the immunity for the boys in blue is removed, maybe
- 1:22:12we'll really see some true justice. Laws need to be changed.
- 1:22:20Had a conversation with my boy about stricter gun laws.
- 1:22:28I want more coverage for these school shootings. Maybe that'll
- 1:22:34convince someone to have stricter gun laws. Maybe that will
- 1:22:37remove the stigma. As I stated, around mental health again,
- 1:22:41because anytime things like this happen. They always say, Oh,
- 1:22:43it's mental illness, or he was beat as a child,
- 1:22:46he was this, he was that. Okay, well, let's talk
- 1:22:49about the ones that weren't abused. Let's talk about the
- 1:22:51ones that come from well to do families, two parents' households,
- 1:22:54live in the suburbs, went to some of the best
- 1:22:56schools and commit murder or go out and commit crimes.
- 1:23:06Because it's always that rhetoric, fair or unfair. I just
- 1:23:16know I'm tired. I need a mental break us to
- 1:23:23see all these stories in these cases. Maybe because I'm
- 1:23:28an EmPATH, maybe that's the problem. But I want to fight.
- 1:23:36I have it in me. I have the voice, I
- 1:23:38have the platform. I want to fight, and I'm gonna
- 1:23:42keep fighting. You can't silence me. You can't take away
- 1:23:47a gift that God gave me. I'm gonna always advocate
- 1:23:54first for the ones that look like me because everyone says, oh,
- 1:24:02you're just a bitter, racist black woman. Call me what
- 1:24:05you want. I've been called worse. Call me whatever makes
- 1:24:10you sleep good at night. Call me whatever you want
- 1:24:13that keeps the the your sheets cold at night. I
- 1:24:17don't know, but I'm pro black before anything. I'm pro black,
- 1:24:26I'm pro equality for my people. I'm pro that. I'm
- 1:24:34pro for fair treatment. I'm pro for better treatment when
- 1:24:39it comes to not just healthcare in the workplace. Because
- 1:24:48some of y'all see it, some of y'all just turn
- 1:24:50a blind eye to it. But here's your reminder. I'm
- 1:24:57not turning a blind eye to it. I'm gonna always
- 1:25:02stand on the side of right, though. When my people
- 1:25:06do bad, I call them out. When we're right, we're right.
- 1:25:16But let's stop using that insane White Brothers doesn't exist
- 1:25:23because we know it does. Another show in the bag
- 1:25:31for the book, Spade Man, I just want to say
- 1:25:37I love y'all so much. I appreciate all the love
- 1:25:40and the support that y'all give me each and every
- 1:25:43time I'm in front of this camera, each and every
- 1:25:45time I'm behind this microphone. I posted me winning two years.
- 1:25:55Speaker 7: In a row.
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: An award for my part. But I couldn't have done
- 1:26:02it without y'all. I get up here and I do
- 1:26:06this each and every day, each and every week to
- 1:26:11open the door to have these conversations. That's why I
- 1:26:15do this. But I also do to show y'all what
- 1:26:20hard work and dedication looks like even on the days
- 1:26:26that I don't feel good, I get up here and
- 1:26:29I push through because I made a commitment, because I
- 1:26:34have a vision for a black girl interrupt the podcast.
- 1:26:40This is my heart and my soul, this is my baby,
- 1:26:47That's what this is. I love doing this. I love
- 1:26:52having these thought provoking conversations. I love having conversations about
- 1:26:57topics that most people will shy away from it because
- 1:27:00they don't want to offend people. I love that because
- 1:27:05not only do I not only am I trying to
- 1:27:08teach you, but y'all teach me to look at both
- 1:27:12sides of the coin. Y'all teach me that there's good
- 1:27:17and bad in everybody. But y'all also teach me to
- 1:27:23be unapologetic. Y'all teach me how to just keep being
- 1:27:28Ashley and to keep doing it is what I do,
- 1:27:35and I appreciate that because it's good to learn from others.
- 1:27:40You understand and said it instead of just having a
- 1:27:43one sided opinion. I'm open to hearing anything anyone has
- 1:27:47to say. That's called conversation, that's called dialogue, and I'm
- 1:27:56here for that. So anyway, So shout out to your
- 1:28:02girlfriend women two years in a row for women who podcast, Yeah, baby,
- 1:28:07I want two years in a row. I love it.
- 1:28:10I'm grateful. Shout out to women who podcast for affording
- 1:28:13me the opportunity to even submit my work, for them
- 1:28:16to even take the time to listen to my work,
- 1:28:19and to encourage me to keep going. Shout out to
- 1:28:24women who podcast again for teaching me that it's quality
- 1:28:29over quantity, because they told many said, as long as
- 1:28:33you give quality work, the quantity will come. So I
- 1:28:37say that to anyone that is an entrepreneur, a business owner,
- 1:28:41someone that's getting started, whatever it may be, keep going,
- 1:28:47Stop focusing so much on whose support, stop focusing on
- 1:28:50the numbers, and focus on the quality of work that
- 1:28:53you want to put out. Regardless of how many times
- 1:28:57you fall down, get back up. It's out there and
- 1:29:02it could be done. I do this to show y'all
- 1:29:07that if I could do what you could do it.
- 1:29:09Whatever you put your mind to, whatever you put your
- 1:29:11heart into, you can make it work. You could succeed.
- 1:29:18Keep going, Keep going, keep going. So I want to
- 1:29:24say to y'all, Happy Tuesday. I hope everyone has had
- 1:29:29an amazing day. Oh my brother Joshua says congrats Ash
- 1:29:35and to Bgi, keep up the great work and purpose. Absolutely,
- 1:29:40thank you for the love and the support. Thank you
- 1:29:44for those thought provoking conversations and your input. Whether we
- 1:29:50agree or disagree, I appreciate it because you challenge me
- 1:29:54to think about things. You challenge me to look at
- 1:29:57things in a different way. You challenge me to do
- 1:30:01my research, You challenge me to always bring facts and
- 1:30:05not just opinions. So I appreciate you for that. Love
- 1:30:10bug I do, I do. But I also want to
- 1:30:16say to y'all, Happy Tuesday. I hope everyone has had
- 1:30:20an amazing day. I hope your week goes amazing. Don't forget.
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- 1:31:12appreciative again of the continuous love and support that y'all
- 1:31:15showed me each and every time this camera cuts on,
- 1:31:18this microphone says ready, I will see y'all tomorrow night.
- 1:31:23Tomorrow night is Wednesday. I'm debating if I want to
- 1:31:28do wellness Wednesday this Wednesday, if I want to wait
- 1:31:31till next Wednesday. But AnyWho, uh, We're gonna be back
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- 1:32:01for September, I am opening up for guests because I
- 1:32:05do want to start spotlighting on black entrepreneurs. I don't
- 1:32:09care what your what you what your entrepreneurship is. I
- 1:32:13don't care what kind of business owner you are, if
- 1:32:16if you're selling shoelaces, if you're making cakes, whatever it is.
- 1:32:19I want to talk to you. I want the world
- 1:32:21to know who you are. I want the world to
- 1:32:23see you know. My podcast is not this big old podcast,
- 1:32:27but hey, you gotta start somewhere, you understand, So excuse me.
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- 1:32:57I am spotlighting black entrepreneur. It was the entire month
- 1:33:01of September. So if you want to get your business
- 1:33:05in front of people, hit your girl up and let's
- 1:33:07and let's sit down, let's make magic and I'll rub
- 1:33:12your back and you rub mine. So on that note,
- 1:33:15I love you, I love you, I love you, I
- 1:33:17love you, I love you. I hope everyone has an
- 1:33:19amazing rest of their night. I hope everyone has a
- 1:33:23beautiful day at work tomorrow. Again. Salute to all the
- 1:33:26parents who send their children back to school today. Wishing
- 1:33:30your children a successful school year. And parents, listen to
- 1:33:34your children, you understand, take the time and listen to them.
- 1:33:37Don't just hear them, but really truly listen to them
- 1:33:40because a lot of them have a lot to say.
- 1:33:42So on that note, I love you, I will see
- 1:33:44you tomorrow night. God bless you, Hollor.
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