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Episode 335: 'Trial and Error' (SG-U 2.06) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Speaker 1: You know, you guys will not believe what I saw today.
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Speaker 1: You know that big bridge that's near my house? The
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Speaker 1: big giant one? Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 2: Do you want us to say the name? Is that
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Speaker 2: where we're leading? Story Bridge?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Gateway Bridge. I was driving across that today
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Speaker 1: and I just, there was this car in front of me.
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Speaker 1: It was like a big four-wheel drive and it had
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Speaker 1: this like, just like the biggest box trailer you've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: Like the box trailer was, it was like a Hilux
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Speaker 1: pulling it. It was almost as high as the Hilux.
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Speaker 1: I'll show you guys a picture. I'll pull it out
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Speaker 1: so you can't see the sign.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's helpful for an audio medium.
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Speaker 1: No, we'll definitely post this. We have to post this.
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Speaker 1: So you can kind of sit like, I don't want
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Speaker 1: you guys to read the signs. I'm just going to
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Speaker 1: move it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like a truck with a trailer.
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Speaker 1: Like a big, like a big, big just box trailer
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Speaker 1: with like a torno over the top that's kind of
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Speaker 1: curved and stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When you zoom in on that sign, it says, pets
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Speaker 1: in peace. dignified horse cremation and then a giant horseshoe.
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Speaker 2: Good luck.
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Speaker 1: So apparently a box trailer with a tornado over it
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Speaker 1: is the dig. So I'm like, is there a dead
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Speaker 1: horse in that trailer or is it?
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Speaker 2: There's several.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's it. I was like, I sent that to
1:18
Speaker 1: Jacob and he was like, why is it so wide?
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, obviously because the most dignified thing
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Speaker 1: to do is stack them up in there because horses
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Speaker 1: are herd animals. So they, you know, it's a, it's
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Speaker 1: a whole, it's a stampede. But I was just like the,
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Speaker 1: the dignified, dignified, just how specific it was. It could
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Speaker 1: have just said pets in, what is it? Pets in peace.
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Speaker 2: Pet cemetery.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why did they have to specify that it is
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Speaker 1: a dignified horse cremation trailer?
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Speaker 4: So he can point to the sign when he rocks
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Speaker 4: up to the farm. They're like, what would you like
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Speaker 4: us to do with an old daisy?
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Speaker 1: And they're like, just chuck it in the ute, mate.
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Speaker 2: Just chuck it in there.
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Speaker 1: I could not believe that. I mean, obviously, you've got
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Speaker 1: to transport dead horses, I guess. Someone's got to get
2:01
Speaker 1: them to the glue factory, but Jesus.
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Speaker 5: Emily wants a divorce.
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Speaker 1: I guess I should have seen it coming. I guess
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 6: Maybe we should talk after everything that's happened.
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Speaker 5: Is there anything that you and I could possibly say
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Speaker 5: that's going to make.
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Speaker 2: It any better? Colonel Young, come in.
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Speaker 7: This is Young, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: Nine alien ship, they got us surrounded.
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Speaker 2: They want us to hand over Chloe.
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Speaker 1: We need to be able to defend ourselves.
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Speaker 3: You hold yourself responsible for everything, including what happened to TJ.
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Speaker 4: And the baby.
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Speaker 7: Colonel.
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Speaker 1: Well, you wanted to be shrinking. Now here's your chance.
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Speaker 1: I think that might be going insane. You've been drinking. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's not the problem.
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Speaker 5: That's just one of the symptoms.
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Speaker 2: A recurring dream.
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Speaker 1: It's more than a dream. It's about as real as
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Speaker 1: it gets.
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Speaker 7: Aliens from the other galaxy catch.
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Speaker 1: Up to us.
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Speaker 5: They surround the ship, and then they ask me to
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Speaker 5: hand over Chloe.
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Speaker 2: It's a no-win scenario. Son of a bitch!
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Long! Colonel, we got a problem.
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Speaker 3: More alien shells are approaching.
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Speaker 1: A lot more. Colonel, you don't look so good.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's that, uh.
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Speaker 1: It's obvious, huh? What if I told you our baby
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Speaker 1: is still alive?
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: Why would you do that?
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Speaker 2: I can see where you're going.
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Speaker 6: I'm afraid that you won't come back.
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Speaker 1: The ship has dropped out, but there's no gates in range.
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Speaker 7: Brody says we're just drifting. Well, it doesn't sound so bad.
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Speaker 4: You figure it out.
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Speaker 1: The computer was running a simulation of its own. The
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Speaker 1: ship is affecting the Colonel's dreams? Colonel, I'm not going away.
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Speaker 1: You need to clean yourself up.
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Speaker 2: We are stuck out here in the middle of nowhere.
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Speaker 2: And if you pull yourself together.
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Speaker 4: You're over it.
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Speaker 5: Yes. So how are you going to feel when I
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Speaker 5: have to drop her off the ship?
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Speaker 1: Hit me!
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Speaker 2: Hit me!
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Speaker 1: You don't get to feel sorry for yourself.
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Speaker 6: I killed Riley.
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Speaker 5: I suffocated him with my own hands.
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Speaker 1: You can't get up and do it all over again
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Speaker 1: the next day. You managed to bypass the simulation and
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Speaker 1: get the ship going.
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Speaker 3: Ultimately, I control this ship.
4:33
Speaker 4: Get into Gates, episode 335. As you can tell, talking
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Speaker 4: some Stargate universe. Over to my right, which means nothing
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Speaker 4: in audio for Matty.
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Speaker 1: It took an embarrassingly long amount of time for me
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Speaker 1: to figure out how that song was connected.
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Speaker 2: I thought you were trying to figure out which song
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Speaker 2: it was. I was.
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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, is this?
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Speaker 2: I was playing charades.
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Speaker 4: I was drinking and then I was smoking some weed,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 2: It's great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, old. I mean, we'll talk about it. But yeah, young.
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Speaker 2: You got the extra strong stuff. Brendan, what's going on, buddy? G'day, mate.
5:09
Speaker 2: Bloody good to be here.
5:11
Speaker 4: Pots and pans, putting that little special together.
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Speaker 2: That's your best work yet. Yeah, well done. And that's
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Speaker 2: saying something, because you've had some absolute bloody pearls. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: But SGU, we are talking trial and error.
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Speaker 6: That's right.
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Speaker 4: There's three words in this title, guys. I haven't had
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Speaker 4: to work this hard for the last two seasons, but
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Speaker 4: here we are.
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Speaker 1: Well, is an ampersand a word? Is it like, what's
5:28
Speaker 1: that Patty and Selma line? I got two and a
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Speaker 1: half words for you. Gulp and blow.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I guess it kind of works then, yeah. Trial and error.
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Speaker 2: Wrong order.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Sit on that for a second. This episode is brought to.
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Speaker 4: You by a new patron, a new member to the
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Speaker 4: Patreon family for.
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Speaker 2: Getting the gates.
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Speaker 1: Mr. Peter Stewart. Stewie.
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Speaker 5: Oh, Peter.
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Speaker 1: Peter. Although when I.
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Speaker 4: First glanced at the name, I thought it said Patrick Stewart.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be marvellous?
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Speaker 4: Don't.
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Speaker 2: It's so early. You've already said that.
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Speaker 1: You said it. That's what. Get all the way. You
6:14
Speaker 1: left a gap. What was I meant to do? What
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Speaker 1: do you mean?
6:17
Speaker 2: You left a gap.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean that I said it? You said
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Speaker 1: the actor's name. I quoted him. I could have. So what?
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Speaker 1: If I'd have said mutants every 2,000 years, that would
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Speaker 1: have been fine. Yeah, because it's not.
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Speaker 2: I'll take that back.
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.
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Speaker 7: Oh, oh.
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Speaker 1: Here's one for your kids, Mitch. Invite. Invite.
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Speaker 4: I don't think I told Brendan about that. Do you
6:50
Speaker 4: remember that moment where... We were having a bit of
6:53
Speaker 4: fun at Matty's expense, believe it or not.
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Speaker 7: Oh, jeez.
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Speaker 1: That'll narrow it down. That'll narrow it down, won't it?
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Speaker 2: I think it might have been about some Trek. I said,
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Speaker 2: we don't invite you here to talk about stuff.
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Speaker 1: And he just, I invite! Who has the flawless attendance record?
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Speaker 2: My kids.
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Speaker 1: A succulent Chinese meal.
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Speaker 4: Actually, in particular, Luke, who's my arty child.
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Speaker 2: And Brendan's godson, by the way, mind you. Yeah, that
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Speaker 2: actually tracks. It does track.
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Speaker 1: That absolutely tracks. He.
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Speaker 4: like drew my father's day card for me and then
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Speaker 4: he did like a little comic book panel on the
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Speaker 4: inside cover and it was like me doing work at
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Speaker 4: the broncos and me doing stuff on radio and then
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Speaker 4: me i don't know mowing the lawn or something who
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Speaker 4: knows and then it.
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Speaker 1: Was all your great passions it was me.
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Speaker 4: Me at a table with you two guys just little
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Speaker 4: stick figures and then it was just one speech bubble
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Speaker 4: coming out of one of the stick figures going invite
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Speaker 4: because i showed on that video and they And pissed themselves.
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Speaker 1: So that moment lives in infamy. I mean, knowing the
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Speaker 1: brain rot they watch on YouTube, it's probably an insult
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Speaker 1: to me that they enjoy that so much.
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Speaker 2: No, no, I keep them clear of that. Don't worry
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Speaker 2: about that.
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Speaker 1: Oh, they've shown me some weird shit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: They don't get to watch much YouTube. They actually don't
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Speaker 4: watch any YouTube. We've got codes on that shit, mate.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I suppose this was probably, what, a year ago
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Speaker 1: when they were showing me just a lot of John
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Speaker 1: Cena bullshit and the– You know, where it would just
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Speaker 1: do the snap cut when it was just like, not static,
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Speaker 1: but the like the.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that thing. Interference or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: A lot of that brain. Mind you, I think that
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Speaker 1: was around the skibbity toilet time.
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Speaker 6: So.
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Speaker 4: We've moved on. Hopefully it's a society. Anyway, thank you.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Peter.
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Speaker 1: Peter.
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Speaker 4: Peace to you for your patronage to the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well done, mate. Yeah, we used to do that last,
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Speaker 1: didn't we?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just thought we'd change it up. Just thought we'd
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Speaker 3: change it up a little bit. No offence to anyone
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Speaker 3: who we've shouted out at the end. No, I'd been meaning.
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Speaker 1: To do it for a long time and I just
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Speaker 1: kept forgetting because I have a brain like a sieve.
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Speaker 4: Most people know that we love them, but for anyone
8:57
Speaker 4: else who's maybe looked and thought about supporting the show
9:00
Speaker 4: and hasn't yet, now you know that you get to, hey,
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Speaker 4: the show, this episode brought to you by, you know.
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Speaker 1: And roll the dice because there's only like, what, 15
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Speaker 1: left after this. Yeah, so jump on in, guys, you know.
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Speaker 4: But we are talking about Trial and Error, the two-and-a-half-word
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Speaker 4: title that we've got.
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Speaker 2: Let me go to the old synopsis, the unofficial one,
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Speaker 2: as it may be.
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Speaker 4: Colonel Everett Young has what he believes are prophetic dreams
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Speaker 4: of destiny's destruction, leading him to question his ability as
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Speaker 4: commander of the mission. Written by Joe and Paul, directed
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Speaker 4: by Andy Makita.
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Speaker 1: So some old SG heads.
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Speaker 4: On this episode, once again, and bloody hell, Young, he's
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Speaker 4: having a little bit of a drama. And I will say,
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Speaker 4: for me, first time, I'm like, trial and error, and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, what's this going to be?
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, God, is this a trial episode?
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 4: I actually never thought about that. My first thought was like,
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Speaker 4: why didn't they have one half called trial? and the
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Speaker 4: next episode called error because that's what the show has
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Speaker 4: done when it's like to um you know have a.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if i wonder if joe wrote an episode
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Speaker 1: called trial and paul wrote an episode called error maybe
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Speaker 1: let's just combine them yeah do you.
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Speaker 4: Think we can yeah But, you know, when the ships
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Speaker 4: show up and I didn't think, oh, this is bullshit.
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Speaker 4: My first thought was.
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Speaker 2: Oh, for fuck's sake, stop shrinking the universe.
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Speaker 4: And then when someone pointed out, hang on, weren't these
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Speaker 4: guys in another galaxy?
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Speaker 2: Don't worry, we'll figure out later how they followed us.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I'd kind of like to know that
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Speaker 4: now because that seems highly unlikely. But, you know, and
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Speaker 4: then old mate Scott gets ripped out of the glass.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well.
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Speaker 3: That seems unlikely. And how long did he have before?
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Speaker 3: He could have easily run out of the room. He
10:51
Speaker 3: could have crawled out of there. Yeah, made a cup
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Speaker 3: of tea, gone down on Chloe. Yeah, because you've got
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Speaker 3: to remember, it's always time.
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Speaker 2: That was a long time.
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Speaker 1: It's what young thinks Scott would have done.
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Speaker 6: Oh, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a dummy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He thinks he's a dummy.
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Speaker 1: So he's like, yeah, he knows that Scott would be like,
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Speaker 1: be dramatic about it.
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Speaker 2: Turn to the camera that's not there.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Why is he moving in slow motion?
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Speaker 1: Single tear rolling down the cheek. I'm actually surprised he
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Speaker 1: didn't like make him pray. I'm surprised Scott didn't like
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Speaker 1: do the old.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That would have been cool.
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Speaker 1: What is it? Spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Or just close the eyes and start mouthing words. Kneel down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But yeah.
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Speaker 4: Uh, or even him yelling to, to young saying, Oh,
11:33
Speaker 4: you gotta, you gotta close down for this area.
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Speaker 2: You gotta lock it all down.
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Speaker 4: And you know, the, the, what the, not the shields,
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Speaker 4: but the, you know, um, door last door type thing.
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Speaker 2: What am I thinking? The last doors, the last doors,
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Speaker 2: the Iris types of situation. He's like, why?
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Speaker 4: And he's like, just do it. And then nothing happened.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, what's I want to go back to young
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Speaker 4: and him like, ah, he didn't give us a reason.
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Speaker 4: I'm not doing it. And then he gets blown out.
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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, that sucks. And then it's like, they're
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Speaker 4: just firing, firing. I'm like, geez, that's going to, there's
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Speaker 4: a lot of repairs out there that they're going to
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Speaker 4: need to do.
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Speaker 2: How are they going to do that?
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Speaker 4: That's so far away. We're going to need, we're going
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Speaker 4: to need Eli to carry Chloe. It's that far away,
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Speaker 4: all the way down the other end of the ship.
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Speaker 4: And then just back and he wakes up again. I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 4: so what is this? is it just a dream? Because that's,
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Speaker 4: and then I think more than I've seen in any
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Speaker 4: other TV episode or film that does this sort of thing,
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Speaker 4: I started to question how will he know whether he's
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Speaker 4: still dreaming? Like I feel like there's a difference maybe
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Speaker 4: in the lighting or maybe the frame rate or anything,
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Speaker 4: the way they're shooting it, maybe some Dutch angles thrown
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Speaker 4: in there or something, where usually when a character wakes
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Speaker 4: up and they've had some type of premonition type dream,
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Speaker 4: you know that they're in the real world and they're
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Speaker 4: trying to decipher, okay, well, I saw this in my dream,
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Speaker 4: Final Destination style. They're trying to figure out what's what,
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Speaker 4: whereas here, okay, the second time he's clearly dreaming again.
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Speaker 4: And then he wakes up the third time and it's like,
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Speaker 4: I don't, I wouldn't be going out and telling Camille, hey,
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Speaker 4: I've had this crazy dream because anything she says to you,
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Speaker 4: you've got to question whether that's your conscience, you know,
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Speaker 4: saying it back to you.
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Speaker 2: And, yeah, I don't know. I was a bit thrown.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know where this was going to go.
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Speaker 4: And then when they started saying that it's the ship,
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, well, that makes sense by not
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Speaker 4: making sense because I don't understand how this ship works.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be because, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: had no memory of this. I thought it was going
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Speaker 1: to be a time loop, another time loop, kind of
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Speaker 1: like in time, because there is a very famous episode.
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Speaker 1: We've done this. Yeah, well, there's that. I feel like
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Speaker 1: there was a missing element, I guess, towards when Young
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Speaker 1: started going nuts, like after he gave up Chloe in the, what,
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Speaker 1: the second or the third loop, and Scott came and, like,
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Speaker 1: beat the shit out of him, and then he's just, like,
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Speaker 1: laughing on the ground. I feel like that was as
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Speaker 1: close as we got to a window of opportunity.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But, yeah, there's a pretty famous episode of another sci-fi
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Speaker 1: series starring Patrick Stewart. um, called cause and effect, which
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Speaker 1: I thought was very close to trial and error cause
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Speaker 1: and effect where it's, and it's, uh, the ship gets
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Speaker 1: destroyed every time and it's, and they learn a little
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Speaker 1: bit more each time. And I was like, and I literally,
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Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, we've done this. And then once
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Speaker 1: it was a dream, I was like, Oh, okay. That's,
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Speaker 1: that's a little different. Um, but you know, I think
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Speaker 1: we all know how I feel about dream sequences and, and,
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Speaker 1: and that kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I didn't mind the explanation that the ship
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Speaker 3: was running through running him through the simulation or something, but,
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Speaker 3: It's weird that there was no kind of resolution to it.
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Speaker 3: It was like, he like, uh, Scott stripped him down
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Speaker 3: and then he came back to the, to the, what
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Speaker 3: do they call it?
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Speaker 2: The control room. And that was it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It turns out that rush was the one that
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Speaker 1: canceled it. Which kind of took the wind out of it.
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Speaker 1: Cause I thought it was really, it was, was kind
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Speaker 1: of empowering and it kind of felt very Stargate either way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Um, young came back in and started giving orders and blah, blah. And,
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Speaker 1: The way the ship responded, you were like, hell yeah,
14:56
Speaker 1: this is some progress. We kind of know a bit.
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Speaker 1: And then when it's all kind of just taken away
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Speaker 1: that it was rushed the whole time. And I was
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Speaker 1: just like, oh.
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Speaker 2: The whole time?
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Speaker 1: The whole time. A bit of foreshadowing there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So that was... That was a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: bummer for me.
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Speaker 4: I think even the confusing sort of overlapping of what was...
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Speaker 4: It wasn't just like a window of opportunity or any
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Speaker 4: of these other... Of this type of concept that we
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Speaker 4: see where everything that happens happens exactly the same way
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Speaker 4: from the moment they wake up. And they're trying to
15:30
Speaker 4: get to the end a little bit differently. Whereas this,
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Speaker 4: on what the.
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Speaker 4: The third one, he went to Camille and went, I
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Speaker 4: think I'm going crazy. And then in the fourth one,
15:42
Speaker 4: he woke up. I tried to give him Chloe before
15:43
Speaker 4: I came to you.
15:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
15:45
Speaker 4: On the fourth one, he woke up and he didn't
15:48
Speaker 4: go and do the same things. I think by that
15:50
Speaker 4: stage he was basically done, right? And yet Camille was
15:55
Speaker 4: referring to, oh, is this why he feels like he's
15:57
Speaker 4: going a bit crazy? And I'm like, but that happened
15:59
Speaker 4: in the third go. not the fourth. And then in
16:02
Speaker 4: the third one, they refer, Oh, is that why you didn't,
16:05
Speaker 4: you wanted them to focus on weapons and stuff and
16:08
Speaker 4: not shields and not, not the, uh, uh, wasn't, uh, botanics.
16:12
Speaker 2: What was it? They were trying to, um, park was
16:14
Speaker 2: trying to, Oh, the big dome for hydroponics.
16:17
Speaker 1: Hydroponics, right? Mitch trying to imitate smoking weed earlier during
16:22
Speaker 1: that song. He doesn't even remember the word for hydroponics.
16:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Mitch, sure.
16:27
Speaker 4: And in the third one, they referred to him, oh,
16:29
Speaker 4: is that why you did that?
16:30
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but that happened in the second one.
16:31
Speaker 4: And I feel like from the moment he wakes up
16:33
Speaker 4: every time, his whole day is completely different. He's not
16:36
Speaker 4: going and making sure and making that same decision in
16:41
Speaker 4: run around three that he did in number two. I
16:43
Speaker 4: feel like he didn't even go to that meeting. to
16:45
Speaker 4: say that sort of shit so unless this was just
16:47
Speaker 4: inferring that well yeah this is how these time loop
16:50
Speaker 4: type things work he did go and do that i
16:52
Speaker 4: didn't feel that he i didn't feel like he went
16:54
Speaker 4: to camille after that meeting i feel like he went
16:57
Speaker 4: to camille instead of going to that meeting that he
16:59
Speaker 4: did about the hydroponics and then in number four it
17:02
Speaker 4: was completely different to two and three again but each
17:04
Speaker 4: one referred to something that happened in the previous one
17:08
Speaker 4: which didn't make sense at the time. But then at
17:10
Speaker 4: the end where they're like, Oh no, this is a, um, uh,
17:13
Speaker 4: a situation from the ship.
17:15
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay.
17:16
Speaker 4: So it was none of this. They're not sort of,
17:20
Speaker 4: it's not reruns. They're actually all.
17:22
Speaker 2: Kind of, it's all kind of one thing in a,
17:24
Speaker 2: I don't know.
17:25
Speaker 4: I was still, I was very, I didn't know how
17:27
Speaker 4: to take it maybe because like Brendan said, we didn't
17:29
Speaker 4: get this like proper sort of conclusion to it. And, and,
17:34
Speaker 4: definitive answer not because we're an idiot audience except for
17:37
Speaker 4: me but i feel like i don't know.
17:39
Speaker 1: That i feel like we also didn't get any kind
17:41
Speaker 1: of results you're like so what and i guess eli
17:43
Speaker 1: doesn't mention it but it's like so what the ship
17:44
Speaker 1: can just jump into anyone's brain anytime at once at
17:47
Speaker 1: which point well then what's the point in like the
17:49
Speaker 1: chair or the control room or what what is the
17:52
Speaker 1: point in all these analog things if the if the
17:55
Speaker 1: ship itself can just start broadcasting into your brain. I
17:58
Speaker 1: was like, and we didn't really touch on that. And
18:00
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, like I would get it. Like,
18:02
Speaker 1: I feel like this was an Atlantis episode. It would
18:04
Speaker 1: have been, oh, McKay or Shepard have been fooling around
18:07
Speaker 1: with some new piece of technology they found. And this
18:10
Speaker 1: is the consequence of it. Not just the ship can
18:12
Speaker 1: just decide to start doing these things.
18:14
Speaker 2: Unless it was. Hey, it's Franklin.
18:18
Speaker 4: And Young remembers everything that happened in all four iterations
18:22
Speaker 4: of what went on or five or however many it was, right?
18:25
Speaker 4: Like he would remember all of that. Like each one
18:28
Speaker 4: he remembered that he'd done it before.
18:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when he talks to Camille, he says, number one,
18:31
Speaker 1: he went full offensive. Number two, he went into the
18:33
Speaker 1: defensive shell and just devoted everything to shields and then
18:35
Speaker 1: more ships showed up. It was kind of like that
18:39
Speaker 1: episode with Teal'c in the game where the level kept
18:42
Speaker 1: restarting and it got harder each time.
18:44
Speaker 7: Yep.
18:45
Speaker 1: Um, so yeah. And then the third, the third go
18:47
Speaker 1: round was when he gave up Chloe. And then that
18:50
Speaker 1: was when I just stopped, um, keeping track of what
18:52
Speaker 1: he was doing. I did really like though. I did
18:56
Speaker 1: enjoy the, um, the conversation that he had with, um, Camille.
19:02
Speaker 5: Colonel.
19:03
Speaker 2: Oh, you want it to be shrinking now?
19:04
Speaker 1: Here's your chance.
19:06
Speaker 4: All right.
19:06
Speaker 1: Well, I, uh, I've been having this recurring, uh, dream only. It's, uh,
19:13
Speaker 1: It's more than a dream.
19:15
Speaker 2: It's real.
19:16
Speaker 5: It's about as real as it gets.
19:18
Speaker 4: Okay.
19:20
Speaker 1: What's it about?
19:22
Speaker 5: The aliens from the other galaxy, they catch up to us.
19:26
Speaker 5: They surround the ship, and then they ask me to
19:27
Speaker 5: hand over Chloe. And now the first time I try
19:31
Speaker 5: to fight them off, the ship gets destroyed. The second time,
19:35
Speaker 5: I go into a defensive shell, but the ship still
19:39
Speaker 5: gets destroyed. There's something else going on here. I mean,
19:43
Speaker 5: it's just like no dream I've ever had before. I mean,
19:46
Speaker 5: I can feel the floor under my feet. I can
19:49
Speaker 5: smell the sweat. of the people around me, Camille.
19:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It's a no-win scenario.
19:56
Speaker 6: The Kobayashi Maru scenario frequently wreaks havoc with students and equipment.
20:01
Speaker 6: As I recall, you took the test three times yourself.
20:05
Speaker 6: Your final solution was, shall we say, unique. It had
20:08
Speaker 6: the virtue of never having been tried. I reprogrammed the
20:11
Speaker 6: simulation so it was possible to rescue the ship.
20:15
Speaker 2: What?
20:16
Speaker 1: He cheated.
20:16
Speaker 6: I changed the conditions of the test. I don't believe
20:19
Speaker 6: in a no-win scenario.
20:23
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll take that. I guess if there
20:26
Speaker 1: are people in the room that knew it better, the
20:28
Speaker 1: fact that Camille says no-win scenario is such a huge
20:33
Speaker 1: phrase when it comes to Star Trek. Yeah.
20:36
Speaker 7: Yeah.
20:38
Speaker 1: I had to do it. For all the Trekkies out there,
20:39
Speaker 1: I had to do it. I feel like this is
20:41
Speaker 1: the soup thing all over again.
20:42
Speaker 2: It's fine.
20:43
Speaker 1: It's just, yeah, you're expecting us to react.
20:45
Speaker 2: To it like we know what you're talking about. Yeah,
20:48
Speaker 2: I looked over at Matty and I was like, hey, hey.
20:51
Speaker 1: I don't know.
20:52
Speaker 2: Wasn't some of that original series? No, Wrath of Khan.
20:56
Speaker 1: And then they referenced it in those shitty JJ films
21:01
Speaker 1: when Face is eating the apple. You know, in the
21:05
Speaker 1: scenario where he's eating the apple, being a douchebag, going pew, pew,
21:10
Speaker 1: pew in the simulation. Oh, yes, yes.
21:12
Speaker 3: Eating an apple is such a douchebag move in a movie,
21:15
Speaker 3: and so is chewing gum, I feel.
21:17
Speaker 1: And I heard on that thing I was telling you
21:19
Speaker 1: guys about the other week, that Center Seat documentary, when
21:21
Speaker 1: they referenced some of the post-production of those movies, they said, yeah,
21:24
Speaker 1: that was just something they came up with, like, literally, like,
21:26
Speaker 1: two seconds before shooting. JJ just went, here, eat an
21:29
Speaker 1: apple while you're doing it. And it's just the most pretentious.
21:32
Speaker 2: Well, it worked.
21:33
Speaker 1: Douchebag-y thing. But he's not supposed to be a pretentious douchebag, Mitchell.
21:36
Speaker 1: I know, but he's learning that. He's learning to not
21:39
Speaker 1: become or learning to become not. I don't know. While
21:44
Speaker 1: he's cheating on a test, eating an apple like a douchebag.
21:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, again, I don't know where he's going
21:49
Speaker 4: because I've never seen any. So I'm with you.
21:52
Speaker 2: It's fine. So back to Stargate.
21:54
Speaker 4: I just wanted to quickly say that before this, before
21:58
Speaker 4: this we started recording, we made a point of, I've
22:01
Speaker 4: referenced it, I think something that Brendan had made and
22:03
Speaker 4: we're like, oh, this is so amazing.
22:05
Speaker 2: You were saying, yeah, I've had all these ideas and
22:07
Speaker 2: with Universe, I've had time.
22:08
Speaker 4: To think like before we started doing SGU, you wanted
22:10
Speaker 4: to do all this different stuff with it. And Maddie said, oh,
22:13
Speaker 4: that's so great because I often sit there and watch
22:15
Speaker 4: these episodes and go.
22:16
Speaker 2: I could make this, but, man, I just can't be.
22:19
Speaker 1: F * * * ed.
22:19
Speaker 4: And then 15 minutes later you play something that you've
22:22
Speaker 4: went out of your way to source how many different
22:24
Speaker 4: clips of Star Trek?
22:26
Speaker 1: No, that was all from like one, well, two, there
22:29
Speaker 1: was a super cut on YouTube for me done already.
22:30
Speaker 2: Two episodes of one movie or something, maybe.
22:33
Speaker 1: That was all just from Wrath of Khan.
22:35
Speaker 2: None of that was Patrick Stewart?
22:37
Speaker 7: No.
22:37
Speaker 6: Wow.
22:38
Speaker 1: That was all Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner. I don't.
22:41
Speaker 1: So like I said, back to Stargate. Patrick Stewart's character
22:45
Speaker 1: wasn't in the J.J. Abrams films.
22:47
Speaker 2: I didn't say that he was.
22:49
Speaker 1: There are a hundred years of.
22:50
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a shame you guys faded out. I wanted to.
22:57
Speaker 3: Shut up for a f * * * ing second.
22:59
Speaker 3: And let's go back to Stargate. I had this thing here.
23:01
Speaker 3: I'm going to leave it down for a second.
23:04
Speaker 1: I had this thing here.
23:08
Speaker 2: Nah, that's good. I don't bang on about it for
23:10
Speaker 2: 18 minutes.
23:11
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. How long was the Elton John Daniels song?
23:17
Speaker 2: That was, come on.
23:18
Speaker 1: I mean, it was brilliant.
23:19
Speaker 2: That was a great hit.
23:20
Speaker 1: That was fantastic, but it was long.
23:25
Speaker 4: Rude.
23:27
Speaker 1: I shall proceed to power. You can't even see it
23:30
Speaker 1: behind this little screen that I'm on. No, it's actually good.
23:32
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad anymore.
23:35
Speaker 3: When Matty used to sook off when Rhys was paying
23:37
Speaker 3: him out and somehow I got the blame for laughing.
23:41
Speaker 3: I used to look at him like, f * *
23:42
Speaker 3: * ing hell, mate.
23:43
Speaker 1: The term is enabler. You were Rhys' enabler and he
23:47
Speaker 1: was your enabler.
23:49
Speaker 2: Who's yours then?
23:50
Speaker 1: Because no matter what, me, I'm my own enabler, but
23:53
Speaker 1: no matter what you two f * * * ers did,
23:55
Speaker 1: you always got a guaranteed laugh out of the other.
23:57
Speaker 1: It was just that. That perfect brotherhood thing where it
24:00
Speaker 1: was just like, I got you back. I'm always like, oh,
24:02
Speaker 1: I couldn't win. Yeah, because we're trying to play yes and.
24:04
Speaker 1: Couldn't win.
24:05
Speaker 3: And then you would interrupt our yes ands. It's like, well, okay,
24:09
Speaker 3: we'll interrupt. My favourite one was when.
24:11
Speaker 1: You were like, can you stop interrupting?
24:14
Speaker 2: Grace kept going. That is the worst thing you could
24:16
Speaker 2: have done.
24:17
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have said that. Shouldn't have said that. Shouldn't have
24:20
Speaker 1: said that.
24:20
Speaker 2: Shouldn't have left it.
24:21
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have taken a breath. C-H-L-O-E, Chloe.
24:27
Speaker 3: Listen to this bit. Chloe's talking about her alien skin.
24:31
Speaker 3: And listen to Scott's reaction to this.
24:34
Speaker 2: I grabbed the same audio, I think.
24:37
Speaker 4: Poisoned you with my alien blood.
24:38
Speaker 1: Alien blood?
24:40
Speaker 2: Just keep them here because....
24:43
Speaker 7: Because I might black out and sabotage the ship without
24:46
Speaker 7: even knowing it.
24:48
Speaker 1: You saved my life.
24:49
Speaker 2: This is the biggest.
24:50
Speaker 5: If you were just an alien monster, you would have
24:51
Speaker 5: left me to die out there and no one would.
24:53
Speaker 1: Have known any better. My skin's changing.
24:58
Speaker 3: Look, it's coarse.
25:04
Speaker 1: Like it's getting hard.
25:09
Speaker 3: And it's growing.
25:12
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter?
25:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I, um, you should play my number one.
25:20
Speaker 1: Because this is what I termed it. This is basically,
25:23
Speaker 1: this is an insight into their sex life.
25:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:29
Speaker 3: It's coarse.
25:31
Speaker 5: Like it's getting hard.
25:36
Speaker 1: And it's growing.
25:37
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's growing. It's growing.
25:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was getting a little childish there when she's like,
25:48
Speaker 1: it's getting hard.
25:49
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, now I'll be listening for any
25:51
Speaker 4: time in this episode where he says me too or
25:54
Speaker 4: so am I and then we can cut them two together.
25:57
Speaker 2: And it didn't happen.
25:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's lucky they cut to like her hand
26:02
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, it's growing elsewhere and Scott's
26:05
Speaker 1: about to get pegged where my brain went to. He's like,
26:10
Speaker 1: it's okay.
26:12
Speaker 2: How like quickly... She's like, get a look at this infection.
26:15
Speaker 2: You know how we've been fucking heaps? Get a load
26:18
Speaker 2: of this. And he's like, oh, no, that's fine.
26:22
Speaker 1: Remember how I gave you a blood transfusion last week?
26:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's good.
26:27
Speaker 1: You know what?
26:27
Speaker 4: We should probably wrap up what we're talking about. That
26:31
Speaker 4: was the second of two examples where one person was
26:35
Speaker 4: telling maybe the wrong other person what was going on.
26:37
Speaker 4: Like when Young comes back of a meeting with his
26:40
Speaker 4: wife on Earth that we don't get to see and says, oh,
26:43
Speaker 4: she wants a divorce.
26:44
Speaker 2: And he goes up to TJ and it's like, hey, I'm.
26:46
Speaker 4: Going to go to the woman who played a massive
26:49
Speaker 4: role in why my wife wants a divorce and just
26:52
Speaker 4: like try and emotionally connect from her and get some
26:55
Speaker 4: like sympathy from her.
26:56
Speaker 2: And then immediately reject her.
26:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. She's like, oh, can I do something?
27:00
Speaker 2: I've been going through some shit too and I really
27:02
Speaker 2: want to make you feel better.
27:03
Speaker 1: Oh, shut up about our baby. And it's like, what? Dude.
27:07
Speaker 2: What's up with that?
27:09
Speaker 1: She's been like, I figured, I think the reason Emily
27:13
Speaker 1: now wants a divorce is because she no longer is
27:15
Speaker 1: getting Telford Dick back on Earth to like, you know,
27:19
Speaker 1: soothe the wound. Because now they're both in.
27:22
Speaker 3: Soothe the wound.
27:25
Speaker 1: And what I thought was weird with the, like, it's
27:28
Speaker 1: been how many episodes? Well, this is episode six and
27:31
Speaker 1: it was what, episode one? That TJ did the whole
27:35
Speaker 1: stuff with the baby, losing the baby and all that
27:38
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So it's been a long time. for
27:40
Speaker 1: her to finally tell Young about it. But what I
27:44
Speaker 1: thought was really weird is, and he's not the first
27:46
Speaker 1: person to say it, but so many people are saying
27:48
Speaker 1: to TJ, but you never left the ship. In a
27:53
Speaker 1: show where they regularly leave the ship with their bodies
27:57
Speaker 1: staying on the ship and they travel to the other
27:59
Speaker 1: side of the known universe back to earth. Like they should,
28:03
Speaker 1: like you don't have to, your body doesn't have to
28:06
Speaker 1: leave the ship for you to leave the ship. So
28:08
Speaker 1: why is everyone using that as an excuse to, for
28:10
Speaker 1: why they think what TJ experienced wasn't real. You know
28:13
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I think there's more than enough.
28:15
Speaker 2: Reasons to say. She even said that. After everything we've seen,
28:18
Speaker 2: surely it can't be that ridiculous.
28:19
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I feel like there's plenty of opportunities for,
28:22
Speaker 1: you know, you to say, oh, look, TJ, you're obviously mourning.
28:25
Speaker 1: This is an unbelievably hard thing you're going through. I
28:28
Speaker 1: understand you're trying to find ways to cope with the
28:31
Speaker 1: loss and blah, blah, blah. But it's like, the you
28:34
Speaker 1: didn't even leave the ship is the most flimsy excuse
28:37
Speaker 1: I think anyone could ever say.
28:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in sci-fis.
28:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to TJ while she's talking about like, oh,
28:43
Speaker 1: my dead baby.
28:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's... I said that at the start. I think
28:50
Speaker 3: I felt sorry for Lieutenant James. Sorry, second Lieutenant James.
28:55
Speaker 3: Riley and TJ. Obviously Riley's passing, but James just getting
29:00
Speaker 3: absolutely screwed in the broom closet. And then getting screwed
29:04
Speaker 3: because Scott's jumped off with Chloe. And then TJ, obviously,
29:07
Speaker 3: for this reason. And every time she's like.
29:09
Speaker 1: Oh, my baby died and she's in heaven.
29:12
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, can you shut up about that already?
29:16
Speaker 1: We are not interested in even talking about that. Oh, God,
29:19
Speaker 1: what else is boring? Can you just have a quiet
29:23
Speaker 1: postpartum episode, please? Like, Jesus. I mean, you've only saved
29:28
Speaker 1: every single one of our lives at some point during
29:30
Speaker 1: the last year.
29:31
Speaker 2: So ridiculous. Yeah, she's the hardest done by.
29:34
Speaker 1: And out of anybody here, you're the one that's probably
29:37
Speaker 1: not supposed to be here the most just in terms
29:39
Speaker 1: of the fact that you already, like, discharged. You were
29:42
Speaker 1: in the middle of discharging. And then to then be pregnant.
29:44
Speaker 2: And then young discharged.
29:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then to lose the baby.
29:47
Speaker 2: Oopsie. Trial and error?
29:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It just felt very, like... Just
29:57
Speaker 1: be nice to TJ, for fuck's sake.
29:59
Speaker 7: Like, how.
30:00
Speaker 1: How can you not be nice to TJ? How can
30:02
Speaker 1: you look at TJ and not just want to be like,
30:05
Speaker 1: whatever you need? Like, she is just the most selfless,
30:09
Speaker 1: caring person on the ship.
30:11
Speaker 2: Easily.
30:13
Speaker 1: And people are just like, oh, Chloe, just stop complaining.
30:16
Speaker 1: Just go back to the infirmary and stitch something. Like,
30:18
Speaker 1: fucking hell.
30:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Young's... Because Young made a point to come
30:23
Speaker 3: and see her and tell her about that. And then
30:24
Speaker 3: she's like, well, maybe we can talk about it. Because,
30:26
Speaker 3: you know, we had a baby and it passed away and...
30:30
Speaker 3: And we haven't discussed that. He's like, what could we
30:33
Speaker 3: possibly say? I'm like, isn't that what talk therapy is
30:36
Speaker 3: all about?
30:37
Speaker 1: Young's like, I've already cried into my alcohol. So I've
30:41
Speaker 1: actually processed it like a man.
30:42
Speaker 3: Once Brodie still runs out, then we can talk.
30:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:47
Speaker 3: Because until then, I'm kind of hungover. I just wanted
30:51
Speaker 3: to tell you the news and then go back to drinking.
30:53
Speaker 3: You should know better than anyone.
30:54
Speaker 1: You never get hungover if you're still drunk.
30:56
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Hair of the dog, the bitcher.
31:00
Speaker 1: Um, there was an interesting, um, a little bit in
31:04
Speaker 1: the audio commentary. Remember how, uh, back in the SG
31:08
Speaker 1: one days we, we heard that amazing. Was it Peter
31:10
Speaker 1: DeLuise who sang the Stargate theme song to the.
31:13
Speaker 2: I think it was John Paul.
31:14
Speaker 1: Oh, was it John Paul?
31:15
Speaker 2: Was it? I thought it was.
31:17
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but, um, it is a sign like
31:20
Speaker 1: with how iconic that was and how much we referenced that,
31:22
Speaker 1: how much the fandom loved it and all that kind
31:24
Speaker 1: of stuff. It is a little depressing that this is
31:27
Speaker 1: the best that they could come up with for Universe.
31:30
Speaker 2: Theme song.
31:31
Speaker 4: Yay.
31:33
Speaker 1: That's a SGU. And there is stuck.
31:37
Speaker 5: In space other people.
31:40
Speaker 4: That's my words.
31:43
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. You know what's really great when you're
31:47
Speaker 1: doing commentary?
31:48
Speaker 5: Yawning.
31:50
Speaker 1: That is awesome. Sunday at 4 o'clock.
31:53
Speaker 4: It is.
31:54
Speaker 2: I'm so relaxed. Sunday at 4 o'clock.
31:58
Speaker 1: Good old Louis Fadetta.
32:00
Speaker 2: Louis Fadetta.
32:00
Speaker 1: Louis Fadetta. Yeah, I wish I liked his character more.
32:04
Speaker 7: Yeah.
32:05
Speaker 3: Because I want to like his character and he does
32:08
Speaker 3: some awesome things and I think he is genuinely a
32:10
Speaker 3: good leader.
32:12
Speaker 2: I don't know. It must be this whole emotional thing
32:14
Speaker 2: that you just can't get over.
32:15
Speaker 1: Well, and also it's like he's playing something so identical
32:20
Speaker 1: to like who he is. Like when you look at
32:22
Speaker 1: someone like, like the other leads of the other shows,
32:25
Speaker 1: when you look at O'Neill, when you look at, um, uh,
32:28
Speaker 1: Shepard and stuff, they're so, they put, and even, uh,
32:31
Speaker 1: Ben Browder puts so much of themselves into the character.
32:34
Speaker 1: Whereas yeah, like Louis Ferreira, he sounds like a frigging
32:38
Speaker 1: amazing time. He sounds so fun. Imagine, imagine that guy
32:42
Speaker 1: on the ship, you know what I mean? Um, but
32:44
Speaker 1: because the show is so like such a serious tone
32:46
Speaker 1: and such a downer, it's, it's hard for him to
32:50
Speaker 1: be able to bring that stuff. I mean, when he
32:51
Speaker 1: does the serious stuff, he's amazing, but it's just like, yeah,
32:55
Speaker 1: I miss that levity and the poking fun at the
32:59
Speaker 1: absurdity of everything, I feel like is an integral part
33:05
Speaker 1: of what made Stargate unique, and I feel like that
33:09
Speaker 1: is largely lacking in this show, which is understandable. Like,
33:12
Speaker 1: you know, they are doing something very, very different, but
33:15
Speaker 1: I think you could still... have the tone they want
33:18
Speaker 1: but still have, you know, poking fun at the ridiculousness
33:23
Speaker 1: of what they're doing.
33:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching season 9 or 10 episode where
33:30
Speaker 3: Carter goes to that alternate reality.
33:32
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, line in the sand.
33:35
Speaker 2: Oh, Arthur's Mantle? No. It's called Road Not Taken.
33:40
Speaker 1: Oh, Samsonite. I was way off.
33:43
Speaker 3: And it just got a little bit silly in those
33:46
Speaker 3: seasons for me Compared to, especially to this, it's just
33:50
Speaker 3: like Carter's plan was, oh, we'll just kind of use
33:53
Speaker 3: Merlin's invention to just hide the planet. I'm like, come on.
33:58
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Yeah.
34:02
Speaker 3: Just because it keeps getting bigger and bigger, whereas I
34:04
Speaker 3: feel like this show is more cerebral and it kind
34:07
Speaker 3: of goes inwards into the feeling of it.
34:12
Speaker 7: Yeah.
34:13
Speaker 2: More so than SG-1.
34:14
Speaker 3: I feel like because of those episodes, I think we've
34:17
Speaker 3: gone down this path too much.
34:19
Speaker 2: We're trying to make it bigger.
34:20
Speaker 1: Better. It wasn't working, I didn't think. If SG-1 had
34:25
Speaker 1: got an 11th season, she would have then tried to... Well,
34:27
Speaker 1: she's blown up a sun. She's hidden a planet. Now
34:29
Speaker 1: she's going to hide a sun.
34:30
Speaker 2: Or make a black hole.
34:32
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, wait, I guess... No, she did when she
34:35
Speaker 1: blew up the sun, didn't she? Didn't that make a
34:37
Speaker 1: black hole?
34:37
Speaker 2: Supernova.
34:38
Speaker 1: But didn't it make a black hole in the end?
34:41
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Ah, jeez, we should listen to a...
34:43
Speaker 2: Neutron Star?
34:44
Speaker 1: We should listen to a Stargate podcast and see if Well.
34:47
Speaker 3: I don't think they stuck around because they ended up
34:49
Speaker 3: going to a new galaxy because of the blast wave.
34:55
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
34:56
Speaker 2: Exodus, was it?
34:57
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, end of season four. Speaking of big reactions, though, Eli,
35:03
Speaker 1: when Gin touched his hand, I was like, calm down, mate. Like,
35:09
Speaker 1: f * * * ing hell, mate. Like I get
35:12
Speaker 1: there's been no like human touch or whatever in however long,
35:16
Speaker 1: but it's like all she did was like touch your hand.
35:19
Speaker 1: The last time a woman touched my hand was when
35:21
Speaker 1: I was getting change at the supermarket. Touch my little hand.
35:27
Speaker 4: And, you know, I don't know what I was supposed
35:30
Speaker 4: to be thinking at that moment as a first timer,
35:33
Speaker 4: but like just trying to put myself into Eli's shoes, okay.
35:37
Speaker 4: She is part of this group that has been imprisoned.
35:39
Speaker 4: I know that she's been one of the nicer ones.
35:41
Speaker 4: but she was also part of the group that tried
35:42
Speaker 4: to kill everyone and take over the ship, blah, blah, blah.
35:46
Speaker 2: And then she.
35:46
Speaker 4: Comes and says, oh, my God, I just love algebra
35:49
Speaker 4: and long division and shit. Math boy touches him in
35:52
Speaker 4: the leg, and he's like, oh, she's into me.
35:57
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you fucking idiot. You stink. Like, just
36:00
Speaker 1: ask one question.
36:02
Speaker 2: He hasn't had a shower in a month.
36:03
Speaker 1: You can tell.
36:04
Speaker 5: Yeah.
36:05
Speaker 2: Fuck, Eli, you dickhead.
36:07
Speaker 1: Like, fuck. And then Greer... She looks over and she's like,
36:13
Speaker 1: I didn't know the ship had cottage cheese. What's that
36:15
Speaker 1: on the floor?
36:15
Speaker 2: I got that out of my belly button.
36:17
Speaker 4: And then Greer, who's like, he's just waiting for an
36:20
Speaker 4: excuse to shoot one of the Lucian Alliance people.
36:24
Speaker 1: And then he's there looking at going.
36:27
Speaker 2: In my head, he's looking at Eli going, oh, this
36:30
Speaker 2: fucking desperate flog. Like, what the hell?
36:34
Speaker 4: And he removes himself from the room, sits on the
36:36
Speaker 4: outer skirts, and just watches on as Eli is just
36:39
Speaker 4: so one-dimensional... And he's just so naive.
36:43
Speaker 1: And then yet, like, later in the mess hall, the
36:45
Speaker 1: next day, he's like, hey, she's into you.
36:49
Speaker 2: And it's like, wait, what?
36:51
Speaker 1: You're trying to be his wingman here?
36:53
Speaker 2: Shouldn't you want to be? My man.
36:55
Speaker 4: You should be in the cuck chair with a machine
36:57
Speaker 4: gun ready to shoot her. Like, that's what I'm anticipating
37:01
Speaker 4: from Greer.
37:02
Speaker 1: And instead he's like.
37:02
Speaker 2: Stroke the balls. Yeah. They're a beautiful cup. Hue of blue.
37:08
Speaker 1: Swallow the gravy.
37:10
Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus. That, no.
37:13
Speaker 1: That's, the line must be drawn here, this far, no further.
37:19
Speaker 1: Swallow the gravy? What is that from? What's that line?
37:23
Speaker 2: What is that line? Have you never seen that movie
37:25
Speaker 2: or show? I can't remember where it's from.
37:26
Speaker 1: I've never heard that phrase before in my life.
37:29
Speaker 2: I'm going to Google it.
37:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you are.
37:31
Speaker 2: Is that Will Ferrell? Yes, question mark, or from a
37:36
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell movie at the very least.
37:38
Speaker 1: Look, I know I say a lot of fucked up
37:40
Speaker 1: shit on this show. Like, I mean, a couple of
37:41
Speaker 1: episodes ago I was talking about foreskin shots.
37:44
Speaker 4: Tropic Thunder, Jack Black was.
37:47
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen that movie, but I must have
37:49
Speaker 1: blocked that out.
37:52
Speaker 2: That is. You were talking about dad nut the other week.
37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, a potent dad nut is fine.
37:58
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. But swallow the gravy.
37:59
Speaker 1: That's how we all got here is for some potent
38:02
Speaker 1: dad now.
38:03
Speaker 3: I mean, have you had KFC two-piece feed?
38:05
Speaker 2: I bet you've had a potato and gravy.
38:08
Speaker 1: That's different.
38:09
Speaker 2: Down your chin?
38:09
Speaker 1: Swallow the gravy. Well, do you know what's really bad
38:12
Speaker 1: is I can no longer go to Red Rooster with Craig.
38:15
Speaker 2: Did they ban you?
38:16
Speaker 1: No, Craig. Because Craig drinks the gravy.
38:19
Speaker 2: Ew.
38:20
Speaker 1: He'll get a fee.
38:21
Speaker 2: Slurp it or straw it.
38:23
Speaker 1: Literally just like after he's done dunking his chips or whatever,
38:26
Speaker 1: what is left over, he will just.
38:27
Speaker 2: What, like it's a little macchiato?
38:28
Speaker 1: Yes, like it's a little espresso. And I'm just like
38:32
Speaker 1: we're never eating this together ever again. So yeah, technically
38:37
Speaker 1: I've seen Craig swallow the gravy. So... Alpha, if you
38:45
Speaker 1: untie me, I will literally suck your dick right now.
38:48
Speaker 1: I told you, for the last time, I love the pussy.
38:52
Speaker 6: I'll cradle the balls, stroke the shaft, work the pipe,
38:57
Speaker 6: swallow the gravy.
38:58
Speaker 2: Get it over here, buddy.
38:59
Speaker 6: Let's do this.
39:00
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah.
39:06
Speaker 3: Swallow the because he was delirious or something he's had
39:08
Speaker 3: like i think he kept taking drugs he'd like oh
39:11
Speaker 3: yeah he's coming down yeah so they tied him up yeah.
39:17
Speaker 4: What an experience that movie was to just like it
39:20
Speaker 4: starts without starting and you get a little so good
39:22
Speaker 4: booty sweat do whatever the energy drink was from al
39:25
Speaker 4: pacino and then the three fake movie trailers i.
39:29
Speaker 1: Just for the record want to let Kevin Hart know
39:31
Speaker 1: that if someone's offering you a blowjob saying you like pussy,
39:35
Speaker 1: that's got nothing to do with it, mate. There's no
39:36
Speaker 1: vagina involved in any blowjob. So that is not an
39:40
Speaker 1: accurate or an acceptable denial. It's not Kevin Hart, isn't it?
39:46
Speaker 2: It's another black guy. Oh, no.
39:48
Speaker 1: Really? You're so racist. That sounded so much like Kevin Hart. Yeah, no,
39:51
Speaker 1: it's not.
39:52
Speaker 2: Oh, they all sound the same too, do they?
39:55
Speaker 1: Wait, who's they? What are you talking about? I'm talking
39:58
Speaker 1: about one individual. Yeah, exactly. What do you mean, you people?
40:03
Speaker 1: I'm not a pussy. Jacob was supposed to be here
40:07
Speaker 1: on this episode, but he had to bail last minute.
40:09
Speaker 1: But he did send me through something that he noticed.
40:12
Speaker 2: Oh, he's drinking some gravy.
40:14
Speaker 1: Drinking gravy is, I think, better than swallow the gravy.
40:16
Speaker 2: I was trying to be nice.
40:17
Speaker 5: Yeah.
40:18
Speaker 2: He's swallowing gravy.
40:19
Speaker 1: That's, you know.
40:20
Speaker 2: I'll get a double zing, I think.
40:22
Speaker 1: And American gravy is white and chunky as well.
40:25
Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
40:26
Speaker 1: Can they get anything white? Their gravy's white.
40:30
Speaker 2: Oh, they have a different gravy.
40:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's because most of them are circumcised. No, I know.
40:35
Speaker 2: Our gravy's brown.
40:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, our gravy's brown, just like God intended. It must
40:40
Speaker 1: be during one of the.
40:43
Speaker 1: That are going on in Young's mind. But he says,
40:46
Speaker 1: Volker has a line, what about the dial-in? Which Tim says,
40:50
Speaker 1: it confirms that the ship can be commanded to drop
40:53
Speaker 1: out by an incoming wormhole. To me, the implication is
40:56
Speaker 1: a ninth Chevron dial is because it's a code instead
40:59
Speaker 1: of a standard gate address that they've also established in
41:02
Speaker 1: the show is dependent on Destiny being nearly out of FTL.
41:07
Speaker 1: I don't understand what I just read. Well.
41:12
Speaker 2: The ship has to stay in FTL for four hours minimum.
41:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. We find that out next week. I think they've
41:19
Speaker 1: said it before.
41:19
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
41:20
Speaker 3: And the nine Chevron code in my mind makes destiny
41:27
Speaker 3: drop out.
41:27
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it has to.
41:30
Speaker 7: Yeah.
41:30
Speaker 1: But then there was that episode when Chloe and Scott
41:33
Speaker 1: and Eli were stuck on the planet and they couldn't,
41:35
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They were dialing destiny, but destiny took off
41:38
Speaker 1: anyway because it was still the, destiny gates yeah so
41:42
Speaker 1: like it wasn't a milky way gate yeah so like
41:45
Speaker 1: they can't like you can't within the galaxy the destinies
41:48
Speaker 1: and you can't dial it and it would drop out
41:51
Speaker 1: of FTL at that.
41:53
Speaker 3: Point and I don't think it would drop out of
41:55
Speaker 3: FTL yeah so I'm the four hour thing.
41:57
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the context of uh Vulcan says what
42:00
Speaker 1: about a dial in um I'm not sure what that
42:05
Speaker 1: text was that yeah I'm not sure what that would
42:06
Speaker 1: have to do with them getting attacked by the alien
42:08
Speaker 1: ships and stuff What about a dial-in? Confirms that the
42:12
Speaker 1: ship can be commanded to drop out by an incoming wormhole. Oh,
42:16
Speaker 1: maybe they're trying to drop out of FTL. And he's saying,
42:19
Speaker 1: what about a dial-in? Well, still no sign of the aliens.
42:24
Speaker 1: The ship's main weapon is online, and we diverted as
42:27
Speaker 1: much power as we can to the shields.
42:29
Speaker 4: Sir, we have all available military personnel patrolling the gaps
42:33
Speaker 4: between the active weapons batteries, but it's a lot of
42:35
Speaker 4: real estate.
42:36
Speaker 1: We could go to two men teams, cover a little
42:38
Speaker 1: more ground, but We'll be stretching ourselves pretty thin.
42:41
Speaker 7: Well, let's do it. If there is a breach, I
42:43
Speaker 7: would rather be on it fast with a little less
42:45
Speaker 7: firepower than the other way around. Also, let's break out
42:48
Speaker 7: whatever spare ordnance we have from the Lucian Alliance and
42:51
Speaker 7: arm as many civilians as possible.
42:53
Speaker 3: Well, they don't have a lot of training.
42:54
Speaker 5: I'll command them myself. We'll stick to defensive positions between
42:57
Speaker 5: here and the gate room. They'll be fine.
43:00
Speaker 6: Yes, sir.
43:03
Speaker 1: Anything else?
43:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I wish they had ended it.
43:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, because for me that's the perfect kind of command style.
43:19
Speaker 1: He's coming in, he's giving orders, and people are like, yes,
43:23
Speaker 1: anding him, but he's also providing the context when he's like,
43:27
Speaker 1: Big Tits McGee says, you know, we could do. Direct
43:32
Speaker 1: quote from the feminist on the show. Hey, let women
43:37
Speaker 1: have big cans.
43:38
Speaker 2: Oh, man.
43:40
Speaker 1: Let them. Who's stopping?
43:41
Speaker 7: Yeah.
43:45
Speaker 1: When she says, you know, oh, let's, you know, we
43:47
Speaker 1: could do two man teams instead of four man teams.
43:49
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, yeah, I'd rather us get there
43:51
Speaker 1: faster with a little less manpower than the other way around.
43:53
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't need to add that. Like he could
43:55
Speaker 1: just be one of those assholes. It's like, well, just
43:56
Speaker 1: follow my orders, but he's providing the reasoning behind it
44:00
Speaker 1: so that everyone's on the same page. And to me,
44:02
Speaker 1: like that is the kind of leader you need. It's like,
44:05
Speaker 1: this is the reason I'm giving you this order. I
44:07
Speaker 1: don't need to tell you, but I'm giving it to
44:08
Speaker 1: you so that you can understand my thought process and
44:10
Speaker 1: And going down the line, that's going to help you
44:13
Speaker 1: understand where my brain is and you're probably going to
44:15
Speaker 1: be able to then preempt my orders going down the
44:17
Speaker 1: track because you're going to learn my command style. So
44:19
Speaker 1: I really, really like that.
44:20
Speaker 3: I've spoken to Rhys about that too in terms of
44:24
Speaker 3: when you're a parent. And so it's easy to be
44:27
Speaker 3: impatient with a child and just kind of be like,
44:30
Speaker 3: just do it because I said. But if you take
44:33
Speaker 3: just an extra few seconds to explain the reasoning, it's
44:37
Speaker 3: quite amazing how, they'll just turn around and be like, oh, okay,
44:41
Speaker 3: think about themselves critically and go, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
44:44
Speaker 2: That's why we do this.
44:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I still remember there's just certain conversation I
44:48
Speaker 1: remember having with my parents as a little kid and
44:50
Speaker 1: just like certain things just stick in your brain. Like,
44:52
Speaker 1: because after you have that conversation with those kids, they're
44:54
Speaker 1: going to go away. Sometimes they're going to go away
44:56
Speaker 1: and think about that.
44:56
Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:57
Speaker 1: And it actually sort of, I mean, not everything's going
44:59
Speaker 1: to stick, but some things will. You have to say
45:01
Speaker 1: it a thousand times.
45:02
Speaker 7: Yeah.
45:03
Speaker 4: As far as I can tell, there's nothing interfering with
45:05
Speaker 4: the normal operation of the FTL drive.
45:07
Speaker 1: Ship just doesn't want to go anywhere.
45:09
Speaker 3: What about a dial-in?
45:10
Speaker 4: The gate's quiet.
45:13
Speaker 1: Where's John? So, yeah, so they do... All right, what's new?
45:19
Speaker 2: What about a dial-in?
45:20
Speaker 1: Well, they're wondering why the ship won't go.
45:23
Speaker 6: Oh, right.
45:23
Speaker 1: As far as I can tell, there's nothing interfering with
45:25
Speaker 1: the normal operation of the FTL drive. The ship just
45:28
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go anywhere.
45:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
45:30
Speaker 1: So they are running through the checklist of why wouldn't
45:32
Speaker 1: the FTL be working, and Volker says, what about a dial-in?
45:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
45:36
Speaker 1: The nine Chevron dial-in. Yeah, I'd say it'd have to
45:39
Speaker 1: be because, yeah, they wouldn't have anyone else, you know,
45:41
Speaker 1: off-world or anything like that. And, yeah, there's none of
45:45
Speaker 1: the Stargates from inside this galaxy would, yeah, would be
45:49
Speaker 1: able to stop it from getting a DFTL.
45:52
Speaker 2: We've proven that.
45:53
Speaker 7: Yeah.
45:53
Speaker 2: What's old mates on the ship there, Franklin?
45:57
Speaker 1: Hey, it's Franklin.
46:00
Speaker 2: Why was the ship being extra like? Just dramatic.
46:04
Speaker 7: Yeah.
46:04
Speaker 4: You know, it was like, well, that only leaves one question.
46:08
Speaker 4: You know, it was like, oh, there's only one more
46:10
Speaker 4: thing for you to do. I'm like, why are you
46:13
Speaker 4: talking like that?
46:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't we establish a couple of weeks ago that
46:18
Speaker 1: Franklin is the more helpful of the people in Russia's brain?
46:21
Speaker 4: Compared to his wife. And it's his wife that's the
46:23
Speaker 4: doing one. How did we sum her up? That she was.
46:27
Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact adjective, but yeah, no. She's dead.
46:32
Speaker 1: She is dead.
46:34
Speaker 4: But just something in there in that audio just reminded
46:37
Speaker 4: me of something that I wanted to ask before when
46:40
Speaker 4: I said that Young remembers all of this. So is
46:44
Speaker 4: he going to sit there, post this episode and think, was...
46:49
Speaker 4: Those situations, was that a manifestation of my own thoughts
46:55
Speaker 4: and everybody walking around reacting and acting in front of
46:59
Speaker 4: me and their decision making and the way that they
47:01
Speaker 4: would emotionally, you know, repel or whatever might happen?
47:06
Speaker 2: Is that the way that I look at these people
47:08
Speaker 2: or is that the ship?
47:12
Speaker 3: Telling me that's a really good question you know like
47:14
Speaker 3: the fact that like he senses the other people yeah
47:17
Speaker 3: it's been in their minds and is it programming it
47:19
Speaker 3: saying well this is how i predict eli would act
47:22
Speaker 3: this is how i predict.
47:24
Speaker 4: Only because scott right because when he sends off chloe
47:26
Speaker 4: and he walks like.
47:27
Speaker 1: You son of a bitch and just.
47:29
Speaker 4: Walks up and clocks his superior like it wasn't like
47:32
Speaker 4: they had an argument it wasn't like later on in
47:34
Speaker 4: the episode where scott went around and said oi pull
47:37
Speaker 4: your shit together because people want me to take command.
47:39
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it because you're a great leader and
47:42
Speaker 4: you just need to get your finger out of your
47:44
Speaker 4: ass for a second.
47:45
Speaker 2: And even then he was like willing to.
47:46
Speaker 1: Hey, don't knock it till you try it at me.
47:47
Speaker 1: Of course not.
47:48
Speaker 4: And Young agitating Scott to the point where Scott did
47:52
Speaker 4: push him a couple of times and he's.
47:53
Speaker 1: Like, fucking hit me, you know.
47:54
Speaker 7: So.
47:56
Speaker 4: That got to the point where that was real, right?
47:59
Speaker 4: That one, that wasn't like ended up being a rerun.
48:01
Speaker 4: So like clearly the Chloe one wasn't, but is that
48:04
Speaker 4: the ship saying to Young, Scott's only like a half
48:09
Speaker 4: bad day away from cracking you to the floor. Or
48:14
Speaker 4: is that Young's interpretation of Scott's sort of emotional state
48:19
Speaker 4: when it comes to Chloe?
48:21
Speaker 3: Maybe Young in that scene where Scott was dressing him
48:24
Speaker 3: down was like, go on, hit me then, just to
48:26
Speaker 3: see if that was real.
48:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:29
Speaker 4: Like just them sitting there at the end going, hang on,
48:31
Speaker 4: like Eli's saying, hang on, so the ship has the
48:33
Speaker 4: ability to get in our minds?
48:34
Speaker 2: That's gross.
48:35
Speaker 4: And I'm like, mate, by the looks of things, it's
48:37
Speaker 4: already done that. It's just like properly invaded young.
48:41
Speaker 1: It knows everything you're thinking about while you're jerking off
48:44
Speaker 1: over gin.
48:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
48:47
Speaker 1: The ship's horny, mate. Didn't he even say in this episode,
48:50
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, yeah, my mum visited last week and
48:55
Speaker 1: she was in Dr. Park's body and that was kind
48:57
Speaker 1: of weird. He's like, basically, that was a tough wank. Yeah.
49:05
Speaker 2: But I got there.
49:06
Speaker 1: If anything, I would think.
49:07
Speaker 2: Drink the gravy, mummy.
49:08
Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus. If anything, you would think that.
49:13
Speaker 2: Just pushing through.
49:14
Speaker 1: You would think that Scott would have actually been happy
49:20
Speaker 1: that Chloe was given up because then he doesn't have
49:22
Speaker 1: to break up with her. He doesn't have to have
49:23
Speaker 1: that awkward breakup conversation that feels like he's coming.
49:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
49:27
Speaker 2: Oh, no, that girl I've been kind of sleeping with.
49:29
Speaker 1: She's been given away.
49:29
Speaker 2: She's got a weird alien STD. Oh, she's been handed
49:33
Speaker 2: over again.
49:35
Speaker 1: Oh, Lieutenant James Young gave Chloe away. I'm so upset.
49:39
Speaker 1: Console me. Please console me with your banging double D.
49:42
Speaker 2: I know you're still.
49:42
Speaker 1: Pining over me.
49:46
Speaker 2: I'd forgotten about the banging.
49:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's like, oh, Lieutenant James, I'm just a pretzel
49:54
Speaker 1: with three holes. Pick one.
49:56
Speaker 7: Like. Yeah.
49:58
Speaker 2: Three holes. Yeah, okay.
50:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about it. I got a chopstick here I
50:05
Speaker 1: can stick down your third hole.
50:06
Speaker 2: Jesus.
50:07
Speaker 1: I mean, feel free to knock. Sounds like a Gibson
50:09
Speaker 1: Brothers podcast. I got wood or I got metal.
50:14
Speaker 2: Do you know what.
50:14
Speaker 3: Ability I really wish they had have given Eli in
50:17
Speaker 3: this show? Because he's a gamer.
50:20
Speaker 5: Yeah.
50:21
Speaker 2: If he was like the best at shooting the gun rail. Ooh,
50:25
Speaker 2: that would have been good. Like on the screen, he's like, yeah,
50:27
Speaker 2: got him.
50:27
Speaker 3: And he's like getting hyped up about it.
50:30
Speaker 1: Actually, that would have been a nice precursor for a
50:32
Speaker 1: reason for him and Greer to then bond, for then
50:35
Speaker 1: Greer to be like the big brother helping him out
50:38
Speaker 1: to score.
50:38
Speaker 2: Don't get cocky, kid.
50:40
Speaker 1: I got one.
50:41
Speaker 2: Don't get cocky.
50:43
Speaker 1: Don't get cocky. How excited was he when Scott relieved
50:48
Speaker 1: Young from command in one of the scenarios and was like, okay,
50:50
Speaker 1: do this, do this, do this. We're about to defend.
50:52
Speaker 1: And Greer was like, all right, let's.
50:55
Speaker 2: We're in charge.
50:56
Speaker 1: It was like Guinan just touched his hand. He was like,
50:59
Speaker 1: all right, yes, sir. Fucking psychopath.
51:05
Speaker 2: One episode, just let him loose. Let him loose.
51:08
Speaker 1: He's had two episodes where he's been let loose with
51:10
Speaker 1: the fucking flamethrower. What more does he want?
51:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not on aliens, not on plants. They were
51:15
Speaker 2: alien plants. I know, that's what I mean.
51:17
Speaker 1: Alien plants and alien bugs.
51:19
Speaker 3: Alien bugs.
51:20
Speaker 1: Alien bugs.
51:21
Speaker 4: Just him and like Simeon or something. Just let him,
51:25
Speaker 4: him and T-Bag.
51:26
Speaker 2: Torch him. Torch T-Bag.
51:29
Speaker 1: Extra crispy.
51:30
Speaker 3: The other thing that I really liked was when the
51:32
Speaker 3: explosion went off, the practical effect with the windblower behind
51:38
Speaker 3: Young's head. It was kind of reminded me of the
51:40
Speaker 3: Dark Knight when Rachel dies.
51:43
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:44
Speaker 2: It had the same effect. That's one. Just appreciating. Mitch, Mitch.
51:50
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
51:53
Speaker 1: Hey.
51:54
Speaker 3: Now we're talking.
51:57
Speaker 1: Hit me. Hit me.
52:18
Speaker 2: Why so serious?
52:21
Speaker 1: Man.
52:23
Speaker 3: How many frigging Dark Knight things were there in this?
52:26
Speaker 3: Shout out to Hans Zimmer fans. I bet there's heaps listening.
52:29
Speaker 2: He's in the country.
52:30
Speaker 1: Well, hey, look, I'm a Hans Zimmer fan.
52:32
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
52:33
Speaker 3: I'm just not a fucking Nolan fan. Well, he didn't
52:35
Speaker 3: write the score, so you're welcome. I'm sure he would
52:41
Speaker 3: have tried.
52:45
Speaker 2: I wonder when he will, mate.
52:46
Speaker 1: You think Clint Eastwood does.
52:47
Speaker 2: A little bit of that? We have to get all
52:48
Speaker 2: instruments in.
52:51
Speaker 3: When you're working on a Christopher Nolan set, you're one
52:54
Speaker 3: of the three best people in the world at what
52:56
Speaker 3: you do.
52:56
Speaker 4: I mean, in fairness. He's going from working with Hans
52:59
Speaker 4: Zimmer to Ludwig Goranson. I mean, they are kind of
53:02
Speaker 4: the goats.
53:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's also working with... He's talking about the
53:05
Speaker 1: actors too. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like Maggie Gyllenhaal,
53:09
Speaker 1: Katie Holmes.
53:11
Speaker 2: Maggie Gyllenhaal. In fairness, he never said that in 2005.
53:16
Speaker 1: He said it to fucking Anne Hathaway in the third one. No,
53:19
Speaker 1: second one. She was in the second one.
53:21
Speaker 4: By 2012, he'd done Inception and, you know, he was
53:24
Speaker 4: working on Interstellar.
53:27
Speaker 1: What's 2005 got to do with it?
53:28
Speaker 2: Katie Holmes.
53:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying the second movie is when he
53:32
Speaker 1: said it to Anne Hathaway. No, third movie.
53:35
Speaker 2: He's in Rising.
53:37
Speaker 1: Oh, is it? See, they all blend together with me.
53:39
Speaker 1: So she was in the one with Bane.
53:41
Speaker 5: Yeah.
53:41
Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
53:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. She's the one that takes him there.
53:44
Speaker 3: She's the one that he gave the pearl necklace to.
53:47
Speaker 3: And then she stole his mum's pearl necklace.
53:51
Speaker 1: But, yeah, like the dude that played Two-Face, what's his
53:54
Speaker 1: fucking name? Poor man's Matthew McConaughey. What's his name?
53:58
Speaker 2: Aaron Eckhart.
53:58
Speaker 1: Aaron Eckhart. Come on, you tell me Aaron Eckhart is
54:01
Speaker 1: one of the three top best people. Well, he's one
54:03
Speaker 1: of the top three Aaron Eckhart impersonators. I'll give him that. But, like.
54:07
Speaker 2: Eckhart, sir.
54:08
Speaker 1: He's not even the top three best Two-Faces. that have
54:12
Speaker 1: ever been committed to screen.
54:13
Speaker 2: Harvey Dent. You just said so many numbers there. I'm
54:15
Speaker 2: so confused. The third best Two-Face. He's not even one
54:20
Speaker 2: of the top three Two-Faces.
54:21
Speaker 1: He's not one of the top three Two-Faces.
54:25
Speaker 2: He was pretty good. He was pretty good. He was good.
54:28
Speaker 1: He's no Tommy Lee Jones.
54:30
Speaker 2: We never saw him as Harvey Dent.
54:33
Speaker 1: I didn't say Harvey Dent. I said Two-Face.
54:34
Speaker 2: In the courtroom. As he got sprayed by acid.
54:38
Speaker 1: But I didn't say Harvey Dent. I said Two-Face. Well,
54:40
Speaker 1: we do see Aaron Eckhart as Two-Face.
54:42
Speaker 2: Are we talking live action?
54:44
Speaker 1: No, we're just talking in general. Because I still maintain
54:48
Speaker 1: that the best Jason Todd of all time was Jensen Ackles.
54:50
Speaker 1: And that was just a voice role. Of course. Yeah.
54:53
Speaker 2: But, you know.
54:55
Speaker 1: Aaron Eckhart couldn't tell that the Joker was the Joker
54:58
Speaker 1: because he was wearing a nurse's mask.
54:59
Speaker 2: Like, come on, mate.
55:00
Speaker 1: He did just have half his body blown off.
55:03
Speaker 2: Still.
55:05
Speaker 4: Imagine the anaesthetic he would have had running through his system.
55:09
Speaker 2: He had no skin on half his body.
55:10
Speaker 7: Yeah.
55:11
Speaker 1: He still had enough, like, what do you call it,
55:15
Speaker 1: consciousness to, like, react once the mask came off. Like,
55:18
Speaker 1: that was a big reveal.
55:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:20
Speaker 4: But that's just primal instinct, mate, you know?
55:23
Speaker 1: You fucking Nolan cuck.
55:24
Speaker 2: He was probably thinking about Rachel.
55:26
Speaker 6: Yeah.
55:26
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, the nurse is in again.
55:28
Speaker 1: Which one?
55:28
Speaker 3: Oh.
55:30
Speaker 2: You're not.
55:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can understand being fired up about Katie Holmes
55:34
Speaker 3: getting murdered, but.
55:34
Speaker 2: I don't know.
55:37
Speaker 1: I mean.
55:37
Speaker 2: I don't know.
55:38
Speaker 1: Like Maggie Gyllenhaal is the.
55:40
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mind. Oh, my God.
55:42
Speaker 1: I just realized.
55:43
Speaker 2: What's it?
55:43
Speaker 1: I just realized. I just realized. Oh, yeah.
55:45
Speaker 2: With Daniel Jackson.
55:46
Speaker 1: I just realized something, though.
55:48
Speaker 2: What?
55:50
Speaker 1: Heath Ledger fucked both Gyllenhaals.
55:52
Speaker 4: Yeah.
55:52
Speaker 7: Well.
55:54
Speaker 1: In different ways. But even if they were both alive,
55:56
Speaker 1: he would have fucked them in different ways.
55:57
Speaker 2: And their dad.
55:59
Speaker 1: Wait, what?
56:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he did.
56:03
Speaker 1: Who's their dad? He came to set one day and
56:06
Speaker 1: just railed him. And then blew him up.
56:11
Speaker 4: I just want to say I don't feel anything weird
56:12
Speaker 4: about the way that you had sex with my son
56:14
Speaker 4: in that cowboy movie.
56:15
Speaker 2: But also, can I talk to you privately? I've just
56:17
Speaker 2: got a couple of questions to ask you.
56:20
Speaker 4: All right, well, I mean, we said something about the
56:23
Speaker 4: idea that it didn't give us any particular closure. Maybe
56:26
Speaker 4: this episode would have done better without that rush thing.
56:29
Speaker 2: I want to hope that you put that rush scene in.
56:33
Speaker 4: It feels like it's a very subtle tease towards next step.
56:38
Speaker 4: It's not just like, oh, this is the rush ending.
56:40
Speaker 4: It feels like, are we, I mean, what are we,
56:43
Speaker 4: six episodes in? But, like, how long does he want to,
56:48
Speaker 4: I don't know, There's a lot of secrets that Russia's
56:50
Speaker 4: got going on. I feel like that was almost like
56:52
Speaker 4: a tag scene as if like, wait, just keep an
56:55
Speaker 4: eye on this for next week.
56:57
Speaker 2: Yeah. So.
56:59
Speaker 6: Gravy.
57:00
Speaker 3: Get into geek.
57:02
Speaker 7: Get into gate Stargate podcast.
57:05
Speaker 1: Get into it now before it's too late.