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- 0:02Speaker 1: In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
- 0:06Speaker 1: ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make
- 0:11Speaker 1: sense of it all. This is movies and marketing.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Next Saturday nights, where's sending that to the future? Go ahead,
- 0:22Speaker 2: make my day cover out now, you're crazy, Dutch bastard.
- 0:26Speaker 3: What we've got here is failure. You mill Gate take
- 0:31Speaker 3: them around, where as fresh hole of pal or we
- 0:34Speaker 3: might as well with them. I am an f I.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Agent, So listen. We love to start the show off
- 0:44Speaker 2: with a little trivia kind of or factoid or whatever.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Do we love it?
- 0:51Speaker 2: Yeah? I think we love it.
- 0:52Speaker 3: I mean we keep doing it.
- 0:54Speaker 2: We're fiends for trivia. So I thought I'd come with
- 0:56Speaker 2: a little knowledge today and a trivia question.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Drop it.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Did you know that the average modern movie trailer contains
- 1:05Speaker 2: roughly one hundred and twenty to one hundred and fifty cuts.
- 1:09Speaker 2: If you compare that to the trailers from the eighties,
- 1:12Speaker 2: they had fewer than forty. Just think about that, because
- 1:15Speaker 2: if you watch trailers from back then and then you
- 1:18Speaker 2: watch them now. We talk about this all the time,
- 1:20Speaker 2: like the trailers have gotten so good. A lot of
- 1:22Speaker 2: times in the past they would tell so much of
- 1:25Speaker 2: the movie because they weren't cutting a lot, they weren't
- 1:28Speaker 2: bouncing around in the trailer, and so sometimes they just
- 1:31Speaker 2: weren't very interesting.
- 1:32Speaker 3: They're a lot slower if you watch some of them now.
- 1:35Speaker 3: But I kind of disagree they told you more. I
- 1:38Speaker 3: feel like almost now, sometimes you feel like you've seen
- 1:40Speaker 3: the whole movie.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Oh, because there's more information.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Yeah, visual information. You're getting so much of it.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see what you're saying there. Recently, I
- 1:50Speaker 2: was trying to get my son to watch Rainman, and
- 1:54Speaker 2: watching Rainman's trailer, I was like, this is not a
- 1:57Speaker 2: good indicator of what this movie is about, because I'm
- 1:59Speaker 2: thinking about it from his brain because he's used to
- 2:02Speaker 2: the trailers today. And I was trying to defend it.
- 2:06Speaker 2: I'm like, don't go by the trailer. And that's the
- 2:10Speaker 2: opposite of what we talk about, like the movie. Trailers
- 2:12Speaker 2: are the thing that gets you in the theater, that
- 2:15Speaker 2: should entice you to watch the movie.
- 2:17Speaker 3: You know what the worst is if you're ever thinking
- 2:19Speaker 3: about watching something or trying to get your kids to
- 2:22Speaker 3: watch something, and you look for a trailer on like
- 2:25Speaker 3: Apple or one of the streaming sites and it's just
- 2:28Speaker 3: an older movie and it's just.
- 2:30Speaker 2: A clip, Yeah, a clip from the movie.
- 2:32Speaker 3: You're like, ah, that's not a trailer. Don't package it
- 2:37Speaker 3: up like it's a trailer when it's just like a
- 2:40Speaker 3: full scene and it's almost like not even cut appropriately.
- 2:44Speaker 3: It's almost just like they drop you in and then
- 2:46Speaker 3: they just stop. They're just like, let's just give them
- 2:48Speaker 3: a random selection from the movie.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Originally, I used to think that that was because when
- 2:54Speaker 2: we made this transition to digital, I thought it was
- 2:57Speaker 2: just a lack of information that they had migrated over
- 3:00Speaker 2: from the old medium. But there are still those movies
- 3:03Speaker 2: out there that have those where they just drop you
- 3:06Speaker 2: into that scene and you're like, why does this still exist?
- 3:09Speaker 2: You know, it should be a trailer.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd feel like there's a trailer for almost everything,
- 3:14Speaker 3: right should be.
- 3:16Speaker 2: So that leads me in a little bit into the trivia.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. Okay, see if you
- 3:20Speaker 2: know this, what movie trailer is generally credited with changing
- 3:25Speaker 2: movie marketing forever?
- 3:29Speaker 3: Off the top of my head, I'm gonna say Jaws,
- 3:31Speaker 3: just because I think that's like the one that kind
- 3:33Speaker 3: of changed the blockbuster.
- 3:34Speaker 2: It's a really good guess. It is not as it
- 3:37Speaker 2: came a little bit after that, The Shining nineteen.
- 3:40Speaker 3: Eighty Oh, the Shining, Okay.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Yeah, So Kubrick's teaser is just the elevator doors opening,
- 3:47Speaker 2: you know, as the gallons of blood pour out for
- 3:49Speaker 2: over one minute. I think we've talked about this trailer
- 3:52Speaker 2: probably in the past, but there's no plot, no actors
- 3:56Speaker 2: or anything, no dialogue. It proved at the time that
- 3:58Speaker 2: you could sell the movie on just the emotion instead
- 4:02Speaker 2: of the story. Changing the way we see trailers in
- 4:05Speaker 2: movie marketing, it's big. It's good because trailers. We've talked
- 4:08Speaker 2: about this all the time. Just like posters, trailers are
- 4:11Speaker 2: the purest form of marketing because they have that one job,
- 4:15Speaker 2: which is to get you to buy the ticket, and
- 4:17Speaker 2: they don't have two hours to convince you. They've got
- 4:19Speaker 2: like a minute or two minutes.
- 4:21Speaker 3: I like that one. That's a good example, and I
- 4:23Speaker 3: wish there were more trailers that just kind of did
- 4:25Speaker 3: something a little bit different, you know what I mean. Yeah,
- 4:27Speaker 3: sometimes you get a teaser that kind of does that,
- 4:29Speaker 3: but they all kind of follow a similar format for
- 4:32Speaker 3: the most part. You know, it's great leading because today
- 4:35Speaker 3: we're talking about trailers, specifically fall movie trailers. We've got
- 4:40Speaker 3: a new season rising upon us, so we're gonna go
- 4:45Speaker 3: into those a little bit. And you know, this fall
- 4:48Speaker 3: shaping up to be one of the most fascinating movie
- 4:51Speaker 3: seasons and years, not just because there are a lot
- 4:54Speaker 3: of big movies, but because they're coming from every direction.
- 4:58Speaker 3: We've got superhero movies, we've got but prestige dramas, horror movies,
- 5:03Speaker 3: literary adaptations, star driven originals, and a surprising number of
- 5:08Speaker 3: ambitious films from major directors. The results is a release
- 5:14Speaker 3: calendar that's unusually diverse and a little unpredictable. So while
- 5:20Speaker 3: you're probably saying we're still it's still summer, you guys
- 5:22Speaker 3: need to relax. Were already getting trailers. Man, We're getting
- 5:25Speaker 3: trailers for all these fall big releases. And if you
- 5:29Speaker 3: know this show, we love a movie trailer. We love
- 5:32Speaker 3: to look at them, we love to talk about them.
- 5:34Speaker 3: And today we're gonna dig into five, count them, five
- 5:38Speaker 3: of the most popular fall movie trailers out right.
- 5:41Speaker 4: Now.
- 5:41Speaker 2: This is fun because you know, I'm already ready to
- 5:44Speaker 2: get out of the summer. The summer movie season.
- 5:47Speaker 3: It's over for you. It's dead to you.
- 5:50Speaker 2: It's really taking its toll on me this year, not
- 5:53Speaker 2: because we're at a point where you are clearly going
- 5:55Speaker 2: to tie up our drafts. That part doesn't bother me.
- 5:58Speaker 2: It's more of like how les down I was by
- 6:02Speaker 2: my movies, as you're like, we were talking about this
- 6:04Speaker 2: before the cast. Just sad. It's just like sad underperforming.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Nothing performed how I thought it was gonna at all,
- 6:12Speaker 2: and even some on your list right underperformed, which we
- 6:15Speaker 2: were like, surprisingly, So yeah, this summer movie season it's
- 6:21Speaker 2: dead to me.
- 6:22Speaker 3: You know, there's obviously some big movies out right now,
- 6:25Speaker 3: and there's a couple surprise movies are doing a little
- 6:28Speaker 3: better than expected, but probably far more movies that you're like,
- 6:31Speaker 3: I thought this was gonna be a little bigger than
- 6:33Speaker 3: it was, and it kind of fizzled out a little bit,
- 6:35Speaker 3: which happens, but yeah, you know, it happened to you
- 6:38Speaker 3: quite a.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Bit, It really did. You don't even need to smack
- 6:43Speaker 2: talk of that. It's just like I'm over here with
- 6:45Speaker 2: my head in the sand like an Ostrich dude. I
- 6:47Speaker 2: don't Yeah, it's really pathetic anyway, fall movies I'm ready
- 6:52Speaker 2: for all right.
- 6:53Speaker 3: So let's talk through these. Our first movie, our first
- 6:56Speaker 3: of five we're going to talk about is the trailer
- 6:59Speaker 3: for Practical Magic two, out September eighteenth. No magic is
- 7:07Speaker 3: stronger than Sisterhood, Cast by fate, tested by time, and
- 7:13Speaker 3: never broken.
- 7:15Speaker 1: What is wrong with you?
- 7:17Speaker 3: Are you like sixty? Are you six? That we're Owen's Women?
- 7:26Speaker 4: Not as how I'm doing it, but if you guys
- 7:28Speaker 4: were all just a little bit dramatic, here's the thing
- 7:32Speaker 4: about your magic. It won't be silenced.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Now real. Are you familiar with the you know, world
- 7:42Speaker 3: of practical magic? Have you seen Practical Magic one? I've
- 7:45Speaker 3: never seen it. It came out nineteen ninety eight, which is, yeah,
- 7:50Speaker 3: almost thirty years ago. I don't remember it being like
- 7:53Speaker 3: a particularly big deal.
- 7:55Speaker 2: You know, must have a cult following of some sort. Yeah, didn't, or.
- 8:01Speaker 3: People are just like, let's, you know, let's get the
- 8:03Speaker 3: gang back together. But yeah, so I went into this
- 8:07Speaker 3: a little bit unfamiliar. So that was where I'm kind
- 8:10Speaker 3: of coming to this with, and I thought it looked,
- 8:13Speaker 3: you know, fine. It starts off with Nicole Kimmen pantsing
- 8:18Speaker 3: Sandra Bullock. That happens early in the trailer, which is
- 8:20Speaker 3: something I never thought i'd see. But yeah, great, you know, great,
- 8:25Speaker 3: great something to see. Yeah, two sisters, right, are they sisters?
- 8:29Speaker 3: I think they are. I thought they were like friends.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I think they're sisters.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't make sense. They don't look like sisters.
- 8:36Speaker 2: I didn't say they're identical twins. Yeah, but I don't know.
- 8:41Speaker 2: I think they are, but I could be completely wrong.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Yeah, but we see him doing some light magic, like
- 8:47Speaker 3: stirring a drink without using their hands, and as the
- 8:51Speaker 3: trailer goes on, it gets a little heavier into the magic.
- 8:54Speaker 3: There's some children involved. I didn't totally understand what the
- 8:58Speaker 3: plot is here. There's a guy that comes in. I mean,
- 9:02Speaker 3: I guess you're just getting like, hey, these two are together,
- 9:05Speaker 3: they're vibe, and it's supposed to be fun and funny.
- 9:07Speaker 3: I didn't totally think it as funny. There's some big
- 9:10Speaker 3: evil something to do with the kids. You get like
- 9:13Speaker 3: a sense of the plot without really understanding the plot.
- 9:16Speaker 3: But maybe I'm lost because I didn't see the first one.
- 9:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a little bit of that. I
- 9:20Speaker 2: think they're pulling from the fact that you should know
- 9:24Speaker 2: because they are sisters, and I think their family is
- 9:27Speaker 2: cursed and the curses about love, So I think that's
- 9:30Speaker 2: what this movie is sort of bringing back, and I
- 9:32Speaker 2: kind of like that. It's a romantic com not a comedy,
- 9:37Speaker 2: but you know, it's sort of like not that serious.
- 9:40Speaker 2: It's light, it's not super I mean there might be
- 9:42Speaker 2: some darkness to it, dark magic. I like that part
- 9:46Speaker 2: of this in the trailer is like it does give
- 9:49Speaker 2: you the vibe like you could see super heavy autumn aesthetic.
- 9:55Speaker 2: So great for the fall.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Halloween movie.
- 9:59Speaker 2: The Lady for the Ladies.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem to have something I you know, as uninitiated,
- 10:04Speaker 3: I wasn't totally like brought into this world and being like, Okay,
- 10:08Speaker 3: this looks good. Even though I like both these actresses.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Our next trailer coming off this one kind of interesting
- 10:15Speaker 3: because we have a former husband and wife going against
- 10:18Speaker 3: each other a little bit. We'll see, you know, practical
- 10:21Speaker 3: magic too. September eighteenth. We've got Digger with Tom Cruise
- 10:25Speaker 3: coming on October second from Warner Brothers.
- 10:33Speaker 4: Digger here got us ender this mess, and Digger's gonna
- 10:36Speaker 4: dig us out again.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Well let's go Woo.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Help you shape the story.
- 10:44Speaker 3: They already know the story, they know the facts.
- 10:47Speaker 2: The story. He had to be told.
- 10:51Speaker 3: When all else fails.
- 10:52Speaker 4: You hit it with the truth, you know, the hard truth,
- 10:55Speaker 4: just bang bang bang, whoa, whoa.
- 11:03Speaker 3: When I saw this in the movie theater before the
- 11:05Speaker 3: Odyssey with like a big crowd, a lot of people
- 11:08Speaker 3: were kind of like, uh, like you could hear it,
- 11:11Speaker 3: you could feel the air a little bit, like, I
- 11:15Speaker 3: don't know that people are going to be into this.
- 11:17Speaker 3: There's like, you know, he's like holding this like dead
- 11:22Speaker 3: catish puppet thing is like.
- 11:25Speaker 2: I thought that. I thought that part was actually kind
- 11:27Speaker 2: of funny. I was like, what is this.
- 11:29Speaker 3: I'm so curious about it. I'm gonna be in the
- 11:32Speaker 3: movie theater for this movie without a doubt. But I
- 11:35Speaker 3: don't know that this trailer, I don't know that it's
- 11:38Speaker 3: selling the mainstream on it, you know what I mean.
- 11:40Speaker 3: So unless it comes out and everybody's like it's so amazing,
- 11:44Speaker 3: you need to see it, I don't know that people
- 11:46Speaker 3: are like, I'm gonna be their opening day.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Based on this. No, no, yeah, it's weird. It's it's
- 11:52Speaker 2: weird and sometimes, you know, we've talked about this before.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Weird can be a marketing strategy for sure. I mean
- 12:00Speaker 2: everything kind of looks the same, you know, give me
- 12:02Speaker 2: something new, this definitely does that. Being weird and kind
- 12:07Speaker 2: of memorable in that way isn't always necessarily appealing to everyone.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Do so, like I'm in the minority, I think you
- 12:14Speaker 2: might be in the minority wanting to see it because
- 12:17Speaker 2: you're just sort of intrigued by it. I'll give him this.
- 12:20Speaker 2: He just does his thing. I mean, I'm assuming this
- 12:24Speaker 2: is like a passion project type thing because he doesn't
- 12:27Speaker 2: do movies for no reason. He always picks movies for
- 12:31Speaker 2: a reason.
- 12:31Speaker 3: I feel like, Yeah, and he hasn't really done anything
- 12:34Speaker 3: like this for a while. Yeah, he's been kind of
- 12:37Speaker 3: a mission impossible land, so he hasn't really done anything
- 12:40Speaker 3: where he's like really playing a character, like kind of
- 12:43Speaker 3: going for it. Maybe since like Collateral or something like that.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Maybe that when he played that guy in t Tropic Thunder.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like Collateral meets Tropic Thunder here,
- 12:53Speaker 3: So he's really playing a character. I'm happy to see that,
- 12:56Speaker 3: Like I'm interested in that cruise. That might be my
- 12:58Speaker 3: favorite cruise when he's just kind of going off the
- 13:01Speaker 3: rails and like really trying to act.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not put off yet, I will see you
- 13:07Speaker 2: know what I mean. But I am fascinated about what's
- 13:10Speaker 2: going on here. I don't know what it is, but
- 13:12Speaker 2: it's the unknown.
- 13:13Speaker 3: Yeah, well, their next one is the known. We've seen
- 13:18Speaker 3: it before in a different iteration. This is kind of
- 13:20Speaker 3: the behind the scenes of something we've seen before. It's
- 13:23Speaker 3: I play Rocky out November thirteenth.
- 13:29Speaker 2: You need to show everyone who you are.
- 13:32Speaker 4: I like this girl Sylvester.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Sylvester, that's right, his real name.
- 13:37Speaker 4: It's got a nice sprinkling Yeah. I know I don't
- 13:40Speaker 4: look like Einstein, but I got a brain. The only
- 13:43Speaker 4: way when we get to show people is we don't
- 13:45Speaker 4: have to write a script for myself.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Yes, so do that I have script, and give yourself
- 13:51Speaker 1: the best part.
- 13:52Speaker 2: I play Rocky.
- 13:54Speaker 3: I have no idea what that means.
- 13:57Speaker 4: So the writer wants to be in it as the lead, No,
- 14:00Speaker 4: absolutely not. Throw some money at him. I'm not giving
- 14:04Speaker 4: this something enough for a million books, not for ten.
- 14:08Speaker 3: You know, giving us the story behind the movie Rocky,
- 14:12Speaker 3: which you know many people know still alone wrote this
- 14:16Speaker 3: movie because nobody was gonna put him in another movie.
- 14:18Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't getting a lot of parts in
- 14:20Speaker 3: Hollywood because people were like, this guy's kind of looks
- 14:23Speaker 3: Goofy kind of talks goofy. You know, he's never gonna
- 14:25Speaker 3: be a leading man. So he's like, all right, I'm
- 14:28Speaker 3: gonna write my own thing, and I'm gonna do it.
- 14:30Speaker 3: And people read the script thought it was great, offered
- 14:32Speaker 3: to throw a bunch of money at him for the script,
- 14:35Speaker 3: and he's like, no, I gotta be in it. This
- 14:38Speaker 3: is that story in movie form seems to follow the
- 14:41Speaker 3: structure of Rocky by telling the story behind Rocky. I
- 14:45Speaker 3: had no idea this movie existed until I saw this
- 14:48Speaker 3: trailer in the movie theater, and this one really like
- 14:51Speaker 3: caught me off guard. This is surprising. I think this
- 14:54Speaker 3: looks pretty good, maybe even great, even if it looks
- 14:57Speaker 3: a little cheesy. Well, we know what happens. We know
- 15:00Speaker 3: this guy's successful in the end, we know it all
- 15:02Speaker 3: works out. But it looks pretty well put together. And
- 15:06Speaker 3: the guy who's playing Stallone in this dead on Stallone.
- 15:10Speaker 3: I mean he looks like Stallone. He talks like Stallone.
- 15:13Speaker 3: I was watching this, I'm like, you know, we got
- 15:15Speaker 3: two minutes, two and a half minutes of this guy
- 15:17Speaker 3: talking like Stallone. Are people gonna want to watch two
- 15:20Speaker 3: hours of this guy doing the Stallone voice, But then
- 15:23Speaker 3: I was like, well, people watched thirty years of Stallone
- 15:26Speaker 3: talking like Stallone, so I guess we're okay with it.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Yeah, it is that, it is what it is. Here's
- 15:33Speaker 2: my only reservation is that it's the Uncanny Valley. Can
- 15:39Speaker 2: that be just too distracting when you're watching because it's
- 15:43Speaker 2: like watching an animated version of something in your life,
- 15:46Speaker 2: or like CGI where it's just kind of close. So
- 15:49Speaker 2: are you the whole time going? I don't know. I
- 15:52Speaker 2: don't know how I feel about that. So, but he
- 15:56Speaker 2: did seem in the trailer like all those parts seem
- 15:58Speaker 2: like he was really good at it. So this movie
- 16:02Speaker 2: is on my list. I'd like to see it. I
- 16:03Speaker 2: don't know if i'd see it in the theater necessarily, though.
- 16:06Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the marketing's great. I think it's a
- 16:09Speaker 3: great trailer. I think it's gonna be a moderate hit,
- 16:12Speaker 3: moderate moderate, at least maybe bigger. Who knows. When Michael
- 16:16Speaker 3: just did a ton.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Of money, This isn't really Michael though, this is it's
- 16:20Speaker 2: just so.
- 16:23Speaker 3: You don't think they're on the same level.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Or what I'm just saying. I know a guy who
- 16:29Speaker 2: went and saw Michael. I think he saw like three
- 16:31Speaker 2: times in the theater.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Oh.
- 16:32Speaker 2: I was like really really, He's like, yeah, it's that good.
- 16:35Speaker 2: I'm like really, like really, do you.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Think you'll know a guy who goes to see I
- 16:40Speaker 3: play Rocky three times in the theater?
- 16:42Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean people went back to see
- 16:45Speaker 2: Rocky the movie. That's true so many times. So maybe
- 16:49Speaker 2: this movie will get if they tug on the heart
- 16:51Speaker 2: strings and that emotion, because that's what it's doing. It's selling.
- 16:54Speaker 2: It's not selling fame, it's selling struggle. You know that
- 16:58Speaker 2: struggle can be really powerful, especially when people feel like
- 17:02Speaker 2: they are connected to that character in some way.
- 17:05Speaker 3: All right, Next up, we've got Dune Part three that's
- 17:09Speaker 3: coming on December eighteenth.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Right before Christmas. It's a great choice listening.
- 17:21Speaker 4: You have conquered the galaxy, You've destroyed thousands of worlds.
- 17:28Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? I think you're way
- 17:31Speaker 4: be on redemption?
- 17:35Speaker 1: Listen, Why are you here to deliver this proposal?
- 17:42Speaker 4: Piece is a good thing?
- 17:44Speaker 1: Why should I refuse.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Because it's meant.
- 17:50Speaker 4: To destroy you?
- 17:54Speaker 2: I don't think we need to really describe these trailers
- 17:57Speaker 2: very much, but I feel like this trailer, every shot
- 18:01Speaker 2: looks expensive that's all I have to say. It's like,
- 18:04Speaker 2: it's just it says we spared no expense. We wanted
- 18:07Speaker 2: to make this cinematic masterpiece. I love the artistic style
- 18:13Speaker 2: of the first two movies, so I'm game for this movie.
- 18:18Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I saw the original Dune,
- 18:21Speaker 2: and that movie kind of haunted me for a long time,
- 18:24Speaker 2: especially the guy like who had the weird pustules on
- 18:28Speaker 2: his body. They changed that in this new movie a
- 18:31Speaker 2: little bit. I grew up with that, right, They didn't
- 18:34Speaker 2: get very far in the story arc, Like, I didn't
- 18:38Speaker 2: realize that's what happens to Paula Trad's I didn't realize
- 18:41Speaker 2: that was his trajectory. Is like in this trailer, it
- 18:45Speaker 2: seems like he's, you know, become sort of the bad guy.
- 18:48Speaker 2: That's fascinating to me. I love that idea. I want
- 18:52Speaker 2: to see that. I want to see what happens to
- 18:54Speaker 2: Timothy Shallimey.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Yeah, now this one looks good. It looks very epic.
- 18:59Speaker 3: You get a lot of like battle scenes sandworms. I
- 19:04Speaker 3: think I've heard it described online as like it's like
- 19:09Speaker 3: saving Private RNE in space. I don't know if it's
- 19:12Speaker 3: like that far, but it's all, there's a lot of
- 19:13Speaker 3: like constant like battling, whether it's like one on one
- 19:16Speaker 3: battling and these like big battlings. You're right, the money's there.
- 19:21Speaker 3: You see it all on screen and they're playing up
- 19:23Speaker 3: you know this is the end, the conclusion, which I
- 19:26Speaker 3: think it is, and it looks big in that odyssey
- 19:29Speaker 3: type of way, you know where you're like, this is
- 19:32Speaker 3: a grand Imax movie, theater movie. I thought Dune one
- 19:36Speaker 3: and Dune two like they shove a lot of stuff
- 19:38Speaker 3: in there, and they do it pretty well, and it
- 19:40Speaker 3: like all looks really cool, and like some of the
- 19:43Speaker 3: technology and stuff in there is like very cool. I
- 19:47Speaker 3: think if you're a fan of those movies, you're definitely
- 19:49Speaker 3: gonna come to this one. I don't know if it's
- 19:51Speaker 3: adding any more people, but you look at this and
- 19:53Speaker 3: you're like, this is a big movie. You know, this
- 19:55Speaker 3: is like a big December movie that's coming out, and
- 19:58Speaker 3: it gets you excited for it. Also. I don't know
- 20:01Speaker 3: if you have this thought at all, but Jason Momoa
- 20:04Speaker 3: reminded me of Steven Segall.
- 20:07Speaker 2: When you say that, I kind of I get what
- 20:10Speaker 2: you're saying.
- 20:10Speaker 3: Can you see it?
- 20:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of interested because he plays these parts,
- 20:14Speaker 2: and I was trying to think about like just his
- 20:16Speaker 2: star power. He has a lot of star power, But
- 20:19Speaker 2: is he the main attraction then or not? Like I
- 20:22Speaker 2: can't really tell Momoa. Yeah, does he become the protagonist
- 20:26Speaker 2: then in this movie? I don't really understand that. I
- 20:30Speaker 2: guess that's kind of the beauty of the trailers. It
- 20:32Speaker 2: doesn't tell you a whole lot of yeah, but they
- 20:34Speaker 2: do allude to things, so.
- 20:35Speaker 3: And there's kind of a lot of different characters at play.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge universe. That's the thing about this trilogy.
- 20:42Speaker 2: It's almost a little overwhelming. It's like watching Game of Thrones, right,
- 20:46Speaker 2: there's like houses, there's planets, there's terminology that you're Yeah,
- 20:52Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff you have to learn. You're like,
- 20:54Speaker 2: I don't know who was that guy. I don't remember
- 20:56Speaker 2: that guy's name, right, So there's I think in some
- 21:01Speaker 2: ways because of that, but also it has so much
- 21:03Speaker 2: potential like rewatchability to it, because you could rewatch it
- 21:07Speaker 2: and go, oh, now, I get that.
- 21:09Speaker 3: I do feel like I need to watch the other
- 21:12Speaker 3: two before I see this third one, Like I need
- 21:15Speaker 3: to like catch up on them.
- 21:16Speaker 2: You're gonna spend a day watching the first two basically
- 21:20Speaker 2: the other that's the other part of it, is like
- 21:22Speaker 2: they're not short, that's true.
- 21:24Speaker 3: Did you watch the Did you watch any of the
- 21:27Speaker 3: HBO show. There's like that HBO show too.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Yeah, I did watch that, this first season of that whatever,
- 21:32Speaker 2: it's the Prophecy or something like that. Is that a
- 21:35Speaker 2: good Yeah? I watched that.
- 21:36Speaker 3: I want just a you know, just to show about
- 21:39Speaker 3: like the spice harvesters. You know, just a crew of guys, ladies,
- 21:44Speaker 3: guys who are like harvesting spice together.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of stories. You could tell
- 21:49Speaker 2: a lot of stories. It's like House the Dragon, Game
- 21:51Speaker 2: of Thrones. You could go on forever.
- 21:53Speaker 3: That's true, keep spinning it off. Speaking of spinoffs, our
- 21:57Speaker 3: fifth and final movie, Avengers Doomsday Sorry Avengers call in
- 22:03Speaker 3: Doomsday out also December eighteenth.
- 22:10Speaker 4: I'd fought with many warriors in my time. They were
- 22:15Speaker 4: far stronger than all of us put together, and they died.
- 22:23Speaker 4: They died facing enemies and threats that scared me far
- 22:29Speaker 4: less than this one. Everything that they sacrifice will be
- 22:34Speaker 4: for nothing if we do not stand together. Put aside
- 22:42Speaker 4: your petty squabbles.
- 22:46Speaker 2: I presume nothing except this.
- 22:49Speaker 4: If you return, who will return as brothers and sisters?
- 22:57Speaker 4: The amount of my words, who they're going to need
- 23:02Speaker 4: a miracle?
- 23:06Speaker 3: This boggles of mind. I can't believe these two movies
- 23:09Speaker 3: are coming out the same day. Usually the studios will
- 23:11Speaker 3: be like, ooh, they got their flag planet on that day,
- 23:14Speaker 3: will come out two weeks later or something like that.
- 23:17Speaker 3: Now these two movies are like, let's go head to head.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not messing around. Maybe they'll do it like
- 23:22Speaker 2: Barbenheimer and they'll like try to get everybody to just
- 23:26Speaker 2: come to one and then go to the other.
- 23:28Speaker 3: Dune's Day.
- 23:29Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm calling it now. This is gonna happen.
- 23:32Speaker 3: That would be like six hours at the movie theater.
- 23:36Speaker 2: I mean you might as well. It's the week before Christmas.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Everybody's taking time off.
- 23:42Speaker 3: You know, that's gonna be a big thing. That's gonna
- 23:44Speaker 3: be a big day at the movies. I'm sure we'll
- 23:46Speaker 3: be talking about it more so. This one. The return
- 23:49Speaker 3: of the Avengers, Marvel bringing back their patented, their favorite characters,
- 23:55Speaker 3: you know, the thing that made them a ton of money.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Money I think still one of Uh, it's not the
- 24:01Speaker 3: top grossing movie of all time. End Games up there.
- 24:04Speaker 3: You know, it's like End Game and Avatar or something
- 24:06Speaker 3: like that that are neck and neck, So they're trying
- 24:08Speaker 3: to restore some of that. What did you think watching
- 24:11Speaker 3: this trail? Is it gonna bring it all back?
- 24:13Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it will. I want to
- 24:15Speaker 2: see it, I mean simply for the fact that I
- 24:18Speaker 2: want to see whatever's gonna happen. It doesn't necessarily mean
- 24:22Speaker 2: I'm gonna love it. But you have vested interest. You know,
- 24:27Speaker 2: You've got so much time in these movies that I'm
- 24:30Speaker 2: kind of like, what are they gonna do with that?
- 24:32Speaker 2: And now you're kind of trying to take people back
- 24:34Speaker 2: to that, Like I mean just the cast in general.
- 24:37Speaker 2: It's like just everybody that can maybe blow up in
- 24:41Speaker 2: their face. But then I say that, but there's like
- 24:43Speaker 2: so many people who had been there, so maybe they'll
- 24:47Speaker 2: drag them along into this even if they don't like it.
- 24:50Speaker 2: In the end, you've got that built in audience, I guess.
- 24:53Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean definitely, there was obviously a this was
- 24:56Speaker 3: the biggest thing in the world ten years ago. This
- 24:58Speaker 3: was what everybody he was going to see. But what
- 25:01Speaker 3: do you watch this trailer Beyond Nostalgia?
- 25:04Speaker 2: Was it?
- 25:05Speaker 3: Did it pull you back in? Did it get you
- 25:06Speaker 3: excited for this?
- 25:07Speaker 2: No? Not really? Yeah. For one, I don't even really
- 25:12Speaker 2: know the villain. Like I mean, we know the villain,
- 25:14Speaker 2: but I'm saying like they haven't even given us why
- 25:18Speaker 2: we are rooting for the good guys in this, you
- 25:21Speaker 2: know what I mean? Is that gonna happen in the movie.
- 25:24Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 25:25Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's like, you watch this, you're like,
- 25:27Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like a continuation of anything, because one
- 25:31Speaker 3: we already wrapped, yeah, and they're just kind of throwing
- 25:34Speaker 3: things at you. You got like this new villain, you
- 25:37Speaker 3: got the X Men, the Fantastic Four. It's like, Okay,
- 25:40Speaker 3: here's these guys and these guys and these guys. It
- 25:43Speaker 3: just feels like such a thrown together hodgepods. It's like
- 25:48Speaker 3: I just couldn't. I might not be the best science
- 25:50Speaker 3: this because I feel like I'm kind of out on
- 25:52Speaker 3: this stuff. But watching this, you know, nothing stirred in
- 25:56Speaker 3: me like ooh, this looks like something new or this
- 25:59Speaker 3: looks like something different, And it was just kind of like,
- 26:01Speaker 3: let's try to get it going again, you know what
- 26:03Speaker 3: I mean like the Wars Hammer isn't doing it for
- 26:07Speaker 3: me anymore. I've seen that a few times, you know,
- 26:09Speaker 3: like Captain America. I'm like, okay, we're this guy. We
- 26:13Speaker 3: retired him, and now he's coming back. It all just
- 26:16Speaker 3: felt a little bit like.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Please like us again, a little desperate.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I just you know, you don't really
- 26:23Speaker 3: get a sense of story. It's more just like look
- 26:26Speaker 3: at these people and these people and these people.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're drawing on your like, oh I know
- 26:33Speaker 2: that either a character or I know the actor. And
- 26:37Speaker 2: that's the thing about it, is like, Okay, so I've
- 26:39Speaker 2: seen some of these other I've seen Fantastic four, you know,
- 26:42Speaker 2: the new one and all the stuff that sort of
- 26:44Speaker 2: leads up to this. I've seen those movies, but I'm
- 26:47Speaker 2: like still confused as to why I care, Like what
- 26:53Speaker 2: is the threat? I have no interest in it, Like
- 26:56Speaker 2: I have no connection with it because they haven't really
- 26:58Speaker 2: given me any reason. Like in Endgame, you know what,
- 27:01Speaker 2: I don't know how many years they were building that
- 27:03Speaker 2: into like end credit scenes and stuff like that. Even
- 27:06Speaker 2: if you didn't know that villain, you still felt like,
- 27:10Speaker 2: oh yeah.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Well not only that, like you think of that. What
- 27:14Speaker 3: was so cool about like those first Avengers movies was
- 27:17Speaker 3: they like built up with these threads of these other movies.
- 27:22Speaker 3: They built up to like, Okay, these one these people
- 27:25Speaker 3: all getting together and they pull that off, and then
- 27:28Speaker 3: you're like, well, that's that's pretty cool. Then they built
- 27:30Speaker 3: up to, like, you know, something bigger happening. These guys
- 27:33Speaker 3: need to come together and really fight this off, and
- 27:36Speaker 3: there's like serious threat and some real stakes, so you
- 27:39Speaker 3: kind of what you were invested in this whole world
- 27:42Speaker 3: they had built up, and then they concluded that and
- 27:44Speaker 3: they did it really strong, and then since then it's
- 27:47Speaker 3: all been pretty wobbly. But they're trying, you know, they
- 27:50Speaker 3: keep trying to like do that again. Yeah, it's not
- 27:53Speaker 3: coming together and people are a little burnt on it now.
- 27:56Speaker 2: I'm I'm an agreement, And you know that's a lot
- 27:59Speaker 2: for me to say that, because I love superhero movies
- 28:01Speaker 2: just as much as the next nerd. But like and
- 28:04Speaker 2: I did, like I said, I will go probably see this.
- 28:06Speaker 2: I don't know if I can make us an eight hour,
- 28:09Speaker 2: six hour day out of this. And Dune Dune's Day
- 28:13Speaker 2: is a great I mean, come on, I mean, that's
- 28:16Speaker 2: that's gonna be Barbenheimer all over again.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Well, we typically will end each episode, you know, kind
- 28:23Speaker 3: of sharing something that's on our radar. You know, it
- 28:26Speaker 3: could be a trailer or some movie news something like that.
- 28:30Speaker 3: Since we're just hammering trailers today, instead of doing that,
- 28:35Speaker 3: we're gonna keep going with the Fall movie trailers a
- 28:38Speaker 3: little bit. We're gonna do a wild card pick. Now.
- 28:41Speaker 3: We gave you these five, They're not the only movies
- 28:44Speaker 3: coming out. It's a whole bunch of them. We've got
- 28:46Speaker 3: Social Reckoning, We've got Resident Evil, We've got The Hunger Games.
- 28:50Speaker 3: Whole bunch of stuff. So, Patrick, of the many other
- 28:53Speaker 3: movies coming out, which are these other Fall movies besides
- 28:56Speaker 3: the five we discussed? Are you most excited to see?
- 28:59Speaker 2: Can I give a few? Do have to give one?
- 29:02Speaker 3: Now? You can give a few?
- 29:02Speaker 2: I got like five, Okay, So I will say Clara
- 29:07Speaker 2: and the Sun. Never heard of this movie, watched the trailer.
- 29:11Speaker 2: I want to see this movie. Yeah, again, weird, unexpected.
- 29:16Speaker 3: I like that Clara and the Sun is like Digger
- 29:20Speaker 3: meets I play Rocky. Yeah, it's like weird but emotional
- 29:24Speaker 3: at the same time. It like pulls those things together.
- 29:27Speaker 3: It's a Tycho Hytt joint and uh, I was the
- 29:30Speaker 3: same way. I hadn't heard of. It looks really good
- 29:33Speaker 3: based on a book, but very cool, has its own
- 29:35Speaker 3: kind of vibe to it.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say this, this is my common
- 29:39Speaker 2: theme or thread throughout. His timing is everything. This movie,
- 29:43Speaker 2: out of all of them, I felt was a pretty
- 29:46Speaker 2: good It's October twenty third, and I felt like that
- 29:49Speaker 2: was a good timeline.
- 29:51Speaker 3: I feel like the timing's a little off. That's right
- 29:53Speaker 3: before Halloween.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I think that like you're going into November, so it's
- 29:57Speaker 2: kind of a feel good movie. I seems like a
- 30:00Speaker 2: feel good I don't know, it's yeah, it does. And
- 30:02Speaker 2: then the other two that I kind of like is
- 30:04Speaker 2: that Wild Horse nine. Yeah, I love the banter. I
- 30:08Speaker 2: also love Sam Rockwell and John Malkovich is great. It's
- 30:12Speaker 2: from the writer and director of Banshee's of an Ischean too,
- 30:15Speaker 2: which is that movie still kind of haunts me in
- 30:19Speaker 2: a good way, I think. And then Verity, Yes, right,
- 30:23Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening there. I don't know. But
- 30:26Speaker 2: also good timing October second. I think it's leading into
- 30:30Speaker 2: that timeframe where that could do well.
- 30:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on verity. That one looks crazy.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Not something I would typically be into, but it's one
- 30:39Speaker 3: of those that's like totally just screwing with your mind. Yeah,
- 30:43Speaker 3: you don't understand really what the plot is, but you
- 30:46Speaker 3: get that something sinister is going on. Just looks pretty wild.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Supposedly that's based on a book.
- 30:52Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that a Colleen Hoover book too?
- 30:54Speaker 2: I think so. I just somebody was just telling me
- 30:57Speaker 2: that today that they read the book and the book
- 31:00Speaker 2: is wild.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Yeah, so that looks pretty wacky with Anne Hathaway in
- 31:04Speaker 3: that one. Then Clayface was another one I thought looked
- 31:07Speaker 3: pretty good. It's the DC movie, but it does not
- 31:11Speaker 3: look like your typical you know, DC superhero movie. Guess
- 31:15Speaker 3: he's kind of like a villain. I'm not really sure
- 31:17Speaker 3: I got you know, it made me think a little
- 31:19Speaker 3: bit of Dark Man, kind of like horror. There's some
- 31:22Speaker 3: crazy imagery you just see with this guy's face. Yeah,
- 31:26Speaker 3: looks like a pretty interesting movie and has pretty effective trailer.
- 31:30Speaker 3: Then I had Claire and the Sun also were Wolf.
- 31:33Speaker 3: I thought, you know, just good vibes at this guy
- 31:36Speaker 3: who made like Noscaratu and the Witch in the Lighthouse.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Nikes movies like nobody else. I don't, you know, I
- 31:42Speaker 3: don't always like totally love them, but they look and
- 31:45Speaker 3: people talk like nobody else does in any other movies.
- 31:49Speaker 4: You know.
- 31:49Speaker 3: They feel like very almost like you're looking at another
- 31:53Speaker 3: space and time. It looks interesting, and it does looks freaky.
- 31:57Speaker 3: But my top one that is something I just saw.
- 32:00Speaker 3: Another thing I saw just before the Odyssey was other Mommy.
- 32:04Speaker 3: Uh huh yeah, which is a hilarious title and I
- 32:08Speaker 3: think a great title, though my wife didn't like it.
- 32:11Speaker 3: She thought it should have been called Other Mother.
- 32:13Speaker 2: I do like that.
- 32:14Speaker 3: This was probably the best trailer I've seen of the
- 32:17Speaker 3: Fall trailers. You know, it was just it starts out,
- 32:19Speaker 3: and when I saw it in the theater, I thought
- 32:21Speaker 3: it was an ad just because of the way it starts,
- 32:23Speaker 3: and you know how they'll play like a few trailers
- 32:26Speaker 3: and then play like a commercial before movies now, which
- 32:29Speaker 3: drives me crazy, But that's what it seems like, the
- 32:31Speaker 3: way it begins, and then it just kind of like
- 32:35Speaker 3: slowly gets freaky and then just you know, throws out
- 32:39Speaker 3: a kind of like jump scare at you looks pretty good.
- 32:43Speaker 3: I think this one's really gonna kind of hit in
- 32:46Speaker 3: the the you know, October horror movie season.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say for the listeners who watched this
- 32:53Speaker 2: trailer other Mommy, I would have fallen through the plate
- 32:57Speaker 2: glass window too if I saw that creepy mommy under
- 33:00Speaker 2: the table. Let me tell you that, like like a pretzel,
- 33:03Speaker 2: Like yeah, no, I'm like, I'm scared out of my mind, right, So, yeah, Well,
- 33:11Speaker 2: we hope you got a lot of this. You know,
- 33:13Speaker 2: I know you can't actually watch the trailers, but you
- 33:16Speaker 2: know the way we describe them in such detail.
- 33:19Speaker 3: You don't even need to.
- 33:21Speaker 2: You don't even need to. But let us know what
- 33:24Speaker 2: you think of our take on the Fall movie trailers.
- 33:28Speaker 2: But that's it for this episode of Movies and Marketing.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Until next time, let's fade to black. I'll be back.
- 33:41Speaker 2: He's not coming back.