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They Didn’t Welcome Us At Karak · Tales from Incredible Tales

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: What I saw was there's this entity, like an old lady.
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  Speaker 1: At far, all the way at far.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Nakia.
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  Speaker 2: My name is, my name is Wayne. My name is Kyle,
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  Speaker 2: and this is Tales from Incredible Tales, inspired by the
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  Speaker 2: classic horror series, we explore Southeast Asia's supernatural culture. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we have a returning guest tonight. A returning guest not
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  Speaker 2: just for this series, but for this season.
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  Speaker 2: Nakia Ayop is a friend of the show and is
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  Speaker 2: one of the only guests that has been featured on
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  Speaker 2: every season of Tales from Incredible Tales, sometimes more than once.
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  Speaker 2: She is the creator of hit horror YouTube series True
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  Speaker 2: Horror Stories POV as well as the live series Live
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  Speaker 2: To Tell the Tale. A true lover of the supernatural,
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  Speaker 2: Nakia Ayo, welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: I hurt myself lah. He was so serious. I was
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  Speaker 1: like keeping in, keeping it in, you know. I was like, OK,
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  Speaker 1: don't burst Nakia. Don't burst
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  Speaker 2: for you. I do
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  Speaker 1: dramatic. Oh, for me, but I dramatic. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: as, as we were saying
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  Speaker 2: before the cameras roll, you are very
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  Speaker 1: serious,
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  Speaker 2: very serious. No laughs, no smiling during your episode, none.
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  Speaker 2: So who, who raise your hand if you got recognized
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  Speaker 2: at the Woodlands checkpoint for your horror content? Raise your hand. Who?
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  Speaker 2: It's, it's
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  Speaker 1: not Kyle. No, it's, it's him.
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  Speaker 2: Raise your hand, uh, when we went to the toilet
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  Speaker 2: at the R&R near Gunting when you got recognized eavesdropping
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  Speaker 2: this guy. I never used. I was there. I was
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  Speaker 2: just looking and then it just happened. I was like
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  Speaker 1: I was telling him, I was whispering to the guy, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I almost cover his mouth, you know. But anyway, how
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  Speaker 1: are you guys?
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  Speaker 2: Fine, good, good. Excited to have you on the show again,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, I think we got a lot of stories
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  Speaker 2: to unpack since our last encounter, right?
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  Speaker 1: You
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  Speaker 1: know, I've been keeping it in, you know, because I cannot,
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  Speaker 1: we cannot say right, so I've like, I like tahan,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I say, OK, OK, this one is something that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people ask me lah, like people, when I
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  Speaker 1: see people as family members because they know what I went,
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  Speaker 1: you know, where I went because they took care of
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  Speaker 1: my kids and all that. So they keep on asking me,
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  Speaker 1: did anything happen? Then I have to like poker face.
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  Speaker 1: I said, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I had to do that, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: now it's really for me to unleash. Ah, you better
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  Speaker 1: watch out.
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  Speaker 2: Can
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  Speaker 1: I
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  Speaker 2: ask,
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  Speaker 2: can I ask when your family ask you, right, and
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  Speaker 2: you say no, did any of them believe you? No.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty surely like,
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  Speaker 1: yeah, sure. Then after they were like, we'll wait for
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  Speaker 1: the show ask them to watch the show
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  Speaker 2: I just watch the show la. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So in this episode, right, we'll be asking Nakia about
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  Speaker 2: her experiences with the supernatural while live streaming for her series,
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  Speaker 2: the validity and the intention of performing rituals or occult
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  Speaker 2: practices online, whether she's a daredevil or cautious person when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to supernatural encounters and how important credibility it
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  Speaker 2: is when it comes to supernatural tales.
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  Speaker 2: This episode was inspired by the classic Incredible Tales episode,
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  Speaker 2: When the End Is Near. Nakia's series, Live to Tell
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  Speaker 2: the Tale is a live show where people are interacting
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  Speaker 2: with you and your host actively commenting or calling in
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  Speaker 2: to your show. You described it as a digital seance
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  Speaker 2: where it's a shared experience between yourself and your viewers.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us about some of the creepiest experiences you've had
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  Speaker 2: while live streaming, and do you think your viewers are
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  Speaker 2: also able to experience the supernatural when watching your live streams?
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  Speaker 2: Does the supernatural transcend through the screen?
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  Speaker 1: To be very honest, right, OK.
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  Speaker 1: Um, some things that we did on air kind of backfired.
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  Speaker 1: One of the perks that uh my channel viewer or, um, subscribers, right,
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  Speaker 1: they get to enjoy, it's called live live audience, which
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  Speaker 1: means they answer the correct questions correctly, they get to
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  Speaker 1: come down to our studio to watch us do the live.
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  Speaker 1: So the thing is that uh when they come down,
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  Speaker 1: obviously they need to be physically there, right? So they
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  Speaker 1: know our address, right? OK, so that's when things got
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  Speaker 1: a bit unhinged. So there's this one time we went down,
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  Speaker 1: I was collecting mail and then I received a parcel
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  Speaker 1: that has no, nothing written on it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't, you know, like, usually if people send you
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  Speaker 1: via post there'll be like, to whom, and then they'll
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  Speaker 1: be written, right? This one it's really like somebody go
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  Speaker 1: and soup, like, uh, slate lah, like sumba, like go
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  Speaker 1: and stuff it inside the letterbox, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then I am a very um at this point
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  Speaker 1: lah I'm already very cautious about these kind of things
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  Speaker 1: right then when I shook it, it felt very grainy, OK,
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  Speaker 1: and then someone, I don't want to say who lah,
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  Speaker 1: this guy um he's a partner of the studio as well,
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  Speaker 1: so he thought that it's samples, you know, like sometimes
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  Speaker 1: people send samples, you know, sachet of coffee, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know lah. He went ahead and opened it in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: You want to guess what is it?
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  Speaker 2: grave stand. I was just guessing. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: really legit. So this guy, when he opened the thing,
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  Speaker 1: then he didn't know what it was. He was very oblivious.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, what fertilizer. He really liked that,
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  Speaker 1: you know. After I was like, Oh shoot, he opened
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  Speaker 1: these things inside the studio, and I just played off coolly.
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  Speaker 1: I just said to him, OK lah, maybe we dispose lah.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need, right? We're not a plantation kind of studio. What? OK, lah.
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  Speaker 1: Then he really throw away.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that kinda.
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  Speaker 1: Set something in motion because after that,
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  Speaker 1: Um, things weren't that great over there. So it began
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  Speaker 1: to affect us individually, some even in terms of health.
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  Speaker 1: So when I say health, if you guys know me, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person who always go medical first,
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  Speaker 1: scientific reasoning first. If that one cannot be explained, then
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  Speaker 1: we will go ahead and then traditional, then finally we
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  Speaker 1: will say, OK, lah, this one really cannot be explained.
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  Speaker 1: That means it's something supernatural lah, right? We always go the,
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  Speaker 1: the scientific route first.
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  Speaker 1: So really, one of our members, we went the scientific
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  Speaker 1: route first, MRI, CT scan, x-ray, everything cannot determine, but
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  Speaker 1: this person is still suffering, yeah, then at last we
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  Speaker 1: went to the supernatural route and then we found something.
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  Speaker 1: So at this point, um,
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  Speaker 1: We don't know who sent it. That's one. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know the purpose. Who was it targeting, but then ultimately
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  Speaker 1: all of us can lah. So long story short, um,
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  Speaker 1: that's why we are doing some housekeeping at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: So we actually stopped inviting our audience to come live,
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: but we give other perks instead, lah. So actually it's quite.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at first I was like, yeah, what, what
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  Speaker 1: harm could it, could it do, you know, like people
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  Speaker 1: coming over what nothing what, but, but imagine if let's
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  Speaker 1: say I started doing this at my own house. I
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  Speaker 1: imagine that that actually opened my eyes. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: think we spoke about this before, right? Yeah, he has
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  Speaker 1: been convincing me lah to get my own space, but
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  Speaker 1: I was telling him, wait, wait, wait, chill chill. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want additional overheads, right now that when this happened,
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  Speaker 1: then I realized I told him I said, OK lah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's time lah.
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  Speaker 2: OK.
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  Speaker 1: With the what? He is
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  Speaker 1: still in the process of recovering but it's affecting other
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  Speaker 1: members now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's very good for the audience, very,
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  Speaker 2: very fun, very interactive, but,
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  Speaker 1: but the, the repercussions we get is crazier, because for
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  Speaker 1: me personally it affects my kids.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of them, I think it's more of their
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  Speaker 1: personal being, so they get sick and they have like
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  Speaker 1: illness that cannot be explained. So that's the downside to
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  Speaker 1: this kind of things like, yeah, yeah, we get views
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  Speaker 1: all this, but your, your mental.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and every, uh, like every once in a while you
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  Speaker 2: will see them canceling their life because they are all sick,
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  Speaker 2: which is
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  Speaker 1: weird, you know, because, yeah, because, OK, not saying what lah, we,
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  Speaker 1: we try to keep our health, you know, like maintain, we,
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  Speaker 1: we do our whatever medi supplements and all that. So
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  Speaker 1: we are like thinking what is it like because the
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  Speaker 1: virus nowadays is like really very strong or what? We,
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  Speaker 1: we try to think again scientifically, ah, then after that
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  Speaker 1: we cannot lah. This one is really too much. It's
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  Speaker 1: like really like.
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  Speaker 1: Like purposely don't want us to do that, you know, like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: yes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we could get through this entire episode
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  Speaker 2: or we can't get any further in this episode without
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  Speaker 2: addressing the correct size elephant in the room.
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  Speaker 2: As our viewers know, you were there with us in
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  Speaker 2: the first episode of the season when we were recording
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  Speaker 2: along Karrak Highway. Interesting things happen to us. I say
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  Speaker 2: us largely to you two. Would the two of you
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  Speaker 2: like to share a little bit about what you experienced
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  Speaker 2: while we were filming? This is a walk of courage,
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  Speaker 2: I think. Oh yes, please.
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  Speaker 1: In all honesty, I didn't know the location, right? You,
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  Speaker 1: you really didn't tell me anything even though we tried
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  Speaker 1: to bribe him.
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  Speaker 2: I
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  Speaker 1: didn't because you are bribable, that's why he don't tell you,
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  Speaker 2: right, right,
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  Speaker 1: right. OK, so I really didn't know, you know, but
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  Speaker 1: then I didn't expect it to be kak because of
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  Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, logistically speaking, road, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's quite, you know, but he pulled.
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  Speaker 1: Of this one, no, no hard feelings. I feel that
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  Speaker 1: the underpass itself wasn't that scary because there was another
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  Speaker 1: production filming, right? So instead of being scared, we were excited, right?
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  Speaker 1: We see, we see actors or what. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: instead of being scared, it became opposite lah, right? So
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  Speaker 1: we decided to, you know, went off the script
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  Speaker 2: before that, right? OK, you need to tell them.
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  Speaker 2: When we were in the vehicle, we just entered, right?
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  Speaker 2: And then you WhatsApp me. You never say I, I
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  Speaker 2: sit beside her lah, she never, she never talked to
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  Speaker 2: me and she
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  Speaker 1: WhatsApp
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  Speaker 2: me.
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  Speaker 1: So whenever we go to places, right, and if I
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: see something weird or feel or hear, usually I don't
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  Speaker 1: say because I feel that that's like acknowledging it.
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  Speaker 1: So what I would do is text because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know in my head I feel like the ghost cannot
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  Speaker 1: read lah, you know, so I just text him and
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  Speaker 1: then we were going down the Bukit Magic, right? It's
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  Speaker 1: called I think Bukit Bukit Magic viral. We were going
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  Speaker 1: down and it's like a U-turn kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I swear to God that was my first time being there.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been there ever, but I saw literally a
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  Speaker 1: group of people which consists of elderlies and the most
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  Speaker 1: prominent one was small kids, you know, like those wearing
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  Speaker 1: singlets and then shorts, and then they were very excited
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  Speaker 1: to see us shoot,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I can imagine you know, camera.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and, and because the setup itself, I was very,
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  Speaker 1: you know, was very wild, you know. So I mean
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  Speaker 1: for me like if it, it makes sense for people,
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  Speaker 1: the kampong people to be like a bit like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: caper capola. I want to see, hey, what's going on there?
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  Speaker 1: So I texted you. What, what did I say? something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Translation is basically over that side. Like there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, is it like, like cheering us
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  Speaker 1: on or watching us lah 7:28
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: p.m.
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  Speaker 2: She WhatsApped me. She said, King of Blakang. The road
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  Speaker 2: at the kampong Rombong and Orang Orang. So basically you
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  Speaker 2: look behind, is there's a road there, uh, there's a
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  Speaker 2: kampong there. Uh, a lot of people there. That's why
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  Speaker 2: she asked me. Then 7:29 I replied, Balamana. Where, which part?
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  Speaker 2: And then 7:29 she replied thing oh ting ting uh
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  Speaker 2: thing tengo tengo lakitosblakanaku. Then I said that that and
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  Speaker 2: then 7:29 she said again ade buddha buddha then I
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  Speaker 2: then I reply again tade do giba ba.
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  Speaker 1: So pray Buddha Buddha means and he went
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  Speaker 2: no pray.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, no, no, no, you go and
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  Speaker 1: pray now. So I literally, so I, I'm glad I
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: didn't acknowledge lah, right, because we were texting. So I just, OK,
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  Speaker 1: then I literally off my phone and I just started
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  Speaker 1: to recite some prayers lah. So for context again, I've
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  Speaker 1: never been there. I don't even know there was any
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  Speaker 1: village or what. I from where we were standing, we
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  Speaker 1: cannot see the papa, right? There's no signage. We cannot
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  Speaker 1: see anything, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: a, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 1: I legit saw a whole kampong was standing there. OK,
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  Speaker 1: so we moved on. We were like, OK, never mind, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And then you even took a video of me just
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  Speaker 1: to show, you
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  Speaker 2: know. I took a video just to, you know, at
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  Speaker 2: least there's proof lah, right.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: But then coincidentally there was someone standing behind or what
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  Speaker 1: at one point in time, right? Then we, I, I said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they disperse.
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  Speaker 1: Because again, scientific, you know, try to be real first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe they disperse already lah. They see us
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  Speaker 1: set up, they say, ah, boring. I haven't start, so
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  Speaker 1: they tell already. So that's my thinking. Then going back,
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  Speaker 1: so just now I mentioned about the whole underpass thing, right?
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  Speaker 1: So we went off script.
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  Speaker 2: So while walking, right, I was talking to her, blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, talking to her. Then like, Hey, you
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  Speaker 2: want to go back to the place just now or not?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's a, it's a good place for
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  Speaker 2: us to check it out since just now you saw something, right?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you should go there, lah.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, OK, OK, then we, I think, uh, you,
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  Speaker 2: you need to watch back. I forget what I said,
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  Speaker 2: but I said something, and then, OK, we go to
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  Speaker 2: the front and then we pata bale. We go to
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  Speaker 2: the place lah, the one she saw got kampong on,
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  Speaker 2: and then, so we did, right, we did. OK. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: when we Pata Bali, we walked past the set already.
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  Speaker 2: Then nearing to the entrance of the, the road, right.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God, me and Nakia were walking and
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  Speaker 2: then when you heard like someone it's like we thought
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: we thought one of the crew or you guys, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so we turned behind on the right side there's no
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  Speaker 2: one because that one is the U-turn, the band one, right?
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  Speaker 2: No one was there or maybe one or two people
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  Speaker 2: was there and then the crews, and usually if let's
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  Speaker 2: say you guys want to stop us.
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  Speaker 2: When we turned around you guys were like like that
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  Speaker 2: right you know but no, like no one, no one
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  Speaker 2: said anything, so we're like, OK, nothing we continue walking
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  Speaker 2: and then we walk in front and then we can
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  Speaker 2: see la we can see the signboard right slam ratanke
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  Speaker 2: kampong Asli. So
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  Speaker 1: then we can see
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  Speaker 2: at
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  Speaker 2: that point of time it was quite dark at that
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  Speaker 2: point of time I already heard, no, like some murmuring
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  Speaker 2: in front. It's like there's.
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  Speaker 2: Um, it wasn't really that clear, it's a guy or
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: it's a girl, but I heard like at least got
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  Speaker 2: two people, like, you know, talking to each other, and
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  Speaker 2: then I was thinking because you said there's a kampong there,
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  Speaker 2: and then she said that she saw a kampong, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, OK, maybe right, right in front, on
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  Speaker 2: the left and the right got kampong houses already. So
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  Speaker 2: in my head,
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  Speaker 2: I really thought like, you know, it's kampong people, and
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  Speaker 2: then like they were like, hey, hey, finally starting you
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: know like they holding camera going inside the going inside
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  Speaker 2: our kampong that's in my brain, you know. So the one,
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  Speaker 2: so we, we walk very slow, right, and the like
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  Speaker 2: I like I don't want to intrude their place, you
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  Speaker 2: get what I mean? And it's like I'm so sorry,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like it's a stereotype, but it's kampong orang
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  Speaker 2: Asli I scared.
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  Speaker 2: I scared like, you know, if we go one step
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  Speaker 2: further they might, you know, they might like beat us
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  Speaker 2: up or attack us or what, right? So I told her,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: he like yeah get the pan, you know, and I
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: swear to God it wasn't because I'm scared, it's because
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to intrude someone's place, OK, so you
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  Speaker 2: share your side of the story,
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  Speaker 1: OK, so we are already up there I think one
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: of your, uh, I think, sorry I forgot.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I think someone said to me, Hey, when you're up there,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: help me take B-roll. So I was telling you, and
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: in that video, right, when I was look, uh, taking
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: the buro of the signage, I can hear him say,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you know, he was saying, you got people in front,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: got people in front in people's country and be respectful.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: That's my thought. So, then this lady, right.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: She keeps on like, eh, so yeah, go in, go
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: in there. I was like, I don't know, you know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: like don't want to go in, you know, like I
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: really don't know what to do, you know, because I
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: don't want to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: intrude. Firstly, I just want to say we traveled so far.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Let's make the most out of it.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but still, if we cannot attack at that point
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: of time, I think if we cannot attack got
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: master master.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: She put you on the same level as the master,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: not a master, but sure. So, so that's what I heard, ah, OK,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I just tell you first what I heard. I heard
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: like someone murmuring like, Hey, this one, these two got
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: camera on, and then we walk, we pause a bit,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: then we talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, and then we
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: did some like turn around right with the camera.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: When he was walking, I heard the murmurings as well, OK,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: so I was thinking, we share the same thought. I
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: was really thinking, he really got a group of people
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: in front, but as we approached closer, he, I don't
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: know whether
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you remember, but
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: he said something. He said, um, hey, uh, really la
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: got people in front. That's OK lah. Then we just
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: take the Brow everything.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Then what I realized is when I, we were laughing,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: we were kidding, and you know, making fun of like
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: light of the situation. What I realized is whenever we
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: talk or somebody laugh, right, the person, the people at
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: the other end doing the same thing. That's why I
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: realized when he said people say, OK, OK, got people
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: then he say, hey, don't ah that's it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Then like 3 seconds later, the voice.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Same, you know, so I then it got me. I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: was thinking, eh, how come, ah, like, like it's like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: you know, it's, it cannot be an echo because the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: place there's like it was so dense, there's no, there's no, um,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: echo to bounce off. So I tested it again. So
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I said something and then we were like, hey, you know,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: we were making.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Loud and really, you know, the voice on the other
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: end sounded the same. Like, of course they didn't like
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: actually say whatever words I'm saying, but you can hear
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: for me, I can hear the tone is really mimicking
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: my voice, especially because mine is higher. So when I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: was like, ah, then the.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Same. Then I was like, OK. Then I was like
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: telling him, I said, Hey, come on, it's OK. Let's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: go up further, because, because, because the thing is, it's
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: still just auditory, right, it's not visual yet, and I
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: know you want to see, you want to try and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: see right sometimes, right? Yeah, I know him.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I know, I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: know
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: his,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: his
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: threshold, so I was like, OK, let's go, because at
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this point that thing is mimicking us inside my head already.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: After he go and say, hey, no bro, uh, uh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: in fact I really I got one girl and one
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: guy voice
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: so bro like for example we were here, right, maybe
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: they were just at the area. It was really close.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I can hear that even though they are murmuring right,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: but it's really close,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: very loud, very loud. Then when he said, um, can
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you know, like one guy, one girl, I look at him.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I was like that waiting for him to realize, you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like you realize or not.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: One girl, one guy, you realize that he happily, no,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I don't wanna let, don't intrude, lah, don't intrude. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: was like, OK, that means this guy, he really don't realize.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Then he keep on repeating the voice and I said, OK,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: never mind lah. Then after that, I, I, I know
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I cannot force him to go any further in. So
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I tell him, OK, let's just take B-roll. Let's just
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: take videos. Whilst, while I was doing that on our
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: right side,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: there's a banana tree. Yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: there
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: was a, there was a.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: in fact, so what got me was there wasn't any wind,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it wasn't windy, OK. One tree, one particular tree, the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: light I was shining on right, one, literally one branch
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: was doing this, was moving, no wind, nothing. So it
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: caught my eye. I was like, eh, but I don't
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: know whether the camera recorded or not lah. Yeah. So
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: then I realized then when the thing was moving then
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I saw
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: He was under the belief. Then after that he was
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: like close. We, we were actually quite close. I said,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I said to him, OK, OK, cannot already because show
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: itself already because I feel that at this point we
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: can hear. I can see. I don't know if at
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: any point of time he might suddenly, uh, what I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: don't
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: know at that point of time, she was like she was,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: and then when that happens, right, when I point the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: camera towards the banana tree, right, then she's like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: OK, suddenly I change my tone.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, OK, never mind, let's go, let's go,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: because I see that thing and I feel that it
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't a welcome sign, it wasn't welcoming anymore lah. So
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: then when we were turning around, we were going back down,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: he again kept on saying, no, no, I really don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: want to go, sorry, not because I'm scared, but really
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: because I don't want to intrude. Then I finally had enough.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I turned to him, I said, Bro, what do you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: mean you heard, you know? Then I said, What voices?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: He said, no, really got people's voices, right? I said, no,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: those are not people's voices.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: You think back, then after that it dawned upon him,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he said, he was actually mimicking us and then he realized, then, then,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: then we went down, right, so on the left side,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I think there were cars lined up, there was the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: masters I think line up. I said to him, go
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and ask, right, you ask them, they said no one
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: went up, no one was standing there even, no one
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: was like literally no one was there.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Then he was like, Don't, don't, don't, I didn't hear voice.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear voice. I said, OK, OK, never mind.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Then we went into the car and it's why I recorded.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I recorded our driver, right. Then after I said, you
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: interviewed the driver, right? He said, bang bang. Firstly, the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: one that said, the one that said, ah, the one
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and not say, ah, the one that says stop. He
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: said no one screamed, but we turned. He don't know
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: also why we turned, yeah, right. That was
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the, right? Is it Audrey Audrey, right?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, you heard from the recording. Oh yeah, from the
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: recording you can hear the sound, but no one else
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: heard the,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: yeah, so the, the our driver said no one shouted
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and then he also said no one went up the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: hill at all. Then after that we were talking and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: then he said, um, what was it uhang Asli, so
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: there's a law that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: says,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, so the driver said something in the line
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: of um.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Uh kamponggan Orang Asli, right, so usually, right, the, the,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the head villager, right, have to invite you to go
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: in into the village. Uh, you cannot just like go
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: in uninvited, you know. There's, uh, ethics law or etiquette, right,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: for you to, you know, for you to go through la, right?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, then, then that proves my point lah. That's
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the reason why I didn't want to intrude someone's kampong.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: But then again, what, what I was thinking was the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: kampong is.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Just there it's left and right, you know, start already
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the kampong right after that we, we were talking to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you guys and whatnot, and then like she like not
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: happy at that. So she decided to Google the place, right?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Google the place. Bear in mind, ah, uh, when we,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: when we were on the way back, right, she said, oh,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: she saw got one like Gurbang
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: or while we were walking up the thing, right, so
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: flashing flashing light, ah, then I hear the, the he
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: heard the voice murmuring. I also heard lah.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I legit saw two like a pillar that comes together,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like Bukit Brown, that, that,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: yeah,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: arch, yeah, correct, the arch, but then it doesn't have
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: any wording on it. It was just very big tall white.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: So I keep telling him, yeah, yeah, I know it
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: sounds like the people were there. I know it's, it's,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it's not people at the arch there, it's something else.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Then he was like, No, no, I don't see any arch.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, really got one arch.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: It's so big. Like how can you miss it? Then
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: we were fighting about it. My
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: eyes, you know. There's no arch, right?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: There's no. So,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: so actually when I referred back to the photo that
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you took, I realized I realized there are no arch.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I got receipt, bro. It's a, it's a series of misunderstanding, yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: let me tell you from my perspective because I'm, uh,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I'm the first cast member to be there because I'm
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: with the crew now. I did the prayers, right? So
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: when we were praying, uh, we did a prayer. Master
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Jason is right in front of the hill that you
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: all go up. It's just the entrance of the Orang
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Asli Kampong. There is a kampong in front of the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: kampong at the entrance. There is this garbage pile, so
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: they throw up I think.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: They throw all their rubbish there. So we thought like, OK, lah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: maybe we pray that it's not so, uh, disrespectful because
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it's just right beside the garbage and we don't want
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to pray where we were shooting at a tunnel because
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: you create smoke and it's too near to the forest,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: it might cause a fire. So we just did there
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and immediately when she told me about the people with
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the the sign and then like welcoming us, it makes
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: sense because we we did.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Do quite a bit of offerings there. So maybe the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: spirits that were around, they came and then they basically
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: were thanking us. So they, they welcome us, yeah, but
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in the podcast episode I say tolerated la because at
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the podcast recording, the vibe got changed a bit. It
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: changed a little bit, uh, but when, when she was
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: messaging you, then you'll come to me, then you'll start
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: telling me that then immediately I say, yeah, you got
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: people actually really got, got like.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Actually only 4 of them. 1 truck 3 to 4, yeah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: like a small truck. They were transporting durian, 4 by 4, yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: they were transmitting durian, so they were, they were chilling
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: there talking and looking at us. After that, after a while,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: then they left. I thought you were talking about that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't think, no lah, because the moment saw like
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: an entourage, you know. No. Then the moment I see
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: how many people is it? A lot. Then how many
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: is a lot, like 20? They say, Oh, OK. They said,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've got children also. And, oh, there were
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: no children. There were no children either, all all men.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Uh, or probably old, yeah, so they are not children.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: When we were filming the episode,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I can see Nakia's eyeline like or shift a bit.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I was sitting at the corner. Then Fa was beside me.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Then Nakia. Then Wayne. Wayne is closer to the trees.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: It's like closer to a kind of like a U, yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I, I had a feeling that there was something behind
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: me at some point, not all the time. It was
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: like tall, and especially when she was sick, we were
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: talking about the miscommunication on the podcast itself. We were
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: talking about that in the episode. I had a feeling
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that there was something like tall behind me and like
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you lah, like I, I do get glimpses at the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: corner of my eyes, like shadows, and this one was tall.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I can feel it. So I want to ask you,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: was there something
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: behind
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: me?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: You called me for season 5 or not.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: OK, I don't know whether it was specifically to you,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: but because I've been telling him that side of the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: road where he was, you were sitting at behind you
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: already got things there, like their home there, yeah, so
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: God lah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: So there were things behind us behind me and far
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: behind him behind me
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: also
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: because, but you were seated closer to closer to me,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: so it's a bit harder for me to look at you.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So he was a bit further. So when I see
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: him that I alama I automatically
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: right
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: because I can feel it. Like, I can feel there
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: was something, but I don't know if it was all throughout.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I think it was a while only like it was
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: in and out, in and out that kind. Then I
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: think towards the end, towards, I think the midpoint, then
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: don't have really, I think he left.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: So wow my sensor good so their home is closer
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: towards the tunnel or no, no, no, it's the tall trees,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the tall trees. They got a lot of banana trees
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the road where we came in.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So the, the car and then there's a lot of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: trees there. So I was like telling him, I said
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: my first thing was I said to him, Hey, you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: believe me or not when I tell you, you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you see these trees very tall, right? There are entities tall.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Remember I said
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: don't believe her.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I heard it. I heard it. So the one that
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: was behind Hadukala, right? How you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: can
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: feel in I honestly cannot confirm lah, but it was
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: very really that that that day, right? I had a feeling,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: but I wasn't, I wasn't scared because I, I, I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: feel like they were tolerating us. Yeah, I think if
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: y'all move beyond the threshold, then can confirm can, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: because I do a lot of like, like night walks
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: and whatnot, right, on the debunk la whatever, right, so.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Um, every now and then I would share some of
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: my experiences with like my family members, lah. So, uh,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: when I got back from, uh, Genting the Kara, I,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I shared with my mom and some of my family members.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And they were saying most of the time lah if
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: you go to a forested area and then you see
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: something that is not there, like for example, she saw
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: like the the kerbang thing, right, usually lah, correct me
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, ah, something got to do with bonyan already.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So when I try to, in Malay we call it mohasaba, right,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: so when I try to reflect, right, maybe right, the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: person shouted, right.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: That's the first like warning already like, you don't go inside, ah,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: you don't go inside. That one the first warning we ignored.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So the second one was I don't know why, but my,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: my instinct is telling me do not intrude the kampong lah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: do not go into uninvited lah, right? So the feeling.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: It was very strong and I was fixated, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: it's telling me, OK, just don't go any further, you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I think that's the second warning sign already. If, uh,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: if let's say, right, if I follow Nakia crazy hit, right,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: we go inside, we walk past the, the, the arch, right,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: most likely, right, the story differently. I think Narakia is right,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you probably will get possessed.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You will probably get it's either that or probably we
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: will spend the next few days there la. You will
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: go missing and you guys will call the kampong people. Hey,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: help our crew, one of our crew all missing area,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you know, like, and I, I, I, I like to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: believe that people who live in Kampong, they also got
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: some form of spiritual protection by Pungu or something something
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: that to protect.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Happy they're like, why you, why you, you know, yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: so I, I, I, I, that's why I was, I
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: was telling you guys, you asked, you tell me, you're
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: going off script like how I'm gonna do, I say, OK,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you do it, but like don't, don't go too far.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Some more at that point of time I was because
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Ideal got sick. He wasn't there for the shoot and
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: then Ideal told me, you take care of this woman.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: You take care of her. She will be gilly.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: So like, you know, like I, OK lah, like as
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a little brother, OK, I, I don't let her do
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: crazy things, lah. OK, I think you, you, you did
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: a good job. And, and also one more, one last
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: detail to add, right, actually I went to grab a B-roll.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I quickly ran, uh, when we set up, uh, when
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: we finished, I take off my mic. I ran to
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: grab a camera to go and shoot a B-roll, uh,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: to add into the wall of courage of you guys
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a long shot. So I was, I was shooting, then
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I saw you guys turn.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I caught the shot. Now I was trying to wave
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to you guys.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I was
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: trying to wave to you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I want you to look
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: into the camera,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: but I didn't shout.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: because I was
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: thinking, did I shout? I don't think I shout because
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: if I shout, everybody was, was here who shouted. Yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: so nobody shouted. But have you, have you managed to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: see the footage? I saw the footage. Nothing serious.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Ah, OK, but
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the audio, so no audio, audio gone, right? OK, let's,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: let's get
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: into the audio before that. I just want to say, right,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I think there's this one part which I like, I said,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I am trying. I even though I ghost ghost, but
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I try to be scientific.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I told you there was a kampong, right, and then
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: when you told us really got kampong, then we can
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: say ah got kampong, right? But I tell you my
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: heart literally sank when you show the map, right?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: It's it's like
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: 1 kilometer away
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: yeah it's I think it's more than 1 kilometer away,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like way deep. Then we say, hey,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: where got Kapong, then it's in there, then we scroll bro,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that got
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: me
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: off
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: guard. I legitimately thought, right, the kampong, like after the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: entrance and left and right. So yeah, I was fixated
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: with the imagination.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got kampong, so we like, OK, yeah, really
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: got kampong, nothing. So no, it's deep in there we thought, OK,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: deep in maybe stone throw away lah. Still like, OK, Scarlet,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: he said no, cannot see that one that one whole
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: stretch of nothingness,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: yeah, but the shouting sound, right, uh, I did hear
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: it in the, in the rushes. I got here, but
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like anything very, it's not scary. That's
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the thing. It's not like a clue. Like it's not,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: it's not. It's like, if I, in fact, if I
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: just give you the sound file, right, you just sound like.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Somebody shouting, right, yeah, but if I tell you the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: context that there was nobody shouting, then that's creepy because
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I really, maybe we really capture something supernatural. That's why
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I say season 5 we have to go to Japan.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I agree. Which camera which camera?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I agree. You, you, by the time you, you learn
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: how to pronounce, maybe in Japan, I think so.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: You must learn. You want to go, right? Aki Gahara,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Aki Gahara, Akihara. I think every season the spirits try
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to give us a little bit.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I think quite, quite, quite chill. So every season is
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: getting better, really, really, every, every season is getting better, hopefully, lah. Yeah,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I honestly, I don't feel scared when I play the song. I,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I thought it was OK because it really sounded like
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: a normal, normal person shouting. It was not like very near.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: If he's very near the mic, then that would be creepy,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: but it was loud lah. That's loud to you guys,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: but not to the sound because the mic is on you,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: so it's actually quite far, yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: OK, guys, so actually, right.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saving this one story. I, I think I told
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: briefly told Wayne, briefly told Kyle that if Nakia, you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the episode with Nakia is gonna be something special because
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: it's something quite exclusive lah that happened. We rarely hear
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: this sort of story, but it happened in my workplace,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: in my community, in my studio. Uh, you don't, it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: because of you. You don't, you don't, it's because of you.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I legit thought it was something that happened.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: No, OK, so, uh, normally on a Friday, right, I
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: would invite guests and then like, uh, it's been quite
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: some time. I've been wanting to invite her and then like, uh,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: finally she's free. She's a very busy woman. She finally
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: is free to do the show, so I invited her
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: with Ideal with her husband to come onto the show.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And then like normal la right normal I fetch her
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: from the lobby and then we, we started the show
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I think 12:15 a.m. but then we were in the
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: conti I think at about 12, about 12 so um
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: when we first entered the conti uh as per normal,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I opened the conti door right and then like I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: want to set up my stuff right then she asked
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: me the very first question she asked me, he foorang.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Obviously, right, I work alone, right? There's no one there. So, hey,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I go just holdang ah uranga, ah, OK. Then she,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: she went quiet, you know, so I set up my style,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah blah.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: And then, um, obviously when we were on air, um, I,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: whenever she tells a story I have to maintain eye
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: contact with her, right? Because one thing about me, right,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: if I don't maintain eye contact with you, I will,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: my ADHD brain I will like suddenly fly fly away
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: and you were saying, what you were saying I forget already. So, um,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: so I maintain eye contact with her. So every now
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and then I notice, you know, I'm sitting like this,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: she sits there.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: And then every now and then her eyes will look
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: at me and then look to my left, look at me,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: look to my left, look at me, look to my left.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Then at one point in time, I don't know whether
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: it's like cannot the threshold or what already, right, she
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: suddenly stopped talking on air, you know, suddenly stopped talking.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Then her eyes went watery, you know. I was like, hey,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: go go. Then the husband was like.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, uh, you, you don't think far. You can't go far.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: You think, you think of TV you think TV you
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: think why you think you want to go far. Don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: look at me. Don't look that far. Don't look that far.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Just look at the TV or you look at me.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, uh, like, OK, so, um, and then
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the show went on as per normal, but at that
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: point of time I really felt something weird lah. I'm quite.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Weird, weird out lah, you know, because of that incident.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And then we had to take a break, uh, so
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: we took like a 5 minute break, we went to
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the toilet, the 3 of us, you know, for the
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: first time ever, I usually never leave because TikTok, uh,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: is still live, right? And people were watching and then like, OK, for,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: for some reason that day, never mind, we be the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: 3 of us take a 5 minute break, so it
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: was empty in the, in the studio lah, no one
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: was there.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So we went out, go to the toilet and then
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: we come back in.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I cut the story short and then we listened to
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Nakia's perspective. So right after the show,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I pack up everything again. I felt very weird already.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I waited, weirded out already. This, this, this was after
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Nakkia they all left because you, you obviously, oh no, no,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: we left together, we left together. So usually if on
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a Friday I will leave together with the guests lah.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So bring them to the lobby, change the pass, and
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: then like usually lah, most of the time I would
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: lay out with the guests for a while, lah, maybe talk, talk.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: So I was talking to them and I really want
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: to know what happened. They, they didn't want it, they
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: didn't want to tell me in the first place, especially
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: because I tell a person like.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: The less you know the better, but I really, I
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: really pray, you know, cookie cookie, just tell me, just
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: tell me OK one OK one. Like I say, ah,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: because a lot of people say before you brave you brave? No,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not brave. It's just, it's my work, you know.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I have to, yeah, just do it. So maybe
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you want to share your experience or your perspective from
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: start to beginning and then I share a little bit
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: of like the post, you know, the, the day after, the,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the week after.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: The 2 weeks after, the 3 weeks after, the month
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: after the incident.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: OK, first and foremost, I'm sorry. OK.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: OK, but, um, at the start when I asked him, uh,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: if there's someone, even though I know that usually you're alone, right,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: but sometimes they do have friends like, you know, like
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: we have like your media people,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: they do sometimes hang
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: out I don't know what usually I come so for
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: me it's not like I want to scare him, it's
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: really like, you know, but why I ask is because
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I saw someone lah.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: She saw, she told me that she saw someone standing
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: at the ring.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: And it was quite close. Maybe the ring light is
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: beside Wayne, beside Wayne. That's the distance, as in like
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: it's standing right next to the ring light on top
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: of the table. You ask her like she saw the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: light I entered and then she said, she asked me
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: that question right because she saw someone beside the ring
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: light
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: is on stand so it's on the floor and the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: thing was just standing there.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Technically it's beside. Yeah,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: so, so she, she kept quiet. So you were already
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: in the studio when she came together. Oh, you entered together. So,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: but I, I did went up first lah to put
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: on my barang barang right. So when she says she,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: she's there, then I go down to fetch her.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: OK, I see, I see. So we were storytelling, I
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: think we were talking about black magic,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: right? It
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: was one
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of your stories, yeah, one of my stories, and I realized, right,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: whenever I talk about these kind of things, right, like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it kind of like.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Trigger some things. So we were storytelling, then my husband
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: already say, oh, don't look at him, you know, because
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: he already got some distraction. He also felt it for him,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: he felt at the behind Conti there, there was
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: someone's A, which is the one we go live every day,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and there's Conti B. Conti B is usually very dark
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: because no one uses that room lah. We use that
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: room for recordings and whatnot, lah,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: yeah.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Both of us, me and idea, we already see got
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: something lingering down there la walk past, like, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: like one attention like that, you know, like when you're
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: doing work, then your kid will be like walking, ah yeah,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: like that. So occasionally if you see we were, we,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: me and my husband, we will keep on turning and looking,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, why, who is this person who
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: keep on peeping, peeping capo like that. So that was
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: first distraction. Second one was something going on with him
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: which I will see later. The third one we were
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: talking about the ghost, sorry, the black magic thing at
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the CNA. Why he purposely explained into great depth that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: there could shouldn't.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: There there's no possible way anyone can walk there. It's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: because there was a heat.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: That was just boom at the window, but it didn't
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: bang onto the window, it just like into the window.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: That got me good because like I don't know whether
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I said something was there the song playing mantra, I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know honestly, I don't know, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that thing happened that I stumped, that's why I kept
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: quiet because it really shocked me to a point where,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: why that thing is really just looking at me and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: staring at me and just like, like focusing on me.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: So I was like, OK, that's why, that's why I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: got teary eyed because I feel that intense, yeah, first
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: time
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I've never seen her you know she she would just
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: laugh it off, but this one right, she really like like.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: That all was intense. It was so intense. Like really
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: got something stared down, you know. OK. That was the,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the fun part. Then after that, OK, we moved on.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Then after that, then he, we leap out outside, OK.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: We leap out outside because we didn't want to go
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: home straight because we were shooting, and he asked, and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: he probe probe. He asked. Then finally I said what
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I saw was there's this entity, like an old lady
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: who was standing at the ring light all the way
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: while F was talking. that was just.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: At far, all the way at far, whatever he was
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: talking or whatever that thing was just staring at him
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: move until it it was.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Infatuated. I feel that it was because, because the eye
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: contact game was so strong, it was like you don't
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: mess with him or his mind that kind of vibe.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: So it was really staring at him. Yeah, it was
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: stare down, man, it was really looking at your neck,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I mean your, your profile lah. Yeah, so that's why
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I said, huh, look at me, ah, huh, no, bro,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: he was looking at you all the way
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: before I invited her. I invited like Uncle Raman. Uncle
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Rahman is like a spiritualist.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Um, and I asked him, he never said anything to me, bro,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: not a single thing. And then at that point of
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: time it was, uh, Brian Ramadan, and Ramadan. Uh, I
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: have like a special segment with this Uncle Rahman every Wednesday.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: So I asked him, that was the last, uh, session
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: with him, you know. I asked him, Uncle, you did
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: like almost 4 segments with me already, 4 episodes, 4
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: weeks with me already. You never see anything before.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, then he say, ah, in Malaya, I do that,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: but takanak bilanga, you know, he said something in the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: line of I have a, but why would I tell you,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: you know, it will scare you. And then he told me, ah,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: like it's to the point that in contiB she saw
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: someone sitting on the chair. Usually people will say, oh,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the thing like move, but it's exactly what Nakkia said.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: The sitting on the chair, sometimes the contiB one is
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: just like, like, you know, like, like capo like that,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: like want to see, then we'll move around one.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: The thing won't stick there, it will just move around.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And then the thing at the glass panel also Uncle
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Rahman saw before, but the auntie, when I asked him
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: if I'm not wrong, he said he never seen before. So, um,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: after the incident, I worked, uh, two days after I
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: worked morning shift, it's a Sunday. I kid you not,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I was so traumatized, I was so scared.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I opened the conti door usually like for weekend show, right?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I would just um I I I would just, you know,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: talk talk talk talk talk and I would just walk
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: around and go go pantry, go make drink that Sunday
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: right bro, I'm I'm not lying. I just sat there
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: like a stupid kid after every talk sat down, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: just sat there like
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Got anything or not, I'm legit scared, bro, and it,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: it went on for like 2 to 3 weeks. I
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: was legit traumatized. I'm so scared. I'm so scared to
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: be in that county alone, but I have to face
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: my fear. And then, um, so the following week, Monday, Tuesday, OK,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Monday I was legit scared. Tuesday, I told myself, he cannot,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: this is my workplace.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I need to take control. I cannot let this thing
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: scare me off. So you know what I do? I
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: open the conti door, open the conti door, then I
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: legit become gangster, bro. Like, hey, this one, if the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: thing come out, I give one tight slap. See I
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: change my mentality. I'm not lying, bro. Now after then,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: then slowly, slowly, slowly I felt better. But yeah, it's,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: it's really traumatizing, I think. And the thing is, until now.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe I should invite Nakia again. I think, I think
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: until now I think the, the lady is still there
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: watching me. Yeah,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: because you see your boss
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: say why you don't go OK, I feel like the
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: takeaway is ladies love me. I do want to ask
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: also the sense that you got from this old lady,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: both of y'all, was she like, I know she seemed infatuated,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: but was it like
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Uh, creepy kind of infatuation or she wanted to protect far.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: It
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: was
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the creepy kind. It wasn't protecting, man.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I'm your
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: biggest fan of
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it's more of the kind of fight.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I, I, I, I have a take on this is
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: basically it could be uh an attachment to the show
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: host maybe not too far.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe, but that's the thing, the show
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: has been so long since the show is live. Yeah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: after before me, I think a few years already the
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: show is not live. So I'm the first person who
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: kind of like revamped the show to make it live
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: and then got TikTok all, you know, so and they
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: change hands quite a bit. Yeah, yeah. So I would imagine.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Imagine that maybe the entity is a fan of the show.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: He wants to be, he wants to be entertained live live.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: The thing is, right, like because I'm a, you could
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: say I'm a content creator now, right? It's like content, right?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: But then I'm very forgetful. There's a lot of things
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: happen to me, but I'm very forgetful. So sometimes I forget.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Someone needs to remind me that, oh yeah, yeah.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Why not? Next one we do, we don't call master.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: The crew is right, I'm I'm so used to, I'm
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: so used to there's no master. So if you ask me,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I'm OK. This question is for everyone here and those
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: watching at home. In your opinion, what is the best
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: modern technology to use to communicate to the supernatural world?
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: The thing about K2 meter, right, I heard it's not accurate,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: especially in Singapore because there's a lot of, uh, I
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: mean in 1982, there's a research says that the wing
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: flap oh no no no but the K2 is not accurate.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: One of the, uh, what is it device that uh
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: my friend used, right, it's called a RAM pod, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know lah. To me, that's quite accurate because
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: very seldom the thing will make sound one, very seldom,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: but if it makes sounds right.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Usually, really the thing is there,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: um but um there's this thing that actually got me, um,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it happened to you guys before,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: but
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I know it sounds very lame lah, but elevator game,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: elevator,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you know, like when you press certain numbers, don't open, close,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: don't open,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: close,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: yeah, correct. So at first it kind of sound very, uh, childish,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: very like, ah, too farfetched for me, but then there's
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: this one instance where I went to this mall, um,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: which was at night like for some late movie or
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: something like that I accidentally pressed this one button and
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: then it led up to this floor where
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I asked later on, I asked the people who work
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: there in the morning or during the day, right? They
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: say that floor actually has been closed off for years.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: So I said, but when I, when that night when
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: we were going for the movie, it was open. But,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: but the lights were off, lah. It's just that can
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: go in. But then I said, you know what, actually that,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that level has always, always been closed off. So I
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: think it could have been like maybe really that day
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: they swis go and open. It could have been that,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: but that kind of struck me like, hey, what if
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I accidentally went.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: To a different dimension on a lift, I mean, just
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: for fun lah. I mean, I just love to think that,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: yeah, yeah,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: backrooms, slash backrooms, fancy, bud
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: because this time we're talking about technology, right? It must
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: be updated right
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: for me is the, the like the sensor technology like
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the SLS.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: You know, SRS is the Xbox, uh, like this like
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: a right then you can detect like the movement movement,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: but you take it another level like certain car brands, right,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: they are able to detect its own. No, no, they
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: can detect humans. So there was one guy who was
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: driving a a certain car brand like electric car, and
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: then he drove to a, uh, cemetery and he started
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: detecting people.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Not the sensor, but obviously cemetery got nobody right in
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night. So I thought that was,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: that would be quite freaky. Yeah, like you drive in
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: a cemetery and then you just high beam and you
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: put cameras around, then you see if you got sense,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: sense anything or not. And if we start sensing people,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: then you, you see the camera, you capture anything.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. This sounds like
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: a sponsored posting sponsored sponsored one, what's that, the, the,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the thing that not EMF, it scrolls through all the
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: different stations very quickly.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: To find
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: channels,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: yeah, I think it's called ghost box or ghost voice
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: box or something like that. I believe that is the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: best way because the ghosts wouldn't want to be so obvious.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So they will hide their own messages in there because
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: you can listen to it and go, Oh, it's pattern recognition, lah.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: You hear something that you thought, oh, you heard a voice,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: so they're like subtly trying to send
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the message that way.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Without giving themselves away.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I was, I was filming my audio on the on
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: the speaking in English, uh, can you hear me? Can
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you hear me?
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Like that, you know, but me and we were shooting
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: something lah, but then we weren't saying that line, we
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: were saying speaking in Malay lah, but then this guy,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: he said then he stopped, heh, who's that? who kept
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: on saying that, and after that he do it kept
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: on happening.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And then we found out that uh there was a
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: certain incident that happened there, resulting in like someone who
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: actually wanted to seek help.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Let's move over to Kyle, who's ready to go live
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: with the morbid fact of this episode. OK, so, uh,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: similar to Fast Show, uh, one of the most popular
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: late night horror shows in Thailand is called Ghost Radio,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: hosted by Watara Pon Ponjadi.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: where his live stream can go up to 7 hours.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Callers are actually invited onto the show to recount their
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: own supernatural experiences, very much like Nakia's own live streams.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: From these stories, the host has observed that the spirits
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: in Thailand are upgrading with the times and are allegedly
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: using modern technology to contact the living. He says, quote,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: when
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: There's more technology, the chance to see ghosts increases. Technology
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: becomes the channel where they can contact people. What do
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: you think of that?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: can manipulate, right, that kind of hides the fact like
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: makes it less easy.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: For us to differentiate, uh, because if let's say we
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: can record all this everything, but then there's no manipulation,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: then we are very clear cut. But my thing is still,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I think ultimately it's still very even lah that you
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: have the footage but still can be manipulated. So at
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the end of the day it's still the same.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I think our cameras in 4 are sharp and they
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: do quite well in low light, but
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Even though you, you, you say that you saw there
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: was nothing. Yeah, he did, but there was nothing.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe for now is just equipped for audio but not yet.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, even though we think 4K is up there,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: but maybe it's really not enough yet maybe not there yet.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: but they can only like manifest sound like strong enough
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: to manifest because sound seems to be the, the clear
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: way to get ghosts. I think there was one, like
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: record of like the earliest recording of a supposedly sound, right,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: it's very, very early stages in terms of technology. So I'm, I'm,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I'm really more inclined to go with Nokia's point of view,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: which is like I think sound is.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: In a sense, far more advanced that is able to
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: capture spirits. Yeah, I think video they they need more effort.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe the camera shy.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually that's true. Because most of the time I
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: see people you know get footages of ghosts, right? Mostly
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: it's not 4K, uh, it's not even 1080p, it's usually
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: like 3GB.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's true, it was very low risk. Yeah,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: but the, the thing is I had to delete it
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: if not I would still be sick.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: My eyes was swollen. We went to doctor. Everything. They
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: cannot cure me until I had this recurring dream, this
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: thing say delete uh in Malay la, uh, jaga mega
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: bakuja mega baku. And then we did something and then
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: we delete, uh, but that
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: was my eyes
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: swollen. Serious, my eyes swollen. So I, I think for
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: me because that one really happened to me, so that
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: one I say really I recapture or something,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: but, but a lot of the times is really the.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: The delete thing,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: yeah.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Alright, thank you again, Nakia for joining us. Thank you.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I always say like it's always fun to have Nakia.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Nakia really brings a different kind of vibe energy, you
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: know why? Because she's the black magic woman.
• 53:21
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• 54:00
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