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Druidry: The Queen's Gambit, David Prowse & Tenet · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  so it is official I'm now part of the Xbox Hall of Fame very good I got my
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  trophy so this means you're officially
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  famous welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy I'd like to think I was already
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  famous just being part of this podcast yeah sure unofficial you don't have a
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  you don't have a a trophy for being on the podcast yet no why not I think I I
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  think you guys should get together and get me one as well man I think we can
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  probably do that yeah uh we have to come up with some kind of creative where do
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  you get trophies from um trophies are actually quite easy to get and they are not
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  expensive he say a they're easy to buy
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  no there was a little while ago we had a going away from work someone was leaving
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  so I we all chipped in by present and she doesn't really like a lot of things
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  so we got her a trophy that she could have in the desk at a new work and like
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  a nice looking trophy like laser what did it say oh it said uh to this person
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  for being the best person oh nice and what was the trophy was it classic cup
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  mhm no no it's a bit like the Xbox One I Got and yeah that was like 60 bucks like
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  trophies are not expensive you think they are but most
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  companies give them to themselves as well so you're officially famous now
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  that's great yes yeah official famous my troph got my jumper I now I'm not paying
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  for Xbox game pass until like 2023 or something ridiculous wow well neither am
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  I but that's cuz I've I've already prepaid for purchased yeah and then and
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  I also now have my second Xbox set up downstairs all right don't brag guys I
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  canceled my game pass this week I canceled it for two reasons number one I don't have an
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  Xbox yeah fair fair um I canceled it for that so we why paid a 15 bucks a month
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  if you can't use it 20 bucks a month but uh I also canceled it because while I
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  like some games very much I don't like a lot of games and I'm more than happy to
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  buy the game I want to play and I really do feel like
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  I spend a lot less than 20 bucks a month on the say three games a year that I
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  really really get into mhm that's I
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  think that may change once it's like the new Bethesda games start coming out day
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  one and things but how many new Bethesda games are going to come out one and I'll
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  buy it oh there'll be ELD scroll 6 there'll be the new style Spacey one
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  Starfield whatever it is
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  called called Bethesda star spy one they'll make remake Skyrim Again release
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  another Fallout I better not have to pay for Skyrim again you would though oh I I
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  mean I've paid for Skyrim at least two more times than I should have yeah so y
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  so and would probably if they did release like a new even more enhanced
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  one for the new generation consoles I think rain man I if there's
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  not a mod for rain I'd be very surprised there are a lot of mods do it not rain
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  in Skyrim I never noticed no I think just making it look better oh back
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  backlighting rain yeah I've got the
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  atmospheric mod and it is [ __ ] beautiful and there is definitely rain in that
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  rain Sunshine fog beautiful game all the all the
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  weathers are represent all your favorite weathers together at last so I'm I'm
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  still just shocked cuz there's like a ton of games I want to play on Game Pass
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  so it just confuses me same I don't I you're probably right Dan I think I mean
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  I'm only going to be playing cyberp Punk uh yeah exactly so I mean there was one
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  year where all you played was The Witcher 3 that's right um so I'm not
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  saying it's and for somebody like Luke like it would be insane not to have this service
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  for me though I think it just didn't add up the numbers didn't add
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  up I'm not convinced all of them were numbers frankly I no I still cuz did you play
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  the new Star Wars Jedi fall in order game oh remember we yeah we all bought
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  that and then and then both of us were like eh nah not for me did just play
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  through on story mode like I told you both no or did you try and play through
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  on normal or hard on normal if you had to just played it as on story mode out
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  that whole Dark Souls feel of it where you have to die and go back and upskill
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  a lot I just couldn't play as a redhead I just couldn't suspend what's wrong
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  with redhead is there a yeah is what what mode gets rid of that yeah I know I
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  was like [ __ ] where's the [ __ ] character [ __ ] I just can't I can't
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  unless it's a girl in which case okay yeah but they're not real redhe head
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  like the actual red the color red yeah Mara Jade
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  yeah mhm um could have played Carion
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  caran is a good game great I'm sure there's I'm sure there's a dozen games
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  on there that I want to play how many I played that's another story Dishonored
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  to Doom I haven't even played [Laughter]
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  honored L of sports games look honestly repl I just want to I'm not going to go
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  and replay things I want to finish Assassin's Creed Odyssey and then
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  hopefully by then I'll have an Xbox [ __ ] series X and I can play
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  Assassin's Creed Valhalla and then cyber Punk and then it'll be
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  2023 I think you're probably going to if you've been I would recommend not going
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  to Valhalla straight after hly i' I would recommend not going to
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  Valhalla it's not it's not it's not as good as for starters you probably won't die
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  in battle so the chances of you going there are very slim yeah no what I mean
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  is you you need a game to cleanse your pallet if you go from one assassin creed
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  to another it's quite bad Tomb Raider as well yeah true cuz I got the series X
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  and I was like oh okay the only game that's actually a series X game as far
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  as I can tell at the moment that I'm vaguely interested in is valhala there's
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  a few like Forza 4 has a series X upgrade and so i'
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  played that a little bit but I don't know if it's I don't know if that counts
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  as like an actual series X game I imagine it's you know like the first gen
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  of Xbox One games most of them were kind of like they're pretty good but then it
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  wasn't until a few years later that things started to really get
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  good like yeah and I think it's going to be the same here cuz if even if you look
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  at remember like the 360 M there was
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  what GTA 4 looked like to GTA 5 oh yeah
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  like there was a huge jumping graphics and processing power Oblivion to Skyrim
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  on that as well yeah like they look like they were made for different consoles
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  yeah well they figure out over time how to squeeze the most juice out of those
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  machines this has got a lot of juice in it I'm just glancing over at my series X
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  well time start squeezing it down that squeeze too hard though but
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  yeah I'm going to finish Valla probably straight after this podcast you know
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  what uh so you're enjoying it um I'm enjoying it but I'm going to
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  say Odyssey is better okay I've heard that I mean I believe that because
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  Odyssey is is excellent and it's certainly on another level to all of the
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  other Assassin's Creed games that I've ever played the one big thing that's
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  changed are the side missions m M so now there are sort of for want to remember
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  it anyway I don't quite remember Odyssey too well cuz it's so long ago but now
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  you go to points on the map M and there'll be like a scene playing out and
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  then you have to basically complete that scene in the surrounding area so it
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  might be hey my husband's gone out hunting and he might be hurt you find
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  him you take him back but it's all done at the same time but you have to listen
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  to what people are saying there's no you accept this Mission and here's a point
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  on the map for you to go you actually listen what're and I'll give you um yeah
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  my pigs run away and you ran off into the woods to the east heed the
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  pig there was a little bit of that in Odyssey because there was that it asked
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  you when you started Odyssey and I think you can change the switch in the
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  settings it says maybe it's just what I've said of done yeah no no no I I
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  think what you're describing sounds like a more extreme version of it because
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  what it it says do you want Quest basically do you want Quest markers and
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  [ __ ] to appear on the map or do you want the the clues instead there's two modes
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  in Odyssey where one where it says you know it's west of the city west of the
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  city next to a body of water and then you got to look on the map and go it's
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  probably there and then when you get there maybe is it kind of pops in and
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  goes oh there it is maybe is the way I'm playing it but for this like the main
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  missions they're always like here you go and then it'll once you get to the
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  general area it sort of here's patched but the actual side quests they are just
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  there's no indication where you're going or what you're doing you don't even
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  accept the mission or anything you just do it or don't it's it's they're called
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  a world event do or do not and you do it and then it just goes world event
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  complete and it disappears from the map you know what I'm really looking
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  forward to starting to play which is probably not going to come out for at
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  least a year is stalker 2 really that's my most anticipated game
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  um and the reason it's been on my mind this week is twofold number one is I watched
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  Chernobyl oh ah and that's F I want to go there one day yeah don't go there
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  don't go there yeah you do Matt you'll like it I've seen go there neither of
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  you can go there because I don't want you to get irradiated oh it's fine it's not fine I
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  think I think it's kind of fine now it's more fine than it was the scientists in
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  this fictitious show that I just watched are correct it's not fine and it won't
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  be for about 100 years so stay away but but they do TS all they're all the time
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  now they do in fact tours have spiked since the show came out um you guys know
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  who wrote this series have we discussed this before on the podcast the series is
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  written by stalker series Craig Mason right no not of the uh Chernobyl series
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  ah yeah it's written by Craig Mason who
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  you may recognize from Raven's quest ah
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  yeah okay yeah yeah yeah as the as the guy who takes over as the tester yeah
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  and his claim to fame before this was that he wrote the two sequels to The
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  Hangover and he wrote the old Way's scary movie scripts right and now he's
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  just like you know what yeah yeah [ __ ] you all I'm going to do uh I'm going to
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  do a harrowing true story set in the Soviet Union just really shows that he's
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  got Range man he he does this is awesome and there's lines in this there's lines
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  of dialogue that I'm like I think Mason probably ejaculated as he wrote that you
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  know what I mean like orgasmic dialogue
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  hm I've seen the first episode of it and I should watch the rest I had seen the
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  first episode and wasn't necessarily hooked but I'm not sure why because when
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  I went back I watched from the start again and I was hooked and I watched it
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  in about a day and a half I mean there's only six episodes but uh yeah I tell you
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  though there's one thing right so episodes 1 2 and 3 nuclear meltdown
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  everyone knows the story [ __ ] dozens hundreds of people are dying okay that's
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  fine it's sad but I'm watching I'm okay episode 4 is about what happens to the
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  animals in Chernobyl oh and I couldn't
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  take it I actually fast forwarded it twice two bits I couldn't watch damn
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  yeah they they they they do get a happy ending at the end though right yeah yeah
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  it's just the last five minutes is just them jerking them off yeah yeah it's
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  they go M paror yeah sorry my bad my
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  bad no I don't think I'm going to watch it it's very sounds like you have to pay
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  attention um no not necessarily just watch things blow up
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  really we um accidentally started rewatching Red Dwarf this
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  week again I mean yeah sure I forget the
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  first season is not the best yeah it picks up right after like the first mind
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  either but it really really gets going Seas two three Etc if you think certain
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  things about it that if you think about it it's I mean it doesn't matter because
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  it's a silly comedy show about people in space you haven't seen Red Dwarf
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  listeners go watch Red Dwarf like I don't I don't know how you've not seen
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  it actually if no one is if a listener out there hasn't seen it Matt describe
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  the plot to them it's set in the future and there's a spaceship like a giant
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  spaceship full of people and then one of them list the character gets put
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  into uh stasis because he brings a cat onto the ship mhm uh which is against
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  quarantine walls they put him in stasis as punishment and then when he wakes up
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  3 million-ish years later uh there was some kind of reactor leak and everybody
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  died and he's alone on the ship now except that the cat evolved yes and the
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  cat is now humanoid and it's him and then hologram of his old bunk mate Rimer
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  who they've brought back and who he hates Rimer yeah who's a prick yeah and
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  there's a robot but then they all even though they've got this giant
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  ship for the first few things things do mix up later on but then they still just
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  share the same room even though they hate each other which which it's called
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  can't afford more sets Matt ex no no no I know that it just made me laugh Matt
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  two words for you Doctor Who all right remember the early seasons of
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  that and like I said it doesn't matter cuz it's just a funny show but but it's very fun
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  have you watched the last thing they've done for which was the movie I watched
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  the one is that the the the time travel one there's one where they no no no they
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  go back to England they go to like Manchester no so they did they did that
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  one then they did season 10 11 12 and then 13 instead of it being a a series
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  it was a movie so two-part minseries TV movie I mean maybe so I don't think
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  you've seen it maybe we'll we'll have to check is it the one where
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  guess not well there you go I guess this rewatch is going Tock M I can't
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  remember basically it was like we want to watch something but not something
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  that we have to think about too much mhm and then so that I mean that that
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  certainly is that description yeah and I've seen it that many times I could
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  probably quote half the shows when when watching them it's one of those ones where uh and
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  this may not be true but it's a great story that apparently the first episode
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  was written on a bar napkin one of those
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  mhm that classic genre it's a great idea for a show and then yeah I mean you
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  could do a serious show about it as well the the thing I love about British
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  Science Fiction is that they don't mind the camp and the comedy they don't like
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  the Americans are always like [ __ ] how do we make this darker but some of
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  them are very they're very clever too the episodes like the one where it's in
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  the first season where they they're traveling faster than the speed of light
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  and so a whole the computer um tells them they're going to start seeing
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  flashes of the future and so they're like having conversations with the
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  future cell and then the conversations play out again and you see like oh
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  that's what they were actually talking about just all this and then yeah it's
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  very clever oh great now I want to go back and rewatch it it's clever and it's
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  [ __ ] silly as hell that's what I that's what I love about it that also
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  describes also a season that I a series that I watched recently for the first
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  time in years I went through all the black adders oh yeah another classic
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  also matches that exact description silly as hell and very very
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  clever so yes love red dwarf um did you guys watch the Queen's
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  Gambit I'm about halfway through I'm about halfway through as well oh okay
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  what do you think I see a lot of my self in her oh yeah big part of yourself yeah
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  I spend I spend most of my time trying to figure out if she's hot or not I
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  don't think she is really but I think they want me to think she is no she's
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  even come out and said that her she knows she's not sure if she's hot or not
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  no no she's coming no she's actually s said that she doesn't think she's
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  beautiful enough to be in movies yeah I mean you don't you don't have to be
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  beautiful to be in movies fil more but it is because of that she looks that
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  looks a little different she's certainly interesting looking her eyes are very very far
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  apart yeah that's true but the I mean do you like the show yeah I like it I like
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  it yeah I thought it was really good uh it's broken viewership records for
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  Netflix so it's very popular which is it seems a weird one to actually break
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  records like it's good but it just TIG King did it I see I agree with you
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  except we're in the pandemic still and Netflix really wanted me to watch it
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  like Netflix insisted I watch this but it did it didn't break doesn't beat
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  Tiger King cuz it's it's their biggest scripted show that's the record breaking
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  oh okay so it's of Netflix biggest script it may still beaten Tiger King I
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  don't know but this is actually just of the shows that they've made this is the
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  highest significant because that's also Strang things right oh yeah good point
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  mhm but everything that I watched it would pop up and go oh if you're like
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  that you're probably like the Queen's Gambit and I was like what the [ __ ] I
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  don't doesn't matter what you watch and I was like I like the music of queen and
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  I like Gambit from the X-Men yeah but it wasn't until somebody told me oh no
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  that's very good you do want to watch that that I was like oh okay and that
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  person was you mat yeah well it's a great show thank you yeah it is good
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  yeah yeah you're the one that told me to watch it yeah yeah well so uh so yeah
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  hopefully although people are like oh make more like um no don't no you don't
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  have to make more there not everything has to have like sequels while you're at
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  it don't make Chernobyl season 2 I'm just putting that out there as well it's
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  okay to just make a great series and then just leave yeah you can have a a
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  complete story that just wraps itself up and then you don't have to go and ruin
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  it by trying to make more of it yeah don't make a sequel of this one go and
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  make more norsman or yes give give a lot of money to the person who wrote the
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  Queen's Gambit and say what else he can you come up with yeah make something
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  else yeah well he wrote this a long time ago didn't he I don't know like this
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  based off a book from the 60s I thought oh okay that might be true I could be
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  wrong I've done zero research as usual so have no idea zero research is what
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  we're about on this podcast if anyone's expecting anything else um it was real
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  sorry I was off by 20 years it published in first published in ' 83 okay we've
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  been off by more so never mind so don't beat yourself certainly not the most
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  ill-informed we' ever been um but also the author I don't
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  think we can give him more money and ask him to write more cuz he died in ' 84
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  okay he wrote he wrote the Queen's Gambit TV show for Netflix in 1984 and
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  then killed himself that's [ __ ] foren thinking is it yeah and he is geek of the
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  week he's not there's another geek of the week and you know
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  it but I don't I don't want to accept it we'll get to that I I learned something
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  about uh about a character I feel like I I knew a different story of this but
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  I've learned this week the true story of how guy brush through wood got his
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  name and just something to do with a paintbrush
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  the originally before they had a name for him they were just calling him guyy
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  as in the guy from the right main character the guy and then the guy does
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  this yes and then when they were doing the art for it Steve pel the guy who did
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  the art would export them the the artwork from um daint which is an old uh
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  you know drawing program uh and those the the kind of the files were called
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  brushes and so he would export files called guy brush and send those over to
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  um Ron Gilbert and then over time they just started calling him guy brush
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  and fantastic then they were like well [ __ ] it his name's Guy
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  brush so that's that's literally just that's just how he got his name didn't I
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  yout to come up with a with a name or anything like that it's just yeah I mean
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  and it explains why there's no other guy brushes hanging around yeah right I
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  don't know if you recall Matt but guy brush threp put had something to do with
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  you and I becoming friends cuz of my fan fiction that came later and that
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  cemented you as you know like as a really special part of my life but um I
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  feel like we met at the Henry Lawson club we did we met then but we didn't
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  really like I don't think I would been I was probably way too drunk to have a
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  conversation like a normal person yeah um then the next time I met you after
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  that well you were with Gordon right and
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  I knew Gordon superficially mhm but in between the last time I'd met him he had
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  grown himself a ponytail oh sure right
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  and uh you and I were just standing off to the side at somewhere something some
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  party or something and I saw Gordon's ponytail and I said with that point
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  ponytail Gordon looks like guy brush Three Wood right and you looked at me
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  like oh you know about guy brush Three Wood eh all right you know about gu all
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  right we can be friends yeah like this guy and that's how easy it is yeah hey
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  listeners if you don't know who guy brush 3PO is cuz I didn't explain who
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  guy brush threo was when I toldra about him yeah I feel like if you
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  don't mean he's a guy we went to school with that's how he got his name Ron Gilbert named
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  him Ron Gilbert is his dad if you don't know who guy brush 3PO
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  is Google it and then and then play the game mate I mean if that's all we got if
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  that's all we're going to do to explain things we could just say that about
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  every geek of the week this week [ __ ] Google it we and we used to take great
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  pains to try and give context for things well actually that's not true for a long
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  time we didn't and people said you talking about give Contex people like
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  you you I don't know what the [ __ ] you guys were talking about this week and we
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  go okay we've gone back to cuz we wouldn't even say it we'd just be like
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  hey did you see the oh yeah I saw that oh yeah and then we just launch into it
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  like everyone knew what we were talking about can you believe when the thing happened no I
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  couldn't speaking
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  of you see Jean guy the new antagonist in the Mandan I I had to look really
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  closely before I saw him I must admit how closely are people looking at very
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  close had a show they're watching people were tweeting it as if they were just
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  and like as if they were watching the show and then they just saw it and then
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  quickly snapped a pick and then tweeted it and I was like well you obviously
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  rewound it to get that pick like you stopped watching in the show to take re
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  how old are you Matt yeah they sat there and watched in real
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  time as went backwards I did not see him when I was watching that episode even
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  with some of the pictures that people I was looking at I still couldn't see him
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  once again no context listeners oh yeah there was a crew
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  member in the background of a shot of this week's Mandalorian if you watched
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  it in the first couple of days you would have seen him if you watch it now he's
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  been removed he's gone yeah you might not have noticed him CU we didn't but
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  some people did and then you could have gone back and seen that he was there but
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  not anymore he's gone he's been fired took him yeah took him out back and shot
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  yeah yeah I he's our geek of the week if
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  you were Dave Fon right or even John favro and you were just finished you
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  just finished uploading episode 5 season two mandal you think Fabro just sits
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  there uploads the Netflix week by week
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  whatever happens right delivering it on a [ __ ] beta Max tape I don't know um
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  patting each other on the back going there is so much to talk about in this
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  week's episode I mean we have we have dropped
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  [ __ ] there's another we're not supposed to talk about the new episode
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  oh it's too soon I need to Grand by the
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  way he is very Grand and then everyone's talking about Jean's guy yeah Jean guy I
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  ass that yeah yeah that's where I was going yeah well actually you know what I
• 26:37
  I mean we won't spoil things uh but I didn't notice much chitchat I thought I
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  had had something spoiled for the latest episode and I guess technically I did
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  but there was a lot in this episode and not a lot of it was spoiled so I was
• 26:52
  pretty impressed yeah me too me too I read something I was like God damn it
• 26:57
  any point watching this now oh yeah yeah yeah we've got our tradition with
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  Mandalorian now is that we watch it Saturday morning when we wake up and yep
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  we like that means it comes out Thursday night here so there's like a whole day
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  and a bit like a day and a half where I could be spoiled you know what I mean
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  I'm exposing myself to to spoilers by being on the internet and
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  surprisingly like I don't know whether they social media is taking steps to
• 27:26
  suppress spoilers now or something but there's like there's pretty I guarantee
• 27:30
  you they're not Matt there are things in the latest episode of Mandalorian that
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  I'm like how the [ __ ] was nobody talking about this all week so well I tell you
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  what you could beep out what I said then so that so that nothing I say I'm not
• 27:42
  sure it's going to matter too much but but I can you if you want yeah I mean
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  you didn't you didn't say what the name
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  was no but I did say someone else's
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  name people people AR going to know who that is that's that's the other thing
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  although Matt we know who he is from a completely different [ __ ] set of
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  things yeah I'm trying to be F him but
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  the way we know him is not canon yeah no I know they brought him back in a
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  different way what I don't like again we're not going to talk about this no spoilers the
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  implications in this week's episode tie a little too
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  closely to the prequels yeah I'm hoping that what they did this week is just
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  like I liked it I really enjoyed the episode um but I hope it was just like a
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  here's a little there's a little taste of that and then maybe we'll dip back
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  into that you know sometime in the future in future season a little bit but
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  I don't want it to be all about that stuff all the time yeah because without
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  giving anything away what I love about the Mandalorian is sure there's a couple
• 28:52
  of Easter eggs in there here and there but mostly it is a completely
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  independent story yeah it's not character I'm [ __ ] sick of seeing on
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  screen yeah it is not the Clone Wars 2 yes I'm still just very confused by one
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  thing the Mandalorian is I don't know who the Jedi are or what they do or
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  anything like this he was alive when the Jedi were around fighting a [ __ ]
• 29:15
  War who who were the who were the really good soldiers in the Gulf
• 29:22
  War I don't think any of them had superpowers Dan no if they had superpowers
• 29:29
  if you hate the troops that's for another podcast all right you can do
• 29:33
  multiple we hate the troops GM later like he doesn't know what the force is I
• 29:38
  find that odd I think it's supposed to be that these guys are so out of
• 29:44
  Rim that yeah Fair okay that the kind of like the small Gatherings on corusant
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  that maybe seemed like a big deal to us who only focused on that little story
• 29:57
  it's a big Galaxy out there of people that weren't even affected by that and I
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  suppose in the even in the prime of the Jedi those um racist aliens were like
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  have you ever encountered the Jedi before and and shortly after the the
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  prime of the Jedi you still have [ __ ] high ranking Generals in the Imperial
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  Army scoffing at Darth Vader and calling it an an
• 30:24
  religion yeah okay okay it's I think it' be like if I
• 30:29
  started saying I was a druid you guys would be like all right fine a
• 30:35
  druid good on you until you started choking people out with with magic
• 30:39
  powers and I'll be like tell me more about druidism Dan that's right I'm just
• 30:43
  not doors have you given any thought to druidism druidism
• 30:49
  druidry druidry but the other thing I fun about we about this last episode which we're
• 30:56
  not going to talk about is I spend a lot of time talking about nothing going I
• 31:00
  didn't really like it I don't know I loved it I thought it was really good I
• 31:05
  was really surprised when you said you didn't like it and I thought maybe you
• 31:07
  were joking Luke but you really didn't like it no I really didn't like this one
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  okay and I think I think it is because it ties in a lot closely with the pre
• 31:17
  don't get me wrong Luke I [ __ ] hated that I hated that and I don't
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  particularly like I thought it was well done I thought it here's what I do like
• 31:26
  about it right I mean for starter Mandalorian switches between a Weston
• 31:31
  and a Samurai movie and this one was a Samurai movie for sure yeah absolutely
• 31:35
  so [ __ ] Samurai um well that and there were bits of it that were very
• 31:39
  like uh very you know Sergio Leon like
• 31:44
  the the shootout type stuff I think it was kind of a bit of both in this
• 31:48
  episode even yeah but don't forget that Akira kurasawa ripped off Leon's movies
• 31:54
  to make his Samurai movies so it's almost like they're doing homage of him
• 31:58
  doing an homage of him and then George Lucas ripped off Kira
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  sour Star Wars is just golden Fortress again yeah yeah and [ __ ] filon and um
• 32:08
  Fabro are just [ __ ] jacking each other off just going the circle is
• 32:12
  complete quite sad that there's only three more episodes now don't say that
• 32:17
  [ __ ] I don't want to know that I got say filon is like got having gone from cuz
• 32:22
  he talks on the chef show about how he was doing um 2D animation and he just
• 32:29
  was like like they were looking for someone to do wait he got no he got a
• 32:32
  phone call from somebody who said George Lucas would like to meet you and he was
• 32:37
  like oh yeah sure ready would yeah who is this and they're like no no no George
• 32:41
  luas would like to have a word with you he's like oh yeah sure I'll come right
• 32:44
  down yeah yeah whatever and then I said it like you said five minutes of them
• 32:48
  going no I'm [ __ ] serious George L he was like okay yep yep yep and so he went
• 32:53
  in and they met and he said like nothing's going to come of this like I'm
• 32:58
  not like George is like are we're doing a 3D version of the Clone Wars and blah
• 33:02
  blah and he was like sure and he was like throwing ideas at him cuz he knows
• 33:06
  [ __ ] tons about Star Wars and then he was chatting with George and then he
• 33:10
  said he left and he was like well that was wonderful like what a great
• 33:13
  experience that will probably go nowhere but I'm really glad I did that and then
• 33:17
  apparently George's assistant opened the door and said yeah you you're hired and
• 33:20
  he was like what wow what and then he did Clone Wars he learned how to do 3D
• 33:27
  stuff doing that yeah and then now favro comes to him and says we're doing a live
• 33:31
  action one and you know do you want to direct some episode he's like I don't
• 33:34
  know how to do that like this is also this is going to go nowhere and now he's
• 33:39
  like that episode was [ __ ] fantastic like visually conceptually everything
• 33:43
  like that's what I love about it when when you look I mean I love Star Wars
• 33:47
  don't get me wrong the old Star Wars but when you look at Ralph mcc's conceptual
• 33:51
  art for it you're like well it doesn't look like this you know right this does
• 33:56
  this show looks like a [ __ ] painting yeah so Dave Fon my [ __ ] hat is off
• 34:03
  to you mate you are [ __ ] great yeah except don't put any more stuff from
• 34:10
  your old kids cartoon in this don't do
• 34:16
  it I love just a little details though this is two weeks ago we can talk about
• 34:21
  Katie sack off right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yep just when he's he finally
• 34:26
  thinks he's found other men Mandalorian and he's like and then they just take
• 34:30
  their helmets off and he's like oh what the [ __ ] and they're like no mate we are
• 34:34
  the mandalorians you're some other thing yeah you're an a cult so I like
• 34:40
  interesting I wanted to ask you about that Luke does that kind of um I guess
• 34:47
  uh sync up with what you thought you knew about the mandalorians these days
• 34:52
  cuz this whole taking your helmet off thing was was like that was a new thing
• 34:56
  to me so the most I've most experience I've had with mandans was a set of
• 35:01
  novels and a wild drunken KN back in the I was married to one in the '90s
• 35:07
  that's it and it was about Mandalorian being hired to train the clone troopers
• 35:13
  oh yeah okay don't you just need to train one clone trooper and then clone
• 35:18
  him yeah and then just clone him train him
• 35:22
  first these wasting money then him they
• 35:27
  lost the yeah no they if you remember even in the movie you saw them different
• 35:33
  ages and growing up they were just yeah yeah but that's yeah and M day had the
• 35:39
  helmets off half the time mhm right yeah I think that was something that was
• 35:43
  coming here that's why cuz D Jango Fett was taking his helmet off yeah so mate
• 35:49
  his head was in it Matt he was beheaded yeah no but he's
• 35:56
  chatting with f never did I I wonder whether when you look at that
• 36:00
  scene and he picks up that helmet it's like is there a head in there or are you
• 36:04
  literally just holding the helmet I think I think you can see in
• 36:10
  the shadow of it falling out when Ma Wu cuts it off and I think I think I read a
• 36:16
  thing that said that that's intent that George Lucas intentionally was like the
• 36:19
  head's not in there other I guarantee it they went back and
• 36:24
  added that because the executives watching it are going is that little boy
• 36:27
  holding his seven head George was like
• 36:32
  maybe it's a bit intense yeah what if he
• 36:35
  says what the when he picks it
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  up uh yeah the I going to say oh yeah gu
• 36:45
  Katie sackoff is playing the character that she also played in The Clone Wars
• 36:49
  so she's also from the Clone Wars or
• 36:54
  Rebels okay I didn't know that and I liked it better when I didn't know that
• 37:00
  yeah sorry I mean I like Katie sack off she's you know she's the Nerds sci-fi
• 37:05
  nerds wet dream she's cool she got a YouTube channel she's quite I know quite
• 37:10
  entertaining certainly is her and Trisha heler just [ __ ] having
• 37:15
  Adventures [ __ ] I'd watch that I would watch that I me I have it's
• 37:21
  calleda but you know pornhub.com didn't like each
• 37:26
  other KY jack [Laughter]
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  off so while we're totally still in the main show and inser Mando I guess at
• 37:40
  this point yeah I probably Mando yeah yeah Star Wars Star News Star Wars news geek of the
• 37:47
  week yeah he's gone David PR has Vader
• 37:53
  finally died there's a lot of people who have portrayed Darth Vader I mean Darth
• 37:57
  vad is like the puppet of Jaba the heart you know there's one guy doing the eyes
• 38:04
  there one guy wiggling the arms and there's one guy in the tail doing the
• 38:07
  little movements on the tail Darth vad well even they had like those actually
• 38:13
  like three different I think there was like three actors even in the first Star
• 38:17
  Wars movie like one did the fight scen one did just the
• 38:21
  walking David PR is famously known as the guy who did all of it the body even
• 38:26
  though he didn't he certainly wanted people to know that
• 38:30
  he was he was the main guy that did he certainly if you listen to him was led
• 38:35
  to believe him and no other man was the actor portraying Darth
• 38:41
  Vader yeah he's died was he 85 I think
• 38:45
  or something he was aged when he passed away this week which I don't know for
• 38:50
  some reason I just feel like he he should have been older I agree yeah I
• 38:55
  agree I thought he was older I met David prow when I was a
• 38:58
  young lad in England he was the Green Cross man I don't remember it uh at all
• 39:05
  but I do have a little little badge that he gave me somewhere that is magnificent
• 39:09
  in fact I probably don't have it anymore CU I'm in a different country now but
• 39:12
  well maybe David PR is known to us and
• 39:17
  to nerds throughout the world as Darth
• 39:20
  Vader yes yeah but he is a bodybuilder and he is very prolific in the
• 39:26
  bodybuilding industry mhm he plays the hunky dude in several
• 39:32
  other movies including Stanley Cub's A Clockwork Orange where he plays the
• 39:37
  musly guy yeah yeah so he did other stuff but he's
• 39:42
  definitely he did do other Darth Vader Darth Vader and he used to sign his name
• 39:46
  David prous is Darth Vader he did yeah yeah in fact right up until the end I
• 39:51
  assume because he was adamant he had very well publicized falling out with
• 39:58
  George Lucas in uh in recent years because George was like stop telling
• 40:01
  people that you are Darth Vader and he was like I will not I will
• 40:07
  not stop telling people that yeah there was a documentary about him um I think
• 40:13
  2015 and about that sort of Fallout and the fact that he didn't get to be Darth
• 40:18
  Vader when the mask came off don't watch it not good just do not watch it um
• 40:25
  wanting to film a star war scene and try
• 40:28
  to turn out this's lifelong dream to film this and we asked Lucas film if we
• 40:34
  could do it and they said no what meanies they are like do do they
• 40:39
  recreate the scene where instead of Sebastian Shaw it's it's David PR oh wow
• 40:45
  yes and they they actually asked Lucas Lucas fil like can we actually film this
• 40:50
  and show it have gone no yeah and it's funny because Lucas have actually always
• 40:56
  been very very open about fan films yeah just not this one well this I
• 41:02
  think it's different cuz it's not a fan film this is something that they're
• 41:05
  going out to sell so can I see like if I I want to go into YouTube right now and
• 41:10
  look at this does this exist um well no cuz you only see the
• 41:16
  sort of you don't see the film playing out but you hear
• 41:19
  it but the documentary is called I am your
• 41:25
  father father words are they no but yeah
• 41:31
  to me it was just it was more about the the director trying to get to film of
• 41:36
  Star Wars scene and yeah some of it was actually quite interesting when it wasn't about
• 41:43
  that and the fact that cuz it was David PR was the one who in the magazine came
• 41:47
  out or new said yeah I'm Dar I'm Luke's father before that's right Empire came
• 41:53
  out yeah there's an old article where he spoiled a whole bunch of [ __ ] yes and
• 41:56
  it's but evidently they go through and they worked out no he didn't actually
• 42:00
  say that ah and that was just confusion and yeah so it is interesting for parts
• 42:06
  of it but yeah annoys me and I'll never watch it Luke I've I've just gone on to
• 42:11
  YouTube to try and find the clip that you just mentioned and you're quite
• 42:15
  right I don't think it exists although listeners please write in because I'm I
• 42:18
  feel like it would have been passed around if and would someone would have
• 42:21
  edited it into a version of Return of the Jedi 100% yeah I think if they had
• 42:27
  have filmed that they probably would have faced legal cuz he did ask so then
• 42:31
  if they did film it and it got leaked they'd probably be I'm surprised
• 42:35
  nobody's deep faked it yet to be honest what I did find though Mt and you
• 42:40
  mentioned this in a throwaway comment I ignored it although I I did have
• 42:43
  follow-up questions and and now I've got even more that I've seen it can you tell
• 42:48
  us what Green Cross is please oh um so
• 42:53
  it's like well I'm going to have to Google a little bit okay David PR Green
• 42:58
  Cross code man yeah um a TV show I guess Green Cross a brand
• 43:04
  created by the National Road Safety Committee to raise awareness of
• 43:07
  pedestrian Road Safety in the United Kingdom so so it's it's David
• 43:12
  prow wearing essentially it's like Green
• 43:15
  Lantern except it's green Crossman yes costume uh telling kids when it's safe
• 43:22
  to cross the road yeah don't don't cross you know look both ways don't cross when
• 43:26
  you can't see what's coming I'm watching he told a kid when
• 43:32
  Fant child he said don't cross the road Maddie here's a badge and I said thanks Mr
• 43:37
  Vader I didn't and he was like he's like I'm not legally allowed
• 43:43
  to mention that my um and also this 100 m back
• 43:49
  up my understanding is that I had no [ __ ] idea who he was I'm sure you
• 43:53
  didn't other than oh it's the Green Cross man exactly and even if my parents
• 43:58
  had said that's South V I would have been like um no it's not yeah but you
• 44:02
  got a cool badge you would have been excited it's I'll have to find it it's
• 44:06
  got a picture of him as the green I I feel there needs to be an episode of
• 44:11
  David prow and me coming up that you
• 44:15
  need to ride all right all right I'm going to make a note of that
• 44:22
  mhm uh I watched something finally last night and I watched
• 44:27
  I watched a pal Drome oh wow I watched
• 44:30
  tenant you watched 1991 how was it I here's the
• 44:35
  thing I know it's been out it's been out for for a while now but has enough have
• 44:42
  enough people seen it that I can freely talk about it I don't want to I don't
• 44:45
  want to upet anybody cuz technically it's not out and available yet I I well
• 44:50
  you can say if you're liked it I I liked it a lot yeah I really liked good good
• 44:55
  good good good I really liked it I need to watch it again
• 45:01
  because we're watching it and Jenna was like what's the deal with I was like I'm
• 45:04
  not sure and I'm not going to figure it out on this watch so I'm I'll let you
• 45:09
  know after I watch it again like I'm not going to figure that out before the end
• 45:12
  of the movie I guarantee same thing happened to me cuz H and I saw it at the
• 45:16
  same time but in two different countries you were watching it forwards and she
• 45:19
  was watching it backwards yeah oh man imagine that yeah we were in different
• 45:23
  time zones but we did watch it we did make sure we watch it at the the same
• 45:27
  time but um she rang me straight after and she was like did you understand that
• 45:32
  I'm like no but understanding it is not the point yeah I I understood enough of
• 45:37
  it to kind of follow what was going on but there were bits where like I I feel
• 45:44
  like it's like Interstellar where Interstellar I I actually didn't like
• 45:48
  Interstellar as much the first time on on a rewatch I liked it more because I'm
• 45:52
  like oh they did set that stuff up a bit and I got more from it the second time
• 45:56
  this I I I really liked it and I feel like I probably will end up loving it
• 46:01
  after I watch it again because there are
• 46:05
  things that I figured out ahead of time
• 46:08
  and things that I didn't yes agree so you like oh okay I figured this out
• 46:14
  Christopher Nolan all right all right yeah he's like even those things paid
• 46:19
  off pretty well you can think about that all you want mate I'm gonna [ __ ] get
• 46:22
  you later yeah exactly this is a lot of I mean
• 47:29
  primer meets braid primer if they were actually doing
• 47:34
  stuff when they were going backwards yes that's right instead of just Prim
• 47:39
  they're in in the Box yeah in this they're out they're doing stuff and
• 47:42
  interacting with the world and you see [ __ ] firing bullets places so that
• 47:47
  when somebody gets there that bullet will go through them it's [ __ ] insane
• 47:51
  and they yeah you like you see something you just you're watching it and then you
• 47:56
  go that's a bit weird what was that and then and then later on it you see like
• 48:01
  like like the you know it's a it's a palindrome but it [ __ ] is because you
• 48:07
  basically see scenes twice and then you go oh that's what that is [ __ ]
• 48:12
  awesome giving anything away do you subscribe to the fatherson
• 48:17
  hypothesis the fatherson hypothesis I'm
• 48:21
  not sure h no Luke doesn't no
• 48:27
  I'm not sure is there something about time being linear it's about Robert
• 48:33
  patson oh okay being the little boy oh I
• 48:38
  hadn't even thought of that hadn't even thought of that I mean that's what
• 48:44
  Reddit thinks I'm not sure it would make a difference but I guess maybe yeah
• 48:48
  maybe because he has he does say you know that it's just beginning for you
• 48:53
  yeah yeah yeah fair I mean yeah it could be or it could just be someone else
• 48:57
  or it could be nothing yeah yeah movie just tell me what I meant to know don't
• 49:03
  make me think what I give you money for I have a feeling you wouldn't like this
• 49:07
  movie you would not mate if you thought
• 49:12
  uh Inception was pretentiously ambiguous you are not going to like this [ __ ] man
• 49:17
  this is the most Christopher Nola movie there are there's literally bits where
• 49:21
  where it's like I we're going to explain that his two sentences did you were you
• 49:26
  listening to the dialogue that was very low under the music that's very loud
• 49:31
  yeah if you didn't because if you didn't hear that sentence he said you're not
• 49:34
  going understand this bit yeah yeah I I I'm I don't like him as a director
• 49:40
  really what about his Batman do you like his
• 49:44
  Batman I I saw the second one and the last
• 49:48
  one saw them once they were okay we talked about the fact that you haven't
• 49:52
  seen Batman Begins [ __ ] off oh I know it's so weird I still haven't seen Batman
• 49:58
  if you like Batman at all you owe it to yourself to watch Batman Begins yeah
• 50:02
  Batman Begins is great yeah I S sort of the other two not not the same probably
• 50:07
  the same they're not the same see now I want Luke to watch tenant really badly
• 50:13
  May fine I I will watch tenant and we'll see what happens all right I almost okay
• 50:18
  Matt would you be open to this we've been talking about this for
• 50:23
  years we watch tenet together and we
• 50:27
  record a commentary as we go okay and Luke can ask any questions or make any
• 50:32
  comments that he wants throughout the film that's the thing though that's it's
• 50:39
  difficult to this there's no time to stop and have a chat about what's going
• 50:44
  on in this movie because like there are a couple things where we would like if
• 50:49
  you go what was it what do you think that and it's like [ __ ] I missed
• 50:52
  something yeah oh great now I'm in the future because it's it's just so dense
• 50:57
  with with [ __ ] it's just but yeah look I will go
• 51:03
  out I will watch it this week I'll report back next week and tell you how
• 51:08
  terrible I thought it was imag imagine who knows I might like it imagine it's
• 51:13
  now his favorite movie and now Luke's doing a little [ __ ] marathon of
• 51:18
  Christopher noan movies cuz he's misjudged him this whole time yeah no I
• 51:22
  haven't I've seen like two of his movies just recently and I was not impressed
• 51:27
  have you seen momento cuz that's that's still my favorite have you seen
• 51:33
  pimento yeah have you seen that little thing inside the olive have you seen
• 51:37
  that it's [ __ ] great it is delicious mate but you know
• 51:43
  you know in U Interstellar did this too you know that scene in interstellar
• 51:46
  where they're talking they're having a conversation about how time works on all
• 51:50
  the planets and if you missed it you missed it you're not going to know
• 51:54
  you're not going to understand know why one of them now old man exactly imagine
• 51:59
  that times a thousand and that's this [ __ ] movie and not only that they do
• 52:03
  explain it but they don't let you absorb the math enough to really orientate
• 52:10
  yourself within the time space continuum they don't explain it explain it they
• 52:14
  just say it and then that's got to be good enough for you and there's all this
• 52:18
  sub subliminal stuff going on like um what's your mate Matt Han Zimmer
• 52:24
  deciding that every beat is a year you know he he didn't do this
• 52:31
  one by the way oh who is oh this Oh you mean yeah yeah yeah yeah Oh you mean
• 52:36
  interstella yeah yeah yeah interstella like that's what I mean like there's
• 52:39
  just all these layers of like things to tell you that time is passing but if you
• 52:46
  missed the metric you're [ __ ] yes and with this it's like
• 52:52
  there's a lot you need to know if you're actually going to piece this all together
• 52:57
  and yeah like I said you it Demands a rewatch which I'm fine with but I can
• 53:01
  see some people wouldn't be fine with it I was explain it to you like some movies
• 53:06
  do I didn't know you were either going to say this was your favorite
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  Christopher Nolan movie or you were going to say no he's gone too far I hate
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  it I wasn't sure which where you want to go I don't want my hand held completely
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  but I also don't want it to be something where I I shouldn't have to watch a
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  movie multiple times to understand it yeah how many times have you seen Spies Like
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  Us I understood that the very first time you love watching movies multiple times
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  [ __ ] you I feel like I don't feel like I I have to watch it again I want to
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  because I want to understand it but I don't I mean I guess you wouldn't have
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  to because even I need to rewatch even just the [ __ ] opening scene with what
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  I know now is going I'm sure I'm going to get way more out of it like just the
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  opening scene of this movie tenant once you know what's going on
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  I I feel like I'm going to watch that again and be like oh okay like it's just
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  after this conversation I know what I'm going to watch next straight after this
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  podcast begins Stripes I think you're going to see Spies Like
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  Us if you're going to watch an old lady's spy movie at least watch top
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  secret with Val Kilmer that is you've seen that right Luke top secret I don't
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  think I have okay forget Stripes no no don't forget Stripes but certainly
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  forget Spies Like Us top secret you will thank me
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  okay when when I'm out picking up my copy of tenant I'll pick up that as well
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  when you add Blockbuster one other thing I'll say
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  about this it had a lot less action than I was expecting it's actually not that
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  action heavy I think unless I'm remembering it wrong it's a lot of cool
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  [ __ ] but not a lot of you know like um you know incept has like a lot of set
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  pieces this has but it's not not like not in the same way I don't I mean I
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  felt there's no um I guess there's
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  no hallway fight scene that just is just like [ __ ] BL your mind it's more like
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  subtle stuff maybe I want to talk but it's it's all
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  spoilers okay
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  later okay oh I I don't say I'm just going to say there's one fight that
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  happens twice yes yes that that actually that's the bit
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  when I was like actually out loud going a like yeah yeah well done Christopher
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  no basically standing up and applauding in the cinema yeah like [ __ ] man all
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  right I wonder if that's that's the thing that he made the movie to do yes
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  yes like he was just like saying to his brother like mate how about this
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  yeah yeah this yeah this is even nonlinear for you
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  mate yeah anyway great
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  movie recommend it who has been playing
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  Civ 6 me so you were talking about it right
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  yeah and I I was telling you how much I don't like it no I know I know I know
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  and then I was like I want I want to try and like it Dan's been talking about it
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  I'm curious so I watched a couple of Let's Plays mhm while I was on the
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  treadmill while I was on the treadmill yeah yeah yeah okay okay Tre cuz I'm
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  just going that would be one of the most boring let's plays ever SI no not not
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  when you're trying to learn the game because the thing with Civ is right I've
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  played Civ except they change things all the time in each game and I don't know I
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  actually don't know what the [ __ ] difference is between Civ five and six
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  well not all the differences you know what I'm saying and there are quite a
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  lot of so I'm probably I'm probably playing Civ 6 wrong is what I was
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  thinking and I was there's stuff about it that I was like oh [ __ ] I didn't even
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  know that so I watched these Let's Plays it is very complex some of the stuff
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  with diplomacy TR it is and if it's completely different to the last one
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  that you played that was complex it can be confusing cuz I haven't read the
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  manuals or anything I just load up the game and I'm like oh yeah let's just do
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  the same thing I usually do in Civ and which is is wrong now um so I watched a
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  couple Let's Plays and then I I've been yeah I've been playing on my iPad and I
• 57:27
  really like it okay that's good I'm glad you do I know you don't but uh been I've
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  been enjoying it look you can't say I didn't try man like I really gave this
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  game a go what what is it that you don't like about it if you can if you can put
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  it into words it's not that I it's not that I don't like it okay I can put it
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  into words Luke you said it it's a complex game that's fine I think it's
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  too complex I I think I think
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  always because you get up to a stage where it's just oh just one more turn
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  just one more finish this war it's come up yeah there's a game I
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  play came up you are victorious so I've won but you still can keep playing and I
• 59:10
  just that's the worst function you want to keep playing yeah sure [ __ ] it now there's no
• 59:15
  end no there's no reason to keep playing it's just like real life
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  yeah I I I did another play through of well not play through I I I put another
• 59:27
  game on of uh this war of mine because I find this I find that game very
• 59:33
  rewarding whever you're doing well but
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  it is once you start not doing well you may as well just turn it off yeah it go
• 59:44
  it goes downhill very quick man I was I was doing great I had three people we
• 59:50
  had worked out systems one was great at bartering one was great at um one had
• 59:54
  like like like pack for the Scavenging and one was great at building in the house and
• 1:00:01
  everyone was doing their bit and then
• 1:00:03
  one got shot and died MH and then that's
• 1:00:08
  it I can't I can't play anymore the hardest part for me in that game was
• 1:00:13
  working out that not everyone out there is going to try and kill me you can talk
• 1:00:19
  but see that's what I remembered right I remembered you saying that the last
• 1:00:24
  playthrough I did when I was in the the supermarket and I heard guys in the Next
• 1:00:28
  Room and I remember you going not everyone kills you and I was like you
• 1:00:32
  know what I can go in there I can just start looting my I'm dead I have been
• 1:00:36
  shot in the [ __ ] face why not everyone there are still some people and
• 1:00:41
  it's a bit luck of the draw mhm it it is the it is the modern
• 1:00:47
  the 2020 equivalent of dying of dentry
• 1:00:51
  in the Oregon tra and it is demoralizing when you
• 1:00:57
  start to lose in that game it's not just like any a normal game where you get a
• 1:01:00
  bit sad because it's like I'm not going to win the game it's like [ __ ] like
• 1:01:04
  oh you [ __ ] starved to death oh you like those kids were they dead now as
• 1:01:08
  well that's right they had to eat their dog now they've died whose baby died and
• 1:01:13
  it was like [ __ ] I just can't do this so
• 1:01:17
  so dire why you hate me game why do you
• 1:01:21
  hate me so much why am I playing this yeah
• 1:01:26
  as you're booting it back up why am I still playing this try again why have I
• 1:01:31
  installed the little ones DLC say [ __ ] I didn't do that I'm you you
• 1:01:36
  have that right Luke yes is is that just the same except it's just kids oh no no
• 1:01:42
  it just being that that came I never played a game with the kids in it okay
• 1:01:47
  cuz it's just know how you just start up random and yeah they just never rocked
• 1:01:52
  up in any of the games where I would have ended up killing them
• 1:01:56
  oh they would not have survived no I would have got rid of them very quickly
• 1:02:02
  yeah I mean just the might be able to sell them someone who is wounded and
• 1:02:08
  you've only got enough food for two and you're like should we just not give this
• 1:02:12
  guy any food is it better that he just dies and you're like why am I playing
• 1:02:16
  this game I'm dering no enjoyment from this but then it also it's the whole
• 1:02:21
  idea is just to make you think cuz what the what you're playing that game and go
• 1:02:25
  through is people actually experience that makes it worse not better yeah I
• 1:02:30
  know brutal yeah whereas I'm wor we're worried about where to put my second
• 1:02:36
  Xbox yeah well I mean this is this is already on social media so I'm going to
• 1:02:42
  announce it on the podcast I suppose but uh ooh drum roll yeah so I I wonder if
• 1:02:49
  my opinion of things like the little ones is going to change when I have a
• 1:02:52
  little one cuz we're having a baby yeah there's whole category of jokes we've
• 1:02:58
  loved to make for the last 20 years that I think is just off the cards now it's
• 1:03:03
  just it's just off well I mean at the moment I still think it's funny I guess
• 1:03:09
  maybe you won't you won't and I I think the deal was when one of us has a child
• 1:03:15
  the pedophile drops just have to have to stop I mean certainly in front of my
• 1:03:21
  child but uh yeah yeah so I mean at the moment I'm
• 1:03:27
  still finding big congratulations thank you very much you made a human well done
• 1:03:33
  the most complex of creatures you didn't even start with
• 1:03:38
  something simple like a slug you just went to the human being no no I mean I
• 1:03:43
  built a desk first and then and then you
• 1:03:46
  made a a path Al to your house I saw you that I guess I would have to do some
• 1:03:52
  calculations to figure out if I did do that first [Laughter]
• 1:03:58
  Cu uh we didn't realize at first um that we had successfully created a human so
• 1:04:05
  cuz he'd been doing it wrong for so many years yeah exactly right exactly I read
• 1:04:09
  a book actually and uh it's called where did I a picture a picture book it was
• 1:04:13
  really eye opening yeah yeah eye opening
• 1:04:17
  and vagina opening yeah yeah who knew that's what that was for yeah I know
• 1:04:23
  like honey I think you need to turn around
• 1:04:28
  no no the other long ways you know what speaking of that and
• 1:04:34
  I do want to get back to your unborn child soon mat I do I do have more
• 1:04:39
  congratulations and other questions but sure Doug Bane you guys know Doug crazy
• 1:04:45
  Doug yes yeah's friend Doug yes he he said to me once you know when you're looking at
• 1:04:52
  yourself in the mirror and your image is
• 1:04:55
  flipped reverse of what you are and I'm like yeah yeah yeah miror image yeah
• 1:05:01
  he's like why isn't it also flipped that
• 1:05:06
  way and I didn't know and I think my brain kind of knows
• 1:05:13
  why but I couldn't explain why yeah I I'm I'm not sure there is a reason I'm
• 1:05:20
  not sure the look on both your faces now is the look I had for about 45 minutes as
• 1:05:26
  I no no no it's very simple I can explain this to you and I could I was like yeah
• 1:05:32
  yeah yeah that's interesting well hang on no that doesn't
• 1:05:38
  work no yeah no I don't know but on a spoon
• 1:05:43
  you're upside down on a spoon it makes
• 1:05:46
  no that's true cuz of the but so it might be the way that it's the curve cuz
• 1:05:53
  it makes it makes some kind of olcal sense why your left is right and your
• 1:06:00
  right is left cuz it's an imprint but then why doesn't it work the other
• 1:06:06
  way no no hold on it's it's showing you exactly how the lights hitting it from
• 1:06:12
  you so your right side is yeah you're right yeah yeah it's just an exact
• 1:06:17
  straight across it's not swapping at all exactly what it can see
• 1:06:23
  yeah there I'm not yeah see it is easy get dug that's fine Luke's figured it
• 1:06:29
  out y this is why we should have another podcast where Luke explains [ __ ] I feel
• 1:06:32
  like that would y [ __ ] another podcast this podcast should just be that it
• 1:06:36
  practically is this week it has been here's the I think one of the week next
• 1:06:41
  week Luke's gonna explain tenet to us yeah I think one of the weaknesses of
• 1:06:46
  this show not that I would change this show for the world that this show is
• 1:06:49
  just as CH having a chat every week and that's what it always has been but one
• 1:06:53
  thing that every they always say about podcast is choose a focus and we have not done
• 1:06:59
  that almost 400 episodes focused on nothing no and it's funny because I I
• 1:07:06
  listen to No podcasts like ours I don't listen to any [ __ ] chat podcast I
• 1:07:11
  only listen to research scripted sure and I'll skip episodes if
• 1:07:17
  it's not about specific the history of
• 1:07:22
  the Western Roman Empire 400 ad to 1500 ad you know what I mean it's like
• 1:07:28
  somebody's gone that's what I want to do my podcast I'm up to episode 400 now you
• 1:07:34
  know what I mean I think I think with us and people have actually told us in fast
• 1:07:38
  it's like we're their their friends and we're just sitting around having a chat
• 1:07:41
  sure well that's why we started doing this is because people said we [ __ ] on
• 1:07:45
  at parties and people be like you guys are pretty entertaining to listen to
• 1:07:49
  yeah I mean I I've had feedback from listeners who have said I'm actually not
• 1:07:54
  into nerdy [ __ ] at all but i' really just like to listen to how you talk about
• 1:08:00
  things listeners happy to oblig and also happy to just have a chat with my
• 1:08:06
  friends every week so whatever yeah exactly we doing this without you
• 1:08:09
  listening if other people like this that's a bonus and if you want to go to P people
• 1:08:15
  who really like some cash for it that would be even more of a bonus yeah so I
• 1:08:19
  can because Matt has a child on the way now right through school oh it is a it's
• 1:08:24
  a girl by the way withholding that I'm not going to set
• 1:08:27
  anything on fire in order to announce that so do you have a name
• 1:08:33
  uh not that I'm going to be announcing or discussing yeah we've got we've got
• 1:08:37
  options but those uh this is a friend of ours said that they're not basically
• 1:08:44
  we're not soliciting input on the name so you'll find out what it is when it's born
• 1:08:50
  and yeah the same route Luke I don't I don't know about you but I seem to
• 1:08:56
  recall Matt saying like a decade ago that he would name his firstborn child
• 1:09:02
  after you now I do remember this as well he wasn't certain at that point that it
• 1:09:07
  was going to be a boy but I don't think that came into the discussion right no it did
• 1:09:13
  not so Matt I mean I look like you said it's not up to us but you know if you're
• 1:09:19
  going to be a man of your word I do believe there was some kind of well
• 1:09:25
  we'll see what say packed but let's certainly say it was it was a promise
• 1:09:30
  we'll see what happens we'll see what happens I mean there's no there's no not
• 1:09:34
  even any female version of Luke there's a female version of actually looked that
• 1:09:39
  up it's there a female version of Luke putting it out there oh Oh you mean the
• 1:09:43
  name I thought you meant like a human I was like thank God this not Luke is a
• 1:09:47
  transsexual but only in the Video Game World and I'm going to spend about 4
• 1:09:52
  hours setting up my character to be female in cyber Punk next week [ __ ] man
• 1:09:56
  I'm going to spend so long on that character creator I may never finish the Character
• 1:10:00
  Creator but the funny thing is do it but then never see your character cuz it's
• 1:10:04
  all first person I know I know do you I just want one game to be second person
• 1:10:09
  they go from first to third I want to look at my character in the face show
• 1:10:15
  the game as he makes decisions they came up with the idea for
• 1:10:20
  Peep Show is David Mitchell being a [ __ ] smartass what if show and then
• 1:10:26
  they're like yes yes yeah here's the money he's like you yeah you're on to
• 1:10:31
  something and he was like [ __ ] now I've got to make
• 1:10:35
  it I'm I'm glad he did and now the girl he was obsessed with on that is the
• 1:10:41
  queen I know she won a [ __ ] Academy Award mate I just watched season 4 It's
• 1:10:46
  [ __ ] amazing it's so good and to bring it back Elizabeth geki the Aussie
• 1:10:53
  bird from tenet is going to be Princess D in season 5 oh there you go the very
• 1:10:58
  tall woman the very tall woman if I'm tenant that's not a plot
• 1:11:05
  point she's just very tall if you like tall women why don't you come to the
• 1:11:10
  Afterparty why what's happen in the after there some long legged birds in the Afterparty
• 1:11:16
  Matt I'll wait to see oh no that's an
• 1:11:22
  ostrich it's de from Always Sunny yeah that was a dad you can have it Matt
• 1:11:26
  you're the dad oh thanks I appreciate it I'm going to be a
• 1:11:30
  very I'm a very professional dad Joker don't you worry about it that's all for
• 1:11:35
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