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Cynthia Frelund Joins Bucky and Team to Share Expectations of 2024 Season | Huddle Up · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: Coverage of the NFL Scouting Combine continues from the Indiana
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  Speaker 2: Convention Center in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 1: This is Huddle Up J P.
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  Speaker 2: Shadwick, John Osier, Bucky Brooks, and Cynthia Freeland, NFL media
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  Speaker 2: analytics expert.
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  Speaker 1: We're running deep on the show today. Indeed, how are
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  Speaker 1: we doing?
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  Speaker 3: That's how are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm great, I'm great. It's so good to see you.
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  Speaker 4: I've always love working with Bucky.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you guys try to steal him for most
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  Speaker 5: of the season, but you know, it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's all good.
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  Speaker 6: He's a good draft.
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  Speaker 4: The path to the draft, yeah, they may.
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  Speaker 7: They may try and orchestrate the trade. They may try
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  Speaker 7: and swap me out for you, Cynthia, you never know.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I would love to come down.
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  Speaker 1: To Jacksonville, nice beaches.
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  Speaker 4: I get that quarters.
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  Speaker 3: If you're well, I mean, you're not.
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  Speaker 2: The first person's lead to ask. Let's start with the
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  Speaker 2: thirty thousand foot view of the Jaguars eight and restart
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  Speaker 2: what one in five finish and here they are nine
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  Speaker 2: and eight, new defensive staff. A lot of things have happened.
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  Speaker 2: So what's your view of the Jaguars heading into this offseason, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think there's like it sounds it probably didn't feel good
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  Speaker 5: as a Jags fan because you had such huge expectations
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  Speaker 5: and it didn't match it. But I don't actually think
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  Speaker 5: they're in a bad spot. Like this is much better
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  Speaker 5: than maybe people. When you have this, you know, a
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  Speaker 5: really important position where you throw the ball kind of
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  Speaker 5: set makes the whole rest of the stuff work out
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  Speaker 5: a lot better. Right, So I think it's tinkering a
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  Speaker 5: little bit here and there. Obviously, you know, the longer
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  Speaker 5: a coach can be with the GM can be with
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  Speaker 5: a team that you get more on the same page
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  Speaker 5: and make everyone kind of row the boat in the
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  Speaker 5: same direction. When is that cheesy thing we all need
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  Speaker 5: to row in the same direction. Yeah, exactly, row the boat.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, I think the longer they're together, the
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  Speaker 5: better it will. It'll improve the you know, the draft.
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  Speaker 5: I love your analytics guy, Ryan Paganetti's the best. So
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of great things coming up.
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  Speaker 6: We tend to pick apart the team we cover in fans,
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  Speaker 6: pick apart the negatives, and Trevor struggled in the last
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  Speaker 6: four or five games this season, mostly I think because
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  Speaker 6: the injuries again from the thirty thousand foot view of
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  Speaker 6: somebody who doesn't see him every week, but who is
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  Speaker 6: looking at him in comparison to the rest of the league.
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  Speaker 6: To talk about Trevor a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think maybe he gets underrated because like when
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  Speaker 5: you have the in the same division, the expectations for CJ.
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  Speaker 5: Stroud last year were nowhere near where they ended up being,
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  Speaker 5: Like everyone thought the Texans were gonna be like two games,
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  Speaker 5: three games, and so it ends in the same division
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  Speaker 5: and it just feels different, right, like they have this
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  Speaker 5: big change reset. You know, obviously everyone's looking at the
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  Speaker 5: quarterback position there for all the reasons that we can name,
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  Speaker 5: but it worked out really well for them, and that
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  Speaker 5: just feels like this weird comparison right next to a
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  Speaker 5: team that literally had like the most impressive playoff victory
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  Speaker 5: just the season prior. So it was like, I think
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  Speaker 5: that's where people maybe like it's easy to pick. Of course,
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  Speaker 5: you love something, I want to pick it apart. You
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  Speaker 5: want to know everything about it. But I think it
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  Speaker 5: like dialing it back a little bit, a little bit healthier,
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  Speaker 5: a better old line, I'm sorry, fixed a little and
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  Speaker 5: then another year of you know, I would like Doug
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  Speaker 5: Peters in the cold place. I'm not in charge here,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, I think that that would be a
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  Speaker 5: really good thing.
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  Speaker 7: For for Trevor the office line Dog Peters, Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, why wouldn't I Why would I want
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  Speaker 5: to take? Like like if I've got Doug Peterson, I
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  Speaker 5: want him to tell me what to do?
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  Speaker 4: Like, why would I?
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  Speaker 5: I got the maserati, I don't know the fancy cars.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not drying the prius, you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying these priests.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to go carnalga.
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  Speaker 3: But I get it.
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  Speaker 7: So in thinking about that, because you briefly talked about
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  Speaker 7: the landscape, like at quarterback in this division, we talked
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  Speaker 7: about three young quarterbacks and then Trevor Lawrence is like
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  Speaker 7: the established quarterback, right, so like let's let's let's talk
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  Speaker 7: about the quarterbacks in the division. Like how does Trevor
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  Speaker 7: stuck out with C. J. Stroud and Anthony Richardson and
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  Speaker 7: Will Lefsley? How do you expect that to continue to
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  Speaker 7: play out?
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  Speaker 5: I think this is like a low key good quarterback division.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Anthony Richardson will come back and hopefully remain healthy.
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  Speaker 5: We were high on him draft last year. It was
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  Speaker 5: a promising start. I would love to see it continue,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't know who he is yet, like I
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  Speaker 5: and I don't think anyone can.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's exciting, but I don't. He just hasn't played enough.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know. I think C. J.
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  Speaker 5: Stroud really benefits from you know, obviously Bobby slow draw johnsonthing.
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  Speaker 5: All of that infrastructure that's in place to help him
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  Speaker 5: really succeed was part and parcel to what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: He's awesome on it on his own, but everyone needs
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  Speaker 5: the surrounding cast to make them better as well.
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  Speaker 4: So that's interesting to me. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on in Tennessee. Like I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what I'm gonna see, Like I know that's
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  Speaker 5: a big arm. No yeah, yeah, but but I but again,
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  Speaker 5: it's like we it's kind of unfair with him too,
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  Speaker 5: because like that was a weird end of the year.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, I mean like.
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  Speaker 4: Weird like weirdness.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not in the building.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what the like, I don't have a
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  Speaker 5: but it's just like it felt weird from the outside,
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  Speaker 5: So okay, you know, I wasn't expecting like Rabel not
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  Speaker 5: to be there. So now we reset, we you know,
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  Speaker 5: center on things they don't have. They've got a lot
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  Speaker 5: of money, the Titans, so they can whatever. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: happy with old man Trevor if I'm old the old
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  Speaker 5: grampa of the of the division.
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  Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland with us, this is huddle up? Where are
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  Speaker 1: you with? Calvin Ridley?
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  Speaker 2: And this the offensive weaponry around Trevor, And you know,
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  Speaker 2: it felt like it was a totally different offense when
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  Speaker 2: Christian Kirk was out of the equation, Say Jones was
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  Speaker 2: injured a lot of the year, and then Calvin Ridley
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  Speaker 2: is the guy that's coming up to free agency.
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  Speaker 4: I like Calvin Ridley.
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  Speaker 5: I'm I'm a fan of his ability to run super
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  Speaker 5: CHRISP Pristine routes. He's been that way since he was
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  Speaker 5: in college. He was that way, and it like that
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  Speaker 5: is what this man can do. So I think it's
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  Speaker 5: it's all gonna come down to figuring out.
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  Speaker 4: Like they've got.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if anyone really anticipated the cap being
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  Speaker 5: as high as it is. I think, you know, most
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  Speaker 5: people thought it would be fifteen twenty million more dollars
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  Speaker 5: thirty is a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you get a little more wiggle room.
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  Speaker 5: That all changes the dynamics of free agency, and it
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  Speaker 5: changes the dynamics of the draft. This isn't as deep
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  Speaker 5: of a wide receiver draft as we've seen in recent seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Ray Bucky is not is not as deep at the
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  Speaker 3: top like some guys at the top.
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  Speaker 5: And then it's just kind of narrow zough exactly like
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  Speaker 5: before you were like there's like legit like six seven
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  Speaker 5: guys who are pretty darn good, right, So you know
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  Speaker 5: this year it's just not as deep. So it's all
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  Speaker 5: about replacement value as well, So like what do you
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  Speaker 5: what do you like? How much are you gonna pay
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  Speaker 5: for it? Versus what it's cause it's never like him
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  Speaker 5: or like justin Jefferson.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's not it's not like.
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  Speaker 5: You're choosing between like like that's not the math, right,
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  Speaker 5: It's like how do we get how much did we
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  Speaker 5: get him for? And then what's what is the how
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  Speaker 5: do we fill out the rest of the pieces around
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  Speaker 5: the roster as well?
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  Speaker 6: Do you have any thoughts? Ryan Nielsen comes in love
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  Speaker 6: Ryan Nielsen, super smart, but then your thoughts.
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  Speaker 5: Well, look what happened in Atlanta last Yeah, I mean obviously,
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  Speaker 5: like you know, Saints, the pedigrees there, the right pieces.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't know if last year this time Atlanta
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  Speaker 5: fans were thinking, like, you know, our defense is actually
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  Speaker 5: going to be like one of the strongest that we've
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  Speaker 5: seen in quite some time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think people were saying that.
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  Speaker 5: And what makes them special it was figuring out how
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  Speaker 5: to create a pass rush without having premiere as the
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  Speaker 5: amount of premier pass rushers that other teams have. It
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  Speaker 5: was leveraging the spine of the defense and getting Jesse
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  Speaker 5: Bates and figuring out how to this. The middle of
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  Speaker 5: that defense was very, very like they understood the assignment
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  Speaker 5: and it worked out right. The spine of the defense
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  Speaker 5: was right.
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  Speaker 7: Now to fine of the defense definitely was right. He
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  Speaker 7: comes in a lot of energy, a lot of enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 7: He's talked about being able to kind of create a scheme.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the plays to the players.
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  Speaker 7: So when you look at the success that Atlanta Falcus,
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  Speaker 7: what was kind of like the biggest im by the quicker.
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  Speaker 3: Quick rise to the top.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was getting the right veterans in place
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  Speaker 5: to teach the people who were like not like like
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  Speaker 5: a slightly above average, but like not but younger, right, Like,
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  Speaker 5: It's like if you get the guys who are like
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  Speaker 5: better than average and younger, but you get the scheme
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  Speaker 5: and they're on the same page, then you actually have
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  Speaker 5: a really good team as opposed to like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you don't need you need some stars, but you don't
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  Speaker 5: need all stars along the front. You need people who
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  Speaker 5: get it and know where they're supposed to go and
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  Speaker 5: how to react and how to how to make things
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  Speaker 5: like understand the assignment and execute.
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  Speaker 1: Cynthia, always great to see.
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  Speaker 2: You're a popular person here on radio Row, so you've
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  Speaker 2: got places to be and go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we appreciate you taking.
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  Speaker 4: The while I appreciate hanging out with you guys. I'm
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  Speaker 4: never too listen.
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  Speaker 5: I'm very popular obviously, just kidding nowhere near you, Bucky.
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  Speaker 5: This is the first time BUCkies had like even five
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  Speaker 5: minutes for me since.
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  Speaker 1: Going on.
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  Speaker 4: He's the king of the combine.
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  Speaker 5: People were like, hey, there's a throwne over there that
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  Speaker 5: buffys and like, actually it is, so thanks for letting me.
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  Speaker 1: Freeland, out of here, popular here on Radio Row.
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  Speaker 2: Always good to get her thoughts on where the Jaguars stand.
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  Speaker 1: And she's all about the defensive coordinator Buffy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I think that's the biggest move that was made
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  Speaker 7: in the off season. Ryan Nielson coming in to I
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  Speaker 7: would say upgrade the defense because for a while there
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  Speaker 7: to beginning of the season, the defense was kind of
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  Speaker 7: carrying the team by the offense was going through his struggles.
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  Speaker 3: But now it's about the consistency.
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  Speaker 7: You talk about just eliminating some of the things that
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  Speaker 7: plagued the team. So a better pass rush and more
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  Speaker 7: consistent pass rush. We saw trevoron Walking and Josh Allen
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  Speaker 7: have success. Need to find another pass rush to be
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  Speaker 7: able to compete at a high level and then in
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  Speaker 7: the secondary, what is going to be like the style
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  Speaker 7: that is preferred in the back end?
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  Speaker 3: Are they gonna be an off team that.
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  Speaker 7: Plays soft coverage, keep everything in front, and then in
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  Speaker 7: the red zone they use tricks and gadgets to kind
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  Speaker 7: of keep people from scoring touchdowns. Or are they going
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  Speaker 7: to challenge people at the line of scrimmage? Your Nilsen
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  Speaker 7: and his introductory pressor talk about being nosed to nose,
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  Speaker 7: taking away some of the easy throws but not giving
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  Speaker 7: up the deep ball. Sounds great in theory, but can
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  Speaker 7: he get it done with this secondary as is presently constructed.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody would like to do that, right, Yeah, So
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  Speaker 6: does the personnel in your opinion? Can it play that?
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  Speaker 6: They need to add it in the draft. How do
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  Speaker 6: they get there?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think some of the personnel definitely
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  Speaker 7: can play that. When you think about Tyson Hamlet, like,
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  Speaker 7: he is definitely more comfortable being nosed to those That's
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  Speaker 7: how he played at Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: So he wants to be a bump and run corner.
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  Speaker 7: Is one of the reasons why he didn't have a
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  Speaker 7: lot of interceptions in college because his back was always
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  Speaker 7: to throw and he would make late breaks and late
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  Speaker 7: breakups on the past. Darius Williams is one who is
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  Speaker 7: really comfortable playing off, but he can go and challenge
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  Speaker 7: people knows the knows. I would think that maybe you
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  Speaker 7: bring in another corner because even though Antonio Johnson is
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  Speaker 7: slotted in to be a noooker, you still need to
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  Speaker 7: have more guys on the outside that can line up
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  Speaker 7: and play the style that they're talking about playing. I
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  Speaker 7: think the biggest edition would be Christopher Shard because as
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  Speaker 7: much as Nilsen would talk about what he wants to do,
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  Speaker 7: Christopher Shard would be tasked with getting the secondary to
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  Speaker 7: be able to execute it at a high level. Has
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  Speaker 7: success back in his day with the Legion of Boom
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  Speaker 7: in Seattle, has done a really good job of developing
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  Speaker 7: people young defensive backs throughout his tenure. Can't he get
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  Speaker 7: this group to go from good to great? That would
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  Speaker 7: be the key to whether this defense plays at high level?
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  Speaker 6: How tricky is it?
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  Speaker 3: Draft?
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  Speaker 6: In theory draft seventeenth overall pick, drafted corner and it's
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  Speaker 6: easy on paper to say, well that guy comes in
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  Speaker 6: any place nickel, then he kicks outside to outside the
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  Speaker 6: next year. But my experience is Nickel and outside can
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  Speaker 6: be different skill sets. So is it hard to automatically
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  Speaker 6: ask the guy that you think can be a starter
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  Speaker 6: long term outside to come in and be a nickel,
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  Speaker 6: which to me is a guy who has to have
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  Speaker 6: awareness all that stuff. Is that tricky?
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  Speaker 7: It is tricky? You know, there are two ways to
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  Speaker 7: think about the nickel position. Normally, your best player, your
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  Speaker 7: most experienced player, goes in the nickel because you have
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  Speaker 7: to deal with all of the stuff. You're a half linebacker,
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  Speaker 7: half safety, corner or whatever, so it requires you to
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  Speaker 7: know a lot about defensive ball, and so you want
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  Speaker 7: someone who has played a lot of snaps to kind
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  Speaker 7: of be in there. It's hard for a young player
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  Speaker 7: that jump in there. And so what you would do
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  Speaker 7: in a perfect world, one of those guys Campbell Williams
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  Speaker 7: would kick into the slot. The new corner would come
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  Speaker 7: and play right corner because that's the corner that doesn't
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  Speaker 7: see as many throws, and then you're.
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  Speaker 3: Able to play that way.
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  Speaker 7: It's hard to see with what But that's not how
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  Speaker 7: we're president constructed. So you have to make a decision.
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  Speaker 7: Am I going to just draft the skill set? Am
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  Speaker 7: I going to draft someone who's very comfortable inside? In
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  Speaker 7: the nickel or is a situation where maybe we feel
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  Speaker 7: good about the starting lineup, whereas Williams it's Antonio Johnson
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  Speaker 7: and Nickel. It's Campbell draft a long term situation because
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  Speaker 7: Williams and Campbell are free agents next year. Have someone
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  Speaker 7: that can come in, maybe in the dime package when
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  Speaker 7: they go six defensive backs. Let them get some experience
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  Speaker 7: so then next year they're ready to play as a
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  Speaker 7: full time starter at one of those outside spots.
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  Speaker 6: Hard to see a number seventeen pick being a six defensive.
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  Speaker 1: Won't be a six.
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  Speaker 7: He won't be a six he can There are ways,
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  Speaker 7: there's ways you can rotate those guys in big nickel,
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  Speaker 7: little nickel. You can change the configuration where you get
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  Speaker 7: enough snaps to justify the pick.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a tricky spot though. It is definitely a
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  Speaker 6: tricky draft as star.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, as we're presently constructed, because the other thing would
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  Speaker 7: be like how do you move all the pieces around?
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  Speaker 7: Because Wingard has been a guy that's kind of floated
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  Speaker 7: around and do something. Some games he's a nickel, other
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  Speaker 7: games he's uh the ornament atop to Christmas Tree. A
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  Speaker 7: lot of it depends on how good do you feel
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  Speaker 7: about a can we get one of these guys to
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  Speaker 7: go inside and play? A lot of that to be
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  Speaker 7: determined in OTAs and those things.
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  Speaker 6: But the ornament a top the Christmas tree.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the deep post player, yeah, you gotta be
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  Speaker 3: able to you know deep.
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  Speaker 1: The other I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The other part of the conversation with Cynthia a moment
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  Speaker 2: ago was wide receiver and Calvin Ridley and and to
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  Speaker 2: her point and john't know, You've made a similar point before.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you give up a.
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  Speaker 2: Thousand yards and what eight touchdowns he had, you got
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  Speaker 2: to find those numbers somewhere. And are you confident you
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  Speaker 2: can find them on the current team. Probably not right,
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  Speaker 2: So you got to go out and find that somewhere.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: So from Ridley's perspective, he'll be one of, if not
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: the top wide receiver and free agency if he goes
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: to the marketplace.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The strategy of franchise tagging they have till March fifth.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I know the conversations are ongoing, Buck, but this is
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: a fluid situation. It sounds like they want him back
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: from hearing them on the podium.
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  Speaker 3: The other day.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I think they definitely want him back. When
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: when the salary cap jumped up, it made it very
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: easy to envision Josh Allen returning, Calvin Ridley returning, and
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: the team keeping Cam Robinson. Before when you think about
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: it being only an addition of fifteen versus thirty, you
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: didn't know what's gonna happen. And now you can bring
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: all those guys back, and I think it's necessary to
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: bring Calvin back because what it's going to do's gonna
• 15:31
  Speaker 7: give you the continuity on the outside. We really did
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: get a chance to see the much hype wide receiver
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: corps play together due to injuries. You would like to
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: see what it looks like with Christian Kirk, Calvin Ridley,
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: Zay Jones, and Evan Ingram on the field for significant games.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Chemistry like two your you would like to see how
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: that works.
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  Speaker 7: And we talked about the offense worst best operating inside
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: out with Evan Ingram and Christian Kirk kind of setting
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: the table, then Calvin having something in, Zay Jones.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Filling it and some of the else. You would like
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: to see that play out.
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  Speaker 7: You would like to see Dustin have an entire offseason
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: where Trevor Lawrence and those guys can have.
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  Speaker 3: The continuity, So you have to figure out a way
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: to get it done.
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  Speaker 7: And I think it's interesting that Trent said, don't worry
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: about the draft compensation. That's right, because we can talk
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: about second round pick, third round pick or whatever. I
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: do know this, if you have multiple twos, you can
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: get the multiple threes, you can get the two back.
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: You can trade away to two threes and get a
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: two back if that's what you're worried about. And so
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: that's not the thing. The main thing is you want
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: to get Calvin done. So if you're gonna use the
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: franchise tag on Josh Allen, he doesn't hit the market.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: But the clock is taken in we only have a
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: couple of days.
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  Speaker 6: Top of the Christmas tree. Yeah, that's where it's taken apparently, so.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: The ornament Christmas.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: And then of course quarterback play Trevor Lawrence h of course,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson was asked about that. He is the guy,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and they've got to do a better job in situational
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: football with him, kind of keep him.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: I would say, I would say the lesson to be
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: learned becau as coaches always learned from playoff experiences in
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: those things after watching the San Francisco forty nine ers
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: have issues with the overtime rules. You will see a
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: more concerted effort to talk to the team about all
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: situations because a team may have lost a Super Bowl
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: because they were unaware of some of the minor details.
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: I would think that Doug Peterson will kind of pick
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: up on that and say, Hey, here's what we're gonna do.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: We're gonna make sure we explain all these situations to
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: the team. We're gonna talk to the team about red
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: zone goal shortyards when we can extend the ball over
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: the line because we saw that come up in the
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: playoffs and it costs to Baltimore Ravens. All of those
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: things will now be talked about because you can't assume
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: that just because the player has been in the league for.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Some time that they know everything.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: So this will not saying dummy down, but you go
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: back to high school and just make sure everything is
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: clearly communicated. So there aren't any great areas when it
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: comes to how we play in what we want to
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: do well.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: And if there's been an area where Trevor needs to improve,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: it's been that not that he's bad in situations, but
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: as a first, second, third year guy. He's still learning
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: those situations. I think situation.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: You could be.
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: You could argue that some of that causes the fumbles,
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: you know, knowing sort of when to give up on
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: a play, sort of being a little more aware there.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: I don't think it makes him a bad player that
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: he hasn't gotten through it yet because he's a young player.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: But as you move into fourth, fifth, sixth year, those
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: need to be more veteran guy things that he does.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: So far, it's felt like young guy a lot.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: Yes, And I will say this and looking at Pat
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: mahomes continued development. Everyonet to talk about the talent, the
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: best thing to talent that Pat Mahomes has done.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: He's also he's always.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: Retained the game change your thing, but he's become a
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: better game manager. One of the reasons why the Kinsey
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: the Chiefs were able to go on is yes, his
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: spectacular talent, but the way that he was able to
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: change his approach based on the team that he had
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: around him. When he had guys that were having problems
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: catching the ball in the offense wasn't as dynamic, he
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: learned how to play more small ball deak and dunk.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: They took care of the ball in the postseason. It
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: is now challenging Trevor to understand the situation but also
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: understand what you have around them the circumstances. Some games
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: you have to step it up, other games dial it
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: back because it were good enough to be able to
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: win it because the defense is playing well. Just understanding
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: all of those things comes with the experience as he
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: develops to expertise and being a franchise quarterback.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: All right, till I got you know from the docket.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, you about christ Yeah, Christe got put ornamentself.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: What a week. Nice to see you in.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Person, man, it was great being there, right, all right,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: let's do it.
• 19:38
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• 19:39
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