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Full Show Podcast: 07 October 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: Low magnitude four point eight hit southwest of Poronga Hoo
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Speaker 1: just before eleven also in Wellington and this would suck.
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Speaker 1: An apartment building evacuated over structural concerns. That happened at
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Speaker 1: about midnight after their five point seven yesterday. Israel issuing
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Speaker 1: new warnings for those in southern Lebanon following fresh strikes
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Speaker 1: in Bay Roots, described as some of the worst so far.
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Speaker 2: There were more than thirty attacks in southern suburbs of
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Speaker 2: b root Chiswila has a strong presence there, but it's
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Speaker 2: a densely populated residential area.
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Speaker 1: Two it's one year since the war began. With the
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Speaker 1: terror attacks, We've got a statement from the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: and Winston Peters shortly a resignation at Number ten Downing
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Speaker 1: Street overnight. No, not the new Prime Minister yet. Starmer's
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Speaker 1: chief of staff is out of there. Goodbye Sue Gray.
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Speaker 1: She's basically the fall guy for the donation scandal and
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Speaker 1: the energy payment cuts. Will it stop the bleeding? I
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Speaker 1: don't think so. Plus Australia's building codes, they're looking at
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Speaker 1: changing them and forcing new venues to have more toilets
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Speaker 1: for women. The study has found that at worst women
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Speaker 1: Q for thirteen minutes, men for nine minutes, disproportionately affecting
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Speaker 1: the fair.
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Speaker 3: Sex News and Views you trust has Starne Your Day
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Speaker 3: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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Speaker 3: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.
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Speaker 1: News talk said, be honestly, they didn't spend so much
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Speaker 1: time doing their makeup.
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Speaker 4: Ryan.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't the Navy have insurance for the boat that's sunk?
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Speaker 1: That sank? We will ask ron Mark. I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: I spoke to a friend of mine who works has
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Speaker 1: worked in the Navy previously. He says, how do you
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Speaker 1: ensure a warship? Imagine what the premiums would be. But
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Speaker 1: we will ask ron Mark about that front page of
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Speaker 1: the Herald this morning. Fast Track to controversy. This is
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Speaker 1: about the government's announcement yesterday of one hundred and forty
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Speaker 1: and nine projects to be included in its controversial Fast
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Speaker 1: Track Approvals legislation. One of them, and we are going
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Speaker 1: to speak to big mining or the mining industry in
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Speaker 1: a few moments time. One of them is trans Tasman Resources.
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Speaker 1: This is mining of the Taarannaki Sea bed. There was
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Speaker 1: a Supreme Court ruling, there was an environment court. You
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Speaker 1: can imagine how many rulings there have been on this
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Speaker 1: and it's basically been stuck going nowhere and now in
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Speaker 1: walks Shane Jones, in walks Chris Bishop and Wila, this
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Speaker 1: thing will hopefully get off the ground with one hurdle
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Speaker 1: to get through rather than a thousand problem there are.
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Speaker 1: This is according to Greenpeace and Forest and Bird and
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Speaker 1: the Green Party and the Labor Party and anyone else.
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Speaker 1: You can imagine, home to thirty species of marine mammals.
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Speaker 1: It's a migration passage for blue whales. Little blue penguins
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Speaker 1: apparently hang out here sixty five square meters. Is that
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Speaker 1: here's the other side of the coin, though the benefits
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Speaker 1: well one Norway is apparently looking at doing this very
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Speaker 1: same thing in two hundred and eighty thousand square kilometers
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Speaker 1: of the Arctic Sea. So I mean we're a drop
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Speaker 1: in the ocean, aren't we. One billion dollars in export
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Speaker 1: receipts per year, two hundred and fifty million dollars in
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Speaker 1: royalties and tax per year, a wealth boost to New
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Speaker 1: Zealand of one hundred and fifty billion dollars. Who cares
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Speaker 1: about the whales, you know, surely they can just go around.
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Speaker 1: It's a big ocean. This is the problem, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: When you're when your country is in such a state
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Speaker 1: as New Zealanders, you start I love the ocean. I
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Speaker 1: swim in the ocean. I do lots of swimming in
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Speaker 1: the ocean. I love it. But you start to think
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Speaker 1: more about the fact that we need to do something,
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Speaker 1: we need to grow something in order to at least
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Speaker 1: maintain ourselves as a as a first world country. Nine
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Speaker 1: to ninety two. We'd love your views on that. This morning,
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Speaker 1: eleven after five, cry and Bridge. Yeah, so we're going
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Speaker 1: to talk mining in just a few moments. Also this morning,
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Speaker 1: there is the new grocery supply cost indexes come out
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Speaker 1: a two point three percent increase. This is what the
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Speaker 1: suppliers charge food stuffs. It's done by infometrics, same number
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Speaker 1: as August chocolate and oil up. This is brad Olson's
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Speaker 1: outfit and there have been some criticisms of this number
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Speaker 1: because it's looking only at the number before discounts are applied.
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Speaker 1: So you know how everyone says the supermarket screw the
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Speaker 1: screw the suppliers down, Well, this number is pre screwing basically,
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Speaker 1: So take that with a grain of salt. It is
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Speaker 1: twelve after five, News Talk said B.
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Speaker 3: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 3: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and smit City New
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Speaker 3: Zealand's furniture beds and applying store.
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Speaker 1: News Talk said B. Fourteen minutes after five, news Talk
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Speaker 1: said B. Are people still using Google? So the search
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Speaker 1: advertising business is worth three hundred billion dollars. This is
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Speaker 1: globally three hundred billion dollars. It's massive and Google has
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Speaker 1: an iron grip on it. However, TikTok young people these days,
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Speaker 1: the young ones, they're not using Google in the same
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Speaker 1: way that we might use Google, that I might use Google.
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Speaker 1: They're going on TikTok and searching through TikTok, or they're
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Speaker 1: using Ai to search as opposed to Google, so they reckon.
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Speaker 1: This is the share of the US search ad market.
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Speaker 1: Google's share expected to drop below fifty percent next year
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Speaker 1: for the first time in more than a decade. Amazon up,
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Speaker 1: TikTok up, Ai up, So it's a could be an
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Speaker 1: existential threat to Google. Fifteen minutes a quarter past five,
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge, so one hundred and forty nine projects are
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Speaker 1: set to be included in the government's Fast track approvals build.
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Speaker 1: The majority are for housing, land development, infrastructure, as well
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Speaker 1: as renewable electricity generation. Eleven mining and eight quarrying projects
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Speaker 1: are on the list, with the hope it could help
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Speaker 1: with the government's goal to double the value of mineral
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Speaker 1: exports by twenty thirty five. Josie Vdal is with US
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Speaker 1: the Straterra Mining Chief executive. Josie, good morning, Good morning.
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Speaker 1: What do you say to the naysay is the opposition
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Speaker 1: who says this is going to wreck havoc on our environment?
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I say progress and jobs are good.
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Speaker 4: Contributing to the global supply chain of minerals everyone needs
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Speaker 4: is good, and the misinformation about the bill is not
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Speaker 4: so good. So I suggest that people actually read it
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Speaker 4: and understand it. The people who are on that list
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Speaker 4: still have to make an application to the Environmental Protection
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Speaker 4: Authority and still be assessed under the bill once it passes. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: we say, you know.
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Speaker 1: But the protections are greatly reduced for the environment. Ut
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Speaker 1: that I mean the environmental protections under the RMA Conservation Act,
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Speaker 1: the Wildlife Act. They can be overridden.
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Speaker 4: We don't believe that that will happen in mining, because
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Speaker 4: responsible min in New Zealand still has to meet the
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Speaker 4: same high standards to be a global player. Basically, there's
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Speaker 4: so much pressure on companies now to report on their
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Speaker 4: environment or social and governance standards.
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Speaker 5: So we're not going to see standards slip.
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Speaker 1: Okay, the trans if.
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Speaker 5: Things happen faster and more efficiency.
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Speaker 1: The trans Tasman resources of the Tataranhaki sea bed mining,
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Speaker 1: let's look at that for example. So you've had a
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court overturning the consents, You've had the Environment Court involved,
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Speaker 1: So how can it go ahead if all of those
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Speaker 1: protections that that have already been looked at are still
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Speaker 1: in place.
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Speaker 4: So what we had before was a system where the
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Speaker 4: only thing considered for a project was the environment by
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Speaker 4: a whole lot of people who were very fixated on
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Speaker 4: the environment. Now we can consider economic and environment. It's
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Speaker 4: slightly more appropriate.
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Speaker 1: Okay, which is fine, Josie, because this is this is
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Speaker 1: the point I think you're you're conceding that because we're
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Speaker 1: looking wider than just environment, there will be some more
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Speaker 1: detrimental environmental impacts. But we're taking a wider view here.
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Speaker 4: No, and I don't think there will be detrimental impacts
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Speaker 4: from mining because there's so there's been so many years
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Speaker 4: of measuring and managing them that people have the science
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Speaker 4: behind them. We have to you know, New Zealand has
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Speaker 4: to rely on science and technology and facts and evidence,
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Speaker 4: not emotion. And there's been a high amount of emotion
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Speaker 4: in this argument. And you know t here I have done.
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Speaker 4: There's spent millions of dollars on science to show that
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Speaker 4: what the impact of the seam with mining their planning
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Speaker 4: is and it's pretty low impact.
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Speaker 1: So species, no species will go extinct like they're claiming.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's home thirty species of marine mammals. We
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Speaker 1: won't lose.
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Speaker 4: Any Well, the research in science that TTR of God
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Speaker 4: suggests that that's a very turbulent part of the coast
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Speaker 4: and the sea beard is being churned up all the
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Speaker 4: time anyway. So you know, they have presented science and
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Speaker 4: they will continue to present science to the Environmental Protection
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Speaker 4: Authority when they go through their application.
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Speaker 1: All right, Josie, thank you very much for your time
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Speaker 1: this morning, really appreciate it. Just before you go, Josie,
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Speaker 1: you're expecting any more protest now that this is this
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Speaker 1: list has come out because you had those ones on
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Speaker 1: the terrace well.
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Speaker 4: I think it's unfortunate as I say that people aren't
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Speaker 4: following what is actually happening and I'm basically making stuff up.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, they probably they will protest because that's what
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Speaker 4: they do. That's a job for them.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, ye, Jase, thank you, I say, go science. Jase,
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Speaker 1: thank you for your time. Really appreciate your getting up
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Speaker 1: for us this morning. Joseph vdel who is with Straterra,
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Speaker 1: that's the Mining Association group, and one of their clients
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Speaker 1: is trans Tasman Resources, who are looking at doing the
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Speaker 1: Tadanhaki Sea bed mining. The benefits, as I mentioned earlier,
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Speaker 1: a billion dollars in export receipts per year, two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars in royal who's attacks and an
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Speaker 1: estimated wealth boost of one hundred and fifty billion dollars
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Speaker 1: over the lifetime of the project. What do you reckon?
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Speaker 1: Nine two nineteen after five.
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Speaker 3: The first word on the News of the Day early
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Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
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Speaker 3: Beds and a playing store.
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Speaker 1: News Talk Zippy twenty two minutes after five, loads of
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Speaker 1: feedback coming in on the fast Track Bill, which the
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Speaker 1: government has named the projects. Now we have a list
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Speaker 1: of one hundred and forty nine projects. We'll get to
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Speaker 1: that feedback in just a second. Also Ron Mark, the
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Speaker 1: Defense minister who worded the ship that sunk off the
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Speaker 1: coast of Sama on the show just before six, Gavin
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Speaker 1: Gray after the news at five point thirty right now
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Speaker 1: Sport and the Andrew Ordison is with us this morning.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, greetings, right and you a lot going on elsewhere?
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Speaker 1: Is that is? But Nral the Panthers have.
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Speaker 6: Made it for in a row they have, indeed, and
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Speaker 6: another piece of history really for Ivan Cleary the coach
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Speaker 6: and his team and of course son Nathan. But just
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Speaker 6: that team performance again holding on against Melbourne fourteen six,
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Speaker 6: and yeah, just part of I mean it hasn't been
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Speaker 6: seen before in the modern ear. I mean you have
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Speaker 6: to go back to nineteen sixty six, Saint George eleven
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Speaker 6: in a row, South Sydney with five in row in
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Speaker 6: nineteen twenty nine.
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Speaker 1: But this is just rare territory. They've just got such poise.
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Speaker 6: Just seeing last night the defense that the penis side
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Speaker 6: shown under pressure with a couple of controversial moments. Is
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Speaker 6: that need to be addressed at some point? Cameron Munsters
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Speaker 6: is alleged to have been involved in a biting incident
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Speaker 6: on Paul Alamotti. And also there was a try in
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Speaker 6: the fiftieth minute that went to the bunk and was
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Speaker 6: or at least they got across the line, but whether
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Speaker 6: or not they got it down was debated.
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Speaker 1: Did appear that the ball seemed to touch the turf?
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Speaker 1: Did he bite him because apparently the ref said, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. All I saw was saliva. Did he some teeth,
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Speaker 1: any bloods?
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Speaker 6: It's just I'm always sort of perplexed by these biting situations,
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Speaker 6: and you think that's one thing you can keep your
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Speaker 6: trap shut. I suppose when you're when you're a tackle
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Speaker 6: or whatever.
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Speaker 1: But the last thing I would want to do is
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Speaker 1: bite somebody. Dear, oh dear, I'm with you, with you,
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Speaker 1: there's no biting in netball, not that we know of
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Speaker 1: you too much to go on for that. But we've
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Speaker 1: beaten England, that's.
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Speaker 6: Right, So I mean dead rub a match and in
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Speaker 6: for cargo, but still at least some Constellation consolation ahead
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Speaker 6: of the Constellation Cup four New Zealand against Australia.
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Speaker 1: But they've they've beaten.
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Speaker 6: England sixty one fifty six so England coming back in
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Speaker 6: the third quarter eighteen fifteen, but New Zealand a fairly
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Speaker 6: firm grip on that that fixture.
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Speaker 1: And tak taken out the ren Philly shell.
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Speaker 6: It's gone to Taranaki for the summer. In defending champions
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Speaker 6: in the n PC, I mean they're looking good again
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Speaker 6: this year and Wellington top of the table. I think
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Speaker 6: Tablacki's second Tasman there but beating Tasman and they haven't
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Speaker 6: had the shield since twenty twenty. In that instance, they
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Speaker 6: didn't even get to defend it for a match. I
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Speaker 6: think it was taken the following week by target I
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Speaker 6: think from reclection.
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Speaker 1: So getting it for the first time in four years.
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Speaker 1: No nice. I actually watched the game the other day.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how. I came across at Andrew Yes
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Speaker 1: looking at it and it was in New Plymouth and
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Speaker 1: the Yarrow Stadium. Yes, half of it's been renovated, but
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Speaker 1: it just looked like there was no one that wanted
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Speaker 1: to go watch the rugby. It's kind of a show.
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Speaker 1: The camera angle was a shame.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think that was quite good. Never wed
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Speaker 6: describe bout there hit your camera ang or I get
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Speaker 6: to get the one hundred people will say that you
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Speaker 6: know exactly those patches.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, Andrew, thank you for that and the ab' squad
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Speaker 1: announcement today. Yes, isn't it two o'clock? So we'll keep
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Speaker 1: an eye on at as well for it on ZB
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Speaker 1: Andrew Ordison with us for sport this morning. Twenty five
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Speaker 1: minutes after five year on News Talk said B coming
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Speaker 1: up next. Why we deserve some quick answers over this vessel.
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Speaker 1: The Navy vessels thinking the Manawanui twenty seven after five
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Speaker 1: News Talk ZEBB Why the sinking of the Manawanui? Why?
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Speaker 1: It's the question we all want answered this morning, but
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Speaker 1: what we are likely to get is a bunch of speculation.
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Speaker 1: The first most important question has been answered. Is the
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Speaker 1: crew safe? Yes? Mostly thankfully and by the sounds of it,
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Speaker 1: thanks in large part to help from others and the
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Speaker 1: decision to abandon ship, plus a dose of good luck.
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Speaker 1: Some of the crew spent five hours in life rafts.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine battling the conditions to make it to
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Speaker 1: show one capsize before getting there? But we have so
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Speaker 1: many whys? How comes We've just lost our first navy
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Speaker 1: vessel since World War II? Worth one hundred billion bucks
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Speaker 1: just gone up and smoke sunk to the bottom of
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Speaker 1: the ocean. Why did the Munawanu hit a reef? Was
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Speaker 1: it human error? Was it mechanical failure? What happened on
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Speaker 1: the bridge in the moments leading up to the collision?
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Speaker 1: Where was the officer of the watch? Were there no
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Speaker 1: alarms that sound before something like this happens. Was it
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Speaker 1: the weather? Why was it surveying so close to a
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Speaker 1: non reef at night? Why did it catch fire? We
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Speaker 1: have so many questions and so far zero answers. We
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Speaker 1: know the sea was rough, the wind was strong, but
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Speaker 1: that's about it. The Navy and the Minister both say
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Speaker 1: we'll wait for a court of inquiry. But is that
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Speaker 1: good enough. Surely they have some idea of what went wrong.
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Speaker 1: By now, what's the harm in the public knowing what happened?
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Speaker 1: Can we not handle the truth? We've been here before,
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Speaker 1: remember the entire islander grounding. There were crickets until New
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Speaker 1: Zealand first started tweeting up a storm. We learned from
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Speaker 1: the Northland Pylon debarcle that officials pretty much knew straight
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Speaker 1: away what went wrong. But we wait for inquiries and
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Speaker 1: reports and courts to tell us the truth months later. This,
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Speaker 1: I think is more media management than investigation integrity. And
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Speaker 1: the problem with this strategy is the void gets filled
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Speaker 1: with a bunch of speculation rather than facts at least
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Speaker 1: as established thus far, and a little bit of accuracy.
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Speaker 1: A little bit of accurate information is surely better than
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of the opposite. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine
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Speaker 1: minutes after five. You're on News Talk SEBB the early.
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven after five News Talk ZIBB. Why the thinking
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Speaker 1: of the Manawanui? Why? It's the question we all want
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Speaker 1: answered this morning, But what we are likely to get
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Speaker 1: is a bunch of speculation. The first most important question
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Speaker 1: has been answered. Is the crew safe? Yes? Mostly thankfully
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Speaker 1: and by the sounds of it, thanks in large part
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Speaker 1: to help from others and the decision to abandon ship,
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Speaker 1: plus a dose of good luck. Some of the crew
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Speaker 1: spent five hours in life rafts. Can you imagine battling
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Speaker 1: the conditions to make it to show one capsize before
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Speaker 1: getting there? But we have so many whys? How comes
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Speaker 1: We've just lost our first navy vessel since World War II?
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Speaker 1: Worth one hundred billion bucks just gone up and smoke
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Speaker 1: sank to the bottom of the ocean. Why did the
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Speaker 1: money who hit a reef? Was it human error? Was
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Speaker 1: it mechanical failure? What happened on the bridge in the
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Speaker 1: moments leading up to the collision? Where was the officer
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Speaker 1: of the watch? Were there no alarms that sound before
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Speaker 1: something like this happens. Was it the weather? Why was
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Speaker 1: it surveying so close to a non reef at night?
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Speaker 1: Why did it catch fire? We have so many questions
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Speaker 1: and so far zero answers. We know the sea was rough,
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Speaker 1: the wind was strong, but that's about it. The Navy
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Speaker 1: and the minister both say we'll wait for a court
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Speaker 1: of inquiry. But is that good enough. Surely they have
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Speaker 1: some idea of what went wrong. By now, what's the
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Speaker 1: harm in the public knowing what happened? Can we not
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Speaker 1: handle the truth? We've been here before, remember the entire
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Speaker 1: islander grounding. There were crickets until New Zealand first started
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Speaker 1: tweeting up a storm. We learned from the Northland Pylon
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Speaker 1: debarcle that officials pretty much knew straight away what went wrong.
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Speaker 1: But we wait for inquiries and reports and courts to
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Speaker 1: tell us the truth months later. This I think is
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Speaker 1: more media management than investigation integrity. And the problem with
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Speaker 1: this strategy is the void gets filled with a bunch
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Speaker 1: of speculation rather than facts at least as established thus far,
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Speaker 1: and a little bit of accuracy. A little bit of
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Speaker 1: accurate information is surely better than a whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: the opposite. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine minutes after five, You're
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Speaker 1: on News Talk SETB.
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Speaker 3: First with the News, First with the Views, its early
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Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith's City. This is News Talks,
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Speaker 3: had been news.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, It's five point thirty. I'm never ready.
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Speaker 1: Manu.
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Speaker 2: The longer the hm NZ it is Manawanui stays in
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Speaker 2: the ocean, the worst comes for the nearby environment. The
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Speaker 2: navy vessel ran aground on Saturday night, then caught fire
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Speaker 2: and sank off the Sarmon coast yesterday morning. All seventy
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Speaker 2: five people on board were rescued. It was conducting a
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Speaker 2: survey around one nautical mile off shore when it struck
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Speaker 2: the reef. A Court of inquiry will probe what led
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Speaker 2: to its sinking. It's the first time the Navy's loster
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Speaker 2: ship during peacetime. New Zealand Defense Force personnel have been
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Speaker 2: deployed to Sarmour to help the cleanup and aid the crew.
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Speaker 2: Marine ecologist Phil Ross says how badly the marine life
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Speaker 2: is affected will depend on how much they can salvage
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Speaker 2: off the reef.
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Speaker 5: For me will be Philly, pristine, have a huge amount
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Speaker 5: of biodiversity.
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Speaker 4: You know, it would have been a pretty spectacular place.
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Speaker 2: I imagine tragedy for the community. After a vehicle went
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Speaker 2: into Marlborough's to a marina river near Blenhim. Five people
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Speaker 2: were in the car as it plunged into the river
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Speaker 2: off the intersection of State Highway I and Bush Road
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Speaker 2: in the early hours of yesterday morning. Two of the
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Speaker 2: occupants escaped the vehicle and are in hospital with moderate injuries.
22:01
Speaker 2: Police divers found the cart submerged in the river around midday,
22:04
Speaker 2: recovering the three bodies still inside. The government's making it
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Speaker 2: clear projects on its Fast Track Approvals Bill are not
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Speaker 2: set in stone. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop selected one hundred
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Speaker 2: and forty nine projects to be listed on the bill.
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Speaker 2: They include infrastructure, housing, mining and electricity developments, as well
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Speaker 2: as a revamp of Eden Park Stadium. Bishop says once
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Speaker 2: the bill is back from the Environment Committee. Each project
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Speaker 2: will then need to go before an expert panel.
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Speaker 5: We're also recommending to the Select Committee that the panels
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Speaker 5: will have the ability to turn down projects.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Forest and Bird Advocacy General Manager Richard Cappy says
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Speaker 2: they've been fighting some of the listed projects for years.
22:46
Speaker 2: He says their developments like coal mining, stripping native forest
22:49
Speaker 2: on conservation land, and ones that damage the ocean. A
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Speaker 2: renewed push for more tangible support for Palestinians from the government.
22:57
Speaker 2: Today marks a year since the October seven harmactan on Israel,
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Speaker 2: initiating an ongoing war. World Vision New Zealand head of
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Speaker 2: Advocacy and Justice Rebecca Armstrong told the front Page podcast
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Speaker 2: they want the government to issue humanitarian visas. She says,
23:11
Speaker 2: they also want the government to provide full resettlement assistance
23:14
Speaker 2: for Palestinians with family members here.
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Speaker 1: It would provide some hope a tangible path for Palestinians,
23:21
Speaker 1: signaling that once movement as possible, it can leave a
23:24
Speaker 1: conflict zone.
23:25
Speaker 2: Fire and Emergency have been using drones overnight to check
23:28
Speaker 2: and now contained fire in a remote part of the
23:31
Speaker 2: Far North. A vegetation fire broke out between Herdechno and
23:35
Speaker 2: Ahipata on Saturday morning. It's burned one hundred and seventy
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Speaker 2: seven headtears within a perimeter of seven point one kilometers.
23:42
Speaker 2: Thomas Rice is more.
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Speaker 7: There is no active fire front and Fire and Emergency
23:47
Speaker 7: have been working with forestry firefighters with heavy machinery. They've
23:52
Speaker 7: been supported by helicopters to ensure what the containment holds.
23:56
Speaker 7: Cruise today will be on the ground checking for any
23:59
Speaker 7: small hot spots.
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Speaker 2: A warning to Southland boaties to be aware of changing
24:04
Speaker 2: river conditions. It follows two accidents on the Oritti River
24:08
Speaker 2: within a fortnight. Record rainfalls over winter means Southlands rivers
24:12
Speaker 2: are experiencing high flows, changing waterways.
24:19
Speaker 6: Today's talks, he'd be sports Pendroth have secured the Estatus
24:22
Speaker 6: is Australian League's greatest club team since nineteen sixty six,
24:26
Speaker 6: claiming their fourth straight premiership fourteen to six over Melbourne
24:30
Speaker 6: in the NRL Final. Second ra and Triscore Liam Martin
24:34
Speaker 6: claimed the Clive Churchill Medal for Player of the match.
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Speaker 1: He was his initial reaction, oh.
24:39
Speaker 6: Well before he collected his thoughts on Sky Sport.
24:45
Speaker 1: Oh I've gone, then have your boys drag me along?
24:48
Speaker 1: And then are you guys. The fans just love you, guys,
24:51
Speaker 1: thank you so much.
24:53
Speaker 4: We don't hear.
24:55
Speaker 6: Love you only South Sydney in nineteen twenty nine with
24:59
Speaker 6: five Premier shi in Saint George in nineteen sixty six
25:02
Speaker 6: with eleven have had more consecutive success in our old
25:06
Speaker 6: coverage with Pitstop get a free warrantor fitness check with
25:08
Speaker 6: every easy service. New Zealand have beaten England sixty one
25:12
Speaker 6: fifty six in the third and final Dead Rubber Tiny
25:15
Speaker 6: Jamison Trophy Netball Test to lose the series two to one,
25:18
Speaker 6: and in Vericago, the Silver Fern has lost third quarter
25:21
Speaker 6: eighteen fifteen, but otherwise maintained a firm grip on the fixture.
25:25
Speaker 6: Their next series is the Constellation Cup against Australia, starting
25:28
Speaker 6: in Wellington on October twenty. Captain Amita and Eginasi has
25:32
Speaker 6: told Sky Sport the Diamonds will require more application.
25:36
Speaker 8: It'll just be figuring out what important things we've got
25:38
Speaker 8: to take forward.
25:39
Speaker 2: But we know we have to step up again and
25:41
Speaker 2: it's important that we learn fast.
25:43
Speaker 6: Koko Goff's taken her second tennis title this season and
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Speaker 6: eighth in her career, with a straight sets victory of
25:49
Speaker 6: a Carolina Mukova in the final of the China Open.
25:52
Speaker 6: The twenty year old American became the youngest champion at
25:54
Speaker 6: the event in fourteen years. She's maintained a perfect record
25:58
Speaker 6: of seven victories in hardcore WTA finals. In Premier League Football,
26:04
Speaker 6: Chelsea and Nottingham Forest have drawn one all. The Manchester
26:07
Speaker 6: United and Aston Villa have drawn nil all. Tottenham lead
26:11
Speaker 6: Brighton two nil at halftime. I'm Andrew Alderson and that's
26:14
Speaker 6: News Talks. He'd be News and sport to twenty five
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Speaker 6: minutes to six.
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Speaker 1: That's apparently a worry something you should be concerned about
26:20
Speaker 1: this morning, twenty two minutes away from six.
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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge, going.
26:24
Speaker 1: To our reporters around the country. Callum Proctor is in
26:26
Speaker 1: the need and for us, Colum, we missed you on Friday.
26:29
Speaker 1: Everything all right at your place.
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Speaker 9: Look a bit damp, Ryan, but certainly not as bad
26:35
Speaker 9: as many other residents around the city. It's been a
26:37
Speaker 9: weekend of cleaning up, that's for sure, after Friday's floods.
26:41
Speaker 9: As of four o'clock yesterday, though here, Dunedin's state of
26:44
Speaker 9: emergency was lifted, as was the case for the Kluther district.
26:49
Speaker 9: Look the strain as we know, saw residents evacuated, roads closed,
26:53
Speaker 9: many slips and also problems with water supply. Mayor Jills
26:57
Speaker 9: Raddick says there's been a considerable number of slips. That's
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Speaker 9: their priority now with a few homes read sticket as
27:03
Speaker 9: a result in the next few weeks of recovery for
27:05
Speaker 9: that may take some time. He says, skips will be
27:08
Speaker 9: available for residents and collections will take place to help
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Speaker 9: dispose of sandbags and rubbish. State Highway eighty eight to
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Speaker 9: Port Charmers due to reopen at six o'clock this morning.
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Speaker 1: Callum, how is your weather looking today? I know you've
27:19
Speaker 1: got some bad weather coming back later in the week,
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Speaker 1: but today.
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Speaker 9: Well showers this afternoon, some possibly thundery, says the Met Service,
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Speaker 9: so we'll keep an eye on them. Light wins today's
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Speaker 9: high seventeen.
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Speaker 1: All right, okay, thank you for that clear Surewards and
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Speaker 1: christ Church Claire. Good morning to you locals looking to
27:35
Speaker 1: buy a slice of Banks Peninsula.
27:37
Speaker 8: Yes, s Lebon's Bay Conservation Trust has been hoping to
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Speaker 8: raise four hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a thirty
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Speaker 8: nine hectare property on Old Wolf Road. Its intention is
27:48
Speaker 8: to use this land to create a reserve, to do
27:50
Speaker 8: some planting and also protect native wildlife. The Trust turned
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Speaker 8: to crowdfunding in order to raise the funds it needs.
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Speaker 4: Jefferson.
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Speaker 8: Matthew McDonald says, with two undred and seventy five thousand
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Speaker 8: dollars in the bag, it is clear that people want
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Speaker 8: to preserve the environment. That's exactly what he wanted, something
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Speaker 8: which will be a lasting legacy from the people of
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Speaker 8: twenty twenty five to the people of twenty one twenty five.
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Speaker 8: The trust has until March to raise the funds it needs.
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Speaker 8: McDonald's adamant they'll.
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Speaker 1: Get there all right. How's your weather today?
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Speaker 2: Clear, often cloudy.
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Speaker 8: There is the chance of some fog today, some afternoon
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Speaker 8: and evening showers, possibly heavy and thundery, light winds and
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Speaker 8: a maximum of twenty Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Lots of questions coming in on the Manawanui. Andrew and
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Speaker 1: Taranaki says, I have a question about this. How many
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Speaker 1: hells does a real navy ship have? How many hells
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Speaker 1: does the Manawannui have? I believe money was saved by
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Speaker 1: building it with a single hell. We bought it off.
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Speaker 1: Was it the Norwegians? We bought it off Norway. It
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Speaker 1: was a surveying ship for mining up in Norway. So
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Speaker 1: we're going to ask ron Mark all these questions right
28:51
Speaker 1: now though, we're going to Claudia O'Neil for our Wellington
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Speaker 1: News Claudia, good morning. Wellington City Council starting to chase
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Speaker 1: down those who aren't paying their rates.
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Speaker 10: Yes, so a small number of disgruntled rates payers in
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Speaker 10: the capital are boycotting the twenty one percent average rates increase.
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Speaker 10: Pens and A. Julie roll Off and her her husband
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Speaker 10: have been living it in their home for their sorry
29:14
Speaker 10: let me talk again, and her husband have been living
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Speaker 10: in their home for thirty years, but fear of rates
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Speaker 10: continue to increase, they won't be able to afford it anymore.
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Speaker 10: She's decided to take his stand and is refusing to
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Speaker 10: pay the increase, only paying her rates bill at last
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Speaker 10: year's level. A handful of other rate payers of following suit,
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Speaker 10: and the councils declining to comment.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, that sounds spicy. I say good on them.
29:36
Speaker 1: But in the end the council does come for you,
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Speaker 1: don't they remember Penny Bright refused to pay rates and
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Speaker 1: then they said, well we'll take your house off you
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Speaker 1: Claudia House. See Wellington weather.
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Speaker 10: Today cloudy, curious hours later in the day and a
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Speaker 10: high of sixteen degree.
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Speaker 1: Thank you neveras and Auckland. Good morning, Neva, Good morning.
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Speaker 2: Claudia's leaving so I'm going to grab her here because
29:55
Speaker 2: time's a tough one. We've only got one cheer. Came
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Speaker 2: back from Wellington.
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Speaker 1: Ah, yes, yes, right nice, yeah nephews twenty First.
30:04
Speaker 2: Can I say I missed the quake. I slept through it.
30:08
Speaker 2: I was parting till two am, and then I went
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Speaker 2: back to the hotel room and went to sleep. I know,
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Speaker 2: and then I thought, is that a noise? I thought
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Speaker 2: it was the next door, you know that the people
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Speaker 2: next door. I thought it was the headboard. I went,
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Speaker 2: is that people next door?
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Speaker 1: And I went, is it? And then I went back
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Speaker 1: to sleep.
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Speaker 2: And then when I woke up at eight am, everyone
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Speaker 2: or there was so many terist there for a while.
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Speaker 2: I was really good vibe there in Wellington, and everyone
30:29
Speaker 2: in the hotel was talking about it. They were all
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Speaker 2: quite shaken. Eye said, what about you miss Did you
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Speaker 2: feel it? I mean I missed it completely.
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Speaker 7: I was fast asleep.
30:36
Speaker 1: Oh that's probably a good thing. Hey, how's the weather?
30:38
Speaker 1: In Auckland today.
30:39
Speaker 2: Okay, well look there's a oh the weather rain possibly heavy,
30:43
Speaker 2: was scawny, thunderstorms turning to showers this morning, then easing
30:46
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Bit of a mixed bad but we've got
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Speaker 2: strong winds as well. Still warm, high of twenty quite Maggie.
30:53
Speaker 1: Last night I have to say in bed sixteen and
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Speaker 1: a half degrees at midnight.
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Speaker 6: Oh my god.
30:58
Speaker 11: And because it's currently sixteen now.
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Speaker 1: Oh so basically the same thing. Neva, Thank you very
31:03
Speaker 1: much for that. That's Neva in Auckland for us and
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Speaker 1: our reporters around the country, eighteen minutes away from six
31:08
Speaker 1: just before six. Ron Mark on the Manamanui. Also next,
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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray is in the UK, here's how you can
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Speaker 1: Europe correspondent Gavin good morning to you.
32:25
Speaker 12: Morning there.
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Speaker 1: Tell us there's been a resignation at Number ten.
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Speaker 12: Yes, Sue Gray. Now she's not an MP, she's not
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Speaker 12: a member of the cabinet. She is instead the chief
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Speaker 12: of staff for Secure Starmer or should I say our
32:39
Speaker 12: Prime Minister's former chief of staff. Because she has resigned
32:43
Speaker 12: she was caught up in lots of rows about pay
32:46
Speaker 12: materialized she was being paid more than the Prime minister.
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Speaker 12: That was leaked by dissatisfied colleagues who had actually taken
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Speaker 12: a pay cup. And also it was really last few
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Speaker 12: weeks have been dominated by freebies, by the donations given
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Speaker 12: to the Prime Minister, his wife and indeed to other
33:04
Speaker 12: ministers that I don't know, many say not been handled
33:09
Speaker 12: very well. So Sue Gray is going to move to
33:12
Speaker 12: a new role as the Prime Minister's Envoy for Nations
33:14
Speaker 12: and Regions. But make no mistake her resignation, she said,
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Speaker 12: was because she'd become a distraction to the part of
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Speaker 12: the government. There will be plenty of people in the
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Speaker 12: opposition benches who were in government who will be delighted.
33:28
Speaker 12: After all, Sue Gray led the investigation into parties at
33:32
Speaker 12: Downing Street, which ultimately led to Boris Johnson's downfall.
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Speaker 1: Interesting move, isn't it. Let's go to the situation in
33:40
Speaker 1: the Middle East. The Israeli Prime Minister leshing out at
33:44
Speaker 1: Emanuel Machrom.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 12: So the seventh of October is the first anniversary of
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Speaker 12: Hammers's attack on Israel, in which about two hundred people
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Speaker 12: were killed in two hundred and fifty one taken hostage.
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Speaker 12: So it was an odd time for the French President
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Speaker 12: Emmanuel Macron to call for a holt on arms deliveries
34:02
Speaker 12: to Israel for use in Gaza. Immediately, the Israeli Prime
34:06
Speaker 12: Minister Benjamin Yetnaho hit back, saying effectively, this is shame
34:11
Speaker 12: on them. He said, Israel will win with or without
34:15
Speaker 12: their support, calling it a disgrace. Well, the French have
34:20
Speaker 12: hit back saying that France is a steadfast friend of
34:24
Speaker 12: Israel and that Netanyah whose reaction is excessive and detached
34:27
Speaker 12: from the friendship between France and Israel. Will others, however,
34:31
Speaker 12: begin to make plain their feelings on the matter. Will
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Speaker 12: America change heart with its tactics, Well not at the moment,
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Speaker 12: but I think this gives some indication ran as to
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Speaker 12: how upset frustrated so many in the European ranks are
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Speaker 12: and whether it'll make any difference, of course, to Benjamin Mettnia,
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Speaker 12: who is a completely different question.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, as thank you for that. Givin gray are UK,
34:54
Speaker 1: your correspondent just gone nine minutes away from Sex and
34:59
Speaker 1: Bridge Rich So the Mona Minui has sunk Defense Minister
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Speaker 1: Judith Collins at the press conference yesterday.
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Speaker 4: This could have been a truly terrible day, but actually
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Speaker 4: it's a bad day.
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Speaker 1: Purchased in twenty eighteen from Norway, it was used in
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Speaker 1: the oil and gas industry there. It cost US one
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Speaker 1: hundred and three million dollars to buy and convert into
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Speaker 1: a navy ship which was ready for service in twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 1: The guy who signed the cabinet paper to get that
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Speaker 1: done was Ron Mark, former Defense Minister. He's with us
35:27
Speaker 1: live this morning. Ron. Good morning, Good morning Ryan.
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Speaker 5: How are you.
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Speaker 1: I'm well, thank you? How are you feeling about this?
35:33
Speaker 5: No, I'm gutted. IM pretty sad and I guess you
35:36
Speaker 5: know fair to say this one hurt not just for
35:40
Speaker 5: me but for my entire for my former ministerial staff team.
35:46
Speaker 5: We work at butts off on a range of cabinet
35:51
Speaker 5: papers at that time and brought into service, upgraded the frigates.
35:56
Speaker 5: We bought this ship into service. We completed the project
35:59
Speaker 5: that former government had started with Altro introduced that vessel
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Speaker 5: into service as well. To lose a ship that brought
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Speaker 5: such an amazing capability to the Royal New Zealand Navy
36:11
Speaker 5: into New Zealand as a whole, which quietly stunned a
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Speaker 5: lot of our Five Eyes and other partners because of
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Speaker 5: its capability and the innovation and thinking that was behind
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Speaker 5: its purchase. Yeah, lose that ship. We knew it should
36:25
Speaker 5: be a stopgap for about fifteen minute fifteen years, not
36:28
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes and fifteen year stop gap to cover the
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Speaker 5: resolution and the former money were knowing one being a
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Speaker 5: survey ship, the other being the dive ship. We thought
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Speaker 5: it was a very innovative and smart purchase and get
36:42
Speaker 5: cabinet sign off was a wonderful thing, and particularly at
36:46
Speaker 5: that time because I'd been left with a bit of
36:48
Speaker 5: a disaster with a frigate system's upgrade and a project
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Speaker 5: which had gone over one hundred and forty million because
36:54
Speaker 5: it had been stalled for ten years, sitting there waiting
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Speaker 5: for the government, the previous government to sign off on it,
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Speaker 5: and we had to fill find money from somewhere. We've
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Speaker 5: pulled the money out of the latoral vessel that was
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Speaker 5: meant to be purchased and put it in to sign
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Speaker 5: off the FSH and get that done. And then we
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Speaker 5: bought bought Mono Nui or Eda from as she was
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Speaker 5: known back then.
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Speaker 1: In a way hugely important asset to us. What are
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Speaker 1: you hearing about what went wrong?
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Speaker 5: Well, it's a bit dangerous for me to even repeat
37:26
Speaker 5: any of the speculation that's out there, because Ryan, as
37:29
Speaker 5: you know, the Navy will stand up a court of inquiry,
37:32
Speaker 5: a convenient officer will clearly be the chief of Navy.
37:35
Speaker 5: He will be looking for people the right expertise. I'd
37:39
Speaker 5: expect that within forty eight hours there will be an
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Speaker 5: announcement on that. I'd expect it it'll be very, very quick,
37:44
Speaker 5: because they want to ascertain exactly how and why the
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Speaker 5: ship ended up in peril and sinking the way it did.
37:52
Speaker 5: I guess they'll know that we've got to wait to
37:55
Speaker 5: hear the results of that court are acquiring. As a
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Speaker 5: former Minister of Defense, it wouldn't do meaning good to
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Speaker 5: be speculating in the media and corrupting the process.
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Speaker 1: No, fair enough, one quick question on that process. Could
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Speaker 1: a commanding office a big court martialed for something like that? If?
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't even want to spark fair conversation around that,
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Speaker 5: because all right now, I'd say the commanding of the
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Speaker 5: Skipper will be feeling it really really hard now. One
38:18
Speaker 5: of the things I do know is that the skipper
38:21
Speaker 5: made a call, a very tough call, which some might
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Speaker 5: have thought was a bit premature. But at the end
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Speaker 5: of the day, everyone got off that vessel. No one died,
38:29
Speaker 5: and the vessel did go to the bottom. And yet
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Speaker 5: well show disadvantage. Yeah, well it.
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Speaker 1: Just goes to show that it was the right call
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Speaker 1: in the end, wasn't it. And seventy five souls are
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Speaker 1: living today to tell the tale. Ron, thank you very
38:41
Speaker 1: much for that. That's Ron Mark, former Defense minister with US.
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Speaker 1: He's signed off on the cabinet paper to upgrade and
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Speaker 1: bring that in from Norway. It is eight minutes away
38:48
Speaker 1: from six.
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Speaker 3: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
38:53
Speaker 3: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture,
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Speaker 3: beds and a playing store. You've talk Sidby.
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Speaker 1: Five away from six. Roy has a novel approach on smoking.
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Speaker 1: He says, just make smokes two dollars a packet for
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Speaker 1: adults and stop ripping people off.
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Speaker 11: You see this debate about Ryan. Hello, it's Heather here.
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Speaker 1: I'm like one of those welcome yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 11: I'm like one of those people that just joins the
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Speaker 11: phone conversation like your husband's on the phone and the
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Speaker 11: speaker and you just chip in, that's me right now,
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Speaker 11: you've tried. The debate is about these.
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Speaker 1: What are they called coss Have you ever tried? Yes,
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Speaker 1: I have tried one of them.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I tried them two like years and years ago.
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Speaker 11: Because I've actually been on the market for eight yes,
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Speaker 11: and because I used to smoke when I was young,
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Speaker 11: like twenty years ago, and so from time to time,
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Speaker 11: you know, you have a couple of beers and then
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Speaker 11: you think, oh, that would be loveling. No, it's not
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Speaker 11: a good idea. And one time it was actually I
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Speaker 11: think with an employee of Philip Morris and tried it.
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Speaker 11: And I don't really understand the argument quite. I mean,
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Speaker 11: this is not science, but I can kind of see
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Speaker 11: how Casey Costello could say that they may not be
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Speaker 11: as harmful as Siggi's because it's not nearly as harsh
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Speaker 11: as a SIGI when.
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Speaker 1: You know, tried it, as can she prove it right?
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Speaker 1: And that's what the whole debate is about. And what
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Speaker 1: evidence is she using to prove it? We've just had
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Speaker 1: case the Cassell on the show.
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Speaker 11: To that point. Can I say also to that point,
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Speaker 11: we can't say that vaping is less harmful than smoking.
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Speaker 1: We don't have long term well I know, we don't
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Speaker 1: have long term right right.
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Speaker 11: It'd be just as bad, if not worth your smoking.
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Speaker 11: But it's bringing all these weird chemicals in.
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Speaker 1: But if you do it, you know it, do you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean? And feel as Yeah, no, it doesn't.
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Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying. Right, So SIGI is like your
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Speaker 11: nuclear option of yuckness. Then the Q cost or whatever
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Speaker 11: it's called, like whatever, you know, that thing that's less,
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Speaker 11: and then the vaping feels less as well.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, what are you doing today?
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Speaker 11: We're going to talk to the Chief Executive Health New
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Speaker 11: Zealand after seven o'clock because a five hundred million dollar
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Speaker 11: surplus in May turned into a billion dollar deficit for
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Speaker 11: the jude How does that happen?
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Speaker 1: Quite messy? All right, we'll look forward to that. Heather
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Speaker 1: with your next have a great weekend. I'll see you
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Speaker 1: on Monday.
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Speaker 12: Bye bye.
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