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SEC Football Fans Won’t Like These Biggest Fear Predictions, QB tiers · Unafraid Show with George Wrighster

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show Man. We got so much to
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Speaker 1: talk about today. We got to talk about Greg Sankie,
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Speaker 1: who has made comments about the leadership in college football,
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Speaker 1: and some members in the SEC they want to break
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Speaker 1: away from the NCAA, the big ten in the SEC
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Speaker 1: having their own conversations, and so much more. We got
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Speaker 1: Brooks Austin in the building and we got to talk
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Speaker 1: about each SEC team's fears for this season. What is
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Speaker 1: their biggest fear. We got to talk about if you
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Speaker 1: would hire Brian Kelly because on the Vortech Show he
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Speaker 1: said some things he wants to get back into college football.
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Speaker 1: Would you trust er own more with your college football team?
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Speaker 1: And also there's a bipartisan proposal in the US Senate
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Speaker 1: that could allow universities to pool media rights. Is this
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Speaker 1: a good idea or is this a bad idea? That
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Speaker 1: and so much more, And of course we have in
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Speaker 1: the last block to day my quarterback tiers ranking all
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Speaker 1: to the show business time now. The commissioner of the SEC,
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Speaker 1: he made some comments. He said, quote, I've acknowledged that
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Speaker 1: there are those who have said that we should go
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Speaker 1: our own way talking about the SEC, and I don't
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Speaker 1: think that that's the right decision. We have relationships and
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Speaker 1: responsibilities within Division one. People are tired of talking about name,
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Speaker 1: image and likeness. They're tired of talking about all the lawsuits.
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Speaker 1: What they want is, in a way, what the President
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Speaker 1: spoke of. I want to go back to when we
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Speaker 1: focus on the fields, the tracks, the swimming pools, and
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Speaker 1: it was about the combinations and we need national standards
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Speaker 1: to achieve that objective. Now, there's multiple parts to this.
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Speaker 1: So the first thing is, yeah, he's right that we
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Speaker 1: do need to be focusing on academics, We need to
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Speaker 1: be focusing on what's right for the kids, all of
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Speaker 1: this stuff. But the thing that we cannot ignore is
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Speaker 1: that in the President's thing, and then with the Score Act,
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Speaker 1: these other meetings that have been happening, a lot of
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Speaker 1: these people have an agenda.
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Speaker 2: This is about power.
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Speaker 1: And I want you guys to start thinking about this
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Speaker 1: and looking at this from a bigger picture as of
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Speaker 1: and I know we all root for our teams, you know,
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Speaker 1: Alabama fan, Auburn fan, Rutgers, USC Oregon, Ucla, Baylor, whoever
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Speaker 1: you're a fan of. I want one hundred percent understand
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Speaker 1: you wanting the best for you, right, but college football
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Speaker 1: is an enterprise. The best thing for you in the
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Speaker 1: long run is what's best for the enterprise in the
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Speaker 1: long run, which is to grow the money, grow the pie,
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Speaker 1: have a sustainable model, which the current rate of college
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Speaker 1: football is not sustainable. You had up there, you had
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and other people. Oh, college sports are broken
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Speaker 1: and there's not going to be enough money for women's
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Speaker 1: sports and all that stuff. Well, first thing is, nobody
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Speaker 1: is forcing the university to spend ninety percent budget on football. Now, granted,
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Speaker 1: I know football makes the money, but there has to
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Speaker 1: be some sort of responsible spending and some sort of
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Speaker 1: hard cap and rule surrounding that that govern the sport.
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Speaker 1: A hard cap from what a school can pay a
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Speaker 1: player or their partners can play pay a player, like
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Speaker 1: every player on LSU's team. Can't be getting a deal
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Speaker 1: with one particular entity because that's not name, image and likeness.
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Speaker 1: That is pay for play. Quarterbacks have more value, star
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Speaker 1: players can have more value in terms of advertising out
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Speaker 1: in the world. But these have to be real things.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to cut into the kids money
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Speaker 1: because I want my kids to be able to make
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Speaker 1: as much money as humanly possible. But I do also
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Speaker 1: understand that this is a business and this is an
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Speaker 1: enterprise and it needs to be looked at at that way.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why the big ten in the SEC
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Speaker 1: are talking about well potentially breaking away and from the
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Speaker 1: NC Double A and on because they want to retain power.
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Speaker 1: They want to retain and stay up here while everybody
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Speaker 1: else stays down here. And within the SEC, the major players.
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Speaker 1: They want to stay at the top of the SEC.
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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan want to stay at the top of
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. They don't really care what happens to
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Speaker 1: Rutgers and Northwestern or Vanderbilt. They really in their hearts,
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Speaker 1: they really don't care. The conference cares, but each individual
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Speaker 1: school does not, when in reality, a rising tide lifts
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Speaker 1: all ships. And that's exactly why it's very important. What
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Speaker 1: is going on with this bipartisan US Senate bill. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's a proposal that would allow universities to pull their
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Speaker 1: media rights and negotiate broadcasting deals, potentially generating billions in
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Speaker 1: additional revenue for college sports. Now, the proposal would also
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Speaker 1: support scholarships and Olympic sports programs while addressing financial disparities
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Speaker 1: across the conferences. So let me explain to you why
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Speaker 1: this matters, because this is essentially a bill that would
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Speaker 1: amend the Sports Broadcasting Act and that would allow colleges
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Speaker 1: and conferences to pull media rights and to negotiate broadcast
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Speaker 1: deals collectively.
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Speaker 2: Why this matters.
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Speaker 1: Is because look at the ACC For example, you have
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Speaker 1: Florida State and clems in making the most money because
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Speaker 1: historically they've been the best other teams at the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the ACC, they're making less money, so they realistically
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Speaker 1: have no chance to catch up. So that's the first thing. Now,
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Speaker 1: imagine a world where the because right now currently ACC
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Speaker 1: has its own deal with ESPN Big ten, with Fox SEC,
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Speaker 1: with ESPN Big twelve, with a number of partners. Imagine
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Speaker 1: if all of that inventory were put together, that would
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Speaker 1: generate significantly more money than what you are currently getting.
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Speaker 1: Let me explain to you why that would be beneficial
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Speaker 1: for everybody. So for the power conferences, Now, imagine a
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Speaker 1: world where there's an even split between everybody. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: that's socialism. Uh, it's exactly what happens in every single
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Speaker 1: other sport. The broadcasting deals. In the NFL, each team
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Speaker 1: has its own deal. I'm sorry, each league has its
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Speaker 1: own deal. They pay the teams out evenly from that. Now, granted,
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys are more valuable than you know, the
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and there's nothing wrong with that, but they
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Speaker 1: all have the same salary cap, they all have the
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Speaker 1: same earning quote unquote potential. Dallas Cowboys are just in
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Speaker 1: a bigger metro. Historically good franchise, but you can grow
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Speaker 1: your brand you can grow everything. But there is potential
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Speaker 1: there and the reason, and you're able to pull their rights.
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Speaker 1: So now instead of broadcast company CBS, NBC, Fox, ESPN
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Speaker 1: all this stuff only trying to show a certain percentage
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Speaker 1: of games, now they got to pay for all of
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Speaker 1: these games, and they're going to bid each other up
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Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be able to cross. So SEC
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Speaker 1: games would be on Fox. You would have because they
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Speaker 1: would bid on games like they do with their television
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Speaker 1: partners already, INCLUDINGCBS, like all the people in between, they
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Speaker 1: all bid on the games. Now they would pay more
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Speaker 1: for everything. And do you know what that would fix?
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Speaker 1: That would fix the schedule issues. You know how I've
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Speaker 1: been complaining. I was complaining about SEC non conference schedules.
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Speaker 1: I've talked about Indiana, Ohio State two years ago, Nebraska
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Speaker 1: this upcoming year. Anybody with three free non conference wins
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Speaker 1: is atrocious and it's gross. When you're intentionally not scheduling
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Speaker 1: ten Power five games or ten Power four games are
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Speaker 1: more atrocious. The networks will fix that. They will say,
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Speaker 1: as a requirement for this, we need more good games.
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Speaker 1: So that will fix the schedule issue. And this also
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Speaker 1: it is also believed that it would create more than
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Speaker 1: nine billion dollars in new revenue for college sports. So
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Speaker 1: now the networks would then be forced to put more
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Speaker 1: basketball games on network TV, swimming on their streaming channels,
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Speaker 1: of gymnastics, all of this stuff as a part of
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Speaker 1: their streaming package or their terrestrial television package. So now
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Speaker 1: you're going to get more visibility on that more advertising.
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Speaker 1: This means more dollars for everybody. The only people that
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Speaker 1: are against this are people who want to keep other
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Speaker 1: people down and at the bottom. That is the only
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Speaker 1: sensible explanation for it. College football. I believe if they
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Speaker 1: look at college football as an enterprise in the next
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Speaker 1: ten years, it will be the second most popular sport
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Speaker 1: in America period and generating the second and most amount
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Speaker 1: of money. So now the pros for this are that
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Speaker 1: you could generate a massive revenue stream from an entire
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Speaker 1: college sports ecosystem. Number two, you could help preserve women's
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Speaker 1: sports and Olympic sports that are often on the chopping block.
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Speaker 1: Number three, you could reduce financial pressure on the nil
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Speaker 1: arms race and in terms of coaching salaries and facility
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Speaker 1: spending by there being a salary cap because of that
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Speaker 1: which is easily enforceable, well more easily enforceable then, and
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Speaker 1: you could actually create a more national coordinated media strategy
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Speaker 1: instead of fragmented conference by conference. And then you got
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Speaker 1: you know, Greg Saiki lobbying for his conference, Tony puttd here,
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Speaker 1: your mark over there, the BEV quad Wood notre dame.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's lobbying for their own self interest. That's why it matters.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: People are gonna push with some cons to this.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: First, the Big Ten in the SEC, they have argued
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Speaker 1: put out a whole white paper against it that pulling
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Speaker 1: media rites. It could create bureaucracy, legal chaos, and even
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Speaker 1: reduce revenue long term. It ain't gonna reduce revenue. It
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Speaker 1: might reduce revenue for a couple of schools that are
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Speaker 1: getting an uneven share, or that reduce revenue in terms
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Speaker 1: of what they believe the Big Ten could earn or
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Speaker 1: the SEC could earn on a per school basis. But
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Speaker 1: you're actually going to flatten it for everybody, and then
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Speaker 1: that would be a higher number. But all of this
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Speaker 1: is posturing as a con just to retain power. Now,
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Speaker 1: the other potential conness is that it could shift power
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Speaker 1: away from the conferences that built the most valuable brands
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Speaker 1: and TV packages. And if this is an interference from
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Speaker 1: the proposal to pool and sell the rights together, well
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Speaker 1: is there a problem with that?
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Speaker 2: Exactly?
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Speaker 1: Number three, changing the Sports Broadcasting Act could reopen major
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Speaker 1: antitrust and governance fights in college football. Highly doubt it,
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Speaker 1: because then you would have a CBA. Number four, more
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Speaker 1: money does not automatically solve the biggest issues in sports calendar,
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Speaker 1: nil disputes, athletes rights, employment status, transfer chaos, but it
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Speaker 1: kind of will force you to do that because once
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Speaker 1: you have pulled the media rights, that means you have
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Speaker 1: one entity that is negotiating on your behalf. That means
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Speaker 1: it's going to be easier for the players to unionize
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Speaker 1: and then negotiate with that one entity too. Come on, man,
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Speaker 1: facts are facts around here, and you guys make sure
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Speaker 1: get on to the next question. Brian Kelly. So, Brian
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Speaker 1: Kelly had this to say on the Vorcheck Show.
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Speaker 3: Let's put it in perspective.
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Speaker 4: You know, I've had thirty three years in this business,
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Speaker 4: over three hundred wins. You know I've had two losing
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Speaker 4: seasons in thirty three years. So you know, my entire
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Speaker 4: career has been built upon, you know, having some kind
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Speaker 4: of success. And when you get fired, you're told that
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Speaker 4: you're not the guy for the job. And and so
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Speaker 4: you know, that's probably the first thing you start thinking about,
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Speaker 4: you know, the things that you've done for three decades.
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Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know that you question, but
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Speaker 4: but you look carefully about why this happened. And look,
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Speaker 4: the easy answer is I didn't win enough games. I mean,
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Speaker 4: you know that's the bottom line, right, But you know,
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Speaker 4: we came there to build a program, and you know,
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Speaker 4: we we didn't get a chance to finish it. So
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Speaker 4: I think the probably the overriding emotion in that respect is,
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Speaker 4: you know, disappointed that we didn't get to finish the job.
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Speaker 4: I think that's probably the one thing because I've been
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Speaker 4: in it long enough to know, as you said in
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Speaker 4: your first comments, you know you're in this long enough
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Speaker 4: you're probably going to get fired. But I never thought
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Speaker 4: that that would occur. So I think the emotions, more
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Speaker 4: or anything else for me, was disappointment.
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Speaker 1: Now I got a question, does that sound like a
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Speaker 1: man who doesn't want to coach football?
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Speaker 2: Right now.
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Speaker 1: No, that sounds like a man who got humbled. And
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Speaker 1: here's the thing about life. We all got to eat
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Speaker 1: a slice of humble pie. Sometimes sometimes depending on how
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Speaker 1: big of a slice you have is how big the
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Speaker 1: ego got. And Brian Kelly said he did not believe
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Speaker 1: that he could get fired. He knows that everybody does,
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Speaker 1: but not me. Though I'm Brian Kelly, I'm a winner.
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Speaker 1: I do this, I'm making all this money. My buyoutside
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Speaker 1: they were like, we do not care, and we will
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Speaker 1: get you up out of here too, Phail. So his
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Speaker 1: comments led me to believe a few things. Number One,
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Speaker 1: he wants back in college football right now, and he
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Speaker 1: sounds like a man who's been humble and is thinking,
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Speaker 1: oh wow, I should probably take an analyst role. I
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Speaker 1: would love Brian Kelly to take an analyst role at
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Speaker 1: Oregon right now. Would love it. Former head coach, he
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Speaker 1: knows offensive defense, He's done good jobs, and sometimes you
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Speaker 1: just need to get a fresh start and see something different.
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Speaker 1: So that means that he could actually do a better
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Speaker 1: job at his next coaching stop, which there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people who would who would be better off hiring
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Speaker 1: a humbled Brian Kelly. But also I believe that when
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Speaker 1: I look at that, like, oh the man ate his
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Speaker 1: piece of hum humble pie, and he's like, let me
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Speaker 1: get back after it. I love that. That's what redemption
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Speaker 1: stories and redemption arcs are built upon. You don't want
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Speaker 1: somebody that's just gonna ride out into the sunset and
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Speaker 1: be like, hey, give me my fifty four million and
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Speaker 1: I'll go on my way, because that lets you know
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Speaker 1: that that burning desire within them is gone, and that
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Speaker 1: means that you shouldn't be coaching anymore. So the fact
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Speaker 1: that he wants to get back on you know, it
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Speaker 1: ain't about money.
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Speaker 2: This is about pride.
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Speaker 1: This is about redemption and wanting to do a good job.
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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't so in him sitting out this year,
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Speaker 1: but then being a part of a staff having to
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Speaker 1: be under another coach. He hasn't had that in a
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Speaker 1: long time, and that's the type of humility and type
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Speaker 1: of you know, and the type of thing that can
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Speaker 1: propel you into a next level of greatness. So I'm
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Speaker 1: excited about it, and I would absolutely hire Brian Kelly
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Speaker 1: if he takes an analyst job somewhere else next season,
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Speaker 1: next offseason, or when he's coaches start getting fired.
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Speaker 2: He would be one.
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Speaker 1: Of my calls at that point in time because humble
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Speaker 1: pie is always good for the soul. Another coach, Sharon Moore.
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Speaker 1: So we just figured out that Sharon Moore is not
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Speaker 1: going to jail. Major charges against him dismissed. And he
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Speaker 1: went from, as my grandma would say, from sugar to
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Speaker 1: shit real quick. He went from the top as Michigan's
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Speaker 1: head coach to now, would you ever hire Charon Moore again?
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Speaker 1: And if so, where would you hire? I believe that
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to take a bit off. He may
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Speaker 1: have to go down to either being a position coach,
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Speaker 1: or he may have to go down to which is
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Speaker 1: probably his best bet, go down to Naia, go to
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Speaker 1: Division three because somebody will hire him as a Division
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Speaker 1: three head coach in like two years. But the biggest
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Speaker 1: question is can he be trusted? That's part of the
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Speaker 1: biggest responsibility of a head coach. Or have a star
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Speaker 1: quarterback or anybody that you pay a lot of money to.
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Speaker 1: Are they a good representation of our organization? Are they
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Speaker 1: a good representation? Can we trust him not to be
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Speaker 1: texting Instagram models? Can we text him not to be
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Speaker 1: having an inappropriate relationship with somebody on staff. Can we
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Speaker 1: trust him? And the issue with that is there are
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Speaker 1: some people that will never try you again. There are
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Speaker 1: some places that he could never be hired. But I
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Speaker 1: actually believe that he has to not only do a
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Speaker 1: one part rehabilitation on his reputation, he's also got to
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Speaker 1: do a two part of it. So one he's got
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Speaker 1: to restore his reputation or build a new reputation.
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Speaker 2: As a.
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Speaker 1: Think about what Sark had to do when he was
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Speaker 1: at USC, he admitted that he had an alcohol problem,
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Speaker 1: all those things, goes to Alabama, ends up getting a
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Speaker 1: Texas job, right, but there was a long road in
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Speaker 1: between there and he had to show that he could
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Speaker 1: be trusted again. Now, people typically have a little more
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Speaker 1: forgiveness for dependency issues, particularly when there are steps that
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Speaker 1: you can take to prove you can be going to AA,
20:59
Speaker 1: you can be doing all these things to make sure
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Speaker 1: that you have the support that you need and people
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Speaker 1: can actually see it a sponsor. You can have all
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Speaker 1: of these things in place for years and people are like, oh, okay, cool,
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Speaker 1: he's good now.
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Speaker 2: But when it comes to women.
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Speaker 1: And bad decision making, that doesn't get rehabbed. Quite as quickly.
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Speaker 1: And there are some people that have had infidelity in
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Speaker 1: their lives and they're like, listen, I don't even want
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Speaker 1: nobody that's been out there with that, nothing like that
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Speaker 1: on my staff or this, this, this. So he's got
21:33
Speaker 1: to rehabilitate his reputation, whether that means finding Jesus, finding
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Speaker 1: the Koran, finding whatever it is. He's got to get
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Speaker 1: in the messaging business in a couple of months about
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Speaker 1: how he's a change man. You can't do it yet.
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Speaker 1: You gotta wait some time. You got to go dark
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Speaker 1: for a while then come out. You know, leadership panels
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Speaker 1: and all of this stuff. I've you know, I've changed
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Speaker 1: my life all that. But the next thing that he
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Speaker 1: has to rehab is his coaching reputation, because when he
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Speaker 1: was the head coach at Michigan, there was a lot
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Speaker 1: of people that did not believe that he was a
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Speaker 1: great strategist, that he was a great recruiter, that he
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Speaker 1: was great at the fundamental jobs. So then he has
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Speaker 1: to when somebody does give him another chance, if it's
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Speaker 1: a lower level program, he's going to have to build
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Speaker 1: up that muscle his football reputation, because that's why somebody
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Speaker 1: like Rick Patino has been able to come back, and
22:41
Speaker 1: other coaches have been able to come back after they
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Speaker 1: had scandals and all of this because they won on
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Speaker 1: the field. And ultimately, people want winners. So if Sharon
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Speaker 1: Moore can prove that he's a winner at lower levels,
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Speaker 1: and then people desperate in the next level up will
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Speaker 1: give the opportunity, give the opportunity. And then once enough
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Speaker 1: time has passed and you have shown no issues, no trouble,
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Speaker 1: they do your background check, they test with they check
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Speaker 1: with people around you and everybody, and you're coming up aces. Oh,
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Speaker 1: then you get another shot.
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Speaker 2: What is what it is? Uh?
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Speaker 1: But you guys, though, would you give Sharon Moore a
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Speaker 1: job and how long would it be? Leave it down
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Speaker 1: in the comments, and also would you hire Brian Kelly?
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Speaker 1: Leave it in the comments. But you guys, we got
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Speaker 1: film like you want of the best in the business
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Speaker 1: doing it. Man that knows about calf sizes, quickness, quick twitch,
24:24
Speaker 1: muscles and everything else. And he reps the south Brooks man.
24:29
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, man, man.
24:32
Speaker 3: I love how you talk and take off the record
24:34
Speaker 3: conversations about objectifying male bodies and you do them right
24:38
Speaker 3: into the introduction right here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:41
Speaker 3: I tend to do that as an evaluator of football.
24:44
Speaker 3: I tend to objectify the male body every once in
24:46
Speaker 3: a while. Hey, cap size is important, calf location important,
24:50
Speaker 3: How high up on them calves? Is that? Muscle definition?
24:53
Speaker 3: All that is important? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be
24:56
Speaker 3: looking at dudes. That's what I do. I'm a film guy.
24:59
Speaker 3: He Hey.
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Speaker 1: One of the funniest things is is like when you're
25:03
Speaker 1: at the combine and you watch the coaches. Now I've
25:06
Speaker 1: been up there at the meat market, but when you're
25:10
Speaker 1: sitting in the in the stands, well, well, when you're
25:13
Speaker 1: sitting in the room when they're doing height and weight,
25:16
Speaker 1: it is it's kind of creepy because the coaches are
25:19
Speaker 1: in there, like look at you, look at you. You're
25:22
Speaker 1: just like settled down, bro.
25:26
Speaker 3: I mean I have I have one of these moments today, George.
25:28
Speaker 3: We're bringing down Alabama quarterback tape and I get to
25:31
Speaker 3: the tight cut immediately of Austin Mack and I'm like, hey,
25:36
Speaker 3: give me a second here, But that's a good looking dude.
25:39
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's sixty six. Look out thicket his
25:41
Speaker 3: thighs are and I'm like, all right, I gotta stop.
25:42
Speaker 3: Let's move on. Let's watch the ball I saw, And
25:45
Speaker 3: it's real. It's a highweight sports, like high weight speed sport.
25:49
Speaker 3: So like how big you are, where your mask is located,
25:53
Speaker 3: how you move, like all those things are really really
25:56
Speaker 3: important as much as we joke about it. Like the
25:58
Speaker 3: greatest coaches of all time on the defensive end, like
26:01
Speaker 3: defensive side of the football, when they look at defensive linemen,
26:04
Speaker 3: they watch them from the rear. They're trying to see
26:06
Speaker 3: how wide that human.
26:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, they always got a white ass.
26:10
Speaker 3: We can want a wide as you're pulling light on
26:13
Speaker 3: that thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, we we got to talk about what's
26:20
Speaker 1: going on in college football right now. There was just
26:22
Speaker 1: a White House round table. There's another round table going
26:26
Speaker 1: on now. Everybody wants to save college football and college
26:31
Speaker 1: sports in general. And to me Brooks, we've had Greg
26:35
Speaker 1: Sanki speak out about the future of college football saying
26:39
Speaker 1: that some of the membership of the SEC wants to
26:42
Speaker 1: break off. There's rumors about the Big Ten in the
26:45
Speaker 1: SEC that they want to that they're now willing to
26:48
Speaker 1: talk about the college football future. And for me, I'm
26:52
Speaker 1: sitting here, this feels like a power play to me
26:56
Speaker 1: that nobody actually wants to give up power that this
27:00
Speaker 1: is that I don't understand why we're not looking at
27:03
Speaker 1: college football while the leadership is not looking at it
27:06
Speaker 1: like an enterprise, right, like make college football better instead
27:11
Speaker 1: of saying we got to keep the SEC at the
27:14
Speaker 1: top or the Big Ten or the ACC or the
27:16
Speaker 1: Big twelve. It feels like a fool air into me.
27:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, everybody's lobbying for individual power of conference, right,
27:24
Speaker 3: That's what it feels like. Every time one of these
27:26
Speaker 3: commissioners speaks and speaks out individually, they speak as if
27:31
Speaker 3: my conference is the best, I'm lobbying for my conference.
27:33
Speaker 3: It feels like that's what they are just like conference
27:35
Speaker 3: lobbyists when they speak yes publicly, I look more at
27:39
Speaker 3: what they've done collectively and the tea leaves that they've dropped,
27:42
Speaker 3: like collectively, because they don't do a lot of joint statements.
27:46
Speaker 3: But last offseason, do you remember the Memorandum of understanding?
27:49
Speaker 3: You remember when they brought us that. Yes, this was
27:52
Speaker 3: basically the Big Ten, the SEC and Notre Dame getting
27:56
Speaker 3: together and making the rest of the sport in college football,
27:59
Speaker 3: not the other sports, but just in college football, making
28:02
Speaker 3: them sign a document that basically said, you are a
28:05
Speaker 3: lesser than I am better than you. I am here
28:09
Speaker 3: to protect the longevity of the sport by letting you
28:12
Speaker 3: know that we are more important than you, and you're
28:14
Speaker 3: going to sign on the dotted line agreeing to that
28:17
Speaker 3: and thus allowing us, the actual power brokers in this sport,
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Speaker 3: to decide what the future of the sport is going
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Speaker 3: to be. All Right, that was signed, That was signed
28:26
Speaker 3: by Big twelve commissioners, that was signed by a SEC commissioners,
28:28
Speaker 3: that was signed by the group or the non group
28:31
Speaker 3: of fours. All Right, it was the Memorandum of Understanding.
28:34
Speaker 3: We called it on our network, the Memorandum of supremacy,
28:38
Speaker 3: letting everyone in the sport know that we are top dog.
28:41
Speaker 3: We will move this sport how it's supposed to be moved.
28:44
Speaker 3: So what does that mean? And what are some other
28:47
Speaker 3: tea leaves that they've dropped. Well, if you've listened to
28:49
Speaker 3: Tony Battiti, the Big Ten commissioner as of late, they
28:52
Speaker 3: have let the world know they're going to twenty four
28:54
Speaker 3: teams in the college football playoff by twenty twenty nine.
28:57
Speaker 3: And this's going to happen. And they are willing to
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Speaker 3: go to sixteen all right by twenty or before twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty nine, but only under the promise that we will
29:06
Speaker 3: go into twenty four. And so I'm like, that gets
29:09
Speaker 3: reported like two months ago and on, and everybody craps on.
29:11
Speaker 3: Everybody's like, this is a terrible idea. Twenty four team playoff?
29:14
Speaker 1: Hell no.
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Speaker 3: And then about a week ago, Josh Heipel, an SEC
29:18
Speaker 3: football head coach, is like, hey, you know what, twenty
29:21
Speaker 3: four might be a decent idea. And then Kirby Smart,
29:24
Speaker 3: an SEC had football coach, is like, you know what,
29:27
Speaker 3: twenty four might be a good idea. This is how
29:29
Speaker 3: this happens. Like they talk in front of individually like
29:32
Speaker 3: this Thanky is gonna be like SEC sixteen tight teams. Well, YadA, YadA, YadA.
29:37
Speaker 3: But when they're behind closed doors collectively bargaining as power
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Speaker 3: brokers themselves, they have a clearcut mission. It's twenty four
29:44
Speaker 3: and it's a super League essentially including Notre Dame. And
29:47
Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna pillage some other teams from some
29:49
Speaker 3: of these lesser than conferences at some point. I pay
29:52
Speaker 3: attention to what they do publicly as a collective.
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Speaker 1: When I was talking to Kyle Whittingham when I interviewed
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Speaker 1: them last year in Utah, he said, we are five
30:02
Speaker 1: years or less away from a super conference. And he
30:05
Speaker 1: was the only person that I interviewed out of ten
30:08
Speaker 1: coaches last year, forty five minute interviews, only one of
30:12
Speaker 1: them was willing to say that. Well, actually, I don't
30:14
Speaker 1: even prompt him to say it. He just came out
30:16
Speaker 1: and said it. Some of the other ones said it
30:19
Speaker 1: off the record, but he was just like, yeah, yeah,
30:22
Speaker 1: here's here, here's what's going to happen, and here's how
30:25
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Now, I've been a firm believer that's.
30:29
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, oh that is what's even scarier about that.
30:32
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham comment is that he just foto retirement to
30:36
Speaker 3: get into one of the conferences that's going to get
30:39
Speaker 3: joined in. The Super League got their Michigan, so.
30:43
Speaker 1: Well, see, I feel like that they were forcing him out.
30:47
Speaker 3: And he also know they had the next head coach,
30:50
Speaker 3: all that good stuff, but he he was off. He
30:53
Speaker 3: was on the bench for a very short year before
30:56
Speaker 3: he got Oh, one of these jobs is open.
30:58
Speaker 1: They made it clear because because remember it was painted
31:02
Speaker 1: originally as a retirement and then ten minutes later, no, no, no, no,
31:06
Speaker 1: he's not actually retiring. He's just stepping back into a
31:10
Speaker 1: different role. And I was like, oh, I know it too.
31:13
Speaker 1: Up to buddy, I know it. So I'm a firm
31:18
Speaker 1: believer though, Brooks that collective bargaining is the only way forward.
31:22
Speaker 1: That means that all of the commissioners and the ncuble
31:26
Speaker 1: A they have to give up power. There has to
31:28
Speaker 1: be one single entity that the players who need to
31:32
Speaker 1: unionize can then negotiate with and then guess what happens.
31:36
Speaker 1: We don't need executive orders to to try to which
31:41
Speaker 1: aren't gonna work because the next president can change them.
31:44
Speaker 1: So you actually have to get laws on the on
31:47
Speaker 1: the books, and anti trust exemption is not gonna solve
31:50
Speaker 1: it because you've had things like that and they continuously
31:53
Speaker 1: get blown up in court. So collective bargaining that means
31:56
Speaker 1: that the players and the and whoever's in charge that one.
32:00
Speaker 1: They will talk about eligibility, they will talk about contracts,
32:05
Speaker 1: they will talk about all of these things. You won't
32:07
Speaker 1: have Darien Mensa leaving under contract because you won't be
32:10
Speaker 1: able to. You won't have players checking out, not during
32:14
Speaker 1: the portal and then just unenrolling in and rolling at
32:17
Speaker 1: another school. Collective bargaining it protects It protects the schools,
32:21
Speaker 1: it protects the players. And then they're like, oh, well
32:24
Speaker 1: the players don't want it. No, no, only the top
32:27
Speaker 1: one percent doesn't want it.
32:29
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, the.
32:30
Speaker 1: Collective bargaining in any other sport is it's not best
32:34
Speaker 1: for the people who make the most money. It's actually
32:37
Speaker 1: best for the for the other ninety nine percent below them.
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Speaker 3: Now, George, this might not be as entertaining for our
32:44
Speaker 3: audience as it is for me, because I'm an inquisitive person.
32:48
Speaker 3: You've been in these rooms, you've been in collective barty meetings,
32:51
Speaker 3: and you've done this because you've played professional football, you've
32:54
Speaker 3: been in a CBA. Yeah, I've always thought that collectively
32:59
Speaker 3: bargaining for college athletics would be impossible. The weakest sports
33:03
Speaker 3: union that we have is football professional unions because they're
33:07
Speaker 3: a too large b They scatter the needs of people
33:12
Speaker 3: from forty million dollar athletes to eight hundred thousand dollars athletes.
33:16
Speaker 3: They don't collectively bargain for anything together. They have different needs.
33:20
Speaker 3: So that's first and foremost. But we're talking about a
33:23
Speaker 3: body of student athletes or athletes and employees and college
33:27
Speaker 3: football that are much much bigger. Yes, So if that
33:31
Speaker 3: were ever to be successful, in my opinion, we would
33:33
Speaker 3: have to get to a dwindling of parties, meaning we're
33:36
Speaker 3: probably gonna have to get to some type of super
33:38
Speaker 3: league where we don't have one hundred and thirty eight
33:39
Speaker 3: teams collectively bargaining. Because Wake Forest's needs are totally different
33:43
Speaker 3: than Ohio State's needs. God forbid we draft or do
33:47
Speaker 3: we extrapolate that out even further. UTEP's needs do not
33:51
Speaker 3: equate to the players on George's roster. So I do
33:55
Speaker 3: think to ever get to some type of collectively bargained
33:57
Speaker 3: agreement don't you agree we'd have to get to some
33:59
Speaker 3: type of super league because we have to separate the difference.
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Speaker 1: Correct, there, there's gonna be half to because the needs
34:07
Speaker 1: are so different. But the so you may have to
34:12
Speaker 1: have one for whatever that super league is, and then
34:15
Speaker 1: you have one for the FCS level, have one for
34:18
Speaker 1: the G five level, or maybe maybe the g G
34:20
Speaker 1: five gets lumped into that some some sort of way,
34:23
Speaker 1: and then there's the vision two. So, yes, the the
34:25
Speaker 1: needs are different, but your alternative is to continue to
34:29
Speaker 1: try to put band aids on a gunshot wound. The
34:34
Speaker 1: only way is to blow it up. Oh, the the only,
34:38
Speaker 1: the only way.
34:39
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Like you said, I don't think an
34:41
Speaker 3: executive order is actually gonna work. I think it's gonna
34:43
Speaker 3: have a little motion at first, and then it'll get
34:45
Speaker 3: shut down. I mean even the President himself was like,
34:47
Speaker 3: it's gonna get sued in oblivion. Well, hopeful that we
34:50
Speaker 3: get a positive judge that sees it our way. I
34:53
Speaker 3: think everyone agrees we have to get some type of
34:55
Speaker 3: regulation on the sport, and the only way to get
34:57
Speaker 3: some type of regulation on the sport is to no
34:59
Speaker 3: longer anti trust lawsuits, which means we're going to have
35:02
Speaker 3: to separate essentially football from college athletics. And that's a
35:08
Speaker 3: real sore, touchy subject because the whole reason most people
35:13
Speaker 3: love college football, at least in my early childhood and
35:16
Speaker 3: when I fell in love with it is because of
35:17
Speaker 3: the school allegiance, because it is the uniform, because it
35:21
Speaker 3: is the university. Because my dad did go to that school, right.
35:25
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I did go to that
35:27
Speaker 3: school TYPEO.
35:30
Speaker 1: Like, I believe that you're going to get more kids
35:33
Speaker 1: staying at schools for longer within that's.
35:36
Speaker 3: That's great for the general health of the sport and
35:38
Speaker 3: for those teams. I'm just saying, you're gonna have a
35:41
Speaker 3: hard time the moment we separate football from the school.
35:45
Speaker 3: You have a hard time getting over that barrier for traditionalists.
35:49
Speaker 3: And I think traditionalists at this point no longer exists anyways.
35:52
Speaker 3: So we're all like, what the hell we're getting bombs
35:54
Speaker 3: dropped on us from a change of sport standpoint left
35:57
Speaker 3: and right. We're like, all of it. Traditionalists have been
36:00
Speaker 3: going crazy for like four or five years now, So
36:03
Speaker 3: give me some type of stability, even if it feels different.
36:06
Speaker 1: You know what I mean exactly, and it's an adapt
36:09
Speaker 1: or die sort of situation where it's like, let's go
36:13
Speaker 1: back to the old days. Man, you cannot put two
36:15
Speaker 1: pays back into two. Once it's out already, there's nothing
36:19
Speaker 1: you can do about it. But Brooks, I want to
36:22
Speaker 1: get onto this season because we got oh my god,
36:26
Speaker 1: we just finished, I believe, which was one of the
36:28
Speaker 1: best college football seasons that we've ever had. I loved
36:32
Speaker 1: the fact that Indiana won because it gave everybody hope.
36:39
Speaker 2: Right.
36:39
Speaker 1: And this is what I've said that every college football
36:41
Speaker 1: fan needs. And you can tell me what you think
36:44
Speaker 1: about it, because traditional people have argued me down. Georgia's
36:48
Speaker 1: been like this forever. The Alabama's and the Ohio State's
36:52
Speaker 1: a way up here, the Wake Forest and Indiana and
36:56
Speaker 1: all these schools, they don't need hope. And I believe
36:59
Speaker 1: that in the attention economy that we live in, that
37:02
Speaker 1: fans need to believe that within three years, if you
37:05
Speaker 1: get the right coach, recruit the right players, and recruit
37:10
Speaker 1: the right transfer portal put people that you can too
37:13
Speaker 1: have a chance to win your league. I believe that
37:16
Speaker 1: that is that's for the health of college football.
37:19
Speaker 3: George, I love you to death. I do. I think
37:22
Speaker 3: you just provided a whole lot of falseness of hope
37:25
Speaker 3: to a lot of people. I'm known as the film guy.
37:28
Speaker 3: I know you watch ball. I know you know ball.
37:30
Speaker 3: I think saying that what Indiana has done is replicable
37:34
Speaker 3: is so disingenuous to the coaching job that kerk Signetti
37:37
Speaker 3: has done, the coaching job that Brian Haynes has done,
37:40
Speaker 3: the coaching job that Mike Shanahan has done. Like the
37:43
Speaker 3: type of coaching and the type of execution that that
37:46
Speaker 3: football team has had for the last twenty four months
37:49
Speaker 3: is not replicable. I don't think if it was like
37:54
Speaker 3: we would have a different story like this, it would
37:56
Speaker 3: have happened in the prior histories. In fact, it was
38:00
Speaker 3: easier to be one of these. I'm not calling them
38:03
Speaker 3: a Cinderella story, but from a blue chip like what
38:06
Speaker 3: we know about talent acquisition and what great national championship
38:09
Speaker 3: rosters look like from a talent standpoint, they are not replicable.
38:14
Speaker 3: They are a different storyline. Now. I think that is
38:19
Speaker 3: a absolute testament, in my opinion, again to the coaching
38:22
Speaker 3: job that kirksing that he has done, because when I
38:25
Speaker 3: watch them on tape, man and even like in the
38:27
Speaker 3: upcoming draft, they'll have the number one player drafted and
38:30
Speaker 3: then we'll go like fifty picks before another Indiana player
38:35
Speaker 3: comes up off board. And they went sixteen to know,
38:38
Speaker 3: they are the best college football team ever. I have said,
38:41
Speaker 3: if anyone goes sixteen to OHO in a twelve team format,
38:43
Speaker 3: you are the best. I have no light debate like
38:46
Speaker 3: you did it. I didn't think it was gonna be done.
38:48
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's gonna be undefeated anymore. They did it.
38:50
Speaker 3: So they are the best team ever, and they will
38:52
Speaker 3: have like nowhere near the amount of what we normally
38:57
Speaker 3: correlate toft like draft success and teams like even that
39:01
Speaker 3: Michigan team was a team built off depth and age.
39:03
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three guys, they broke school records for
39:06
Speaker 3: draft picks. They had thirteen guys drafted, like normally it
39:10
Speaker 3: happens like that. They did not, so that that to
39:12
Speaker 3: me is a coaching thing and an execution thing, and
39:14
Speaker 3: it is replicable at Indiana. I think they're gonna keep
39:17
Speaker 3: turning this thing out. I just don't know how everybody
39:19
Speaker 3: else says, oh, I can do that, because they did it.
39:21
Speaker 1: Well, See, I'm not speaking about a national championship. I'm
39:25
Speaker 1: saying that you should that within three years that if.
39:28
Speaker 3: You like, you can actually compete.
39:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, that you can be in the top end
39:33
Speaker 1: of your conference and you can have something going. Because
39:38
Speaker 1: I believe that parody is best for college football. I'm
39:41
Speaker 1: an Oregon guy, dude, I played there, so of course
39:44
Speaker 1: I would love that this system benefits Oregon. It is
39:47
Speaker 1: just fine. But I believe that for the health of
39:51
Speaker 1: college football, sometimes Oregon does need to be bad and
39:55
Speaker 1: you know, and Perdue has a chance to win a
39:57
Speaker 1: national championship and then I mean that way, it's it's
40:00
Speaker 1: more cyclical like the NFL where the Kansas City Chiefs
40:03
Speaker 1: were really good when I was playing, and then they
40:06
Speaker 1: were bad, and then they're really good again and then
40:08
Speaker 1: they had a down year this year. I believe that
40:11
Speaker 1: those types of things are best for the overall health
40:15
Speaker 1: of the sport.
40:18
Speaker 3: My counter to that is, and I know we're not
40:21
Speaker 3: in a debate format, we're just having a discussion, but
40:24
Speaker 3: my counter to that is, like, look at the NBA
40:26
Speaker 3: right now. The NBA has nothing but parody. Haven't they
40:29
Speaker 3: had a new champion the last seven years? And their
40:32
Speaker 3: growth chart is like this. I think there is something
40:36
Speaker 3: about fandom, there is something about general American audiences that
40:40
Speaker 3: having a champion to knock off is something that is needed.
40:43
Speaker 3: Having a regime to go after is needed in this
40:46
Speaker 3: sporting world that we can't be churning them out every year.
40:49
Speaker 3: We can't just be like, oh, now it's this team's turn.
40:52
Speaker 3: Like we have to have something to like known commodities
40:56
Speaker 3: in the sport. So I think we're in a magical
40:59
Speaker 3: era where we kind of have the best of both worlds,
41:01
Speaker 3: where there's thirty teams that have the budget and the
41:04
Speaker 3: resources and the abilities to compete at a high end level,
41:07
Speaker 3: and we have a pool of seventy teams that matter.
41:11
Speaker 3: I think that's a good place to be. I don't
41:13
Speaker 3: think we need to be where we were where there
41:14
Speaker 3: were six teams every year, where we felt like there
41:16
Speaker 3: could be, And I don't think we need to be
41:18
Speaker 3: on the whole other end where everybody's got a chance
41:20
Speaker 3: every single year and everybody's seven and five. I don't
41:23
Speaker 3: think that's good for the sport.
41:24
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so, so I don't want to flat like
41:27
Speaker 1: where you know, except five, I just think that you should.
41:30
Speaker 3: Have I think we're in a good happy meetium right
41:33
Speaker 3: now where we are, Yes, from up to where you
41:35
Speaker 3: standpoint yeah, to where you know the big names aren't
41:39
Speaker 3: gonna make the way.
41:40
Speaker 1: Texas is not in the College football Playoffs every year,
41:43
Speaker 1: Alabama's not in it every year, George's not in it
41:46
Speaker 1: every year, and that you have these other teams that
41:49
Speaker 1: can spike up that that's what I'm saying correct. But
41:52
Speaker 1: now I want to go on to the SEC because
41:56
Speaker 1: we got to talk about So we've talked about on
41:58
Speaker 1: the show the Big Tens biggest fears of this year.
42:02
Speaker 1: We got the SEC, each team their biggest fear of
42:06
Speaker 1: the year. I'll let you go first because this is
42:10
Speaker 1: you know, this is the conference that you know like
42:12
Speaker 1: the back of your head, you live amongst these people.
42:16
Speaker 1: I've lived amongst these people as well. So when they
42:19
Speaker 1: say it matters more, I won one hundred percent agree
42:22
Speaker 1: with that. It does matter more to people in the South.
42:25
Speaker 1: I was born in Memphis, lived there for a long time,
42:28
Speaker 1: lived in Florida, so I get it. Lived amongst all
42:31
Speaker 1: the Florida Gators on my team.
42:33
Speaker 2: But we will.
42:34
Speaker 1: Start with the Alabama Crimson tie. What do you believe
42:39
Speaker 1: their biggest fear like deep down inside their soul that
42:43
Speaker 1: they don't want to admit that they are afraid of
42:46
Speaker 1: this season.
42:47
Speaker 3: That the offensive line didn't get rebuilt like they hope
42:50
Speaker 3: it did. They have seven new offensive linemen. I believe
42:54
Speaker 3: it is most of them try. I think three transferred
42:57
Speaker 3: in from SEC schools, so that that would be a
43:00
Speaker 3: primary concern. Like I think both I just got done
43:02
Speaker 3: watching both quarterbacks. I think both quarterbacks are uber talented.
43:05
Speaker 3: I think they'll be fine at the quarterback position weaponry wise.
43:08
Speaker 3: Like I'm a big Lotzier Brooks fan, Like I think
43:11
Speaker 3: he's an elite weaponry guy at the slot position. We'll
43:14
Speaker 3: see what they ultimately get out of Noah Rodgers, the
43:16
Speaker 3: transfer from NC State. You know, Derek Meadow is a
43:19
Speaker 3: former five star wide receiver. Can he develop out there
43:22
Speaker 3: on the edge, And obviously everybody knows and as well
43:25
Speaker 3: aware of Ryan Williams and whether or not he will
43:26
Speaker 3: return to kind of that freshman lore after a down
43:29
Speaker 3: year of sophomore year. But none of that matters. If
43:32
Speaker 3: they can't block people, it's bad. It was It's so
43:36
Speaker 3: not like people say Alabama stand it's not even SEC standards.
43:39
Speaker 3: It's not even good SEC standards the last couple of
43:42
Speaker 3: years at the offensive line position. Their damn quarterback played
43:46
Speaker 3: last year with back spasms and cracked ribs to finish
43:48
Speaker 3: the season. That's what it was. So their biggest fear
43:52
Speaker 3: is offensive line. Defensively, they'll be great. It'll be really,
43:55
Speaker 3: really hard to move the football against Alabama this year.
43:59
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you about the old line because
44:02
Speaker 1: watching Alabama not be able to run the ball rush
44:05
Speaker 1: for like thirteen hundred yards on the on the whole season,
44:09
Speaker 1: you were like, what yuck?
44:11
Speaker 3: And so you can't. You can't take their leading rush
44:15
Speaker 3: for the last two years and have him combined for
44:17
Speaker 3: a thousand total yards.
44:20
Speaker 1: That's that's sad. I believe their biggest fear is that
44:26
Speaker 1: Kaylin de Boor is a very good coach, he's just
44:29
Speaker 1: not an SEC coach and that and that it's gonna
44:34
Speaker 1: either that or it's gonna take him longer to figure
44:37
Speaker 1: out the dynamics of winning in the SEC at the
44:40
Speaker 1: level that Alabama believes because with the way college football
44:45
Speaker 1: is trending, and I know Alabama fans don't want to
44:48
Speaker 1: hear it, Brooks, but they're they're not a super money school,
44:54
Speaker 1: so they're more trending out of you know, from one
44:58
Speaker 1: of the top programs. They feel like that they're headed
45:01
Speaker 1: to be a top fifteen program instead of a top
45:04
Speaker 1: five program.
45:06
Speaker 3: I mean, they'll be preseason ranked somewhere around twelve to
45:10
Speaker 3: fifteen for the first time in a long time, in
45:13
Speaker 3: a long time, So, I mean, I do think they
45:16
Speaker 3: need to adjust their standards from an expectation standpoint of
45:20
Speaker 3: Like used to you had a talented roster that felt
45:22
Speaker 3: like you could roll everybody, and if you didn't, it
45:24
Speaker 3: was a lack of coaching. Well, well now dude, you're
45:27
Speaker 3: going to war every single day where the point spreads
45:30
Speaker 3: are no longer Bama minus seventeen and a half. Now
45:33
Speaker 3: they're Bama minus four and a half. And that's still
45:36
Speaker 3: because they're Bama, and they're still really talented, by the way,
45:39
Speaker 3: Like if you look at what they did in twenty
45:40
Speaker 3: twenty six recruiting wise, I know that's why I always
45:43
Speaker 3: look at for how much money you have available, are
45:46
Speaker 3: you signing blue chip prospects in high school because that
45:48
Speaker 3: costs money. Nowadays they still do that. They're still recruiting
45:52
Speaker 3: really really well, so they have some type of resources.
45:54
Speaker 3: But I'm with you, they're not one of these forty
45:56
Speaker 3: and a half million dollar rosters, forty five million dollar rosters.
45:58
Speaker 3: They're not.
46:00
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to the Arkansas Razorbacks new
46:03
Speaker 1: head coach. I believe Arkansas's biggest fear is that they're
46:09
Speaker 1: gonna have to apologize to Ryan Silverfield, that that that
46:14
Speaker 1: the way that they treated him in when he took
46:17
Speaker 1: that job coming over from from If they're like, oh, oh, fine,
46:21
Speaker 1: I guess we'll take him.
46:23
Speaker 2: We didn't.
46:23
Speaker 1: We didn't get Alex Golish, we didn't get a ret lastly,
46:27
Speaker 1: we didn't get anybody we actually wanted. But come on, whatever,
46:31
Speaker 1: and he goes out and he does a good job,
46:34
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have to apologize because then he's
46:38
Speaker 1: gonna say, I know, we got this Tyson food money,
46:41
Speaker 1: but y'all really love me like that. So when so,
46:44
Speaker 1: if Kaylin de Bor gets fired at Alabama or or
46:47
Speaker 1: you know, Florida State opens after this year or something,
46:51
Speaker 1: I might go where I'm actually wanted.
46:54
Speaker 3: You're higher on the Silverfield stock than I am. Silverfield
46:59
Speaker 3: had the best mid major job in the world. I
47:01
Speaker 3: don't think people know that. Like you talk, you made
47:03
Speaker 3: a joke about Tyson food money, but he just came
47:05
Speaker 3: from FedEx money down there in Memphis, Like he had
47:08
Speaker 3: more money in the American Conference then maybe the bottom
47:13
Speaker 3: half of that conference combined. Like if I took the
47:16
Speaker 3: bottom six teams in the American and put their roster
47:18
Speaker 3: value and combine them, they probably don't equate what Memphis
47:21
Speaker 3: spent last year on that what three loss football team.
47:25
Speaker 3: So I'm not as big on the silver field situation
47:28
Speaker 3: as as most people are, at least going in now.
47:30
Speaker 3: The early results have been really, really good. I mean
47:33
Speaker 3: he I think he flipped seven in state recruits the
47:37
Speaker 3: day he had his introductory press conference. He doing something
47:41
Speaker 3: right now, So there's gonna be some juice there. I mean,
47:45
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be a two win football team this year.
47:46
Speaker 3: I don't believe. I didn't think they should have been
47:48
Speaker 3: last year. But here's my biggest fear, as the SEC
47:52
Speaker 3: homer that you labeled me to open and there is
47:55
Speaker 3: some of that. I am, George, George, George, I'm honest,
48:00
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm a little bit of an SEC hack.
48:02
Speaker 3: I am. OK. Here was my biggest Here was my
48:04
Speaker 3: biggest Like, oh, when Bob Chesney looked at the Arkansas
48:12
Speaker 3: job and was like, you know what, I think I'd
48:15
Speaker 3: rather go to take that second best job in LA.
48:18
Speaker 3: That to me was like, oh oh oh, the thirteenth
48:23
Speaker 3: best job in the SEC, for my money, is not
48:27
Speaker 3: as good as the fifteenth best job in the Big ten.
48:30
Speaker 3: I need to start changing my toney. I'm giving, buddy,
48:35
Speaker 3: I'm giving where they've been the last ten fifteen years.
48:38
Speaker 3: That's what they have been the last ten or fifteen years.
48:41
Speaker 3: UCLA has been a non competitive football program, even when
48:44
Speaker 3: they had a decent football coach at Chip Kelly. In
48:46
Speaker 3: my mind, that's how I view it. This has been changed,
48:50
Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to say. When Bob Chesney looks
48:53
Speaker 3: at both of those jobs, I would assume got calls
48:56
Speaker 3: from both of those jobs and was like, I ain't
48:59
Speaker 3: going to little that he was that to me, it
49:03
Speaker 3: was eye opening. That was like, oh maybe maybe all
49:06
Speaker 3: of this stuff I've been thinking about these jobs is
49:08
Speaker 3: totally different now. And to me it is I'm changing
49:12
Speaker 3: how I look at these bottom end lead teams in
49:15
Speaker 3: these conferences.
49:16
Speaker 1: Dude, u c l A Is in Los Angeles.
49:20
Speaker 2: The weather's better.
49:22
Speaker 3: You on Los Angeles. You got to show me the
49:26
Speaker 3: ability to win at u c l A. You gotta
49:29
Speaker 3: sell me on that.
49:30
Speaker 1: I do believe so. So in meeting Bob Chesney, right,
49:36
Speaker 1: so I've I've had a chance to spend a little
49:38
Speaker 1: bit of time with him. We will be interviewing him soon,
49:42
Speaker 1: but had a chance to spend a little bit of
49:44
Speaker 1: time with him. He's very charismatic, he's very confident and
49:48
Speaker 1: believes in what he's doing. So I believe that there
49:51
Speaker 1: will be a natural uptick for them. And from everything
49:56
Speaker 1: that i'm that, I'm hearing that the that the resources
50:00
Speaker 1: are availed, that they are unlocking significant more significantly more resources.
50:06
Speaker 1: There is the most applied to university in the world.
50:09
Speaker 1: That people are now like, hey, yo, if you want
50:12
Speaker 1: to get hey man, you got to kick down some dollars.
50:15
Speaker 1: So it's just what it is, man. And so I
50:19
Speaker 1: believe that he's gonna be able to have some success.
50:22
Speaker 1: But back to Arkansas, though, I don't look at Arkansas
50:28
Speaker 1: as a place that you can win a national championship at,
50:33
Speaker 1: even though even though Indiana just showed me that it
50:38
Speaker 1: can be done anywhere that the most losing this program ever.
50:42
Speaker 1: But I also look at Arkansas and I'm like, but
50:47
Speaker 1: that that Tyson Food money. If that Tyson Food money
50:50
Speaker 1: is kick kicking down.
50:51
Speaker 3: That Tyson Food money has been there. That Tyson Food
50:54
Speaker 3: money has been there. They put the logo on the
50:56
Speaker 3: field two and a half years ago, I think, so
50:59
Speaker 3: it's been there. They also have an athletic director, George
51:01
Speaker 3: that has been very open about the fact that baseball
51:04
Speaker 3: and basketball matter more there because they actually this is
51:07
Speaker 3: these are his words, I'm paraphrasing him, they actually have
51:10
Speaker 3: a chance to win in those sports. They actually have
51:12
Speaker 3: a chance to win in basketball and in baseball, and
51:15
Speaker 3: so they spend there. Look at their basketball and baseball rosters.
51:19
Speaker 3: They are at the top end of the SEC. They're
51:21
Speaker 3: not in football. So maybe Silverfield changes all that, may
51:26
Speaker 3: changed all that of deck.
51:28
Speaker 2: No doubt, you know, Rams share money.
51:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I yeah, I think we bought. We've spent
51:34
Speaker 3: way too much time in Arkansas.
51:37
Speaker 1: No, nobody's ever spent as much time on Arkansas. All right,
51:42
Speaker 1: Next up the Alex Golish lad Auburn Tigers. What is
51:48
Speaker 1: your biggest fear or what is our Auburn's biggest fear
51:52
Speaker 1: for this year?
51:54
Speaker 3: Uh? They're wide choice team number three. That would that
51:58
Speaker 3: would be my biggest. I'm not ranking them numbers. I'm
52:00
Speaker 3: saying they're the third to enter the conference. That When
52:03
Speaker 3: Alex Golish was at Tennessee in twenty twenty two and
52:07
Speaker 3: they were the first one in this conference to really
52:09
Speaker 3: bring this here and do this, everybody was kind of like, whoa, Hey, whoa,
52:13
Speaker 3: we got to change everything about prep when we prepare
52:16
Speaker 3: for Tennessee. That was twenty twenty two. This is twenty
52:19
Speaker 3: twenty six, and Tennessee has been around, and Tennessee has
52:22
Speaker 3: been successful, almost too successful, to the point where they've
52:26
Speaker 3: remorphed their whole offense. If you watch Tennessee now, they're
52:29
Speaker 3: not really a wide choice team. They have white choice principals.
52:32
Speaker 3: They're not living outside of the numbers for eighty five
52:35
Speaker 3: snaps a game. In fact, they bunched far more than
52:38
Speaker 3: any football team labeled white choice I've ever seen. So
52:42
Speaker 3: they've had to adapt because I think the league defensively
52:45
Speaker 3: has adapt. Mississippi State over under Jeff Levy is doing
52:49
Speaker 3: this or attempting to do this, hasn't been uber successful.
52:53
Speaker 3: If you remember Jackson Arnold's debacle year at Oklahoma, they
52:57
Speaker 3: were trying to wide choice out there really work Now
53:02
Speaker 3: that's the bad news. Like the league is very very
53:04
Speaker 3: aware of how to defend what they've got going on.
53:07
Speaker 3: Here's the good news. They have the cheat code for
53:09
Speaker 3: a wide choice system, which is an absolute athletic freak
53:12
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. Everybody thinks. Everybody thinks wide choice
53:16
Speaker 3: is about throwing the ball down the field and throwing
53:19
Speaker 3: for five thousand yards a year. And though it can
53:22
Speaker 3: lead to that, White choice is about lightening the box
53:25
Speaker 3: to run the football, and that is what it's all about.
53:29
Speaker 3: And that's what that dude is really really good at
53:31
Speaker 3: and it makes them good in the red zone. It
53:33
Speaker 3: kind of tilts the negatives about white choice white choice
53:37
Speaker 3: when the field shrinks. Historically, those teams are atrocious in
53:40
Speaker 3: the red zone because they can't balance the counts anymore.
53:43
Speaker 3: They can't use the field length as an advantage and
53:46
Speaker 3: the top end as an advantage. Therefore the box gets crowded. Well,
53:49
Speaker 3: when my quarterback can run the football, we're back to
53:52
Speaker 3: even counts, we're back to balance football. USF was top
53:56
Speaker 3: five in the country Lasher in red zone conversion rate
53:58
Speaker 3: because of this, Like, they have a freak at quarterback
54:01
Speaker 3: six two hundred and thirty pounds and he ain't one
54:04
Speaker 3: of these like, oh he runs in a straight line fast. No,
54:07
Speaker 3: we got GPS metrics nowadays. This dude's in full pads,
54:10
Speaker 3: running twenty three miles an hour, two hundred thirty five pounds.
54:14
Speaker 3: He's scary. He won them ones.
54:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe that Arkansas. I'm sorry that Auburn
54:20
Speaker 1: that they need to be afraid of anything this year.
54:22
Speaker 1: Auburn doesn't need to be afraid of anything. They're playing
54:25
Speaker 1: with house money.
54:26
Speaker 2: They're on their.
54:27
Speaker 1: Third coach in three years, so there's no reason why
54:32
Speaker 1: they need to be afraid. There's nowhere to go but up.
54:37
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could fall down lower in
54:40
Speaker 1: the SEC, but nobody's really talking about you. You got
54:43
Speaker 1: players transferring out. At least you have some hope now.
54:48
Speaker 1: And it feels like that the floor is that this
54:51
Speaker 1: is somebody who actually belongs at Auburn. That Alex Goliz
54:55
Speaker 1: feels like a guy that can be happy there, that's
54:58
Speaker 1: not going to be peeking around see what other jobs
55:00
Speaker 1: come come open. He feels like a guy who's thankful
55:04
Speaker 1: he's kind of given me some and granted we do
55:07
Speaker 1: have to see the results, but he's given me some
55:09
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning vibes in that he'll be content where he's at,
55:15
Speaker 1: that when something else comes open, that he ain't really
55:19
Speaker 1: gonna be entertaining it, and we that they're not going
55:22
Speaker 1: to have a circus year in and year out.
55:25
Speaker 3: You mentioned something that I vehemently disagree with. Alex Golias
55:29
Speaker 3: is happy. That dude doesn't look like he's ever happy
55:32
Speaker 3: to mean that he's a lunatic. He was like, he's crazy,
55:36
Speaker 3: and I do I do correlate that to Dan Lanning.
55:39
Speaker 3: By the way, your head coach is content where he's
55:43
Speaker 3: at because he knows if he does not win, he
55:45
Speaker 3: blames that on himself and he works himself into a
55:47
Speaker 3: fury to find the answer. I think Alex Golish is
55:51
Speaker 3: the same way. In fact, I know he is by
55:53
Speaker 3: his own words. His opening press conference, he mentioned something
55:56
Speaker 3: along the lines of I'm one of those football coaches
55:59
Speaker 3: that thinks I can go find the answer if I
56:00
Speaker 3: work hard enough for it, if I stare at the
56:02
Speaker 3: problem long enough, I find the answer. I believe that
56:05
Speaker 3: about him. I believe that this profession requires lunatics. I
56:09
Speaker 3: think he checks that box for me. Now, whether or
56:11
Speaker 3: not he will ultimately be a successful story. I don't
56:14
Speaker 3: know that, but you are right in the sense that
56:16
Speaker 3: they're playing with house money that you know. Here's what
56:19
Speaker 3: I'll say. They don't have a football coach that's gonna
56:23
Speaker 3: be golfing on Sundays during season. They don't have a
56:25
Speaker 3: football coach that is gonna be I hate to use
56:29
Speaker 3: this term because I don't know him personally, but I
56:32
Speaker 3: think Hugh Freeze to be a fraudulent football coach. From
56:36
Speaker 3: what I think about what it means to be a
56:38
Speaker 3: leader of men and to accept responsibility for the things
56:42
Speaker 3: that you are responsible for. I do not label him
56:45
Speaker 3: a very very in the leader of men category. So
56:49
Speaker 3: they got an upgrade in that standpoint.
56:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is going to help with your discipline.
56:54
Speaker 1: That's gonna help with your recruiting, being able.
56:58
Speaker 3: To just the whole projection growth of the football.
57:03
Speaker 1: Program, yep, yep, and turning out responsible humans.
57:09
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna let you go on.
57:11
Speaker 1: Your Georgia Bulldogs. What is the Georgia Bulldog's biggest fear
57:16
Speaker 1: deep down inside that they don't want to say out loud.
57:20
Speaker 3: We missed on high school recruiting evals. Here's the problem.
57:25
Speaker 3: This isn't Georgia. This is every football program like Ohio State,
57:28
Speaker 3: like Alabama, like Texas until this last offseason. If you
57:32
Speaker 3: are a high school recruiting program, if you build your
57:35
Speaker 3: entire projection of your football program off of high school athletes,
57:40
Speaker 3: you better have hit because when they get to the
57:43
Speaker 3: level that they are now, like CJ. Wilie and Taylor Taylor,
57:46
Speaker 3: they are sophomores at the University of Georgia, They're very
57:49
Speaker 3: expensive because they're the highest tandem of wide receiver targets
57:52
Speaker 3: that they have signed since George Pickens of Dominic Blaylock. Well,
57:55
Speaker 3: when they signed George Pickens a Dominate Blaylock in twenty nineteen,
57:58
Speaker 3: it didn't cost what it costs. These guys are getting
58:01
Speaker 3: paid like starters in the SEC. And if they're not
58:04
Speaker 3: as the caliber of production that Coleby Young and Zacharie
58:07
Speaker 3: Branch where, then inevitably Georgia takes a step back and
58:09
Speaker 3: wide receiver a step back that they can't afford. You
58:12
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying. So like Georgia couldn't go out
58:15
Speaker 3: and buy a fancy Zacharie Branch style weapon in the
58:19
Speaker 3: offseason this year because C. J. Wiley's expensive. Taylor Taylor
58:23
Speaker 3: is expensive, well, CJ. Wild and Taylor Taylor better be good.
58:27
Speaker 3: They better be really really good this year when they play.
58:30
Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying they won't be I'm not saying
58:31
Speaker 3: they but that's what I'm That's why I'm getting back
58:33
Speaker 3: to the evals better be right. The Evall's better be right.
58:36
Speaker 3: Same thing up at Ohio State. When we lose Sonny Styles,
58:39
Speaker 3: when we lose rvel Rees, well it's, you know, a
58:43
Speaker 3: rich man's game. They're just replacing them with five star,
58:45
Speaker 3: blue chip prospects. But those guys haven't played. They have
58:49
Speaker 3: to be really really good to match the level of production.
58:53
Speaker 3: Whereas some of these programs, like Indiana, when they lose
58:55
Speaker 3: a Fernando Mendoza, they should go buy a Josh Hoover.
58:59
Speaker 3: We know Josh Hoover's good. We've seen him play in
59:00
Speaker 3: college football, you know what I mean. He wasn't r
59:06
Speaker 3: PO in a quarter of his damn snaps either, He
59:09
Speaker 3: was actually asked to play the position. So so Josh
59:13
Speaker 3: Hoover is gonna have a breeze at Indiana. By the way,
59:16
Speaker 3: He's gonna get asked to do things like he's like,
59:18
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a high school system again
59:20
Speaker 3: when I just left the Brill system. That's all kinds
59:24
Speaker 3: of bro It's a lot of fulfilled reads, like he's
59:27
Speaker 3: actually playing the position from the pocket where it's like,
59:29
Speaker 3: oh I got to throw an RPO back shoulder fade. Okay, yeah,
59:35
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So but yeah, the the
59:37
Speaker 3: the and that's Georgia across the board, that's George. Like,
59:40
Speaker 3: George's got to get better at corner. Elis Robinson and
59:42
Speaker 3: Damelo Jones have to take a step. kJ Bolden has
59:45
Speaker 3: to be what he's ultimately supposed to be. Elijah Griffin's
59:48
Speaker 3: got to go from a really good freshman to an
59:50
Speaker 3: impact football player as a sophomore, Like the same thing.
59:53
Speaker 3: Wan Gaston's got to go from he was really good
59:55
Speaker 3: as a freshman to oh my god, he might be
59:57
Speaker 3: the best tackle in the SEC. Because that's what Monroe
59:59
Speaker 3: Free was. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, there's a
1:00:02
Speaker 3: lot of projection. It's a lot of guys got to
1:00:04
Speaker 3: get better. And that's okay because they're really talented football players. Again,
1:00:07
Speaker 3: his first world problems. It's not like they're having to
1:00:10
Speaker 3: develop three stars. It's like, hey, can the five star,
1:00:12
Speaker 3: be a five star. That's what they got to answer.
1:00:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think George's biggest fear is on offense with
1:00:18
Speaker 1: Mike Bobo. That last year they depended on Zachariat Branch
1:00:24
Speaker 1: so much like the it was almost like watching Miami
1:00:29
Speaker 1: with Malachai Tony that everything ran through him. It was screen, screen,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: anything was there, and then when you look at he
1:00:39
Speaker 1: had what double the catches of the next guy. So
1:00:42
Speaker 1: I think that that the system being able to allow
1:00:49
Speaker 1: your your quarterback gunner Stockton to actually play the position
1:00:53
Speaker 1: even more and keep himself out of out of harm's way,
1:00:57
Speaker 1: not quite run as much, and pitch it or round more.
1:01:00
Speaker 1: I think that that's their biggest fear is that they're
1:01:03
Speaker 1: not going to be able to do that, because I
1:01:05
Speaker 1: think that that's going to be the difference between them
1:01:07
Speaker 1: being a very good football team and being an actual
1:01:10
Speaker 1: elite team that can compete for a championship.
1:01:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to get some growth from the quarterback position,
1:01:17
Speaker 3: no doubt. He has to become he's a playmaker right now.
1:01:20
Speaker 3: He's got to become much better of a passer. All
1:01:22
Speaker 3: of his best players are like, damn, dude, you you're
1:01:26
Speaker 3: extending players. You almost died, but you got the ball
1:01:28
Speaker 3: off way to make a play. Well. I need to
1:01:30
Speaker 3: see some wild throws from the pocket. I think that
1:01:32
Speaker 3: will help the offense grow tremendously.
1:01:35
Speaker 2: All right, Florida Gators.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: I believe Brooks, the Florida Gators' biggest fear is is
1:01:42
Speaker 1: that we didn't hire the right coach that like I
1:01:47
Speaker 1: thought John Summerol was the perfect coach to go to LSU.
1:01:51
Speaker 1: I thought that that just made so much sense. He's
1:01:53
Speaker 1: into lane, he understands the people, he understands the boot itself.
1:01:58
Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have the lame given a name,
1:02:01
Speaker 1: but this is a good football coach, a successful football coach,
1:02:05
Speaker 1: and sometimes geography matters. I believe he will be successful
1:02:10
Speaker 1: on some level. But it also I believe that their
1:02:14
Speaker 1: feary is is that they didn't get it right.
1:02:19
Speaker 3: I think there's a weird because I have grown up
1:02:23
Speaker 3: covering Georgia. As when I say grow up by my
1:02:25
Speaker 3: professional career has grown up through covering Georgia with some
1:02:28
Speaker 3: very intimate and aware of the Florida fan base. I
1:02:33
Speaker 3: think something happened in the Florida fan base like ten
1:02:35
Speaker 3: years ago, where it became cool to be a pessimist
1:02:38
Speaker 3: where it became cool to just like crap on everything
1:02:41
Speaker 3: that they do. So I think there is a large
1:02:43
Speaker 3: portion of that fan base that thinks they just hired
1:02:45
Speaker 3: Billy Napier or two point zero. It's like, Oh, this
1:02:47
Speaker 3: is a mid major guy that's gonna come over here
1:02:49
Speaker 3: and run it like that, and I think they're fearful
1:02:51
Speaker 3: of that. That's the natural inclination, at least when they
1:02:54
Speaker 3: hired him. That's what it was. I think he's a guy.
1:02:58
Speaker 3: I think he's a great football coach. He's very relatable,
1:03:02
Speaker 3: he's very personable, and he's a hard ass. I think
1:03:05
Speaker 3: that's the having followed Kirby so closely over my career,
1:03:09
Speaker 3: that's his unique trade. His unique trade is he has
1:03:12
Speaker 3: this ability to be on go all the time, feel
1:03:15
Speaker 3: like a dictator, but everybody around him relate to him somehow.
1:03:18
Speaker 3: It's like a magic trick. Honestly, I think some are
1:03:21
Speaker 3: all might have some of that. I think he might
1:03:24
Speaker 3: have this high energy, high demands for his players, yet
1:03:29
Speaker 3: oddly relatable. I think that's the key. So I'm bullish,
1:03:35
Speaker 3: but far more bullish on the offensive coordinator hires that
1:03:37
Speaker 3: he hired right Buster Faultner is a great football coach.
1:03:41
Speaker 3: Brad White. People don't know about Brad White. Brad White
1:03:43
Speaker 3: is a great football coach. The defensive coordinator that they
1:03:46
Speaker 3: hire from Kentucky, that guy has had top fifteen defenses
1:03:49
Speaker 3: three times in the last seven years at Kentucky. That's impressive.
1:03:55
Speaker 3: So I think he did a good job from a
1:03:56
Speaker 3: coordinating standpoint. And like dude, like everything he says, his
1:04:01
Speaker 3: lip service for me is tremendous. Like prime example, he
1:04:06
Speaker 3: was asked about hiring his buddies and like bringing ga,
1:04:08
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't hire buddies. I don't hire friends.
1:04:10
Speaker 3: That's not what I do. I hire colleagues. You come here,
1:04:13
Speaker 3: you're gonna we're coming to work. You might you might
1:04:16
Speaker 3: be a friend of mine. I mean, I'd be right
1:04:17
Speaker 3: for this job. I love everything about it. We're gonna
1:04:20
Speaker 3: find out if it works though.
1:04:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I loved what he did keeping his promise
1:04:24
Speaker 1: to Tulane to donate money to.
1:04:26
Speaker 3: Their I'm saying, bro, there's not there's there's nothing he's missed.
1:04:29
Speaker 3: He's he's hit all of them. Yeah, definitely.
1:04:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:04:33
Speaker 1: That that speaks to integrity, and integrity usually has good results. Now,
1:04:40
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Wildcats Brooks. What is their biggest fear of
1:04:45
Speaker 1: this season?
1:04:48
Speaker 3: I don't think there is one. Are you talking about
1:04:50
Speaker 3: house money? This is house money, Like this is a
1:04:53
Speaker 3: football coach of Will Stein who first year head football coach.
1:04:58
Speaker 3: I think maybe there's a a little bit of a
1:05:00
Speaker 3: redemption arc for a coach like Joe Sloan who got
1:05:03
Speaker 3: shpit on way too hard at LSU in my opinion,
1:05:07
Speaker 3: like he took way too much of a run of
1:05:09
Speaker 3: a blow for a quarterback who couldn't throw the football,
1:05:11
Speaker 3: and he had football coach who was busy golfing and
1:05:13
Speaker 3: riding jet skis, Like, get the hell out of here
1:05:15
Speaker 3: for that. So I guess the fear is that Kenny
1:05:19
Speaker 3: Minchie was in a really expensive football player who can't play.
1:05:22
Speaker 3: Maybe didn't they pay a lot of money for him,
1:05:25
Speaker 3: like randomly out of nowhere?
1:05:27
Speaker 1: So, yeah, because he was supposed to go to Missouri.
1:05:29
Speaker 1: Was he supposed to go to Missouri first?
1:05:32
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:05:32
Speaker 2: He was.
1:05:32
Speaker 3: I think he was committed. So anyways, but like you
1:05:35
Speaker 3: got another Zach Calzada situation, maybe where your backup quarterback
1:05:38
Speaker 3: sucks and his money spreading on timelines. Like maybe that's
1:05:41
Speaker 3: the biggest fear. But other than that, I think you're
1:05:43
Speaker 3: playing with house money.
1:05:45
Speaker 1: I think will Stein does a good job identifying well, huh, okay,
1:05:52
Speaker 1: does a good job of coaching quarterbacks because they did
1:05:56
Speaker 1: not necessarily recruit at the highest level at quarterback, even
1:06:00
Speaker 1: though they did recruit Dante Moore got him to commit,
1:06:04
Speaker 1: but then he went to UCLA and then he came
1:06:06
Speaker 1: came back. So he did a good job coaching Bo Knicks,
1:06:09
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel, and Dante Moore. But the kids he recruited
1:06:13
Speaker 1: out of high school, it didn't really work out very well.
1:06:16
Speaker 1: So maybe he's a transfer portal identifier guy and maybe
1:06:20
Speaker 1: not the high school identifier guy.
1:06:22
Speaker 3: But did he have time did he I'm sorry to
1:06:25
Speaker 3: cut you off, George, did he have time to really
1:06:27
Speaker 3: establish high school recruiting relationships? Wife was at Oregon? Was
1:06:29
Speaker 3: he only there for like eighteen twenty four months?
1:06:32
Speaker 2: No?
1:06:32
Speaker 3: No?
1:06:32
Speaker 1: No, well yeah, yeah, so so he was the opposite
1:06:35
Speaker 1: coordinator for Bo Nickx's last year, uh, Dylan Gabriel and
1:06:40
Speaker 1: then this year. So yeah, so he was there for
1:06:42
Speaker 1: three years. The biggest thing that I would be afraid
1:06:46
Speaker 1: of if I were Kentucky is a little bit of recruiting,
1:06:51
Speaker 1: right because if you notice when Tash Lupoi left Oregon,
1:06:57
Speaker 1: you know, four or five guys left Oregon went to
1:07:00
Speaker 1: can Nobody left Oregon and went to Kentucky. And that
1:07:07
Speaker 1: was because will Stein is not the level of dogget
1:07:10
Speaker 1: recruiter the same way that Landing and Tosh lupoyar and
1:07:16
Speaker 1: I believe that.
1:07:17
Speaker 2: No go no.
1:07:19
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I've found that to be like,
1:07:23
Speaker 3: really really repetitive with regards to offensive minds and defensive minds.
1:07:28
Speaker 3: All of our great recruiters are defensive coaches. I know
1:07:30
Speaker 3: we're really sidetracking the conversation, but it's high energy. It's
1:07:35
Speaker 3: I need you to know that I care for you
1:07:37
Speaker 3: to run through a brick wall. For me, A lot
1:07:39
Speaker 3: more people running through brick walls on the defensive side
1:07:41
Speaker 3: of football. The offense side of football. Offense is about
1:07:44
Speaker 3: making sure we're schematically tight, we're in the right area.
1:07:47
Speaker 3: Offensive minded football coaches spent far more time in the
1:07:50
Speaker 3: film room than defensive coaches. They're far more introverts. Right,
1:07:53
Speaker 3: There are no gust Miles on defensive coordinators. They don't exist.
1:07:56
Speaker 3: They're all high energy freaks, like lunatics. Oh, I think
1:08:01
Speaker 3: that's that's the thing I've stumbled upon, like just in
1:08:03
Speaker 3: my football life. It's like every high energy guy, if
1:08:07
Speaker 3: I flip the coin, it's gonna land on defensive side
1:08:10
Speaker 3: of that coin more times more times than not.
1:08:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, that and but the other the only position where
1:08:15
Speaker 1: you're super high energy usually is a line coach, like
1:08:18
Speaker 1: they're they're usually pretty fiery.
1:08:21
Speaker 2: But you are.
1:08:22
Speaker 1: You are right outside of wide receiver coaches and sometimes
1:08:26
Speaker 1: running back coaches like those are usually the two best
1:08:29
Speaker 1: recruiting guys on offense. Yeah, and where whereas on defense
1:08:35
Speaker 1: you might have all of them is really good recruiters.
1:08:38
Speaker 2: That's a fair point.
1:08:40
Speaker 1: Now, let's get on to the money bags out there,
1:08:43
Speaker 1: the forty million dollar roster LSU Tigers Brooks. What are
1:08:48
Speaker 1: they afraid of this season? Like deep down in that
1:08:52
Speaker 1: buy you heart and they are projecting strength. They are
1:08:55
Speaker 1: defending every single thing that this man does. They are
1:08:59
Speaker 1: they're like, listen, of course he left old Miss. He
1:09:03
Speaker 1: would never leave us. He actually loves us, even though
1:09:06
Speaker 1: he left Tennessee, left USC. Well, he got fired from
1:09:10
Speaker 1: the USC, but you know, like he ain't exactly he here
1:09:13
Speaker 1: for a good time, not a long time, no matter
1:09:15
Speaker 1: where he's at, despite whatever the situation is.
1:09:20
Speaker 3: My biggest fear would be the number fifty seven, which
1:09:24
Speaker 3: is the number of new football players they have on
1:09:26
Speaker 3: that roster. Now, this is what he does. He turns
1:09:28
Speaker 3: these things out every year. I mean, way he did it,
1:09:30
Speaker 3: Old miss, I thought the whole reason to go to
1:09:32
Speaker 3: LSU is because we didn't. We weren't gonna have to
1:09:34
Speaker 3: do this. You're one, You have to do this right.
1:09:36
Speaker 3: Just get all the new transfers, like churn the roster out.
1:09:40
Speaker 3: Guys that you think aren't good enough to play for you,
1:09:42
Speaker 3: get him out of here. Bring some new guys in
1:09:43
Speaker 3: the hell still an edge rusher from Tennessee if we can.
1:09:46
Speaker 3: Let's go get an offensive tackle from Colorado. Let's use
1:09:49
Speaker 3: this forty and a half million dollars. Let's go get
1:09:51
Speaker 3: after So they did all of that. I think the
1:09:54
Speaker 3: newness of it would scare me. But here's a thing
1:09:56
Speaker 3: that I want to ask you, George, because I brought
1:09:58
Speaker 3: it up on our show and I you're a good
1:10:00
Speaker 3: historian of the sports, so you can give me this.
1:10:04
Speaker 3: Has Lane Kiffen ever had expectations? Has Lane Kiffen, Apart
1:10:10
Speaker 3: from the eighteen months he's spent at USC or however
1:10:12
Speaker 3: long he was there, has he ever had you better
1:10:15
Speaker 3: win a national title while you're here expectations or has
1:10:17
Speaker 3: it always been Hey, if you win ten games, buddy,
1:10:20
Speaker 3: we're gonna build a statue of you out of this
1:10:22
Speaker 3: place until you leave and we have to burn couches
1:10:24
Speaker 3: because you did it unprofessionally.
1:10:27
Speaker 1: Yep, you outside of us. The answer is no, that's it.
1:10:32
Speaker 3: He was a long time ago and we kind of
1:10:34
Speaker 3: crumbled under those expectations to be honest with you fast.
1:10:38
Speaker 3: So so I believe you would scare me.
1:10:41
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe that the biggest fear for LSU should
1:10:45
Speaker 1: be that you hired a very good football coach, because
1:10:49
Speaker 1: he's going to produce wins. Like he's got a system,
1:10:53
Speaker 1: He's been a head coach for a long time. He's smart,
1:10:56
Speaker 1: he understands thing. My biggest concern would be is that
1:11:01
Speaker 1: he's a good football coach, that he's not an elite
1:11:04
Speaker 1: football coach in terms of the leadership component you. He
1:11:11
Speaker 1: reminds me of Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers supremely talented, got
1:11:16
Speaker 1: all the talented in the whole world. One of the
1:11:18
Speaker 1: most accurate passes of the ball that we've ever seen,
1:11:20
Speaker 1: he can make every single throw on the football field.
1:11:24
Speaker 1: The reason why Aaron Rodgers only has one super Bowl
1:11:26
Speaker 1: is because Aaron Rodgers is not a good leader.
1:11:30
Speaker 3: And he must be totally different than what we think
1:11:32
Speaker 3: him to be. And I only say that because if
1:11:36
Speaker 3: he were what we think him to be, if he
1:11:39
Speaker 3: were the persona in the person on a day to
1:11:41
Speaker 3: day basis that he projects himself to be publicly, there's
1:11:44
Speaker 3: no way in sam hell, Charlie Weis junior would sign
1:11:47
Speaker 3: up for that to be second fiddle again, you know
1:11:50
Speaker 3: what I mean? Unless like on a personal like man
1:11:52
Speaker 3: demand basis, he must just be a totally different human being.
1:11:56
Speaker 3: He must be far more likable like when you actually
1:11:59
Speaker 3: are with him, because otherwise, dude, why is why is
1:12:02
Speaker 3: Charlie Weis's not an NFL offensive coordinator right now? Why
1:12:04
Speaker 3: is Charlie Wis's not like a hot candidate to be
1:12:07
Speaker 3: a head football coach? Because he just followed Lane again
1:12:10
Speaker 3: the LSHU. That's crazy to me. The whole offensive stem did,
1:12:13
Speaker 3: the whole offensive coaching staff was like, okay, all right,
1:12:17
Speaker 3: let's go like that. That to me says that he must.
1:12:20
Speaker 1: Bad decision makers and they don't know how.
1:12:23
Speaker 3: To a whole lot of them, some good football coaches
1:12:26
Speaker 3: in that bunch, man see.
1:12:28
Speaker 1: I think some of them were like, they might not
1:12:32
Speaker 1: have been in with Golding, and they thought that this
1:12:36
Speaker 1: was their best option because they're like, Okay, we'll go
1:12:39
Speaker 1: to LSU. Maybe I can get out of there in
1:12:42
Speaker 1: the year or two if we do have success. I
1:12:44
Speaker 1: think it's tricky with coaches when, especially when you're dangling
1:12:48
Speaker 1: so much money out in front of them. Two year deal,
1:12:51
Speaker 1: three year deal. How much money are you? Does the
1:12:55
Speaker 1: head coach rock with you or does he not rock
1:12:57
Speaker 1: with you? You're not sure about Golding, he's gonna keep you
1:13:01
Speaker 1: around past the one one year because it wasn't really
1:13:03
Speaker 1: that cool. So I think that some of that factors
1:13:06
Speaker 1: into it too, And especially when they didn't know whether
1:13:09
Speaker 1: Golding was gonna get the head job or not because
1:13:11
Speaker 1: he was interim. So I think some of them made
1:13:14
Speaker 1: choices because that was the best option at the time
1:13:17
Speaker 1: when it was presented.
1:13:19
Speaker 3: No, it makes sense all right.
1:13:21
Speaker 1: The now speaking of the Pete Goldings, you got ole
1:13:25
Speaker 1: miss m hm, what do you believe Brooks that their
1:13:30
Speaker 1: biggest fear is this year.
1:13:33
Speaker 3: The fraction five of six, five of their top six
1:13:38
Speaker 3: receiving targets from a year ago are no longer on
1:13:41
Speaker 3: this roster. That would scare me. Obviously, everybody's gonna talk
1:13:45
Speaker 3: about the coaching losses, right, Charlie White Stunior gone. But like,
1:13:48
Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, but I think Joe
1:13:51
Speaker 3: Judge told be a really really good football coach. Yeah,
1:13:54
Speaker 3: I know, hot, hot take. And he got named the
1:13:58
Speaker 3: you know, head coach of the offense. It's the first
1:14:00
Speaker 3: title I've heard of that. And then Will Muschchamp got
1:14:03
Speaker 3: named head coach of the defense out there in Texas.
1:14:05
Speaker 3: But they're gonna let him run that offense. I would
1:14:08
Speaker 3: imagine the offense is gonna look really, really good. I
1:14:10
Speaker 3: also believe that Kewan Lacy and Trinidad Champlins are probably
1:14:14
Speaker 3: the two best individual talents in this conference. I think
1:14:18
Speaker 3: they're good enough to be a ten win team by themselves.
1:14:21
Speaker 3: I think that highly of those two football players. So
1:14:25
Speaker 3: my biggest fear would be weaponry replacement.
1:14:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, my biggest fear for them is that expectations have
1:14:35
Speaker 1: gotten out of whack. Is that last year's season that yes,
1:14:40
Speaker 1: you made it to the semi finals. But styles make fights,
1:14:46
Speaker 1: and I fear the same thing for Miami. Miami's like, see,
1:14:50
Speaker 1: you look, we were the second best team in the country.
1:14:52
Speaker 1: That's sort of right because you yeah, but they got better, Yeah,
1:14:56
Speaker 1: they got better.
1:14:57
Speaker 2: I think that Miami is going to.
1:14:58
Speaker 3: Be better offensively. I mean, we're going to replace a
1:15:02
Speaker 3: lot of We're gonna have to replace a lot of
1:15:03
Speaker 3: offensive line play. But like, I think Miami's roster is
1:15:07
Speaker 3: in a really, really good spot. I don't think I
1:15:09
Speaker 3: can say that about old Missus right now.
1:15:11
Speaker 1: That's the other thing is I'm just saying that as
1:15:15
Speaker 1: far as my Miami goes and and when oh miss that, yes,
1:15:21
Speaker 1: that last year was really good, But I just believe
1:15:25
Speaker 1: that they believed that they were a different caliber of
1:15:29
Speaker 1: team as opposed to, yeah, we played good at the
1:15:32
Speaker 1: right time, you know what I mean that I think
1:15:35
Speaker 1: that there are some factors there. All Right now, we're
1:15:38
Speaker 1: to go over to Oklahoma, the Oklahoma Sooners that I
1:15:44
Speaker 1: believe their biggest fear brooks for this year is that
1:15:49
Speaker 1: John materieer same offensive coordinator that he didn't get get better,
1:15:54
Speaker 1: that he's still going to be, you know, pushing balls up,
1:15:57
Speaker 1: sailing them and and inaccurate at times and that this
1:16:02
Speaker 1: offense is still going to be a just a rock
1:16:06
Speaker 1: fight and a struggle bus, which is not going to
1:16:08
Speaker 1: get them anywhere where they want to be.
1:16:11
Speaker 3: So we're moving into year four with Geometerer in this system.
1:16:17
Speaker 3: I think we spent two years under the system of
1:16:19
Speaker 3: ben Arbuckle at Washington State, spent a third at Oklahoma.
1:16:22
Speaker 3: Going into year four, I don't expect exponential growth from
1:16:25
Speaker 3: the quarterback, you know, I just don't expect to see it. Also,
1:16:29
Speaker 3: we're way way too mechanically and consistent to ever expect
1:16:33
Speaker 3: consistent growth from that football player. From my standpoint, I'm
1:16:36
Speaker 3: looking at my phone because I'm looking at these transfer
1:16:38
Speaker 3: portal editions, and I just want to clear this up
1:16:41
Speaker 3: and make sure I'm one hundred percent right here before
1:16:43
Speaker 3: I can give this take. All right, I'm gonna give
1:16:45
Speaker 3: this take. For the second straight year. I didn't feel
1:16:48
Speaker 3: like they got like good enough. They didn't do anything
1:16:50
Speaker 3: to get better at problem areas. They're taking bodies at
1:16:53
Speaker 3: wide receiver, but they didn't take a difference maker a
1:16:55
Speaker 3: wide receiver. It took a bunch of bodies. Dude. They
1:16:59
Speaker 3: needed a dude like they needed camp Coleman is what
1:17:02
Speaker 3: they needed. They needed to go spend money to go
1:17:04
Speaker 3: get a guy, and I don't think they have one
1:17:07
Speaker 3: if I look at their roster right now. Like Georgia,
1:17:11
Speaker 3: we were talking about them earlier. Their whole offensive line
1:17:14
Speaker 3: bet is that Michael Fassusi and Eddie Pierre Lewis turned
1:17:17
Speaker 3: into what they think they're supposed to be. Those are
1:17:19
Speaker 3: two freshmen playing freshman football last year, and they look
1:17:21
Speaker 3: like freshmen. They like talented freshmen, but that's what they're
1:17:25
Speaker 3: banking on right there, Like, hey, what did we do
1:17:26
Speaker 3: at running back? Did we get better there? I know
1:17:28
Speaker 3: you had a talented freshman, but we swung and missed
1:17:31
Speaker 3: on Jay not last offseason. So there are certain things
1:17:35
Speaker 3: that I look at them and I'm like, ooh. Now
1:17:36
Speaker 3: that being said, like David Stone might be one of
1:17:39
Speaker 3: the best defensive tackles in college football next year, They're
1:17:41
Speaker 3: gonna be great defensively. All they need is an offensive
1:17:46
Speaker 3: All they need is an offensive pulse. If they can
1:17:48
Speaker 3: just find a consistent heartbeat offensively, they'll be a tough
1:17:52
Speaker 3: team to beat.
1:17:54
Speaker 1: Agreed, Mississippi State, Let's head down to Starkville.
1:18:00
Speaker 3: Be quick, be quick. I don't mean, I don't mean
1:18:02
Speaker 3: to be disrespectful to the Bulldogs. But let's be quick.
1:18:05
Speaker 3: The biggest fear is that Camrio Taylor is not what
1:18:07
Speaker 3: we think he is.
1:18:09
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:18:10
Speaker 3: I just don't want a lot of money on that one.
1:18:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:18:13
Speaker 1: I just believe that that that this is going to be,
1:18:16
Speaker 1: you know, like the like the wide offense, it's a
1:18:19
Speaker 1: it's a gimmick and hopefully it works. Some They've they've improved,
1:18:24
Speaker 1: but I don't believe that there's anything to be afraid
1:18:27
Speaker 1: of for them. There's that you. You are who you
1:18:31
Speaker 1: are right now. Anything above six wins is a is
1:18:35
Speaker 1: a win for you.
1:18:37
Speaker 3: I mean, they went from a football team that lost
1:18:39
Speaker 3: every single conference football game in twenty twenty four by
1:18:42
Speaker 3: an average of seventeen points to take in Texas to
1:18:45
Speaker 3: overtime last year. So there's some uptick. I think we
1:18:49
Speaker 3: took Tennessee to overtime too, so there's some uptick. There's
1:18:52
Speaker 3: some positivity, but we'll see what it looks like. Again.
1:18:54
Speaker 3: This is the most talented football player they've had a
1:18:56
Speaker 3: quarterback ever. I know people are gonna be like, oh,
1:19:00
Speaker 3: they had Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott was not a five
1:19:02
Speaker 3: star football player like Famaro Taylor. This this kid is
1:19:05
Speaker 3: supposed to be something, so we'll see.
1:19:08
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Missouri, Eli drink Witz's drink Witz's Missouri Tigers.
1:19:16
Speaker 2: What is their biggest fear of Brooks.
1:19:23
Speaker 3: Man, I'm so down on Missoo. Me too, So I'm
1:19:26
Speaker 3: so down on Missoo. That would be my fear. I
1:19:30
Speaker 3: don't know. If I if I were a Missouri Tiger fan,
1:19:32
Speaker 3: I look at that roster and be like, holy hell,
1:19:35
Speaker 3: we're not near as good as we were the last
1:19:37
Speaker 3: two or three years. Apart from Amad Hardy, Do they
1:19:40
Speaker 3: have a preseason All SEC football player?
1:19:44
Speaker 1: Probably not.
1:19:45
Speaker 3: I just I'm on the three teams they won't, So
1:19:49
Speaker 3: it's it's fair out there.
1:19:51
Speaker 1: I don't believe in Eli drink Witz, Like he just
1:19:55
Speaker 1: doesn't jump off the screen. And I know that you
1:19:57
Speaker 1: can judge a book by its covern that's not fair,
1:20:00
Speaker 1: but he just doesn't jump off the screen. To me
1:20:03
Speaker 1: when in interviews, I don't feel inspired. I don't feel anything.
1:20:07
Speaker 1: I just okay, Like I feel like this is gonna
1:20:10
Speaker 1: be a you know, an eight and four football team, and.
1:20:15
Speaker 3: That would be that would you're you're you're a little
1:20:17
Speaker 3: bit of positive. I'm like, can we scrap the seven
1:20:20
Speaker 3: and five. I'm telling you, man, Dude, the Austin Simmons thing,
1:20:27
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna work. Like the Matt Salers
1:20:29
Speaker 3: looked okay last year, but he's got no help. Name
1:20:32
Speaker 3: another thing.
1:20:36
Speaker 2: Miss last year.
1:20:38
Speaker 3: No, he was a turnover prone like and the emotion
1:20:41
Speaker 3: is real, dippy is real long. So there's a lot
1:20:45
Speaker 3: there that I'm not really bullish on. Again, it's it's
1:20:49
Speaker 3: not great up there right now. I don't think.
1:20:52
Speaker 1: South Carolina. South Carolina's biggest fear is that Shamee Beamer
1:21:01
Speaker 1: and Leonora's sellers are way more hype than actual substance.
1:21:08
Speaker 1: Because there were people like, look, look, Leonora's sellers should
1:21:12
Speaker 1: come out in the draft, and I was like, for what,
1:21:14
Speaker 1: For what this is Anthony richardson two point zero and
1:21:19
Speaker 1: until he can like, he holds the ball way too long.
1:21:23
Speaker 1: He doesn't believe in what he's seeing. Yes, they needed
1:21:26
Speaker 1: a whole new offensive coordinator, so he's for me, he
1:21:30
Speaker 1: needs to take a massive jump, or he better come
1:21:33
Speaker 1: back to or he better hop in the transfer portal
1:21:35
Speaker 1: and get to a different school, because I do not
1:21:39
Speaker 1: believe in what is going on there. Shane Beemer is
1:21:43
Speaker 1: too nervous on the sideline. He's always pacing and I'm like, bro,
1:21:48
Speaker 1: you look like something is you're you're scaring.
1:21:52
Speaker 2: Me, and I just don't buy it. I do not
1:21:57
Speaker 2: buy it.
1:21:58
Speaker 3: I think for the nineteenth straight year, their fear is
1:22:01
Speaker 3: offensive line played. Despite the fact that I could go
1:22:03
Speaker 3: for a joke here, let's restart South Carolina fans' biggest
1:22:07
Speaker 3: fear is three on three basketball. You don't get that joke.
1:22:12
Speaker 3: Jacarious Peak, their multi million dollar offensive tackle is not
1:22:17
Speaker 3: going to be available for spring because he sprained his
1:22:19
Speaker 3: knee playing three on three basketball at a team event.
1:22:22
Speaker 3: That's real, that's real talk. That actually happened. Their other tackle,
1:22:27
Speaker 3: Josiah Thompson, will not be available until fall camp. I
1:22:31
Speaker 3: don't know why he's not available. It's a knee thing too.
1:22:33
Speaker 3: So they're high end, blue chip tackles that they're betting
1:22:37
Speaker 3: on their whole entire protection of Leonora sellers On. They
1:22:40
Speaker 3: ain't practicing until August. So there's that. But no, I
1:22:45
Speaker 3: this is his fourth coordinator. You talk about Leonoris like
1:22:48
Speaker 3: he's uber Town. This is a fourth coordinator. We've gone
1:22:51
Speaker 3: through a bunch of them, and last year here's a
1:22:54
Speaker 3: little not to take a shot at Mike Shula, but
1:22:56
Speaker 3: here's a little something something for you head football coaches
1:22:59
Speaker 3: out there. Probably shouldn't hire an offensive coordinator who hasn't
1:23:03
Speaker 3: called play since twenty and sixteen. Probably shouldn't hire an
1:23:07
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator who's never called plays in college football. Probably
1:23:12
Speaker 3: shouldn't hire an offensive coordinator who's best claim to fame
1:23:15
Speaker 3: is I did that one thing with Cam Newton at
1:23:17
Speaker 3: one time. So that was twenty thirteen. It was twenty thirteen.
1:23:21
Speaker 3: So we have Kendall Brile's in the mix. Now he'll
1:23:24
Speaker 3: make it a whole lot more simple. I would imagine,
1:23:28
Speaker 3: for you know, like Kendall did some like really really
1:23:31
Speaker 3: complex things with Josh Hoover the last couple of years
1:23:33
Speaker 3: at TCU, because Josh Hoover could handle that. Kendall wasn't
1:23:37
Speaker 3: doing that with kJ Jefferson at Arkansas. kJ Jefferson in
1:23:40
Speaker 3: Arkansas offense will look a lot like South Carolina offense
1:23:43
Speaker 3: this year, I would imagine.
1:23:46
Speaker 1: All right, next team, the Tennessee Volunteers, Brooks. I believe
1:23:53
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Volunteers should have no fears for this year
1:23:57
Speaker 1: because I believe that they are who they are what
1:23:59
Speaker 1: they head coach Josh Iipel what he requested. He wants
1:24:03
Speaker 1: a twenty four team playoff because he is a twenty
1:24:06
Speaker 1: four team playoff type of type of guy. That's where
1:24:10
Speaker 1: this program is. This is not a top ten type
1:24:13
Speaker 1: of program anymore. That they may be able to slide
1:24:16
Speaker 1: into the college football playoff and one of those last
1:24:19
Speaker 1: spots every now and then. But he wants twenty four
1:24:21
Speaker 1: teams because he understands where he's at right right now.
1:24:24
Speaker 1: So there's no reason to be afraid to Tennessee because
1:24:27
Speaker 1: he knows who you are. You know who you are,
1:24:30
Speaker 1: and you just got to be able to peak every
1:24:32
Speaker 1: now and then.
1:24:33
Speaker 3: So you mentioned that time period where Tennessee was a
1:24:36
Speaker 3: top ten football program. People, and I think volunteer fans
1:24:40
Speaker 3: even forget this. That was when Alabama and Georgia sucked.
1:24:46
Speaker 3: It's really really good to be a top ten football
1:24:48
Speaker 3: program in the SEC. When Alabama Georgia suck, they don't anymore.
1:24:52
Speaker 3: They never will ever again. They will never be really
1:24:54
Speaker 3: really bad ever again. So Tennessee was great in those
1:24:58
Speaker 3: time periods because they could come to Alabama when they
1:25:00
Speaker 3: could take football players, they could come into Georgia, they
1:25:02
Speaker 3: could take the top end football players. They can't do
1:25:03
Speaker 3: that anymore. So. But I am a I'm a Josh
1:25:08
Speaker 3: Hypel guy. I'm a believer in what he does. I'm
1:25:10
Speaker 3: a believer in his football acumen. I'm a believer in
1:25:13
Speaker 3: the adjustments that he makes. Here's my main concern. It
1:25:16
Speaker 3: was what I'm terrified about. It will be a lot
1:25:18
Speaker 3: more tight football games. And this dude is terrible in
1:25:20
Speaker 3: two minutes. This dude is terrible in time. My management
1:25:22
Speaker 3: is dude is terrible, and clock management is terrible game management,
1:25:26
Speaker 3: and that stuff scares the ship out of me. I
1:25:31
Speaker 3: am hey, we all have our faults. We all have
1:25:33
Speaker 3: our faults. I mean, if I have to if I
1:25:38
Speaker 3: have to buy, if I have to buy a wide
1:25:40
Speaker 3: choice football coach, I'm buying Hypel. I ain't buying the
1:25:42
Speaker 3: rest of you guys yet, I will buy him. But no,
1:25:46
Speaker 3: I mean all that, But all those things are a
1:25:48
Speaker 3: byproduct of his system too. Like you're terrible in two
1:25:51
Speaker 3: minutes because like you just I don't know why I
1:25:54
Speaker 3: can't get You're terrible in the red zone because you
1:25:56
Speaker 3: can't run the ball in the red zone because you're
1:25:57
Speaker 3: a wide choice offense. So like some of his stuff
1:25:59
Speaker 3: makes sense, but not I'm worried about whether or not
1:26:04
Speaker 3: George McIntyre's will turnover Frenzy and whether or not Faison
1:26:07
Speaker 3: Brandon's elite. I think on Brandon is going to be really,
1:26:11
Speaker 3: really good, just a true freshman. No, and there's not
1:26:15
Speaker 3: many of those that are. But I think they had
1:26:18
Speaker 3: a fortuitous loss in the court systems. To be honest
1:26:21
Speaker 3: with you, I think the worst thing that could have
1:26:23
Speaker 3: happened for them is being eight and four. Joey Aguilar
1:26:25
Speaker 3: led football team this year, and we go another year
1:26:27
Speaker 3: without knowing whether or not George McIntyre is what we
1:26:30
Speaker 3: thought he was coming out of high school. Like they
1:26:33
Speaker 3: not to get too deep on Tennessee and we got
1:26:34
Speaker 3: we we go way too long with these things. By
1:26:36
Speaker 3: the way, that's me and you, that's us. That's that's
1:26:38
Speaker 3: what it's gonna be. It's what's gonna be. Uh. They
1:26:43
Speaker 3: spent way they identify quarterbacks way earlier than everybody else
1:26:48
Speaker 3: on the high school trail. They had George McIntyre committed
1:26:50
Speaker 3: going into his junior summer. They had Faison Brandon committed
1:26:54
Speaker 3: going into his junior summer. Why aren't y'all playing those guys.
1:26:57
Speaker 3: Why aren't y'all rushing to play those guys? You committed
1:27:00
Speaker 3: to them early. Let's find out if they're good. That'd
1:27:02
Speaker 3: be my I'm a hopeful if I'm a Tennessee fan
1:27:05
Speaker 3: that George McIntyre is a guy, and we're gonna find
1:27:07
Speaker 3: out if we're seven and five this shound and give
1:27:08
Speaker 3: a shit if he's good, because I know next year
1:27:10
Speaker 3: we have a window.
1:27:12
Speaker 1: That's fair, all right, Texas A and M Brooks. What
1:27:16
Speaker 1: are the Aggie's biggest fear going into this twenty twenty
1:27:20
Speaker 1: six season?
1:27:22
Speaker 3: In house promotion? It never works. It normally doesn't. When
1:27:27
Speaker 3: we lose a good offensive coordinator, and say what you
1:27:29
Speaker 3: want about Colin Klein is a good offensive coordinator. When
1:27:31
Speaker 3: we lose him to a head coaching job and we
1:27:34
Speaker 3: promote in house, it normally doesn't work out tremendously. Now
1:27:39
Speaker 3: Oregon's going through this. They just promoted in house. I
1:27:42
Speaker 3: think offense and defensive coordinator. Normally we have to go
1:27:45
Speaker 3: out Hampton. Yeah, normally we have to go out and
1:27:48
Speaker 3: hire somebody's That's my history of this conference in particularly like,
1:27:53
Speaker 3: for example, Georgia lost because I think Jim Cheney after
1:27:58
Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen years and they're like, or tails eighteen
1:28:01
Speaker 3: year and they're like, oh, well, we got James Kolee
1:28:02
Speaker 3: in house, will just promote him and work out too
1:28:06
Speaker 3: good promotional Like last year. I know I defended Joe Sloan,
1:28:12
Speaker 3: but letting dim Brock walk out of LSU to go
1:28:16
Speaker 3: to Notre Dame and then just promoting Joe Sloan didn't
1:28:19
Speaker 3: work out at LSU. So promoting the wide receivers coach
1:28:22
Speaker 3: offense Cornet always scares me. That would be my biggest
1:28:24
Speaker 3: fear that we're not good enough offensively because we lost
1:28:28
Speaker 3: a ton defensively. They're gonna have to score more points
1:28:30
Speaker 3: at A and M this year. They're not going to
1:28:32
Speaker 3: be as good defensively, and they had weird outlier performances
1:28:36
Speaker 3: defensively last year where it's like, why are you giving
1:28:38
Speaker 3: up forty one points on the road to Notre Dame?
1:28:40
Speaker 3: What's going on? What is going on?
1:28:42
Speaker 2: What are we doing exactly?
1:28:44
Speaker 1: I believe that text A and M's biggest fear this year,
1:28:48
Speaker 1: it's clear, is that last year's schedule and haveing to
1:28:52
Speaker 1: only play one team in the SEC that finished in
1:28:55
Speaker 1: the top eight, that this has distorted the view that
1:29:00
Speaker 1: you thought that there were people on the Oh my god,
1:29:03
Speaker 1: let's look at all the metrics, and you got the
1:29:07
Speaker 1: TV announcers the metrics say that Texas A and M
1:29:10
Speaker 1: is the best team. I was like, what metrics are
1:29:12
Speaker 1: you talking about? You got the number one defense in Columbus,
1:29:16
Speaker 1: you got the number one offense somewhere else, and you're
1:29:19
Speaker 1: telling telling me that text A and M the best team.
1:29:21
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the schedule, I'm like, where are the
1:29:24
Speaker 1: ranked team? Where the good teams that you beat outside.
1:29:27
Speaker 2: Of No Dame.
1:29:29
Speaker 3: I feel really bad for the sorry sack that draws
1:29:32
Speaker 3: a short stick in them ESPN meeting rooms pre show
1:29:35
Speaker 3: planning moons. They're like, hey, booger, you gotta argue for
1:29:38
Speaker 3: A and M today, And he's like, damn it, all right,
1:29:42
Speaker 3: lose an argument. Let's go try to throw something at
1:29:44
Speaker 3: the wall. Hope is sticks. That's how that happens. By
1:29:47
Speaker 3: the way, that's how it happened. We got something. We
1:29:49
Speaker 3: got some pre show planning meeting where everybody's like, hey,
1:29:51
Speaker 3: who's the number one team? I was like, Ohio State
1:29:53
Speaker 3: And they're like, okay, well that's boring ass television. You
1:29:56
Speaker 3: have to pick this team. And that's how that goes.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: So all right, Someboddy, give me somebody else besides these
1:30:02
Speaker 1: three teams. Take Texas Lies, the Texas Longhorns, Brooks. I
1:30:14
Speaker 1: look at this team and I believe that their biggest
1:30:19
Speaker 1: fear this year in Texas, deep down in their soul,
1:30:23
Speaker 1: that they're They're like, what if arch is just okay?
1:30:28
Speaker 1: What if he's just a good quarterback? Because last year,
1:30:31
Speaker 1: Paul five momb and everybody else except this guy right here, was,
1:30:36
Speaker 1: oh my, Arch Manning is the best. He's gonna win
1:30:39
Speaker 1: the Heisman, He's gonna he should come out even the
1:30:42
Speaker 1: best number one pick them all time. And I was like,
1:30:45
Speaker 1: are we sure about that? Because like he started three
1:30:47
Speaker 1: games and two of them were okay and one of
1:30:50
Speaker 1: them was not good, and they were like, no, but
1:30:53
Speaker 1: believe it. And now this year, same thing, arch Manning.
1:30:56
Speaker 2: Believe it.
1:30:57
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I if he's just really good or
1:31:03
Speaker 1: just pretty good, and Sarki's just a very good coach,
1:31:07
Speaker 1: and maybe he needs to give up offensive play calling
1:31:10
Speaker 1: because we've never had an offensive we've never had a
1:31:13
Speaker 1: play caller win a national championship.
1:31:20
Speaker 3: All all relatively valid, he said. I will say this.
1:31:23
Speaker 3: I was called some crackpot conspiracy theorists last year for
1:31:26
Speaker 3: pointing out that Arch Manning might be hurt. Come to
1:31:28
Speaker 3: find out, he played the entire year with some type
1:31:31
Speaker 3: of ligament issue in his foot at offseason foot surgery.
1:31:35
Speaker 3: Apparently got hurt in twenty twenty four against Texas A
1:31:38
Speaker 3: and M, their last regular season game. For some reason,
1:31:41
Speaker 3: thought it was gonna be fine, went through the offseason
1:31:43
Speaker 3: last year. This is all reported by Cooper. Manning, by
1:31:45
Speaker 3: the way, went through the offseason, thought it was gonna
1:31:48
Speaker 3: be okay, went through rehab process, it never got any better.
1:31:51
Speaker 3: He dealt with it all year last year, and based
1:31:54
Speaker 3: off what I looked at, it had to be his
1:31:56
Speaker 3: right foot. I mean, every single time he's driving, he's
1:31:59
Speaker 3: collapsing onto his left side and just absolutely his mechanics
1:32:03
Speaker 3: were dog crap last year. I think that's a lot
1:32:05
Speaker 3: why the performance was up and down. I love his
1:32:09
Speaker 3: competitive integrity. I think he's tough as nails. I compared
1:32:13
Speaker 3: to this way, it would be like watching the nepotistic
1:32:15
Speaker 3: hire at a construction company be the hardest grunt worker.
1:32:18
Speaker 3: That's what it's like watching him play football, Because I
1:32:21
Speaker 3: mean they were killing him last year. They were absolutely
1:32:24
Speaker 3: unable to protect him at all. My biggest concern looking
1:32:27
Speaker 3: at Texas's rosters general depth. They have great top end talent, yes,
1:32:32
Speaker 3: and then you look at those starters and you're like,
1:32:35
Speaker 3: my god, But if they have two or three injuries,
1:32:38
Speaker 3: you look at their two and three depths. Those are
1:32:40
Speaker 3: a bunch of talent to high school football players who've
1:32:42
Speaker 3: never played ball, never played big time college football. So
1:32:46
Speaker 3: there is a big gap and drop off between I'm
1:32:49
Speaker 3: not talking about talent, I'm talking about just general experience
1:32:52
Speaker 3: and being ready to play. That would be my main
1:32:55
Speaker 3: concern because they spend a lot of money on bringing
1:32:57
Speaker 3: guys in and they're great. They're great football players, that
1:33:00
Speaker 3: top end of that roster. But we need twos and
1:33:02
Speaker 3: threes to go play seventeen games, Yes you do.
1:33:07
Speaker 1: Now the final team, final SEC team, the Vanderbilt Commodorees Brooks.
1:33:16
Speaker 1: I look at this team and to meet deep down
1:33:18
Speaker 1: in Vanderbilt soul, their fear has to be that last
1:33:24
Speaker 1: year was as good as it gets. That I believe
1:33:29
Speaker 1: that Clark leaves a good football coach, that he inspires
1:33:32
Speaker 1: confidence and everybody he wants to be there. He wants
1:33:35
Speaker 1: to prove he can win at Vanderbilt. They're gonna probably
1:33:40
Speaker 1: be starting a true freshman at quarterback and Jared Curtis
1:33:42
Speaker 1: who flipped from Georgia. But I just I believe that
1:33:47
Speaker 1: deep down that they're scared that last year was.
1:33:51
Speaker 2: That that was the pinnacle.
1:33:54
Speaker 3: So you said probably, and it reminded me of that
1:33:56
Speaker 3: scene in The Water Boy where they ask his girlfriend
1:33:58
Speaker 3: what the score prediction is gonna be and he goes, man,
1:34:01
Speaker 3: that's a pretty good guess, and she looks at him
1:34:03
Speaker 3: goes that, ain't no, guess. That's what it's gonna be.
1:34:07
Speaker 3: Ain't no, ain't no. Probably with Jared Curtis, it's what
1:34:11
Speaker 3: it's gonna be. They paid the man three million dollars.
1:34:14
Speaker 3: It's what it's gonna be. Okay, I'm assuming, I'm assuming
1:34:19
Speaker 3: three million dollars North North, and and guarantee I guaranteed that.
1:34:26
Speaker 3: I bet they guaranteed that due first year playing time,
1:34:29
Speaker 3: because that was the whole flip up. They made that
1:34:32
Speaker 3: man out to be like he was gonna be the
1:34:33
Speaker 3: apostle of Nashville football. So the whole regime is based
1:34:38
Speaker 3: off Curtis. I think he's that talented. I think he's
1:34:41
Speaker 3: that good. I think the difference is like the offensive
1:34:45
Speaker 3: scheme that they ran at Vanderbilt with Pavia was able
1:34:48
Speaker 3: to tilt the talent disadvantage right, the the the option offense,
1:34:53
Speaker 3: the ability to flip guards, the run game dominance, the
1:34:56
Speaker 3: ability to live in third and two's Jared Curtis ain't
1:34:59
Speaker 3: about to take fourteen carries in an option offense, Like,
1:35:02
Speaker 3: what are we talking about? That's not what that's gonna
1:35:04
Speaker 3: look like. So he's gonna need more parts around him,
1:35:08
Speaker 3: I think than they than they needed last year. Despite
1:35:10
Speaker 3: the fact that he's far more talented than Diego Pavia.
1:35:14
Speaker 3: His style of play requires actual talents around him. You
1:35:17
Speaker 3: got to be able to protect a quarterback who could
1:35:19
Speaker 3: throw from the pocket. You got to be able to
1:35:21
Speaker 3: have weapons for quarterbacks who need to throw the football.
1:35:24
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying Like that, that would be
1:35:26
Speaker 3: my main concern there is our style of play does
1:35:29
Speaker 3: not lead for oh we've got good talent. We don't
1:35:33
Speaker 3: have great talent. No, we need some great players with
1:35:35
Speaker 3: a great quarterback too.
1:35:38
Speaker 1: And you guys, that is the sec everybody's biggest fears
1:35:43
Speaker 1: go down into comments. Tell us what you what you think?
1:35:46
Speaker 1: And uh, who is who does have the biggest fear
1:35:49
Speaker 1: of the worst fear Brooks.
1:35:50
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on man.
1:35:52
Speaker 3: No doubt, George.
1:35:55
Speaker 1: Oh it is Ralph Amsden timing. We got something fun
1:35:58
Speaker 1: for y'all today. It is QB Tier time in college football.
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Speaker 1: So we got to rank the players in all of
1:36:06
Speaker 1: the tiers of college football. We are going to rank
1:36:10
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks and tell you where they fit. But
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Speaker 2: Because that's fun, right all right.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's get to these QB tiers, Ralph. Now, we
1:36:49
Speaker 1: decided that we were going to put the tiers into
1:36:53
Speaker 1: different levels, and the first tier.
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Speaker 2: That we have is the Heisman Slash.
1:37:00
Speaker 1: That's the elite tier, Like these are the guys that
1:37:03
Speaker 1: we believe that can not only win the Heisman Trophy,
1:37:05
Speaker 1: but are also National Championship caliber quarterbacks. Then we got
1:37:11
Speaker 1: the next tier, which is the championship tier. The championship
1:37:17
Speaker 1: caliber tier. Now this is part player and part roster
1:37:21
Speaker 1: slash situation, so that's what that tier is. Then there
1:37:26
Speaker 1: is the NFL Draft Darling. These are the guys that
1:37:29
Speaker 1: we believe are obviously good college quarterbacks, but when it
1:37:32
Speaker 1: comes draft time that yes, they may not be able
1:37:35
Speaker 1: to compete for a championship, but oh my god, the
1:37:39
Speaker 1: NFL scouts and everybody they will be fawning over these
1:37:42
Speaker 1: guys or they will just be good NFL quarterbacks. The
1:37:47
Speaker 1: next tier that we have is the future face of
1:37:50
Speaker 1: college football. These are the guys who are not draft
1:37:53
Speaker 1: eligible or won't be going out in the draft next year,
1:37:56
Speaker 1: but we believe that these will be the guys that
1:37:58
Speaker 1: we will be talking about in these tiers for next season.
1:38:03
Speaker 1: And then we have the unfortunate portal bound tier. These
1:38:08
Speaker 1: are the guys who, for whatever reason, it's not working
1:38:12
Speaker 1: out right now and they may end up in the
1:38:14
Speaker 1: transfer portal in the future, or hey, it could be positive.
1:38:18
Speaker 1: They could end up in the transfer portal as a
1:38:21
Speaker 1: big step up.
1:38:23
Speaker 2: It could be fortunate with a capital fortune, Yes, exactly.
1:38:28
Speaker 1: And then there's another category where hype hype pipe. Oh,
1:38:33
Speaker 1: there's so much hypes surrounding these guys and they're great
1:38:37
Speaker 1: college quarterbacks but can't win a national championship and they're
1:38:41
Speaker 1: probably not going to be NFL draft darlings anyway, but
1:38:44
Speaker 1: we love them and they are going to be legends
1:38:47
Speaker 1: where they are. And then we have the Tyra Banks
1:38:52
Speaker 1: Brian Brohm category. Ralph, you tell the people what that
1:38:55
Speaker 1: category is about.
1:38:58
Speaker 2: So on the Tyra Banks sand is people we're all
1:39:00
Speaker 2: rooting for, but there's a possibility they're gonna let us down,
1:39:04
Speaker 2: are you? And hey? And thirty years later we might
1:39:09
Speaker 2: get a documentary about it finding out that maybe we
1:39:11
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been.
1:39:13
Speaker 1: So we're the problem, yo, that America's next Top Model
1:39:19
Speaker 1: documentary on Netflix.
1:39:20
Speaker 2: You're be sitting there like, ooh, I.
1:39:24
Speaker 1: Felt like Miss Jay and did you do the Miss
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Speaker 1: j Yes?
1:39:31
Speaker 2: Kids don't even know where that meme came from. That's
1:39:33
Speaker 2: so funny. Yeah, we're a cultured podcast, everybody.
1:39:38
Speaker 3: Uh.
1:39:39
Speaker 2: The other side is the Brian brom side. And if
1:39:41
Speaker 2: you remember Brian Brohm, brother of Jeff Brom currently on
1:39:44
Speaker 2: the staff, at Louisville. He was projected to be a
1:39:47
Speaker 2: top ten pick and I believe the two thousand and
1:39:50
Speaker 2: seven NFL draft and he said, you know what, I'm
1:39:53
Speaker 2: going back to school. And that ended with him being
1:39:57
Speaker 2: the fifty sixth overall pick in the next NFL draft
1:40:00
Speaker 2: and never having the capital to be invested in as
1:40:03
Speaker 2: anyone's franchise quarterback. He went from a sure fire top
1:40:07
Speaker 2: ten pick to never making an impact in the NFL
1:40:09
Speaker 2: at all. And so basically what we're saying is you
1:40:13
Speaker 2: might should have gotten out when the getting was good,
1:40:16
Speaker 2: like this would be a quarterback that maybe would have
1:40:18
Speaker 2: been better served to chase draft dreams instead of running
1:40:24
Speaker 2: it back. Which there's a lot of money now. And
1:40:26
Speaker 2: you actually advise people, George, if you can get more
1:40:29
Speaker 2: money in college, stay in college because there are no guarantees.
1:40:31
Speaker 2: But for some people, if you could have got that
1:40:33
Speaker 2: first round money, maybe you should have chased the first round.
1:40:35
Speaker 1: With Anthony richardson, perfect guy, get out before they figure
1:40:40
Speaker 1: out that you can't play, buddy. So we have a
1:40:45
Speaker 1: list of quarterbacks. Oh, and then the last category is
1:40:49
Speaker 1: the track stars. These are the guys who are much
1:40:52
Speaker 1: more runners than they are passers and in going through
1:40:58
Speaker 1: this list when so later on we're gonna release our
1:41:02
Speaker 1: rankings of quarterbacks, like number from one to thirty basically
1:41:07
Speaker 1: thirty two, and Ralph figured something out. He was just like, George,
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Speaker 1: I think you like that guys who are passers better
1:41:16
Speaker 1: better than runners?
1:41:16
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's what the position does, right,
1:41:20
Speaker 2: that's what.
1:41:21
Speaker 1: You're supposed to do it quarterback throw the football. So yes,
1:41:26
Speaker 1: I like my quarterbacks to throw the football. So how
1:41:29
Speaker 1: this is gonna work? Ralph is going to throw me
1:41:33
Speaker 1: out quarterbacks? Ralph, you don't have to go in order,
1:41:35
Speaker 1: you can. You can throw them where you will, and
1:41:38
Speaker 1: then I will tell you the tier that they belong in.
1:41:43
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's start close to home. Let's go
1:41:47
Speaker 2: with Nico Iamliava, because I don't want to stumble over
1:41:51
Speaker 2: that name later. Let's go with UCLA's quarterback, former Tennessee quarterback,
1:41:56
Speaker 2: former five star recruit, one of the first college football millionaires.
1:42:01
Speaker 2: What tier do you believe Nico belongs in?
1:42:04
Speaker 1: Oh, Nico im Lava belongs in the NFL Draft Darling tier.
1:42:10
Speaker 1: And people have forgotten that this kid was actually a
1:42:15
Speaker 1: highly sought after recruit. People aren't mentioning they're not talking
1:42:19
Speaker 1: about him as one of the top It was like
1:42:21
Speaker 1: he ran out of eligibility and they forget that at times,
1:42:26
Speaker 1: he looked really good last year.
1:42:29
Speaker 2: Now he's got a.
1:42:30
Speaker 1: Better situation at UCLA. The head coaches changed their stability there.
1:42:36
Speaker 1: So I'm excited about Nico and I believe by this
1:42:40
Speaker 1: time next year he will be an NFL draft darling.
1:42:44
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him jump at the combine.
1:42:48
Speaker 2: I want, I do want to see the I want
1:42:50
Speaker 2: to see the volleyball skills in action.
1:42:51
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, because he can jump out the
1:42:53
Speaker 1: gym any sixty six.
1:42:56
Speaker 2: Let's stay in LA. Let's go with another Polynesian, another
1:43:00
Speaker 2: big boy, Jade and Mayava at usc.
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Speaker 1: So, I stumbled over this kid for a while because
1:43:09
Speaker 1: the stats are there, the numbers aren't there. Sometimes I
1:43:12
Speaker 1: feel like throws are predetermined. But I believe that he's
1:43:16
Speaker 1: gonna put up good stats again. If he takes any
1:43:19
Speaker 1: bit of another leap, he'll be another in the line
1:43:22
Speaker 1: of Lincoln Riley quarterbacks that goes to the NFL. May
1:43:25
Speaker 1: not be a first rounder, but I believe that he
1:43:27
Speaker 1: will be one of those NFL draft picks and NFL
1:43:30
Speaker 1: Draft darlings.
1:43:33
Speaker 2: I feel like Lincoln Riley is one of those guys who, like,
1:43:35
Speaker 2: you know, you got the parents who drop their kids
1:43:39
Speaker 2: off in kindergarten and then like the kid hugs their
1:43:42
Speaker 2: leg and then they don't leave and then they end
1:43:44
Speaker 2: up taking them home on that day. You know, I
1:43:48
Speaker 2: feel like Lincoln Riley's one of those parents that kicks
1:43:50
Speaker 2: the kid out the car while it's still movie and
1:43:54
Speaker 2: they roll in the day and there is a vine. Yeah,
1:43:57
Speaker 2: there is no opportunity to hug the leg. Like you
1:44:00
Speaker 2: just got to figure it out, and maybe it takes
1:44:01
Speaker 2: you a minute, and maybe it takes you a few years.
1:44:04
Speaker 2: But you look at all these guys that played for
1:44:05
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley, at some point they do end up being
1:44:08
Speaker 2: impact guys in the NFL. They just don't always go
1:44:11
Speaker 2: in knowing what they're doing.
1:44:13
Speaker 1: They don't go in ready exactly it'll it'll work at
1:44:17
Speaker 1: some point in time. It just may not work work early.
1:44:20
Speaker 1: So be basent people.
1:44:24
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's go to some of our big
1:44:27
Speaker 2: money names. Uh, let's talk about somebody that we were
1:44:30
Speaker 2: really excited about, George before the season, and it felt
1:44:34
Speaker 2: like maybe we were the only people that were excited
1:44:36
Speaker 2: about him, and now that everybody's excited about him, maybe
1:44:39
Speaker 2: we've got some buyer's remorse. Brendan Soresby, former Cincinnati quarterback
1:44:43
Speaker 2: who is now making six million minus whatever the courts
1:44:47
Speaker 2: take away at Texas Tech.
1:44:50
Speaker 1: Wow, I guess we are staying in that NFL Draft
1:44:54
Speaker 1: Darling category because I do not believe that Texas Tech
1:44:59
Speaker 1: is going to be and national championship caliber team this year.
1:45:05
Speaker 1: I do believe that Brendan Sowarsby is a significant Kent
1:45:09
Speaker 1: upgrade at quarterback, but they're losing a lot with Lee
1:45:14
Speaker 1: Hunter and David Bailey and the other d lineman as well.
1:45:21
Speaker 1: Heart is gonna be hard to replace that. It would
1:45:23
Speaker 1: be hard to replace the linebackers as well. I believe
1:45:27
Speaker 1: that Techtech will be good, but I don't believe that
1:45:30
Speaker 1: they're gonna run through everybody like they did last year,
1:45:33
Speaker 1: and so therefore he can't be in the championship caliber territory,
1:45:38
Speaker 1: even though he may be a championship caliber quarterback.
1:45:43
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about somebody who you actually got
1:45:47
Speaker 2: a lot of backlash talking about this year. And I've
1:45:50
Speaker 2: struggled to find the reason for the backlash. But let's
1:45:54
Speaker 2: go with Ohio States, Julian saying, who again, I think
1:45:58
Speaker 2: you've only ever said positive things about you just didn't
1:46:02
Speaker 2: vote for him for these.
1:46:05
Speaker 1: Okay, he's in the championship caliber.
1:46:11
Speaker 2: Bracket.
1:46:11
Speaker 1: That's where he is. That's the tier that he belongs in,
1:46:14
Speaker 1: Championship caliber because of his roster. And I will say
1:46:18
Speaker 1: it again, Julian, Sam, He's not going to wow you
1:46:21
Speaker 1: with his arm. He's not gonna wow you with his athleticism,
1:46:23
Speaker 1: but he wows you with his decision making and his accuracy.
1:46:28
Speaker 1: He plays the position the way it's supposed to be,
1:46:31
Speaker 1: and he's going to be an NFL player. I mean,
1:46:33
Speaker 1: I don't know where that amongst Ohio State fans has
1:46:37
Speaker 1: turned into eight, but he's a championship caliber quarterback with
1:46:41
Speaker 1: this roster.
1:46:44
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll find a way to be upset at
1:46:46
Speaker 2: what you just said. Let's talk about somebody who tore
1:46:52
Speaker 2: it up in a conference that used to be near
1:46:54
Speaker 2: and dear to our heart and has since transferred to
1:46:57
Speaker 2: the SEC, had an up and down first year, but
1:47:00
Speaker 2: led a team to the College Football Playoff. Mister John mattiir.
1:47:07
Speaker 1: Tyra Banks category, we were all Rotank fark Yo him
1:47:12
Speaker 1: and are Buckle together have not been have not amounted
1:47:15
Speaker 1: to what you would have thought his his stroke is
1:47:20
Speaker 1: you know, it ain't as his throwing motion for all
1:47:24
Speaker 1: you pause, for all you people out there, it's not
1:47:28
Speaker 1: as clean as you would like, which leads to inaccuracy issues.
1:47:32
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's gonna be some magical jump
1:47:35
Speaker 1: this year. We all were rooting for you. Oh, but
1:47:39
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the difference between Oklahoma and making the
1:47:41
Speaker 1: playoff and not. But this is not a championship caliber
1:47:45
Speaker 1: team with the White House and everything.
1:47:47
Speaker 2: So yet, no, can we at least admit that like
1:47:50
Speaker 2: he had the worst wide receiver room of any good
1:47:54
Speaker 2: team last year. Yes, yes, yes, fair, that's fair. But
1:47:59
Speaker 2: he did make do with Washington State, so you know,
1:48:01
Speaker 2: excuses excuses. I'm I root for him, though still rooting.
1:48:06
Speaker 2: I'm still rooting for you. Let's go with my guy.
1:48:11
Speaker 2: The man who actually took down my former high school
1:48:15
Speaker 2: in the Arizona Open Division High School championship back in
1:48:20
Speaker 2: the day. Made his name at the University of New Mexico,
1:48:24
Speaker 2: has thirty three career rushing touchdowns and is going into
1:48:28
Speaker 2: his senior season at University of Utah. Mister Devin Dampier.
1:48:33
Speaker 2: He's a runner. He's a track star, dude.
1:48:38
Speaker 1: He's a solid system college quarterback. Doesn't throw the ball
1:48:44
Speaker 1: at a very high level, but he's a playmaker. So
1:48:50
Speaker 1: this while I put him in the track star category.
1:48:53
Speaker 1: He can hurt you, but when it comes down to it,
1:48:56
Speaker 1: this is not the old days. You can't win a
1:48:58
Speaker 1: national championship like that. And he'll get Utah a lot
1:49:02
Speaker 1: of wins, but it won't be enough.
1:49:07
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, I'm I'm ignoring all of the Arizona high
1:49:12
Speaker 2: school football quarterbacks. Lander, but yeah, he is. That is
1:49:16
Speaker 2: a running back, that is a that is an NFL
1:49:20
Speaker 2: running I'm not I'm not trying to say like if
1:49:24
Speaker 2: he was just a running back, that's an NFL draft pick.
1:49:27
Speaker 2: Correct touchdowns.
1:49:30
Speaker 1: Yeah he will be like he's Diego Papa, but a
1:49:35
Speaker 1: better athlete, except quite as good as a passer. But
1:49:40
Speaker 1: but neither one of them is that great at it.
1:49:44
Speaker 2: Let's go with Maryland's own Malik Washington.
1:49:50
Speaker 1: Ooh, future face of college football. This this I believe
1:49:55
Speaker 1: the future is bright. May not be at Maryland, but
1:49:58
Speaker 1: it's bright though, So.
1:50:01
Speaker 2: You wouldn't put him in that portal category.
1:50:04
Speaker 1: Yes, I would, but I think he's a future face
1:50:07
Speaker 1: and that feels a little more positive.
1:50:10
Speaker 2: They got money now too, Maryland got a little money now,
1:50:12
Speaker 2: yet I got away. I'm be able to hang on
1:50:14
Speaker 2: to him. Yeah, that's true. He got a good oc
1:50:16
Speaker 2: added his way from Jacksonville State as well, so we'll
1:50:21
Speaker 2: see how he does. How about the man whose fate
1:50:26
Speaker 2: is currently still up to the courts, as the NCAA
1:50:29
Speaker 2: has filed a six hundred page motion to get his
1:50:34
Speaker 2: ass up out of college football, Mister Division two national
1:50:37
Speaker 2: champion Trinidad Chambliss.
1:50:41
Speaker 1: Ye, hype, hype, great college quarterback. He will be a
1:50:46
Speaker 1: Old Miss legend. I hope he gets his next year back.
1:50:50
Speaker 1: But and yes, he's a playmaker, but he can throw
1:50:54
Speaker 1: the ball better, so he didn't deserve to be in
1:50:57
Speaker 1: the track star category. Ole Miss is not a championship
1:51:00
Speaker 1: caliber roster this year, so he can't be in the
1:51:04
Speaker 1: championship caliber. So yes, he's a he's a great college
1:51:09
Speaker 1: quarterback tier guy.
1:51:12
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of a great college quarterback who might be
1:51:15
Speaker 2: on a bad might be on a bad roster. We'll see.
1:51:19
Speaker 2: We'll see how quickly things turn around. What about mister
1:51:22
Speaker 2: Drew Mestimaker, who just followed his coach from North Texas
1:51:26
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State.
1:51:28
Speaker 1: Oh, he is a future golden boy. Bro, he is
1:51:30
Speaker 1: a future golden boy. If he can will future face
1:51:35
Speaker 1: of college football, future golden boy, like somebody at they
1:51:38
Speaker 1: point to and say, oh, he's the future. Now, mind you,
1:51:43
Speaker 1: when he played two ranked teams last year and they
1:51:47
Speaker 1: were a group of six teams, they were two lane,
1:51:49
Speaker 1: and he played one other team in the US, Yeah,
1:51:53
Speaker 1: and they were both ranked. He had two bad games.
1:51:56
Speaker 1: So I need him to play like the competition's gonna
1:52:00
Speaker 1: be better overall because they're playing in the Big twelve.
1:52:03
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, so if he can just put together
1:52:06
Speaker 1: what he did last year against this better competition, Oh,
1:52:10
Speaker 1: he's gonna be projected as a number one draft pick
1:52:14
Speaker 1: in two years.
1:52:18
Speaker 2: Somebody who was projected as a as a possible high
1:52:21
Speaker 2: draft pick after this season. Uh, and is now as
1:52:26
Speaker 2: people wondering, uh if they'll get drafted at all. Mister
1:52:31
Speaker 2: Avery Johnson out of Kansas State.
1:52:34
Speaker 1: Abra Ray Johnson, he's a runner.
1:52:38
Speaker 2: Are you trying to do Avery Johnson accent?
1:52:42
Speaker 1: Yes, Abra Ray Johnson. I gotta put Avery Johnson in
1:52:47
Speaker 1: the track star categ category. He is electric with his feet, but.
1:52:52
Speaker 5: I I still believe, like I'm still a believer in Avery,
1:52:59
Speaker 5: Like I believe that he can be a good enough
1:53:02
Speaker 5: passer to where he changes the way everybody looks at him.
1:53:07
Speaker 1: It is going to take a huge leap this year.
1:53:11
Speaker 1: He's got climbing now, right yeah.
1:53:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, who he had his sophomore season.
1:53:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, so I believe that that's going to be
1:53:20
Speaker 1: a significant change for him. But he's stuck in the
1:53:24
Speaker 1: track star category until, you know, until proven otherwise, right now.
1:53:29
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think one of the worst things that can
1:53:31
Speaker 2: happen to a college football quarterback is you get that
1:53:36
Speaker 2: draft evaluation and they're like, hey, so what we really
1:53:41
Speaker 2: like to see from you is like, can you hang
1:53:43
Speaker 2: in the pocket?
1:53:44
Speaker 3: Yes?
1:53:44
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I don't know for fact that
1:53:48
Speaker 2: that's what happened to Avery Johnson this last year, but
1:53:50
Speaker 2: I do know I watched enough of the Big Twelve
1:53:52
Speaker 2: where yeah, he wouldn't run, he would not and he
1:53:56
Speaker 2: is elite at it, and he's not using the back
1:53:59
Speaker 2: and it reminded me of Caleb Williams final year at
1:54:01
Speaker 2: USC where he wouldn't take off running even though he's
1:54:04
Speaker 2: the best athlete on the field.
1:54:06
Speaker 1: Oh see, it reminded me of Khalil Tate Ams then.
1:54:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, but instead of not running, all Khalil Tate would
1:54:16
Speaker 2: do is walk over the sideline. Let Grant Canell play.
1:54:21
Speaker 1: And so for the people who have been with us
1:54:23
Speaker 1: as packed twelve apostles, you will enjoy that reference.
1:54:28
Speaker 2: I was a fan of I do like it when
1:54:31
Speaker 2: the runners run. I think you should play to your strength.
1:54:34
Speaker 2: I thought Bryce Perkins here at Virginia was one of
1:54:36
Speaker 2: the most beautiful things I've ever seen, because yeah, do
1:54:38
Speaker 2: whatever it takes to win. You're a college football player. Now,
1:54:40
Speaker 2: will worry about the NFL later. Thanks ps, Bryce Perkins
1:54:45
Speaker 2: super Bowl ring. He was the third string quarterback on
1:54:48
Speaker 2: the Rams shut out to Matt Stafford, but he did
1:54:51
Speaker 2: get a ring, all right. So let's move on to
1:54:55
Speaker 2: the man who rocked the college football world right after
1:54:57
Speaker 2: the end of the season, left Duke for Miami. Mister
1:55:01
Speaker 2: Darien mensa.
1:55:04
Speaker 1: NFL draft Darling, oh man, I consider it the championship caliber,
1:55:10
Speaker 1: but I just I know at Miami is going to
1:55:14
Speaker 1: be better in a lot of spots. Their defensive line
1:55:17
Speaker 1: will not be better, even though that they are very
1:55:20
Speaker 1: talented there. There's no way that you're gonna be able
1:55:22
Speaker 1: to reproduce what you got out of Mesador and Baine,
1:55:28
Speaker 1: you know, immediately, maybe.
1:55:30
Speaker 2: In two years.
1:55:31
Speaker 1: But and even though they're good players there, that's a
1:55:36
Speaker 1: lot of veteran and old guy production to get out
1:55:39
Speaker 1: of like sophomores. So so yeah, so I'm and people
1:55:44
Speaker 1: are like, well, they were in the National Chimp. Yes, there,
1:55:47
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they were the second best team.
1:55:49
Speaker 1: Even though that they were really good. They got in barely.
1:55:54
Speaker 1: And they're still the team that lost to SMU and
1:56:00
Speaker 1: you and Louisville last year. So if they repeat that,
1:56:03
Speaker 1: you might not get in the playoffs. So there it is,
1:56:08
Speaker 1: I mean, you might.
1:56:08
Speaker 2: You This might be the one that you and I
1:56:10
Speaker 2: disagree on a little bit. Uh. Cam Ward was the
1:56:13
Speaker 2: number one overall pick with a number one wide receiver
1:56:16
Speaker 2: who ran a four eight five, so Darien mensa in
1:56:20
Speaker 2: that offense, he might if if they win, if they win,
1:56:23
Speaker 2: he might be Uh he might be triple cranworthy. We'll
1:56:26
Speaker 2: find out next up.
1:56:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because if so, he could actually be in
1:56:30
Speaker 1: that elite Heisman category, like Heisman National Championship category.
1:56:37
Speaker 2: All right, next up, I'm not even gonna say this
1:56:38
Speaker 2: quarterback's name. I'm just gonna sing the commercial jingle like
1:56:42
Speaker 2: a rock. Oh lack a rock. You don't remember that
1:56:50
Speaker 2: little pickup truck commercial? All right, all right, gun are
1:56:56
Speaker 2: you gonna pretend you're gon leave me out here in island?
1:56:58
Speaker 2: Mister Gunner Stockton, Oh, the old reliable Chevy Silverado.
1:57:04
Speaker 1: Yes of quarterbacks, Yes, dude, he is built for it, tough.
1:57:08
Speaker 1: He's like one of them old school metal ones. I
1:57:12
Speaker 1: am going to put Gunner Stockton in the championship caliber.
1:57:17
Speaker 1: And this is strictly because of the team he's on.
1:57:20
Speaker 1: If he were on a different team, this would not
1:57:22
Speaker 1: be championship caliber. I would probably put him in the
1:57:28
Speaker 1: if he were on a different team, probably a hype
1:57:30
Speaker 1: pipe category. Great college quarterback, Oh yeah.
1:57:35
Speaker 2: Or he trackstar too run a little bit, definitely could
1:57:39
Speaker 2: be a He's for sure the guy I might want
1:57:42
Speaker 2: to go to battle with. Though. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:57:45
Speaker 1: He's the guy who shoots all the bullets and then
1:57:48
Speaker 1: throws the gun at you.
1:57:50
Speaker 2: I do worry. He had a bunch of wide receivers
1:57:51
Speaker 2: that ended upt the combine that actually didn't do that much.
1:57:53
Speaker 2: Their last couple of years of playing with him. But
1:57:56
Speaker 2: but he doesn't make mistakes and I love that. And
1:57:58
Speaker 2: he's tough.
1:57:59
Speaker 3: Uh.
1:58:00
Speaker 2: How about the tallest man on the planet, taller than
1:58:06
Speaker 2: some of the other six six guys on here.
1:58:08
Speaker 1: CJ.
1:58:09
Speaker 2: Bailey, North Carolina State's own.
1:58:11
Speaker 1: Future future face of college football. I don't know if
1:58:15
Speaker 1: it'll be at nc State after this year, but he did.
1:58:19
Speaker 1: The kid is good.
1:58:19
Speaker 2: I'm excited about him. How cool is it to see
1:58:23
Speaker 2: him play well when away from Jeremiah Smith because you
1:58:28
Speaker 2: kind of feel like maybe people thought, oh, you had
1:58:32
Speaker 2: the number one player in the country at receiver. Yeah,
1:58:34
Speaker 2: so of course you looked good.
1:58:36
Speaker 1: Nah, I was actually good.
1:58:40
Speaker 2: He tallest hell though. All right, So let's go with
1:58:46
Speaker 2: the man who brings all the page views himself. Probably
1:58:50
Speaker 2: should have led off with this name for the algorithm's sake,
1:58:53
Speaker 2: mister arch Manning.
1:58:55
Speaker 1: Arch Manning. Arch Manning goes in the NFL Draft Darling category.
1:59:05
Speaker 1: Oh they love him, Oh they love talking about arch Manning.
1:59:09
Speaker 1: I don't believe Texas is a championship team, so he
1:59:12
Speaker 1: can't go into championship caliber. And if he's not championship caliber,
1:59:16
Speaker 1: he's not gonna win the Heisman Trophy. So he'll just
1:59:18
Speaker 1: be an NFL draft darling if he comes out this
1:59:22
Speaker 1: upcoming year. Maybe if he comes.
1:59:24
Speaker 2: Out, if he comes out, well, he just had a
1:59:27
Speaker 2: foot surgery.
1:59:28
Speaker 1: He did just have a foot surgery. So so now
1:59:31
Speaker 1: we got excuses for last year because Cooper said he
1:59:35
Speaker 1: was hurt all last year. So we shall see if
1:59:40
Speaker 1: he just comes out and he's good, like a solid
1:59:44
Speaker 1: quarterback and so yeah, but he will be a draft darling.
1:59:49
Speaker 2: He's already better than I thought he'd be earlier, earlier,
1:59:53
Speaker 2: not ultimately, but earlier. I thought it was gonna take
1:59:55
Speaker 2: a while, a lot longer to adjust from the level
1:59:57
Speaker 2: of competition he played out in high school. Well Manning
2:00:00
Speaker 2: is one football family. The Bachmeyers are another. What about
2:00:03
Speaker 2: mister Bear Bachmeyer right now?
2:00:06
Speaker 1: Right mind you, he was a true freshman. They didn't
2:00:08
Speaker 1: put too much on his plate. But he's a runner,
2:00:10
Speaker 1: he's a track star. He's wearing number forty seven. We
2:00:14
Speaker 1: can't take him fully seriously in number forty seven.
2:00:17
Speaker 2: Sorry, Bear, and his name is Bear.
2:00:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he doesn't have an alliteration which is elite?
2:00:29
Speaker 2: It is it is. I was a fan of his
2:00:31
Speaker 2: brothers as well. They've been a family to watch go
2:00:34
Speaker 2: through the go through the Yeah, and Hank, good old Hank.
2:00:40
Speaker 2: How about somebody who, if you could draft someone after
2:00:45
Speaker 2: their freshman year, might have actually gone in the first round.
2:00:49
Speaker 2: And now he's not even in the destination that he
2:00:52
Speaker 2: started at, and that is mister DJ Lagway. Ooh, portal bound. Really,
2:01:01
Speaker 2: I think he's got a limited time at his father's
2:01:05
Speaker 2: alma mater.
2:01:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, at Baylor, I think that. So Obviously, his head coach,
2:01:13
Speaker 1: Dave Randa, has had some issues offensively, he's had some
2:01:18
Speaker 1: issues defensively. They both haven't matched at the same time.
2:01:23
Speaker 1: Lagway blew up a couple times last year in that
2:01:26
Speaker 1: five interception game. He didn't even know what he was
2:01:30
Speaker 1: He was just throwing, he was just chucking the ball,
2:01:32
Speaker 1: just didn't even know what he was doing. Like, he
2:01:35
Speaker 1: has lost his confidence on some level. And I believe
2:01:38
Speaker 1: that it would have been good for him, probably best
2:01:42
Speaker 1: for him to take a.
2:01:45
Speaker 2: To take a.
2:01:47
Speaker 1: What's what's his name a Dante More year where he
2:01:50
Speaker 1: sat down behind a good quarterback and just humbled himself.
2:01:55
Speaker 1: But he didn't do that, and I believe that because
2:01:59
Speaker 1: of that, it's not gonna go well at Baylor this year.
2:02:04
Speaker 1: And if that happens, Dave Randa won't make it, and
2:02:06
Speaker 1: I don't think that he'll make it with the next
2:02:09
Speaker 1: coach because he'll probably bring his quarterback with him. So unfortunately,
2:02:14
Speaker 1: until some until some things change, some humility hits, it'll
2:02:18
Speaker 1: he'll probably be back in the portal after this year.
2:02:22
Speaker 2: I will say this, he is with a hell of
2:02:26
Speaker 2: a quarterback coach in Jake's babital. It's the man who
2:02:29
Speaker 2: brought us to here at Guff. He turned Sawyer Robertson
2:02:32
Speaker 2: into a you NFL caliber guy. So if anybody can
2:02:37
Speaker 2: do it, but your father's alma mater, it's tough. We
2:02:40
Speaker 2: watched this happen with Jade and Rashada. The expectations are
2:02:42
Speaker 2: going to be high to you know, live up to
2:02:46
Speaker 2: the blood going from from from one guy to the next.
2:02:48
Speaker 2: And and sometimes that's a high pressure situation that you've
2:02:51
Speaker 2: got to get yourself out of. So next up, let's
2:02:54
Speaker 2: go with uh. Speaking of people who hit the portal
2:03:00
Speaker 2: to forge their own path, mister Sam Leavitt.
2:03:05
Speaker 1: Tyra Banks, we were rotank for you. You went to
2:03:10
Speaker 1: Arizona State, you got with Kenny Dillingham. They make you
2:03:14
Speaker 1: a household name and then you just bailed, like in
2:03:19
Speaker 1: the middle of the season. You were already out, had
2:03:23
Speaker 1: two feet out the door, but your but your uh but,
2:03:27
Speaker 1: but you couldn't get out yet because your coat got
2:03:30
Speaker 1: caught in the door. Somebody had to come open the
2:03:32
Speaker 1: door to let you out.
2:03:33
Speaker 2: So I don't like it. I don't like it.
2:03:39
Speaker 1: He's he was transferring hurt. I just this has all
2:03:44
Speaker 1: the hallmarks of not working out the way that you
2:03:47
Speaker 1: wanted it to work out.
2:03:51
Speaker 2: I am opting out of the conversation so I don't
2:03:56
Speaker 2: say something that I ultimately end up regretting, because I
2:04:00
Speaker 2: do think that this is a fan base that would
2:04:02
Speaker 2: have killed for him, and now they don't care whether
2:04:06
Speaker 2: or not he gets killed out there with that old line.
2:04:08
Speaker 2: We'll see what We'll see what bringing in Seaton does,
2:04:12
Speaker 2: and we'll see. We'll see. And he's very talented and
2:04:15
Speaker 2: best of luck to him in his future endeavors. Speaking
2:04:19
Speaker 2: of which, we do have another quarterback who hit the
2:04:23
Speaker 2: portal who we kind of loved. We put him in
2:04:26
Speaker 2: our underrated list, and that is Colton Joseph who is
2:04:29
Speaker 2: now at University of Wisconsin after starting out at Old Dominion.
2:04:33
Speaker 1: Oh, Colton Joseph, I got to put him in the
2:04:37
Speaker 1: runner track star catee category because he ran for over
2:04:40
Speaker 1: a thousand yards last year through for a little over
2:04:43
Speaker 1: two thousand. Hopefully he gets more opportunities to show his
2:04:48
Speaker 1: arm at his new spot at Wisconsin, and we are
2:04:51
Speaker 1: going to pray that he gets wrapped up in bubble wrap,
2:04:54
Speaker 1: just just at least get through eight eight games, please
2:04:57
Speaker 1: eight games, and because Wisconsin quarterback have not had such
2:05:01
Speaker 1: luck recently, so yeah, he's a track star right now.
2:05:05
Speaker 2: How about another transfer, this time from former national championship
2:05:11
Speaker 2: participant Texas Christian to reigning national champion Indiana. And that
2:05:17
Speaker 2: is Josh Hoover who's coming out of the air raid
2:05:20
Speaker 2: and headed into Bloomington to run that quick throw offense
2:05:25
Speaker 2: that they got out there.
2:05:27
Speaker 1: Championship caliber quarterback category, but it's gott an asterisk because
2:05:36
Speaker 1: he's with Kurt Signette. He just won a national championship.
2:05:41
Speaker 1: We can't fully math how this is gonna work at
2:05:45
Speaker 1: Indiana because it's Indiana. We don't know how the next
2:05:49
Speaker 1: transfer portal is gonna be. Can he do it again?
2:05:51
Speaker 1: If you do it once, it's an accident. You do
2:05:54
Speaker 1: it twice, you can really do it. And they're the
2:05:57
Speaker 1: beginning of their schedules. Thinks like it's only comes down
2:06:00
Speaker 1: to a couple of games. Josh Hoover threw was putting
2:06:04
Speaker 1: the ball in a lot of danger when he was
2:06:06
Speaker 1: at when he was at TCU. But the difference is
2:06:11
Speaker 1: is that he shouldn't be asked to do quite as
2:06:14
Speaker 1: much because of what Indiana does offensively. But he's not
2:06:19
Speaker 1: as good of a runner as as Fernando Mendoza, so
2:06:25
Speaker 1: I'm going to do asterisk it. But he's in the
2:06:30
Speaker 1: championship caliber category.
2:06:34
Speaker 2: The one thing I worry about with Josh Houver is
2:06:35
Speaker 2: the one thing I've never seen out of gun Or Stockton.
2:06:37
Speaker 2: You have to go all the way back to his
2:06:38
Speaker 2: junior year of high school to find it.
2:06:41
Speaker 3: Is.
2:06:42
Speaker 2: You know, one guy doesn't turn the ball over and
2:06:43
Speaker 2: the other one makes a habit of multi interception games,
2:06:46
Speaker 2: and so Josh Hoover discipline. Josh Hoover is one of
2:06:49
Speaker 2: the most dangerous players in all of college football. He
2:06:52
Speaker 2: will throw it to the other team though. All right, George,
2:06:56
Speaker 2: pray for me on this one. I'm gonna give it
2:06:58
Speaker 2: a shot. Here we go. Jeron Kiwi Saga jeron Kiwi
2:07:05
Speaker 2: Sagae pooey Telly.
2:07:07
Speaker 1: That's very closet Jered kiwe sagapoo Telly. Oh so future
2:07:14
Speaker 1: face of college football and if they can so, I'm.
2:07:18
Speaker 2: Gonna have to learn his name, yes, or or just
2:07:21
Speaker 2: jk S. I want to be respectful enough to I'm
2:07:27
Speaker 2: gonna land this plane at some point. Yeah. You like him,
2:07:33
Speaker 2: and you you think and you think he can rock
2:07:36
Speaker 2: with Cal at least another year after this one. Uh,
2:07:39
Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
2:07:40
Speaker 1: But he will for sure be at Cal this year
2:07:44
Speaker 1: and he's going to play well. He's got a new
2:07:47
Speaker 1: head coach. The future is very bright.
2:07:52
Speaker 2: Okay, enemy territory here, mister demand Williams Junior.
2:08:00
Speaker 1: Tyra Banks. We were rootank for you. He has turned
2:08:04
Speaker 1: like he's simuled well. In a matter of hours. He
2:08:08
Speaker 1: went from Washington fans, even though that they didn't love
2:08:12
Speaker 1: some of the stuff they saw. At times they were like.
2:08:14
Speaker 2: He's our guy.
2:08:16
Speaker 1: He should have been in the Heisman category, he should
2:08:19
Speaker 1: have been in the you know, potential national he's everything.
2:08:22
Speaker 1: We love him to that Mejia can't throw the ball.
2:08:25
Speaker 1: He stinks, and so I think that the relationship with
2:08:29
Speaker 1: him has ruined, has been soured with the fan base.
2:08:33
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fully repairable even if he plays great,
2:08:37
Speaker 1: that even if he win the national championship, they'll still
2:08:39
Speaker 1: be like, I mean, he's cool and all because of
2:08:43
Speaker 1: the way it happened, but he's Tyra in the Tyra
2:08:47
Speaker 1: banks because everybody at Washington was rooting for him, and
2:08:50
Speaker 1: now I'm not sure if everybody is.
2:08:54
Speaker 3: Man.
2:08:55
Speaker 2: You know, I loved him mine. It is not easy
2:08:59
Speaker 2: for a fan base to read the words I need
2:09:02
Speaker 2: to do what is best for me and my family,
2:09:04
Speaker 2: because the unspoken part of that is and it's not you. Yeah,
2:09:10
Speaker 2: And so you know, you might have thought you were
2:09:13
Speaker 2: being respectful and you might say, like, oh, haters are
2:09:15
Speaker 2: gonna hate. I'll just win him over with my play.
2:09:18
Speaker 2: But that leaves a lasting impact of like, if you
2:09:21
Speaker 2: had a choice, you would be gone because you don't
2:09:24
Speaker 2: believe in us. Yep, and this that we're building, and
2:09:28
Speaker 2: that is a jagged, jagged pill. How about another college
2:09:32
Speaker 2: football playoff participant from the twenty twenty five season, someone
2:09:36
Speaker 2: who does a little bit of everything.
2:09:37
Speaker 6: Mister Marcel read, Marcel read, he is going to go
2:09:45
Speaker 6: in the hype pipe HiPE great college football quarterback territory.
2:09:52
Speaker 1: He now Granted, he may make a big leap as
2:09:55
Speaker 1: a passer, but at this point in time, I believe
2:09:58
Speaker 1: he's just a good college quarnderback.
2:10:00
Speaker 2: He can make.
2:10:01
Speaker 1: Plays, but he's got blow up potential too. And and
2:10:06
Speaker 1: I don't believe that Texas A and M is a
2:10:08
Speaker 1: national championship caliber team. Last year was a lot to
2:10:11
Speaker 1: do with the schedule. They were a very good football team,
2:10:14
Speaker 1: but some of it had to do with their schedule
2:10:16
Speaker 1: not having to play the top teams in the SEC,
2:10:19
Speaker 1: which is why they only finished with one loss. So yeah, yeah,
2:10:23
Speaker 1: well one one loss in the regular season, so yeah,
2:10:26
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with that.
2:10:29
Speaker 2: Okay, how about mister CJ. Carr Notre Dame quarterback, freshman
2:10:35
Speaker 2: High heightsman elite category.
2:10:40
Speaker 1: He is one of he is part of one of
2:10:42
Speaker 1: the few teams that can win a national championship. I
2:10:44
Speaker 1: believe that can win a national championship this year.
2:10:47
Speaker 2: And he is.
2:10:49
Speaker 1: I but I am a fan. I'm a CJ. Carr believer,
2:10:53
Speaker 1: a CJ. Car Truther. Yeah, I believe he's got a
2:10:57
Speaker 1: chance to do all.
2:10:57
Speaker 2: Of those things. You know, it's I give. I'm one
2:11:01
Speaker 2: of those people that like give CJ. Carr credit anytime,
2:11:04
Speaker 2: Like if Kenny Minshi goes off this year, or if
2:11:07
Speaker 2: Steve Angeli gets healthy and does some positive things, every
2:11:11
Speaker 2: single one of those things is going to be a
2:11:12
Speaker 2: credit to CJ. Car for me, because he chased those
2:11:14
Speaker 2: guys out like as a as a younger guy. So yeah,
2:11:19
Speaker 2: super super impressive. Our first person in the top category.
2:11:24
Speaker 2: What about another at one time, at least halfway through
2:11:28
Speaker 2: the season last year, the freshman that everybody was talking about,
2:11:32
Speaker 2: the freshman that opened a thousand wallets in ann Arbor, Michigan,
2:11:37
Speaker 2: mister Bryce Underwood.
2:11:38
Speaker 1: Oh, he is in the portal bound category along with
2:11:47
Speaker 1: DJ Lagway. Now, granted, I hope, I hope, I hope,
2:11:53
Speaker 1: I hope that this kid plays well.
2:11:56
Speaker 2: I do.
2:11:58
Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether how him and uh Kyle whitting
2:12:03
Speaker 1: Him are if they're gonna mesh fully. Uh, But and
2:12:09
Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham is going to play the quarterback that he
2:12:12
Speaker 1: feels like is going to give him the best opportunity
2:12:16
Speaker 1: to win. Now, mind you, he's not always right because
2:12:20
Speaker 1: he didn't start cam rising when he got to Utah
2:12:24
Speaker 1: and then he figured out he was the best option.
2:12:27
Speaker 1: But I do believe that Bryce Underwood that it could
2:12:32
Speaker 1: go left. So I'm gonna put him in the potential
2:12:35
Speaker 1: portal bound category. But I but I hope I'm wrong.
2:12:39
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong.
2:12:42
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I Michigan fans are gonna hear that, and
2:12:48
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, portal can't it can't be portal
2:12:53
Speaker 2: positive because where can you go that's better than Michigan?
2:12:57
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, so that might be poor derogatory, but
2:13:00
Speaker 2: he also might need Again, what not a lot of
2:13:04
Speaker 2: people recognize is the most touchdown passes any Michigan quarterbacks
2:13:07
Speaker 2: ever thrown for in a season is like twenty five
2:13:10
Speaker 2: or twenty six is historically. Yeah, it's like the Cleveland
2:13:15
Speaker 2: Browns of college football, but they win right Like, there's
2:13:19
Speaker 2: just you can't point to a franchise QB in their
2:13:23
Speaker 2: in their history.
2:13:25
Speaker 1: Okay, so Tom Brady who they were jacking in and
2:13:28
Speaker 1: out of the lineup for Drew Hanson, so they couldn't
2:13:33
Speaker 1: even identify that.
2:13:35
Speaker 2: Drew Henson. Let's be fair to the former New York Yankee.
2:13:39
Speaker 2: I know, I know that's not your team and Dallas Cowboy,
2:13:44
Speaker 2: former Dallas Cowboy Drew Henson. How about Leonoris Sellers South Carolina.
2:13:54
Speaker 1: Oh, he's going to now Leonoris Sellers, he goes into
2:13:59
Speaker 1: the Tyra Banks category, and I don't believe it's for
2:14:03
Speaker 1: his own fault. It was we were routine for you.
2:14:08
Speaker 1: He does have Brials over there, as is oc now,
2:14:10
Speaker 1: which should dramatically help his situation. Brooks Austin told us
2:14:16
Speaker 1: earlier that both of the tackles are out for spring
2:14:20
Speaker 1: spring ball if they don't protect him better and if
2:14:23
Speaker 1: he doesn't take a big leap as a passer, because
2:14:26
Speaker 1: he took way too many sacks. Some of them were
2:14:27
Speaker 1: on the old line, some of them were on on him.
2:14:30
Speaker 1: He doesn't trust what he's seeing all the time, so
2:14:32
Speaker 1: he holds the ball.
2:14:34
Speaker 2: He's the and we were.
2:14:36
Speaker 1: Rooting for you, but I think that his thing could
2:14:39
Speaker 1: not be self inflicted.
2:14:40
Speaker 2: This would be more.
2:14:42
Speaker 1: You know, shame shamee Beamers doing and some bad luck
2:14:46
Speaker 1: at O line.
2:14:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's the he's on the Brian Brahman like
2:14:51
Speaker 2: the longer you stay, the more wards we see. But
2:14:54
Speaker 2: at one time people were thinking he was a future
2:14:56
Speaker 2: number one overall pick. So we'll see how that. Kevin Jennings,
2:15:01
Speaker 2: who you had to correct me when we were talking
2:15:04
Speaker 2: about Kevin Jennings yesterday that I was thinking about twenty
2:15:07
Speaker 2: twenty four Kevin Jennings and not twenty twenty five Kevin Jennings.
2:15:11
Speaker 2: This man has stopped running. Yep, Kevin Jennings a pocket passer.
2:15:16
Speaker 2: Thought it was a dude.
2:15:17
Speaker 1: It was so funny because that's the perception that you
2:15:22
Speaker 1: get of him because he's very athletic. He extends plays,
2:15:25
Speaker 1: but he don't run past the line of scrimmage very
2:15:27
Speaker 1: often anymore. So he threw for a lot of yards
2:15:31
Speaker 1: last year. I'm putting him in the great college quarterback category,
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Speaker 1: the hype pipe pipe because he's done a good job.
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Speaker 1: He is not going to be a championship caliber team,
2:15:40
Speaker 1: but they're gonna win a lot of games and he's
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Speaker 1: a good quarterback.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, someone I know that you believe in and
2:15:51
Speaker 2: people might be surprised that you're a believer. Rock obect.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I just like his grit. I like his toughness.
2:15:59
Speaker 1: He's come over from Iowa State to go to Penn State.
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Speaker 1: I think it is going to go well and he's
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Speaker 1: going to end up an NFL draft Darley. I believe
2:16:07
Speaker 1: he's going to go off and have a rock party
2:16:10
Speaker 1: type situation where he goes and he plays well in
2:16:13
Speaker 1: the NFL. Whenever he gets to play, he.
2:16:16
Speaker 2: Gonna be the Ariot Gene spokesmodel like mister brock Party.
2:16:22
Speaker 2: So we did talk about one quarterback who you know,
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Speaker 2: Drew Mestemaker, who didn't start in high school and then
2:16:29
Speaker 2: took North Texas by storm. But Drew Mastermaker got his
2:16:33
Speaker 2: ass kicked by a certain quarterback in the same conference,
2:16:35
Speaker 2: Byron Brown, who is now at Auburn with his former
2:16:39
Speaker 2: college coach. How do you feel about Byron Brown? Do
2:16:43
Speaker 2: you think his best days are behind him? Or do
2:16:45
Speaker 2: you think the legend will continue to rise out there
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Speaker 2: in Alabama?
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Speaker 1: Oh, the legend is going to continue to rise. He's
2:16:51
Speaker 1: in the hype pipe pipe great college quarterback and could
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Speaker 1: be an NFL draft Darley if he can pick up
2:16:57
Speaker 1: his like look like look more like a passer on
2:17:02
Speaker 1: a consistent basis, because he's not like he's a better
2:17:07
Speaker 1: passer than John Mattier, but he also is not in
2:17:11
Speaker 1: the elite type of category of that. If he can
2:17:13
Speaker 1: get in that, he'll be an NFL draft Darling. But
2:17:17
Speaker 1: right now, great college quarterback and potentially if he were
2:17:21
Speaker 1: on a different roster, could be a championship caliber quarterback.
2:17:27
Speaker 2: And he got some Jael and Milroe in him too,
2:17:29
Speaker 2: where if like he needs to go get those yards
2:17:30
Speaker 2: with his legs, he will. He could take over a
2:17:34
Speaker 2: game with his legs if he needs to. Well, I
2:17:37
Speaker 2: saved the I saved the best for last. Dante Moore,
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Speaker 2: Detroit product, former UCLA roster member and current college Football
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Speaker 2: Playoff participant with some big wins under his belt. He
2:17:57
Speaker 2: was a five star, starting to justify that five star.
2:18:00
Speaker 2: And you've said this is Oregon's best shot at the title,
2:18:03
Speaker 2: maybe that they've ever had. Where does Dante Moore belong
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Speaker 2: in these tiers?
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Ralph, he's a track star.
2:18:15
Speaker 2: No, I'm lying.
2:18:18
Speaker 1: Heisman elite category quarterback. This is a man that is
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Speaker 1: going to improve that he can put the team on
2:18:25
Speaker 1: his back. He will prove he can that he won't
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Speaker 1: have two left feet when he's running more. I'm excited
2:18:33
Speaker 1: about him. Yes, Heisman elite category championship caliber quarterback, plus
2:18:38
Speaker 1: being able.
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Speaker 2: To take the hardware home too.
2:18:41
Speaker 1: I think it's a two man race for the Heisman
2:18:44
Speaker 1: with a potential national championship. Two and I think that
2:18:47
Speaker 1: is Dante Moore and CJ.
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Speaker 2: Carr that's it. You know why that category matters to me?
2:18:55
Speaker 2: Why because the Arizona Cardinals are gonna be picking number
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Speaker 2: one overall next year. Damn damn damn Dante Mo or
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Speaker 2: future Arizona Cardinals.
2:19:10
Speaker 1: Nope, nope, nope. Somebody throw throw the game at the
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Speaker 1: end of the season. But you, guys, though, that is
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